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Since 2020, the state and its legions have been working in
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lockstep to lock down liberty for the masses.
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When tyranny tuned up, our guest today drew a line in the sand.
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He took to the airwaves and is now on his way towards becoming
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elected Vice President of the Libertarian Party.
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He's been spreading the sound money gospel of Ron Paul and
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Satoshi. We have an hour with Clint
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Russell of Liberty Lockdown, so buckle up and if you're a
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status, you may want to turn the channel because a fistful of
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freedom is coming at you in 321. We have benefited tremendously
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from winning the Cold War. The the problem is that instead
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of realizing the competitive advantage we had and
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capitalizing on that peaceful period, we turned towards
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militarism that was highly avoidable.
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Rudy Giuliani famously called Ron Paul out and tried to shame
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him in front of the GOP during the debates, and Ron didn't
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waver whatsoever, and I'm glad he didn't because he was 100%
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right. Our foreign interventionism
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ultimately creates deleterious consequences for the American
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people. We want from that position of
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global dominance, undisputed global hegemon, best economy,
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best military, highly educated people.
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We could have been a dominant force for the next 100 years.
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And we squandered it because the fucking Project for a New
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American Century lunatics got into a place of power and by
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some sick joke, now the left is also espousing the same
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ideology. We should not be policing and
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socializing the cost of making a functioning economic system for
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the entire world. Why should the American taxpayer
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be held hostage to the security of every corporation on earth to
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make sure that the economic system continues to function?
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I think it's an absurdity. I want a God damn planet that my
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fucking kids can be safe in. Do you Have you given up so much
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that you have just written off the future of your progeny that
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you don't there? What happens to them?
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Because if that's who you are, then you need to look in a
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fucking mirror. We have time tested, beautiful
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ideas to counter these utterly shitty ideas that are being
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pushed on us by some of the least impressive, most worthless
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human beings that have ever walked the face of the planet.
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And you think we can't win? I'm not going to lose to these
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people. You're going to lose to these
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people. Are you kidding me?
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We're winning today and the next day, and the next week and the
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next month and the next year. We're going to fucking win.
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Over and over and over again. But we have setbacks.
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Yes, it's inevitable that we will.
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But at the end of the day, liberty will win out.
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The spirit of humanity will not be extinguished as long as
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people like you and I are breathing.
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Are you breathing? Yeah, Me too.
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We're breathing. Have some fucking hope.
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Can you can you feel that thing beating in your chest right now?
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Clint's in the house. Welcome my brother.
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How we doing? I'm good.
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I did not expect that. That was intense, man.
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Holy crap. That was awesome.
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That's all your stuff. No, I appreciate it, man.
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That was that was a killer edit. Wow.
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I yeah, that was awesome. Thank you.
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Hey, appreciate you and all the work you're doing, man.
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And last time we talked, we were with Jethro and you would just
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barely have that idea of being vice president, kind of like
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floating out there. And I remember I was kind of
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like, hey, get send it. Just do it.
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Claim, you know, But this is coming fast.
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And a lot of people don't know the vice presidential nominee
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isn't elected by who wins, Right.
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So there's an interesting dynamic at play here that could
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leave you as Robert F Kennedy's vice president.
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Am I getting that right? Could you, could you lay this
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out for me? And just also, man, how far
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you've come the past few years? Incredible.
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Well, thank you. Yes, that that is the the unique
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aspect of the Libertarian Party nomination process is that the
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delegates, which will be about 1000 of them about 10 days from
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now or a week from now in Washington DC, will get to
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select via their vote who gets to be the presidential nominee
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for the Libertarians as well as the vice presidential nominee
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for the Libertarians. Now because RFK has already
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selected his vice presidential candidate, I think he has
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already signaled quite definitively that he will not be
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seeking the Libertarian Party nomination.
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So I don't think that there's a chance of that happening, but
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you never know. Theoretically, I guess it could
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still happen if he wanted to shelve his running mate, but
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that's that's unlikely. So it it looks like it's
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probably a three man race, maybe 4 when it comes to the
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presidential nomination process and for the vice presidential
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nomination process. I don't even know who's actually
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challenging me at this point. So we're going to find out on
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Friday night. I'll be debating them live in DC
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and we'll see. We'll see what the delegates
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think. And I think from that intro, you
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guys know, you better turn your ass in.
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Turn your ass into that. That's going to be awesome, man.
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But let's talk about this. RFK is going to be there.
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Trump's going to be there. They've been, you know, kind of
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going at it a little bit. What is going to go down here,
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Vivek, as well as going to be there.
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I heard Afroman's going to turn up.
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He got a remake about somebody in their crack pipe coming out,
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so that's pretty cool. Looking forward to that.
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But dude, what is what? What sort of fireworks do you
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see and what are you excited about or what do you see coming
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out of this? Yeah, I mean it's a it's a
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really momentous occasion for the libertarians.
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We have never had anything close to this kind of you know,
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magnifying glass put on our movement.
