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NFL Week 6 MNF Showdown | Bills @ Jets | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear the lift. What's up everyone? Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Tambaline here aka Totagging Tambo back for another edition of
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  Speaker 1: the Monday night Football Showdown Show here on the Ship
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  Speaker 1: at Nation YouTube station. Got title here with me and
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  Speaker 1: Hoop as always, Hoop back in the boot. There his
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  Speaker 1: Detroit Lions coming off an absolute big one yesterday over
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  Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. That was tough for some Cowboys fans.
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  Speaker 1: But Hoop, how you doing, my friend? It's another Monday,
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  Speaker 1: some more football and hopefully you only played a little
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Humphrey because bad outing for your boy yesterday. But
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  Speaker 1: we had to get that joke in there right off
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  Speaker 1: the top of you know, is what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: I noticed you didn't open with little Timmy Patrick right
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  Speaker 2: the Timmy Patrick call was on point, almost had the touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: I said, you have one good, one bad and on
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  Speaker 1: that was.
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  Speaker 2: A good call though. That was a good call. And
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  Speaker 2: what was the first passing play of the game for
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  Speaker 2: the Lion and go right to Timmy for like forty
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  Speaker 2: six and he had been that touchdown was close. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: it was a great day yesterday for the crew and
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  Speaker 2: you know, looking forward to obviously breaking down this game,
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  Speaker 3: Great?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 4: I think the show was pretty on point. But at
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  Speaker 4: main slate man, like if he didn't have Chris Godwin,
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  Speaker 4: Bucky ends up getting there. But how about that Millie
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  Speaker 4: team on stacked Jordan Love such zero percent Sean Tucker
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  Speaker 4: and just saw the future right there. So man, what
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  Speaker 4: a tough game. But yeah, that was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Man, he distributed it good before you go say, because
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  Speaker 1: we reviewed that lineup and it's very interesting. He would
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  Speaker 1: instead of Dell. It was that Tolbert instead of Ferguson.
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  Speaker 1: Like that all made sense. Tucker, at least he carried
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  Speaker 1: on with the situation that it's going to be a blowout.
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  Speaker 1: But why he gets flack is he played Jordan Love
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  Speaker 1: instead of Baker with four by buccaneers Like.
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  Speaker 2: I hate, I hate like people give given guys like
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  Speaker 2: people in this industry talking about eighty hours of roster
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  Speaker 4: I love seeing teams. I mean I ever build like that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't recommend others really to build like one. But
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  Speaker 1: leading right up to that. But Title, let's get into it. Man,
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  Speaker 1: we're almost ten minutes in. Want to get right to it.
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  Speaker 1: Bills at the Jets, first game for the Jets, coming
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  Speaker 1: off the Sala firing and interested, just to get your take.
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  Speaker 1: But I think this slate is a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: I said, we'll be honest when it's not, we'll be
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  Speaker 1: honest when it will. I love this slate. I'm super
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  Speaker 1: excited about this one, so should be good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, I mean, yeah, Sala Gone
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  Speaker 4: is definitely big but I'm most excited about Hackett finally
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  Speaker 4: getting the string pull from calling the place because that
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  Speaker 4: was absolutely brutal and it starts it off pretty important
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  Speaker 4: because the new play calling duties. They already came out
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  Speaker 4: and said they want to run the football. And it
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  Speaker 4: makes sense because I love Aaron Rodgers. You guys see
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  Speaker 4: right there, Yeah, there's the man right there, cheeks right now,
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  Speaker 4: absolutely cheeks this year.
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  Speaker 3: And hey, like I ain't playing a quarterback captain.
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  Speaker 4: I know Tamba called the complete game where he got
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  Speaker 4: it last time. Tamba could say all you he's been
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  Speaker 4: on fire. I am axing out Rodgers captain. It's been
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  Speaker 4: tough scenes for my boy, that's for sure. But on
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  Speaker 4: the other side, they want to pound the football. Breese
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  Speaker 4: Hall it's been really disappointing for him as well. Obviously
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  Speaker 4: everyone knows the talent though then Braylen Allen too, so
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  Speaker 4: they do have two running backs back there. And I
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  Speaker 4: was surprised, man like one and a half point favorites
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  Speaker 4: for the Bills. Only I get it's on the road
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  Speaker 4: in that life. It is a low scoring game, good
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  Speaker 4: beat by the Jets, but Rogers has looked bad.
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  Speaker 3: The Jets have looked bad one, and that points against
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  Speaker 3: the Bills.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I was a little surprised. I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was maybe gonna be in the two and a half.
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  Speaker 4: Stuff makes me like the Jets a little bit. I
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  Speaker 4: like Jets pass catchers. I like skill position players in general.
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  Speaker 4: So I guess that's my quick overview before we go
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  Speaker 4: captains in really deep dive.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hurting right now. I'll bring my take soon.
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  Speaker 2: But hoop are going back.
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  Speaker 3: I know you are. You're going back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, reasons, I got my reasons. I'll bring him to
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  Speaker 1: you here. Here you go, Hoopster, you bring us in.
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  Speaker 1: Man Bill's Jets. What do we got your first thoughts?
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  Speaker 2: Dahn the title? I ain't going back. I'm with you, man,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not. You're not convincing me. You have done a
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  Speaker 2: hell of a job, I will say, with these Captain
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  Speaker 2: Corter and you're Will Levis. It's little Timmy Patrick right.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, let's agree. Will Levis is bad. Little Jordan Humphrey's bad.
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  Speaker 3: We don't say them.
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  Speaker 2: You are not saying you know, I'm shaking on it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in I'm not. You don't bring up Levis. I
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  Speaker 2: don't bring up little Jordan. We're good to go. I'm good,
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  Speaker 2: but definitely good with that. Yeah, I agree, Like to me, like,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of surprising that Buffalo is only slightly like
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  Speaker 2: favored here. I think a lot of people are just
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  Speaker 2: assuming now that Sala is gone, that the Jets are
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  Speaker 2: gonna be better than they were, because I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: were pretty pretty terrible. So I mean, if you don't
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  Speaker 2: think that, you know, we don't talk a ton of
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  Speaker 2: sports betting if you don't think that's gonna be a
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  Speaker 2: substantial change, Like, I don't mind betting on Buffalo here.
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  Speaker 2: They've looked like the better team all season long. The
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  Speaker 2: Jets have definitely struggled, so I was a little bit
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  Speaker 2: surprised the total is well in this one forty it
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  Speaker 2: was like forty one, forty one and a half. In
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  Speaker 2: terms of captain options, I think this is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a slate for me where I really narrow it
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  Speaker 2: down and maybe only play you know, two three captains.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see as we go through the show. I do
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  Speaker 2: believe the fact that the Jets are gonna get back
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  Speaker 2: to running the ball. I think it's probably more Breee Hall.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what we saw leading up to this game was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Allen kind of cutting into the Breee Hall workload.
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  Speaker 2: I think it could go back to Breese a little
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  Speaker 2: bit here, So I think he's definitely got to take
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  Speaker 2: a look at You know, Josh Allen always in play
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  Speaker 2: at the captain position. He can absolutely nuke the slate.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm struggling to come up with guys that I
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  Speaker 2: want to put up talk today. And you know, Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Rodgers as of now, like you've been very persuadable, as
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  Speaker 2: of now, Aaron Rodgers is not one of the options.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see how this conversation goes as we break
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  Speaker 2: it down.
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  Speaker 1: The chief marketing officer over here, Man, I'm the salesman.
