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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles 052726 LIVE, - Debt Collectors, Due Process, and Doing It Right: Real Wins from the Radio Ranch · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: Forward moving and focused on freedom. You're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
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  Thank you so much for joining us, and welcome to the program.
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  Unknown: Well, Alvin, as we say regularly, we would too. We're trying. We do attempt at six days a week to change the world even if it's just a little.
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  A change in the big old world even a little is a pretty damn big feat, I would say. We've made a mark.
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  We'll make another mark. We'll start here today for the next two hours to discuss things hopefully of a freedom oriented.
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  And
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  Roger Sells, your host here, your freedom master, the
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  Pied Piper of Freedom. I just go around playing my pipe and planting the freedom seeds. Radio
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  Ranch is our base, our platform,
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  and it is the May
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  27
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  for Tom d. If you're listening, Tom,
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  twenty seventh.
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  And,
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  yep, here we go. Radio Ranch. Paul, if you'd be so kind to identify the people that
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  so generously
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  give us their platforms and extend our reach, we wanna give them not only proper recognition but proper credit. If you would, please,
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  Unknown: sir. I'd be, I'd be happy to.
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  Make
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  sure, yes, I got levels.
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  Okay.
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  I got. We're on radios.
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  Unknown: You got levels.
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  Unknown: I got levels. Levels you could ask for or anything more. We could ask for anything more, right?
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  We're on radiosoapbox.com.
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  Thanks to pastor
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  or not pastor
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  Paul English
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  of Paul English Live. Why do I always screw that up? I think I've got this mental block. I think I need another in
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  my in my repertoire.
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  Unknown: You see how that works? That works really well. Go
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  Unknown: ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And pastor Eli James brings us eurofolkradio.com.
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  Paul was also instrumental in that too because he kind of hooked it all up.
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  We're on Global Voice Radio Network and
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  that's radio.globalvoiceradio.net
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  and
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  rumble.globalvoiceradio.net
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  and give me one second here.
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  There we go
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  And now Discord is now connected also. I forget about that.
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  But I don't have the feed sent to it yet, so let's do that to channel one, do that to channel three, and do this to there.
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  Okay. Got them all. Got all the buttons fixed.
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  Yep. Our website is the techlive..com.
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  Unknown: Alternate name of our program is Tech Live. Go ahead, Paul. TechLive.
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  Unknown: Yes.
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  We're,
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  our globe our
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  our
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  website
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  is the betterlearnthat.stocks.com
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  and where you could use free conference call. The links are all right there. So, you can join us live on the show.
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  That's
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  everything. I've got Discord is up. It is running. Oh, wait a minute. Oh, I'm still connecting. Still connecting.
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  Unknown: It's connecting.
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  Well, it's like my
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  my magicJack the other day, and I had to once I got it plugged into juice and got a phone plugged into it, and it sat there a minute and did whatever it does.
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  And there was a dial tone, and it was like magic.
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  It was like magic. Cool.
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  Unknown: It was cool. Speaking of that
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  speaking of that, actually,
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  I got a I got a gift. I got a surprise from Mark.
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  Oh, yes. Oh, From Mark and the Straw Man.
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  He sent me a coffee mug.
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  Not just any coffee mug. He sent me a coffee mug that he could have sent to you.
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  Unknown: Yeah.
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  Unknown: It's a tech support coffee mug. It says,
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  before you bother me,
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  is it plugged in?
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  Is it turned on?
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  Are you sure?
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  Got an excuse to fall. I've got an excuse to fall back on. Seriously,
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  go check.
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  Unknown: I've got an excuse to fall back on. Yes. I know. I know. But I'm old. For one thing, I'm old. The other is that I have got a pretty bad vision, and so
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  I can't read things, generally instructions,
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  or anything like that. So Mhmm. Just very challenging. Okay?
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  And so when I set this up with Paul, who was nice enough to help us there six, eight, ten months ago, whatever it was,
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  I had Annie over here, my friend Annie, who's been down here twenty eight, twenty nine years
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  with her good eyes, and we got it set up, but I didn't put it all together and do it. So I didn't have that experience. So
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  and then you and Annie talked and and got it set up. So I do have a excuse to fall back on because I didn't realize that was all done. It had the electrical electrical thing. Thing. Should've,
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  but I just didn't. So, anyway, that's that's the excuse I've got to fall back on. I don't feel too guilty. I'm
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  just tickled to death that that phone's working after
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  well, I've been messing with this for a year. You know, really?
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  Yeah. Last year, Skype screwed everything up.
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  Unknown: And Talk about feeling guilty.
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  Unknown: Yeah. You felt guilty? Yeah.
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  Unknown: Talk about feeling guilty. I mean, I am the the technical engine that keeps this working and you went almost a year without a telephone because it wasn't plugged in. We should have. No. We shouldn't have visited that. I mean, you thought that it was the phone because you dropped it And I thought, well, it's possible,
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  but we still should have double checked.
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  Unknown: We should've. We should've, could've, and then the problem is it because there is no phone, Paul, and I don't have any way to get ahold of each other in all of these
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  modern technological days except through Zoom here. So, anyway, we got it behind us. We're over at these people don't wanna hear about it. I've got a phone. I'm not gonna give the number out publicly,
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  but I can call back in and do things like I experienced one of the one of the real needs I had for it yesterday when it got hooked up as soon as we got off the phone.
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  And I took about 10 deep breaths and went to the bathroom.
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  I I engaged
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  a call. This is kinda interesting. I engaged a call with my bank,
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  the Wells Fargo bunch, the stagecoach
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  bank that robs you is Wells Fargo.
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  And so I went to the, I went to the original number that I've always called for customer service.
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  And, you know, they usually they got an automated duty. Yeah. Welcome to Wells Fargo. None of that. You know, all the crap. Right?
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  Well, a guy from India picks up. There's no introduction, no nothing. The phone picks up, and it's a guy from India, and I can hear the room in back of him, you know, all the all the Indians over there. And I'm going, is this Wells Fargo? Oh, yes, sir. Oh, yes, sir. This is Wells Fargo. I'm gonna bug you into the module.
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  I said, this doesn't sound like Wells Fargo. You've got a on the on the intro and all that. Oh, yes. It is Wells Fargo. I finally said, I'm not talking to you.
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  And hung up on him. And,
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  and I had to go to the website, find some other number, call him, got it through. Well, I only had to spend two and a half hours on the phone with him.
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  That's all.
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  Just the majority of my damn afternoon spent on with Wells Fargo with all their
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  crap. They got Wells Fargo's got big problems, man, and their computer system, I find.
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  So, anyway, I didn't lose my temper. That was good. I didn't lose my temper at the nice ladies and
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  we got most of the stuff fixed.
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  But anyway, I'm back on track with the phone. It feels good. It was
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  it's so good to hear the phone ring when I'm still asleep this morning with some solicitation call. Paul, do they are they giving you solicitation calls on your magic act?
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  Unknown: No.
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  Unknown: You don't get them if you're 65
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  or any of these?
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  Well, I've gotten a couple of those already. I thought they ended at the end of last January, but evidently not. Anyway, the saga of Roger in Ecuador was some of his technological,
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  obstacles and his poor vision.
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  So, that's that's the way life is.
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  So, anyway, well, are we at war yet?
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  Unknown: I'd I I don't have a clue.
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  Unknown: We're vacillating from one minute to the next, but it seems to be
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  that
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  we're at war unless we go and and prostrate ourselves,
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  over there on the sand and beg BB, baby, to please sign the agreement.
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  We can't do an agreement. Everybody says, oh, what's your US runs Netanyahu?
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  Don't you think that for a damn minute?
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  We know exactly why they run us is because we're all their slaves.
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  They've got us in $40,000,000,000,000
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  of hypothecated
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  fraudulent debt that needs to be confronted and can be confronted
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  should we ever get a platform in the numbers we need,
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  and they do not want to have that confrontation.
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  I promise you.
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  Yeah.
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  They don't want this put in front of thirty, fifty million people.
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  So, hopefully, we'll pray. Every day is another day. I feel like what was his name?
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  Mel Fisher? Is that his name, Paul? Today's the day today?
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  Yeah. Today's the day. Today. You know you know what we're talking about. Right? If you don't,
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  you may remember back, I think it was in the July,
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  a guy named Mel Fisher. I'm pretty sure that's his name.
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  A treasure hunter discovered the richest treasure ever found, the Atocha,
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  the Spanish galleon, the Atocha,
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  in very shallow water off of Florida.
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  And and unfortunately,
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  his quest for that treasure lost his son and his daughter-in-law. They were out there on the looking in the the something capsized their boat and they both drowned.
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  He continued on and darn defeated and find the Atocha with
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  with
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  copious amounts of emeralds.
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  You know, emeralds. They got the emeralds from Columbia,
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  Paul. Columbia's got some incredible emerald
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  resources.
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  And, there's a bunch of emeralds on there and gold and everything else, of course.
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  Today's
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  the day. That's what Mel Fisher would say every morning. Today's the day.
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  We'll see. If it's not, tomorrow may be the day. Paul, how are you doing this morning, brother?
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  Unknown: Yeah. I'm I'm doing good.
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  I was
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  I was I was trying to adjust the noise gate on my microphone because I've got a bunch of noise coming in on the program. So Really? Really? It takes me a minute to
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  mute
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  or unmute.
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  Unknown: Had a email from an old friend this morning, Debbie, young Debbie, down in Atlanta going, what she's been telling me for fifteen years I've known her or whatever. I wanna move.
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  I wanna move out of The US. Well, I've been we've had that conversation through Argentina and now through Ecuador, and
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  Debbie says she's listening. Well, maybe it's your day to decide
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  on leaving The US. I'm surprised. I really am quite surprised the way things are forming up that more people aren't
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  talking about that or initiating on that.
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  But and I understand why. And
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  but
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  I'm just surprised because it really looks like The US gonna get hit real hard here, and you're gonna have a synergistic
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  a synergistic reaction
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  to a number of very important vectors.
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  One being water. You you've heard the
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  you've heard the warnings from out in the Southwest already.
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  Colorado.
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  There are there are already rationing water in Colorado, some parts of it. I'm not sure which.
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  The
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  the Hoover Dam is almost below.
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  It's right close to the below
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  where it cannot pump any water at all. I forget what they call it. There's a term for it. Black pooling or something like that.
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  That's going to affect Nevada
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  out there where Brent lives and that whole area including
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  on the way down to Phoenix.
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  Big drought. Of course, we've got all of the, now, we've got the new vector
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  coming in of a lack of fertilizer because of this stupid Iran situation.
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  So you got lack of fertilizer and lack of water, and then you got all the chem trailing and the fact that unless it's
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  on Santo seeds that are
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  formulated to grow in aluminum or something,
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  you're you're not gonna get any if at all crops crops your yields.
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  The electrical situation
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  doesn't look very good with all these data centers going in.
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  They're just that as well as the water that it affects just a lot of really
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  negative stuff. I mean,
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  how many how many reactors are are are these
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  data centers are they planning for The US, Paul? 3,003
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  of them?
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  Unknown: They're gonna use tremendous copious amounts of water, copious amounts of energy.
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  Unknown: Uh-huh.
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  So I'm I'm
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  surprised I'm just not seeing more people talk about leaving and moving other places, really. I kinda expected that one. You know, when I left many years ago,
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  seen a couple of people leave, but not many. Generally, people in retirement age. I did run into a young American
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  couple the other day at the mall when I was buying that phone,
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  and they were sitting at the next table drinking some coffee, talking a little English, and I didn't say anything, of course. And,
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  until they got up, and then I said something, but I couldn't help but hear you speak in English, and they live here. They're probably in their thirties. I didn't ask them any more questions.
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  Probably should've. Kinda like to ask. You know, talk to those folks like Brent talks to people. I like to do that too.
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  So, anyway, but I just commenting and Debbie said, well, how's Ecuador?
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  Oh, I said, what's this? Best place I've ever found to live.
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  Just general off the hand comments. It's about like living in Hawaii
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  at about a tenth of the price.
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  The climate's fantastic.
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  Food's fantastic. It's all
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  gotten within a hundred and hundred and fifty miles a year. Very rich volcanic soil.
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  They don't have the extra funds to buy
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  things like fertilizer and glyphosate.
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  They don't need to generally.
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  People are very nice.
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  It's never above. People find this pretty appealing. Most people down here like the climate. You know, first thing you say, what do you like about Ecuador? They're gonna tell you the climate. Okay.
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  Because you're especially up here in the mountains, we're up at a I'm I'm at 8,000 feet, and Quito's about another 1,500
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  feet higher than that, but so you don't have any humidity.
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  I noticed
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  last week when we're having dinner with Suzanne and Dean, and Suzanne's going, well, I hate glasses, but I can't hardly wear my my contacts here. They're they're sticking. It's dry. No humidity up here. K? Mhmm. And they were up at 9,000 feet, and I met them up in Quito. And
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  so you've got that situation. It's never above 85,
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  and it's never below 55,
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  365
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  a year.
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  That's right square in the temperature range. Okay? And it's
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  it's just nice. It's dry. No humidity. Even though you're on the ocean and the Equator,
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  it's very dry. It's very, very
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  agreeable with people.
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  And just like it. You know, we're on the dollar, of course, and but Ecuador doesn't have the printing press, so they can't inflate it. They've gotta borrow
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  the circulating dollars,
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  and they're not gonna borrow more than they need
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  from these
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  long noses.
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  So they
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  this what that is squeezing the the locals
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  because they've got to try and handle
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  that inflation somehow, and they can't print the dollars or they're not gonna borrow them to overcome it.
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  And so you see package
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  shrinkage.
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  You know what I'm talking about where the toilet paper gets a little
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  little thinner, you know, not thinner like that, but on the on the width of the roll.
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  That kind of stuff.
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  But the people are very nice, and they
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  Ecuador owns its own central bank.
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  K?
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  I don't think we've mentioned CDBDCs
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  have come up before. Well, here,
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  we had a communist president about ten years ago for about ten years and he tried to do a cyber
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  coin for the country
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  because he had a hard on for the IMF. He and that's when their own local currency got inflated.
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  But
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  he tried to force the country on a on a digital currency, and they wouldn't accept it.
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  So I don't have any big fears about CDIC.
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  As long as Ecuador, Argentina,
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  Panama,
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  and one of the Caribbean Dominican that's not Dominican. One of the islands in the Caribbean, they're they're all on the dollar. So as long as we're on the dollar, the the Federal Reserve's gotta print dollars.
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  K? Period.
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  So that that makes it very appealing because you can go to the ATM and get out to your own currency and you don't have to fool around
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  with all these exchange rate problems in other countries.
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  And, I mean, it can be a real hassle. Yeah.
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  So, anyway, it's a good place to be. Best place I've ever found to live, I think, looking back, and
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  I'm damn glad god sent me here. So, if any of you are looking, there's there's a couple of go to countries. Yeah, I heard Nick Fuentes the other night.
