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9-01-26 Hour 1 - Wrong way to handle dead money/Rox crushing defeat, "Top Heavy" Avs/Cooper pleads not guilty · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: Look, I thought Sam earned it, played well, especially finished
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  Speaker 2: the season, the preseason well. We felt that became an
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  Speaker 2: easier decision. As we got into camp a little bit further.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Take a step that is new. I need to.
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  Speaker 3: We have to start here. And, Vic, I want you
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  Speaker 3: to calm down. Because you're going to tell me to
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  Speaker 3: calm down. And I am calm. Because this is a
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  Speaker 3: funny thing. Am I disappointed that the Broncos yesterday lost
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  Speaker 3: Justin Jolie? Yeah, sure.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit. Again, this all goes back to, I
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  Speaker 3: don't understand why you need to keep a third quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Justin Jolie was somebody that had potential, I think, to
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  Speaker 3: be a pass-catching tight end in a way that could
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  Speaker 3: help an offense, your offense, down the road. Maybe after
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  Speaker 3: this year, whenever Ingram's contract is up. Like, Dallin Bentley
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  Speaker 3: made the roster, but Dallin Bentley is like Adam Troutman.
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  Speaker 3: He's a blocking guy. So Miami picks him up. But
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  Speaker 3: here's what's funny. I saw, I think it was Mike Kliss.
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  Speaker 3: I had some notification on Mike Kliss. Had a tweet saying,
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  Speaker 3: Justin Jolie picked up off waivers by Miami. Man, really?
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  Speaker 3: Then I realized Miami Dolphins hated their team so much.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't take Justin Jolie. They took Justin Jolie and
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  Speaker 3: six other players off of waivers. which I don't think
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  Speaker 3: has ever happened before. Imagine cutting your roster down to
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  Speaker 3: 53 and saying to yourself, I could afford to lose
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  Speaker 3: seven more of these guys, okay? They took seven players
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  Speaker 3: off of waivers.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I was saying yesterday. There were guys, I said,
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  Speaker 4: right this very moment, there were guys going, I got it. Mom,
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  Speaker 4: I made the team. No, you did not because they
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  Speaker 4: just claimed six dudes and you're probably going to get
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  Speaker 4: your butt waved.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I looked up something even further. The Miami Dolphins,
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  Speaker 3: this year, are spending $ 56. 8 million on their offense. They're
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  Speaker 3: spending $ 57. 2 million on their defense. And they're spending $ 3. 6
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  Speaker 3: million on special teams. So you add all that up,
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  Speaker 3: just going to ballpark it. We're talking $ 117 million. Now
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  Speaker 3: do the dead space stuff. Do you know what they're
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  Speaker 3: spending in dead money? Do you know what they're spending?
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  Speaker 4: What? Tua alone, right?
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  Speaker 3: $ 181. 6 million on guys not to play for them. That's
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  Speaker 3: called a reset. Tua is owed 55.4 this year. Tyreek, 28.2.
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Waddell, because they traded him, signing bonus, all that stuff, 23.2.
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey, 20.8. Minka Fitzpatrick, $ 13 million. Bradley Chubb, $ 11 million.
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  Speaker 3: Teron Armstead, $ 10. 7 million. And the list goes on from there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're going to stink, but I will say this. If
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  Speaker 3: you were a young player.
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  Speaker 4: That team might not win a game this year. Maybe not.
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  Speaker 4: And you'd know all about that, wouldn't you?
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  Speaker 3: Seen it before.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Vic.
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  Speaker 4: Excuse me. If I was a young guy.
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  Speaker 4: Getting drafted or a free agent, and I wanted a
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  Speaker 4: job in the National Football League, I can promise you
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  Speaker 4: that I would want to be taken by the Miami
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  Speaker 4: Dolphins even though they're going to stink.
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  Speaker 3: And the reason is.
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  Speaker 4: You can get a job there. Do you know how
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  Speaker 4: many draft picks they had this year?
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  Speaker 3: 17. I don't know. They had 13.
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  Speaker 4: Close. Two firsts, a second, three thirds, two fourths, three fifths,
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  Speaker 4: a sixth, and a seventh. If you want a job, man,
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  Speaker 4: you're going to have a job in the Miami Dolphins.
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  Speaker 4: It's like working at the post office. You want a job,
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  Speaker 4: post office is hiring.
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  Speaker 3: Let me ask you guys a question. I'll be blown away.
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  Speaker 3: You guys get a gold star if you answer this correctly.
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  Speaker 3: Can you name me the 14th highest paid Miami Dolphin?
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  Speaker 3: Why would you ask the 14th? Who's the 14th highest
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  Speaker 3: paid Miami Dolphin? Your mom. I'll say the running back.
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  Speaker 4: It's Greg Dulcich.
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  Speaker 5: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Our tight end?
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: They have one player on the roster making over $ 10 million.
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  Speaker 3: And that's who?
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  Speaker 4: One player. Zach Seeler. How much is the running back making?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he's getting paid yet. He's only 3.1
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  Speaker 3: against the cap. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So our pretty boy tight end from UCLA who couldn't
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  Speaker 4: make it here, couldn't stay healthy, is now the 14th
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  Speaker 4: highest paid Miami Dolphin.
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  Speaker 3: So I bring all this up to tell you.
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  Speaker 3: Because it's Stinglues and Joe Leisure. But bottom line is,
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  Speaker 3: the Dolphins are trying to take a page out of
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  Speaker 3: what the Broncos have done with the Russell Wilson contract.
