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AEW Dynamite Preview June 12, 2024 | Disco Dax! · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for addition with the
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AAW fan Hub podcast team. This is Kelson and this is Alex and the
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first bit of news I think we're gonna talk about tonight. Going back to
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last week, we talked about Becky Lynch notable free agents in the wrestling landscape.
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Last week, we mostly all agreed there's like a zero point one percent
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chance of Becky Lynch ever showing up in AW. But there's a new name,
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Ricochet, who I think I would put it at like ninety nine percent
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chance. Maybe maybe not that high, maybe seventy five percent chance, but
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I think there's a really high chance that he shows up in AW. I
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think he's like a Tony Kahan guy. He's you know p WG New Japan
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Dragon Gate Kakara back in the day. You know, He's like an indie
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guy that that Tony Khan I think has an affinity for Andy of the style
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that I think fits in well with a lot of the AEW guys, specifically
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Will Osprey, who I think is mentioned Ricochet specifically is the guy that he
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wants to work with again. Yeah, yeahs have you ever seen Ricochet?
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Russell Alex. Yeah, I have. I've seen I saw that. There
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was I think twenty seventeen or maybe even twenty fifteen where he fought Will Osprey
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in New Japan. I've seen that whole match, and that matches funny because
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it caused a big stir at the time with like older wrestlers coming out and
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saying, this isn't real wrestling, it's just you know, acrobatics in ballet,
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and it ended up leading to a match between will ospran Vader because Vader
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with outspoken about that match in particular. But yeah, I've seen a few
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matches, indie matches. I haven't actually seen any of his matches in WWE.
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I don't think, Yeah, what about you something. Have you seen
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Richochet in action? I've seen him a few times. I mean, he
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would fit in with a lot of the younger guys, and you know,
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he's a high flyer. He would. I'm I'm not that sold on him.
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Uh, he just I don't know he would. He definitely would fit
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in with him, but I don't know so much to He's somebody that I
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would look forward to coming in, but you know, new Blood, Yeah,
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I'm gonna be honest, with you. I've never seen that dude wrestle
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once in my lifetime. I saw the match posted with him and will Osprey,
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but I just didn't look at it. He was a guy like back
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in the day when YouTube was kind of early on and you would watch wrestling
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videos that it was like the top ten moves of this wrestler and top ten
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moves of like Kevin Stein and he would do like the package pile driver,
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and then you'd watch the ricochet one and he would do like a double moon
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salt off the top ropes where he's flipping backwards twice, like he had some
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crazy stuff. So that's kind of I think where I was first exposed to
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him, But he was being in Luca Underground too. He was kind of
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the main babyface Prince Puma, so he's definitely been around. Did they still
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make those top ten moves of you can still find them? Any new ones?
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Maybe not something that we could do like the top ten moves of Eddie
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King never mind, Yeah, no, I those those were the best video
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back in the way. Yeah. Yeah, they didn't do it anymore,
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and I'm sure it's like copyrighted and blah blah blah, but yeah, you
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could definitely do some good ones for like Brian Cage and stuff like that.
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Yeah, maybe, uh yeah. You know, it's interesting because we posted
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there was well we didn't post about. Other people posted thoughts about Ricochet on
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aw fan up subreddit and on the Greatness of Wrestling subreddit and pretty much everybody
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was that gooing. You were saying, Alex is that Ricochet seems to be
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a little bit more suited to the aw style because he was kind of lost
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in you know, in WWE. Yeah, he just fit. He He
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is like a bad promo. I know, I don't know if he's gotten
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better because I really haven't been watching WWE, but like I've seen some of
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his promos and he's like among the worst I've ever heard. That's why everybody
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wants him to come back. Is Prince Puma all masked up so he don't
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talk m and there's a lot of managers in ae W and and stuff like
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that that they can lean on. It's not it's just a different atmosphere than
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WWE, so he can do he can play to his strength I think a
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lot better. But and another thing about him is he is older for a
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high flyer, Like he's thirty five, I think, And yeah, that
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kind of style is rough on your knees and your body, So you know,
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I think I think he'll be an interesting addition, if you know,
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he can build on what I've heard a lot of same stuff too, you
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know, and that's it's just one of those things where he never really got
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a break in WWE because he just didn't fit in and you know, he
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had nothing. They they got got him the Speed title. He's the first
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Speed title champion, which okay, so you know, it's one of those
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things. But yeah, he's always been I've always heard people say he's a
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great wrestler, but he just was never used. All right, so let's
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move on. We had a little bit of a video yesterday that that's Hardwood
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posted on Twitter or X. I still can't call it X no, it
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sounds like a half baked porno X No. It should be triple X.
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You know, it's just it's a oldie. Yeah. So anyway, that's
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Hardwood posted that he's been wrestling for the last a few months with a lower
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back injury that he kept to himself. I assumed he didn't even tell Cash
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Wheeler about it, and it just got so bad over the last well,
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it shut his bed bad, but it's gotten unbearable and he finally came clean.
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So Dax Hartwood is out of action. Uh, And then of course
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we had the the Twitter war of sorts, I guess between Dak's Hartwood and
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the incomparable Disco Inferno. Geez, just irrelevant, mister, Yeah. You
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you only hear about him when it's something bad. I don't know if he
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has if he's part of like Busted Open Radio or he has his own podcast.
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Yeah, and he's trying to get his cred. He tries to make
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it seem like he was important. And that's every time he says something.
