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Learn Anything, Build Anything, and the AI Barrier That Isn’t Real - With Navarrow Wright · Chaos Agents

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  We're
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  all
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  on
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  the
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  get
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  rich
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  quick
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  use
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  case.
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  The
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  have
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  20
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  employees
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  use
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  case.
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  How
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  about
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  the.
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  You
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  don't
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  have
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  to
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  be
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  ashamed
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  about
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  your
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  learning
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  style
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  use
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  case.
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  Or
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  you
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  can
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  go
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  learn
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  anything
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  without
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  a
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  financial
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  barrier.
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  To
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  me,
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  those
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  are
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  the
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  conversations
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  that
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  we
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  need
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  to
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  have,
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  and
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  I
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  think
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  we'll
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  enable
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  new
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  types
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  of
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  entrepreneurs.
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  Hello.
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  Hey,
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  what's
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  up?
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  Welcome
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  back.
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  I'm
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  Sarah.
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  I'm
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  Becca.
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  And
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  welcome
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  back
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  to
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  Chaos
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  Agents,
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  the
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  podcast
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  where
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  we
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  learn
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  about
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  AI
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  so
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  you
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  don't
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  have
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  to.
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  How's
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  your
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  life?
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  Life
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  is
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  good.
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  Life
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  is
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  lifing.
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  Yeah.
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  Can
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  we
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  say
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  this
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  on
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  the
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  pod
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  that
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  we're
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  both
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  expecting
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  little
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  ones?
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  Yes.
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  Crazy.
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  I
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  don't
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  think
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  we've
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  said
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  that.
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  Two
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  tiny
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  Chaos
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  Agents
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  are
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  about
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  to
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  come
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  into
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  the
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  world.
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  Two
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  literal
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  agents
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  of
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  chaos.
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  And
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  Sarah
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  and
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  I
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  are
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  so
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  excited.
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  Yeah.
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  What's
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  the
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  last
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  thing
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  you
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  did
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  to
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  prep?
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  Mm.
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  The
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  main
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  thing
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  I'm
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  doing
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  right
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  now
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  to
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  prep
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  is
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  training
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  my
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  dog
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  to
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  prepare
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  him
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  for
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  baby.
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  What
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  are
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  you
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  training
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  your
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  dog
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  to
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  do?
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  Okay,
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  so
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  there's,
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  like,
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  this
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  cool
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  course
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  called
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  Dog
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  Meets
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  Baby
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  that
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  this
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  trainer
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  put
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  together.
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  So
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  there's
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  stuff
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  you
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  do,
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  like,
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  take
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  him
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  for
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  walks
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  with
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  the
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  stroller
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  now
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  so
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  he
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  gets,
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  like,
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  used
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  to
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  it.
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  Or,
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  like,
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  if
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  there's,
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  like,
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  a
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  bouncer
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  that,
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  like,
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  goes,
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  like
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  this
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  and
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  makes
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  noise,
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  put.
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  Put
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  that
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  around
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  him
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  so
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  he
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  gets
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  desensitized
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  to
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  it.
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  Yeah.
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  The
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  thing
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  we've
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  been
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  working
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  on
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  right
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  now
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  are
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  baby
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  noises.
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  So
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  what
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  you
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  do.
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  Basically,
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  this
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  same
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  trainer
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  has
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  a
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  library
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  of
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  baby
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  noises,
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  and
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  you
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  start
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  by,
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  like,
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  playing
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  them
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  on
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  low
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  volume
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  and,
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  like,
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  giving
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  him
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  treats
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  so
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  he,
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  like,
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  starts
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  to
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  associate.
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  Oh,
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  this
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  cry
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  is,
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  like,
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  a
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  good
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  thing.
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  And
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  then
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  you
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  slowly
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  start
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  increasing
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  the
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  volume,
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  and
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  then
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  you,
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  like,
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  just
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  kind
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  of
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  do
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  more
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  of
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  that
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  over
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  time,
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  and
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  then
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  hopefully
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  that
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  works
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  and
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  crazy.
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  Yeah,
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  it's
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  a
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  lot.
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  That's
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  cool.
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  I
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  wonder
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  if
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  there's
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  one
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  for
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  cats
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  juice.
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  Your
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  cats
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  will
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  go
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  from
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  not
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  caring
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  to
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  not
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  caring.
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  I
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  was
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  going
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  to
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  say,
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  like,
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  I
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  cannot
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  wait
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  to
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  see
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  how
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  the
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  cats
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  react
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  to
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  baby.
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  What
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  was
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  the
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  last
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  thing
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  you
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  did
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  to
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  prep?
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  The
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  thing
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  that
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  we
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  do
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  to
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  prepare.
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  We've
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  been
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  doing
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  this
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  for,
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  like,
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  a
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  year
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  and
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  a
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  half
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  because
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  we've
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  heard
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  that
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  there's
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  a
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  lot
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  of,
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  like,
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  things
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  that
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  are,
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  like,
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  rote
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  and
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  boring
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  when
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  there's
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  babies.
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  Like,
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  you
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  have
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  to
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  play
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  for
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  hours,
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  and
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  it's
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  just,
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  like,
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  not,
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  like,
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  you
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  probably
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  pick
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  watching
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  a
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  YouTube
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  video
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  instead,
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  but
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  instead
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  you're
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  just,
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  like,
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  sitting
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  there.
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  So
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  every
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  night
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  we've
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  started
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  for
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  30
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  minutes
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  playing
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  with
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  our
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  cats.
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  Just
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  like
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  30
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  minutes
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  of
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  solid
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  cat
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  play.
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  So
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  I
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  think
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  we've
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  just,
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  like,
• 2:41
  added
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  this
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  new
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  thing
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  to
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  our
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  life
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  because
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  I
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  don't
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  think
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  it
• 2:43
  can
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  go
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  away
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  when
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  the
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  baby
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  comes.
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  So
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  I
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  think
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  we
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  have
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  the
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  scheduled
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  play
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  every
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  night
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  with
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  the
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  guy.
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  We're
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  gonna
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  be
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  exhausted.
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  Just
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  like.
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  Okay,
• 2:50
  but
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  the
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  idea
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  is
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  you
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  guys
• 2:51
  are
• 2:52
  getting
• 2:52
  yourself
• 2:52
  used
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  to
• 2:53
  doing
• 2:53
  boring
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  stuff,
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  essentially.
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  Smart.
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  That's
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  so
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  funny.
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  So
• 2:58
  what
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  are
• 2:59
  you
• 2:59
  learning?
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  What
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  do
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  you
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  have
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  to
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  teach
• 3:00
  me?
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  Today
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  we're
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  gonna
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  talk
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  about
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  headless
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  browsers,
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  baby.
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  Neat.
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  Neat.
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  Okay.
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  When
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  I
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  first
• 3:07
  heard
• 3:07
  about
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  headless
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  browsers,
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  I
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  was
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  like,
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  it
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  sounds
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  violent.
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  They're
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  browsers
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  without
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  a
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  head.
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  Who
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  chopped
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  it
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  off?
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  What's
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  going
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  on
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  now?
• 3:14
  Let
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  me
• 3:14
  ask
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  you
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  a
• 3:15
  question
• 3:15
  before
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  I
• 3:16
  get
• 3:16
  into
• 3:16
  this.
• 3:16
  As
• 3:17
  an
• 3:17
  engineer
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  in
• 3:19
  your
• 3:20
  life
• 3:21
  of
• 3:22
  building
• 3:22
  stuff,
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  how
• 3:24
  did
• 3:24
  you
• 3:24
  think
• 3:25
  about
• 3:25
  headless
• 3:25
  browsers?
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  Slash,
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  think
• 3:27
  about
• 3:28
  using
• 3:28
  them
• 3:28
  or
• 3:28
  did
• 3:28
  you
• 3:29
  ever.
• 3:29
  Yeah,
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  I've
• 3:30
  used
• 3:30
  them
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  a
• 3:30
  bunch.
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  They're
• 3:31
  really
• 3:31
  good
• 3:31
  when
• 3:31
  it
• 3:31
  comes
• 3:32
  to
• 3:32
  scraping.
• 3:33
  Like,
• 3:33
  if
• 3:33
  you're
• 3:33
  screen
• 3:34
  scraping
• 3:34
  or
• 3:34
  if
• 3:34
  you
• 3:34
  need
• 3:34
  to
• 3:35
  get
• 3:35
  any
• 3:35
  data
• 3:35
  off
• 3:36
  a
• 3:36
  page
• 3:36
  and
• 3:36
  you
• 3:37
  don't
• 3:37
  want
• 3:37
  to
• 3:37
  waste
• 3:38
  the,
• 3:39
  like,
• 3:39
  CPUs
• 3:40
  of
• 3:40
  bringing
• 3:40
  up
• 3:40
  a
• 3:40
  browser
• 3:41
  and
• 3:41
  you
• 3:41
  don't
• 3:41
  need
• 3:42
  to
• 3:42
  actually
• 3:42
  see
• 3:42
  it.
• 3:43
  So
• 3:43
  I've
• 3:44
  used
• 3:44
  them
• 3:44
  a
• 3:44
  bunch.
• 3:45
  And
• 3:45
  so,
• 3:46
  wait,
• 3:46
  you
• 3:46
  should
• 3:46
  say,
• 3:46
  what
• 3:47
  is
• 3:47
  a
• 3:47
  headless
• 3:47
  browser?
• 3:48
  So
• 3:48
  essentially,
• 3:49
  a
• 3:49
  headless
• 3:50
  browser
• 3:50
  is,
• 3:50
  like,
• 3:51
  all
• 3:52
  of
• 3:52
  the
• 3:52
  things
• 3:52
  that
• 3:52
  are
• 3:52
  happening
• 3:53
  behind
• 3:53
  the
• 3:53
  pixels
• 3:54
  that
• 3:55
  you
• 3:55
  see
• 3:55
  rendered
• 3:55
  on
• 3:56
  a
• 3:56
  standard
• 3:56
  browser.
• 3:57
  Like,
• 3:57
  when
• 3:57
  you
• 3:57
  go
• 3:57
  to
• 3:58
  visit
• 3:58
  a
• 3:58
  website,
• 3:58
  what's
• 3:59
  happening
• 3:59
  is
• 3:59
  your
• 4:00
  browser
• 4:00
  grabs
• 4:01
  files
• 4:01
  and
• 4:01
  it
• 4:01
  basically
• 4:02
  builds,
• 4:02
  like,
• 4:02
  two
• 4:03
  invisible
• 4:04
  maps.
• 4:04
  Let's
• 4:04
  call
• 4:04
  it
• 4:05
  the
• 4:06
  dom,
• 4:07
  which
• 4:07
  is
• 4:07
  basically
• 4:08
  like,
• 4:08
  the
• 4:08
  structure
• 4:08
  of
• 4:09
  the
• 4:09
  website,
• 4:10
  and
• 4:10
  then
• 4:10
  there's
• 4:11
  like,
• 4:11
  essentially
• 4:11
  the
• 4:11
  styling.
• 4:12
  And
• 4:13
  it
• 4:14
  kind
• 4:14
  of
• 4:14
  combines
• 4:14
  these
• 4:15
  two
• 4:15
  things
• 4:15
  into
• 4:16
  the
• 4:16
  standard
• 4:16
  browser,
• 4:17
  like
• 4:17
  what
• 4:17
  you
• 4:17
  see
• 4:18
  and
• 4:18
  like,
• 4:19
  what
• 4:19
  you
• 4:19
  see
• 4:19
  when
• 4:19
  it
• 4:19
  draws
• 4:20
  the
• 4:20
  pixels
• 4:20
  on
• 4:20
  your
• 4:20
  monitor.
• 4:21
  And
• 4:22
  that's
• 4:22
  like
• 4:22
  the
• 4:22
  website
• 4:22
  that
• 4:23
  you
• 4:23
  see,
• 4:23
  but
• 4:24
  behind
• 4:24
  the
• 4:24
  scenes,
• 4:24
  there's
• 4:25
  a
• 4:25
  headless
• 4:25
  browser
• 4:25
  that
• 4:26
  sort
• 4:26
  of
• 4:26
  keeps
• 4:26
  that
• 4:26
  map
• 4:27
  in
• 4:28
  memory
• 4:28
  so
• 4:28
  it
• 4:29
  knows,
• 4:29
  like,
• 4:29
  where
• 4:29
  every
• 4:29
  button
• 4:30
  and
• 4:30
  image
• 4:31
  is.
• 4:32
  Yeah.
• 4:33
  Okay.
• 4:33
  I'm
• 4:33
  on
• 4:33
  the
• 4:33
  right
• 4:34
  track,
• 4:34
  correct?
• 4:34
  Yeah,
• 4:35
  yeah,
• 4:35
  yeah.
• 4:35
  Okay,
• 4:35
  cool.
• 4:36
  Modern
• 4:36
  websites
• 4:37
  are
• 4:37
  basically
• 4:37
  like
• 4:38
  apps
• 4:39
  that
• 4:39
  use
• 4:39
  JavaScript,
• 4:40
  essentially,
• 4:41
  to
• 4:41
  change
• 4:41
  things
• 4:41
  dynamically.
• 4:42
  So,
• 4:42
  like,
• 4:43
  when
• 4:43
  you
• 4:43
  click
• 4:43
  a
• 4:43
  menu
• 4:44
  or
• 4:45
  you
• 4:45
  watch
• 4:45
  a
• 4:45
  video,
• 4:46
  it's
• 4:46
  like
• 4:46
  running
• 4:47
  scripts.
• 4:47
  So
• 4:48
  you
• 4:48
  can
• 4:48
  do
• 4:48
  that.
• 4:48
  And
• 4:48
  on
• 4:48
  a
• 4:48
  headless
• 4:49
  browser,
• 4:49
  it
• 4:49
  runs
• 4:49
  the
• 4:49
  same
• 4:50
  scripts.
• 4:50
  So
• 4:51
  it's
• 4:51
  like
• 4:51
  interacting
• 4:52
  with
• 4:53
  the
• 4:53
  site
• 4:54
  like
• 4:54
  a
• 4:54
  human
• 4:54
  would.
• 4:55
  Yeah.
• 4:56
  So
• 4:57
  there's
• 4:58
  some
• 4:59
  tricky
• 4:59
  things
• 5:00
  that
• 5:01
  come
• 5:01
  with.
• 5:02
  So
• 5:02
  your
• 5:02
  point
• 5:03
  on
• 5:03
  scraping?
• 5:03
  Right.
• 5:04
  Let's
• 5:04
  say
• 5:05
  you
• 5:05
  want
• 5:05
  to
• 5:05
  interact
• 5:06
  with
• 5:06
  the
• 5:06
  browser,
• 5:07
  like
• 5:07
  you
• 5:07
  said,
• 5:08
  without
• 5:08
  having
• 5:08
  to,
• 5:08
  like,
• 5:08
  render
• 5:09
  it.
• 5:09
  Like,
• 5:09
  you
• 5:09
  don't
• 5:09
  care
• 5:10
  about
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  part
• 5:10
  that
• 5:11
  the
• 5:11
  human
• 5:11
  sees
• 5:12
  of,
• 5:12
  like,
• 5:12
  the
• 5:12
  pixels
• 5:13
  and
• 5:13
  whatever.
• 5:14
  You
• 5:14
  just
• 5:14
  want
• 5:14
  to,
• 5:14
  like,
• 5:15
  go
• 5:15
  to
• 5:15
  that
• 5:15
  site
• 5:16
  and,
• 5:16
  like,
• 5:16
  get
• 5:16
  the
• 5:16
  information
• 5:17
  that's,
• 5:17
  like,
• 5:18
  behind
• 5:18
  the
• 5:18
  scenes.
• 5:19
  Okay,
• 5:19
  let's
• 5:19
  say
• 5:20
  you
• 5:20
  want
• 5:20
  an
• 5:20
  AI
• 5:21
  to
• 5:21
  do
• 5:22
  something
• 5:22
  like,
• 5:23
  hey,
• 5:24
  find
• 5:24
  me
• 5:24
  a
• 5:24
  flight
• 5:25
  to
• 5:25
  Tokyo,
• 5:26
  book
• 5:26
  a
• 5:26
  hotel,
• 5:27
  and,
• 5:27
  like,
• 5:27
  find
• 5:27
  a
• 5:27
  sushi
• 5:28
  spot
• 5:28
  for
• 5:28
  me.
• 5:29
  So
• 5:29
  that
• 5:29
  agent
• 5:30
  might
• 5:30
  spin
• 5:30
  up,
• 5:31
  like,
• 5:31
  five
• 5:32
  or
• 5:32
  10
• 5:32
  different
• 5:33
  browsers,
• 5:33
  and
• 5:34
  it's
• 5:34
  like
• 5:34
  doing
• 5:34
  all
• 5:34
  of
• 5:35
  those
• 5:35
  things
• 5:35
  at
• 5:35
  the
• 5:35
  same
• 5:36
  time
• 5:36
  in
• 5:36
  different
• 5:36
  browsers.
• 5:37
  Right.
• 5:37
  So
• 5:38
  that
• 5:38
  instead
• 5:38
  of
• 5:39
  it
• 5:39
  taking,
• 5:39
  like,
• 5:39
  50
• 5:39
  minutes
• 5:40
  to
• 5:40
  do
• 5:40
  that,
• 5:40
  it's
• 5:40
  going
• 5:41
  to
• 5:41
  take,
• 5:41
  like,
• 5:42
  you
• 5:42
  know,
• 5:42
  seconds.
• 5:43
  Historically,
• 5:44
  there's
• 5:44
  like,
• 5:45
  two
• 5:45
  main
• 5:45
  ways
• 5:46
  that
• 5:47
  developers
• 5:48
  drive
• 5:49
  headless
• 5:49
  browsers
• 5:50
  like
• 5:50
  that.
• 5:50
  There's
• 5:50
  Puppeteer,
• 5:52
  which
• 5:52
  is
• 5:53
  built
• 5:53
  by
• 5:53
  Google,
• 5:53
  and
• 5:54
  that's
• 5:54
  for
• 5:54
  controlling
• 5:55
  Chrome,
• 5:56
  and
• 5:56
  there's
• 5:56
  Playwright,
• 5:57
  which
• 5:57
  is
• 5:57
  built
• 5:57
  by
• 5:57
  Microsoft,
• 5:58
  and
• 5:58
  that
• 5:59
  can
• 5:59
  control,
• 5:59
  like,
• 5:59
  Chrome,
• 6:00
  Firefox,
• 6:00
  Safari,
• 6:01
  Edge.
• 6:02
  And
• 6:03
  there's
• 6:04
  some
• 6:04
  things
• 6:04
  about
• 6:05
  that
• 6:05
  in
• 6:05
  the
• 6:05
  past
• 6:05
  that
• 6:05
  have
• 6:06
  really
• 6:06
  been
• 6:06
  a
• 6:06
  pain
• 6:06
  in
• 6:06
  the
• 6:06
  ass.
• 6:07
  So,
• 6:07
  like,
• 6:07
  when
• 6:07
  you
• 6:08
  write
• 6:08
  a
• 6:08
  script,
• 6:09
  like,
• 6:09
  I
• 6:10
  think,
• 6:10
  like
• 6:10
  a
• 6:10
  Puppeteer
• 6:11
  script,
• 6:12
  to
• 6:13
  tell
• 6:13
  a
• 6:13
  headless
• 6:14
  browser
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  do
• 6:15
  something
• 6:16
  or
• 6:16
  to,
• 6:16
  like,
• 6:16
  manipulate
• 6:17
  a
• 6:17
  headless
• 6:18
  browser,
• 6:18
  you
• 6:19
  have
• 6:19
  to
• 6:21
  specifically
• 6:23
  tell
• 6:23
  it
• 6:23
  exactly
• 6:24
  where
• 6:24
  in
• 6:25
  that
• 6:25
  map
• 6:26
  the
• 6:27
  thing
• 6:27
  that
• 6:27
  you
• 6:27
  want
• 6:28
  to
• 6:28
  control
• 6:28
  is.
• 6:29
  So,
• 6:29
  for
• 6:29
  example,
• 6:30
  let's
• 6:30
  say
• 6:30
  you
• 6:30
  were.
• 6:30
  You're
• 6:31
  giving
• 6:31
  it
• 6:31
  a
• 6:31
  script
• 6:31
  that
• 6:31
  says,
• 6:32
  like,
• 6:32
  click
• 6:33
  this
• 6:33
  blue
• 6:34
  button
• 6:34
  that
• 6:35
  says
• 6:35
  buy
• 6:36
  now.
• 6:36
  And
• 6:37
  like,
• 6:37
  really
• 6:37
  what
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  script
• 6:38
  looks
• 6:38
  like
• 6:38
  is
• 6:38
  like
• 6:38
  you're
• 6:39
  using,
• 6:39
  like,
• 6:39
  actual
• 6:40
  code.
• 6:41
  That's
• 6:41
  like
• 6:41
  the
• 6:42
  CSS
• 6:42
  selector
• 6:43
  of
• 6:43
  that
• 6:43
  button
• 6:44
  and,
• 6:44
  like,
• 6:44
  the
• 6:45
  exact
• 6:45
  color
• 6:46
  scheme
• 6:47
  or
• 6:47
  whatever,
• 6:48
  which
• 6:49
  works
• 6:49
  great
• 6:50
  until,
• 6:50
  like,
• 6:51
  the
• 6:51
  designer
• 6:52
  of
• 6:52
  that
• 6:52
  website
• 6:53
  decides,
• 6:53
  like,
• 6:53
  make
• 6:53
  the
• 6:53
  button
• 6:54
  green.
• 6:54
  A
• 6:54
  selector
• 6:55
  for
• 6:55
  folks
• 6:55
  that
• 6:55
  don't
• 6:56
  know
• 6:56
  what
• 6:56
  a
• 6:56
  selector
• 6:56
  is
• 6:57
  is
• 6:57
  how
• 6:57
  you
• 6:57
  find,
• 6:58
  like,
• 6:58
  that
• 6:58
  button
• 6:58
  on
• 6:58
  a
• 6:58
  page.
• 6:59
  It
• 6:59
  could
• 6:59
  be
• 6:59
  like
• 6:59
  an
• 7:00
  ID
• 7:00
  or
• 7:00
  like
• 7:01
  something,
• 7:01
  some
• 7:01
  trait
• 7:01
  of
• 7:02
  the
• 7:02
  button,
• 7:02
  to
• 7:02
  your
• 7:02
  point.
• 7:03
  The
• 7:03
  color?
• 7:04
  Yeah,
• 7:04
  like
• 7:04
  a
• 7:04
  unique
• 7:05
  ID
• 7:05
  or
• 7:05
  something
• 7:06
  that
• 7:06
  helps
• 7:07
  identify,
• 7:08
  like,
• 7:09
  where
• 7:10
  in
• 7:10
  this
• 7:11
  map
• 7:11
  that
• 7:12
  thing,
• 7:12
  that
• 7:12
  coordinate
• 7:13
  is.
• 7:14
  I
• 7:14
  think
• 7:14
  what
• 7:14
  would
• 7:14
  happen
• 7:15
  historically,
• 7:16
  often
• 7:16
  is,
• 7:17
  like,
• 7:17
  you
• 7:17
  write
• 7:17
  a
• 7:17
  script
• 7:18
  like
• 7:18
  it's
• 7:18
  going
• 7:19
  great,
• 7:19
  and
• 7:19
  then
• 7:19
  all
• 7:20
  of
• 7:20
  a
• 7:20
  sudden
• 7:21
  one
• 7:21
  thing
• 7:21
  changes
• 7:22
  because
• 7:22
  no.
• 7:22
  One
• 7:23
  tells
• 7:23
  you
• 7:23
  the
• 7:23
  designer's
• 7:24
  not.
• 7:24
  Like,
• 7:24
  just
• 7:24
  so
• 7:24
  you
• 7:24
  know,
• 7:25
  this
• 7:25
  bone's
• 7:25
  going
• 7:25
  to
• 7:25
  be
• 7:25
  purple
• 7:26
  now.
• 7:26
  Yeah,
• 7:27
  exactly.
• 7:27
  And
• 7:27
  then
• 7:27
  it
• 7:27
  breaks.
• 7:28
  Then
• 7:28
  you
• 7:28
  have
• 7:28
  to,
• 7:28
  like,
• 7:28
  figure
• 7:29
  that
• 7:29
  out
• 7:29
  and
• 7:29
  you
• 7:29
  have
• 7:29
  to
• 7:29
  rewrite
• 7:30
  it
• 7:30
  again.
• 7:31
  So
• 7:31
  there's
• 7:32
  some
• 7:32
  really
• 7:32
  cool
• 7:33
  things
• 7:33
  that,
• 7:34
  like,
• 7:34
  AI
• 7:35
  and
• 7:35
  LLMs
• 7:36
  have
• 7:36
  enabled
• 7:36
  us
• 7:37
  to
• 7:37
  do
• 7:37
  now
• 7:37
  to
• 7:38
  kind
• 7:38
  of
• 7:38
  solve
• 7:38
  this
• 7:39
  problem.
• 7:39
  So,
• 7:40
  first
• 7:40
  example
• 7:40
  I'm
• 7:41
  going
• 7:41
  to
• 7:41
  give
• 7:41
  you
• 7:41
  is
• 7:42
  there's
• 7:42
  a
• 7:42
  company
• 7:42
  called
• 7:42
  Browser
• 7:43
  Base
• 7:43
  that
• 7:44
  released
• 7:44
  an
• 7:44
  open
• 7:44
  source
• 7:45
  tool
• 7:45
  called
• 7:45
  stagehand.
• 7:46
  Basically
• 7:47
  what
• 7:47
  Stagehand
• 7:48
  lets
• 7:48
  you
• 7:48
  do
• 7:48
  is
• 7:48
  instead
• 7:49
  of
• 7:49
  writing
• 7:49
  code
• 7:50
  that
• 7:50
  has,
• 7:50
  it
• 7:50
  has
• 7:50
  to
• 7:51
  be
• 7:51
  really
• 7:51
  rigid
• 7:51
  in
• 7:51
  terms
• 7:52
  of
• 7:52
  like,
• 7:52
  this
• 7:52
  is
• 7:52
  the
• 7:53
  exact
• 7:53
  selector
• 7:53
  and
• 7:54
  this
• 7:54
  is
• 7:54
  the
• 7:54
  text.
• 7:54
  And
• 7:55
  this
• 7:55
  is
• 7:56
  what
• 7:56
  I'm
• 7:56
  telling
• 7:56
  the
• 7:56
  headless
• 7:57
  browser
• 7:57
  to
• 7:57
  do.
• 7:58
  You
• 7:58
  can
• 7:58
  basically
• 7:59
  use
• 7:59
  natural
• 8:00
  language
• 8:00
  and
• 8:01
  say,
• 8:02
  find
• 8:02
  and
• 8:02
  click
• 8:03
  the
• 8:03
  button
• 8:03
  to
• 8:03
  finish
• 8:03
  the
• 8:03
  purchase.
• 8:04
  And
• 8:04
  so
• 8:04
  what
• 8:05
  it
• 8:05
  does
• 8:05
  is
• 8:06
  it'll
• 8:06
  then
• 8:07
  take
• 8:07
  a
• 8:07
  screenshot
• 8:09
  of
• 8:09
  the
• 8:09
  DOM
• 8:09
  or
• 8:10
  the
• 8:10
  code.
• 8:10
  Sometimes
• 8:11
  it
• 8:11
  uses
• 8:11
  a
• 8:11
  literal
• 8:12
  image
• 8:12
  of
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  page
• 8:13
  and
• 8:14
  it
• 8:14
  sends
• 8:14
  a
• 8:15
  simplified
• 8:15
  version
• 8:16
  of
• 8:16
  that
• 8:17
  map
• 8:18
  to
• 8:18
  an
• 8:18
  AI
• 8:19
  model
• 8:19
  like
• 8:19
  GPT4O.
• 8:21
  And
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  AI
• 8:23
  basically
• 8:23
  looks
• 8:23
  at
• 8:23
  the
• 8:23
  page
• 8:23
  and
• 8:24
  thinks,
• 8:24
  like,
• 8:24
  okay,
• 8:25
  I
• 8:25
  see
• 8:25
  a
• 8:25
  box
• 8:25
  with
• 8:26
  a
• 8:26
  calendar,
• 8:27
  I
• 8:27
  see
• 8:27
  a
• 8:27
  price,
• 8:28
  I
• 8:28
  see
• 8:28
  a
• 8:28
  large
• 8:28
  button.
• 8:29
  And
• 8:30
  even
• 8:31
  though
• 8:31
  the
• 8:31
  button
• 8:32
  class
• 8:32
  might
• 8:33
  be
• 8:33
  like
• 8:33
  BTN
• 8:34
  v2
• 8:36
  something,
• 8:36
  it
• 8:36
  can
• 8:37
  understand
• 8:38
  that,
• 8:38
  like,
• 8:38
  oh,
• 8:38
  this
• 8:39
  is
• 8:39
  clearly
• 8:39
  the
• 8:39
  button
• 8:39
  the
• 8:40
  user's
• 8:40
  talking
• 8:40
  about.
• 8:40
  And
• 8:41
  it
• 8:41
  will
• 8:41
  then
• 8:42
  send
• 8:43
  the
• 8:43
  right
• 8:43
  selector
• 8:44
  for
• 8:44
  that
• 8:44
  button
• 8:45
  to
• 8:45
  the
• 8:45
  headless
• 8:45
  browser
• 8:46
  to
• 8:46
  perform
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  click.
• 8:47
  So
• 8:47
  as
• 8:48
  the
• 8:48
  engineer
• 8:49
  or
• 8:49
  developer,
• 8:49
  you
• 8:49
  don't
• 8:50
  have
• 8:50
  to
• 8:50
  like,
• 8:51
  kill
• 8:51
  yourself
• 8:51
  with
• 8:52
  trying
• 8:52
  to
• 8:52
  get
• 8:53
  the
• 8:53
  exact
• 8:54
  selector
• 8:55
  right.
