Latest / Sports Card Clubhouse / Mike & Chris Sewall Talk Crazy Scams On eBay and How To Avoid Them As A Seller
Transcript
- 0:00Hey everybody, it is Mike and I'm joined for the second week
- 0:04in a row here for This Week in Sports Cards by Chris Sewell.
- 0:08Chris, how are you? What's?
- 0:09Going on, man, it's. Great to have you this week in
- 0:13sports cards. I like to focus on things that
- 0:15happened in the past week and of course last week there hadn't
- 0:17been anything. This week there's really been
- 0:18one thing that has happened and I know you're completely unaware
- 0:23you've been, haven't, haven't been watching any YouTube.
- 0:26But on Twitter on Tuesday night into Wednesday, a bunch of
- 0:33examples blew up where a an eBay seller, sorry, an eBay buyer was
- 0:40buying cards, $4050 cards. And when he would receive them,
- 0:44he would take a picture of himself holding them and then
- 0:48ask ChatGPT or some other AI program to make it look like the
- 0:55card had been destroyed. And then he would take those
- 0:58images and go back to the seller and say, hey, look at how this
- 1:03card arrived. I want a refund.
- 1:05And sellers were refunding him. But somebody started posting
- 1:10about it saying what is that? How does this even happen?
- 1:13And people started looking at it and saying, hey, I had the same
- 1:15exact thing happened. Was it this buyer?
- 1:18Yes, every single time it was 5 or 6 people sellers with the
- 1:22same exact buyer using AI to destroy his card mean and
- 1:27destroy it in in terms of the image.
- 1:30What's your take on that? No, Oh no, what what what was
- 1:34the end result like? Has he have people?
- 1:37Are people going after him as even?
- 1:41Yeah, can you hear me? Am I frozen again, man?
- 1:48Am I frozen still? Am I good?
- 1:50You're good. There's a small chance it's me.
- 1:52I don't. I think I've no.
- 1:54It's been happening with with Greg too.
- 1:55I think it's my stream yard. So the the end result on this is
- 2:00that he has deleted all of his social media.
- 2:04He he had a TikTok that people found.
- 2:06He had a, so he had, he was, he had presence on social media.
- 2:09Yes, as a sports card seller. Oh, OK.
- 2:13And people found all of his social media, they private
- 2:18messaged them all over the place.
- 2:20And he has deleted all of his social media.
- 2:21People reached out to his wife who's an attorney and I, I don't
- 2:26know what happened with that, but they wanted to let her know
- 2:29that her husband was scamming people online.
- 2:32And he has changed his name on eBay a couple times and says
- 2:37that he's deleting his eBay, but it takes time to delete your
- 2:41eBay account or eBay store. He he sells cards on eBay,
- 2:45although not anymore, and he said that he's no longer
- 2:48involved in selling sports cards because it's not worth it with
- 2:51all this stuff that's happened to him, playing the victim card,
- 2:54of course. Yeah, that's how many were
- 2:58there. There were 6.
- 3:00Yeah, they're 5 or 6. And so I did a video on it
- 3:03Wednesday, I think, or maybe Tuesday afternoon, and then Neo
- 3:07did a video on it, and then Jeff Wilson and Teapot did a video on
- 3:11it, too. I've been, I've been living
- 3:14under, this was on Tuesday. I've been under a rock for the
- 3:16last three days. I guess so, yeah.
- 3:17I guess so, yeah. OK.
- 3:20Yeah. So he did 6 or he did roughly 6
- 3:23and. Six that are known that are out
- 3:25there publicly. That are out there publicly.
- 3:28You got to think he was doing it a lot.
- 3:29In fact, with one of them, he accidentally in a in a message
- 3:36with a seller when he when he said to the seller, hey, look at
- 3:40what you're what the mail did to the card you mailed me.
- 3:44He then accidentally posted a photo of a different card and
- 3:48said make this card look the same.
- 3:51So he thought that his eBay chat was his ChatGPT prompt, and that
- 3:56went viral too. OK, so he's not, not not the
- 4:00brightest criminal. So there's no like debate as to
- 4:06maybe this is the biggest coincidence of all time and 66
- 4:09packages all got damaged in the same thing.
- 4:11No, no, no, no, no, no. You can tell.
- 4:13In fact, if you look at the cards, the real images of the
- 4:17cards with the AI images with the cards, you can see there's
- 4:21ever so slight differences in the autographs in some cases.
