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Best of Chuck & Buck 3-6 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 3: You got, we've got the long guy or the action
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  Speaker 3: never stopped? Are you writing this down?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 2: Something?
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  Speaker 3: This is chucking buck in the morning.
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  Speaker 6: What's up, folks?
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  Speaker 3: Why you people are beyond Let's go, Let's get the
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  Speaker 3: game off a So, did you tell Victor put in
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  Speaker 3: the what's up folks, Bucky? What's up? Folks? Into that
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  Speaker 3: they do that on his own? Oh? I love that.
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  Speaker 3: I love that he did that on it.
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  Speaker 7: He just recognized Bucky's signature.
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  Speaker 3: The signature what up, folks, What.
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  Speaker 7: Up folks, What up folks, Bucky Jacobson here.
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  Speaker 3: I love that he picked up on that on his own.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, and welcome in. It is a Friday. Oh yes, luscious, beautiful,
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  Speaker 3: delicious Friday. What a treat we have for you four
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  Speaker 3: hours of sports talk radio from now until ten o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: And man, I talked about it earlier in the week
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  Speaker 3: that this is a ramp up week to it all
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  Speaker 3: sorts of cool goodies. And that's exactly where we sit
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  Speaker 3: here on Friday. We're smack dab up against the NHL
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  Speaker 3: trading deadline. More on that in a moment. This is
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  Speaker 3: the last show before Tampafest. We'll have Tamperfest the next
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  Speaker 3: time we crack the mics. The next time we do this,
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  Speaker 3: the next time I welcome people to the show, it
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  Speaker 3: will be smack dab in the middle of Tamperfest. We
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  Speaker 3: will have our Tampa. Yeah wait wait Tampa yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The regular season in college basketball will be over the
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  Speaker 3: next time we crack the mics and we'll be getting
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  Speaker 3: ready for Big ten turn play and the you know,
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  Speaker 3: just six days away from selection Sunday. So the March
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  Speaker 3: madness it's here, it is on. It landed on our
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  Speaker 3: face just when we were sitting here getting our Tampa
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  Speaker 3: on the next thing, you know, March Madness landed on
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  Speaker 3: our face want that same time, But here it is. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: WBC is underway. We've already seen a show Ao Tawny
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  Speaker 3: Grand Slam this morning. For goodness sake, I mean, we
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  Speaker 3: are we are here. Ramp Up Week has arrived. On
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  Speaker 3: this Friday to get you ready for all sorts of
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  Speaker 3: cool things. And so we're going to discuss that on
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  Speaker 3: today's program. But let me start again, because I think
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  Speaker 3: that sometimes to start a show, you know, just to
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  Speaker 3: kind of shake the rust off from an overnight of sleep,
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  Speaker 3: you just have to solve one of the world's problems.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: And so somebody has a can of pringles in the
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  Speaker 3: kitchen area, okay, canafringles, and then they put a note
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  Speaker 3: on it, do you dare? As a note says do
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  Speaker 3: you dare? And so I'm curious, you know, a little
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  Speaker 3: brainstorming here. What do they mean by that? Is that
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  Speaker 3: because it's a different kind of pringles, Like it's Philly
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  Speaker 3: cheese steak pringles that do you dare try one? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: do you you know how adventurous is your palette? This
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  Speaker 3: isn't your everyday pringle. But it's not like it's you know,
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  Speaker 3: monkey and chutney. You know, it's not like, yeah, some
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  Speaker 3: like experimental. I mean, Philly cheese steak pringle might sound
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  Speaker 3: pretty good. I like Philly cheese steaks. I love pringles.
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  Speaker 3: Or is the person being really passive aggressive on this
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  Speaker 3: and saying I have counted these, don't you dare take one?
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  Speaker 3: What is the message? Said? Pringle eater is leaving the
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  Speaker 3: rest of us by putting not only a half can
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  Speaker 3: of pringles in the kitchen, but also a message sort
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  Speaker 3: of warning us that there are consequences for taking one
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  Speaker 3: one way or not one way or the other. Either
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  Speaker 3: you know, either it's gonna be a real challenge to
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  Speaker 3: your normal prinkle intake, or it's gonna be a real
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  Speaker 3: challenge if I find out you took one of my
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  Speaker 3: pringles because the dukes are going out. Yeah, yeah, well
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  Speaker 3: I would.
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  Speaker 6: I think my response to it would be determined based
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  Speaker 6: on my appetite, my hunger level. You're just gonna take
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  Speaker 6: If I wanted some, I'd be like, I think they're wondering, do.
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  Speaker 3: You dare try this this flavor? You think that's what
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  Speaker 3: they're doing.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, if I don't want one, which I don't right now,
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  Speaker 6: I'm thinking they probably somebody like, do you.
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  Speaker 3: Dare touch my pringles? Better keep your grubby hands off
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  Speaker 3: of my pringles?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, if they're doing that, that's not
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  Speaker 8: passive aggressive, that's just aggressive because you put the can
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  Speaker 8: out in the middle of a common area with a
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  Speaker 8: note on it saying like, don't effing touch my stuff.
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  Speaker 7: That's kind of just straight up aggressive. That's not passive aggressive, but.
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  Speaker 3: It's like you're wanting to lure somebody in so that
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  Speaker 3: you can start some sort.
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  Speaker 8: Of I don't think anyone would because of the placement
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  Speaker 8: of them. Is what makes me think it's a challenge
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  Speaker 8: on the flavor, because I think if I it's not
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  Speaker 8: that crazy of Ah used.
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  Speaker 3: To bring in the weirdest things I've.
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  Speaker 7: Ever seen in my entire life has been made.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like, hey, who wants to try some
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  Speaker 3: you know, uh, mule meat, oreos, Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Turkey and fruits.
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  Speaker 8: D I just think you're kind of an idiot if
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  Speaker 8: you put your own food out there that you don't
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  Speaker 8: want anyone to touch.
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  Speaker 7: So it's a challenge, So you're saying the challenge otherwise
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  Speaker 7: really dumb.
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  Speaker 3: If Bucky and I went in there to the kitchen
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  Speaker 3: and had one no no ramification, I don't think we
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  Speaker 3: would actually be told, hey, good for you, yea way
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  Speaker 3: to be brave, good adventurous spirit. I just don't think
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  Speaker 3: Philly cheese steak is all that no intererest of a take.
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  Speaker 3: So I used I hope You're right, because to me,
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  Speaker 3: if you were going to leave food out and then
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  Speaker 3: a note that says don't eat it, I would think
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  Speaker 3: if it's that precious to you, you would just keep
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  Speaker 3: it to your sea.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you wouldn't put it in the area that everyone
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  Speaker 8: in the office goes in and out of, and we're
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  Speaker 8: all food that they want people to try gets put.
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  Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 8: Like that is where you put two day old cakes
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  Speaker 8: that you don't want to eat anymore at home, and
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  Speaker 8: then they leave them there and they sit.
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  Speaker 7: There for a week.
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  Speaker 3: There are some new faces back there that I don't
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  Speaker 3: even know. Yeah, you know, so I don't know all
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  Speaker 3: the personalities back there right now. Maybe they want to
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  Speaker 3: start a fight. Maybe they don't realize how tough we are.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe they'd better watch themselves. You don't challenge me to
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  Speaker 6: not eat your pringles. Now that we've discussed it. First break,
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  Speaker 6: I'm going and having probably have to sleep.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever you left I want you to do, that's not
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  Speaker 3: doing your homework. Number one. The largest person at the
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  Speaker 3: building is you know is here. And secondly, don't tell
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  Speaker 3: Bucky not to do something because he will do it.
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  Speaker 3: So you just didn't do your homework. If you're trying
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  Speaker 3: to save your pringles, I'll tell you that much.
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  Speaker 8: An idiot would have put them out there if they
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  Speaker 8: didn't want people to eat them.
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  Speaker 7: If that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 8: So, either the person is extremely stupid that we work with,
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  Speaker 8: which is very possible.
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  Speaker 3: Again, newcomers, they could be idiots. I have no idea
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  Speaker 3: the chance they are. I mean, if you didn't want
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  Speaker 3: me to eat them, you should have wrote. I licked
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  Speaker 3: all of these.
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  Speaker 7: Actually you probably still try them.
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  Speaker 3: No, maybe someone, It depends who licked it.
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  Speaker 6: I suppose did they really? Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna see
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  Speaker 6: a sogy.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 6: I've still got plenty of flavor, because you know, pringles
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  Speaker 6: do have a bunch more flavor on one side than
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  Speaker 6: the others. They didn't lick the flavorful side. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 6: fine with it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you go.
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  Speaker 6: Just you're just softening the Rwy pound guy with pringles.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to launch a new flavor
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  Speaker 3: called Bender Saliva. Maybe.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, they don't know Philly cheesecake. There's cheese steak, Philly cheesecake.
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  Speaker 7: Now there would be an in.
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  Speaker 3: Philly cheese cake, don't you dare or do you dare?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that would be a real challenge. Will I try
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  Speaker 7: this Philly.
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  Speaker 3: Cheesecake because that does not sound good?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but Philly cheese steakles. I'm actually kind of curious.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I dare. I dare. But anyway, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what you're starting over there.
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  Speaker 8: I want to know whose chips they are and how,
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  Speaker 8: and then I can dumb or if they're smart.
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  Speaker 6: First break, I'm gonna take the pringles. I'm gonna open
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  Speaker 6: them up, I'm gonna start eating them. I'm gonna walk
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  Speaker 6: around see who's here like these yours?
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  Speaker 3: Do I dare? Just yeah, yeah, I dare.
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  Speaker 7: Dare accepted?
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  Speaker 3: Dare accepted? And what? Yeah? Now what now? What? You
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  Speaker 3: want them back? I dare you put it? Take the note?
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  Speaker 3: Put it on your shirt? Do you dare? Do you dare?
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  Speaker 3: Stop me on the outside of.
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  Speaker 8: The studio doors, so when people walk by they can
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  Speaker 8: see for sure we dared.
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  Speaker 7: On the counter in there.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we just leave it empty, but with the remaining
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  Speaker 3: pringles in here on a napkin and just leave it empty.
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  Speaker 5: And soa.
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  Speaker 3: Actually I kind of like this, even if we don't
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  Speaker 3: eat them. I kind of like doing I mean, what
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  Speaker 3: why even have co workers if you're not going to
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  Speaker 3: try to incite them into a fistfight.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly what I'm saying. This place has been.
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  Speaker 3: Too boring for too long. I agree, I agree, you've
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  Speaker 3: had it coming. Jody. All right, well, good morning to you.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome into the radio show. It is a Friday, and
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  Speaker 3: not just any old Friday. We got ourselves trade deadline
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  Speaker 3: today and it's gonna happen at noon. So we are
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  Speaker 3: under six hours from the NHL trading deadline. There were
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  Speaker 3: five moves made yesterday. There are usually a million at
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  Speaker 3: the NHL trade deadline. So if you are a hockey fan,
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  Speaker 3: you know, brace yourself. There's gonna be a lot of
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  Speaker 3: moves made today. If you are specifically just a Kracking fan,
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  Speaker 3: which I would imagine a lot of you are, well,
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  Speaker 3: you're sitting there saying, why is it moving so slowly?
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  Speaker 3: What is happening? Why have we not made a move?
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  Speaker 3: Hasn't the conversation been that the Cracking have to make
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  Speaker 3: a move at the deadline. Haven't we talked about not
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  Speaker 3: only do they need to make a move, but it
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  Speaker 3: needs to be a significant move. And yet and I
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  Speaker 3: don't know I'm not gonna mention any names, but it's
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  Speaker 3: somebody at our staff that follows the cracking more closely
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  Speaker 3: than what we do. And this individual looked at me
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  Speaker 3: and said, I don't think they're gonna do anything. Oh really, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna Now it's not Mike Menton,
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  Speaker 3: it's not Ian Furness, it's not like somebody on the inside.
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  Speaker 3: I'll just tell you it is. And he does some
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  Speaker 3: pre and post game and stuff like that, but he
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  Speaker 3: talks Ian every day. Yeah, so they talk hockey more
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  Speaker 3: than what we do, that's for sure on their show.
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  Speaker 3: And he looked at me and said, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: it's anything's going to happen. And I think that's not
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  Speaker 3: only a major disappointment, I just think that that's bad business.
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  Speaker 3: I think you gotta do something. I think that your
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  Speaker 3: team right now looks like a playoff contender, but they
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  Speaker 3: don't look like a playoff team. And if there's an
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to shore up some deficiencies, and I do believe
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  Speaker 3: they have them, then why aren't you making a move?