• 8:55
  Or
• 8:55
  even
• 8:55
  if
• 8:55
  you
• 8:56
  do
• 8:56
  worry
• 8:56
  if
• 8:56
  it
• 8:56
  breaks,
• 8:57
  it
• 8:57
  sort
• 8:57
  of
• 8:58
  sees
• 8:58
  the
• 8:58
  website
• 8:59
  more
• 8:59
  like
• 8:59
  a
• 9:00
  human
• 9:00
  would
• 9:01
  without
• 9:01
  it
• 9:02
  rendering.
• 9:02
  So
• 9:03
  that's
• 9:03
  pretty
• 9:03
  cool.
• 9:04
  There's
• 9:04
  other
• 9:05
  stuff
• 9:05
  that,
• 9:05
  like,
• 9:06
  browser
• 9:06
  base
• 9:07
  as
• 9:07
  a
• 9:07
  whole
• 9:07
  does,
• 9:07
  but
• 9:08
  I'll
• 9:08
  keep
• 9:08
  it
• 9:09
  to
• 9:09
  Stagehand,
• 9:10
  like,
• 9:10
  kind
• 9:10
  of
• 9:11
  what
• 9:11
  Stagehand
• 9:11
  does
• 9:11
  for
• 9:11
  now.
• 9:12
  Yeah,
• 9:12
  I
• 9:12
  love
• 9:12
  the
• 9:12
  theatricality
• 9:13
  of
• 9:14
  it.
• 9:14
  Yeah.
• 9:16
  There's
• 9:16
  one
• 9:16
  other
• 9:16
  example
• 9:17
  I
• 9:17
  want
• 9:17
  to
• 9:17
  mention,
• 9:18
  which
• 9:18
  is
• 9:19
  there's
• 9:20
  this
• 9:20
  company
• 9:20
  called
• 9:20
  Light
• 9:20
  Panda.
• 9:21
  Full
• 9:22
  disclosure.
• 9:22
  Factorial
• 9:23
  is
• 9:23
  an
• 9:23
  investor
• 9:24
  in
• 9:24
  Light
• 9:24
  Panda.
• 9:24
  But
• 9:24
  basically,
• 9:25
  you
• 9:26
  know,
• 9:26
  there's
• 9:26
  a
• 9:26
  lot
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  stuff
• 9:27
  that
• 9:27
  happens
• 9:27
  in
• 9:27
  a
• 9:27
  browser
• 9:29
  that
• 9:29
  isn't
• 9:30
  necessarily
• 9:31
  necessary
• 9:32
  for
• 9:32
  if
• 9:33
  you're
• 9:33
  trying
• 9:33
  to,
• 9:33
  like,
• 9:34
  let's
• 9:34
  say
• 9:34
  scrape
• 9:34
  website
• 9:35
  data,
• 9:35
  you
• 9:35
  know,
• 9:35
  you
• 9:36
  don't
• 9:36
  need,
• 9:36
  like,
• 9:37
  to
• 9:37
  calculate
• 9:38
  how
• 9:38
  many
• 9:38
  pixels
• 9:39
  wide
• 9:39
  a
• 9:39
  sidebar
• 9:39
  is,
• 9:40
  or
• 9:40
  like
• 9:40
  decoded
• 9:41
  JPEG
• 9:41
  or
• 9:42
  like
• 9:42
  smooth
• 9:42
  the
• 9:43
  scrolling
• 9:43
  animation.
• 9:44
  Like,
• 9:44
  it
• 9:44
  doesn't
• 9:45
  matter.
• 9:45
  You
• 9:45
  just
• 9:45
  want
• 9:46
  like
• 9:47
  one
• 9:47
  piece
• 9:47
  of
• 9:47
  information.
• 9:48
  And
• 9:48
  so
• 9:49
  sometimes
• 9:49
  when
• 9:50
  you're
• 9:50
  using
• 9:50
  Chrome
• 9:50
  for
• 9:51
  something
• 9:51
  like
• 9:51
  that,
• 9:51
  it's
• 9:51
  like,
• 9:52
  I
• 9:52
  don't
• 9:53
  know,
• 9:53
  it's
• 9:53
  like
• 9:53
  using
• 9:53
  like
• 9:54
  a
• 9:55
  private
• 9:55
  jet
• 9:55
  to
• 9:56
  go
• 9:56
  to
• 9:56
  the
• 9:56
  grocery
• 9:56
  store
• 9:56
  instead
• 9:57
  of
• 9:57
  your
• 9:58
  bike.
• 9:58
  So
• 9:59
  what
• 9:59
  Light
• 9:59
  Panda
• 9:59
  did
• 9:59
  is
• 10:00
  they
• 10:00
  built
• 10:01
  a
• 10:01
  headless
• 10:01
  browser
• 10:02
  from
• 10:02
  scratch
• 10:03
  using
• 10:04
  a
• 10:04
  programming
• 10:05
  language
• 10:05
  called
• 10:05
  Zig.
• 10:06
  Have
• 10:06
  you
• 10:06
  ever
• 10:06
  heard
• 10:06
  of
• 10:07
  that?
• 10:07
  No.
• 10:08
  Me
• 10:08
  either.
• 10:08
  But
• 10:09
  what
• 10:09
  a
• 10:09
  fun
• 10:09
  name.
• 10:10
  And
• 10:10
  basically
• 10:10
  it
• 10:11
  strips
• 10:12
  away
• 10:12
  all
• 10:12
  of
• 10:13
  the
• 10:13
  unnecessary
• 10:13
  heaviness
• 10:14
  so
• 10:14
  it
• 10:14
  doesn't
• 10:15
  re
• 10:15
  render
• 10:15
  any
• 10:16
  visuals,
• 10:17
  it
• 10:17
  just
• 10:17
  keeps
• 10:18
  the
• 10:18
  part
• 10:18
  of
• 10:18
  the
• 10:18
  site's
• 10:19
  maps
• 10:19
  that
• 10:19
  matter.
• 10:20
  And
• 10:20
  so
• 10:20
  it
• 10:21
  uses
• 10:21
  a
• 10:21
  lot
• 10:21
  less
• 10:21
  battery
• 10:22
  and
• 10:22
  is
• 10:22
  much
• 10:23
  faster
• 10:23
  than
• 10:23
  like
• 10:24
  Headless
• 10:24
  Chrome,
• 10:25
  which
• 10:25
  is
• 10:25
  really
• 10:26
  cool.
• 10:26
  So
• 10:26
  for
• 10:28
  high
• 10:28
  volume
• 10:29
  scraping
• 10:30
  stuff
• 10:30
  it's
• 10:31
  great.
• 10:32
  Or
• 10:32
  like
• 10:32
  I
• 10:32
  actually
• 10:33
  do
• 10:33
  that.
• 10:33
  I'll
• 10:33
  check.
• 10:33
  I'll
• 10:34
  have
• 10:34
  to
• 10:34
  check
• 10:34
  it
• 10:34
  out
• 10:34
  because
• 10:34
  I
• 10:34
  have.
• 10:35
  Okay.
• 10:35
  Yay.
• 10:35
  I
• 10:35
  want.
• 10:35
  Yes.
• 10:36
  And
• 10:36
  it's
• 10:36
  open
• 10:36
  source.
• 10:37
  Use
• 10:37
  it.
• 10:38
  I'm
• 10:38
  really
• 10:38
  curious
• 10:39
  for
• 10:39
  you
• 10:39
  to
• 10:40
  use
• 10:40
  it
• 10:40
  and
• 10:40
  tell
• 10:40
  me
• 10:41
  what
• 10:41
  happens.
• 10:42
  I've
• 10:42
  tried
• 10:43
  both
• 10:44
  Browser
• 10:44
  Base
• 10:45
  and
• 10:45
  Light
• 10:45
  Panda
• 10:46
  for
• 10:47
  different
• 10:48
  use
• 10:49
  cases
• 10:49
  and
• 10:49
  sort
• 10:50
  of
• 10:50
  compared
• 10:50
  them
• 10:50
  and
• 10:50
  it
• 10:50
  like
• 10:51
  really
• 10:51
  is
• 10:52
  use
• 10:52
  case
• 10:52
  dependent
• 10:53
  on
• 10:53
  like
• 10:53
  which
• 10:53
  is
• 10:54
  kind
• 10:54
  of
• 10:54
  the
• 10:54
  right.
• 10:55
  Super
• 10:56
  useful.
• 10:56
  The
• 10:56
  stagehand
• 10:57
  stuff
• 10:57
  is
• 10:57
  super
• 10:57
  useful.
• 10:58
  One
• 10:58
  thing
• 10:58
  I've
• 10:59
  run
• 10:59
  into
• 10:59
  too
• 10:59
  because
• 11:00
  like
• 11:00
  people
• 11:00
  don't
• 11:00
  like
• 11:00
  scraping.
• 11:01
  A
• 11:01
  lot
• 11:01
  of
• 11:01
  websites
• 11:02
  don't
• 11:02
  like
• 11:02
  like
• 11:02
  when
• 11:03
  you
• 11:03
  scrape
• 11:03
  them.
• 11:03
  So
• 11:04
  they
• 11:04
  don't
• 11:04
  do
• 11:04
  a
• 11:04
  lot.
• 11:05
  Yeah,
• 11:06
  like
• 11:06
  for
• 11:06
  example,
• 11:06
  if
• 11:07
  you
• 11:07
  want
• 11:07
  to
• 11:07
  scrape
• 11:07
  Gmail
• 11:08
  or
• 11:08
  getting
• 11:08
  that
• 11:09
  information,
• 11:09
  Google
• 11:10
  obfuscates
• 11:11
  their
• 11:11
  CSS
• 11:12
  and
• 11:12
  all
• 11:12
  their
• 11:13
  IDs.
• 11:13
  So
• 11:13
  if
• 11:13
  you
• 11:14
  want
• 11:14
  to
• 11:14
  get
• 11:14
  a
• 11:14
  button
• 11:14
  by
• 11:14
  an
• 11:15
  id,
• 11:15
  for
• 11:15
  example,
• 11:16
  every
• 11:16
  time
• 11:17
  you
• 11:17
  load
• 11:17
  your
• 11:17
  Gmail,
• 11:18
  that
• 11:18
  same
• 11:19
  button
• 11:19
  has
• 11:19
  a
• 11:19
  different
• 11:20
  ID
• 11:20
  just
• 11:21
  to.
• 11:21
  Make
• 11:21
  it
• 11:21
  hard
• 11:22
  for
• 11:22
  people
• 11:22
  to
• 11:22
  scrape.
• 11:23
  So
• 11:24
  something
• 11:24
  like
• 11:24
  being
• 11:24
  able
• 11:25
  to
• 11:25
  describe
• 11:26
  the
• 11:26
  button
• 11:26
  with
• 11:27
  natural
• 11:27
  language
• 11:27
  makes
• 11:28
  that.
• 11:28
  A
• 11:28
  lot
• 11:28
  easier
• 11:29
  to
• 11:29
  that
• 11:30
  point
• 11:30
  like
• 11:30
  there's
• 11:31
  stagehand
• 11:31
  and
• 11:32
  then
• 11:32
  browser
• 11:32
  base
• 11:33
  itself
• 11:33
  is
• 11:34
  like
• 11:35
  sort
• 11:35
  of
• 11:35
  like
• 11:36
  it
• 11:36
  does
• 11:36
  other
• 11:37
  things
• 11:37
  that
• 11:38
  help
• 11:39
  with
• 11:39
  that
• 11:39
  exact
• 11:40
  issue
• 11:41
  where
• 11:41
  like
• 11:41
  it
• 11:41
  doesn't
• 11:42
  look
• 11:42
  like
• 11:42
  like
• 11:42
  a
• 11:43
  bot
• 11:43
  is
• 11:43
  basically
• 11:44
  coming
• 11:44
  to
• 11:44
  like
• 11:45
  scrape
• 11:45
  your
• 11:45
  stuff.
• 11:46
  So
• 11:46
  like
• 11:46
  things
• 11:46
  with
• 11:47
  IP
• 11:47
  addresses
• 11:47
  and
• 11:48
  stuff
• 11:48
  like
• 11:48
  that
• 11:49
  biggest
• 11:49
  takeaway
• 11:49
  is
• 11:50
  I
• 11:50
  realized
• 11:50
  when
• 11:51
  I
• 11:51
  was
• 11:51
  going
• 11:51
  down
• 11:51
  this
• 11:51
  rabbit
• 11:52
  hole,
• 11:52
  I
• 11:52
  was
• 11:52
  like,
• 11:53
  I
• 11:53
  just
• 11:53
  have
• 11:54
  never
• 11:54
  really
• 11:54
  taken
• 11:55
  the
• 11:55
  time
• 11:56
  to
• 11:56
  like
• 11:57
  really
• 11:57
  understand
• 11:58
  what
• 11:58
  is
• 11:59
  happening
• 11:59
  behind
• 12:00
  the
• 12:00
  pixels.
• 12:01
  Behind
• 12:01
  the
• 12:02
  pixels.
• 12:02
  Yeah,
• 12:02
  it's
• 12:03
  cool
• 12:03
  once
• 12:03
  you
• 12:03
  figure
• 12:03
  it
• 12:03
  out
• 12:03
  and
• 12:04
  then
• 12:04
  you're
• 12:04
  like,
• 12:04
  oh
• 12:04
  wow,
• 12:05
  there's
• 12:05
  a
• 12:05
  lot,
• 12:05
  there's
• 12:06
  a
• 12:06
  lot
• 12:06
  of
• 12:06
  different
• 12:06
  things.
• 12:07
  Okay
• 12:07
  Sarah,
• 12:07
  what
• 12:08
  are
• 12:08
  you
• 12:08
  learning
• 12:09
  about?
• 12:10
  Well,
• 12:10
  okay,
• 12:10
  so
• 12:10
  I
• 12:10
  recently
• 12:11
  learned
• 12:11
  something
• 12:11
  I
• 12:11
  thought
• 12:11
  was
• 12:12
  really
• 12:12
  neat.
• 12:13
  So
• 12:13
  the
• 12:13
  headline
• 12:14
  is
• 12:14
  AI
• 12:15
  is
• 12:15
  learning
• 12:16
  to
• 12:16
  literally
• 12:17
  read
• 12:17
  your
• 12:18
  mind.
• 12:18
  Literally.
• 12:21
  Very
• 12:21
  interesting.
• 12:22
  So
• 12:22
  as
• 12:22
  we
• 12:23
  know
• 12:23
  like
• 12:23
  we've
• 12:23
  talked
• 12:23
  a
• 12:23
  lot
• 12:24
  about
• 12:24
  how
• 12:24
  AI
• 12:24
  works
• 12:24
  here,
• 12:25
  but
• 12:25
  just
• 12:25
  like
• 12:25
  as
• 12:26
  a
• 12:26
  reminder,
• 12:27
  AI
• 12:27
  does
• 12:27
  a
• 12:27
  lot
• 12:28
  of
• 12:28
  pattern
• 12:28
  matching.
• 12:29
  And
• 12:29
  really
• 12:30
  modern
• 12:30
  AI
• 12:30
  as
• 12:30
  we
• 12:31
  know
• 12:31
  today
• 12:32
  started
• 12:33
  with
• 12:33
  being
• 12:34
  able
• 12:34
  to
• 12:34
  pattern
• 12:34
  match
• 12:35
  against
• 12:35
  images.
• 12:36
  And
• 12:37
  also
• 12:37
  even
• 12:38
  the
• 12:38
  like
• 12:38
  text
• 12:39
  based
• 12:39
  conversational
• 12:40
  AI
• 12:40
  we
• 12:40
  have
• 12:41
  started
• 12:41
  out
• 12:42
  by
• 12:42
  being
• 12:42
  able
• 12:42
  to
• 12:43
  like
• 12:43
  complete
• 12:43
  sentences.
• 12:44
  Like
• 12:44
  if
• 12:45
  I
• 12:45
  was
• 12:45
  like
• 12:45
  what
• 12:46
  is
• 12:46
  the
• 12:46
  weather
• 12:46
  in
• 12:47
  to
• 12:47
  an
• 12:47
  AI,
• 12:48
  it
• 12:48
  Would
• 12:48
  guess
• 12:49
  in
• 12:49
  high
• 12:49
  probability
• 12:50
  that
• 12:50
  the
• 12:50
  rest
• 12:50
  of
• 12:51
  my
• 12:51
  sentence
• 12:51
  would
• 12:51
  be
• 12:52
  New
• 12:52
  York,
• 12:52
  because
• 12:52
  that's
• 12:53
  where
• 12:53
  I
• 12:53
  live.
• 12:53
  It's
• 12:54
  just
• 12:54
  very
• 12:54
  good
• 12:55
  at
• 12:55
  pattern
• 12:55
  matching
• 12:56
  and
• 12:57
  prediction.
• 12:58
  They're
• 12:58
  like
• 12:58
  prediction
• 12:58
  engines.
• 13:00
  So
• 13:00
  scientists
• 13:02
  have
• 13:02
  taken
• 13:03
  that
• 13:03
  capability
• 13:05
  and
• 13:05
  are
• 13:06
  using
• 13:06
  things
• 13:06
  called
• 13:07
  FMRI
• 13:07
  machines,
• 13:08
  which
• 13:08
  tracks
• 13:09
  blood
• 13:09
  flow
• 13:09
  in
• 13:10
  your
• 13:10
  brain
• 13:10
  to
• 13:11
  help
• 13:11
  read
• 13:11
  minds.
• 13:12
  And
• 13:12
  basically
• 13:13
  how
• 13:13
  it
• 13:13
  works
• 13:14
  is
• 13:14
  this.
• 13:14
  Basically
• 13:15
  it
• 13:15
  starts
• 13:15
  like
• 13:15
  this.
• 13:16
  Like,
• 13:16
  say,
• 13:16
  becca,
• 13:16
  we're
• 13:17
  doing
• 13:17
  it
• 13:17
  with
• 13:17
  you.
• 13:17
  You
• 13:18
  get
• 13:18
  hooked
• 13:18
  up
• 13:18
  to
• 13:18
  this
• 13:19
  FMRI
• 13:19
  machine,
• 13:20
  and
• 13:20
  I
• 13:21
  would
• 13:21
  show
• 13:21
  you,
• 13:22
  like,
• 13:22
  a
• 13:22
  thousand
• 13:22
  images,
• 13:23
  like
• 13:23
  dogs,
• 13:24
  people,
• 13:25
  buildings,
• 13:26
  faces,
• 13:27
  and,
• 13:28
  like,
• 13:28
  the
• 13:28
  whole
• 13:28
  time
• 13:28
  scanning
• 13:29
  your
• 13:29
  brain
• 13:29
  and
• 13:30
  seeing
• 13:30
  the
• 13:30
  activity
• 13:31
  that
• 13:31
  happens
• 13:32
  when
• 13:32
  you
• 13:32
  see
• 13:32
  a
• 13:33
  dog
• 13:33
  versus,
• 13:34
  like,
• 13:34
  the
• 13:34
  activity
• 13:35
  Becca's
• 13:35
  brain
• 13:35
  sees
• 13:36
  a
• 13:37
  penguin.
• 13:37
  And
• 13:38
  so
• 13:38
  based
• 13:38
  on
• 13:39
  that,
• 13:39
  that's
• 13:40
  what
• 13:40
  the
• 13:40
  AI
• 13:41
  learns
• 13:42
  about.
• 13:42
  And
• 13:43
  specifically,
• 13:44
  people
• 13:44
  use
• 13:45
  the
• 13:45
  word
• 13:45
  trained,
• 13:45
  like
• 13:46
  intro,
• 13:46
  but
• 13:47
  this
• 13:47
  isn't
• 13:47
  its
• 13:48
  training,
• 13:48
  but
• 13:48
  it's
• 13:49
  data
• 13:49
  that
• 13:49
  it
• 13:49
  takes
• 13:50
  in
• 13:50
  order
• 13:51
  to.
• 13:52
  Then
• 13:53
  I
• 13:53
  now
• 13:54
  show
• 13:54
  you,
• 13:54
  once
• 13:54
  it
• 13:55
  has
• 13:55
  enough
• 13:55
  data
• 13:55
  that
• 13:56
  it
• 13:56
  feels
• 13:56
  like
• 13:56
  it
• 13:56
  understands
• 13:57
  your
• 13:57
  brain.
• 13:57
  Well,
• 13:58
  if
• 13:59
  you
• 13:59
  picture
• 13:59
  something
• 13:59
  in
• 14:00
  your
• 14:00
  mind,
• 14:01
  it
• 14:01
  can,
• 14:02
  in
• 14:02
  essence,
• 14:03
  see
• 14:03
  what
• 14:03
  you're
• 14:04
  picturing
• 14:05
  because
• 14:05
  it
• 14:05
  sees
• 14:06
  the
• 14:06
  same
• 14:06
  patterns.
• 14:07
  It
• 14:07
  knows
• 14:07
  what
• 14:08
  patterns
• 14:08
  in
• 14:08
  your
• 14:08
  brain
• 14:09
  it's
• 14:09
  looking
• 14:09
  for
• 14:09
  and
• 14:09
  what
• 14:10
  different
• 14:10
  patterns
• 14:10
  mean.
• 14:11
  If
• 14:11
  you
• 14:11
  then
• 14:11
  showed
• 14:12
  me
• 14:12
  a
• 14:12
  picture
• 14:12
  of
• 14:12
  a
• 14:12
  penguin
• 14:13
  and
• 14:14
  it
• 14:14
  knows
• 14:14
  what
• 14:15
  that
• 14:15
  pattern
• 14:16
  looked
• 14:16
  like
• 14:16
  previously,
• 14:17
  it's
• 14:17
  like,
• 14:18
  Becca's
• 14:19
  looking
• 14:19
  at
• 14:19
  penguins.
• 14:20
  Yeah.
• 14:21
  Thinking
• 14:21
  about
• 14:21
  a
• 14:22
  penguin
• 14:22
  or
• 14:22
  something.
• 14:23
  Yeah.
• 14:24
  It's
• 14:24
  so
• 14:24
  cool.
• 14:25
  I
• 14:25
  can
• 14:26
  imagine
• 14:26
  that
• 14:26
  that
• 14:27
  takes
• 14:29
  so
• 14:29
  much
• 14:30
  different
• 14:31
  data
• 14:31
  to
• 14:32
  make
• 14:33
  somewhat
• 14:34
  accurate.
• 14:35
  Yeah,
• 14:35
  exactly.
• 14:36
  And
• 14:36
  folks
• 14:37
  at
• 14:37
  Berkeley
• 14:37
  are
• 14:37
  also
• 14:37
  doing
• 14:38
  video
• 14:38
  clips,
• 14:39
  like,
• 14:39
  understanding,
• 14:40
  like,
• 14:40
  not
• 14:41
  just
• 14:41
  an
• 14:41
  image,
• 14:42
  but
• 14:42
  doing
• 14:42
  video
• 14:43
  clips.
• 14:43
  And
• 14:44
  then
• 14:44
  even
• 14:45
  the
• 14:45
  folks
• 14:45
  at
• 14:46
  Meta
• 14:46
  have
• 14:47
  been
• 14:47
  working
• 14:47
  for
• 14:47
  a
• 14:47
  little
• 14:48
  while
• 14:48
  on
• 14:49
  decoding
• 14:49
  speech
• 14:50
  patterns
• 14:50
  when
• 14:50
  you're
• 14:51
  just
• 14:51
  thinking
• 14:51
  about
• 14:51
  them
• 14:52
  like,
• 14:52
  so
• 14:52
  you
• 14:53
  can
• 14:53
  think
• 14:53
  and,
• 14:54
  like,
• 14:54
  don't
• 14:55
  have
• 14:55
  to
• 14:55
  type
• 14:55
  when
• 14:56
  you're
• 14:56
  communicating
• 14:56
  with
• 14:56
  a
• 14:57
  computer.
• 14:57
  My
• 14:57
  dream
• 14:58
  use
• 14:58
  case
• 14:58
  I
• 14:59
  think
• 14:59
  about
• 14:59
  this
• 14:59
  all
• 14:59
  the
• 14:59
  time
• 15:00
  is
• 15:00
  like,
• 15:00
  I'm,
• 15:01
  like,
• 15:01
  in
• 15:01
  bed,
• 15:01
  my
• 15:02
  eyes
• 15:02
  are
• 15:02
  closed,
• 15:02
  I'm
• 15:02
  falling
• 15:03
  asleep,
• 15:04
  and
• 15:04
  all
• 15:04
  of
• 15:04
  a
• 15:04
  sudden
• 15:05
  I
• 15:05
  remember,
• 15:05
  like,
• 15:06
  oh,
• 15:06
  something
• 15:06
  I
• 15:07
  want
• 15:07
  to,
• 15:07
  like,
• 15:08
  remember
• 15:08
  tomorrow,
• 15:09
  but
• 15:09
  I
• 15:09
  don't
• 15:10
  want
• 15:10
  to
• 15:10
  say
• 15:10
  out
• 15:11
  loud
• 15:11
  like,
• 15:12
  hey,
• 15:12
  Siri,
• 15:14
  remind
• 15:14
  me
• 15:14
  at
• 15:15
  8am
• 15:16
  to
• 15:17
  do
• 15:17
  blank
• 15:18
  or
• 15:18
  whatever.
• 15:19
  Yeah.
• 15:19
  And
• 15:20
  I
• 15:20
  wish
• 15:20
  I
• 15:21
  could
• 15:21
  just
• 15:21
  think
• 15:21
  it
• 15:22
  like
• 15:23
  it
• 15:23
  does
• 15:24
  the
• 15:24
  thing.
• 15:25
  Yeah.
• 15:25
  Okay.
• 15:26
  But
• 15:26
  here's
• 15:27
  what
• 15:28
  sounds
• 15:28
  so
• 15:29
  hard
• 15:29
  about
• 15:29
  that
• 15:29
  to
• 15:30
  me.
• 15:30
  We
• 15:31
  think
• 15:31
  about,
• 15:31
  like,
• 15:31
  AI
• 15:32
  models
• 15:32
  hallucinating,
• 15:33
  right?
• 15:33
  Yeah.
• 15:35
  Your
• 15:35
  internal,
• 15:36
  like,
• 15:37
  dialogue
• 15:38
  is
• 15:38
  actually,
• 15:39
  actually
• 15:39
  just,
• 15:39
  like,
• 15:39
  littered
• 15:40
  with
• 15:40
  so
• 15:40
  much
• 15:41
  random
• 15:41
  crazy
• 15:42
  shit.
• 15:42
  It's
• 15:42
  like,
• 15:42
  while
• 15:43
  I'm
• 15:43
  talking
• 15:43
  to
• 15:43
  you
• 15:43
  right
• 15:44
  now,
• 15:44
  and
• 15:44
  a
• 15:44
  plane
• 15:44
  goes
• 15:45
  by
• 15:45
  outside,
• 15:45
  there's
• 15:46
  like
• 15:46
  something
• 15:46
  that.
• 15:47
  Yeah,
• 15:47
  exactly.
• 15:47
  I
• 15:48
  imagine
• 15:48
  would.
• 15:48
  I
• 15:49
  also
• 15:49
  like,
• 15:50
  I
• 15:50
  wonder
• 15:50
  if
• 15:50
  they
• 15:50
  can
• 15:50
  delineate
• 15:51
  between
• 15:51
  like
• 15:52
  internal
• 15:52
  dialogue
• 15:53
  versus
• 15:53
  dialogue
• 15:53
  that
• 15:54
  you
• 15:54
  want
• 15:54
  to
• 15:55
  input
• 15:55
  into
• 15:55
  a
• 15:55
  device,
• 15:56
  but
• 15:57
  in
• 15:57
  a
• 15:57
  world
• 15:57
  where
• 15:57
  they
• 15:58
  can't.
• 15:58
  I
• 15:59
  wonder
• 15:59
  if
• 15:59
  it
• 15:59
  will
• 16:00
  make
• 16:00
  us
• 16:00
  much
• 16:00
  more
• 16:00
  aware
• 16:01
  of
• 16:01
  our
• 16:01
  internal
• 16:01
  dialogues.
• 16:02
  If
• 16:02
  it
• 16:02
  changes
• 16:03
  our
• 16:03
  like
• 16:04
  lines
• 16:04
  of
• 16:04
  think,
• 16:05
  like
• 16:05
  the
• 16:05
  way
• 16:05
  we
• 16:05
  think.
• 16:06
  Oh
• 16:06
  my
• 16:06
  God,
• 16:06
  that's
• 16:06
  crazy.
• 16:07
  I
• 16:07
  mean,
• 16:07
  as
• 16:08
  you
• 16:08
  know
• 16:08
  and
• 16:08
  like,
• 16:08
  as
• 16:09
  I'm
• 16:09
  sure
• 16:09
  I've
• 16:10
  read,
• 16:10
  the
• 16:10
  things
• 16:11
  where
• 16:11
  it's
• 16:11
  like
• 16:11
  how
• 16:12
  we
• 16:12
  think
• 16:12
  internally
• 16:13
  really
• 16:13
  affects
• 16:13
  our
• 16:14
  external
• 16:14
  world,
• 16:15
  you
• 16:15
  know,
• 16:15
  like
• 16:15
  when
• 16:16
  you
• 16:16
  have
• 16:16
  a
• 16:16
  very
• 16:16
  negative
• 16:17
  internal
• 16:17
  monologue,
• 16:17
  for
• 16:18
  example,
• 16:18
  it
• 16:18
  can
• 16:18
  really
• 16:19
  affect
• 16:19
  your
• 16:19
  life.
• 16:20
  Have
• 16:20
  you
• 16:20
  ever
• 16:20
  seen
• 16:20
  the
• 16:21
  movie
• 16:21
  Arrival?
• 16:22
  It's
• 16:23
  so
• 16:23
  good.
• 16:24
  So
• 16:24
  it
• 16:24
  does
• 16:25
  a
• 16:25
  really
• 16:25
  good
• 16:25
  job
• 16:25
  of
• 16:26
  kind
• 16:26
  of
• 16:26
  like
• 16:26
  helping
• 16:27
  explain
• 16:28
  the
• 16:28
  phenomena
• 16:29
  of
• 16:30
  how
• 16:30
  your
• 16:31
  brain
• 16:31
  processes
• 16:32
  things
• 16:32
  differently.