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  On a conversation may have been with Alex here last week but at the very end, Rise Ever could get ready to cut off his comment was Central And South America are the go to places in the world.
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  And I thought about that several times. I really agree with Nick.
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  Where else you gonna go?
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  Yeah. Really? In Greenland? Russia? Russia maybe.
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  Climate's
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  not exactly ideal.
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  But the this is nice down here. They're, yeah, there's corruption. You know, it's humanity.
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  But
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  but it's a nice place in the world to be. The people are generally very, very nice. There's not anti
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  American sentiment down here that I've come across anyway. Been directed at me necessarily.
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  Roger. It's a nice place to be. So so, Larry, if you're getting ready to retire from driving that big truck, you wanna get out all these things that are impending
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  up there, you might wanna kick a tire, buddy. How you doing, Larry? Good.
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  Unknown: I think I've renewed my license for the last time. They're good for four years. So I had to go renew it by by June June
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  by by the time my birthday rolls around. And
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  so
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  I'll be 61 when
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  it expires.
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  And I think I'm just gonna do something else
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  not
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  drive anymore. It's just rough on your body. You know? Yeah.
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  I'll probably do something part time, and then I'll start collecting,
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  know, my Social Security and retirement when I'm 62.
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  I'm gonna start collecting Social Security when I'm 62. I'm not gonna wait. I
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  Unknown: would think that's smart. Have they not upped that to 63?
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  Am I wrong?
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  Unknown: No. Well, I don't know. It could be, but I'm mine's at 62 still. That that's the earliest I could collect it.
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  Unknown: Let me tell you a story. When I did that, because I was in the situation. I was in Argentina. I was having to sell gold to live, and I don't like that at all. I turned 62 down there, and that's when my passport got stolen
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  by the Americans
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  that raided my house. And so if you're in a foreign country, you gotta apply for Social Security in the country or an embassy,
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  And
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  and you gotta have a copy of birth certificate because mine was lost or stolen. So you go back to DS 11
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  and you gotta jump through all of those darn hoops
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  and
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  you can't draw Social Security if you don't have an active passport.
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  So that was what threw me through that series of events. Now interestingly enough,
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  when
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  I finally got with somebody
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  to get it, see if I could get the account open.
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  But because you gotta open the account to draw off of it.
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  And
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  it was 62. The gal goes, are you sure you don't want to wait till you're 65? You get more.
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  Right?
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  And astutely enough, I said, how much more?
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  Did a little compensation, $30.
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  I said, I'll take it now. Thank you.
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  K?
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  So be aware of that. You'll get less, but it won't be much, I don't think.
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  Anyway, might as well get it while the dollar's got some purchasing power left.
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  Unknown: Right. So I I watch a I've watched a lot of videos by these Social Security experts that help people, and
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  they
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  they I've I've watched a number of videos
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  they did the math
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  and see the government wants to lure you into waiting as long as possible.
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  Wait till you're 70 because you're gonna get more. So they use the the lure of getting more as a way to who keep you hooked into the system.
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  And the problem with that, Roger, is
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  it it in at the end of the day, it the math all works out the same same. So you just got to enjoy if you retire at 62 or or if if I say
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  should say if you start collecting Social Security when you're at when you reach the age of 62 as
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  opposed to 70,
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  the same set of circumstances
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  in terms of your health deteriorating
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  and
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  how long you're gonna live,
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  you're gonna collect the same amount of money because
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  let's just say I think I I read there's a statistic on the Social Security
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  website
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  that says the average age
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  that someone that a male dies is, like, I think it was 76
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  and 78 for females. Now they may have raised that a little bit.
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  Might be old figures. So
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  if you do the math okay. So you you take your Social Security when you're at 70, and let's just assume you're gonna die when you're 78.
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  So you got eight years you're gonna collect that higher amount. Alright?
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  So you take the guy that got to enjoy
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  eight more years of retirement.
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  So he takes his Social Security at 62,
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  and then he also dies at 78.
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  There's sixteen years.
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  Though he's getting less
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  and even though the other guy's getting more, he he he's getting more over a shorter period of time. When you do the math, they both come out this to the same amount of money. So what's the difference? You might as well just enjoy it earlier.
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  Unknown: Same amount of money or the same purchasing power. I don't know. I'm hitting all around those ages you're throwing out there.
• 26:28
  I got in and opened mine when I was 62 in Argentina
• 26:33
  and had been living. I'm 77,
• 26:35
  about to turn 78 here in few days. That's a couple of months and
• 26:39
  I've been living off it for so
• 26:42
  pretty good. Sixteen years now. I'm one of the few people, I think,
• 26:48
  that probably has gotten out what I put in.
• 26:52
  Most people die before they get what they put in, you know? So,
• 26:57
  anyway, I'm fortunate for it. I know I wasn't gonna take it. David, my friend, David Strait,
• 27:03
  not the one that died recently, the old one, the Patriot good guy, and David and I used to have that conversation. I wasn't gonna even open it. I didn't want the damn money. He says, your money. And so he's the one that finally talked me. He he and circumstances
• 27:18
  talked me into go ahead and applying for it. I've been tickled to death to have it for all these years, and
• 27:24
  I it ain't much, but I can live on it down here pretty damn comfortably.
• 27:30
  That's another part of Ecuador. Just a second. Paul, let me finish.
• 27:33
  I don't think I could even rent an apartment
• 27:36
  up there for what I get, and here I can live very, very well.
• 27:40
  That's the reason a lot of people are down here is because the economics. Yes, Paul.
• 27:44
  Unknown: That that's the thing I've got going on. I, you know, I
• 27:49
  I get a monthly check, but it isn't that much.
• 27:52
  I
• 27:54
  can do what I want to or need to do.
• 27:58
  And I usually run out of money by the end of the month, know, have the whole too much month left at the end of the money. But I did a little quick figuring while you and Larry were talking.
• 28:09
  If you started collecting yours at 62,
• 28:13
  if you would have waited to 65,
• 28:17
  the $30
• 28:18
  a month difference
• 28:20
  would have only been a total of $10.80
• 28:24
  dollars
• 28:25
  more that you would have gotten in that thirty years.
• 28:28
  Unknown: Yeah. No. Thanks. I'll take it right now.
• 28:31
  I don't like selling gold.
• 28:34
  I won't mind selling it when the price goes up here. Hopefully, next month. Not next month. Month after next, July 4.
• 28:42
  Trump has been floating the idea that they're going to either put out fifty year bonds,
• 28:50
  treasury bonds that are backed by gold, or that they may manipulate
• 28:54
  monkey with the price of gold because if he rises, it raises, excuse me, wrong tense.
• 29:00
  If he raises it, then it will offset some of the
• 29:04
  40,000,000,000,000 in fraudulent debt we've got to deal with.
• 29:09
  Yeah.
• 29:10
  So can you imagine if we get on one of these big shows and expose this right here
• 29:15
  and people see that this whole thing is the fraud that it is? I I I
• 29:20
  don't know what would happen, Paul, but I'd sure like to see it happen so we could find out.
• 29:27
  Unknown: Well
• 29:27
  Roger. Roger. What I think is crazy Yeah.
• 29:31
  Hold on, Larry. Go ahead, Paul. What I think is crazy is people actually think that they owe the national debt. No. Mhmm. People don't owe the national debt because the people didn't rack it up. The people used
• 29:43
  a monetary system that was made available to them by the government. The government was the one that instituted
• 29:51
  a currency
• 29:53
  that had
• 29:54
  a debt attached to it,
• 29:57
  an interest attached to it. And the government is the ones that have been printing money hand over fist
• 30:05
  and spending it on all kinds of crap we never authorized them to do. As far as I'm concerned the congregant.
• 30:12
  Unknown: Well, I don't know. You I can take an opposite way of that, but go ahead.
• 30:16
  Unknown: As as I'm concerned,
• 30:18
  the government is who owes the debt
• 30:22
  Unknown: because they did
• 30:24
  Unknown: they they didn't manage the finances of the country judiciously.
• 30:30
  Unknown: Oh, they they did it exactly how they wanted it to end up.
• 30:34
  Instead of using the term, it's another one of these things on the words
• 30:38
  and how the concepts are created in our minds by using them.
• 30:43
  And Paul just said several times in what he just gave us, government, the government this, the government that.
• 30:50
  Well, John Benson would say they're
• 30:52
  government. We're the government. We are under a contract. It's called the constitution. We elect representatives
• 30:59
  to to look after our interests up there.
• 31:02
  They pass legislation,
• 31:04
  and then they hire
• 31:06
  employees to enforce it. They're the agents
• 31:10
  of government.
• 31:11
  So instead of saying the government,
• 31:14
  if you had just said that to the agents of government,
• 31:18
  then people would have a little bit different conceptual
• 31:21
  idea in their mind to what you were saying, wouldn't it?
• 31:27
  Yeah. They would have. So it's not the government because that's a big blob, and you can't do anything. Where do you go? Who do you talk to? When it's the agents of government,
• 31:36
  then you know who to go to talk to. You know who's responsible,
• 31:40
  and you know exactly what we're talking about. This is the
• 31:43
  way that we use words and have been indoctrinated
• 31:47
  or or conditioned, if you will, to use these words and the effect of this.
• 31:52
  Words you know, Rush Limbaugh made a whole career off words mean things.
• 31:57
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 31:58
  Words mean things.
• 32:00
  Unknown: I think we could just as easily call them the pirates of government because it could deal with that problem in their pockets. Well well, okay. Well, that'd be alright too. You're at least identifying them and setting them off. Now Larry was trying to say something. Larry, what did you have for us, my friend? Well, yeah, the the original reason why I I interrupted
• 32:20
  Unknown: you earlier was
• 32:22
  you were at the beginning of the show, you were touching on
• 32:25
  data centers,
• 32:27
  and there's there's two stories
• 32:29
  two recent stories that are out in the news,
• 32:32
  but you won't read about them in the mainstream media. But the first one, this was the first week of May,
• 32:39
  and it says that in Mason County, Kentucky,
• 32:42
  82 year old farmer Ida Huddleston
• 32:45
  and her daughter, Delsia Baer, turned down a $26,000,000
• 32:49
  offer from an unnamed
• 32:52
  artificial intelligence company for about half of their 1,200 acre farm.
• 32:57
  That's just amazing that they did well, they needed 600 acres to build this facility.
• 33:02
  So the reason she turned it down was her late husband built their house
• 33:07
  by hand,
• 33:08
  and she vowed to stay on the land she was born on. The family also cited concerns
• 33:14
  over grid strain,
• 33:15
  water contamination,
• 33:17
  and a desire to continue their generations old farming lifestyle.
• 33:21
  And then the second story is out of Pennsylvania in in April.
• 33:26
  It says in Silver Spring Township, Pennsylvania, 86 year old dairy farmer,
• 33:31
  Mervyn
• 33:32
  Rodebaugh,
• 33:33
  rejected a 15,000,000
• 33:35
  offer,
• 33:36
  which is the equivalent of $60,000
• 33:39
  per acre from developers to build a data center on his 261
• 33:44
  acre
• 33:45
  property.
• 33:47
  Radhaba,
• 33:47
  who has farmed land for over sixty years, wanted to preserve the natural beauty of the area and expressed a desire to prevent prevent his farms from being, well, destroyed
• 33:58
  by industrial
• 33:59
  development.
• 34:02
  Good for them. Those are huge data stacks.
• 34:05
  Unknown: I heard the fur I heard about the first one on Infowars or something. I believe that was covered, but I didn't know about the second one. Hopefully, there's more and more of those types of people all over the country.
• 34:16
  This, this status the center thing may turn on them. Okay? We'll see.
• 34:22
  But there's a real heightened awareness of it. There's five states have already put a moratorium on any more construction of them until some
• 34:30
  studies have been done,
• 34:32
  and, hopefully, that'll turn around. It's a it's an atrocious thing to me.
• 34:40
  Sorry. You know?
• 34:43
  I guess I'm just getting to be more and more of a Luddite, Paul. The the more some of this stuff goes forward, the more Luddite able I get, I think. Yeah. Well,
• 34:53
  Unknown: I resemble that remark.
• 34:54
  Unknown: Oh, okay. Okay.
• 34:56
  So here we are. We're about thirty something minutes into the show. Forty had just turned on, thirty four.
• 35:02
  And I hadn't even asked or said said there if there are any new people out there. If there are, we might have driven them off already.
• 35:09
  They came if they came. If they were there, they came to
• 35:14
  be presented with something about freedom and getting themselves
• 35:18
  unattached from this beast,
• 35:21
  and it is a beast, so I accurately
• 35:23
  label.
• 35:26
  And,
• 35:27
  if there's any of those folks, you you found the right place when we don't have
• 35:32
  new folks. We have to talk about other things or have dead air. We don't wanna have that.
• 35:37
  So if there's any new folks with questions or comments or anything, we'd love to hear from you. I'll always try and put this. Should've done it thirty minutes ago. But if you're out there this morning, we'd love to hear from you with your questions. If you'd like to you might like to ask about Ecuador or South America or
• 35:53
  anything else we'd like to meet you meet you. We have a proven track record. It is unblemished.
• 35:59
  Fifteen years of
• 36:01
  helping people become
• 36:03
  instructed on what has been done to them. This simple little word trick, speaking of words,
• 36:08
  that has wrapped them in voluntary servitude,
• 36:11
  and they tricked
• 36:13
  you into agreeing with it if that ain't the damnedest part of it.
• 36:17
  And, yeah, you did it. You answered the two questions, yes, and signed something. I didn't do it. You did it. You did it every time you ever ask.
• 36:26
  So now that you come to the realization,
• 36:28
  it's an illusion.
• 36:29
  Let's undo that.
• 36:30
  You can go back and say, I I don't wanna be that. I wanna be this over here, and they can't say anything about it. Not one thing can they say.
• 36:39
  Oh, they might try and bluff you a little busy.
• 36:42
  Well, Susie, how much do you really know about this? Are you just filing some paperwork, or do you do you really know?
• 36:50
  Well, they query Susie, and Susie answers back and says,
• 36:54
  yeah, man. This is my decision, not yours.
• 36:57
  Senator Patel's Law of Nations, whatever Susie writes back.
• 37:01
  And poof.
• 37:03
  Poof.
• 37:04
  Just like magic, their documents appear in the mailbox.
• 37:07
  See, it's amazing. It happens every time.
• 37:10
  So never had a blemish on this. Never had one case that I know of unless somebody in the audience has got a new one.
• 37:17
  And if you're new and listen, I I I put this anybody in the audience had any blowback from the federal government on going through this process?
• 37:25
  Please hit star six and come on and tell the the new initiate,
• 37:29
  they're the new listener,
• 37:30
  that, yeah,
• 37:32
  man. You're right. It's a scam. They came and took this and took that and ran me off and sent me off and
• 37:39
  well, you're not gonna hear that because none of that's ever happened.
• 37:44
  There is Or at least at least it hasn't been reported here. And, Paul, I will tell you,
• 37:50
  when somebody does have some sort of,
• 37:54
  altercation or action with the federal government,
• 37:58
  who do you think the first person they call is?
