Latest / Money Grows on Trees / #351 - Full Shares Masterclass, Wasn’t Meant For The Public
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- 0:00The average person has no idea how shares actually work, and it's costing them
- 0:03a fortune. You see, most people think investing in shares is like gambling on
- 0:07a number going up or down. The reality is, a share
- 0:10is a piece of ownership in a real business, a genuine business. And
- 0:13when you understand that, everything about building wealth changes. I'm
- 0:16Lloyd J. Ross, seven-figure investor and entrepreneur, and I've helped thousands of everyday Australians,
- 0:20Americans, New Zealanders, and Canadians get out of debt and build real wealth. And
- 0:23in this video, I'm going to walk you through the complete share masterclass
- 0:27that, to be honest with you, was really never supposed to be shared with you in public. So
- 0:31we're going to break down what makes a great company, exactly how shares
- 0:35work, and how to build a portfolio today. So buckle up, it's going to be fun.
- 0:38This is a longer episode and I wasn't joking when I said this is a
- 0:41masterclass. The reason it's longer is because I'm divulging things in
- 0:45here that I teach in our courses and mentoring. Real
- 0:49genuine financial education that is inside some of our stuff. You're getting
- 0:52it from inside out right now. This is a little glimpse of
- 0:56the stuff that I cover inside our programs. So enjoy
- 0:59this one. Stay with it to the end. Gets juicier as I go. So
- 1:02the first thing we have to cover is where do shares come from? What
- 1:06is a share? And so I have to explain this
- 1:09to you so you understand, right? It's not just a little blip on a screen.
- 1:13It's not a number on a screen. It's not a chart. A share represents legal
- 1:17ownership in the equity of a company. Now
- 1:20that particular company may have one business or multiple businesses, right? So
- 1:24Alphabet as a company happens to have lots of businesses. It's
- 1:27got YouTube, it's got cloud, it's got search, it's got
- 1:30Waymo. A company can house multiple businesses. At
- 1:34the end of the day, a share represents legal ownership in
- 1:37the equity of the business. You're an owner of the company, right?
- 1:41As a company is developed and grows, It can grow
- 1:45through debt or it can grow through equity. Debt is when
- 1:48it borrows money from a lender and then pays it back over time and uses
- 1:51the money to grow. Whereas equity is we're actually selling a
- 1:55piece of the company. A private business ultimately
- 1:58becomes a company. So if you're starting out a business, eventually what
- 2:02you'll do is you'll end up starting a company and a company will really own
- 2:05that business. So for example, we have, just to make things simple,
- 2:09we have a laundromat business. Now the name of the laundromat business is
- 2:12Buddy's Laundromat. But the company that
- 2:16owns the business, that bought the business is not named that. It's
- 2:19named a different name. So a company can buy and own
- 2:23and develop and build multiple businesses. So in
- 2:26Australia, a private company can have up to 20 shareholders. So
- 2:29a Pty Ltd company that you or I could start, we
- 2:33can issue shares to other investors who
- 2:37own a piece of the company, which means they then own a piece of the businesses that company
- 2:40owns. Is this making sense? So that's what happens when
- 2:44you first start a business. Now, a private company, when
- 2:47it's doing well, can stay private. It doesn't have
- 2:51to go public, which I'll explain in a second. And
- 2:54some wonderful businesses that stay private. You definitely don't have to
- 2:57go public. Up until recently, SpaceX is a private company. Now,
- 3:01private company just means that no one outside those private shareholders
- 3:05owns the business or owns the company. When it goes public, which
- 3:08I'll explain how that happens in a second, anyone can buy shares
- 3:12in the company. Okay, so let's say a business is
- 3:15fairly new, it's doing well. The company that owns the business,
- 3:19it can have multiple shareholders, but up to 20 in Australia, and
- 3:23it's growing so fast. Guzman Gomez was
- 3:26a good example of that. They make these amazing burritos, right? And
- 3:30it was one of the fastest growing takeaway joints in Australia.
- 3:34And they could have stayed private. But when a company or a business is
- 3:37growing, it needs money. Businesses are thirsty for
- 3:41cash. because you have to open new stores, put
- 3:44in new staff, adopt new technology. It's a lot of money to scale
- 3:48and grow a business. So there's two ways for a company to
- 3:52actually grow faster and access cash. Well,
- 3:56the very first way is to bootstrap it with its own profits. That's a
- 3:59bit slower. It takes time. So if a company wants to grow fast,
- 4:02it can do two things. One, it can borrow money. That's debt. So it can issue
- 4:06bonds, or it can just borrow from a bank. And of course, with that,
- 4:09it's got to pay 6%, 7%, 8%, 10% interest on the borrowings. That's
- 4:13one way to do it. The other way is it can issue shares, which we
- 4:16discussed. If it's really growing rapidly
- 4:20and it wants to tap into the equity markets, it will actually
- 4:25decide based on certain the size of the company, how much
- 4:28revenue and profit it's doing, the projections of where it's going,
- 4:31etc. And the propensity for investment banks to underwrite the
- 4:35float as it goes public is it will start to decide,
- 4:38okay, well, what we want to do is we don't want to borrow more money in debt, We don't
- 4:41want to bootstrap it. We wanna go to the public markets, which means we
- 4:45want to sell a lot of shares to the public. So
- 4:48what will happen is it'll go through what's called an IPO, an initial public
- 4:52offering, where its shares or ownership of the shares are
- 4:55initially offered to the public for a particular price.
- 4:59So what will happen is, it'll go through the process of listing on the specific
- 5:03stock exchange it wants to list on. So for example, in Australia, it says, well,
- 5:06we wanna list on the Australian Stock Exchange, the ASX. So it goes
- 5:09through the process to do that. It's floated on a specific day. It
- 5:12says, okay, we're now trading in the public markets. Any
- 5:16mom and dad can now buy shares in this particular business, in
- 5:19our company. And you can go on with your broking app
- 5:23and you can buy shares. For example, when Guzman Gomez floated
- 5:26in Australia, anyone could go and buy its shares. Now
- 5:30what's interesting about that is the owners of the private business or the private company,
- 5:34when it floats on the stock exchange, it typically floats
- 5:38and is offered to the public at extremely high price multiple. Think
- 5:41of it like when you buy a brand new car. Everybody knows when
- 5:45you buy a brand new car, By and large, it
- 5:48goes down in value very quickly because there's a lot of costs associated
- 5:52with selling that brand new car in a showroom. There's luxury car
- 5:56tax, there's GST, there's showroom costs, there's selling costs of
- 5:59the commission to the agent. There's all these costs built in. The same thing happens
- 6:02with the company. The investment bank has got to get paid. The owners
- 6:06want to sell for a highest price as they can. They've got the great business, like, well,
- 6:09let's sell for as much as we can. Elon Musk went through this massive
- 6:12campaign with SpaceX recently. where they were
- 6:15like pumping this, oh, we're gonna go, we're gonna mine asteroids and
- 6:19we're gonna go to Mars and then, oh, everyone's bought into this mission.