- 4:26And in one of them the the serial number was completely
- 4:30removed by AI and the player's socks were gone as well, like
- 4:36the the player's photo was stripped shifted down some.
- 4:42But if you're not looking carefully.
- 4:44You wouldn't. You wouldn't I?
- 4:46I would have. I would have.
- 4:47I would have missed that. I'm I'm sure because it's a,
- 4:49it's a $40 card. I would have missed it, yeah.
- 4:51Right. And that's the point I was
- 4:52making on my video was a lot of people on Twitter were saying,
- 4:55well, why would he do these on do this on $40 cards?
- 4:59And the answer to me was well, because it's right.
- 5:02A seller is going to take great care if it's $1000 card, but if
- 5:07it's a $40 card, you're just going to say, shoot, I can't
- 5:09believe that happened. I'll refund your money, right?
- 5:11Well and on and on $1000 card you're going to, it's going to
- 5:14be eBay. The eBay protection is there.
- 5:16Exactly, yes. Yeah.
- 5:20Yeah. So over $250 eBay authenticity
- 5:23guarantee is going to protect the seller.
- 5:26But the yeah, these $40 cards, there was a $20 card, a couple
- 5:30of $40 cards, a $50 card. So as a seller, have you, well,
- 5:35let me get your take just on the scam itself.
- 5:37It's pretty brilliant, right? I mean, it's a good scam because
- 5:40eBay is going to protect the buyer.
- 5:42They, they tend to do that. You're, you're keeping it under
- 5:46the $250. So most especially big sellers,
- 5:50if they, if you know who sell a lot of cards, if somebody, if
- 5:54one, you know, if I sell somebody sells, you know, 20
- 5:56cards a day. And once in a while somebody
- 5:59comes back and says, hey, this $40 card got damaged in the
- 6:01mail. I, I, you know, I don't even, I
- 6:03don't even argue it. I just refund it here.
- 6:05Here's the reason. All right, it's not worth my
- 6:07hassle to have it shipped back and check on it, whatever.
- 6:10So yeah, he, if he's dealing with big sellers, probably most
- 6:13of them are just going to give him his money back.
- 6:14So that, that's probably a scam that he, you know, he could, I
- 6:19mean, I remember you saying this, you said this to your kids
- 6:21about stealing. Like if you steal, you're going
- 6:23to get away with it. But if you steal constantly,
- 6:25you're going to get, you're going to get busted.
- 6:27Yeah, you can. You can get away with it for a
- 6:29time, but eventually you're going to get caught stealing,
- 6:32lying, whatever it is you're going to do, that's against the
- 6:34law. And when I say that this scam is
- 6:36brilliant, it's insanely scummy. But it's, I think Jeff and
- 6:44Teapot talked about how this type of scam is only going to
- 6:47get more evil, more smart, smarter.
- 6:52Yes, absolutely. This guy was just an idiot.
- 6:56Are there there must be tools that eBay has that say, hey,
- 7:02this guy's requested refunds or received refunds a dozen times
- 7:07in the last week and have eBay look into it, right?
- 7:11Shouldn't there be? Well, that was the first thought
- 7:13I can do because the the problem is, let's say AI can make that
- 7:16photo so realistic that nobody could tell.
- 7:20There's nothing there's I don't, I don't think there's anything
- 7:23anyone can do because eBay is going to support the buyer.
- 7:27So I think the seller's just out of luck when you're dealing with
- 7:29a scammer, unless what you just said is the is the answer.
- 7:31And I don't think eBay has that good of a system in place.
- 7:34Like if they see somebody constantly returning things for,
- 7:38you know, full refund or if they see constantly getting partial
- 7:41refunds, then that should be flagged.
- 7:43I don't know that that system's in place.
- 7:45I certainly hope it is. But like this guy, this.
- 7:49Guy 6 different times reached out to someone said hey my thing
- 7:52was damaged give me a refund and he got 6 refunds within a a
- 7:55short time. EBay should flag that.
- 7:57Yeah, they should. Yeah.
- 8:00So this guy isn't requesting, he's not returning them.
- 8:05And none of these sellers, only one of the sellers said, I'll be
- 8:08happy to refund you as soon as you return it to me.
- 8:11And then he just, he just ghosted them.
