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  I mean, I'd love to hear more as to why you've seen it before.
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  And we can, we can explore that because I don't, I don't think I
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  felt like I'd seen it before because there was a kind of a
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  couple of odd moments where. Yeah, that's true.
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  I'm surprised, especially the ending.
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  It's obviously not like a total remake of anything.
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  It just to me, it felt like we were, it was a redo of Quantum
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  of Solace where it was like, OK, we've OK, you were chasing this,
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  this super secret organization. Well, guess what, it's back.
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  And and now you're going to see who the boss is.
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  Like it's, it's not going to be another henchman.
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  You're going to actually be like face to face with the boss.
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  Like, look, we're going to do it right this time.
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  We promise. We promise it'll be good.
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  I think the end villain at least had a interesting character
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  history where Blofeld in the originals was just a villain.
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  Like I don't think he had too much back story but I don't know
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  how much it does feel like a stand in.
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  I don't know if it felt just like Quantum Solace but it did
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  feel like Skyfall existed. And then we have the end of the
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  trilogy of Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace and this one
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  lost the name. This one.
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  Spector. So impressive of a movie I
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  forgot what it was called. Look to potato chip pictures.
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  We have podcasts reviewing movies, franchises.
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  Really. Right now we're set nearing the
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  end of our What would be a good adjective for James Bond?
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  That's probably good enough. Spectre is the penultimate of
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  the current James Bond franchise.
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  I'm sure we're going to get a new one because Amazon has the
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  rights. But I wonder if they have the
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  right to Spectre. Were they that circumspect with
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  their legal discussions? Who knows, but here we are with
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  the which year was this the 2015 release?
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  2012 was the last one and it felt like Bond was retiring, but
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  then he didn't at the end and this one has got to be the last
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  one until he doesn't retire again.
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  But actually he does retire in this movie until he doesn't
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  retire in the next movie. I feel like I'm, I can't
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  remember what the next movie begins like because do they
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  resolve that? I don't know.
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  I have never seen the next movie that is going to legitimately be
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  a first watch for me. I think I watched some of it
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  when I rented it once and it if this one is slow and 2 1/2 hours
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  long, the next one at least I think is a little bit faster but
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  still just as long. Oh boy.
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  OK, well I'm not staying up to watch it after we record
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  tonight. Where $200 million got you a
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  billion dollars in Skyfall. This film cost what 230 and I
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  gave them .8 8 billion or 880 million in I.
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  Was going to say when you put it in a decimal format that makes
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  it so much more humbling. Not even a billion.
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  And I mean, what else is there to say?
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  Is this the second one by Sam Mendes?
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  It is, and it was his second one in a row.
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  We haven't seen that since, like way back in the Sean Connery,
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  maybe Roger Moore. Well, yeah, Roger Moore through
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  Timothy Dalton had one guy directing all of them, but he
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  purposely was like small stakes, no end of the world stuff.
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  And this one, the stakes aren't quite end of the world.
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  I feel like it's kind of a lot of intelligence and this giant
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  organization like, OK, that tracks for a spy versus spy
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  scenario. And it does feel like a couple
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  smaller characters got a lot more screen time than they
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  usually do. And that's all right.
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  Oh. Yeah, yeah.
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  The complexity wasn't quite set up for me to believe that he was
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  the author of all of James's pain.
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  Yeah, 100% What a what a statement out of nowhere.
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  Yeah, it's like, OK, but yeah, that leads us to, I don't know,
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  what do you want to say else about the actual?
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  Meal. Well, I will say the only thing
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  that we have missed is actually introducing ourselves.
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  Oh, if you're what? If you're listening this far, we
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  are your hosts. I am Justin.
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  And I am B Sammy Davis. It's.
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  Great to have you back on the podcast for listening to us.
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  Yes. My big, big issue with this
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  movie is that I do agree that having, you know, bad guys
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  getting total access of our data and knowing what's going on at
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  all times, that is scary. It's just I feel like I already
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  live in that world. And so it's hard to feel like
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  this movie has save the day because surprise, Bond lost in
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  the real world. Like we really are being
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  monitored at all times. I know we'll get to the end of
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  the movie, but it does feel funny that the the timer is
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  counting down to when the next evil villain system will kick
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  on. And it's like, well if there's
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  an on switch, like why not turn it back off?
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  Like sure, all of the information will have gone out
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  the door, but. Can you like pull the branch off
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  of? Yeah.
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  GitHub like. Just turn it off again, who
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  knows? And I guess that's what he's
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  coding for there. You know, that's part of the
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  security is that they don't want.
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  But yeah, it's, it is a pretty hot mess.
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  And I, I, I, I don't know, it's, it looks great.
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  And I will say the intro is really good and it's kind of
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  teasing us to what Sam Mendes will do in 1917, his World War
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  One single shot movie. Well, like I think there are a
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  couple of cuts in the movie, but for the most part once the
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  camera starts tracking there are no obvious cuts in the movie and
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  it. Looks brilliant.
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  I'm the intro is very yellow and it just it feels so
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  choreographed at the beginning because of the one shot and then
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  I kind of lose track of caring when they're in the helicopter,
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  but we'll set it up this. Is AI.
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  Don't know what country we're in.
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  We are in Mexico. I just saw a flag.
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  Bond is walking through the crowd in a white suit and we see
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  him. It's kind of opposite all of the
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  black people, black dressed people in the processions
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  you're. Close except.
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  I'm. Bond in the world?
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  Exactly because he's got a mask on.
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  We don't know who it is. It could be a Bond.
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  No fake out. Bond is standing on an angle
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  where this guy in white walks by.
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  I watched this man twice. To a team.
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  I forgot to look if Bond is genuinely there.
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  That's the thing I don't. Know he walks by him and turns
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  and Bond continues in the direction he was going into a
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  hotel and it's like you've completely lost sight of this
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  guy. But as he goes up into the hotel
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  with the lady, she seems convinced that they're going to
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  do stuff. And it's surprise when Bond has
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  completely changed his suit in five seconds.
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  I'm baffled by it too. But this is what he does to
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  women all the time. Like he will use them as cover
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  in order to get somewhere. He needs access to this
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  particular perch on the roof so he can walk very coolly over to
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  a place to see a room that I presume he's bugged.
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  I don't have no idea how he's hearing them.
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  Yeah, for real. And I learned the bond speaks
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  Spanish. I don't know why I didn't think
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  he did. But like there's subtitles but
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  he doesn't have subtitles so. Yeah, yeah.
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  Why would he know? I guess he's just a smart.
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  Guy, I mean it, it feel like in other spots he does speak like
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  German. I don't know what he speaks when
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  he goes to the is it Italian? I think he speaks Italian.
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  I think like they're in Rome later on, but I don't know
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  Italian. Anyway, the helicopter bit, they
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  notice him, he's trying to assassinate one of them, and
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  then they go on the run, but this building crashes down.
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  Bond gets a lucky shot that kills a building because he
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  takes one shot at a dude, takes another shot at another dude,
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  takes a shot trying to hit a third dude, and hits the wall,
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  and then seconds later there's an explosion.
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  Must have hit a sparking gas pipe, yeah.
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  And it, it causes the, the collapse of the building into
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  the one that Bond is standing on.
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  I was having fun until the 1st explosion and by the domino
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  effect of the building crashing and you know, creating a ramp,
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  like it stopped being fun for me at that point.
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  And I was like, Dang it, they lost.
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  Like, I don't know, it felt a little phoned in.
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  He went. He goes down a slide.
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  Helicopters where I got like, OK, he has to fight this guy.
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  He only manages to get a ring. Why?
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  Why is he focusing on the ring? He gets a ring.
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  OK, Like it didn't the previous quantum duty find a ring?
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  That's where I'm there's a couple of hand waves in this
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  entire movie that just aren't I don't enjoy them.
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  Skyfall felt like nothing was unexplainable, so then he gets
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  the ring, kicks the guy out of the helicopter while the
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  helicopter pilot's doing nothing, and then takes control
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  of the helicopter. This is where I have to jump in
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  because Bond started his fight with the helicopter pilot.
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  Like so Bond starts fighting this Skiara guy.
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  We don't know his name yet but you know, he starts fighting the
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  guy in white after he has survived killing a building and
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  they have chased each other through a the day of the dead
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  parade and the helicopter is there to pick up Skiara.
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  But Bond you know, catches up and gets in there and starts
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  fighting and after like throwing 2 punches at Skiara, he leans
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  into the cockpit and starts hitting the pilot.
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  The pilot hasn't done anything, and presumably he's just happy
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  to fly, but Bond starts beefing with him, too.
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  Like I'm going to start punching you now.
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  It's going to work out, don't worry about it.
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  It's fun to see the mayhem, like it would be really intense to
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  have been just an extra and likely just a citizen who was
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  like told, hey, they're going to be filming here.
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  Do you want to be a part of it? Like that's also assuming that
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  they did any of that practical and I you know, I don't know, it
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  didn't look. Digital helicopter looks like
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  it. Yeah.
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  Yeah, it looked practical. Only think I saw an article say
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  that the procession and all the extras went like all day long
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  because they just wanted to get a nice good cut.
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  And I don't know if it was just the beginning procession or the
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  helicopter area. Yeah.
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  But the helicopter at the end of it, Bond manages to take
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  control, survive. Both bad guys fell out.
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  He has a ring. We are at 13 minutes when the
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  intro finally the song begins and I've never been more
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  disappointed in an intro song. For real, Oh my gosh.
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  The song itself is fine, the credits sequence itself is fine.
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  It just doesn't feel like a Bond movie.
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  I wouldn't go that far. I don't like the song.
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  I've I'm not a huge Sam Smith fan like he's.
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  Gonna enjoy his other ones. Yeah, he's good ones.
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  And I'm sure there are good ones out there.
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  To me, this sounded like any other of his songs and so I was
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  like, whatever. But we're so ready for a
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  bombastic mood setting, larger than life theme song.
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  And then we get this little whiny song with piano.
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  Yeah, it like I, I just didn't like the song.
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  I don't have any musical criticisms.
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  It just it wasn't memorable. Oh yeah.
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  Oh yeah. It does match I feel like the
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  style of the other ones I've heard from Sam Smith but.
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  I will say the most memorable thing about it is how
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  disappointing it is. And I would say this is almost
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  the reverse of that Madonna song.
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  Die Another Day I think was hers.
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  And I love that song. That song is terrible, but I
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  love it. And then this song is just
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  bland. And I genuinely don't like that
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  it is a song in a Bond movie. It makes me even more angry
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  about KD lang's surrender. Like Sam Smith got a whiny piano
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  ballad as the opening theme song for a Bond movie.
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  I don't even know if it comes back at the end.
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  No, no, there are like cues and themes from the music that will
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  be repeated throughout the movie.
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  So there is like a a hummable riff that is distinctive, but
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  then it's better when it's orchestrated and it's just part
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  of the regular movie. Like I don't like this one.
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  I don't like this one. Do enjoy when he recovers the
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  helicopter out of a spin, the fanfare that does the bond.
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  Like success, like good job, This is not the Price is Right
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  failure song. So you made it bond.
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  Good job, you're awesome. Now let's kill the intro and try
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  to forget it. Well.
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  And also try to forget the intro when that is done.
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  He's not a good intro trying to think of how much how how Bond
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  is in this movie, because I I will at least say he feels
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  different in when he's talking to M when he's fighting in like
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  the snow area. He's at least the examples I
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  have are he's not quite. So what's the word opposing to
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  what M suggesting? Like yes, he's not going to sit
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  on the sideline, but he's like, Yep, sounds good.