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  Speaker 3: You just can't. I realize you're still in the infancy
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  Speaker 3: of the organization's history. You know, in the big picture
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  Speaker 3: of things. But you just can't sit around waiting on
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  Speaker 3: all of your prospects and just meddling through middling through
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  Speaker 3: five hundred season after five hundred season. And if we
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  Speaker 3: make the playoffs, fine, If we don't make the playoffs,
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  Speaker 3: that's fine too. You know, the competition's been ramped up
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  Speaker 3: here in town. There's gonna be a basketball team that
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  Speaker 3: plays professionally here soon as well. And I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if this is the year to miss the playoffs when
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  Speaker 3: you've got a shot at making the playoffs, and they
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  Speaker 3: might make it, they might not make the trades. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of the best trades that are made are the
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  Speaker 3: ones that you don't pull the trigger on. But just
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  Speaker 3: the message to be sent that we didn't do anything
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  Speaker 3: at the trading deadline and then ended up missing the
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  Speaker 3: playoffs by a point or two, I think is I'm
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  Speaker 3: not gonna call it devastating. I don't want to overdo
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  Speaker 3: it here this morning, but I do feel like it's
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  Speaker 3: bad business.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it feels like, yeah, they're in prime position right
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  Speaker 6: especially in the inconsistency. We've all been talking about it.
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  Speaker 6: It's not a secret that we've been talking about where
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  Speaker 6: it feels like they're lacking is on the offensive side
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  Speaker 6: of things, and so if there's a way in which
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  Speaker 6: you can go out and at least you're making the
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  Speaker 6: attempt to address what has been your bugaboo or your
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  Speaker 6: weakness up to this point and trying to make it
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  Speaker 6: more consistent for the final stretch drive to one get
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  Speaker 6: in and then you never know what can happen once
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  Speaker 6: you get in. I mean, obviously you wouldn't want I mean,
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  Speaker 6: you know, guys like Benton and and s would know
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  Speaker 6: more if all of a sudden they made a trade
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  Speaker 6: just because they're like, well, we need to. You know,
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  Speaker 6: the people are clamoring for a trade. We are getting
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  Speaker 6: impatient with the not making the playoffs and and not
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  Speaker 6: having enough goal scorers. So we're going to make a trade.
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  Speaker 6: But in order to do it, you're giving up way more, right.
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  Speaker 6: I mean we've talked earlier about you know, if you
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  Speaker 6: give up somebody like Shane Wright that you still feel
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  Speaker 6: like the ceiling's really high for someone that is similar
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  Speaker 6: production at this point in time, Well, is that.
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  Speaker 3: A dumb trade? Yeah? Yeah, well exactly, we don't.
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  Speaker 6: We don't want to bad, We don't you don't want
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  Speaker 6: a bad trade just for the sake of then hey,
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  Speaker 6: well we're tried. We tried to make a trade obviously,
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  Speaker 6: and yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You got you got an organization full of young players.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be one of your best young players.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean, who knows what the other organizations
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  Speaker 6: art would be coming after, right, And how much you
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  Speaker 6: love said guy versus this guy, and if you're if
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  Speaker 6: you're out there. Obviously they haven't came to terms with
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  Speaker 6: anybody at this point, but we do still have what
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  Speaker 6: five hours and change before we can figure out what
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  Speaker 6: it is they're gonna do. I hope they do something,
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  Speaker 6: just simply because this team is really fun to watch
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  Speaker 6: when they're playing the way that they're capable of.
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  Speaker 3: And then when they're playing the way that they have.
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  Speaker 6: A tendency to play, which is a lot of times
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  Speaker 6: just having a hard time score, and then it becomes
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  Speaker 6: a lot more difficult to watch. And so I hope
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  Speaker 6: they make some moves because I want to see this
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  Speaker 6: in the playoffs again.
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  Speaker 8: Well, and especially we've acquired a lot of draft picks
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  Speaker 8: through other moves we've made, and the whole I mean,
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  Speaker 8: one of the things we talked about with those draft
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  Speaker 8: picks was okay, Now we can use those to make
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  Speaker 8: a move that the Kraken need to make to get
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  Speaker 8: the score that they need to get. Well, I're just
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  Speaker 8: gonna I mean, we have I think what nine draft
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  Speaker 8: picks I think this year, Two in the first round,
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  Speaker 8: three in the fourth round. I mean you can package
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  Speaker 8: those up. You can use those along with the player
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  Speaker 8: to get the person that you want. And I would
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  Speaker 8: like to think. I mean that they're obviously in talks
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  Speaker 8: for all of these people. But I find it hard
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  Speaker 8: to believe that just nothing's working and you can't find
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  Speaker 8: something you like.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there's value in amassing draft capital. I understand. I'm
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  Speaker 3: on five their draftmas for goodness sake. I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: don't have to tell me. What do you think? Who
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  Speaker 3: do you think you're talking to?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, do you think you just get this jolly
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  Speaker 7: not being father draft?
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  Speaker 3: Or do you think you just name yourself father draft Meess,
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  Speaker 3: that'd be weird. Do you think we're living in here?
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  Speaker 3: But so I understand that, but it also has to
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  Speaker 3: you know, you have to assess where you're at, and
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  Speaker 3: there are some other environmental factors here that should be
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  Speaker 3: influencing the Kraken right now. But just I do believe
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  Speaker 3: that it is a step forward if you even if
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  Speaker 3: you get knocked out in the first round, even if
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  Speaker 3: you barely make it into the playoffs by a whisker,
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  Speaker 3: I still think that that could represent growth. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: not saying empty out your farm system. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: hate the phrase like I'm all in. No, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: this organization is not ready to be all in. That
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  Speaker 3: moment in a franchise's history happens rarely, if you ask me,
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  Speaker 3: But no, we're not there. But you you said you've
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  Speaker 3: got draft picks, You got this. You've got some pieces
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  Speaker 3: down in your minor league system that have people's attention.
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  Speaker 3: You've got young players on this roster that have people's attention.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, by Berkeley Catton's untouchable. You can't have Berkeley Catton.
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  Speaker 3: And there are a couple of others that you you're
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: gonna probably label that uh put that label on. But
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: you got plenty of guys to move here, and you know,
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: there are plenty of acquisitions that you can try to grab.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you want Robert Thomas from Saint Louis,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: you probably are going to have to trade Shane Wright.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: You know, that's probably what it's going to be. Uh if,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: but if you want. Apparently there's a rumor that MACKI
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Samuskevitch is available. Household name from the Florida Panthers. Sounds
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: like one of the town's buccaneers lives near Uh but yeah,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: up in Samuskevitch here, or go hiking up in Samu
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Skevitch hikes something. Oh yeah, yeah. Sometimes they get some
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: heavy winners, though they do it's windy. Samuskevitch is known
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: for their win but I mean a thirteen goal scorer
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: so far this season, and so you know, probably takes
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: less than there's something out there that even if it
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: doesn't work. I don't think you want to miss the
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: playoffs and have your fan base with all with the
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Mariners fly and I and the Seahawks being world champions,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: and maybe the Sonics announcement coming this year, and the
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Sounders are always pretty good to very good. I don't
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: think you want to miss the playoffs this year and
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: have your fan base or those that want to become
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: bigger fans, you know, talking about Well, they had a
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: chance to get in there. We missed it by a
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: point and they wouldn't make any moves to improve the team.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: There's a way if you have the will. And I
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: don't know, I don't want to speak for Jason Botril.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Maybe he's got several moves up his sleeve here today.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: But here we sit, you know, less than six hours
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: away and still nothing to improve this team, and a
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: little birdie telling me yesterday that he doesn't think they're
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: going to I think that's a mistake. I just think
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: that's a mistake.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean to me, it's the idea of
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: getting somebody on your top line or your second line
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: at a minimum, so you're a top six forward. You
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: would think that that's a varied degree of player right
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: where you know, there's the top guys out there that
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: maybe a team is willing to move on from and
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: you know, get out from nderneath their money and take
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: a young player in return, and and then there's somebody
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: that's you know, barely on their second line where it's like, okay,
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: you could you feel like maybe that's an upgrade to
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: some degree. Maybe not as big of an upgrade as
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: the you know player A, but you would think that
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: there's something that you could do if you're wanting to
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: do it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Obviously.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: To me, I'm hoping that that it's something big. I'm
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: hoping that they're trying to move on something big. And
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: that's why it's quiet to this point, not just some
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: little Well here's one where it kind of just feels
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: like it's a veteran presence and you know, we're getting
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: rid of this guy, and it's, you know, a a
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: wash almost where you're not feeling like you're making some
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: big move.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I hope they make a big move. We got time
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: to see.
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's I will be disappointed if we don't make
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: a move and if we don't make a big move.
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: And I just I looked at the twenty twenty seven
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: draft picks as well. We have ten then two in
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: the first round, of three in the second round. I mean,
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: we have things that we could package up, that we
• 19:20
  Speaker 8: could make a big one and those.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Are good things for a young franchise to do. But
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I mean we're now, I mean we're we're not crawling anymore. Yeah,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I mean we're walking, We're running.
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: We can't hang on to all of our draft picks.
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: We got to use them, Yeah, I mean package them up.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: I think it's just beneficial to make the playoffs this
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: year and more just because we can call it a
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: playoff season. I think that it. I think it. I
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: think it helps your young players develop to get a
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: little playoff more playoff experience this year. And I'm not
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: sure we've got the roster right now that gets in. Yeah,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: that's you know.
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: They haven't shown it so far.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're just way too consistent if they we
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: have one of their slumps at the worst time of
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: the year, we missed the playoffs. Yep, all right, and
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: so we'll see. I mean maybe, I mean maybe, like
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: a sleeve of Philly cheese steak pringles. Once Jason Botrel's pops,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: he won't be able to stop today. Maybe he may
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: one trade like that was delicious? Can I have more?
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Do you dare? Yeah?
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: Well, Dare, That's that's the crack and trade model right there,
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: do you dare?
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: All right, let's find out what's on tap? What's on tep?
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: What's on tep. Mike Ben will join us at nine thirty.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: We always give him the last word on trade deadline
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: day here on this show, so we'll do it again
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: today at nine thirty. Kracking Senators will play tonight at
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: seven o'clock at Climate Pledge Arena, the WBC got underway.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Apparently only Australia is gonna play early on. They've played
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: like forty four games and all the rest of the
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: countries have played one. No, they played two, but I
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: think they were the first two games of the entire tournament.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Japan just finished a couple of hours ago. They routed
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Chinese Taipei. Sho Aotani did hit a Grand Slam in
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: that game, and so we do have some actual WBC
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: action underway. The US will take on Brazil today at
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: five o'clock, and the Dominican Republic and Julio Rodriguez will
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: be taken on Nicaragua today at four thirty. The Mariners
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: lost to the San Diego Padres in Cactus League play
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: yesterday twenty seven to six.
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: Great defensive, they bought.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: An extra point apparently somewhere twenty seven to I mean,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I know it's Cactus League and it doesn't matter, and
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: you're just quote unquote getting your work in. But I
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: don't ever want to lose that badly in a baseball
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: game at any level, in any way, shape or form.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: No, thank you.
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: Twenty seven six, Yeah, that's not a good sign. Then again,
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: I mean, I suppose it's possible.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: That's just a long day at the yard right there.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's a rough one merry go round going
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: on while you're out there.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Definitely not a good sign.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: Then again, you do have a lot of guys, I
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: mean as much as anybody out there that are playing
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: on WBC rosters. So while everybody plays with some minority guys,
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: you're gonna be playing with more of them.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Jason Tatum's going to get activated tonight and for the
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Boston Celtics ten months coming back from that injury that
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: he suffered last year at the end of the playoffs
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: if you remember, and yet what a recovery and the
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Celtics have been very good without him. How good is
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: there are they going to be? I think they suddenly
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: become the favorites to win it all, you know, considering
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: how well they've played without arguably their best player college
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: basketball U double Oregon. They will wrap up the regular
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: season tomorrow at eight o'clock and Eugene. The WCC tournament
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: started last night. Koog's will play tonight at six o'clock
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: from Vegas against Portland and Seattle. You will also play
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Tonight at eight thirty, they'll take on yesterday's Winter San Diego.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: The Geese state championships continue throughout the weekend. Sounders will
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: be taking on Saint Louis at six point thirty on Saturday.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: We are three days from Tampafest. Hugh Millan will join
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: us today at nine o'clock to talk about the free
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: agents we might lose heading into free agency. And the
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Seahawks did make Drake Thomas a rich man yesterday. He
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: got an extension. We'll talk to Greg Bell about that
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: at seven five coming up next. Even though Tamperfest is
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: nearly here, it's turned into NFL trade season this week,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: and Max Crosby still waits to see where the Raiders
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: might send him. We'll discuss it next on Chuck and
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: That I've been talking to the Raiders, trying to get
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: in there, trying to get the Raiders to engage in the
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: potential trade of Max Crosby. Seems like healthwise he is
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: doing incredibly well. Seems like price wise he is drawing
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: the interest that the Raiders have thought. We just don't
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: know for sure. His weather not the Raiders are going
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: to trade it. He is an excellent player. He has
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: been a key part of the organization, one of the
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: faces of the organization, and one of Mark Davis's favorite Right. So,
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: if you're the Raiders, your decisions or this. Do you
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: do a full rebuild and take the draft picks that
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: would come with Crosby, which would include a first round
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: pick and more, or do you say he's our best
• 24:19
  Speaker 9: player and we're going to rebuild with him. It is
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: an unbelievably huge decision that makes sense that they would
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: take their time, But certainly I would say the fate
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: of both of these players is very much up in
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: the air.