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He has an opinion, and then he specifically looks for and hunts for things
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to back that up and normally takes everything out of context. For example,
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the whole Dax thing, he's saying that if he was rustling, he said
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basically, if he's wrestling hurt, and then it's that's bad back that's bad
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back backstage, and he's not taking care of his people. And even though
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Dak said he didn't tell anybody, you know, so he's he tries to
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turn everything and manipulate it so that he sounds like a genius. He's a
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he's the younger Jim Cornett that could dance. He's not. He's not He's
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not as talented as Jim Cornett. That's yeah, Like, like, are
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they supposed to force every guy to go through like a X ray scanner after
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every match or something? Yeah, you can't know and let someone reports it.
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So it's just stupid. It's interesting, it is. It's stupid,
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you know, but it was stupid on the point part of Dak's hardwood too,
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that was Yeah, that's inexcusably inexcusably stupid. I mean, what are
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you trying to do? Man? You know, hurt, there's nothing wrong
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with being hurt. Dax gets a lot of flak because he's one of these
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guys that just says every single thing that comes to his mind. He wants
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it all out there, like there's no reason for him to go out and
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tell the world that he hid an injury and all this stuff. But he
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just doesn't know how to operate any differently. So I love him for it.
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But yeah, it's like he's a little bit of a The league ultimately
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top guys out, Yeah, yeah, and maybe we get some singles matches
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with Cash Wheeler. I think he's really awesome as a singles wrestler, and
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we never get to see it. U he has a dive that puts that
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rivals Darby Allen's own. So yeah, hopefully we see some of him while
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Dax's is out, but probably not. Yeah, well, you know,
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let's move on because well, go ahead, Alex, what do you want
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to talk about? Yeah, we were coming up to the one year anniversary
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of Collision next week, so they've announced it. Yeah. I was at
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I think the second collision or maybe the third, just because they were in
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Toronto last year for Forbidden Door and it was one of the early collisions.
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Collision has been an interesting I don't know if it's an experiment or what you'd
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want to call it. I think they's had its highs and its lows.
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I know we were kind of dumping on last week's episode. I think Kelson,
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you said it was the worst that you'd seen. Well that was two
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weeks ago. This past week was actually pretty good. Yeah. I thought
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this week was a big improvement. I'm talking about the I even came down
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hard on the collision that was Leo Rush Roderick Strong. Yeah. So I
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mean, I will give this to a w I mean, as of yesterday
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we already had six spots already advertised for Dynamite, which is amazing, and
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we actually had four of the spots for Collision are filled in now. We
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haven't had added anything else since then. But I like seeing AW promote their
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shows well at you know, well in advance. Mm hmm. But is
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there anything else? Is there anything in particular? I mean we can well,
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you know what, let's just go over, uh what what stands out
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of what's been already announced? What's what are you looking forward to the most?
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Well, what I'm looking forward to the most is the return of the
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House of Black. We've had two Collisions now without them since Double or Nothing,
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and I've missed them tremendously. I think especially that little episode that you
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really didn't like and that I didn't feel too strongly about, they would have
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definitely helped that show a lot. And I think, yeah, I think
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they really help Collision. They make that a show that's worth seeing just because
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you know, you get the see House of Black all right. Yeah,
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looking forward to them coming back, and I'm hoping that they're doing something interesting,
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like maybe Malachi gets added to the TNT Championship qualifying match or something like
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that. Like I'd like to see them doing something at Forbidden Door or maybe
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even feuding with some Japanese talent or something in a zero hour match, just
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something for them to do. Yeah, well, Sudden, is there anything
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that stands out for you about the Collision card that's already been announced. I'm
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kind of looking forward to the same thing. Uh, I don't know Collision.
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You said, Collision has been up and down. I think the problem
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came in is when they tried to make it see him Punk's show and he
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left, they kind of floundered. They didn't have that. They didn't have
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that like top person again. So instead of saying, Okay, let's make
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this, let's make House of Black Domain or even Christian or you know,
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something like that, they've kind of been stops foundering on that. Yeah,
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they tried to do it with like Adam Copeland. I think they tried to
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kind of have They never said it, but they He was heavily featured and
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he's kind of an old time babe, I guess, but it just it
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didn't seem the same, you know what I mean. He was on both
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I mean, he was on both shows, he did stuff on both shows
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instead of just being on Collision. It just didn't feel the same because well,
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originally it was like, well everyone hates see him punk, but he
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has these guys that like him, so we'll put these people only on Collision.
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It's such a stupid reason for why they did it, but yeah,
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that's why. Yeah, and now they don't have that problem theoretically anymore.
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Maybe like when Andrade was still around, maybe to keep them away from Sammy
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still and I don't know, but there's less drama. But it also does
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kind of hurt Collision because now you don't have a reason to keep guys only
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on Collision, right. Well, from my point of view, the the
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I think the one that I'm looking forward to seeing the most is Deanna Paranzo
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and thunder Rosa and no d Q match. Now, if you remember when
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when thunder Rosa beat Britt Baker in for the for the a W Women's Championship,
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it was a no DQ. Wasn't it a steel cage as well?