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  Yep, sounds good. Yeah, he is much more
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  accommodating than either Daniel Craig's bond or really any of
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  the other rebellious bonds have ever been.
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  Yeah. I think he's setting it up to be
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  able to go do what he his own little mission that he's doing.
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  But it was a change. Yeah, when I referenced the ski
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  part, he instead of shooting the bad guy's dead, he's like
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  punches 1, knocks him out, shoots the other guy in the leg.
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  And it's like back when M previous M was telling him not
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  to kill everybody. He took it to heart.
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  Yeah, unless he can kills him, he'll change.
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  It's a little different. Yeah.
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  And you know, that is the advantage to a hard reboot.
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  One of the other advantages to a hard reboot is that you don't
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  have to have any of the former mythology.
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  And I, I, oh boy, I want so badly to like the changes that
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  they made with this mythology. But I, I, well, we can't get
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  into it yet, but I will say this movie eventually to me becomes a
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  parody of a parody. And that kind of breaks my
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  heart. But, you know, first we've got
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  to get back into MI 6. And like you said, there was
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  that conversation. But we do get to meet our first
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  new character of the movie, someone in the intelligence
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  agency, maybe I. Forget his name.
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  Is Max Dinby and for some reason Bond just calls him C and it's
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  like why? Why did Bond decide oh then you
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  must be C Why? Why?
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  None of that makes sense. I.
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  Cannot remember any of the lines for like maybe he said he was in
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  a committee or something like no I have no idea and.
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  I don't think there is anything that would suggest that I mean.
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  Like there must be something, right?
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  The C word in, you know, British slang is a real word.
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  And so obviously that's what they're going for.
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  But it's so crude that it feels out of place.
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  Like, especially with this Bond, who is so clever and so
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  intelligent, like, where, where did he pull C?
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  Call him D? It has the same meaning.
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  There you go. Oh, I mean, it establishes at
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  least our secondary bad guy, which he doesn't hide it or the
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  film doesn't hide it very well, but he's not going to be welcome
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  and we can already be suspicious of him.
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  And guess what? Our suspicion pays off.
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  Good job audience. We're so smart, everybody.
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  We did it. The film told us too.
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  Yeah, yeah, Obvious bad guy was obviously the bad guy.
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  It turns out he was the bad guy. Like the I don't remember the
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  advertisement for this so much, but I do feel like they didn't
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  hide away the main villain in the Billings because Christopher
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  Waltz. Wasn't he coming off of like
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  Inglorious Basterds? Or I have no idea after this.
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  I do know that they didn't. They clearly wanted it to be a
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  big reveal that this was Blofeld.
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  And yet like you can, you can clearly see who the actor is
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  whenever he's shadowed. Like they even in the movie,
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  they give us this red herring of his dead name before he becomes
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  Blofeld. And like, and I do vaguely
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  remember in the advertising, they wanted it to be this
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  mystery of like who is Bond's greatest villain and who where
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  is he? What's happening?
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  It was all hype. They just bought the rights back
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  for for Spectre. And to answer your previous
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  question, yes, Amazon now owns Spectre.
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  Like it was MGM who purchased Spectre in order to consolidate
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  all of the Bond holdings as it were.
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  And that was like the last piece was Spectre itself.
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  And so they jumped the gun by doing Quantum of Solace.
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  They didn't need to have Quantum at all.
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  If they had just held on to the strategy and been like, OK, we
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  are going to own everything Bond related, then we wouldn't have
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  needed either of these movies. They had just had it, yeah.
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  Yeah, anyway, they're. I'm trying to figure out where
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  we are. I'm so flustered by this movie.
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  Oh. We got out of the helicopter.
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  MI 6 is gone. Yeah, we talked about Moneypenny
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  talking with him. No, because Bond is, he's not
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  like fired. He's just put on Oh yeah,
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  suspension. He's he's on vacation.
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  And then, yeah, he asked Moneypenny to go to his house,
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  and we're sitting here thinking, like, is he being creepy again?
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  Like, come on. But no.
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  His reason? This time, at least.
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  Yep, he has a a home movie of former M because we still can't
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  let go of Judi Dench and she's still the one giving the
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  mission. I wonder if she would feel any
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  of that in the last movie. It's interesting knowing that
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  there's a next movie, especially at the end of this one.
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  But anyway, yeah, she's convinced that Bond needs to
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  take someone out and watch the funeral.
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  It's like, OK, that's not much to go on.
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  Eventually he figures out he finds the right person, but
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  that's another hand wave of how did you find the right person?
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  I guess he was just a public figure, or at least he didn't,
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  he didn't have a pseudonym or a, a code name.
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  So they would, they would announce the obituary right
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  there in the papers. But I, I do agree that I'm, I'm
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  just sitting here thinking like, all right, well, at least Bond
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  is smart again and he knows how to like put together leads and
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  put together pieces. But why does he need, Oh, I
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  remember why he needs Moneypenny.
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  It's, it's because he wants to look up or he, he needs someone
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  inside to do research because later on he will call and be
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  like, do research on this specific person, both up to and
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  after his death. And that doesn't really pay off
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  for anything but whatever. You know, it's, it's a
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  interesting line. I.
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  Can't remember what even he asks her to look at.
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  Because it's over. Yeah, she.
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  Well, like at the beginning, he doesn't.
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  See he. He doesn't see friends.
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  So he says something like I need you to do research and I cannot
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  remember who, He asked her. To what she's researched.
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  Yeah, because he's essentially like, I'm going to go to Rome.
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  Like absolutely no one is stopping me.
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  I am on my way out. I'll even go visit Q and get
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  trackers in my blood and I'm still just going to go away.
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  Like no one is stopping me on this mission.
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  But I know he gave her a mission and I can't remember what it was
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  because I don't think it means anything.
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  I don't think it matters at all. I mean, I think it's maybe
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  figuring out more about the funeral or something, yeah.
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  It's gotta be something. It's what it really exists for
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  is to compromise Miss Moneypenny so that later on in the movie, C
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  can reveal that he's been listening in on Bond's
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  conversations. The whole.
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  Time. The whole time.
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  The whole time. Yeah, I mean, I'm glad that
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  she's back in the movies. Oh yeah, I love our new Miss
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  Moneypenny. I'm glad that she's a part of
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  the action. I wish you were more a part of
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  the action in this movie. But you know, I'm glad that that
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  these movies with the hard reboot, we get to see MI 6 and
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  its its component members as part of the characters and as
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  part of the the whole experience.
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  It's not just Bond versus a super villain, you know?
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  Yeah. But I have mixed feelings about
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  the Q scene in this movie. I think it's fine I.
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  I was gonna say that I feels like some of the things that, I
• 27:55
  mean, that's most movies, but the things that happened to Bond
• 27:58
  are necessary. So in the future, Q knows where
• 28:01
  Bond less maybe for any other plot point.
• 28:07
  OK, Bond needs to be hiding away somewhere not supposed to be
• 28:12
  there, but Q needs to be able to lie to him and OK, so then he
• 28:17
  has to go get trackers in his blood.
• 28:19
  OK, Thought he was just on like house arrest or something.
• 28:23
  Yeah, it was. Stood down.
• 28:27
  It's such a non issue in such a dumb little side thing.
• 28:34
  I'm just going to cover the entirety of the blood, the smart
• 28:38
  blood program right now. Bond gets injected.
• 28:41
  He convinces Q to give him two days without, you know anyone
• 28:45
  knowing where he is. Then he call or he does
• 28:49
  something that gets M's attention.
• 28:52
  M calls Q and says where's Bond? Q covers for him and says he's
• 28:57
  in Chelsea so Bond can continue to do his own thing.
• 29:02
  Then no one cares about the smart blood program until we
• 29:06
  find out who the bad guys are and suddenly the smart blood
• 29:10
  program needs to be deleted. Like it is so dumb it doesn't
• 29:16
  need to exist. Oh, it makes me angry.
• 29:20
  They could just track him on his phone or something, I don't
• 29:24
  know. Yeah, yeah.
• 29:25
  Track him with a different bug, yeah.
• 29:29
  But we do get to see the car. Yeah, the car.
• 29:33
  Car is cool now, one of the things I need to point out
• 29:37
  because every once in a while I will surf YouTube and see what
• 29:41
  other people have to say about the movies that we are watching.
• 29:44
  And there was a Cinema Sins on Spectre and they point out the
• 29:50
  watch that Q gives him that is a watch so he will be on time.
• 29:56
  And later on that watch becomes a bomb.
• 29:59
  And they're like you told us, this watch was nothing more than
• 30:02
  a watch, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 30:03
  Except the very next thing that Q says is.
• 30:08
  The alarm is really loud though, and Bond looks at the watch,
• 30:13
  realizing the watch is explosive.
• 30:16
  So it's not like he does tell him.
• 30:19
  It's just a little more clever than most of us are willing to
• 30:22
  admit. Yeah, I think, I think I
• 30:26
  understood that it was a bomb because I I can also see where
• 30:31
  it could just be oh, the alarm's loud so that you'll be on time,
• 30:34
  but. Or the alarm for the car that
• 30:36
  they just showed us is really loud.
• 30:38
  So if you try to steal it, be aware of the car alarm, you
• 30:42
  know. And then one other thing that I
• 30:45
  have to point out, it's shortly after this, but it is Q related.
• 30:51
  Double O 9 shows up to pick up the Aston Martin DB10.
• 30:56
  It is therefore supposed to be ready and prepared for Double O
• 31:01
  9 to pick it up. But when Bond decides to use
• 31:06
  most of the gadgets, they do not, well, I wouldn't say most
• 31:10
  of them. At least the the important
• 31:12
  machine gun does not have any ammunition loaded.
• 31:17
  And so it's like then it's not ready for pick up.
• 31:23
  Yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but chalk that one up to, oh, it
• 31:28
  needs to not work. So Bond has to improvise.
• 31:31
  Like, cool. So then he could have just, you
• 31:33
  know, stolen it and Double O 9 didn't need it.
• 31:37
  Yeah. Yeah, it's still in.
• 31:39
  It could have been unfinished, yeah.
• 31:41
  Unfinished date, yeah. But no, it's ready to be picked
• 31:44
  up now. Except it's not ready to be
• 31:46
  picked up. Like it's one of those things
• 31:48
  where they're like, well, Bond has has funny moments.
• 31:51
  Let's make sure there are funny moments in this Bond movie.
• 31:54
  And I don't know, I've never been a huge fan of funny Bond.
• 32:00
  Like sometimes he's given me a good chuckle, but most of the
• 32:02
  time I'm kind of cringed out by it.
• 32:05
  Yeah, yeah, I, I enjoy that Q is a little more lighthearted and
• 32:12
  he, I think he laughs at something silly.
• 32:16
  Like it's not so far as to make him childish or something, but
• 32:22
  he gets a little bit more of personality.
• 32:27
  Yeah. And we can kind of see them more
• 32:30
  as peers now, almost like original Q was with every other
• 32:36
  bond, where you start to see the relationship that they have,
• 32:40
  that it is a friendly 1:00 and that they they do respect each
• 32:44
  other. So I'm starting to see that.
• 32:46
  And I didn't get that very much in the last movie.
• 32:50
  No, like, yeah, I think it's it's a little bit of humor fun
• 32:59
  that takes up good space in a very long movie.
• 33:05
  Very slow movie. Oh my gosh, even the speech
• 33:11
  sounds slow. I caught up a little bit on some
• 33:16
  of the parts at 2 times speed and I swear they speak at their
• 33:22
  regular speech rate at 2 times because it's like half of the
• 33:27
  speed we've got. To make it dramatic.