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: As we had trod.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Field, Well, Ashley's Joe's in her favorite National insighter. That's
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: twice we've heard from me in rapaport this week.
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: I do you really like him?
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: From NFL Network the latest on Max Crosby. Also AJ
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Brown was included in that report as well. Good morning,
• 24:48
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• 24:51
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  Speaker 3: are three days away from Tampa f That's right, NFL
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: free agency officially starts next Wednesday, but we have the
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Monday Tuesday forty eight hour period where almost all the
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: action goes down. We'll be ready to cover it for
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: you come six am Monday morning. As NFL free agency
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: certainly dominating the headlines, and either that or NFL trades,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Seahawks continue to be linked to Max Crosby, but so
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: do a handful of other teams in the National Football League,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: most notably probably the Chicago Bears are being most actively
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: linked to Crosby. There have been blockbuster trades all week
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: long in the National Football League for significant trades. Maybe
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: not all of them have reached the point of blockbuster,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: but for significant trades, and I'm kind of expecting to
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: see another one here today before our show comes to
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: a close. Some other headlines. NHL trade deadline is today
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: at noon. We will find out if the crack in
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: between now and then they got five hours to pull
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: off a trade, either minor a significant one. Who knows
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: thus far nothing from Jason Bottrel and the Seattle Kraken.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: The team will take on the Ottawa Senators tonight at
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: home at seven o'clock. The WBC is underway early this morning,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Japan smoked Chinese Taipei. But for you waiting for the
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: US to make their debut, Cal Raley and the American
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: team will face Brazil tonight at five o'clock. Meanwhile, Julio
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: and the Dominican Republic will take on Nicaragua today at
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: four point thirty. Mariners lost in Cactus League play. It's
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: a good thing that we don't take these games too
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: seriously because they've now lost six in a row and
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: yesterday they lost twenty seven to six to the San
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Diego Padres. You heard me right, twenty seven to six.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: It was eighteen to two after three innings. That's not great,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: that's not n ideal. No, Jason Tatum's going to be activated,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: believe it or not. Ten months rehab and recovery and
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: he is ready to go after his achilles injury in
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: last year's playoffs. He's going to play for the Celtics tonight,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: who've been pretty damn good without him. College basketball, you
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: dow Oregon play tomorrow night to wrap up the regular season. Meanwhile,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: the GEESA State Championships all week in Long Coobs are
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: in the WCC Tournament Tonight. They'll be in Vegas, to
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: take on Portland and Seattle. You will be taking on
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: San Diego. Gonzaga doesn't play until Monday, in the way
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: that that tournament is structured. All right, So a lot
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: a lot going on with headlines. More on all of
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: that stuff at the OCHO at eight o'clock. But it's
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: time to talk to Greg Bell. With the bell tolls.
• 27:30
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  Speaker 4: Now with twelfth Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: and Buke.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Morning Greg, Good morning, all right. So I gotta ask
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: you what is the relationship that the local beat right
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: has with the national guys after this Florio Schefter argument
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: this week? I want to hear it from your perspective.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Well, we're bemused most times by national media master reporters.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: We don't know them. We've kind of as arms reach
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: we know of them and kind of bump into them
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: at league things around the league, but we were mostly abused.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: I should say, they report things. They have been in
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: the Sea Hawk c locker room. Ninety nine percent of
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: them have been the Seahork clocker room in the last
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: twelve years. So they're being fed their information. And they're aggregators,
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, because they aren't. They can't be in thirty
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: two places at once, first person reporting things. Yeah, so
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: they're aggregators like a bunch of journalism today.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Did you say aggravators or aggregators?
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: No, well, actually they don't aggravate me. They have a
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: completely different job than I do. They're aggregators that collect
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: all the information that we all put out and they
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: get to amplify it with bigger microphone, bigger megaphones than
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: we have on a bigger stage. But they're in every
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: one of those cities. There are people like the beat
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: writers of every team that are the first person on
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: boots on the ground, guys that they call their information
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: from and not to mention agents and leaks from the team.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: But yeah, they're two different worlds. They have a different agenda.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: And why do you have.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, because of the Florio schefter argument this week nationally, Yeah,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: that's why I.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Asked, Well, yeah, there's a lot of water carrying that
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: goes on from the national writers. We're well aware of
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: where things come from, and like this, for instance, the
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: Rashid Shaheed. Just the fact that they said that they
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: report from Schefter was that the Seahawks and the agent
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: are far apart. Well, who's the agent? The agent? It
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: is a really good friend of Adam Schefter, who Drew Rosenhaus,
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: who everyone is well aware that he has chapters of
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: microphone megaphones, I should say through Rosenhaus. So it's not
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: hard to find where that information comes from.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: For instance, all.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: Right, he why does an agent do that to drive
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: up to the client's price. Why does it do that
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: because the higher the clients price, the higher the payday
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: for the agent. You know how this works?
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: All right? All right? I had to ask. We were
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: talking about it in the last segment, you know, behind
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: your back. Greg Bell is with us, our Seahawks insider
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: from the News Tribune. All right, well, let's talk some
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Seahawks stuff. Let's talk about Max Crosby. Are you hearing
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: anything on that front, because again the reports are that
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: looks like he's going to be traded. How invested is
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: John Schneider in this process?
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: I just don't think he has enough chips to play
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: this game. If you're going to talk about a trade,
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks don't have the capital that the Braiders would
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: be looking for to trade them now. If they're trading
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: and even considering trading an elite pass rusher before the draft,
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: they're looking for a return that will help them right now,
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: as in between now and April twenty third, when the
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: draft starts, which means draft capital this year, and the
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Seahawks don't have it. They have four picks. The only
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: way I can see the Seahawks being in any derby
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: for any starter caliber, especially all Pro caliber player, is
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: to be having to give up starters. And they are
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: not in the market to give up starters when they
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: could be losing as many as half a dozen of
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: them to free agency. So it doesn't make a whole
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: lot of sense to me that they could pull off
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: a trade that would the Raiders would be attracted by
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: having only four picks, and three of them at the
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: bottom of each of the first three rounds, and then
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: girding for having to potentially lose the Super Bowl MVP,
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl kick returner, a Pro Bowl cornerback, as
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: starting safety as starting outside linebacker. They don't seem to
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: me to be the team that would be logically in
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: the derby to do that. A lot of reports you
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: get about trades and potential teams interested, again come from
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: an agent's point of view, trying to drum up and
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: drive up the asking price the commodity and then eventually
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: sometimes not in Crosby's case, perhaps, but sometimes it's for
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: a sign and trade where the guy getting traded will
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: get a new contract. Again, the agent is in the
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: business of getting the max value for his client as
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: he can get. So there's a lot of information put
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: this way this time of year especially, But there's a
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: lot of information because there are a lot of information
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: avenues today and not all of them are correct, and
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: some of them you have to look at the frame
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: of well, where are they coming from With the Seahawks
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: in this angle, it would appear to me the Seahawks
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: would be much more in the market for planning a
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: top flight free agent than they would buy a trade
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: getting an alto player. But I don't think they're going
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: to be the wrong.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, well that's where I was gonna go.
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: So the idea of not having the chips to play
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: in the Max Crosby Does that exclude them then from
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: or is it just out of character to go after
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: maybe a Trey Henderson where you don't have to give
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: anything up except for a lot of money.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be a counter to what Snyder has
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: done in sixteen previous offseasons. We've talked about one of
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: the only times I can think about in sixteen years
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: that Snyder has gone first splash, first day, top of
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: the market free agent was Draymond Jones for fifty one
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: million dollars in free agency a few years ago, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: that did not work out at all. They didn't get
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: They paid fifty one million dollars and they Bayle got
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: fifty one dollars of production out of him before he
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: was gone. And now he's a free agent yet again,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: he's going to be on a third or fourth team
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: on the last three years. So Snyder, he is very
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: in tune to both his successes and when he has failed,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: and when he has failed, he's deviated from his own
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: discipline plan. They budget this two or three years. He
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: was on his radio show yesterday talking about this, and
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: we've talked about this often. He goes two or three
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: years out to what his the finances, what his budget
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: of a roster is going to look like, not just
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: for fifty three but for seventy guys. And he prides
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: himself and he and his staff having so many connections
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: around the league about how accurate those projections are, be
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: it free agency, being salary cap and cuts, or who
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: other teams are going to draft. And over sixteen years,
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: the Seas have been very good, i mean top of
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: the league good at projecting what other teams are going
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: to do because of the relationships that they've built and
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: the fact that Schneider has worked Green Bay Packers in
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: Washington and Kansas City, and he's got a ton of
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: connections himself personally, and he's hired guys the same way.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: Stall That's to say, once they have a plan and
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: they build all this networking and come up with what
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: they think that the other teams are going to do,
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: they stick to it. And the times they have failed,
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: including building rosters that didn't make playoffs two out of
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: last three years before this one, they failed by deviating
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: from that plan, both monetarily in their budget and in drafting.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: So he's going to be sticking to it coming off
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl because what he just did in last
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: year worked better than anybody else in the league. If
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: there's ever a time John Schneider would appear to not
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: deviate from his plan and stayed disciplined to it, it'd
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: be this one coming off of the Super Bowl season.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks insider, and
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: of course you can follo him at g bel Seattle
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: on X and Thenewstribune dot com is where his coverage
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: of the Seahawks, all of it is there for you
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: and available twenty four to seven. All right, let's talk
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: about Drake Thomas. He got rewarded yesterday for his surprisingly
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: effective season. That's how I'd put it, because it surprised
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: me and so I feel good. Story there somebody that
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure a lot of people gave a chance
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: to to carve out an NFL career, and here he
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: is a multi millionaire this morning. Your thoughts?
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this time last year, he was special teams player,
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: had played seventy percent of the special team snaps. He's
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: a former undrafted out in North Carolina State that was
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: a practice squad player for the Las Vegas Raiders, who
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: waived him in twenty twenty three and the Seahawks picked
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: him up. Schnyder got him off waivers. His pro personnel
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: guys identified him as a core special team potential, course
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: special teams player, And when McDonald got here, he's like,
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: who is this guy who does everything right in meetings
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: and in practices. This guy's pretty damn good at doing
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: everything we're asking him to do with a new defense.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: And he absorbed it and performed it perfectly. And this
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: time last year he was still behind Tyree Knight, who
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: was the starter as a rookie at we set inside
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: linebacker next to Ernest Jones. And by training camp McDonald said, uh,
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Drake Thomas is doing everything we've asked him to do
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: and more. He's a shore tackler. He needs to be
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: more than special teams He's our new starting against side
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: weekside linebacker. That was the same time Tyree s Knight
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: got injured during training camp and Greg Thomas seized the role.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: It was the full time start of the entire season.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: He was a restricted free agent, meaning that the Seahawks
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: had the rights to him, but if they didn't want
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: to get him a contract or even tender him an offer,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: then he could have become an unrestricted free agent on Monday,
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: but instead of tenoring him an offer for just this year,
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: they give him a whole new deal for two years.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: His agent confirmed to me yesterday that it was at
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: one point five million dollars signing bonus, two years, eight
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: million dollars and up to nine million dollars total counting
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: some potential bonuses. And that's a pretty good deal for
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: a guy who was a fringe player waived by the
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: Raiders a couple of years ago.
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: Geze with the tampering period right around the corner and
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: basically free agent kind of underway to some degree.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, what do you see happening?
