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#63 Best Prem Player? · Draft Offsides Podcast

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Think Liverpool's next right. Nopal's next. 1st to the 3rd,
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1st to the third. I have something to ask for
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forgiveness for. First of all, this is like a
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fucking no no. In fantasy, this is like a huge
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sin. I literally had a look at that
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man for fucking two hours straight as we play next year
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that he just whip my ass in fantasy.
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The Snanch of Enzo is still on and give him a couple of more.
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Because I like Derek. Me and Derek are friends would
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baby. This conversation is stupid.
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Just disregard it. It's OK.
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All right, Well, I'm. I'm feeling a little hurt and
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betrayed, but I think we should we should move on before this
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feeling deepens. Hello.
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Welcome to episode 63 of Draft Offsides.
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I'm with Tico Enzo. My name is Keith.
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We are coming to you from another week of fantasy.
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What is that? Was that week eight, Week eight,
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week 8? Some of us are winners, some of
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us are losers. Some of us had better weeks than
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others. Chico's sitting here gritting
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his ass off. I'm I'm mixed.
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And so how are you? How'd you end up?
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I think I won both we, I won both my games.
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This I. Think you think you don't know?
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I won him. No, I did.
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I won both my games. So I'm four and four and coming
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where I am in the other league. Actually, I'm four or four in
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the main league. Yeah, I'm, I'm having a bit of a
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slide in our main league, but it's it's not because of poor
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performances, because I'm, I'm still the top scoring team.
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I've just been going up against teams that are just being
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slightly better every week. So I'm like 2 game two game last
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streak. But I've been the second highest
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or third highest scoring team on both of those.
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So you can't get mad. You just got to move on.
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You got to roll the punches. Yeah.
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I'm just annoyed that the only reason you're the highest
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performing for the year is because of that one monster
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called Palmer game. Literally, that's what our
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difference is that. That's a different game.
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Yeah. Hey, it's all it takes.
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Yep. Called Palmer baby.
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No, I actually shouldn't be saying that at all because he
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had a horrible game this week. But let's let's let's hop into
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sons and dads and we can talk about some of the games.
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Let's let's go that that route. Speaking of best players in the
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Premier League, guard Nacho. Also known as good as good Nacho
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30 points versus projected 11.72 at one goal and five shots on
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target. Just was a good scoring game for
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United overall. They won the game and this was
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Garnacho's first like monster game, which I know Enzo and I
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were pretty high on him coming into the season.
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We thought he would get this games earlier and more more
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often, more often. So hopefully this leads to more
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success, but we'll see. But Garnacho showed up.
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Yeah, I mean, he showed up. He's had a few games where he
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showed up. He's he seems very like kind of
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spotty though, right? Do you feel that way?
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It's the first game he showed up when he's starting because all
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the other games where he came off the bench is when he scored
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his points. So this was a this is this is
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good for a fancy owner knowing that you can actually now star
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when he starts and see that he has he actually him, Rashford
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and Hoyland actually all played really well together.
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So that's that's, that's a good thing for fancy owners.
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It's the first game they won that Garnacho has started.
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I mean, I mean, how many people were really starting in that
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too, do you think? Because like his previous three
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games, he scored 6.254 point 5 and 2.25, and that's what's
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starting all three of them. You know, I, I dropped, I think
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I put him to the bench for two of those games and then I was, I
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had to put him on this week and luckily I did so do.
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You think that next week he delivers I.
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Don't know. No, they I don't know about.
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It's my United team. I know that's the thing they're
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so like and or miss. They play West Ham next week.
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And they've been horrible, too. Yeah.
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So we'll see. Yeah, I mean, good for good for
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the good for ground Nacho, huh? Yeah, not go Nacho, but yeah,
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not Nacho cheese, yeah. Who else do we have on here?
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Curtis Jones of Liverpool had 30 points, one goal, one assist.
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I know for the penalty they get an assist.
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I guess whoever creates the penalty, second start of the
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year and the last week he got the start he had 7 1/2 points.