• 33:36
  Yeah. So I think a lot of it is just
• 33:41
  empty space. Yeah.
• 33:43
  Well, and one of the things that we got to keep in mind is that
• 33:46
  while we have the same director, we don't have the same
• 33:50
  cinematographer. And there are some shots that I
• 33:54
  think look pretty good, but I don't think they're ever going
• 33:59
  to reach the levels that Skyfall had where they were really going
• 34:04
  for playing with light and dark. But in this one, you know, the
• 34:10
  funeral scene is one of those moments where you look at the
• 34:14
  entire composition of the shot, and it looks pretty cool.
• 34:19
  You've got all these white pillars contrasted with, you
• 34:23
  know, people wearing their dark suits.
• 34:25
  It looks almost like you could find it in a museum somewhere as
• 34:32
  like a still life. Yeah, the funeral, I don't know
• 34:38
  how he knows to approach the wife, but that's the person that
• 34:42
  he's supposed to be watching. Somehow M knew that.
• 34:47
  I I think he's on his own at this point and I think
• 34:50
  approaching the wife is just his intuition to be like, I don't
• 34:54
  know anybody else here, but I know Skiara like, I killed that
• 34:58
  guy all. Right, 'cause I'm like, it
• 35:02
  doesn't. I don't know what is the, the,
• 35:09
  the intuition for going to that person.
• 35:11
  I feel like sometimes they'll either be like, oh, he thought
• 35:17
  of this or something is different.
• 35:19
  No, he just the the people at the funeral go away with a back
• 35:26
  headshot from our Blofeld character.
• 35:30
  She's the only one left there. It's like, I guess I better
• 35:33
  approach this person. Thank you World for narrowing it
• 35:37
  down for Bond. Yep, everybody cleared out at
• 35:40
  the same time except for one person.
• 35:42
  That's who we talked to. And it is.
• 35:46
  Would you call her a Bond girl? Because I like she seemed like
• 35:52
  less so than other ones although.
• 35:54
  She is going to end up on the Bond girl list.
• 35:58
  Yes, but she would definitely not be one that's very
• 36:04
  important, and this is one of those.
• 36:06
  At least she survived to our knowledge.
• 36:10
  As far. As exactly.
• 36:12
  Felix was helpful even though he doesn't exist in this film.
• 36:15
  Yeah, yeah, like we say he does. He got a name drop and
• 36:19
  presumably he's gonna protect this woman in Italy and get her
• 36:26
  out of Italy. But I can't believe I have
• 36:30
  forgotten her name. The actress's name is.
• 36:35
  Monica Bellucci. Yes.
• 36:37
  So apparently she had been considered in one of the Brosnan
• 36:43
  era movies. I think it it may have been the
• 36:46
  Denise Richards movie where they had been considering Monica
• 36:52
  Bellucci and I guess the producers were like, no, she's
• 36:55
  too old, we don't want to go for her.
• 36:59
  I I still think she is gorgeous. Like now, like almost 20 years
• 37:05
  later from when she was originally going to be cast, she
• 37:10
  is still stunning and breathtaking to look at, but
• 37:16
  pretty big star for a very small role.
• 37:20
  Like Teri Hatcher. Exactly.
• 37:22
  Yeah, but surviving. Oh, I.
• 37:24
  Didn't know she was in this. OK, well, there she is.
• 37:28
  And Bond's gonna get information from her and.
• 37:32
  But he doesn't immediately take off like most of the other women
• 37:35
  that you get information out of. So that's a choice.
• 37:38
  Yeah, OK. I mean, he wanted to have a
• 37:41
  little bit of like, remember, his type is the married woman,
• 37:45
  and a widow is a married woman who's never going to have a
• 37:48
  jilted husband coming after you. I guess I don't know.
• 37:54
  I still don't quite get like, OK, if that's just your type,
• 37:58
  but I feel like it when they said it, it felt like a wink
• 38:01
  wink nudge nudge. Of course that's your type.
• 38:03
  Like why is that your type? And I, I just keep holding on to
• 38:08
  it. I don't know if they have ever
• 38:10
  explored it since then You. Could Megan was married once.
• 38:14
  That's why he was married. You could make the argument that
• 38:20
  he was going after at least a taken woman in Skyfall, but I
• 38:26
  don't think he went after really anyone in Quantum of Solace.
• 38:30
  I think he was still smitten by Vesper.
• 38:34
  Oh. Yeah, and I like at the end when
• 38:37
  they finished everything, he kisses the other lady and it's
• 38:40
  kind of out of nowhere because they're partying ways.
• 38:43
  Like, OK, friends kiss goodbye. Sure.
• 38:46
  That's a weird thing we do now, I guess.
• 38:50
  But, you know, I'm glad that Lucia, Lucia gave us the
• 38:55
  information because, you know, the other very pretty shot that
• 39:00
  kind of makes me angry is coming up next when we find out that
• 39:05
  this secret organization is going to be meeting in Rome.
• 39:09
  That's going to be fun. I'm not remembering the pretty
• 39:14
  shot. Well, the pretty shot is really
• 39:17
  just the when Bond is looking over the conference table and
• 39:23
  we've got the villainous looking.
• 39:26
  It's a giant. Room exactly your favorite and I
• 39:29
  we haven't had a giant, giant room or yeah, these imposing
• 39:33
  structures have been noticeably lacking in this franchise for a
• 39:39
  while, so I'm glad that we've got another impractical interior
• 39:43
  design. At least the table serves the
• 39:46
  purpose of fitting like 50 people around.
• 39:49
  Yeah, with their. Assistance Giant.
• 39:53
  There's no giant red circle on it, but everybody has a seat.
• 39:58
  If you want a seat, you just got to kill somebody.
• 40:01
  I'm going to say the audience kind of bugs me because like
• 40:05
  what we know about conspiracies is that the more people
• 40:10
  involved, the harder it is to keep a secret.
• 40:14
  And the original versions of Spectre, the meetings would only
• 40:19
  have the numbered to hire members there.
• 40:24
  But now we've got every goon and thug across the globe listening
• 40:30
  to the bosses make their plans. And I'm just like, they're going
• 40:35
  to talk. Someone here is going to talk.
• 40:39
  They are so trusted, Yeah. Although like if the succession
• 40:45
  works in that if you kill somebody, you take their spot.
• 40:50
  I'm like, I feel like there would be so much betrayal.
• 40:55
  You couldn't trust anybody. Yeah.
• 40:57
  So how would you let them to your meeting like?
• 40:59
  Yeah, that's the other thing. How do you how do you
• 41:02
  effectively run a meeting when someone who has a very
• 41:06
  complicated plan gets murdered midway through the plan?
• 41:12
  And now you've got someone who's like, I have no idea what they
• 41:15
  were doing, I just wanted their seat.
• 41:17
  Like I'm going to go take care of this by doing something that
• 41:23
  it's my turn. I have proven my strength OK.
• 41:27
  Let's let's talk about proving our strength because that's the
• 41:30
  other thing about this scene that that I need to talk about.
• 41:36
  For. Yeah, the fact that Drax appears
• 41:42
  in this movie and he's got he's got 2 steel plates on his
• 41:50
  thumbs, all the better for gouging people's eyeballs out.
• 41:55
  And we will see those plates much later in the movie.
• 42:00
  But the concept of gouging out eyes just goes away after this
• 42:05
  moment in the movie. Like he his gimmick is steel
• 42:10
  thumbs and. Good vibes.
• 42:13
  He's got a double barrel pistol that is more impressive than
• 42:17
  anything he does. Dave Bautista doesn't even get
• 42:21
  to speak in this movie. He gets his line over dubbed.
• 42:24
  His one line gets over. They dubbed it.
• 42:28
  Oh that's a shame. I feel like he was decently
• 42:32
  known but I I think I mix up my ears cause maybe he was just
• 42:36
  doing guardians. I don't.
• 42:38
  Know well and I don't know if Guardians had come out yet.
• 42:40
  Wasn't that 2016 maybe? Oh, I have no idea.
• 42:45
  I think he's all right as a menacing presence, but he does
• 42:50
  only get as much dialogue as Jaws so.
• 42:53
  Guardians came out in 2014 and Spectre came out in 2015.
• 42:59
  Like people knew that that Dave Bautista knew how to act and
• 43:03
  speak. So, and maybe I'm wrong, maybe
• 43:06
  he overdubbed his own line. It just.
• 43:09
  Maybe it was shot to really fire before.
• 43:11
  Yeah, like I it does not sound like his voice when when he
• 43:16
  gives his one and only line later in the movie.
• 43:19
  And I just hate the gimmick. So I don't I hate him.
• 43:21
  I don't hate him as a henchman. The thumbs air since they're
• 43:26
  thrown away like Jaws was Jaws all the time.
• 43:31
  He was jumping through whatever he needed to jump through.
• 43:33
  This guy only gouges out eyes. He kind of attempts it when
• 43:37
  they're fighting on the train, but like mildly.
• 43:41
  Yeah, he's in the wrong. Like he gets behind Bond and you
• 43:45
  can see him getting his fingers in position.
• 43:47
  And then I think he realizes, oh, what am I going to do?
• 43:51
  Stab through bone like. Well, so I mean, this is
• 43:59
  supposed to be introducing us to Franz, which is who Bond is
• 44:03
  going to ask Moneypenny to look into because he's sure that
• 44:07
  Franz is dead. And I'm like, how Are you sure?
• 44:10
  I don't even know who this guy is.
• 44:12
  We won't find that out till like another hour from now.
• 44:15
  And it's gonna be treated like the biggest mystery that they
• 44:19
  only look at three times in the entire movie, and they don't
• 44:23
  even like, they barely explain it.
• 44:26
  It is Franz himself who finally delivers the metaphor to the
• 44:32
  audience and is like, this is how we've been related the whole
• 44:36
  time and Bond is silent and just like, whatever.
• 44:40
  Like I don't even remember the dude I was.
• 44:43
  I was surprised because I was like, oh I mean that is plenty
• 44:48
  good motivation for a villain, but like, I didn't ever consider
• 44:55
  Bond's adopted parent and their family so hey like OK, you
• 45:02
  surprised me. This guy actually came out of
• 45:04
  nowhere. Why would Bond suspect him to be
• 45:08
  the mastermind of everything? He wouldn't.
• 45:10
  So OK, I can live with that assumption.
• 45:15
  I'll agree with you completely. Like it's totally fine for
• 45:20
  someone who has faked their death to still be obsessed with
• 45:25
  someone else. And to manipulate their lives
• 45:31
  and to make, you know, certain moves without revealing
• 45:35
  themselves. I'm fine with that.
• 45:37
  I'm genuinely not upset even by the stolen valor of this movie
• 45:42
  claiming Skyfall. Yeah, of course he was part of
• 45:48
  our, no, he was independent contract.
• 45:52
  Yeah, let that movie be on its own.
• 45:54
  Why does it have to be swallowed up into the beast that is this
• 45:57
  movie? But I just never care.
• 46:02
  Like I almost feel like they don't need well.
• 46:07
  That sort of. It's, yeah, it's so hard because
• 46:11
  on the one hand, it is a very interesting idea and why not?
• 46:15
  It's a hard reboot. We can do whatever we want in
• 46:18
  this universe now and then. On the other hand, you haven't
• 46:25
  watched Austin Powers. And I have well, if it, if it's
• 46:33
  helpful, I think without the motivation, I, I just question
• 46:39
  why was Franz already working on the anti spy spy organization?
• 46:47
  Because it felt like Bond kind of wandered into their
• 46:50
  crosshairs. Yeah.