• 38:01
  Unknown: My guess is you'll hear about it. There is one good thing about the war though, you know, the the military unrest in around the world.
• 38:12
  Yes. There is one
• 38:14
  benefit.
• 38:16
  Somebody
• 38:17
  that we know
• 38:19
  just, sent off his passport application
• 38:23
  Yeah. And
• 38:24
  basically,
• 38:26
  got it within two weeks.
• 38:29
  Yeah. Doesn't have his card yet.
• 38:31
  But Yep. Got different stories. I mean, it's lickety split. So you think maybe that there aren't a whole lot of people that are that are getting
• 38:40
  passports so they can be world travelers
• 38:44
  right now?
• 38:45
  Unknown: You know, it's funny, Paul. I did hear years ago
• 38:50
  that
• 38:52
  The US is the smallest
• 38:54
  percentage of people in the population that have passports, 25%
• 39:01
  of any country in the world,
• 39:03
  actually.
• 39:04
  So I don't know if that's still saying or not. It's what I heard a while back.
• 39:08
  I don't know, but
• 39:11
  I can tell you that's the only place
• 39:14
  of any paperwork
• 39:16
  that I know of
• 39:18
  issued from any of the more than 300
• 39:21
  government agencies up there
• 39:24
  where they've got to tell you that you've got a choice.
• 39:30
  And they've gotta tell you because of the office of management and budget in Watergate.
• 39:35
  That's how far this goes back, Watergate in the seventies.
• 39:38
  The legislation that was passed after Watergate
• 39:41
  on transparency
• 39:42
  of government,
• 39:44
  and this was one of the things that any
• 39:47
  any,
• 39:48
  agency
• 39:49
  they have bureaucratic
• 39:50
  labels for this, Paul, of course,
• 39:54
  and it's called any agency that issues a information
• 39:58
  gathering
• 39:59
  request.
• 40:01
  That's bureaucratic ease
• 40:03
  for a paper where we're gonna ask you questions,
• 40:06
  an information gathering
• 40:08
  request.
• 40:09
  And any agency
• 40:11
  out of the more than 300 that issue a piece of paper that has that intention
• 40:16
  has to go through the office of management and budget
• 40:20
  and make sure that all of the questions are constitutional.
• 40:25
  And if they are, it's a very strict
• 40:28
  You should see the definition. I wish I could remember it.
• 40:32
  You should see the definition of a ten forty
• 40:35
  internally
• 40:37
  as to what that document is for.
• 40:40
  It it would it would shock you. I wish I could remember it. I just can't. K?
• 40:46
  Anyway, each one of those got a ID.
• 40:48
  They go through the document, and it's gotta have all the information that's constitutional.
• 40:53
  And that's why that passport
• 40:55
  has to
• 40:57
  show you
• 40:59
  you've got a choice.
• 41:01
  Now tens of millions of people have looked over it, read it,
• 41:05
  flew through it,
• 41:07
  never saw what was there. They didn't they don't know. They had a choice.
• 41:12
  All they wanted was a passport because they needed to go somewhere.
• 41:18
  And there it is right in the passport. If you know what you're looking for, it's right there.
• 41:25
  But if you don't know what you're looking for, it's so well hidden,
• 41:30
  you'll never find it.
• 41:31
  You'll never know what they're saying. Attach documentation
• 41:35
  for what?
• 41:36
  For what?
• 41:40
  I'm free. What do you mean, man?
• 41:43
  Come on.
• 41:47
  So, anyway, that's the scam, and that's how we found it.
• 41:52
  Bit of a little voice coming out of nowhere, so you need to get out. Is that coming into y'all?
• 41:57
  Anybody out there? You didn't you need to get out. Listen. If a voice comes to you and tells you you need to get out,
• 42:05
  listen to it.
• 42:08
  If it comes twice
• 42:10
  oh,
• 42:11
  if it comes twice,
• 42:13
  you better do more than listen to it. Paul?
• 42:16
  Unknown: Yeah. You better act. Okay.
• 42:20
  The AI overview of a Google search of OMB definition of IRS Form ten forty.
• 42:27
  IRS Form 10 is officially
• 42:33
  defined by the Office of Management and Budget under the Paperwork Reduction Act as The
• 42:39
  US individual income tax return. It is the standard information collection document used by residents
• 42:47
  to report annual earnings, claim deductions and credits and calculate tax liability or refunds.
• 42:54
  Because individual taxation
• 42:56
  involves many variations such as dependents,
• 42:59
  business income or investments, the OMB assigns
• 43:02
  an aggregate blanket clearance code to the entire
• 43:06
  ten forty family.
• 43:09
  Unknown: That wasn't what I was thinking of. There used to be a definition. I can still see the page in my mind. I just can't recall that definition.
• 43:16
  That wouldn't it was more than a definition or the description.
• 43:20
  Something about recapture property.
• 43:23
  Unknown: K? Well, I I don't see anything
• 43:26
  Unknown: about that. Yeah. So and like I said, that
• 43:28
  was you that 30
• 43:30
  ago, they may have changed it. But that's what it used to say, and pretty funny. I wish I could remember it exactly, and I just can't, but it was about recapturing
• 43:38
  property of some sort.
• 43:42
  Okay. So it's
• 43:44
  but,
• 43:45
  yeah, that's where we are. So if there's anybody new out there, we'd certainly love to talk to you, show you. Of course, we've got all that documentation
• 43:52
  on
• 43:53
  oh, between the matrixdocs.com
• 43:55
  and Joe Lustica's
• 43:56
  with all of his things. Joe's teaching a class to people too. He does charge you $50
• 44:02
  a month, I think.
• 44:04
  But,
• 44:07
  there there's some good instruction out there.
• 44:10
  Unknown: I mean, we just actually less than that.
• 44:13
  Unknown: I don't think it is 50 a month. It might be 50 a month. Well, that's what I heard thrown around on here the other day, but that's okay, Joe. Got two young children.
• 44:23
  You know? Hell, I don't grudge begrudge it. Joe has got a special talent for this stuff,
• 44:28
  for this legal stuff. He just some people have the gift and some people don't, and Joe's got it. Okay? And a nice guy too.
• 44:36
  Unknown: So Julie Julie is weighing in on what it what it costs.
• 44:41
  Unknown: Julie. There's a miss Jules. Yes. Good morning, dear.
• 44:44
  Unknown: Oh, it's Nat. It's actually Nancy.
• 44:47
  Unknown: Oh, Nancy.
• 44:49
  You two sound alike. Oh, no. Okay. They do kinda. Well, I was expecting to hear from Nancy, so I'm glad she's weighing in.
• 44:57
  How are you?
• 44:59
  Unknown: Well, I'm doing good. I'm two for two in terms of litigation wins on the debt collection stuff that, you know, I've learned from in Joe's Liberty
• 45:11
  Foundation.
• 45:12
  So it's
• 45:14
  there's a lot of stuff in his course work. I mean, it it covers a lot of stuff and I have I have only
• 45:23
  focused on a couple of things
• 45:26
  principally the because right now, I've had this
• 45:30
  some outstanding
• 45:33
  cases. But I'm two for two wins. Yesterday,
• 45:36
  the
• 45:37
  the
• 45:39
  trial that was scheduled, and I was prepared to
• 45:43
  be be cross examined and then cross examined. But then I arrived to find out that it the suit had been pulled, so it's a non suit. So they tucked their tail and ran.
• 45:55
  Unknown: And ran.
• 45:56
  They'll carry you right up to the finish line, though, won't they?
• 46:01
  Unknown: Well and so the it's the same I have another trial scheduled for next Monday,
• 46:05
  but it's the same
• 46:07
  debt collector, a different law firm, but they have not provide in that suit, they've not,
• 46:13
  complied and provided the bill of particulars ordered by the court. So they're already in default. And since they pulled
• 46:20
  this yesterday's case, I'm sure they will do so.
• 46:24
  They hadn't yet, but, I'm sure that they will. Either that will will be dismissed.
• 46:29
  Unknown: Gosh. Christian?
• 46:31
  Christian,
• 46:32
  you listen?
• 46:34
  Go ahead, Nance.
• 46:37
  Unknown: Oh, but so I'm I'm I'm claiming three for three wins. Yes. I'm listening.
• 46:44
  Unknown: Okay. Good. Go ahead, Nance.
• 46:47
  Unknown: Yeah. So there
• 46:49
  is good resources there. There's also a great community.
• 46:53
  I've
• 46:54
  had some assistance, some coaching from
• 46:57
  some some people inside
• 46:59
  there as well, some other members of the community.
• 47:03
  So
• 47:03
  and there's just you know, he he covers the national information. I've not gone through that, what he has there,
• 47:09
  because I'm already a national. But I will go through that information just to see
• 47:14
  what, you know, what additional information there may be there. But so it's a great resource.
• 47:21
  Unknown: Yeah. Joe's a great guy too.
• 47:23
  It'd
• 47:24
  fun to work with. Nancy,
• 47:26
  is your sissy and her hubby, are they down in Cuenca?
• 47:30
  Have you talked to them?
• 47:33
  Unknown: Yes. They are in Cuenca. And, actually, yesterday,
• 47:36
  you may have saw heard about the,
• 47:38
  plane that had to make an emergency landing.
• 47:42
  Unknown: Of course not.
• 47:43
  I don't tap in any local stuff. We're here at Quito or what? Or Cuenca. Well,
• 47:49
  Unknown: they were on it. So they were on their way back to Cuenca. Oh, god. Oh,
• 47:54
  Unknown: went to Quito. They were coming back to Quito. So
• 47:58
  are are they still in Cuenca? So.
• 48:01
  I'm not sure. You know? Just Yeah. You can't keep can't keep up with them.
• 48:07
  Unknown: Yeah. I have other priorities, and they're having fun. So
• 48:10
  Unknown: Are you answering?
• 48:11
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 48:13
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 48:15
  I I didn't wanna interrupt y'all and and if anybody knew wanted to but you know what? You hit on this.
• 48:21
  You know, I had this
• 48:23
  what Paul
• 48:26
  got for me was a rescind of the agreement
• 48:30
  that took that they took my,
• 48:33
  changed over all my accounts,
• 48:35
  yesterday,
• 48:37
  and I was wondering if there's anything
• 48:39
  okay. They took my
• 48:41
  they they for a continuance. I got the continuance on the on the, court case,
• 48:47
  for negotiations,
• 48:49
  till July
• 48:50
  26.
• 48:52
  So I was wondering if
• 48:53
  I just sit and wait and see what they say on the rescinding that we you were I think you were aware of what Paul did on the enquorum. I think y'all did the enquorum
• 49:03
  at the end.
• 49:07
  Unknown: Is it is your name Christian?
• 49:09
  Unknown: Yes. Yes.
• 49:12
  Unknown: Christian, I don't recall the details of your situation,
• 49:17
  so I I I I can't I don't feel like I can't It was maybe Julie and Larry. Maybe it was Julie and Larry.
• 49:24
  Well, yeah, I I don't remember the particulars. I'd be glad.
• 49:29
  I don't know if it's appropriate.
• 49:31
  Unknown: I have that resending
• 49:33
  into the to them
• 49:35
  and
• 49:37
  of rescinding,
• 49:38
  and and I'm going to make an agreement to pay them
• 49:42
  a $100
• 49:44
  a month
• 49:45
  until
• 49:46
  the ten months is up.
• 49:49
  And then
• 49:50
  they they're supposed to relinquish all the all everything. But I was I was wanting to say, is there anything I need to do? Just wait but see what they're gonna or do I need to put in something in the court and say I'm in still in negotiations
• 50:06
  with the other side or what?
• 50:10
  Unknown: Again,
• 50:11
  so, Roger, I Christian,
• 50:13
  I would love to have the conversation
• 50:16
  after the show about the particulars,
• 50:18
  or I can give you my contact
• 50:20
  information
• 50:21
  so you can reach out to me.
• 50:23
  I'm certainly not an expert.
• 50:24
  I can listen to what the details are and then give my feedback and then also direct you to people who are much more experienced in this
• 50:33
  area than I. But I'm I'm happy to be make myself available to you.
• 50:38
  Unknown: Okay. Thank you. I will check with you then after after the show.
• 50:43
  And I wanted to I wanted to I know maybe Larry is listening or or, Paul,
• 50:49
  I know is there. Maybe he could maybe he could,
• 50:52
  give me a little something before before I interrupt y'all show.
• 50:56
  Unknown: Yeah. I can I can email You
• 51:00
  Unknown: don't have to worry about it? What you've done is you have sent a letter to the collection agency. You have put the ball in their court.
• 51:06
  They need to decide to poop or get off the pot. Either they're going to accept
• 51:12
  your offer in compromise or they're gonna proceed with the court action. If they accept your offer in compromise,
• 51:20
  they agree to drop all
• 51:22
  court and collection activities immediately.
• 51:26
  And then after the tenth payment
• 51:28
  is made,
• 51:31
  they
• 51:32
  agree
• 51:33
  to
• 51:33
  mark your account paid as agreed.
• 51:37
  So the ball is in their court.
• 51:39
  You don't need to do anything with the courts, whatever. You already have the continuance to the end of or to
• 51:47
  later next So
• 51:48
  you don't have to worry about it.
• 51:51
  So Right.
• 51:52
  Unknown: I would Okay. Yeah. I would say echo reinforce what Paul's saying. You have,
• 51:59
  made an offer
• 52:00
  of repayment.
• 52:01
  The important thing is to
• 52:03
  have your documentation
• 52:05
  and staying in honor, and it you can just you know, if you're going it doesn't sound like you're disputing
• 52:12
  them, but it sounds like you're getting good advice from from Paul.
• 52:16
  The thing is that they didn't they didn't show up
• 52:20
  in my case,
• 52:22
  you know, they pulled their suit, and I was disputing.
• 52:26
  So
• 52:29
  but I think you have some good advice.
• 52:32
  Unknown: The letter he sent them
• 52:34
  is very simply, dear sir or madam, through my research as Social Security is my sole means of income,
• 52:40
  I understand that even in the event a judgment is awarded, it is unlikely to be collectible.
• 52:45
  I hereby rescind any at all agreement to
• 52:49
  permit automatic
• 52:50
  deductions or electronic payments
• 52:53
  from any of my bank accounts.
• 52:54
  I am expressly notifying you that the previously agreed to payment of $100
• 52:59
  on or about the 05/29/2026
• 53:02
  is no longer permitted.
• 53:04
  Please accept this as lawful notice and offer of settlement on account number blankety blank.
• 53:10
  I offer the sum of $1,000
• 53:12
  as full and complete settlement of this account paid in 10 monthly installments of $100
• 53:18
  Payments will be mailed on or about the fifth of each month until the final payment is made.
• 53:24
  Pursuant to this agreement,
• 53:26
  you also agree to immediately cancel any and all court or collection activities
• 53:31
  and agree to mark my credit record paid as agreed upon receipt of the final payment.
