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  Speaker 1: The following.
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  Speaker 1: Storyline with Nick Eatman. What's up? Welcome to Cowboys Storyline.
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  Speaker 1: I am Nick Eatman. Wednesday, January twenty ninth. It's our
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  Speaker 1: first show since our new coaching hire of Brian Schottenheimer,
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  Speaker 1: the news head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Who saw
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  Speaker 1: that one coming, Maybe Jerry, Jerry and Steven saw that
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  Speaker 1: one coming, not really not anyone else. Maybe Schottenheimer had
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  Speaker 1: a vision for it as well. But you know, by
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  Speaker 1: the time the news broke Friday night, it wasn't that
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  Speaker 1: much of a surprise at that point. And then certainly
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  Speaker 1: when the announcement came on Monday, everybody knew the deal.
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  Speaker 1: But still I think we're all kind of, uh, kind
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  Speaker 1: of wrapping our our mind around this one, and and
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  Speaker 1: and uh trying to see what's the next move and
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  Speaker 1: and and the next coordinators and and the the next
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  Speaker 1: coaches and and how this staff gets put together. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, it was it's been a it's been a
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  Speaker 1: week already and we're just still trying to figure it
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  Speaker 1: all out. But it's it's been a fun week. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: anytime that there's change, I think that there's some excitement
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  Speaker 1: that goes with that. And so I want to hear
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  Speaker 1: from you guys, and here here what you have to say.
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  Speaker 1: I think, Uh eight eight eight eight five five two
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  Speaker 1: two nine seven is the number to call Chris, who
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  Speaker 1: we got on the line, and we said, you had
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  Speaker 1: some callers who we got for Anthony and Miami. Anthony
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  Speaker 1: and Miami. All right, our stuff isn't working today, but
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  Speaker 1: that's all right. Anthony Miami, what's up?
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  Speaker 5: My god?
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  Speaker 6: Nick the Quick? How you doing man? How are you
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  Speaker 6: Nick the Quick? Your boy Anthony Miami is doing fine.
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  Speaker 6: Because whether they like it or not, it's coach Shoddy time.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm all, I'm down for it. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 6: say I saw it that it'll be lying. I didn't
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  Speaker 6: see a big name. I didn't see coach Prime. Then
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  Speaker 6: me and some people were just saying that we thought
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  Speaker 6: coach Prime would do it. If Dak hadn't got signed,
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  Speaker 6: then it might have gotten interesting for him to come
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  Speaker 6: and probably get a son. But I really thought coach
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  Speaker 6: Zimmer would get it, and coach Shottenheim or somebody like
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  Speaker 6: that would get the offensive coordinator. So I'm as positive
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  Speaker 6: as I am a supportive of course, if you were
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  Speaker 6: that star or you're all about that star, I support you.
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  Speaker 6: So Coach Shottenheim, I support you. I support your staff,
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  Speaker 6: I support our players. That's just what I do.
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  Speaker 7: Man.
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  Speaker 6: I hope you do well. Do some of the things
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  Speaker 6: you said you're gonna do. That looks like it was
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  Speaker 6: turned away or somebody was like, all right, we're not
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  Speaker 6: gonna do that. I guess that's where that bite and
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  Speaker 6: the tongue thing came in at. So it sounds great,
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  Speaker 6: and I hope he has a great successful life.
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  Speaker 8: It's all I got him.
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  Speaker 1: Let some other thanks, Anthony, appreciate the call. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the the word deference was used a couple of times
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  Speaker 1: and like you like you alluded to and uh, you
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  Speaker 1: know that there's time and that's that's a lot of coaches.
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  Speaker 1: When you think about it, and not just coaching in
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  Speaker 1: the coaching world, think about your own job and you're
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  Speaker 1: in meetings and when where there's people that that are
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  Speaker 1: above you making decisions. There's a lot of decisions that
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  Speaker 1: people don't always make and how do they handle that?
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  Speaker 1: What's the best way to to you know, combat that
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  Speaker 1: and say, all right, I don't agree, here's why, and
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  Speaker 1: or you say, in this case, you let this one
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  Speaker 1: side and and I think that that happens a lot.
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  Speaker 1: The simple fact that that your that your offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 1: who didn't call the plays uh for last year's offense
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't wasn't very consistent, wasn't very prepared, had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of issues, had injury issues too, but but had
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  Speaker 1: had had problems in a lot of areas. The fact
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  Speaker 1: that you're offensive coordinator is is now the head coach
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  Speaker 1: of the team, and your head coach is not going
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  Speaker 1: to coach this year. He's gone and doesn't didn't doesn't
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  Speaker 1: look like he's going to get another job. And so
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  Speaker 1: that right there just goes to show to me just
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  Speaker 1: how much difference of opinion that they had and how
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  Speaker 1: much that they think things can change, Because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times when something like that happens, you're like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: get rid of all that, all that on that side
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  Speaker 1: of the ball, it's not working well. The fact that
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  Speaker 1: your offensive coordinator is now your head coach makes me
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  Speaker 1: think that they believe and there's enough people in that building, players, coaches, scouts, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: front office that feel like that there was much of
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  Speaker 1: a difference of opinion that they can they can keep
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  Speaker 1: continuity at the same time and also some change that's
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  Speaker 1: needed to all right, let's go to Dylan Northport, Florida, FA.
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  Speaker 9: Minute, man, I hope you're doing well.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, how are you good?
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  Speaker 9: Talk about the Schottenheimer stuff. Obviously, I'm kind of in
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  Speaker 9: a weird spot mentally with this whole thing. And here's
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  Speaker 9: why I'm okay with the Shottenheimer higher. I actually think
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  Speaker 9: it might secretly kind of be a good higher. On
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  Speaker 9: the down low, he said all the right things.
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  Speaker 4: That's presser.
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  Speaker 9: He wants to run the ball more, mirror the ground
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  Speaker 9: in the passing game. All that sounds great, so let's
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  Speaker 9: go do it. But here's where it's weird for me mentally,
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  Speaker 9: Like if I'm okay with the shot in Heimer higher,
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  Speaker 9: but I'm mad at the process. I feel like those
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  Speaker 9: are contradictory thoughts and this Brian's the right higher, right,
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  Speaker 9: and that's who we got, And why am I upset
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  Speaker 9: about the process in which we got them. I feel
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  Speaker 9: like us, as fanned myself included, our thoughts and opinions change,
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  Speaker 9: like with the wind right, It's like one day we
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  Speaker 9: think this the next day, we think that, and I
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  Speaker 9: think that we sometimes overvalue maybe our feelings, our thoughts
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  Speaker 9: on and the influence we have over Jerry and his
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  Speaker 9: decision making. And I don't want Jerry the GM Jerry
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  Speaker 9: making decisions based on what we want as fans because
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  Speaker 9: we don't really know what's going on at the end
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  Speaker 9: of the day. We don't know the ins and outs.
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  Speaker 9: And I think that everybody that's upset about it, they're
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  Speaker 9: kind of coming around to it now as far as
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  Speaker 9: Schottenheimer being the coach, whereas just the day ago, it's
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  Speaker 9: like everybody was up in arms the day before the
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  Speaker 9: pressor the mob was out in full force. And so
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  Speaker 9: I think that sometimes us as fans and myself include,
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  Speaker 9: we've got to take a step back right and look
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  Speaker 9: at the holistic picture. And it's like, I think this
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  Speaker 9: guy is going to be okay. And I think that's
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  Speaker 9: the feeling everybody has on Twitter right now.
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  Speaker 7: This Guy's going to be okay.
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  Speaker 9: So, like, what are we really upset about as far
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  Speaker 9: as how the process went and interviewing him and the
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  Speaker 9: other candidates?
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  Speaker 1: Are you asking me or I mean I don't know, Like,
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  Speaker 1: like I get what you're saying like I get that,
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, well, you know what, I think we're
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  Speaker 1: going to come around on it. And not to be
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  Speaker 1: a smart ass about it, but I look at it like, well,
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  Speaker 1: what if you weren't, you know, like like what if?
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  Speaker 1: What if? And there are some fans that aren't excited
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  Speaker 1: about it, and and they're not going to come around
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  Speaker 1: on this. What what does that mean? I mean like, like,
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  Speaker 1: we've been through worse than this. I say it all
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  Speaker 1: the time. If you're a Cowboy fan, and you're one
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  Speaker 1: of those to say, I've been a fan forever and
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  Speaker 1: all this, You've seen worse than this. You've seen worse teams,
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  Speaker 1: worse situations, and even though you think that you haven't,
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  Speaker 1: you have. And so I I'm one of those. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to sit here and say like, oh yeah, guys,
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  Speaker 1: get on board one hundred percent because you know, this
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  Speaker 1: is why he's going to be great. I I he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't my pick. I didn't even think he was going
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  Speaker 1: to be interviewed. So I'm not going to sit here
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  Speaker 1: now and tell you this is why he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be great. What I am going to tell you is
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  Speaker 1: is that if we have to give him a chance
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  Speaker 1: because he's the coach and he if he didn't impress
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  Speaker 1: you with what you saw, then you're probably just not
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  Speaker 1: going to be impressed. He was impressed.
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  Speaker 9: Well, he's a big risk, according to Jerry.
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  Speaker 1: I don't agree with that, and I don't and I
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  Speaker 1: don't agree with that. I don't see.
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  Speaker 9: That was the most awkward part of the whole interview.
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  Speaker 7: Man.