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  Speaker 1: why I'm going to bring this up. I'm starting off
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  Speaker 1: my quick overview. It looks to me that people are
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  Speaker 1: starting to feel more like Hoop does on this slate
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  Speaker 1: and say, like Josh Allen, hard to get past that
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  Speaker 1: Breece Hall looks like a phenomenal spot to get right
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  Speaker 1: and bounce back here. And this is the game we
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  Speaker 1: will be able to see the rating on the Bills
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  Speaker 1: rush defense. Not good spoiler alert, but what I will say,
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  Speaker 1: you split the difference on those two opposite quarterback and
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  Speaker 1: the guy that would leverage his running back in the
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  Speaker 1: slot that a lot of people are going to Here's
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  Speaker 1: what you need to remember about Aaron Rodgers. He can
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  Speaker 1: jump on the McAfee show and say he had no
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  Speaker 1: idea about this firing and no care in the world.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way the starting quarterback. He doesn't have all
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  Speaker 1: the power that he said he might have. But I
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  Speaker 1: guarantee it has to have some sort of insight on it.
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  Speaker 1: You know from your Green Bay days, the biggest dude
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  Speaker 1: that he will give the ball to nobody when it
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  Speaker 1: gets to the goal line. He will throw six touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: he will run it in himself. He will do whatever
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  Speaker 1: it takes to make sure he shows up tonight and
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  Speaker 1: shows off. And so I'm not all in on Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a good night to spread it around
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  Speaker 1: at the captain because we're seeing condensed Alan Hall, Garrett Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you know little less than that. Maybe it does
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  Speaker 1: go to Aaron Rodgers after that. But at least my
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  Speaker 1: point is he's not gonna be the number one overall tonight,
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  Speaker 1: so I can get leverage on him. He still has
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  Speaker 1: Paul Allen, Wilson, Lizard, Mike Williams, who I'll spend more
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  Speaker 1: time on later, Conklin, lots of dudes that he can
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: work it around to. And I wouldn't be surprised if
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: he if he vultures Reese Hall at the line tonight.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: And maybe we don't see the full belt, but we
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: see the guy that's in charge for the New York
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Jets right now. And that's my thoughts up top. Go
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: to you hair, title your thoughts on that, and then
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: take us into other captains and how you're handling it.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: Man, you're getting me excited.
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: That's like back in the day Monday Night Fautfall when
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: he was in Green Bay, a big game against the
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: Bay Rogers, the good old days growing up and watching Rogers.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: I wasn't able to watch all the farm and stuff.
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: So all of that is true. That dude is the
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: biggest diva out there. Everything you said, of course, he
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: played a role in it. Like you could see the
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: arguments going on. He wants the control like people hate him,
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: people all that we're not getting in them and that stuff.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: But there's a diva, there's no doubt about that.
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: He also wants to win as bad as anybody as well,
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: and so throw the football. He is only nine k
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: I guess to bring it all back like tied in
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: at the FS and like pricing, he still is really cheap.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: And I guess relative to Josh, like Josh Allen's two
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: k more you got to do something there, twelve hundred
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: more for Cook, one k more for Garrett the Breeze
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: Hall price definitely and ownership is going to follow. Nine
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: to four is way too cheap, but like you said,
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: it does leverage everything off is both.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: It leverages both because people are going Allen for sure,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: they just have to be the favorite he can crush.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: We know that he's still relatively fair price honestly for
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: a quarterback like him and does what he does like
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: you've seen Jalen, Hurts and Lamar come out at seventeen
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: to five and prices like that, he's actually one thousand
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: bucks less than them in the Captain for what prices
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: we've seen on them. And then obviously on the other
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: side where it's just six on ORed bucks more and
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: you go to Breeze Hall expecting them to be in
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: the spot here. Control that game on the ground at home.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Just stick to the running game. I think everyone likes
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: the running game. So just a quick thought. It's not
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: like he's going to be two percent in Captain or something.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be ten to twelve. But even if
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: he creeps up a little bit, I'm fine with. I
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: think the price is right thirteen to five.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say maybe I do keep something because
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: other than that, I'm with Hoop where I'm not going
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: to be getting to. I don't think the Keon Coleman's
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: of the world, the Mike Williams as much.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Of the world.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: I like Josh Allen. I like both running backs, James Cook,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Breese Hall. But obviously if you're playing Josh Allen and
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Breeze Hall and you're getting somewhat close to the field,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: that's like forty percent right there.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: So I think that limits me mixing.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: I never played the defense and I never played the kickers,
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: but I think that's going to limit me playing the
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Coleman's of the world, the Mike Williams of the world.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: I will say Lizard, I'm playing Kinkaid because I think
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: he gets overlooked in the tight end spot. And still
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: he was wide receiver one option one all preseason. It's
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: still a shorter sample size. Like we saw Pitts kind
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: of get right a little bit yesterday. I'm not writing
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: completely off him yet. And then Lizard is his boy
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Tambo and it's the cheapest tight end or cheapest captain.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: I think that I feel confident that can still fall
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: in the box twice or put up a good performance
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: like I don't want to punk captain really on this slate.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: I don't even love mitsier captains as much, but I
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: think Lizard and then Kinkaid are the two I'm getting to.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: But maybe five six captains for me. But who might
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: even be less It sounds.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, Alan showed down Blizard. That's when you play
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: him right. He just keeps showing up in these spots,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: so he could be the guy hoop. I'll kick it
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: back to you. I guess one thing about the Allen
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: stuff I'll start is just to say, even if he
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: is higher owned, I think there's awesome ways to get
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: different with him tonight, and obviously not leaving a guy
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: like him out. I feel like, if he's twenty two
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: percent captain and I have eighteen, I still wouldn't feel
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: bad because I know him. I'm gonna play defense against him.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: He makes a ton of mistakes. You can play a
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: thirty six hundred dollars jets D against him and he
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: and leave Alan in the captain. You can play people
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that will put Alan will put the same dudes like
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: whatever they feel comfortable. If it's Keon Coleman and King
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Kaid and a Kicker, great, that's an awesome start for
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: higher dollars, smaller field. Maybe it shows up in the
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: large field, but that's gonna be a chop city if
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I put him with a Ty Johnson or a Ray
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Davis or a mac Collins. Curtis said, there's just other
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: guys that you can use him with. So there's lots
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: of ways to still get different with Alan. So I
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: tend to agree with Hoop on maybe less captains than
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I usually play. I'm not going as low as Hoop
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: might go with captains. He plays a little bit tighter,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: But I do think there's ways to get different still
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: even with a popular Josh Allen, And it's kind of
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the same for Breze Hall too. I'll kick to you
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: other thoughts.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously, you know John could it could
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: just be like a raw point sort of slate. I mean,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: if this total remains true, like forty one and a half,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: like a low scoring type game where you know, whoever
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: gets twenty two fantasy points could be the guy that
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: you need up top. So you know, Alan Cook, Wilson,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Breese Hall, I think those are the four that could
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: get there and be the ones you need in one
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: of these like just raw points, raw fantasy points sort
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: of game. You know. Outside of that, like man like,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I just got to keep rocking with my boy Dalton
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Kin kid like it's just been all year, just hasn't
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: been there. He's gonna have a big game at some point,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: so potentially interested in him. I don't mind the ellen
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Bizard call. I mean it is Rogers boys, like I
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: guess you know, has the upside Outside of that that
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: other group potentially get there. We've seen it already on
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: one slight obviously a little more expensive this time around.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: But I just struggle with everyone else, like you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Keon Coleman, Mike Williams, like guys like that. So it's
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: gonna be probably three to six for me up top,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: depending on what happens when I go and build teams,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: and like I always say, you know, after this show
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: is when I build my teams and then get the