• 53:36
  I look forward to working with you to equitably settle this account and thank you for your cooperation. In honor and decorum, Christian.
• 53:46
  He has put the ball in their court.
• 53:49
  Unknown: Let me stop for a second. May I because anybody that if you
• 53:54
  are in this situation
• 53:56
  or in the future if you get in it, and hopefully you won't, but we're going to some pretty tough times it appears.
• 54:03
  This is right there on the transcript.
• 54:06
  You just go to this day or not. You can search some of them, I guess, Paul.
• 54:11
  Fine. And that letter will be perfectly reproduced
• 54:15
  by AI. Well, thank you, data centers. It's one of the good applications.
• 54:20
  Just wanna say that.
• 54:23
  Unknown: Thank you. That's a great that's a great letter
• 54:26
  that you have documentation.
• 54:28
  So you're you're protected
• 54:30
  should they keep on pursuing it to court, which they probably won't. And if my situation
• 54:35
  is any encouragement,
• 54:37
  when you stand up to them and they can't defend their position in court, they will pull their suit. Yes.
• 54:44
  Unknown: Also, we documentation.
• 54:47
  Did you consult the Federal Fair Debt Collection Act on anything, or does Joe
• 54:52
  do that and give you any tips from there?
• 54:58
  Unknown: I did not consult the Fair Debt Collection
• 55:01
  Act.
• 55:02
  I heard Samuel mention that, but I basically
• 55:07
  I took I watched a number of his videos, and he also
• 55:10
  shared a handwritten letter that he that Joe wrote to
• 55:16
  debt collector's
• 55:18
  letter he received.
• 55:20
  And
• 55:21
  that worked
• 55:24
  amazingly well last November, day before trial date when they pulled the suit just a day after
• 55:30
  I hand delivered that.
• 55:32
  And the current one
• 55:36
  that that just got pulled,
• 55:39
  I've used a version of other communication that Joe has helped someone else write. But,
• 55:46
  basically, you what I've learned is
• 55:48
  looking at
• 55:50
  what they provide in terms of evidence that they have a claim against you really can't stand because they're No. It can. It's flimsy. Is it I believe the term is holder in due course.
• 56:03
  Unknown: Real party and interest. Might be wrong. Might be wrong. Real party and interest.
• 56:08
  Okay. A real party and interest. Alright.
• 56:11
  So, what I wanted to say for the audience, if any of you, do have a debt problem or if you know anybody that does, and they sell this debt like Chase Manhattan did with Christians. They'll sell it to these I don't know how they did through middlemen or whatever. Anyway, these guys, debt collectors, end up with it at pennies on the dollar, and then they wanna come and squeeze you. Anything they get over what they paid, they're they're on the good side.
• 56:36
  So it got to be so bad with that industry
• 56:40
  that congress passed the Fair Debt Collection Act. I don't know where it is exactly
• 56:45
  does
• 56:46
  statute wise, but it's in there.
• 56:49
  And if you go read about it, like, the debt collectors operate, you know, they bug you?
• 56:54
  They'll start calling you and they talk to your neighbors and all that crap.
• 56:59
  Well, all you have to do is fax
• 57:02
  them a say, I'm invoking the fair debt collection acts on contact,
• 57:07
  and they can't contact you or your neighbors or anybody else
• 57:12
  except by mail to you.
• 57:15
  So that one thing with the facts can alleviate a lot of the hassles those people are gonna give you. Just go look at it. You can probably find a summary on it. There's some advantageous
• 57:25
  things to some people in there at the, you can achieve with the facts. Okay?
• 57:34
  Thank you. That's worth.
• 57:36
  Unknown: That's worth a whole lot.
• 57:39
  Unknown: Yeah. Just that one. And there's other things in there too. And now, like, we need to let the lady talk right here. Yes, ma'am.
• 57:47
  Unknown: Well, just one of the key things
• 57:49
  that I've learned just dealing with this particular situation
• 57:53
  is
• 57:54
  that
• 57:56
  the original creditor
• 57:59
  does not appear to certify
• 58:01
  and authenticate
• 58:03
  the account
• 58:05
  when they pass it on.
• 58:07
  So anyone who buys that
• 58:10
  debt
• 58:11
  doesn't have authentication
• 58:13
  of its validity, even if they have, quote unquote, a bill of sale. And so that's where the whole house of cards is
• 58:21
  collapses.
• 58:22
  And they can't produce it. They don't have it because it was never
• 58:26
  and maybe never existed,
• 58:29
  or it was never done. So
• 58:31
  that's pretty powerful.
• 58:33
  Unknown: That's pretty powerful. But, generally, with credit card debt, we're talking about generally, I think. Right?
• 58:40
  Unknown: Lot of lot of credit. Yes.
• 58:42
  Yes. It can be medical
• 58:46
  too. It can be medical or other things. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha.
• 58:52
  Unknown: Christian, let me let me throw this in there. Let me throw this in here really quick so we can get it as close in the transcript as
• 58:59
  as the original letter.
• 59:01
  The only thing that is not in there that I perhaps should have put in there was a time for them to respond
• 59:09
  by mail
• 59:10
  confirming their agreement,
• 59:12
  their acceptance of the agreement.
• 59:14
  So if you're in a similar situation,
• 59:18
  put that in as well.
• 59:20
  Unknown: Mhmm. If not receive if not if if I haven't received anything from you by the thirtieth of the month, it's gonna consider to be accepted. Something to that effect.
• 59:30
  Unknown: Okay.
• 59:34
  Unknown: Alright. But Yep. Yep. I should have put it in there. I'm sorry. I screwed this up. Alright, Paul. Nobody's gonna hold you
• 59:42
  Unknown: Roger. Responsible.
• 59:44
  Yes. Did Christian, did you have something to say before we talk to Larry here?
• 59:49
  Unknown: No. That's good. He probably got something to say about this too. Okay. Well, we'll find out. Larry?
• 59:56
  Unknown: Yeah. What state do you live in, Christian?
• 59:59
  Texas.
• 1:00:01
  So
• 1:00:02
  the you did receive a summons for a lawsuit. Correct?
• 1:00:07
  Right.
• 1:00:09
  Did they include a claim of exemption
• 1:00:12
  in the,
• 1:00:13
  in the court documents?
• 1:00:17
  Unknown: I didn't I didn't see anything like that.
• 1:00:20
  Unknown: A claim of the same Christian would know a claim of exemption if it came up and bit him on the ankle. Can you give us a little more, Larry?
• 1:00:30
  Unknown: Yeah. So every state has their version of a claim of exemption form,
• 1:00:36
  and it usually lists about 12 different areas that you could be exempt.
• 1:00:42
  And usually, the last line will say other,
• 1:00:46
  and you could just put in there Social Security income,
• 1:00:49
  and then you could write a brief explanation that this is your sole
• 1:00:53
  form of income.
• 1:00:55
  And so, basically, what you're doing is you're putting up what's known as an affirmative defense.
• 1:01:01
  And what that means is even if, like, you what you'd be saying to the opposing counsel,
• 1:01:07
  even if what you are saying is true, I still win the lawsuit because
• 1:01:13
  and and then you would show them your claim of exemption form because Social Security
• 1:01:18
  wages
• 1:01:19
  or income is exempt from garnishment
• 1:01:22
  or seizure.
• 1:01:23
  And so
• 1:01:25
  you might wanna approach it that way. I'm surprised they didn't include
• 1:01:30
  some type of claim of exemption form because they're supposed to do that
• 1:01:35
  when they
• 1:01:36
  when they file a lawsuit against you because you could file that into the court,
• 1:01:41
  and the judge will take a look at it. And you could even check mark that you don't require a hearing.
• 1:01:47
  You know?
• 1:01:48
  And Okay. Usually, that's enough to make them go away.
• 1:01:53
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:01:54
  Unknown: Thank you. So or it's here in Florida.
• 1:01:57
  Unknown: I I had to fill one out because
• 1:02:00
  under the Florida statutes,
• 1:02:02
  if you if you
• 1:02:04
  are the head of your family's wages, it's called head of family wages,
• 1:02:10
  then your income is exempt.
• 1:02:13
  If you're caring for a dependent
• 1:02:16
  and you provide from you provide more than half
• 1:02:20
  of of their expenses,
• 1:02:22
  then then your income is is exempt.
• 1:02:25
  And another thing in Florida, and this is probably true in most states,
• 1:02:30
  is
• 1:02:32
  well, not every state has this exemption,
• 1:02:34
  but it's called tenancy by the entirety.
• 1:02:37
  And what that means is if you have property that's jointly owned
• 1:02:42
  with your spouse,
• 1:02:45
  the debt collector or the bank cannot seize that property. They cannot garnish anything.
• 1:02:51
  They well, I shouldn't say garnish. They cannot seize that property. So
• 1:02:56
  say you have a bank account, and it's and it's in both it's in both names
• 1:03:01
  of both spouses.
• 1:03:04
  And even having that word and as a connector
• 1:03:08
  is is it makes it more
• 1:03:10
  effective.
• 1:03:11
  For example, if you have a car title
• 1:03:14
  and the title is in,
• 1:03:15
  you know, Christian and
• 1:03:18
  and then if you're married, your spouse's
• 1:03:20
  name, then that's tenancy by the entirety. So a debt collector cannot seize that property,
• 1:03:27
  with the exception if you're not making payments on it, of course. Like, if you
• 1:03:31
  default and you're making payments on it. I'm talking about if you clearly own it
• 1:03:37
  Yeah. Outright and let's just say let's
• 1:03:40
  just say it's worth,
• 1:03:42
  you know, $10,000
• 1:03:44
  and a debt collector comes along and and is trying to get
• 1:03:48
  trying to collect on a debt that's $5,000,
• 1:03:51
  then they could actually take that car,
• 1:03:54
  seize it if it's just if it's just in your name,
• 1:03:57
  and then they could sell it at an option to get their money.
• 1:04:00
  And I'm not sure how how it works as far as giving you the difference back.
• 1:04:05
  But in Florida,
• 1:04:07
  they they I think it was last year they raised the amount that a vehicle value is is
• 1:04:14
  as far as what a debt collector can take, it went from I think it was, like, $22,500.
• 1:04:22
  They if the car's market value was $2,500,
• 1:04:25
  the debt collector could not seize that vehicle.
• 1:04:28
  So they just recently raised it to $5,000.
• 1:04:32
  However, like I said, if you have if you have joint ownership in the property
• 1:04:38
  with two names on the title or on the bank account, they can't take it.
• 1:04:43
  So the judgment creditor against one spouse
• 1:04:47
  cannot take the property if it's titled in in in both names.
• 1:04:51
  Unknown: And so Wouldn't they be called tenants in common?
• 1:04:57
  Unknown: Well, tenants in common doesn't have the same protections as tenancy by the entirety.
• 1:05:02
  Okay. They're they're they could take the property if it's tenancy
• 1:05:07
  in commons,
• 1:05:08
  but that's that's another that's another issue. The whole point of all this is there is a
• 1:05:14
  should have a claim of exemption form,
• 1:05:17
  and all you gotta do you you probably go on on your state's website
• 1:05:23
  and look for it. Just, you know, do a Google search, Texas claim of exemption form, and then you look for the line on there. You know, the it's usually the last line where you could put in other,
• 1:05:34
  and then you could put in it might even have a line for Social Security. So you would just check mark that box, and then you have to go get that form notarized.
• 1:05:43
  And and then you file that into the the court docket, and you could just write up a
• 1:05:48
  little brief,
• 1:05:50
  you know, like,
• 1:05:52
  cover let like a cover sheet,
• 1:05:54
  like a cover document
• 1:05:57
  that you're like a notice of filing.
• 1:06:00
  And you could matter of fact, you can entitle it that, the notice of filing,
• 1:06:05
  and then you could write on here that you are,
• 1:06:07
  you know, appearing
• 1:06:09
  to
• 1:06:11
  file this claim of exemption form into the court docket
• 1:06:15
  and and then get that in there, and they'd review that. And it'd probably go away at that point.
• 1:06:21
  Unknown: Well, he's already past that point is the problem, but that might be information
• 1:06:26
  good for other people that get in this situation where they get a summons delivered.
• 1:06:31
  Christian, who delivered the summons? Who who served you? Sheriff's department?
• 1:06:38
  Unknown: Yeah. It was Scott some some guy from the sheriff's department. Yeah. Because they're in Utah.
• 1:06:45
  Unknown: That doesn't matter. They paid your local share yes. But they paid your local sheriff's department to serve the summons twenty five, fifty bucks or something.
• 1:06:55
  You may you could also call
• 1:06:58
  if you can't remember if you got one of these
• 1:07:01
  with the summons,
• 1:07:03
  you could probably call the sheriff's department and ask them if they included one when they served you. Just a suggestion.
• 1:07:10
  But I think he's already passed that, Lair. We've got an offer in their court waiting to see how they respond.
• 1:07:18
  So that's the course Christian chose to take.
• 1:07:22
  But thanks for all that information. You know, I think that really it appears
• 1:07:26
  the way the economy's going and with this stupid war situation,
• 1:07:30
  and Trump doesn't seem to give a shit about Americans. Said I don't care about Americans. I care whether we can get the nuclear
• 1:07:38
  material out of Iran.
• 1:07:40
  So
• 1:07:41
  And Regardless And that's we'll see, you know yeah. And they're they're pumping.
• 1:07:45
  They're
• 1:07:46
  you're just gonna see inflation. I think you're already seeing it in gas and food. I don't think it's gonna let up. And,
• 1:07:54
  so other people very well may be, caught in this little debt trap too. Roger. Yes.
• 1:08:01
  Unknown: So I I got the form pulled up pulled up in text in Texas. It's called the protected property
• 1:08:07
  claim form,
• 1:08:08
  and
• 1:08:09
  I've I left out some information. So you usually get these forms sent to you by the debt collector after the judgment.
• 1:08:17
  And so
• 1:08:18
  if you just wanted to just not show up at the court hearing and just let things go right through
• 1:08:25
  and they get a judgment, then they have to send you this this form. It's usually required by statute in virtually every state of the union.
• 1:08:34
  And in Florida, it's called a claim of exemption form. In Texas, it's called the protected property claim form.
• 1:08:40
  And, so, basically, you just fill that out, get it notarized, and then you would file it into the court.
• 1:08:46
  And, that should pretty much take care of them trying to collect on the judgment.
• 1:08:52
  Does that make Yes.
• 1:08:54
  Unknown: It's only,
• 1:08:56
  yeah, it's a pretty low amount. I don't think they'd even try and collect. That's why they're trying to get him to do it voluntarily here.
• 1:09:03
  Unknown: So if you wanted to just just totally walk away from this, not even show up in court, you can do that, and they'll get a judgment.
• 1:09:10
  They might get a judgment if you don't show up, if you don't appear.
• 1:09:15
  And then they are they are obligated
• 1:09:17
  by law to send you that form,
• 1:09:20
  and then you just fill it out. This is Social Security income. It's protected from from
• 1:09:25
  seizure, and and you get it notarized. You file it into the court, and and there's nothing they could do about it because you're pretty much judgment proof.
