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Social Media Controls to Parents [pt.2] | ‘Medical News’ with Dr. Jim Keany · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 2: Here. It is a Wednesday morning, July twenty nine. A
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  Speaker 2: lot going on today. Looks like the war in to
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  Speaker 2: run is heating up again. Of course it is, even
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  Speaker 2: though there is technically a ceasefire going on. Who are
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  Speaker 2: we kidding? Doctor Anthony Fauci is in front of the
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  Speaker 2: are so many of them. And he has taken the
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  Speaker 2: Fifth Amendment now seventy something times, and he will be
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  Speaker 2: doing it several dozen more because the questions keep on
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  Speaker 2: being thrown at him and he is just not answering
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  Speaker 2: against him because he's under federal investigation right now. Okay, oh,
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  Speaker 2: and twenty eight million people are under food watches today
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  Speaker 2: back we go to protecting kids on social media. California
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  Speaker 2: has some of the strictest laws actually in the United States.
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  Speaker 1: Has these strictest laws in the United States.
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  Speaker 2: So we are at the forefront of this kind of
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  Speaker 2: social engineering and protecting kids. We think, well, we are
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  Speaker 2: as far as the United States is concerned, but internationally
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  Speaker 2: we lag pretty far behind. Countries like Brazil, of all countries,
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  Speaker 2: are much more protective of their kids because those countries
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  Speaker 2: have passed comprehensive legislation, some overlapping California policies, but going
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  Speaker 2: far further in most cases. Why is that what is
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  Speaker 2: going on with California that it isn't keeping up with
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  Speaker 2: other countries now when it talks about protecting kids.
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  Speaker 1: If you're talking about the Deep South, well, and that's
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  Speaker 1: not fair either to.
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  Speaker 2: Say about the Deep South, Okay, because I usually trying
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  Speaker 2: to make fun about the Deep South, saying there's a
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  Speaker 2: desperate need for dentists there. And if you want to
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  Speaker 2: sell a car, you have to go to the car
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  Speaker 2: lot and the car is on cinderblocks. And if you
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  Speaker 2: want to buy a couch, just go to someone's porch
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  Speaker 2: and you'll see with the couch with the spring, the
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  Speaker 2: springs poking through the cushions. No, that's I make a
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  Speaker 2: lot of fun of. But are they less or more
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  Speaker 2: protective of kids?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 1: I think they're on the same level.
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  Speaker 2: Federally, kids are not as protected in social media as
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  Speaker 2: California is. But why is it that other states, other
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  Speaker 2: countries don't do far better than us? Because I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you what happens in the United States. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: you've got First Amendment challenges like crazy by these social
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  Speaker 2: media companies, issues of privacy. We're far more into privacy
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  Speaker 2: than other places are. And also you've got a tech
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  Speaker 2: industry that sees the strict privacy laws as an existential
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  Speaker 2: threat to these companies' futures.
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  Speaker 1: So we go back to twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: The California Consumer Privacy Act requires companies to obtain parental
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  Speaker 2: permission to collect data on kids under thirteen, but between
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  Speaker 2: thirteen and sixteen, companies have to make sure that the
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  Speaker 2: consent is given before the data can be gathered. So
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  Speaker 2: all of that is parental permission as well as kids consenting,
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  Speaker 2: Except kids can't consent under thirteen, they can from.
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  Speaker 1: Sixteen to eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: The problem, and we've talked about this before, are you eighteen?
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  Speaker 2: And that's the question that's asked, like I drive on
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  Speaker 2: ways and I try to used to be I try
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  Speaker 2: to change it or set up in the middle of driving.
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  Speaker 2: Are you a passenger or are you driving? Click, I'm
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  Speaker 2: a passenger. Boom, you got it? And the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Are you sixteen or are you eighteen? All I have
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  Speaker 2: to say, yep, I certainly am well. Technology today makes
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  Speaker 2: it far easier to determine that a child is under
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  Speaker 2: thirteen or is under sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: And how is that? Well?