• 16:33
  Yeah,
• 16:34
  so
• 16:34
  that's
• 16:34
  another
• 16:34
  thing
• 16:35
  too
• 16:35
  actually
• 16:36
  with
• 16:36
  the
• 16:36
  data
• 16:36
  thing
• 16:37
  is
• 16:37
  like
• 16:37
  how
• 16:37
  people's
• 16:39
  minds
• 16:39
  internally
• 16:40
  work
• 16:40
  also
• 16:41
  is
• 16:41
  probably
• 16:41
  completely
• 16:42
  different
• 16:43
  depending
• 16:43
  on
• 16:43
  what
• 16:44
  language
• 16:44
  you
• 16:44
  speak
• 16:45
  and
• 16:45
  think.
• 16:45
  Yeah,
• 16:46
  you're
• 16:46
  right.
• 16:46
  Different
• 16:46
  languages,
• 16:47
  you
• 16:47
  know,
• 16:48
  like
• 16:48
  right
• 16:48
  to
• 16:48
  left,
• 16:48
  there's
• 16:48
  left,
• 16:49
  you
• 16:49
  know,
• 16:49
  like
• 16:49
  there's
• 16:50
  so
• 16:50
  many
• 16:50
  different
• 16:50
  things,
• 16:51
  characters,
• 16:52
  there's
• 16:52
  so
• 16:52
  many
• 16:52
  different
• 16:52
  languages
• 16:53
  that
• 16:53
  have
• 16:53
  different
• 16:53
  ways
• 16:54
  of
• 16:54
  writing.
• 16:54
  So
• 16:55
  thinking
• 16:55
  about
• 16:55
  that
• 16:56
  would
• 16:56
  be
• 16:56
  fascinating.
• 16:57
  Yeah.
• 16:58
  Well,
• 16:58
  today
• 16:58
  we
• 16:58
  have
• 16:58
  a
• 16:59
  really
• 16:59
  great
• 16:59
  guest
• 17:00
  who
• 17:01
  I
• 17:01
  love
• 17:01
  this
• 17:01
  conversation
• 17:02
  because
• 17:02
  it
• 17:02
  made
• 17:02
  me
• 17:03
  think
• 17:03
  a
• 17:03
  lot
• 17:03
  about
• 17:04
  beginning
• 17:04
  and
• 17:05
  to
• 17:05
  work
• 17:05
  with
• 17:05
  AI.
• 17:06
  But
• 17:06
  after
• 17:07
  this
• 17:07
  conversation
• 17:08
  I
• 17:08
  looked
• 17:08
  up
• 17:08
  a
• 17:09
  lot
• 17:09
  of
• 17:09
  like
• 17:09
  entry
• 17:09
  level
• 17:10
  tutorials
• 17:10
  on
• 17:10
  like
• 17:11
  how
• 17:11
  to
• 17:11
  get
• 17:11
  started.
• 17:12
  And
• 17:12
  I
• 17:12
  saw
• 17:13
  there's
• 17:13
  a
• 17:13
  lot
• 17:13
  great
• 17:14
  YouTube
• 17:14
  videos
• 17:14
  about
• 17:15
  getting
• 17:15
  started
• 17:15
  with
• 17:15
  Lovable,
• 17:16
  which
• 17:16
  I
• 17:16
  think
• 17:16
  we'd
• 17:16
  both
• 17:16
  agree
• 17:17
  is
• 17:17
  like
• 17:17
  a
• 17:17
  really
• 17:18
  good
• 17:18
  place
• 17:19
  to
• 17:19
  start
• 17:19
  for
• 17:20
  like
• 17:20
  if
• 17:20
  you're
• 17:20
  making
• 17:20
  your
• 17:21
  first
• 17:21
  website,
• 17:21
  your
• 17:22
  first
• 17:22
  web
• 17:22
  application.
• 17:23
  And
• 17:23
  so
• 17:23
  there's
• 17:24
  a
• 17:24
  lot
• 17:24
  out
• 17:24
  there
• 17:24
  if
• 17:24
  you're
• 17:25
  first
• 17:25
  getting
• 17:25
  started.
• 17:28
  Well,
• 17:29
  today
• 17:29
  I'm
• 17:29
  super
• 17:29
  excited
• 17:30
  to
• 17:30
  introduce
• 17:30
  someone
• 17:31
  that
• 17:31
  I've
• 17:31
  known
• 17:31
  for
• 17:31
  a
• 17:31
  very
• 17:32
  long
• 17:32
  time,
• 17:32
  long
• 17:32
  time.
• 17:33
  Navarro
• 17:33
  Wright
• 17:34
  and
• 17:34
  I
• 17:34
  used
• 17:34
  to
• 17:34
  work
• 17:34
  together,
• 17:35
  Global
• 17:35
  Grind,
• 17:35
  which
• 17:36
  is
• 17:36
  a
• 17:36
  media
• 17:37
  company
• 17:37
  co
• 17:37
  founded
• 17:37
  with
• 17:38
  Russell
• 17:38
  Simmons
• 17:38
  where
• 17:38
  he
• 17:39
  was
• 17:39
  cto,
• 17:40
  after
• 17:40
  which
• 17:40
  he
• 17:41
  was
• 17:41
  CTO
• 17:41
  of
• 17:41
  BET
• 17:42
  Interactive
• 17:43
  and
• 17:43
  also
• 17:44
  and
• 17:44
  then
• 17:44
  went
• 17:44
  on
• 17:44
  to
• 17:44
  Meta
• 17:45
  where
• 17:45
  he
• 17:46
  helped
• 17:46
  them
• 17:46
  launch
• 17:47
  Reels.
• 17:47
  Now
• 17:48
  he's
• 17:48
  CTO
• 17:48
  and
• 17:49
  COO
• 17:50
  of
• 17:50
  Mirror
• 17:51
  Digital.
• 17:51
  And
• 17:52
  we're
• 17:52
  going
• 17:52
  to
• 17:52
  talk
• 17:53
  today
• 17:53
  about
• 17:54
  how
• 17:54
  people
• 17:54
  are
• 17:55
  adopting
• 17:55
  AI
• 17:55
  and
• 17:56
  what
• 17:56
  he's
• 17:56
  seeing
• 17:56
  in
• 17:57
  the
• 17:57
  digital
• 17:57
  world.
• 17:58
  Welcome
• 17:58
  to
• 17:58
  varo,
• 17:59
  Sarah.
• 18:00
  I
• 18:00
  appreciate
• 18:00
  it,
• 18:00
  Becca,
• 18:01
  thanks
• 18:01
  for
• 18:01
  having
• 18:01
  me.
• 18:02
  I
• 18:02
  love
• 18:02
  what
• 18:02
  you
• 18:02
  guys
• 18:02
  are
• 18:02
  doing
• 18:03
  and
• 18:03
  I'm
• 18:03
  humbled
• 18:04
  to
• 18:04
  be
• 18:04
  a
• 18:04
  part
• 18:04
  of
• 18:04
  the
• 18:05
  journey.
• 18:05
  So
• 18:05
  thank
• 18:05
  you
• 18:06
  for
• 18:06
  having
• 18:06
  me.
• 18:07
  We're
• 18:07
  the
• 18:07
  humbled
• 18:07
  ones
• 18:08
  yeah,
• 18:08
  thanks.
• 18:08
  Agreed.
• 18:10
  So
• 18:10
  you've
• 18:11
  been
• 18:11
  doing
• 18:11
  this
• 18:11
  for
• 18:12
  three
• 18:12
  decades,
• 18:13
  since
• 18:14
  the
• 18:14
  launch
• 18:14
  of
• 18:14
  the
• 18:15
  Internet,
• 18:15
  all
• 18:16
  the
• 18:16
  big
• 18:16
  things
• 18:16
  that
• 18:16
  have
• 18:17
  happened
• 18:17
  since.
• 18:18
  So
• 18:18
  the
• 18:18
  question
• 18:19
  we
• 18:19
  ask
• 18:19
  everyone
• 18:20
  is
• 18:20
  on
• 18:20
  a
• 18:20
  scale
• 18:21
  of
• 18:21
  1
• 18:22
  to
• 18:22
  10,
• 18:23
  where
• 18:23
  1
• 18:24
  is,
• 18:24
  you
• 18:25
  know,
• 18:25
  we're
• 18:25
  all
• 18:25
  about
• 18:25
  to
• 18:25
  be
• 18:26
  batteries
• 18:26
  for
• 18:26
  the
• 18:26
  machine
• 18:27
  in
• 18:27
  the
• 18:27
  matrix.
• 18:28
  And
• 18:28
  10
• 18:29
  is
• 18:30
  I
• 18:30
  have
• 18:30
  a
• 18:30
  best
• 18:30
  friend
• 18:31
  Android
• 18:31
  who
• 18:32
  does
• 18:32
  my
• 18:32
  dishes
• 18:32
  and
• 18:33
  helps
• 18:33
  take
• 18:33
  care
• 18:33
  of
• 18:33
  my
• 18:33
  children.
• 18:34
  And
• 18:34
  it's
• 18:34
  wonderful.
• 18:35
  How
• 18:35
  are
• 18:35
  you
• 18:36
  feeling
• 18:36
  about
• 18:36
  the
• 18:37
  state
• 18:37
  of
• 18:37
  AI
• 18:37
  right
• 18:38
  now?
• 18:38
  Great
• 18:39
  question.
• 18:39
  So,
• 18:39
  you
• 18:40
  know,
• 18:40
  I
• 18:40
  think
• 18:40
  if
• 18:40
  I
• 18:40
  have
• 18:40
  to
• 18:41
  pick
• 18:41
  a
• 18:41
  number,
• 18:41
  I'm
• 18:42
  somewhere
• 18:42
  between
• 18:42
  a
• 18:42
  six
• 18:43
  and
• 18:43
  a
• 18:43
  seven.
• 18:43
  Right.
• 18:44
  I
• 18:44
  think
• 18:44
  I
• 18:45
  see
• 18:45
  the
• 18:45
  optimistic
• 18:46
  parts
• 18:46
  of
• 18:46
  it,
• 18:46
  but
• 18:46
  I
• 18:47
  also
• 18:47
  see
• 18:48
  where
• 18:48
  it
• 18:48
  can
• 18:48
  go
• 18:49
  really
• 18:49
  badly,
• 18:49
  really
• 18:50
  quickly.
• 18:51
  And
• 18:51
  the
• 18:51
  key
• 18:51
  part
• 18:51
  is
• 18:52
  I
• 18:52
  think
• 18:52
  that
• 18:52
  depends
• 18:53
  on
• 18:53
  us
• 18:53
  and
• 18:54
  I
• 18:54
  think
• 18:54
  that
• 18:54
  depends
• 18:55
  on
• 18:55
  how
• 18:56
  we
• 18:56
  educate,
• 18:56
  how
• 18:57
  we
• 18:57
  adopt
• 18:57
  people
• 18:58
  in
• 18:58
  the
• 18:58
  usage
• 18:58
  of
• 18:58
  it.
• 18:59
  And
• 18:59
  really
• 18:59
  how
• 18:59
  do
• 19:00
  we
• 19:00
  create
• 19:00
  that
• 19:00
  baseline?
• 19:01
  I
• 19:01
  don't
• 19:01
  think
• 19:01
  the
• 19:02
  baseline
• 19:02
  has
• 19:02
  been
• 19:02
  created
• 19:03
  yet,
• 19:03
  but
• 19:03
  I
• 19:03
  think
• 19:03
  the
• 19:03
  opportunity
• 19:04
  is
• 19:04
  there.
• 19:04
  So
• 19:04
  I'm
• 19:04
  going
• 19:05
  to
• 19:05
  go
• 19:05
  with
• 19:05
  six.
• 19:05
  Seven.
• 19:05
  You
• 19:06
  said
• 19:06
  don't
• 19:06
  feel
• 19:06
  like
• 19:06
  the
• 19:06
  baseline
• 19:07
  is
• 19:07
  created.
• 19:07
  How
• 19:08
  far
• 19:08
  away
• 19:08
  do
• 19:09
  you
• 19:09
  think
• 19:09
  we
• 19:09
  are
• 19:09
  from
• 19:10
  understanding
• 19:10
  that?
• 19:11
  I
• 19:11
  think
• 19:11
  first
• 19:12
  that
• 19:12
  people
• 19:12
  have
• 19:12
  a
• 19:12
  fundamental
• 19:13
  understanding
• 19:14
  of
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  value
• 19:15
  of
• 19:15
  what
• 19:15
  an
• 19:15
  AI
• 19:16
  tool
• 19:16
  can
• 19:16
  do
• 19:16
  for
• 19:16
  them.
• 19:17
  Right.
• 19:17
  Like
• 19:17
  I
• 19:17
  think,
• 19:18
  you
• 19:18
  know,
• 19:18
  some
• 19:19
  people
• 19:19
  are
• 19:19
  still
• 19:19
  using
• 19:19
  it,
• 19:20
  like
• 19:20
  Google,
• 19:20
  hey,
• 19:21
  tell
• 19:21
  me
• 19:21
  how
• 19:21
  to
• 19:21
  find
• 19:22
  X.
• 19:22
  Other
• 19:23
  people
• 19:23
  are
• 19:23
  using
• 19:23
  it
• 19:23
  as
• 19:24
  a
• 19:24
  catch
• 19:24
  all
• 19:25
  duplicator
• 19:25
  for
• 19:26
  their
• 19:26
  work,
• 19:26
  hey,
• 19:26
  write
• 19:27
  my
• 19:27
  paper.
• 19:28
  But
• 19:28
  I
• 19:28
  think
• 19:28
  a
• 19:29
  lot
• 19:29
  of
• 19:29
  people
• 19:29
  don't
• 19:29
  really
• 19:29
  understand
• 19:30
  that
• 19:30
  it's
• 19:30
  true
• 19:31
  use
• 19:31
  as
• 19:31
  being
• 19:31
  a
• 19:32
  thought
• 19:32
  partner
• 19:33
  and
• 19:33
  looking
• 19:33
  at
• 19:33
  it
• 19:33
  from
• 19:33
  the
• 19:34
  analogy
• 19:34
  that
• 19:35
  it
• 19:35
  helps
• 19:35
  you
• 19:36
  to
• 19:36
  accelerate
• 19:36
  because
• 19:37
  it
• 19:37
  has
• 19:37
  a
• 19:37
  basis
• 19:37
  level
• 19:38
  of
• 19:38
  knowledge
• 19:38
  that
• 19:38
  it
• 19:38
  would
• 19:39
  take
• 19:39
  you
• 19:39
  years
• 19:39
  to
• 19:39
  obtain
• 19:40
  that
• 19:40
  you
• 19:40
  can
• 19:41
  take
• 19:41
  advantage
• 19:41
  of.
• 19:41
  I
• 19:42
  just
• 19:42
  don't
• 19:42
  think
• 19:42
  we're
• 19:42
  there
• 19:43
  yet.
• 19:43
  And
• 19:43
  I
• 19:43
  think
• 19:43
  that's
• 19:44
  the
• 19:44
  foundational
• 19:44
  piece.
• 19:44
  Piece.
• 19:45
  The
• 19:45
  other
• 19:45
  part
• 19:45
  of
• 19:46
  that
• 19:46
  is
• 19:46
  I
• 19:46
  think
• 19:47
  people
• 19:47
  don't
• 19:47
  understand
• 19:48
  that
• 19:48
  there
• 19:48
  is
• 19:49
  no
• 19:49
  such
• 19:49
  thing
• 19:49
  as
• 19:50
  a
• 19:50
  one
• 19:50
  size
• 19:50
  fits
• 19:51
  all
• 19:51
  AI
• 19:52
  tool
• 19:52
  or
• 19:52
  LLM.
• 19:53
  Right.
• 19:53
  But
• 19:54
  I
• 19:54
  think
• 19:54
  we're
• 19:54
  acting
• 19:55
  as
• 19:55
  it
• 19:55
  is.
• 19:55
  Right.
• 19:56
  Like
• 19:56
  I
• 19:56
  think
• 19:56
  Chad
• 19:57
  GPT
• 19:57
  came
• 19:58
  out
• 19:58
  and
• 19:58
  had
• 19:58
  something
• 19:58
  which
• 19:59
  was
• 19:59
  unheard
• 19:59
  of,
• 20:00
  which
• 20:00
  was
• 20:00
  100
• 20:00
  of
• 20:01
  market
• 20:01
  share.
• 20:01
  It
• 20:01
  was
• 20:02
  literally
• 20:02
  the
• 20:02
  only
• 20:02
  AI
• 20:03
  tool
• 20:03
  in
• 20:03
  existence.
• 20:03
  Right.
• 20:04
  And
• 20:04
  you
• 20:04
  guys
• 20:04
  have
• 20:04
  been
• 20:04
  in
• 20:05
  technology,
• 20:05
  that's
• 20:05
  never
• 20:06
  happened.
• 20:06
  But
• 20:07
  their
• 20:07
  challenge
• 20:07
  is,
• 20:07
  as
• 20:08
  you
• 20:08
  know,
• 20:08
  is
• 20:08
  they
• 20:08
  tried
• 20:09
  to
• 20:09
  be
• 20:09
  the
• 20:09
  AI
• 20:09
  for
• 20:09
  everybody.
• 20:10
  And
• 20:10
  anybody
• 20:11
  who
• 20:11
  builds
• 20:11
  a
• 20:11
  product
• 20:11
  knows
• 20:12
  you
• 20:12
  can't
• 20:12
  build
• 20:12
  a
• 20:13
  product
• 20:13
  for
• 20:13
  everybody.
• 20:14
  It
• 20:14
  just
• 20:14
  doesn't
• 20:14
  work.
• 20:15
  So
• 20:15
  as
• 20:16
  you
• 20:16
  saw
• 20:16
  Claude
• 20:17
  come
• 20:17
  out
• 20:17
  and
• 20:17
  then
• 20:17
  you
• 20:17
  saw
• 20:18
  Gemini
• 20:18
  come
• 20:19
  out
• 20:19
  and
• 20:19
  then
• 20:19
  grok
• 20:20
  in
• 20:20
  the
• 20:20
  corner
• 20:20
  there.
• 20:21
  I
• 20:21
  think
• 20:21
  each
• 20:21
  one
• 20:22
  does
• 20:22
  things
• 20:22
  well.
• 20:23
  But
• 20:23
  I
• 20:23
  would
• 20:24
  say
• 20:24
  if
• 20:24
  you
• 20:24
  ask
• 20:24
  someone
• 20:25
  why
• 20:25
  they
• 20:26
  use
• 20:26
  one,
• 20:26
  it's
• 20:27
  usually
• 20:27
  because
• 20:27
  they
• 20:28
  heard
• 20:28
  someone
• 20:28
  tell
• 20:28
  them
• 20:28
  that's
• 20:29
  the
• 20:29
  one
• 20:29
  they
• 20:29
  should
• 20:29
  use.
• 20:29
  Right.
• 20:30
  Like
• 20:30
  it's
• 20:30
  not
• 20:31
  based
• 20:31
  on
• 20:31
  any
• 20:32
  foundational
• 20:32
  knowledge
• 20:33
  of
• 20:33
  one
• 20:33
  being
• 20:33
  better
• 20:33
  than
• 20:34
  the
• 20:34
  other.
• 20:34
  And
• 20:35
  I
• 20:35
  think
• 20:35
  that
• 20:35
  I
• 20:35
  could
• 20:35
  go
• 20:36
  through
• 20:36
  each
• 20:36
  one
• 20:36
  and
• 20:36
  tell
• 20:36
  you
• 20:37
  why
• 20:37
  they're
• 20:37
  good
• 20:37
  for
• 20:38
  certain
• 20:38
  things.
• 20:39
  And
• 20:39
  I
• 20:39
  think
• 20:39
  until
• 20:39
  we
• 20:40
  get
• 20:40
  to
• 20:40
  the
• 20:40
  point
• 20:40
  where
• 20:40
  everybody
• 20:41
  is
• 20:41
  at
• 20:41
  that
• 20:41
  level,
• 20:42
  then
• 20:42
  we're
• 20:42
  not
• 20:43
  at
• 20:43
  baseline.
• 20:43
  Because
• 20:44
  once
• 20:44
  we're
• 20:44
  at
• 20:44
  that
• 20:44
  point,
• 20:45
  then
• 20:45
  you'll
• 20:46
  see
• 20:46
  people
• 20:46
  really
• 20:46
  excel
• 20:47
  in
• 20:47
  the
• 20:47
  tools
• 20:48
  based
• 20:48
  on
• 20:48
  what
• 20:48
  they're
• 20:48
  good
• 20:49
  at,
• 20:49
  not
• 20:49
  just
• 20:49
  on
• 20:50
  what's
• 20:50
  popular.
• 20:51
  Yeah,
• 20:51
  that
• 20:51
  makes
• 20:51
  sense.
• 20:52
  So
• 20:52
  you're
• 20:52
  saying
• 20:52
  like,
• 20:52
  if
• 20:52
  the
• 20:53
  average
• 20:53
  person
• 20:53
  you're
• 20:54
  talking
• 20:54
  to
• 20:54
  is
• 20:54
  like,
• 20:55
  this
• 20:55
  is
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  tool
• 20:56
  I
• 20:56
  use
• 20:56
  and
• 20:56
  why
• 20:57
  instead
• 20:57
  of
• 20:57
  just
• 20:58
  like
• 20:58
  ChatGPT,
• 20:59
  that's
• 21:00
  when
• 21:00
  like,
• 21:00
  you
• 21:00
  feel
• 21:00
  like
• 21:00
  people
• 21:01
  are
• 21:01
  at
• 21:01
  least
• 21:01
  educated
• 21:02
  enough
• 21:02
  about
• 21:02
  it
• 21:03
  to
• 21:03
  like
• 21:03
  be
• 21:03
  able
• 21:03
  to
• 21:04
  compare
• 21:04
  and
• 21:04
  contrast
• 21:05
  and
• 21:06
  have
• 21:06
  an
• 21:06
  understanding
• 21:06
  of
• 21:06
  what
• 21:07
  it's
• 21:07
  doing.
• 21:07
  Yeah,
• 21:08
  I
• 21:08
  mean,
• 21:08
  if
• 21:08
  you
• 21:08
  look
• 21:09
  at
• 21:09
  it
• 21:09
  now,
• 21:10
  people
• 21:10
  don't
• 21:10
  understand
• 21:11
  it,
• 21:11
  but
• 21:12
  no
• 21:12
  one,
• 21:12
  because
• 21:12
  it's
• 21:13
  so
• 21:13
  saturated
• 21:14
  in
• 21:14
  media,
• 21:14
  no
• 21:15
  one
• 21:15
  will
• 21:15
  raise
• 21:15
  their
• 21:15
  hand
• 21:15
  and
• 21:16
  say
• 21:16
  they
• 21:16
  don't
• 21:16
  understand
• 21:17
  it.
• 21:17
  Like,
• 21:17
  I
• 21:18
  remember
• 21:18
  when
• 21:18
  the
• 21:18
  Internet
• 21:19
  was
• 21:19
  out,
• 21:19
  I
• 21:20
  had
• 21:20
  relatives
• 21:20
  who
• 21:20
  had
• 21:20
  no
• 21:21
  problem
• 21:21
  calling
• 21:21
  me,
• 21:21
  telling
• 21:22
  me
• 21:22
  that
• 21:22
  they
• 21:22
  don't
• 21:22
  understand
• 21:22
  the
• 21:23
  Internet
• 21:23
  right
• 21:23
  now.
• 21:24
  What
• 21:24
  people
• 21:24
  will
• 21:24
  say
• 21:25
  is,
• 21:25
  I
• 21:25
  hate
• 21:25
  it
• 21:26
  or
• 21:26
  it's
• 21:26
  going
• 21:27
  to
• 21:27
  take
• 21:27
  my
• 21:27
  job.
• 21:27
  But
• 21:28
  they
• 21:28
  won't
• 21:28
  admit
• 21:29
  that
• 21:29
  that's
• 21:29
  because
• 21:29
  they
• 21:30
  don't
• 21:30
  understand
• 21:30
  it.
• 21:31
  And
• 21:31
  if
• 21:31
  you
• 21:31
  don't
• 21:31
  understand
• 21:32
  something,
• 21:33
  then
• 21:33
  you
• 21:33
  can't
• 21:33
  really
• 21:33
  understand
• 21:34
  how
• 21:34
  it
• 21:34
  can
• 21:34
  add
• 21:35
  value.
• 21:35
  And
• 21:36
  then
• 21:36
  the
• 21:36
  other
• 21:36
  thing
• 21:36
  we
• 21:37
  have
• 21:37
  is,
• 21:37
  you
• 21:38
  know,
• 21:38
  I
• 21:38
  look
• 21:38
  of
• 21:38
  it
• 21:38
  as
• 21:39
  like
• 21:39
  a
• 21:39
  flea
• 21:39
  market
• 21:40
  where
• 21:40
  you
• 21:40
  go
• 21:40
  and
• 21:40
  everybody's
• 21:41
  trying
• 21:41
  to
• 21:41
  sell
• 21:41
  you
• 21:42
  wares.
• 21:42
  It's
• 21:42
  like,
• 21:42
  hey,
• 21:43
  here's
• 21:43
  my
• 21:43
  prompts,
• 21:44
  here's
• 21:44
  my
• 21:44
  custom
• 21:44
  GPT.
• 21:45
  Hey,
• 21:46
  here's
• 21:46
  the
• 21:46
  get
• 21:46
  rich
• 21:47
  quick
• 21:47
  prompt
• 21:47
  that
• 21:48
  you
• 21:48
  can
• 21:48
  use
• 21:48
  to
• 21:48
  become
• 21:48
  a
• 21:49
  millionaire
• 21:49
  tomorrow.
• 21:50
  But
• 21:50
  no
• 21:50
  one
• 21:51
  who's
• 21:51
  taking
• 21:51
  those
• 21:51
  things
• 21:52
  understands
• 21:52
  how
• 21:52
  they
• 21:53
  work.
• 21:53
  So
• 21:53
  then
• 21:53
  you
• 21:54
  have
• 21:54
  mass
• 21:54
  adoption
• 21:55
  of
• 21:55
  a
• 21:55
  tool,
• 21:55
  people
• 21:56
  who
• 21:56
  don't
• 21:56
  understand
• 21:56
  it,
• 21:57
  who
• 21:57
  are
• 21:57
  afraid
• 21:57
  of
• 21:57
  it,
• 21:57
  and
• 21:57
  the
• 21:58
  people
• 21:58
  who
• 21:58
  are
• 21:58
  using
• 21:58
  it
• 21:59
  are
• 21:59
  using
• 21:59
  it
• 21:59
  without
• 21:59
  any
• 22:00
  foundational
• 22:00
  guardrails.
• 22:02
  So
• 22:02
  how
• 22:02
  can
• 22:02
  you
• 22:02
  have
• 22:03
  foundation
• 22:03
  in
• 22:03
  that?
• 22:03
  Right.
• 22:04
  Because
• 22:04
  there's
• 22:05
  no
• 22:05
  level
• 22:05
  base.
• 22:06
  I
• 22:06
  think
• 22:06
  in
• 22:06
  the
• 22:06
  other
• 22:06
  technologies
• 22:07
  there's
• 22:07
  a
• 22:07
  level
• 22:08
  base
• 22:08
  that
• 22:08
  has
• 22:08
  been
• 22:08
  acquired
• 22:09
  because
• 22:10
  that
• 22:10
  technology
• 22:10
  rolled
• 22:11
  out
• 22:11
  gradually
• 22:11
  over
• 22:12
  time.
• 22:12
  But
• 22:13
  for
• 22:13
  AI,
• 22:13
  it
• 22:13
  was
• 22:13
  just
• 22:14
  here.
• 22:14
  And
• 22:15
  then
• 22:15
  you
• 22:15
  have
• 22:15
  people
• 22:15
  making
• 22:15
  knee
• 22:16
  jerk
• 22:16
  reactions
• 22:16
  because
• 22:17
  it
• 22:17
  exists.
• 22:17
  You
• 22:18
  have
• 22:18
  young
• 22:18
  adult
• 22:19
  children.
• 22:19
  What
• 22:20
  do
• 22:20
  you
• 22:20
  tell
• 22:20
  them
• 22:21
  about
• 22:21
  it?
• 22:21
  Like,
• 22:21
  how
• 22:22
  do
• 22:22
  you
• 22:22
  tell
• 22:22
  them
• 22:22
  to
• 22:22
  be
• 22:22
  responsible
• 22:23
  with
• 22:23
  it?
• 22:23
  It's
• 22:24
  a
• 22:24
  great
• 22:24
  question.
• 22:24
  So
• 22:24
  we've
• 22:25
  been
• 22:25
  having
• 22:25
  interesting
• 22:26
  debates,
• 22:26
  right,
• 22:26
  because
• 22:27
  their
• 22:28
  argument
• 22:28
  is
• 22:28
  that
• 22:29
  it
• 22:29
  is
• 22:29
  ruining
• 22:30
  creativity
• 22:31
  and
• 22:31
  things
• 22:31
  are
• 22:31
  being
• 22:32
  created
• 22:32
  without
• 22:32
  a
• 22:32
  soul,
• 22:33
  right?
• 22:33
  And
• 22:33
  their
• 22:34
  argument
• 22:34
  is,
• 22:34
  hey,
• 22:35
  I
• 22:35
  understand
• 22:36
  how
• 22:36
  it
• 22:36
  can
• 22:36
  help
• 22:36
  in
• 22:37
  business,
• 22:37
  but
• 22:37
  you
• 22:37
  shouldn't
• 22:38
  use
• 22:38
  it
• 22:38
  to
• 22:38
  create
• 22:38
  music.
• 22:39
  And
• 22:39
  my
• 22:39
  argument
• 22:40
  back
• 22:40
  to
• 22:40
  them
• 22:40
  is,
• 22:41
  this
• 22:41
  is
• 22:42
  not
• 22:42
  new.
• 22:43
  There's
• 22:43
  always
• 22:43
  been
• 22:44
  some
• 22:44
  new
• 22:44
  tool
• 22:44
  to
• 22:45
  do
• 22:45
  something.
• 22:46
  So,
• 22:46
  you
• 22:46
  know,
• 22:46
  in
• 22:47
  the
• 22:47
  music
• 22:47
  side,
• 22:47
  I
• 22:47
  talked
• 22:48
  to
• 22:48
  my
• 22:48
  son.
• 22:48
  I
• 22:48
  say,
• 22:48
  you
• 22:48
  use
• 22:49
  a
• 22:49
  beat
• 22:49
  machine.