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  Speaker 9: That made me feel so uncomfortable, he said, like twenty
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  Speaker 9: seven times sitting there next to them. It was weird,
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  Speaker 9: just making an observation based on people that were pissed
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  Speaker 9: off on Twitter and some of the chaplain and but
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  Speaker 9: people have started accepting him as the head coach. And
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  Speaker 9: I think it's a cyclical, man. We see it's a
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  Speaker 9: roller course. You talk about it's like, okay, come April,
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  Speaker 9: you know, threecorders of the fan base, eighty percent of fam,
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  Speaker 9: but we're gonna be ready to go. Man, this is
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  Speaker 9: what it is. We do it every single year. We
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  Speaker 9: get pissed off and then we're back on the wagon.
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  Speaker 9: So it just kind of is what it is at
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  Speaker 9: this point. That's what it is being a Cowboys fan.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Always Yeah, and Dylan, I appreciate it. Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: the call.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing about it is too is like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna. He's gonna probably continue to to gain some
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  Speaker 1: some fans, some excitement, some traction there up until the
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  Speaker 1: first time it doesn't go well in a game. You
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  Speaker 1: know you're gonna he's gonna be undefeated from now all
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  Speaker 1: the way. Even the preseason games probably won't matter as much.
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  Speaker 1: The press conferences should be should be fine. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't know if he's going
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  Speaker 1: to be. It doesn't seem like a like a real jokester,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But he's also gonna. He's not a robot either.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna. He's he's he's a genuine person.
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  Speaker 1: I think all that's nice and good until you know,
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  Speaker 1: until the first time you lose a game and a
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  Speaker 1: coaching decision is questioned, and then you know, and then
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  Speaker 1: that then all bets are off at that point, and
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  Speaker 1: that's that's the nature of the business. We we get that.
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  Speaker 1: But but I think that he gained some some some fans.
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  Speaker 1: I think that, you know, he was impressive. I said
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  Speaker 1: it a couple of times. I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if it's if you can win a press conference. He
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  Speaker 1: did that. That's not the kind of wins though that
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  Speaker 1: that he's going to be judged by for sure. But
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  Speaker 1: I thought, I thought he did a nice job. And
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  Speaker 1: and and the fact the players were there, Dac and
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  Speaker 1: some of the other players were there for his support.
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  Speaker 1: He shows you know that that he he should have
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  Speaker 1: the locker room. But it's one thing for guys to say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're support you, We're so glad you're the coach. But
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, can he get on their ass
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  Speaker 1: when it's time to do that? And that's that's the
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  Speaker 1: That's one of the toughest things that a coach can do,
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  Speaker 1: is say, hey, yeah, I got you, you're my guy,
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  Speaker 1: but but you're not doing this right and you need
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  Speaker 1: to you need to, you know, you need to be
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more, a little less comfortable than you
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  Speaker 1: are with me as your coach. And so I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a balance that any coach has to have. And
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  Speaker 1: and we'll see, you know, assistant coaches are talking to
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  Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton about this yesterday. Assistant coaches are like the uncles.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's all nice and good until you you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you're the head coach. Now you're making the decisions. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and all the decisions, and some of them the kids
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  Speaker 1: just aren't going to like. So we'll see how that
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  Speaker 1: plays in. Let's go to the next caller, Carolina in Longview, Texas. Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: What's up.
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  Speaker 8: There?
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  Speaker 1: You go?
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  Speaker 11: What's going? Oh my god?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 12: Man?
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  Speaker 11: I'm living, man, I'm happy I finally got in.
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  Speaker 7: Man.
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  Speaker 11: I don't know, man, it's been obvious little but see,
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  Speaker 11: like lyon is just ringing and ringing and ringing. Hard
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  Speaker 11: to get in these days.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's been ringing a lot, you know, when we
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  Speaker 1: don't have a show every only do one show week.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they even answer it. So, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: happened beyond today, and I want to hear from you guys.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you got?
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  Speaker 11: I got a couple of things. Man. I'm kind of
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  Speaker 11: like Dylan. I support it. You know, once again, it's
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  Speaker 11: our teams. I mean, what can we really do is
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  Speaker 11: either with it or not with it? Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 11: Jerry said the pressor we're all in on them, We're
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  Speaker 11: all in on shoddy. So my main question is do
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  Speaker 11: you truly believe like that there's going to be a
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  Speaker 11: major difference, not just okay, there's a little bit of
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  Speaker 11: difference between the play calling and you know, the offense
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  Speaker 11: or how it was last year, Like do you truly
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  Speaker 11: believe that we're going to see a different brand of football?
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  Speaker 11: And my other question is, you know, and the pressure
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  Speaker 11: they were talking to what's his name, not Jerry's, is
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  Speaker 11: his son or nephew the other guy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with what you're saying.
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  Speaker 11: I'm sorry when they asked a question about free agency
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  Speaker 11: and not Jerry but the other guy to answered Stephen Steven.
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  Speaker 11: Here we go, okay, and he said, okay, yeah, we
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  Speaker 11: we noticed, we made, you know, some mistakes and that
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  Speaker 11: there's going to be changes and we're gonna put more
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  Speaker 11: into it. Like I'm just like, is that really is
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  Speaker 11: that really just you know, well from the press, or
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  Speaker 11: that's not really meaning.
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  Speaker 1: That's not exactly what he said. He didn't just come
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  Speaker 1: out and say we're gonna do things different. He said
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  Speaker 1: they were they would, you know, they might do some
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  Speaker 1: things differently in free agents something to look at. I
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  Speaker 1: think that you know that he's always gonna say might, maybe,
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  Speaker 1: perhaps possibly potentially all those those things. I think this,
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  Speaker 1: I think they're going to be more active in free
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  Speaker 1: ag See. I think they have to be because they
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  Speaker 1: just have so many free agents, so they're gonna sign
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  Speaker 1: a lot of guys. And I would think that they
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  Speaker 1: sign more guys from other teams than their own. So
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  Speaker 1: does that mean that they're going to be a lot
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  Speaker 1: more active in free agency? Maybe? Does that mean they're
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  Speaker 1: going to be aggressive? Probably not, But I wouldn't mind
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  Speaker 1: seeing one or two moves, one or two splashes, And
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  Speaker 1: I think I think, I think that could happen this year,
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  Speaker 1: just a few things different than what you've seen before,
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  Speaker 1: especially early on in the first couple of days. I
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  Speaker 1: think they'll be a little bit more active than they've
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  Speaker 1: been in the past.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, because I just like, you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 11: not too aggressive. I fact, there has to be an effort, yeah,
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  Speaker 11: like not just getting the long snapper and a linebacker.
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  Speaker 11: There needs to be a collective amount of moves that,
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  Speaker 11: like I said, field spots to prepare us for this
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  Speaker 11: draft business, Like we're going to be losing all these players.
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  Speaker 11: We need to go ahead and sew up most of
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  Speaker 11: these spots so we can get the VPA.
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  Speaker 5: You.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's a very very good point, Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: a very good point, and what thanks for you? Anything else?
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  Speaker 7: Is that it.
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  Speaker 11: No man, nothing, So I'll be calling in and I
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  Speaker 11: appreciate your answering for me.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 11: I hope you have a wonderful day and love to
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  Speaker 11: all my storyliness all right.
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  Speaker 1: Man, appreciate it. Be safe on the roads out there
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  Speaker 1: driving in Texas. Here, Longview, Texas are going on the
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  Speaker 1: east East Texas there. What he said too, if if
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  Speaker 1: anyone that maybe didn't hear that or didn't catch what
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  Speaker 1: he's saying is is fill up these spots, these holes
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  Speaker 1: that they have so you can take BP a best
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  Speaker 1: player available, and and that's that's going to be a challenge.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know. With the free agency the way
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  Speaker 1: it is at key spots, I have a hard time
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  Speaker 1: thinking there's not going to be some glaring needs going
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  Speaker 1: into the draft. Fortunately and unfortunately, at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many needs that you still could probably take
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  Speaker 1: best player of it aailable and it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a spot that you need. I mean, that's that's I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that's actually a good thing. But in this case,
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  Speaker 1: I don't see the quarterback being the best player available.
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  Speaker 1: I think the quarterbacks will probably get drafted earlier than
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  Speaker 1: that the ones that are going to go off the
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  Speaker 1: board are going to go off the board. And so
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  Speaker 1: after that edge rusher could be a corner, could be
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver, running back, you know, defensive tackle, there's a linebacker,
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  Speaker 1: all those all those things are positions of need. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this does seem like a tight end from Penn State
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  Speaker 1: that is going to be in that range there, maybe
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  Speaker 1: even higher than twelve. That would be a need that
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  Speaker 1: that would be a nice to have. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: you necessarily need to get better than than Ferguson and
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  Speaker 1: scoon Maker. That's solid. You know the tweaks that that
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  Speaker 1: Carolina was talking about that Schottenneimer was talking abo about
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  Speaker 1: how much you know, this question was, can can they
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  Speaker 1: make a big difference? Uh in one year? Different brand
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  Speaker 1: of football? If you're running the football, if you if
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  Speaker 1: you make a few tweaks here and there so you
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: could run the ball better, then I think your tight
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: ends will come into play a lot more than they
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: have in the past. And so I think I still
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: think tight ends are a product of what you have
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: around you. Even you know now now there's a there's
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: a handful in the league that are that are difference makers.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: They're probably more just big wide receivers, and they know
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: how to get open, they know how to get mismatches
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and things like that. But for the most part, I
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: would think your your tight ends are product of of
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: what you're doing on the outside. I think Buffalo is
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: a good example of that. They got a couple of
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: tight ends. They're not the featured guys, but they can
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: make plays for you. Philadelphia is probably like that too.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Godd Or is you know, he's he's he can get
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: open and make make plays and so. And I don't
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: think they need to make it upgrade there. My point
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: is that I think that what they have, they're going
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: to have a lot of needs, and I think that
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: whoever's there at twelve for them is, you know, the
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: best player they've got on their board is probably somebody
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: that can come right in and help and fill a
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: need that they have, even if they do some more
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: things in free agency. All right, let's go to Casey Joe.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: He's in Kansas City.