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: content updated so you'll know exactly where I'm at. I'll
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: have my captain ownership posted. I'll have all my flex
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: guys kind of ranked in order of ownership. But it's
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: gonna be a it's gonna be a tight group from
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: me up top, likely three to six range, depending on
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: you know, ownership and stuff when I get in there
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: and start building.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard this a lot too, and don't necessarily disagree,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: just saying like it's the common theme that keeps coming up.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I do want to say too, I guess I don't
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: have a ton of these captains that I can really
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: vouch for and make a case for, like title you
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: kicked it to, you know, some of the pass catchers
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and stuff like Wilson, Lazard, Kincaid.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I might mixing that cheap though. That's like I was saying,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: mid tier is I wouldn't. I guess I shouldn't even
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: consider it Lazar mid tier, like he's.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeahs out there.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's more like Conklin and some
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and stuff like maybe but he's he's six K. But
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: then you sort of end up on a very similar
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: lineup build. I don't really love the backup running backs
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: for captain. I definitely like them in the flex. I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: definitely don't mind using multiples together. But I also think too,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I know we're gonna get to quarterbacks first, but at
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: running back. Just to say it up top, like James
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Cook fully expected, I think he's good to go. I'm
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: just saying it's he has been questionable all week. So
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: it's kind of that thing where maybe Ty Johnson, who's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: technically a revenge game too, and even Ray Davis maybe
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: they do get into the mix still just because again
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: you know, short, long week, but short week for a
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: guy like James Cook coming off an injury. So it's
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: that kind of set up as well. Anything else you
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: want to add at the captain title, if not take
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: us into the other quarterback stuff.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Well, let's talk shaker quick. What do you guys like
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: he's questionable? It seems like it's pretty if he right.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Do you guys have a strong stance on if you
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: think he's in or not because that changes like a
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Matt Collins like I do think he'd be more viable
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: at the captain spots. Allan's missed him on a big play.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: He's twenty four hundred again, like Tam was saying, don't
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: zero out Matt Collins lineups. But if it's no Shakier,
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: there's other guys that are gonna like he's questionable from
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: everything I've seen, and he.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Looks practice Yeah, no practice Thursday or Friday. I mean,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: doesn't sound very likely that he plays, and in my opinion,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: who the whole knows me he could maybe like all right,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: you know he can get out there without practice, but
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: not practicing all week and then playing.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: They just haven't ruled him out, which is the weird life. Yeah,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: it sounds yeah, but.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: The practice without practicing is so yeah. I mean, assuming
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Shaker's out again, I've kind of been I don't assuming
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: he's out, and I think that's how I'm leaning it's
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: because of the practice schedule usually leads to that being out,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: But it sounds like they want to try and see
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: if he can go anyway. Matt Collins, I think would
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: be an interesting one if Shaquier is missing, because you
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: can leave chumps to salar around the table and he's
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: on the field a lot. And again Josh has missed
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: him on a couple of big plays, so you can play.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Him when you have a chief captain like him too.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I don't mind doing the old Mark f when he
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: won the Millie, you know, and just leaving him up
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: top and not playing Allan. Obviously it gives you the
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: money to play Allan. He makes more sense with Alan,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, but an example of another spot where it's
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: not who you play, it's how you play him. A
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: lot of people wouldn't leave that because not only would
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: he allow you to have the money for Allan, but
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: he would make sense with him just to play him
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: without and get some of the guys on the other
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: side of the jets where maybe you like a more
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: condensed offense excuse me of Rogers Hall Wilson at cent
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you can build out like that. Also in the one
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I forgot the chat just hook me up on it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I appreciate them mentioning it was Mike Williams awesome, awesome
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: spot here for him at eighty four hundred. In reality,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: maybe not awesome spot because Mike Williams were talking about
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: but he's a boom bust guy. I would want to
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: get him all the way right if I'm getting him,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: And because of his price, we talked about mid tier
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: eighty four hundred. He's in a spot there and if
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: it is a screw you type of night from Aaron
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Rodgers and saying I'm gonna start working my pieces and
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: he becomes one that he uses, that's that's the guy
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: that you could put up top there at just eighty
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: four hundred versus fifteen for Wilson and to your point
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Titlelizard almost eleven. It's not like he was free or cheap.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, looking at touchdown props, pretty interesting. We got Wilson
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: plus one forty, Lazard plus two to twenty five, Big
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Mic plus three twenty just interesting. And I don't put
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: too much stock into these again with how inflated there
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: and stuff, but people.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Bet a lot of money on touchdown props.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: People love him, so it's it's worth noting Breece the
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: only one favorite of score today minus one fifteen James
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Cook plus one fifteen. But more of the story, I
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: think you should be played Josh Allen, James Cook, Breese Hall,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen like you said, Tambeau. So easy to play
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: him because there's a million ways. Does he rush it
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: in twice on the ground and doesn't need to carry
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: many with him? Does he spread it around? And Matt
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Collins is cheap. A lot of his other ones are cheap,
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: and you can just overstack it so many different ways
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: defense against them, and that's what's really appealing about him.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: And to be honest, really like playing ten teams or
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: stuff that should you lock in a captain, you don't
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: necessarily need to do that.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Know what you're doing.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: When you lock someone in, if they have an awful game,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: get hurt, you can get zero back. I prefer to diversify,
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: but if there was someone to lock in, it would
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: be Josh for me because there's so many ways you
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: can still get different with him.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, two four builds also, like if you can just
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: go Alan in the Captain, King Kaid in the flex
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: and then jam four jets, lots of different things you
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: can do with them. So I think that's certainly what
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I'll be doing. Whoball kick it. Do you have anything
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: else on captains at all? If not, you could take
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: us into the quarterback position.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I was gonna pull I got a dry run here
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: for us. You want to do that? Now we can
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: kind of talk through it real quick. Let's see. So
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: it's not as smooth as you are on this transition,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: but let's see there we go perfect, all right, So
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: let me zoom in a little bit. And so got
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen coming in thirty percent. Got Aaron Rodgers twenty three.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: That's definitely not going to be the number he comes in.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be much lower than that. Here's one where
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: there's a little bit funkiness. So Curtis Sam was shown
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: up in thirteen percent of captain teams. I don't feel
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: comfortable with that. Got James Cook at ten, Breecee Hall
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: at ten, and then Garrett Wilson a ten. Come to flex.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Curtis Sam has shown up seventy four. So this is
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: clearly a situation. Maybe yeah, man, I better do I better.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: So let's go in and we're just gonna cap this
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: at forty five. And then this was a mistake last time,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: if you guys remember, it was the juju. Juju showed
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: up way way up high these numbers. I capped it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Juju went off. But I think we had a good
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: day overall, so we want to follow the same process.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Let's say you're okay with a little Curtis, just cap
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: this at eight, come back out, let's rebuild and see
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: what we get. But yeah, last time around, like not
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: rebuilding was the move because the slate word juju just
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: goes absolutely nuclear. But it is interesting. So this is
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: something I would do in my process coming through and
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: then start out my lineup building, come to captain. Now,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: let's see. So we're getting twenty five Rogers, twenty or
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: twenty five, Allen twenty three, Rogers fifteen, Cook fourteen, Breeze
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Hall eight, Gary William, Curtis, Jamiel, let's.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Go y Man jam An good as Jamuel.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. So yeah, this is pretty standard where
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: you kind of expect. Besides, I'd say I don't think
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is going to be that high. Any other
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: cheap guys popping up here. Alan, This is in the