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  Speaker 3: It's really interesting. Tua and Russell Wilson's dead money are
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  Speaker 3: very similar. Tua's a little bit more, but they're doing
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  Speaker 3: the spread it over two years thing. So I think
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  Speaker 3: Russell Wilson was 50 and then 35 or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: And Tua's like 55 and 43. So a little bit higher.
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  Speaker 3: But It's even more impressive to see how the Broncos
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  Speaker 3: navigated that looking at what the Dolphins are doing.
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  Speaker 5: Just imagine less than three years ago when these two
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  Speaker 5: teams met in Miami and the Dolphins put 70 on
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  Speaker 5: the Broncos.
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  Speaker 3: Think about where.
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  Speaker 5: That team was headed, where the Broncos were going, and
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  Speaker 5: where they are today.
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  Speaker 3: Ain't that funny? Funny. It's crazy. It's absolutely nuts.
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  Speaker 5: If I would have told you back then, if I
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  Speaker 5: would have told you the day after the Dolphins put
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  Speaker 5: 70 on the Broncos, that I said to you, one
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  Speaker 5: of these teams in the next two years will go
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  Speaker 5: to the playoffs, and one of them will go to
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  Speaker 5: the AFC Championship game and host.
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  Speaker 3: Who would you have predicted?
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  Speaker 4: The Miami Dolphins.
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  Speaker 3: Of course you would have at that point.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The way they were rolling.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Vic, I've been thinking about this when teams
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  Speaker 4: are trying to do things like this. The Denver Broncos
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  Speaker 4: have navigated the Russell Wilson situation pretty damn well.
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  Speaker 5: Brilliantly, not pretty damn well. Okay, I'll go along. I'll
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  Speaker 5: call it brilliantly as well.
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  Speaker 4: And it's virtually impossible to do, but you have to
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  Speaker 4: have certain things that go very, very right.
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  Speaker 3: Like.
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  Speaker 4: This defense can hold things down. Whilst the offense comes
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  Speaker 4: up to speed, whilst you have a rookie quarterback who's
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  Speaker 4: on a rookie deal, but that guy can actually really
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  Speaker 4: play the game, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yep. And they didn't just survive. They thrived then.
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  Speaker 4: Two playoff appearances in a row, including an AFC title
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  Speaker 4: game appearance. I'm telling you, the Dolphins may be looking
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  Speaker 4: at the Broncos and saying, okay, that's a blueprint that
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  Speaker 4: we can try to follow. But so many things have
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  Speaker 4: to be right, including the people in charge running the show,
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  Speaker 4: like Sean Payton and George Payton. It's not an easy
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  Speaker 4: task at all.
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing, though. How do you navigate this? To me,
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  Speaker 3: this is why what the Broncos did worked. And yes,
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  Speaker 3: there's luck in a number of different factors that go
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  Speaker 3: into it. But here's what they did. Took the dead
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  Speaker 3: cap money, knew they didn't have that. The money they
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  Speaker 3: did have, what did they do with it? They spent
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  Speaker 3: it on the trenches. Because you know what has worked
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  Speaker 3: in football for 70 years? If your offensive line and
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  Speaker 3: defensive line is good, your team's good. That's it. If
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  Speaker 3: you can win up front on both sides of the football,
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  Speaker 3: you're going to have a good football team. And number two,
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  Speaker 3: what did they do? They got the quarterback right. To
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  Speaker 3: their credit, they went out and people laughed at them.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't a huge fan of the pick when they
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  Speaker 3: first made it. I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 4: But they could have taken McCarthy. And then look where
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  Speaker 4: they're at.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what they did on the offensive and
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  Speaker 3: defensive line. McCarthy stinks.
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  Speaker 5: To me, this comp between the Broncos and Dolphins, where
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  Speaker 5: the Dolphins are going, it shows you how important and
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  Speaker 5: how vital that quarterback role is. As soon as Tua
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  Speaker 5: started getting concussions.
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  Speaker 3: It was over there. It was over.
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  Speaker 5: He just wasn't the same quarterback. The Broncos found theirs,
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  Speaker 5: and they ascended.
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  Speaker 3: But it really is. It hinges on that position, man.
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  Speaker 3: That position is it. And if you don't have that
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  Speaker 3: position fortified, you're just running in place. You're wasting time.
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  Speaker 3: So they had $ 181. 6 million in dead cap. They're paying
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  Speaker 3: to players that are not on the roster. The Broncos
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  Speaker 3: did that for a minute. Not quite to that extent.
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  Speaker 3: But they paid a lot of money to guys who
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  Speaker 3: weren't on the roster. What do you think the Broncos
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  Speaker 3: are doing now? How much money is in dead cap
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  Speaker 3: this year?
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  Speaker 4: Not very much at all.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they've got some Dre Greenlaw dead cap money.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit of that. That's about it, I think.
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  Speaker 3: So I'll say $ 3 million. Who else?
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  Speaker 4: Because the retention has been remarkable.
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  Speaker 3: It's $ 5. 9 million.
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  Speaker 4: Which is nothing in today's NFL.
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  Speaker 3: No, no. It's the least in the league, actually.
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  Speaker 4: It's nothing.
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  Speaker 3: The least. And that... Goes to another point. The reason
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  Speaker 3: you lose a guy like Justin Jolie or whatever is
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  Speaker 3: because you have guys that you like. You aren't cutting people.
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  Speaker 3: You aren't paying people to walk away from your roster.
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  Speaker 3: You're paying people to stay because it's good. Like everything
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  Speaker 3: about this is a giant to me, pat on the
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  Speaker 3: back to what the Broncos have accomplished over the last
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  Speaker 3: few years from a strictly roster construction standpoint. I will
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  Speaker 3: say this.