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Yeah, it was still ky and thunder Rosa is not shy about using stuff
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like thumbtacks and getting in there and of course sprint. Baker is also not
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shy about getting in there and getting dirty. I'm not really sure about Diana
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Parozzo, but you know, I'm looking at this match is like, this
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could be a really good banger of a match. I'm looking forward to Dynamite
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tomorrow night to see if they do any kind of promo leading into Collision,
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because I'm waiting to see both of these women say we're throwing caution to the
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wind. Basically, the only thing that I could say is like, look,
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I think the thumbtacks are really cool. They're better than the shards of
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glass thing. I prefer to shut thumbtacks. But if they really really want
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to up the ante, they put legos in that bag, because holy hell,
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that's just I can't imagine. I mean, I don't think that there's
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any wrestling company that's stupid enough to use legos. However, I did see
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a New Japan match where they did use legos in a four way match,
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and that match basically they put the legos at the very beginning in a match
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in the center of the ring, and then they tried to maneuver toward each
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other. They all stepped on legos. Next thing you know, everybody is
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outside the ring crying, so that didn't really work out really well. It
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was hysterical, it was very funny. But okay, so now let me
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ask you guys, and I guess we'll start with Alex. So we have
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Christian Cage doing his father to you know, Father's Day special? Is it
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his Father's Day weekend? We have Lee Moriarty and Dante Martin in a qualifier
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match for the T and T Championship Ladder Match. We've already mentioned a House
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of Black, and we've also already mentioned Thunder Rosa and Diana Parrozzo. There's
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only four segments in a two hour show. Is there anything else that you
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kind of would like to see added to this? I think like I'm thinking
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of like historically some of the biggest matches they've had on Collision in the last
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year, and there's like FTR versus Bullet Club Gold the two out of three
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falls, but FTR is injured, so now they can't really have a match.
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I would love man like if they want to really pull out some something
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big for this night, like having an MJF match. It doesn't have to
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be against Rouche, but it could be against like Pressed advance. But you
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know, something like that could be really interesting for this show. Yeah,
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I think yeah, MJL would be my my notmbe JF. What about you,
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Sutton, Yeah, I would love to see some of their turns.
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Other than like, you know, people coming back when they they almost always
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come back on Dynamite or pay per views, I'd like to see some of
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the people who are there, even if it's Britt Baker somebody, you know,
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to surprise people with. I like the fact that the last couple of
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weeks have had surprise matches that nobody was expecting. I think that added a
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little bit to it, made it a little bit more fun. So,
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you know, I really don't. I can't. I don't know. Maybe
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a Jack Perry match, since he hasn't wrestled since he came back yet.
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Oh he's wrestling on Wednesday. He's wrestling tomorrow night. Oh that's right,
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isn't it. Yeah, that's right, he's wrestling tomorrow night. My thing
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is very similar. It's like I listened to both of you and knew what
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you were going to say, and I combined them. Alex said he wanted
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to see some kind of like his historical kind of thing going on and Suton
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wanted to see returns. I got three segments that I would add. Last
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year, when Collision debuted, we had three things that happened that would basically
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be a return for Instane. One of the things that happened last year was
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Miro made his return. Wouldn't it be great to see Miro make a return
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this probably not into the ring, but at least coming out and saying that
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the Redeemer is back and that you know, don't don't count me out yet
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because I'm not going anywhere, you know kind of thing. Now, he
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may be ready to return, I don't know. And they may have been
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waiting for this, because you know how Tony Kahn is, he gets something
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in his mind. Miro could have been ready three weeks ago. No,
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we're gonna say three months ago. No, we're gonna save him for the
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for the one year anniversary of Collision. The second person, now we saw
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him last week, so maybe we can even see him in the ring this
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week on Collision is Scorpio Sky. Yeah, you know, and the third
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person. And on the very first episode of Collision, this wrestler came out
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and he said that he is going to throw his hat in the ring for
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the Owen Hart Cup Foundation Tournament. Ricky Ricky Starks the eventual winner. So
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that's three different things that I can see realistically happening. Yeah, those are
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pretty good ideas. Yeah, in collision, does need something like that,
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like a spark, something interesting that we we don't really get usually on Collision
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it's, as Sutton said, there's not a lot of surprises typically. Yeah.
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I mean, as far as I'm concerned, those are really, like
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I said, I think those are realistic things that they can do. I
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mean, I like, something's suggestion that Britt Baker coming back, but I
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don't really think that's realistic, not on Collisions. You know, I don't
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know. You know, they've been talking about it. They've been talking about
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it so much. How she's been she's she's been talking about wanting to come
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back, and they've got all these other people that are out. I mean,
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she's just one example that I could think of right off the top of
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my head, maybe something. Have you seen the videos of her working out?
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I have not seen work I gotta tell you, Britt Baker has always
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had I want to phrase this correctly because I don't want it to come out
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sound and creepy. Britt Baker's always had a really good wrestling body. She's
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got a great physique. I don't mean about her girlish figure. I'm talking
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about she does have that rustler physik tour. I just saw a video of
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her this week. She is strong. He's jack she is she is jacked.