- 6:23And they sell the stock, I think it listed at $150 a share and
- 6:27it went right up and then it's come right back. I think it's 110 now, I'm not sure. But
- 6:30whenever they do an initial public offering, typically, typically, it's
- 6:34always sold over price, which is why I don't
- 6:38touch IPOs. That's just the rule.
- 6:41because you have no prices, you don't know what's worked, you can't see the books. Now
- 6:45once it goes public, they're required, the company's required to
- 6:49report quarterly earnings, revenue and earnings and profit numbers,
- 6:53et cetera, every quarter. Which means as an investor, you
- 6:57then have absolute access to the financial information. Doesn't
- 7:00mean it's always accurate either, but for most part it is, then you understand
- 7:04what you're dealing with. But until it goes public, you don't know the numbers. You
- 7:07can have an idea, right? So I don't touch
- 7:10them. Anyway, I digress. That's how shares are
- 7:14effectively created, right? That's where they come from. So
- 7:18when you then go onto a brokerage platform, and there's so many brokerage
- 7:22platforms on your phone, you can access there's tons. It enables you
- 7:25to physically put money in that account and then buy shares. If a company's
- 7:29public, you can own shares in them, right? And
- 7:32that's effectively what investing in
- 7:35shares becomes about. So that being said, why does
- 7:39one want to put money into shares? And the answer to
- 7:42that question is because, and the only answer it should be, is because that
- 7:46particular business or that particular company that is
- 7:50growing a great business is that you want
- 7:54to participate in the success of the business. That's the only reason to
- 7:57own shares. And how that came about
- 8:01originally was with the, I think it
- 8:04was the East India Company, where it was effectively the
- 8:07first business enterprise that you could buy shares in. So back
- 8:11then it was like, we've got these ships and we've got this ability to go and explore and bring back
- 8:14all these spices and minerals and different things and
- 8:18sell them in the marketplace. So they would syndicate people to basically
- 8:22syndicate the exploration. So they'd sell shares in
- 8:26the East India Company, people would put money in, the ships would sail out and
- 8:29bring back stuff, and they'd all share in the spoils of
- 8:32that. Now, if the ship came back and there was no spoils, the
- 8:36value of the shares fell or they lost their money. And that's how shares kind
- 8:39of started. It was like, well, let's share in the profits of what you discover.
- 8:44Okay. And that's now evolved since then. So there's a lot, there's a
- 8:47huge evolution of companies and businesses and
- 8:51how people like us can buy into them. Now there's a
- 8:54lot of regulation around it. They have to report specifically. They
- 8:58go to jail if there's real shenanigans going on. There's been a
- 9:01lot of market collapses and crashes. So there's definitely
- 9:04a lot more a rigor around safety of
- 9:08capital when you invest in a business. So now, I
- 9:11think there's never been a safer time to be able to deploy your capital
- 9:14into a business and get a reasonable return for it over time, because
- 9:18we have developed companies that have been around for a hundred years
- 9:21or plus or more. It's not like we're giving
- 9:25our money to a ship and saying, hey, go bring some stuff back.
- 9:28That's highly risky. Now, people still do that because you can still do
- 9:32that in a mining company. It happens all the time, like, oh, this is a junior miner
- 9:35and it's going to drill for these mines
- 9:39and then it's going to develop and explore it. And this is so risky. It's like
- 9:42having the East India Company do that. So
- 9:45there's been a lot of regulation change. The objective of one who wants to buy shares
- 9:49would want to participate in the success of a business. This is a
- 9:52very important concept to understand. Because the idea of
- 9:56investing in the essence of what it really is, is
- 9:59can I deploy my capital that I have today, and
- 10:03can I deploy it into an asset
- 10:06that can generate me returns above the rate
- 10:10of inflation on a consistent basis, safely? That
- 10:14is the entire investing essence
- 10:17wrapped up in one sentence. That's what you're trying to achieve. Now, if
- 10:21you can't predictably calculate always
- 10:26be accurate either, where you can deploy that money into a
- 10:29risk asset, so a business, a piece of real estate, whatever
- 10:32it is, where there's risk that you've got to take. So you've got to be rewarded for that risk. Now
- 10:36if, for example, let's say a term deposit, which
- 10:40is almost no risk because it's a lend to the banking institution, or
- 10:44treasury bonds, which is effectively risk-free, they
- 10:47call it the risk-free asset because there's no risk when you lend money
- 10:50to the US government, they're paying 5% interest coupons.
- 10:54So you can deploy your money at a risk-free rate of
- 10:595% a year. Pretty good. No risk, 5% a year.
- 11:02That's very good actually. In the days gone by, it's usually 2%. So
- 11:05the risk-free rate right now is very high because there seems to be
- 11:09a bit more uncertainty. There's many things that impact. I
- 11:12won't get into it now. But right now is that the US government risk-free
- 11:15assets 5%. So if you're going to deploy your money into real estate or
- 11:19into shares in a business, stocks, then you
- 11:22want to make sure that you're getting rewarded beyond
- 11:26the risk-free rate of 5% for the risk you're taking. So
- 11:29you want to be able to say, well, I want to get a 10% return. That's what you'd be
- 11:33aiming to achieve, right? And many wonderful companies can
- 11:36secure you on average a 10% plus return. They can, right?
- 11:40Many have done that, which I'll explore in a second. So that's
- 11:44your objective. Now, the reason for that too is that if you can do that
- 11:47year in, year out, year in, year out, you start to what's called compound your
- 11:51money effectively. And so money itself
- 11:54is not compounding. You're exchanging your money when
- 11:58it comes to shares for a share, a legal representative
- 12:02ownership of the business. So you're now an owner of a business. So when
- 12:05you see the money on the screen in your portfolio, it's not money. it's
- 12:08the market value of the shares that you own in the company. So
- 12:12you're now a company owner, okay? So it's not the
- 12:15money that grows, it's the company and business that grows in
- 12:18value from how much profit and revenue it can generate into the future. Now
- 12:22the more profit and revenue it can generate, it will grow very well
- 12:26and your wealth will grow with it. Now over time, if you can do that
- 12:3010% a year, 12% a year every year for a long time, you'll make
- 12:33a lot of money. That's compound interest. It's interest in the
- 12:36first year and then interest on the capital plus the interest on
- 12:39the second year. And it's an exponential return, which
- 12:43is why Albert Einstein called it the eighth wonder of the world. It's amazing when
- 12:46you can sit there and your money will compound it as
- 12:49it compounds more and more and more and more. And so that's why Charlie
- 12:53Munger said the first real objective of investor is
- 12:56to get your portfolio to six figures because at six figures, compound
- 13:00interest is starting to really help you. Like for example, you have 100K in
- 13:03your portfolio in a few stocks or in an index fund which
- 13:06we'll come to, you get 10%, that's $10,000. Now the next year, if it's 10%, it's 10% on the 110K. Right,
- 13:15which is 111. So it's a little bit more every time
- 13:19without you doing anything extra, which is why it's
- 13:22such a powerful concept to understand. It's a powerful force
- 13:27to understand. And Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett's former business partner, used
- 13:31to say, take the simple ideas and take them seriously.