• 46:52
  And so then he was like, OK, so I'm gonna take out my revenge on
• 46:56
  Bond now. But if Bond hadn't ever fallen
• 47:01
  into Spectre's villains, would Franz just be working on his spy
• 47:09
  mayhem? And or was he so mad at Bond
• 47:12
  because it felt like that's what they wanted it to be meaningful?
• 47:16
  Like he is mad at Bond but he wasn't like planning this.
• 47:21
  Was he planning on James becoming a spy?
• 47:23
  I don't think so. Oh my gosh, you have just
• 47:29
  bullseyed my biggest beef with this movie and that.
• 47:35
  Everything was planned. Yeah, I'm, I'm sitting here like
• 47:38
  how you, Mr. White, who used to be #2 to this organization,
• 47:45
  laughed during the beginning of Quantum of Solace, where he was
• 47:49
  like, we are convinced that you are looking over our shoulders
• 47:54
  and you don't even know who we are.
• 47:57
  And we have continued to not know anything about who they
• 48:02
  are. And now he shows up saying, not
• 48:06
  only did you foil those plans as intended, I knew everything
• 48:13
  about your life. I have been following like, your
• 48:17
  military career. I somehow knew that you got into
• 48:22
  MI 6. And then I started these plans
• 48:24
  like, Oh my gosh. And WAVY.
• 48:29
  Yes, yes. Of course This is why I did
• 48:33
  this. Like I doubt that.
• 48:37
  Press X to down. And you know, a big part of this
• 48:42
  to me is that every other movie they have been content to at
• 48:47
  least tell one story. And then the follow up movie,
• 48:51
  they're like, no, we're telling a big story and you guys got to
• 48:55
  get on board for this big story and then nobody cares about the
• 48:59
  big story. Yeah, I, I think we're spending
• 49:05
  the time on this guy, Blofeld Franz, because it's the only
• 49:12
  compelling part, because his his car chase is a car chase.
• 49:21
  He gets to use the buttons. He escapes from the meeting
• 49:25
  where he meets Blofeld. Blofeld calls him out in the
• 49:29
  meeting by name. Like it's it's, it is a pretty
• 49:33
  interesting moment because you're like, is there someone
• 49:36
  else named James? Like, can't blow your cover
• 49:39
  because maybe he's talking to someone else.
• 49:43
  And then, yeah. There's the car chase, the.
• 49:45
  Car chase with the the Jaguar that doesn't have any gadgets in
• 49:51
  it and Bond. Just has to chase him.
• 49:54
  Yep. Is he gonna catch him?
• 49:55
  Yeah, he's he's a much better driver than Bond.
• 49:59
  It's only through dumb luck that Bond is able to get away the two
• 50:03
  times that he does. One of those dumb lucks is that
• 50:07
  Q actually remembered to load something.
• 50:14
  Yeah, I get one point. Bond calls Manypenny and gets
• 50:18
  more information because he knows that Franz is there.
• 50:22
  I'm like, oh, I feel it's still supposed to be a mystery.
• 50:26
  Feels like oh, friends must be have been like a spy or like,
• 50:29
  you know, like a cue. And Bond is surprised to see
• 50:33
  him, so he checks to see if with many pennies if she can find
• 50:37
  him. But a little bit of the humor is
• 50:41
  that she has someone sleeping over, and Bond is somewhat
• 50:46
  surprised she's. Taken aback.
• 50:49
  The face is like of the guy who's never shown and I don't I
• 50:53
  I feel like it was halfway like set up to be some revealed, but
• 50:59
  we never find out who that person is.
• 51:01
  So it's like, OK, it was just a random, all right?
• 51:04
  It's just a reverse version of what the relationship used to be
• 51:08
  when Miss Moneypenny would call Bond and he would be actively
• 51:12
  sleeping with a woman. Now it's reversed, ha ha ha.
• 51:18
  I mean it makes the relationship a bit more complicated.
• 51:24
  So it's like a work workplace, some semi flirting.
• 51:32
  The previous movie I feel like they they were getting ready to
• 51:35
  get each other but this one is back to platonic with
• 51:40
  complications. Yeah.
• 51:42
  Oh, I figured out who he sent Miss Money to look for.
• 51:46
  I I remember now because it was related to something he heard in
• 51:50
  Mexico. It was the Pale King.
• 51:54
  Pale King, right? Yeah, Mr. White.
• 51:56
  Yeah, we got him back a third time.
• 51:59
  Their little meeting talks about killing the Pale King, and then
• 52:04
  they talk about James. I feel like it's I think you
• 52:11
  called Mr. White second in command.
• 52:13
  And I feel like he was so much cooler then.
• 52:16
  And in this one he's like exiled because he had a change of heart
• 52:21
  or something, I don't know. It's not fully explained.
• 52:24
  They might have tried to explain it it the way that Mister White
• 52:28
  describes it. It sounds as though eventually
• 52:32
  Blofeld got tired of him and was like, I'm ready for something
• 52:37
  new. I'm I'm done with this toy.
• 52:41
  You're doing 2 evil of things. No, I actually just.
• 52:44
  I'm tired. Yeah, I'm a little bored now.
• 52:46
  I'm going to give you cancer because you know, that's the
• 52:51
  other thing is he's dying, but he's not dying fast enough
• 52:56
  because they keep sending Hitman Hitman his way.
• 53:00
  But. But I feel like they must know
• 53:03
  where he lives. Bond figures out where he lives.
• 53:08
  I mean, I guess eventually Drax figures out where he lives,
• 53:14
  takes him a while. Before we get to Mr. White's
• 53:18
  house, we have to check in with M, who's at a voting meeting for
• 53:23
  this new security stuff. And Tanner, I was like, I didn't
• 53:27
  remember what? Did someone e-mail him the
• 53:32
  information about the car being in the water or was he just
• 53:35
  browsing the Internet during the season?
• 53:37
  I think someone messaged it to him but I don't know if we ever
• 53:40
  saw who it was who sent it to him because they were just like.
• 53:44
  That would have been funny, yeah.
• 53:45
  It's just like, are we sure that Bond is in is at his house or is
• 53:51
  under house arrest or whatever, and that's where Q lies for him.
• 53:57
  Yeah, and don't want to get mad about it.
• 54:00
  And that's the thing. M never follows up.
• 54:03
  M never follows up. Oh.
• 54:07
  Kind of doesn't have to do his job at all until they they
• 54:11
  confront Max. Yeah, but whatever, whatever
• 54:15
  we're we're in Austria now. It's.
• 54:18
  Yeah, I'm happy to move to Mr. White, even though I'm not too
• 54:22
  happy with this meeting. Like, Bond finds his house.
• 54:26
  They talk about how hard it is to be an assassin.
• 54:30
  Bond finds out that he's protecting his daughter.
• 54:33
  And then, like, I don't know, I didn't catch where he was
• 54:41
  unhealthy, like you said, cancer.
• 54:43
  But I'm like, oh, I don't. Oh yeah, he, I don't know.
• 54:47
  He mentions that they put Valium in his phone and it worked
• 54:54
  pretty quickly, but not fast enough.
• 54:56
  That's why he's got an IV bag with him and he looks so sickly
• 55:00
  the whole time. He did a good job of making him
• 55:03
  look. Sick.
• 55:05
  So he is a man who is on his way out.
• 55:07
  And what I will say to this movie's credit, we're going to
• 55:11
  see this scene twice in the movie.
• 55:16
  And the first time it plays normally as we are watching it
• 55:23
  as an audience, we're like, Yep, all of this is reasonable.
• 55:27
  Bond is coming in. He is making a deal.
• 55:30
  That deal involves protecting someone's daughter.
• 55:34
  Like, I, I'm OK with this. But later on in the movie,
• 55:39
  Blofeld will play at least the back half of this conversation
• 55:44
  back. And as you listen to it again,
• 55:47
  you start to realize, wait a minute, this wasn't reasonable
• 55:50
  at all. Like this lady was doing fine
• 55:55
  until Bond shows up because he is going to show up in the very
• 55:59
  next scene and that's going to ruin her life.
• 56:03
  Like he is the catalyst for ruining this woman's perfect
• 56:07
  life. She was perfectly hidden I
• 56:11
  guess, although I feel like if they had gone to kill this guy
• 56:15
  maybe they would have just gotten the information out of
• 56:17
  him and found her so. Maybe.
• 56:20
  And there was a percentage chance that he didn't ruin his
• 56:25
  life. I can agree that he did.
• 56:27
  Like, but that's, you know, I'm going to point to the fact that
• 56:30
  even in a really bad movie, there are still really good
• 56:33
  elements. And I think the Mr. White
• 56:36
  conversation is one of those things where, as I think about
• 56:39
  it, I'm like, that was a really good execution because I'm
• 56:45
  guilty as an audience member. I also thought this was a
• 56:49
  perfectly reasonable deal until I heard it delivered to Doctor
• 56:56
  Madeline Swan. And then I was like, oh, this
• 56:59
  deal sucks. I need information OK use my
• 57:05
  daughter to. Get the information.
• 57:07
  I'll even tell you where she is. Yeah, yeah.
• 57:13
  So I mean, I guess that does help add to the eventual
• 57:20
  conflict and resolution of their relationship, which is hurried,
• 57:24
  to say the least, because Mr. White does die, and Bond leaves
• 57:33
  to go find his daughter to get information.
• 57:37
  Bond says that he's there to protect her.
• 57:39
  She's kind of like, no, we're going to kick you out.
• 57:42
  So I, I mean, it's their first meeting, so we should probably
• 57:48
  consider if it's cool or not cool.
• 57:52
  I think it's pretty standard fare for Oh, I'm here to save
• 57:57
  you. You don't want to be saved.
• 57:59
  Well, we'll see how that works out for you.
• 58:02
  And then damsel in distress and playing car chase like it's not.
• 58:08
  It doesn't. Oh, I mean Q's there.
• 58:11
  That's pretty cool. A little bit of.
• 58:13
  I like that Q's there. He's not a lot of help.
• 58:16
  In fact, he's more a damsel in distress than help like.
• 58:24
  I don't think it. There's only a little bit of
• 58:28
  characterization of Bond talking about like, his parents dying in
• 58:33
  a climate accident. And I'm like, I feel like that
• 58:35
  is a lie, but I don't actually know.
• 58:39
  But it serves to set them up, I guess, a little bit.
• 58:44
  They're going to be a couple of the movie and I just don't feel
• 58:49
  it by the end of the. Movie.
• 58:51
  Oh man. I mean by the end, maybe a
• 58:53
  little bit, but. Yeah, I'll say by.
• 58:55
  The at the points where they want us to care, not yes.
• 58:58
  Exactly. By the end, I'm starting to get
• 59:02
  on board with their relationship, but all the way
• 59:05
  getting there. They even say they love each
• 59:08
  other at one point. Coming up very soon and I'm
• 59:11
  like, no you don't. You guys hate each other.
• 59:14
  Like, come on. If I didn't know there was
• 59:19
  another movie and they rode off into sunset like our
• 59:23
  Australians. Yeah.
• 59:25
  Then I could be like, oh, OK, like there's time to to fall in
• 59:32
  love and be with each other because Bond retires at the end
• 59:36
  of this movie. But there's another.
• 59:41
  Movie and it's good. She doesn't die.
• 59:43
  I have not seen the next movie. I I know she doesn't die in this
• 59:48
  movie, but I also know that she is in the next movie and that
• 59:52
  has made me think I don't. Know what her faith is.