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  Speaker 4: I have no affinity for the Miami Dolphins. I like
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  Speaker 4: that old Dolphin with the football helmet on, on the
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  Speaker 4: side of their helmet.
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  Speaker 3: I love the uniforms. Yeah. I like that. Always have.
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  Speaker 4: I like the old Dolphin. Now they got this angry,
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  Speaker 4: pissed off, flipper looking thing. But I like the old Dolphin.
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  Speaker 4: So there's my affinity for the Miami Dolphins. But I
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  Speaker 4: will say this. And I agreed with it when the
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  Speaker 4: Broncos did it. If you're going to do it, then
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  Speaker 4: do it right now.
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Don't waste another day of screwing around. Make the decision
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  Speaker 4: and be done and start your rebuild or whatever you
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  Speaker 4: want to call it. I was happy when the Broncos said,
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  Speaker 4: all right, enough of this rust crap.
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  Speaker 3: We are done. You know what's amazing, though? Like, very clearly,
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  Speaker 3: the Dolphins are in a rebuild. How did the Broncos
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  Speaker 3: pull that off without doing a rebuild? How'd they pull off...
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  Speaker 3: Doing that, cutting, you know. Well, I'll tell you how.
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  Speaker 3: $ 50 and $ 85 million in dead cap and then making
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs the next year. I'll tell you how. There's
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  Speaker 3: only one way to do it. Find your quarterback who's
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  Speaker 3: on a rookie contract who can play. That's it. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: That's the end. Still. The end.
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  Speaker 4: That's not.
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  Speaker 3: I want to end the show. I want the show
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  Speaker 3: to end. I want that to be the final thing
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  Speaker 3: said on the show today.
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  Speaker 4: That's not it, though. That's not it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, it is it.
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  Speaker 4: No, that is not it's it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, it's it. Fortify your defense.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot of it. It's a lot of it. No, no,
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  Speaker 4: it's a huge thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's a huge thing.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot of it. It's not the only thing,
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  Speaker 4: but it's a lot of it.
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  Speaker 3: Fortify your defense. Your defense has to be very, very,
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  Speaker 3: very strong.
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  Speaker 5: And they had turnover defense-wise.
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  Speaker 3: And then they got Vance Joseph in here. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: the defense was solid as a rock.
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  Speaker 5: But then they found the replacement and they paid him
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  Speaker 5: nothing because he's a rookie replacement.
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  Speaker 3: That is true. Now let's end the show. But all
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  Speaker 3: I was saying was, Bo Nix wasn't throwing 50 touchdowns
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  Speaker 3: his rookie year, was all I was saying. There are
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  Speaker 3: some other factors in this. But it is, I, seriously.
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  Speaker 3: When I first saw Justin Jolie picked up off waivers,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, damn. And then I looked at
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  Speaker 3: what the Dolphins did. I go, oh, if you had
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  Speaker 3: anybody that you cut, the Dolphins were taking somebody from
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  Speaker 3: your roster.
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  Speaker 4: I'm telling you, man.
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  Speaker 3: They watched their own training camp for months. And they
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  Speaker 3: watched tape of these players for 30 minutes. And they said,
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  Speaker 3: way better than what we have. I've seen way too
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  Speaker 3: much of our team. Way better. And cheaper.
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  Speaker 4: And I would argue to you that every single one
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  Speaker 4: of those guys that was claimed is probably thankful. You
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  Speaker 4: know why? Because they got a good shot at a
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  Speaker 4: job now.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: To prove their wares in a 1-2 win season max,
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  Speaker 4: they have an opportunity at least to show that they
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  Speaker 4: can play the game.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Miami's out there shopping for 5th and 7th rounders, okay?
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  Speaker 3: They're not paying them anything. That's exactly what they're doing
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  Speaker 3: because they owe so much money. I understand they're shopping
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  Speaker 3: for 5th and 7th rounders, but they shopped for 5th
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  Speaker 3: and 7th rounders and said, This guy is so much
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  Speaker 3: better than what I watched in camp all year. That's
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  Speaker 3: what blows me away. Seven dudes off of waivers?
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  Speaker 4: Do you know anything about Jeff Halfley other than the
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  Speaker 4: owner forgot his name?
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  Speaker 3: No, not a thing.
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  Speaker 4: I don't either. So I'm wondering what....
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  Speaker 3: Jeff. How did we not know that the Dolphins season
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  Speaker 3: was going to go exactly like this to this point
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  Speaker 3: when that was the introduction? That being said.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know this guy's mannerisms, but, man, there's going
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  Speaker 4: to be a camera on his face all season long.
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  Speaker 4: We get to week 12. In fact, that's what I
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  Speaker 4: want to do. I want to take a picture of
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  Speaker 4: this dude's face at kickoff of week one and then
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  Speaker 4: a picture of his face week 12. He's going to
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  Speaker 4: age like a president. Like a World War II soldier.
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  Speaker 4: I want to see the wear and tear on this
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  Speaker 4: guy's face.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, hang on, hang on. I got one question real quick.
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  Speaker 3: I in one fantasy league every year and I was
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  Speaker 3: doing the draft last night. I was trying to find
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  Speaker 3: a backup quarterback. And I thought about Malik Willis. Like
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  Speaker 3: you can run a little bit. Maybe it'll work. I
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  Speaker 3: challenge you to name a single wide receiver for the Miami.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know any of them.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, there's another Malik. I know there's another Malik.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Am I right?
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  Speaker 4: Tell me I'm right.
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  Speaker 3: Name a single wide receiver from the Miami Bulls. I
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  Speaker 3: know who it is. In fact, look, I got nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Chester McFarlane.