- 8:13Yeah. So isn't that your best bet on
- 8:17this? Even though it's only $40?
- 8:18Isn't isn't your best angle as a seller to just say?
- 8:22Return it. Return it to me and I'll refund
- 8:24you. Absolutely.
- 8:26But again, if you're a big seller and you're dealing with a
- 8:28lot of things, it's not even worth your time to have to to
- 8:31track that, keep track of when it arrives, remember what the
- 8:34package was, remember whose it was, remember check the car.
- 8:37It's just not. It's not even worth the time on
- 8:39a on a smaller item. How many cards a month?
- 8:43How many cards a month do you sell on eBay?
- 8:45I sell about 5 items a day or so but the but I don't sell
- 8:49anything under a few $100 or sorry $100.
- 8:54OK, so if you're AI don't know DC Sports 87.
- 9:00Yeah, yeah. Not.
- 9:03How did they prevent this from happening to themselves
- 9:06repeatedly? So I, oh, by the way, I, if I,
- 9:10if that happened to me, well, let's see if that happened to
- 9:13me. And if that happened to them,
- 9:14what I imagine they would do is let's say somebody says I have a
- 9:17$40 card you shipped me and it got came damaged and they
- 9:20suspected something was up. They would just refund the 40
- 9:22and then block that person, which is what, what I would do
- 9:26if I suspected it was a scam. It's not worth, it's not, it's
- 9:31not worth the fight from my end time wise and stress wise.
- 9:36But I don't want to deal with that person again if I if I
- 9:39assume it's a scam. I mean, maybe it's you know, I
- 9:41assume, oh, this probably really did happen.
- 9:43But if I have suspicion. Yeah.
- 9:46And it seems to me that eBay should have some of the the the
- 9:51way to catch it that we just talked about, but also if a lot
- 9:54of sellers are blocking a certain buyer.
- 9:57Yes, yeah. I hope there's some an algorithm
- 9:59with that calculates all that. If somebody's getting blocked a
- 10:02lot, if they're returning a lot, if they're getting a lot of
- 10:03partial refunds or full refunds. Yeah, a large percentage.
- 10:08Then that's a. That's a flag.
- 10:10So yeah, there's so many questions about this scam that
- 10:19are left unanswered, and I'm not sure that we'll ever we'll ever
- 10:22find out. Yeah.
- 10:24Have have you as a seller ever been scammed on eBay?
- 10:28Yeah, I was because you asked me that to come prepare with that.
- 10:30I I, I've, I don't know of a time where I was definitely
- 10:34scammed, but there's been many times when I was quite
- 10:37suspicious. And for those in those times, I
- 10:41basically just accepted, took the L, took the loss and and
- 10:44blocked the person. There's been, there's actually
- 10:47been a lot of those. There was even one fairly recent
- 10:52some, yeah, somebody, I mean, somebody just received the
- 10:54package said, said, said it was empty and sent a picture of it
- 10:59was in a like a, a bubble Mailer.
- 11:01They said it was empty. They sent a picture of the
- 11:03bubble Mailer with a with a cut like there was like a a RIP in
- 11:06it. Sure.
- 11:09What do I do? I have no, I have no, you know,
- 11:11the only thing I could have done in theory was record myself
- 11:14putting it into the but even there, I guess even there like
- 11:18it gets ripped in in shipping and falls out.
- 11:20I'm responsible according to ebay's rules.
- 11:23So you know, in that situation is that did that really happen?
- 11:27Maybe, but I think more likely the person is is scamming me.
- 11:30So I've I've just gave them the refund and blocked them.
- 11:33And can you then leave negative feedback for them?
- 11:36No, no, eBay does not allow you to leave negative feedback for
- 11:39buyers, which they used to a long time ago.
- 11:43You can report a buyer if you if they do something really wrong,
- 11:48but I don't I I don't think I reported if I'm like not sure.
- 11:50I I wouldn't report them. I would just block them.
- 11:54And I know eBay uses AI for a lot.
- 11:57Like customer service is almost all AI and, and I have to
- 12:00imagine that if you were to report them and say, hey, can
- 12:04you look into if this guy, this buyer is doing this a lot, it
- 12:09would probably just be an AI response.
- 12:11And just like with on Twitter, they'll say, we're looking into
- 12:14this problem and it's always the same exact wording.
