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- 0:00Hello and welcome back to Project 2028. Today we're going to be discussing different independent
- 0:14candidates, their views, and what states they're on the ballot on. We will also be discussing
- 0:20whether or not it is prudent to vote for an independent candidate in such a tight election
- 0:26and what could be done if you're interested in more party options. Now without further ado,
- 0:33let's dive right in. Okay so there are two major independent candidates that are on the ballots.
- 0:50Obviously not all the states have them on their ballot so I'll in a minute kind of give a rundown
- 0:56of that or LaTrona will do that. But there are technically four, like the two major independents,
- 1:06and then there are two others. There's obviously JFK who dropped out. How, or post-pone. No no,
- 1:13JFK didn't drop out. He got assassinated. I think what we were meaning to say was Robert F. Kennedy
- 1:22Jr. had a, he was very passionate about his race for a while but now he really just doesn't have
- 1:30any chance of winning with the current voter lineup although there are still some people who
- 1:35are passionate about their love for him. And so as Brian has kind of informed me, he is still on
- 1:45ballots however he cannot win because of his, because of the ballots he is on. Because of the fact that he's on
- 1:52ballots in states that at least mostly aren't either gonna swing which would include higher
- 1:58volatility states and the chance of him winning is one in many millions. So he is on the ballots
- 2:05in Wisconsin and Michigan but none of the other battleground states which are Pennsylvania,
- 2:10North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada. And then the other less likely because of the polling
- 2:20on him is Chase Oliver who is in the Libertarian Party. He is on every single ballot except for
- 2:27New York, Illinois, and Tennessee. However he's not doing well enough in the polls to be considered
- 2:31a major threat to anything. Well it isn't that he's not doing well enough in the polls, it is
- 2:36actually a fact that he's never been polled before. They don't consider him to be to be somewhat of a
- 2:44genuine contender. So the two like main independent or third party presidential candidates are
- 2:56Jill Stein and Cornell West. So Jill Stein is on more ballots than Cornell West. However Cornell
- 3:06West is receiving more support than her in a lot of polls. So Jill is on battleground ballots in...
- 3:18Oh um I'm talking now. Jill is in battleground ballots in um all of the battleground states
- 3:26except Nevada um she... I don't know. Oh that's lovely um she is she is on the ballot in a majority
- 3:38of states and she provides an option for voters who tend to be more liberal voters who don't
- 3:46support Kamala's position on the crisis in Israel and Palestine. So she's an option for them. She's
- 3:57a member of the Green Party so she also has very strong stances about climate but one of the things
- 4:02about her is when it's this tight of an election and Trump is predicted to win or have more votes
- 4:10people who tend to be more liberal by voting for Jill Stein they end up giving their vote to Trump
- 4:16because it's... Just to add some context Luchon is 100% on the trail here. In Michigan for example
- 4:25over 93,000 voters in the Democratic primaries abstained from voting for Joseph Biden who is now
- 4:32out of the race. However Harris has the same views relatively as Biden so it will kind of carry over
- 4:39and she could definitely divert a lot of votes in a swing state like Michigan that has you know
- 4:44at least the Democrats have a desperate need for those Arab voters that they're kind of losing and
- 4:48hemorrhaging right now through that but also to push back it's not a vote for Trump it's not a vote
- 4:55for anybody. It doesn't help Trump as much as it just doesn't it doesn't help Trump just as much as
- 5:01it doesn't help Harris. Obviously you could be losing somewhat of a Democratic voter through
- 5:07through that thing with with the Arab voters in Michigan in more concentrated places but but
- 5:14obviously civilly it is not. Cornell West is another one of our candidates he's not on the
- 5:22ballot in a lot of the battleground states or many of the states at all like we mentioned earlier but
- 5:27he's very passionate about health care for Black women especially like maternal health care he's
- 5:36passionate about education disabilities LGBTQ issues and racial issues. This also makes him appeal
- 5:48to more of the liberal voters which again is something where votes for him would take away
- 5:56from people who could be voting for Kamala rather than Trump so that's an interesting point. Okay so
- 6:01I guess I'm gonna kind of move us on to our second half of this episode which will take up more time
- 6:09of kind of if it is not necessarily right but if there is a good reason to be voting independent
- 6:20so like LaTrona kind of mentioned it is usually talked about in the sense that a vote for
- 6:26an independent is a vote against the Democratic candidate and the reason for that is most people
- 6:33who are voting independent are usually people who would in primaries and stuff like that vote
- 6:41liberal and the main reason for this is they don't agree with some of the policies that the liberal
- 6:48presidential or the Democratic presidential candidate has put out and we see more
- 6:58conservatives and Republicans agreeing with more and not necessarily letting one policy kind
- 7:07of interfere with their overarching beliefs that align more with the conservative party.