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  Speaker 4: Malik Washington. Malik Washington.
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  Speaker 3: Malik Washington is one of the. How the hell did
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  Speaker 3: you know that? I was watching. Gold star.
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  Speaker 4: One of these NFL Network training camp visits or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: And they were talking about guys. And I remember they
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  Speaker 4: got a quarterback named Malik. And they have a wide
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  Speaker 4: receiver named Malik. That's a Malik to Malik combo there.
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  Speaker 3: Greg Dulcich is their starting tight end, by the way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're going to suck.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to feign giddiness about Miami and the Dolphins.
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  Speaker 5: I woke up to something because I fell asleep last night.
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  Speaker 5: There was a little rain delay.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see how the Rockies lost at home last night? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to that in a second. Not yeah. Not yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It was one of the most amazing catches to save
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  Speaker 5: a game I have ever seen.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I do want to get to that in just a
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  Speaker 3: second because we have audio of that plus something you're
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  Speaker 3: going to hate that was said after the game, Vic,
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  Speaker 3: by the Orioles manager. Yeah, you know what? Did the
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  Speaker 3: Orioles manager say, we got goalied? No, he did not.
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  Speaker 3: But we'll get to that in just a second along
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  Speaker 3: with some audio from Kel McCarr's pressure yesterday as well.
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  Speaker 3: Stick around. Talk it over. All right, so here's a problem.
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  Speaker 3: Up until recently... The Rockies looked like they were on
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  Speaker 3: pace to, I don't want to say easily, but decently
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  Speaker 3: comfortably clear the 100 loss mark of the year. And
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  Speaker 3: we were talking about this yesterday, and I said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's like a football team that's been bad for a
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  Speaker 3: long time. If they go 8-9 or 9-8 and they
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  Speaker 3: miss the playoffs, is it really that different? No, but
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  Speaker 3: there's something about like, hey, we were above 500. They
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  Speaker 3: can maybe get you the arrow point in the right direction.
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  Speaker 3: the Rockies losing 99 games or a hundred games. Is
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  Speaker 3: it really a difference? No, but it does make it.
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  Speaker 3: There's a different thing to losing 99 as opposed to psychological.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I disagree with you entirely, but whatever. Um, you're bad.
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  Speaker 3: You're bad. You're bad. There's no, it's me. Bad is bad.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, well again, it's whatever.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Then we just, I think there's something psychologically about not
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: losing 100 games that just feels better. It doesn't mean
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: anything different. It just feels better. Okay. It looked like
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: they were going to avoid that. And then they lost
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: seven games in a row before winning two against the
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Nationals and now have lost five in a row. And
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: ten in a row at home. The last three in
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: brutal fashion. They've lost three straight games by one run.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: They lost... in 10 innings against Atlanta the game before this.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: And then last night, they play Baltimore. I turned the
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: game on, and right when I turned the game on,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: the tarp was coming out. I go, all right, I
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: don't know how long this is going to last. Don't
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: got time for this. You see that kid who got
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: eaten by the tarp? I like that.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Once a season, I'm always good for watching a guy
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: fall and get swallowed.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Up by the tarp. Yeah. So that rain delay, it
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: lasts for a while. They come back, and the Rockies
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: got a shot in the bottom of the ninth to
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: try and even things out.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: They're down one.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: And the one guy that I think you want at
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: the plate right now with pressure on the line, Jake
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: McCarthy's been clutch all year. All year. You put him
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: late in the game. He's very fun to watch. He's fast.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: He's a gamer. He's just a gamer.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm saying this.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Me, the pessimist.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: The whole outfield is fun to watch.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: The whole outfield. But he's been in clutch situations. McCarthy's
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: been great all year. And he hits a ball 425 feet.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Should be walk-off-Homer territory.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Everybody's happy. And... Go, go, go!
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Fly ball, deep center field.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Going back. Callouser still going back.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Leaps. He caught it. My goodness! That went.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: From a winger to the most painful loss in a while.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: That thud that you heard, by the way, was his
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: back crashing at full speed against the fence as Colton
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Couser leaps up and makes, I mean, it really is
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: one of the most remarkable game-saving catches I've seen. Full speed,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: crash against the wall, glove all the way over the
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: top of the fence, rips it back.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: But it was.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: The longest distance of a game-ending robbery of potential walk-off
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: homers since the 1995 season.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: And the loudest, too. I've never heard a thud like
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: that with a guy just hanging on the wall.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, that would have been.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: What a walk-off opportunity it would have been for McCarthy.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: And they were ready to party at home plate. And instead,
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: this dude goes up and gets it the way he did?
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: This is how the Orioles TV call sounded, by the way.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Make your pitches, but know where to miss. McCarthy deep
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: center field.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Couser racing back. Couser near the wall.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Jumps.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Couser.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: He made the catch. He made the catch. It would
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: be the greatest home run robbery.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: Game ending.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Catch you'll see in your life.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: You've got to be kidding.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Me unbelievable.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: The Orioles win it they are 500 for the first
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: time in four.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Months by the way If you want to know what
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: this means for the Orioles, so they get to 500
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: for the first time in whatever he said, months, they're
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: a half game back of a wild card.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Like, they're right in the thick of a race. They
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: need to win.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: They're right there with Cleveland. Yeah. But I.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: By the way, why don't... Why don't the visitors have
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: the same mic effects as the home team?
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Was that the... Oh, that was their TV call.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Good question. Because.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: They are 500!