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  Speaker 2: AI can literally comb through every single piece of information
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  Speaker 2: on anybody that's out there. For example, what if you
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  Speaker 2: have a kid never goes on social media? Well plays,
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  Speaker 2: let's say plays a little league, okay, and a roster
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  Speaker 2: comes out in the picture and they post it and
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  Speaker 2: hear the names of the kids.
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  Speaker 1: Boom, there's your name.
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  Speaker 2: AI instantly picks it up, knows that this kid belongs
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  Speaker 2: to this team, this team is in Little League in
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  Speaker 2: this age bracket, and now starts and can figure out.
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  Speaker 2: And this is me just throwing it out. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: I am not a tech mavan. I'm just giving some
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  Speaker 2: examples that I just thought of, and maybe they're ridiculous,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm sure maybe you have a better grip on this.
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  Speaker 2: But the bottom line is I believe that if a
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  Speaker 2: kid says I'm under thirteen or I'm between over sixteen,
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  Speaker 2: let's say, I think AI can figure out whether that's
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  Speaker 2: true or not. Neil, you're pretty technical about this. Am
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  Speaker 2: I right on this that at this point you can't
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  Speaker 2: really lie about who you are, where you've been, how
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  Speaker 2: old you are.
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  Speaker 4: I think it depends on a bunch of factors. If
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  Speaker 4: they have social media, a bunch of social media where
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  Speaker 4: there's some obvious tells. But I think I think it's
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  Speaker 4: pretty smart to be able to weed out certain things.
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  Speaker 4: The kid would have to be pretty savvy on what
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  Speaker 4: cues it's going to take. But if they're searching for
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  Speaker 4: kids stuff on Amazon, there's definitely a trail that they
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  Speaker 4: can can you know, fall I'm surprised of what it
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  Speaker 4: learns about me doing things and what it tells me
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  Speaker 4: I might want. It's pretty spot on on things that
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  Speaker 4: it says, Hey, you might be interested in this. I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 4: that's pretty obscure, but I am.
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  Speaker 2: I found out that I found out surprisingly that if
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  Speaker 2: you go through a search using AI, you can easily
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  Speaker 2: find out that I shop at Costco a lot. I
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  Speaker 2: thought that was fairly secret, that that was close to
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  Speaker 2: the vest.
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  Speaker 1: But nope, it's out there. Are we done with that?
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  Speaker 1: I think we are?
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  Speaker 5: Hey Bill, Yes, speaking of Costco, Yes, ma'am. We found
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  Speaker 5: out this morning during wake up call they have a
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  Speaker 5: new product. Have you tried it?
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  Speaker 1: You're talking about the chicken strips in the food court. Nope, No,
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  Speaker 1: they're not in the food court.
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  Speaker 4: I heard, and I've seen him.
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  Speaker 5: You've seen him. It's a truro croissant. They're all covered
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  Speaker 5: in the US sugar stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And where where is this?
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  Speaker 5: It's in Costco. I think it's in the bakery area.
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  Speaker 1: In the bakery.
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  Speaker 5: Him.
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  Speaker 2: Yet I've been at Costco twice this week and I
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  Speaker 2: think I'm going again or twice between Friday and uh yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: I was twice and I'm going to go again today.
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  Speaker 5: Well, if you see him, can you pick him up
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  Speaker 5: for the group?
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  Speaker 2: No? But thanks the ice cream cone? But thanks for asking.