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: flex Cook, Rogers, Breese, mac Collins, Start, mac Holland starts
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: to show up a little bit. Who title talks about
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: who I do do like as well, conklin Kean Coleman, Todder.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: So pretty standard stuff here, kind of what you'd expect
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: but Curtis Samuel maybe it is Curtis Samuel Knight boys.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll add one piece there, just real quick because
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: obviously using ship tomizer and going through it all and
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: just little things that you did there. I think it's fine.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I know. The joke that we have is that if
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: anyone didn't watch previous shows the night that Juju was
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: the winning captain, it was the same thing it was offering,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: like seventy seven percent Juju. Hoop said that was one
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: of his process things where he looks and says, maybe
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I don't need this. I won't deny it myself even
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: when I see that. I'm not just gonna stick with
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the Juju joke and run with it. I'm gonna see Samuel.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: But what I'm going to do a step further, just
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: so you guys get some process out of it, is
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Okay, if it loves Samuel for me,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: it may love them for others, including members of the nation,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: other sites that project them that way. All of that.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: If my group is going to be Samuel, mac Collins
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and MBS, for example, maybe Dawson Knox even goes into
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: that group as well. As another cheap option, for Buffalo,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: if I group them instead at most one maybe or
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: at most two. What I'll do is when I cap
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: my Samuel ownership my max on that, I'll make sure
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: that it's forcing some Maybe I'll move my men on
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the other cheaper guys, because other people are gonna have
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a ton of lineups where if Samuel screws them, they
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: don't have the leverage on the other spots. I still
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: have the leverage now on the other spots, So you
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: can find your way around that. Obviously, like I said,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: we've got more stuff coming in the future related to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: process and going into slates and things like that. But
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I just want to note there that's something that I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: would do on the flip side, where hoops just doing
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: a quick dry run and showing it off. There's other
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: angles of attack you can approach from who I'll kick
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: it back. You got anything else? If not, you can
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: talk about just quarterbacks in general.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me just get out of here, get us
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: back on track, and then in terms of the quarter
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: quarterback conversation, I don't really love Rogers up top, but yeah,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: in the flex certainly, I mean to me, I'm kind
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: of playing this as a raw fantasy points sort of slate.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I can see, you know, even Rogers getting thirteen or
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: fourteen Fantasy points being a number that you might just
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: need in the flex. I'll have a bunch of him
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: in the Flex, and then a guy like Josh Allen
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I'm getting just as much as possible in the Flex.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna playhim in the Captain and then in the Flex.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I want as much as humanly possible without having to
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: do some really dumb shit, So as much Josh Allen
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: as possible Captain in Flex, and then Rogers more of
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: a flex play. But I do want a lot of
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Rogers in the Flex, not so much in the Captain,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: but in the Flex. I'm playing this as man like
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: who can get me thirteen to fourteen Fantasy points tonight?
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: And he's clearly one of them.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've sort of had that covered the entire season
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: so far and it continues to hold true. So don't
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: hate that. I will say it's a bit of a
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: It's not different overall. It's just a flip side of
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: what you said before. I go to title for his
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: but just the you know where I'm playing him up
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: top more. I actually like getting a chunk of my
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: portfolio with no Rogers in the flex because it's kind
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: of like he does or he doesn't. And what I'm
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: saying the other thing about the Jets is like Grease Hall,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: the defense is cheap and I like them, Greg the
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Leg like him, Garrett Wilson like him. Those guys don't
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: require Aaron Rodgers to do anything. Could he be a
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: part of it, Yes, And if he is, it could
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: mean them at the captain from Rogers. It could mean
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Rogers at the captain. But I like some non quarterback
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: lineups in general in the flex or just overall, I
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: should say, and I like some non Rogers in the
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: flex because of that. If I'm not using him, he's
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: up top. I think he's up top. So I'm going
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: to build that accordingly title. Anything else you want to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: add to the quarterback conversation, No, that makes sense.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: I want to jam like I said a lot of
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen, even though he is will probably be the
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: most popular captain, I think rightfully so, and just his
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: upside and just how many different ways you can play
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: him and tell yourself a game script where he is
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: optimal because of the rushing upside, touchdown equity through the
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: legs that he offers, and then his pass catcher is
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: not too expensive. So I love him everywhere. Not sure
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: how many no QB teams. I definitely have no Rogers
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Captain or captain or flex teams.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: For sure. He's looked so bad. Why can't three scare
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: will sing?
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: If Shakir played Kinkaid Lizard, all them outscore Rogers. And
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: if you drop down from like Big Mike or Coleman
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Lazard from Rogers, that allows you to save money there too.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: So maybe I'm not going to cross off Rogers captain
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: teams now for you, Tambo.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: But I'm not guaranteed that. I'm not guaranteed to get
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: any either sold.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's just not going to cross him out. That
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: still feels like a sale.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: It was a sale. It was more than you were
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: it was gonna be.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you want, right, you know, you give
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: him a small medium and the cheap medium and high
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: priced option. You just hoping they at least take one
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: of them, even if it is the cheapest one. At
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: least they bought.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: We got title. It's my sales.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: One on one.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Take us to running back then Title, because I think
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: there is more of a conversation. We hit pretty hard
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: on quarterback being with the Captain and Flex conversation both,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: but with Breesaw. We're already hearing about Braylon Allen with
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the James Cook question them all week now people are
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: talking about Ty Johnson Revenge game and Ray Davis interesting
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: too because of price. But I will note that even
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: with everything that was going on there is Ray Davis
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: was a little bit down and Ty Johnson was going
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit up even before this. I wonder if
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: that could be a weird Ty Johnson role. He's very
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: uncomfortably priced, but when you pay up for probability, he's
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: basically priced like the Kickers tonight, and you know at
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: no ownership though versus the Kickers it showdown, we know
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the Kickers are getting ownership.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And like.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Braylan Allen, the backup running back for the Jets who
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: has way bigger role, is two hundred more and almost
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: projected for double the points.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: So the Ty Johnson it's it's kind of it's definitely different.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: But Grendo play that Reo almost shipped with Jordan Mason
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: and stuff.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Now, Grendo was a lot cheaper.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: I still think he was two k but you have
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: a workhorse running back and Jordan Mason obviously he got
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: banged up. That's why Grendo got there. There got there,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: but it only took one run. As he showed Ty Johnson,
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: he's a solid pass catcher. He mixes on on the field,
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: he catches, he has some targets. So I definitely prefer
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: him to Ray Ray Davis, even though he's more expensive.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: But man five to two, like two hundred and ninety
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: people watching right now, maybe what four or five people
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: one point fifty, maybe a couple more because there's like
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: dying contest you can do and stuff too. I would
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: definitely throw them in there. Most played twenty or less.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: I just would have a hard time playing Ty Johnson
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: or Ray Ray Davis and teams like that. I do
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: like Breylan Allen a lot though, because ay, I do
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: think you can play him with Breese if it's a
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: low scoring game like we saw last night and forty
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: one and a half is not a big total, it
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: could be a row point slate.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Both of them can fall in the box.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: But also when you don't play Breeze Balen Allen at
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: five to four, I mean, he's a good running back
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: the touchdown prop solid at plus three twenty. If he
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: does fall in the box, he can easily outscore Lazard, Kincaid,
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Kean Coleman, all them for way more. You can leave
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Chunks' salary good running back. We'll get touches leverage off