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: First, are they going to get the JSN and Witherspoon
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: extension deals done to or they know how much much
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: money they have left? Or do they go with a
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: free agent so then they can work those cap numbers
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: and signing bonus numbers to fit that in.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Now they'll do the latter.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: They have never done a foundational guy. Now they do
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: the foundational guy who's still under contract for a year
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: ago in his deal at around training camp right around
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: July early August. That's when those deals will get done.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: But Schnyder doesn't just spend, spend, spend, and then figure
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: out how much money's left for the guys who wants
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: to keep on extensions and foundation guys. He sets this
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: back to the discipline thing. He sets the number at
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: here's what we're paying Smith and Jigbook, here's what we're
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: paying Witherspon. And in this case we could be talking
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: forty million dollars a year for Jazz I think the
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: offensive player of the year at a wide receiver position
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: or the Diva's mad all the money and cornerback. We
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: know how value that is in the league. Withersman could
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: make thirty million a year. So you're talking seventy million
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: dollars to two guys. So that and that won't all,
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: of course we do this year or even next year.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: We spread across with their contracts. But the point is
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: he sets those numbers, he already knows what those numbers are,
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: and then he works backwards for the rest of free agency.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: He also said something interesting yesterday on the show We
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: know this, but we forget about it this time of year.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: On his radio show yesterday he said, hey, we got
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: a butt. The way we operate is we say we
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: keep a slush fund. He didn't use the term, but
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: we keep a slush fund for during the season so
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: we can go make the mid season trades we make.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: Those trades aren't free. When you gain a player, you're
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: taking on the contract from that another team signed into.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: That wasn't part of the budgeting plan for the Seahawks.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: Schneider hasn't had a number for Rashid Shaheed on the
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: twenty five salary cap. When you import, you get a trade,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: you import that salary cap number for the rest of
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: this season. And if for years I've left on the
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: contract for next year and a year after, you have
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: to budget and plan for that. He can't go get
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: Leonard Williams, for instance, and so multiple time Pro Bowl
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: in New York years. He can't add him in October
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: if he has no cap space, So he saves money
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: and doesn't spend in March so he can spend in
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: October early November to pick up an impact player, which
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: he's done almost every year in the last half dozen
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: to get his team over the top. He waits and
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: sees what his team is, where his team is midway
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: through the season, right before the trade deadline, and if
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: they are in contention, he goes and pushes. If they're
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: not as much in a contention, he might operate differently,
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: not trade at all, or might even trade some guys
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: and to the non playoff years. Sometimes he's done that,
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: But if he's in it, he goes. And this season
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: the Shihei deal got him a Super Bowl. We talked
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: about how I'll kickoff return against the Rams changed the
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: end of season for them. So the money that he's
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: not spending now that some fans might be going crazy
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: about is actually airmarked for November or the trade deadline
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: when they can go get somebody on an expiring contract
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: if it's a rental, or two years left to add
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: that cap station. So there is so much that goes
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: into this. They don't just wake up in the morning,
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: flip on ESPN and see some guys about to go
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: for fourteen million dollars and decide they want to offer
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: him fifteen million. That's not at all how they operate.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: They do it.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: They are strictly adhering to these plannings that goes way
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: into the season that none of us can see right now.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Well, get some rest. The frenzy is on on Monday,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: and I need you at your best.
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: It's already on ser By that poor yesterday too, he said,
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: I don't know what everyone's making a big deal about Shiheed.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: The new Shaheed's going to test the market and his
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: agent's have been testing the market for more than a week,
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: which I thought was a great line to tell you
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: that the league legal tampering career begins at the combine,
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: because that's when the agents are talking to other teams,
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: whether they're allowed to or not.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Oh thank you, Yes, Yester's disrespecting the rules, just respecting
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: tamper fest. I mean, that's a line I just can't cross.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Come on now, Yeah, well that's the reality of it.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Happened, it start, Yes, enjoyed the week, got be it.
• 42:08
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• 42:17
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• 42:19
  Speaker 3: We have fun. Enjoy all right, We'll be listening all right,
• 42:22
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  Speaker 3: a segment on JP's defense. JP Crawford. Today, I want
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: to talk about his offensive game and why he should
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: be in store for his best office offensive season to date.
• 43:04
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• 43:19
  Speaker 3: your eight top story of the day, Hugh Millan to
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: talk some free agency, not necessarily who the Seahawks. Oh man,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: this is disgusting. I got to get this off right here.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: That is awful. What are you looking at again? I'm
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: not looking at anything. It's stoop in Twitter like puts
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: things up there that I don't ever ever seek, and
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: then I then it sticks there and I got to
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: watch somebody have in their face carved into I don't
• 43:42
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• 43:42
  Speaker 8: You should be two in the corner say like, I
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: don't want to see stuff like this, and then it'll
• 43:47
  Speaker 8: recognize that you don't like.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't I don't know. It is
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: disgusting and I wouldn't have said anything, but it was
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: actually disgusting and I had to get it off there
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: and I couldn't fast enough. So Hugh Millon at nine
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: o'clo today x'es and o's we'll talk about free agency.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Mike Minton will also talk with us about the Kraken
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: at the trading deadline. Still have not done anything. We'll
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: chat with him at nine thirty. But I do what
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: talks in baseball today. We had Perry Hill on two
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: days ago to talk about infield, and we talked to
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: him a lot about JP Crawford, and then we had
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: a conversation yesterday about JP Crawford's defense, and then Anders
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: and I we did a stove podcast yesterday and we
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: talked a lot about JP Crawford. And one of the
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: things that we haven't talked about on our show is
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: how this could end up being. It sets up to
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: be a pretty good season offensively for JP Crawford. I mean,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: if he's gonna have a great season, this is it.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: And I'll explain that in a moment, because I think
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: he really needs to. With cold Emerson kind of hot
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: on his heels, you're in a championship window, not entering
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: one smack dab in the middle of one. JP I
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: think has to make those routine plays, as we discussed yesterday.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: If we're going to go ahead and allow him a
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: little bit of leeway for not taking away runs, he
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: certainly has to be excellent at not giving runs right,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: and so that part of it he's going to need
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: to come through on, which I think he has a
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: really good chance of doing. And then he also is
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: going to need to hit because cold Emerson's coming, and
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: cold Emerson's if he proves I'm one of the best
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: nine guys in this organization right now, by the time
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: we get to the playoffs or close to the playoffs,
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: you know, they might have to find a spot for
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: him in the lineup. So I think JP Crawford's solid
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: as our shortstop. I think they want him to be
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: the starting shortstop for the World Series Game number seven.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: I think that's what they prefer to have happen, but
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's ironclad that that is going to
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: be the case. Now, let's get to the offense. I mean,
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: we've got the ABS Challenge system being introduced this year.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I think JP Crawford not only has the best eye
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: on the team, he might have the best eye in
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: the game. Like when he's at the plate man, he's
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: usually right and the umpire's usually wrong when they disagree.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: I can't even remember how many times he ran down
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: to first last year thinking he had ball four. They
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: replayed it and he did have ball four, but the
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: umpire called it to strike. JP's got a really good
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: feel for the strike zone. And I would think with
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: this new challenge system in place that JP won't have
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: to live with those frustrations. He can challenge and I
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: think that clears him up. Number one, it should give
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: him an advantage because his eye is so good. Number Two,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: he can stop being so angry every time the umpire
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: gets it wrong because we now have a system in
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: place to settle these disputes. And maybe JP will benefit
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: from this ABS Challenge system more so than anybody this year. Offensively,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: I can see how that would work. I mean, you're right,
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: he does have a great eye. He does have a
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: tendency to.
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: Recognize when, like you said, like that that's a ball
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: and he's taken off down to first base or even
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: if it's in the middle of the bat, when it
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: gets called to strike, he will show that it's what
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: that wasn't a strike, And then then he has a
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: tendency to let it linger when he gets screwed over.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: And I get it.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: It's one of probably my biggest frustration in the entire
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: game that I love is an umpire screwing you over
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: in the middle of a at bat, because it does
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: change things, just one one, you know, changed call in
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: the middle of an ab changes what the pitcher's capable
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: of doing, what your your mindset is, how you approach
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: the rest of the ab. And so he doesn't handle
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: that very well. And so yeah, hopefully this is one
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: where he gets to win. When I first saw this,
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: it was down in Takoma and we were calling some
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: games down there, and it was like, boy, there's a
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: part of this that is like a double whammy. Right,
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: they bring up for strike three and you're like, nope,
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: that wasn't strike three. So then everybody pauses for a second,
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: they run the ABS system and it's like, no, it
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: was strike three. It's almost like you get it twice right,
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: you get wrung up, and then you challenge it and
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: they're like, yep, you're right.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Go sit down.
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: Like I said, Yeah, that's not going to go well
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: for anybody, because that's an embarrassing that's more embarrassing than
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: just taking strike three to begin with. You took it,
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: you arguet it, and then you get proven wrong. And
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: yet I don't see that happening with him olech of
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: a lot. I do see the other happening far more often,
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: where he's he gets kind of screwed on a call
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: and he asks for correction and it is corrected.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Hopefully that does help.
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: I could see that most certainly being a feather in
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: the cap of him having a better offensive year.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: And it's and the bottom line for him is he
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: just needs to stay within himself. And you and I
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: both like JP when he's hitting to all fields and
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: he's fighting off pitches the other way. We don't like
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: the JP that spins himself in the ground with his
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: pipe cleaner arms trying to hit home run in the
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: upper deck. That's not the JP that we like, and
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: if he is in a situation where he's actually going
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: to benefit from his great eye, does that not maybe
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: suggests that we're going to see a better version of
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: him this year, the best version. If we're taking away
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: from the umpires the power that he might have a
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: better eye than most umpires and we're going to take
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: that power away from him and give it to JP,
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: then it sort of it suggests to me that we
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: should get the JP that ends up flourishing, feels comfortable
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: in his skin, and is, you know, putting together those
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: quality at bats more consistently, versus the one that gets
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: frustrated and tries to make up for it by hitting
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: home runs. But I don't know. I don't know how
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: players tick. Maybe he'll be up two oh more frequently
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: and he'll be swinging for the downs more. I don't know.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: But I would think that if JP's gon going to
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: fend off cold Emerson, that the ABS challenge system should
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: benefit guys who one of their best qualities is their
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: eye for the zone. I would think. I mean, that
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: just makes sense to me. Two plus two equals four. Yeah,
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: well that's good addition. I mean, it is not just
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: a two plus two equals four edition. But you know
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: you're putting a couple of things together and then deducing
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: that this could come out to being highly beneficial for
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: this one individual player. And I'm with you hundred percent
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: think that.
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: I think that what you're the picture you're painting is
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: exactly what is going to be benefit. It might be
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: the most beneficial too. It's going to be the most
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: beneficial to those that have a good eye.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: You have a good eye as one thing.
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: Now, if you also don't swing at pitches on the
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: fringe of the zone, which he is up there in
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: the tops of the league as far as chase percentage,
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: he doesn't chase pitches, which is it's as much as
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: people are frustrated with JP, and I'm one of them
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: that gets frustrated, especially when he's trying to go yard
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: like he's you know, Hank Aaron. It gets irritating to me.
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: But there's one thing that he does that a professional
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: hitter does, and it's you try to hit pitches. You
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: swing at pitches that you can do damage on. If
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: you have a tendency of swing at pitches even if
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: they're strikes, but they're pitchers pitches, You're not going to
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: be very good to hit a ninety mile an hour
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: slider that's knee high painted on the outer black and
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: think you're going to do anything with it wrong. You
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: have to take a perfect swing to just hit a
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: little blooper to right field for me, right, you're not
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: going to do any damage on that pitch. And so
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: understanding what pitches, what strikes you actually take hacks at
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: is something that he's really good at. So he doesn't
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: swing it a whole bunch of pitches on the fringe
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: of the zone, which there's times that he takes strike
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: three and he shouldn't. But he also last year was
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: his best year as far as square and balls up.
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: I mean, just so he's getting better at that. While
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: he's getting slower and older, he's getting more refined as
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: a hitter. And understanding when I need to open the
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: floodgates and try to go yard. I'm not wanting them
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: to never try to go yard. I just don't want
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: you to do it all the time. I don't want
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: to see your helmet falling off every single bat that
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: whenever you get ahead in the count, No, just square
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: one up and every once in a while when the
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: when the you know, you're down by one and there's
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: two guys on it.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: It's the bottom of seventeen.
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you get two zero open, put one in the seats,
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: put us up by one. I'm okay with that. He
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: seems to be heading in the right direction. And I
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: think that this the ABS system is most certainly going
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: to be something he's excited about. And if he uses
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: it to his advantage, there's gonna be multiple times you're
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: gonna get see that little JP jogged down to first base,
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: you know, taking off his his shin garden whatever else
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: because he had a good ab and the umpire didn't
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: take him out of it.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Well, and I'm I'm the cow, I'm on team cal.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: I do believe that by the end of the season,
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: the evolution of this thing in its first year, I
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: think there will be an element of reserving it for
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: situations first and foremost, and then secondarily we might there
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: might be then then the second thing, the second iteration
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: of it is not only do we want it situationally,
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: we want our best hitters to be able. We want
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: to reserve those for our best hitters situationally. But if
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: you're JP and you just have a great percentage. I
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: think you will always be given the benefit of the doubt.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: I think that the organization knows how good his eye is.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: So if you just keep tapping your head and you
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: keep getting it right, they don't take them away from you. So,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: you know, as long as as long as you're as
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: good as I think you're going to be at this,
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: then it should set you up for potentially your best season.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Yet you certainly won't have the umpires to blame this year. Yeah,
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: because he gets angry with the umpires a lot. Yeah.
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it takes them out of it bats yea a
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: lot of times. And it's understandable how it does. But
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: you've got to get better at that, and that's something
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: that I haven't seen him get better. So this is
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: where you get to. You get to get yourself out
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: of jail for free if they put you wrongfully in jail,
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: as far as your your account goes, you get to
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: fix yourself.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: I'm with you on that.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: I think he's going to be I think most these
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: guys are going to have free ring to do it
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: until they just absolutely abuse it, you know.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even know if it's going to be.