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  Speaker 2: I always appreciate it. Okay, I want to talk about
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  Speaker 2: a legal issue. Obviously, I'm interested in legal issues because
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  Speaker 2: of im interested in legal issues, and this has to
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  Speaker 2: do with a search and seizure uh and an obstruction
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  Speaker 2: charge against the US citizen, and federal prosecutors are charging
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  Speaker 2: him with a felony because he used what is called
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  Speaker 2: a duress passcode, which activated software that erased the contents
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  Speaker 2: of his phone. Samuel Tunick, who lives in Atlanta, came
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  Speaker 2: into Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta International Airport. This was January twenty
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  Speaker 2: fourth of last year. He came back from a vacation
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  Speaker 2: I think in Haiti, the Dominican Republic, And so he
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  Speaker 2: was known as an activist, and one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that he was activating against was his political views and
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  Speaker 2: what he did to try to stop Atlanta's plan to
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  Speaker 2: build a police and fire training center on this one
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  Speaker 2: thousand acre stretch of urban woodland. And opponents like him
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  Speaker 2: argue that this center cop city would militarize officers and
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  Speaker 2: destroy precious green space.
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  Speaker 1: So he was known.
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  Speaker 2: And so he comes into the airport and the authority
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  Speaker 2: sayve us your cell phone, what's your passcode? So he
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  Speaker 2: gives them a pass code, and instead of opening up
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  Speaker 2: the phone, what it does is wipe out all the
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  Speaker 2: data that he has in his phone.
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  Speaker 1: Okay two.
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  Speaker 2: Nick's lawyer argue that the seizure of that phone and
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  Speaker 2: asking for the past Coode was unlawful and he was targeted,
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  Speaker 2: which that's one issue or another.
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  Speaker 1: But the federal statute makes it a felony. And here's
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  Speaker 1: the fun part.
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  Speaker 2: Makes it a felony to destroy evidence or transfer assets
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  Speaker 2: to keep the government from seizing them or tipping someone
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  Speaker 2: off about an upcoming search or wiretap. Five years in
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  Speaker 2: federal prison, of fine or both. Now it applies before, during,
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  Speaker 2: after the search. If the target of the investigation knows
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  Speaker 2: that a search or seizure is eminent, and that person
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  Speaker 2: acts to thwart it, they would fall under the statute.
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  Speaker 2: And so what's going on with this? Well, courts have
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  Speaker 2: treated digital data as property, intellectual property. For example, theft
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  Speaker 2: is a property that's to be stolen. A software swipe
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  Speaker 2: is treated legally no different than flushing down physical evidence.
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  Speaker 2: You're swiping your data and deleting it. It's the same
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  Speaker 2: as flushing down let's say heroin into the toilet. That's
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  Speaker 2: what the law says. Now here's the argument that the
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  Speaker 2: government is using. That the physical phone is just a
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  Speaker 2: container and the data was the property that they had
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  Speaker 2: the authority, the lawful authority to seize and putting in
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  Speaker 2: the duress code was the physical act destroying of property
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  Speaker 2: that the government was trying to seize for evidence.
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  Speaker 1: That's against the law.
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  Speaker 2: You cannot destroy property, you can't hide it, you can't
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  Speaker 2: help someone hide it. And so the key is he
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  Speaker 2: gave the code to the government knowing the entry of
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  Speaker 2: this code would erase the evidence that's illegal.
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  Speaker 1: And this was a border search.
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  Speaker 2: And this is where the government's prosecution comes into play
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  Speaker 2: because customs and border authorities believe they have the right
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  Speaker 2: to searchencies incoming travelers digital devices without a search warrant
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  Speaker 2: or court order, because travelers are not on US soil
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  Speaker 2: until they're authorized to enter. And you have rights outside
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  Speaker 2: of the United States, you don't have federal rights. Within
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  Speaker 2: the United States, you have plenty, but outside the country
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  Speaker 2: you don't. Remember, he was still vacationing. He had not
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  Speaker 2: gone through customs yet, so he was technically not in
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  Speaker 2: the United States, and he as he was unlawfully detained,
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  Speaker 2: never read his rights, repeatedly denied request to speak with
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  Speaker 2: a lawyer. But he wasn't being arrested. He was only
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  Speaker 2: arrested after the fact, after he deleted information. This is
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  Speaker 2: really interesting, By the way, this case has not been heard.
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  Speaker 2: This is a case of first impression, which means the
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  Speaker 2: court has not heard this particular set of facts before.