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She is really jacked. He's been out so long and apparently been healthy
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this whole time, or a fair bit of it that it's kind of weird
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and maybe it is one of these Tony Kahan just waiting for that exact right
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time to the point of absurdity. But yeah, with her, she was
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hurt, but then also she was taking care of her man. That was
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the reason that I'd seen people saying that she wasn't back yet or she wasn't
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coming back. Was this she was taking care of crutches, Like what does
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he need to spood for him with? That's I'm just repeating. With so
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a lot of people say, hey, where's Britt Baker. I wanted to
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go because for whatever reason, she has got everybody that has watched a w
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from the start thinking she's the greatest women's wrestler and she's not. She just
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isn't and I don't like her. She's polarizing. I much prefer on Mike
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that I do will in the ring that didn't really work out too well either
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with her whole little Doctor's Visitor officer whatever the hell it was called. That
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didn't last long but suck. And I will say this the perfect time for
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Britt Baker to come back, and she does come back on TV would be
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the one year anniversary, during or after or whatever. The Diana Frazzo at
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the that's there exactly, and that's one of those things that you know,
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like I said, it would be cool to see that, just because honestly,
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the the the issues I had a couple of weeks ago with the women's
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division, there's they're having more women matches, but they're the same matches over
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and over and over again. They're not doing different matches. They're having either
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you know, getting Serena Deeves in a couple of matches, but it's always
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May and Tony and you know, Willow and there's nobody that They've got so
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many of the women, they're just not using them. And it would be
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nice to see some of those kind of matches too. On Collision if You're
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not gonna put them on Dynamic put them on Collision. Yeah right, And
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yet Deanna Parozzo and Britt Baker are apparently behind the scenes like best Friends and
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thunder Rosa and Britt Baker on TV or Mortal Enemy. So oh yeah,
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that's a really interesting. Yeah, that could be really interesting. Yeah,
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addition to that match. Yeah. Well, well let's move on to the
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Dynamite preview because we already have six six segments I guess already advertised, and
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I'll just started from the bottom up, and I mean the true bottom the
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US guys. Hi, guys, it's uh tevy time with Chris Jericho with
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the special special special guests Private Party. And my opinion on this is what
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is your opinions? Okay, God, it's the public party with Private Party.
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My opinion on this is okay, it's weird that he's now entering this
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feud with a tag team. So so I don't know. My thoughts are
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is this this is either leading to Private Party joining the Learning Tree because you
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know Inner Circle Jericho Appreciation Society it always had like that core five guys,
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and I guess adding an a Jay later to the Jerical Appreciation society, But
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they do kind of need a tag team here if it's the typical Jericho faction
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side. So either Private Party joins them or some other tag teams going to
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come into feud with Private Party. But yeah, that's my thoughts on this.
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Well, sutinly have this. I honestly, I hope they don't do
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that the Private Party. Private Party has been like for the longest time.
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You know, they started out being on their own, and they got hooked
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in with Matt Hardy and they were I think that stifled them more than it
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helped. And they need to be a tag team on their own because they're
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not that bad. They actually could be really really good. But teaming them
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up with another group just don't make any sense to me. I think it
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would be a lot better than teaming them up with Matt Hardy because he was
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doing no one any favors. No one that ever teamed up with Matt Hardy
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was better off. But yeah, I see what you're saying, Like,
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we haven't really got a good run of Private Party just as a tag team
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wrestling consistently week in and week out, because it seems like Mark Quinn always
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just gets injured. Yeah, well, we have broken a record on the
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on the podcast because we just talked about Private Party for four minutes, which
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is three minutes and fifty seconds longer than we've ever spoken about Private Party on
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this I didn't mention Jericho except in the beginning. Well there's no reason.
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Yeah, I mean, I honestly think it's gonna end up. I'm thinking
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that Tomorrow night is gonna end up him putting a tag team match between Private
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Party and Bill and the other guy, the Bad Apple Bryan Keith. Think
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it'll be really forgot about Brian Keith. I think, yeah, this has
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been good for Brian Keith. Maybe it'll help Private Party. Well, we'll
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see, we'll see. Just could be like a ws AT w O,
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except we call it the Nope w O or whatever, Nope World Order God,
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the weakest faction in the history of wrestling. I honestly don't think Jericho
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is looking to make a faction like before. I think he's just gonna keep
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it where it's at him the Big Bill, and maybe uh, keep the
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Bad Apple around just to continue the Hi guys, irritation of Kilson. I
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think, guys, let's move on. Alex, what do you want to
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talk about next. Yeah, moving up the card, we got Mark brisco
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Kyle Rally, and Orange Cassidy versus Kyle Fletcher, Roderick Strong and Knoski Takeshta.
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I really liked seeing Kyle Fletcher and Trent Barretta at the end of Collision
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the other night beating up Orange Cassidy. They looked good together. I don't
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know why Roderick Strong has to be in this match and we don't get Trent
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Peretta in there instead. Yeah, so that's a little disappointing to me.
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I guess they're kind of keeping Kyle O'Reilly Roderick Strong or feuding again. I
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don't know how Mark Briscoe found his way into this match, but there he
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is. I don't know it'll be an interesting match because there's different storylines at
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play, but it's a little confusing. Yeah, I mean, look,
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the only thing I could figure out is that Trumperetta was had with a rest
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warrant out for him in Iowa. I mean, it just doesn't make any
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sense for Roderick Strong to be in there. Of course, I'm biased,
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because look, this match is not one that I'm looking for to look,
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you know how I feel about Roderick's strong, the absolute most boring human being
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on the planet. He makes Eddie Kingston look like Elvis to me. Oh,
30:22
Elvis couldn't wrestle either. Uh, just so you know, obviously at
30:26
trouble, I mean obviously been at trouble over to the bathroom, right,
30:30
but anyway, that was too soon. But you know, on the same
30:37
side, what I look at it is, I'm kind of getting a little
30:42
sick and tired of seeing Kyle O'Reilly and Orange Cassidy every single week. Now,
30:48
let's give somebody else a chance, you know, I mean, come
30:52
on, mm hmmm. Yes, I love Kyler rally, but yeah,
30:59
it us feel like he's on every single show like Collision Dynamite, Collision Dynamite.
31:07
Yeah, I mean, I love his work rate, and he's a
31:10
good guy, you know, and he's a talented wrestler. But too much
31:14
of a good thing is too much of a good thing. And that's the
31:18
same thing that happened with Orange Cassidy last year when he started his International Championship
31:23
run. I was like, oh boy, it's Orange Cassidy. It's Orange
31:27
Cassidy. It's Orange Cassidy. It's Orange Cassidy. God it's Orange Cassidy again.