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So I think I I view it as a massive net positive that we're
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going to have the the favorite to be the next president of the
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United States. The and Donald Trump, the
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candidate who represents the biggest threat to the duopoly
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since I mean since Ross Perot for sure in RFK junior Vivek
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Ramaswamy who looks like he could be the favorite to be the
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president in 2028. He wants to come in.
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He wants to debate whoever gets the VP nomination which will
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probably be me. So this is AI mean this is a
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crazy crazy event, a crazy moment.
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Tim Poole's going to be there myself.
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Luke Radowski will be doing our show live from there.
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I've I've heard that, you know, 50 or 100 media outlets have
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reached out and asked for credentials.
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This is going to be a huge, huge event.
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Huge. I mean, I can't overstate how
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huge it's going to be compared to every other libertarian event
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I've ever been to. This is going to trounce it.
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Probably 50X man. Clint, you you got me so pumped
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up right now and I'm thinking like a lot of people blatantly.
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And I think it's just like all of it's happening at the right
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time. People are blatantly seeing like
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this isn't good. I don't know if they think we're
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a serious country anymore. A lot of stuff very obvious with
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that. But also at the same time,
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Clint, our loving overlords and experts appear to have it all
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under control. Let's check it out.
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Government can't go bankrupt because we can print our own
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money. It obviously begs the question,
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why exactly are we borrowing in a currency that we print
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ourselves? I'm waiting for someone to stand
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up and say why don't we borrow our own currency in the first
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place? Like you said, they print the
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dollar, so why? Why does the government even
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borrow? Well, the so the, I mean again,
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some of this stuff gets some of the language that the MMM, some
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of the language and concepts are just confusing.
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I mean, the government definitely prints money and it
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definitely lends that money, which is why the government
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definitely prints money and then it lends that money by by, by
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selling bonds. Is that what they do?
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They they they. Yeah, they they they sell bonds.
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Yeah, they sell bonds, right. Because they sell bonds and
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people buy the bonds and lend them the money.
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Yeah. So a lot of times, a lot of
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times, at least in my year with with MMT, the, the language and
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the concepts can be kind of unnecessarily confusing.
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But there is no question that the government prints money and
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then it uses that money to. So yeah, I I guess I'm just, I
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don't I can't really talk. I don't, I don't get it.
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I don't know what they're talking about like because it's
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like the government clearly prints money, does it all the
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time and it clearly borrows otherwise we wouldn't be having
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this debt and deficit conversation.
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So I don't think there's anything confusing there.
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Not confusing his brain. Just Mitch McConnell right
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there. I don't know, Clint.
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Should we trust the experts or? I just want people to realize
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that that is a top economic advisor to the Biden
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administration. He doesn't understand even the
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the most base level of how our economic system works.
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And to his to in his defense, it is fairly complicated what they
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do with derivatives and, you know, discount windows and
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everything else. It's like, this is a complicated
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system, but if you're the top economic advisor and you can't
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find any sort of pathway to getting a cogent point out, you
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need to resign. I mean, but these are the people
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that are advising the president of the United States.
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I mean, This is why I'm, I'm a Bitcoiner.
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This is why I'm a Libertarian. This is why I'm an Austrian.
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This is why I'm a hard money guy.
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Is that like, our system is fatally broken?
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Like it is not going to be repaired.
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The vast majority of Americans don't even understand the the
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circumstances in which they are functioning.
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Some of them are starting to wake up to it because they every
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time they go and they get groceries they have to get a
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second mortgage on their home. Mike good.
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I'm glad that they're they're slowly waking up.
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But the reality is that there is no political will.
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The GOP has no interest in actually doing what needs to be
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done. Donald Trump is responsible for
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green lighting the $100 billion foreign aid package according to
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Lindsey Graham and and and Mike Johnson.
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And now just yesterday or this morning actually Boris Johnson
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came out and said that it was Donald Trump that got that over
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the over the finish line. That ain't America first.
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That ain't fiscal responsibility.
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That ain't conservatism. That ain't Americanism.
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That ain't anything. It is just pure totalitarian
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statism, money printing, non-stop.
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And it has to stop and we have to have a a third party in this
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country that rises up to represent the opposition to this
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insanity. If you are interested in having
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a future for your children, for for yourself, let's be honest,
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this is not some distant future. This is the now and we need a
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revolution now and peacefully, ideally.
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And no bet at at the perfect moment, at this like precipice
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of time, like we separated church from state and here we
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are at this moment. Ron Paul had been speaking on
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for so long oh wait, in the Fed. That became the mantra and
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people didn't know what the hell the Fed was.
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People didn't know what fractional reserve banking was.
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I don't think most people had had any idea about the duopoly
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system. But Ron Paul, who is technically
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a Republican, ran as a libertarian in 88.
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But he kind of played that game and was always, you know, no
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lobbyist came to his door, no tax increases, no increase in
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budget. Is there is this, that flipping
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of the moment where, you know, there's this old thesis.
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I think it's Deborah Jay's Law and it kind of says because of a
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two party system that top party will always absorb the movement
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that's growing. And right now, maybe it kind of
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seems, are the conservatives trying to adopt that that Ron
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Paul Satoshi message of sound money?