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  Speaker 1: It is fascinating stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Now here's another one one of the illegal professors that
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  Speaker 2: are looking into this that the New York Times went
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  Speaker 2: to to understand all this. If a traveler decides to
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  Speaker 2: delete everything on the phone before going through an airport
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  Speaker 2: checkpoint because the traveler doesn't want the government looking into
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  Speaker 2: personal files at all, that's an argument that they didn't
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  Speaker 2: act with specific criminal intent to thwart a search. But
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  Speaker 2: once you're stopped and you're being questioned and at that
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  Speaker 2: point you delete, that is a felony. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: which way it's going to go, but I find that
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  Speaker 2: absolutely interesting. Jim Keeney, chief medical officer for Dignity Saint
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  Speaker 2: Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, Jim, good morning is
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  Speaker 2: always thank you, thank you for joining us. Okay, the
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  Speaker 2: measles problem, Boy, has it exploded? And when does this
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  Speaker 2: become a real serious issue for the medical community.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's already a serious issue because it's
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  Speaker 3: so silly. It's preventable. You know, we had it much
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  Speaker 3: more under control when people trusted public health and trusted
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  Speaker 3: what they were being told as far as vaccinations, and
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  Speaker 3: now that even you know, people in powerful positions and
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  Speaker 3: social media and everywhere else have promoted, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: idea that maybe these things are not what they seem. Well,
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  Speaker 3: now people are questioning it and not getting vaccinated, and
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  Speaker 3: we're seeing the results. Now we're seeing a direct result.
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  Speaker 3: Vaccination levels have dropped. The levels are at an all
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  Speaker 3: time high. And so you know, it's it's it's a
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  Speaker 3: basic A plus vehicles. C.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, do you think.
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  Speaker 2: And this is not a medical issue, it's just your opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Having been in the world of medicine, do you think
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  Speaker 2: that this, the vaccine skepticism is something that is going
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  Speaker 2: to be is going to turn around or do you
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  Speaker 2: think it's already baked in in our culture?
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  Speaker 3: Something that naturally appeals to us is that vaccines, by
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  Speaker 3: nature are coming from an authority, and we all, you know,
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  Speaker 3: have learned over time to question authority. If we get
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  Speaker 3: back to that place where people completely trust authority, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know that Genie seems to be kind of out
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  Speaker 3: of the bottle, and so I get it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's it's hard to just trust this needless, faceless authority.
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  Speaker 3: But when you really dig into it and look at
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  Speaker 3: the people doing the work on you know, vaccination safety
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  Speaker 3: and the studies that have been done and all that,
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  Speaker 3: you realize, Okay, this isn't this isn't some evil cabal.
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  Speaker 3: This is a group of people that have dedicated their
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  Speaker 3: lives to science and are really trying to do the
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  Speaker 3: best work they can. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Case in point, Anthony Fauci right now is in front
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  Speaker 2: of a Senate committee investigating whether or not he was
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  Speaker 2: involved in funding that lab and Wuhan that ostensibly was
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  Speaker 2: dealing with COVID and it escaped and all of that.
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  Speaker 2: And he is being acute straight out of not caring
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  Speaker 2: about the American public, not caring about protecting us, only
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  Speaker 2: about him being at the forefront and in the limelight.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't think this would have happened ten
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  Speaker 2: years ago. It's just and he's being ripped into and
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  Speaker 2: he has taken the fifth because you know, he's under
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  Speaker 2: he's under investigation.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's being investigated by the FEDS.
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  Speaker 2: Just quickly pointed out, now, of all those measles, the
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  Speaker 2: measl suffers, particularly the kids who have gotten measles, what
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  Speaker 2: percentage were not vaccinated?
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  Speaker 1: Do you happen to know that number.
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  Speaker 3: At all.
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  Speaker 1: We're losing it.