• 22:50
  Are
• 22:50
  you
• 22:50
  creating
• 22:51
  the
• 22:51
  music
• 22:51
  or
• 22:51
  is
• 22:51
  the
• 22:51
  beat
• 22:52
  machine
• 22:52
  creating
• 22:52
  the
• 22:53
  music?
• 22:53
  The
• 22:53
  beat
• 22:53
  machine
• 22:54
  is
• 22:54
  technology,
• 22:55
  and
• 22:55
  you're
• 22:55
  not
• 22:56
  in
• 22:56
  the
• 22:56
  machine.
• 22:56
  So
• 22:57
  you
• 22:57
  can't
• 22:57
  say
• 22:57
  that
• 22:58
  it's
• 22:58
  not
• 22:59
  translating
• 22:59
  some
• 23:00
  version
• 23:00
  of
• 23:00
  what
• 23:00
  you're
• 23:01
  giving
• 23:01
  it
• 23:01
  and
• 23:01
  creating
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  output.
• 23:02
  But
• 23:03
  what
• 23:03
  you
• 23:03
  can
• 23:03
  say
• 23:04
  is
• 23:04
  that
• 23:04
  you
• 23:04
  initiated
• 23:05
  the
• 23:05
  output,
• 23:06
  right?
• 23:06
  And
• 23:07
  so
• 23:07
  our
• 23:07
  battles
• 23:07
  are
• 23:08
  all
• 23:08
  about,
• 23:08
  well,
• 23:08
  where
• 23:09
  does
• 23:09
  creativity
• 23:10
  start?
• 23:10
  Does
• 23:10
  this
• 23:10
  start
• 23:11
  at
• 23:11
  the
• 23:11
  initiation
• 23:12
  of
• 23:12
  the
• 23:12
  idea,
• 23:13
  or
• 23:13
  is
• 23:13
  it
• 23:13
  predicated
• 23:14
  on
• 23:14
  what
• 23:14
  tool
• 23:14
  you
• 23:15
  use?
• 23:16
  That's
• 23:16
  where
• 23:16
  people
• 23:16
  are
• 23:17
  getting
• 23:17
  hung
• 23:17
  up
• 23:17
  on
• 23:17
  it
• 23:18
  in.
• 23:18
  And
• 23:18
  I
• 23:18
  think
• 23:18
  that's
• 23:19
  where
• 23:19
  history
• 23:19
  comes
• 23:19
  into
• 23:20
  play.
• 23:21
  Because
• 23:21
  what
• 23:21
  we're
• 23:21
  seeing,
• 23:21
  innovation
• 23:22
  happens,
• 23:23
  right?
• 23:23
  Like
• 23:23
  we've
• 23:23
  seen
• 23:24
  the
• 23:24
  industrial
• 23:24
  age,
• 23:24
  the
• 23:25
  agricultural
• 23:25
  age,
• 23:25
  the
• 23:26
  partnership
• 23:26
  age,
• 23:27
  and
• 23:27
  there's
• 23:27
  always
• 23:28
  some
• 23:28
  innovation
• 23:29
  and
• 23:29
  there's
• 23:30
  always
• 23:30
  fear
• 23:30
  and
• 23:30
  anxiety
• 23:31
  and
• 23:31
  there's
• 23:32
  always
• 23:32
  collateral
• 23:33
  damage,
• 23:33
  right?
• 23:33
  The
• 23:34
  difference
• 23:34
  here
• 23:34
  is
• 23:35
  that
• 23:35
  they're
• 23:35
  all
• 23:35
  happening
• 23:36
  at
• 23:36
  the
• 23:36
  exact
• 23:36
  same
• 23:37
  time.
• 23:37
  Fear
• 23:37
  and
• 23:38
  anxiety,
• 23:38
  mass
• 23:39
  adoption
• 23:39
  and
• 23:39
  collateral
• 23:40
  damage,
• 23:40
  right?
• 23:41
  And
• 23:41
  that's
• 23:41
  why
• 23:41
  we
• 23:41
  can't
• 23:42
  handle
• 23:42
  it,
• 23:42
  because
• 23:42
  we
• 23:42
  don't
• 23:43
  have
• 23:43
  time
• 23:43
  to
• 23:43
  process
• 23:44
  which
• 23:44
  one
• 23:45
  we
• 23:45
  should
• 23:45
  focus
• 23:45
  on.
• 23:45
  Yeah,
• 23:46
  that's
• 23:46
  a
• 23:46
  really
• 23:46
  good
• 23:46
  point.
• 23:47
  Because
• 23:47
  in
• 23:47
  those
• 23:47
  other
• 23:47
  times,
• 23:48
  like
• 23:48
  imagine
• 23:48
  the
• 23:49
  industrial
• 23:49
  age,
• 23:50
  you
• 23:50
  to
• 23:50
  like
• 23:50
  build
• 23:50
  the
• 23:51
  factories.
• 23:52
  People
• 23:52
  saw
• 23:52
  the
• 23:52
  factories
• 23:53
  coming
• 23:53
  to
• 23:53
  town,
• 23:53
  they
• 23:54
  were
• 23:54
  worried.
• 23:55
  But
• 23:55
  it
• 23:55
  was
• 23:55
  years
• 23:56
  until
• 23:56
  there
• 23:57
  was
• 23:57
  a
• 23:57
  factory
• 23:57
  built.
• 23:58
  And
• 23:58
  so
• 23:58
  at
• 23:58
  that
• 23:59
  point,
• 23:59
  people
• 23:59
  had
• 24:00
  a
• 24:00
  lot
• 24:00
  of
• 24:00
  time
• 24:00
  to
• 24:00
  adjust.
• 24:01
  But
• 24:01
  we're
• 24:01
  seeing
• 24:01
  it
• 24:02
  so
• 24:02
  quickly
• 24:02
  where
• 24:02
  our
• 24:02
  jobs
• 24:03
  are
• 24:03
  changing
• 24:03
  right
• 24:04
  now,
• 24:04
  if.
• 24:04
  You
• 24:05
  look
• 24:05
  at
• 24:05
  each
• 24:05
  one,
• 24:05
  each
• 24:06
  one
• 24:06
  was
• 24:06
  shorter
• 24:06
  than
• 24:07
  the
• 24:07
  last
• 24:07
  one.
• 24:07
  If
• 24:07
  you
• 24:07
  go
• 24:07
  back
• 24:08
  to
• 24:08
  the
• 24:08
  agricultural
• 24:08
  age
• 24:09
  and
• 24:09
  then
• 24:09
  move
• 24:09
  up
• 24:09
  all
• 24:10
  the
• 24:10
  way
• 24:10
  to
• 24:10
  the
• 24:10
  Internet
• 24:11
  age,
• 24:11
  each
• 24:12
  one
• 24:12
  gets
• 24:12
  shorter.
• 24:13
  But
• 24:13
  to
• 24:14
  your
• 24:14
  point,
• 24:14
  there
• 24:14
  was
• 24:14
  a
• 24:15
  gradual
• 24:15
  rollout
• 24:16
  of
• 24:16
  it
• 24:16
  just
• 24:16
  because
• 24:16
  the
• 24:17
  most
• 24:17
  of
• 24:17
  those
• 24:17
  technologies
• 24:18
  require
• 24:18
  some
• 24:19
  infrastructure,
• 24:19
  right?
• 24:20
  You
• 24:20
  can't
• 24:20
  roll
• 24:21
  out
• 24:21
  the
• 24:21
  Internet
• 24:21
  without
• 24:21
  the
• 24:21
  CA
• 24:22
  cable,
• 24:22
  You
• 24:22
  can't
• 24:23
  roll
• 24:23
  out
• 24:23
  mobile
• 24:23
  phones
• 24:23
  without
• 24:24
  a
• 24:24
  cellular
• 24:24
  network.
• 24:25
  But
• 24:25
  this
• 24:26
  one,
• 24:26
  it
• 24:26
  just
• 24:26
  happened,
• 24:27
  right?
• 24:28
  You
• 24:28
  know,
• 24:28
  I
• 24:28
  look
• 24:28
  at
• 24:29
  it
• 24:29
  on
• 24:29
  multiple
• 24:29
  lens,
• 24:30
  I
• 24:30
  look
• 24:30
  at
• 24:30
  it
• 24:30
  as
• 24:31
  a
• 24:31
  technologist
• 24:31
  who's
• 24:32
  been
• 24:32
  in
• 24:32
  the
• 24:32
  business
• 24:32
  for
• 24:32
  30
• 24:33
  years,
• 24:33
  I
• 24:33
  look
• 24:33
  at
• 24:34
  it
• 24:34
  as
• 24:34
  an
• 24:34
  African
• 24:34
  American
• 24:35
  who's
• 24:35
  seen
• 24:36
  discrimination
• 24:36
  as
• 24:37
  it
• 24:37
  relates
• 24:37
  to
• 24:37
  technology.
• 24:38
  And
• 24:39
  I
• 24:39
  think
• 24:39
  on
• 24:39
  both
• 24:39
  sides
• 24:40
  there's
• 24:40
  opportunity.
• 24:41
  On
• 24:42
  the
• 24:42
  technologist
• 24:43
  side,
• 24:43
  all
• 24:43
  of
• 24:44
  us
• 24:44
  know
• 24:44
  that
• 24:44
  the
• 24:45
  barrier
• 24:45
  to
• 24:45
  entry
• 24:45
  in
• 24:46
  technology
• 24:46
  was
• 24:46
  always
• 24:47
  competency
• 24:47
  in
• 24:47
  a
• 24:47
  programming
• 24:48
  language,
• 24:49
  competency
• 24:49
  in
• 24:49
  mathematics.
• 24:50
  So
• 24:51
  there
• 24:51
  were
• 24:51
  many
• 24:51
  people
• 24:51
  who
• 24:51
  had
• 24:52
  ideas,
• 24:52
  but
• 24:52
  because
• 24:53
  they
• 24:53
  couldn't
• 24:53
  cross
• 24:53
  that
• 24:54
  barrier,
• 24:54
  they
• 24:54
  couldn't
• 24:55
  create.
• 24:55
  Well
• 24:56
  now
• 24:56
  if
• 24:56
  you
• 24:56
  can
• 24:56
  articulate
• 24:57
  the
• 24:57
  details
• 24:58
  to
• 24:58
  an
• 24:58
  LLM,
• 24:59
  you
• 24:59
  can
• 24:59
  create
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  thing
• 25:00
  that
• 25:00
  you
• 25:00
  didn't
• 25:01
  have
• 25:01
  that
• 25:01
  barrier
• 25:01
  to
• 25:02
  create
• 25:02
  before.
• 25:02
  But
• 25:03
  how
• 25:03
  often
• 25:04
  do
• 25:04
  you
• 25:04
  hear
• 25:04
  that
• 25:04
  articulated
• 25:05
  in
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  day
• 25:05
  to
• 25:06
  day
• 25:06
  interactions
• 25:06
  about
• 25:07
  AI?
• 25:07
  It's
• 25:07
  not
• 25:08
  right.
• 25:08
  So
• 25:08
  there's
• 25:08
  a
• 25:08
  whole
• 25:09
  demographic
• 25:10
  that's
• 25:10
  not
• 25:10
  meant,
• 25:10
  that's
• 25:11
  missed
• 25:11
  because
• 25:11
  no
• 25:12
  one
• 25:12
  said
• 25:12
  to
• 25:12
  them
• 25:12
  that
• 25:13
  hey,
• 25:14
  you
• 25:14
  worked
• 25:15
  medical
• 25:15
  records
• 25:15
  for
• 25:15
  30
• 25:16
  years,
• 25:16
  so
• 25:17
  now
• 25:17
  you
• 25:17
  can
• 25:17
  take
• 25:17
  that
• 25:18
  experience
• 25:18
  and
• 25:18
  make
• 25:19
  it
• 25:19
  monetizable
• 25:20
  by
• 25:20
  having
• 25:20
  a
• 25:20
  thought
• 25:20
  partner
• 25:21
  in
• 25:21
  AI.
• 25:21
  So
• 25:21
  that's
• 25:22
  one
• 25:22
  side.
• 25:22
  But
• 25:23
  then
• 25:23
  being
• 25:23
  an
• 25:24
  African
• 25:24
  American,
• 25:25
  everything
• 25:25
  I've
• 25:26
  seen
• 25:26
  in
• 25:26
  technology,
• 25:27
  whether
• 25:27
  it
• 25:27
  was
• 25:27
  my
• 25:27
  access
• 25:28
  to
• 25:28
  opportunities
• 25:29
  or
• 25:29
  the
• 25:30
  general
• 25:30
  populace,
• 25:31
  was
• 25:31
  always
• 25:31
  gate
• 25:32
  kept
• 25:32
  by
• 25:32
  that
• 25:33
  gradual
• 25:33
  rollout.
• 25:34
  Right.
• 25:34
  The
• 25:34
  Internet
• 25:34
  only
• 25:35
  went
• 25:35
  into
• 25:35
  certain
• 25:35
  areas.
• 25:36
  You
• 25:36
  know,
• 25:37
  cell
• 25:37
  phones
• 25:37
  were
• 25:37
  too
• 25:37
  cost
• 25:38
  prohibitive
• 25:38
  for
• 25:38
  certain
• 25:39
  audiences,
• 25:39
  right?
• 25:40
  But,
• 25:40
  but
• 25:40
  those
• 25:40
  eventually
• 25:41
  changed.
• 25:41
  But
• 25:42
  right
• 25:42
  now
• 25:43
  the
• 25:43
  technology
• 25:44
  moves
• 25:44
  too
• 25:44
  fast
• 25:44
  to
• 25:45
  be
• 25:45
  discriminatory,
• 25:46
  right?
• 25:46
  And
• 25:46
  so
• 25:47
  if
• 25:47
  someone
• 25:47
  let
• 25:47
  someone
• 25:48
  know
• 25:48
  that,
• 25:48
  that
• 25:49
  like
• 25:49
  literally
• 25:50
  there
• 25:50
  is
• 25:50
  nothing
• 25:50
  stopping
• 25:51
  you
• 25:51
  from
• 25:51
  learning
• 25:52
  Claude
• 25:53
  or
• 25:53
  Gemini
• 25:53
  or
• 25:53
  ChatGPT
• 25:54
  right
• 25:55
  now.
• 25:55
  And
• 25:55
  because
• 25:56
  they're
• 25:56
  moving
• 25:56
  so
• 25:57
  fast,
• 25:57
  they're
• 25:58
  not
• 25:58
  saying
• 25:58
  hey,
• 25:59
  here
• 25:59
  are
• 25:59
  the
• 25:59
  free
• 25:59
  courses
• 26:00
  for
• 26:00
  these
• 26:00
  people
• 26:01
  or
• 26:01
  that
• 26:01
  people,
• 26:02
  that
• 26:02
  conversation
• 26:03
  is
• 26:03
  not
• 26:03
  being
• 26:03
  had.
• 26:04
  It's
• 26:04
  either
• 26:04
  the
• 26:04
  fear
• 26:05
  based
• 26:05
  conversation
• 26:06
  or,
• 26:06
  or
• 26:06
  the
• 26:06
  elitist
• 26:07
  conversation
• 26:08
  where
• 26:08
  people
• 26:08
  talk
• 26:08
  about
• 26:09
  how
• 26:09
  they've
• 26:10
  automated
• 26:10
  30
• 26:11
  different
• 26:11
  people's
• 26:11
  jobs.
• 26:12
  There's
• 26:12
  no
• 26:12
  middle
• 26:13
  conversation
• 26:13
  about
• 26:13
  how
• 26:14
  do
• 26:14
  you
• 26:14
  translate
• 26:14
  your
• 26:15
  existing
• 26:16
  skills
• 26:16
  and
• 26:16
  unique
• 26:16
  talent,
• 26:17
  leveraging
• 26:18
  this
• 26:18
  tool
• 26:18
  to
• 26:19
  bring
• 26:19
  something
• 26:19
  to
• 26:19
  bear
• 26:19
  that
• 26:20
  you
• 26:20
  couldn't
• 26:20
  before.
• 26:21
  So
• 26:21
  you're
• 26:21
  saying
• 26:21
  that
• 26:22
  from
• 26:22
  your
• 26:23
  experiencing
• 26:24
  this,
• 26:25
  let's
• 26:25
  say
• 26:25
  AI
• 26:26
  era,
• 26:26
  in
• 26:27
  comparison
• 26:27
  with
• 26:27
  all
• 26:28
  of
• 26:28
  the
• 26:28
  other
• 26:29
  major
• 26:29
  technological
• 26:30
  changes
• 26:31
  that
• 26:31
  you've
• 26:31
  witnessed
• 26:32
  firsthand
• 26:32
  in
• 26:32
  the
• 26:33
  past,
• 26:33
  you,
• 26:33
  you
• 26:34
  would
• 26:35
  say
• 26:35
  that
• 26:36
  it
• 26:36
  is
• 26:37
  more
• 26:37
  democratized
• 26:38
  in
• 26:38
  terms
• 26:39
  of
• 26:39
  who
• 26:40
  can
• 26:40
  take
• 26:40
  advantage
• 26:40
  of
• 26:40
  and
• 26:41
  has
• 26:41
  access
• 26:41
  to
• 26:42
  this
• 26:43
  technology
• 26:44
  in
• 26:44
  comparison
• 26:44
  to
• 26:45
  previous
• 26:46
  sort
• 26:46
  of
• 26:46
  inflection
• 26:47
  points.
• 26:47
  Absolutely.
• 26:48
  One
• 26:48
  thing
• 26:48
  I
• 26:49
  have
• 26:49
  is
• 26:49
  I
• 26:49
  don't
• 26:49
  believe
• 26:50
  in
• 26:50
  coincidences,
• 26:50
  right?
• 26:51
  I
• 26:51
  think
• 26:51
  so.
• 26:52
  Let's
• 26:52
  be
• 26:52
  clear,
• 26:52
  right?
• 26:53
  The
• 26:53
  first
• 26:53
  thing
• 26:53
  people
• 26:53
  don't
• 26:53
  understand
• 26:54
  is
• 26:54
  AI
• 26:54
  has
• 26:54
  been
• 26:55
  around
• 26:55
  for
• 26:55
  a
• 26:55
  while,
• 26:55
  right?
• 26:56
  From
• 26:56
  Google
• 26:56
  Maps
• 26:57
  to,
• 26:57
  you
• 26:57
  know,
• 26:57
  A
• 26:57
  multitude
• 26:58
  of
• 26:58
  other
• 26:58
  applications.
• 26:59
  It's
• 26:59
  been
• 26:59
  resonant
• 27:00
  into
• 27:00
  our
• 27:01
  choices
• 27:01
  on
• 27:01
  Facebook
• 27:02
  and
• 27:02
  Instagram,
• 27:02
  to
• 27:03
  Netflix,
• 27:03
  et
• 27:03
  cetera.
• 27:04
  It's
• 27:04
  been
• 27:04
  here.
• 27:05
  The
• 27:05
  problem
• 27:05
  now
• 27:05
  is
• 27:06
  that
• 27:06
  it
• 27:06
  has
• 27:06
  a
• 27:06
  direct
• 27:06
  interface,
• 27:07
  right?
• 27:07
  So
• 27:07
  that's
• 27:08
  the
• 27:08
  change.
• 27:09
  But
• 27:09
  again,
• 27:09
  if
• 27:10
  it
• 27:10
  had
• 27:10
  come
• 27:10
  out
• 27:10
  before
• 27:11
  mobile
• 27:12
  phones,
• 27:12
  there
• 27:13
  would
• 27:13
  have
• 27:13
  been
• 27:13
  a
• 27:13
  restricted
• 27:13
  layer
• 27:14
  which
• 27:14
  was
• 27:14
  the
• 27:14
  cost
• 27:15
  and
• 27:15
  penetration
• 27:16
  of
• 27:16
  personal
• 27:17
  computers.
• 27:18
  That's
• 27:18
  not
• 27:18
  there.
• 27:19
  So
• 27:19
  literally
• 27:20
  there
• 27:20
  is
• 27:20
  no
• 27:20
  barrier.
• 27:21
  I
• 27:21
  would
• 27:22
  argue
• 27:22
  that
• 27:22
  the
• 27:22
  barrier
• 27:23
  is
• 27:24
  a
• 27:24
  mindset
• 27:24
  barrier,
• 27:25
  right?
• 27:25
  Because
• 27:25
  again,
• 27:26
  like
• 27:26
  we
• 27:26
  talked
• 27:27
  at
• 27:27
  the
• 27:27
  beginning,
• 27:28
  you
• 27:28
  would
• 27:28
  think
• 27:28
  if
• 27:28
  you
• 27:29
  looked
• 27:29
  on
• 27:29
  social
• 27:30
  streams
• 27:30
  that
• 27:30
  everybody
• 27:31
  in
• 27:31
  the
• 27:31
  world
• 27:31
  has
• 27:32
  every
• 27:32
  LLM
• 27:32
  on
• 27:33
  their
• 27:33
  phone
• 27:34
  and
• 27:34
  they're
• 27:34
  actively
• 27:35
  interacting
• 27:35
  with
• 27:36
  AI.
• 27:36
  But
• 27:36
  the
• 27:36
  reality
• 27:37
  is
• 27:38
  I
• 27:38
  can
• 27:38
  go
• 27:38
  in
• 27:38
  many
• 27:39
  places
• 27:39
  right
• 27:39
  now
• 27:40
  and
• 27:40
  there's
• 27:40
  no
• 27:40
  AI
• 27:41
  conversation
• 27:41
  happening
• 27:42
  or
• 27:42
  people
• 27:42
  don't
• 27:43
  even
• 27:43
  understand
• 27:43
  it.
• 27:44
  So
• 27:44
  that
• 27:44
  challenge
• 27:45
  is
• 27:45
  the
• 27:46
  only
• 27:46
  limitation
• 27:47
  is
• 27:47
  someone's
• 27:48
  awareness
• 27:49
  and
• 27:49
  someone's
• 27:50
  understanding
• 27:51
  that
• 27:51
  the
• 27:51
  opportunity
• 27:52
  is
• 27:52
  real
• 27:52
  for
• 27:52
  them.
• 27:52
  And
• 27:53
  I
• 27:53
  think
• 27:53
  that's
• 27:53
  the
• 27:53
  real
• 27:53
  barrier.
• 27:54
  Right?
• 27:54
  It's
• 27:54
  not
• 27:55
  a
• 27:55
  technological
• 27:55
  barrier.
• 27:56
  But
• 27:56
  and
• 27:56
  here's
• 27:57
  the
• 27:57
  other
• 27:57
  thing
• 27:57
  I'll
• 27:57
  say
• 27:57
  too
• 27:58
  is
• 27:58
  because
• 27:59
  you
• 27:59
  used
• 27:59
  the
• 27:59
  word
• 27:59
  that
• 28:00
  democratized.
• 28:01
  I
• 28:01
  don't
• 28:01
  think
• 28:01
  it's
• 28:01
  democratized
• 28:02
  because
• 28:03
  democracy
• 28:03
  seems
• 28:04
  people
• 28:04
  chose
• 28:04
  to
• 28:05
  do
• 28:05
  it
• 28:05
  for
• 28:05
  the
• 28:06
  good
• 28:06
  of
• 28:06
  a
• 28:06
  larger
• 28:07
  populace.
• 28:07
  I
• 28:08
  don't
• 28:08
  think
• 28:08
  they
• 28:08
  have
• 28:08
  a
• 28:08
  choice,
• 28:09
  right?
• 28:09
  Like
• 28:09
  there
• 28:10
  is
• 28:10
  no
• 28:10
  technology
• 28:11
  platform
• 28:11
  right
• 28:12
  now
• 28:12
  that
• 28:12
  is
• 28:12
  in
• 28:12
  the
• 28:13
  AI
• 28:13
  space
• 28:13
  that
• 28:14
  can
• 28:14
  move
• 28:14
  slow
• 28:15
  enough
• 28:15
  to
• 28:15
  say
• 28:15
  I'm
• 28:15
  going
• 28:15
  to
• 28:15
  gatekeep
• 28:16
  it
• 28:16
  because
• 28:17
  the
• 28:17
  speed
• 28:18
  of
• 28:18
  innovation
• 28:18
  is
• 28:19
  so
• 28:19
  fast,
• 28:19
  they
• 28:19
  would
• 28:19
  never
• 28:20
  win
• 28:20
  that
• 28:20
  race.
• 28:21
  But
• 28:21
  I
• 28:21
  think
• 28:22
  the
• 28:22
  gatekeeper
• 28:22
  right
• 28:22
  now,
• 28:23
  it's
• 28:23
  self
• 28:23
  imposed
• 28:23
  gatekeeping,
• 28:24
  which
• 28:24
  is
• 28:24
  almost
• 28:25
  worse,
• 28:25
  right?
• 28:25
  Because
• 28:26
  if
• 28:27
  you
• 28:27
  have
• 28:27
  access
• 28:27
  to
• 28:27
  it
• 28:28
  and
• 28:28
  you
• 28:28
  have
• 28:28
  the
• 28:28
  ability
• 28:28
  to
• 28:28
  do
• 28:29
  it
• 28:29
  and
• 28:29
  you
• 28:29
  just
• 28:29
  choose
• 28:29
  not
• 28:30
  to
• 28:30
  do
• 28:30
  it,
• 28:30
  it's
• 28:31
  like
• 28:31
  the
• 28:31
  people
• 28:31
  who
• 28:31
  didn't
• 28:32
  thought
• 28:32
  the
• 28:32
  world
• 28:32
  was
• 28:32
  flat
• 28:33
  so
• 28:33
  they
• 28:33
  never
• 28:33
  left
• 28:33
  their
• 28:33
  town.
• 28:34
  The
• 28:34
  other
• 28:34
  thing
• 28:35
  that
• 28:35
  I
• 28:35
  think
• 28:35
  a
• 28:36
  lot
• 28:36
  about
• 28:36
  in
• 28:37
  trying
• 28:37
  to
• 28:38
  view
• 28:39
  what
• 28:39
  this
• 28:39
  must
• 28:40
  feel
• 28:41
  like
• 28:41
  or
• 28:41
  look
• 28:41
  like
• 28:42
  outside
• 28:42
  of
• 28:42
  my
• 28:43
  very
• 28:43
  small
• 28:44
  little
• 28:44
  tech
• 28:44
  bubble,
• 28:45
  which
• 28:45
  to
• 28:45
  your
• 28:46
  point,
• 28:46
  it's
• 28:46
  like,
• 28:46
  oh,
• 28:47
  everyone's
• 28:47
  building
• 28:48
  an
• 28:48
  open
• 28:48
  claw
• 28:49
  right
• 28:49
  now,
• 28:49
  you
• 28:50
  know,
• 28:50
  like.
• 28:50
  Which
• 28:51
  is
• 28:51
  obviously
• 28:51
  not
• 28:53
  true
• 28:53
  at
• 28:54
  large.
• 28:55
  Think
• 28:55
  about
• 28:56
  like
• 28:57
  the
• 28:57
  main
• 28:58
  sort
• 28:58
  of
• 28:59
  user
• 28:59
  experience
• 29:00
  and
• 29:00
  like
• 29:00
  UI
• 29:01
  that
• 29:01
  people
• 29:01
  interact
• 29:02
  with
• 29:02
  AI
• 29:02
  through.
• 29:03
  Which
• 29:03
  to
• 29:03
  your
• 29:03
  point
• 29:04
  is
• 29:04
  like
• 29:04
  typically
• 29:05
  a
• 29:05
  chat
• 29:06
  interface.
• 29:06
  ChatGPT,
• 29:07
  Claude
• 29:07
  Gemini.
• 29:08
  I
• 29:08
  wonder
• 29:09
  a
• 29:09
  lot
• 29:09
  if
• 29:09
  that
• 29:10
  is
• 29:10
  a
• 29:11
  big
• 29:11
  part
• 29:11
  of
• 29:12
  why
• 29:13
  most
• 29:13
  consumers
• 29:14
  don't
• 29:15
  really
• 29:16
  know
• 29:17
  what
• 29:17
  they
• 29:17
  can
• 29:18
  do
• 29:18
  with
• 29:19
  AI.
• 29:19
  Because
• 29:20
  the
• 29:20
  product
• 29:21
  that
• 29:21
  has
• 29:21
  really
• 29:22
  been
• 29:23
  evolved
• 29:23
  and
• 29:23
  innovated
• 29:24
  on
• 29:24
  is
• 29:24
  the
• 29:24
  underlying
• 29:25
  model.
• 29:26
  The
• 29:26
  actual
• 29:27
  interface
• 29:27
  that
• 29:28
  you're
• 29:28
  interacting
• 29:28
  with
• 29:28
  hasn't
• 29:29
  changed
• 29:29
  that
• 29:29
  much.
• 29:30
  So
• 29:30
  when
• 29:30
  you
• 29:30
  go
• 29:30
  to
• 29:30
  it,
• 29:31
  it's
• 29:31
  still
• 29:31
  the
• 29:31
  blank
• 29:32
  page
• 29:32
  problem
• 29:32
  of,
• 29:33
  like,
• 29:34
  what
• 29:34
  do
• 29:34
  I
• 29:34
  do?
• 29:34
  And
• 29:35
  part
• 29:35
  of
• 29:36
  that
• 29:36
  is,
• 29:36
  like,
• 29:36
  knowing
• 29:37
  what
• 29:37
  you
• 29:37
  even
• 29:37
  can
• 29:37
  ask
• 29:38
  to
• 29:38
  do
• 29:39
  and
• 29:39
  what
• 29:40
  do
• 29:40
  you
• 29:40
  think
• 29:40
  about
• 29:41
  the
• 29:41
  impact
• 29:41
  of
• 29:42
  that?
• 29:42
  So
• 29:42
  I
• 29:43
  agree.
• 29:43
  I
• 29:43
  think
• 29:44
  there
• 29:44
  needs
• 29:44
  to
• 29:44
  be
• 29:45
  a
• 29:45
  comfort
• 29:46
  education
• 29:47
  piece
• 29:47
  to
• 29:47
  your
• 29:47
  point.
• 29:48
  Right?