• 17:20
  Speaker 10: Good morning, Nick, How are you doing today?
• 17:22
  Speaker 11: Good?
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: How are you doing? Bud?
• 17:23
  Speaker 10: Pretty good? Sarah? Pretty good? Hey, I was thinking about
• 17:26
  Speaker 10: the DC. Do you think they might go after Wade Phillips?
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Well, Matt Iberflus is the defensive coordinator. He oh, he
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: has been hired yesterday, And it's okay. He's been hired
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: yesterday as the defensive coordinator. There's a lot of news
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: going on here. Yesterday was a big, big news day,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: and the day before obviously was when the Schottenheimer thing
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: came out. But they did hire a special teams coach
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: and Nick Sorenson, and then they also hired Matt Eberflus.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: But no, I don't think Wade don't. I don't see
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Wade getting back into coaching anymore, especially because you know,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Wade worked out for the Cowboys because he was following
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: another coach that had a three four defense. You know,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Wade's Wade's scheme isn't for everyone. And I don't know
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: if this team is built right now to just make
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: that switch to a three four. So no, it's it's
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: gonna be Eberflus. He's the defensive coordinator and I and
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I think I think that that's a good, solid move.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I really do.
• 18:22
  Speaker 10: Okay, I didn't know that. I apologize.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: That's okay, that's all right. Hey, it's hard to keep
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: up sometimes around here. What'd you think of the move.
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: What do you think?
• 18:31
  Speaker 10: It wasn't my first choice. But since we got him,
• 18:35
  Speaker 10: let's see what he does.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 18:37
  Speaker 10: I would have went after John Gruden myself, but that
• 18:40
  Speaker 10: was my first choice. But you know, I mean, since
• 18:43
  Speaker 10: he's there, let's see how he does. I mean, that's
• 18:46
  Speaker 10: all I can say. You know, I don't know what
• 18:48
  Speaker 10: else to say.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, there they're really there, really isn't you know?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: You could say first choice, what was it your tenth
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, was it your tenth choice? No? Not mine.
• 19:03
  Speaker 10: I was a little worried because he was the offensive
• 19:05
  Speaker 10: coordinator and the offense didn't produce that well you know. Yeah,
• 19:09
  Speaker 10: but towards the back half we did. But at the beginning,
• 19:13
  Speaker 10: I mean, it didn't look so good. So I was
• 19:15
  Speaker 10: scratching my head at that. But you know, like I said,
• 19:18
  Speaker 10: he he wasn't the head coach and he just kind
• 19:20
  Speaker 10: of had to fallow orders. So yeah, you know, we
• 19:24
  Speaker 10: I got to give him a chance, you know, and
• 19:26
  Speaker 10: see what he does.
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: So yeah, you know that that aha moment is when
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: you said, you know, the back half of the season
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: they did better.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're going.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: To have people in the building here and it's start.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: It's going to surface out if it hasn't already. How
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: how the back half of the season is when Schottenheimer
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: actually got his hands on the offense a little bit more.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: That's that's that's it was his idea from what this
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: is all, from what I've heard, his idea to say,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: let's put Cavante Turpin in at running back. Let's let's
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: put him in a different spot. So let's put him,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you know, let's use him a little bit more. Let's
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: change a few things offensively, scheme wise. Up front, we
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: can run the ball better. Let's do this with Rico
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Daddle a few things here and there. So to answer
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: your question, and then the one before that Carolina had
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: about how things will look different, I think I think
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: what Schottenheimer was able to do a little bit and
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: he'll he'll use analytics more than I think McCarthy did,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and in a positive way. And and this isn't just
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: game decisions analytics. This is like, hey, this is what
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: we do on third and ten, every time on third
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and five. This is how teams are playing this. We
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: gotta we gotta be ahead of the curve. That's how
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna use analytics a little bit
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: more than they have. So again, not not our not
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: our first choice, and not not a guy we had
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: on the radar. He's here. He was on the Cowboys radar.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Kenny Kenny turned things around. That that's you know, that's
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: what we're all waiting to see.
• 20:58
  Speaker 12: Ah.
• 20:58
  Speaker 13: Here, you have a great day.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it. Yeah, Matt Eberflu's defensive coordinator, Nick Sorenson,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the special teams coordinator. And let me throw this out
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: there about Nick Sorenson real quick. He was with the
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers the last three years and he was
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. Last year he was fired as the
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. That's probably that's not his role. That's that's
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: probably not his best role. He played in the league
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: ten years. He played a lot of special teams. He's
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: been a special team's assistant with the Seahawks and he
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: was the coordinator with the Jaguars. So special teams is
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: a little bit more his forte. Let's judge him on that. Necessarily,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: not necessarily as a defensive coach. Same with Iberflus. Really
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Eberflus as a head coach. Chicago fans will tell you, oh,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: my god, get rid of this guy. Hail Mary, are
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: you kidding me? Well, okay, But as a defensive coordinator
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: when he was with Indianapolis, those defenses were really really
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: good and good with players that will fit his scheme.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I think he will be one that you'll see a
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: draft pick in the fifth round or a I would
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: say fourth round, but they don't have that pick, but
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: but they might, you know, but you'll see a middle
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: round pick of a guy that you're like, oh, didn't
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: didn't see that one coming, or the draft show guys
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: will be looking through their stuff like I don't know
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: about that about that guy. But you know, it'll be
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: a vision that that you know, like ibra Flus will
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: have for a for a player to say, hey, I
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: like him in this scheme because that's what he did
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of with the Colts. Those were a lot
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of no name players. They had some good players, but
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: he had a lot of no name players that they
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: made uh into a really good defense. I believe MALIEK.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Cooker was there and he was the first round pick,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: but I believe I believe MALIEK. Cooker was there with
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: him for at least one or two seasons when he
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: was the d C. All right, let's go to Terry's
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: in Mexico our time.
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: Terry well Good sitting out there looking at specific just
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: recently retired down here, and you.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Know, you know there was a special teams coach. We
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: had one of my favorite coaches of all time, Joe D. Kamelis.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: You know what he calls that beach TV. He said,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: we sit out there, it's called beach TV. I don't
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: have a TV. I just sit there and it's called
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: beach TV. So I love it. We're all jealous.
• 23:17
  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: It took a while to get here, but I'm finally
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: here and then join life.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Good for you.
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: One concern I'm hearing a lot is our veterans. I
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: watched Mike's YouTube show last night, and I'm not you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: he's he's all hard about the cowboys. And one of
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: the concerns is, you know, some of our veterans hoping
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: they don't get discouraged and.
• 23:42
  Speaker 14: Decide to leave.
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: I've been hearing chatter about Parsons wanting to trade, and
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: I know change is hard to take with some of
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: our veterans, but I'm willing to, you know, give the
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: guy a chance. I liked eber plus pick up as
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: a defensive coordinator coming from Chicago. That's all I heard.
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: Is bad of a coach against But I think he's
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: a better coordinator than he has a head coach. So
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: just my opinion. And I love the show. It's getting
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: harder and harder to get on now. Yeah, that's doing well.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: For you, Terry, Terry, Who's whose show? Did you watch again?
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I did not hear that part.
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: Mike Werbin, Michael er I was, yeah, I was watching
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: the YouTube so last night and I ran across his rant.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Got it?
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know my key. Oh yeah, he's all hard
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: when it comes to the Cowboys.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: All fan, all the time. Uh and I and I
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: say this respectfully towards towards one of the top ten
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: players to ever play for the Dallas Cowboys and a
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and former players. They know football, they
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: know players, they know locker rooms they do not know.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm pointing towards the Cowboys locker room. They do
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: not know that locker room. They don't. I'm sorry. Raikman
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: does not know that locker room. Emmitt Smith does it,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Michael Irvin doesn't, Nate Newton doesn't. Nate's on these shows.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: These former players, they know football x's and o's, and
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: they know what what it takes to get to that point.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: And I respect that more than anything. But when they
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: come in and they talk about culture that they don't
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: know about, and those players really don't know them, then
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I take it with a grain of salt. I'm sorry,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: unless unless you know, now Jesse Holly sits up here,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Jesse has some connections to certain players. If those guys
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: are telling him stuff, that's a different story. But when
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: you in general, former players, when they get asked about
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: culture in the locker room, they don't know what more
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: than you do, Terry. I mean that, that's that's just
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: simple fact. So I don't I don't get all worked
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: up about what a former player says. A former player
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of times is talking, so you don't forget
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: who they are, Like, oh, okay, you know, I'll never
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: forget Amani Tumor from the Giant so Money Tumor remember him,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: he made it. No one had heard from him three
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: or four years. So he just comes out and makes
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a statement says, I think Romo is better than Eli Manning,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: a quarterback that he played with. Oh my god, everyone
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: went up at arms, and I looked at it like, well,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: a money tumor is looking for a job, looking for
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: you know, or looking looking the kind of show. You know. Now,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Michael's not doing that. Michael's being Michael, and I love
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Michael Levan, there's no doubt about I'm just saying I
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: don't get worked up about what former players say because
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they know the pulse of a team,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: especially if they're not in that locker room.
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I've been a fan to seventy two and I'm
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: going to jump ship from my boys.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: So just who's who's jumping ship?
