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Medvedev, Missouri Courts & War Logic · International Flavor: Where the Truth Tastes Better

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And so we're going to speak about the
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truth.
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And I wasn't here yesterday.
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I wasn't feeling well and I bailed and
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I never bail and I and I bailed.
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I've got some things going on that are
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stressing me out a little bit.
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Number one, I don't sleep well.
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Number two, I got, you know, a tiny
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health issue that I'd rather not talk about,
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but I really need to get reviewed and
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looked at.
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But I didn't make it yesterday.
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I just never made it.
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And I usually don't do that.
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I, you know, I realize it's just a
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small time radio program, but, you know, I'm
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committed to it.
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I like doing this and I don't want
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to not do what I say I'm going
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to do.
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And so, but I'm here today.
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I'm here now.
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And so this is the positive part of
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discussion.
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And I've still got, so if you remember
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on Monday, I spoke about some of the
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ridiculousness going on in the world.
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I talked about it from the Russian perspective.
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I talked about it from the Ukrainian perspective.
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I talked about it from the Eastern and
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the Chinese perspective and some of the things
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that are going on in the world, particularly
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related to the Straits of Hormuz.
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And I got some real problems and issues
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with that, which we may, you know, further
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get into further on in this show.
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But I also had watched over the weekend.
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So on the Monday show, I talked about
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all the stuff that I, you know, some
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of the programs that I review and Solovyov
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and his taking, you know, whether you want
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to call it propagandized or what.
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And, you know, the danger that censorship causes
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is that opinions, even if they're offensive, don't
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get heard.
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Okay.
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Now, when you go to law school and,
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you know, I don't know that I recommend
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it anymore.
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If you want to get involved in Missouri,
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I mean, Missouri's a shit show, pardon my
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French.
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When you get in the legal profession here,
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it's run by the same old group of
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clowns, you know, that, you know, unelected bureaucrat
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style people.
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And I despise that type of thing.
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And I went all the way United States
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Supreme Court in an effort to change it.
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And, you know, it didn't work.
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You know, what's one guy going to do?
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You know, not much, because who's going to
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listen?
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It's easier to screw one guy than disrupt
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the system.
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And so that's, you know, what happened to
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me.
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And it's ridiculous.
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I don't like it.
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And I'm talking about it.
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And I'm probably going to take another swing
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at the fences here before too long and
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try to bring up this issue again.
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And I may be headed right back to
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the United States Supreme Court on this same
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topic and different approach, same topic.
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And I'm right.
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But being right doesn't always get you anywhere,
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you know, doesn't always get you where you
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want to be.
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But on Monday, I was talking to you
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about Straits of Hormuz and some of the
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things from a different perspective.
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And the trouble is, is a lot of
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people are, you know, and I heard something
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funny.
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Now, this is not my term, okay?
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Not mine.
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And I want to talk about it.
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There was some elections that went on in
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Ohio, maybe Michigan, somewhere else that they were
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talking about.
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And somebody was doing an evaluation of the,
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you know, whether or not this signals danger,
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danger, danger, Will Robinson for Donald Trump.
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And come October, you know, and he says,
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oh, yesterday or over the weekend, Monday, I
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talked about it, where he says, oh, geez,
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I got this guy in Iraq elected.
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Nobody knew him, but I endorsed him when
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he got done.
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What about Victor Orban?
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You sent your vice president over there to
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politic for that guy.
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And he got his ass handed to him.
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You know, he's no longer with us.
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Well, at least not in power.
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He's with us, you know, in the physical
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sense.
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He's not dead, but he was replaced.
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And that was a Trump support right there.
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And he lost, okay?
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Now, somebody said that six out of seven
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places running in Ohio supported by Trump won.
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If so, that's a good sign, you know,
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if that's the way it is.
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I'm of the opinion that he's not going
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to take it well, but I heard somebody
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analyzing this and the way they refer to
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Trump voters, to the always Trumpers, you know,
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there's people that are never Trumpers.
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There's people that are always Trumpers.
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And then there's those of us that in
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the middle, if he would just shut up
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internationally and in a lot of respects, quit
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being so damn offensive to people and name
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calling them names and being so, I don't
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know what narcissistic, you know, but maybe you
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have to be that to be a president,
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but I don't know.
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I don't like his approach.
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I just don't like it.
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You know, if you can't say something nice,
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don't say anything at all.
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You know, what did your mom teach you
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that?
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If you can't say something nice, don't say
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anything.
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And treating people like, you know, glorifying them
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when they're on your side and demonizing them
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when they're not is just wrong.
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And there's a got to be a more
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reasonable approach to some of this stuff, at
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least in my opinion.
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Now you can have your own opinion.
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And what I heard the analysis of this,
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that the Trump supporters and the person giving
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this analysis said, you know what I mean?
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The mouth breathers, the mouth breathers that support
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Trump always, you know, the mouth breathers and
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you get it.
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Everybody gets it when they say something like
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that.
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But that's offensive as well.
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You know, you don't get a categorized people
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and say that, you know, this is, you
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know, they are X or Y.
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And because I support a lot of the
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things that, you know, the pro Trump crowd
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do.
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And I'm not, you know, I think maybe
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I'm probably too far to the other side
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of beating up on him for his international
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policies.
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I think his international policies just suck and
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that he's got fools and idiots that are
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advising him on these things.
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And it's leading to making things far worse,
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not far better.
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And it'd like to teach children about what
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to do when things are so confrontational that
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are just so in such bad shape.
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You know, you got to teach your children
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that sometimes the middle of the road is
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a little bit better approach and not to
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treat people in this way.
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And sometimes you got to back off.
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Sometimes the smarter move is resolution of a
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crime of any lawyers who practiced law for
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as long as I did have a saying
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that most people know.
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A horrible deal is better than any judgment,
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any jury decision, any resolution by the court.
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And there was a great judge that I
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used to appear in front of, and I
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loved appearing in front of this judge.
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And I'll tell you a story.
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In fact, I will tell you that story
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because it's an awesome story about judges who
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really are good judges.
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Now, there are a lot of judges out
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there that I think are just crap.
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You know, they don't do anything.
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They never have done anything.
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They don't know how to get there.
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And you have to teach them the law.
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Well, that's what you're supposed to do anyway.
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If you presume that the judge knows everything,
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you're presuming something incorrect.
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The judge is learning about the issues that
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are being presented just like you are.
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There are basic rules.
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You know, any person can do a bankruptcy.
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But when you go through a bankruptcy, there
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are certain things that maybe your situation is
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different.
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And lawyers are supposed to educate the court
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as to why their particular client's issues don't
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quite fit the norm.
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Or you need to do this or you
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need to do that.
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The court needs to be educated both on
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the case and on how the law applies
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to the case.
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But sometimes the judge just takes it over.
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One of the funniest stories, and this is
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a true story, is when I first became
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a lawyer, it was 2001 when I became
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a lawyer.
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And I was working for myself for about
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a year.
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I worked for myself because the pay, you
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know, to get a job as a lawyer
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in Missouri, I was making a hell of
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a lot more as an HR director than
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I could as a lawyer, first-year lawyer.
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I was like, screw that, I'll just work
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for myself.
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And I did.
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And then I started working with a guy
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named Curtis Handerhan in Jeff City.
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And I love that guy.
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He was older than me by about 10
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years, been a lawyer for a while.
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And we just kind of mixed together.
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And we were together about six, seven years
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as partners.
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And I learned a ton from him.
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And we had a very good organization there.
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Well, we had a couple of other attorneys
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who I won't name.
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And I liked them, too.
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They were decent, too.
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But the one I generally worked with very
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closely was Curtis.
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And we were a busy law firm.
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And one of the funniest things, and I
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don't know, this excellent judge, his name was
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Byron Kinder.
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And he was fantastic.
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He had been on the bench for a
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long time.
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And I was a new lawyer.
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And I barely knew him.
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I'd appeared in front of him two, three
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times before.
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But I liked appearing in front of him.
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He was straight up.
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It was his courtroom.
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He was on demand on the show.
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He was performing, is what he was doing.
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And he was a good judge.
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And he didn't put up with crap from
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anyone.
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And one day, and I didn't do a
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lot of criminal stuff.
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I was doing family law.
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Well, I hadn't done.
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I started after this point.
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And in Missouri, you have a process.
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And if you don't understand criminal law, maybe
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you should.
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But in criminal law, what they do is
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they, you know, the person is found guilty
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is one step.
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And then sentencing is a separate step.
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And sometimes, the jury can sentence you.
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And sometimes, or most time, you'd prefer that
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a judge impose the sentence, not the jury.
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You know, because the jury will screw you.
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A judge might screw you, too.
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But you'd prefer the, I think you'd prefer
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the judge, because the judge, the jury is
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a total crap shoot.
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You know, what the hell these people are
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going to do.
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You'd much rather have a judge who, in
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my opinion, who actually knows something and has
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a basis for something in the past.
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The jury, they've never put anybody in jail
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before.
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They don't know what it is.
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And they, you know, they could be, you
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know, pitchfork holders, you know.
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Oh, yeah, fry them at the stake.
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You know, burn them.
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Burn them, anyway.
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I'm not a witch.
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I'm not a witch.
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But you are dressed as one.
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Well, this isn't my nose.
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It's a false one.
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Well, we did do the nose.
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The nose and the hat.
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But she's a witch.
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Anyway, burn her, anyway.
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And that's what juries are like.
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Sorry to throw some Monty Python in there.
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But at any rate, I go, one day
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I am in court on a civil matter
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in a different courtroom in Cole County Courthouse.
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And there's four or five courtrooms, four or
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five different judges.
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And every once in a while, you'd have
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to run from one courtroom to the other
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courtroom.
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And I get a call from Curtis.
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And Curtis says, one of our other guys,
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and I won't name him, he says, one
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of our other guys has a client appearing
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in front of Judge Kinder.
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And he's not going to be there.
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Will you go appear?
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I said, it's a criminal matter.
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I don't know what the hell I'm doing.
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You know, I haven't, you know, he goes,
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it's just a sentencing hearing.
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It's a felony sentencing hearing.
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His client is going to be there.
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And the judge is going to sentence him.