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What is going on? And what do you think at the at
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the Libertarian convention is going to be the heart of the
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issue? Because I think we understand,
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because we've been around it so long as the money's broken, you
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nothing. You won't fix a thing by voting
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harder, filing a petition or whatever the hell until you fix
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the money, all the incentives and the structures and the
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tentacles going everywhere, we're all fucked.
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So how do we, how do we take in the Fed mainstream again and and
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build on all those things Ron Paul did?
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Yeah, I mean that's that's the trillion quadrillion dollar
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question. How do we, how do we actually
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make our ideas, you know, come to pass in reality?
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You know, Ron had had an incredible moment from, I mean,
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not really a moment many years from O 8 through 12 that that
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really shed light on the Austrian economics and the sound
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money in the Fed mantra, like moment.
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But we need to actually have that happen.
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Like it's not enough to just talk about, it's not enough to
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chant it. We need it to actually be
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implemented. And if we can implement it at
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the federal level, then maybe we can salvage the US dollar.
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I doubt it. I'm just being totally honest.
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I seriously, I sincerely doubt that that'll actually happen.
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Which is why, you know, more and more people in my camp have kind
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of just tuned out from the political system and tuned into
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Bitcoin and they're just like, I'm done, I'm done playing this
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game. I'm going to just opt out
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myself. The issue, and the reason that
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I'm interested in running for the vice presidency, is that
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it's not really enough to just opt out.
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Like if you if you live in America, you're going to suffer
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the consequences of a either a hyperinflationary blowout or if
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the interest rates get get hiked, Paul Volcker in the early
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80s. You could have a a Great
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Depression, but either way, it's going to suck.
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It's going to be terrible. Like your Bitcoin may be fine
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and you may crush and you may be one of the richest people, but
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you're still going to be surrounded by chaos.
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And and that's that's the kind of the the conundrum that people
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in our camp are always put into. It's like, yeah, we'll probably
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be all right because we understand what's happening, but
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we're also surrounded by a bunch of people that don't have a fun
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clue what's going on and they're going to just be looking for
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blood and vengeance when they when the whole House of Cards
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comes crumbling down. So that's that's really why I'm
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running is that I just I want to give as many people as possible
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the opportunity to opt out before you know the the end
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times and the end times are are nigh.
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Unfortunately on top of that we also have the risk of World War
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three. We have multiple proxy wars
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which apparently America first Donald Trump doesn't have a
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problem with he's he's OK with funding proxy wars with nuclear
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powers. I think that is suicidal.
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I think it's just extraordinarily dangerous and on
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a scale that I can't even really quantify.
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And this is coming from someone who's been incredibly critical
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of Donald Trump when it came to the the 2020 lockdown era.
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Granted, yes, it was the governor's, but he played a a
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major role in that too. So we just need better man.
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We need, we need better messaging.
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We need, you know we need a better electorate.
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We need more people that understand what you and I
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understand. And at this point, like and and
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enough of us. We need a lot more.
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All right, Clint. So thinking about all that and
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we have this convention coming up and you said this is going to
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be the biggest Libertarian convention of all time.
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You've got two of the top three leading candidates up there and
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you just slayed the the two party system.
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How would like you? And you're a vice presidential
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candidate now who knows where you are in the next 5-6, ten
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years is going to be crazy. But as long as you keep
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preaching this sound money, gospel and these things, you
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know it's it's going to go. But yeah, what is your major
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critique of both RFK and Trump from the libertarian viewpoint?
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Yeah, well, let let me start by saying the good things, because
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libertarians are very good at critiquing, but they're very bad
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at complimenting. So I I love the fact that RFK
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has been courageous enough to to speak out about, you know, the
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insanity that exists within the FBI, the CIA, the Deep State,
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broadly, Big Pharma. Like, kudos, kudos all the way
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around. He is opening up the Overton
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window. Anthony Fauci, NIH, he
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understands where all the bodies are buried.
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I love that aspect of him. Donald Trump, he has done a
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fantastic job at highlighting the depravity of our media and
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our political establishment. Like he he really has shed light
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on that In a in a way, he's also demonstrated that our judicial
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system is corrupt to its core. I appreciate all of these
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things. These are all lessons that that
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I think the American people are are taking in from both of these
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men. The issue unfortunately is that
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both of them are big, big statist guys like RFK Junior.
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You know, setting aside his history where his history where
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he was like a gun grabber and all that he he claims he's
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changed. He's had a change of heart.
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I'll I'll grant him maybe he has.
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The issue is that he still doesn't understand economics at
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all. He is still, he is still
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proposing that he's going to, you know, be giving basically
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guaranteed or subsidized loans at the 3% rate for for mortgages
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to once again re inflate the already insanely over inflated
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real estate market. For those that don't know me, my
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background is in real estate. I ran a mortgage company for
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over a decade. I understand this intimately.
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He is absolutely wrong and he will create the biggest bubble
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ever in real estate if he is to become the president.
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Because he doesn't fucking get it.
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He doesn't get it. He doesn't understand economics.
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Donald Trump is also the biggest spending president we've ever
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had. Yes, yes, it happened during
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2020, whatever. But it was still $7 trillion in
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2020. That is suicidal.