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So it's a player to keep an eye out for.
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If he gets starts he might be a spot starter.
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I'm curious about this one because do you, do you really
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see him up ending McAllister or Grabenberg in those two six
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roles? I don't think grabbing Butch
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under Arnie slot is like something else this season.
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Graham Butch has been fucking great.
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Macalister's Macallister. Macallister is consistent.
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But honestly, do you if did you watch this game?
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Yeah. I mean, look, fucking he looked
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fucking good. I mean, he was getting so up and
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down the field like he was really, he like really shut down
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Cole Palmer, you know, from a defensive standpoint.
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And then offensively, he was in the box a bunch.
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And technically he was sound right technically.
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And technically, he was sad. See, are you, are you thinking
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that he can really make a case to start moving forward?
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I think he's making a hard case for Annie Slott to redecide
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about who he's going to start, and that's all up to Annie
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Slott. And then if that's the case, is
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he worth picking up? Well, like Tico said, you know,
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he's this. He's had two starts.
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His last start was 7.5. It's a stay.
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It's another match up slash. You got to put him on your bench
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because he's not going to starve every week.
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Do you have a space for him on your bench?
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Are you solid in your midfield where you can take a risk?
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I don't know. I think I would pick him up,
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keep him on the bench. I would if I pick him up, I
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wouldn't start him in next week's matchup for this coming
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weekend, but I will want to keep him on my bench just to see if
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it leads to more starts or more production.
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Just because if you have enough debt, you don't want to put an
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uncertainty in there. But I think it's someone I would
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definitely like to handcuff, especially if you have Mcalter
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Gravanbridge, just in case they do lose their spot.
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That's a really good way to look at it because I think for me
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it's it's hard for me to justify picking him up when you need
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someone because you to your point, like you just don't know
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if he's going to start. But if you have a McAllister,
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Gavin Birch, then all of a sudden he becomes a lot more
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interesting because then you're kind of guaranteeing a spot in
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the Liverpool mid show for yourself.
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So I like that. OK, we'll use the next.
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Ethan Ethan Ethan pinout 22 points versus projected 10.05
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Second game in OR that he scored a goal.
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He has two for the year, matching his total for all of
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last year. I don't think he could do it
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again, do you? Do what?
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Beat one of the top defenders. No score a goal.
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I mean, he's done it twice now. Yeah, back to.
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Like you mean for the whole year he won't score another goal?
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I'm not saying he would have won't score another goal, but
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remember. The last time you made a bet
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like that? That's why I'm flying my fucking
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tongue. But this is also he.
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Hasn't stopped scoring since he made that.
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Stop scoring. Picked him up, remember?
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Sure. I just, I don't know honestly I
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think either Bank is a good defender though.
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I think he can get points from some from different things.
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Ariel's tackles, 1 interceptions, things like that.
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But again, a goal weekend we got.
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I don't think so. No, I mean the goals are a
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bonus. I think the one thing I will say
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which a trend I've noticed is is defenders scoring more goals
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because set pieces are becoming so much more important.
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And there's so many more like picks and special plays where
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they're trying to get their best headers of the ball open for set
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pieces. So like when you look at like
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Saliba on Arsenal, like how many goals does he have already this
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season? You know you.
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I say Gabrielle. I think Gabrielle is.
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One, I'm sorry, Gabrielle, that's what I'm talking about.
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Yeah. So he's like, he's clearly the
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target for. Fucking time.
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And so in that sense, if like Brentford was kind of one of the
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original teams that was like really big on set piece plays
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and doing this whole like kind of this new era of set piece
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play stuff. And like, so if they're kind of
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incorporating that and Pinnick is like the ex, you know, the ex
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player and their set piece players, that all of a sudden
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becomes interesting. But at the end of the day, even
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with that being said, it's not like you're going to have more
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than two or three more goals in a year, you know?
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But honorable mention Casa Nero 19 1/2 points versus projected
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12.73. The surprising and impressive
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thing on this is majority of his points came from key passes.