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All you got to do is say, I
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said, this lady doesn't even know me.
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You know, I said, I can't go in
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there and appear for her lawyer.
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He goes, you got to go do it.
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We have nobody else.
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You know, you got to go get there.
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And so I said, all right.
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And Judge Kinder knew me and he knew
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I didn't know any of this crap.
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And I walk in and there's a lady.
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So the bailiff brings out this lady.
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She's in chains and she's in a prison,
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not a prison, a jail jumpsuit.
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You know, she's dressed in orange and she's
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in chains when they bring her up.
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And she is coming up there and all
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you're going to do is get in front
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of the judge and the judge is going
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to sentence her.
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Right.
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Which means that they have done a packet,
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a research packet on her and they know
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who she is.
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The probation and parole officer, parole board or
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whoever will have reviewed her past and her
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history and whatever she's done.
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And there's all kinds of things that they
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go into to review this person and put
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them in prison and or let them off
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the hook.
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And the judge has the power to do
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basically whatever he wants.
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There's some minimum sentencing.
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There's some other things that he asked to
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apply, but there's all these rules that go
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into it that a criminal, a person will
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know.
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But by this point, the judge has already
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seen all of that.
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And arguably was a very safe thing.
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But, you know, I don't know what sort
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of statement I could possibly make on this
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woman's behalf.
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Right.
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I didn't even have a file, you know,
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I had nothing.
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And Curtis is like, well, you got to
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do it.
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There's nobody else, you know, and you can
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tell the judge.
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And so it was it was comical because
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I went in there and they called her
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name.
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They brought her out from, you know, what
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the jail cell in the back of the
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court, you know, because they're sales cells back
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there where they hold people while they wait
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for the sentencing.
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And it was a big day.
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The courtroom was full.
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There were a lot of people being sentenced
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or having motion hearings or whatever.
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And so I I come in and the
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judge says, who's appearing for so and so
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in the prosecutor says, well, this is this
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is for sentencing judge.
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And I walk up and he goes, trap.
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Yes, judge.
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He goes, I didn't know you do criminal
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stuff.
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I said, I don't.
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And he says, well, and he says, are
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you going to have anything to say for
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her?
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I said, well, just what I was told,
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you know, from Curtis, you know, and company
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is the following.
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And I told him a little a little
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blurb.
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The lady comes out, the bailiff drags her
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out from the cell behind the behind the
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court courtroom and drags her into the courtroom.
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And this is the big main courtroom in
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Cole County Courthouse.
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And there I stand next to a lady
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who's looking at me like, who the hell
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is this guy?
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You know, and I well, I'm your lawyer.
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Oh, well, where's so and so where's my
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lawyer?
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And I was like, well, you couldn't make
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it here.
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I'm here.
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And so we I don't know why I'm
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telling you this stupid story, but it's there
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I stood.
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And the the judge says he says, all
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right, prosecutor, what are you looking for?
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And the prosecutor says, well, I want to
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put away for it was a large number
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of years like, you know, she's done this
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many felonies and she has this and she
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has that.
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And I don't remember the exact numbers of
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years that they were putting her away for.
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I just remember the the generals of the
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story.
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And so the prosecutor says what she's going
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to say.
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And then I say and I've had, you
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know, a couple of minutes to review this
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probation and parole report, which is quite thick.
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And she had quite the past, a long
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past.
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And so I had gone through it and
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I was like, man, this lady's fried.
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The judge is going to string her up,
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you know, and it was like a drug
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charge of some sort, you know, as a
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drug charge.
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And she had a long and colored history.
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And so when the judge gets to me,
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he goes, well, Mr. Trapp, what do you
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have to say?
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I said, well, judge, you know, this is
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so and so.
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And, you know, the report, the report was
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actually reasonably favorable, but the court report recommended
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that she be put away for the maximum
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amount of years.
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And let's say that that number of years
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was 10, you know, and I don't remember,
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but it was a good amount.
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She had multiple counts in there.
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And so I do the best that I
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can with limited information.
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And, you know, at this point, the judge
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has already decided what he's going to do
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anyway.
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He reviews all of these files when you
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bring them in.
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He's letting you give your arguments.
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And I was really a little offended that
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the real attorney didn't show up.
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And I think that one of the things,
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well, I won't say what I think really
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happened there, but it was pretty comical.
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And so I say what I'm going to
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say.
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And he says to the lady, he said,
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do you have anything to say for yourself?
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And she goes, well, Judge, I've changed.
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I've been with, I've gone, I've been in
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the custody of the church.
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You know, I have worked with the church
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and some church in St. Louis, you know,
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she's from St. Louis area.
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And this is Jefferson City where she was
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charged with the crime.
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And if she hadn't have been running with
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the wrong people in Jefferson City, she wouldn't
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be where she is.
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And she got to say her piece, which
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is what she wanted to do anyway.
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And so she got to say her piece.
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And the judge says, looks at her and
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he goes, and I don't remember the actual
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exact number of years that he was gone.
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He says, well, I'm going to sentence you.
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He said, you're going to go in to
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jail in the department of the corrections of
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the state of Missouri for a period of
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seven.
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No, no, no.
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I'm sorry.
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For a period of five years.
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And I'm thinking, well, that's not, you know,
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that's far better than what it was.
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And he said, I'm going to put you
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there.
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A bailiff, you know, you can take her
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into custody and, you know, we're going to
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transport her to the prison.
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Well, she collapses on the floor and starts
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wailing.
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And all of a sudden, a dude in
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the back of the room, a big black
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bald guy stands up in the back of
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the room and in a deep Luther Vandross
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or someone, your honor, could I, could I
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speak on sister so-and-so's behalf?
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And the judge looks up at him, sees
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him come up and goes, who the hell
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are you?
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Judge Kender, who the hell are you?
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And he goes, well, judge, I'm her pastor.
20:03
And, and, and judge Kender didn't miss a
20:07
beat.
20:08
He goes, he goes, well, come on up
20:10
here.
20:12
He goes, we got her pastor.
20:14
He says, bring her.
20:15
Well, come on up here.
20:16
We got to hear from you.
20:18
And I swear to God, this pastor in
20:20
a purple suit comes walking up and he
20:23
was huge and he was bald and he
20:26
was a big black man.
20:27
And he looked really cool is all I
20:29
remember.
20:30
He looked freaking cool.
20:31
And I was like, no, that's a pastor,
20:33
you know, and he walked up and he
20:35
goes, well, and judge goes, well, by all
20:37
means, tell us what you want to tell
20:40
us.
20:40
And he goes, well, he goes, sister so
20:43
-and-so has been with us at the
20:46
church in St. Louis since she had her
20:49
bad times down here in Jefferson city.
20:52
And through the period of her bond, she's
20:54
been coming to the church every week and
20:56
she's been doing this and coming in.
20:59
And he went on in a, in a,
21:02
in a great oration, doing a far better
21:04
job than I did of taking care of
21:06
this lady.
21:06
And, uh, he goes, uh, and, and, and
21:10
says, well, you know, we would like the
21:11
court to remand sister so-and-so to
21:15
my custody.
21:16
He goes and let the church take care
21:19
of her.
21:19
And the judge looks at him and he
21:21
goes, uh, are you finished?
21:24
And he goes, yes, your honor.
21:25
He goes, and he goes, and remember the
21:28
judge had sentenced her to four.
21:31
I think, you know what?
21:31
It was four that he sentenced her to
21:34
four years and she would have had to
21:36
serve 85% of that under the rules
21:39
at the time, you know, because, uh, well,
21:42
because of what she had, she knew she
21:45
was going in for a while and, uh,
21:47
uh, you know, and she was already in
21:49
handcuffs and the bailiff was standing there with
21:51
her while this was going on and they
21:53
were getting ready to cart her off to
21:54
the department of corrections.
21:56
And, uh, you know, I'm feeling like an
21:58
idiot, you know, I don't know what the
22:00
hell's going on.
22:01
And, uh, I mean, I do, but it,
22:03
but it was, and you know, there's nothing
22:04
I could have done about it anyway, nor
22:06
any other attorney, except, and I, and, and,
22:09
and by the way, I did ask the
22:10
judge to pass the matter until, uh, you
22:13
know, her attorney showed up and he said
22:16
he wasn't going to do that.
22:17
He goes, I'll deal with him later is
22:20
what he said.
22:22
And, uh, uh, he goes, anyway, he, uh,
22:25
remember he had sentenced her to call it.
22:27
And I believe this is accurate.
22:29
He sentenced her to four years and he
22:31
could have censored for anywhere between four and
22:34
seven.
22:35
And he gave her the minimum, which was
22:36
four.
22:37
And so, uh, then after the pastor spoke,
22:41
he says, uh, uh, he goes, well, Mrs.
22:44
So-and-so he goes, your pastor is,
22:47
is really speaking for you.
22:48
So I'd tell you what I'm gonna do.
22:51
He said, after that beautiful oration from your
22:54
pastor, there's somebody that cares about you.
22:56
So you know what I'm going to do?
22:57
He says, I'm going to sentence you to
22:59
seven years in the department of corrections.
23:03
He said, I'm going to send you to
23:05
seven years.
23:06
And she starts wailing and he goes, now,
23:08
hold on a second, sister, hold on a
23:12
second sister.
23:13
I'm gonna, uh, he goes, but he said,
23:17
there's a, but here he says, I'm gonna
23:19
tell you the following.
23:21
He goes, I'm going to remand you to
23:24
the custody of your pastor.
23:27
He said, you are on probation.
23:31
Can you believe that?
23:32
He gave her probation.
23:33
Now she was going down.
23:36
There is no doubt.
23:37
This woman was going down and this report
23:40
was quite brutal to her.
23:43
And by the way, he had read through
23:45
the whole report.
23:46
He goes, well, here's what you got.
23:47
And it was a long list.
23:49
He goes, you got drug charges, you know,
23:52
15 years ago, you got a felony assault
23:55
charges, you got felony, this felony, that felony,
23:58
bad check writing.
24:00
And he gave a whole litany of things.
24:03
And, but most of them were more than
24:05
five years in the past.
24:07
And then she had this relapse.
24:09
Right.