- 13:35And so compound interest is a very simple idea, it's a simple force
- 13:39in the universe and I want you to take it seriously because it can have
- 13:42a huge impact on your future wealth creation, right? So
- 13:46let's now understand, now we understand that, there's
- 13:49this thing called the circle of competence and it's where you
- 13:52are competent to play. So for
- 13:55example, in the world of assets, there's bonds, there's
- 13:59real estate, there's currencies, there's precious metals, there's
- 14:02commodities, there's share, there's different types, there's options
- 14:06trading and swaps and futures and forwards. There's a
- 14:09big universe of different assets that you can deploy out there. There's even crypto and
- 14:12all that sort of jazz. There's lots. But
- 14:15in that universe, The reality is you
- 14:19shouldn't be playing or touching 95% of it.
- 14:23It's just outside your circle of competence. And
- 14:27I'll give you a statistic that'll blow you away. First and foremost, before
- 14:31I do, out of that universe of assets where I play, I
- 14:35can play in these, I'll show you where I can play, where I have enough competence to play.
- 14:39I have competence to play in real estate, individual
- 14:43shares, index funds for sure, term deposits and
- 14:47probably more so government bonds. I don't own any corporate bonds and
- 14:51that's it. Out of all
- 14:54the assets, that's where I play. The second part is
- 14:57this, and this is the statistic I was going to share with you. When
- 15:00it comes to shares, most people aren't
- 15:04equipped to own shares in individual companies, okay?
- 15:08We're going to cover on this master class, but most people aren't equipped. So,
- 15:12you might think that someone like Warren Buffett is fully equipped to understand all
- 15:16shares of all companies, and the answer is absolutely not, not even close. So
- 15:20where he plays is, let's say, and there is probably 5,000 publicly
- 15:26listed companies. That means there's 5,000 companies in
- 15:29the American stock market that, or the New York Stock Exchange, that
- 15:33you and I can buy and sell shares in, 5,000 roughly. I
- 15:36don't know the exact numbers, but it'd be about that. So 5,000 publicly
- 15:40available companies to own shares in. So it's quite
- 15:43a few, right? Now you would think someone like Warren Buffett would be like,
- 15:46oh, I can understand all those businesses. And nothing could be further from
- 15:50the truth. He has said time and time again, we are competent
- 15:53in areas and we stick to those areas. In fact, Tom Watson
- 15:57Senior, the former CEO of IBM, they interviewed
- 16:00him and they said, Tom, what makes you so effective as
- 16:04a CEO? And he said, well, I'm smart in areas and
- 16:07I stick to those areas. When it comes to shares, Warren Buffett
- 16:11has said, this is outside our circle of competence, we can't touch
- 16:14that. He's said that to a variety of different tech stocks over
- 16:18the years. But once he does understand it, he
- 16:21can play there. And it takes him a while to learn, like where
- 16:25he's competent is insurance companies, infrastructure companies, like
- 16:28railroads, et cetera, energy companies, and consumer
- 16:32goods and staples, real estate to some extent, like
- 16:35I'm talking about companies that buy and sell real estate, but it's not his jam. And
- 16:39then consumer discretionary and some tech
- 16:42stocks, but they're more like consumer goods, full ecosystem tech stocks. So
- 16:46that's his whole, out of all the companies, that's where he plays the
- 16:50best. So he stays there. If you look at his portfolio, it's
- 16:53those things. Oh, and banks. He's a very good investor in banks. So
- 16:57that's it. If you think about it, those sectors that
- 17:00I explained, it's not a wide, all-encompassing sector
- 17:04specialty. He's really good in those areas. So if I took
- 17:08all of the stocks available for him to analyze, and there was a
- 17:11hundred, his circle of competence would be 5%. This
- 17:15is the greatest investor in the world and his circle
- 17:20of competence in all the stocks is 5%. So when someone
- 17:23says to me, ìOh, Lloyd, Iíve got these stocks in this company or I found this company and blah,
- 17:27blah, blah.î Iím like, ìOh, my God. Well, one, youíre not Warren Buffett and two, even
- 17:30this would be outside his circle of competence.î So you have no business
- 17:33plan there. And you see it a lot. There was a student of mine that once said to me, ìLloyd,
- 17:37I bought shares in Virgin Galactic.î I'm like, ìOh my God.î And
- 17:40you see this a lot too with Tesla and SpaceX and people got burnt with SpaceX. ìI
- 17:43bought some shares in SpaceX.î I'm like, ìOh.î It's just
- 17:47way outside the circle of competence. So I think you need to understand that. Now, out
- 17:50of the companies that would be personally in my circle of
- 17:54competence, Well, I've got a portfolio now of eight companies
- 17:58and there's probably, I can understand to an extent, maybe
- 18:03200, but it's not a lot. It's just not a lot. It's not. So
- 18:07I think that's a very important concept for you to understand if you're going
- 18:10to be investing in individual shares. Now, if you're not going
- 18:13to invest in individual shares, which I'll come to shortly, then
- 18:17index funds is an appropriate and effective and intelligent choice
- 18:22for many reasons we'll cover. But I want to get into the nitty-gritty on this masterclass.