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That is not someone that is at all interested in getting the
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national debt under control that like he just doesn't get it.
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I I don't know why. I don't know how it because he
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comes from a kind of a similar background as me being in real
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estate developing and and you know borrowing money and things
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like that and like I I was on the flip side of it.
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But still you have to understand that like the the country still
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like the rules still apply. Like you cannot borrow
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indefinitely and expect to survive and and that's where
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we're at and it's and it has been contributed to in a massive
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way by Donald Trump and his presidency and not even just
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2020. It's not like he had a budget
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surplus in up through 20/19. He was a big spender the entire
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time he had the he had the power to veto these things.
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He didn't in fact he went the opposite direction and he he
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threatened to or he he challenged and and encouraged
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people to run against Thomas Massie the greatest congressman
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since Ron Paul. And it ain't close.
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He wanted him out because Thomas Massey wanted to vote on the
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largest spending bill in human history.
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I'm sorry, but that is a disqualifying maneuver.
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That is, that is totally against anything that I would value in a
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political figure. So there's there's the the good
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and the bad of both. I just wanted to be even handed
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so people understand I don't suffer from Trump Derangement
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Syndrome. I realized that the FBI tried to
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coup him. I realized that they spied on
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his campaign. I realized that everything that
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they've blamed or accused him of, the the Clintons and the
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Bidens have all been guilty of it themselves.
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It's pure projection. It's pure nonsense.
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The judicial system is absolutely being weaponized to
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try and remove him. I like all of that.
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That's all great. But it doesn't change the fact
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that at the end of the day, he wasn't good.
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He wasn't good enough to be the president of the United States.
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He didn't fix anything. He just showed you the problems.
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We need someone that can actually get there and then fix
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it. If and we know we're going right
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through this cycle again can it be fixed is there, is there AI
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was trying to think about this earlier.
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I think you know Bitcoin is in the Fed technology but I think
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if you go far enough down the road with what sound money does
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to nation States and you know the the sovereign individual
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thesis it could be a nation state ending technology.
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And the only way we solve any of these issues and it it's it's
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been proven and not not based on a 50 year theory and they called
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it modern just to make it sound cool.
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But you know foundational economics is kind of, you know
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right here for us how do we, how do we take sound money.
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Because I feel like now we're almost at a part where we have
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this coalition of an in the Fed that could be unstoppable if you
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had RFK collab with the Trump and then you also have that
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other vivex in the house. What are we looking at?
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There is is a a coalition on just right here on the forefront
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that could be a just massive swing here and it may be this
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convention will be what fuels it and maybe yeah.
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Yeah. No, I mean it's a, it's an
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interesting question and I think that, you know, the coalition of
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the like, the coalition I want to be involved in is an actual
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America First coalition, like an actual one.
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And unfortunately, Donald Trump has proven time and time again
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that ain't what he's about. You know, Vivek also sounds at
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times as if he's, you know totally about it.
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But then he also talks about, you know, sending in hit squads,
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the top of the cartels in Mexico and and still funding Taiwan in
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their defense against China. That ain't America first either.
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Sorry, so I am an actual non interventionist.
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That's Ron Paul one O 1 that's libertarianism.
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One O 1 non intervention. And let me let me remind you
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this is not just a libertarian perspective.
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This is the perspective of the founding fathers of America.
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They their perspective is what made this the greatest country
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in the world in the world history and I want to re embrace
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those those principles. Now the question as to whether
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or not a coalition of an RFK junior and a Vivek and a Donald
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Trump can can bring that to pass, I don't really think so
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because I don't think they actually mean it when they say
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it. If they did, I wouldn't be
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running. I'd be supporting them, just
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being honest. And to your your broader
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question as to whether or not we can actually, you know, see
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these ideas win, I don't think we can see them win in the near
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term because people are still not really Privy to what we're
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talking about right now, at least not on a a level that
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they'll actually say, OK, I'm going to vote for libertarians.
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Yes, I know I'm throwing my boat away, blah blah, blah.
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But the truth is, like, I'm throwing my vote away either way
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because our economic system is in meltdown mode and we're on
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the precipice of World War Three.
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And it doesn't seem to matter who's the president, if it's if
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it's Joe Biden or if it's Donald Trump or if it's RFK for that
21:54
matter. I'm not sure that any of them
21:56
actually understand the danger that we're in financially,
21:59
militarily, geopolitically, economically, all across the
22:03
board. They, I don't think that they
22:04
really get it. You need someone who gets it so
22:07
well. It's up to the to the American
22:08
people at this point. I'm not really hopeful.
22:11
I don't think that there's enough Americans that actually
22:13
understand how dangerous, you know, the circumstances are.
22:16
But they're going to find out. And let's just hope they find
22:19
out. Not too late.
22:21
Yeah, I was just when you were going, Clinton was just thinking
22:23
like what was so fucking unclear about no entangling alliances,
22:28
you know, and then look at how this has played out and only
22:31
took, you know, the 2nd President to absolutely
22:36
eradicate the 1st Amendment with the Sedition Acts.