24:09
And so, you know, the, the, the, the
24:11
report was saying, well, you could, um, you
24:14
know, since it is a drug charge, you
24:17
know, people have drug problems and they, they
24:19
sometimes don't, you know, know what the hell
24:21
they're doing because drugs and blah, blah, blah.
24:23
And, uh, but anyway, I, I didn't know
24:25
her well enough to, to, to have a
24:28
real stand in that thing.
24:29
And it looked like she was going to
24:30
get fried on paper.
24:31
And for sure she was, and she actually
24:33
did.
24:34
She got four years, then her pastor spoke
24:36
and the judge gave her seven.
24:38
And he said, you have seven years, but
24:41
I'm going to remand you to the custody
24:43
of your pastor.
24:44
But if you screw up, you will serve
24:48
every day of that seven years.
24:51
He goes, I'll hold that over your head.
24:52
And you can thank your pastor that you're
24:54
not going to prison today.
24:58
Bailiff uncuff her.
25:00
And he let her walk out the door.
25:02
Now you got to honor a judge like
25:04
that.
25:05
And, uh, in all seriousness, he was, he
25:08
was a unique and interesting and wonderful person
25:13
as well as a judge.
25:15
You know, there were stories about, they attacked
25:18
him, you know, there were a lot of
25:20
people that hated him and the cops followed
25:22
him just like they did me.
25:24
And they got him for a DWI once
25:27
during an election period.
25:30
And, uh, and you could get a lot
25:33
of that crowd, the court crowd on, on,
25:36
on charges like that.
25:38
And the way I heard the story was,
25:40
and I know he, you know, he just
25:42
went in, he was on the front page
25:43
like that, you know, a few days later,
25:46
because it was such a big deal.
25:48
They front paged him and try to hurt
25:49
him.
25:50
And you know what he did very first
25:51
day, he just went in and pleaded guilty
25:53
and the story was gone.
25:55
And so there's something to be said about
25:57
that.
25:58
Anyway, that was a long and story that
26:00
I had no intention of telling today.
26:02
And I was only telling it because if
26:04
you're trusting the court system, you, you, you
26:07
have to understand that the court system is
26:10
based upon personalities too.
26:13
And judge Byron Kinder, and I don't know
26:15
what his status is.
26:16
I apologize, but I'll bet you anything.
26:18
The man has probably passed away some time
26:20
ago and he was some 30 years on
26:23
the bench anyway.
26:24
And he was a unique and wonderful judge
26:28
in my opinion.
26:29
And I learned a lot from him over
26:31
the times that I appeared in front of
26:32
him.
26:32
And there are judges like that.
26:34
And there are also judges who couldn't find
26:36
their ass with two hands and a map.
26:39
And those people have to be coached.
26:42
It led through the, you know, he was
26:45
on the bench for 30 years.
26:46
He knew stuff.
26:47
There are people who don't know crap.
26:49
They never knew crap.
26:50
They, they, they don't want to know crap.
26:52
All they want is the power.
26:53
And there are plenty of them around too.
26:55
So you got to know the judge that
26:57
you're going to be in front of.
26:58
And so you got to know how the
26:59
system actually works and how the system actually
27:02
works is sometimes there's a lot of personalities.
27:04
And sometimes there are people who control things
27:07
in the courtroom.
27:08
You can say it doesn't exist, but it
27:11
does.
27:12
And there are people that are hated in
27:14
the court process.
27:15
I happen to be one of them.
27:17
And those people need to be silenced, shut
27:19
up, shut out.
27:21
And that's what the Missouri system is built
27:24
upon.
27:25
Silencing those who have anything, you know, critical
27:28
to say about anything and glorifying the do
27:32
nothing crowd.
27:34
And that, you know, the ones who couldn't
27:36
make, couldn't make a living practicing law unless
27:39
they were somehow involved in the system.
27:42
And that, that, that unfortunately is true as
27:45
well.
27:46
So when I speak about the, the legal
27:49
system in the state of Missouri and the
27:51
backwardness of this idiotic way that we select
27:55
judges, this nonpartisan judicial selection that I talk
27:59
about and sometimes discuss in depth, you should
28:05
take that as truth because it is.
28:08
And you don't have to believe it each
28:10
and every time, but you should know who
28:12
the people are and the potential people involved
28:15
in any case that you're involved with in
28:17
the courthouse and understand that you need to
28:20
have someone who's going to back you up
28:22
no matter what.
28:23
And a lot of lawyers are nothing but
28:25
pansies and they'll never back you up.
28:28
They're in there to get rid of your
28:29
case and to make it through stuff.
28:32
And so, and the court, you know, can
28:34
shuffle people through and take care of things,
28:36
you know, and there's plenty, plenty good.
28:39
We have a great system, but don't kid
28:41
yourself that the system is perfect because it's
28:44
far from that.
28:46
And I don't know why I got on
28:47
that little diatribe this morning, but I hope
28:49
you found it interesting.
28:51
And our system is our system.
28:58
And I like to talk about systems and
29:01
the way they operate and how they, how
29:04
you manage your pathway through such systems.
29:11
I generally do that on Civic Outlaws on
29:13
Friday mornings when we talk about, you know,
29:15
how this power shouldn't be stolen and this
29:18
law doesn't really mean that.
29:20
And, you know, I give my opinions pretty
29:22
brutally, honestly, when I give them and we
29:25
talk about them.
29:26
And then I talk about other people's systems
29:29
and just because they have a different system
29:31
doesn't mean that an ordinary citizen doesn't have
29:35
the same meandering through the system to get
29:38
to where you want.
29:39
All systems, corruption is not system corruption.
29:44
Corruption is an individual deal and only is
29:47
allowed to take root when people live in
29:50
the positions of power that they live in.
29:53
And I talked to you about my theory
29:56
on no lifetime politicians.
29:59
And I believe that no lifetime bureaucrats.
30:02
I definitely believe that.
30:04
And I think there ought to be limits
30:06
all the way across the board.
30:07
However, if you have a system like China,
30:11
like Russia, like many other countries where leaders
30:13
stay in power and don't have term limits
30:16
and they go through them, you end up
30:18
with a different system.
30:20
And I told you on Monday that we
30:21
were going to talk about the system and
30:24
youth and what people think and growing up
30:28
under a different system and what people have
30:31
done in Russia growing up.
30:32
And I started out with talking about Dmitry
30:37
Medvedev.
30:38
And Dmitry Medvedev is a former president of
30:41
Russia.
30:41
So Putin was president for a while.
30:43
Medvedev beat him in a middle.
30:46
And he did five years.
30:48
And then Putin won again.
30:49
But Medvedev is still highly placed in the
30:52
government in Russia.
30:54
And Medvedev is a blunt and very intelligent
30:58
person.
31:00
And I told you the other day that
31:01
I watched a, I can't remember the word.
31:06
I want to say it in Russian.
31:08
But the conference, I suppose, would be the
31:10
best way to put it in English.
31:12
And it was an appearance in front of
31:14
the youth of education, educational forum is what
31:22
it was.
31:22
It was an education forum with students that
31:25
were in college, were in high school.
31:28
The youngest he talked to was like a
31:29
ninth grade student.
31:31
And I'm going to play a song for
31:34
you.
31:35
And then we're going to discuss Dmitry Medvedev's
31:38
appearance and a translation of the questions that
31:42
they asked him.
31:42
Because I think these similar questions and having
31:45
something like this in America would be very
31:48
useful to have a forum of kids.
31:51
My son, William, won an event when he
31:54
was in fifth grade, sixth grade.
31:58
And he got a free trip to Washington,
32:00
D.C. And I chose to go with
32:01
him.
32:03
And I went to, I forget what it
32:04
was called, Young Leaders or something like that.
32:07
And he won this trip.
32:10
And I went with him because I thought
32:13
it was really cool.
32:14
And they had something similar.
32:16
So I'm not saying in America, we don't
32:18
have these things.
32:20
And this, my son, Will, he was involved
32:23
in one at a very young age.
32:25
And he won this trip to Washington, D
32:27
.C. from the school in Jefferson City.
32:29
And I took him.
32:31
And I got to participate with him.
32:32
There were a few other parents that went
32:34
as well.
32:35
But most of it was just the 15,
32:37
20 kids from around the state of Missouri
32:39
that got to go to this leadership or
32:43
whatever it was called.
32:44
I can't remember what it was called.
32:45
And Will was one of them.
32:47
And it was really interesting because they did
32:48
have a question and answer period with people
32:50
that mattered.
32:52
And it was really cool.
32:53
And it's hard to get to there.
32:54
I assume that this education group was very
32:58
similar and had kids that had won things,
33:01
a competition to get there.
33:03
They're very limited seating to get into these
33:06
things.
33:07
And I thought it would be interesting to
33:10
talk about some of the questions and answers
33:12
that he had.
33:13
And in particular, after my long story, you
33:17
know, war story about, and a really pretty
33:20
cool one.
33:21
You know, I remember going back to the
33:23
office and Curtis going, so what happened?
33:26
And the lawyer who was supposed to appear,
33:29
who came, he was back by that time
33:31
when he comes in.
33:32
And I remember going into the office and
33:34
saying, man, what happened with so and so?
33:36
I was like, and I took all the
33:38
credit.
33:38
I said, oh, my God, you guys, I
33:40
got her probation.
33:42
I got her probation.
33:44
And they're, what?
33:45
Nobody could believe.
33:46
This woman was going to prison, you know,
33:48
and I got her probation.
33:49
I didn't get her probation.
33:51
I didn't have anything to do with that.
33:53
I was the fool standing up there covering
33:55
for her real lawyer.
33:57
And that was, anyway, it was, and Judge
33:59
Kinder did, in my view, the right thing.
34:01
And he was a good man, good judge.
34:03
And people hated him.
34:05
Some hated, some loved him.
34:07
I thought I was on the I love
34:08
him side because he controlled what he was
34:11
doing and he made no bones about it.
34:13
You know, you could agree, you could disagree,
34:15
but this is where he was going.
34:16
And he was blunt about it.
34:17
That's how I feel about life.
34:19
You know, I say, say what I mean,
34:20
say what I believe.
34:22
And if you don't like it, I'm okay
34:24
with that.