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: I said, I'm not going to jump Oh okay, my boy. Yeah,
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: I've been in there here too long, been a fan.
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: So now I'm always going to be there for him.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: For sure, for sure. And uh, you know, as I said,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: it's been worse situations than this, you'd have other reasons,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: you'd have you'd have better reasons to jump ship if
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you wanted to do that before. Now, Uh, you know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. It's your life, and it's
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: it's your you know, it's it's just who we are.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: We're Cowboy fans, and it's you know, it's what it is. Well,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Have fun.
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: I appreciate your time.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Have fun down there in Mexico.
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: All right, Oh, definitely out All right.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Chris pointed out about Michael Ivan christ You're right, Dion
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Sanders was his choice and his boy. And from what
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I've heard, I've heard mixed things about Dion's this situation
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: that what maybe that they were just two marketing guys
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: kind of talking, getting together, throwing that out there in
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the media, maybe helping Dion get a little bit more
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: in IL money at Colorado, and maybe helping Jerry kind
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: of show that this is a big job. I had
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: someone that that that said he talked to to Dion,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and Dean really wanted it, you know, I really wanted
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: this job. So I don't know, I don't know how
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: serious that it ever was. But that's not the case now. Anyways,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Davion and Illinois, Davion, what's up?
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: What it do?
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: Nick?
• 28:13
  Speaker 12: What it do?
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: How you doing?
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: I'm doing good. The news Friday night had me because
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: it took me for a loop. But yeah, I mean
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: a couple of days from it now, so I'm rousing
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: into shape, you know, back into let's get it at
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: this point.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Davion, give me something you like, something you do not
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: like about this? Move?
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Uh? Something I like? I like what he was talking.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: I do like this like, I do like cut split motion,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: I like, I like, I like, I like what over here?
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: You like Patrick Patrick's question? Yeah?
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Patrick was on pint with that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: I was so I was so happy, we said. I
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, man, thank somebody asked this question. Thank god. Yeah,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: watching the press conference and I was like, man, somebody
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: please ask me a question about it if he's gonna
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: do something different in office, because that's been my biggest thing,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: as you know, getting his office cranking. So I'm like,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: we gotta get this offense cranking if we're gonna do anything. Yeah,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: in in this league.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Yep, you know. And then what what do you what
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: do you dislike? What's something? I asked you both?
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: So let me see what I just like about it.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I just hate I hate the process, like pretty much
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: all of us probably, I mean prec combination. I just
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: hate the way it got to it. I mean, sitting
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: back thinking about over the weekend, it seemed like Seaan
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Hyman was the from runner from the whole get go.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: It just they just took that they just took their
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: time getting to him, but he was kind of the
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: front runner the whole time, so it was like, Okay, well,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: if that was the case, then I'd rather you kind
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: of talk to a couple more people. I would like
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: y'all talk at least a couple more people just for
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: the simple fact of just talking to a couple of
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: people to get more ideas of you know, more people
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: outside people thinking about what your team yvie.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: What if I told you they talked to sixteen people,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: sixteen sixteen coaches, legitimate coaching candidate, sixteen of them. Like, like,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that many, and a lot
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: of fans don't think it's that many. Jerry kind of
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: alluded to it, you know, in the press conference that
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: it was a lot more than people think. But but
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: so the taking their time process, I mean, they talked
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: to more guys than than than it was reported, shockingly
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: because this thing's been covered. So yeah, so sixteen was
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the number that I've heard. Now, does Dion count in that? Probably?
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: So I don't think we're talking about sixteen official sit
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: down interviews or or zoom interviews, but sixteen people that
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you're calling and talking to I mean, that's that's a
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: pretty that's a pretty decent amount of guys.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Investigation. Like least, I haven't sit down. But you know,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: people talk ain't bad.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Right, So the reported process it may not be what
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: you like. And I'm not saying you should be excited
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: about all that. And I'm not trying to change anybody's opinion.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I hope everyone knows that I said this the other day.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not a DJ, not spending anything, Okay, I'm just
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: saying that I think it was he. They talked to
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: more people than you think, but maybe all along it
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: was Schottenheimer. Maybe he was like, this is the guy.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Let's see if somebody can prove me, you know it
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: proved me wrong or be better than this.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: So hey, well one question before I get off. I
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: would love to get your book. I don't know how
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: i'll get that because you know I'm may work at night,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: so I love I'd love to start read that book.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: So it's the way I can do it. It'll be great.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Ill h I'll figure it out. I'll figure it out
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: with you. You're on Twitter, right, I'll get it. I'll
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: get it for you. I will, We'll figure it out.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Thanks Daveyon. I appreciate appreciate the call. Guys. I'm gonna
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: go to break real quick, and then when I come back,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: probably the call everyone's waiting for. I'll be right back
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: after this.
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  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys to Cowboys storyline. All right, welcome back to
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Cowboys storyline. I'm Nick Gatman here. Wednesday, January twenty ninth,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: got about another forty five minutes or so, so have
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: an extended show getting talking a lot about the Brian schottenheimermove.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Really then, really that's about the only thing talking some coordinators,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: some other good stuff. But let's get to Rob in Vegas. Rob,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: what's up?
• 34:06
  Speaker 14: Hey?
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: Nick?
• 34:06
  Speaker 11: How you doing good?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: How are you?
• 34:09
  Speaker 17: I'm good good? All right, So it was it was
• 34:15
  Speaker 17: a predictable hire. I think it's a terrible hire because
• 34:21
  Speaker 17: it's another happy to be here guy. You know, Jerry.
• 34:25
  Speaker 17: Jerry has a type, you know, Campo, Wade, Phillips, Mike
• 34:30
  Speaker 17: McCarty and now shout out, these are happy to be
• 34:33
  Speaker 17: here guys. And what I mean by that is they
• 34:35
  Speaker 17: were never getting head coaching jobs from anybody else, right,
• 34:38
  Speaker 17: So so now they're hired, and now they owe Jerry.
• 34:43
  Speaker 17: So now it's you know, I'm not I'm not going
• 34:47
  Speaker 17: to push back. This is you know, this guy gave
• 34:50
  Speaker 17: me my chance. And you can't change the culture from within,
• 34:55
  Speaker 17: not with a guy who, let's be honest, has been invisible.
• 34:58
  Speaker 17: I mean, nobody knew what he did. Jerry even knew
• 35:00
  Speaker 17: his first name. So to bring this guy in to
• 35:04
  Speaker 17: change the culture is ridiculous.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Let me just tell you he knew his middle name. Okay,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: So let's let's don't get into all that he didn't
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: know his name. He knew his family. Itrew his mom's name,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: he knew it. He Okay, So you and hide that,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: you and hold hold that against him, hold that against him,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: but don't say that Jerry didn't know his name. Jerry, Jerry,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Jerry knew him. Okay, go ahead, they'll keep going.
• 35:23
  Speaker 17: But but the deal is is you have to change
• 35:27
  Speaker 17: the culture. They should have went outside the organization. And
• 35:31
  Speaker 17: the sad part is as a fan is you had
• 35:33
  Speaker 17: some really good head coaches available, You had maybe the greatest,
• 35:37
  Speaker 17: and Bill Belichick who was interested, You had Rabel interested.
• 35:41
  Speaker 17: How the last minute you called Pete Carroll to ask
• 35:45
  Speaker 17: him about this guy, and Pete Carroll is like, what
• 35:48
  Speaker 17: about me? But there's no way they could bring these
• 35:52
  Speaker 17: guys in because a they won't pay them.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Pete don't know what, Pete Carroll, you didn't want him.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: You didn't want him, You did not want him. Nobody nobody, Wait, wait,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I did him.
• 36:03
  Speaker 18: I did.
• 36:04
  Speaker 17: He wasn't my first choice. It has a way better choice, let.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Me tell you, And I'm not going to go any
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: further than this, but I'm just going to tell you,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: especially with based off the news that's that's gonna come
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: out today in the next couple of days, you didn't
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: want Pete Carroll on it as the head coach because
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: his demands were things that you, the Cowboy fans, would
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: have hated. So Pete Carroll took myself out say maybe so,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: maybe so.
• 36:25
  Speaker 17: But what I'm saying is Jerry A doesn't pay, he
• 36:29
  Speaker 17: refuses to pay for a top head coach.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: And I can't. I can't explain that. I can't.
• 36:34
  Speaker 14: I just well you can.
• 36:36
  Speaker 17: You you know the reason. The reason is very simple. No,
• 36:39
  Speaker 17: if I pay you that, then I'm giving you more
• 36:43
  Speaker 17: power Jerry. You know, Jerry lost his fastball, but he
• 36:47
  Speaker 17: ain't totally out of it. He there's a big difference
• 36:51
  Speaker 17: paying a guy five million or six million to ten
• 36:54
  Speaker 17: to twelve. Jerry would have to concede some change. And
• 36:58
  Speaker 17: as a fan, that's what we were looking for. And
• 37:02
  Speaker 17: you just show us year after year with these coaching
• 37:05
  Speaker 17: hires that you just don't want to give it up.
• 37:08
  Speaker 17: You go, this is your fantasy football team. And all
• 37:13
  Speaker 17: you had to watch was that press conference to see
• 37:17
  Speaker 17: how disfunctional this team is. You had Jerry up there rambling,
• 37:23
  Speaker 17: and I get it, he's an old man. And then
• 37:26
  Speaker 17: you got Steven, who came off as such a spoiled
• 37:31
  Speaker 17: jerk to turn around and basically look at the fans
• 37:35
  Speaker 17: with that stupid finger thing. The twenty nine years that
• 37:40
  Speaker 17: you've lived through didn't really exist. And you know what,
• 37:44
  Speaker 17: He's right, it didn't exist in his life because when
• 37:47
  Speaker 17: he went to bed twenty nine years ago, he was
• 37:49
  Speaker 17: a millionaire, and when he woke up twenty nine years later,
• 37:52
  Speaker 17: he's a multi billionaire. So that it's it's just as
• 37:57
  Speaker 17: I don't see this team as big as a fan,
• 38:00
  Speaker 17: I am winning a super Bowl until Jerry's no longer
• 38:05
  Speaker 17: with us and Steven sells the team.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: That is the only way I see this succeeding.