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  Speaker 3: So can you hear me?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can hear you.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Okay, sorry, but yeah, it's it's overwhelmingly people that
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  Speaker 3: are unvaccinated. If you've been vaccinated, what you get is
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  Speaker 3: what's called an atypical measles. It's a milder form of measles.
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  Speaker 3: You still can have the rash, but those people don't
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  Speaker 3: end up typically hospitalized if they if they do, some
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  Speaker 3: rarely do end up hospitalizing. It's you know, they just
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  Speaker 3: need some fluids and they go home, but they don't
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  Speaker 3: have any of the severe complications of measles. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm wondering parents who have not vaccinated their kids because
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  Speaker 2: they've bought into, they drank the kool aid with this
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  Speaker 2: vaccination business. I wonder how many of them have said, whoops,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I should have vaccinated my kids, and I'll be
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  Speaker 2: to a lot of them still say that the vaccinations
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  Speaker 2: are they are more negative than positive than even having measles.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand those people at all. I want to
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  Speaker 2: take a break and come back because there are vaccinations
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  Speaker 2: coming out that people are using from China that are
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  Speaker 2: labeled not for human use, and people are injecting themselves
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  Speaker 2: with that. Man, it's like silicon in your butt. Jim,
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  Speaker 2: you did that, didn't you? Because you really have a
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  Speaker 2: nice butt. I've noticed that it's very curvy, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that you did you inject silicon in there?
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  Speaker 3: No, no silicon.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, just asking because I'm just very very attractive ass.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to point that out. All right.
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  Speaker 2: We just talked about the the unfortunately prevalence of measles
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  Speaker 2: and the unvaccinated kids that are getting measles.
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  Speaker 1: I think north of a thousand already.
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  Speaker 2: However, there are are people who do vaccinate and they
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  Speaker 2: are crazy crazy. They don't trust modern medicine, but they
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  Speaker 2: trust well crazy stuff. And I was making a joke
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  Speaker 2: about silicon in your butt that you know, you go
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  Speaker 2: in back alleys and you get that. But there's something
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  Speaker 2: going on with peptides from China that are labeled not
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  Speaker 2: for human use research only. Now, what kind of crazy
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  Speaker 2: person is going to inject themselves with not for human
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  Speaker 2: use vaccinations?
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  Speaker 1: What is that about?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? So, I mean you are just one slight correction
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  Speaker 3: is that you are using the word vaccination and vaccination
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  Speaker 3: is you know, an point. The main thing. Right, These
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  Speaker 3: aren't vaccinations. They're not trying to prevent any illness or
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  Speaker 3: disease or anything. These are it's just a medication. And
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  Speaker 3: so what they are is peptides. So first we should
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  Speaker 3: know peptides are a broad category of things. Right. Tides
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  Speaker 3: are linked amino acids, and so that would normally long
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  Speaker 3: links of amino acids make up protein. But when they're
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  Speaker 3: small we call them peptides. So these are usually like
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  Speaker 3: fifteen amino acids linked together. That's a peptide. And we
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  Speaker 3: already use peptides in medicine. You know, Insulin is an
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  Speaker 3: example of a peptide that we've used for decades. So
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these have been around. That one of them,
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  Speaker 3: BPC one five to seven, has been around for decades
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  Speaker 3: as well. Russian athletes used it for many years. It's
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  Speaker 3: banned currently for athletic participation TV five hundreds another one.