31:33
For the love of God, will you keep Orange Cassidy off my TV?
31:37
Every freaking week? And it was the same match every week, you
31:41
know. So look, this is what I'm talking about. We've got this
31:45
loaded roster. Let's let's if you want somebody to be elevated, if you
31:53
want somebody to be important, if you want somebody to be meaningful, you've
32:00
got to put him in meaningful matches. This would have been a meaningful match.
32:05
But it's not. It really isn't. This match makes no sense to
32:09
me whatsoever. Yeah, I'm excited to see Mark Brisco, I like to
32:15
see Kyle Fletcher, I like to see Takeshta. But you know, I
32:20
could do without another match with Roderick Strong and Kyle O'Reilly and Orange Cassidy.
32:25
Yeah, it's just overkill at this point. Yeah. Yeah, if you
32:30
just swapped out Roderick Strong and Trumperetta'd be like, Okay, now we get
32:35
to see the Don new Don kallis family kind of together for the first that
32:38
makes sense. That's interesting. But yeah, now they had to get Roderick
32:44
Strong in there. I think he's Tony Kahan's favorite wrestler. Right now.
32:46
I don't know why, but I have no clue. Maybe so maybe Tony
32:52
Kahan is like Genghis Khan and he just likes torturing people. I don't know.
32:57
Maybe I'm so of myself for coming up with that. At the top
33:00
of my head. I got to write that ship down. Oh lord,
33:09
I think I think, I think that this match should not There's no reason
33:14
for this match if you're not going to include Trent burretta because uh, you
33:19
have you have, I mean Orange Cassidy being in it. I mean other
33:22
than the fact that they beat him up last week, but that was to
33:25
help out their buddy, their new guy, who's not even in the match.
33:30
I think the biggest problem right now is that that the Callous family has
33:32
way too many undecided things that they're trying to get. They're trying to figure
33:38
out what to do. They're almost like forcing it and it don't it just
33:44
it's it doesn't have any cohesion anymore. I mean, he's you know what
33:50
I mean, it's just weirdest. The most interesting thing in the Don Callis
33:54
family is their relationship with will Ospray, and it's like, yeah, waiting
34:00
for that to play out down the road or something. But they're just ignoring
34:06
it. The torture, I'm telling you. Yeah, So I really do
34:14
think Tony Kahan looks at stuff like looks at the calendar. He said,
34:16
you know what, I could do this on Saturday, but I'm gonna wait
34:22
until double or nothing twenty twenty five to do it just for the you know,
34:28
because he just Yeah, everybody expects from day one. From day one,
34:36
we were all expecting or Will Osprey to leave the don Kallis family and
34:40
it's not happened yet. And it's not like they've been he's been part of
34:45
the family at all. If anything, he's been funning them. I don't
34:52
like they're not telling a story where it's like, oh, he doesn't get
34:55
along. Oh, now they're getting along a bit better. It's Yeah,
35:00
I think the problem came into that there's been some injuries they didn't count on
35:06
that. I think I think Tony has a problem with when the injuries come
35:10
up, like, uh, you know, Hobbs got hurt and that one's
35:16
but you know that that kind of threw things out of whack with that,
35:21
and then now you've got FTR hurt. Sometimes I think Tony has a problem
35:24
with being able to call an audible, which you know, being the owner
35:30
of the Jacksonville Jaguars, he should be able to do this. But it
35:35
just seems like sometimes when he has injuries that probably out of nowhere, that
35:38
he doesn't have a way to yeah, go with a different plan. He
35:44
hasn't set up the way he wants to have a set up. I think
35:45
he does this ship too six months to a year ahead of time, and
35:51
then when something happens to stop it, he goes, what am I supposed
35:53
to do now? And it takes him a minute to catch up. Yeah,
35:57
there's that like one time with Chris Statlander where he was kind of the
36:00
inevitable winner of OR One to beat Jade Cargill, but then she got hurt,
36:06
so that j Cargill was just champion for like six more months, the
36:10
longest most worthless title reign in any wrestling company ever. Mm hmm. Well,
36:20
let's move on because you know this next segment I'm actually kind of looking
36:24
forward to. All it says is Rusian action. Well, when you mentioned
36:30
the name Rouche, based on what happened last week, it's probably going to
36:34
involve MJF in some way, shape or form, we saw MGF last week
36:40
and rooshe came out. Is we're gonna are we going to see Roos this
36:44
week and MGF comes out or at least as a package. On another note,
36:50
AW has this thing about Rusian Action, MIRO and Action, MJF and
36:55
Action. They always do, you know, whoever in action, And I
37:00
was thinking about it, and that must make Action Andretty really uncomfortable because he
37:07
has more people in him than any person has a right to anyway. Anyway,
37:12
that's that's it. I'm just looking forward to see that. I just
37:22
thought it was. But honestly, you know when you see somebody in action
37:30
that there's going to be extracurricular activities local more local. Jobber is going to
37:37
get beat up. You know what means well? You know, I mean
37:42
sometimes it's somebody runs the ring, or sometimes we just get a impassioned promo,
37:47
in Rush's case, passion promo that very few of us would understand.
37:55
I mean, they really begin to come up with a you know, post
38:00
captions because when he gets I understand him, what fine, when he's talking
38:05
normally, but when he gets excited, I lose it. I I can't
38:10
understand him. Well, at least m JF is on the same page.