• 38:11
  Speaker 17: Because he doesn't even recognize that the business model is broken.
• 38:16
  Speaker 17: They either one of them. We would hope that, okay,
• 38:19
  Speaker 17: maybe one day, no neither one recognizes that this business
• 38:24
  Speaker 17: model is broken.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I I don't know if I can.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not going to agree with all that.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I definitely don't think the model is broken. But but
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: the drought of the super Bowl. The super Bowl drought
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: is real. I mean everyone knows that that's a super
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Bowl drought. Uh does that mean? I think a lot
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: of times people confuse that with being a bad franchise,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: a bad football team. I don't think this is a
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: bad football team. I do think that they they've got
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: some pieces in place though, that they can get this
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: thing kind of turned around. I think it's a good
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: combination of change of culture and and continuity at the
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: same time. So I think that's that's kind of why
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: they wanted to keep the guy in house and the
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: money issues.
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: Continuity of what of a of a good football.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Team that they've had? Continuity of success?
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: What do you mean?
• 39:15
  Speaker 17: Good doesn't good? Good doesn't get you to the super Bowl?
• 39:18
  Speaker 17: They you're hind right, Good doesn't get So what are
• 39:22
  Speaker 17: we keeping continuity of good? Exactly? Jerry wants to be good.
• 39:28
  Speaker 17: It does great, all right. He doesn't want to go
• 39:31
  Speaker 17: to the next level. He's proven it with this higher
• 39:35
  Speaker 17: he doesn't. He wants to be good as long as
• 39:37
  Speaker 17: I'm in the middle seven and ten, nine and eight, whatever.
• 39:40
  Speaker 17: And if I somehow luck into a twelve and five season,
• 39:45
  Speaker 17: and because you notice, you notice not one time did
• 39:48
  Speaker 17: Jerry mention super Bowl? He said playoffs. He kept saying,
• 39:54
  Speaker 17: get to the playoffs. It used to be get to
• 39:57
  Speaker 17: the super Bowl. And that's the difference.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I I think we're all glad other than you, that
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: he doesn't do that. Nobody wants that. That's it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: Why you have to that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 17: Well, if you're not building towards that, you're wasting everybody's time.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: You just quoted your new head coach, Rob Thanks for
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: the call, appreciated. That's exactly what the head coach said exactly.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: So you guys are more aligned than you think you are,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: because that's exactly what he just said was if you're
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: not building for a championship, then what are you doing? So,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: you know what, Jerry didn't have to say it. Your
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: head coach, Brian Schottenheimer said it. Let's also let's also
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: get to another matter as well. Will McLay has signed
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: a four year extension with the Cowboys. He will remain
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: in the vice president of player Personnel. And you know
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: he does a lot of the duties that that that
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: you know, the director of scouting, even some that GM
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: would do. He's got Jerry's ear, Jerry's you know, trust
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: and I think that that's a great, great move. And
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I'll say this, you know, Will McClay, this is not
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: an accident that Will McClay signed this deal two days
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: after the head coach was signed. Okay, I'm sorry. I
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: don't know if Will McClay is here with a different
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: coach with Mike McCarthy. I don't know. There were other
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: coaches that wanted to come in, maybe make some changes.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Cowboys wanted Will McClay here. He obviously wants to be here,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: and he's going to be here for the next four years.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: That's a big deal because I talked to him last
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: year and he said that I got one year left
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: on my deal. I've made a commitment to my son
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: when he turns eighteen and finishes high school. After that,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I'll be here until after that. Who knows. So I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: think more jobs were attracted for him this year. He
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: was probably open to leaving more than he's ever been
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: and it didn't That didn't happen. The Cowboys made it
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: happen for him to stay. And I think they're giving
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: him a little bit more say in some of the
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: big decisions that were making, including this head coach, So
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: that that's a big move right there, Will McClay is staying.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: We'll have more on that here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Let's keep it going. Ronnie in New Jersey's next, Ronnie, what's.
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: Up, hey, Mick? You know what I was gonna. I
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: was actually going to ask you about Will McLay. So
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: that's that's actually really rude. I should you have given us.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Ronnie, I should have I should have let you ask me.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: You could have just broken the news for us.
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: Sorry, that was actually the best hues that you have
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: given us as fans, you know, because we know that
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: Will McClay has a lot to do with with with
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: the roster, a lot to do with being in Jerry's ear.
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: Whether he listens to him or not is one thing,
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: but at least we know he has a good eye
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: for for for talent. You know. Yeah, maybe maybe we
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: The one thing I think fans, the one thing that
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: we would love for Will McClay to have more if
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: we don't know if he does more advice or more
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: of power, is into the free agency, Like if we
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: could actually pick up a few free agents, at least
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: one or two, bring good players from other teams, uh uh,
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: and have them Yeah, you can build through the through
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: the draft, but build through the draft and also add
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: a few key pieces here and there. You're not gonna
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: get every single player. You're not gonna hit on on
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: on the draft. Look, we haven't hit on the first
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: rounders the past two three years, so we we've hit
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: on some late round uh late round players draft picks.
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: But but you're not gonna hit even on first round.
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: You're not gonna hit every first round. So that's a
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: lot to put on Will McClay also, you know, so
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: on that with the Saudi Saddenheimer, I'll be honest with you, Nick,
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: As long as it's not Kellen Moore, I'm good. I'm
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: not not not you know this is back from Kellen Moore.
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: You know whatever this and that here he might be
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: going to the Thames. That's respectful, but you I'm sorry.
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: I did not see kelln more.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Than walking out.
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: Uh you know what one thing that I saw in
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: that press conference, and you mentioned this, I enjoy seeing
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: what I saw from him in the press conference. I
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: don't think Kelen Moore they would have had that same
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about. Can you stand
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: up in front of seventy grown men and lead them
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: to a game. And that's Kenny.
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: He did that. He not in front of the whole team,
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: but he did that in front of players, in front
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: of the media, and not for nothing. It takes a
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: lot of of something for you to be that for
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: your boss, and your boss keeps on saying that this
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: is the What was it that he kept on saying,
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: Garry Jones, Jerry Jones kept on calling it the biggest
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: risk even take it. I'm like, come on, man, I
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: felt bad for Sharon Himer during that, but at the
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: same time, you're taking the risk no matter who you
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: that's a head coach, any coach that comes there is
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: taking a risk. Everybody's taking a risk at work every
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: single day. So, for instance, it just didn't just didn't
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: like when when Jerry kept on pointing that out.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: You know what, I'm saying, like, yeah, that was weird,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and I don't Yeah, I just don't think anyone really
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: views it that way, that that it is a risk,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: I don't see that whatever coach it was a risk
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: with with I forgot He's not there no more. Uh.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: McCarthy McCarthy.
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: McCarthy, I'm sorry, he's already gone, so that's it.
• 45:38
  Speaker 18: He rased out of my.
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: Party's gone. I'm sorry, but I didn't like McCarthy too much.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I think the more were you know, I think if
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: you have a first year head coach, it's somewhat of
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: a risk. But you know, I'm it's Chicago taking a
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: risk with.
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: Nick. Wasn't it a risk when when when taking mccar Yeah,
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: he won a super Bowl? Well, other head coach has
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: gone to onenother team and won a Super Bowl. I mean,
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: namely five head coaches. He's acting like, oh, experience, experience, Yeah,
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: but some of these head coaches, I'm sorry Rob was saying,
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: but some of these head coaches that won Super Bowls
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: that are as talented as they've enmed. Some coaches have
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: never even gone back to the Super Bowl and they
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: won a super Bowl. So that's the risk in himself too.
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: So I'm sorry, I don't I didn't like that risk.
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: Then I felt bad for the guy. He just kept
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: kept on pointing that out, you know what I'm saying.
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: But aside from that, I think I think this is
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: actually a good pick. I think he's actually he convinced
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: me during that press conference. So thanks Nick, thanks for
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: taking my call. I appreciate you guys, and please we
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: need at least two more two shows a week. I
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: want to keep on saying, and I still it happens.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. We talked to Derek about it.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I told him about the petition. He was like, that
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't move me at all. I have reasons for what it,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: what he's doing. Derek likes to be fair and equal
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: to everybody.
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: So yeah, defense.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Call in the draft show. They they I don't know
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: they they actually get to two shows a week. Maybe
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: you should call in there and and let the phones
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: ring off the hook.
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: Appreciate it.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think any first year coach would
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: be considered a risk in some way. The simple fact
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: of this, and I said it to when Rob called I,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: they they don't. They don't pay top dollar for coaches.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: There's no salary cap. There's no reason why. So it's
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: it's it's contradicting sometimes of the things. We've also heard
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Jerry say about how much money I would write a
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: check that you don't know the amount of check I
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: would write to guarantee if super Bowl and all that. Now,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: hiring a high profile coach doesn't guarantee a super Bowl.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: He hired the highest of profiles in a coach and
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: he didn't even get him a playoff win in Bill Parcells,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: did he change the culture? Did he change the team?