- 18:26I want to talk to you about what makes a good company,
- 18:30what makes shares in individual companies effective and how is
- 18:33it done correctly. And this is why this is really not ideal
- 18:36for public use because I'm going to divulge some things here
- 18:40for you that took me 15 to 20 years to learn. and
- 18:44I'm just going to give it to you. If this episode on our YouTube channel gets 1,000 views,
- 18:48I'll be very irritated, because this is
- 18:51what's taken me so long. Now, I'm not the best, but I have, for the
- 18:54last couple of years, outperformed the S&P 500. I haven't done it,
- 18:58I don't think, out of fluke. The
- 19:01old saying goes, anyone in a bull market can outperform, but We have
- 19:05outperformed this year from our oil positions, et cetera, that we owned before
- 19:08the Iran. There's things that we've like our rail positions up 20%. It's
- 19:12been the S&P 500 by itself, but no one said,
- 19:16do go and buy this. I don't get financial advice from someone
- 19:19to go and do stuff. It's all my own research. It's all my own thought process based
- 19:23on the things that I've learned that I'm going to share with you today. So how do you buy shares
- 19:27in individual companies? So here's a few rules, super
- 19:31important. One, I don't understand every company. So
- 19:34I got a buddy of mine, went to school with him, and he and I text and call and
- 19:38talk about this a lot. And he says to me, hey, what do you think about this? And
- 19:42the answer back to him is, I don't have a position on
- 19:45that. And he said to me the other day, he goes, for God's sake, don't
- 19:48make me do my own research. And the answer is, I just don't have
- 19:51an opinion on every company. Because the effort required to
- 19:55understand a business and a company, it takes hours
- 19:59and hours and thought process. For example, if
- 20:02I'm researching a new company, I want to
- 20:05read the annual report which is available on their website under the investor tab
- 20:09and I want to go through and understand it. I want to also understand
- 20:13its history. Before I bought American Express, I
- 20:16went and looked and researched a lot of its history and
- 20:20it turned out it was actually developed and founded by the
- 20:24guys that founded Wells Fargo Bank, incidentally. It used to be Pony
- 20:28Express. It's come a long way. I do
- 20:32spend a lot of time understanding a company and a business. I'm
- 20:35thoughtful about it. When I go to the gym, for example, if I'm researching a company,
- 20:39I'll literally listen and watch every YouTube clip that anyone's
- 20:43ever done on that company. I'll read all the Seeking Alpha articles on it in the comment
- 20:46section. I'll go through its annual reports. I'll do my own. It's a
- 20:49scuttlebutt. It's trying to find as much information as possible. I'll go through and scour
- 20:53X and search for that and look at other people's. I'm
- 20:56just looking for as much as I can get on it. I'm looking at what
- 20:59the super investors are buying because you can access that as public information. every
- 21:03quarter they've got to disclose what they buy. So I look at what all the
- 21:07super investors, including Warren Buffett and Chris Horn and David Tepper
- 21:10and these guys are buying, Li Lu, like I follow maybe a dozen of them. And
- 21:14I'm always scouring every quarter as to what they're buying and I try and re-engineer it
- 21:17back as to why. Now I don't always copy them and buy it, but I just want
- 21:20to know what they're thinking about. If I understand it, then
- 21:24I'm interested. But if I don't understand it, like for example Micron, which
- 21:28has gone up 10x in the last 11 years, I was looking
- 21:31at that. because I noticed that Manish Pabrai, he
- 21:35was on the Diary of a CEO, he's the Indian guy, he was on the Diary of a CEO. He's
- 21:38got a book out called The Dando Invest, a really good book. I follow him.
- 21:42I like his style and everything. He's a good teacher, but he
- 21:45bought that with Li Lu. Charlie Munger said to him, whose idea
- 21:49was the Micron idea? This was before Charlie passed away. He said, it was mine. He said, that's going to do
- 21:52well. I looked at it. I understood it. I went to see if I could understand it,
- 21:55and I couldn't understand it. And so, I didn't buy it and it went up 10x.
- 21:58And I don't worry about that because I couldn't understand it. And here's
- 22:02the thing, if you don't understand how a company or
- 22:05a business makes money, you have no business owning its shares. None.
- 22:09If you can't explain in one sentence how it makes money, You
- 22:12don't have any business owning it. And so I couldn't understand it, so I didn't touch it. And that's the trick.
- 22:16You have to understand this business. The old saying, if
- 22:19you couldn't safely and securely put
- 22:22your entire net worth in these shares of this company, you don't understand
- 22:26it well enough. Because that's the type of quality business you want to look for.
- 22:30So when it comes to a quality business, here's what you want to look for. One,
- 22:34do you understand how it makes money? If you don't understand that, you
- 22:37don't even touch it. But two, is
- 22:40it high quality? And high quality means, can it generate returns
- 22:44on its own capital well above the equity
- 22:48risk rate? So the capital that's got from its selling its shares and so forth, can
- 22:51it generate returns beyond, you know, 15 to
- 22:5620%? Can it do that? And can it do it consistently? And this is
- 22:59probably the most important factor when it comes
- 23:03to investing in shares. Because what I learnt the hard way that I'm
- 23:06sharing with you right now is, The quality of a company
- 23:10is even more important than its price. It took me forever
- 23:13to learn that because what I was looking for all the time was bargains. I was looking for a great
- 23:17company that's extremely undervalued and they're just great companies like
- 23:20Costco, American Express, Google, Apple, Visa,
- 23:24MasterCard. Moody's, whatever. These
- 23:28really good high quality companies, they seldom sell
- 23:31for cheap multiples, which means they're always selling for
- 23:35a multiple of 20 times earnings, 30 times earnings, etc. So
- 23:39for example, like right now American Express, which is a great company, it has
- 23:42a return on invested capital of 30% a
- 23:45year, which is amazing. So it has the same risk profile
- 23:49as like Bank of America or Wells Fargo Bank or Commonwealth Bank, whatever. Same
- 23:52risk profile. But its return on capital is like triple Commonwealth
- 23:56Bank. So it can return 30% of its invested capital
- 24:00to shareholders every year. But it's selling for a
- 24:03multiple of 20. or 19, four times earnings. It's very,
- 24:07very well priced for a company that can do that, that
- 24:10has been around for 150 years and doing that. So
- 24:14the quality of the business is the first most important thing. Now
- 24:18if there's a quality business, like let's take Costco for example, one of
- 24:21the highest quality companies and businesses on the planet. It's one of the few businesses
- 24:25that is immune to Amazon's disruption. It
- 24:29sells items and it sets price based on
- 24:32those items and it has a select number of brands and it has its own home
- 24:35brand too in its stores. And it sells it for a margin, but
- 24:39it doesn't sell it for any more margin than 14%. So
- 24:42it doesn't price gauge any of its customers. But what's fascinating about that is
- 24:46it can cut and be the price leader in the world because
- 24:50of the volumes it sells, but also because of this. It
- 24:53can sell items at the cheapest possible price. because
- 24:57it doesn't increase margin but most importantly because it makes its margin from
- 25:00its memberships. So that's where it makes its margin.
- 25:05It's amazing. And so it's almost
- 25:08impossible for other companies to penetrate and compete with it. And
- 25:12this is what you're looking for when it comes to a great business. Basically you're
- 25:15looking for a monopoly. You're looking for a business that's impossible to
- 25:19compete with and disrupt. That's the reality. Now, if you start
- 25:22there, you're going to pay a high price for those companies because they are highly priced.