22:38
And here we are again. We are in Trudeau's Gulag today.
22:44
And I think we know there were some laws passed that are
22:47
severely attacking the 1st Amendment here.
22:49
But we also see that in the US, the 1st Amendment, the 4th
22:52
Amendment. I remember Gary Johnson, he was
22:54
running on Restore the 4th Amendment.
22:56
I think Bitcoin in and of itself is a restoration of the 4th
23:00
Amendment. So by opting into that, you have
23:03
that. But we also have to fight this
23:05
regime, which just got kicked in the teeth today.
23:08
Clint, I don't know if you saw the vote, but the Senate struck
23:12
down the move by the Biden administration, saying that
23:15
financial institutions would not be able to custody Bitcoin and
23:20
it ended up being like a 60 to 38 vote.
23:24
And so now Biden can't implement the veto or he would suffer such
23:28
a political loss that he couldn't.
23:31
Is Is Bitcoin the Trojan Horse for Freedom in America?
23:38
It's certainly possible. I think on an individual level
23:41
the answer is probably yes. The the issue is that it is not
23:44
the Trojan horse. Like it's not the silver bullet
23:47
for everything. I know a lot of people say, you
23:49
know, Bitcoin fixes this, fixes fix the money, fix the world.
23:53
Like, yeah, look, if you can fix the money, you can fix the
23:56
world. I'll grant you that.
23:57
But the issue is that, like most people have not adopted Bitcoin
24:01
and it's not like it's not like just most.
24:04
It's like almost nobody. So we're talking about, you
24:07
know, a couple percent of the population that might actually
24:10
be able to to weather the economic storm that comes, but
24:15
you're not going to get away from the pain entirely.
24:17
So I, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm very pro Bitcoin.
24:21
I, I, I talk about it pretty constantly, but it's it's simply
24:25
not enough. Like the system itself is still,
24:29
it still has a monopoly on violence.
24:30
They can still come for us, they can still create depressions.
24:34
They can still launch nuclear weapons.
24:36
There's a lot that they're capable of that that Bitcoin
24:39
does not fix. So we need to do more than just
24:42
start to, you know, adopt Bitcoin. 100% And I'm I'm
24:47
thinking about, you know, the sound money and we can look back
24:50
on. Of course it will.
24:52
It doesn't end war. It just makes it actually cost
24:55
something, right? And there's an actual cost or
24:58
consequence to an action, rather than having this magic money
25:05
printer ability now a lot of. People, to to clarify one thing,
25:09
If if you actually replace the US dollar with Bitcoin and it
25:14
became like the the hard money, this is, this is what we're
25:17
using, this is the federal government now has to live
25:19
within its means. Yeah.
25:20
That would actually prevent wars because then they wouldn't be
25:23
able to do what they do, which is borrow and print into
25:26
oblivion, manipulate interest rates and you know, steal from
25:30
us to the tune of trillions of dollars so that they can fund
25:32
all of these wars endlessly. But that's that's not really the
25:36
issue because Bitcoin isn't going to be adopted by the
25:39
United States government. They, they already have the, the
25:42
reserve currency of the world. They're in such an advantageous
25:45
position, or at least they have been, but they're not going to
25:48
give that up and and give up on the ability to print money.
25:52
Like if you and I had that power, we probably wouldn't give
25:55
it up either. So I don't, I don't envision
25:58
them doing that. And that's the reason I say that
25:59
Bitcoin doesn't fix the empire. It doesn't fix the military
26:03
industrial complex because well, you and I may adopt it.
26:08
That doesn't. That doesn't mean that they are
26:10
and they're not going to, at least not until the end stage.
26:14
So I think that's the primary reason that I say it's not
26:17
enough. There's there's a lot of people
26:20
too. Maybe they don't understand the
26:22
non intervention principle or they're like oh, that's just
26:25
putting your head in the sand. We're we're just going to get,
26:28
you know, Bombay, everybody. But they don't understand the
26:30
consequences of a flawed foreign policy that led to all of the
26:35
disasters, the current geopolitical calamity, just
26:38
insanity going in. And also, you know, people need
26:42
to figure out not when you hate or dislike the actions of
26:47
someone's government, that does not mean those people, OK?
26:51
And we have that happening on a massive level, I think.
26:55
People are not hearing each other or we got people bogarding
26:58
other people's movements, which has happened many times in the
27:01
past, whether with Occupy and others where other movements
27:05
tend to leak themselves into it and may cast a different light.
27:08
What are what are your thoughts on the 1st Amendment freedoms
27:11
and this discourse going on with the Middle East in America?
27:17
I'm super disturbed by it. I mean there are hate speech
27:20
laws that are being pushed in many states.
27:23
You just had Congress pass that bill.
27:26
That was I think it made it so that like they they included
27:29
anti-Semitism into the kind of like the Civil Rights Act when
27:32
it comes to title Nine or something like that.
27:34
It was very, it was very complex to a certain extent.
27:37
It was just virtue signaling allegiance to, you know.
27:40
Israel. Now why?
27:42
Why is it And sorry, you know, people see that.