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah he did, he did. He got him to a
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: point where they were they were a better football team,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: but they didn't. It didn't lead to postseason success. But
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: so nothing to guarantee. But you know, I just I
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: the coaching part is always going to be there as
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: kind of a head scratcher. But you know, I think
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't worry about Schottenheimer's feelings about a
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: risk and all that. I don't think Jerry was trying
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: to be disrespectful to Schottenheimer. I think what he was
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: trying to say he was he was there was a
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: lot of things. He was trying to respond to media
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: criticism and and people that think, oh, he likes to
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: do things and that's really easy and comfortable, and he
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: was trying to point out that there's risk involved when
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: you're hiring a first year coach. All right, Ali in
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Florida's next, Good.
• 49:13
  Speaker 12: Morning there, How are you pretty good buddy.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: If we miss you all right, well I appreciate it,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: but I'm here. Let's go.
• 49:21
  Speaker 12: Okay, So a couple of questions. I want to shout
• 49:25
  Speaker 12: out to Patrick Nick Harrison you for having an awesome
• 49:33
  Speaker 12: question in press conference, and you did the interview. You
• 49:37
  Speaker 12: look great, and you asked a lot of good questions
• 49:40
  Speaker 12: as well. I think message Joes allow the podcast to
• 49:45
  Speaker 12: come and ask the questions versus all these journalists that
• 49:49
  Speaker 12: do softball questions. So, having said that, I want to
• 49:54
  Speaker 12: ask you a question. Do you remember I called? I said,
• 49:59
  Speaker 12: maybe you should put the little switch there for every
• 50:03
  Speaker 12: new collar that called, and you push the sound like
• 50:08
  Speaker 12: here we go, versus waiting on Chris because Chris has
• 50:11
  Speaker 12: his handful back there. So next thing, I know, a
• 50:15
  Speaker 12: couple of weeks later, everything was solved. You solved the
• 50:20
  Speaker 12: problem because you care Chris, cared for your own storyliners. Right.
• 50:27
  Speaker 12: But having said that, I'm gonna go take the balls
• 50:32
  Speaker 12: with the horn. We got twelve and five season, three
• 50:36
  Speaker 12: years in a row that everybody want to give a
• 50:39
  Speaker 12: credit to. Okay, no problem, it's hard to get the job.
• 50:42
  Speaker 12: But Jerry Jones played football, He won the championship, he
• 50:48
  Speaker 12: bought the Cowboys for so long Stephen Jones been involved.
• 50:53
  Speaker 12: So Dak Prescott and Mike McCarthy, you lose the twelve
• 50:57
  Speaker 12: and five seasons, what do you do? You go there says, look,
• 51:01
  Speaker 12: let's improve them for next year. The second twelve and
• 51:05
  Speaker 12: five season comes in.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: What they do They don't have no problem.
• 51:10
  Speaker 12: And the third one, I mean, any of these guys
• 51:13
  Speaker 12: could have go. Dak Prescott go to Jerry's office said, look,
• 51:17
  Speaker 12: let me take let me take a two million dollars less,
• 51:20
  Speaker 12: give me some offensive line free agent. Or Martin McCarthy
• 51:25
  Speaker 12: like you you care about your program. He could easily
• 51:27
  Speaker 12: go to Jerry john because look, Jerry, twelve and five,
• 51:31
  Speaker 12: I know what we need. You play championship.
• 51:34
  Speaker 19: You know what we need.
• 51:35
  Speaker 12: Nobody ever went there to shout and do something to
• 51:41
  Speaker 12: maybe put the best team when you show up twelve
• 51:45
  Speaker 12: and five three years in a row. That's what Rob
• 51:48
  Speaker 12: is talking about. If you've ever seen the Iceberg, iceberg
• 51:53
  Speaker 12: is ten percent, you see visually ninety percent is on
• 51:57
  Speaker 12: the water. Rob talking about all the anger that he
• 52:02
  Speaker 12: has is about the current. But he's been watching the
• 52:06
  Speaker 12: football since seventy seven. For example, all these years we
• 52:10
  Speaker 12: go through these we set the trend. As a Dallas Cowboys,
• 52:14
  Speaker 12: you have a pride as a Cowboys, a staff writer
• 52:19
  Speaker 12: and a good one at the least, you have a
• 52:23
  Speaker 12: little perk in your step when you walk into the stadium.
• 52:26
  Speaker 12: You work for the Cowboys. Who is the Howie Rosen?
• 52:31
  Speaker 12: You take these guys lunch. So for me, this is
• 52:35
  Speaker 12: what upset me. We set the trend, and everybody beat
• 52:39
  Speaker 12: us with everything that beset the standard. Love your brother
• 52:43
  Speaker 12: saying look to Jacob and Chris's kid, my pizza club,
• 52:47
  Speaker 12: Love you buddy.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: All right, appreciate that Ali a lot of good stuff.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: I can't say I know everything that you're referring to there,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: but I appreciate the call and the support for sure.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: And you know again, I'm a little again. I was
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: a little confused with some of the stuff that you
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: were saying. So appreciate the call. Let's move on to
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Zach in Atlanta.
• 53:12
  Speaker 20: Hey, what's up?
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: Nick?
• 53:13
  Speaker 11: How are you?
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: How are you?
• 53:15
  Speaker 20: I'm good man, you know, Friday night the news breaks
• 53:19
  Speaker 20: of Brian Schottenheimer Monday press conference. You got your show today.
• 53:24
  Speaker 20: I was hoping you'd get your Cabo trip, you know,
• 53:26
  Speaker 20: in the off season, but I don't know if it's
• 53:28
  Speaker 20: going to happen, man, at least not yet.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I like to go like right in the
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: middle of the week when big things are happening, you.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: You know that's what I hear. You're supposed to go
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: to Cabo, like right before like a big game or
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: big news announcement.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, now Cabo.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I don't even know anything about that. I can get
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: in a cab. I can't afford the the other O. Yeah, Cabo.
• 53:56
  Speaker 20: Well, hey man, obviously coaching news, that's great. Will McClay news,
• 54:01
  Speaker 20: that's great. I'm curious about, you know, Matty Refluse coming
• 54:06
  Speaker 20: back in the fold. He's gonna be our DC. There's
• 54:09
  Speaker 20: a lot of talk of the continuity for Dak's sake
• 54:11
  Speaker 20: in the offense and all that. I have my thoughts there,
• 54:15
  Speaker 20: but I'm thinking about Micah. This is his third defensive
• 54:21
  Speaker 20: coordinator in three years. I don't really know what I
• 54:25
  Speaker 20: Refluse is gonna bring to the table and how long
• 54:28
  Speaker 20: he'll stick around. But I would really love like a
• 54:32
  Speaker 20: Steve Spagnolo kind of guy who's like he's done the
• 54:35
  Speaker 20: head coaching thing. He's coming back and probably not going
• 54:39
  Speaker 20: to go do the head coaching thing again and just
• 54:42
  Speaker 20: laying as a defensive coordinator and coaching a great defense
• 54:46
  Speaker 20: in Kansas City. Now, obviously Matti Refluse, he was a
• 54:49
  Speaker 20: head coach for a second. Who knows if that's in
• 54:52
  Speaker 20: his future again, But he's I think, considerably younger than Bags.
• 54:57
  Speaker 20: But yeah, I'm just curious about your thought on the
• 55:00
  Speaker 20: uberfluce higher and the continuity. For Mike's sake, you know,
• 55:03
  Speaker 20: I like using him in different ways, but also you know,
• 55:07
  Speaker 20: if he's doing a new defense every year or two,
• 55:10
  Speaker 20: you know, is that gonna hinder his ability or or
• 55:13
  Speaker 20: really expand his potential?
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: So great, great points, Zach, I'll say this, Spagnolu, it
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: might be that might be what Eberflus is, you know,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, like when you view him as a defensive
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: coordinator with a team that's won a lot of Super Bowls?
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: And is it you know, is it Andy Reid, It's
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Holmes Kelsey, Chris Jones? And then now you know, we're
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: really starting to see Spagnolau as far as get you know,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: he he gets a lot of praise as well. Compare
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: him as a or evaluate him as a head coach.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was it was that great. Obviously
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: he didn't get another another turn at it. So you know,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: there's some great there's great guys that Dick Lebow might
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: be another one, great assistance, great coordinators, not so great
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: as a head coach in Campo. You could throw Dave
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Campbell in there as well. Maybe Matt Eberflus is that guy.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: You know that that's what we're about to find out.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: He's a lot younger, but he might be that guy
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: as far as you know, really good coordinators, really good schemes,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: and you know, I don't think I don't think Eberflus
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: is a bad coach. I mean, that was a really
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: unusual set of circumstances there. They're they're two or three
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: two or three games that that I mean really go
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: one way or another. They go his way. You know,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: he's still the head coach of the Bears probably, so
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: that's that's kind of the way it is. And a
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: few other callers had called in and talking about changes
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: from Schottenheim or tweaks and stuff. You know, you know,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: can they really change a lot? Think about changing two
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: or three things on your offensive line and your running
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: game or whatever that that that might just affect us
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: one drive, this field goal drive turned into a touchdown,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: and they did it three times and that got them
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: fourteen seventeen more points. That that that won that game.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: That might win two or three others, and you know,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: give yourself three or four, you know, three wins or
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: so give yourself three wins different. Now what is that
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: ten and seven? But three wins that matter. Now you're
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: playing for the last game of the season. Maybe you
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: know you maybe the last games you're playing it totally different.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe you win that game. I just did a few
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: tweaks here and there to the offense that that affected
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: this drive and then this drive and this drive, and
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: that won me a game, and I won two or
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: three games. Now I'm in the playoffs. I just changed
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: my whole season based off a few tweaks. I know
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's not that simple all the time. But
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: the point is that I don't think. I think when
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: you're sitting right there at that seven and ten, eight, nine,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: nine and eight, you're there. Now that being said, you
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: can have two or three things to go the other way,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: and you might be a four and thirteen football team
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: if you can go three wins this way. You can
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: go three that way. You got to remember that. So
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: that's the way it is. Make sure these tweaks are
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: the good ones and the right ones. But I don't
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: think in this league it's hard to make that big
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: jump from one to another. All right, let's go to
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: another break here on Cowboys storyline. We'll be right back
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: after this Cowboys fans.