• 59:56
  Like what? What else are we going to do
• 59:58
  with this story? Why do we have to keep doing
• 1:00:01
  sequels? Or if she had died at the end of
• 1:00:04
  this one, it would have had to have been Blofeld in a net cast
• 1:00:08
  and then I would have accepted. He he came back seemingly from
• 1:00:14
  the dead. For a second time.
• 1:00:19
  Yeah, I I do like when the security guards try to grab
• 1:00:25
  Bond. Bond only has to punch one of
• 1:00:28
  them and then he scolds the other one saying no stay.
• 1:00:34
  It's cute, it's funny, but it's definitely something that was
• 1:00:37
  meant to cater to a Gen. X audience 'cause I I remember
• 1:00:42
  some of my Gen. X friends being very tickled by
• 1:00:46
  that little exchange. Yeah, that's that, that sense of
• 1:00:54
  humor that has been injected in a couple of these spots, which
• 1:00:59
  doesn't feel like, you know, we wrapped production and here's
• 1:01:02
  some extra things we put in, like felt like they writing it,
• 1:01:07
  wanted Bond to have a little bit of quips that weren't just
• 1:01:11
  innuendos or pun. Yeah, things that were maybe a
• 1:01:13
  little more bad ass, maybe still funny.
• 1:01:16
  But, you know, here's Bond, and he's cool.
• 1:01:21
  Q, like I said, is another damsel.
• 1:01:23
  But Bond doesn't know it. He's on his own.
• 1:01:26
  There are two, dude. Well, it starts with one, but
• 1:01:29
  then a second dude gets in the gondola and they're literally
• 1:01:33
  gonna get him. Yeah.
• 1:01:34
  And that's all he does, is he? He waits for a moment and then
• 1:01:38
  runs away and slips into a janitor closet.
• 1:01:42
  And then he's free. He did it.
• 1:01:44
  He's the best at. Spy, I think I was thinking on
• 1:01:47
  those two assassins. I'm like, oh man, this is a bad
• 1:01:51
  like reputation for the Spectre is that this is not a spy.
• 1:01:56
  This is, yeah. This is a guy.
• 1:01:58
  That that. Tinkers.
• 1:02:00
  He doesn't. He's not a guy with guns.
• 1:02:03
  He'll build a gun. He'll make 10.
• 1:02:07
  Man, yeah, so that's that was like, Oh yeah, I'm glad he got
• 1:02:14
  away. Oh, Inspector kind of sucks at
• 1:02:16
  their job. Oh.
• 1:02:19
  But we finally figure out what Lamar car is.
• 1:02:23
  It's a. It's a Tangier, Yeah.
• 1:02:27
  It's ohh. A hand wave before we get to
• 1:02:28
  Tangier, Q meets all of them all together in a room.
• 1:02:32
  Wherever he is, his ring proves that Franz is alive.
• 1:02:36
  And it's like, how the hell does that ring prove that he's alive?
• 1:02:40
  It only proves. That doesn't make sense, He.
• 1:02:42
  Touched it at one point. He could have touched it when he
• 1:02:46
  was alive before the avalanche. What I got from the ring is that
• 1:02:52
  it's made of some element that all of these guys had in their
• 1:02:55
  toxicology on on their autopsies.
• 1:02:59
  And it's like, OK, but that doesn't link back to France.
• 1:03:05
  And how does that put him at the top of the organization?
• 1:03:07
  Let's hand wave it and say yeah. It's the way it is, yeah.
• 1:03:13
  So dislike the hand waving that has happened several times
• 1:03:18
  already. But Lemerican is a place where
• 1:03:22
  her Mr. White Father and what would you call it?
• 1:03:28
  What would be a good companion to Mr. White?
• 1:03:33
  The queen? I don't know.
• 1:03:35
  Mr. White sounds like a king from the chess set that's on
• 1:03:38
  his. They spent their honeymoon and
• 1:03:41
  their anniversaries there in this very room.
• 1:03:45
  And it's like, OK. I guess eventually Mr. White
• 1:03:49
  bought the building and then eventually they got a divorce
• 1:03:53
  and Madeline went off with her mother.
• 1:03:57
  But Mr. White kept the building and obviously did some
• 1:04:02
  renovations to his favorite room like.
• 1:04:05
  His favorite room got renovations that didn't include
• 1:04:08
  a secret door. But.
• 1:04:10
  There is a doorway that you can punch through.
• 1:04:13
  So how did he? Use it?
• 1:04:15
  No. What is the deal with that?
• 1:04:18
  Another hand wave. I'm like.
• 1:04:21
  Bond tears the place apart. They have a little bit of a
• 1:04:25
  banter and tussle and she's drunk and he's drunk because
• 1:04:28
  they can't find. Bond manages to bust through the
• 1:04:31
  wall because a mouse goes through it.
• 1:04:34
  But I was stuck on wall. He boarded up that doorway when
• 1:04:41
  when he like. I mean, to the movies defense, I
• 1:04:45
  would say when he had fully moved out of LA Marcon, that
• 1:04:52
  would have been when he would have boarded up the room for the
• 1:04:54
  last time, you know, fully, I guess painted and did everything
• 1:04:59
  and then it's just hidden away forever.
• 1:05:01
  Except he always knows that should he need it, he's got all
• 1:05:05
  of this evidence packed away. He's.
• 1:05:07
  Got like, see ever somebody knocks it down and finds it
• 1:05:12
  like, yeah, it's like, OK, the bat cave just, you know, behind
• 1:05:17
  one. Wall, it's silly.
• 1:05:18
  It's I don't love it. What I do love is the combative
• 1:05:25
  relationship between Bond and Madeline, where Bond, it's all
• 1:05:32
  right. Like he thinks, you know, I'm
• 1:05:34
  Bond, I'm I sleep with everyone and she is like, you are scum
• 1:05:39
  and I hate you. And I enjoyed that.
• 1:05:46
  Like I said, I don't know if I fully believe that they fall in
• 1:05:49
  love when they supposedly fall in love, but at least at this
• 1:05:55
  moment, I'm like, OK, that was a good scene between these two.
• 1:06:01
  I believed it. I found it interesting to watch.
• 1:06:07
  And then, yeah, then Bond is making all this noise in the
• 1:06:10
  middle of the night. What a jerk.
• 1:06:15
  Bang. I mean, we did skip over the
• 1:06:17
  plane attack. Oh yeah.
• 1:06:19
  It is. Dave Bautista is dead, but
• 1:06:22
  that's. Right.
• 1:06:23
  It's also when we see Dave Bautista's double barrel pistol,
• 1:06:29
  which is. Which is the nice part.
• 1:06:30
  Of that I was going to say it's his other interesting character
• 1:06:34
  feature, but it also stops showing up in the movie after
• 1:06:38
  this. He has it we don't need.
• 1:06:41
  It anymore. You know he has.
• 1:06:43
  It we know he's got steel thumbs and a double barrel pistol.
• 1:06:48
  He's not going to use either of those for the rest of the movie,
• 1:06:51
  but we know he has them. Who has a double barrel pistol
• 1:06:56
  and two? 1000 and this guy, apparently
• 1:06:59
  his name is Hinx and I don't think they ever named him in.
• 1:07:03
  The movie? No, I don't think.
• 1:07:04
  So that's something we got out of the credits.
• 1:07:07
  If if anyone knew his name, 'cause he is never named once.
• 1:07:14
  But yeah, well, maybe he might have been named after he died.
• 1:07:18
  I don't know. I don't remember that part but.
• 1:07:22
  He goes through the windshield but doesn't.
• 1:07:24
  That this time he lives through his near death experience.
• 1:07:29
  I'm going to say to the movies credit, it is kind of fun to
• 1:07:33
  watch a plane falling apart. But the part that lost me and it
• 1:07:38
  is towards the end of the chase, it is when the plane finally
• 1:07:42
  crashes into the car. There's a huge fireball and
• 1:07:47
  explosion. And just like that Timothy
• 1:07:53
  Dalton movie where the airplane exploded in a car and a
• 1:07:57
  character was unscathed, Bond is completely unscathed by his
• 1:08:03
  plane exploding. And I'm just like, oh, that
• 1:08:06
  makes me so angry. Like, I was totally fine with
• 1:08:10
  just living in your world for this entire chase sequence and
• 1:08:15
  the destruction of this plane. But if you're gonna have a giant
• 1:08:19
  fireball that's got to kill, that's got to kill a thing,
• 1:08:24
  dudes got to die. Yeah, I it won't be the last
• 1:08:29
  time something explodes and make you that ending of the movie is
• 1:08:35
  just I know that it's so you get the final choice, but man, we'll
• 1:08:44
  get to it anyway. We are back to the room of their
• 1:08:48
  anniversary stuff. She sees that her dad had
• 1:08:53
  pictures of her and even though she was disgusted with his work,
• 1:08:57
  she feels nice that he had those.
• 1:09:01
  You did love me. Yeah, this assassin guy
• 1:09:05
  actually, you know, like Homer Simpson, you have pictures of
• 1:09:09
  your family at work. He just had pictures of his
• 1:09:12
  family on the wall where he planned his hits, you know, So
• 1:09:20
  they find the room and find the stuff.
• 1:09:22
  Yeah, and apparently they. Find they.
• 1:09:24
  Find the map that that tells them about the crater.
• 1:09:28
  Oh, right, the. Crater because they, I don't OK
• 1:09:35
  I, I light a little bit. The smart blood thing does come
• 1:09:39
  into play when Q is like they're on a train heading in this
• 1:09:43
  direction and every map says there's nothing here.
• 1:09:47
  But if I look at this map, it's a whole crater with a facility
• 1:09:50
  and blah blah blah. And but that's the scene where
• 1:09:53
  they're like, you got to kill the, the smart blood program
• 1:09:55
  delete everything. So like when it finally comes
• 1:09:59
  into play, they kill it. Like, uh yeah.
• 1:10:05
  It's yeah, I agree with that. But you know, they do have that
• 1:10:10
  entire train sequence. I really I don't know how to say
• 1:10:17
  her name, but the actress playing Madeline Swan.
• 1:10:22
  Leah Yeah, I don't. Know Leah sedu sedu sedu.
• 1:10:27
  I think it might be Sea Doo 'cause I think I heard it and I
• 1:10:30
  was like, like the jet ski. I think she is just like every
• 1:10:37
  other Bond girl in this franchise.
• 1:10:39
  I think she's gorgeous except on the train with the really dark
• 1:10:44
  red lipstick and the heavy makeup.
• 1:10:48
  I don't think it compliments this particular actress.
• 1:10:52
  And it kind of makes me think like, even with the most
• 1:10:55
  beautiful woman in the world, if you still try to over bond her,
• 1:11:00
  you'll it doesn't always work. And that to me is this, this
• 1:11:05
  train sequence where I'm like, wow.
• 1:11:07
  I mean, the train sequence as a whole is to get them to the
• 1:11:13
  crater where Dave Bautista shows up, to stop them from going to,
• 1:11:21
  well, the crater where Blofeld is Wayne.
• 1:11:24
  Hills. On purpose.
• 1:11:26
  Dave Bautista will show up on the train, so presumably he is
• 1:11:32
  still on that mission, that original mission, which was to
• 1:11:38
  take care of all the loose ends. No more mistakes, even if
• 1:11:44
  Blofeld is waiting for Bond. I think in Drax's head, if he
• 1:11:52
  doesn't kill Bond first, he will be killed when Bond gets there.
• 1:11:58
  That that might be giving this movie too much credit, but
• 1:12:01
  that's at least where my head was.
• 1:12:05
  Yeah, I mean, it's they before he shows up, they have a little
• 1:12:11
  bit of dinner and chitchat, but he shows up like really fast.