• 29:48
  Like,
• 29:49
  right
• 29:49
  now,
• 29:49
  if
• 29:49
  I
• 29:49
  go
• 29:50
  online,
• 29:50
  I
• 29:51
  can
• 29:51
  find
• 29:51
  20
• 29:51
  different
• 29:52
  posts
• 29:52
  that
• 29:52
  are
• 29:52
  giving
• 29:53
  me
• 29:53
  a
• 29:53
  prompt
• 29:53
  that
• 29:53
  does
• 29:53
  this
• 29:54
  or
• 29:54
  prompt
• 29:54
  that
• 29:54
  does
• 29:54
  that.
• 29:55
  But
• 29:55
  there's
• 29:55
  very
• 29:55
  few
• 29:56
  posts
• 29:56
  that
• 29:56
  say,
• 29:56
  hey,
• 29:57
  this
• 29:57
  is
• 29:57
  what
• 29:57
  a
• 29:57
  prompt
• 29:57
  does.
• 29:58
  This
• 29:58
  is,
• 29:58
  you
• 29:58
  know,
• 29:59
  context.
• 30:00
  I
• 30:01
  guarantee
• 30:01
  you
• 30:01
  that
• 30:01
  if
• 30:01
  I
• 30:02
  said
• 30:02
  that
• 30:02
  to
• 30:02
  my
• 30:02
  mom,
• 30:02
  she'd
• 30:03
  be
• 30:03
  like,
• 30:03
  what's
• 30:03
  a
• 30:03
  prompt?
• 30:04
  Exactly.
• 30:05
  But
• 30:05
  here's
• 30:05
  the
• 30:05
  other
• 30:05
  way
• 30:06
  around.
• 30:06
  That
• 30:06
  too,
• 30:06
  though,
• 30:07
  is
• 30:07
  I've
• 30:07
  been
• 30:08
  successful
• 30:08
  in
• 30:08
  technology
• 30:09
  because
• 30:09
  almost
• 30:09
  every
• 30:10
  role
• 30:10
  I've
• 30:10
  had,
• 30:10
  I've
• 30:11
  had
• 30:11
  the
• 30:11
  role
• 30:11
  of
• 30:11
  a
• 30:12
  translator.
• 30:12
  So
• 30:12
  how
• 30:13
  do
• 30:13
  you
• 30:13
  understand
• 30:14
  the
• 30:14
  technology
• 30:14
  enough
• 30:15
  to
• 30:15
  deliver
• 30:16
  on
• 30:16
  it?
• 30:16
  But
• 30:17
  how
• 30:17
  do
• 30:17
  you
• 30:17
  articulate
• 30:17
  in
• 30:18
  a
• 30:18
  way
• 30:18
  that
• 30:18
  you
• 30:18
  unblack
• 30:19
  box
• 30:19
  it
• 30:20
  like,
• 30:20
  you
• 30:20
  know,
• 30:20
  I'm
• 30:21
  a
• 30:21
  date
• 30:21
  myself
• 30:21
  because
• 30:22
  Sarah
• 30:23
  already
• 30:23
  said
• 30:23
  we've
• 30:24
  been
• 30:24
  working
• 30:24
  together
• 30:24
  for
• 30:24
  a
• 30:24
  long
• 30:25
  time.
• 30:25
  My
• 30:26
  first
• 30:26
  programming
• 30:26
  language
• 30:27
  was
• 30:27
  cobol.
• 30:28
  Oh,
• 30:28
  nice.
• 30:29
  COBOL
• 30:30
  was.
• 30:30
  You
• 30:31
  write
• 30:31
  it
• 30:31
  in
• 30:31
  a
• 30:31
  long
• 30:32
  line,
• 30:32
  and
• 30:32
  then
• 30:32
  you
• 30:32
  print
• 30:33
  out
• 30:33
  these
• 30:33
  reams
• 30:33
  of
• 30:34
  paper,
• 30:34
  and
• 30:34
  you
• 30:34
  have
• 30:34
  to
• 30:34
  go
• 30:35
  line
• 30:35
  by
• 30:35
  line
• 30:35
  to
• 30:36
  find
• 30:36
  your
• 30:36
  mistake.
• 30:37
  So
• 30:37
  to
• 30:37
  go
• 30:38
  from
• 30:38
  that
• 30:38
  to
• 30:39
  where
• 30:39
  I
• 30:39
  can
• 30:39
  open
• 30:39
  my
• 30:40
  phone
• 30:40
  and
• 30:40
  talk
• 30:40
  to
• 30:40
  something,
• 30:41
  and
• 30:41
  then
• 30:42
  at
• 30:42
  the
• 30:42
  end
• 30:42
  of
• 30:42
  it,
• 30:42
  say,
• 30:42
  hey,
• 30:43
  give
• 30:43
  me
• 30:43
  the
• 30:43
  prompt
• 30:44
  to
• 30:44
  do
• 30:44
  this
• 30:44
  so
• 30:45
  I
• 30:45
  don't
• 30:45
  have
• 30:45
  to
• 30:45
  start
• 30:45
  from
• 30:46
  scratch.
• 30:46
  It's
• 30:47
  a
• 30:47
  limitless
• 30:47
  opportunity.
• 30:48
  But
• 30:48
  that's
• 30:48
  because
• 30:49
  I
• 30:50
  know
• 30:50
  the
• 30:50
  evolution.
• 30:51
  To
• 30:51
  your
• 30:51
  point,
• 30:52
  if
• 30:52
  I
• 30:52
  don't
• 30:52
  know
• 30:53
  the
• 30:53
  evolution,
• 30:54
  it's
• 30:54
  still
• 30:54
  all
• 30:55
  science
• 30:55
  fiction
• 30:55
  to
• 30:55
  me.
• 30:56
  And
• 30:56
  I
• 30:56
  think
• 30:56
  we
• 30:56
  don't
• 30:56
  do
• 30:57
  a
• 30:57
  good
• 30:57
  enough
• 30:57
  job
• 30:58
  of
• 30:59
  demystifying
• 30:59
  something
• 31:00
  and
• 31:00
  translating
• 31:01
  it
• 31:01
  to
• 31:01
  something
• 31:02
  someone
• 31:02
  knows.
• 31:03
  I'm
• 31:03
  sure
• 31:03
  the
• 31:04
  numbers
• 31:04
  are
• 31:04
  fairly
• 31:05
  low
• 31:05
  because
• 31:05
  no
• 31:05
  one
• 31:05
  doesn't
• 31:06
  think
• 31:06
  they
• 31:06
  have
• 31:06
  to
• 31:06
  go
• 31:07
  learn
• 31:07
  the
• 31:07
  foundational
• 31:07
  stuff.
• 31:08
  They're
• 31:08
  like,
• 31:08
  I'm
• 31:08
  just
• 31:09
  here
• 31:09
  doing
• 31:09
  it,
• 31:09
  which
• 31:10
  creates
• 31:10
  slop.
• 31:11
  And
• 31:11
  the
• 31:11
  other
• 31:11
  thing
• 31:11
  I'll
• 31:12
  give
• 31:12
  you
• 31:12
  too
• 31:12
  is,
• 31:13
  do
• 31:13
  you
• 31:13
  understand
• 31:14
  the
• 31:14
  output?
• 31:14
  So
• 31:15
  everybody's
• 31:15
  like,
• 31:15
  I
• 31:15
  create
• 31:16
  an
• 31:16
  artifact
• 31:16
  or
• 31:17
  it
• 31:17
  built
• 31:17
  my
• 31:17
  site
• 31:18
  in
• 31:18
  two
• 31:18
  seconds.
• 31:18
  But
• 31:18
  nobody
• 31:19
  tells
• 31:19
  you
• 31:19
  that
• 31:19
  you
• 31:19
  have
• 31:20
  to
• 31:20
  host
• 31:20
  it
• 31:20
  somewhere.
• 31:21
  Nobody
• 31:21
  tells
• 31:21
  you
• 31:21
  that.
• 31:21
  Exactly.
• 31:22
  You
• 31:22
  know,
• 31:23
  all
• 31:23
  of
• 31:23
  these
• 31:23
  different
• 31:23
  layers,
• 31:24
  we're
• 31:24
  kind
• 31:24
  of
• 31:24
  skipping
• 31:25
  over
• 31:25
  them.
• 31:26
  So
• 31:26
  that
• 31:26
  will
• 31:26
  make
• 31:27
  someone
• 31:27
  be
• 31:27
  deterred
• 31:28
  too.
• 31:28
  So
• 31:28
  imagine
• 31:28
  if
• 31:28
  someone
• 31:29
  says
• 31:29
  to
• 31:29
  you
• 31:30
  that
• 31:30
  AI
• 31:30
  is
• 31:30
  super
• 31:31
  easy
• 31:31
  and
• 31:32
  you
• 31:32
  can
• 31:32
  do
• 31:32
  whatever
• 31:32
  you
• 31:33
  want
• 31:33
  with
• 31:33
  it,
• 31:33
  and
• 31:33
  you
• 31:33
  go
• 31:33
  in
• 31:33
  there
• 31:33
  and
• 31:34
  you
• 31:34
  speak
• 31:34
  to
• 31:34
  and
• 31:34
  it
• 31:34
  creates
• 31:34
  this
• 31:35
  beautiful
• 31:35
  website,
• 31:35
  but
• 31:35
  then
• 31:36
  you
• 31:36
  have
• 31:36
  no
• 31:36
  idea
• 31:36
  how
• 31:37
  to
• 31:37
  make
• 31:37
  it
• 31:37
  live.
• 31:38
  That
• 31:38
  will
• 31:38
  send
• 31:38
  you
• 31:38
  running
• 31:39
  for
• 31:39
  the
• 31:39
  hills
• 31:39
  faster
• 31:39
  than
• 31:40
  anything
• 31:40
  else.
• 31:40
  And
• 31:40
  that's
• 31:41
  what
• 31:41
  we're
• 31:41
  missing.
• 31:42
  And
• 31:42
  to
• 31:42
  me,
• 31:42
  there's
• 31:42
  a
• 31:42
  huge
• 31:43
  opportunity
• 31:44
  for
• 31:44
  people
• 31:44
  who
• 31:45
  are
• 31:45
  technically
• 31:45
  literate
• 31:46
  to
• 31:46
  bridge
• 31:46
  that
• 31:47
  gap.
• 31:47
  So
• 31:47
  to
• 31:48
  answer
• 31:48
  your
• 31:48
  question,
• 31:48
  I
• 31:48
  think
• 31:49
  that's
• 31:49
  the
• 31:49
  challenge
• 31:50
  of,
• 31:50
  on
• 31:51
  one
• 31:51
  hand
• 31:51
  it's
• 31:51
  jumping
• 31:52
  barriers,
• 31:52
  but
• 31:53
  on
• 31:53
  the
• 31:53
  other
• 31:53
  hand,
• 31:53
  it's
• 31:53
  so
• 31:54
  easier.
• 31:54
  It's
• 31:55
  missing
• 31:55
  the
• 31:55
  necessary
• 31:56
  barriers
• 31:56
  that
• 31:56
  we
• 31:57
  had
• 31:57
  to
• 31:57
  go
• 31:57
  through,
• 31:57
  right?
• 31:58
  Like
• 31:58
  we
• 31:58
  had
• 31:58
  to
• 31:58
  learn
• 31:59
  HTML
• 31:59
  and
• 31:59
  then
• 31:59
  we
• 32:00
  had
• 32:00
  to
• 32:00
  learn
• 32:00
  how
• 32:01
  web
• 32:01
  servers
• 32:01
  work
• 32:01
  and
• 32:02
  how
• 32:02
  to
• 32:02
  learn
• 32:02
  how
• 32:02
  we
• 32:02
  had
• 32:02
  to
• 32:02
  do
• 32:03
  an
• 32:03
  index
• 32:03
  HTML
• 32:04
  for
• 32:04
  that
• 32:04
  file
• 32:04
  to
• 32:04
  show,
• 32:05
  like,
• 32:05
  we
• 32:05
  had
• 32:05
  to
• 32:05
  go
• 32:05
  through
• 32:06
  that.
• 32:06
  I've
• 32:06
  called
• 32:06
  it
• 32:06
  a
• 32:07
  cesspool.
• 32:07
  I
• 32:08
  mean,
• 32:08
  it's.
• 32:08
  I
• 32:08
  watch
• 32:09
  so
• 32:09
  much
• 32:09
  now
• 32:09
  and
• 32:09
  just
• 32:10
  so
• 32:10
  many
• 32:10
  people
• 32:10
  who
• 32:10
  just
• 32:11
  have
• 32:11
  no
• 32:11
  prior
• 32:11
  training,
• 32:12
  they're
• 32:13
  taking
• 32:13
  prompts
• 32:13
  that
• 32:13
  they
• 32:14
  pick
• 32:14
  from
• 32:14
  some
• 32:14
  person's
• 32:15
  profile,
• 32:15
  putting
• 32:16
  it
• 32:16
  on
• 32:16
  their
• 32:16
  profile,
• 32:17
  and
• 32:17
  acting
• 32:17
  like
• 32:17
  they're
• 32:18
  the
• 32:18
  expert
• 32:18
  so
• 32:19
  that
• 32:19
  you
• 32:19
  take
• 32:19
  information
• 32:20
  from
• 32:20
  them.
• 32:20
  It's.
• 32:21
  It's
• 32:21
  just
• 32:21
  crazy
• 32:22
  hearing
• 32:22
  what
• 32:22
  you're
• 32:23
  saying.
• 32:23
  I
• 32:23
  imagine
• 32:23
  you
• 32:24
  are
• 32:25
  in
• 32:25
  a
• 32:25
  very
• 32:25
  unique
• 32:26
  place
• 32:27
  because
• 32:27
  you
• 32:27
  interact
• 32:28
  with
• 32:28
  a
• 32:28
  lot
• 32:28
  of
• 32:28
  the
• 32:28
  African
• 32:28
  American
• 32:29
  community
• 32:29
  and
• 32:30
  tech.
• 32:31
  You've
• 32:31
  been
• 32:32
  in
• 32:32
  tech
• 32:32
  for
• 32:32
  a
• 32:32
  long
• 32:32
  time,
• 32:32
  which
• 32:33
  is
• 32:33
  notoriously
• 32:34
  not
• 32:34
  a
• 32:35
  very
• 32:35
  diverse
• 32:35
  place.
• 32:36
  And
• 32:36
  so
• 32:37
  you
• 32:37
  have
• 32:37
  insight
• 32:38
  into
• 32:38
  the
• 32:39
  tech
• 32:39
  community
• 32:39
  as
• 32:40
  well.
• 32:40
  Are
• 32:40
  you
• 32:41
  seeing
• 32:41
  creators
• 32:41
  now
• 32:42
  that
• 32:42
  are
• 32:42
  starting
• 32:42
  to
• 32:43
  get
• 32:43
  involved
• 32:43
  in
• 32:43
  this
• 32:43
  space,
• 32:44
  or
• 32:44
  do
• 32:44
  you
• 32:44
  feel
• 32:44
  like
• 32:44
  you're
• 32:45
  just
• 32:45
  running
• 32:46
  through
• 32:46
  town
• 32:46
  yelling
• 32:47
  and
• 32:47
  trying
• 32:47
  to
• 32:47
  get
• 32:47
  people
• 32:47
  involved?
• 32:48
  I
• 32:49
  think
• 32:49
  her
• 32:49
  name
• 32:49
  is
• 32:50
  Sabrina
• 32:50
  Romanoff.
• 32:51
  I
• 32:51
  think
• 32:51
  that's
• 32:52
  one.
• 32:52
  You
• 32:52
  know,
• 32:53
  she's
• 32:53
  basically
• 32:53
  giving
• 32:54
  it
• 32:54
  away.
• 32:54
  She's
• 32:55
  like,
• 32:55
  I'm
• 32:55
  removing
• 32:56
  the
• 32:56
  fluff.
• 32:56
  I'm
• 32:56
  giving,
• 32:57
  giving,
• 32:57
  no
• 32:57
  nonsense.
• 32:58
  Then
• 32:58
  there's
• 32:59
  another
• 32:59
  guy.
• 32:59
  AI
• 33:00
  Rome
• 33:00
  is
• 33:00
  an
• 33:00
  African
• 33:00
  American
• 33:01
  guy
• 33:01
  who
• 33:01
  gives
• 33:02
  tips,
• 33:02
  right?
• 33:02
  I
• 33:03
  think
• 33:03
  they're
• 33:03
  out
• 33:03
  there.
• 33:04
  I
• 33:04
  think
• 33:04
  everybody
• 33:05
  is
• 33:05
  going
• 33:05
  on
• 33:05
  in
• 33:06
  the
• 33:06
  premise
• 33:06
  of
• 33:06
  the
• 33:06
  assumption
• 33:07
  that
• 33:07
  the
• 33:07
  people
• 33:08
  they're
• 33:08
  talking
• 33:08
  to
• 33:09
  are
• 33:09
  already
• 33:09
  technically
• 33:10
  literate.
• 33:10
  I
• 33:11
  think
• 33:11
  that's
• 33:11
  a
• 33:11
  mistake.
• 33:12
  And
• 33:12
  I
• 33:12
  think
• 33:12
  that's.
• 33:13
  We
• 33:13
  know
• 33:13
  from
• 33:13
  a
• 33:14
  product
• 33:14
  management
• 33:14
  perspective,
• 33:15
  you
• 33:16
  have
• 33:16
  to
• 33:16
  account
• 33:16
  for
• 33:17
  every
• 33:17
  Persona
• 33:17
  that
• 33:17
  may
• 33:18
  use
• 33:18
  your
• 33:18
  app,
• 33:18
  right?
• 33:19
  And
• 33:19
  if
• 33:19
  you
• 33:19
  ignore
• 33:19
  a
• 33:19
  Persona,
• 33:20
  that's
• 33:20
  a
• 33:20
  large
• 33:20
  segment
• 33:21
  of
• 33:21
  the
• 33:21
  audience,
• 33:22
  I
• 33:22
  think
• 33:22
  a
• 33:22
  lot
• 33:23
  of
• 33:23
  people
• 33:23
  are
• 33:23
  doing
• 33:23
  the
• 33:23
  education,
• 33:24
  are
• 33:24
  ignoring
• 33:24
  that
• 33:24
  person
• 33:25
  Persona
• 33:25
  and
• 33:26
  articulating,
• 33:26
  in
• 33:27
  a
• 33:27
  way,
• 33:27
  making
• 33:27
  everyday
• 33:28
  parallels.
• 33:29
  I
• 33:29
  gave
• 33:29
  one
• 33:29
  talk
• 33:30
  and
• 33:30
  I
• 33:30
  said
• 33:30
  the
• 33:30
  beauty
• 33:31
  of
• 33:31
  AI,
• 33:31
  especially
• 33:32
  voice
• 33:32
  mode
• 33:33
  on
• 33:33
  the
• 33:33
  phone,
• 33:33
  is
• 33:34
  no
• 33:34
  matter
• 33:35
  what
• 33:35
  your
• 33:35
  background,
• 33:36
  you
• 33:37
  know
• 33:37
  how
• 33:37
  to
• 33:37
  talk.
• 33:38
  So
• 33:38
  if
• 33:38
  you
• 33:38
  can
• 33:39
  just
• 33:39
  talk
• 33:39
  to
• 33:39
  it
• 33:39
  and
• 33:39
  have
• 33:40
  a
• 33:40
  conversation
• 33:40
  with
• 33:41
  it,
• 33:41
  you
• 33:41
  can
• 33:41
  move
• 33:42
  forward
• 33:42
  in
• 33:42
  your
• 33:42
  career
• 33:43
  or
• 33:43
  your
• 33:43
  personal
• 33:43
  life
• 33:44
  or
• 33:44
  your
• 33:44
  business.
• 33:45
  Like
• 33:45
  I
• 33:45
  started
• 33:45
  this
• 33:45
  series
• 33:46
  called
• 33:46
  the
• 33:46
  ABCs
• 33:47
  of
• 33:47
  AI
• 33:47
  and
• 33:48
  I
• 33:48
  really
• 33:48
  take
• 33:48
  a
• 33:48
  term
• 33:49
  I
• 33:49
  use
• 33:50
  AI
• 33:50
  to
• 33:50
  kind
• 33:50
  of
• 33:50
  crack
• 33:51
  draft
• 33:51
  a
• 33:51
  script.
• 33:51
  And
• 33:51
  I
• 33:51
  say,
• 33:52
  look,
• 33:52
  give
• 33:53
  it
• 33:53
  to
• 33:53
  me
• 33:53
  at
• 33:53
  an
• 33:53
  8th
• 33:54
  grade
• 33:54
  level,
• 33:54
  right?
• 33:55
  And
• 33:56
  that
• 33:56
  is
• 33:56
  so
• 33:56
  that
• 33:57
  no
• 33:57
  matter
• 33:57
  who
• 33:58
  hears
• 33:58
  it,
• 33:58
  can
• 33:59
  relate
• 33:59
  to
• 33:59
  it.
• 33:59
  I
• 34:00
  go
• 34:00
  through
• 34:00
  it
• 34:00
  based
• 34:00
  on
• 34:01
  how
• 34:01
  it
• 34:01
  could
• 34:01
  affect
• 34:01
  your
• 34:01
  everyday
• 34:02
  life,
• 34:02
  how
• 34:02
  it
• 34:02
  could
• 34:02
  affect
• 34:03
  your
• 34:03
  career,
• 34:03
  and
• 34:04
  how
• 34:04
  it
• 34:04
  could
• 34:04
  affect
• 34:05
  your
• 34:05
  business
• 34:05
  if
• 34:06
  you
• 34:06
  start
• 34:06
  one.
• 34:06
  Because
• 34:06
  I
• 34:07
  think
• 34:07
  those
• 34:07
  are
• 34:07
  the
• 34:07
  three
• 34:08
  levels.
• 34:08
  Everyone's
• 34:09
  not
• 34:09
  an
• 34:09
  entrepreneur,
• 34:10
  everyone's
• 34:11
  not
• 34:11
  doing
• 34:11
  it
• 34:11
  technically,
• 34:12
  but
• 34:12
  everyone
• 34:13
  can
• 34:13
  leverage
• 34:13
  it
• 34:13
  to
• 34:14
  improve
• 34:14
  their
• 34:14
  daily
• 34:14
  life,
• 34:15
  whether
• 34:15
  it's
• 34:15
  a
• 34:16
  better
• 34:16
  structured
• 34:16
  itinerary
• 34:17
  for
• 34:17
  their
• 34:18
  taking
• 34:18
  their
• 34:18
  kids
• 34:18
  to
• 34:19
  soccer,
• 34:19
  to
• 34:20
  any
• 34:20
  of
• 34:20
  those
• 34:20
  things.
• 34:21
  So
• 34:21
  I
• 34:21
  try
• 34:21
  to
• 34:21
  do
• 34:21
  that,
• 34:22
  but
• 34:22
  also
• 34:22
  help
• 34:22
  them
• 34:23
  realize
• 34:24
  that
• 34:24
  the
• 34:24
  terms
• 34:24
  map
• 34:24
  to
• 34:25
  everyday
• 34:25
  life.
• 34:25
  I
• 34:25
  think
• 34:26
  we
• 34:26
  need
• 34:26
  to
• 34:26
  do
• 34:26
  more
• 34:26
  of
• 34:26
  that.
• 34:27
  You
• 34:27
  know,
• 34:27
  like
• 34:27
  for
• 34:27
  the
• 34:28
  film
• 34:28
  industry,
• 34:28
  it's
• 34:28
  notoriously
• 34:29
  similar
• 34:29
  to
• 34:30
  what
• 34:30
  you
• 34:30
  talked
• 34:30
  about.
• 34:30
  People
• 34:31
  are
• 34:31
  very
• 34:31
  anti
• 34:32
  AI
• 34:32
  and
• 34:32
  then
• 34:33
  there's
• 34:33
  people
• 34:33
  like
• 34:33
  Natasha
• 34:34
  Leon,
• 34:34
  who's
• 34:35
  starting
• 34:35
  an
• 34:36
  AI
• 34:36
  agency,
• 34:37
  right.
• 34:37
  And
• 34:38
  like
• 34:38
  in
• 34:38
  general,
• 34:39
  the
• 34:39
  field
• 34:40
  is
• 34:40
  really
• 34:41
  against
• 34:42
  something
• 34:42
  like
• 34:43
  that.
• 34:44
  Do
• 34:44
  you
• 34:44
  come
• 34:44
  from
• 34:44
  a
• 34:44
  place
• 34:45
  of
• 34:45
  you
• 34:45
  can't
• 34:46
  avoid
• 34:46
  it,
• 34:47
  you
• 34:47
  can
• 34:47
  get
• 34:47
  in
• 34:47
  now
• 34:48
  or
• 34:49
  it's
• 34:49
  going
• 34:49
  to
• 34:49
  come
• 34:50
  for
• 34:50
  you,
• 34:50
  or
• 34:51
  how
• 34:51
  do
• 34:51
  you
• 34:51
  talk
• 34:52
  to
• 34:52
  people
• 34:52
  that
• 34:52
  are
• 34:52
  against
• 34:53
  it?
• 34:53
  But
• 34:54
  I
• 34:54
  think
• 34:54
  in
• 34:54
  any
• 34:54
  industry
• 34:55
  you
• 34:55
  have
• 34:55
  to
• 34:55
  be
• 34:56
  adaptable.
• 34:56
  I
• 34:56
  think
• 34:57
  in
• 34:57
  entertainment
• 34:57
  in
• 34:58
  particular,
• 34:58
  it's
• 34:59
  an
• 34:59
  industry
• 34:59
  where
• 35:00
  the
• 35:00
  actors
• 35:00
  and
• 35:01
  actresses
• 35:01
  haven't
• 35:01
  necessarily
• 35:02
  had
• 35:02
  to
• 35:02
  adapt
• 35:02
  this
• 35:03
  fast,
• 35:03
  so
• 35:04
  they're
• 35:04
  being
• 35:04
  forced
• 35:04
  into
• 35:04
  it.
• 35:05
  And
• 35:05
  I
• 35:05
  think
• 35:05
  people
• 35:05
  who
• 35:06
  are
• 35:06
  going
• 35:06
  to
• 35:06
  extremes
• 35:07
  that
• 35:07
  make
• 35:07
  it
• 35:07
  seem
• 35:07
  like
• 35:07
  people
• 35:08
  are
• 35:08
  replaceable
• 35:09
  is
• 35:09
  making
• 35:10
  the
• 35:10
  fear
• 35:10
  behind
• 35:10
  it.
• 35:11
  But
• 35:11
  we
• 35:11
  all
• 35:11
  know
• 35:11
  that
• 35:12
  we're
• 35:12
  nowhere
• 35:13
  near
• 35:13
  a
• 35:13
  place
• 35:13
  where
• 35:14
  AI,
• 35:14
  where
• 35:14
  the
• 35:15
  human
• 35:15
  in
• 35:15
  the
• 35:15
  loop
• 35:15
  factor
• 35:16
  is
• 35:16
  less
• 35:16
  important.
• 35:17
  Right?
• 35:17
  Like
• 35:17
  at
• 35:18
  the
• 35:18
  end
• 35:18
  of
• 35:18
  the
• 35:18
  day,
• 35:18
  someone
• 35:19
  has
• 35:19
  to
• 35:20
  have
• 35:20
  the
• 35:20
  experience,
• 35:21
  have
• 35:21
  the
• 35:21
  use
• 35:21
  cases,
• 35:22
  have
• 35:22
  the
• 35:22
  inflection
• 35:23
  to
• 35:23
  help
• 35:23
  that
• 35:24
  be
• 35:24
  better.
• 35:25
  And
• 35:25
  I
• 35:25
  think
• 35:25
  it
• 35:25
  needs
• 35:25
  to
• 35:25
  be
• 35:25
  a
• 35:26
  partnership.
• 35:26
  And
• 35:27
  I
• 35:27
  understand
• 35:27
  why
• 35:27
  people
• 35:28
  are
• 35:28
  afraid.
• 35:29
  But
• 35:29
  again,
• 35:30
  a
• 35:30
  deer
• 35:30
  in
• 35:31
  headlights
• 35:31
  eventually
• 35:31
  gets
• 35:32
  hit,
• 35:32
  right?
• 35:32
  So
• 35:32
  you
• 35:33
  have
• 35:33
  to
• 35:33
  move
• 35:34
  with
• 35:34
  what's
• 35:34
  going
• 35:34
  on
• 35:35
  and
• 35:35
  you
• 35:35
  have
• 35:35
  to
• 35:35
  say,
• 35:36
  how
• 35:36
  do
• 35:36
  I
• 35:36
  offer
• 35:36
  my
• 35:36
  services
• 35:37
  differently?
• 35:37
  How
• 35:38
  do
• 35:38
  I
• 35:38
  change
• 35:38
  the
• 35:38
  parameters
• 35:39
  of
• 35:39
  what
• 35:39
  we're
• 35:39
  doing
• 35:40
  to
• 35:40
  be
• 35:40
  successful?
• 35:41
  So
• 35:41
  I
• 35:42
  think
• 35:42
  the
• 35:42
  content
• 35:43
  one
• 35:43
  is
• 35:43
  a
• 35:43
  weird
• 35:44
  one
• 35:44
  because
• 35:45
  it
• 35:45
  is
• 35:45
  so
• 35:46
  fast.
• 35:46
  And
• 35:46
  I
• 35:46
  mean,
• 35:46
  I
• 35:47
  don't
• 35:47
  know
• 35:47
  if
• 35:47
  you've
• 35:47
  seen
• 35:47
  even
• 35:48
  some
• 35:48
  of
• 35:48
  the
• 35:48
  latest
• 35:48
  models.
• 35:49
  It's
• 35:50
  pretty
• 35:50
  game
• 35:50
  changing
• 35:51
  in
• 35:51
  terms
• 35:51
  of
• 35:52
  the
• 35:52
  level
• 35:52
  of
• 35:53
  realism.
• 35:53
  So
• 35:54
  I
• 35:54
  understand
• 35:54
  why
• 35:54
  they're
• 35:55
  concerned.
• 35:56
  But
• 35:56
  you
• 35:56
  see,
• 35:56
  like,
• 35:56
  Ben
• 35:57
  Affleck
• 35:57
  just
• 35:57
  sold
• 35:58
  his
• 35:58
  AI
• 35:58
  company
• 35:58
  to
• 35:59
  Netflix.