34:24
You know, you come back and explain to
34:26
me why.
34:27
And if you educate me, why fine, you
34:30
know, I'm okay.
34:31
But it's not just because you say so,
34:33
or you have a different opinion.
34:34
I honor your opinion.
34:36
I honor your structure.
34:38
You should honor mine.
34:40
And if the two don't match, somebody will
34:42
make a decision that is a plus or
34:43
a minus on a board.
34:45
That isn't anything else other than that.
34:48
And that doesn't mean we have to be
34:49
enemies to each other or anything like that.
34:52
We have a disagreement.
34:53
You let those cards fall where they fall,
34:55
and we'll get a judge like Judge Kinder,
34:58
or we'll get some other, I don't know
35:00
what, lesser judge that doesn't know what the
35:03
hell he's doing.
35:04
And that is fearful.
35:05
But those exist, just like the great ones
35:08
do.
35:09
There's a lot of weak judges out there
35:11
as well.
35:12
You need to educate them.
35:14
And this Medvedev appearance and complete question and
35:18
answer summary that I'm going to provide to
35:20
you, I'm doing that because it's a different
35:22
perspective, and I hope you enjoy it.
35:24
But before we get to that, I'm going
35:26
to go back to Alexei Bryantsev and Irina
35:31
Kruk, and we're going to listen to ...
35:36
I think it's that one, but I'm not
35:42
positive.
35:43
I like that song, and I can't remember
35:44
what it's called.
35:47
But, oh, Как будто мы с тобой, as
35:50
if we're still together, is what the name
35:53
is of that song.
35:54
And I'm going to play that for you
35:56
just because I like the beat, and hopefully
35:58
you'll enjoy it.
35:59
Let's see.
36:00
Where is it?
36:02
Let us begin at the beginning, and it
36:04
might be a different song too, but I
36:06
believe this is Как будто мы с тобой.
36:11
And I don't know why, but I just
36:12
really like this song and the beat.
36:14
And I also like the deep voice of
36:16
this Russian kid.
36:19
He sounds a little bit like Vladimir Vysotsky,
36:24
who ...
36:24
Well, we'll get into him later, but here
36:26
we go.
36:30
Как будто мы с тобой, as if we're
36:33
still together.
36:34
You know, we're still together.
36:36
And I like that song.
36:37
So, that is a story song, actually, and
36:41
it's a story.
36:42
Basically, two people meet, they run into each
36:46
other, and they actually know each other, and
36:50
they dated years before.
36:53
You get all this from the story.
36:55
And he offers to walk her home, and
36:58
they say, why aren't we together?
37:00
Whatever happened.
37:02
And the chorus is, it's as if we're
37:08
still together, and we didn't drift apart.
37:13
It's as if we were still ...
37:15
It says, if you waited for me, he
37:17
says, you waited for me.
37:19
And she said, it's as if you searched
37:21
for me.
37:22
And they're going back and forth the whole
37:25
time.
37:25
It's actually a cool song.
37:27
And anyway, I know I've played it a
37:30
few times on here before.
37:31
And in the end, she invites him up
37:34
for tea, and they get together and say,
37:39
why were we ever apart in the first
37:41
place?
37:42
So, it's kind of a cool song.
37:44
Anyway, I like it.
37:45
And sorry to throw it upon you if
37:47
you don't understand the words, but I do,
37:50
and it's a good song.
37:51
And I like the beat, and I like
37:53
how they put that artistry together with the
37:57
...
37:58
What do you call it?
37:59
It's not a solo.
38:00
It's two people.
38:03
It would be a trio.
38:04
What's the two?
38:05
A bio?
38:06
No, I don't know.
38:07
It's a couple singing a song.
38:09
A duo.
38:09
They're a duo.
38:11
That's what the word is.
38:12
It's not a bio.
38:13
It's a duo.
38:14
And so, anyway, there you have it.
38:16
And there's some news I do want to
38:18
get to, world news, and some opinion on
38:23
the world news.
38:25
This is what superpowers have to learn.
38:28
It's an opinion, an analysis.
38:29
Must learn from the US war against Iran,
38:33
the Western circus, the Caucasus circus, the Yerevan
38:37
summit, and how does it look from Moscow,
38:40
Turkey's unveiling its first ICBMs, Israel assault on
38:44
Lebanon, what's really behind it, pro-Palestinian activists
38:48
convicted in the UK, Germany has never fully
38:51
been denazified.
38:53
That's an interesting piece.
38:55
And I've read most of these opinion parts.
38:57
America is having a surprising church revival, people
39:00
going back to church.
39:02
Here's why Iran is sovereign and Germany is
39:05
not.
39:06
This is an interesting one from subhumans to
39:09
orcs.
39:10
How Nazi race theory lives on in Ukraine
39:14
on modern Russophobia and what they call them.
39:18
You know, Russians are referred to as subhuman
39:20
or orcs all over Ukraine and what they
39:23
talk to them.
39:24
They call them orcs or definitely less than
39:27
human.
39:28
And Zelensky's done it quite a few times
39:30
himself.
39:31
We might get to how Iran rolled out
39:33
the new Hormuz rules when we get to.
39:36
But today I'm going to finish with Dmitry
39:38
Medvedev.
39:39
I think it'll take me probably the rest
39:41
of the rest of the program to get
39:43
through what he said, because I think it's
39:45
important and I think it's important to understand
39:48
how the.
39:50
You know what people are looking at in
39:52
other parts of the world and they're looking
39:54
forward, much like my son's trip where he
40:00
went to the young leaders or whatever it
40:02
was that we went to in Washington, D
40:04
.C. when he was in fifth or sixth
40:06
grade.
40:07
They they they really do focus on youth
40:11
in a lot of respects in Russia.
40:13
And they have these conferences all the time
40:14
and they bring some big names in there.
40:17
Now, I assume it's only the select, you
40:22
know, very good students and people that have
40:25
parents or whatever in powerful spots that are
40:28
getting these invites.
40:31
I assume it's similar to what to what
40:33
what goes on here.
40:36
You know, in a lot of respects.
40:38
Oh, damn it.
40:39
Now I've now I'm on the wrong thing
40:43
and I got to roll back to where
40:45
the hell I was and get to I'm
40:49
not I'm not I'm not a good mouse
40:51
user.
40:52
And so we're going to go back to
40:55
Dmitry Medvedev and his questions.
40:59
And there are 14 or 15 of them.
41:00
I may not bring them all up, but
41:02
this is what they were they think about.
41:05
And he when he started his Vistuplenia, his
41:11
commentary in the beginning of this large conference
41:17
hall full of students, teachers, people in education
41:21
and involved in education, he introduced himself.
41:26
Well, first he was introduced, you know, as
41:28
the deputy chairman of the Security Council of
41:31
Russia.
41:31
And he stood up.
41:35
He got the audience, you know, in front
41:38
of the audience.
41:39
And he noted that it was very large
41:40
crowd.
41:40
And it was.
41:42
And he had prepared an article ahead of
41:45
Russia's great national holiday.
41:47
Now that's coming up.
41:48
We're on May 6th.
41:49
It's three days away.
41:50
It's Victory Day.
41:52
This is the day, the Dien Pobedy, when
41:54
they focus on the processes unfolding in Europe,
41:59
especially after the Great Patriotic War, which is
42:06
what they call World War Two, the Great
42:08
Patriotic War, because every family in Russia was
42:11
touched by this.
42:13
Every family in the Soviet Union, which includes
42:16
places like Georgia, like Kazakhstan, like Uzbekistan.
42:20
When I toured those countries, they had the
42:22
same monuments that were all over Russia when
42:25
26 million people are killed in a military
42:29
action.
42:30
Trust me, people are affected.
42:32
The whole country was only, you know, 1
42:34
.1 million.
42:36
And so it was there.
42:38
Hang on one second.
42:39
Let's see what we got here.
42:42
We have ourselves a caller.
42:46
And let us see if I can.
42:48
Maybe there's a question from this caller.
42:51
Caller, what can I do for you?
42:55
Jimmy Tebow is a pedophile.
42:58
Okay.
42:59
Well, I appreciate that.
43:02
Great commentary.
43:04
Good for Jimmy Tebow.
43:05
What the hell are you calling my show
43:07
for?
43:08
Call his show.
43:11
Well, I got sucked in, didn't I?
43:15
So sometimes I reject the calls, and maybe
43:18
I should have rejected that one.
43:19
I don't know who the hell that is,
43:21
but what difference does it make?
43:26
I can't help but laugh.
43:27
That's a frightening thing.
43:29
But there you go.
43:30
Do that on somebody else's show.
43:32
I think I'm going to cut that out
43:34
of the show.
43:35
No, I won't.
43:35
I'll leave it in there, whatever.
43:37
And I guess he made it through.
43:41
That's why they have screeners on huge radio
43:43
programs, and I don't have a screener.
43:45
It's just me.
43:46
So you get to come up and talk
43:48
about whatever you want.
43:49
Anyway, let's talk about youth and the appearance
43:55
of Dmitry Medvedev, chairman of the Security Council.
43:59
He said he had prepared an article that
44:02
he had written ahead of the National Holiday
44:05
for Victory Day, Dien Pobedy, which focused on
44:08
processes unfolding in Europe, the militarization of Europe,
44:12
which he's against.
44:14
And he says he hopes the article will
44:15
be received and published shortly, but he didn't
44:18
want to read it to people.
44:19
And he decided he wasn't going to formally
44:21
present it, and he wanted to get straight
44:23
to the discussions that are less formal, more
44:26
interactive, direct question and answer exchange with the
44:29
audience.
44:29
This is why I liked it so much.
44:32
This is what people are thinking about if
44:34
they get to talk to a real live
44:37
bigwig in the place of Russia.
44:40
This would be like a group of school
44:42
students getting up and being able to talk
44:44
to a national, a senator, a national, you
44:51
know, a judge, who knows what, a big
44:54
name in politics.
44:56
And that's what was going on at this
44:58
conference.
45:01
And the first question was, and he jumped
45:04
right into the questions, and a student named
45:07
Ramazan asked Medvedev whether, over his long political
45:11
career, his understanding of external threats had changed.