- 25:26And it took me forever to learn that. So now, what I look for is I look
- 25:30at the companies I want to own and I only want to own six to eight companies. Charlie
- 25:33Munger used to say that to be diversified, you've only got to own three. And
- 25:37I think he owned Berkshire, Costco and Bank of
- 25:40America, Wells Fargo, that's pretty much it, three or four. Because
- 25:43if you think about it, if you owned those four companies outright, you'd
- 25:48be very diversified. If you owned a McDonald's business up the road, a
- 25:51laundromat or a couple of those, and then a piece of real estate and
- 25:55then something, you've diversified. So when you own three
- 25:59great quality companies, you are already diversified. You own
- 26:02three different businesses. If someone owned three small businesses, you would say that they're pretty
- 26:05diversified. Why is it any different in stocks? It's not. as
- 26:09long as they're high quality companies, right? Now, Warren Buffett and
- 26:12Charlie Munger have said, you only have to find six to eight great
- 26:16businesses in your entire life and you'll get rich. Even
- 26:19Peter Lynch used to say that too. So why would I go out
- 26:22and try and find 20 stocks or 30 stocks? And people do this in their portfolio, 20 stocks,
- 26:2630 stocks. It's like, what? You're not gonna outperform the S&P 500 if
- 26:29you do that. You may as well just own the, if you wanna be fully diversified, like
- 26:33own the top 500 companies, you may as well just own something like the S&P 500. And
- 26:37by the way, that's done really well and will continue to do well over the longterm. I
- 26:40think since 1957, that index fund specifically has returned
- 26:4410% per annum on average. It's amazing, but doing nothing. We'll
- 26:48come to that in a second. But I just want to explain this to you. So the quality of
- 26:51the company matters. So does it have a high
- 26:54return on invested capital? Now recently, as an example, it took Warren
- 26:57Buffett, because I think Google listed in 2002 or 2000, and it
- 27:02took him 26 years to buy shares in Google. Think
- 27:05about that. Because he didn't have any certainty around the quality of
- 27:08the business. Now since Google listed, which was initially for its search business, It
- 27:12has developed search to be 90% market
- 27:16share. It's Android operating system to be like 90%, some
- 27:19huge number of the smartphone. I don't think it's 90, but it's a lot of the smartphone
- 27:23market in the operating system. It owns a big market share. People
- 27:27don't know that. It's cloud businesses are now huge. It's
- 27:30a huge business and progressively getting better. It's got YouTube.
- 27:33It owns YouTube. Thanks, Google, for YouTube. Pays us the money.
- 27:37It owns search, of course, still, as I mentioned that. Waymo,
- 27:41it's got it owns actually like 7% I think of anthropic it
- 27:44owns about 7% of SpaceX incidentally anyway look It's
- 27:48got a chip. It's a what's happened in that time frame. It's become a fully integrated. It's
- 27:52obviously got AI Gemini It's been a it's now a fully integrated
- 27:55ecosystem so with its subscriptions and everything like that It's gonna email like
- 27:59you pick up Google, and it's got like five or six really
- 28:03world-class businesses in one So when you own a share of Google, you're
- 28:07effectively owning multiple businesses in one. So that's something that Warren
- 28:10Buffett's done. He's looked for ecosystems. He did that with Apple. Apple's got
- 28:13the App Store, it's got the phone, it's got this, it's got that, it's got the, you know, it's multiple
- 28:17businesses in one. So he bought Google recently and
- 28:20now, it will now be on the next quarterly report, it'll be his third
- 28:24biggest position, just behind Apple and American Express. And
- 28:27so if you think about that, why? Because Google not
- 28:32only has its return on invested capital been about 20-25% for a
- 28:35number of years, but now you can see if you look, you
- 28:38can see it's growing to 30-35% on its way to just reported
- 28:4352%. So it's actually not just having a high return on capital, but the return
- 28:47on invested capital is growing very quickly. And
- 28:50that's, in my understanding of the research I've done over the last 15-20
- 28:53years, that's what gets Warren Buffett's
- 28:57attention. Now, he likes to buy them when they're selling for
- 29:0010 times earnings, which seldom happens, if ever. He
- 29:03bought American Express at 7 times earnings when the salad oil scandal happened. He
- 29:07bought it back again. Anyway, he likes to buy it cheap.
- 29:11The highest quality company is cheap, but you seldom do it. Recently, he
- 29:15bought Google at 25 times earnings. Now, for Warren Buffett,
- 29:19that's extremely expensive. But he's realized it
- 29:22doesn't matter as much because the quality of the business is
- 29:26so good that in the next 20 and 30 years that price is
- 29:29going to look ridiculously cheap. So as long as you're not
- 29:32buying it for 50 times earnings, like Costco right now for example, the
- 29:36reason I haven't touched Costco, brilliant business. is 47 times
- 29:40earnings, which means it would take 47 years for it to earn itself back. It's
- 29:43just too expensive. It's not growing its earnings fast enough, but
- 29:47something like Google at 20, 25 times earnings, growing its, you know, it
- 29:50just grew its earnings at 296%. What the hell? I mean, it had unrealized
- 29:54gains in its other businesses, but its operating earnings, let's
- 29:57just go there, grew by 82%. Yeah. So
- 30:02it's cheap at 24. That's what Warren's seeing, right? So
- 30:05the PE multiple, can look expensive if
- 30:09it's high, but if the earnings are growing very robustly, like
- 30:12at 50% or more, it can actually look quite cheap. So gotta be
- 30:16careful of that. What you gotta look for is high quality return on
- 30:19invested capital. Is it growing the ROIC, right,
- 30:23return on invested capital? And is it growing its earnings consistently? Does it
- 30:26have multiple businesses that minimizes the risk of just one competitor
- 30:30taking it? And what else? Does it have manageable debt? Is
- 30:35it growing its revenue top line as well? And this is very
- 30:38important before I move into index funds. Does it have
- 30:42a durable competitive advantage that
- 30:45it can't be competed away with? For example, Blockbuster, it
- 30:49had an advantage, but it lost it when it didn't buy Netflix and Netflix destroyed it.
- 30:54Kodak, destroyed. Blackberry, destroyed. It's still a real company.
- 30:57So you've got to look at these companies. If they don't innovate
- 31:00and evolve, or not even innovate, but if their business model can
- 31:04be attacked by another business and it can disintegrate its competitive edge, the
- 31:07return of investor capital drops massively and the shares fall massively and
- 31:10it loses its edge. This happens a lot in capitalism. Capitalism is
- 31:14designed to destroy companies. Because they're always competing
- 31:18with new, like if there's profits to be made in an area, people
- 31:22are clamoring in to compete there. That's happening in AI right now. So
- 31:25you've got to be in a company like, I'll rattle off a few for you so you can understand
- 31:28what I mean. The reason we own a railroad company, the leading railroad company
- 31:32in the world, is because you can't easily replace 32,000 miles
- 31:35of railroad. So it's not, there's not easy substitutes. Does
- 31:39that make sense? That's what I'm looking for. So monopoly, reasonably
- 31:43priced, high return on invested capital, great brand, less
- 31:48debt, cash in the bank can cover this. What's the downside? It
- 31:52can manage this downside. And if you've ticked all those boxes, and there's a
- 31:55few to tick, You come to like 20 or 30 great companies that
- 31:58you can touch. And that's why I don't really have, I don't have a big portfolio.
- 32:01I don't need it. So look, I've probably divulged enough there when it comes to individual companies.