• 1:12:16
  Yeah, like, they barely get their drinks at the end of
• 1:12:20
  dinner and he asked them to leave the the shiny shaker.
• 1:12:25
  And then like a minute later is when we look through the shaker
• 1:12:29
  to see Dave Bautista charging up the the aisle way.
• 1:12:37
  And then he kicks the table. And not even that bond.
• 1:12:42
  It's long enough for them to get existential and say, bon, do you
• 1:12:46
  really want to do this for the rest of your life?
• 1:12:48
  This seems like a good movie to hang it all up.
• 1:12:52
  Except the next movies. Yeah, we.
• 1:12:54
  Can't hang it all up just yet. Just yet I I don't love the
• 1:13:00
  start of this fight sequence, but once it gets going and I am
• 1:13:07
  fine with the fact that none of his gimmicks matter anymore and
• 1:13:11
  it's just a big strong man fighting Bond, it's a pretty fun
• 1:13:16
  fight. I enjoy that.
• 1:13:19
  It looked like Bond and Bautista, a couple like Craig
• 1:13:23
  and Batista. It it looked like they had them
• 1:13:27
  do a couple of fun, you know, phantom punches and it had some
• 1:13:33
  stunt people because you're not going to toss Bond to the wall,
• 1:13:39
  but. It did.
• 1:13:40
  It's it's a very good, mostly up close fist fight.
• 1:13:45
  At one point, Madeline re enters with a pistol.
• 1:13:49
  She takes a shot at at Drax. I'm never going to call him
• 1:13:54
  Hinks because like, why? The movie doesn't call.
• 1:14:00
  Him hits him in the shoulder and then he goes into hiding mode.
• 1:14:06
  In a train, how did he do that? Yeah, like, and he's huge big,
• 1:14:10
  but it it's effective at the same time, like because she's
• 1:14:14
  panicking and just blind firing until she's out of rounds and
• 1:14:18
  that's when he makes his appearance again.
• 1:14:22
  There are some elements to this character that could have been
• 1:14:25
  so cool, but they waited until this fight to show us any of
• 1:14:31
  them. Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's a
• 1:14:37
  decent send off for the only henchman that had a name in the
• 1:14:41
  credits. Well, I guess Max is a henchman,
• 1:14:45
  but it seems like Blofeld calls him like, you know, an
• 1:14:50
  acquaintance. So this is where.
• 1:14:52
  It works for me. This is where.
• 1:14:54
  I get pedantic. I tend to think that the people
• 1:14:58
  who work for the main boss and who are autonomous and able to
• 1:15:03
  make decisions, those are lackeys.
• 1:15:07
  And then the people who only get their orders from the boss and
• 1:15:11
  never get to make their own decisions and only do the job
• 1:15:15
  they were told to do, I think those are the hench men.
• 1:15:19
  OK, so I'm going to I'm going to put Max firmly in the lackey
• 1:15:23
  category, whereas Drax goes into the hench men category.
• 1:15:32
  OK. I mean, I could see that being a
• 1:15:35
  good delineation of who is responsible and called what.
• 1:15:40
  So Henchman has a name that we don't know.
• 1:15:44
  Lackey has a name that we are introduced to and has some
• 1:15:47
  lights. Yeah, oh, man.
• 1:15:51
  And we're going to eventually get to more of his lines, which
• 1:15:55
  makes me so angry, so sad. Well, well, we got.
• 1:15:59
  To get through them. I was going to say we got to
• 1:16:01
  kill off Hinks. We've been dancing around it for
• 1:16:05
  so long. So let's let's go ahead and tie
• 1:16:07
  a rope around his neck. I guess he may have been going
• 1:16:11
  in for another eye gouging with. Yeah, he was strangling.
• 1:16:16
  He wasn't even trying to gouge out the eyes of Madeline, so he
• 1:16:21
  never uses those thumbs. Like he just uses them once and
• 1:16:25
  then we just forget about them. If it were true to Jazz's
• 1:16:29
  history, could have used them to cut anything, Yeah anything, and
• 1:16:33
  show us that they are ridiculous thumbnails to have.
• 1:16:37
  But no, we see him once and then like the movie remembers he has
• 1:16:42
  them at one point but doesn't use them.
• 1:16:45
  Yeah, even when they are the views, they're not super
• 1:16:48
  effective. It takes like 10 seconds for the
• 1:16:50
  guy to die. He has to break his neck.
• 1:16:53
  He didn't even get to use his thumbs to do it.
• 1:16:57
  Oh man. Anyway, we're we're harping on
• 1:17:00
  the guy because he gets tossed out with some beer kegs.
• 1:17:04
  It's such an unceremonious death, but whatever.
• 1:17:09
  Fine, I have expected him to show up again.
• 1:17:14
  I was like that. There's no way he's dead off of
• 1:17:16
  that. But I guess he's dead.
• 1:17:19
  He's for reals gone. He's dead and we're alive and
• 1:17:24
  wouldn't you know it carpe that diem when you're alive because
• 1:17:29
  apparently it always seems odd when they're like near death
• 1:17:33
  experience where we should go do it and like it's a little bit
• 1:17:40
  less creepy. It feels like there's a little
• 1:17:43
  bit more of a like shared vibe, like they like each other.
• 1:17:48
  It's like, OK, this isn't all creepy, Bond.
• 1:17:52
  Yeah, they kept each other alive.
• 1:17:54
  You know, they literally just survived a hit, man.
• 1:17:58
  So yeah, I think that would put me in the mood, especially if
• 1:18:02
  one of my partners was a super spy.
• 1:18:05
  Because remember, super spies are super horny.
• 1:18:09
  Super super. When everybody's super.
• 1:18:12
  Yeah, like I think it rubs off on you.
• 1:18:16
  Sure. Oh, so I mean that that
• 1:18:22
  solidifies their relationship as they head on their way to a
• 1:18:27
  building that doesn't have anything like they get off the
• 1:18:31
  train. I This is another one of those
• 1:18:35
  shots that I think is stunning to look at.
• 1:18:38
  This movie doesn't have a lot going for it, and this is one of
• 1:18:43
  those shots that really stands out when it's just the two of
• 1:18:46
  them in the desert at this train station alone.
• 1:18:52
  I, I don't know, I, I find it striking.
• 1:18:55
  I think it looks so interesting, but they're not there for long.
• 1:19:00
  Like we, we don't get to revel in it or anything.
• 1:19:04
  Bond gets the spot exactly What Car it is that's coming back to
• 1:19:09
  him. Like, is that like a reference
• 1:19:11
  to this Franz's guy's family heritage did?
• 1:19:16
  Is this the car that he killed his father with?
• 1:19:20
  Nope, I don't know, just cool car and Bond knows what it is.
• 1:19:26
  OK, they're going to go out to wherever his places get
• 1:19:33
  disarmed. And like, I don't know, it
• 1:19:39
  doesn't the amount of danger that it feels like they're
• 1:19:45
  putting themselves in doesn't match their their state of what
• 1:19:51
  do you, what do you call it? Like readiness?
• 1:19:55
  But at least they don't, they don't drink the champagne, so
• 1:19:59
  they're not drunk while they going into this dangerous
• 1:20:02
  situation. But that doesn't help them very
• 1:20:05
  much anyway. I think it was right around here
• 1:20:09
  where I started noticing just how often the camera has like
• 1:20:14
  zoomed in or panned or zoomed out super slowly, imperceptible
• 1:20:20
  slowly. They really wanted to chew up
• 1:20:25
  that that film let us sure really use every dollar.
• 1:20:31
  We're going to film this thing on actual film.
• 1:20:34
  And it's expensive. And I don't know if they
• 1:20:36
  actually filmed it on real film, but yeah, like, they're so
• 1:20:42
  cavalier for the amount of danger that they are in.
• 1:20:46
  They, they get to see a meteorite that has fallen on
• 1:20:50
  Earth. I do enjoy that little exchange
• 1:20:54
  when Blofeld reveals himself and they're talking and, and he's
• 1:20:59
  like this unstoppable force coming to Earth and bond is
• 1:21:06
  like, but then it was stopped, right?
• 1:21:08
  Like that's, that's its most defining feature is that it's
• 1:21:12
  stopped. And I, I love that line because
• 1:21:17
  I thought about it all the time. I was like, wow, Like, even for
• 1:21:21
  all the damage that a meteor could do, if it hits the Earth,
• 1:21:25
  it does stop. Like it does reach a point where
• 1:21:29
  it can't go any further. We win.
• 1:21:32
  Yeah. Is it that part?
• 1:21:37
  So then he walks them away from that meteor.
• 1:21:41
  This, he's not like this place is information on it.
• 1:21:44
  It's like out in the middle of the desert.
• 1:21:47
  How do you get your information beamed to you?
• 1:21:50
  I guess what sort of infrastructure exists to get all
• 1:21:54
  this information to you he's got?
• 1:21:56
  The best satellites that have ever existed?
• 1:21:59
  Nobody. Nobody knows about it, just.
• 1:22:04
  His total secret? But yeah, we get him to reveal
• 1:22:08
  everything. Like, yes, he used to be Franz
• 1:22:11
  Oberhauser, but now he's earned Stavro.
• 1:22:15
  Stavro Blofeld, a name that means nothing in this universe.
• 1:22:19
  Sure. And he only says that after he's
• 1:22:22
  knocked out James because back in the room where he shows
• 1:22:26
  Madeline the tape of her dad, he also shows the tape of M
• 1:22:32
  resigning at MI 6. And then he also like hits a
• 1:22:38
  switch or everybody had rehearsed.
• 1:22:42
  The lights go out and everyone stands up and I'm immediately
• 1:22:46
  thrown back to the space station.
• 1:22:49
  I don't remember the bad guy's name, but everybody's standing
• 1:22:52
  to attention to get the latest information from our.
• 1:22:55
  Head The name was Drax too I think.
• 1:22:58
  Unironically, his name was Drax. I have no idea.
• 1:23:04
  I just know he wanted to shoot viruses into the earth from
• 1:23:08
  space, but everybody was in the same jumpsuit.
• 1:23:11
  This one, the lights go out and everybody stands to attention
• 1:23:14
  and they knock out James. And now he's in another torture
• 1:23:20
  device. It's.
• 1:23:22
  My least favorite torture device in the fact that I don't think I
• 1:23:27
  don't rate it poorly. I would be terrified to be.
• 1:23:33
  Oh yeah, yeah, being on the receiving end, No, thank you.
• 1:23:38
  But it seems like it's only effective the first time it's
• 1:23:42
  used. That or the movie Lies to us.
• 1:23:48
  I OK this torture sequence and I'm going to jump straight to
• 1:23:53
  it. He says that if he targets a
• 1:23:56
  very specific nerve, he can stop Bond from recognizing faces for
• 1:24:01
  the rest of his life. There are people who are face
• 1:24:04
  blind. They don't recognize people's
• 1:24:08
  faces. It's very rare.
• 1:24:11
  So most people who say that they are face blind are lying to you
• 1:24:15
  and they're just, you know, arrogant.
• 1:24:17
  But there are some people where they'll recognize you as they
• 1:24:22
  are talking to you, but once you walk away, your face kind of
• 1:24:27
  blurs in their head and they can no longer pick you out in a
• 1:24:30
  crowd. So they're saying if we hit this
• 1:24:34
  nerve, that's going to happen to you.
• 1:24:37
  They hit that nerve and he's like, all right, go and see your
• 1:24:42
  lover who is never going to recognize your face again and
• 1:24:46
  she's. Like, yeah.