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: Hey, we don't want to do early in the game,
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: because a bat with guys at second and third and
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: you get screwed on a two to one pitch, that
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: could be the difference in the game. So I don't
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: think whether it's in the third inning or the seventh inning,
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: I don't think they're gonna change a whole bunch of that.
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: But it most certainly Randy Roserien is tapping his home
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: and getting ten in a row wrong. There were like, hey, dude,
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: don't do it anymore. Yeah, you're done, You're done. Yeah,
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: your privileges have been revoked.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: All right, coming up next. Okay, we're now closing in
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: on four hours from the NHL trade deadline and still
• 54:31
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• 55:05
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• 55:07
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• 55:09
  Speaker 3: eight top stories of the day, the Friday Oat Show.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: We get you set for the weekend, recap the week,
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: give you all the water cooler talk you're going to need,
• 55:17
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• 55:19
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• 55:21
  Speaker 3: be equipped with all the ammunition you need to tell
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Spencer he's full of crap. Oh Spencer is He's the
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: most fullest Yeah.
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And Spencer's really tall, He's like seven feet tall.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Think about how much crap he Well, Spencer's are tall.
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: All You're right, You're right. I'm glad we're going to
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: get this oahoe hause. Yeah. By the way, I didn't
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: even put this in the Oat Show. But is it
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: daylight savings this week?
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 55:45
  Speaker 8: We changed the clocks back Saturday nights over into Sunday
• 55:49
  Speaker 8: morning whenever.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, means we gain an hour of sunlight.
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: Right, yeah, lose an hour of sleep. Yes, my least
• 55:55
  Speaker 8: favorite day of the year, is that right?
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah? I love sleep, I do, but I like next week.
• 56:02
  Speaker 8: I'll appreciate it, but for Sunday, Monday, and probably Tuesday,
• 56:06
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna be grumpy, okay, and Sunday we have to
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: be that's a early.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: That's a real shake. Yeah, changing there. Oh you're gonna.
• 56:14
  Speaker 7: Sunday.
• 56:15
  Speaker 8: We have been lily So now it's like we're basically
• 56:17
  Speaker 8: waking up at the equivalent of five thirty.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be thrown off by actually being grumpy.
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: Something's different.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: Wow, you've seen grumpier is.
• 56:27
  Speaker 8: It's like if Jessman decided to be nice.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: Exactly similar a lot like that. All right, well let's
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: get into the top stories and uh, let's face it.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we've been jumping the gun for a
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks on this, but NFL Free Agency is
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: almost here. The first official day of NFL Free Agency
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: is next Wednesday. But that's not the holiday. That's not
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: the party we celebrate. What we celebrate is what gets
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: going on Monday morning. Tampa Fast is almost here. Free
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: agency Frenzy the network's call it. By the way, Vick's
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: really good at these promos. Rich does a good job
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: right in these promos. But you have mashed mashed up
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: March Madness promo with frenzy.
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, because there's a frenzy in March madness, and I'm like, no,
• 57:14
  Speaker 8: that's madness.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's not a frenzy. You got to know the
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: difference between frenzy and madness.
• 57:18
  Speaker 7: People, Frenzy happens two weeks prior to the madness.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's going to be madness and there's going
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: to be frenzy, and we're going to enjoy both parties.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: You can't mesh them. You can't have like a march
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: frenzy madness. You get arrested. Yeah, I did not know it.
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: A felony or misdemeanor at a minimum, might not slap
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: the cuffs on you.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: But they should write ticket. Letter of the Wall says
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: they should. But what's his name for? From Shashank, he
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: was in for that. I heard maxing be madness and frenzy. Yeah,
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: I think that.
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: I don't remember it exactly, something along those lines.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: But it was something along those lines, and he paid
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: the ultimate price for it.
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: He got off easy.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: If you ask me, I agree. I agree. Well, the
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: free agency, friends, is gonna get going next week. We've
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: already seen some significant trades this week in the National
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Football League which are leading up. I mean, this is
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: just an added bonus to get sort of a trade
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: deadline before teams can put their financial houses in order
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: for how aggressive that they want to be. During the
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: free agency period, we saw Trent mcduffey, the former Husky,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: get traded to the Los Angeles Rams. There's really nothing
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: to like about that. In Seattle, Dj Moore is now
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: a Buffalo Bill being traded from the Chicago Bears yesterday
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: for a second round pick. David Montgomery is now a
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Houston Texan, and the Texan also made a trade with
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: a player going out of the market, and that is
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Titus Howard going to the Cleveland Browns. And so it's
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: been more. I mean, we've had a lot of trade activity.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: I have a feeler going to see another one today.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: We've been hearing all week long that Max Crosby deal
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: could be made soon. The Seahawks have been a name mentioned,
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: and the Max Crosby trade word cloud here this week aggressively,
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: but probably the Chicago Bears have been most prominently mentioned
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: as a suitor, and according to reports that Dj Moore
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: trade giving them a little more draft capital heading into
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: a frenzy. Well, maybe Chicago's in the pole position to
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: get the pass rusher from the Las Vegas Raiders.
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it seems as if that's where the reports
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: are heading.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: But boil boy.
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, it was a couple of days ago when
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: you know, somebody just kind of pointed out the you know,
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: when John Schneider gets his you know, kind of gets
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: smitten for somebody, if you will, he tends to go
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: out and get them.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: And I think that they've already made.
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: A couple swipes at this thing in years past with
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: Max Crosby. So the fact that now he's more available,
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: it seems like the Raiders have shown their hand and
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: he's shown his hand, and he doesn't want to be
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: in the Silver and Black anymore. Maybe Chicago does have
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: the pole position, But I I wouldn't be surprised if
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: John Schneider does that snake charmer thing you're talking about. Hey,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: look over here, Yeah, look at our shark, Druce Color.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: You like that. Yeah, I not only got our guy Mike,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: I got him for a third and a fifth. I'm
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: so good at this that would be impressive. He does
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: impressive things.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: You get him for a third and a fifth, they
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 6: just put you in the Hall of.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Fame right now, third and a fifth and Tayo Kata
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: you want to pat me on the back. Now, which
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: of six free agents starters might the Hawks retain? That's
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: more of the question, I think than even who might
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: they add to the Super Bowl roster coming up. We're
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: gonna go over that with a final round of check
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: yes or No at eight thirty today. But certainly it
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: seems like there's some sticker shock going on right now
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: with Ken Walker and Rashid Shaheed and kind of feels
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: like the market saying we're gonna pay them more than
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: the Hawks would have ever dreamt of paying them. And
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know how many of these
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: guys we're gonna end up retaining of the six starters,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: but we'll talk about it in check yes or no.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: But yes, that is part of this as well. There's
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: a weekend of trying to beat the tamperfest and get
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: the guys that you want under contract before they reached
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: free agency. I mean, the Rams just did it this
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: morning with Cam curl, so they had McDuffie earlier in
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: the week, and then they re signed one of their
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: own to keep him from hitting free agency. So the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Rams are getting some stuff done. Of course, they're not
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: World champ.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 8: Did we play them on Yeah, well yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: I think they're in the same division too. I think
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: we won that as well. Anyway, good luck Seahawks. Yesterday
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: did reward Drake Thomas with a brand new deal, and
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: what a success story he turned out to be. I mean,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: he just kept getting better every single game last year.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: Greg Bell was with US our Seahawks Insider one hour
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: ago discussing the significance of the move.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: This time last year, he was still behind Tyree Knight,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: who was the starter, and by training camp, McDonald said,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: Drake Thomas is doing everything we've asked him to doing more.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: He's a shore tackler. He needs to be in more
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: than special teams. He's our new starting inside weeksidelfe packer.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: That was the same time Tyree Knight we got injured
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: during training camp and Drake Thomas seized the role. It
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: was the full time start of the entire season. He
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: was a restricted free agent, meaning that the Seahawks had
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: the rights to him, but if they didn't want to
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: get him a contract or even tender him an offer,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: then he could have become an unrestricted free agent on Monday.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: But instead of tenoring him an offer for just this year,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: they give him a whole new deal for two years.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: His agent confirmed to me yesterday that it was a
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: one point five million dollars signing bonus, two years, eight
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: million dollars and up to nine million dollars to coming
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: some potential bonuses. And that's a pretty good deal for
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: a guy who was a fringe player waved by the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: Raiders a couple of years ago.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: And I don't know, I mean, maybe we make too
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: big a deal out of the name players that the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: Seahawks retain or go after in free agency. I mean,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: maybe just having Mike McDonald, I don't know makes all
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: the difference. I saw guys in preseason games named Tylecotta
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: and Drake Thomas who looked like bad football players, and
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: by the end of the season they were heavy contributors
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: to a Super Bowl champion. They just both got better
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: every single week. So maybe it didn't matter. Maybe it
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: is they Maybe they just get arrogant and say we'll
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: operate with half the cap.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: Mcdonald'll make them all better. It'd be a bold move,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 6: bold move. I don't know if I would recommend that.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: I still think good good players combined with great coaching
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: does well. We see what that turned into this last
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: year with Super Bowl. It is interesting that they've re
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: upped him, But then again, yeah, he was behind on
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: the depth chart and ended up taking the job and
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: never looking back.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: And you're right.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: You combined Drake Thomas and Tylecotta a couple guys that
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: are maybe fly under the radar as far as household
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: names go, but they most certainly contributors.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, JSN and Spoon are likely to be extended for
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: big money this offseason, but those are things that the
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Seahawks are going to deal with after the frenzy is
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: over and after the roster is mostly set. So yes,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: let's get it on. We're gonna get our tamp on
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: on Monday, so hopefully you we'll be with us starting
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: at six am. We will having pretty intense coverage for
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: Monday and Tuesday right here on Chuck and Buck in
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: the Mornings. Now, the NHL trading deadline is today at noon,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: and the crack and still have not made a move.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: Al Konisky, color analysts for the Kraken right here on
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: the Flagships Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM joins
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: us every Wednesday at nine thirty and we spoke a
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: lot to him about the deadline, and we asked al
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: about what a big trade, a significant ad could mean
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: to this Kraken team's playoff hopes this year.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Well, you have to ask yourself, you know, you know,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: let's use Robert Thomas. He is an absolute proven one seed.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: He's twenty six years old. You put him in that
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: one sea spot with the Kraken. Maybe Matty Veniers is
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: your two se Does that win you a playoff series?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I think the answer is yes, if you've got the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: blue line and the goal to mean that this team
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: seems to have right now. I think that's the tweak
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: you're looking for in that top six group. You're not
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: looking for depth. This is an identity shift with the team.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: So you've got to change that mindset of we're not
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: going to wait in me or we're not gonna be patient.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: We want to win now, and to do that, you've
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: got to give something up big. And it might be
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: a shameewright, you know, it might be an electionick, it
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: might be both of them, it might be prospects. You've
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: got to give something up big to get something big,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: because I guarantee you other teams are doing the same
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: thing for a guy like Robert Thomas.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels important. We had this discussion to start
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: the show. We've had it a couple of times this week.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: It just feels important to me that they do something
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: right now. I just think it's good for business. I
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: think the last thing the Kraken can have happen this
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: year for the good of the crack and going forward
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: is to end up this season missing the playoffs by
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: a point or two, and then looking back at the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: NHL trade deadline where they weren't aggressive and didn't add anything.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I do subscribe to the theory that
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: sometimes the best trades you make are the ones that
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: you don't pull the trigger on and you end up
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: keeping the guy that you almost dealt and he ends
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: up being better than the guy you brought in. I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: get that, But just from a perception standpoint, I think
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: that it would behoove the Kraken to get into the
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: playoffs this year and let that represent the growth that
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: this organization and this roster needs to start making their
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: way one step at a time toward a Stanley Cup.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: I think they got to make the playoffs this year.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: It would be nice. Obviously, you don't want to. We
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: don't want to miss out on the party. It seems like,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: you know, this entire city of Seattle is kind of
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: in this little playoff mode, right whether it's the Mariners
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: and then the Seahawks follow with a Super Bowl, you
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: want to kind of stay on that, stay in the
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: in the fold as one of the relevant teams. And
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: they've been kind of in the same mode where they're
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: kind of competitive, and yet they missed the playoffs a
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: couple of years.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: You know, close a couple of times, but miss the playoffs.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: And it's the same type of thing where you just
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: you're hoping that maybe some of these younger guys that
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: you have pop and turn into frontline superstar forwards. And
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: nobody's really done that yet. So go out and get it.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: Go out and spend a little bit, or trade somebody
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: if you have to uh to to get get somebody
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: that you think is bona fide upgrade as far as
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: one of your front front line or two forwards, and
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: start putting some more biscuits in the basket.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: He's bone fat.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 7: We need the biscuits in the basket.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: We need a suitor. The deadline today at noon, so