- 32:05I know you probably want to move on to the next thing, but this is, I'm giving you some stuff here that I've
- 32:08learned. Like it's just gold. This is worth thousands and
- 32:11thousands of dollars that I'm just throwing up here, just so you know. Now,
- 32:16if you don't want to go to the gym like me and do your workout and listen
- 32:19to earnings reports, if you're not going to do that and you're not going to listen and
- 32:22you want to be thoughtful, for example, S&P Global just
- 32:26released its earnings report and there's a snapshot of the summary of
- 32:29what it did really well. But I was salivating
- 32:33to read it, the earnings report. Now if you're not in that frame
- 32:37of mind and you're not curious, if you have no agency to pick up
- 32:40the quarterly disclosure of the super investors or you're not curious enough to
- 32:44listen to 15 YouTube deep dives while you're in the gym about this
- 32:47one company, if you're not interested in business, if you're not interested in
- 32:50the competitive environment, if you're not interested in reading all the books that I read about, if you're not interested
- 32:53in any of that, you have, listen, you have no business
- 32:58owning individual stocks, zero. Don't even
- 33:01pretend. Don't even play with yourself. My buddy sitting
- 33:05there goes, ìMan, you know what? I really shouldn't be owning
- 33:08individuals.î He knows. I was like, ìYeah, probably right.î
- 33:12If you're not going to do your own research, how do you play the game? Warren
- 33:16Buffett, to finish off this episode. I know it's a longer one, but I hope
- 33:20you're enjoying this. If you're enjoying this, getting value from this, comment below. I'd
- 33:24be curious to know. By the way, let me throw this nugget out there. My
- 33:27portfolio is based on a hundred year portfolio and how I approach it
- 33:31is, what are the six to eight companies that I only want to own for the next hundred
- 33:34years, that will still be around in a hundred years, that have a high heroic, low debt, blah, blah,
- 33:37blah. And they're the ones I own now, they're the ones I'll only ever own. So
- 33:41when you get this right, you literally don't have to own any other companies, which
- 33:44means when they force you to buy more. This is how you
- 33:47outperform the S&P 500. This is a layup.
- 33:52The reason I'm laying it up, you're like, why are you saying this? Because I
- 33:55know that most of you won't go out and do the work. Not that I
- 33:58don't want you to, I want those, the 2% that understand this, kudos,
- 34:02awesome, well done, happy to serve you. But I also want to frame
- 34:06this in a way so you realize why I bang
- 34:09on so much about index funds and probably why Warren Buffett does too is because Most
- 34:13people aren't equipped to do this investing game in individual shares, nor
- 34:17should they. So how do you play the game? Well, you go and you understand index funds.
- 34:20Now, index funds are very basic. They're very easy to understand. Jack Bogle invented them
- 34:24in the 1970s. He was the founder of Vanguard Group, which is
- 34:27a company, and they developed the first index fund. Now, an index fund is pretty simple to
- 34:31understand. It's a fund where everyone's money goes and they
- 34:34take it and they deploy it into these shares in the
- 34:37market for you. in a way that's
- 34:41weighted based on the biggest companies, that's automatically recalibrated
- 34:45through computers for you, that mimics, that
- 34:49replicates as close as possible to the performance of
- 34:52a particular index. An index is
- 34:55a point system attached to the broader market of
- 34:59the constituents of the index. So for example, Standard & Poor's,
- 35:03people called S&P, Standard & Poor's is a real company, called S&P Global,
- 35:07they rate their rating agency, and
- 35:11they created the index. And many years ago, like
- 35:14a hundred years ago, they created the S&P
- 35:20500 index. Now that's an index with points that tracks the
- 35:23performance of the top 500 companies domiciled in North America who are publicly listed. That's
- 35:27what it does. So there's a number attached to it. So when you turn on the screen in
- 35:30Bloomberg, it's like the market, as they call it, the
- 35:33S&P 500 index is up 45 points today. That's
- 35:37because they're tracking the performance of those constituents in the index by
- 35:41numbers. And they're just tracking the performance of the broader market. So
- 35:45500, the central limit theorem in statistics suggests that if you've got a sample of 30, a
- 35:49distribution approach is normal, which means you don't have to have much more
- 35:52than a sample of 30 to give a statistically significant
- 35:56data set. So there's 500 in the S&P 500. plenty
- 36:00to give you a bit of a broad idea of the market. That's why the Dow
- 36:04Jones has 30 constituents or stocks in it, the
- 36:07Dow Jones, the index of that is because 30 needs to be there to be statistically
- 36:10significant so they can tell you the market's up or down. I'm
- 36:14getting a bit detailed here but stay with me. So the index
- 36:18is not the fund. The index is a performance measure
- 36:23of the stock market. that S&P created. Now,
- 36:27when Vanguard created an S&P 500 fund,
- 36:32it said, hey, mum and dad investors, we know it's hard
- 36:35to pick individual stocks, we know it takes work and effort, and we
- 36:39know that 90% of professional money managers can't beat the
- 36:44Is there a woman on planet Earth that manages more money from an investing capacity than
- 36:48Maybe not. My God. How has she gone on to die over CEO? I'm
- 36:52overseeing nearly $30 billion. What the hell? She's lost more
- 36:57This is all you need to know. Cathie Wood built a multi-billion dollar fund by spotting trends
- 37:01She's absolutely opposite of a good investor. And now, with over four years
- 37:04of market insight, she's showing you how and where to invest too. She's categorized the
- 37:07worst investor of all time, yet she's on die over CEO.
- 37:11What the hell, man? She hasn't even beaten the S&P 500. Stephen Bartlett,
- 37:14get me on. And there's lots of great small-time
- 37:19investors that beat the S&P 500, right? Now, it's arguably
- 37:22easier to do with smaller capital, but she's just awful at it. Just so you know, don't
- 37:26follow her. What was I getting to? Okay, so an index fund. So
- 37:30Vanguard and BlackRock and these fund managers, there's a lot of them, let's say probably
- 37:3450 fund managers out there. They have said, well, mom
- 37:38and dads, give us your money and we'll invest it
- 37:41for you specifically into those companies that are in the S&P 500 in
- 37:45a specific weight and we'll manage it for you at 0.15% fee,
- 37:49which is nothing. It's almost zero for nothing. We'll
- 37:53do this for you for 0.15% fee. You don't even see it.
- 37:56It's so small and we'll do it for you. And you're
- 37:59like, oh my God, this is the greatest invention of all time in the history of finance.
- 38:03Oh my God, thanks Jack Bogle. Here's my money. And
- 38:07this is what's been happening. And that's why you see now most people
- 38:10buying an index fund. Now, when you own shares in an index fund, like
- 38:13the S&P 500 index fund, with a company like Vanguard, or
- 38:18like BlackRock, or like Fidelity, whoever you decide
- 38:21to go with, all these fund managers have an S&P 500 index fund. You're
- 38:25basically buying a share, one
- 38:28share of the index fund is basically buying 500 shares, 500 different companies
- 38:32in one. It's amazing. It's like having a
- 38:35basket of stocks, a basket of 500, which means this, listen
- 38:38up very closely, for you to lose money, when you own that,
- 38:43two things can happen. One, there's a market collapse
- 38:46like COVID where it fell 30% in a number of weeks and
- 38:50it falls. And because you haven't listened to this channel or
- 38:53follow me or got any help or read book, whatever, and
- 38:56you're not educated and you shit the bed, which
- 39:00happens because you read the paper too much and listen to your neighbor and you sell.