• 1:24:47
  She's like, I love you and he's like, of course I recognize you
• 1:24:51
  or whatever and he's able to pass off the bomb, blah blah
• 1:24:53
  blah blah blah. But for the rest of the movie
• 1:24:56
  I'm watching him being like, does he really recognize people
• 1:25:01
  or is he taking guesses as to who he is speaking to?
• 1:25:06
  I think he recognizes people because it didn't work, because
• 1:25:10
  his brain stem is just that powerful.
• 1:25:13
  Yep, he's just that strong. Like there you can have fun
• 1:25:18
  watching it and trying to convince yourself that he
• 1:25:22
  doesn't actually recognize anyone, but it's it's fleeting
• 1:25:25
  because he absolutely recognizes everyone.
• 1:25:28
  It didn't work. It was a whole speech that was
• 1:25:31
  nothing, the big nothing burger like so much of this movie.
• 1:25:37
  So I mean, this is where he does say the name, but he does talk
• 1:25:41
  about, oh, this is the clever reveal of I am actually Bond's
• 1:25:46
  adoptive family brother. And I was so mad that, you know
• 1:25:52
  what birds do when another bird comes in, They push the original
• 1:25:56
  bird out of the nest. So I knew I had to kill my dad.
• 1:25:59
  Like, whoa, You might actually be just unhinged.
• 1:26:04
  OK. So yeah, this oh boy, his
• 1:26:11
  obsession with his father's love and the fact that his father was
• 1:26:16
  sharing his love with this traumatized child.
• 1:26:20
  It's not a very compelling bit of motivation, but we do
• 1:26:24
  essentially get AI am your brother reveal in this movie.
• 1:26:31
  And oh boy, oh boy, I can't wait to watch some movies from the
• 1:26:38
  mid to early, well, the early 2000s.
• 1:26:43
  Spectre is 2015. We have to keep remembering.
• 1:26:48
  They are they. It's just they have become a
• 1:26:52
  parody of themselves. Saying that Blofeld is Bond's
• 1:26:56
  brother is the joke that other people have made to parody Bond
• 1:27:02
  where they're like, what if it was Bond but also Star Wars?
• 1:27:05
  Wouldn't that be funny? And now Bond has said it's like
• 1:27:09
  Bond and Star Wars. It's family, they have a reason
• 1:27:14
  to hate you. OK, I think last bit about the
• 1:27:22
  last details enjoyment of the torture scene would be how awful
• 1:27:28
  the whirring and crunching and screaming all sound together.
• 1:27:33
  I've sensed Casino Royale that has not been as visceral as that
• 1:27:38
  ends that he does it again and then he almost gets Bond's eyes
• 1:27:43
  and it's like, I am so uncomfortable.
• 1:27:47
  This looks so terrifying I can't even focus.
• 1:27:50
  Like I know. The freaking watch, Madeline.
• 1:27:55
  I know that I watched the that scene before I watched this
• 1:27:59
  again and I missed the brother revealed because I was.
• 1:28:05
  So uncomfortable, you were too busy squirming about eyeballs
• 1:28:09
  getting drilled into, which is quite effective.
• 1:28:13
  But yeah. And then of course the watch is
• 1:28:16
  a bomb because the alarm is very loud.
• 1:28:19
  Har har har. Yeah, kaboom.
• 1:28:23
  This does. It kills Blofeld.
• 1:28:25
  Yeah, like we do see the blood from his face when he lands on
• 1:28:30
  the ground. It's only like a split second,
• 1:28:32
  but we do see what happens. Yeah, he's definitely 100% dead.
• 1:28:39
  No way Blofeld is coming back in this movie.
• 1:28:42
  That's impossible. He's so named.
• 1:28:44
  Bond and. Madeleine Swan, Dr. Madeleine.
• 1:28:49
  They're able to kind of shoot their way out to a helicopter
• 1:28:53
  that's waning and prepped for the.
• 1:28:55
  Yeah, there were two of them waiting like they had their pit
• 1:28:58
  feels. So anticlimactic that we are
• 1:29:02
  moving on to this next. Oh we got to save MI 6.
• 1:29:07
  We just met and tortured Bond and beat the guy that was the
• 1:29:12
  tortured. We just with a single bullet
• 1:29:15
  shot to the right canister, we just blew up his entire base and
• 1:29:20
  information hub. Oh yeah.
• 1:29:23
  Is that? Oh no, well, I mean, that's the
• 1:29:24
  one. I'm not.
• 1:29:25
  I didn't get mad at that one. But yes, that also happened.
• 1:29:28
  Why did the rest of the place blow up when they're getting on
• 1:29:30
  the helicopter? Because he hit the right gas
• 1:29:35
  tank I guess. Because it needed to blow up
• 1:29:40
  like, OK. Fine, we do see a couple of
• 1:29:43
  vehicles driving away from the exploding building, so clearly
• 1:29:49
  someone has made it out. At least two drivers made it
• 1:29:54
  out. Yeah, I I did see that and was
• 1:29:59
  like, oh, I mean, that's that's nice little Easter egg of OK,
• 1:30:04
  Blofeld isn't actually dead. You lied to me, Justin.
• 1:30:09
  How would you lie to me? I mean, yeah, they make their
• 1:30:19
  way back to England to talk to M, who's got a timer on Q's
• 1:30:24
  computer saying this is when the next information thing will take
• 1:30:27
  over. We've got to stop it.
• 1:30:29
  It's like, so yes, it was attached to Blofeld stuff, but
• 1:30:36
  Blofeld's dead now. That's what the movie is telling
• 1:30:39
  us. He's dead now.
• 1:30:40
  Like we still do have to turn it off, but like it it, it's a
• 1:30:45
  button. Like you will turn it off and
• 1:30:48
  then be done. And on top of that, he has
• 1:30:52
  resigned and he has been shut down.
• 1:30:56
  So he's a vigilante at this point.
• 1:30:59
  If M is going in to stop C in the Nine Eyes program, yeah,
• 1:31:10
  he's he's now a bad guy. That's how I'm reading M and MI
• 1:31:15
  6 on this mission. They're criminals, They're
• 1:31:18
  criminals. They need everybody that they
• 1:31:22
  have to do something. Maybe Tanner doesn't do
• 1:31:25
  anything. I can't remember seeing.
• 1:31:27
  I think he drives. With something.
• 1:31:30
  Oh yeah, because like the Bond and Emma are in the front car
• 1:31:34
  and they get kidnapped but M gets away.
• 1:31:37
  Yeah, but that in the most impossible getaway of all
• 1:31:41
  getaways. He's knocked out, but guess
• 1:31:43
  what? He runs down a tunnel.
• 1:31:45
  Yes, and no one saw him. No one hears the echo of the
• 1:31:49
  feet sprinting down the tunnel. Oh my gosh.
• 1:31:53
  But he got away good for. Him hand waving like it's just
• 1:31:58
  impossible. How many things happened then?
• 1:32:01
  It's not that they're impossible to actually have been done, but
• 1:32:05
  they shouldn't have happened. Or at least it should have been
• 1:32:09
  a little more justified with the way that they had done it.
• 1:32:12
  But I do love after Bond has been kidnapped and they are
• 1:32:18
  trying to deliver him somewhere, one of the villains, one of the
• 1:32:23
  Hinchman like, pulls his gun too close and Bond just strikes like
• 1:32:28
  a Viper. Like he just, yeah, moves so
• 1:32:31
  fast. And I, I like it.
• 1:32:33
  I really like Daniel Craig as James Bond.
• 1:32:37
  I think he just carries this role so well and then he like
• 1:32:41
  completes it by tearing off his his CG plastic handcuffs, the
• 1:32:47
  zip tie handcuffs that are made out of computer graphics.
• 1:32:53
  I mean, I think on the Cinemasins channel, I did watch
• 1:32:57
  the winds of this one and they're like, you can't actually
• 1:33:00
  break them. It's like, well, I don't know
• 1:33:01
  that they actually said. You can 100% you can.
• 1:33:07
  Or at least someone can. Daniel Craig did not.
• 1:33:13
  Yeah, I mean they, they kidnapped him to take him to MI
• 1:33:20
  6, which is empty, where yet again Blofeld is waiting for
• 1:33:25
  him. And waiting for him to show up
• 1:33:27
  alone like. Yeah, if they got themselves
• 1:33:31
  killed for the plan, they could have just dropped him off.
• 1:33:35
  They didn't have to escort him. Yeah, they could have just taken
• 1:33:38
  off his hood, got back in whatever vehicle they were in
• 1:33:41
  and just drove away and been like, all right, you're on your
• 1:33:45
  own. And he still tears off the zip
• 1:33:47
  tie on his own. But no, they had to be the
• 1:33:50
  sacrificial lambs for this climax.
• 1:33:55
  Mean it. I feel like Bond is going there
• 1:34:01
  but I don't understand who said Bond you should go to the
• 1:34:04
  building because we are going to Max's place to stop the
• 1:34:09
  software. He's only going there because
• 1:34:11
  that's where they dropped him off the kid hopers.
• 1:34:14
  He's just walking forward. Like, he's doing the arrogant
• 1:34:19
  thing that Bond has done this entire franchise, which is to
• 1:34:22
  like, blink a couple of times and then just start walking
• 1:34:25
  forward. Yeah, So eventually he goes
• 1:34:31
  through all these like cell blocks where pictures are taped
• 1:34:35
  up and there's all sorts of red thread, which is just detonator
• 1:34:39
  chord. But it's I was like this, if
• 1:34:42
  this building was going to get demolished, they wouldn't have
• 1:34:46
  left the charges there. So Blofeld, between dying and
• 1:34:50
  now, set them all up and strung it all around to somebody.
• 1:34:56
  I mean, he had hundreds of people in the balcony watching
• 1:35:00
  his super secret meeting in Rome.
• 1:35:03
  I'm sure he could find a dozen of them to string up some
• 1:35:07
  explosives. For one more confrontation with
• 1:35:12
  Bond. I like his scar.
• 1:35:15
  I like the Blofeld facial scar. It matches the original Blofeld
• 1:35:21
  a little nicely. The first time we saw his face.
• 1:35:25
  Now, none of the subsequent Blofeld had a facial scar like
• 1:35:30
  it is important to note that it was really only the You Only
• 1:35:34
  Live Twice Blofeld. The very first time we saw his
• 1:35:38
  full face that he had a scar and no other time.
• 1:35:43
  And yet this movie's like, no, that is the defining feature.
• 1:35:48
  We must make an origin story for it, yes.
• 1:35:52
  It's so it's so important, but it looks cool.
• 1:35:56
  I forgive it. I like it.
• 1:35:58
  Behind bulletproof glass tells Bond that Madeleine's here
• 1:36:02
  somewhere. I'm leaving.
• 1:36:04
  You got 3 minutes. Good luck, He.
• 1:36:07
  Finds Madeline to escape and it's like.
• 1:36:10
  Oh, and here's the thing, the whole time he's doing that, M&Q
• 1:36:15
  are alone dealing with Max and, you know, bringing down the Nine
• 1:36:20
  Eyes Network. They're being the real heroes of
• 1:36:23
  this movie. Yep, I mean that was what like
• 1:36:27
  Bond had already killed both L once so she got to do it again.
• 1:36:32
  Oh man, I do like when Bond is like you're a hard man to kill.
• 1:36:36
  Like it's a good line. And then on the other end of 1
• 1:36:41
  liners, I hate when Max, I hate calling him C, but he reaches
• 1:36:49
  for his gun in his desk and he tries to pull the trigger, but
• 1:36:52
  there's there's nothing in there.
• 1:36:53
  It's it's empty and M is like, I guess we know what the C stands
• 1:36:58
  for, which we absolutely do. We do know what the C stands for
• 1:37:03
  and it is not careless, which is what M says.
