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- 0:19I'm just calling to let you guys know that if something happens, that I
- 0:23did it because I was trying to defend myself. That was how a nine
- 0:27to one to one call from Orange County went in twenty thirteen, and as
- 0:32far as friends, family, and local law enforcement were concerned, Mary Bell
- 0:36Ramos was certainly more than capable of handling business herself if she needed to.
- 0:41Mary Bell Ramos was born on November twenty second, nineteen seventy six, and
- 0:46from the get go she was a strong, hard working person. She had
- 0:51a passion for law enforcement, and even as a child, she saw herself
- 0:55one day working for the police. Mary Bell actually got a taste of what
- 0:59it might feel like when she graduated from high school and got a job as
- 1:03a security guard for a local kmart, But it was shortly after that that
- 1:07she got the real deal. Actually, maybe more accurate to say that she
- 1:11got even more than that, because instead of joining the law enforcement, Marybell
- 1:15joined the US Army. It was shortly after nine to eleven, and like
- 1:21so many others, Mary Bell found herself deployed to Iraq later that year.
- 1:26She did two combat tours before being honorably discharged and coming home back on American
- 1:32soil, Mary Bell returned to her roots and went to cow State Fullerton to
- 1:37study criminal justice. That was Marybelle's future settled. She was well liked,
- 1:42physically strong and fit from all of her military training, and she was well
- 1:46in her path to achieving her childhood dream of working in law enforcement. It
- 1:51looked like things could only continued to keep growing bigger and better for Mary Bell,
- 1:56But then she got some devastating news. Her mother was sick, and
- 2:00Mary Bell being Mary Bell, she moved into her mother's apartment to take care
- 2:05of her, to look after her, and she continued to go to school
- 2:08to get her degree during the day and during the night she'd be there for
- 2:12her mother, and she was still in the apartment in Orange County when her
- 2:15mother died about a year later. Mary Bell was now alone in her mother's
- 2:20house, and when the dust had settled, she quickly realized that she could
- 2:23not afford the rent by herself. Mary Bell's first stop was her sister,
- 2:29Lucy Gonzales, but Lucy had her daughter and she didn't want to uproot her
- 2:31child. If she could avoid doing so, Lucy made Mary Bell a promise
- 2:37that she would move into the apartment if Mary Bell couldn't find another solution.
- 2:42But Mary Bell knew that she couldn't put her sister and niece through that.
- 2:45She put an ad out on Craigslist and began screening potential roommates instead. It
- 2:52was amidst all the messages that came in response to her ad that one name
- 2:55stood out, Qwang Choi Joy. There was something about his profile and about
- 3:01him that just seemed right. He described himself as an easygoing guy who just
- 3:07needed a place to stay while he was looking for a job. Mary Bell
- 3:10and Lucy met up with Casey in person, and they liked him even more.
- 3:15Lucy found Casey quiet and sweet. He had no wife and no children,
- 3:21and didn't look like he was going to be any trouble at all.
- 3:24Mary Bell agreed, and the temptation of a future with a quiet, well
- 3:30mannered roommate who pretty much kept to himself was too enticing to pass up.
- 3:35Casey moved in, and for all Mary Bell could see, living with him
- 3:39was exactly as advertised. He was low maintenance, didn't make any noise,
- 3:45and never had people over. In fact, Casey usually spent most of his
- 3:49time just hanging out in the apartment on his own. At first, Mary
- 3:53Bell could not believe her luck, but then once she'd gotten over her initial
- 3:58joy, empathy, and concern, Arne quickly took over. Quote it's sad
- 4:02because we felt his loneliness, Lucy later said and gave an explanation for why
- 4:08Mary Bell and their family took Casey in as one of their own. They
- 4:12began inviting Casey to family events, and everyone grew incredibly close to him.
- 4:17That closeness continued to grow back at the apartment as well. Mary Bell and
- 4:23Casey started spending more and more time together and would often be seen running errands
- 4:28and walking their dogs together in the neighborhood. For Mary Bell, she found
- 4:31the perfect roommate who turned into an even better friend. For k C,
- 4:38he'd found the love of his life. That summer, Lucy got a call
- 4:43from Kse. He told her that he was in love with Mary Bell and
- 4:47he wanted to marry her and wanted to have children together with her. Lucy
- 4:51was shocked. She tried to soften the blow by telling Casey that he deserved
- 4:56to have all of that, but that she did not believe that it would
- 4:59be with her sister and then she tried to call Mary Bell to warn her.
- 5:03She advised Mary Bell to do what she could to manage Casey's expectations and
- 5:08to make it clear that she was not interested in him romantically. Mary Bell
- 5:14did just that, and Casey seemed to take the rejection on the chin.
- 5:18But then again, Casey also seemed to take it as a challenge and his
- 5:23mind, all he had to do was win Mary Bell over and then he'd
- 5:27have the woman and the life of his dreams. Casey completely changed the way
- 5:31he looked. He bought new clothes, he got a tattoo, and even
- 5:36spent about ten thousand dollars on plastic surgery to make himself look younger, and
- 5:42then he started trying to woo Mary Bell. He kept buying her expensive gifts
- 5:46and even took her on a cruise, probably thinking that she would be enticed
- 5:50by his new good looks and lavish gestures. But Mary Bell wasn't quite the
- 5:57opposite. Actually, Mary Bell found it annoying and concerning that Casey was now
- 6:01spending so much money on everything else that he couldn't afford to pay his rent
- 6:06and shared expenses on time. Instead of nurturing a budding romance. It looked
- 6:12like all of Casey's efforts were pushing Mary Bell away instead of pulling her in.