- 12:18Nothing ever gets resolved. Well, so you're, I mean, you
- 12:22don't do any selling on eBay, right?
- 12:24The last card I sold was almost two years ago on eBay.
- 12:28And do you do? Are you a regular buyer?
- 12:31Oh yeah. Yeah, exactly.
- 12:33You buy 5 cards a day. No, I have, I have next to me
- 12:40probably 5 packages from the past week or so.
- 12:43So I would say an average of, I don't know, 3A week.
- 12:50I just bought a card from you off Com C.
- 12:52Did you? Oh, cool, though not on eBay or
- 12:55on. Yeah.
- 12:56OK. What was it?
- 12:57Yeah. It was early Red Sox top, Chrome
- 13:02tops, Chrome refractor, I think. And, you know, I was just
- 13:05searching and I, I found the one I was looking for and I went to
- 13:08buy it and it was owned by Sewell.
- 13:14Cool. Yeah.
- 13:15It's, oh, yeah. It was the second time it's
- 13:17happened. OK.
- 13:17OK, nice. Yeah, yeah.
- 13:20But so have you ever so as a buyer, because you probably
- 13:23haven't experienced that when something happens to you as a
- 13:26seller, eBay just doesn't have your back.
- 13:28They they, they always support the buyer, which is their model.
- 13:31And I don't, I don't even blame them for that.
- 13:34Have you I? I guess you wouldn't have
- 13:36experienced anything like that really, since you haven't sold.
- 13:39Well, you know, about four years ago I bought a collection, first
- 13:44time I'd ever bought a collection.
- 13:45And I in that collection was some WWE.
- 13:50Well back it was WWF wax packs and cards and things like that.
- 13:57And I sold a lot of them. I made more than what I paid for
- 14:01the collection back just in the WWF stuff.
- 14:04And I remember I, I'd taken great care and shipping and when
- 14:10I, when one of them was all of them, you know, I got great
- 14:14feedback on them. But one guy private messaged me
- 14:17and said, hey, look at how this arrived.
- 14:20And he sent me a photo that I felt like, I don't think my
- 14:26package arrived that way. But, and this is years, I barely
- 14:30remember it, but I do remember being like, I have to fix this.
- 14:35And so I said to him, all right, I'll give you half your money
- 14:37back and you can keep everything.
- 14:39And he agreed to it. Yeah, OK.
- 14:42Yeah, that's that's kind of what I would often offer.
- 14:45Another one I'm I'm fairly sure I got scammed on was I had a,
- 14:50it's sort of an oddball item. It's a 1992 little Suns set with
- 14:56which is like a a minor league set and it has Derek Jeter in
- 14:59there and it's an expensive card and there's actually even a long
- 15:02shot of getting a Derek Jeter auto out of it.
- 15:05But it's a very, very long shot. But the set is sealed.
- 15:08But it's sealed. You can you it comes in a like a
- 15:1030, I don't know, like a snap case.
- 15:13And there's a tiny little, there's a sticker that prevents
- 15:16you from opening it. And if the sticker is broken,
- 15:18obviously the, the seals and I, I, so I had one sealed and I
- 15:22sold it and I want to say it was like a $600.00 item and the
- 15:27person received it and then said that the seal had been broken.
- 15:33And he said the Jeter was in there, but the seal was broken.
- 15:37And he, and he, so he, he got, he sent it.
- 15:40He actually sent it back for a full refund, but I'm I'm quite
- 15:43certain that he received it, opened it.
- 15:45The Jeter was pretty off centered so he was probably not
- 15:47happy with that and and and he claimed that it was opened and
- 15:51again he just sent me a picture of the seal ripped but he he
- 15:54could have just done that of. Course.
- 15:57And I, I have no recourse. I mean, I can, I can refuse and
- 16:00he'll give me negative feedback and eBay will make me refund
- 16:03him. So there's no point in refusing
- 16:05or fighting like there's no, there's no, there's nothing for
- 16:08me to for me to do. That's crazy.
- 16:11That's crazy. I mean, I can report him if I'm
- 16:12like, sure. But I mean, was there a 10%
- 16:15chance that I did screw up? I guess, But you know, Yeah,
- 16:19yeah. We should just since we're
- 16:22talking about you and your eBay store.
- 16:23What is your eBay store? I know you put Sewell or
- 16:26something, right? Yeah, it's just my last name.