- 39:04at the bottom like an idiot, you're gonna lose money. And if you do, you deserve
- 39:08to. So, suffer in your jocks. You're an idiot. If
- 39:11you can't handle that, don't even touch stocks. Just go and
- 39:14buy your house and go buy real estate and be there and be okay and get a turn deposit. And
- 39:19Charlie among you say, and you'll get the average returns you deserve because you
- 39:22can't manage your emotions. 500 of the best companies ever
- 39:26to exist in the world. You own a share in the S&P 500, you basically own
- 39:29a share of the best 500 companies ever to exist on planet Earth, ever. And
- 39:33not only that, when one is sick and
- 39:36falls and dies, it's replaced by one of
- 39:40the best, forever, at 0.15%. It's crazy
- 39:43good. So the other way for you to lose money is this. This is
- 39:47the other way that you could lose money. The planet could get
- 39:50hit by a huge asteroid. Think about it. For
- 39:53you to lose money, those 500 companies have to go broke on the same day. Now
- 39:57for that to happen, asteroid, or the sun explodes and we die. Now in
- 40:00that case, no one cares about your money. So, if
- 40:03you understand that, that's why it should just be such an
- 40:06easy decision. Since 1957, this particular
- 40:10fund has returned 10.26%, which is above the
- 40:13rate of inflation, it's above the risk-free rate, and
- 40:17by all accounts, you know, risk in academic
- 40:20parlance, when you go through financial courses at university and so forth, the
- 40:24financial department, the academia, they call risk beta, and
- 40:27risk is where They measure risk as the movement
- 40:31of volatility of an asset. Now, of course, if you've got a public
- 40:34auction market, which is what the stock market is, it's an auction market, which is bidding and
- 40:37selling. When you're buying shares in an index fund, you're not buying them off the fund directly.
- 40:41You're buying them off Mary Sue who's selling them on her own brokerage. You're buying secondhand. It's
- 40:45the secondhand market. It's an auction-driven secondhand market, like real estate,
- 40:48right? It's just that there's offers and bids every second.
- 40:52There's lots of volume. There's huge liquidity in the American stock market.
- 40:56You can catch a bid for anything. And so it's easy to buy
- 41:00and sell shares. But it's an auction. Of course, in an auction
- 41:03market with highly liquid market, with great quality companies,
- 41:07of course you're going to have prices move around like this. This is why you
- 41:10see it on the screen go up and down like this. But just because the price moves up
- 41:13and down doesn't mean anything. It doesn't. You've
- 41:17got to understand that the extent to which you make money in stocks is
- 41:21correlated with the performance of the
- 41:24business. That's why Ben Graham, who is Warren Buffett's
- 41:28mentor, said, in the short term, the stock market's
- 41:31a voting machine. In the long term, it's a
- 41:35weighing machine, which means the price will eventually oscillate around
- 41:39the earnings of the business. So if the earnings are shit, Guess
- 41:43what? The price will eventually follow, which is why I don't own Tesla stocks.
- 41:47But if the performance is really good, eventually the price
- 41:50will follow, okay? Okay, why I still own Alibaba four years
- 41:54in, because the earnings are growing. And you watch, it'll just go vroom one
- 41:57day. You may not believe me, but. So you have to understand the long-term, so
- 42:01it's not a year, it can sometimes be 10 years. Microsoft took 13 years
- 42:05for the price to match the earnings, 13. And people made
- 42:08a fortune, 5X, bang! But you gotta have patience, which
- 42:11is why Warren Buffet said most people shouldn't own stocks, you gotta have patience. So
- 42:15if you understand this, looking at the S&P, like an index fund, there's
- 42:19multiple, there's like the NASDAQ, it follows the top 100 non-financial
- 42:23companies listed on the NASDAQ exchange, which is a digital exchange. And
- 42:27you got the S&P 500. So there's this index fund. Now, if you invest money there, and
- 42:31you consistently add to it over time, and you can think it may not
- 42:34get 10.26 in a few, but it might get nine. It might get nine. I mean, pretty
- 42:38richly valued at the minute, but it's not crazy. It's not like 50 times earnings
- 42:42to buy the S&P 500. So look, I don't know what the performance is
- 42:45going to be in the next year or two years or three years, but I do know over the
- 42:48next 20, 30 and 40 years, the performance of that is
- 42:51going to be amazing because businesses, listen up, businesses
- 42:56are the best wealth building vehicles in the
- 43:00world, period. How would I know that? Go and look at the Forbes 400, the
- 43:04400 or 400 wealthiest people in the world. All of them, all
- 43:08of them, got there through business. I
- 43:11don't see a crypto person up there. I don't see a
- 43:15FX trader up there. I don't see a currency trader,
- 43:18I don't see a binary options trader up there, I don't see, I don't. They're
- 43:22all business owners. So business is the preeminent asset
- 43:25to own for wealth creation. Fact. So
- 43:28of course if you own the top 500 index fund over time, of course it's gonna
- 43:32outperform gold. Of course it's gonna outperform crypto, shitcoin. Of
- 43:35course it's gonna outperform real estate, of course. Because they're
- 43:39better creators of value in the world than anything else. That's
- 43:42why they're valuable, right? You're better off to own shares in app. That creates
- 43:46more value in the world than gold. That's why
- 43:49this is such a valuable company, which is why it's up 50% this year.
- 43:5350, can you believe that? Apple, it's up 50 because
- 43:57it's the best creator of value in the world. That's why I get
- 44:00on this podcast and I talk here and people give me You guys are
- 44:04super kind in the comments. Thank you. Come around. Obviously, the audience agrees
- 44:08with my values. But when we first started, and
- 44:11I started slamming shitcoin and gold, and by the way, silver's way down since we've done it.
- 44:15I'm not just pulling it out of my ass. I'm saying these
- 44:18are economic facts over time. But most
- 44:22people aren't looking and reading about that, they're just, oh, gold's up,
- 44:25I'm gonna run after this, then run after that, run after, that's just how they are, right? And
- 44:28so this is why I'm such a strong
- 44:32firm investor in stocks, and I have owned index funds
- 44:35in the past for sure, but I feel like I know enough to beat
- 44:39the market, and I have so far, this year beating the market again, and last
- 44:42year beat the market, so I think I can do it long term. I like to play
- 44:45the game too, right? Which is why most of our net worth is
- 44:48in stocks. So when people say to me, Lloyd, you've told us not
- 44:52to buy this and not to buy that, not to buy this. What do you own? And the
- 44:55answer is stocks. Even when Jeremy Grantham the other day was on Diver's CEO.