- 6:17And then, about nine months after Casey called Lucy to confess his feelings
- 6:21for Mary Bell, Mary Bell suddenly disappeared. She missed a scheduled event without
- 6:28letting anyone know beforehand, and friends and family couldn't reach her when they tried
- 6:32to call. Knowing that this was completely out of character for Mary Bell,
- 6:36her family rushed to the apartment to see if she was all right. She
- 6:41wasn't home. In fact, they couldn't find any signs that she had been
- 6:45home even recently. Her family reported her as missing, and an investigation quickly
- 6:49ensued. It took no time at all to uncover surveillance footage from the evening
- 6:55before that showed Mary Bell dropping off her rent check, and then she simply
- 7:00disappeared. Casey was obviously front and center of the investigation. Not only was
- 7:06he her roommates, but he was also the last person to have seen Mary
- 7:10Bell the night that she disappeared. He told the investigators that he and Mary
- 7:15Bell had gotten into an argument over expenses, and then he'd left to go
- 7:18out on a long drive to clear his head. According to Casey, when
- 7:23he'd come back home, Mary Bell was gone and he had not seen her
- 7:27since. His story was somewhat believable, but mary Bell's family kept pointing the
- 7:32finger at Casey and his unrequited feelings, and then investigators found the recording of
- 7:40mary Bell's call to the police. She'd made it only twelve days before she
- 7:45suddenly disappeared, and it completely changed the investigation. Irish Pa Okay, Well,
- 7:50I just want to let you know that I have a roommate that should
- 7:55be moving at the end of the month. We had a conversation today as
- 7:58he kind of freaking me out. I'm not saying from the ball around him
- 8:01anymore. I'm feeling threatened. What's your name is? My name is Barah
- 8:05Ball, my name is Thanks. You're laughing, Maraba Robe Sor I is
- 8:15okay. At the end of the month, I wanted to leave, and
- 8:18from now until then, I just feel like I have to lock my door,
- 8:22which I will, because he sounded like he would hurt me, like
- 8:26it was weird. Why cry the good love phrase? What you know,
- 8:35Amy, I'm not comfortable with him anymore. I'm just like colleagues will let
- 8:41you guys know that if something happens that I did it, because all the
- 8:45time is just send myself. Given her military training and physical strength, mary
- 8:50Bell was more than capable of protecting herself from k C if she needed to,
- 8:54and with his constant advancements and growing in patience, she was starting to
- 8:58think that a physical altercation between the two of them was on the horizon.
- 9:03In fact, it turned out that mary Bell actually asked case to move out
- 9:07the month before, but k C had kept coming up with excuses as to
- 9:11why he couldn't. The argument over expenses the night before Mary Bell had disappeared
- 9:16had actually escalated so far that Mary Bell apparently ended up telling k C that
- 9:22he had to move out the very next day. The timeline and growing tensions
- 9:26between the two roommates had the investigators looking into Casey's past. It turned out
- 9:33that he had moved to Orange County to escape his previous life that had been
- 9:37on a sharp downward trajectory. Before moving, he had lost his job in
- 9:43both of his parents and disputes over inheritance, and driven a wedge between k
- 9:46C and his sister. The whole bunch of family chaos. Differences of opinion
- 9:52had led to a full on war. Case ended up flying off the handle
- 9:56and took things too far that his sister was able to get a restraining order
- 10:00against him. It was then, with no job, no money, and
- 10:03no living family that would speak to him, that Case walked into Mary Bell's
- 10:07life. What he found in California was a kind and loving family that took
- 10:11him in, and gratitude slowly morphed into obsession. While the investigators continued to
- 10:18look for Mary Bell, her biggest fan was nowhere to be seen. He
- 10:22stalked online platforms, commenting on social media posts about her and telling the world
- 10:28how much he missed her, but in reality, he'd stopped all contact with
- 10:33her family and showing up to vigils held in her honor. However, the
- 10:37investigators kept k C firmly in their crosshairs. They still had no idea what
- 10:43had happened to Mary Bell, or even if she was still alive, but
- 10:46they were sure that Casey had something to do with it whatever happened to her.
- 10:50Maybe thinking that he was covering his tracks, Casey began going to public
- 10:54libraries to follow updates on the investigation, not knowing that he was being very
- 11:01closely watched by the authorities. How long does it take a body to decay?
- 11:05Read one of his searches, and then he looked up the strangest thing.
- 11:09Casey searched for a lone tree in a remote canyon on a map where
- 11:15he zoomed in, almost like he was looking for something. The investigators made
- 11:20a note and rushed to the location, only to discover the badly decomposing remains
- 11:24of a woman. Dental records revealed that it was unfortunately, Mary Bell.
- 11:31She'd spent about two weeks under the California sun, and no cause of death
- 11:35could be determined, But seeing as he'd known the exact location of her remains,
- 11:41it was pretty safe to say that Casey was at the very least somewhat
- 11:45responsible for her death. Chances were that because of her military training, case
- 11:50had attacked Mary Bell in her sleep and then killed her, and so the
- 11:54investigators wanted to talk to him again, But case then made himself look even
- 11:58more guilty by jumping out of a window when the police came to arrest him.
- 12:03He luckily didn't make it very far and was quickly charged with her murder.
- 12:07He was found guilty and sentenced to only fifteen years in prison. That's
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- 12:43of murder. He left someone's body in cold blood, killed them, and
- 12:48left their body in the desert to just decompose, and he got sentenced to
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