45:15
He also asked what Medvedev thought about differently,
45:20
but now he sees a different way based
45:22
on his experiences in government and politics.
45:28
Now, that was a pretty good question.
45:30
I'm sure they were, I mean, they absolutely
45:33
were prepared in advance.
45:34
Maybe they were given to him.
45:36
I doubt it.
45:37
It did not appear that way, that what
45:40
he got.
45:41
I believe these are off the cuff, as
45:43
are most of these sorts of things.
45:45
Another person who does these types of conferences
45:47
frequently is Poroshenko.
45:53
So Poroshenko, what is his name?
45:55
I think I got the wrong name there.
45:59
Lukashenko.
46:00
Now I got to look it up, because
46:02
I don't want to give the wrong name.
46:06
But I like listening to this guy too,
46:08
because he is, yeah, it is Lukashenko, and
46:12
not Poroshenko.
46:13
That guy was a Ukrainian.
46:14
But Alexander Lukashenko is an economist, a teacher,
46:19
a farmer.
46:21
He is the leader of Belarus, okay?
46:27
And he does this type of thing.
46:29
Medvedev does this type of thing.
46:31
And this happens frequently, and they're not afraid
46:34
to take questions, okay?
46:36
They're just not.
46:38
And so sometimes it's interesting to see what
46:41
was Medvedev's answer to what he had learned
46:44
over the years regarding external threats.
46:46
And he says that his understanding changed would
46:51
be an understatement.
46:52
He says that anyone, everyone changes with age
46:55
and experience.
46:56
I can tell you that I'm a different
46:57
person today than I was in my youth.
47:00
But the issue is deeper than personal aging.
47:04
After the collapse of the Soviet Union, he
47:06
said, almost everyone in Russia, from state leaders
47:09
to ordinary citizens, looked at relations with neighbors
47:13
and the Western world through rose-colored glasses.
47:17
They were very, very positive, as was I
47:20
in the 90s after the collapse of the
47:23
Soviet Union.
47:25
Our approach to Russia and the collapse of
47:29
the Soviet Union was horrible, just unbelievable.
47:36
We were pirates.
47:37
We went over there and stole everything that
47:39
we could steal.
47:40
And we went over there and basically raped
47:43
that country for years, monetarily and every other
47:49
way, treated them like crap.
47:51
You're reaping what you sow is what's happening
47:54
right now.
47:55
And where the opposite approach would have led
47:59
to a very different result.
48:01
But we don't do that.
48:03
We won.
48:05
We need to go continue to kick them
48:07
while they're down.
48:09
And trust me, they know that.
48:11
They know that we kick them while they
48:13
are down.
48:14
You think they aren't pushing back, that they're
48:17
not proud?
48:18
Trust me, they are.
48:20
And if we had taken a different approach,
48:22
and a lot of people are still normal
48:24
people.
48:24
There are a lot of people that still
48:26
want Western values, want Western democracy.
48:31
They want these things, but they see our
48:33
system with just as many holes as any
48:35
system that they've had or they had in
48:37
the 90s during the corruption and terror of
48:40
the 90s that they lived through.
48:42
And he was talking about that.
48:44
He said, at the time, many Russians believed
48:47
the West represented a prosperous model that Russia
48:51
should copy.
48:52
More importantly, they believed Russia would be welcomed
48:55
with open arms.
48:57
That's what I thought naively, because Russian and
49:00
Europeans lived on the same continent and shared
49:03
close cultural foundations.
49:05
They all grew up the same way.
49:07
They all had the same culture.
49:09
They all were involved in the same damn
49:11
overrunning each other in the wars forever that
49:14
they were doing.
49:15
And they did have close cultural foundations.
49:18
They all had...
49:19
Russia had just as much...
49:22
I don't want to say colonialists, but lords,
49:27
like castles and lords and people that were
49:29
in charge of regions.
49:31
They did the same things in the 17,
49:33
1800s, whatever you would call that, that England,
49:36
France, Spain, a lot of the same ones
49:38
did where people are taken over.
49:41
He talked about Alexander III's famous statement that
49:45
Russia has only two allies.
49:47
And he said this is how he feels
49:48
now.
49:48
And this is important because he said Russia
49:51
has only two allies, the army and the
49:53
navy.
49:56
That's how he feels now.
49:57
And because people just treat them like outcasts.
50:01
And he says, well, we're Russia.
50:02
We have two allies, the army and the
50:04
navy.
50:05
He says that even after the conflict in
50:07
the caucuses about South Ossetia and Abkhazia, when
50:10
he was president, and that's still a sore
50:14
spot for them, and I've been through there,
50:16
he still tried to build stable relations with
50:18
Europe.
50:19
He thought Europeans understood Russian concerns, but they
50:23
don't.
50:24
And later events showed otherwise.
50:26
He said that Europe does not understand anything
50:29
Russia says, does not want to hear Russia,
50:32
and speaking bluntly, wanted to end the Russian
50:35
state and basically just take it all over,
50:38
part it out.
50:40
And, you know, Europe is the colonialist, you
50:44
know, that they wanted to be able to
50:45
do that to Russia.
50:47
And they believe that.
50:49
Now, frankly, I believe that too.
50:50
And we've been involved in it.
50:52
We thought that's what was going to happen
50:53
with Ukraine coming after him.
51:01
And some say this is, you know, that
51:03
these openly Russophobic positions, that it do exist.
51:07
Others talk about it more carefully, but not
51:09
Medvedev.
51:09
He's pretty blunt.
51:11
This is what exists.
51:14
He argues this has become the central trend
51:16
of Western policy, especially regarding Europe and Russia.
51:20
His conclusion was this.
51:22
Russia's conflict with the Western world is an
51:24
existential threat to Russia.
51:28
That's what he says.
51:29
It is, in his words, a question of
51:31
Russia's very existence.
51:34
And there are no illusions about what is
51:36
coming next, meaning Europe's preparing for war by
51:40
2030 with Russia.
51:42
It's not going away.
51:44
They are pushing it even now.
51:46
The clown Zelensky, you know, the Green Goblin,
51:49
gets to go all over the world and
51:50
talk about how they're kicking the crap out
51:52
of Russia because they're bombing them with Western
51:55
missiles and attacking them with Western drone technology,
52:00
military intelligence, satellite data.
52:05
How do you think they're getting deep inside
52:07
of Russia to attack all these things?
52:09
Ukraine doesn't have any of that.
52:10
That's all Western technology and Western, mostly Western
52:16
and European intelligence.
52:18
U.S. is providing it too.
52:20
And that is how they are bombing inside
52:23
of, deep inside of Russia and are creating
52:28
threats.
52:29
And Russia is not putting, Zelensky comes out
52:32
and goes, look, we've scared them so much
52:34
that they're not putting all their technology and
52:37
their equipment on display for Victory Day.
52:40
They're only going to, there aren't going to
52:43
be any equipment.
52:44
You know why?
52:45
And this is Zelensky at the caucuses event
52:49
the last couple of days.
52:50
He says, that's because they don't have any
52:54
equipment left, is what he's saying.
52:57
That's crap.
52:58
But Russia is taking precautions because Ukraine says
53:01
they're going to bomb it and they're going
53:03
to bomb it.
53:04
And Russia says, you do, Kyiv is next
53:07
and Kyiv will be hit hard.
53:09
And they're trying to get a ceasefire during
53:12
Victory Day, which is a big freaking deal.
53:14
And they're trying to get a ceasefire for
53:16
both sides.
53:18
And meanwhile, Zelensky's touring the planet saying, ha
53:22
ha, you run on Victory Day.
53:24
You all just run because we're coming.
53:26
We're going to bomb Victory Day.
53:28
And that's the trouble with what's going on
53:31
in Ukraine, unfortunately.
53:33
The Ukrainians know, Zelensky knows, the West knows
53:38
that Russia is winning this war.
53:43
They are gaining large amounts of ground and
53:46
pushing and pushing, and they're doing it slowly,
53:50
but they keep moving forward.
53:53
And they're, you know, people are dying.
53:55
They're devastating the army of Ukraine.
53:58
And when dead bodies are turned over, Russia
54:01
turns over 6,000 to 8,000, and
54:03
Ukraine turns over 50,000, 29,000, these
54:07
terribly low numbers.
54:09
And they give back bodies that they find
54:12
of Russian soldiers.
54:14
And the numbers are astronomically different between Russia
54:18
and Ukraine when they exchange dead bodies.
54:21
And Ukraine doesn't want to take their dead
54:23
bodies because they can't afford to pay the
54:25
death benefit to the families.
54:28
So they try to not take them.
54:31
And, you know, and then they don't have
54:32
any bodies of Russian soldiers to provide back
54:36
because the numbers are so astronomically different on
54:40
one side from the other.
54:42
And so Medvedev talking about this and the
54:44
existential threat and what is going on is
54:48
pretty accurate.
54:49
And I think that people need to understand
54:51
this in the West.
54:52
And nobody talks about it.
54:54
You know, Trump will just say, oh, gee,
54:56
there's a lot of people dying.
54:57
And, you know, on both sides.
54:59
And that is true.
55:01
But it's a far different number when, and
55:04
Zelensky is nothing but lying.
55:07
He is propagandizing completely.
55:10
And us giving them the ability, they're like
55:13
a fly on a horse compared to what
55:16
they're doing to Russia with what Russia is
55:18
doing in reverse to them.
55:21
Russia is churning and taking property, taking territory,
55:24
and pushing through with their goals.
55:27
Ukraine has nothing.
55:29
And so to get good propaganda, they bomb
55:32
deep inside Russia and go, yeah, but look
55:34
what we can do.
55:35
Well, why don't you spend time taking care
55:38
of your own front line?
55:40
Because you can't win there.
55:42
You're not winning there.
55:44
So the only way you can win is
55:47
propagandizing strikes deep inside of Russia or making
55:50
threats on Victory Day.
55:52
It's a bullshit way to try to claim
55:54
you're winning a war.
55:56
Because you're not.
55:57
And this is not victory, okay?
56:00
You may be destroying production capacity, which is
56:04
destroying the world economy, along with what the
56:08
U.S. is doing in Iran and all
56:09
the crap going on in the Straits of
56:11
Hormuz and all the threats going on against
56:14
Chinese refineries.