- 44:59Don't own US stocks. That's a simple strategy that you can act on.
- 45:07And if you have a big position in US technology stuff, my personal advice
- 45:13Anyway, I'm going way off track here. The whole idea is to treat
- 45:16stocks or shares in a company how you would if you own the whole company.
- 45:20You don't buy and sell companies instantly like that. Like our laundromat, I
- 45:23want to sell that for the next 20 years. It's a great business. And I just use the laundromat
- 45:27all the time because it's a simple business to understand. But we have got five companies, five
- 45:31businesses in five different companies. I want all of
- 45:34them to last next 20, 30 years, but how I own
- 45:38stocks is the same. I want to own my American Express stocks for
- 45:41the next 100 years. Literally, our portfolio is called our 100-year
- 45:44portfolio. I was going to write a book on it, but that's how I approach it
- 45:48because if you approach it like that, you're going to be solid. You're
- 45:52going to have a strong foundation. What I'm teaching you and sharing you on this episode, by
- 45:55the way, No one gets this information. This is a
- 45:58packaged piece of information, things I've learned in 20 years. I
- 46:03hope you're finding this valuable. You may send this to someone. Great if you
- 46:06do. So how do we wrap this up? You buy and sell shares through
- 46:09a brokerage account. You can add an app on your phone. please don't ask me
- 46:13in the comments or DM me on Instagram asking me to recommend your brand. I'm
- 46:16not gonna do that. I'm not here to recommend financial products. I'm
- 46:19not here to give financial advice. I'm here to educate you and give you
- 46:23a framework or a mindset and some lessons,
- 46:27some guardrails. and some information that's
- 46:31easy for you to digest without you reading 50 books, even
- 46:34though I still want you to go read the 50 books. It's just, I hope this has
- 46:38helped you understand why Warren Buffett has said multiple
- 46:42times at his Berkshire shareholder meeting that we're at last year, we saw him retire
- 46:45last year, stand up, get a 10-minute standing ovation. We're in Omaha. It was awesome. The
- 46:49reason why he said in his will to his wife, when
- 46:53I die, I want you to put the money that you do get into the S&P
- 46:57500 index fund. I think he says that one. Because
- 47:01he understands that 90% of people can't beat it.
- 47:05Now, if you understand these things, These are the types of market signals
- 47:09out there that you'd follow with your own research, with
- 47:13your own understanding of risk profile and understanding of, you know, your
- 47:16ability to handle risk and movement of asset prices, this is all
- 47:19up to you. But you can see why he doesn't say, Asher, go
- 47:23buy gold, go buy this, because he's not, because he's smart.
- 47:27In fact, he's so smart his IQ would boil soup. This
- 47:31is the greatest investor who's ever lived, in his will, to his wife
- 47:34who he loves, to telling her what to do. Now, if you can't
- 47:37pick that up and run with that, you've got rocks in your head. I don't know what to tell you. What
- 47:40do you want? What else do you want? This
- 47:44is why it's so simple to see how to manage money in this world. It's so easy.
- 47:48It's easy. And how it's easy is you knock out all the bullshit noise that's out
- 47:51there. This is part of the process of getting good with your finances, is
- 47:54the ability to ignore the bullshit. And
- 47:57there's a lot of bullshit. There's a lot of shit on Instagram,
- 48:01it's everywhere, right? Let me finish like this. And
- 48:06I know I've said don't buy, like the market's supposed to be bad in real
- 48:09estate right now, but if you were to buy a home, much
- 48:12less than what the bank will lend you the money for, and you owned it outright, you
- 48:16never leveraged against it, you just held it, a paid off home, shelter,
- 48:20especially in Australia with CGT free gains, that makes
- 48:24some sense. If you have that, you wouldn't rush around and destroy that.
- 48:27If you're on the way to that, great. Would I
- 48:30go and buy multiple residential property investments? No chance. It's another episode.
- 48:34If you had a home you paid off that was well within your
- 48:38budget, so the home didn't own you, great, and you kept it for a long
- 48:41time and lived there for a long time, like Warren Buffett lived in his house for 65 years. That
- 48:45makes sense. If you built or bought a business that
- 48:48enables you to generate profits to release yourself from a job, that
- 48:52makes sense. If you haven't got that, I encourage it, hugely
- 48:55encourage it. That's how you get financial freedom the fastest. It's not through stocks.
- 49:00Then, once you're on the path to that, and perhaps you have that, and
- 49:03you wanted to deploy and build your capital and do it in a passive way,
- 49:08stocks specifically, if you do your own research, an
- 49:11indexing strategy makes sense for most people. And if you did that, you'd
- 49:15scale your wealth without scaling your problems. If you had those three things in
- 49:18place, paid off home within budget, a
- 49:22business that was able to generate income for you that you didn't get tied to
- 49:25an employee, so you have some level of freedom and ability to scale, and you
- 49:28had a portfolio, and you effectively moved to reduce your
- 49:32debt across those and manage your debt, you're going to be so
- 49:35solid, not just for you, but for generations to come in how you manage money.
- 49:39So how you take this information and deploy it into that is, well, do I have
- 49:43these going on? And if I'm going to invest in stocks, have I taken this
- 49:46episode that Lloyd did, a masterclass on investing, thought about it, and
- 49:49actually understand now what I own? And can I have patience with
- 49:52it to do it for 20, 30, 40, 50 years? And can I teach my kids this? This
- 49:56is why I was talking to a guy the other day. In fact, we had some new machines delivered
- 50:00to our laundromat. And by the way, if
- 50:03you know anyone selling one, let me know. We're going to buy another one. He
- 50:06said, you know, it'd be good to be able to talk more about money and finance. I'm
- 50:09like, listen, man, money and finance is fucking easy. It's easy. It's
- 50:14simple. Buy a house, small and paid off, get a
- 50:17business, and put the balance of profits you make into
- 50:20shares and just leave it. And you just be rich. That's pretty much
- 50:24financial 101. But everyone wants to make it harder than it
- 50:27is. They're flapping around, planning outside their zone of competence, worried about
- 50:30what people think of them and blah, blah. So anyway.
- 50:34I could go on forever. As you can see, this episode, I
- 50:37could talk about this forever. This is my wheelhouse. This is my jam. And on
- 50:41our show, I've spoken about property to the cows come home, because I just want
- 50:44people, because it seems to have done really popular topic in Australia. But
- 50:48now it's time to shift it and go, hey, this is what I'm good at. This is what I do.
- 50:52This is my wheelhouse. This is my jam. This is my space. And this is why I can talk about
- 50:55it forever. This is why I've got books on it. This is why I do it.
- 50:59So if you wanna learn this stuff, stay tuned, because we're gonna do more
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