• 1:09:33
  Unknown: Yeah. If they're gonna go along and find the next the next low hanging fruit that they can get, Christian, you know, leave poor old Christian there on the side of the road.
• 1:09:43
  Yes, Nancy?
• 1:09:45
  Unknown: Just one other thing for Christian that you can call
• 1:09:48
  the court's office, the court office, and ask the clerk the morning of your trial
• 1:09:55
  or day before morning of and see if the the suit has been pulled.
• 1:10:00
  Unknown: Is still in the docket?
• 1:10:03
  Unknown: Right. You find out if it's still on the docket.
• 1:10:06
  Unknown: Yep. Okay.
• 1:10:08
  Unknown: Yeah. And then how how far how
• 1:10:11
  far in advance are the court date?
• 1:10:15
  Unknown: Well, I don't know. You can The day before or the morning of.
• 1:10:20
  Unknown: Yeah. The day before the morning of.
• 1:10:23
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:10:26
  Unknown: Mean, it could cost
• 1:10:29
  Unknown: Seems to me like what Paul has has
• 1:10:31
  gotten used in will probably take care of it. I'll be surprised if it doesn't. Put it that way.
• 1:10:38
  So
• 1:10:39
  it gets Yeah. I think I'm gonna Bear me out. You you had never been through this situation before, have you?
• 1:10:47
  Unknown: No. I've lost I've lost about three houses and yeah.
• 1:10:52
  But Okay.
• 1:10:53
  Unknown: So you come on. That's what's got me.
• 1:10:56
  Unknown: Go ahead. Okay. Well, I don't think they can take your house, but the so you come on here with this problem and get
• 1:11:02
  a whole bunch of different angles of suggestions that you can follow.
• 1:11:07
  And it gets to the point where it makes it almost more confusing than it was when you didn't know any of them. You know? So I understand where y'all are and and taking Paul's initiative here. I think that'll take care of it. So we'll see. And and Well, that's like y'all are the power y'all are the power team, and I thank y'all so much. Well, it's a hell of a it's a hell of a brain trust we've, assembled here of people that like Larry.
• 1:11:33
  You can see he's very,
• 1:11:35
  adaptive to the law. He likes it. He studies it. He's been dealing with it. And,
• 1:11:40
  the
• 1:11:41
  people, if you're new here and you're not at that stage yet, let me tell you what, it really benefits your life to learn about the law. Is it would you agree with that, Larry? It just helps you out in all kinds of other situations
• 1:11:53
  where you might never think it would. You know? I I tell you where it helped me out was when I got in Argentina in that accident down there.
• 1:12:01
  Holy smokes. Was it a was it a godsend to know procedure?
• 1:12:05
  And even though I didn't understand their variety,
• 1:12:08
  I understood legal procedure. So and they have to adhere to that. And, even my little attorney down there,
• 1:12:16
  when I finally got got one that I was gonna work with, he spoke English. His daddy just was a sitting judge. He couldn't wait to retire.
• 1:12:24
  But, anyway, Yvonne and I'd have these long discussions, and Yvonne goes, man, you know a lot about the law. I've had two two attorneys down here tell me that.
• 1:12:33
  So, it's just knowledge that can benefit you. It doesn't hurt you. K?
• 1:12:40
  It strengthens you. It helps empower you, you know, all that.
• 1:12:44
  And
• 1:12:45
  Unknown: you'll If it don't kill you.
• 1:12:48
  Unknown: Well, it makes you stronger, and you how many you'll be amazed, you know, the many places you can apply that knowledge and understanding because it's very logical.
• 1:12:56
  The law is very logical, I find. You know? I used to I did a whole thing called in fact, I call it the science of law.
• 1:13:04
  And people go, oh, law, it's just a bunch of mumbly, gobbly goopy. No. Yeah. I can understand why you say that.
• 1:13:11
  Secondly,
• 1:13:11
  you you got these situations where a whole lot of value or lives or whatever are depending on this discussion that you're having with an adversary,
• 1:13:23
  and you have to know exactly what every word means.
• 1:13:27
  Just like in in science, you gotta know about biology and this and what molecules are here. You gotta know that about law too, and that's why the definitions
• 1:13:36
  are so critically important.
• 1:13:39
  Just interesting things I've learned along the way.
• 1:13:44
  So anybody got something to add? Yeah.
• 1:13:46
  Yes. Larry, go. This is Larry. Hold on. Larry.
• 1:13:51
  Unknown: And sketch. Yeah. So,
• 1:13:53
  Unknown: you don't have sketch all this. Do you own your home?
• 1:13:56
  Do you own your home, Christian?
• 1:13:58
  Unknown: Yes.
• 1:13:59
  Unknown: Yeah. So you don't have to worry about that. Credit card debt collector cannot legally
• 1:14:04
  attach a valid lien to your primary residence because of home state.
• 1:14:10
  And so Texas
• 1:14:11
  offers some of the strongest homestead protections in the country under article
• 1:14:15
  16 section 50 of the Texas constitution,
• 1:14:18
  if you wanna look that up. And Article
• 1:14:22
  Article
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  Unknown: article
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  Unknown: section 50. And then
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  there is one loophole
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  that says
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  your home can only be seized
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  or foreclosed on or forced into a sale for
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  very specific types of debt. And that is if your home is your if you have a primary mortgage on your home,
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  if there's a home equity loan,
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  if there's property taxes or IRS tax liens,
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  and then there's a mechanics lien, if that that could be
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  that could be something to consider.
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  But Alright. There's no way that you can take your home.
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  Unknown: Yeah. I have property tax. That's all. Everything is,
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  everything is clear as I purchase
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  this by cash because
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  and that's why I'm so,
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  strong on this because I've lost so so much in my life. You know? Well, you know, there's no reason to honor for a 2,800
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  Unknown: for a $2,800
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  credit card debt. That ain't happening. So rest rest your weary Yeah. I know you're,
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  Unknown: Christian, I know you're very,
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  I know you're following
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  it seems like you're following, Paul's suggestion, but if I was in your shoes, I would just walk away from it. I might I might not even show up in court. Let them get the judgment or just write a letter to them that I'm not dealing with this anymore.
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  You know, you could go about your business. And and if you get a judgment or whatever,
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  that's fine because you're not gonna be able to collect on it. And, they they didn't loan you any money. This is a third party debt collector that bought your debt, so you have no obligation to them.
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  Now the only downfall I mean, if you wanna follow Paul's
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  suggestion,
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  you know, you're gonna have
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  potential
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  bad credit
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  because of this judgment.
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  And so if you wanted to I'm about not bad credit at all. Well, I'm just saying if you wanted to go out and get a small loan for something, maybe a car or or something, they were they're gonna look at that on your credit report. I mean, it could potentially show up.
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  I think in Florida, they're not allowed to put judgments on your credit reports anymore, but every state is different. So the in Texas, that judgment might show up.
• 1:16:44
  Might show that, you know, you defaulted on a credit card debt. And so if you're trying to get a $3,000 loan on a used car or whatever,
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  they they might come back and say, well, we're not gonna we're not gonna issue you a loan because you don't have good credit. You defaulted on a credit card debt, etcetera.
• 1:17:01
  So other than that, I mean, I see no reason why you shouldn't walk away from this. And
• 1:17:06
  Unknown: then a very short time down the road, you'll get an invitation for credit card from the same damn bank in the mail.
• 1:17:13
  Unknown: Yeah. Larry,
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  way the letter was written the way the letter was written was rescinding
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  agreement
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  to
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  payment program on their terms,
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  which they're going to want the whole 2,828
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  payments of $100 It's
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  putting him in control of what the offer in compromise is
• 1:17:41
  and also telling them in order to agree to that they have to stop
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  any and all collection and court activities.
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  That makes the judgment goes away,
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  and even if they have already put something on his credit report that is negative,
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  they have to mark that account paid as agreed.
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  Not settlement
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  received on account,
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  not
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  charged off,
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  nothing. Paid as agreed.
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  So nobody will know that he offered them less.
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  That is why it was written that way.
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  Anyway, I yield.
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  Unknown: You know, y'all mentioned okay. That's good, Paul. I I mean, I'm taking up jealous whole time, But I was saying that that's that's what they did to a friend of mine fighting for a land patent for thirteen years.
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  They started going to her her neighbors,
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  and they started telling them,
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  your your neighbor hasn't paid their taxes.
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  And and, of course, she wasn't paying her taxes. She was fighting for her land by a
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  common law. And and
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  So so
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  that's what they did. They went to the neighbor, started defaming
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  her.
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  Unknown: That's a hard path to go down. Some people really want to go down the title.
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  I guess I pronounced it right, Murr. Title
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  path.
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  I've seen I know people. I've met people that accomplished it, but only a few and most of the people here on the call, like Samuel,
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  they've been trying to get it done for over ten years. I don't think it's done yet. So
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  I don't know what to tell you about that path. Hell, I don't wanna own any land. So, anyway, it's not personal. It's not a promotion.
• 1:19:26
  Unknown: But if it's a venture for a Yeah.
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  Unknown: Oh, I'm sure it's compromised everything. So,
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  anyway, if you do well, here's the other side of that. I understand fighting it and the principle of it, of course.
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  But if you do, I don't know how much your
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  property tax is. That's a scam they've been pulling last couple of years of jacking it up.
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  But even if you get out of it, still, you need to go to places like the fire department
• 1:19:53
  and stroke them a check.
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  Because if your house comes on fire, you want their protection. And if you're off the property rolls, they might not protect you, and we've got an example of that that I know is real, and that happened.
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  The the cabin's on fire. The road is adjacent to the cabin right there. The property's off the property rolls. Fire department comes up. They come down the hill, say, we can't come on your property. You're not on the property rolls.
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  So the cabin burned down. Okay.
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  If you do do this and accomplish it, go to people like the fire department and say, I'm off the property rules. I sure as hell want your support, and I wanna support you. And so I'm gonna stroke you a check every year.
• 1:20:40
  K? So realize
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  this number. Okay. People think property taxes
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  are like income tax. They don't know the differences and differentiations
• 1:20:52
  on all these different types of taxes. That's a local tax, your property tax.
• 1:20:57
  You voted on it. They run these things on local voting
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  referendums.
• 1:21:02
  This is why I say, you need to vote locally. You don't have to vote for president, vice president, if you don't want to, but those things like that affect you.
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  And that's how they pass them in local elections.
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  And you vote on it as a referendum. You're gonna have a new bond issue for a new school or whatever, and you vote on it. Well, that's your responsibility
• 1:21:23
  of going back and paying that.
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  But that that's another reason, as I was saying, all politics is local.
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  I suggest you vote locally. You call me funny names or whatever, but this is your duty. That's where you live. These are the people you live with, and, you can affect that.
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  So that's why I say that. K.
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  Property tax is different. It's just different.
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  Unknown: Okay. Thank you. Y'all y'all have given me a whole lot of time. I I thank y'all so much to ever everyone.
• 1:22:00
  Unknown: Okay. Well, let's see who else we can give a lot of time to around here.
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  Who else would like to say something, chime in, whatever, please?
• 1:22:09
  Yes. You were waiting. I'm sorry. How could I No worries.
• 1:22:13
  Unknown: I understand. No worries. You get sidetracked, ED. No worries.
• 1:22:17
  So, Christian,
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  I think it'd be wise, you know,
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  the corruption. You mentioned your
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  friend,
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  with the,
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  land patent.
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  You should this is a suggestion. You should record
• 1:22:31
  all your interactions
• 1:22:32
  with any public official and get it on tape.
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  Because if you call,
• 1:22:38
  they can lie to you at the courthouse.
• 1:22:41
  So
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  I suggest you record any
• 1:22:45
  any any interaction you have with the public officials. Okay. That way you have a a record.
• 1:22:53
  Unknown: Okay. I see the place. This is where affidavits
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  come in.
• 1:22:58
  Record it? Yeah. You could do it. And she does she does affidavits ever since, yeah, thirteen years. Every time every time something happens, this happened on this date, and I contacted so and so, and this is what he told me and
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  Go get it notarized.
• 1:23:15
  Put it in a file. I've I've
• 1:23:17
  Unknown: found that the little towns in Texas are run like thiefdoms,
• 1:23:22
  Unknown: so you have to be very careful. I yield. I'm sure. Okay. Well, how else would you expect them to be run? Bunch of damn cow diz is few people, cows, and rattlesnakes,
• 1:23:32
  and horny frogs and stuff. Horned frogs. You got a horn frogs, Christian, still?
• 1:23:38
  Got a lot of horny frogs. Yeah. You turn them over and pet their belly, and they just are sweet, sweetest little things.
• 1:23:46
  Yeah.
• 1:23:48
  That's about all they got to feed them over out there.
• 1:23:51
  Who else got something else today on Wednesday?
• 1:23:55
  Day before Paul's double duty day.
• 1:23:59
  The world's going nuts, man. I mean,
• 1:24:02
  I've still been able to get there there's so much going on. We don't know. Evidently, everything with the war in Iran depends on whether Israel's gonna okay it or not. That's the extent of the control they've got over the country. And how'd they do it? Well, they got control of the monetary supply, and then they bankrupted it, and they switched the systems
• 1:24:21
  where they're in total perpetual control.
• 1:24:24
  Except
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  except
• 1:24:26
  when somebody figures out how to do it in round around it and files a little paperwork, and then they don't know what to do.
• 1:24:34
  Do you understand that? They don't know what to do about us.
• 1:24:38
  They're they they've they've hidden it real well, and they've
• 1:24:43
  brain brainwashed the rest of the public pretty much, and they know
• 1:24:47
  we've been around for a while, and they didn't really grow. And although they know they're getting a bunch of those white piece of paper and passport applications.
• 1:24:56
  So they know it's growing. That is why I believe
• 1:25:00
  what was it? Two years ago, Paul, when they passport office called Jerry
• 1:25:06
  for his wife's application,
• 1:25:08
  and the guy said his name was Hilton. Ago. It just went Hilton. Know what he knew. Is my name? That's exactly right. Okay. Well, what's the next step in my administrative appeal? Well, I'm I'm the appeal officer.
• 1:25:21
  Well, that's total bullshit.
• 1:25:24
  They never would send the head of appeals to call some guy and ask him questions.
• 1:25:30
  That's bullshit.
• 1:25:31
  They wanted to know how much he knew.
• 1:25:35
  They have to have a gauge
• 1:25:37
  on how many of these things they're getting
• 1:25:40
  are from people that do know what they're doing or people from Anna Von Wright's, by the way, where she been lately,
• 1:25:48
  and the late David Strait and the other guys that take these other approaches.
• 1:25:53
  That's what they wanna know. Is this just a paper thing, or is this real people understand?
• 1:26:01
  That stress
• 1:26:02
  we stress
• 1:26:04
  around here.
• 1:26:06
  If you really wanna be free, you gotta learn the information.
• 1:26:10
  I'm sorry.