- 7:15A big example of this is things like taxes and the Republican party's pretty consistent opinion on
- 7:24the economy. Those are things that aren't super like wavering and are really big important topics
- 7:31for a lot of people who vote conservatively. So when you hear that kind of voting independent
- 7:38takes a vote away from the Democrat candidate they're mainly saying that because these voters
- 7:46are usually more liberal leaning and they usually vote for a less conservative candidate and for the
- 7:55Democrat candidate that you are losing that vote which in turn sends a 95 percent of the time the
- 8:05independent doesn't have a major chance of winning. You kind of are getting rid of getting rid
- 8:13I'm saying in quotes. You're kind of losing the support from that voter allowing the conservative
- 8:22candidate to have a higher chance of winning and especially with close races we hear kind of the
- 8:27point to pick the lesser of two evils which is basically saying pick the candidate who you agree
- 8:35with more. The main reason for this is when it is a tight race like this all the votes matter for the
- 8:45bigger two-party candidates. So if you are thinking of voting for an independent that is more
- 8:54conservative leaning the Republican Party would rather you vote for Trump because more of their
- 9:01beliefs will line up of those of Trump's than they would with those of Kamala or a different
- 9:06independent and if you are going to vote for either Jill or Cornell or one of the other
- 9:14independent options the Democratic Party would rather you vote for Kamala to give her your support
- 9:25because more of your values and beliefs will line up with those of her. Especially when we like I
- 9:30said have a very close race and all these votes matter the Democrats are really pushing for more
- 9:37independence to show their support for Kamala Harris and they want to use that as a way to kind
- 9:45of increase her numbers. All right kind of wrapping up the podcast last topic it's going to be
- 9:51relatively quick. There's going to be reverse coattails. It's kind of been in the news lately
- 9:58especially in Arizona and a few of the Sunbelt states and it is kind of a theory that suggests
- 10:04that down ballot races so municipal state races could have an effect on the presidential races and
- 10:11they a batch of polling just came out a few days ago and you know just to kind of debunks what
- 10:18some of the more speculative articles have been saying before this down ballot people only go
- 10:26go to vote down ballot and then happen to vote presidential around one every few thousand times.
- 10:32It's very few very far between so that kind of just clears that out of the water obviously
- 10:37state races less municipal races the more or the less municipal it is obviously you're just seeing
- 10:42more reverse coattails and obviously regular coattails would be an executive branch or a
- 10:47federal branch or not just a regular federal race affecting down ballot initiatives. But obviously
- 10:54you kind of see that consistently with races with people just filling out their usual partisan
- 11:01partisanship on the lower half of the ballot that's pretty pretty usual but there was a
- 11:07specific attention at least drawn to Arizona with reverse stuff especially within the gubernatorial
- 11:14race among some of the other things that we've seen recently and I think that this is quite a
- 11:19short episode but I think it will wrap it up pretty much. Is there anything you guys want to say?
- 11:24No I think oh actually yes Luchana is going to now give a very brief explanation of how you fill out
- 11:32your ballot and what you will see when you receive that. Okay um Ryan's gonna bully me a bit for this
- 11:39he's gonna say anyone who can read can figure out how to fill out the ballot and the people who are
- 11:44listening to this podcast surely they can read but it's a little more complex than that so first of
- 11:51all if you're getting a mail-in ballot you will obviously get it in the mail. If you're going to
- 12:00shut up if you're going to a polling place to fill out your ballot you should print out a sample one
- 12:06online so you know all the things that you're planning to bubble in all the candidates you're
- 12:12planning to vote for before you get to the polling place. But for these you obviously have some of
- 12:20the more major um issues on the front where it's president vice president pair um several other
- 12:29municipal leaders but then one of the most important things is it might not seem important
- 12:34but it is um your local judges so it's like a full two-page list of judges and you click yes or no
- 12:43yes I want to um re yes I want to keep them in their position or no I don't and it's important
- 12:50to research these judges because some of them are very corrupt um and it's these are the people that
- 12:57are making the these are people enforcing the laws these are the people trying to keep you safe so
- 13:02it's important to make sure that they're just people that you trust um making good fair decisions.
- 13:08One example of this when my mom showed me her ballot and I was um looking into some of the
- 13:14candidates was there was one judge who if you there's one judge who was um copying very
- 13:23corrupt and unjust and then people were kind of against him but then he changed his name and he
- 13:28moved into our district and now under different names so people don't realize this so it's very
- 13:35interesting you have to make sure you do your research you come prepared to vote um and every
- 13:42candidate that you vote for matters so don't just circle in one and leave the rest blank.
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