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  Speaker 12: There is no eye in Dallas.
• 59:07
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  Speaker 5: blue star or a lone star for that matter, And
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  Speaker 5: thing and experience that is best enjoyed together with good
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  Speaker 1: It's Cowboys storyline right back here on Cowboys storyline. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Nick Eatman. I want to hear from you guys. Aight
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: a A eight five five two two nine seven. Probably
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: got another fifteen to twenty minutes to go, so got
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: a chance to get a few more callers. I know
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: this will be the first time a lot of you
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: have been able to really throw your comments out there
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: about Brian Schottenheimer. Mostly positive, uh not, not not all
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: gung ho, but it's more like, hey, it is what
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: it is. I'm on board. This is the coach of
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: the team. And that's kind of That's the way I've
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: always felt when when my team hires a new coach.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe I wasn't the one I was looking at it first,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: and you know, but but you know, he's the coach.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team. Let's go. I mean,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: that's what am I gonna do? How am I gonna change?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: That's kind of the way I've always kind of felt.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: But but I think, and I think because the bar
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: is very low and you don't know much about this guy,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: that I think that he was able to impress some
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: with with the way he carried himself in the press conference. Again, like,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: none of this matters if you don't go win games.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: I mean everyone knows that. Okay, So you can Dan
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Campbell saying we're gonna go bite kneecaps and all that.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: That wouldn't have mattered. It would have been it would
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: have been laughable if they didn't go and have some
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: success that they've had. So that was one of those
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: those press conferences that that that people remember and and
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: and they yeah, I'm sure their fans got excited, and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: it's turned out that that they did. He did, he
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: turned things around. This wasn't that kind of press conference,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: but it was, you know, he had some moments and
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: some lines in there about you know, of what they're
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: trying to do and and and how how they can
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: get there. So now it's now it's up to him,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: you know, go go figure it out. All right, let's
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: go to Rick. He's at Webster, Massachusetts.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: What's up, NX. How you doing?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Good?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: How are you all right, Yeah, Friday night's news is like,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: oh okay, that's good. Well, let's see where we go
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: from here. Let's give him a guy a shot. You know,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: I like what he said Monday's press conference trying to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: motion and all that stuff. They're shorten the line to
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: the field down to man, getting people close in and
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. But you know, let's see what he
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: can do, how he does with the draft, you know,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: OTA's training camp, free agency, and hopefully you know, they'll
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: be able to do something in the second or you know,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: early part of the free agency pickup withoks a couple
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: of key players to fill in some needs if we
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: lose players. So during the regular season, see if he
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: could do something that m Chart wasn't be able to do,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: is instead of the fifteen players that scripted, have something else.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, this is what they're doing. Now, let me
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: switch it up and try this instead. You make changes
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: on the fly or half time adjustments and stuff like that.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 7: Go with that.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: If we have a successful season, grave we don't won't
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: try again next year.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, I mean that's that's all you can do.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, but I I agree, I mean, I do
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: think that he's he's got that in him to you know,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: he's gonna take everything that he's learned from different coaches,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: his father included, and all that and kind of you know,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy included, learn some of those things. And
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: that's what you do as a head coach. That's what
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: you do in any in any profession. You know, if
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: I'm the boss one day, I'm gonna do this. And
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: so here we are. You know, this is his chance
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: to kind of take all of the things that he's
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: done and imply it.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: I like the Ebra plus higher and I don't know
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: about the Special Teams guy that don't know much about him.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: We'll see what he can do. But I definitely love
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: the news about and coming back for another fool of years.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, thank you, sounds good. Thank you.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Erwin and Colorado. Sorry, we
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: got news breaking here er in Colorado.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: What's up, hey, Nick?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: What's going on?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Good?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: How are you doing good?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: So you've got some breaking news, But I just wanted
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: to touch bases with you a little bit. You broke
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: about Will McClay And my question to you is if
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: Jerry Jones is so you know, he's basically responsible for
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: the draft picks and.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Stuff like that.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: Will McClay is like his right hand man in that regards,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: and we all know that he's pretty good, really good
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: at what he does. But seems to me like Will
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: McClay seems to get a pass every now and then
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: on some of the players that have been picked. And
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: we all know some of those players' names, And why
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: does it seem like McClay seems to get a pass
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: on these types of players.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: That Will Why Will get to pass on players?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: Yes, because there's been some questionable draft picks and I'm
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: sure he's been part of those conversations and now those
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: players have picked. I mean, it just seems like and
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm not cutting on him or any there. I
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: think he's a really good person in the organization. I
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: think he's done a really good job with what he's
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: been doing. But no one ever seems to criticize McClay
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: as being the so called general manager, because everybody kind
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: of looks at him as that anyways. But it just
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: seems like he just from fans abroad, Nothing ever comes
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: up about McClay making bad picks. And I just wanted
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: to get your take on that.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Well, my take on that is that's why he probably
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: had the pen in hand when they said you want
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: to sign this deal. I mean, what what better job
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: is there than that? I mean, like, he's got GM duties,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have the GM title, and he doesn't have
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: the he doesn't have the blowback when when there are
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: some bad picks, you know, so it sounds like a
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: pretty awesome job. I mean, and you're right, you're right.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: No one ever says Taco good, good pick. Will I mean, no,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: no one does that. You're you're right. I think that. Yeah,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I mean this team should get some criticism for I mean,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: you don't not all the picks are great. I think
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: I think though, over the time that the track record
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: has been, hey, this has been a really you know,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: they they've done a great job drafting guys. But the
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: last what three years, I think the last three years
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: you could say we haven't seen as much Yester Arron
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Bland was a great mid round pick, and so was Ferguson.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: But the last year both of them stepped back, did
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: not make a Pro Bowl injuries or whatever happened. So
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: and then the and combine that with the first round
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: picks have not been that good at all, you know.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: But the other thing, I think he kind of has
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: a hand in, and not only the draft picks, but
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: the free agency. Don't you think that Will McLay should
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: have a little bit more say on listen, we need
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: to really go after like, let's just say Henry because
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: Henry is really going to help running me And you
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: talked about this last year when they were in the
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: free agency about a running back they.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 6: Didn't do it.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: Doesn't Will McClay have some big, big time saying stuff
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he does. And I think but that
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: that goes in line with I don't think he's necessarily
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: changing their opinions on on what they're what their their
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: plan is as far as strategy and and philosophy on
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: building through the draft and not so much through free agency.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I think this last year might might have changed some
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: things for league wide, you know, because the theory is
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: is that these running backs, you pay him a third contract,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: then they're not going to be that great. And Derrick
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Henry and and Saquon Barkley, they they proved a lot
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: of people wrong a lot, and and and not just them,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: there were some other good, pretty good free agent running backs,
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  Speaker 1: so that that might have changed the way things are done.
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  Speaker 1: And you know it's a copycat league. Let's see if
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: the if the Cowboys and other teams, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: change their mind when it comes to getting running backs
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  Speaker 1: a little bit later in their career.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, thanks a lot, Nick particular my call.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks verwon appreciate that. Uh, let's go to Sebastian. He's
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: in Savannah, Georgia. What's up Sebastian?
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  Speaker 18: Myself by me though.
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  Speaker 21: I'm doing sir, How are you say I'm doing good?
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  Speaker 21: You know what, Let me just be one of the
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 21: first people to actually come out and say congratulations to
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 21: Brian Schottenheimer on getting a position of the promotion.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 21: Uh, mister Eman. At some point in time, we all
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 21: needed an opportunity. You got your opportunity with the Cowboys
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 21: a long time ago. Somebody saw something in you to
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 21: look at how it turned out for you. So I'm
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 21: hoping that it turns out well. I'm never going against
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 21: the head coach to be like, oh, I hope we
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 21: take the season or something like that.
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  Speaker 17: I hope this goes well.
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe that.
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  Speaker 21: In Jerry's advancing age, he's just going to pick a
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 21: guy who he could just fully around, but he doesn't
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 21: believe can do the job. So that being said, I
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 21: hope they give him every single tool that he needs
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 21: working closely with Will McClay. And I believe in Will McClay,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 21: and I'm gonna go ahead and choose a believer in
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 21: Brian Schottnheimer as well.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well I appreciate that, And again we don't
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: have a choice, you know, like like this is it.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: I bet, I've bet it does help when when people
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: kind of when buy in a little bit. But you know,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: I mean I say it helps. I mean it's it's helped,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: it's easier for this show. But but you know, again,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: these these calls are great, like like when the guy
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: like you sur Bashan calls in and says, hey, I'm
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: on a congratulations, let's go let's do this, Like that's
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: that's great. We seven calls ago when Rob from Vegas
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: called in and said terrible higher Okay, you know, like
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: we'll find out. We'll find out and and you know,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: two years, three years, we'll find out just how how
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: good these hires are. Just like the Bears are going
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: to find out if their coach is good, just like
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: the Jets will find out if Aaron Glenn is a
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: good coach, you know, we'll we'll find out. We'll find out.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: But the Raiders, if Pete Carroll is still a good coach,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: just because he's done it before, that doesn't mean it's
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: it's all gonna work out.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that have to go right
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: for the coaching situation to work. And we'll see if
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Schottenheimer can get can get that to turn here with
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys and take those things that he's learned for
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: so many years, not just as a coach, but also
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: a little kid at the table, you know, listening to
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: his dad. I mean, we'll see, we'll see if he's
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: got that in him. All right, Robbie and Coco Beach,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Florida is next.