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: of very chalky breeze. I think you can play in
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: with him. He is probably my favorite running back at
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: ownership and the running back room.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I will say quick because Philly brought it
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: up and sharp player in his own right, But just
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: to say, like we'll try and talk about this, no
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: one's gonna be able to convince you, not even me
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: selling that these are good plays. It's in the name
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: of the slate that we're on and the one game
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: aspect of it, and where there's still edge that lies within.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Like I still like Mike Williams at fifty six hundred
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: better than both Allen and Ty Johnson won Ty Johnson
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: just such a risky play there. The way that works
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: back to Philly's question is if somehow James Cook was
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: never going to be the guy they were preparing as,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: if he wasn't going to be and they're still going
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: to give Ty Johnson a role I just don't think
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: if Cook's in, they go that route. So it is
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: risk that you're taking on. You'd want to sort of
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: be avoiding that in most cases or playing it for
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: a blowout like how Sean Tucker got run yesterday for
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. It's just sort of the way it played out.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: But the other thing is is like Mike Williams at
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: fifty six hundred and I know we're on running back,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: but before I kick it to Hoop to talk through
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: running back is he's two hundred bucks more than Alan,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: likely coming in less ownership, but we have him very
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: similar in OPTB. He's literally the wide receiver three for
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: this team. And if you think Buffalo's winning, they're gonna
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: have to pass the ball anyway. If you think Aaron
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Rodgers is gonna try and show out, why not play
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: a boombust guy like that that does have a ceiling
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: if he's on. I know he hasn't been on, but
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: it's possible if he is that it would be required
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: and something that you would need. So just a note
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: on that. Wanted to bring that up, Hoop, I'll kick
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: it to you. Running back is pretty tricky today. I
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: think wide receiver is not much better, but at least
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: running back. I'll let you talk through that first.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just I like those wide receiver I think more
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: just a few questions, like thoughts on Braylan Allen with
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Breese captain. I don't love that, honestly, Like, I don't
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: think I'm gonna necessarily make a rule because in one
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: fifty I'm more on not making a bunch of rules
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: I talked about all the time, Like, I just don't
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: like create. It's one game, crazy shit can happen. I
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: don't want to rule myself out of a slate, as
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I always say, so I won't make a rule, but
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I won't get a bunch of it. Shout out to
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: our guy Shalube, great dude, man. Still love meeting him
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: in Detroit. Such a fun time. One of the nicest guys.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Uh so. And then well I answer this one too,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: uh any love for playing opposing defense in the flex
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: versus captain both sides of this, I'm totally fine with.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen will make big time mistakes. Pick six and honestly, like,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: you kind of want that if you have a ton
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: of if you have a lot of Josh Allen, you
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: want to pick six somewhere along the way, because you
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: want them pushing the pace. So like I don't I
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: don't hate that.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: At every game. Yeah right, yeah, I mean he got
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: that his mistakes.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's very really good point. Yeah, great example
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: from yesterday. So definitely good, especially this Aaron Rodgers. And
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: you want quarterbacks that will make mistakes and will take risks,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: and both these guys certainly will, so fine with it
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: on both sides in terms of the running backs. Brice Hall.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: James assuming James Cook is in, which I think we're
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: kind of just operating under that assumption. He practiced a
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: little bit, it looked like Thursday and Friday. I assume
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: he's in. Fine with him. I don't know though, if
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play him in the captain at this point.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: It's a big boy price thing. I know. Pricing is
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: not huge on Showdown, Like it doesn't really matter what
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: someone's price is more times than not. But at ten two,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: like man, he's got to outscore Breee, he's got to
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: outscore Josh Allen. I don't know, So I'm not sure
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I'm James Cooking the captain, but definitely fine with him
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: in the flex. Brice Hall flex and Captain. The Braylan
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Allen thing, I think is definitely the trickiest part maybe
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: of this slate. He's priced at a weird, weird point
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: at five four for operating under the assumption that's gonna
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: be more Breece Hall tonight, which I kind of am.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're gonna get back to you know,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, They're gonna get back to Garrett Wilson, They're
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: gonna get back to Breece Hall. I just don't know
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: how much I love Braylan Allen tonight. And you know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: if I build my teams and I'm not getting a
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: bunch of Brailen Allen, I might just be fine with
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: that tonight. Again. I'll build after the show. I'll be
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: updated over at ship at nation dot com. But I
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: think I might be fine if I don't have much
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Brailan Allen. He's getting, he's gonna get some ownership. I
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: think I'd be fine if I was like under or
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: just off of him, and then I don't like Ty
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Johnson or Ray Davis like at all, like they're getting
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: They're not getting a ton of ownership, but they're getting
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: some Ty Johnson at five to two like, he's got
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: to beat a lot of guys. Man, he's got to
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: beat the kickers. He's got to beat a bunch of
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: cheap wide receivers. They're gonna have opportunity tonight, assuming Shakira
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: is out, And I just don't know if he can
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: beat him at five fifty two hundred, like it just
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't like that. And then Ray
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Davis at three k, assuming James Cook is in, like,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: he probably gets into my playerpool because he's three K,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: but I'll definitely be capping it. I do not want
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: a ton of him to me. Like the running backs,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: it's it's the main dudes. I think the Jets get
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: back to a lot of Breee Hall, and I think
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: that assuming James Cook is in, like he's clearly the
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: guy there. And then you know these other running they're
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: competing with Josh Allen as well, who will run the football.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of my thoughts there running.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Back, Yeah, you guys covered enough. I'm gonna take it
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver in a second. But I will just add,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: because it was just an example, imagine we had Detroit
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Dallas the result of yesterday's game on today's slate, it
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: would be all four to two's, three threes, all these
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: setups of these roster constructions and ended up being what
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: forty seven to nine. I'm sorry to the Cowboys fans
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: out there, and obviously Hoops the Lions fan is not
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: for that reason. It's just to note comparing games, like
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: we kind of talked about, you got to know, if
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: you think it's the game like last night, like Tyler
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: great first name, love to see it, Stanton, you know,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: a little Yankees action over here, but just to note,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: that's one game too, so it's like, doesn't mean that's
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: going to be repeated or repeatable, because maybe that's what
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: they strap up for this time and say we're not
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: gonna let that happening, or at least try not to
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: let it happen. So I certainly think, you know, taking
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: each slate and just comparing it to how another game
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: went down is small sample, but it can give you
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: ideas and stuff on how to build. So if that's
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: your angle, don't hate it. I'm just saying, remember that's
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: just one game. So if we saw the Detroit Dallas
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: game on this light, you could build accordingly like that
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: would be you know, you get Allen in there, you
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: get your running back, a couple of wide receivers, a
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: tight end or a kick or like if five to
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: one type builds. You're just not seeing them very often,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: especially when some people feel certain about the Jets side,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: which I'll take it to wide receiver, and it's no
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: doubt that Garrett Wilson should be at least I expect
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: the highest owned wide receiver on the slate ten k
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: in the flex. Pop them in there, the highest owned
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: wide receiver at captain, just at a comfortability. Even if
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Shakir was to play, it's coming in off an injury,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: so nobody's gonna think about that. It's not like the
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: other guys are gonna get popped up there. So Garrett
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Wilson will pick up steam and probably get to double
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: digits if not like a nine to twelve range or
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: something at Captain. So makes sense. That's who Aaron Rodgers targets.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: It's fine. I'm just saying that's what we know, so Lazard.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Someone asked earlier Philly again, Yeah, that's where I would
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: use big mic. I like the more up top. Just know,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: if you're playing them in the flex, play them accordingly