38:15
Yes, well he's obviously we found out last week that MGF has a mastery
38:21
of the of Spanish. I can't repeat what he said, but he said
38:27
it. Yeah, it was something about his mother. Yeah, filled the
38:36
blank. Yeah, I love I like. I think he's had like maybe
38:40
one or two matches like on Collision only since he's been back. We don't
38:45
know what's going on with both gubernobylis faction whatever. However, you can't say
38:52
it. I don't. I just say I because I can't say it.
38:55
Yeah, I need to see it written. I fall over my talk wards
39:00
the mer Citi Sponde and a promo. Yeah, it'll be interesting because I
39:05
I kind of thought maybe we're gonna see, you know, lf I join
39:08
up with Rush and then and Jf's gonna have to get some back up on
39:13
his side, and maybe that would be FTR. But that's definitely not gonna
39:15
be FTR now. But yeah, I expect we'll see MJF involved in some
39:22
way, maybe just on the Titan Tron after the match. If we don't
39:29
see MGF tomorrow, and I do predict that maybe Ruschel throw his hat at
39:34
the rank for the Owen Harcop Foundation. Yeah, I like, have they
39:38
been doing that? They they've had They've really made that feel a lot more
39:44
important than it did last year and for and really like even the first year
39:47
because it wasn't for anything, and now because it's for a title opportunity,
39:53
it's it just feels like a bigger deal. Yeah. I agree, but
39:58
they've got to get the ball rolling because I believe the uh, the finals
40:04
are July tenth, which is basically a month from now, so so you
40:10
know, let's go guys. Yeah, for sure, it'd only be like
40:15
a few weeks if they started after for Bidden Door. So yeah, but
40:20
from now until July tenth, we're gonna probably be loaded with one, two,
40:23
three all on Hart Foundation Cup matches, you know, so a week,
40:32
don't forget. You got the men and the women. So that's gonna
40:37
be interesting. So what's next on the agenda? Next, we got Jack
40:44
Perry versus Dustin Rhodes in a qualifying match for the TNT Ladder match for Bidden
40:51
Door. I'm not I know most of you guys really like and respect Dustin
40:59
Rhodes. I've never really been a huge fan, just because I think I
41:01
favor younger talent and like he doesn't have a lot of upside in my mind,
41:07
but he is a good wrestler and it'll be fun seeing Jack Perry have
41:13
his first singles match since since Wembley. I guess it's almost been a year
41:20
for him. I mean, Jack Perry definitely has a uh I mean,
41:25
Dustin Rhodes is an older, older guy, and he knows it. I
41:30
mean, he would got onto what he'd say, a boy by getting old
41:34
when he was in the ring last time, you know. And so hey,
41:38
look, I'm all forgiving Dustin Roads as flowers. He can still go.
41:42
He can still go, you know, and he's good and he he
41:46
really works hard to put whoever he's in the ring with over and I appreciate
41:51
that. And of course Jack Perry has a real glass ceiling. So you
41:55
know, I think that obviously Jack Perry's gonna win this match. But there
42:06
are some people that I've seen that have said that Dustin Rhodes may surprise people
42:10
and win this match. I just don't see it. Yeah, that would
42:15
be kind of crazy. This whole tournament exists for Jack Perry. It could
42:22
create like an angry Jack Perry who's out to get revenge and and give him
42:29
an angle. But seems like that that would probably play out at Forbidden Door
42:35
if he were to lose. Yeah, what about you, So do you
42:42
have any thoughts on this match? I mean, I like watching Dustin work.
42:45
I mean I've been watching him since he was a rookie, and he
42:51
still does have some innering ability. I I'm looking forward. I'm really looking
42:59
forward to possibility of maybe MGF throwing himself into this match too, into this
43:07
into the tournament to try to get a shot at that title again. Something.
43:13
Yeah, that could be a because in the end, if you really
43:16
really really want to have this come down to something for everybody and make it
43:21
exciting, the final gotta be Jack Perry versus MGF. Two of the pillars
43:29
is uh at in the ring and oh god, no, no, no,
43:37
please god, yeahbody, somebody do I mean that would that would come
43:44
down to be the final? Roderick Strong versus Jack. You might as well
43:47
do the finger poke of death right then, because you know that that's just
43:52
way too but you got to make it something interesting so that that's I mean,
43:57
it's gonna be a match, and you know who's gonna win, just
44:00
because Jack Perry's not gonna get in this match and not win it. So
44:07
it's kind of one of those matches. But it should be a good match.
44:09
We'll be entertaining. I do think it'll be an entertaining match. So
44:15
let's move on to probably what I would consider the most controversial match in this
44:22
based on what I've read on the aw Fano subreddit, and that's TBS Champion
44:29
Mercedes Monet against Zeusis from CMLL. Now, a lot of people are saying,
44:36
why is Zusi or Zeusis getting a TBS Championship match, Well, it's
44:42
for story reasons. Yeah. She is currently one half of the of the
44:49
Mexican Women's Championship Championship team and the other half is Stephanie Packer. She's Stephanie
44:58
Becker's partner. So what I'm hoping is that we see a good match,
45:02
which we should. Marcedes Monet is probably gonna win the match, not probably
45:07
almost one hundred positive she's gonna win the match, but we'll probably see some
45:14
kind of involvement, involvement from Stephanie Vecker, right, because we've got to
45:19
I mean, we've got to get Stephanie in the ring as well. In
45:25
a match I'd say, dynamite, what next week or something to that affects
45:30
so American audiences who are not familiar with her because she is the IWGPUH Strong
45:42
Championship. It is strong, right, Yeah, yeah, I think it's
45:45
strong. And she is the Mexican so she's definitely a decorated wrestler. But
45:50
unfortunately she's not been on American TV all be come a lot, you know,
45:57
especially not in the wrestling capacity. So I'm kind of looking forward to
46:01
this match just so that we could possibly see a great match between Monett and
46:08
Zeuxis, but also the emergence of Stephanie Vacker. The question I have is
46:15
that if both zeuss and Stephanie Vacker are beating down on Mercedes Monet, who
46:24
comes out on Mercedes Bonet's behalf will help her out? Wow? I don't
46:35
know, I think I don't think that I was thinking the same thing something.