27:45
You know, some people see that and that they think, oh, that is
27:48
a good 'cause I want to get behind that, But they don't know
27:52
that. You know, like the Patriot Act
27:53
is not. Relinquishing your 4th Amendment
27:56
isn't patriotic. Relinquishing words of the
27:59
English language is not patriotic.
28:02
So can no can you build on that that that's.
28:05
Of course. Yeah man.
28:07
I mean, we all just lived through the censorship regime of
28:11
2020 and 2021 and obviously it hasn't stopped, but it just
28:13
became very obvious during that two year period.
28:16
Did you enjoy that? Anybody.
28:19
Did anybody enjoy that? OK, if you agree with me that
28:22
that was completely insane and immoral and unamerican, well
28:26
then you should also agree with me that you do not want there to
28:28
be laws that protect particular groups of people versus
28:32
everybody else. Like, that is actually what
28:35
foments additional racism and hatred.
28:38
It also feeds into the conspiracy theories about there
28:40
being a group of people that you can't talk about like you don't
28:44
want to go down this path. I assure you, free speech is
28:47
paramount to any of your additional concerns about the
28:50
deleterious consequences of of us being able to think and speak
28:53
freely. And I say all of this with
28:55
tremendous love for Jewish people.
28:57
This is, this is there's not a tinge of anti-Semitism.
29:00
When I'm defending free speech and saying that there should not
29:03
be hate speech laws against anti-Semitism.
29:05
It's not because I want to do it.
29:07
It's because I understand that the principle is more important.
29:10
It is. That's always the case.
29:12
Principles are always more important than your particular
29:15
concerns in the moment. It's just the same reason that
29:17
you don't you know, ban guns. Well, it's it's a time of peace.
29:21
We don't need to have all of these guns and and you know,
29:23
around it's like, yeah, well, you're going to need them
29:24
eventually, dude. Like you're going to need to be
29:27
able to speak freely eventually. And we learned in 2020 we don't
29:30
have the free speech rights that we thought we did.
29:33
And that's that's really, really disturbing and the fact that
29:38
there is now a proxy war that we are being forced to fund both
29:42
sides, the munitions and the artillery on one side and the
29:46
aid on the other. And we're not allowed to talk
29:48
about it like I reject that entirely.
29:51
So I think that that free speech matters way more.
29:56
So I think, Clint, you would agree that we shouldn't take
29:59
money from poor people in the United States and give them to
30:02
sketchy regimes overseas. Is that that probably?
30:06
Yeah and and for the record, not even non sketchy regimes like
30:11
high functioning regimes. I don't care.
30:13
You don't get to take my money and give it to other people.
30:16
If I want to do it, I'll do it. OK, so that is that is the
30:20
actual America first principle and let me also address the
30:23
concerns about non intervention being put your head in the sand.
30:26
That's not what it is. It is just a belief that we do
30:29
not have a right to dictate how everybody all over the planet
30:32
lives now. If they want to hurt us, we have
30:35
every right to defend ourselves. I'm not a pacifist.
30:38
I believe in self-defense. I believe in the Second
30:39
Amendment. I believe in in defending our
30:42
country. I do not believe that we have
30:44
the right to dictate what everybody else does all over the
30:47
planet. It is and it will bankrupt us.
30:51
So you have to get real about this stuff.
30:53
This is I had a lengthy sit down with Peter Boghossian and we
30:56
talked about this at like really, really deep and like
31:00
people don't understand that this is going to come to an end.
31:03
Regardless, our ability to police the world will stop in
31:06
your lifetime. It's up to you.
31:08
If you want to see it stop because we lose a World War or
31:12
we lose humanity and nuclear Hellfire.
31:14
Or does it stop because we realized that it has to, that
31:18
financially we can't continue to do this, That our culture is
31:21
decaying because of it? Like that's the choice that you
31:23
have. It's not a great choice.
31:25
It's a choice I wish you didn't have to make, but you do.
31:28
So you have to be an adult about it and decide, do you want to
31:31
see it come to pass in a World War Three, or do you want to
31:36
just decide we're not going to police the world anymore?
31:40
It's up to you. And I was thinking, Clint, how
31:43
did we go from, was it Voltaire? Even though I disagree with you,
31:49
I'd fight to the death for your right to speak it.
31:52
And then now we have this today. Cancel him.
31:55
He made fun of my blue shoes or whatever it is.
31:58
And then we also have, oh just this complete cancel culture and
32:05
everyone is a victim and not just that, well now we're 60%
32:10
like if you factor in taxes, inflation and everything else,
32:13
60% of your income goes to granddaddy's state whether you
32:17
like it or not. And no one seems to bad an eye.
32:20
What is going on? How did how did this happen?
32:23
And again, I think what you you've been hitting on and what
32:26
we've been hitting on is it's not just the money we have to
32:29
win the culture, the hearts, minds, spirits of the populace
32:33
and that that is so crucial we got to get based again.
32:36
Clint Yeah, we do. And and you know the the best
32:40
way we do that is we stop being such fucking cowards and we
32:43
actually tell the truth. And you don't have to like feel
32:46
bad about being honest if you actually have the right ideas.