• 1:26:12
  I I know you want it to be instant and easy.
• 1:26:15
  Well, it it is instant, but it ain't always easy. K? And the easy part is what you're gonna have to pay for your freedom, and that is learning the information,
• 1:26:25
  getting your brain to operate with the synapses,
• 1:26:28
  firing again,
• 1:26:30
  and bring yourself to a
• 1:26:33
  living free individual
• 1:26:36
  that isn't still in an enigma
• 1:26:39
  of an illusion.
• 1:26:41
  Yes. Who said Roger right there? Is that you, Samuel?
• 1:26:44
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:26:46
  Hi, Roger. I Hey, Samuel. I know you're a fan of Nolo Press, and I
• 1:26:52
  think because Chris is so far along the process, so
• 1:26:57
  Paul's
• 1:26:59
  approach is probably best at this point. But if people wanna stop this stuff
• 1:27:03
  before court, there's that Nolo Press book I
• 1:27:07
  I suggested that gives you the letters and the forms and stuff to
• 1:27:13
  put an end to this because once they sell that debt, you've
• 1:27:17
  got to sort of agree to it before it becomes a reality.
• 1:27:20
  They have really no no grounds to stand on, and you could stop that in with these letters.
• 1:27:25
  Unknown: I think Nolo Press is part of the University of California Berkeley.
• 1:27:31
  K? I think it is. For the audience
• 1:27:34
  that that don't know the n o l o, Nolo.
• 1:27:38
  They've been around for a long time. As long as I've been in this, they were already established, so they've been doing this for decades
• 1:27:44
  and publishing self help law books.
• 1:27:47
  Do your own divorce. Do your own bankruptcy.
• 1:27:50
  We used
• 1:27:51
  their legal research book
• 1:27:54
  when I went to paralegal school. That's the book on legal research we used was no low press.
• 1:28:01
  And it's big eight and a half by 11 book.
• 1:28:04
  And when you open up the first page of it, the whole first blank page,
• 1:28:09
  Samuel,
• 1:28:10
  that was where the when I use a word, Humpty Dumpty said in a rather scornful tone, that dialogue is the entire first page of the Nolo Press' legal research book. So they're oriented in the right way. Their books are inexpensive.
• 1:28:27
  I've never heard anybody do anything but say nice things about them, and that's a good resource
• 1:28:33
  for how to do whatever you wanna do. They might not have a look for it, but you ought to go check anyway.
• 1:28:40
  Good resource.
• 1:28:41
  Unknown: Yeah. The the the book I recommend was solve your money troubles, and it's written by two women who are attorneys in the bankruptcy and foreclosure
• 1:28:50
  field.
• 1:28:52
  And
• 1:28:53
  it's the in its twentieth edition.
• 1:28:55
  Get that one because that way it's up to date with the law.
• 1:28:59
  Yeah. But yeah. The Twentieth edition. They're also big they're
• 1:29:03
  they're also big advocates of saying that, like, if you've got children
• 1:29:08
  that you know are being strangled by their
• 1:29:12
  debts from
• 1:29:13
  going to school,
• 1:29:15
  they have a whole system of challenging that in the book as well.
• 1:29:20
  Just fixing all
• 1:29:23
  Unknown: yeah. So You know what student loans are, Samuel? Do you know what they are?
• 1:29:30
  I guess that's an hope too. Got more people in
• 1:29:33
  Unknown: debt than anybody in this country.
• 1:29:36
  Unknown: It's the biggest
• 1:29:37
  asset
• 1:29:38
  on the federal government's balance sheet,
• 1:29:41
  student loan debts.
• 1:29:44
  Yep.
• 1:29:47
  Asset
• 1:29:49
  being the keyword.
• 1:29:53
  Coming So no low praise. Good place to check-in. There's a comment. Somebody coming in. Hello?
• 1:30:01
  Unknown: Hello, Roger. It's Shane. Yes. It is.
• 1:30:04
  Unknown: Oh my goodness gracious.
• 1:30:06
  Yes. They're out there by you,
• 1:30:08
  isn't it?
• 1:30:10
  Unknown: Yes. It's right across the bay.
• 1:30:13
  No Lopez is
• 1:30:15
  Free. You know? And also it's very
• 1:30:18
  Unknown: Do they have a Shane, do they have a bookstore out there? Do they have a bookstore you can go into? You just have to order offline.
• 1:30:25
  Unknown: Do you know? I believe I believe there was one, but I'm not sure if they have one today.
• 1:30:32
  But, yeah, it's across the bay, so I have not Yeah. Oh, it's okay. You know, over there. Last
• 1:30:39
  within the last, what, twenty years.
• 1:30:42
  But, yeah, I went to, to bookstore.
• 1:30:45
  It was a bookstore within, like, a coffee shop
• 1:30:49
  Unknown: Yeah. Back then. And yeah. Uh-huh.
• 1:30:51
  Unknown: Well, now it's online. It's accessible to anybody. I think their books are inexpensive,
• 1:30:56
  and they're very good and
• 1:30:58
  a highly recommended source. Thank you, Shane.
• 1:31:03
  Unknown: Who else is this? By what author?
• 1:31:06
  By what author? The book? No. The book? No.
• 1:31:09
  Unknown: No.
• 1:31:10
  Unknown: No. Hold hold on. Christian
• 1:31:12
  Christian doesn't understand what he's asking. There's a whole bunch of different books by different authors.
• 1:31:18
  Oh, it depends on what the subject matter is, Christian.
• 1:31:21
  K? Oh, okay.
• 1:31:23
  Okay. How to do your own bankruptcy? The book on How to do your own talking about Roger. It Yes. Christian?
• 1:31:31
  Unknown: Yes. I have a question.
• 1:31:33
  Unknown: Okay. Just saying. Okay. Go ahead.
• 1:31:36
  Unknown: Oh, yeah.
• 1:31:37
  Just as it says, no no
• 1:31:40
  as
• 1:31:41
  in no
• 1:31:43
  and then
• 1:31:45
  low,
• 1:31:47
  it has some particular
• 1:31:50
  documentation
• 1:31:51
  in regards to that no press. So so there's no press that's being sell
• 1:31:58
  sold to you as a,
• 1:32:02
  as a
• 1:32:04
  a student.
• 1:32:05
  Unknown: Okay. Okay. Well, you don't even have to be a student. I mean, you just need to be somebody that needs to access that information. I highly recommend the source. Thank you, Shane. Samuel
• 1:32:16
  Unknown: Student law.
• 1:32:18
  Unknown: Student law. I don't know how many books they've got to offer. I just know that they got the basic ones covered,
• 1:32:25
  and they probably got a bunch of other ones over there too. So go browse
• 1:32:30
  to your little heart's content.
• 1:32:33
  K?
• 1:32:35
  Alright. Samuel, you were talking about one of their specific books. Okay. See you later, Shane. Thank you. There's
• 1:32:41
  Unknown: a specific book for what we're talking about here. It's called solve your money troubles.
• 1:32:47
  Subtitle is get out of debt and stay that way
• 1:32:51
  by Amy Lof Gordon
• 1:32:53
  and Kara
• 1:32:55
  O'Neil.
• 1:32:57
  Unknown: Stay out of debt, please. As
• 1:33:00
  I've told you with the exception when I had these stupid accidents,
• 1:33:04
  I had to fall back into it. I've been out of debt for twenty five years, and it's a wonderful feeling. K? So trying to achieve that, I know it's well, mortgages,
• 1:33:13
  etcetera, virtually impossible.
• 1:33:16
  But,
• 1:33:17
  keep trying to do the best you can.
• 1:33:21
  Sir, try and clip off because of
• 1:33:24
  and clip off your 20%
• 1:33:26
  APR credit cards. Yeah. Go ahead, Samuel. I'll stop stepping on you.
• 1:33:32
  Unknown: You you gotta get the twentieth edition. You'll see them. Like, if you go to Amazon and you look under books, you might see one for $6,
• 1:33:40
  but it's gonna be one of the earlier editions. You wanna get the twentieth
• 1:33:44
  because it has current law in it, and they're changing it every year. Okay. I'm sure.
• 1:33:49
  Unknown: As more and more people get into debt up, interest on the credit card interest, I think, for the first time went over trillion dollars a month a while back.
• 1:34:00
  I think that's right. You know, rotating credit.
• 1:34:03
  I just know I don't want to be in that debt no more.
• 1:34:07
  So who else has got something? You got any debt free debt free listeners out there that'd like to echo my my statement?
• 1:34:19
  I don't know what it we gotta
• 1:34:21
  seems like,
• 1:34:24
  the folks are real quiet out there. The jungle is quiet.
• 1:34:30
  Roger. Excuse me. Yeah. So there's Julie. Hey, Julie.
• 1:34:35
  Unknown: Hey. Yeah. I'm Samuel.
• 1:34:37
  I bought the Nolo book, solve your money problem,
• 1:34:40
  and I didn't I was not impressed with that book at all. I'm thinking about returning it.
• 1:34:46
  Really? I don't, yeah, I don't see much in the way of letters. I see a couple of letters, and they don't cite any of the laws or anything.
• 1:34:56
  I don't know. I just thought it was really basic
• 1:35:00
  Unknown: on Well, I mean, they look. Well, Nolo Nolo Press writes books for basic
• 1:35:06
  things,
• 1:35:07
  but most people don't know jack crap about the law. K? Right. Right. But that's just an FYI.
• 1:35:14
  Okay. Thank you. Well, Julie here is is quite
• 1:35:17
  skilled in the real estate area and has a bunch of different letters behind her name. And
• 1:35:23
  so I as someone of her astute level, I could see where some of these things might be a bit sophomoric,
• 1:35:30
  Jules.
• 1:35:33
  So where
• 1:35:36
  else can we go? Somebody got something to talk about. We don't know what else is happening.
• 1:35:42
  It's hard catching up from these, Monday holidays a bit in the news cycle,
• 1:35:48
  so we'll find out.
• 1:35:52
  Please
• 1:35:53
  get us out of Iran, Trump.
• 1:35:55
  Unknown: Don't let these guys control Yes.
• 1:35:58
  Unknown: Yes. Who's there?
• 1:36:01
  Unknown: It's Manna.
• 1:36:03
  Unknown: Hey, Manna. How are things in Montana?
• 1:36:06
  Manna from Montana.
• 1:36:08
  That's got a darn ring to it, son.
• 1:36:12
  Unknown: Should have my own show.
• 1:36:15
  Unknown: Hell, here y'all put that on a card. At least you can hand it out. Man, I'm from Montana. I'll fix your log on.
• 1:36:25
  Unknown: If I have to, I'll I'll do it.
• 1:36:28
  I just wanted to echo on that
• 1:36:30
  debt thing. It is
• 1:36:33
  that's how I've I've tried really hard to never go there.
• 1:36:38
  But what I've noticed with working
• 1:36:41
  on
• 1:36:42
  and for,
• 1:36:44
  I guess you'd call them rich people. I mean, I know they're
• 1:36:49
  probably really middle class really, but they just have million dollar homes and
• 1:36:54
  boats and
• 1:36:56
  fancy cars and TVs and all this stuff, but what I noticed is they don't own any of that.
• 1:37:02
  They're Nope. They might be rich and they might have a lot of but they Wow. It's so crazy how they just all of that is.
• 1:37:13
  Unknown: It's not richness and wealth accumulation.
• 1:37:15
  It's cash flow that you're working off of. And so those people, none for whatever reason, variety obviously,
• 1:37:23
  well, they go out and extend themselves along. I want the boat. I want everything. Everything. I I want want this and that and the other. And what you don't know is what their payments are behind the scenes on all that.
• 1:37:33
  And this is why I say,
• 1:37:35
  those appearances, you gotta be very careful,
• 1:37:38
  because what I found at this stage of my life, same mister, just wait just a second, is that less is more.
• 1:37:45
  And that, yeah, they might own those things, but in the end analysis, the things own you. They all they all demand upkeep. They all demand maintenance. They all demand insurance.
• 1:37:56
  They all demand all the over coverage to cover you having access to them. And pretty soon, they own you.
• 1:38:04
  And it's just much better to have less.
• 1:38:08
  That's the way I've come to my hand. It brings you less problems in life. And if there's one thing that I appreciate at my age,
• 1:38:16
  it's less problems.
• 1:38:20
  So I want the least problems possible
• 1:38:22
  and just live out the days I got doing what I wanna do, which is try and spread this message and meet and talk to nice folks like Samuel and Manna
• 1:38:32
  and
• 1:38:34
  enjoy where I'm living and
• 1:38:36
  not have to worry about all that crap.
• 1:38:39
  I'm so glad not to have to have an automobile.
• 1:38:42
  It's just a blessing. K?
• 1:38:45
  So did you ever comment on that, man, or I think Samuel wants to say something?
• 1:38:52
  Unknown: I yield. I just wanted to throw that out there for the day.
• 1:38:56
  Unknown: Thank you, sir.
• 1:38:58
  Samuel.
• 1:39:01
  Unknown: Yeah. I wanted to ask Julie
• 1:39:03
  question. The book may have them in download forms, but they're supposed to have
• 1:39:09
  access to a debt validation letters,
• 1:39:13
  cease and desist letters,
• 1:39:15
  negotiation
• 1:39:16
  letters, and dispute letters.
• 1:39:19
  They're supposed to be part of that book. Well, how much is it? Might be downloadable,
• 1:39:23
  though, and you've gotta pick on certain things to get specific.
• 1:39:27
  So they may not have put a whole bunch of letters in the book. But I would look for for a downloadable
• 1:39:34
  area in there, Julie. See if you find it. If not, let me know.
• 1:39:39
  Unknown: Okay. There you go.
• 1:39:41
  I've always yeah. Of course, I've not worked with the
• 1:39:45
  Unknown: Roger, you can just go to nolo.com,
• 1:39:48
  and they have documents that you can create online and download
• 1:39:53
  useful legal forms. And I don't know if they charge for them or not.
• 1:39:57
  But
• 1:39:58
  as far as like the book goes,
• 1:40:02
  it talks about budgeting.
• 1:40:04
  It just talks about real basic stuff in here
• 1:40:07
  and
• 1:40:09
  definitions. And it has a list of where you complain, like at the Consumer Financial
• 1:40:15
  Protection Bureau and the
• 1:40:17
  federal lending institution stuff. But as far as mostly
• 1:40:21
  definitions
• 1:40:22
  in here,
• 1:40:25
  and then they do have
• 1:40:28
  sample letter
• 1:40:29
  disputing credit card charges,
• 1:40:32
  but
• 1:40:34
  it's just so basic.
• 1:40:37
  Unknown: Julie.
• 1:40:39
  Yeah. 50%
• 1:40:40
  of the people in the country can't read above the sixth grade level.
• 1:40:45
  Unknown: I know. That's why I when I bought the book and I looked and flipped through it, I was like, this is not for me.
• 1:40:52
  Unknown: No. It's for them.
• 1:40:54
  Yes.