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you during.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Avalanche games there's a feed of the effects mics that
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: you just take correct the fact that you couldn't hear
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: cows or bang the wall on their broadcast scratching my
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: head a little bit on that that is weird did
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: you notice too by the way motion notice different things
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: when you're in the television business i don't know when
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: they started using this because i haven't watched as many
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: games this year but i think are they using sky
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: cam at gores fields Skycam has become a thing. We
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: obviously were the first to do it inside an arena
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: with the avalanche.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Are they doing that at the, at Coors though? Because
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: some of the angles that they're using are beautiful. I
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: haven't seen them before. Like a ball is hit to
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: right field and you have a camera now behind that
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: play that captures the runners running. As you're seeing the
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: ball come in, it's something you don't get used to seeing.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: It's really cool.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Pretty awesome. Um, This is the thing that I think
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: is going to make you mad. Maybe it won't. I
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: wasn't that bothered by it. Nelly was like the one
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: that was pissed when he heard this. So this is
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Orioles manager Craig Abernathy after the game. Crowd was unbelievable.
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: It's our fans. They've been great all year, especially on
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: the road. We travel well and we hear them. And
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: today in particular, absolutely. Like there was a lot of contingency.
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: We heard him. We heard him during BP, which was awesome.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: We heard them throughout the game, and obviously the long
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: rain delay, them sticking around. When we came back out
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: for the sixth, it was rocking pretty good with just
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: those fans.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: It was awesome. By the way, Albernathy, not Albernathy, my bad. Wait, what?
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I was going to correct you.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: There are Baltimore Orioles fans that travel. This is where
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: I get pissed off with Nelly. I completely agree with
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Steve Nelson's take on this. I don't know an Orioles fan.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I've never met an Orioles fan. I've never met one.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: In the history of fans.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: I didn't know they existed.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: And with God as my witness, I've never met a
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Baltimore Orioles fan in my entire life.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: I was as a kid. I was as a kid. Yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: shut up. I like Cal Ripken. I like Cal Ripken.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about an authentic Baltimore Orioles fan. Show yourself
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: on this radio show.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: If you're one, show yourself. Call in, chime in, text in,
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: show me, prove it. I have never physically met one
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: in my life.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Some blue crab eating, Edgar Allen Poe loving Orioles fan.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: You find me.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, find me one.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I've met, listen, I've met Baltimore Ravens fans. So have I.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Many of them too.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: I've never once met an Orioles fan. I guarantee they
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: don't exist. Our crowd travels so good, we're badass. Shut up.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: You're the frigging Orioles. You're an afterthought.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Now, you know what?
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I hope you don't make it. Screw you.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: They are 500. So what?
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Orioles have been pretty good lately. Screw them.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Nelly, I'm with you.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, our guys travel so good all over this whole world.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: We played a series in Australia.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: It was loaded with Orioles fans. My ass. That's a lie.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: You're lying, Albert. Whatever. Albert and Albernaz. Whatever. Bogdan, Bogdan,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Big Don, Bagdon. I want to put this guy on
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: the list. Tamadio from Kel McCarr's presser yesterday.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Is that too harsh?
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: I just don't know why it got you that fired up.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Because I don't know of an Orioles fan. I don't know...
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: if they have one that fogs a mirror. There may
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: be some dead ones.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I like the Orioles. I went to Camden Yards. Camden
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Yards is great.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I've been there before, too. Not during the game, just
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: walked around the outside.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: I do like, Moj, and I know you respect this,
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: I do like the Baltimore Orioles logo, always have.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: It's very unique. A little birdie. Yeah, it's just very unique.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: The color scheme, everything about it. Is there a more...
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: What's the turn outside of Cal Ripken?
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: Is there a more beleaguered franchise stuck in the division
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: they play in where they can never do much? I mean,
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: occasionally once every decade, they'll, they'll show up and say, Hey,
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: we still live here.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Other than that, what a waste of time.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: It's a total, it's a total arms race in that division.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: It's like four of the last five years over the
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: course of history, over the course of history, they're stuck
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: in the toughest division.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: And they just show up every once a decade and say, Hey,
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Remember us?
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: And that's it. That's what they do. That's Baltimore Orioles.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: I love their team from like the 2010s. Chris Davis
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: and Adam Jones. Okay, I'll move on. Hey, listen. You
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: don't need to move on. You don't remember Matt Wieters?
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Jim Palmer's not walking through that door.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: You mean to tell me this manager says into an
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: open mic, all our fans showed out last night.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: What? Who?
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Who in Denver is a Baltimore Orioles fan?
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Who?
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Show yourself right now. They were cheering in that clip
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: you heard.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Who are you?
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Who are you? I want to know who you are.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Brooks Robinson. Let's go. Who are you?
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Let's go.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Who are you?
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Do we have a big Baltimore contingent in Commerce City?
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Where are you? Who are you?
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Eddie Murray ain't walking through that door. Frank Robinson ain't
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: walking through that door. Brooks Robinson ain't walking through that door.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Earl Weaver ain't walking through that door.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: I don't think you guys understand. The Orioles have been
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: a good baseball team for like five straight years. They
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: had one like bad year. They won their division. They
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: won the division a couple years ago. They won 100 games.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Nobody cares. Well, I just don't think you knew that.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I don't care. Okay. Anywho, yesterday at the Kale McCarr Presser,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: there's a question, and maybe we could spend more time
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: on this, but Nellie, this is from Sean Keeler, and
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: this is nothing against Sean. I mean, he's just asking
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: a question that I've heard a lot of Avs fans
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: sort of echo, but this is something that's been said
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: multiple times since we found out what the actual numbers
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: were from the Kel McCarr contract. Go ahead. Oh, I
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: got it. I got it, Nellie. I got it. I
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: got it. Joe, what do you say to fans and
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: online experts who will say top-heavy teams don't win as
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: many cups as balanced teams?