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  Speaker 12: What's up?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 11: Nick Boy?
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: Took forever to get in.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 18: I've been calling just before the show started. Oh well,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 18: you're popular, man, I love you, man.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 8: We all do well.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: They they you know these this is the show. This
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: is the first show since the since the news.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's got got opinion. I mean I look at
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: it like, you know, there's there's fifteen twenty twenty five
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: people that call a lot and uh, you know you
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: want to get in for this show, and and so
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: I get it. I wish we could even go a
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: little bit longer. But iron half it is good. And
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: of course we've got Cowboys Cowboys Break coming up after this,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: so that all week long, a lot of the you know,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: you guys want to hear what you have to say.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: There's there's people that you know, have it, haven't got
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: a chance to really talk about the hire as well.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: We'll hear that on Cowboys Break coming up after this.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: But Robbie, what do you got?
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 18: So the number of years ago there was this guy,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 18: Jimmy Johnson's a great college coach. I had such apprehension
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 18: about him coming over and taking over for the Cowboys
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 18: after Tom Landry, because you know, Landry was stand there
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 18: and God to all of us, he was awesome. He
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 18: was good, good Christian, good person, great leader, awesome when
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 18: this tough start came in, you made us the best
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 18: team in the NFL for Kloy Well mind you, salary cap.
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  Speaker 7: I know.
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  Speaker 18: My apprehension this time is that Schottenheimer great dad, beautiful lineage,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 18: good coaching experience, but he's never really done anything with
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 18: this twenty five years experience makes it a little apprehensive. Yeah,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 18: but I'm still faithful Cowboys fan man, and I hope
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 18: the best for him. And I'll say congratulations to him too,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 18: like Sabath did. Yeah, and I hope, I hope he
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 18: does well. I hope he does what Jimmy did, puts
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 18: our what's our team back in the playoffs and the
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 18: super Bowls and you know, the best team in the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 18: NFL again. Yeah, I don't know if it will happen,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 18: but I sure hope. So the Matt Eberflus higher because
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 18: he was a linebackers coach under Rob Ryan.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 19: Is that right?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: And it was Marinelli. Yeah, he's for a little bit.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 18: Yeah, And I remember both of them. Marinelli and Rob
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 18: Ryan talked such great praises about him as a coach.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 18: And I think I'm pretty pleased about him being.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 7: A d C.
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  Speaker 18: I think that's gonna work really well.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: And other than that, I know you got calls.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 18: So if you got anything to add on ibra Flus
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 18: of his time here before that, you know, of great,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 18: If not, then at the next fell.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 19: Thanks brother.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 18: I appreciate you time, man.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: I appreciate appreciate you. You know, he ebra flu got
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: he got a pretty good gift there when he got
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: the coach Sean Lee. Because Sean Lee is like a
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: coach on the field, but he's not trying to be
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: a coach. He's trying to be a player. So a
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: lot of times when you have a a coach on
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: the field, you know, they they don't always do what
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: they're supposed to do as far as to help all
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: the other guys. Yeah, they can coach, they know the
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: game inside and out, but but are do they take
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: coaching as well too? And Shaun Lee was really good
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: at that. I think he helped Iberflus early on, you know,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: just just by having a guy that you know, he
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: didn't have to be the hard ass all the time
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: because he got Sean Lee right here. So but when
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: he went to Indianapolis, he did a nice job. I
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: think he had Darius Leonard there, Shack Leonard and and
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: and that that kind of, you know, kind of helped
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: take his game to another level with the Colts. But uh,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: and I might not have all my years just right
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: on what Eberflus has done, but I'm pretty sure that
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: that was the case there when he was with the Colts.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: So I think he's going to be a good hire.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: And and you know, Robbie said something about Jimmy as
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: a coach, and and and and he also said, you know,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: not sure what a Schottenheimer done in the twenty five years.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: And that's that's what the biggest gripe is. And I
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: think he understands that. Everyone understands that, you know, did
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: you deserve this opportunity? Did you you know, what have
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: you done to show that you can do that? And
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: we just talked about Steve Spagnolo and and he you know, great,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: great credentials as a coordinator. You know, he's won all
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowls. You know, it's with the Giants coordinator
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: and obviously the Chiefs when he was a head coach
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: it didn't work out. So so sometimes, you know, and
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: that's what happens. I mean, these guys with the Lions,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: these these two coordinators, because of the Lion's success, they
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: get jobs. Does that mean they're going to be good? No,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that. And so we've seen it both ways,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: you know, now Schottenheimer. But but and I wrote this
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: in my column on Monday, Schottenheimer got hired because of
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: the things we just can't see. You just can't You
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: can't see the relationships that he has with people, the
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: way the way he talks to people, the way that
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: that he understands uh, you know, the relationships that he
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: understands how to build culture. Those are just things you
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: just can't see. And we're not going to see it
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: in time. What we see is production, lack of production
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: x's and o's, things like that, rankings and their offensive
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: rankings stuff, those kind of things, and and that right
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: there is not going to impress a lot of the people.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: And I understand that, and I bet you he understands
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: that where he's going to have to take it to
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: another level. It's those things, those intangible things you just
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: can't see. All right, let's go, uh, well, one more
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Tumre calls. Let's go Sheriff Lonnie. He's in Kansas. Oh, Nick,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: how are you doing?
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 19: All? Doing? Okay? All right?
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: What's up?
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 7: All? Not much?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: I just.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 19: I was surprised at the pick, and I had a
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 19: lot of things at the beginning I was negative on
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 19: and I decided, you know what, I'm gonna stay positive
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 19: because Aaron Glenn, Yeah he might have been, but you
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 19: don't know the same way with Johnson. They're new guys.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 19: You don't know if how they can coach head coach. Wife.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 19: There's a lot of good coordinators that aren't wouldn't make
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 19: good head coaches, but they're great coordinators. And so I
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 19: decided I'm not gonna be negative. I lived through the
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 19: one and the one win season, and I stuck with
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 19: the Cowboys. All these haters that are gonna couit and
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 19: all that, well, I guess, go ahead, but I'm sticking
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 19: by them, and give Shaddy a chance and see what happens.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 19: And you got to put good coaches and players around you.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 19: I don't care who you are. I don't care if
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 19: you're Belichick or whoever. You got to put people around
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 19: you're that's gonna make a good football team. And that's all.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 19: That's all I got to say. And uh, looking forward
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 19: to another things.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it, Thank you, Lonnie. Uh, We're gonna
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: keep it moving here Brian in Florida. We are last call, Brian.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: What's up?
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  Speaker 19: All right?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 13: How you doing good?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 12: Good?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 13: Right to the point, Jerry, I'm a longtime Dallas fan. Jerry,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 13: during his press conference, said that he's the best person
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 13: for the job to get Dallas out of his drums.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 13: I'm sorry, I just can't bite it anymore. How many
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 13: head coaches has he gone through? And it hasn't until
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 13: he proves it, it's it's just more cliches.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 7: I just you got to prove.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 13: I'm not even asking for a super Bowl. Get to
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 13: an NFC conference game. You don't even have to win it,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 13: just get there. He hasn't done it, So fire the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 13: head coaches.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 12: But you.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, oh hey, Nick, all right, Uh yeah, I didn't
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: hear that last part.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 13: You say that again, Nick, right to the point. How
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 13: many head coaches has Jerry gone through and he it
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 13: hasn't worked. He says the press conference that he's the
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 13: best person.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 7: So what.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: What would you say? Okay, yeah, we did hear that part.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: So what what would you say would be? So what
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: should he do? Fire himself? As the GMS that what
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: you're saying.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 13: Get someone to help him or something, or do you
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 13: know you keep doing the same thing over and over again.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 13: You're repeating the process, and that's what they're doing. That's
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 13: what there's this droughts. Do something.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: I did it.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 13: I'm not nothing against shot in hyper I hope.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 17: He's great.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 13: He's Jerry's not the best person for the job.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 7: All Right, it's proven.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 19: Okay, that's all.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 13: That's all I'm saying.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I got it. I got it, And that
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: that doesn't matter because of uh, you know, is he
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: the right person?
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Uh, it's his job. It's his job, it's it's his organization.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: He could make that that you know, he makes that
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: that those decisions to put himself in that in that situation.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: If you believe he's the only decision maker, then then
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: your head is too far in the sand that that
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: that you know, you'll die. I mean, if you believe that,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: then it's it's ridiculous. He's got a lot of people
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: that he listens to, sometimes too many. One of them
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: is Will McLay. And Will McLay is a guy that
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: just signed a four year extension to be uh the
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: vice president of player Personnel here for the next at
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: least four years, uh, if not longer than that. So,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: and he does have Jerry's ear. He is the closest
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: thing to the GM as you would want. And I
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: think people are hung up on titles and things like that.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Jerry gets a lot of people, a lot of opinions,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of voices uh in his ear to to
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: to help him make some of these decisions. And UH
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: and one of them is Will, and Will is going
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: to be here. So guys, great show, appreciate it. We'll
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: be back next Wednesday to do it all over again.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: UH for Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman. See next time.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: On the storyline.
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