SaaS is dying on its own

Artisan Beer · Oct 3, 2026 · 1h · transcript

Ed Grosvenor and Peter van Dijck finally record the conversation they have every week anyway: what they're building, what's changing in the industry, and why SaaS is dying on its own.

Ed explains Scalpels, a set of small, open-source, agent-first apps you deploy to your own Laravel Cloud account. He also explains Hone, the Nightwatch alternative that sends your telemetry to your own endpoint and gives the findings to an agent instead of a dashboard. Peter explains Sputnik Intelligence, why he put a Rust search engine on Laravel Cloud, and why he thinks data may still be a good business even…