32:50
I don't have any problem telling the truth because I'm confident
32:53
because I have just tested my ideas in the fire over and over
32:58
and over again and I will engage with anybody that wants to
33:01
anytime basically my schedule allowing.
33:05
Because I believe that libertarianism is right.
33:07
The property rights are paramount that you know
33:10
God-given or natural rights however you want to phrase it or
33:13
or the foundational principles by which you establish the
33:16
greatest countries in the world, civilizations, cultures.
33:20
If you want to take it down from a non status level, like that's
33:23
that's what I want to get back to.
33:24
I believe strongly that those ideas are the best humanity has
33:27
ever had and we are giving up on them.
33:30
Now to your question as to why, I think a lot of it has to do
33:33
with public schooling that we are indoctrinated from basically
33:37
from birth, I mean from four years old or whatever it is to
33:40
believe a bunch of nonsense and that's unfortunate but just like
33:46
this is actually a really good analogy to the Bitcoin issue.
33:48
Like, does bit, does adopting Bitcoin Get Me Out of the Fiat
33:52
system and and help protect me and my loved ones from the, you
33:57
know, debauchery all around us? Yeah, it helps me.
34:00
Well, the same thing with public school.
34:01
It's like, well, does getting your kids out of public school
34:04
help you and homeschooling them? Does it does it help them?
34:06
Of course, yes. But is it enough?
34:09
And I think that the answer is, is it's not really enough that
34:13
we do need to be doing more. And I wish it weren't like, just
34:17
to be very clear, I wish it was as simple as homeschool your
34:21
kids, you know, become a Bitcoin maxi and then you're good.
34:25
It's over. It's like, no, it's not over.
34:28
You can have a ton of Bitcoin and you can still have the
34:30
government come, you know, blow your door down or drop a, you
34:33
know, have some flying robot drop a a bomb on your head.
34:37
It's like we have to do more. And I think that that the way
34:40
we, we fix this culture is by doing all of it.
34:43
It's like it's not just homeschooling.
34:46
It's not just Bitcoin. It's not just homesteading.
34:48
It's not just getting married and having kids.
34:50
It's not just finding God. It's not just finding Satoshi.
34:52
It's not just, you know, listening to Ron Paul and
34:55
Rothbard and Dave Smith and whoever else.
34:57
Like you have to do a lot. And I think that's more than
35:01
anything like the the diminishment of personal
35:03
responsibility when it comes to young.
35:05
I mean, I'd say young people, but really young men, like young
35:09
men need to hear these lessons of like hard work and and living
35:14
an honest, principled lifestyle. That is how we prevail.
35:18
That is how we get through these hard times turning into soft
35:21
men. We actually need to go, I mean,
35:24
or soft time soft men turning into hard times.
35:26
I don't even know why I always use that metaphor because it's
35:28
so hard to remember which one it goes in.
35:31
But we're in the hard Times Now, and I think that the men are
35:33
eventually going to have to get hard.
35:34
And every time I say that, it also sounds gay, which I don't
35:36
have a problem. Hey, get hard or die trying, I
35:40
guess, But man, this is incredible.
35:45
Clint. We're getting close to time
35:47
here. I want to make sure I respect
35:48
your time. We're coming up.
35:51
We. I was just thinking about this
35:54
with the convention. Hypothetically.
35:59
Fantasy football, Liberty lineup for the ultimate Cabinet of the
36:06
presidency. What do you got?
36:09
Secretary of State? Vice president.
36:12
Let's see it. What do we got?
36:14
I mean, I I wouldn't even be able to list all the cabinet
36:17
positions. So I'll just give you a handful.
36:19
But certainly Scott Horton gets Secretary of Defense Tom Woods.
36:26
I would probably put, I don't know, Department of Education or
36:29
or Fed chair. Oh dude, yes, you know, Ron Paul
36:33
obviously is a great selection for Fed chair Dave Smith.
36:37
For whatever, You know, dude, he can do anything.
36:41
Dave's got to be. Dave's got to be press
36:43
secretary. That'd be fucking hilarious.
36:45
Like, honestly, honestly, like, yeah, I think he would just
36:48
absolutely crush that. But I feel like because he would
36:51
be working under me, I feel would I would feel weird about
36:54
that because like, I look up to the guy so much.
36:56
But yeah, he would, he would, he would eviscerate the media.
36:59
It would be awesome. I mean the list goes on and on
37:03
man. It would be it would be
37:04
thrilling for sure Mike or instead of Dave we'll put
37:07
Michael Malice press secretary. He said he only he only needs he
37:10
only needs one Bitcoin per month to do it.
37:13
So that's totally reasonable you know 60 grand or whatever.
37:20
But I mean the the the truth is about the libertarian cabinet is
37:22
that you would you would probably work for a month and
37:25
then these we would abolish all of these cabinets.
37:27
So it would be it'd be very it'd be like a a brief siesta.
37:32
I think that's that's a pretty solid start right there.