56:20
We don't have anything.
56:21
All we have is politics, but they're not
56:24
winning on the ground, and they're losing every
56:27
day.
56:28
More territory, if you follow the numbers.
56:31
Question two.
56:33
If Europe is quarreling with America, they focused
56:35
on the quarrel between America and Europe, Trump
56:38
and the globalists inside of Europe.
56:40
And America is quarreling with the entire world.
56:44
This was an interesting question.
56:45
How does it end Mr. Medvedev?
56:48
How does it end Dmitry?
56:51
And he says, this was a question from
56:54
a girl named Anna.
56:55
She says, if the European countries are fighting
56:57
with America and America is fighting with the
56:59
whole world, what will this lead to?
57:01
And Medvedev says, his first comment, the victory
57:05
of Russia, Russian victory.
57:09
Because if everybody else is fighting, let everybody
57:12
else fight, and we'll rise from the remains.
57:17
An interesting perspective.
57:19
He expands upon that.
57:20
He said that although the conversation is public,
57:23
it's also blunt and frank.
57:25
He finds it amusing to watch relations between
57:27
the United States and Europe develop the way
57:30
they have.
57:31
He says that Russia should not approach this
57:33
from the standpoint of sympathy toward one side
57:36
or the other.
57:37
Russia has its own interests that don't match
57:40
either one of these and should focus on
57:42
its own successes, development, and support of the
57:45
Russian citizens.
57:46
He says, but still, he watches the U
57:48
.S. and Europe behaving like, his words, spiders
57:52
in a jar with great interest.
57:55
He says he is pleased to see it,
57:57
but will continue watching these events unfold.
58:00
His line is essentially, stock up on popcorn,
58:04
because this is going to be a movie
58:07
worth watching.
58:08
Because, you know, fools and idiots are running
58:11
the show, which is true in both America
58:13
and Europe.
58:15
And here's question number three.
58:18
Student from the Russian State University of Justice.
58:20
And he goes, man, there's a lot of
58:22
future lawyers in here, is what Medvedev said.
58:25
And he asked about Middle Eastern conflict.
58:28
And he noted the way that they have
58:29
burned and smoldered for centuries, and they're still
58:31
coming.
58:32
And she asked how to stop this fire,
58:36
this burning, and what kind of deal would
58:38
help get rid of that?
58:40
You know, can we support any of this?
58:42
And Medvedev first asks whether she plans to
58:44
become a judge.
58:45
And she answers evasively.
58:47
She goes, possibly.
58:48
And he praises that answer as the right
58:50
answer for any future judge.
58:54
Possibly.
58:54
Well, that's a good answer.
58:55
Then he says, without illusions, that he does
58:58
not believe the Middle East conflict will end
59:00
in the foreseeable future.
59:02
He says that chaos makes people a lot
59:06
of money.
59:07
Chaos makes people money.
59:10
This is one of the reasons I wanted
59:11
to share this very intelligent commentary and banter,
59:18
question and answer period.
59:20
Whether staged or not, this was very well
59:25
done.
59:26
And he argues that many countries and many
59:29
forces are interested in prolonging the conflict.
59:32
Even though people living in the Middle East
59:34
are suffering, people in Ukraine are suffering, outside
59:37
forces are continually throwing wood or gasoline onto
59:42
the fire.
59:42
Again, that's his comment, not mine.
59:45
He says the conflict is going to continue,
59:48
that sometimes being quiet, sometimes flaring up again,
59:52
and the current situation is connected, in his
59:54
words, to events around Iran and describes what
59:57
he says as launched by aggression by the
1:00:00
United States and Israel.
1:00:02
Just like everybody should know that this will
1:00:06
never end.
1:00:07
This isn't going to end.
1:00:08
Israel is even now trying to partner with
1:00:11
the UAE.
1:00:12
Can you imagine that?
1:00:14
An Arabic country actually picking Israel and saying,
1:00:20
and they're rolling the dice right now, the
1:00:23
UAE, on backing only Israel because of the
1:00:28
U.S. and the Israel conflict.
1:00:32
That's going to be a very interesting geopolitical
1:00:35
event.
1:00:36
He says, eventually, the Iran conflict will end
1:00:41
on some terms, but the underlying course and
1:00:43
source of contradiction is going to remain.
1:00:46
Why?
1:00:47
Because it cannot be resolved by any kind
1:00:49
of the deals that are now being constantly
1:00:53
discussed.
1:00:54
Now, that is accurate, because they will not
1:00:58
be resolved based on that.
1:01:00
He rejects the idea that geopolitical conflict can
1:01:03
be solved through simplistic transaction-style bargaining a
1:01:09
la Donald Trump.
1:01:10
It doesn't work that way.
1:01:11
I agree.
1:01:13
For Medvedev, resolution would be possible only through
1:01:16
full application of international law, which everybody tends
1:01:20
to ignore, including earlier decisions made by humanity,
1:01:27
basically.
1:01:27
He points to history, and he specifically references
1:01:31
UN resolutions on Palestine-Israeli settlement beginning in
1:01:36
1947 and says these should be the foundation
1:01:40
of the negotiation process.
1:01:42
His conclusion is that because many forces are
1:01:45
not interested in final resolution but are interested
1:01:50
only in money and making huge amounts of
1:01:52
money for the globalist leaders, conflicts in the
1:01:56
Middle East are not going to disappear in
1:01:58
the coming decades.
1:01:59
If anything, they're going to get worse.
1:02:02
Then somebody asks, a first-year law student,
1:02:05
another one from the Russian Customs Academy, asked
1:02:09
whether geopolitics can be the art of the
1:02:14
deal, you know, a la Trump, deal-making.
1:02:16
People are talking about this, about, you know,
1:02:19
Donald Trump is just a deal-maker.
1:02:20
He's not a politician.
1:02:22
And if it is, what rules should apply
1:02:24
to such deals?
1:02:25
If you're not going to use politics, you
1:02:27
know, if you're not going to use diplomacy,
1:02:29
diplomacy doesn't exist.
1:02:31
And if it really is a deal, what
1:02:32
rules apply to this deal?
1:02:34
Is it art of the deal?
1:02:35
Should everybody just read Donald Trump and that's
1:02:37
that?
1:02:38
And that's kind of the impression I got
1:02:40
when they read the question.
1:02:41
And he says that when geopolitical processes or
1:02:43
peace settlements are reduced to the term deal,
1:02:47
this simplifies and vulgarizes international life.
1:02:52
That's deep right there.
1:02:53
That's a good comment.
1:02:55
He says trade techniques very rarely work in
1:02:58
international relations.
1:03:00
Something can sometimes be exchanged for something else,
1:03:04
but only on a very limited scale.
1:03:08
Bizarre schemes do not work in geopolitics.
1:03:12
And I don't mean bizarre, I mean bazaar,
1:03:14
where you go to a bazaar or a,
1:03:16
we always called them, Lana, Svetlana and I,
1:03:21
when we would travel into Europe, into Arabic
1:03:23
countries, they have these things that they're really
1:03:26
called traps.
1:03:28
They're lovish key traps.
1:03:29
And you go into there and they're little
1:03:32
markets where people have their various stalls and
1:03:36
your deal making, that's a bazaar, okay?
1:03:38
Somebody's selling silk, somebody's selling nuts, somebody's selling
1:03:42
leather goods and sandals and stuff like that.
1:03:45
They're really freaking cool in Arabic countries.
1:03:48
Morocco had some great ones and you would
1:03:50
go through these things and bargain and try
1:03:53
to buy things and that is a bazaar.
1:03:56
And he said that bazaar type of deal
1:03:59
making, where you go in and the leather
1:04:02
jackets that are made in Morocco with a
1:04:05
starting price of $50 approximately, you can probably
1:04:08
get it for $25, but that's a one
1:04:12
-time deal.
1:04:14
One time.
1:04:15
Every customer can approach things differently and find
1:04:19
out what the number is for that person.
1:04:22
But somebody that knows this person and buys
1:04:24
a bunch of them isn't gonna get the
1:04:26
same deal as Sam who goes in and
1:04:28
says, I'll buy two of them, but I'm
1:04:30
only giving you $25 a piece, but I'll
1:04:32
give you dollars and not whatever they were,
1:04:36
real.
1:04:36
I can't remember what the currency was in
1:04:39
Morocco.
1:04:40
And I got two awesome leather jackets for
1:04:42
25 bucks a piece and a pair of
1:04:44
cool shoes.
1:04:46
Anyway, but he turns into civil law.
1:04:49
He says, you can't make international deals that
1:04:52
way.
1:04:53
It doesn't work.
1:04:55
And it really doesn't, to be truthful.
1:04:57
And he says, geopolitics is not a deal
1:05:01
making in that response.
1:05:02
When geopolitical processes or peace settlements are reduced
1:05:05
to the term deal, it's vulgar.
1:05:07
And he says, in civil law, a transaction
1:05:10
is an action aimed at creating, changing, or
1:05:13
terminating a legal relationship.
1:05:14
A unilateral transaction might be a will or
1:05:17
accepting an inheritance.
1:05:19
And he got into it.
1:05:20
A multilateral transaction is a contract.
1:05:23
But most conflicts in world history do not
1:05:26
end with a contract.
1:05:28
Sometimes, consensus is reached.
1:05:30
But oftentimes, it comes through capitulation of one
1:05:33
side or the other.
1:05:35
Somebody has to give.
1:05:37
And Medvedev argues that capitulation is often the
1:05:40
most effective way to determine a conflict's fate.
1:05:43
One side loses, the other wins.
1:05:45
By contrast, manipulation through a deal creates a
1:05:49
situation where the conflict always flares up again.
1:05:53
Now, think about that perspective.
1:05:56
That's an interesting perspective.
1:05:58
Because that means, and this is Iranian concept,
1:06:01
Russian concept.
1:06:02
If you're in an existential threat to your
1:06:05
very being, like Iran is, like Russia is,
1:06:09
Ukraine wants to destroy them, Europe wants to
1:06:12
destroy Russia, and part it out and steal
1:06:15
all of their resources.
1:06:17
And by the way, that's exactly what the
1:06:19
US and Israel want to do to Iran.