- 16:28Sewell. I'm like, I'm a It's the whole
- 16:30thing. I don't need any numbers at the
- 16:32end because I was there. I was there in the 90s.
- 16:33I think I started in like 98. Yeah, that's not.
- 16:36Like Sewell O 87 or something. That's crazy.
- 16:40I'll try to remember to put the link to it in the in the
- 16:43description here. Yeah, it's, it's a crazy world
- 16:47out there. And I see there was, I think I
- 16:51did 2 scam videos in the fall on eBay scams.
- 16:56I don't remember what those were.
- 16:57It's there's just so many. Yeah.
- 17:00Oh yeah, I remember. Well, one of them wasn't an eBay
- 17:02scam, it was just a buying online where one guy convinced
- 17:06two other people that they were mailing cards to each other, but
- 17:10they're actually mailing to him and paying him too.
- 17:14Yeah. Tricky, tricky stuff.
- 17:17Oh, oh, I I saw that one. Oh yeah, I remember that one and
- 17:21they like sent it to a church or something or or not a church
- 17:23like an abandoned in in the same city.
- 17:27That one was a pretty in depth scam.
- 17:30Or a. Pretty complex thought out scam.
- 17:35So as a seller, other other than just saying I gotta eat it, how
- 17:42do you protect yourself? So if there's, if, if it's an
- 17:46well, so the eBay off guarantee, authenticity guarantee program,
- 17:49I know a lot of people don't like it.
- 17:52I freaking love it because it's, it's, it is designed.
- 17:55It's a huge net positive for sellers.
- 17:59And I think it's one of the few things ebay's ever done that is
- 18:01a huge net positive for sellers. I think it's probably like kind
- 18:05of a wash for buyers 'cause they, they get a little extra
- 18:08protection, but they also have to wait longer, you know, and I,
- 18:12I think there's been some issues with it maybe I don't know if
- 18:14you have you experienced it as a buyer.
- 18:17I have I have APO box and one of the loopholes is that they don't
- 18:22ship to PO boxes so it won't go through the eBay authenticity
- 18:27guarantee if the buyer has APO box do.
- 18:30They just bypass it or you like you, you have to give a
- 18:32different address. Completely bypasses it, but but
- 18:36there was one time. So I've, I've bought a few
- 18:39things that should have qualified for authenticity
- 18:41guarantee. One time it still went through
- 18:44it and it still shipped it to my PO Box, which I didn't
- 18:47understand why. Why would they not?
- 18:50Because it's done by FedEx and I guess FedEx doesn't ship to PO
- 18:53Boxes. So I don't know.
- 18:56But yeah, that one time it still went through.
- 19:00It was a good experience as a buyer.
- 19:01It, it didn't take long. I think it may have been from
- 19:06the time I purchased it and paid for it.
- 19:08It was like 10 days, Yeah. So I thought that was pretty
- 19:12fast. Right.
- 19:14Although it if they didn't do it, you would received it in
- 19:17four days, right? Probably.
- 19:18Sure. So that's.
- 19:19That's the trade off. But so would you.
- 19:23So you, you, you were fine with this service like you're like I,
- 19:25I wouldn't do that. I'd prefer to have it in 10 with
- 19:28a little extra protection than have it in four.
- 19:31In that case, yeah, absolutely. I, I can't.
- 19:34I know that there will be some instances where I'd, I'd want it
- 19:37quicker, but with all the fake slabs that are out there, fake
- 19:43cards, like even Jeff talked about how he somebody came up to
- 19:49him at a show last year and was trying to sell him fake slabs
- 19:54and he he didn't do enough. Honestly, he was just like, hey,
- 19:58these are fake. And then just let the guy
- 20:00continue selling cards at his table.
- 20:02But yeah, there are people out there with fake slabs.
- 20:05Etsy. Fake PSA slabs like crazy on
- 20:09that scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 20:11Well, as going back to original question as a seller, I, I, I
- 20:15love it because it it truly protects you can't, you can't
- 20:18scam me on a, on a $250 an up card or at least eliminates any
- 20:23scam I can think of. But the other thing you can do,
- 20:26and I've I do often is if, if it's in a really expensive item
- 20:31that's not going to go through that, I'll, I'll actually
- 20:33literally record myself packaging it up, showing the
- 20:36card to make a video record myself packaging up, taping it
- 20:40up, putting the label in the box and marking the label in a way
- 20:43where it could couldn't be faked.