37:35
I I'm thinking here Clint is heard someone talk on this the
37:41
other day because you know the 51% and everyone but my
37:43
democracy, my democracy. Is democracy a scam and does it
37:48
always lead to fascism? Well, yeah, democracy is a scam.
37:53
I mean, democracy is the God that failed, as Hans Hermann
37:55
Hopper famously said. Great book, by the way.
37:58
I would highly recommend anybody that hasn't read it go do so.
38:01
But yeah, democracy is the tyranny of the majority and if
38:04
you don't have, you know, rights that supersede the tyranny of
38:08
the majority, then you are going to live in hell.
38:11
So that's what made America and the Republic so special, is that
38:15
we had this, this list of things that were like, hey, we're going
38:19
to, we're going to allow democracy to kind of destroy
38:23
certain aspects of of your freedom, but we're going to keep
38:25
like these 10 things off limits. You can't touch these.
38:29
You can't vote on these, unfortunately, because we still
38:32
voted for people at all. They have, you know, used the
38:36
judicial system and creative reading of laws and and writing
38:41
of laws to circumvent even those, you know, those rights
38:44
that they are allegedly forbidden from intervening on.
38:48
So yeah, it's I'm not, I'm not a fan of democracy, if I'm being
38:52
totally honest. But that is a system to a
38:55
certain extent, in which we function a Democratic Republic
38:58
and we have to, we have to, you know, give some concern to the
39:02
demands of the majority because they ultimately can throw us all
39:04
in cages. Man Clint thanks so much for
39:08
joining us today. This has been absolute fire me
39:11
and Nico and Ofti might be making a trip to the libertarian
39:16
party invention dude. So we're we'll see if we can put
39:19
that together. Looking forward to that, But
39:21
before we go, where can everybody find you?
39:24
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39:56
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39:59
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40:02
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never ever watch. And and that's it, man.
40:07
I I really appreciate it. I I hope that that we can make a
40:10
difference. Then we need we need more people
40:12
that are willing to to take some some time of their lives to do
40:15
this. And instead of just sitting on
40:17
my couch and bitching, I decided to do it myself.
40:19
And I don't know if I'm going to regret it, but we'll see.
40:22
Man, I don't think so. And I know you've, you know,
40:26
helped spread that liberty message.
40:27
I know I've you get me fired up man and I started watching the
40:32
Liberty lockdown and and Dave and those guys after after that
40:36
Ron Paul wave and that evolution.
40:38
These are the guys in in that niche that you need to be
40:41
listening to. They're doing great work and
40:44
they are fighting the system day in and day out.
40:46
You got to appreciate it. And they're spreading the
40:49
message of Satoshi and Ron Paul. I mean that's that's a match
40:52
made in heaven, baby. Exactly.
40:54
One last thing. What?
40:55
Any closing remarks from you Clint to send the people off
40:58
with a a fistful of freedom here?
41:01
Yeah, I mean I would just say that it's it's really not enough
41:06
to just accept expect someone to fix this.
41:09
And I, you know, honestly because I'm talking to a Bitcoin
41:11
crowd, you guys probably already know that you've already
41:14
realized that like there is no, you know, night in a White Horse
41:18
that's coming for us. So I just want to encourage
41:21
people to to have the courage of their convictions that that
41:24
like, especially the Bitcoin community, that you people
41:27
really get it. So and I'm not trying to kiss
41:29
your ass. I'm just like, honestly that's
41:31
my assessment of the Bitcoin community is like, you people
41:33
really get it. So these are the people that I
41:35
want to be the leaders of the next generation.
41:37
Like, for instance, the whole reason that I got involved with
41:39
this and and ended up running is like, I saw Dave Smith on Joe
41:43
Rogan in 2016. I was a Big Joe Rogan listener.
41:46
I was, I've been a libertarian. I'm a second general
41:47
libertarian. But after the Ron Paul
41:49
Revolution ended in 12, it was like, it was like this just kind
41:53
of, it was a Danuma. I was just this void for a
41:55
while. And then I hear Dave's, you
41:58
know, beautiful voice on Joe Rogan in 2016.
42:01
And I was like, oh, we're back, dude, This is it.
42:04
Like, it's it has not perished. I thought it was gone.
42:07
It's not. And that encouraged me.
42:11
You know, obviously I I wasn't catalyzed instantly, but when
42:14
the lockdowns happened, I was like, all right, now it's my
42:16
turn. And I think that like that is
42:19
that is what we need. We need the the offspring of the
42:23
Ron Paul revolution to rise. And I I have not seen enough of
42:27
that yet. I know there's millions of you
42:29
out there. I know millions of you are now
42:31
hardcore, hardcore bitcoiners. Like we need you guys to be the
42:35
leaders. It's heard.
42:36
Heard. And I think, and I think you
42:38
will be. Yeah, it's like in two weeks you
42:40
better see a blimp flying across the US with Revolution, Love and
42:44
Satoshi's face on it. That'd be bad ass.
42:48
But a clan day? Thanks again, brother.
42:50
Can't wait to see what you do with the convention and look
42:53
forward to getting together again soon, brother.
42:55
Thank you again. If you prefer to go down with
42:57
the ship, fuck you.