1:06:22
This is an existential threat.
1:06:24
And the deal-making that is going on
1:06:26
in Iran right now, they're going, screw that.
1:06:28
We aren't taking that deal.
1:06:30
There is no deal.
1:06:31
You're either going to destroy us or you're
1:06:34
not.
1:06:36
But we're done talking.
1:06:38
This is how people think when it's an
1:06:42
existential threat to them.
1:06:44
And by the way, that is why the
1:06:46
people believe and the people go through it.
1:06:49
They don't want Israel or the US running
1:06:52
Iran, Donald Trump picking who it is, and
1:06:55
you kill off the leaders.
1:06:56
They're going, screw you.
1:06:57
We still want to pick our own.
1:06:59
Donald Trump does not get to pick our
1:07:01
leaders.
1:07:03
I mean, I'm hearing this when I'm hearing
1:07:06
this entire concept, because it's the exact same
1:07:09
thing in Russia.
1:07:10
These are two very proud cultures.
1:07:15
Russian culture, very proud of being Russian.
1:07:19
And they should be.
1:07:19
There's tons positive.
1:07:21
Iranians, very proud of being Iranians.
1:07:24
They don't want American justice or American systems
1:07:30
in Iran.
1:07:31
They're not looking for Europe to lead them.
1:07:35
Europe and America have screwed them for decades,
1:07:37
probably centuries.
1:07:39
You go back, they've been stealing from them
1:07:41
forever.
1:07:42
Colonialism and all that stuff.
1:07:44
This is what's happened.
1:07:46
And so he says, real settlement requires the
1:07:49
hard work of many people, diplomats, military officials,
1:07:52
economists, and state leaders.
1:07:55
It is a delicate fabric woven over days,
1:07:57
months or years.
1:07:58
The strength of that fabric determines whether future
1:08:00
conflict will reignite or never occurs again.
1:08:05
Geopolitics is much more complex than any commercial
1:08:08
deal.
1:08:09
And that is true.
1:08:11
So Donald's art of the deal isn't going
1:08:13
to work in Iran.
1:08:16
It's just not.
1:08:18
And I think he's bumping up against that.
1:08:21
There's like 18 questions, and I'm only on
1:08:23
the fifth one, and I don't think we're
1:08:24
going to make it today.
1:08:26
But what historical period resembles the present?
1:08:29
This was pretty cool.
1:08:30
A student named Angelina says, what event or
1:08:33
period in history Medvedev would compare to today?
1:08:38
And Medvedev says that Russia is currently in
1:08:40
the middle of the special military operation in
1:08:42
Ukraine, which he describes plainly as war.
1:08:46
He says local conflicts often precede global conflict.
1:08:49
And he would compare the current time to
1:08:52
the period before World War I, and partly
1:08:55
to 1930s before World War II.
1:08:58
Now that's scary, because a lot of people
1:09:02
believe that we're in the preamble to World
1:09:04
War III right now.
1:09:07
Some people argue that it's already started.
1:09:10
And he explains that before World War I,
1:09:12
humanity had not previously experienced a full global
1:09:16
war in the modern sense, which is true.
1:09:18
There had been large campaigns like Napoleon, which
1:09:21
Russia won.
1:09:22
World War I occurred in the new technological
1:09:25
era.
1:09:26
Tanks, aircraft, modern artillery, poison gas.
1:09:30
And despite all the conversations in cigar halls
1:09:35
and polite pre-war discussions, the war destroyed
1:09:39
existing ideas about warfare and turned into a
1:09:44
meat grinder, and Europe punished itself.
1:09:48
Then he moved into the 30s, which a
1:09:50
lot of it is common today.
1:09:52
Militarization of Germany, the rise of fascism, the
1:09:56
preparation for war across Europe.
1:09:59
He says this is happening right now, fascism
1:10:02
and preparation for war.
1:10:04
They're being very open about it.
1:10:05
He says something similar.
1:10:07
European leaders constantly report that war with Russia
1:10:11
is inevitable.
1:10:12
They are planning their own populations for it.
1:10:17
Russia will attack them.
1:10:19
That's not true.
1:10:20
In my opinion, they're going to attack Russia.
1:10:22
They are a self-fulfilling prophecy.
1:10:25
If you say it often enough, everybody is
1:10:28
buying in.
1:10:29
That needs to stop, but it won't.
1:10:33
He says Russia has made no such aggressive
1:10:35
declarations towards Europe in any speech, any document,
1:10:39
or any policy statement.
1:10:41
Russia, he says, is forced to conduct the
1:10:44
special military operation in Ukraine for reasons that
1:10:48
everyone knows, but has no aggressive designs at
1:10:52
all against Europe.
1:10:53
And that's absolutely true, by the way.
1:10:56
Nevertheless, the European war machine is priming up
1:11:00
for war.
1:11:00
Europe is producing large amounts of weapons.
1:11:03
Leaders of large European countries are saying they
1:11:05
must prepare to fight Russian aggression.
1:11:09
His warning is very direct.
1:11:12
If somebody says every day that war is
1:11:15
inevitable, war will begin.
1:11:18
No doubt, there will always be enough pretext
1:11:21
to start a war and blame the other
1:11:24
side.
1:11:25
What have we done in Iran?
1:11:27
Israel and the US, two years running, and
1:11:31
many before that, started war against Iran.
1:11:35
Yet, they're blamed.
1:11:36
Iran is blamed.
1:11:37
There will always be plenty of pretexts to
1:11:40
start war.
1:11:41
He says the task of a true politician
1:11:43
today is to cool down, calm down, and
1:11:46
find constructive conversations.
1:11:48
And Americans hear this better than Europeans, according
1:11:52
to Medvedev, because Americans are a little more
1:11:55
pragmatic.
1:11:56
We don't want to.
1:11:58
This was a compliment to us in America.
1:12:01
He said Europe is not pragmatic.
1:12:04
He says he cannot compare today to anything
1:12:07
except 1914 and 1939.
1:12:11
I think that's very well put, which is
1:12:15
why I'm sharing some of this with you.
1:12:17
I may have to continue it tomorrow, because
1:12:19
I probably shouldn't have spent so much time
1:12:22
on my stupid story at the beginning of
1:12:24
the show.
1:12:25
But here's another question.
1:12:28
A student named Artyom asked what voters' main
1:12:32
demands will be in the upcoming State Duma
1:12:37
election, and what does he think that voters
1:12:40
want the most?
1:12:42
And Medvedev notes that he cannot separate his
1:12:44
answer from the fact that he heads a
1:12:46
political party, one of the political parties, so
1:12:49
his comments will also reflect the approach of
1:12:52
his party called United Russia.
1:12:53
He says the main thing most Russians want
1:12:56
is victory and the completion of the military
1:12:59
operation in Ukraine.
1:13:01
To achieve that, much still needs to be
1:13:03
done on the front and in the rear.
1:13:05
Victory, he says, will bring stability and allow
1:13:08
Russia to develop a full and predictable infrastructure
1:13:13
in that way.
1:13:14
And after that, people want the same things
1:13:16
they have wanted.
1:13:17
Higher wages, good jobs, great housing, family support,
1:13:22
solutions to demographic problems, modern health care, modern
1:13:25
education.
1:13:26
Those tasks remain constant, but to address them,
1:13:29
Russia needs stability and security.
1:13:31
And according to Medvedev, that stability and security
1:13:34
can be achieved only through the fulfillment of
1:13:37
the goals of the special military operation, which,
1:13:40
by the way, are close.
1:13:42
That's me saying that, not Medvedev.
1:13:44
They're almost there.
1:13:47
He was asked then, a management student from
1:13:49
the Plekhanov Russian University of Economics says he
1:13:53
uses artificial intelligence frequently and asks how Medvedev's
1:13:57
opinion of AI has changed over the past
1:13:59
year.
1:14:00
He also asked what Medvedev uses, which platform
1:14:04
AI he uses in work or personal life.
1:14:08
Medvedev says he has begun to feel somewhat
1:14:09
cautious because he now uses artificial intelligence often
1:14:13
because it's convenient.
1:14:15
He assumes most people in the audience do
1:14:18
the same thing.
1:14:18
He says this change has happened right in
1:14:21
front of young people's eyes and is transforming
1:14:24
the world, including education.
1:14:26
He says he chairs work related to Russia's
1:14:29
Council on Education and Science and regularly asks
1:14:32
ministers how education should deal with homework in
1:14:37
the AI age.
1:14:38
Now, isn't that interesting?
1:14:40
I wonder what we're doing about AI in
1:14:45
America and doing people's homework.
1:14:47
The dog ate my homework shouldn't exist anymore
1:14:50
when you get AI to do it for
1:14:52
you.
1:14:53
In the past, students came home and did
1:14:55
homework, or they didn't.
1:14:57
Now, with AI, the issue is entirely different,
1:15:00
and it could create a serious problem for
1:15:02
educational systems worldwide.
1:15:04
And he acknowledges that AI has powerfully changed
1:15:08
people's lives by allowing quick answers to questions.
1:15:12
But the key problem, he says, is trust
1:15:16
of the platform.
1:15:18
The same thing that we have here.
1:15:20
Can people trust the results that AI gives
1:15:23
them?
1:15:24
He is concerned with both humanity's question and
1:15:28
the question in exacting sciences like biology, chemistry,
1:15:35
stuff like that.
1:15:37
And in the exact scientist, a specialist often
1:15:40
has some sense of what the results should
1:15:42
be.
1:15:43
But in humanities or personal relationships, sociology, history,
1:15:48
stuff like that, it's a little less clear.
1:15:50
AI could invent historical events that never happened.
1:15:55
And there are many examples.
1:15:56
I've talked about them before in the legal
1:15:58
thing.
1:15:59
So they're going through the same things over
1:16:01
there with their AI.
1:16:02
The most difficult issues, he say, are his
1:16:04
understanding how AI reached the conclusion, how the
1:16:08
system developed that answer.
1:16:11
And you learn, AI is learning from you
1:16:15
while you're learning from AI.
1:16:17
But it will also artificially give you what
1:16:21
you want to hear.
1:16:23
You know, it's interesting to me.