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: less than four hours from now Krack and still haven't
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: made a move. It's not a certainty that they will. Yesterday,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: Seattle was linked to Florida Panthers winger macki Samuskevitch, which
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: I do believe is a town near BUCkies between Stoa
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: and North Bench.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: Washington gets Wendy, I hear, yeah, Actually there's a sasquatch
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: sighting in Samus Skevitch.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Is that right? Yeah, it happens. Five trades were made
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: yesterday in the league. The NHL trading deadline usually features
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: like up to a million trades, so we're going to
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: get active at some point here today, but we haven't
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: seen really anything take place. I guess NHL general managers
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: like to sleep in. They need their winks lazy. The
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: team is currently in playoff position but narrowly cracking. Hosts
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: the Ottawa Senators tonight at six thirty, which means Mike
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: Benton will be on the pregame show at six thirty
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: here on KJAR, and he'll be joining us today at
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: nine thirty. We always check in with Mike right before
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: the NHL trade deadline, so he will be our last
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: item of business this week. As we discuss with him
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: the deadline at nine thirty. All right, Next item on
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: the O Show, the WBC is now underway. The World
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: Baseball Classic Australia has already played like fourteen games. It
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: feels like, yeah, and no one else has played. That's
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: what it feels like. But this morning Japan finally got
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: their WBC underway and it didn't take show Hey very
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: long to make headlines. The two one now Old.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Tony lights it though it is good. Old Tony Doors
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: to Yodoma is.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 10: On time.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: FS one broadcasting the game early this morning show. I
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: had three hits, including that Grand Slam in Japan won
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: easily over Chinese Taipei. The Aussies are off to a
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: two and oho start in pool play, but everybody else
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: is gonna get going as the day progresses. Cuba will
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: take on Panama. I think that just got underway. Julio
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: and the d R will play at four o'clock versus Nicaragua,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: and US meets Brazil at five o'clock today for their
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: first game. Cal Rawley and the Americans getting it started
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: today against Brasile soccer players rose, Yeah they're gonna kick
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: the balls. Yeah, they're not gonna have much of a chance.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: Don't bring a soccer ball. Do that your best chance?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 7: And I think Mexico play this morning too.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 6: Can somehow convince Aaron Judge to kick the ball around
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: a little bit.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe you got a chance.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 8: Sure, if Aaron Judge kicked the ball, the ball would
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 8: explode because he'd kick it so hard and'd fly out
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 8: of the stadium.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: Maybe if they confuse us and somehow get us to
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: play soccer instead of baseball today, they've got a chance.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm not so sure we're going to be
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: confused by your tactics. Mariners, says spring training yesterday, Oh
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: my gosh, you want to talk about a blowout in
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: the Casts League?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 7: Inside out towards left center field.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: It's carrying well.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 10: Packard turns to watch, and this one gonna go. A
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 10: three run homer for Bryce Johnson. That is the Padres
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 10: seventh home run of the day. And in the seventh
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 10: inning they now lead twenty.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: Four to four, and they weren't done. Yeah, Padre's Radio network,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: twenty seven to six was the final score. Yesterday, I
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: realized that's Cactus League and we don't worry about a
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: six game losing streak in the Cactus League. But Bucky,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: it just can't be fun in any way to lose
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: a baseball game twenty seven to six.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 6: Well, I think he just ran out of time. They
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 6: had him where they wanted a two days. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 6: we were on our comeback trail there. I mean it
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: was I mean we were only lost like three to
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 6: two in the final couple innings.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 7: Oh, you're right.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: I think we were getting ready to come back. It
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: was just we just ran out of time. And so
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: it is what it is.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: But again, my buddy Scotty yesterday when we were a
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: group texting about that, he's the one that brought up
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: the well, they balked an extra point somewhere to keep
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 6: it from twenty eight. So good good on them. And
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: it doesn't matter. We're playing a bunch of minority guys.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 6: You see today's lineup, I mean it's JP Crawford leading
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 6: off and then it's eight guys that are not going
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: to be on the team.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: I think the Padres are similar too, though, because they
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 8: have what seven guys that are in the World Baseball
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 8: Classic as well.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that it doesn't matter in the big picture,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: but believe me. Nobody with the Mariners won that game yesterday.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 7: They're just hoping it would end.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Luis Castillo, that was good. He got through the
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: first inning and in the second inning he was part
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: of a twelve run dedre second inning. They were up
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: seventeen to two after three innings. That was a rough one.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: They play again today at noon. They'll take on the
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: Texas Rangers. The Sounders are going to Saint Louis. Speaking
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: of Saint Louis, Saint Louis and Jason Tatum is going
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: to return to the court today for the Boston Celtics.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: He of course, tore his achilles in the middle of
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: the NBA Finals last year, and after ten months, he's
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: getting ready to return to his team. Unbelievable, crazy, incredible.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: I heard a conversation today about they're not you know,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: are they rushing him. There's no way they're rushing Jason Tatum.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Number one, they don't need him back right now, and
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: he is their superstar player. They're not going to rush.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: Plus they're really good without him, so I think this
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: is more Jason Tatum's just ready and we might as
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: well get him back. And I mean, it's one thing
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: to add like a role player at this stage in
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: the season when you're playing well. To have to reintroduce
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: your best player onto the roster when you're playing well,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: I mean that probably will be a little bit of
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: an adjustment period, and so I would think Tatum's going
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: to hit his groove right as the playoffs start. Yeah,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: I like that. That's good for my fantasy team. Oh
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: you're fine, You're in good shape.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: There.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: That was a real big upset pick, right, Yeah, that was.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: I did not think the Celtics are going to be
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: good without Jason Tatum.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 8: They've been great well, And it was what I heard
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 8: this morning too, is they were saying, oh, well, actually
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 8: he was probably ready a week and a half or
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 8: two weeks ago, but they've just taken their time with
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 8: bringing him back, which is just even more incredible that
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 8: to come back that fast from that injury.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: Well, college basketball regular season ends this weekend. The Huskies
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: can at least finish a disappointing season with a winning record,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: and they'll have to defeat a rye to do it.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: There you go. Well, Duck hunt going on this weekend.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: As bad as the Huskies have been, the Ducks have
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: been worse. Eleven and nineteen on the year four and
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: fifteen in conference play. They will tip off at eight
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: o'clock tomorrow from Eugene, and then the regular season comes
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: to a closed. Big Ten Tournament begins next week. Meanwhile,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: the WCC tournament began last night Portland and San Diego
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: both winning. Portland earned a date with the Kogs tonight
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: in Vegas at six o'clock. Meanwhile, San Diego now faces
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: Seattle You tonight in Vegas at eight thirty. Zags won't
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: play until Monday. They stagger their tournament. It's actually quite
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: interesting to try to make sure that either the Zags
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: or Saint Mary's get their automatic bid. They stagger it
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: out so that they don't risk losing one of those
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: two teams. I guess uh. And so you if you
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: finished last, you got to win like six games where
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: the Zags have to win like two.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 7: Very interesting port like favoritism. But all right, you're there
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 7: your best products.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah uh. And of course the GEESEA State Championships taking
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: place in Tacoma all week in long. We got broadcasts
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: for you tonight. Greg Bell Mike Ben gonna both be
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: on the call of games tonight. But we're gonna claim
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: we're gonna crown some state champions by the end of
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: the weekend, so best of luck. They're in Tacoma, all right,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: coming up next. We've done it all week long. We
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: have our check yes or no finale as we get
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: you ready for NFL Free Agency. Sports Radio ninety three
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: point three kh A RFM nine o'clock during the football season.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: X's and o's. Well, we're are on the verge of
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: the frenzy, so we got to check in with our guy,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: our QB one our top analysts around these zier parts,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: former you dubbed quarterback twelve year NFL career, Hugh Miller
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: and provides his insights to this radio station on a
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: pretty regular basis, and he joins us now on Chuck
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: and Buck. Good morning, sir, Good morning guys. Great to
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: be with you. How our things did you survive?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 11: Bucky's wild Friday night party that he uh, we had
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 11: more fun than than two guys ought to be able
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 11: to have.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: That's right, at a lot of yucks. I'll tell you
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: what we need on this calendar. We need a prize fight.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 11: When I was a kid, we a good old fashioned
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 11: heavyweight boxing match, you know, right around this time.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: The calendars.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 11: Just come on, we got to pick this thing up
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 11: with you, because you're picking up with the Seahawks.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 6: Uh yeah, I don't know if I would qualify as
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 6: a prize fighter or that anyone that people would see.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 6: But there's some people I'd like to punch.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: Logan Paul says he can beat up any NFL Yeah,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: do you want to take him on you by chance?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 11: Sure, I'll step to the front of that line. I mean,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 11: I'm exactly who everybody would vote to represent the NFL,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 11: killing me every time.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's dive into this. I mean, we've
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: got six, you know, regulars. Yeah, and maybe you even
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: qualify them as starters that are going to hit the
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: free agent market. A world championship team, and so that's
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: going to start next week. So let's kind of go
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: through some of our guys and just how capable they
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: should be. Ken Walker, how do you read that situation?
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: Feels like he's gonna get a lot of money on
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: the free agent market. How important do you think it
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: is for the Seahawks to keep him first lose him
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: on the market. Well, he's the most high profile guy
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: for obvious reasons. I don't think he's gonna be a
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: sea hawk. I think he's out. I think that the
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: market's going to be fifteen plus. I don't think that
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: Seattle's going to be willing to dance that way. I mean,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: I just think that you look.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 11: At their overall philosophy. You know, you're you're gonna sign
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 11: uhuh JSN, You're gonna sign Witherspoon, that would be my thought,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 11: and then everything kind of falls in after that. It's
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 11: like when you when you load up your your car
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 11: for a long trip. You know, you put the biggest
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 11: suitcases in the trunk first, and then the little stuff
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 11: you find. You know, oh, oh, well, there's a little
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 11: spot right in there, and you stick the little stuff in,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 11: and the big stuff is JSN and and Witherspoon, and
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 11: you know, you know, and I think that that Canine,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 11: now there's some concern there. There's only four running backs
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 11: who've been had over one hundred snaps in the outside zone,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 11: and Canine was one at one hundred and eight. You know,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 11: he's five point three yards per attempt. Sharbone had about
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 11: half that at fifty five. He's four point five yards
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 11: on the inside zone. Canine's five point six yards pert
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 11: temp zach is three point three. You know, even when
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 11: even if Sharbonay had never hurt himself and you were
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 11: letting canine walk, I would think that you're, you know,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 11: a substantially less running back. I'm not sure if the
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 11: Seahawks share that opinion, but I think that there's some
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 11: people in the you know, whether it's Kenny McIntosh, even
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 11: Vellis Jones. There may be acquisitions in the draft, there
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 11: may be you know, I think that they'll fortify the
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 11: running back group, but I don't think it's gonna include
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 11: k nine.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, So I mean I just got one follow up
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: with that. I mean, they don't bring him back.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: Difficulty in making that position group as good or better
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: or is it going to be significantly worse simply because,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: like you said, the skill set that it takes to
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 6: run that outside zone and there hasn't been a bunch
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 6: of guys that have done it, at least, you know,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 6: outside of Seattle last year. And so I'm just wondering,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 6: is that something that you're worried about it being a
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: lesser position group considering how important it is.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 11: All the guys who were planning to talk about in
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 11: this segment that one concerns me the most, you know,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 11: like like that Villis Jones, it was a little bit
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 11: intriguing to me. George Laani is not intriguing to me.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 11: Zach Charbonnet is a nice number two. Uh even before
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 11: he heard his A c L. He's got an A
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 11: c L. So to me, given the desire for the
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 11: Seahawks to have a physical running game, I'm concerned. But
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 11: uh I would I would say that John Schneider and
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 11: Mike McDonald deserve the benefit of the doubt for now.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 11: And I'm gonna withhold and say, hey, what does the
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 11: roster look like? You know, going into September. There's a
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 11: lot of there's a lot, a lot of water still
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 11: to pass under the bridge on in terms of player acquisition.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: And but it does have me concerned.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 11: And uh so, you know, but but if you take
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 11: if let's let's put in player perspective, If if all
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 11: the general managers were free agents, John Schneider might be
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 11: the number one GM that all the owners would want
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 11: to acquire. And if the head coaches were free agents.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 11: Thirty eight year old Mike McDonald, given what he did
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 11: and in the future for him, he might be the
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 11: number one coach. Yeah, in the NFL, like like we
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 11: are blessed with the people at the top making these decisions,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 11: you know. I've I've been very consistent on my belief
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 11: that K nine, even though he's only drafted ten spots
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 11: higher in the second round than Charbonney, I think he's
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 11: a totally different back. And so yeah, for me, it's
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 11: gonna hurt. And and you don't really know running backs