- 20:46And yeah, and shipping it out that way.
- 20:48I don't even that's never come into play.
- 20:50But I don't, I don't even know if that would help, but I
- 20:52imagine it might if like there was a descript I like if it was
- 20:55like a PayPal thing. PayPal is not a always support
- 20:59the buyer company that they they're more balanced, but with
- 21:02eBay you you probably need some sort of protection like that.
- 21:06So when you take those videos, do you just just keep them on
- 21:10your phone somewhere or do you store them in a a drive?
- 21:12No. They're literally on my phone
- 21:14and I delete them a month later, right?
- 21:17Yeah, or delete them later whenever they're they're long
- 21:20overdue. Yeah, yeah.
- 21:22And you've never and never had to use those.
- 21:25I have not, No, no, I don't. I mean, I actually, there's
- 21:29actually, I actually think there's very few scams like
- 21:32given how much I sell, I've sold in my lifetime and the number of
- 21:37times there's been a scam, it's a very, very small percentage,
- 21:39but for eBay, but it's obviously there.
- 21:43Yeah. I think that that's, it's a good
- 21:46clarification. Obviously, there are millions of
- 21:51card transactions probably every single month and a very small
- 21:55percentage of them result in scams.
- 21:57So there's more of awareness being aware of them.
- 22:00And I think that fewer of them end in scams because of
- 22:04awareness because people are so that the awareness of it is so
- 22:08heightened thanks to social media.
- 22:11Now another one that I just saw is the AI coin.
- 22:15You know what a coining is when you coin a photo online?
- 22:19So for anybody who. Yeah.
- 22:20So for anybody who doesn't know, if you're trying to sell on
- 22:23Instagram or Twitter, you take a photo of your card and you write
- 22:27down your name and the date on a piece of paper next to it.
- 22:29And now people are using AI to create that fake coin, the name
- 22:34and date. So they're stealing an image of
- 22:37a big card, and then they use AI to make it look like they've
- 22:41written their name and a date next to the on a piece of paper
- 22:44next to the card. And then they sell it in quotes.
- 22:48And then they've never actually had the card to collect money
- 22:51for it. Yeah.
- 22:53And so people are more aware of that scam too, because that's
- 22:56going around a lot lately. Yeah, the the simplest thing is
- 23:01in this industry do if you're if there's any way you can get
- 23:04scams, just avoid it. Like if anyone wants money up
- 23:06front, just don't even don't even consider it.
- 23:10I mean, I mean, if you want to use PayPal Goods and services
- 23:12for something to protect you, actually PayPal Goods and
- 23:14services is pretty impressive. I've, I've actually, no, that's
- 23:18a, that's a scam. That was not an eBay scam.
- 23:19But yeah, I bought a card, paid with PayPal Goods and services.
- 23:24The card never arrived. I I got my refund via PayPal.
- 23:27So, yeah, yeah. And that's another one that we
- 23:33hear occasionally on social media is people who have built
- 23:36up trust, you know, they, they sell a $20 card, goods and
- 23:40services, then they sell a $40 card, goods and services to the
- 23:42same person. And then now you've done
- 23:45business with them twice and they've, they do a, oh, I've got
- 23:47this $800 card now, are you interested in this?
- 23:50I this one I have to do friends and family and the person's like
- 23:53well I've done 2 cards and they were trustworthy and they fall
- 23:58for it. No, I, I have a strict like I
- 24:00don't. I have a strict.
- 24:02There's there's, I don't, there's nobody like and you have
- 24:05to set the line like other because otherwise, you know, the
- 24:07line just keeps moving or something.
- 24:09Now I either pay after I've received the cards or if I'm
- 24:13paying upfront it's goods and services and there's no
- 24:15exceptions. Yeah, I assume you have a
- 24:17business account where you can only accept money, goods and
- 24:21services. I can.
- 24:22I can only accept money, goods and services.
- 24:24Yes, but I can pay via friends and family.
- 24:26Yeah, it's a it's a wild time out there, especially with AI
- 24:32and just imagining what other AI scams might come about.
- 24:35That's a little scary, the AI thing, man.
- 24:37I, I didn't. Yeah, I mean, you can.