• 1:37:10
  Oh gosh, such a lame line like. See and they did add like time
• 1:37:17
  for the other characters. Didn't mean that it had a good
• 1:37:23
  so I appreciate knowing more about their personalities, but
• 1:37:27
  it didn't. Maybe don't need them so much.
• 1:37:32
  Yeah, yeah. We have so many minutes in this
• 1:37:34
  movie. Too many minutes in this movie.
• 1:37:38
  Well, Bond will eventually find the girl, which is good.
• 1:37:43
  She has to bang and make noise because just like the Joker,
• 1:37:49
  Blofeld cheats at his games and he hid Swan behind some steel
• 1:37:57
  stuff. Oh.
• 1:37:59
  No. Yeah.
• 1:38:00
  How will he ever find her? With the banging of her feet.
• 1:38:05
  Thank goodness for that. We're coming up on my least
• 1:38:09
  favorite part and I'm so mad that it's like the way that the
• 1:38:14
  end happened so well are escaping but.
• 1:38:18
  I'm going to say my it's not my least favorite part.
• 1:38:22
  I we've probably already long since past my least fail I I I
• 1:38:27
  don't even know if I have a least favorite.
• 1:38:29
  There's a lot of things that keep piling up and for me the MI
• 1:38:35
  6 is getting demolished and everything has been cleared out
• 1:38:39
  except for a boat apparently. One boat?
• 1:38:41
  Yeah, it's there. Who knows why?
• 1:38:45
  That's how Bluefield got in. He turned it around.
• 1:38:47
  There we go. Except he was taking a
• 1:38:50
  helicopter away. I I get so angry when we see
• 1:38:54
  Bond and Madeline on the boat escaping MI 6 because I'm like
• 1:38:59
  OK what else was left in there? Like, what other gadgets did
• 1:39:04
  they have that we didn't know about?
• 1:39:06
  Like. Listen, Brosnan got a boat.
• 1:39:08
  Yeah, everybody gets a boat. We all gotta have a boat.
• 1:39:14
  Something like that. The boat, they are on it and
• 1:39:20
  Bond knows that Wolf holds in a helicopter that he can see and
• 1:39:25
  he shoots about what, 7 times? Enough to reload because he does
• 1:39:30
  fully reload at one point. I didn't notice that.
• 1:39:34
  Well, he doesn't reload. He empties his first gun and
• 1:39:39
  then reaches into his pocket for the PPK for his real gun.
• 1:39:46
  That just seems like such an impossible shot that's.
• 1:39:50
  Why he needed the PPK? Yeah, it only needs to happen
• 1:39:55
  because we need to confront Blofeld and not kill him if the
• 1:40:00
  helicopter crash had killed him, Chucks.
• 1:40:04
  But we need the helicopter to crash beautifully.
• 1:40:09
  And we've bond with the decision to be an assassin for the Her
• 1:40:14
  Majesty's Government or be with Madeline and.
• 1:40:20
  Bond chooses Madeline for fun I guess.
• 1:40:23
  Yeah, I guess. Oh, golly.
• 1:40:28
  It's it's not great, I'm going to tell you that much.
• 1:40:33
  I I really don't like this ending.
• 1:40:36
  I don't like the way it plays out.
• 1:40:39
  I don't like the way it looks. I don't I I don't see it as the
• 1:40:46
  big choice. I genuinely don't see him as
• 1:40:50
  making the call to quit as it were.
• 1:40:53
  Because while they are still allies, M gives this whole
• 1:40:59
  lecture to Max about how a a license to kill is also a
• 1:41:04
  license to not kill, to know when to not pull the trigger.
• 1:41:10
  And so apparently I'm supposed to believe that this is him
• 1:41:13
  refusing his job and giving up his position.
• 1:41:17
  No, M told me himself that this is part of the job, is not
• 1:41:22
  killing someone like. Yeah, I mean, it's unclear that
• 1:41:27
  Bond is choosing to exit, that Bond is choosing to not work
• 1:41:35
  with MI 6 anymore. But then we get one last scene
• 1:41:40
  with Bond going to Q&Q being like, oh, you're I thought you'd
• 1:41:47
  be gone. Sure, that's also vague, like
• 1:41:50
  you could have gone on vacation, but I swear this movie was too
• 1:41:57
  end Daniel Craig's Bond. See, and here's the thing, they
• 1:42:01
  had already signed him for two more movies with this one being
• 1:42:05
  the first of two. So the film makers themselves
• 1:42:09
  knew that there was going to be one more movie.
• 1:42:12
  There was a contract for one more movie.
• 1:42:14
  Like why did they make it so final?
• 1:42:19
  It seemed so like, Oh well, you chose the lady.
• 1:42:24
  And nothing is suggesting that it's a cliffhanger, which some
• 1:42:29
  people don't like. Sure, it seems appropriate.
• 1:42:32
  If you know there's another movie already coming, then yes,
• 1:42:37
  you can do a cliffhanger because we know there's a second part.
• 1:42:42
  Yep, Yep. Then, unfortunately, the 25th
• 1:42:47
  movie was hit with several delays because we're looking at
• 1:42:52
  2015 for Spectre and 2021 for No Time to Die.
• 1:42:57
  That's a six year gap with the same actor between movies.
• 1:43:03
  We have never seen that before. See, I wonder maybe when we
• 1:43:07
  watch it, if they do be like, yeah, five years later, they had
• 1:43:11
  five years not being spies anymore.
• 1:43:15
  Like I'm having a personality. Love that for Bond, yeah.
• 1:43:20
  Let. Him enjoy, enjoy it off screen
• 1:43:24
  and then then it's. If it picks up right after this
• 1:43:29
  I would be a little frustrated. Yeah, so we, I'm excited to see.
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  I'm not gonna find out tonight. I'm so tired.
• 1:43:35
  I am not gonna watch it tonight, but since you've been leading
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  the way on this thing, why don't you why don't you explain the
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  next part? Oh, for us.
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  And then I get to go second for our rating systems, we go with a
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  scale of 1 to 10 and 10 being the highest and essentially
• 1:43:58
  saying everybody should love this movie. 5 being so much as
• 1:44:04
  the average person would enjoy this movie and one being I don't
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  think anybody should enjoy this movie.
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  I don't say those with any sort of bias towards this current
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  movie, but in general, averages in school or places tend to put
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  stuff around 7:00. If something is average we don't
• 1:44:30
  want to call it A5, but here we will definitely do fives if
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  necessary. Last time we saw something super
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  high, I can't remember if it was a Nine or A10.
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  I gave a 10. I gave Skyfall A10I.
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  Win. Everybody should love Skype.
• 1:44:45
  Yep, I and then you hit me with a 6.5.
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  I didn't love it. We're just fine.
• 1:44:53
  This one I will let you go first.
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  All right, well I didn't love this one, and for me, I'm down
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  to a three. I would put this below Quantum
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  of Solace, which I also did not particularly like.
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  But my main reason for doing that is that we've already had
• 1:45:18
  this story and it was 2 movies ago.
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  Like, it's not like we've had a lot of time to forget that he
• 1:45:27
  already tried to do a super organization story in the Bond
• 1:45:32
  franchise, not this director. And then on top of that, so much
• 1:45:37
  of this movie, I think Green as the villain from Quantum of
• 1:45:41
  Solace gets referenced twice in the entirety of the movie.
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  Otherwise, they're mostly trying to say, you remember Casino
• 1:45:49
  Royale, you remember Skyfall. This movie's also connected.
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  Isn't that crazy? Like, don't remember that other
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  movie. We'll just completely ignore
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  that one. But you know, this one's here.
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  And so that's, that's really what hurts it for me.
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  If, if I was completely unaware of Quantum of Solace, this would
• 1:46:10
  probably be a four out of five. But in context, knowing that
• 1:46:15
  this feels so derivative, I've got to, I've got to knock it
• 1:46:19
  down a point just for copying someone else's homework.
• 1:46:23
  You you can copy and do better and it's still copying, you
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  know? Copying and doing worse is a
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  feat, yes. Well, I think going into our
• 1:46:38
  discussion, I was probably at about just A5 and then thinking
• 1:46:43
  through everything that just got waved through like, oh, green
• 1:46:47
  light this, green light that. How does it happen?
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  I don't actually know. We're not going to need to
• 1:46:52
  explain that. We're going to get these two
• 1:46:54
  beautiful people together and they're going to overcome the
• 1:46:57
  odds. Trust us, they love each other.
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  Trust us. Yeah, I think I I I'm happy
• 1:47:06
  enough to knock it down a half a point just because 5 already is
• 1:47:10
  a very average movie. 4.5 is where I would land because I
• 1:47:15
  don't actively hate everything that's happening, but I don't
• 1:47:21
  love much of it. I like the, what do you call it?
• 1:47:27
  Effective portions of the film are how uncomfortable I feel
• 1:47:35
  with the torture, how sometimes there's fun sense of humor, but
• 1:47:42
  man, it just gets all drowned in the improbable solutions and
• 1:47:50
  routes of X of X position. This ring proofs Franz is alive.
• 1:47:59
  It has nothing to do with Franz. I don't understand how did you
• 1:48:04
  imagine that this connection is there.
• 1:48:07
  Anyway, 4.5 seems like a fair score to me.
• 1:48:11
  I mean for a show average that puts us at a 3.75.
• 1:48:16
  In terms of our threes, it is the highest.
• 1:48:22
  Which, I mean, it's better than some of those bad ones.
• 1:48:24
  Yeah, exactly. Like there are elements to this
• 1:48:27
  that are still very watchable and very interesting.
• 1:48:32
  It's just for me, especially after Skyfall, which really felt
• 1:48:37
  like it was pinnacle bond for me, like we had hit the peak of
• 1:48:44
  the mountain and then to turn around and go to one of the
• 1:48:47
  lowest valleys. I'm just like, come on, couldn't
• 1:48:51
  you have tried a little harder? And I don't know if I could
• 1:48:55
  point to anyone at as being at fault for that, but it it was,
• 1:49:01
  it was going to be nearly impossible to follow Skyfall.
• 1:49:04
  Like, that really was an incredible movie.
• 1:49:10
  Really good movie. Yeah, and a perfect movie.
• 1:49:15
  I don't know if I explained everything I didn't.
• 1:49:19
  I'm trying to remember how you do the either outro or Fr.
• 1:49:23
  I'm willing to take over for the outro.
• 1:49:26
  I'll I'll I won't force you to do that part because that one is
• 1:49:29
  also complicated. I.
• 1:49:30
  Should probably have it written down somewhere.
• 1:49:32
  I should because I never do it the same way.
• 1:49:35
  I try to remember the three big things and that's really all.
• 1:49:39
  And then I'm I never do it in the same order.
• 1:49:41
  I never say the same things, but I will say on whatever platform
• 1:49:46
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• 1:50:02
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• 1:50:06
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• 1:50:11
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• 1:50:21
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• 1:50:24
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• 1:50:26
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• 1:50:30
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• 1:50:33
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• 1:50:36
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• 1:50:45
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  One that's. No time to die for the last
• 1:50:59
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• 1:51:02
  What? Last movie time for the Bond
• 1:51:06
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• 1:51:09
  Thank you guys so much for listening.
• 1:51:11
  Goodbye. I think that went really well.
• 1:51:29
  Yeah, I enjoyed criticizing that movie.
• 1:51:34
  Just I feel like Skyfall just had so many nice like logical
• 1:51:40
  steps down the path of the plot and this one's like, Oh well, we
• 1:51:45
  need this to happen, so make it happen.