• 1:40:55
  Unfortunately,
• 1:40:56
  I'm sorry to say that's where we are, but this is the the long march, and we wake up. And for decades, they've been doing this, brainwashing people, dumbing them down, feeding them poison.
• 1:41:08
  And all of a sudden, we wake up and we see the results all around us, and it's facts like that.
• 1:41:13
  Fifty percent of the people can't read above the sixth grade level. Might have been the third grade levels. One of those two. Even more startling,
• 1:41:21
  twenty five percent of them were totally illiterate.
• 1:41:27
  Unknown: Yeah. I,
• 1:41:29
  I I think I see the problem here, Julie. The downloads are located on Nolo's
• 1:41:34
  dedicated companion site, not inside the book itself.
• 1:41:38
  Unknown: So you have to access the downloads.
• 1:41:40
  Unknown: Find the URL,
• 1:41:41
  open your copy of solve your money troubles to appendix c
• 1:41:47
  or sometimes appendix a b
• 1:41:50
  depending on printing.
• 1:41:52
  Look for the specific web address listed here typically formatted as blah blah blah.
• 1:41:59
  So,
• 1:42:01
  you know, you you have to actually go in through rather
• 1:42:06
  complicated,
• 1:42:07
  but How
• 1:42:08
  Unknown: much is the book?
• 1:42:10
  Unknown: $20? $26.
• 1:42:13
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:42:14
  26. You get four or five letters for $26?
• 1:42:16
  Unknown: They do have, like, they do have, like, sample letter writing if your credit card if you, like, buy something with your credit card and then you call the credit card company up and they refuse to credit back because you
• 1:42:30
  buy a coat and it was defective or whatever, they'll make a claim under 15 U. S. C. Section sixteen sixty one,
• 1:42:38
  one and twelve
• 1:42:39
  one or I and then 12 CFR
• 1:42:42
  section ten twenty six dash one two c. I think that's a spelling error in their book here. And tell them that, you know, remove the money from my credit card bill and stuff like that. But,
• 1:42:53
  you know, they've got Yesterday.
• 1:42:56
  Unknown: That was part of my two hour conversation
• 1:42:59
  with Wells Fargo.
• 1:43:01
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:43:02
  Unknown: Mean, they do have student loan debt that something like student loan debt is obviously gonna be a rather complicated issue, I would think.
• 1:43:10
  Unknown: Right. I mean, talk a lot about bankruptcy,
• 1:43:13
  Chapter seven, Chapter 13, Chapter 11,
• 1:43:17
  and will bankruptcy solve your debt problems and how to stop judgment collection
• 1:43:22
  efforts and stuff like that. But
• 1:43:25
  boy,
• 1:43:26
  it's
• 1:43:29
  and then they have a letter to the creditor about debt collectors' improper collection tactics,
• 1:43:36
  about writing them to quit harassing you.
• 1:43:42
  Unknown: That's the first one. All you have to do is so you have to fax it. You don't have to write them. You fax them a letter that says whatever fair debt collection act invoking
• 1:43:51
  section so and so, and they they adhere to it. Okay?
• 1:43:55
  Unknown: I mean, there's a there is a sample letter in here to the creditor or debt collector to make a lump sum payment
• 1:44:01
  if negative information is removed from the credit reports. But Paul's letter is better than this. It just basically states I'm in a position to resolve this matter. I can pay a lump sum payment amount of this
• 1:44:13
  in installments
• 1:44:15
  of this by this date if you agree to do the following.
• 1:44:19
  And it basically says that
• 1:44:22
  to remove the negative
• 1:44:25
  credit information
• 1:44:28
  from Experian, Equifax and TransUnion
• 1:44:31
  and any other credit reporting agency to which the account was reported and to delete all
• 1:44:38
  accounts trade lines for this debt.
• 1:44:41
  Unknown: Yeah. I think the first letter you're actually supposed to send them
• 1:44:45
  is to have them validate it. And they that's the first stumbling block they've got is they they don't have any record of validation.
• 1:44:53
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 1:44:56
  Yeah.
• 1:44:57
  Unknown: Yeah. And it basically says, received a letter from you about a debt for a blank owed to so and so. I dispute the validity
• 1:45:04
  of this debt. Please provide documentation
• 1:45:07
  verifying the debt, including the last date you claim I made a payment on this debt. Please also send me the name and address of the original creditor and immediately return this account to the creditor and delete your trade line from my credit files.
• 1:45:20
  Unknown: Yeah. There you go.
• 1:45:24
  That's the threshold they they they pretty much can't legally pass. A
• 1:45:29
  Unknown: tar baby world
• 1:45:31
  it is.
• 1:45:36
  Try to stop your involvement with these bandits.
• 1:45:42
  Unknown: Think because they're All the stopping collectors citizens.
• 1:45:46
  Unknown: Think because they're attorney collectors, them
• 1:45:50
  being the first one to throw down the gauntlet and actually file collection
• 1:45:54
  action with the court,
• 1:45:57
  that
• 1:45:58
  was their first hurdle they threw at him.
• 1:46:02
  Because it's hard for him
• 1:46:04
  to have them validate the debt when he's already on the hook with a court date.
• 1:46:11
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, he's so deep that I think your approach is best right now, Paul.
• 1:46:16
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:46:18
  That's why I picked that one.
• 1:46:21
  Unknown: Plus, he he does he does feel that he owes some of this. Right? He's trying to just be on hold. He's gonna try and he's gonna not he's not squirreling off on the debt. He's gonna pay offer to pay him half of it.
• 1:46:32
  Unknown: Right. Well, actually, the original debt was, like, 2,200.
• 1:46:36
  Okay? Yeah. But the Tractor Supply sold the debt to a third party collector, which we know they did not pay 2,200
• 1:46:45
  for it. They probably paid $2.50 if if
• 1:46:49
  anything,
• 1:46:51
  and his offer is to settle 50%
• 1:46:54
  with them,
• 1:46:56
  50% of the original debt without any
• 1:47:00
  interest,
• 1:47:01
  without any penalties,
• 1:47:02
  without any of the $2,500
• 1:47:05
  markup that
• 1:47:06
  each collection agency adds to the bill as the as it trades hands.
• 1:47:11
  He's trying to equitably settle
• 1:47:14
  something that he agrees he owes,
• 1:47:17
  but he's not going to give them the whole 2,200
• 1:47:20
  Unknown: because he knows they didn't pay that. Mhmm. Now in this instance, does the UCC rule apply
• 1:47:27
  that will if they refuse
• 1:47:29
  that,
• 1:47:30
  is that considered paid?
• 1:47:35
  If they refuse Christian's offer,
• 1:47:38
  is it considered paid? Because under the UCC, and I don't know the stipulations
• 1:47:43
  that might be in the fine print, but if you tender payment and it's refused, it's considered paid.
• 1:47:50
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, all this comes under the debt collection act, Roger. I don't think it's any
• 1:47:55
  it's the UCC anymore.
• 1:47:57
  Unknown: Woke?
• 1:47:59
  Okay. I don't know. I just wanna ask the question. Don't know. Interesting,
• 1:48:03
  though.
• 1:48:06
  Unknown: Roger.
• 1:48:07
  Roger.
• 1:48:08
  Unknown: Yes. There's someone Michael Michael Michael.
• 1:48:11
  Unknown: Garcia. He is.
• 1:48:12
  No. That's that's Jerry. He is. Garcia in Carlsbad, New Mexico. Hey,
• 1:48:17
  Unknown: mister g. How you doing? I'm great.
• 1:48:21
  Unknown: I'm doing good. But I just wanted to throw in that I graduated from the third grade,
• 1:48:27
  and you're right. Third graders can barely read or understand anything
• 1:48:32
  Unknown: they read. I just want to throw that in. Yep. Oh, and I do have a third grade diploma. Understand
• 1:48:39
  Unknown: glad you understand about getting free. Go ahead.
• 1:48:44
  Unknown: Oh, I'm free. I
• 1:48:46
  Unknown: know. I know.
• 1:48:48
  Unknown: Thank you.
• 1:48:49
  Unknown: Hey. Thank you, buddy. Keep doing good down there, Jerry.
• 1:48:54
  Unknown: And you've got that act titled titled like the Patriot Act. Oh,
• 1:48:59
  Unknown: somebody's trying to say they want that old time religion, I think. What was that?
• 1:49:08
  Give me that old time religion. Was that what I heard or who was Maybe I'm free to do what I want any old time. Old time.
• 1:49:17
  Yes. Good Mick. Good Mick.
• 1:49:20
  That's good early Mick right there.
• 1:49:23
  Yes. Who was trying to say something?
• 1:49:26
  Unknown: Yeah. It's called the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
• 1:49:30
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:49:32
  Unknown: Yeah. Sort of like the Patriot Act. Right? Yeah. Everything's unfair about it, but they're gonna call it fair debt collection. Well, they're trying to make it fair.
• 1:49:41
  Unknown: So I think what they're trying to do is level the playing field a little bit, give you a, a remedy or two or at least a way to stop some or most or possibly all of the, hassling they do to you.
• 1:49:55
  Little they're like,
• 1:49:58
  I can't think of the little fish. Some fish that's always, you know, like a tick, a little tick fly or something on a horse keep bothering you.
• 1:50:08
  Try and stay out of debt. It's a wonderful way to live life if you can. I know everybody can.
• 1:50:13
  I tell you what, I wonder if they're going to invoke acceleration
• 1:50:19
  clauses on mortgages
• 1:50:20
  this time around, Samuel. Julie, you think you think they'll do acceleration
• 1:50:26
  clauses? I believe they did that on people in the thirties.
• 1:50:32
  You know anything about that? Barger?
• 1:50:35
  The what? Applied accelerate applied acceleration clauses.
• 1:50:40
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
• 1:50:42
  I mean, these people are just evil.
• 1:50:45
  Unknown: Well, the the what folks, if you don't we're talking about in your mortgage, if you got one,
• 1:50:50
  which means to kill, by the way,
• 1:50:53
  from the root word Mortmain.
• 1:50:57
  And in in virtually every mortgage,
• 1:51:01
  there's what's called an acceleration clause,
• 1:51:04
  and that means that they can call the loan due and payable at any time.
• 1:51:08
  I heard they did that back in the thirties. Do you know anything about that, Julie?
• 1:51:18
  Unknown: I know they I know they used that a lot of times. They just accelerated it. If you transferred the property into, like a trust, they tried to pull those tactics. If you moved it into an LLC or something, they tried to accelerate
• 1:51:31
  it. But I don't think they're doing that today if you move it into one of those properties.
• 1:51:36
  Unknown: No. They won't. But I'm just worried about the general economy getting so bad because, folks, what's coming,
• 1:51:42
  there there's never been anything like it in the history of the planet before.
• 1:51:46
  So these guys, we know who they are.
• 1:51:50
  Unknown: I highly recommend everybody go to Rumble and watch the interview between the warrior and
• 1:51:57
  Josh Reid. I sent you that
• 1:52:00
  humor,
• 1:52:02
  Joan and Robbie, the Rumble video and a couple of other of you guys I texted it to you. If you see what Josh Rees knows about what these people did
• 1:52:12
  from all the way back from
• 1:52:15
  '16 forward and what all the crimes they committed for all of this election stuff and everything
• 1:52:21
  and the meeting between
• 1:52:23
  Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton on the tarmac and all of the
• 1:52:27
  unlawful things they've done. It is just crazy where the servers are, where all of the chemical
• 1:52:34
  bombs are in Ukraine for We The People and everything. It is just so unnerving.
• 1:52:40
  And that guy, Josh Reed, he's got Asperger's
• 1:52:43
  disease. He's beyond genius. Those people are so smart. And the details behind which he has because he used to work in the intelligence community.
• 1:52:53
  And so with all of that stuff that they had planned for us and all of these sleeper cells and everything, and then you guys go look at David Nino Rodriguez,
• 1:53:03
  who lives in El Paso, Texas, he's just down by the river. The river should be over on top of his neck. It's empty due to the new
• 1:53:12
  AI
• 1:53:13
  data centers that they just built near him. There's zero water. There's zero water in Colorado.
• 1:53:20
  There's zero water in the Hoover Dam. They're going to starve us to death and make it so we don't have water.
• 1:53:28
  Unknown: One more important note on NOLO Press, Roger, is
• 1:53:32
  the reason that you're in because the older editions of the book had the letters printed in them,
• 1:53:38
  like back 2015.
• 1:53:40
  But Nolo Press
• 1:53:42
  has removed almost all their forms to digital only to ensure they remain up to date with changing laws.
• 1:53:51
  That's smart. So that's why you're not getting you're getting you're getting
• 1:53:56
  boilerplate,
• 1:53:57
  but maybe in the book, but you're not gonna get specifics.
• 1:54:01
  Unknown: So you've gotta actually download it. Well, I'd say that see, I'd say that speaks very highly of no low press
• 1:54:09
  and their credibility.
• 1:54:10
  Actually, it does. So
• 1:54:12
  Unknown: So you you can buy an old edition of that book and get the updated law just by accessing accessing it it through through through the website.
• 1:54:21
  Because because the the, the older editions of that book I saw were, like, $7,
• 1:54:26
  and the new one is, like, 27.
• 1:54:28
  Unknown: So I wonder if they'd entertain a book how to free yourself from the federal government.
• 1:54:37
  I don't know if they'd publish that one or not, Samuel.
• 1:54:42
  Unknown: Well, okay. These these two women are looking at the ugly side of debt collection. That's for sure.
• 1:54:47
  Unknown: It would not let you give it away, Raj.
• 1:54:50
  Unknown: It's a ugly activity.
• 1:54:53
  They wouldn't let you give it away? What's No. They would not let you give your own book away. Well, they probably not. Probably
• 1:55:00
  not. Yes, Julie. Yes, dear.
• 1:55:03
  Unknown: So I just googled
• 1:55:08
  I just group I just googled
• 1:55:10
  PDF
• 1:55:11
  Unknown: letter. We're gonna we're gonna find you. We're gonna find you. Sample deck.
• 1:55:17
  You've been fined $25
• 1:55:18
  for using the g word. Go ahead.
• 1:55:21
  Unknown: Okay. Well, anyway, I just I
• 1:55:24
  just
• 1:55:26
  I
• 1:55:27
  just googled
• 1:55:28
  sample debt validation letter, here's what it is. Ding. Ding. That's 50. Go ahead.
• 1:55:34
  To whom it may concern. Be advised this is not a refusal to pay but a notice that your claim is disputed and validation is requested.
• 1:55:42
  Under the Fair Debt
• 1:55:44
  Collection Practices Act, I have the right to request validation
• 1:55:47
  of the debt you say I owe you. I am requesting proof that I am indeed the party you are asking to pay this debt and there is some contractual obligation that is binding on me to pay this debt. This is not
• 1:56:00
  verification or proof of my mailing address, but a request for validation
• 1:56:05
  made pursuant to Title 15 U. S. C. Sixteen ninety two gs Section eight zero nine, small parenthesis B of the FDCPA.