1:16:25
The challenge for humanity, according to Medvedev, is
1:16:27
verifying the chain of reasoning, how it reasoned
1:16:30
it out, the sources and the connections AI
1:16:33
is analyzing.
1:16:35
To check even a relatively simple answer requires
1:16:38
labor of many people, and people generally don't
1:16:41
do that.
1:16:42
They simply trust the result, which he says
1:16:45
is a mistake.
1:16:46
For Medvedev, the main challenge in AI is
1:16:49
verification.
1:16:50
If humanity can properly verify AI results, AI
1:16:54
will be useful.
1:16:56
But AI is increasingly being given control over
1:16:59
major processes, even in critical technologies.
1:17:03
He is not speaking about a Terminator or
1:17:06
a war robot, you know, some kind of
1:17:09
thing like that, but about the management of
1:17:11
large-scale systems.
1:17:12
If AI is entrusted with such systems, people
1:17:17
have to be confident in the outcome.
1:17:20
This is why Russia is developing its own
1:17:22
AI systems, and only a handful of countries
1:17:26
have serious AI capabilities.
1:17:28
The U.S., China, Russia, there's a little
1:17:31
bit in France, something in Britain, and some
1:17:34
develop in the Arabic world, with very few
1:17:36
others possess such technology.
1:17:39
But Russia needs its own AI because anything
1:17:43
can be embedded into searches and analytic systems,
1:17:46
and users cannot just trust what is being
1:17:49
provided from outside because they don't know what
1:17:52
is hidden inside.
1:17:54
And his conclusion?
1:17:55
He supports AI, but approaches it with caution.
1:17:59
He never did say which one he uses.
1:18:04
There's the youngest person in the, well, the
1:18:06
youngest question presenter, anyway, in the audience, was
1:18:11
a ninth-grade student named Elizaveta, Elizabeth, said
1:18:15
that movement is impossible.
1:18:19
Here's what she said.
1:18:21
Movement is impossible without trial and error.
1:18:25
You know, we have to take a variety
1:18:27
of approaches.
1:18:28
And she says, how do I stop being
1:18:30
afraid of making mistakes and asks Medvedev to
1:18:34
share his personal rules?
1:18:36
Now, this is a very young girl, and
1:18:38
that's a very good question.
1:18:40
Whether it's a plant or not, I don't
1:18:42
know, don't care.
1:18:43
But, you know, I wanted to see what
1:18:45
Medvedev said, and he gave three rules.
1:18:47
This is interesting.
1:18:48
He said, first, this is blunt.
1:18:52
First, it's better to not make mistakes at
1:18:54
all.
1:18:54
Don't make mistakes.
1:18:55
That's number one.
1:18:56
That's the main rule.
1:18:58
You know, be careful and don't make mistakes.
1:19:00
Second, when making a decision, you should detach
1:19:03
from the emotion of it all.
1:19:05
This is accurate.
1:19:07
If you're emotional about something, you are not
1:19:10
in decision-making mode.
1:19:12
You know, if you're, you know, that's why
1:19:15
people go to lawyers, because lawyers look objectively
1:19:17
and analytically at something and take the emotion
1:19:21
out.
1:19:21
I don't give a crap what is going
1:19:24
on in your divorce, doesn't matter.
1:19:26
I would say this to people all the
1:19:28
time.
1:19:28
They'd come into me and want to talk
1:19:30
about divorce.
1:19:31
And my first thing that I always said
1:19:33
was, you know what?
1:19:35
I don't even want you here unless you're
1:19:38
getting a divorce.
1:19:40
If you've made the decision and you're not
1:19:43
just trying to scare the other side or
1:19:46
trying to get the other side to see
1:19:48
reality, then I will represent you.
1:19:50
If you're game playing, I don't want anything
1:19:53
to do with you.
1:19:54
It's bad for you.
1:19:55
It's horrible for the lawyer.
1:19:57
And the lawyer gets blamed in the end.
1:20:00
When these two people get back together, be
1:20:03
like, I love you.
1:20:04
And they jump back in each other's arms.
1:20:06
And then they blame their lawyers for causing
1:20:09
the fight in the first place.
1:20:10
That's BS, but it happens far too often
1:20:14
in family law.
1:20:15
So he says you have to detach from
1:20:18
emotions.
1:20:19
Hasty, emotional decisions lead to mistakes.
1:20:22
Remember he's talking to a ninth grader.
1:20:24
So first don't make mistakes.
1:20:26
That's the second is when making decisions detached
1:20:29
from emotional, hasty, emotional decisions lead to mistakes.
1:20:33
And third, if you do make a mistake,
1:20:35
first thing is to admit it to yourself.
1:20:39
This can be difficult because people justify their
1:20:42
behavior, their conclusions, and the data they relied
1:20:45
on.
1:20:46
Sometimes in difficult cases, especially, it's hard to
1:20:50
admit the mistake publicly among colleagues or even
1:20:55
to an undefined public.
1:20:56
These are the three rules that he tries
1:20:59
to follow.
1:20:59
That doesn't mean he's never made a mistake.
1:21:01
He cites the ancient maxim that only the
1:21:04
person who does nothing makes no mistakes.
1:21:07
If you don't do anything, you can't make
1:21:10
a mistake.
1:21:11
And if you're attempting to do something, everybody
1:21:13
makes mistakes.
1:21:14
And one should treat mistakes calmly and try
1:21:18
not to make them in the first place.
1:21:19
So there you go.
1:21:24
Wow.
1:21:25
Number nine.
1:21:26
This will probably be the last one that
1:21:29
we get to.
1:21:30
And maybe I'll continue tomorrow.
1:21:31
Maybe I won't.
1:21:32
Today is the longest day in radio, the
1:21:34
greatest day in radio at Lake Ozark Real
1:21:36
Estate of the Art Studio.
1:21:38
And you know, you can call it if
1:21:40
you have real commentary and not BS like
1:21:43
that joker who called in earlier provided for
1:21:47
us as a little bit of an entertaining
1:21:49
interlude.
1:21:53
I prefer Medvedev than, you know, some guy.
1:21:57
Let's tell you that phone number was a
1:21:59
607 number from Hornell, New York.
1:22:02
That's what it says.
1:22:04
And I'd get some lunatic calling in, calling
1:22:07
on whoever guy you said, calling on his
1:22:11
show, not mine.
1:22:13
Nuts.
1:22:15
Anyway, the question was from a girl named
1:22:17
Tatiana, a great Russian name from Moscow.
1:22:21
Moscow says the U.S. had traditionally tried
1:22:23
to act as a mediator in difficult conflicts.
1:22:26
And she asks whether America is currently managing
1:22:29
or showing that role.
1:22:33
Medvedev's first asks her what she thinks.
1:22:36
He says, well, what do you think?
1:22:37
And she goes, well, they're not doing it
1:22:39
very well.
1:22:41
So the U.S. isn't you know, they're
1:22:43
not managing conflict at all.
1:22:46
And Medvedev says, well, I fully agree with
1:22:49
that analysis.
1:22:50
He says it's difficult for anyone to be
1:22:52
a mediator.
1:22:53
That's true.
1:22:53
And there are no patented mediators, although many
1:22:56
claim that role.
1:22:57
He then says a country that steals presidents.
1:23:00
He's talking about Maduro and starts conflicts themselves
1:23:04
can hardly be considered an effective mediator.
1:23:07
He says sarcastically to the claim by a
1:23:10
well-known politician that he ended nine or
1:23:13
ten wars.
1:23:16
And Medvedev says everybody understands what that means
1:23:19
because practically all of those conflicts have resumed.
1:23:23
Still, he says he cannot deny one thing.
1:23:26
At least the U.S. current administration under
1:23:28
Donald Trump is trying to do things in
1:23:32
that direction.
1:23:33
He contrasts this with the Biden administration, which
1:23:36
he says simply harnessed the wagons of war
1:23:39
and financed conflicts to the maximum degree.
1:23:44
This is a compliment to the old Trumpster.
1:23:46
He noted that main subsidies and payments to
1:23:49
Ukraine were made under Biden, involving huge amounts
1:23:53
of money, which Trump himself often comments upon.
1:23:57
He says Trump administration is trying, but effectiveness
1:24:01
is limited.
1:24:02
First, the U.S. has the reputation and
1:24:05
the burden of that reputation that he already
1:24:07
described.
1:24:09
Second, the U.S. current administration is between
1:24:14
a rock and a hard place, he said,
1:24:15
the hammer and an anvil.
1:24:17
The hammer is Congress and the anvil is
1:24:19
Europe.
1:24:20
Between these two forces, the administration is not
1:24:23
free in its own approach, even though Trump
1:24:26
says he's dissatisfied with Europe and that Europe
1:24:30
is just not doing enough.
1:24:32
Medvedev notes that many assessments made by Trump
1:24:35
and Vance coincide with his own feelings about
1:24:38
Europe.
1:24:40
Now, this could be the next president of
1:24:42
Russia, by the way.
1:24:43
He's a very well placed for that.
1:24:47
They have seen Europe's weaknesses.
1:24:49
He still does not regard the United States
1:24:52
as a an absolute mediator, but he says
1:24:57
it is positive that the current administration is
1:25:00
at least trying because Americans, and he said
1:25:03
it again, are very pragmatic.
1:25:05
They don't want these wars.
1:25:07
He also says the recent conversations between Putin
1:25:10
and Trump confirmed this, and his conclusion was,
1:25:15
we will live and we shall see what
1:25:18
happens.
1:25:20
We will continue to live and see what
1:25:25
happens.
1:25:26
And on that note, we will close.
1:25:28
There's still eight, 10 questions.
1:25:30
I may continue with them tomorrow just because
1:25:32
I think the topic is interesting to see
1:25:34
what they're discussing on the other side of
1:25:36
the planet.
1:25:37
His Vistuplenia was well worth watching and very
1:25:42
interesting.
1:25:43
And I hope you enjoyed my recitation of
1:25:45
it because I only got halfway through.
1:25:48
This is International Flavor.
1:25:50
I am Samuel Trapp.
1:25:51
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1:25:57
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1:26:00
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1:26:02
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1:26:03
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1:26:13
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1:26:17
the next program, The Dam Swag.