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: You get that a lot.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Maybe you hear that, too.
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: Probably disagree with that statement. You can't win without superstars. Yeah,
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: you need depth. You need your team playing really well
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: at the right time. When it comes to playoffs, you
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: need bounces, but you need your players to be healthy.
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: We ran into an injury bug a little bit last year,
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: especially with Cale. We had a bad week that costed us,
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: but we had a team that was... built to win.
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: It didn't happen. And we expect our team to be
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: built to win for a long time. But you can't,
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: unless you have guys like KL and Nate on your team,
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: it makes it a lot harder.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: So here's my question. The Nuggets we've had conversations, they're
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: top heavy. They have a huge portion of their cap
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: allocated to basically four players and nobody else makes money
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: beyond that, right? That's how the roster is set up.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Are the Avs really top-heavy? Like, let me ask you
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: a question. Nathan McKinnon making $ 12. 6 million per year through
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: 2031 is not top-heavy. That's a steal. It is. That's
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: a steal of a contract.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Cale is making a lot of money.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Yes, he is.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: But... What's your alternative? Hold on a second. Go through
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: some of the, you have the, you have the salary.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Marty nachos.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: 11 and a half.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Again, Vic in, in a couple of years when that
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: cap is up, up, these are going to look like
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: very good deals.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Even, even, even kale's deal.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: And he admitted it yesterday that he's going to be
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: surpassed by the end of it. I think it's going
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: to look like a terrific deal.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Keep going. Uh, Maybe Gabe. Gabe's pretty steep at 7.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: At 7, right? At 7, that's through 2029. Nas? Nas
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: is at 5.6. Okay. Brock? Brock. Where'd he go? He's
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: at 7.5.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: So, these guys are getting paid.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Tate is at 7.2. These guys are getting paid. Malinsky's
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: at 4.7. Kulak's at 4.5. Manson at 4. Like, that
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: doesn't seem very top-heavy to me. It seems like a
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: pretty well-balanced roster with one guy who's a Hall of
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Famer who just got paid at the right time. I
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: And you would like to draft and develop your own
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: guys as well to start filtering into the lineup at
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: some point. That's important. But I loved what Joe said yesterday.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Did you guys watch or listen to the entire news conference?
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Because I was there. Didn't see him.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you, you know, maybe you're in
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: the back.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: I was not there.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Okay. Fact of the matter is, though, is that I
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: love a Joe Sackick news conference because he just tells
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: you the truth. Tells you the truth. And he made
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: a very good point. It was a great line when
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: he said, look.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: You've got to have these guys. It's a lot easier
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: To have these guys and then put guys around him
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: than it is to have guys around him and try
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: to go find these guys someplace else. He's absolutely right
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: about that. So when you got him, you hang on
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: to him, which is why Billy Guerin gave Kaprizov $ 17
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: million a year to start this whole thing off.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Here's what I just don't get. What was the alternative?
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Can you have teams as top-heavy?
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: So don't pay Gale?
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: That's the only other option you have here. You can't
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: nickel and dime Cal McCarr. No, you don't.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: You know, I expected Joe when this thing opened up.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Another question was asked, and Vic, I just expected him
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: to say something like this. Look, in fact, I almost
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: asked the question, but because I do what I do,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I just sit in the back and I listen. It's
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: the biggest no-brainer I've had since I've been running this franchise.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, you pay the Hall of Famer.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: That's what you do.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: And you don't... You pay the best defenseman on the planet,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: you pay him.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: It's not a negotiation. You're over a barrel. You just say, whatever.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Whatever you need, take. Take the money.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Take the money, all the money. That's pretty much it.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Let me just ask this again. What do you say
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: to the fans that are concerned the team is too top-heavy?
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: What do you suggest we do? Is it not pay
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Kael McCarr? Because if that's your suggestion, you're stupid. Okay?
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: There's no other way to.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: I don't think he was saying that. I think he
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: was trying to get a reaction out of Joseph.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that to Keeler. I've seen Avs fans
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: say it, but I'm just, in general, what's your other thing?
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: The only other thing is you don't pay him. And
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: then what? You don't have Hall of Famer on your
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: roster anymore. That seems stupid.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: He also alluded in a very small way to what
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: I've been talking about for months.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: In that clip. Would you like to.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: You want to play find the alluding?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Nelly, I guess you can do that. I don't want
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: to run it from here again. Okay.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Go ahead and play it again, Stephen.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Just start it with sacking. Again, this is the last
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I'll talk about it.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: This is the final salve on the wound.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: I probably disagree with that statement. You can't win without superstars. Yeah,
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: you need depth. You need your team playing really well
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: at the right time. When it comes to playoffs, you
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: need bounces, but you need your players to be healthy.
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: We ran into an injury bug a little bit last year,
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: especially with Cale.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Is that it?
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: We had a bad week that costed us a lot.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Stop, stop, stop, stop.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Playoff time, you need your big guns to be healthy.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: We ran into the injury bug a little bit. That's
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: the first time he's really alluded, and Cale did yesterday
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: as well, alluded to what the hell was going on
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: against Vegas.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: It was a bad week.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: You had some dudes that you'll never know about dealing
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: with some pretty significant crap. And you had Carter Hart...
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: have the week of his life which he will never
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: be able to replicate again. That's why you lost to Vegas,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: and that's why you got swept. And you also didn't
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: play well at times, that's true, but if you weren't
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: dealing with all of these other things, you might have
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: been able to overcome that, at least for some games.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: More audio of this in just a bit. 303-504-0925, back
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: after this. He made the catch! They are 500! You
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: guys have the worst record in the NBA.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Cool.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Hey, Vic, what do you know about the legal system? What?