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 11: until you have you have to watch him for a
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 11: long time. Because Georgecelane could rip off a seventeen yarder,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 11: you know, like like if you're an NFL back, you're
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 11: you're you're pretty damn good if you're suiting up, I mean, uh,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 11: and so you're capable of getting yards if it's blocked.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 11: But similar Bijon Robinson, who happened to think he is
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 11: the best running back, he could go five straight carries
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 11: and have zero yards. So it's not just the stats.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 11: I think you have to watch the end zone copy.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 11: When I was with the Cowboys, we used to have
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 11: the quarterback meaning was North Turner, Uh, Troy Aikman, Jason Garrett,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 11: myself and Norm would uh from the watching the end
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 11: zone copy, He'd say, Uh, what you know, hey, what
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 11: freeze the tapes to? What gap do you think Emmett's
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 11: gonna go? And you know, and and Troy might say,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 11: I think he's gonna stay in the you know, the
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 11: the strong side a gap, and and and I might say, well,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 11: I think he's gonna cut it to the backside. B
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 11: and Jason had have you know his whatever. I think
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 11: he's gonna bounce it whatever, you know, And you just
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 11: kind of watch these running backs. And I played with
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 11: Terrell Davis, the kind of the first guy that really
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 11: excelled in the outside zone with the Broncos, and and
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 11: and I just think it takes a long time to
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 11: to uh gauge who's better. I think Canine's a lot better.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 11: But I'm I'm I'm willing to see who they that's
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 11: right in the choir.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: Our QB one, Hugh Millan, little special free agent X's
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: and Osa with you today, I mean I was with
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: you all season long for your analysis about Rashid Shaheed.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: He was a nice contributor to this team super Bowl championship,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: but also wasn't a huge contributor to the pass game.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: So when they're talking fourteen eighteen million dollars a year
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: for this guy. I'm assuming Hugh Millan says, let him walk,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: he's out.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 11: Yeah, no, no, this isn't just yeah. This is both
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 11: my opinion and what I think the Seahawks will do.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 11: I think you're looking at two hundred and sixty because
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 11: I think he's going to be pushing twenty million. There's
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 11: no way Seattle's I'm paying this. You know the market
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 11: for Shaheed. So so here's a guy that in twelve
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 11: games had eighteen catches two hundred sixty six yards. That's
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 11: twenty two yards per game. That's he multiplied that by seventeen.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 11: That's a three hundred and seventy seven yard season with
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 11: zero touchdowns. You got Tory Horton coming back. He had
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 11: one hundred and sixty one yards in eight games, so
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 11: he's he's basically the yards is almost identical, but he
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 11: had five touchdowns. Projected over a season be eleven touchdowns.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 11: I think he's young enough, and I think that they
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 11: feel good about where he is with UH, with what
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 11: they've cleaned up UH, and his shins are going to
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 11: be okay, and and and then and then you know,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 11: obviously with Receid Sheat, it's that the kick and punt
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 11: returning bill. But here here's a note. I'm not sure
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 11: if a lot of cfns know this, uh, but uh
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 11: Tory Horton didn't have one single kickoff return line he hit.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 11: He had punt returns and rasichi heat for the entire
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 11: season count of the playoffs had fifteen U punt returns
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 11: to twenty six hours. That's a fifteen point zero average.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 11: Remember that number, fifteen point zero. Tory Horton had fourteen
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 11: point nine average. So I think you're you're okay in
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 11: the punt return the kickoff returns.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 11: Look she he'd had two for touchdowns, one against UH
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 11: Atlanta one one against the forty nine ers. Though those
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 11: are hard to walk away from. And then and then
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 11: and look at all the touchbacks. You know, we're late
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 11: late in the year. They say, hey, we'll just.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: Give you the ball on the thirty five because we
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: ain't kicking the rasiji.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 11: That that that hurts, But it's not worth paying you know,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 11: upwards of twenty million dollars for so you know, though,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 11: you know, if they want to have Tory back there
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 11: on the punt returns, I think he can be explosive.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 11: Hellani and Dreek young are certainly no Rasi Jihad. Maybe
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 11: they are acquire another guy, but they're not going.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: To pay that type of money in my opinion.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Hugh, the I mean, you win a Super Bowl
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: in the price of your free agents seems to go
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 6: up and understandably so another guy kind of in that mix,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: Kobe Bryant.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: Do you think that they're going to pay top dollars
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: safety made safety dollar for him? Yeah, I think I
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: think he could be sixteen plus fifteen sixteen plus. I
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: don't I don't think they want to pay that. He
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: could fall back if the market isn't what he thinks
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: it is. You know, I could see that coming coming back.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 11: But uh, certainly all these players Seattle would want back,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 11: every single one of them. It's just it's just the
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 11: value that that they'd be willing to pay. You've got
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 11: you know, this has to be part of this discussion,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 11: is is who Seattle thinks they have on their roster.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 11: They had twenty four rookies last year. They're the third
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 11: youngest team in the NFL, and and there's some guys
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 11: that that I think we may be surprised to say, Hey,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 11: they feel confident. Look, they played good football with Tyokatta.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 11: After that that Buck the Tampa Bay game, they played
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 11: good football with Tylecotta and they got to do this
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 11: Aj Finley six ten pounds.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 11: They feel like, hey, there they have They feel like
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 11: they have up and coming dudes in the building, and
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 11: and and uh and and so I think that they're
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 11: just not going to pay this kind of premium. So
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 11: I think Kobe Bryant is a maybe. But if I
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 11: if I had to bet, I think he's probably walking.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: Wow here Mellon our guest here, I do want to
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: get to Crosby and Hendrickson, So let me lump the
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: other three together. Woolean, mafe job, what's your read on
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: who might be staying and who should be going.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 11: I think Wolan's out. I think he's gonna get sixteen
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 11: to twenty million. I think there's just too many lapses. Well,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 11: the freak show that he is in his ceiling, but
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 11: you know, you look at the three losses he's pivotal
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 11: in all from the forty nine er game, even the
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 11: Super Bowl, you know, the touchdown, the give up, you know,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 11: he you know, he was kind of asleep at the wheels.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 11: So I think I think that Wolean's out. They're not
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 11: They're not going to be in the you know, north
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 11: of sixteen you know, fifteen sixteen million. What I fan Jie,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 11: I think Job. I think Job is more likely. I
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 11: think he's he's the guy on the list now. I
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 11: happen to think Josh Jones was a very valuable pick
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 11: up last year, the best backup tackle that I've seen
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 11: in the last half of you know, several years, and
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 11: so Josh Jones, I think you're gonna be able to
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 11: re sign him as a backup tackle. I think that's
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 11: important because in the three most important games at the
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 11: end of the year, you know, the forty nine Ers
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 11: and then now you know he had to go to
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 11: Carolina and hold serve and then come back and and
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 11: or excuse me, it was the Rams on the Thursday night,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 11: then Carolina and then forty nine Ers in week eighteen.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 11: You're starting left tackles Josh Jones and it just wasn't
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 11: an issue. So so I'm gonna count him in that group.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 11: I think Job is more is probably back in. I
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 11: think Mafe is out. I think you know they're gonna
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 11: he's he's a speed rusher, and I think that's valued
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 11: by the other thirty one teams, or at least enough
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 11: of the other thirty one team more so than maybe Seattle,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 11: because when you look at how how how you want
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 11: the defensive ends you want for Seattle, I think Mike
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 11: McDonald's look, look, you got guys like Nuosu and d Law.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 11: Look at their frames. These dude, these guys are thick.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 11: Derek Hall thick and and and it's the first and
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 11: foremost set the edge. You gotta that it is more
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 11: important to be a dominant defensive end stopping the run
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 11: for Seattle than it is And then you can you
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 11: can fall into your sacks. Even with Baltimore Ravens. When
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 11: Mike McDonald's defense pick pitched a triple crown fewest points allowed,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 11: most turnamows, most sacks, it was with Kyle van neyd
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 11: North to thirty years old on his fifth or sixteen,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 11: but he was physical Jadavian Clowney uh north to thirty
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 11: years old, fifth or sixteen, and and and he set
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 11: a strong edge for them.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: So uh, you know that's the important part of it.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 11: So no, I I think boy Mafy's out, there's gonna
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 11: be enough teams that like that speed aspect of him
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 11: that he's gone all right.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: Well, without MafA, you're down an edge. I mean there's
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: even talk about DeMarcus Lawrence possibly hanging it up this year.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: So when you hear names like Max Crosby and Trey Hendrickson,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: I mean obviously that comes at a big price with Crosby,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: not just salary but draft capital. Are these two guys
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: worth it? Well?
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 11: Hendrickson even you know now he's older, I think thirty one.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 11: Even if Hendrickson was younger. No, he does not set
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 11: the he does not defend the run the way Mike
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 11: McDonald would would want a defensive end. He only plays
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 11: on the right side. So I would be stunned if
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 11: Trey Hendrickson was a Sea Hawk Crosby I would say
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 11: probably not, but I would not. I would not say
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 11: it's a no chance.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 11: Obviously now he's at twenty eight, I think that that's
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 11: a little older. Remember Cliff averill and and Michael Bennett
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 11: when they were required, they're twenty six and twenty seven
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 11: years old respectively. You know, Chris Clemens was right at
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 11: that age. I think I think twenty six when they acquired,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 11: maybe even twenty five, like so, so I think you
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 11: start twenty eight is about as as old as you'd
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 11: want to get for major acquisition like this. But Crosby,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 11: you know, he sets the edge and and and so
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 11: I don't think it would happen. But I would say
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 11: no chance. With Trey Hendrickson, probably not with Crosby. Here's
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 11: a name that that that might might surface. Jonathan Grenard
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 11: from the Vikings. You know, that might be more of
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 11: a guy. You know, there's some some some questions about
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 11: what the Vikings want to do with him, and and
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 11: he would be more of a fit and be able
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 11: to be acquired for less less, uh, you know, less
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 11: of a cost when you consider all the costs associated.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 11: Now I'm not I'm not predicting, but that would be
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 11: kind of that. If you're asking me what's more likely
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 11: Jonathan Garnard from the Vikings or Trey Hendrickson coming over
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 11: from the Bengals, I would say Grenard and and but
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 11: probably neither. And as we're talking about guys that that
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 11: you know in the building, we mentioned twenty four rookies,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 11: Jared Ivy, the edge resher. They got a young guy
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 11: that they think, remember that name, Jared Ivy, that that
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 11: you know they the Seahawks have guys in the building
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 11: that they believe in and and I think that they
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 11: feel like, hey, uh, you know you guys who are
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 11: coming to UH, your contracts are coming up.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: We we we would pay this.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 11: And sometimes maybe the value that the Seahawks put on
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 11: these guys are half what the market would bring. But
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 11: the Seahawks are not budging off because the rest of
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 11: the league thinks that they're double what Seattle thinks. Uh,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 11: They're not gonna They're not gonna deviate from their belief
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 11: in the value of these guys. And what they believe
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 11: in is is UH is their roster. And then the
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 11: other part, very important part about this is Seattle's playing
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 11: the long game. They're playing the long game with the
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 11: UH with the compensation picks. Now, you don't get the
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 11: compensation picks till the twenty twenty seven draft. But if
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 11: a lot of these guys are walking out like I'm forecasting,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 11: you know, I don't I don't expect them to be
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 11: making a bunch of of you know, setting off fireworks
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 11: in terms of acquisitions. I think they're gonna be like, Okay,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 11: that works just great, because net net we're we're on
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 11: the on the plus on, you know, I guess would
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 11: be on the negative side. We're losing more than we're
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 11: bringing in. But guess what we get compensation picks in
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 11: twenty twenty seven. We get third and fourth rounders.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 11: Right, And and so I think they're playing the long
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 11: game in that regard. And I think it applies with
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 11: boy Mafe and the defensive ends.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: Well, don't stray too far from your you know setup there, Yeah,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: because Monday too day, we might be getting you on
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: the horn to evaluate some big trade, some big free agents. Yeah.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 11: Yeah, well there's some, you know, just a few guys,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 11: you know, just three or four guys. Riley Mills, of course,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 11: he had the Super the Super Bowl sack. You know,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 11: if you go back to my Monday after we we evalued,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 11: I said, damn, you watch this guy Riley Mills at
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 11: Notre Dame and it's hard to see a hell of
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 11: a lot of difference between Mason Graham. Mason Graham was
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 11: a fifth overall pick. Riley Mills was a fifth, fifth
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 11: round pick. I think they really like Riley Mills. I'd
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 11: mentioned Jerry Neamya Prichard, you know now I think Josh
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 11: Job Job is coming back. But I think Josh Job
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 11: we talked about it in the Super Bowl. I think
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 11: the and the and through the playoffs. I think these
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 11: teams are going to target Josh Job. So I think
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 11: that there's a a spot in there near my preacher. Uh,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 11: you know, I think he's added physicality coming out of
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 11: Auburn runs a four to three.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: But but you know that would be a young guy.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: Uh. And then.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 11: Well, I guess I mentioned the other one, aj Finley.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 11: So there's some young guys that I think they are
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 11: going to make an impact on the twenty twenty six curs.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: All right, man, Well, thank you very much, great stuff,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: great breakdown. We appreciate it. Be with you. I'm sure
• 1:36:15
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• 1:36:16
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• 1:36:20
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• 1:36:23
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I think that's one way of saying what he had
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  Speaker 3: to do touching grass? Oh yeah, oh Bucky, let's just
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  Speaker 3: say the meet back in here, all right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Why with the crack and made a trade? Mike, where
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  Speaker 3: what's going on?