• 1:56:14
  I respectfully
• 1:56:16
  request that your offices provide me with competent evidence that I have any legal obligation to pay you. At this time, I'll also inform you that if your offices have or continue to report invalidated
• 1:56:26
  information to any of the three major credit bureaus,
• 1:56:30
  Equifax,
• 1:56:31
  Experian, TransUnion, this action might constitute
• 1:56:34
  fraud under both federal and state laws. Due to this fact, if any negative mark is found or continues to report on any of my credit reports by your company or the company you represent, I will not hesitate to bring legal action against you and your client for the following: violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and defamation of character. I am sure your legal staff will agree that non compliance with this request could put your company in serious legal
• 1:56:59
  trouble with the FTC and other state or federal agencies.
• 1:57:03
  If your offices are
• 1:57:04
  able to provide the proper documentation as requested in the following declaration,
• 1:57:09
  I will require thirty days to investigate this information and during such time, all collection activity must cease and desist.
• 1:57:17
  Also during this validation period, if any action is taken which could be considered
• 1:57:22
  detrimental to any of my credit reports, I will consult legal counsel for suit. This includes any listing of any information to a credit reporting repository that could be inaccurate or invalidated.
• 1:57:33
  If your offices fail to respond to this validation request within thirty days from the date of your receipt, all references to this account must be deleted and completely removed from my credit file and a copy of such deletion request shall be sent to me immediately.
• 1:57:47
  And it says please provide the following. Number one, agreement with your client that grants you authority to collect on this alleged debt.
• 1:57:55
  Number two, agreement that bears the signature of the alleged debtor wherein heshe agreed to pay the creditor.
• 1:58:01
  Number three, any insurance claims that have been made by the creditor regarding this account. Number four, any judgments obtained by any creditor regarding this account. Name and address of alleged creditor.
• 1:58:12
  Name on file of alleged debtor.
• 1:58:15
  Alleged account number. Address on file for alleged debtor. Amount of alleged debt. Date this alleged debt became payable. Date of original charge off or delinquency.
• 1:58:25
  Verification that this debt was assigned or sold to collector,
• 1:58:29
  complete accounting of alleged debt, commission for debt collector if collection efforts efforts are successful,
• 1:58:36
  and it has it goes on and on. It's just this is just from a g word
• 1:58:41
  website.
• 1:58:45
  Unknown: Good. You're learning. Just come out of the
• 1:58:48
  hey. She just come out I was making coffee. She this is Christian.
• 1:58:53
  Yes. Hi, Christian. You just came out of the shoot
• 1:58:57
  number five like a bull rider,
• 1:59:00
  and I I couldn't get my paper and my pen quick enough. What what website is that? If you give me your email, I'll just email it to you.
• 1:59:09
  Unknown: Email to me too, please, Julie.
• 1:59:11
  To me too. Me
• 1:59:13
  Unknown: too. Me too. I'm kinda scared of giving stuff out now. I'm I'm shaking at my knees when you ask me that. To me. I'll forward it to him.
• 1:59:22
  Unknown: Okay. I'll just email it to Paul right now. Wonderful. Wonderful, Paul. So,
• 1:59:28
  Unknown: Julie, do you need to listen from link from the book to No Lo Press?
• 1:59:32
  Unknown: No. No. This is something totally different.
• 1:59:35
  Unknown: Okay. Alright.
• 1:59:37
  Unknown: We gotta Alright. We're gonna take it
• 1:59:40
  Unknown: It's for the audience. Samuel, I'll you out, period, because we're about to end and hope you got something out of that. Go get yourself out of debt. We'll see you tomorrow.
• 1:59:51
  Unknown: I just texted it to you, Samuel.
• 1:59:56
  Unknown: Roger, debt collectors ignore ignore those letters that Julie wrote.
• 2:00:01
  They they just ignore them.
• 2:00:03
  That's just too much information. It's like it's like the teacher talking
• 2:00:08
  to the students on Snoopy.
• 2:00:11
  I mean, they just ignore them. They don't have to provide all that.
• 2:00:14
  There's only three things that a debt collector has to provide. If you write that you dispute the debt
• 2:00:19
  under the FDCPA.
• 2:00:21
  They have to provide written
• 2:00:22
  verification of the debt, which means they're confirming the amount you owe matches the creditor's records.
• 2:00:29
  They have to provide a court judgment if it's applicable
• 2:00:34
  or if it exists, and they have to provide the name and address of the original creditor if it differs from the current creditor. That's it.
• 2:00:42
  So,
• 2:00:43
  really, the only way you should the only valid reason you have the disputed debt is if they sent the the correspondence to the wrong party
• 2:00:53
  that has a different name on it,
• 2:00:56
  or
• 2:00:57
  maybe the address is wrong
• 2:00:59
  because you could have someone else with the same name at a different address.
• 2:01:03
  Or, you know, there's all kinds like, if there if there's if the address was wrong, like, on the statement on the the bank statement.
• 2:01:11
  But what a lot of times, probably most every time,
• 2:01:15
  what what a debt collector considers as validation when you write them back, of course, they gotta stop all collection
• 2:01:22
  activity for thirty days because that's what the statute calls for.
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  And then what they end up providing you with is the last account statement.
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  And,
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  that's like the final blow because if you never disputed that debt to begin with with the original creditor,
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  that's where they got you.
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  And they they they have the grounds to file a lawsuit against you
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  Because what they're gonna do is they're gonna come in usual using
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  these three very common counts in the lawsuit.
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  They're gonna use unjust enrichment,
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  so you defaulted on your debt, and now you're just trying to take advantage of not being responsible and paying back the debt.
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  And then another account is gonna be account stated that you failed to dispute,
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  you know, the the the
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  the debt itself with the original creditor when they were sending you statements.
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  And then and then you have, of course, the original contract,
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  which most of the time they don't have. And, usually, if they don't have that and they don't they they can't prevail on it, they will prevail on the account stated
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  count.
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  And, so, you know, there's a lot of these letters that are circulating. I've seen them two pages long.
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  There's no way they're gonna read that. They're gonna get that, and they're gonna throw it in the garbage.
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  So if you really wanna hear how this stuff is you know, how it really works and how it's done,
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  listen to a guy named John
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  Watts
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  on YouTube. He's been a consumer protection attorney for
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  an injury personal injury attorney
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  for, like, twenty five years.
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  He's got a slew of videos. His name is John,
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  w a t t s,
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  and he's gone over this whole dispute letter that's you know, all these various dispute letters that are circulating out there on the Internet. And he says they're just a bunch of nonsense.
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  And the debt collector,
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  whether it's the bank collecting on its own debt or a third party debt collector or a law firm that the bank hires, they don't have to provide any of that information.
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  They just have to provide what I just mentioned under the FDCPA,
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  and that's it. And if you're gonna dispute a debt because maybe the name is wrong or the amount is wrong, maybe maybe you would default it on $10,000
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  and the the they're they're coming at you saying, oh, you owe you owe the bank $15,000.
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  Well, you could dispute that. You could say, I dispute the amount is wrong. Now they have to provide the documentation
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  to get those numbers
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  straightened out.
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  And, but, you know, all they gotta do is provide a very limited amount of information
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  to verify the debt under the under the statute.
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  Unknown: Okay.
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  Unknown: Same amount of debt. Same amount of advice.
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  I'll just continue with what Paul's doing because that's right, Larry. I they've already they've
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  they've already confirmed that what you're talking about, what did how much how much it was and all that. So Yeah.
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  Unknown: Thank you all. Thank you. Yep. Yep. Stay out of debt best you can. You know, sometimes it's impossible.
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  Anybody else got anything for you that's not debt related?
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  Yes. I
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  Unknown: do. I do. I do.
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  Just before you
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  I'm
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  you mentioned about people thinking of moving to South America.
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  And I I was wondering where Joan was today,
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  but she might be part partying down there with two ex
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  congress critters who were loyal to Trump and found it out that it was only one way.
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  Thomas Mapsy and
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  MTG
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  are down in Costa Rica
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  Unknown: vacationing together. I just thought you'd find Oh, are they? Funny. Oh, that's cool. I find that good. Maybe Joan's hanging out with them. Who knows?
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  So, anyway, okay. Great sketch. So Quite. It's good. Do yes. Bruce.
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  Bruce. Hello, Bruce.
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  Unknown: Hi.
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  Why are you going through all this chaos?
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  The bank has already got paid with the whatever you took out.
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  Unknown: They they make 20 just gave you a They got a big good debt. They got a big fund to cover unpaid debts, and they're real fat. I wouldn't worry about it.
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  K?
• 2:05:58
  Was there somebody else that had something to say there?
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  I Question? See y'all.
• 2:06:06
  Unknown: Yes, sir. Yeah. This is
• 2:06:10
  is Rollin,
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  second time caller.
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  Unknown: Okay. Hi, Rollin, r a w l I n, like Rollin?
• 2:06:18
  Unknown: R o l l I n.
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  Unknown: Rollin. Okay.
• 2:06:23
  Rollin. That's how I'd say it. Okay. Rollin. Hey, Rollin. Second time caller, I speak with you. Well, how can we how can we do you?
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  Unknown: The first time I called in, I had forgot to make copies of my affidavit that I sent to the Shame
• 2:06:40
  Unknown: on you.
• 2:06:42
  Unknown: I know.
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  So I
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  went and did the whole process over again
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  or so I thought.
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  And I went and I just applied for a passport card,
• 2:06:53
  and I do believe I have what is called their bluff letter.
• 2:06:57
  Unknown: Yes, sir. Do you want me to read you the first paragraph?
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  It appears by what you submitted that you're a citizen of The United States.
• 2:07:05
  And then it quotes part of the fourteenth amendment blah blah blah blah. This cannot be waived unilaterally
• 2:07:11
  blah blah except by operational law. Is that the first paragraph?
• 2:07:18
  Unknown: Almost.
• 2:07:19
  It appears from the facts of your birth and documents you submitted that you are a US citizen entitled to a US passport.
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  Unknown: Yep.
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  Okay.
• 2:07:28
  Well Yeah. You can address them several ways.
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  You can address them in the fact of Vattel's law of nations as and echoed by the UN Charter
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  that every man has the right of personal political self determination,
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  and you're exercising
• 2:07:44
  that right.
• 2:07:45
  You could also take some a sentence out of their own document on the state department's website,
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  certificate of noncitizen
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  nationality,
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  and you could quote several things out of their own policy document,
• 2:07:59
  like, depending on which version you've got, the start of the second or the third
• 2:08:05
  paragraph where it says, according to the INA, the Immigration and Naturalization
• 2:08:10
  Act, it's what that stands for. According to the INA,
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  comma, all
• 2:08:17
  US citizens
• 2:08:18
  are US nationals.
• 2:08:21
  And then you could go a little bit further down outside
• 2:08:24
  of the policy statement there
• 2:08:27
  where they quote The United States code title eight.
• 2:08:32
  It's three zero eight, I think. It says,
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  a national owes total allegiance
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  to a small estate
• 2:08:40
  and quote them that. There are other things you could throw at them, but if you'll do that, they'll send you your documents.
• 2:08:49
  Unknown: Yeah. I've got the, bluff letter printed out right in front of me. It's a it's a blank sheet
• 2:08:55
  of that.
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  I was
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  wondering
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  the
• 2:09:02
  the bluff letter
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  response,
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  the very last paragraph.
• 2:09:09
  Some some of that information,
• 2:09:11
  I don't have. I got the green card back, both of them actually,
• 2:09:14
  Unknown: and only the first one has any case on it.
• 2:09:18
  Unknown: They're just trying to test it. Alright. K?
• 2:09:21
  And so you could also you
• 2:09:23
  quoted the fourteenth amendment in the letter in the first paragraph.
• 2:09:27
  The fourteenth amendment does not say
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  all persons born or naturalized in The United States
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  are
• 2:09:35
  subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
• 2:09:38
  It says and.
• 2:09:41
  If there's some that are and subject,
• 2:09:44
  there are some that have to be and not
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  subject.
• 2:09:49
  There's a number of things you could throw back at them. You'll get your documents.
• 2:09:55
  Alright.
• 2:09:57
  Okay.
• 2:09:59
  Anything else wrong? It's pretty it's pretty easy. It is not complex. One of those things I just
• 2:10:07
  stated there for Yes.
• 2:10:10
  This is Dave. Alright.
• 2:10:12
  Alright. Good morning.
• 2:10:13
  I didn't hear if was was the letter signed by anyone?
• 2:10:21
  Was it signed by anyone?
• 2:10:24
  No. Sincerely,
• 2:10:26
  that's the reason computer
• 2:10:28
  generated.
• 2:10:29
  That's how I can quote you the first paragraph,
• 2:10:32
  almost verbatim.
• 2:10:36
  Unknown: Was it was the envelope sealed?
• 2:10:39
  Sometimes they don't even seal the envelope.
• 2:10:42
  Unknown: And if it was if it was legit, it would probably be certified or something. You know? Anyway, I gotta take the call. If you if you don't respond to it, they probably will not send you the document is my prediction.
• 2:10:56
  So respond to it. We've never had anybody that responded that didn't get their documents. It's a test.
• 2:11:05
  How much do you know? Okay? It's all it is.
• 2:11:10
  Unknown: So if I just follow that bluff letter response
• 2:11:14
  and just use a code title eight
• 2:11:17
  chapter 12.
• 2:11:18
  Anyway, you know what I'm talking about.
• 2:11:20
  That should be enough. Yeah. Well, you yeah.
• 2:11:23
  Unknown: Any of those or all of them will, will negate their falsified
• 2:11:28
  presumption.
• 2:11:29
  They know it. They're just testing you.
• 2:11:33
  Right. This is why I tell you,
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  you're never going to be free unless you learn the information.
• 2:11:43
  If you can't respond to stuff like this,
• 2:11:46
  you're not free.
• 2:11:52
  Unknown: I believe
• 2:11:53
  you.
• 2:11:54
  I'm learning. Okay.
• 2:11:56
  Unknown: Alright. Well, it just takes time. I understand. Okay. Thank you, Roland. Good to talk to you again. Come back and visit if you got other. There's
• 2:12:05
  a questions in Spanish. Yeah. Yes. Anyone else for the ride? Thank
• 2:12:09
  Unknown: you.
• 2:12:10
  Unknown: Yes. You're welcome. Thank you. Anybody
• 2:12:13
  else?
• 2:12:14
  Going once.
• 2:12:16
  No.
• 2:12:17
  Going twice.
• 2:12:19
  Okay. You little freedom seekers. I'll see you tomorrow. Have a great day.
• 2:13:13
  Unknown: What happened? Roger duck out?
• 2:13:18
  Yeah. Apparently, he did.
• 2:13:20
  Alright.
• 2:13:22
  Let's take this take this thing down then. Yes. He did.
• 2:13:26
  Excellent.
• 2:13:27
  Cool. Thanks for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles for the 05/27/2026.
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• 2:13:44
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• 2:13:47
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• 2:13:56
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  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.