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: What do you know about the legal system?
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Well, I need to know more, which is why I've
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: always advocated on this show that at one point in
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: your life, whether you're clean or not, and let's say
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: you're just a clean person and you never do anything
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: wrong criminally, I think from a radio talk show perspective,
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: one of us should be arrested and serve some jail
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: time and go through the process just to know what
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: it's like, to experience it, to feel it, to understand it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: It's really the only way. It's like jury duty, right?
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: You really don't know what civic duty you bring to
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: the table until you go experience some jury duty.
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  Speaker 3: You're there. If we're not going to get arrested, what
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: are we doing?
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: We're wasting everyone's time. I can see it now, though, Vic.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: If there was a vote on who on this program
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: should get arrested, and I'd choose Nelly, he probably would
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: survive the best because he can play his flute for
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: the other inmates.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: But I would think that I would be....
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I would think that I would be the one voted
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: to get arrested for something.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Hang on a second, hang on a second. Well, you're
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: the one most likely. Just wait a minute, wait a minute.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I just was trying to visualize Nelly in an orange jumpsuit,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: and where my head went was, would the most shocking
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: thing in the world be like if Nelly went to
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: jail for some flute-related offense? He hit somebody with it.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: And then I went in for some offense. And I
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: walk in.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: To that, that, why am I blanking on what they
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: call it? The common area. There's a word for it,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: whatever that is. And Nelly is running the jail. What
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: if he was just, what if he was the pit boss?
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: The pit boss of the jail. It would be the
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: most shocking thing in the world. Like he's ordering around
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: like guys who are 6'5, 280 pounds, like clean that
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: table over there. Listen.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: We've already established how popular this show is in jailhouses
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: across the country. I mean, we've had several already chime in.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: There's no reason that one of us couldn't spend, and
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: I'm not talking about an excessive.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Amount of time, you know, 30 days.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: 30 days in jail somewhere. That way you know what
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: it's like on the other side.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: There's a show called 60 Days In.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: It's a good show.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I can read a book.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: I can watch TV shows about it. I don't really
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: need to live it.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: When you opened this segment, Brett came by asking me,
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: what do you know about crime and jail?
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I know nothing. I wish I knew more because I
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: haven't experienced enough of it. Okay. I need to get arrested. Well,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I asked that question initially to say that Jonathan Cooper
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: has pled not guilty to all charges. Now he will
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: have a trial that's set for November 10th, 12th, and 13th.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Here's what I don't understand. I sure says Nelly with
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: a teardrop tattoo. Here's what I don't understand. I don't understand.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: You're on the commissioner's exempt list. So you're waiting for
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: the league to take action. But you do have a
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: court case that's coming. Can the league suspend you despite
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: not having the court case or keep you out of
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: games despite not having a court case?
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: And then because if that's if that's going to be
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: what happens. Jonathan Cooper's trial is not until after week
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: nine of the season when the Broncos head into a
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: bye week. So that will effectively act as a more
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: than half the season suspension before we get an answer.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: The league can do whatever it wants to do.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Even if the case is dismissed, the league can take action.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But would they do that? I mean, could they
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: reinstall him now and say, I will deal with it
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: when we get to week nine?
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: That I don't know.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm wondering.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Are you potentially missing Jonathan Cooper for the first nine
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: games of the season?
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: That's going to be hairy.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: And that's just to say, like most, this is going
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: to be a jury trial. If he's found guilty, he's
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: probably going to jail. Wow. You know what I mean?
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: I almost think as the Broncos, you need to operate
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: this year essentially as if he's on season-ending IR. And
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: if you get him back, then great. But you have
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: to be like, hey, Jonah Coleman, Q Robinson, your job.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: This is your job.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: So it's a felony charge. It's not even like a misdemeanor.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: It's a felony. That's what I'm saying. If he's guilty
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: of this, that is jail time. And he, again, I
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: wasn't there. Prison time. Yeah, I don't know what happened.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know what went down.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know. But the charges are not going.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Away as of right now.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: And the felony charge stems, he was arrested twice. That
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: was second degree assault by strangulation.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: And then he violated that restraining order, the no contact,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: no contact order, which let's be honest, all of these
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: charges are bad. The, the simply dumbest one that you
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: could do is just, Hey, don't contact her. And then
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: like a day later you show up knocking on the door. Allegedly.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Allegedly.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Um, I just... Well, I don't... It's... I don't
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: know if that's... Is that one allegedly? Like, it's pretty simple.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Either you did it or you didn't. I always say allegedly.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: I understand, but it's like, if you're seen at the
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: person's residence.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Well, okay, here's... Okay, here's... You know? Here's what I
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: won't say. Hitler allegedly invaded Poland in 1939.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, yeah, he did.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Got it.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Okay, so, yeah, I mean, I.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Look, I.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: All I'm saying is, I think as a roster, though, Moshe,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: you just need to operate as if he's not going
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: to play for you, and if you do get him back,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: then it's a bonus. That's the way you got to
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: look at it.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: You know who's really good at that is Jared Bednar.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: He's like, look, this guy's hurt.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Right now, he's not dead to me, but he doesn't
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: exist in my mind because we have to win hockey games, right?
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: If you're Sean Payton and company, he's not dead to you,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: but you need to win games, and you're going to
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: have to find a rotation to take his snaps that
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: are going to be effective. And I think they have
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: effective players behind him, but Jonathan Ku is your starter
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: for a reason. He's the other best getting to the
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: quarterback guy on your team, essentially from the outside, after
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: Nick Benito.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I just got a text from Andy saying, Legge addressed
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: this on Crackman Lindahl yesterday. Can you try and find
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: that for me? Yeah, let's find that and see what
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: he said, because... There are so many different ways.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Jeff didn't go to law school. Jeff doesn't know. Does
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: he know about the law?