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to what the rest your bill looks like and also
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: remember that you are counting on him to beat out
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: the kickers, like Greg the leg is forty four hundred
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: to Tyler Bass five k Like you're really counting on that.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: But I like him because if you go to the stone,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: which I know you're a member, Philly, you could see it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Others aren't seeing it. If you're a member, you do.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: It's a set up there. Go look at the optimal.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Go look at the flex optimal for him versus Braileen Allen.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Then look at the ownership. And I don't even truly
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: believe Mike Williams will have as high of ownership when
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: it all comes down to because people just click kickers
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the projections like other stuff too. So definitely think that.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: And got to give our guys Shaloub you mentioned it,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: who just what a great impression. Just an incredible dude
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: to meet and just really good in person. Want to
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: hang out again sometime. But he said, do you think
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Sola's firing is going to negatively impact the Jets' plate tonight?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: And I went the other way with it. I just
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: think the teams get behind it, and I think Aaron
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Rodgers That's why I talked about him off the top.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I think he wants to show that someone said it
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: best in the chat. It's a real I told you
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: so spot a little bit older now. So whether he
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: does that I told you so, Whether it pays off
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: or not, I don't know, but I'm gonna pay to
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: find out at a my pocketbook hoop. And you want
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: to add on that, if not take us into wide receiver.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah that I told you. Stuff is much more difficult
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: when you when you hit forty. I can, I can definitely,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I can definitely tell you that much. It's still in
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: your head. But you go out there and Aaron Rodgers
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: probably definitely in a better shafe than I am. But man,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I told you, stuff is much harder the older older.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: You get what I what I I guess. I guess
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: that kind of that conversation, you know, the question about
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: whether or not it impacts the Jets. I think they
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: just simplify. And it's good leading into the wide receiver
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: because I just think they simplify their offense a little
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: bit tonight, Like I think you're going to see a
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: lot of short stuff going to Garrett Wilson. I think
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Alan Lazard is going to have a very defined sort
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: of role. I just like to me like the Garrett
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Wilson plays a good play tonight. We know how good
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: he is at the wide receiver position. I think the
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: play calling is going to look a little bit different
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: today than it has in the in the previous games,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: to make sure that they get the ball to a
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: guy like Garrett Wilson early and often maybe some shorter
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: stuff and then they'll they'll take some shots. So definitely
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: like to the Gerett Wilson play in both spots. Alan
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Lazard at seven to two, he's got it. He's got
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: to do a lot at seven to two to be
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: the guy in captain, So I'm fine with him in
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: the flex if you are playing Aaron Rodgers captain teams,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: which I'm most likely not, and I haven't one hundred
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: percent ruled it out at this point, but I'm most
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: likely not. Like I think that's where you play a
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: guy like Lazard at seventy two, the Mike Williams play,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: if you are playing him in captain, like you know
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: tamb said you preferred, I'm probably not going there tonight.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: It's a boom bust type play, and I guess it
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: probably is good for a showdown. I mean he needs
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: a bomb, he needs to catch it in thirty forty
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: fifty yard touchdown. Can he do it? Yeah? Has he
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: done it this year? No, it hasn't worked out all
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: that well. So the juts guys, it's it's those three
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: and you're fine with them Buffalo assuming Shakira is out.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: This is where the value really stands on the slate.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel twenty eight hundred, Matt Collins twenty four Our
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: boy MVS. Two K. You know the story with MVS.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Great if you are playing him, it's one of those
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: situations for me where I probably where I definitely prefer
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: him on the Allen Captain teams. If MVS gets in there,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: you're banking on him catching a bomb. It's probably one
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: bomb and that's it, you know, forty to fifty yarder
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: and then that's all he does for the best of
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: the game. So I'm good with him in Josh Allen
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Captain teams. And then Kean Coleman, I don't know, kind
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: of do him similar to Alan Bizard like at sixty
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: eight hundred, he hasn't shown the ability to have these
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: monster games with the big targets. I kind of like
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: him better. In Allen Captain teams. I'll have a lot
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: of Allen Captain. I'll have some ke On Coleman, but
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I don't like him up top. The only wide receiver
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I see myself playing up top is is, honestly Garrett Wilson,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: just because of the situation, the pricing and that sort
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: of thing.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know title. If you want to
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: add to it, you can chime in. Now I was
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: gonna say, I'll say it. I'll let you go ahead
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: first you talk. Take us with the wide receivers quick here,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: because the chat was talking about a little tidbit on
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Lil maccollins. Tonight might be the guy. But give us
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: your thoughts at the wide receiver spot.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: I definitely like Matt Josh has missed him on some
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: a couple of big plays. But what stands out to
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: me who broke it down well is outside of Garrett Wilson.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: If you're looking at the stone over here at chip
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: in Nation, we have nobody above thirty percent. There's gonna
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: be multiple receivers on both teams under thirty percent that
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: are gonna be on the field. Plenty of snaps with
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: possible possibilities to fall in the box, like, I mean,
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: all right, Kean Coleman twenty one percent do I love him?
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: And the captain not really?
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Twenty percent for the rookie wide receiver one that they
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: had plans with too cheap thirty percent Curtis Samuel, Hey,
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: I'm tailing the jukee after what juju happened our drive run.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Give me all the Curtis Samuel this week. You can
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: leave some money on the table as well, So I'm
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: in at twenty eight hundred.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Matt Collins already talked about him.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Scantling too, Like the scantling's always the showdown. If you're
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: playing multiple teams, twenty teams plus, especially if Shakir's out,
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: he's gonna have more routes. The dude stinks, but he
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: runs fast and he runs fly routes. He just runs
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: hopefully beats the safety if he does one, catching me
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: sixty yards, and you will be mad if you don't
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: have him again. It would take multiple teams for me too,
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: but I'll probably be mixing in some scantling today other
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: side Lazard, Mike Williams, Garrett Wilson, Easy.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the one thing I was gonna say, just going
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: back and look at it is like the cheaper guys.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Even though Samuel, I mean sorry Coleman rats out pretty
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: well for us too, it doesn't look like as many
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: people want to go to him. And I can see
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: it even on my end in Flex for sure, Captain,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: you know he could be an option. We'll wait on
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: the Shaker news obviously, but just to say it someone
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: cause Londo just brought it up here. Bold projection goes off.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: But like Samuel is getting more love for sure, Garrett Wilson,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: obviously Lazard is still getting quite a bit of love
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: on the other side at just a little bit more money.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: So maybe Coleman can sneak in and be a solid,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: a solid play in there. But I still kind of
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: like the cheaper guys that the Samuel the mac hollins
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: go ahead to.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: I was just looking, I mean, it might just be mccollins,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Like I just was just pulling this up, and like
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: he had red zone targets early on when they're at
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: full strength, like I can still remember week one or two,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: like he was out there when they're when Shakir was in,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Kinkab was in at full strength the last two weeks
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: six and six targets like week four to six against Baltimore,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Week five six and now the reception numbers aren't great
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: one and two. But like we said yesterday, I can't
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: remember who we're talking about. This is a game. Maybe
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: it was Little Jordan. Maybe we're talk about Little Ordan.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: This is a game of opportunity. This is a game
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: of opportunity. And you got a guy with six targets
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: in the last two games. I'm interested in that. Definitely.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: You can't be comparing Little Jordan and Matt Collins today.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: And he got one target from Little Jordan.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: You got one target. I didn't get ship. You've got
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: one target from Little Jordan.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: But I will say I played him in one team
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: because of you, and yeah.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Never again.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: People are only playing one to three teams now, but