46:38
But look, Willow's got her own program going on with Chris Statlander right
46:43
now. I kind of don't think that they want to pull Willow in different
46:47
directions like that. Well, I mean it would be I wouldn't put it
46:52
past them. They do that with everybody. It seemed like something, But
46:55
you gotta figure it's got to be somebody she can team up with, because
46:59
you know if these two start beating her down tomorrow night, that it's going
47:02
to lead to the next time we see them in the ring, it will
47:06
be a tag team match. That's almost always how they lead up to this.
47:10
They have her come out beat on Monett with her partner, and since
47:15
they're already partners, it'll have to be somebody that that Mercedes can team up
47:20
with next week in a tag team match. So what about, like a
47:25
fantasy kind of thing, what if we bring in What if what if we
47:30
have a beatdown between UH with Zeusis and UH and UH, Stephanie Vacker,
47:38
Mercedes Monet and somebody like Camille or or maybe Began Baine come out to make
47:50
the same. Yeah, they're they're both apparently ready to go. And then
47:54
another in another two names that come to mind that wouldn't be a debut,
48:00
but Hakarushida or Rijo. They're both pretty proud Team A w wrestlers, and
48:07
they're big deals and they haven't been seen in a while, so I think
48:10
they could make sense there. Yeah, I don't know that that's a really,
48:16
really interesting proposition because I can even have that match on Saturday if they
48:27
could get because at the ball. Although it doesn't seem like Mercedesprene is really
48:30
at the wrestling on Saturdays, I don't think she's ever been on Collision yet.
48:35
Other than I did notice that they did add her to the to the
48:40
place, the the the when they do the whole intro, they did have
48:45
her in that. Now she's in the intro video, okay, which I
48:50
don't think she was before. So I think I I don't remember seeing her
48:54
before. It just happened. I know, I looked up and I saw
48:59
her this time. I'm thinking, wait a minute, that's new. But
49:02
yeah, I mean anybody that she could get involved in, that would be
49:06
an awesome thing to do. Even possibly make it so that there's a reason
49:13
for Zekes sister or however you say her name, to have a match at
49:16
Forbidden Door. Marie. It could be Mina, sir Cowa sure I was
49:24
already has no no, I meant I meant to come out and help her,
49:29
just to keep people involved in the Forbidden Door matches, give them music.
49:34
You're crossing the storylines up. It doesn't make sense to have somebody that's
49:38
in Mariah May Tony Storm. That doesn't make sense to bring you. You're
49:45
the one who was saying they need to do some something new and to keep
49:49
rehashing the same thing over and over. You know, you know, you
49:52
know, you know, now that I think about it, that might be
49:58
the perfect time if Britt Baker's raised go to bring her out as kind of
50:02
a because they're gonna have something between her and Mercedes eventually. That was the
50:10
talk when they first when I first heard about them bringing in Mercedes, they
50:14
were talking about how they wanted to have her go against Britain. I'm thinking
50:17
to myself, why, But you know, with the whole CEO and DMD,
50:23
they that whole thing is going to be an issue down the road.
50:27
That could be where she could come back and help her out and maybe get
50:30
that return that I want to see just because I want to see somebody come
50:34
back. Yeah, yeah, it makes sense because, yeah, if someone
50:38
teams up with her, they're either like it could be Camille and it could
50:42
be just there with Mercedes kind of as her stooge or heater, or it's
50:49
someone that's gonna feud with her after helping her out. But yeah, that's
50:53
all interesting, and I'm just curious. So people are complaining about this match
50:58
because it's for the championship. They don't understand why Zeuxis is getting a championship
51:05
match. If I'm looking at this is like, okay, I don't look
51:09
at it that way. I look at it. It's like, it makes
51:12
perfect sense why Zas is getting this match, because it's a story. What
51:16
I don't get is why in the hell as Mercedes Monet still being called the
51:20
CEO. What the hell is she the CEO of her business? That's what
51:25
she's see the CEO of See Okay, she's a small company. It's a
51:35
play on it's a play on her character as she had in WWE, she
51:39
was known as the boss. She she's it's about her. Uh, it's
51:47
about her her. You know how you always hear about people with like you
51:52
have your own brand. She's her brand. Everything she does is about I
51:55
think about all these different times. Here, you've got a thing. You
52:00
can look that on the TV. You can follow me wherever I'm going.