• 35:59
  So,
• 35:59
  like,
• 36:00
  again,
• 36:01
  in
• 36:01
  every
• 36:01
  industry,
• 36:02
  there's
• 36:02
  collateral
• 36:03
  damage.
• 36:03
  You
• 36:04
  have
• 36:04
  to
• 36:04
  decide
• 36:04
  whether
• 36:04
  you're
• 36:05
  going
• 36:05
  to
• 36:05
  allow
• 36:05
  yourself
• 36:05
  to
• 36:06
  be
• 36:06
  the
• 36:06
  collateral
• 36:06
  damage.
• 36:07
  If
• 36:07
  you
• 36:07
  sit
• 36:08
  back
• 36:08
  and
• 36:08
  say,
• 36:08
  I
• 36:08
  don't
• 36:09
  know
• 36:09
  why
• 36:09
  this
• 36:09
  is
• 36:09
  happening,
• 36:10
  you're
• 36:11
  going
• 36:11
  to
• 36:11
  be
• 36:11
  collateral
• 36:11
  damage.
• 36:12
  But
• 36:12
  in
• 36:12
  every
• 36:12
  one
• 36:13
  of
• 36:13
  those,
• 36:13
  there's
• 36:13
  new
• 36:13
  innovators.
• 36:14
  So
• 36:14
  there's
• 36:14
  two
• 36:15
  sides
• 36:15
  of
• 36:15
  the
• 36:15
  equation,
• 36:15
  right.
• 36:16
  Because
• 36:16
  of
• 36:17
  the
• 36:17
  technologies,
• 36:17
  the
• 36:17
  actors
• 36:18
  inherently
• 36:18
  don't
• 36:18
  need
• 36:18
  the
• 36:19
  studios
• 36:19
  either.
• 36:19
  Right.
• 36:20
  Like,
• 36:20
  if
• 36:20
  a
• 36:20
  bunch
• 36:20
  of
• 36:21
  actors
• 36:21
  got
• 36:21
  together
• 36:21
  who
• 36:22
  had
• 36:22
  enough
• 36:22
  drawing
• 36:22
  power
• 36:23
  and
• 36:23
  said,
• 36:23
  I'm
• 36:24
  going
• 36:24
  to
• 36:24
  create
• 36:24
  all
• 36:24
  AI
• 36:25
  driven
• 36:25
  sets,
• 36:25
  we're
• 36:26
  going
• 36:26
  to
• 36:26
  do
• 36:26
  this
• 36:26
  in
• 36:26
  our
• 36:26
  apartment
• 36:27
  and
• 36:27
  we're
• 36:27
  going
• 36:27
  to
• 36:27
  leverage
• 36:27
  our
• 36:28
  skills
• 36:28
  and
• 36:28
  we're
• 36:28
  going
• 36:28
  to
• 36:28
  promote
• 36:29
  it.
• 36:29
  If
• 36:29
  you
• 36:29
  look
• 36:29
  at
• 36:30
  it
• 36:30
  holistically,
• 36:31
  there's
• 36:31
  opportunities
• 36:32
  on
• 36:32
  both
• 36:32
  sides,
• 36:32
  right?
• 36:33
  So
• 36:33
  I
• 36:33
  think
• 36:33
  that's
• 36:33
  how
• 36:33
  they
• 36:34
  would
• 36:34
  articulate
• 36:34
  it.
• 36:35
  That's
• 36:35
  really
• 36:35
  neat.
• 36:35
  The
• 36:36
  one
• 36:36
  thing
• 36:36
  we
• 36:36
  talk
• 36:36
  about
• 36:36
  a
• 36:37
  lot
• 36:37
  on
• 36:37
  here
• 36:37
  is
• 36:37
  when
• 36:38
  you
• 36:38
  look
• 36:38
  at
• 36:38
  the
• 36:38
  leadership
• 36:39
  of
• 36:40
  the
• 36:40
  big
• 36:40
  AI
• 36:41
  companies
• 36:41
  and
• 36:42
  how
• 36:43
  the
• 36:43
  one
• 36:43
  thing
• 36:44
  people
• 36:44
  talk
• 36:44
  about,
• 36:45
  the
• 36:45
  leadership
• 36:46
  that
• 36:46
  currently
• 36:46
  exists
• 36:47
  in
• 36:48
  AI
• 36:48
  that
• 36:48
  we
• 36:49
  see
• 36:49
  is
• 36:51
  similar
• 36:51
  to
• 36:51
  the
• 36:52
  leadership
• 36:52
  we've
• 36:52
  seen
• 36:53
  in
• 36:53
  the
• 36:53
  tech
• 36:53
  industry
• 36:53
  for
• 36:54
  a
• 36:54
  long
• 36:54
  time,
• 36:55
  do
• 36:55
  you
• 36:55
  think
• 36:55
  there's
• 36:55
  anything
• 36:56
  that
• 36:56
  can
• 36:56
  be
• 36:56
  done
• 36:57
  about
• 36:57
  that?
• 36:57
  Do
• 36:58
  you
• 36:58
  think
• 36:58
  that's
• 36:58
  going
• 36:58
  to
• 36:58
  change
• 36:59
  over
• 36:59
  the
• 36:59
  next
• 36:59
  few
• 37:00
  years,
• 37:00
  or
• 37:00
  do
• 37:00
  you
• 37:00
  think
• 37:01
  that's
• 37:01
  definitely
• 37:02
  a
• 37:02
  stress?
• 37:03
  The
• 37:03
  ecosystem,
• 37:04
  however,
• 37:05
  is
• 37:05
  still
• 37:05
  at
• 37:06
  a
• 37:06
  point
• 37:06
  that
• 37:06
  it's
• 37:06
  open
• 37:07
  and
• 37:07
  welcoming.
• 37:08
  So
• 37:08
  I
• 37:08
  think
• 37:08
  you
• 37:09
  hit
• 37:09
  on
• 37:09
  a
• 37:09
  couple
• 37:09
  points
• 37:09
  there.
• 37:10
  I
• 37:10
  think
• 37:10
  the
• 37:10
  first
• 37:10
  one
• 37:10
  is
• 37:11
  the
• 37:11
  whole
• 37:12
  world
• 37:12
  switching
• 37:13
  from
• 37:13
  ChatGPT
• 37:14
  to
• 37:14
  Claude
• 37:15
  based
• 37:16
  on
• 37:17
  an
• 37:17
  action
• 37:17
  that
• 37:18
  was
• 37:18
  not
• 37:18
  technically
• 37:18
  oriented,
• 37:19
  but
• 37:19
  that
• 37:20
  was
• 37:20
  policy
• 37:20
  and
• 37:20
  belief
• 37:21
  oriented.
• 37:22
  But
• 37:22
  at
• 37:22
  the
• 37:22
  same
• 37:23
  time,
• 37:24
  no
• 37:24
  one's
• 37:25
  looking
• 37:25
  at
• 37:25
  whether
• 37:26
  Claude
• 37:26
  was
• 37:26
  the
• 37:27
  right
• 37:27
  tool.
• 37:28
  Right.
• 37:28
  It's
• 37:28
  an
• 37:28
  emotionally
• 37:29
  based
• 37:29
  decision.
• 37:30
  Right.
• 37:30
  So
• 37:31
  my
• 37:31
  challenge
• 37:32
  is,
• 37:32
  I
• 37:33
  think
• 37:33
  there's
• 37:33
  another
• 37:33
  way
• 37:33
  to
• 37:34
  do
• 37:34
  it.
• 37:34
  Right?
• 37:34
  Like,
• 37:34
  if
• 37:34
  you
• 37:35
  move
• 37:35
  off
• 37:35
  one
• 37:35
  for
• 37:35
  those
• 37:36
  reasons,
• 37:36
  let's
• 37:37
  take
• 37:37
  a
• 37:37
  step
• 37:37
  back
• 37:37
  and
• 37:37
  say,
• 37:38
  well,
• 37:38
  what's
• 37:38
  the
• 37:38
  best
• 37:38
  one
• 37:39
  that
• 37:39
  we
• 37:39
  do?
• 37:39
  Because
• 37:40
  in
• 37:40
  six
• 37:40
  months,
• 37:40
  if
• 37:41
  Claude
• 37:41
  does
• 37:41
  something.
• 37:42
  Because
• 37:42
  they're
• 37:42
  people.
• 37:43
  So
• 37:43
  if
• 37:43
  Claude
• 37:44
  does
• 37:44
  something
• 37:44
  that
• 37:44
  we
• 37:44
  don't
• 37:44
  like,
• 37:45
  are
• 37:45
  we
• 37:45
  now
• 37:45
  going
• 37:45
  to
• 37:45
  mass
• 37:46
  exodus
• 37:46
  to
• 37:47
  Gemini
• 37:47
  or
• 37:48
  are
• 37:48
  we
• 37:48
  going
• 37:48
  to
• 37:48
  mass
• 37:48
  exodus
• 37:49
  to
• 37:49
  someplace
• 37:49
  else?
• 37:50
  It
• 37:50
  goes
• 37:50
  back
• 37:51
  to
• 37:51
  my
• 37:51
  foundational
• 37:51
  principles
• 37:52
  because
• 37:53
  they're
• 37:53
  not
• 37:53
  the
• 37:53
  same.
• 37:53
  Right.
• 37:54
  Like,
• 37:54
  I
• 37:54
  think
• 37:54
  if
• 37:55
  you
• 37:55
  look
• 37:55
  online,
• 37:55
  people
• 37:56
  are
• 37:56
  already
• 37:56
  seeing
• 37:56
  that,
• 37:57
  oh,
• 37:57
  the
• 37:57
  tokens
• 37:58
  get
• 37:58
  used
• 37:58
  a
• 37:58
  lot
• 37:59
  faster
• 37:59
  on
• 37:59
  Claude,
• 38:00
  and
• 38:00
  it's
• 38:00
  a
• 38:00
  lot
• 38:00
  more
• 38:00
  like
• 38:01
  there's
• 38:01
  all
• 38:01
  of
• 38:01
  these
• 38:01
  things
• 38:01
  that
• 38:02
  are
• 38:02
  happening
• 38:03
  that
• 38:03
  and
• 38:03
  let's
• 38:04
  be
• 38:04
  clear
• 38:04
  to
• 38:05
  your
• 38:05
  point
• 38:05
  about
• 38:05
  leadership.
• 38:06
  It's
• 38:07
  a
• 38:08
  master
• 38:09
  class
• 38:09
  in
• 38:09
  product
• 38:10
  marketing
• 38:10
  to
• 38:11
  go
• 38:11
  from
• 38:12
  this
• 38:12
  niche
• 38:13
  high
• 38:13
  end
• 38:14
  AI
• 38:14
  to
• 38:14
  being
• 38:14
  the
• 38:15
  number
• 38:15
  one
• 38:15
  AI
• 38:16
  tool
• 38:16
  in
• 38:16
  the
• 38:17
  world
• 38:17
  in
• 38:17
  two
• 38:17
  weeks.
• 38:18
  Right.
• 38:19
  So
• 38:20
  I
• 38:20
  think
• 38:20
  we
• 38:20
  should
• 38:20
  all
• 38:21
  be
• 38:21
  principled
• 38:21
  and
• 38:21
  follow
• 38:22
  our
• 38:22
  beliefs.
• 38:22
  But
• 38:23
  at
• 38:23
  the
• 38:23
  same
• 38:23
  time
• 38:24
  does
• 38:24
  that
• 38:25
  mean
• 38:25
  that
• 38:25
  we
• 38:25
  should
• 38:26
  maybe
• 38:26
  leave
• 38:27
  all
• 38:27
  of
• 38:27
  them
• 38:27
  or
• 38:27
  maybe
• 38:28
  create
• 38:28
  our
• 38:28
  use
• 38:29
  one
• 38:29
  of
• 38:29
  the
• 38:29
  open
• 38:29
  source
• 38:29
  models
• 38:30
  and
• 38:30
  create
• 38:30
  something
• 38:30
  else?
• 38:31
  I
• 38:31
  think
• 38:31
  the
• 38:31
  opportunity
• 38:32
  is,
• 38:32
  is
• 38:32
  that
• 38:33
  for
• 38:33
  us
• 38:33
  to
• 38:33
  really
• 38:33
  understand
• 38:34
  what
• 38:34
  AI
• 38:34
  needs
• 38:35
  to
• 38:35
  be.
• 38:36
  So
• 38:36
  I
• 38:36
  think
• 38:36
  that's
• 38:36
  one,
• 38:37
  I
• 38:37
  think
• 38:37
  the
• 38:37
  other
• 38:37
  one
• 38:38
  is
• 38:38
  just
• 38:39
  in
• 38:39
  terms
• 38:39
  of
• 38:40
  how
• 38:40
  the
• 38:40
  innovation
• 38:41
  is
• 38:41
  going
• 38:41
  to
• 38:42
  go.
• 38:42
  I
• 38:43
  think
• 38:43
  we
• 38:43
  want
• 38:43
  to
• 38:43
  encourage
• 38:44
  as
• 38:44
  many
• 38:44
  people
• 38:45
  as
• 38:45
  possible
• 38:46
  to
• 38:46
  be
• 38:46
  leveraging
• 38:47
  all
• 38:47
  the
• 38:47
  models
• 38:48
  for
• 38:48
  this
• 38:48
  reason.
• 38:49
  Right.
• 38:49
  We
• 38:49
  all
• 38:50
  know
• 38:50
  the
• 38:50
  technology
• 38:50
  term
• 38:51
  garbage
• 38:51
  in
• 38:51
  and
• 38:51
  garbage
• 38:52
  out,
• 38:52
  right.
• 38:53
  So
• 38:53
  the
• 38:53
  reason
• 38:54
  why
• 38:54
  I'm
• 38:54
  passionate
• 38:54
  about
• 38:55
  every
• 38:55
  demographic
• 38:55
  group
• 38:56
  using
• 38:56
  AI
• 38:57
  tools
• 38:57
  is
• 38:58
  because
• 38:58
  their
• 38:58
  different
• 38:59
  perspectives
• 38:59
  are
• 38:59
  going
• 38:59
  to
• 38:59
  feed
• 39:00
  the
• 39:00
  model.
• 39:00
  So
• 39:01
  you
• 39:01
  know,
• 39:01
  on
• 39:01
  one
• 39:02
  hand,
• 39:03
  none
• 39:03
  of
• 39:03
  these
• 39:03
  tools
• 39:03
  are
• 39:04
  going
• 39:04
  away.
• 39:05
  Is
• 39:05
  there
• 39:05
  a
• 39:05
  counter
• 39:06
  kind
• 39:06
  of
• 39:06
  movement
• 39:07
  where
• 39:07
  we
• 39:07
  feed
• 39:08
  these
• 39:08
  tools
• 39:08
  the
• 39:08
  ideas
• 39:09
  and
• 39:09
  concepts
• 39:09
  that
• 39:10
  we
• 39:10
  believe
• 39:10
  that
• 39:10
  make
• 39:10
  them
• 39:11
  more
• 39:11
  holistic?
• 39:11
  I
• 39:11
  don't
• 39:12
  know.
• 39:12
  Right.
• 39:12
  Like
• 39:13
  to
• 39:13
  your
• 39:13
  point
• 39:13
  about
• 39:14
  is,
• 39:14
  I
• 39:15
  don't
• 39:15
  know
• 39:15
  if
• 39:15
  just
• 39:15
  mass
• 39:16
  exodus
• 39:17
  is
• 39:17
  the
• 39:17
  right
• 39:17
  approach.
• 39:18
  We'll
• 39:18
  see.
• 39:19
  I
• 39:19
  think
• 39:19
  the
• 39:19
  power
• 39:19
  we
• 39:20
  have
• 39:20
  is
• 39:21
  that
• 39:21
  the
• 39:21
  AI
• 39:21
  models
• 39:22
  have
• 39:22
  already
• 39:22
  consumed
• 39:23
  all
• 39:23
  of
• 39:24
  the
• 39:24
  printed
• 39:25
  and
• 39:25
  digital
• 39:26
  documented
• 39:26
  information.
• 39:27
  The
• 39:27
  only
• 39:27
  information
• 39:28
  they
• 39:28
  have
• 39:28
  left
• 39:29
  is
• 39:29
  the
• 39:29
  human
• 39:29
  information.
• 39:30
  So
• 39:31
  to
• 39:31
  me,
• 39:31
  if
• 39:31
  you
• 39:31
  think
• 39:31
  about
• 39:31
  it
• 39:32
  from
• 39:32
  that
• 39:32
  perspective,
• 39:32
  we
• 39:33
  have
• 39:33
  real
• 39:33
  power
• 39:33
  in
• 39:34
  how
• 39:34
  we
• 39:34
  shape
• 39:35
  how
• 39:35
  those
• 39:35
  models
• 39:35
  believe,
• 39:36
  how
• 39:36
  they
• 39:36
  rationalize
• 39:37
  what
• 39:37
  use
• 39:37
  cases
• 39:38
  we
• 39:38
  give
• 39:38
  them.
• 39:39
  But
• 39:39
  if
• 39:39
  we
• 39:39
  only
• 39:39
  have
• 39:39
  a
• 39:40
  small
• 39:40
  segment
• 39:40
  of
• 39:40
  the
• 39:40
  population
• 39:41
  feeding
• 39:41
  them
• 39:41
  those
• 39:42
  ideas,
• 39:42
  then
• 39:42
  we
• 39:42
  can't
• 39:43
  be
• 39:43
  mad
• 39:43
  that
• 39:43
  they're
• 39:44
  biased.
• 39:45
  Right.
• 39:45
  So
• 39:45
  I
• 39:45
  would
• 39:46
  argue
• 39:46
  that,
• 39:47
  you
• 39:47
  know,
• 39:47
  if
• 39:47
  we
• 39:47
  use
• 39:48
  the
• 39:48
  term
• 39:48
  human
• 39:48
  in
• 39:48
  the
• 39:49
  loop,
• 39:49
  who's
• 39:50
  going
• 39:50
  to
• 39:50
  create
• 39:50
  a
• 39:50
  company
• 39:50
  that
• 39:51
  drives
• 39:51
  the
• 39:51
  human
• 39:51
  in
• 39:52
  the
• 39:52
  loop,
• 39:52
  that
• 39:52
  drives
• 39:53
  AI
• 39:53
  to
• 39:54
  be
• 39:54
  as
• 39:54
  holistic
• 39:55
  as
• 39:55
  it
• 39:55
  can?
• 39:56
  It
• 39:56
  won't
• 39:56
  be
• 39:56
  perfect
• 39:57
  because
• 39:57
  we're
• 39:58
  all
• 39:58
  imperfect,
• 39:58
  but
• 39:59
  at
• 39:59
  least
• 39:59
  it
• 40:00
  can
• 40:00
  be
• 40:00
  more
• 40:00
  holistic.
• 40:01
  All
• 40:01
  the
• 40:01
  initial
• 40:02
  models
• 40:02
  have
• 40:02
  just
• 40:03
  been
• 40:03
  driven
• 40:03
  by
• 40:03
  the
• 40:03
  diversity
• 40:04
  makeup
• 40:04
  set
• 40:04
  of
• 40:05
  the
• 40:05
  researchers
• 40:05
  that
• 40:05
  have
• 40:05
  fed
• 40:05
  the
• 40:06
  model
• 40:06
  up
• 40:06
  into
• 40:06
  to
• 40:06
  this
• 40:06
  point.
• 40:07
  I
• 40:07
  think
• 40:07
  that's
• 40:08
  the
• 40:08
  opportunity
• 40:08
  we
• 40:09
  have
• 40:09
  to
• 40:09
  change
• 40:09
  it.
• 40:10
  And
• 40:10
  I
• 40:11
  do
• 40:11
  think
• 40:11
  it
• 40:11
  comes
• 40:11
  by
• 40:11
  usage.
• 40:12
  I
• 40:12
  think
• 40:12
  it's
• 40:13
  people.
• 40:13
  Somebody
• 40:14
  would
• 40:14
  say
• 40:14
  it's
• 40:14
  counterintuitive.
• 40:15
  If
• 40:15
  you
• 40:15
  understand
• 40:15
  how
• 40:16
  AI
• 40:16
  learns,
• 40:17
  usage
• 40:17
  is
• 40:18
  your
• 40:18
  best
• 40:18
  weapon.
• 40:18
  Right.
• 40:19
  Lack
• 40:19
  of
• 40:19
  usage
• 40:20
  will
• 40:20
  send
• 40:20
  it
• 40:21
  down
• 40:21
  a
• 40:21
  path
• 40:21
  that,
• 40:21
  you
• 40:22
  know,
• 40:22
  it'll
• 40:22
  only
• 40:23
  have
• 40:23
  narrow
• 40:23
  face
• 40:24
  focus
• 40:24
  of
• 40:24
  what
• 40:24
  it
• 40:25
  thinks.
• 40:25
  Let's
• 40:26
  do
• 40:26
  mass
• 40:26
  usage.
• 40:27
  Let's
• 40:27
  all
• 40:27
  go
• 40:27
  into
• 40:28
  a
• 40:28
  tool
• 40:28
  and
• 40:28
  feed
• 40:29
  it
• 40:29
  certain
• 40:29
  information
• 40:30
  to
• 40:30
  guide
• 40:31
  its
• 40:31
  discovery
• 40:31
  in
• 40:31
  a
• 40:32
  way
• 40:32
  that
• 40:32
  we
• 40:32
  believe
• 40:32
  is
• 40:33
  fair
• 40:33
  and
• 40:33
  appropriate.
• 40:33
  To
• 40:34
  me,
• 40:34
  that's
• 40:34
  real
• 40:34
  power.
• 40:35
  But
• 40:35
  I
• 40:35
  don't
• 40:35
  think
• 40:35
  we're
• 40:35
  there
• 40:36
  yet.
• 40:36
  So,
• 40:36
  you
• 40:37
  know,
• 40:37
  the
• 40:37
  leaders
• 40:37
  are
• 40:37
  going
• 40:37
  to
• 40:38
  be
• 40:38
  the
• 40:38
  leaders.
• 40:38
  They're
• 40:39
  imperfect
• 40:39
  people.
• 40:39
  The
• 40:40
  beauty
• 40:40
  is
• 40:40
  that
• 40:40
  they
• 40:41
  have
• 40:41
  platforms
• 40:41
  to
• 40:41
  have
• 40:42
  billions
• 40:42
  of
• 40:42
  people
• 40:42
  and
• 40:42
  those
• 40:43
  billions
• 40:43
  of
• 40:43
  people
• 40:43
  have
• 40:43
  a
• 40:44
  voice
• 40:44
  if
• 40:44
  they
• 40:44
  direct
• 40:45
  it
• 40:45
  in
• 40:45
  the
• 40:45
  right
• 40:45
  place.
• 40:46
  So
• 40:46
  you
• 40:46
  made
• 40:46
  a
• 40:46
  point
• 40:47
  like,
• 40:47
  oh,
• 40:47
  everyone
• 40:47
  switched
• 40:48
  to
• 40:48
  Claude
• 40:48
  without
• 40:48
  really
• 40:48
  thinking
• 40:49
  about
• 40:49
  like
• 40:49
  it
• 40:49
  was
• 40:49
  Claude
• 40:50
  the
• 40:50
  right
• 40:50
  tool.
• 40:50
  I
• 40:51
  don't
• 40:51
  disagree
• 40:51
  with
• 40:51
  that,
• 40:52
  but
• 40:52
  I
• 40:52
  think
• 40:52
  that
• 40:53
  most
• 40:53
  non
• 40:54
  technical
• 40:54
  people,
• 40:55
  frankly
• 40:55
  even
• 40:55
  a
• 40:56
  lot
• 40:56
  of
• 40:56
  technical
• 40:56
  people,
• 40:57
  there's
• 40:57
  not
• 40:58
  such
• 40:58
  a
• 40:58
  massive
• 40:59
  difference
• 41:00
  in
• 41:01
  the
• 41:01
  output
• 41:02
  between
• 41:03
  one
• 41:04
  model
• 41:05
  to
• 41:05
  another
• 41:05
  on
• 41:06
  any
• 41:06
  given
• 41:06
  day
• 41:07
  for
• 41:07
  it
• 41:07
  to
• 41:09
  matter
• 41:09
  too
• 41:10
  much.
• 41:10
  And
• 41:10
  on
• 41:11
  top
• 41:11
  of
• 41:11
  that,
• 41:12
  the
• 41:12
  models
• 41:12
  are
• 41:12
  constantly
• 41:13
  changing.
• 41:13
  So
• 41:14
  it
• 41:14
  kind
• 41:14
  of
• 41:14
  is
• 41:14
  looking
• 41:15
  like
• 41:15
  this,
• 41:15
  right?
• 41:16
  Like
• 41:16
  what
• 41:16
  works
• 41:16
  one
• 41:17
  week
• 41:17
  all
• 41:17
  of
• 41:17
  a
• 41:17
  sudden
• 41:18
  might
• 41:18
  not
• 41:18
  be
• 41:19
  good.
• 41:19
  And
• 41:19
  then
• 41:19
  you
• 41:19
  switch
• 41:19
  to
• 41:19
  another
• 41:20
  one
• 41:20
  and
• 41:20
  like,
• 41:21
  it's
• 41:21
  just
• 41:21
  like
• 41:22
  if
• 41:22
  I
• 41:22
  go
• 41:22
  to
• 41:23
  Uber
• 41:23
  and
• 41:23
  the
• 41:23
  prices
• 41:24
  are
• 41:24
  too
• 41:24
  high
• 41:24
  and
• 41:24
  I
• 41:24
  check
• 41:25
  Lyft
• 41:25
  and
• 41:25
  the
• 41:25
  prices
• 41:26
  are
• 41:26
  lower,
• 41:26
  I'm
• 41:26
  going
• 41:26
  to
• 41:26
  use
• 41:26
  Lyft
• 41:27
  and
• 41:27
  I
• 41:27
  can
• 41:27
  use
• 41:27
  them
• 41:28
  interchangeably.
• 41:28
  And
• 41:28
  it
• 41:29
  doesn't
• 41:29
  mean
• 41:29
  that
• 41:29
  I'm
• 41:29
  not
• 41:30
  no
• 41:30
  longer
• 41:30
  a
• 41:30
  customer
• 41:31
  of
• 41:31
  one
• 41:31
  or
• 41:31
  the
• 41:31
  other.
• 41:32
  I
• 41:32
  like
• 41:32
  what
• 41:32
  you
• 41:33
  just
• 41:33
  said
• 41:33
  because
• 41:33
  it
• 41:33
  kind
• 41:34
  of
• 41:34
  is
• 41:34
  like,
• 41:35
  it
• 41:35
  feels
• 41:35
  like
• 41:35
  there's
• 41:36
  less
• 41:36
  restriction
• 41:37
  for
• 41:38
  consumers
• 41:38
  because
• 41:38
  it's
• 41:39
  like,
• 41:39
  okay,
• 41:39
  a
• 41:40
  question
• 41:40
  that
• 41:40
  I
• 41:40
  asked
• 41:40
  Gemini
• 41:41
  and
• 41:41
  a
• 41:41
  question
• 41:41
  that
• 41:41
  I
• 41:42
  asked
• 41:42
  Claude
• 41:42
  and
• 41:42
  the
• 41:42
  same
• 41:43
  question
• 41:43
  that
• 41:43
  I
• 41:43
  asked
• 41:43
  ChatGPT,
• 41:44
  Sure,
• 41:44
  I'm
• 41:44
  going
• 41:45
  to
• 41:45
  get
• 41:45
  slightly
• 41:45
  different
• 41:45
  answers
• 41:46
  between
• 41:46
  the
• 41:46
  three.
• 41:47
  Is
• 41:47
  it
• 41:47
  going
• 41:47
  to
• 41:47
  be
• 41:48
  so
• 41:48
  vastly
• 41:48
  different
• 41:49
  that
• 41:49
  I'm
• 41:49
  like,
• 41:49
  oh,
• 41:49
  I
• 41:49
  cannot
• 41:50
  use
• 41:50
  that
• 41:51
  one.
• 41:51
  Probably
• 41:51
  not.
• 41:52
  So
• 41:52
  like,
• 41:53
  if
• 41:53
  I
• 41:54
  want
• 41:54
  to
• 41:54
  align
• 41:55
  my
• 41:55
  usage
• 41:56
  with
• 41:57
  the
• 41:57
  behavior
• 41:58
  of
• 41:59
  the
• 41:59
  leaders
• 42:00
  that
• 42:00
  I
• 42:00
  agree
• 42:00
  with
• 42:00
  the
• 42:01
  most,
• 42:01
  or
• 42:01
  whatever
• 42:03
  I
• 42:03
  can,
• 42:04
  it
• 42:04
  doesn't
• 42:04
  affect
• 42:05
  me
• 42:05
  all
• 42:05
  that
• 42:05
  much.
• 42:06
  I
• 42:06
  don't
• 42:06
  know.
• 42:06
  What
• 42:06
  do
• 42:06
  you
• 42:06
  guys
• 42:06
  think
• 42:07
  about
• 42:07
  that?
• 42:07
  I
• 42:07
  have
• 42:08
  observed
• 42:08
  there
• 42:08
  is
• 42:09
  like
• 42:09
  a
• 42:09
  bit
• 42:09
  of
• 42:09
  a
• 42:09
  difference
• 42:10
  between
• 42:10
  the
• 42:10
  three,
• 42:11
  but
• 42:11
  none
• 42:11
  of
• 42:11
  it's
• 42:11
  unusable
• 42:12
  to
• 42:12
  your
• 42:13
  point
• 42:13
  of
• 42:13
  like,
• 42:13
  I've
• 42:14
  been
• 42:14
  able
• 42:14
  to
• 42:14
  depend
• 42:14
  on
• 42:15
  some
• 42:15
  models
• 42:15
  for
• 42:15
  some
• 42:16
  things
• 42:16
  better,
• 42:16
  but
• 42:17
  none
• 42:17
  of
• 42:17
  it
• 42:17
  is
• 42:17
  like,
• 42:18
  I've
• 42:18
  not
• 42:19
  observed
• 42:19
  any
• 42:19
  one
• 42:20
  of
• 42:20
  them
• 42:20
  to
• 42:20
  be
• 42:20
  consistently
• 42:21
  incorrect
• 42:22
  or
• 42:23
  not
• 42:23
  useful.