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  Speaker 12: My read on this shuck goes back to about a
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  Speaker 12: month ago when they took the the big swing reporterly
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  Speaker 12: at our Timmy Peneren and depending upon how you want
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  Speaker 12: to read into it, I mean reports where he wasn't
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  Speaker 12: going to go anywhere, and I mean anywhere but Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 12: But within that there was an offer of Leon dry
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  Speaker 12: a settle money and he's making the most per year
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  Speaker 12: right now in the NHL. So I think to me
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  Speaker 12: it shifted a changing or release, an attempt here to
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  Speaker 12: you know, change the communication here of the vision with
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  Speaker 12: what they wanted to do.
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  Speaker 3: And then after that the noise began.
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  Speaker 12: To get louder and louder and louder that they wanted
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  Speaker 12: to go after a big thing year, so to speak,
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  Speaker 12: at the trade deadline. Robert Thomas's name is out there.
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  Speaker 12: Jordan Kira's name is out there, et cetera. So now
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  Speaker 12: the question comes down, with about roughly two hours and
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  Speaker 12: twenty eight minutes left right now, how much leverage do
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  Speaker 12: you have to actually pull off this kind of trade?
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  Speaker 12: And they get very here from team to team, I think,
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  Speaker 12: you know, the closer and closer to that we get
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  Speaker 12: here to the deadline, the more that the leverage gets,
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  Speaker 12: I think it becomes a bit steeper, which then bears
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  Speaker 12: a question, how much do you want to I think
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  Speaker 12: torpedo what you have the structure wise in this roster
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  Speaker 12: which has gotten you to this point in a playoff spot,
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  Speaker 12: and when you consider where the optics for about roughly
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  Speaker 12: four or five months ago, this is this is a
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  Speaker 12: pretty their terrible spot right now here to be. And
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  Speaker 12: yet what we're seeing right now as a division that
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  Speaker 12: is getting better and better and literally I can go
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  Speaker 12: down the list and the crack and are the last
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  Speaker 12: team here to make a move here for this week
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  Speaker 12: in the deadline.
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  Speaker 3: So it's gonna be.
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  Speaker 12: Fun to watch here. Certainly, you know there are still
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  Speaker 12: some possibilities out there they can't do that. There's a
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  Speaker 12: name in Florida, young kid named MATKIW. Samuskevitch who is
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  Speaker 12: a very gifted playmaker, gifted score, but he is playing
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  Speaker 12: deep and I mean deep on that depth chart for
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  Speaker 12: a two time Cup winner. And then Ken Johnson's name
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  Speaker 12: is out there from Columbus, which will be a pretty
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  Speaker 12: a pretty decent return here as far as what they
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  Speaker 12: want to do offensively, But I mean, man, the time
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  Speaker 12: is sick and right now, for.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, do you feel they have to make one? And
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  Speaker 3: personally and do they feel they have to make one
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  Speaker 3: before the deadline? So two different questions there, one for
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  Speaker 3: you personally and then what your read is on what
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  Speaker 3: they think right now?
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  Speaker 12: Well, you know, we can always count two things here
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  Speaker 12: the sun rising, Chuck, and you know you talking about
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  Speaker 12: roster construction. And I say that in a very good
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  Speaker 12: way because that's your baby and that's your jam. It's
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  Speaker 12: it's a very very very intriguing picture to look at
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  Speaker 12: when you examine the growth of a franchise and the
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  Speaker 12: growth of a roster from five years ago and even
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  Speaker 12: in the baseball on some mariners rising here from the ashes.
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  Speaker 12: What I think certainly is of the opinion within a
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  Speaker 12: majority of what they want to do within the krakend.
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  Speaker 12: They want to upgrade this roster and do it quick
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  Speaker 12: with a top line guy. You know, I hate to
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  Speaker 12: use cliches, but it really does apply here. It's easier
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  Speaker 12: said than done. And we've heard over and over that
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  Speaker 12: this is a seller or this is a this is
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  Speaker 12: an advantage seller's market when it comes to the big
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  Speaker 12: ticket names out there, and already for a guy like
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  Speaker 12: Robert Thomas, the Blues are commanding a king's ransom. To
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  Speaker 12: me and my opinion, the Cracket have the draft picks,
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  Speaker 12: they have a stable of first and second rounders. They
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  Speaker 12: have prospects who have been turning heads. They have prospects
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  Speaker 12: also ready to pop and be major league ready. They've
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  Speaker 12: also gotten names on their roster that they can easily
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  Speaker 12: move for you know, a return like this which would
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  Speaker 12: solve I think, you know, a hole for a team
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  Speaker 12: that wants to, you know, have a change in direction.
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  Speaker 5: Here.
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  Speaker 12: We've heard the name Shane right thrown in there a lot.
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  Speaker 12: Whether you want to lead, he's happier and happier at
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  Speaker 12: this time, that's your call. I've asked him, you know,
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  Speaker 12: playing blank. He's happy with where his game is at
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  Speaker 12: right now. He wants to get better. However, yet it
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  Speaker 12: you know for a team that missed the playoffs here
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  Speaker 12: for the last two years. Making that big swing, making
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  Speaker 12: that big push does so many wonders for what you
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 12: want to do, I think for your room, injecting energy
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  Speaker 12: into it, a reward here for the guys who have
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 12: said playoffs, playoffs, playoffs since November and October. And then
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 12: we talk about those who you know who go to
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 12: these games, who listen here to our shows on the station,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 12: to those who text us here in the text line,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 12: there is a desire here to take that next big
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  Speaker 12: step here with the teams who are in this playoff spot.
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  Speaker 12: That's where that big swing really comes into place. So
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  Speaker 12: I think my own take on this, my opinion, it
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  Speaker 12: really helps them more than anything else, just a clock
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  Speaker 12: at taker right now to see if they can get
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  Speaker 12: that return, that can that can go out the door
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  Speaker 12: and please somebody else here to get that big name.
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  Speaker 3: In Mike menting with us here on chuck them back
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  Speaker 3: in the morning talking about the NHL trading deadline. Are
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  Speaker 3: they really dangling Shane Wright? I mean, is that somebody
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  Speaker 3: for the right price that they would move off of
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  Speaker 3: million dollar question?
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  Speaker 12: And you know, it's been very tough to understand if
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  Speaker 12: they really want to move him my thing directly here
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  Speaker 12: from the inside.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, the reality is this here, Chuck.
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  Speaker 12: You know, you have a player who's just you know,
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  Speaker 12: past twenty years of age, and he has a bright
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  Speaker 12: future ahead. But he was picked up here at the
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  Speaker 12: draft as a cornerstone piece, I suppose to cornerstone piece
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  Speaker 12: of this future along with Matty Veniers. Now times have
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  Speaker 12: changed here in the last couple of years. They made
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  Speaker 12: the move here to get Schadler, Stevenson in partially here
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  Speaker 12: to insulate Matty Veneers until it was time that we're
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  Speaker 12: seeing a little more of the needle move here in
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 12: Benier's direction the right way for the kind of player
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  Speaker 12: that he wants to be there defensive part of this.
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  Speaker 12: But now you have a coaching stat that is trying
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  Speaker 12: to really, I think undo a lot of the tie
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  Speaker 12: ups he's had offensively that have you know, hindered his
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 12: game and held him back. I think maybe, you know,
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  Speaker 12: for the last couple of years, and we're seeing more
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  Speaker 12: and more of those flashes. You're come to the big picture.
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  Speaker 12: Yet right now, I look at what they want to do.
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  Speaker 12: Stevenson's a big face off guy. He's maybe the most
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  Speaker 12: attendable face off guy, especially in late game situations where
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 12: you have to win games three, two, two to one,
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 12: and that's been the recipe for their success to be
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 12: in this playoff mix here in the first place, Veneers
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 12: is basically your crown jewel of all of this. You know,
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  Speaker 12: could he be a two C and a cup contender?
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  Speaker 12: I buy that argument certainly. And this is where they
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 12: get the big picture with the big star comes into play.
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  Speaker 12: Where's them bump Shane right a little bit further down?
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  Speaker 12: And I think if you want to get a big
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  Speaker 12: name in here, you want to kind of make a
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  Speaker 12: hockey trade that would I think satisfy all parties. Does
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  Speaker 12: he maybe flourish with ice time a little bit more
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  Speaker 12: elsewhere or here?
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  Speaker 3: Possibly? But I think in this case, with what you.
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  Speaker 12: Need to move on from and bring in here, I
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  Speaker 12: wouldn't be surprised if his name is out there, and
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  Speaker 12: it's a matter of time to see if they I
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 12: want to pull that trigger on this case.
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  Speaker 3: Right for Thomas? Straight up? Would you do that?
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  Speaker 5: Boy?
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  Speaker 12: Wouldn't that get the Internet the interwebs on fire?
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  Speaker 3: Wouldn't it? Yeah? Yeah, wouldn't it?
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  Speaker 12: Robert Thomas is going to require a big haul and
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  Speaker 12: I'm talking like, not just a roster guy trade is
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  Speaker 12: one for one, and these trades are more few and
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  Speaker 12: far between. Wow, a lot more I'm talking about. I'm
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  Speaker 12: talking about in in the baseball sense. If you want
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  Speaker 12: to bring in, you know, a forty to fifty home
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  Speaker 12: run hitter, you know, ops of you know, pushing two
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  Speaker 12: hundred plus, I'm just you know, using hypothetical here, it's
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  Speaker 12: going to require a couple of roster players, a couple
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  Speaker 12: of draft picks. From what I've heard, it's going to
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  Speaker 12: require a massive Kings ransom. I mean, are are are
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  Speaker 12: are the Blues right now in the window where you
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  Speaker 12: know they they need to haggle?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think so.
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  Speaker 12: They're fourteen points plus out of the playoff picture from
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 12: this week. It's clear that they're trying to move in
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  Speaker 12: a different direction here because they have only won a five.
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  Speaker 12: They only have five guys left in the roster that
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 12: won the Cup back in twenty nineteen, and they have
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 12: young kids here who are on the come up and
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 12: ready here to take over massive positions. But as a GM,
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  Speaker 12: as always, when you make a move, you want to
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  Speaker 12: get the best piece possible here to set yourselves up.
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  Speaker 12: So the question is, depending upon where these talks have moved,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 12: depending upon what team, are you willing here to pay.
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  Speaker 3: The big price.
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  Speaker 12: My take is that he's worth the price of admission.
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  Speaker 12: He plays a sneaky, high grade, authensively fueled game. He's
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 12: a great two way player, He's one wherever he's went.
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  Speaker 12: I think he solves a lot of your problems. And
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  Speaker 12: I kind of put this here within the crack in
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  Speaker 12: big picture, if you can find a way to make
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  Speaker 12: this move work. And again I also want to add
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 12: to that, there's word two that if this doesn't work
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 12: out for a big fish here in the crank inside,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 12: they're looking fill out the draft here from what I've heard,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 12: and at July one, to make that big move again
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 12: and they're going to reassess here. But in Thomas's case,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 12: you bring him in or somebody else in as well.
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  Speaker 12: What that does that it bumps Veneers further down to
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 12: that two C spot. You bump Stevenson maybe down as
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 12: well to a three seed, depending upon where Shane Wright fits.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 12: Freddie controu ben Meyer's great question. But what you're doing
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 12: is that you are strengthening one of the most important
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  Speaker 12: piece of here of your team, and that's your center
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 12: position from top to bottom. They call that the spine
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 12: within your hockey line up here. And Thomas is a
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 12: one seed for what he can do, take face offs,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 12: play big minutes, make you know top end line nates better,
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  Speaker 12: to you know, move veneers off high leverage spots a
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 12: little bit more to give him better matchups as well.
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  Speaker 12: You're doing yourself a big favor here, So depending upon
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 12: the hall, I think my own take is worth here.
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  Speaker 3: For a guy like Robert Thomas, the fantastic Mike Benton,
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  Speaker 3: he'll be a pre game tonight six thirty. Uh, they'll
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: drop the buck seven o'clock. It'll be cracking senators. But
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  Speaker 3: we got two hours and eighteen and a half minutes
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  Speaker 3: before the NHL trading deadline, and Mike will not move
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  Speaker 3: an inch until the time expires. Thank you, sir. Awesome
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  Speaker 3: as always, we'll talk to you soon. All right, you're
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: the same, my friend. I appreciate you. Hi to Bucky.
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  Speaker 3: All right, there he is, Mike ben joining us right
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  Speaker 3: here on the Chuck and Buck Booze news to close
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