- 24:39People are gonna get clever. Hopefully it's hopefully it's
- 24:42all idiots like this guy who get clever and get caught right
- 24:45away. Well yeah, when you do it 6
- 24:47times and people start posting about it and people say oh hey
- 24:51the same exact thing happened to me.
- 24:53Was it this guy? Yeah, it was.
- 24:55And this guy and the players missing his his shoe on the
- 24:57card. Right, So what else is going on
- 25:03in your world? Not much.
- 25:07All's well. Going to look at a collection on
- 25:09Tuesday. How about how about your your
- 25:10world? Good.
- 25:13You know, I work full time in a corporate company.
- 25:17I don't get the the fun of buying collections and sorting
- 25:23cards all day. Yeah, I've asked you this
- 25:25before, but what? How many hours a week do you put
- 25:28in towards playing with cards and your your channel?
- 25:33Most of it is just my channel and and you know other things
- 25:38related to the channel. I would say 6 hours a week for
- 25:44the channel and Yep. And I don't really do a lot of
- 25:48playing with cards. It's I don't have a lot like.
- 25:52Well, playing with like searching eBay or oh.
- 25:56Jeez. Or watching other channel.
- 25:59I like watching other YouTube videos where that's like what
- 26:02you're doing, not not like his background.
- 26:03Stuff. Probably another six hours.
- 26:05OK, Yeah. But I don't watch a whole lot of
- 26:08YouTube. I do a lot of searching for
- 26:11cards and reading about cards and researching cards and things
- 26:15like that. That I love it.
- 26:17I don't, I don't consider it work.
- 26:19I don't. I don't think of my channel as
- 26:20work the vast majority of the time either.
- 26:23Yeah. OK.
- 26:24So 6:00 and 6:00. Yeah. 12 hours a week, that's a
- 26:27solid, solid little side thing you got going on there.
- 26:33How much time do you spend on cards a week?
- 26:35Got to be like 80. Oh, it's a lot.
- 26:37Yeah, that's a good question. It's not 80.
- 26:41I'd say it's 60 to 60. Yeah, probably 60.
- 26:46But does it feel like it? Like, do you?
- 26:48Oh, I I wake up and I want to go play with cards now there's
- 26:52there's aspects that are chore that are chore like shipping and
- 26:56you know, some, some things, but no, most of it's fun.
- 27:00Yeah, the shipping that's that's the worst part for me is the
- 27:05shipping. Yeah, that is, that is the
- 27:07absolute worst. I was just gonna ask you another
- 27:12question too, and now I don't remember what it was, but so.
- 27:17You you have sold on eBay before?
- 27:19What's your what's your feedback on eBay?
- 27:21100% yeah, it's like, but it almost all of its buyer
- 27:24feedback. I've probably sold, I don't
- 27:28know, 50 to 100 things on eBay. OK.
- 27:31Oh, OK. So you have some, you have a
- 27:32little bit of seller feedback built up.
- 27:34Oh, that's something. That's something I wish eBay
- 27:36would do or when, when they do a little bit.
- 27:39So I don't think somebody with 0 feedback should be allowed to
- 27:43buy a $500 card. And I think they have some level
- 27:48of that, but it's not enough like I'm allowed to.
- 27:53Am I allowed to do I'm allowed to like block buyers who have
- 27:55like 3 negatives in the last week or something, something
- 27:58like that. I'm allowed to if I want, but
- 28:00I'm not I I I should be allowed to block buyers with feedback
- 28:04like 5 and under from buying a a 200 plus item.
- 28:07I think I, I, I wish, I wish there was more of that.
- 28:10Yeah. Yeah, to protect, to protect
- 28:13sellers. Again, I'm more of a seller.
- 28:15But anyway, sorry, didn't mean to cut you off.
- 28:17No, there was an eBay account with 0 feedback a week or two
- 28:22ago. Yeah, that was selling a massive
- 28:26Tom Brady car worth I think 10s of thousands of dollars.
- 28:29Yeah. And it and it got a lot of
- 28:31attention 'cause it was a big, big Tom Brady card.
- 28:33But the seller had 0 feedback no Buyer feedback no.
- 28:36Seller feedback, right, Right. Yeah.
- 28:39Doesn't it feel? No, yes, by the way, that's an
- 28:44easy 1. EBay should not if you have 0
- 28:46feedback, but also with like shield bidding whenever there's
- 28:50like a, you know, some card is shielded up to 20 grand and
- 28:53there's a whole bunch of zeros in the like, why?