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  Speaker 3: And what these are are peptides that are supposedly helpful
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  Speaker 3: in recovery and recuperation. The issue is right now that
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  Speaker 3: they're not legal to be manufactured in the United States,
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  Speaker 3: so people are ordering them off websites in China where
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  Speaker 3: there's you know, there's no oversight of the quality or
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  Speaker 3: anything like that. They actually have the label because they
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  Speaker 3: have to be sold that says not for human consumption,
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  Speaker 3: not for human use, you know, research use only. And
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  Speaker 3: these are things that people have to reconstitute, put the
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: sterile water in, and then inject themselves, and they are
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: doing that quite a bit. I laughed, because, you know,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: one of the classic groups that sometimes didn't want to
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: get vaccinated against COVID or a lot of firefighters, I
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: know for some reason. But yet they're the same group
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: who are injecting these peptides like nobody's business, because they're all,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: you know, working out in the station and want to
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: recover and recuperate faster. And I got to admit, when
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: I go to the gym, you know people my age,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: you know, people in their fifties and sixties, a lot
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: of people are using this stuff. So last week the
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: FDA met and just you know, and the FDA Advisory
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Council met and voted for whether they're going to allow
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: pharmacies to make this even though there's no evidence to
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: show that it helps anyone, and there's no evidence even
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: the show that it doesn't hurt people. And it was
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: a narrow vote. That's the controversy, and the Advisory committee
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: was stacked with some people who are in the industry
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: by RFK, and so they got the vote they wanted,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: which is barely passed. That six new peptides are NOTT
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: would be legal to be produced in a pharmacy, even
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: though there's really no evidence for or against them.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: All right, So, but at the same time, if a
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: producing a pharmacy, whether or not it does any good,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: and if if it doesn't do harm, you know, I
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: can see people, okay, you know, it's a way for
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: pharmacists to make money and manufacturers to make money. Would
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the controls be there? I know you can't control anything
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: coming in from China, but would controls be there if
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: it were a manufacturer here?
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know even the manufacturing here isn't perfect,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: so the controls would be there. It would be better
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: than what you you know, what we're getting from China
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: as far as the level of quality assurance, but not
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: the same as a drug that has gone through the
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: FDA process, And as FDA approved, they would have tringent requirements.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Now they could do that, right if the FDA accepts
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: these recommendations by the Advisory committee. They could say, well,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: we're going to do it, but we're going to require
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: certain things. We're going to require like quality controls of
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: some kind. We're going to require maybe a patient registry,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: so anyone who uses this has to join up with
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: a patient registry so we can follow adverse events and
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: those type of things. But I mean, the interesting thing
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: is we don't really even know the proper dosing. That's
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: basically been Internet lore. That's how people are dosing this
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: stuff right now. Is what does the internet say and
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: what have people been doing? And again, the BPC one
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: five to seven been around for decades. I would think
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: that if it was causing any serious problems, we would
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: probably know about it, given the number of people that
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: are using this. But you know, it's not. It's not
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: the same, And that's the concern. Now that it's approved
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: and it's behind the counter in a pharmacy and you
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: need a prescription to get it, people are going to
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: confuse that and think, well, this is actually a proven
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: treatment that actually is known to work and known to
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: have an acceptable side effect profile. Oh and the dosing
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: is known to be the right dosing. You know, those
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: type of things we really don't know those things, but
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: it's still going to come out of a pharmacy, just
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: like every other drug that we do know those things about.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: All right, Jim, thank you, and we'll talking in next Wednesday.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Jim and I.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: This last few days we had dim sum together and
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: it was very Chinese, you know. For those people that
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: don't know what dim sum are.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I'll catch you on Wednesday. All right, Jim, take care.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Take care, Okay.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I like dim sum. It's all the time. I know.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: There was that restaurant edition. Yeah, there was that great
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: dim Sum restaurant.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: Did you see that he's hanging out with doctor Jim
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: instead of you now, Neil?
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I told you I see Jim everything because
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of his his butt. Yeah, us, it is much better
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: than mine. Yeah, I hate to admit it, but yeah.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Oh. Also, Amy, thank you for texting me about Costco's
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: new cross song.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: Which across Altiro.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, oh god, that sounds good today. I'm probably gonna
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: go to Costco anyway. All right, we're done, guys. We're
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: back again tomorrow, the same time, same station, five o'clock
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: wake up call from five to six. Amy and Will
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and Neil and I jump aboard and we've got kno
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and an and that is the makeup of our award
• 24:37
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• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Still I like it. Okay, guys, tomorrow, this is KFI
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