52:02
She's building her brand. So she's the CEO of the Mercedes. Who the
52:09
hell else would be? But that's the whole thing I see Kelson, that's
52:17
stupid, but that's how she did it w w E. So they're kind
52:23
of doing it here now in a little bit different way because then she was
52:28
just called the boss and they made a big deal about her being the boss
52:31
and she was the the thing. Now she's here, so now instead of
52:35
being the boss and caught being the w w E, she's now doing CEO
52:40
and that's that's just the you know, the bigger boss that but that's what
52:45
it is. It's wrestling. You can want to be a dick, but
52:53
well, unfortunately, I don't ever want to be just your more to people
53:00
complaining about championship title shot, who cares? And has there ever is made
53:07
a t n T or a TBS title match almost every week? I think
53:14
if you're if you're for the faith and she's willing to defend the title,
53:21
so it's up who the hell cares who it is? It could be generally
53:24
speaking, when you look at the t n T, what did Adam Copelott
53:28
have? What he was TT champion Cope opened, Julia Hart, Jade Carr
53:32
Gill always open challenges. It's g n T and t B S titles are
53:37
open challenge titles, So Look, I'm gonna say it. The people are
53:45
complaining about zekes Is getting a title shot. Shout app Okay, that's agree,
53:54
and it gives him something to complain about. Yeah, I'm gonna have
54:02
to go find some of these posts and have some fun. Yeah, oh
54:08
boy. We have one one match left unless something's been announced while we've been
54:16
doing this podcast. But Ray Phoenix won a championship opportunity to challenge for the
54:23
international title against Will Osprey. This could be a really awesome match because Ray
54:31
Phoenix is maybe the best high flyer or one of the best high flyer wrestlers
54:38
in the world, and Will Osprey is right there alongside. Will Osprey is
54:44
not like solely a high flyer, but he is. He can do all
54:49
those things as well. I think this could be a fantastic match, and
54:52
I'm sure will Osprey will win. But yeah, I'm excited for this.
55:00
I agree. I mean, Ray Phoenix is superb. There's no other way
55:07
to put it. He's superb. It's kind of unfortunate that he's putting in
55:09
a put in a situation where he's gonna take the obvious loss. I just
55:14
don't see, you know, Phoenix in any situation. Winning this match,
55:20
it's like a one loss for Phoenix win for a Ostbury. But this is
55:25
one of those matches you just sit back and you go like, Okay,
55:28
I'm gonna enjoy the match because they should put out a really good banger.
55:31
So yeah, this is definitely gonna be probably the match of the night.
55:37
I'm hoping it's not the first match. I hope it's actually the main event,
55:43
because there ain't nothing else on the show right now that would be main
55:46
offen status. So well, stut, if you look at the card,
55:51
you've got Orange Cassidy's face sitting right there. He's gonna be the not trios
55:55
match is gonna be the first match, I hope. So what I'd like
56:00
to see the first match is Dustin Rhodes and Jack jack Berry. Yeah,
56:08
but if they were smart, they would do Mercedes Monday and Jusas. Yeah,
56:14
that could be good too, because they always want to get like that
56:15
catchy song either John Moxley, Orange Cassidy, but Mercedes Monette could fit the
56:22
bill. Oh you know what that means, it's TV time, that's what
56:27
we're doing. That might be there. He can't we didn't get the tree
56:37
last week. Hopefully this week it'll be in the ring. Yeah, so
56:45
real looking? Make that for him? I hope it's the same one that
56:51
they've folded down and now they've brought back with them two weeks later. Yeah,
56:54
it looks like in a bad shape as uh card Blade. Yeah,
56:58
yeah, he was. He was kind of haunched. Hey. I don't
57:02
know if y'all have seen some of the segments he's done on other shows,
57:06
but when he did the one, I can't remember who it was, but
57:08
he puts somebody said through a TV in WWE. Who are you talking about
57:15
Jericho? Okay, yeah, you're talking about he He's always had a show
57:23
like this and an interview show or something like that. Everywhere he's been,
57:29
he's always had something like that, and it's always ended up coming to a
57:32
point where it has a meaning and something. I think it might have been
57:37
Sean. Was it Seawan Michaels? I think I Sean Michaels. He put
57:39
through the TV. But he puts somebody through a TV. Okay, Well
57:44
back up to Well Osprey and Ray Phoenix. Does anybody have anything to say
57:47
about this that it's going to be a good one, because I really don't
57:52
want to talk about Chris Jericho at all, because I don't give a shit
57:54
about you, Chris Jared. Didn't we talk about him already? We did,
57:58
and we talk about him with w w ee. Okay, how did
58:04
we get back to Jericho? I don't know, but yeah, it is
58:08
unfortunate about this Will Osprey Ray Phoenix match that we that it's so obvious that
58:15
will Osprey is gonna win. I mean, now there there's maybe a small
58:20
part of me that's like, well, you know, they could take the
58:22
title off will Osprey here to free him up for the world title, but
58:29
I mean that's probably not what we're going to see. Or they can just
58:32
have a rematch two weeks from now and have Osprey went it back. I
58:37
don't know, uh huh, or will Osprey could get concussed and Ray Phoenix
58:42
will well yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just saying that's how Ray Phoenix
58:49
has won titles in the past. There you go. Well, then he
58:52
also lost the title more is the second time because he was hurt. Yeah,
58:55
So it happens both ways every healthy whether it's k fab or not.
59:01
Right. All right, guys, well that's our show for tonight. We
59:08
will be back tomorrow night for a review of Dynamite, which I am really
59:13
thinking that we're gonna have a really fun Dynamite tomorrow night. I really do
59:21
so. I hope you'll join us for that and uh, I so,
59:25
I'm just gonna sign off for the Ignition podcast. This is Kelson, Bye
59:32
guys. But sounds so good there. You do it well, so do
59:43
I Yeah, yeah, you do damn it. Future career is Chris Jericho,
59:52
impersonator. Oh my god.