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean, he's been around these cases before.
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: There's so many different ways.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I know this for a fact. The NFL.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: Looks at what the case, what happens with this case,
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: but they do their own investigation. All right? They have
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: their own people. There are people that work for the
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: Denver Broncos. There are security people in the Broncos franchise
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: that report to the NFL.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: They have their own evidence.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: And the NFL makes its own decision, not even based
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: on the criminal decision. And as for the texter who said, Vic,
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: you wouldn't last 30 minutes in jail.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. You know what jail is?
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: Jail is going out to dinner with my wife and
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: her two sisters, who when they're ordering off the menu,
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: they take forever. And they're very nitpicky and detailed, and
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: they don't like this, and they take it back. And
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: you're sitting there, and you just want to pull your
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: hair out. You just want to run as far.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: As– that's jail.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: I will take a broken-down jail cell over that situation
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: any day.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Of the week. Right to jail. Right away. I don't
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: think you would. Probably not, but I wanted to make
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: an example. Here's the other thing, and I do think
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: that this part is, I guess, an interesting side story
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: to it. I mentioned this from the second this news
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: broke that Cooper was in some sort of legal trouble.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Like the first day it came out, you didn't really
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: know what was going on. My concern all camp mosh,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: how many times did I say this? When you're looking
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: at the Broncos schedule, you see the first six games
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: of the year very difficult. You're also looking at the
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: AFC as a whole saying, well, there's going to be
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: a bunch of teams with pretty good quarterback play and
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: pretty good rosters competing for these spots, right? The Broncos
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: might have the exact same level of season with a
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: much worse record than last year because 14 wins is hard.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: But when you eliminate, maybe not eliminate, but at least
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: pare down the greatest superpower your team has, which is
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: a historically great pass rush over the last two years.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: One to be feared.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: And you lose John Franklin Myers in the offseason, and
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: potentially Jonathan Cooper for a lengthy amount of time this year,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: that's a giant blow to the thing that you did
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: best and you relied upon to win your football games.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: If you go back, Vic, and you watch Broncos film
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: from last season, and you watch JFM and Zach Allen wrecking,
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: and I mean wrecking the interior of an offensive line.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Wrecking.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not saying that Benito ain't a terrific
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: pass rusher because he is. I'm not saying Cooper ain't
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: a terrific pass rusher.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Because he is.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: But those guys would wreck the interior of an offensive line.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: And I don't know that when he left, I'm like, okay,
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: I know it's going to look different. It likely will,
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: but how different will it look? Then you compound the
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: issue with this.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: And God forbid you suffer some sort of injury or
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: something like that too.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Mamma mia.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: No, it has.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Something that's been so strong for this team. Man, it
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: just feels like it has the ability to crash.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Out pretty quick. I don't know, dude. Here's how I
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: look at it. Vic, am I too paranoid?
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think everybody's expecting maybe a fall back down
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: to earth season. And I look at it a little differently.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: The Broncos defense was downright dominant at times. And I
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: know things got heavy at.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: The end of the season.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: But the defense survived an entire year playing great statistical D.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: And one item they didn't, they didn't turn the ball over.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: I think once they start generating turnovers, which a lot
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: of it is just fortune, just think how much better
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: they can be.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: Think about, you know, like how many interceptions and fumbles
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: forced and all that. That's something they didn't do very
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: well last year. And they were still dominant. Think about
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: that for a second.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: That's what's so.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: You know what? Save this for a second because, Vic,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: you just hit on something that I think is.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: A really important detail as we approach the first game
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: of the year here in a couple of weeks. 303-504-0925.
• 44:06
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• 44:35
  Speaker 3: So I want to get back to this in just
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: a second. That sounds good.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: That sounds good.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: You hit on something. Yes, Moshe. Why you wizard fingers?
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Because these Orioles fans who took offense to me a
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: little bit earlier, all six of you that exist on
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: the planet, if you were there last night, you're banned.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: You cannot participate.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: In fact, I'll take it a step further. Sure.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: Outside of Carmelo Anthony, I've never met another human being
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: from the city of Baltimore.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Ever. You know what? I've never come across anybody from Baltimore.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know that I have either.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Famous Orioles fans.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: Elaine Bennis.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Joan Jett. Michael Phelps. Billy Bob Thornton. By the way,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Billy Bob.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: What?
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: What's going on with Billy Bob?
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: He's great in Landman.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: He's an amazing actor. I mean, he is great in Landman.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: I can't watch Landman because the one scene that I
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: saw on Twitter that somebody clipped out was like a
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: super cut of him saying really weird things to his daughter.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: And I was like, you know what? This is a
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: little out there for me. Wait, you've never seen Landman?
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: You're missing out. It's great. It's great. I've heard. It's
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: a great series. It's a little bit much on the,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: you know... Gratuitous language of.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: You know, that's a typical....
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: The guy who does Lion Man does Yellowstone, and he's
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: doing Lioness, and a lot of gratuitous stuff just for
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: the television audience.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: That's unnecessary. Vic, somebody asked if Tim Conley is from Baltimore.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: That's the second person I've met from Baltimore. Those are two.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: That's two. That's two people I've met from Baltimore. Anyway,
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: I want to get back to what Vic was talking
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: about here in just a second with the Broncos and
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: some oddities that could flip in their favor next year.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: We'll get to it next.