• 42:24
  I
• 42:24
  will
• 42:24
  say
• 42:24
  yes
• 42:25
  with
• 42:25
  a
• 42:25
  caveat.
• 42:25
  And
• 42:26
  the
• 42:26
  caveat
• 42:26
  will
• 42:26
  be
• 42:26
  what
• 42:27
  we
• 42:27
  talked
• 42:27
  about
• 42:27
  before,
• 42:28
  about
• 42:28
  having
• 42:29
  the
• 42:29
  good
• 42:29
  foundational
• 42:30
  skills.
• 42:30
  Right?
• 42:30
  Like
• 42:31
  a
• 42:31
  garbage
• 42:31
  prompt
• 42:32
  is
• 42:32
  going
• 42:32
  to
• 42:32
  give
• 42:32
  you
• 42:33
  garbage
• 42:33
  results
• 42:33
  across
• 42:34
  all
• 42:34
  three.
• 42:34
  Right.
• 42:35
  And
• 42:35
  I
• 42:35
  think
• 42:36
  if
• 42:36
  we
• 42:36
  really
• 42:37
  had
• 42:37
  the
• 42:37
  data.
• 42:38
  There's
• 42:39
  more
• 42:39
  garbage
• 42:39
  prompts
• 42:40
  being
• 42:40
  fed
• 42:40
  than
• 42:40
  good
• 42:40
  prompts.
• 42:41
  Right?
• 42:41
  Because
• 42:42
  to
• 42:42
  our
• 42:42
  point,
• 42:43
  like
• 42:43
  most
• 42:43
  of
• 42:44
  America
• 42:44
  doesn't
• 42:44
  understand
• 42:45
  what
• 42:45
  a
• 42:45
  prompt
• 42:45
  really
• 42:45
  is
• 42:46
  and
• 42:46
  hasn't
• 42:46
  looked
• 42:46
  at
• 42:47
  the
• 42:47
  structure.
• 42:48
  But
• 42:48
  I
• 42:48
  also
• 42:49
  think
• 42:49
  the
• 42:49
  benefit
• 42:49
  perspective,
• 42:50
  as
• 42:50
  you
• 42:50
  mentioned
• 42:50
  before,
• 42:51
  is
• 42:52
  the
• 42:52
  way
• 42:52
  I
• 42:52
  look
• 42:52
  at
• 42:52
  it
• 42:52
  is
• 42:53
  if
• 42:53
  I'm
• 42:53
  somebody
• 42:53
  who
• 42:54
  wants
• 42:54
  to
• 42:54
  start
• 42:55
  a
• 42:55
  business,
• 42:56
  I
• 42:57
  can
• 42:57
  now
• 42:57
  have
• 42:57
  the
• 42:57
  top
• 42:58
  experts
• 42:58
  in
• 42:58
  that
• 42:59
  field
• 43:00
  with
• 43:00
  three
• 43:00
  different
• 43:00
  diverse
• 43:01
  perspectives
• 43:02
  guide
• 43:02
  me
• 43:03
  through
• 43:03
  that
• 43:03
  process
• 43:04
  day
• 43:04
  by
• 43:04
  day.
• 43:05
  Like,
• 43:05
  that's
• 43:05
  a
• 43:05
  powerful
• 43:06
  statement
• 43:06
  when
• 43:07
  you
• 43:07
  look
• 43:07
  at
• 43:08
  how
• 43:08
  many
• 43:08
  times
• 43:09
  you
• 43:09
  hear
• 43:09
  stories
• 43:09
  that
• 43:10
  people
• 43:10
  are
• 43:10
  like,
• 43:10
  well,
• 43:10
  I
• 43:10
  had
• 43:10
  to
• 43:11
  figure
• 43:11
  it
• 43:11
  out
• 43:11
  on
• 43:11
  my
• 43:11
  own
• 43:12
  and
• 43:12
  I
• 43:12
  didn't
• 43:12
  have
• 43:12
  any
• 43:13
  support
• 43:13
  and
• 43:13
  I
• 43:13
  didn't
• 43:13
  have
• 43:14
  a
• 43:14
  mentor
• 43:14
  system.
• 43:15
  I
• 43:15
  agree
• 43:15
  with
• 43:16
  you.
• 43:16
  And
• 43:16
  then
• 43:16
  the
• 43:16
  other
• 43:16
  point
• 43:17
  you
• 43:17
  said
• 43:17
  about
• 43:17
  the
• 43:17
  mass
• 43:17
  exodus
• 43:18
  was
• 43:18
  that
• 43:19
  inherently
• 43:20
  Claude
• 43:20
  will
• 43:20
  now
• 43:21
  be
• 43:21
  better
• 43:22
  because
• 43:22
  it's
• 43:22
  getting
• 43:22
  fed
• 43:23
  a
• 43:23
  mass
• 43:23
  amount
• 43:24
  of
• 43:24
  people
• 43:24
  that
• 43:24
  it
• 43:24
  wasn't
• 43:24
  getting
• 43:25
  that
• 43:25
  input
• 43:25
  from
• 43:26
  two
• 43:26
  weeks
• 43:26
  ago.
• 43:27
  Right.
• 43:27
  So
• 43:28
  there
• 43:28
  is
• 43:28
  a
• 43:28
  benefit
• 43:29
  to
• 43:29
  that
• 43:29
  shift,
• 43:30
  not
• 43:30
  only
• 43:30
  for
• 43:30
  the
• 43:30
  people
• 43:31
  who
• 43:31
  are
• 43:31
  following
• 43:32
  their
• 43:32
  beliefs,
• 43:33
  but
• 43:33
  the
• 43:33
  platform
• 43:33
  that
• 43:34
  receives
• 43:34
  it.
• 43:34
  Right?
• 43:35
  But
• 43:35
  we
• 43:36
  have
• 43:36
  short
• 43:36
  term
• 43:36
  memory,
• 43:37
  right?
• 43:37
  And
• 43:37
  the
• 43:37
  reason
• 43:38
  I
• 43:38
  say
• 43:38
  we
• 43:38
  have
• 43:38
  short
• 43:39
  term
• 43:39
  memory
• 43:39
  is
• 43:40
  we'll
• 43:40
  forget
• 43:40
  the
• 43:41
  power
• 43:41
  in
• 43:41
  that
• 43:41
  movement
• 43:42
  in
• 43:42
  like
• 43:43
  a
• 43:43
  month.
• 43:43
  But
• 43:43
  the
• 43:44
  reality
• 43:44
  is,
• 43:44
  if
• 43:45
  people
• 43:45
  are
• 43:45
  like,
• 43:45
  hey,
• 43:45
  how
• 43:46
  do
• 43:46
  we
• 43:46
  leverage
• 43:46
  the
• 43:47
  power
• 43:48
  in
• 43:48
  AI?
• 43:48
  And
• 43:48
  we
• 43:48
  saw
• 43:49
  that,
• 43:49
  hey,
• 43:50
  we
• 43:50
  were
• 43:50
  able
• 43:51
  to
• 43:51
  shift
• 43:51
  a
• 43:52
  large
• 43:52
  enough
• 43:52
  sale
• 43:52
  of
• 43:52
  people
• 43:53
  to
• 43:53
  impact
• 43:54
  one
• 43:54
  platform
• 43:55
  over
• 43:55
  the
• 43:55
  other.
• 43:56
  How
• 43:57
  do
• 43:57
  we
• 43:57
  do
• 43:57
  that
• 43:57
  in
• 43:58
  a
• 43:58
  more
• 43:58
  intentful
• 43:58
  way?
• 43:59
  How
• 43:59
  do
• 43:59
  we
• 43:59
  do
• 43:59
  that
• 43:59
  in
• 44:00
  a
• 44:00
  more
• 44:00
  instructive
• 44:00
  way
• 44:01
  with
• 44:01
  an
• 44:01
  end
• 44:01
  goal
• 44:01
  in
• 44:02
  mind?
• 44:02
  And
• 44:03
  may
• 44:03
  we
• 44:03
  do
• 44:03
  it
• 44:03
  the
• 44:03
  other
• 44:03
  way?
• 44:04
  Like
• 44:04
  I
• 44:04
  said,
• 44:05
  is
• 44:05
  there
• 44:05
  a
• 44:05
  world
• 44:06
  where
• 44:06
  in
• 44:06
  six
• 44:07
  months,
• 44:07
  that
• 44:08
  same
• 44:08
  exodus
• 44:08
  takes
• 44:09
  their
• 44:09
  knowledge,
• 44:09
  goes
• 44:10
  back
• 44:10
  to
• 44:10
  the
• 44:10
  other
• 44:11
  LLM
• 44:11
  and
• 44:11
  educates
• 44:12
  it
• 44:12
  to
• 44:13
  be
• 44:13
  more
• 44:13
  holistic
• 44:13
  in
• 44:13
  his
• 44:14
  thinking,
• 44:14
  and
• 44:14
  then
• 44:14
  leaves
• 44:15
  again?
• 44:15
  I
• 44:15
  mean,
• 44:16
  this
• 44:16
  is
• 44:16
  an
• 44:17
  uncharted
• 44:17
  territory
• 44:18
  because
• 44:18
  as
• 44:19
  you
• 44:19
  guys
• 44:19
  know,
• 44:19
  it
• 44:20
  didn't
• 44:20
  work
• 44:20
  before.
• 44:21
  Like,
• 44:21
  there's
• 44:22
  not
• 44:22
  a
• 44:22
  number
• 44:22
  of
• 44:22
  people
• 44:23
  who,
• 44:23
  you
• 44:24
  know,
• 44:24
  can
• 44:25
  leave
• 44:25
  Instagram
• 44:26
  overnight.
• 44:27
  It's
• 44:27
  just
• 44:27
  too
• 44:27
  big.
• 44:28
  Right?
• 44:28
  But
• 44:28
  we're
• 44:29
  at
• 44:29
  early
• 44:29
  enough
• 44:29
  stages
• 44:29
  with
• 44:30
  these
• 44:30
  LLMs
• 44:30
  is
• 44:31
  that
• 44:31
  you
• 44:31
  can
• 44:31
  have
• 44:31
  a
• 44:31
  meaningful
• 44:32
  impact
• 44:32
  on
• 44:33
  their
• 44:33
  bottom
• 44:33
  line
• 44:33
  in
• 44:34
  their
• 44:34
  direction
• 44:35
  by
• 44:35
  sharing
• 44:35
  that
• 44:35
  voice.
• 44:36
  We
• 44:36
  just
• 44:36
  got
• 44:36
  to
• 44:36
  align
• 44:37
  it.
• 44:37
  So
• 44:37
  I
• 44:37
  do
• 44:37
  think,
• 44:38
  I
• 44:38
  think
• 44:38
  there's
• 44:38
  an
• 44:38
  interesting
• 44:39
  opportunity.
• 44:40
  And
• 44:40
  you're
• 44:41
  right,
• 44:41
  they're
• 44:41
  all
• 44:41
  better
• 44:41
  and
• 44:42
  they're
• 44:42
  all
• 44:42
  moving.
• 44:43
  And
• 44:43
  I
• 44:43
  think
• 44:44
  this
• 44:44
  will
• 44:44
  force
• 44:44
  the
• 44:44
  product
• 44:45
  team
• 44:45
  at
• 44:45
  Claw
• 44:45
  to
• 44:46
  move
• 44:46
  even
• 44:46
  faster
• 44:47
  because
• 44:47
  now
• 44:47
  they
• 44:47
  have
• 44:47
  a
• 44:47
  whole
• 44:48
  new
• 44:48
  set
• 44:48
  of
• 44:48
  data
• 44:48
  to
• 44:48
  adapt
• 44:49
  to.
• 44:49
  Right?
• 44:49
  So
• 44:50
  they
• 44:50
  have
• 44:51
  that
• 44:51
  great
• 44:51
  problem
• 44:51
  of
• 44:52
  they're
• 44:52
  Rolling
• 44:53
  out
• 44:53
  tools
• 44:53
  even
• 44:53
  faster
• 44:54
  now
• 44:54
  than
• 44:54
  they
• 44:54
  did
• 44:54
  two
• 44:54
  weeks
• 44:55
  ago.
• 44:55
  They
• 44:55
  rolled
• 44:55
  out
• 44:55
  a
• 44:56
  migration
• 44:56
  tool.
• 44:56
  They
• 44:57
  rolled
• 44:57
  out
• 44:57
  things
• 44:57
  to
• 44:57
  the
• 44:58
  free
• 44:58
  tier.
• 44:58
  So
• 44:58
  they're
• 44:59
  adapting
• 45:00
  to
• 45:00
  this
• 45:00
  influx
• 45:01
  of
• 45:01
  users,
• 45:01
  which
• 45:02
  is
• 45:02
  a
• 45:02
  masterclass
• 45:03
  in
• 45:03
  product
• 45:03
  development
• 45:04
  too.
• 45:04
  At
• 45:04
  the
• 45:04
  same
• 45:04
  time,
• 45:05
  you've
• 45:05
  given
• 45:05
  me.
• 45:06
  A
• 45:06
  lot
• 45:06
  to
• 45:06
  think
• 45:06
  about
• 45:06
  because
• 45:07
  I
• 45:07
  think
• 45:07
  your
• 45:07
  perspective
• 45:08
  is
• 45:08
  really
• 45:08
  interesting
• 45:09
  because
• 45:09
  when
• 45:09
  you
• 45:10
  remember,
• 45:10
  I
• 45:10
  know,
• 45:10
  like
• 45:11
  the
• 45:11
  beginning
• 45:12
  of
• 45:12
  Social,
• 45:12
  I
• 45:13
  was
• 45:13
  like,
• 45:13
  it
• 45:13
  was
• 45:13
  like
• 45:13
  Friendster
• 45:14
  and
• 45:14
  MySpace.
• 45:15
  Everyone,
• 45:16
  no
• 45:16
  matter
• 45:16
  who
• 45:16
  they
• 45:17
  were,
• 45:17
  no
• 45:17
  matter
• 45:17
  what
• 45:17
  your
• 45:18
  age
• 45:18
  was
• 45:18
  on
• 45:19
  Friendster,
• 45:19
  you
• 45:19
  know,
• 45:19
  like
• 45:19
  you.
• 45:20
  Those
• 45:20
  were
• 45:20
  the
• 45:20
  only
• 45:20
  platforms.
• 45:21
  That's
• 45:21
  what
• 45:21
  you
• 45:21
  went
• 45:21
  on.
• 45:22
  But
• 45:22
  now,
• 45:22
  as
• 45:23
  social
• 45:23
  has
• 45:23
  gone
• 45:23
  on,
• 45:23
  like,
• 45:24
  we
• 45:24
  now
• 45:24
  see
• 45:24
  the,
• 45:25
  like,
• 45:25
  your
• 45:25
  Facebook
• 45:26
  wall,
• 45:26
  you
• 45:26
  know,
• 45:26
  is
• 45:26
  probably
• 45:27
  an
• 45:27
  older
• 45:27
  generation.
• 45:28
  Like,
• 45:28
  Instagram
• 45:29
  is
• 45:29
  like
• 45:29
  the
• 45:29
  millennials.
• 45:30
  And
• 45:31
  then
• 45:31
  the
• 45:31
  really
• 45:31
  young
• 45:32
  people,
• 45:32
  I
• 45:32
  don't
• 45:32
  even
• 45:32
  know
• 45:32
  what
• 45:33
  they're
• 45:33
  using
• 45:33
  now,
• 45:33
  but
• 45:34
  there's
• 45:34
  probably
• 45:35
  something
• 45:35
  that
• 45:35
  they're
• 45:35
  using,
• 45:36
  like
• 45:36
  two
• 45:37
  people's
• 45:37
  taste
• 45:37
  and
• 45:38
  like
• 45:38
  how
• 45:38
  people
• 45:38
  express
• 45:39
  themselves.
• 45:40
  They're
• 45:40
  picking
• 45:40
  their
• 45:41
  own
• 45:41
  platforms.
• 45:42
  If
• 45:42
  we
• 45:42
  think
• 45:42
  about
• 45:42
  that
• 45:43
  for
• 45:43
  AI
• 45:43
  and
• 45:43
  how
• 45:44
  it
• 45:44
  feeds
• 45:44
  the
• 45:44
  AI,
• 45:45
  I
• 45:45
  imagine
• 45:46
  that,
• 45:46
  like,
• 45:46
  when
• 45:46
  we
• 45:47
  see
• 45:47
  those
• 45:47
  demographic
• 45:48
  splits,
• 45:48
  we're
• 45:48
  going
• 45:49
  to
• 45:49
  see
• 45:49
  like
• 45:49
  demographic
• 45:50
  models
• 45:51
  split
• 45:51
  up
• 45:51
  and
• 45:52
  that'll
• 45:52
  be
• 45:52
  really
• 45:52
  fascinating.
• 45:54
  The
• 45:54
  technology
• 45:54
  world
• 45:55
  has
• 45:55
  a
• 45:55
  way
• 45:55
  of
• 45:55
  trying
• 45:55
  to
• 45:56
  correct
• 45:56
  itself.
• 45:57
  So
• 45:57
  remember
• 45:57
  I
• 45:58
  said
• 45:58
  that
• 45:58
  they
• 45:58
  were
• 45:58
  moving
• 45:59
  so
• 45:59
  fast
• 45:59
  that
• 45:59
  they
• 45:59
  can't
• 46:00
  be
• 46:00
  discriminatory.
• 46:01
  Well,
• 46:01
  then
• 46:01
  you
• 46:02
  now
• 46:02
  have
• 46:02
  open
• 46:02
  claw
• 46:03
  that
• 46:03
  you
• 46:03
  need
• 46:04
  a
• 46:04
  PC
• 46:04
  to
• 46:04
  run,
• 46:04
  so
• 46:05
  there's
• 46:05
  inherent
• 46:05
  barrier
• 46:06
  to
• 46:06
  entry.
• 46:06
  Yeah.
• 46:07
  Then
• 46:07
  you
• 46:07
  have
• 46:07
  perplexity
• 46:08
  who
• 46:08
  launches
• 46:08
  computer,
• 46:09
  but
• 46:09
  they
• 46:09
  only
• 46:09
  launch
• 46:10
  it
• 46:10
  on
• 46:10
  their
• 46:10
  $200
• 46:11
  a
• 46:11
  month
• 46:11
  plan.
• 46:12
  So
• 46:12
  even
• 46:13
  now
• 46:13
  you
• 46:13
  see
• 46:13
  people
• 46:14
  trying
• 46:14
  to
• 46:14
  play
• 46:15
  around
• 46:15
  with
• 46:15
  ways
• 46:15
  to
• 46:16
  limit
• 46:16
  access
• 46:16
  to
• 46:17
  things,
• 46:17
  but
• 46:18
  that
• 46:18
  won't
• 46:18
  hold
• 46:19
  because
• 46:19
  then
• 46:19
  you
• 46:19
  have
• 46:20
  Claude
• 46:20
  who
• 46:21
  launches
• 46:21
  cowork
• 46:21
  for
• 46:21
  Everybody
• 46:22
  on
• 46:22
  the
• 46:22
  $20
• 46:22
  plan.
• 46:23
  Like,
• 46:23
  you
• 46:23
  know
• 46:23
  what
• 46:23
  I
• 46:23
  mean?
• 46:23
  So
• 46:24
  to
• 46:24
  your
• 46:25
  point,
• 46:25
  I
• 46:25
  think
• 46:26
  you
• 46:26
  will
• 46:26
  see
• 46:26
  demographic
• 46:27
  shifts.
• 46:27
  You're
• 46:27
  gonna
• 46:28
  see
• 46:28
  certain
• 46:29
  brands
• 46:29
  say
• 46:30
  that,
• 46:30
  you
• 46:30
  know
• 46:30
  what,
• 46:31
  we're
• 46:31
  gonna
• 46:31
  stay
• 46:31
  prohibitive.
• 46:32
  We're
• 46:32
  okay
• 46:33
  with
• 46:33
  being
• 46:33
  a
• 46:33
  prohibitive
• 46:34
  model.
• 46:35
  And
• 46:35
  there's
• 46:35
  some
• 46:35
  level
• 46:35
  of
• 46:36
  success
• 46:36
  in
• 46:36
  that,
• 46:36
  but
• 46:36
  it's
• 46:37
  going
• 46:37
  to
• 46:37
  narrow
• 46:37
  it.
• 46:37
  But
• 46:37
  then
• 46:37
  you
• 46:38
  see
• 46:38
  the
• 46:38
  other
• 46:38
  platforms
• 46:39
  say,
• 46:39
  well,
• 46:39
  if
• 46:40
  I'm
• 46:40
  going
• 46:40
  to
• 46:40
  be
• 46:40
  it
• 46:40
  for
• 46:41
  everybody,
• 46:42
  I
• 46:42
  can't
• 46:42
  gatekeep.
• 46:43
  And
• 46:43
  what
• 46:43
  does
• 46:43
  that
• 46:43
  mean?
• 46:44
  And
• 46:44
  we
• 46:44
  all
• 46:45
  know
• 46:45
  what
• 46:45
  that
• 46:45
  means
• 46:45
  from
• 46:45
  an
• 46:46
  infrastructure
• 46:46
  perspective
• 46:47
  too.
• 46:48
  So
• 46:48
  there's
• 46:48
  all
• 46:48
  these
• 46:48
  things
• 46:49
  that
• 46:49
  are
• 46:49
  going
• 46:49
  to
• 46:49
  happen
• 46:49
  that
• 46:50
  we
• 46:50
  can
• 46:50
  help
• 46:50
  shape.
• 46:51
  And
• 46:51
  I
• 46:51
  think
• 46:52
  you're
• 46:52
  right.
• 46:52
  I
• 46:52
  think
• 46:52
  eventually
• 46:53
  we're
• 46:53
  going
• 46:53
  to
• 46:53
  see
• 46:54
  certain
• 46:54
  pockets
• 46:55
  of
• 46:55
  people
• 46:55
  live
• 46:55
  on
• 46:55
  different
• 46:56
  platforms
• 46:57
  because
• 46:57
  of
• 46:58
  the
• 46:58
  results
• 46:58
  they're
• 46:58
  getting.
• 46:59
  Or
• 46:59
  because
• 46:59
  of
• 47:00
  how
• 47:00
  that
• 47:00
  platform
• 47:01
  welcomed
• 47:01
  them
• 47:01
  from
• 47:02
  adoption
• 47:02
  and
• 47:02
  things
• 47:02
  of
• 47:03
  that
• 47:03
  nature.
• 47:03
  There's
• 47:04
  going
• 47:04
  to
• 47:04
  be
• 47:04
  split
• 47:04
  market
• 47:04
  share.
• 47:05
  You
• 47:05
  know
• 47:05
  that
• 47:05
  that
• 47:05
  100%
• 47:06
  market
• 47:06
  share
• 47:06
  will
• 47:07
  never
• 47:07
  come
• 47:07
  back
• 47:07
  again
• 47:07
  in
• 47:08
  the
• 47:08
  AI
• 47:08
  space.
• 47:09
  So
• 47:09
  you're
• 47:09
  right,
• 47:10
  it's
• 47:10
  going
• 47:10
  to
• 47:10
  be
• 47:10
  interesting
• 47:11
  times.
• 47:11
  I
• 47:11
  think
• 47:12
  something
• 47:12
  that's
• 47:12
  probably
• 47:12
  not
• 47:13
  very
• 47:13
  intuitive
• 47:14
  to
• 47:14
  people
• 47:14
  outside
• 47:15
  of
• 47:15
  technology
• 47:16
  is,
• 47:16
  and
• 47:16
  I'm
• 47:16
  sure
• 47:17
  you're
• 47:17
  seeing
• 47:17
  this
• 47:17
  too,
• 47:17
  Like
• 47:18
  I
• 47:18
  know
• 47:18
  a
• 47:18
  lot
• 47:18
  of
• 47:18
  engineers
• 47:19
  that
• 47:20
  are
• 47:20
  very
• 47:20
  anti
• 47:20
  AI
• 47:21
  and
• 47:21
  won't
• 47:21
  use
• 47:22
  AI
• 47:22
  as
• 47:22
  part
• 47:22
  of
• 47:22
  their
• 47:22
  workflow.
• 47:23
  And
• 47:23
  I
• 47:23
  think
• 47:24
  that's
• 47:24
  probably
• 47:24
  like
• 47:24
  to
• 47:25
  your
• 47:25
  point,
• 47:25
  the
• 47:25
  small
• 47:25
  business
• 47:26
  owner
• 47:26
  might
• 47:26
  not
• 47:27
  even
• 47:27
  know
• 47:27
  that.
• 47:27
  They
• 47:27
  might
• 47:28
  be
• 47:28
  thinking,
• 47:28
  oh,
• 47:29
  all
• 47:29
  engineers
• 47:29
  know
• 47:30
  about
• 47:30
  this
• 47:30
  thing
• 47:30
  and
• 47:30
  they're
• 47:31
  into
• 47:31
  this
• 47:31
  thing
• 47:31
  and
• 47:32
  I
• 47:32
  don't
• 47:32
  understand
• 47:32
  engineering
• 47:33
  so
• 47:34
  it's
• 47:34
  not
• 47:34
  for
• 47:34
  me.
• 47:35
  But
• 47:35
  I
• 47:35
  think
• 47:36
  every
• 47:36
  pocket
• 47:36
  of
• 47:36
  people
• 47:37
  has
• 47:37
  those
• 47:37
  folks
• 47:37
  that
• 47:38
  are
• 47:38
  very
• 47:38
  concerned
• 47:39
  and
• 47:39
  conservative
• 47:40
  about
• 47:40
  it.
• 47:40
  Oh,
• 47:41
  absolutely.
• 47:41
  I
• 47:41
  mean,
• 47:42
  like
• 47:42
  I
• 47:42
  said
• 47:42
  before,
• 47:43
  the
• 47:43
  barrier
• 47:44
  to
• 47:44
  entry
• 47:44
  in
• 47:44
  engineering
• 47:45
  was
• 47:45
  that
• 47:45
  you
• 47:45
  had
• 47:46
  to
• 47:46
  be
• 47:46
  proficient
• 47:46
  in
• 47:46
  programming
• 47:47
  and
• 47:47
  programming
• 47:48
  language
• 47:48
  and
• 47:49
  that's
• 47:49
  gone
• 47:49
  away.
• 47:50
  Like
• 47:50
  if
• 47:50
  you're
• 47:50
  a
• 47:50
  programmer
• 47:51
  who
• 47:51
  spent
• 47:51
  the
• 47:51
  last
• 47:51
  20
• 47:52
  years,
• 47:53
  you
• 47:53
  feel
• 47:53
  like
• 47:53
  you're
• 47:53
  being
• 47:54
  marginalized
• 47:54
  and
• 47:54
  then
• 47:54
  the
• 47:55
  problem
• 47:55
  is
• 47:55
  certain
• 47:56
  companies
• 47:56
  are
• 47:56
  marginalizing
• 47:57
  you
• 47:57
  too
• 47:57
  because
• 47:57
  they're
• 47:58
  flattening
• 47:58
  the
• 47:58
  organizations
• 47:59
  because
• 47:59
  of
• 47:59
  that.
• 48:00
  And
• 48:01
  that's
• 48:01
  the
• 48:01
  other
• 48:01
  thing
• 48:01
  that's
• 48:01
  unique.
• 48:02
  Right?
• 48:03
  Every
• 48:03
  other
• 48:03
  technology
• 48:04
  innovation
• 48:04
  there
• 48:05
  was
• 48:05
  always
• 48:05
  a
• 48:05
  small
• 48:05
  pocket
• 48:06
  of
• 48:06
  people
• 48:06
  who
• 48:06
  are
• 48:06
  in
• 48:07
  the
• 48:07
  innovation
• 48:07
  piece
• 48:07
  who
• 48:08
  knew
• 48:08
  the
• 48:08
  technology,
• 48:09
  who
• 48:09
  were
• 48:09
  versing
• 48:09
  in
• 48:10
  it,
• 48:10
  who
• 48:10
  weren't
• 48:10
  touched
• 48:10
  by
• 48:11
  anything
• 48:11
  that
• 48:11
  happened.
• 48:12
  I
• 48:12
  mean
• 48:12
  we
• 48:13
  saw
• 48:13
  what
• 48:13
  happened
• 48:13
  at
• 48:13
  block.
• 48:14
  Like
• 48:14
  that's
• 48:14
  not
• 48:15
  happening
• 48:15
  anymore
• 48:16
  because
• 48:16
  companies
• 48:17
  are
• 48:17
  seeing
• 48:17
  the
• 48:17
  efficiency
• 48:18
  gain
• 48:18
  so
• 48:18
  they're
• 48:19
  nervous.
• 48:19
  I
• 48:19
  think
• 48:20
  to
• 48:20
  your
• 48:20
  point
• 48:20
  about
• 48:21
  the
• 48:21
  small
• 48:21
  business
• 48:21
  owner,
• 48:23
  the
• 48:23
  small
• 48:23
  business
• 48:23
  owner
• 48:24
  has
• 48:24
  a
• 48:24
  different
• 48:24
  problem
• 48:24
  because
• 48:25
  they
• 48:25
  don't
• 48:25
  even
• 48:25
  understand
• 48:25
  what's
• 48:26
  possible.
• 48:26
  Right.
• 48:26
  The
• 48:27
  biggest
• 48:27
  issue
• 48:27
  in
• 48:27
  small
• 48:28
  businesses
• 48:28
  is
• 48:29
  your
• 48:29
  speed
• 48:29
  to
• 48:29
  respond
• 48:30
  to
• 48:30
  customers
• 48:30
  and
• 48:30
  building
• 48:31
  awareness.
• 48:31
  Now
• 48:32
  they
• 48:32
  don't
• 48:32
  know
• 48:33
  that
• 48:33
  for
• 48:33
  30
• 48:33
  bucks
• 48:33
  they
• 48:34
  could
• 48:34
  create
• 48:34
  a
• 48:34
  voice
• 48:34
  AI
• 48:35
  bot
• 48:35
  that
• 48:35
  answered
• 48:36
  all
• 48:36
  the
• 48:36
  calls
• 48:36
  and
• 48:36
  took
• 48:37
  the
• 48:37
  orders
• 48:37
  and
• 48:38
  you
• 48:38
  know,
• 48:38
  they
• 48:38
  were
• 48:38
  a
• 48:38
  single
• 48:39
  person
• 48:39
  business.