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: we're playing one to three teams of just are what
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: our buddies like. So that that's the.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Little Jordan Humphrey two teams.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I played a Drake make team, but I put Poke
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: over Pop Douglas and it had Henry. It had it
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: had both Henry double Henry with with uh Derrick Henry
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: and Hunter Henry. I said, I said in the discord,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: it'll be the biggest giveaway ever if I win the
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Millie with this Drake May team that Tom Brady is
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Grey talked me into on the show and I kind
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: of saw him and the house.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: There was multiple people the house way over my head.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: House right there by a little Jordan Humphrey Jersey.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: When I shipped to let's go baby, let's good.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I like that, Tim Patrick, though, was the call. We
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: definitely had Patrick, We.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Had the inside, we had the inside info.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: I told you I heard the interview on the sports
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: talk radio with Jared Goff and he kept Tim Patrick
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: and it clearly goes to him the first passion play
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: of the game.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: So I knew you were a stroke and yourself, I
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: knew who was like, all right, let's just wait for
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: these notifications.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Who was watching? I want to know a lot of
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: the freaking touchdown though, such bullshit that would that would
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: have secured.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: It, hoop with all the lawn care shut down. Now
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: as we get in towards these winter months in Michigan
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: getting a little bit cooler, I'm sure where do we
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: get the talk radio time to fit that in where
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: you're listening to talk radio about Tim Patrick for the
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Linnse this.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I honestly caught it at the perfect time because it
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: was the I can still remember. It was the trip
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: from the gym to my house, which is usually just
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: about five to ten minutes, but there was some construction there.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: They're redoing the road out here, so it was a
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: little bit longer, so it's maybe like a fifteen minute trip.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: And it was perfect timing that Jared goff On and
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I got Tim Patrick. I was like, why the fuck,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: why are we talking about Tim Patrick. It's like two
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: catches on the season kept talking about great locker room guy,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: great fit for the offense, he blocks, he does this
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: like they're about to reward his ass. At some point
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: they're going to reward him, and sure enough they did.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: You know, the best part of it all, which I
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: know you know but you're probably not thinking of it,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: is the Broncos with little Jordan Humphrey dropped Tim Patrick
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: and let him get away.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: There's a connection.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Making it up. But now, yeah, it's all full circle
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: That now the challenging part is we have to intertwine titles.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Obsession with Will Levis. We have to get to the
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: bottom of that. We agree, we've been Hey, this is
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: after this show that the agreement goes into place. We
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: have to we have to get to the bottom of
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: the Will Levis. They we got to the bottom of
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: the little Jordan tim Patrick conversation.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: We need to know what Will Did.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: You see the Coles trying to talk tackle Pollard on
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: third and fifteen when he scored. That was the reason
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: I played Will Lovis his price tag and that defense
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: is terrible.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: But guess what, somehow Will Levis is even worse.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: The Godwin touchdown the first We're like four guys try
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: to tackle them and then wrap.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Up the shoulder. No one wraps up anymore.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: And bring the noise. Good good call out here. I
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: see we put that together too. Who came twenty first
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: in the twenty dollars million maker yesterday and or whatever?
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: It was fifteen to twenty first between both millionmakers. So
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: he's getting he's getting primed up. Anytime Hoop's having a
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: good close calls, it usually comes full circle and he
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: gets his way all the way around. But let's keep
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: it going, Hoop. I'll go back to you tight ends, kickers, defenses.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: You can kind of plug all three of those together
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: just for the sake of it.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna keep, you know, playing the Kincaid stuff.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I will say it's similar like this is the first
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: slate where you look at and like some of these
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: guys have real the pricing has been soft, I'd say
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: for the most part, and showdown like there's some guys
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: that you look at the price tage and like, man,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: this is a real price tag. Kincaid at eight to two,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: it's a real price tag, and that it might prevent
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: me from playing him up in the captain spot again.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I'll be fine playing him in the flex. I'll be
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: fine playing him especially on Josh Allen captain teams. But
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: eight too for king kid like man, he's right there
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers. He's right there, you know, eighteen hundred
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: dollars cheaper than Garrett Wilson, a little bit cheaper than
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Bryce Hall. So probably end up with a little less
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Kincaid than I have all season, like main compared to
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: the field, like Main Slate showed on all that, just
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: because the eight too is it's real, uh Conklin four
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: k fine with him again, Probably a really good plan
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: if you're going to Aaron Rodgers captain stuff, which which
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: you are, and then you know Knox and Rucker like, sure,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: a little bit, not much. Don't want to go overboard.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Uh I've said it a lot, but you know, both
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: these backup tight ends suitable for QB captain teams, putting
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Rogers and Josh Allen both respectively, fine in those sort
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: of builds. So kind of where I'm at, tight end.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, throw your scores in the chat and how this
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: game goes. You got to get that game back. I
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: forgot about this for a minute, but Hoop over there
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: still thinking about it's on his head. Title, he said
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: a little less than a little more then little Jordans
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: little he's got it all open.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: About one point eight points he got from him.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Almost said I hope you only played a little Jordan
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Humphrey because this guy did not do a thing. We
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: had to run that one back. But title, go ahead,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: tight end, kicker defense, anything you want to add there.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: While people start chucking their scores into the channel, tell
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: him up.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: I still I saw him that late night to the buddies, Like, dude.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Two weeks ago, Hoop of all games, he was like,
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: I have no interest in this whole game except and
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: it was little Jordan Humphrey and he went like it
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: would have taken me fifty guesses to guess little Joran
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: Humphrey and he ran it back.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: So yeah, we're good. That was insane two weeks ago.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: And yeah, the reaction was It's worth the reaction, honestly
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: that it was anything, it was worth worth worth the reaction.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: It was and you're being serious was even better.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: But as far as this, for all reasons, Hoop doesn't
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: like Kim Cater as much.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: That's why I like him, because he does feel overpriced.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: No, no, let me, let me let me clarify that
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I like him. I'm gonna have I'm playing him for sure,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: but I won't get as much as I I've been
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: way over on this mofo all season long, right way,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: now's the time get you again. I'm still on him,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and it might be in a big way, but based
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: on what he has to beat tonight, it's gonna be
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: a little more in check than it's back because I've
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: been way over on this dude.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: This is Hoop to Ross knows you get over the
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: ledge of the bleacher like it just movie. Every time
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: you play that guy does feel like it. But go
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: go ahead, title.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's the reason I like him, like it.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: I hope everyone's thinking that it's not a little disappointing.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: The price is high, like he needs to probably outscore
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: at least two of probably three Rogers, Breeze, Wilson, Cook Allen,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: even though he is in a gap below a couple
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: of those guys, but I think he easily can outscore
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: all of them. I'm gonna be playing a bunch of
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen, so I hope it's Allen kicking Kaid if
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Shakers out, especially, just more targets going to going to
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: his route.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: I like him Captain.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: He's gonna be what six percent, five percent hiving the
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: flax has to be in check. He's one of my
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: favorite plays up top today. And then I'm not gonna
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: I guess Dawston Knox is definitely in play. But because
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: I played like forty ish teams, I think my shot
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: will be scantling in that same range.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: They're very similar plays. I don't get scared with.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Thirty seven more than most in the industry. Wait what
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: he said, you play four teams? I said thirty seven more?