- 28:55Why is a 0 feedback person allowed to bid $18,000 on a card
- 28:59that, that you, you should have to build up to that.
- 29:01And maybe the maybe there is something in, in the some steps
- 29:05for that, but it's not, it's not enough.
- 29:07And no somewhat 0 feedback. I don't think they are allowed
- 29:10to sell that. Was it an auction?
- 29:11The Tom Brady card? It was.
- 29:13Yeah. OK, then they are, I don't think
- 29:16some of 0 feedback's allowed to like list a $10,000 item or
- 29:19something. There's, there's limits there,
- 29:21but I, I think it's an in an auction there.
- 29:25I mean, you know what's eBay gonna do, I guess, but.
- 29:28But can you, you can't go in and see live bidders.
- 29:33I guess you can like if somebody's bidding on your card,
- 29:37you can click on the bids and see if somebody has 0 feedback,
- 29:40can you block them from from there so they can't bid again?
- 29:43No, no, I don't. I don't think so.
- 29:46I actually don't sell an auction on eBay at all.
- 29:48So I don't really know, but I don't think so.
- 29:50I don't think you can do anything block wise which is
- 29:54annoying but. Yeah, a lot of the things I sold
- 29:57were like in 2003 and 2004 when I was getting back into the
- 30:04getting back into cards. But I was also really into
- 30:07buying and selling and I was, I was selling some childhood stuff
- 30:10and I had AI think it was a 1964.
- 30:13Was it the 64 tops coins set that Clemente had one?
- 30:17Yep. He's a 64 and 71.
- 30:20Yeah, 64. I had a really, really nice
- 30:23Clemente Tops coin and I sold it for $150.00 in 2003 on eBay, on
- 30:31eBay at at auction. And looking back on it, I
- 30:35remember when I got back into the hobby again five years ago,
- 30:38I thought, oh, I wonder, I regret selling that.
- 30:41And I looked and they weren't going for anywhere near that
- 30:43much now, no. I was going to say $150.00 was a
- 30:46great price. Yeah, whatever.
- 30:48You were doing. You didn't know there.
- 30:50Anyway, it was. It was Immaculate.
- 30:52Yeah, OK, It was Immaculate, isn't it?
- 30:55Is. So having sold like singles on
- 30:57eBay, isn't it just like so much better to sell on Comsty?
- 31:01It is and I I actually what? Free promotion for COMC here.
- 31:07Yeah. I I was just saying last week, I
- 31:09know COMC, I think they're done sponsoring channels, but I there
- 31:15are not a lot of channels, not a lot of places I would take
- 31:17sponsorship from, but I love COMC, yeah.
- 31:19Yeah. The problem with COMC is that it
- 31:22takes forever to get your cards back.
- 31:24Like I put in a request for cards on December, I don't know,
- 31:2828th and they're they said that I'd get them on or they'd ship
- 31:33on January 28th. So a month wait.
- 31:36But there were also 780 yeah, there were 787,000 items ahead
- 31:43of mine and they're sending out between 10 and 15,000 a day.
- 31:48So you're talking about 70 ish business days for mine ship if
- 31:56they stay at the same pace. Wow, yeah, no they they they
- 32:00have they have some issues but the service they provide is
- 32:03awesome compared to other any other option.
- 32:06Yeah, I love using it. It's so easy.
- 32:10It's it's kind of fun, which is weird to say, but.
- 32:13Yeah, yeah. I just wish you could get your
- 32:15cards quicker. Yeah, me.
- 32:16Too. I agree with you on that one.
- 32:21Well, that's all I had. Chris, I appreciate you coming
- 32:23on again second week in a row. I've got teapot on next week.
- 32:29I don't know what we're going to talk about yet.
- 32:30You. Don't have you don't have the
- 32:31the the. I've actually only met him once
- 32:34for like literally 10 seconds at A at a card show.
- 32:37But. I've never met him in person.
- 32:39OK, but you don't have a topic yet.
- 32:43Not yet, no. I'll wait for something to come
- 32:45up. Yeah.
- 32:47Yeah. Cool.
- 32:48Yeah. All right.
- 32:51Thanks for joining me. And thanks to everybody for
- 32:53watching or listening, depending on where you were.
- 32:55You were catching this. We will see all next week.