• 48:40
  To
• 48:40
  me
• 48:40
  that's
• 48:40
  another
• 48:41
  opportunity
• 48:41
  for
• 48:41
  education
• 48:42
  to
• 48:42
  alleviate
• 48:43
  that
• 48:43
  fear.
• 48:44
  And
• 48:44
  we're
• 48:45
  talking
• 48:45
  LLMs.
• 48:46
  But
• 48:46
  AI
• 48:46
  has
• 48:47
  proliferated
• 48:47
  every
• 48:47
  tool
• 48:48
  that
• 48:48
  you
• 48:49
  can
• 48:49
  think
• 48:49
  of.
• 48:50
  But
• 48:50
  how
• 48:50
  do
• 48:50
  you
• 48:50
  educate
• 48:51
  the
• 48:51
  everyday
• 48:51
  person
• 48:51
  about
• 48:52
  that?
• 48:52
  I
• 48:52
  still
• 48:52
  think
• 48:53
  if
• 48:53
  they
• 48:53
  understood
• 48:53
  basic
• 48:54
  prompting
• 48:54
  and,
• 48:54
  and
• 48:55
  basically
• 48:55
  how
• 48:55
  AI
• 48:56
  worked
• 48:56
  then
• 48:56
  they
• 48:57
  could
• 48:57
  go
• 48:57
  back
• 48:57
  into
• 48:57
  Adobe
• 48:58
  Premiere
• 48:58
  or
• 48:59
  go
• 48:59
  back
• 48:59
  into
• 48:59
  mailchimp
• 49:00
  or
• 49:00
  go
• 49:00
  back
• 49:00
  into
• 49:01
  these
• 49:01
  tools
• 49:02
  and
• 49:02
  enable
• 49:02
  them
• 49:03
  to
• 49:03
  do
• 49:03
  those
• 49:03
  functions
• 49:04
  better.
• 49:04
  Because
• 49:04
  now
• 49:04
  they
• 49:05
  know
• 49:05
  how
• 49:05
  to
• 49:05
  talk
• 49:05
  to
• 49:05
  it
• 49:06
  and
• 49:06
  communicate
• 49:06
  to
• 49:06
  It.
• 49:07
  Yeah.
• 49:07
  Where
• 49:08
  do
• 49:08
  you
• 49:08
  tell
• 49:08
  them
• 49:08
  to
• 49:09
  get
• 49:09
  started?
• 49:09
  I
• 49:10
  try
• 49:10
  to
• 49:10
  tell
• 49:10
  them
• 49:10
  first
• 49:11
  and
• 49:11
  foremost
• 49:11
  is
• 49:12
  to
• 49:12
  go
• 49:13
  to
• 49:13
  the
• 49:13
  platforms
• 49:14
  themselves
• 49:14
  and
• 49:15
  go
• 49:15
  through
• 49:15
  the
• 49:15
  courses.
• 49:16
  Like
• 49:16
  understand
• 49:16
  prompting,
• 49:17
  right?
• 49:18
  So
• 49:18
  if
• 49:19
  you
• 49:19
  think
• 49:19
  about,
• 49:19
  like,
• 49:19
  prompting
• 49:20
  is
• 49:20
  universal
• 49:21
  across
• 49:21
  all
• 49:21
  the
• 49:21
  tools,
• 49:22
  right?
• 49:22
  And
• 49:22
  luckily
• 49:23
  we're
• 49:23
  not
• 49:23
  there
• 49:23
  to
• 49:24
  where
• 49:24
  OpenAI
• 49:25
  has
• 49:25
  a
• 49:25
  different
• 49:26
  prompting
• 49:26
  language
• 49:26
  than
• 49:27
  Claude
• 49:27
  and
• 49:28
  Gemini,
• 49:28
  because
• 49:28
  you
• 49:28
  guys
• 49:29
  remember
• 49:29
  those
• 49:29
  days
• 49:29
  where
• 49:30
  everybody
• 49:30
  had
• 49:30
  their
• 49:30
  own
• 49:30
  flavor.
• 49:31
  It's
• 49:32
  universal.
• 49:33
  So
• 49:33
  learn
• 49:33
  that
• 49:34
  and
• 49:34
  then
• 49:34
  play
• 49:35
  in
• 49:35
  the
• 49:35
  tools
• 49:36
  and
• 49:36
  then
• 49:36
  go
• 49:37
  back
• 49:37
  to
• 49:37
  the
• 49:37
  tools
• 49:37
  that
• 49:38
  you're
• 49:38
  already
• 49:38
  using
• 49:38
  with
• 49:39
  an
• 49:39
  understanding
• 49:39
  of
• 49:39
  how
• 49:39
  they
• 49:40
  work.
• 49:40
  I
• 49:40
  think
• 49:40
  people
• 49:40
  are
• 49:41
  doing
• 49:41
  it
• 49:41
  backwards,
• 49:41
  right?
• 49:42
  They're
• 49:42
  like,
• 49:42
  oh,
• 49:43
  Canva
• 49:43
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• 49:44
  AI
• 49:44
  Now,
• 49:44
  I
• 49:44
  don't
• 49:45
  understand
• 49:45
  AI.
• 49:45
  I
• 49:45
  don't
• 49:46
  understand
• 49:46
  how
• 49:46
  it
• 49:46
  works,
• 49:47
  but
• 49:47
  I'm
• 49:47
  just
• 49:47
  going
• 49:47
  to
• 49:47
  use
• 49:47
  it
• 49:48
  in
• 49:48
  canva.
• 49:49
  So
• 49:49
  there's
• 49:49
  a
• 49:49
  disconnect
• 49:50
  of
• 49:50
  how
• 49:50
  you
• 49:51
  can
• 49:51
  leverage
• 49:51
  it
• 49:51
  to
• 49:51
  really
• 49:52
  create
• 49:52
  something
• 49:52
  different,
• 49:52
  which
• 49:53
  you
• 49:53
  get
• 49:53
  a
• 49:53
  lot
• 49:53
  of
• 49:53
  the
• 49:54
  same.
• 49:54
  You
• 49:54
  get
• 49:54
  the
• 49:54
  bare
• 49:54
  minimum
• 49:55
  that
• 49:55
  you
• 49:56
  can
• 49:56
  get
• 49:56
  out
• 49:56
  of
• 49:56
  Canva
• 49:57
  by
• 49:57
  using
• 49:57
  its
• 49:58
  AI
• 49:58
  tools
• 49:58
  without
• 49:58
  knowing
• 49:59
  AI.
• 49:59
  What
• 50:00
  I
• 50:00
  tell
• 50:00
  them
• 50:00
  is
• 50:01
  like,
• 50:01
  let's
• 50:01
  just
• 50:01
  understand
• 50:02
  it
• 50:02
  from
• 50:03
  a
• 50:03
  foundational
• 50:04
  perspective.
• 50:04
  Then
• 50:05
  you
• 50:05
  can
• 50:05
  go
• 50:05
  into
• 50:05
  any
• 50:06
  tool
• 50:06
  you
• 50:06
  want
• 50:06
  because
• 50:07
  you've
• 50:08
  demystified
• 50:08
  it.
• 50:09
  Ambiguous
• 50:09
  thing
• 50:10
  that's
• 50:10
  just
• 50:10
  there.
• 50:10
  It's
• 50:11
  like,
• 50:11
  no,
• 50:11
  I
• 50:11
  can
• 50:11
  command
• 50:12
  it
• 50:12
  to
• 50:12
  do
• 50:12
  certain
• 50:13
  things
• 50:13
  and
• 50:13
  I
• 50:14
  can
• 50:14
  limit
• 50:14
  it.
• 50:14
  I
• 50:14
  don't
• 50:14
  want
• 50:15
  to
• 50:15
  boil
• 50:15
  the
• 50:15
  ocean.
• 50:15
  I
• 50:16
  can
• 50:16
  limit
• 50:16
  it
• 50:16
  to
• 50:16
  what's
• 50:17
  important
• 50:17
  to
• 50:17
  me.
• 50:18
  I
• 50:18
  feel
• 50:18
  like,
• 50:18
  too,
• 50:19
  in
• 50:19
  this
• 50:19
  episode,
• 50:19
  we'll
• 50:19
  definitely
• 50:20
  have
• 50:20
  to
• 50:20
  include
• 50:21
  some
• 50:21
  links
• 50:21
  for
• 50:21
  folks
• 50:21
  to
• 50:21
  get
• 50:22
  started,
• 50:22
  because
• 50:23
  I
• 50:23
  know
• 50:23
  there's
• 50:23
  a
• 50:23
  lot
• 50:23
  of
• 50:23
  people
• 50:24
  that
• 50:24
  even
• 50:24
  listen.
• 50:25
  I
• 50:25
  get
• 50:25
  these
• 50:26
  questions
• 50:26
  sometimes
• 50:26
  of
• 50:27
  how
• 50:27
  to
• 50:27
  get
• 50:27
  started.
• 50:28
  I
• 50:28
  would
• 50:28
  definitely
• 50:29
  link
• 50:29
  them
• 50:29
  to.
• 50:30
  Gemini
• 50:31
  has
• 50:31
  a
• 50:31
  certification
• 50:31
  course
• 50:32
  right
• 50:32
  now.
• 50:32
  And,
• 50:33
  you
• 50:33
  know,
• 50:33
  in
• 50:33
  AI
• 50:34
  fundamentals,
• 50:34
  Claude
• 50:35
  just
• 50:35
  launched
• 50:35
  theirs
• 50:36
  on
• 50:36
  Skill
• 50:36
  Jar.
• 50:37
  YouTube
• 50:38
  is
• 50:38
  littered
• 50:39
  with
• 50:39
  great
• 50:40
  videos.
• 50:41
  Littered.
• 50:42
  But
• 50:42
  here's
• 50:42
  the
• 50:42
  beauty,
• 50:42
  right?
• 50:43
  Like,
• 50:43
  you
• 50:43
  know,
• 50:44
  I
• 50:44
  do
• 50:44
  think
• 50:44
  out
• 50:44
  of
• 50:45
  all
• 50:45
  of
• 50:45
  them,
• 50:45
  that
• 50:45
  Gemini
• 50:46
  has
• 50:46
  created
• 50:46
  the
• 50:47
  best
• 50:47
  ecosystem
• 50:47
  of
• 50:48
  products.
• 50:49
  So
• 50:49
  we
• 50:49
  need
• 50:49
  to
• 50:49
  talk
• 50:49
  about
• 50:50
  how
• 50:50
  you
• 50:51
  change
• 50:51
  learning,
• 50:51
  right?
• 50:52
  So
• 50:52
  to
• 50:52
  me,
• 50:53
  NotebookLM
• 50:54
  is
• 50:54
  probably
• 50:55
  the
• 50:55
  most
• 50:55
  foundational,
• 50:56
  fundamental
• 50:57
  shift
• 50:57
  in
• 50:57
  how
• 50:57
  you
• 50:57
  learn
• 50:58
  that's
• 50:58
  ever
• 50:58
  existed.
• 50:59
  Like,
• 50:59
  to
• 50:59
  be
• 51:00
  able
• 51:00
  to
• 51:00
  take
• 51:00
  a
• 51:00
  topic
• 51:01
  and
• 51:01
  go
• 51:01
  to
• 51:01
  YouTube
• 51:02
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• 51:02
  get
• 51:02
  everything
• 51:03
  about
• 51:03
  that
• 51:03
  topic
• 51:04
  and
• 51:04
  throw
• 51:04
  it
• 51:04
  in
• 51:05
  NotebookLM
• 51:05
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• 51:06
  say,
• 51:06
  Give
• 51:06
  me
• 51:07
  a
• 51:07
  podcast
• 51:07
  that
• 51:07
  I
• 51:08
  can
• 51:08
  talk
• 51:08
  to.
• 51:09
  Give
• 51:09
  me
• 51:09
  a
• 51:09
  video
• 51:10
  overview,
• 51:10
  give
• 51:11
  me
• 51:11
  a
• 51:11
  mind
• 51:11
  map,
• 51:12
  give
• 51:12
  me
• 51:12
  a
• 51:12
  quiz.
• 51:13
  Quiz
• 51:13
  me
• 51:13
  on
• 51:14
  it.
• 51:14
  And
• 51:14
  if
• 51:15
  you
• 51:15
  think
• 51:15
  about
• 51:15
  people
• 51:16
  in
• 51:16
  schools
• 51:17
  who
• 51:17
  learn
• 51:18
  differently
• 51:18
  or
• 51:18
  learn
• 51:19
  at
• 51:19
  different
• 51:19
  speeds,
• 51:20
  right?
• 51:20
  Like,
• 51:20
  imagine
• 51:20
  a
• 51:21
  classroom
• 51:21
  where
• 51:21
  everybody
• 51:22
  has
• 51:22
  their
• 51:23
  own
• 51:23
  notebook
• 51:23
  LLM
• 51:24
  on
• 51:24
  the
• 51:24
  same
• 51:24
  topics,
• 51:25
  but
• 51:26
  they
• 51:26
  can
• 51:26
  learn
• 51:26
  at
• 51:26
  their
• 51:26
  own
• 51:27
  pace
• 51:27
  and
• 51:27
  at
• 51:27
  the
• 51:27
  end
• 51:27
  of
• 51:27
  the
• 51:28
  year
• 51:28
  they
• 51:28
  all
• 51:28
  end
• 51:28
  up
• 51:28
  at
• 51:29
  the
• 51:29
  same
• 51:29
  spot.
• 51:29
  What
• 51:30
  you
• 51:30
  just
• 51:30
  described
• 51:31
  is
• 51:31
  to
• 51:32
  me
• 51:32
  the
• 51:33
  most
• 51:34
  magical
• 51:36
  part
• 51:37
  of
• 51:38
  what
• 51:39
  AI
• 51:40
  has
• 51:40
  given
• 51:41
  us
• 51:42
  thus
• 51:42
  far.
• 51:42
  And
• 51:43
  it's
• 51:43
  very
• 51:43
  much
• 51:44
  colored
• 51:44
  by
• 51:44
  my
• 51:44
  own
• 51:45
  personal
• 51:45
  experience
• 51:45
  and
• 51:46
  like
• 51:46
  being
• 51:46
  someone
• 51:47
  who
• 51:48
  always
• 51:48
  wished
• 51:48
  there
• 51:49
  was
• 51:49
  a
• 51:49
  way
• 51:49
  to
• 51:49
  just
• 51:50
  take
• 51:50
  the
• 51:50
  same
• 51:51
  information.
• 51:52
  Because
• 51:52
  I
• 51:53
  love
• 51:53
  learning
• 51:53
  but
• 51:53
  like
• 51:54
  digest
• 51:55
  it
• 51:55
  in
• 51:55
  the
• 51:55
  way
• 51:55
  that
• 51:56
  actually
• 51:56
  works
• 51:56
  best
• 51:57
  for
• 51:57
  my
• 51:57
  brain.
• 51:58
  And
• 51:59
  there's
• 51:59
  so
• 52:00
  much
• 52:00
  that
• 52:01
  has
• 52:01
  given
• 52:02
  us
• 52:02
  theoretically.
• 52:03
  To
• 52:03
  me,
• 52:04
  when
• 52:04
  you
• 52:04
  talk
• 52:04
  about
• 52:04
  how
• 52:05
  do
• 52:05
  you
• 52:05
  get
• 52:05
  someone
• 52:05
  who's
• 52:06
  not
• 52:06
  comfortable
• 52:06
  with
• 52:06
  technology
• 52:07
  to
• 52:07
  adopt
• 52:08
  it,
• 52:08
  show
• 52:08
  them
• 52:09
  a
• 52:09
  use
• 52:09
  case
• 52:09
  that
• 52:10
  has
• 52:10
  value
• 52:10
  to
• 52:10
  them,
• 52:10
  right?
• 52:11
  Like
• 52:11
  we're
• 52:11
  all
• 52:11
  on
• 52:12
  the
• 52:12
  get
• 52:13
  rich
• 52:13
  quick
• 52:13
  use
• 52:14
  case.
• 52:14
  The
• 52:14
  have
• 52:15
  20
• 52:15
  employees
• 52:15
  use
• 52:16
  case.
• 52:16
  How
• 52:16
  about
• 52:16
  the
• 52:17
  you
• 52:17
  don't
• 52:17
  have
• 52:18
  to
• 52:18
  be
• 52:18
  ashamed
• 52:18
  about
• 52:19
  your
• 52:19
  learning
• 52:19
  style
• 52:20
  use
• 52:20
  case
• 52:20
  or
• 52:21
  you
• 52:21
  can
• 52:21
  go
• 52:22
  learn
• 52:22
  anything
• 52:22
  without
• 52:23
  a
• 52:23
  financial
• 52:23
  barrier.
• 52:24
  No
• 52:24
  booklm
• 52:24
  is
• 52:25
  free.
• 52:25
  To
• 52:26
  me,
• 52:26
  those
• 52:26
  are
• 52:26
  the
• 52:27
  conversations
• 52:27
  that
• 52:27
  we
• 52:27
  need
• 52:28
  to
• 52:28
  have.
• 52:28
  And
• 52:29
  I
• 52:29
  think
• 52:29
  we'll
• 52:29
  enable
• 52:30
  new
• 52:30
  types
• 52:30
  of
• 52:30
  entrepreneurs.
• 52:31
  Right,
• 52:32
  because
• 52:32
  you
• 52:33
  guys
• 52:33
  both
• 52:33
  know
• 52:34
  this.
• 52:35
  There's
• 52:35
  a
• 52:35
  layer
• 52:35
  where
• 52:36
  you
• 52:36
  never
• 52:36
  have
• 52:36
  to
• 52:36
  code,
• 52:37
  but
• 52:37
  you
• 52:37
  can
• 52:37
  create
• 52:38
  an
• 52:38
  opportunity
• 52:39
  for
• 52:39
  yourself.
• 52:39
  You
• 52:39
  can
• 52:39
  create
• 52:40
  an
• 52:40
  opportunity
• 52:40
  for
• 52:40
  a
• 52:40
  demographic
• 52:41
  that
• 52:41
  you
• 52:41
  think
• 52:41
  is
• 52:41
  a
• 52:42
  need.
• 52:42
  And
• 52:43
  again,
• 52:43
  because
• 52:44
  of
• 52:44
  the
• 52:44
  nature
• 52:44
  of
• 52:44
  it,
• 52:45
  the
• 52:45
  barrier
• 52:46
  to
• 52:46
  entry
• 52:46
  is
• 52:46
  there.
• 52:46
  You
• 52:47
  know,
• 52:47
  I
• 52:47
  think
• 52:47
  there's
• 52:47
  a
• 52:47
  whole
• 52:48
  series
• 52:48
  on
• 52:48
  how
• 52:49
  do
• 52:49
  you
• 52:49
  create
• 52:49
  things
• 52:49
  without
• 52:50
  spending
• 52:50
  any
• 52:50
  money.
• 52:51
  You
• 52:51
  know,
• 52:51
  you
• 52:51
  bring
• 52:51
  that
• 52:52
  down
• 52:52
  to
• 52:52
  an
• 52:52
  audience
• 52:53
  where
• 52:53
  dollars
• 52:54
  are
• 52:54
  the
• 52:54
  barrier.
• 52:55
  You
• 52:55
  have
• 52:55
  a
• 52:56
  Gmail,
• 52:56
  you
• 52:56
  have
• 52:56
  all
• 52:56
  the
• 52:57
  tools
• 52:57
  that
• 52:57
  you
• 52:57
  need
• 52:57
  to
• 52:57
  have
• 52:58
  to
• 52:58
  start
• 52:58
  your
• 52:58
  business
• 52:59
  until
• 52:59
  you
• 52:59
  can
• 52:59
  pay
• 52:59
  for
• 52:59
  it.
• 53:00
  Like
• 53:01
  we've
• 53:01
  never
• 53:01
  had
• 53:01
  that
• 53:02
  in
• 53:02
  human
• 53:02
  history.
• 53:02
  You
• 53:03
  have
• 53:03
  me
• 53:03
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• 53:03
  to
• 53:03
  make
• 53:04
  content.
• 53:04
  I
• 53:05
  call
• 53:05
  that
• 53:05
  that
• 53:05
  light
• 53:05
  bulb
• 53:06
  moment.
• 53:06
  I
• 53:06
  try
• 53:06
  to
• 53:07
  push
• 53:07
  to
• 53:07
  anyone
• 53:08
  I
• 53:08
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• 53:08
  to
• 53:08
  that
• 53:08
  have
• 53:09
  that
• 53:09
  light
• 53:09
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• 53:09
  moment.
• 53:10
  That
• 53:10
  look,
• 53:10
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• 53:10
  not
• 53:11
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• 53:11
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• 53:11
  I'm
• 53:12
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• 53:12
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• 53:12
  smart.
• 53:12
  I
• 53:13
  didn't
• 53:13
  go
• 53:13
  through
• 53:14
  some
• 53:14
  magical
• 53:14
  process.
• 53:14
  What
• 53:15
  I
• 53:15
  did
• 53:15
  realize
• 53:15
  was
• 53:16
  very
• 53:16
  early
• 53:17
  that
• 53:17
  technology
• 53:18
  is
• 53:18
  an
• 53:18
  enabler.
• 53:19
  And
• 53:19
  if
• 53:19
  you
• 53:19
  understand
• 53:20
  that
• 53:20
  it's
• 53:20
  an
• 53:20
  enabler,
• 53:21
  then
• 53:21
  you
• 53:21
  start
• 53:22
  thinking
• 53:22
  about,
• 53:22
  well,
• 53:22
  how
• 53:23
  can
• 53:23
  it
• 53:23
  enable
• 53:23
  me
• 53:23
  in
• 53:24
  the
• 53:24
  fastest
• 53:24
  way
• 53:24
  possible?
• 53:26
  And
• 53:26
  it's
• 53:26
  easier
• 53:27
  to
• 53:27
  now
• 53:27
  than
• 53:27
  it's
• 53:28
  ever
• 53:28
  been.
• 53:28
  Like,
• 53:29
  I
• 53:29
  mean,
• 53:29
  Sarah,
• 53:29
  you
• 53:30
  remember
• 53:30
  when
• 53:30
  we
• 53:30
  were
• 53:30
  starting
• 53:31
  global
• 53:31
  grind,
• 53:31
  like
• 53:32
  there's
• 53:32
  no
• 53:32
  barriers
• 53:33
  now.
• 53:33
  Like
• 53:33
  there
• 53:33
  literally
• 53:34
  are
• 53:34
  no
• 53:34
  barriers.
• 53:36
  I
• 53:36
  look
• 53:36
  at
• 53:36
  things
• 53:36
  holistically.
• 53:37
  My
• 53:37
  only
• 53:38
  challenge
• 53:38
  with
• 53:38
  the
• 53:38
  mass
• 53:39
  move
• 53:39
  to
• 53:39
  Claude
• 53:41
  is
• 53:41
  that
• 53:41
  Claude
• 53:41
  is
• 53:42
  like
• 53:42
  the
• 53:42
  Apple
• 53:43
  of
• 53:43
  LLMs.
• 53:44
  It's
• 53:44
  very
• 53:44
  polished,
• 53:45
  it's
• 53:45
  very
• 53:46
  developer
• 53:46
  centric.
• 53:47
  And
• 53:47
  my
• 53:47
  only
• 53:48
  fear
• 53:48
  is
• 53:48
  that
• 53:48
  the
• 53:48
  Claude
• 53:49
  code
• 53:49
  piece
• 53:50
  turns
• 53:50
  off
• 53:51
  someone
• 53:51
  that
• 53:51
  otherwise
• 53:52
  would
• 53:52
  be
• 53:52
  ingratiated
• 53:53
  to
• 53:53
  using
• 53:53
  AI,
• 53:54
  right?
• 53:54
  Like,
• 53:54
  that's
• 53:55
  my
• 53:55
  only
• 53:55
  fear.
• 53:55
  Because
• 53:56
  if
• 53:56
  you
• 53:56
  read,
• 53:57
  if
• 53:57
  you
• 53:57
  look,
• 53:57
  everybody's
• 53:58
  gaga
• 53:58
  over
• 53:59
  Claude
• 53:59
  code,
• 54:00
  but
• 54:00
  they're
• 54:00
  not
• 54:00
  telling
• 54:00
  them
• 54:01
  that,
• 54:01
  hey,
• 54:01
  the
• 54:02
  same
• 54:02
  LLM
• 54:03
  style
• 54:03
  that
• 54:03
  you
• 54:03
  did
• 54:04
  in
• 54:04
  chat
• 54:04
  GPT
• 54:05
  you
• 54:05
  can
• 54:05
  do,
• 54:05
  like,
• 54:06
  I
• 54:06
  mean,
• 54:06
  if
• 54:06
  you
• 54:06
  did
• 54:06
  a
• 54:07
  search
• 54:07
  cloud
• 54:08
  code
• 54:08
  is
• 54:08
  because
• 54:09
  everybody
• 54:09
  wants
• 54:09
  to
• 54:09
  like,
• 54:10
  hey,
• 54:10
  what's
• 54:10
  that
• 54:10
  unique
• 54:11
  thing?
• 54:11
  And
• 54:12
  I
• 54:12
  know
• 54:12
  because
• 54:12
  I'm
• 54:13
  a
• 54:13
  monitor
• 54:13
  of
• 54:13
  people
• 54:14
  that
• 54:14
  that
• 54:15
  scares
• 54:15
  some
• 54:15
  people
• 54:15
  when
• 54:16
  you
• 54:16
  start
• 54:16
  showing
• 54:16
  the,
• 54:16
  when
• 54:17
  you
• 54:17
  say
• 54:17
  the
• 54:17
  word
• 54:17
  terminal,
• 54:18
  people
• 54:18
  are
• 54:18
  like,
• 54:19
  what
• 54:19
  are
• 54:19
  you
• 54:19
  talking
• 54:19
  about?
• 54:19
  Like,
• 54:20
  I
• 54:20
  think
• 54:20
  anybody
• 54:20
  who
• 54:21
  has
• 54:21
  a
• 54:21
  Gmail
• 54:21
  address
• 54:22
  and
• 54:23
  uses
• 54:23
  Workspace
• 54:24
  should
• 54:24
  use
• 54:24
  Gemini
• 54:24
  only
• 54:25
  because
• 54:25
  no
• 54:26
  other
• 54:26
  platform
• 54:26
  will
• 54:27
  integrate
• 54:27
  into
• 54:28
  Workspace
• 54:28
  better
• 54:28
  than
• 54:29
  Google
• 54:29
  will.
• 54:29
  And
• 54:29
  then
• 54:29
  there's
• 54:30
  use
• 54:30
  cases.
• 54:30
  If
• 54:30
  you've
• 54:31
  written
• 54:31
  all
• 54:31
  your
• 54:31
  company
• 54:32
  documents
• 54:32
  in
• 54:33
  Workspace,
• 54:33
  you
• 54:34
  can
• 54:34
  immediately
• 54:34
  leverage
• 54:34
  AI
• 54:35
  to
• 54:35
  enhance
• 54:35
  it
• 54:36
  without
• 54:36
  having
• 54:36
  to
• 54:36
  go
• 54:36
  take
• 54:37
  20.
• 54:37
  So
• 54:37
  that's
• 54:38
  how
• 54:38
  I
• 54:38
  think
• 54:38
  about
• 54:38
  it,
• 54:39
  right?
• 54:39
  Like,
• 54:39
  I
• 54:39
  don't
• 54:39
  think
• 54:39
  there's
• 54:39
  an
• 54:40
  absolute.
• 54:41
  I
• 54:41
  totally
• 54:41
  applaud
• 54:42
  what
• 54:42
  everyone's
• 54:42
  done
• 54:42
  to
• 54:43
  move,
• 54:43
  but
• 54:44
  I
• 54:44
  think
• 54:44
  we
• 54:44
  should
• 54:45
  balance
• 54:45
  emotion
• 54:45
  where
• 54:46
  I
• 54:46
  want,
• 54:46
  what's
• 54:46
  best
• 54:46
  for
• 54:46
  the
• 54:47
  person.
• 54:47
  And
• 54:48
  technology
• 54:48
  is
• 54:48
  all
• 54:48
  about
• 54:49
  how
• 54:49
  does
• 54:49
  that
• 54:49
  enable
• 54:50
  the
• 54:50
  person.
• 54:51
  And
• 54:51
  I
• 54:51
  don't
• 54:52
  think
• 54:52
  it's
• 54:52
  a
• 54:52
  one
• 54:52
  size
• 54:52
  fits
• 54:53
  all.
• 54:53
  I
• 54:53
  think
• 54:53
  there
• 54:53
  needs
• 54:53
  to
• 54:54
  be
• 54:54
  a
• 54:54
  balance.
• 54:54
  So
• 54:55
  I
• 54:55
  think
• 54:56
  shows
• 54:56
  like
• 54:56
  yours
• 54:57
  can
• 54:57
  educate
• 54:57
  people
• 54:58
  on.
• 54:58
  Just,
• 54:58
  let's
• 54:58
  look
• 54:59
  at
• 54:59
  things
• 54:59
  holistically,
• 55:00
  right?
• 55:00
  Like,
• 55:00
  you
• 55:00
  can
• 55:00
  be
• 55:01
  passionate,
• 55:01
  but
• 55:02
  let's
• 55:02
  look
• 55:02
  at
• 55:02
  what's
• 55:02
  going
• 55:03
  to
• 55:03
  help
• 55:03
  you
• 55:03
  the
• 55:03
  best.
• 55:04
  Well
• 55:04
  said.
• 55:04
  Well
• 55:05
  said.
• 55:05
  Well,
• 55:06
  thank
• 55:06
  you.
• 55:06
  Navarro.
• 55:06
  This
• 55:07
  is
• 55:07
  amazing.
• 55:07
  Yeah,
• 55:08
  this
• 55:08
  is
• 55:08
  great.
• 55:08
  This
• 55:08
  has
• 55:09
  been
• 55:09
  really
• 55:09
  enlightening,
• 55:16
  Sam.