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, hey yeah, scam scaling two K Knox one
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: point six K. I think scaling just gets their way
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: more in one catch, whereas if Knox is on the winner,
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: it's definitely probably a goal line touchdown.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: And I assume those odds. What is he plus six fifty? Yeah,
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: I don't like it really, just Conkland kincaid. I'm indifferent
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: with Conkland. I love Kink today though.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to say this, dude. One good good
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: call Hoop had yesterday was his boy Sammy Sammy ball game,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Sam Laporta. Remember these good tight ends bouncing back. Now's
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: the time Mark Andrews big day yesterday, Sam Laporta, let's go.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: That's the that's the problem. You say, dumb ship like
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: a recommendation for little Jordan Humphrey. All your good calls
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: get completely like overshadowed. So like I'm getting that.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I do appreciate that, Like yesterday we were on point.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: But as soon as you talk about a dude like
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: little Jordan Humphrey, it all goes to ship no one
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: remember right?
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now, what's up with this? Because I don't have
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: much more takes on tight ends kickers d but like
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: thirty eight to fourteen Jets, thirty one to thirteen Jets
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: thirty eight sixteen Jets. It's not. We have a ton
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: of people weighing in, like there's a lot of Jets
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: love for blowouts too, so maybe people did get sold
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: on the on the Aaron Rodgers just screw you type
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: of game. But our guys, Shlou, we gotta keep bringing
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: that pretty face back up, he says. Man, Bills are
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: gonna just dominate, gonna expose the Jets oc being the problem.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: I'll probably be playing mostly five to one or four
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: to two heavy Bills.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: For the record, I agree, I think the Bills smoke him,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: but I think it's a higher scoring game. So I'm
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like Bills and over today.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: All right titled do you got any final thoughts on
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: that stuff? And then we'll go to the FanDuel stuff,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: but anything you want to add on just how the
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: game finishes. I think I'm still gonna be somewhat on
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: the Jets side of builds. Probably just looking at my
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: stuff early, it probably looks like more four to twos
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: and three threes Jets side, and then two fours I
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: think are very interesting tonight, even with like the Josh
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Allen to one guy he runs it in, throws it
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: in that Aaron Rodgers to one like you know, runs
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: it in, throws it. There's there's a lot of stuff
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: you can do on this slate. I really do like it.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Any final thoughts from you, I.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: Think I'm gonna have a good amount overweight to five
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: ones bills too because of my love for Josh Allen Kinkaid,
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: but also just how many ways you can use Josh Allen.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: And then the Mack and Samuel Price take makes it
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: easier too.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: But as far as like my thoughts in real life,
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: I lean the under because I really do think the
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Jets are just gonna want to pound the football play
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: action at some points with Rogers, get into the third
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: and manageble move the sticks, keep Josh Allen off the field,
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: and then be honest, man, I just haven't been impressed
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: with this Bill's offense so far this year. And if
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: they're without Youa kir as well, I think we're in
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: for hopefully a little more points in yesterday's game.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: But with that being said, the lower.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: Score in the game usually the more chance for a
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: big solo ship are up top because random stuff one
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: play to one really can absolutely change this slight. We
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: saw the Chase Brown run at the end of the game,
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: just flip a lot of money, and that's what happens
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: in lower scoring games.
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  Speaker 3: So Kickers defense is not really much said.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: Defense has been coming around a little bit lately, like
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: in the Sunday Morning over London game, defenses did well,
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: did pretty well yesterday.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely still going to play the Kickers. And we
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: know what Hoop's gonna do.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: They did pay Dawson Knox a lot, by the way,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I just went and looked that up. That's crazy. Someone
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: was mentioned in the chat and I had to go
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: get a glance. Almost thirty million bucks with like seventeen
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: guaranteed on a three year so twenty twenty six. That's
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: a tough scene. But I guess I kind of like
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: them in the flex anyway, because you know, it's whatever there,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: it's what title said. I'm actually mixing it around at
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: the bottom there. I just don't you have to go
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: too crazy because there's so many other guys and we've
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: just seen every game this this year, a touchdown to
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Knox might not be enough. Again if it plays low scoring,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: like Hoop kind of mentioned some of those builds, that's fine,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: but I do think there's it's more of like a
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Allen in the Aptin Knox is naturally gonna get me
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: different if he's coming in at I don't even know
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: he's coming at right now, five percent ownership or something.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: He's just gonna be a way to get different, no problem.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: So he has someone that make it like five newans
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: making like five MILLI TD. Yeah, probably about that at
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: this point. So Hoop, you got the FanDuel thoughts for everybody.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: I know you're usually good at breaking this stuff down.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I'll try and chime in if I've got anything to add,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: but just looks like very heavy Josh Allen ownership as usual, right, yeah.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And then just one more thing to touch on.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I was looking at some I don't
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: know if title mention, but it's supposed to be a
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: little bit windy tonight. Gus up to thirty miles an
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: hour could impact kicking a little bit. It's not going
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: to change my decision when I do at kicking, But
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: I just didn't want to point that out because I
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: know a lot of people are interested in that sit.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers old man balls go a little bit further
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: and then take that Williams catching it and getting in the.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: End, zupe, get that wind behind his back and good
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: to go. He'll make sure they're going the right way
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: on the field. He's got an arm, he don't need win.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about that yet. He has other problems to
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: worry about, like moving, moving movement for sure. Yeah, I
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: mean it's gonna be heavy. Josh Allen sixty five hundred
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: on fan duel, I will say Aaron Rodgers cheap price
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: tag for a quarterback. I mean thirteen k'd be more
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: prone to play him in the MVP spot than the
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: captain on DK. The next group of guys Garrett Wilson
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: fourteen to five, Cook fourteen, prest Hall thirteen to five.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: I think brees Hall at thirteen to five definitely stands
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: out as a definitely a good price compared to the
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: two sites. And then it's all the same dudes. A
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: lot of those guys are cheap down low. You got
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel at seven K, Mike Williams at eight K
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: probably a better fan duel play as is. I mean
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: he's fine on DK, but eight K for Mike Williams,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Mac Collins fifty one mvs. Sixty five, So there's gonna
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: be a lot of cheap guys, So I think Josh
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Allen MVP ownership definitely gets inflated because of how many
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: like cheap guys. You can just stand him in there
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: in one less spot to deal with kickers and defense
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: is kind of in the same range. Kinkaid eleven k,
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: so kind of similar, a little bit below the it's
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: a top tier guys, probably keeps his ownership in check.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Allen Lazard ten to five, sort of pretty similar. Kean
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Coleman at ten k, I think is like an overpriced
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: like that's probably definitely gonna result in lower ownership for him.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Ten K for him five figure price tag should definitely
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: keep his ownership in check.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. It's crazy though, like a Ray
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Davis is seven thousand vandals, this is making any sense
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: in seventy five hundred. For Ty Johnson, it's you know
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: the way it works. But yeah, would just note got
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: little things like that or what you're looking out for.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: The stone has you covered it? Breaks it all down.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: It's on the right hand side. You're able to see
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: it all. You can see sort of what the MVP
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: ownership looks like. And Aaron Rodgers looks to be at
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: least a half, if not one third the ownership. Josh
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Allen over on FanDuel, I get it, but again it's
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: just how I'm gonna build. I like that tonight, so
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: don't see don't be surprised if you see that rolling
• 1:00:47
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  Speaker 3: I know you guys broke fandal down.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: Well, I do think like the Keon Coleman Allen Wizard,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: maybe even Kinkaid feel a little overpriced just because Rogers
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: is only thirteen k Breese is thirteen to five, so
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: it doesn't feel big enough gap. Then you can save
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: someone like the Mike Williams of the world. So now
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: Josh will get majority of the captain ownership.
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