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He had four and he had one shot on goal.
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That's. 10 points, yeah. Yeah, so he got 10 points there
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and then he had some deductions as well, like dribbling, but
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obviously he's going to have the tackles, the experiences, all of
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that stuff as well. But 19.5 points for a player who
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essentially few weeks ago we thought he's pretty much benched
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forever, but the guy just keeps putting up tackles and
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performances like that. Yeah, I don't know.
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I mean, obviously aside from the fact that he fucked me this
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week. Thanks a lot, Enzo.
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For that I don't I, I look how does our man know that Castamir
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was going to put up 19.5 points and make sure that you didn't
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win your match up by 7 points? Well then why you didn't say
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anything? Why you even?
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Because I like Derek. Me and Derek are friends.
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You're not friends with Keith. I am.
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But Keith's players, all Keith's team was playing.
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Derek's player wasn't playing. All right, it's fine.
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Let's let's move on. I still think, I mean, I'm, I'm
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not like sold on Casamiros, though.
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I'm sold. I think this was a little bit of
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the fact that I mean, what they went behind early, correct.
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Yeah. No.
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Did they go behind? They went up and then Brentford
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scored, didn't they? No, they scored.
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They scored. They scored in the first half,
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Yeah. And I think it was just like, I
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mean, they mean Brentford. I think like, United really
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turned on the The Jets after that, yeah.
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Because honestly, Brentford was a better team in the first half.
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Yeah. I think Casimiro will have
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performances like this from time to time just because of his
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experience and the amount of times he's played.
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So I, I don't think it's going to be on a regular basis where
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he puts up 10 plus, but I think he'll hover around like 8:00 to
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12:00. Yeah, I don't think he's a
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consistent WAR player. Is that?
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Yeah. I mean, I mean, yeah,
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absolutely. I think it's interesting that
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his his ownership has dropped so much.
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He's only owned a 25% of leagues now.
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So I think the majority of people are.
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We're not. Not gave up on him.
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Yeah, they're little. They've gotten burned too much
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by him. Yep.
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So that's interesting from that standpoint.
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Don't help that Ugarte is it was a guy.
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Is he? Injured now I think he's
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injured. Yeah, he's injured now.
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So I mean, but I still, I mean a holding midfielder for a United
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team. I mean, but was this like this
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represented like 20% of the goals they've scored in the
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Premier League all season this game?
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Pretty much, yeah. But you know, usually they do
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get clean sheets, so that's what you have for a midfielder.
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You'll get the clean sheet, You get one point clean sheet from
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the midfielder. I mean, yeah, I don't know.
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I'm not like a big, I'm not like super keen on Casimiro.
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No, it's not large. This.
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This result? No.
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Especially because what, next week they play West Ham?
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Yeah, I don't know. Just doesn't doesn't do much for
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me. No.
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OK, let's go to Duds. Mark GUI 2 1/2 points versus
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projected at 11.2. So after he made the studs list,
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I think it was three weeks ago, he has averaged he has had two
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games of 5.5 points and 2 1/2 points.
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It happened when Enzo picked him up, so I'm calling it the Enzo
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Curse. That's no, no, it's not the Enzo
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curse. Look, I didn't watch the today's
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game, but they lost one nil, so you know, didn't get the clinchy
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points and the last week. It's not the Enzo curse.
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He's just scoring for a bad game.
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We'll be back. I'm just throwing it out there.
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OK, I think it's all of Crystal Palace that's been struggling a
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little bit. Yep.
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So it's not just him, it's everyone like as you know,
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attacking defensively. They're just not quite there.
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But I mean, but then you look at what's his name?
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The other the Trevor Chaliba had a solid game for Palace today.
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So it's just I don't know, Gwahey.
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I mean, is this kind of how he was this how he was last year?
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Like he obviously his profile really expanded because of the
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EUR and the heck he was playing for England, but he was always
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for the most part not a super high scoring fantasy player.
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I think Newcastle go off the weekend in January.
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Really. Yeah, I think.
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So I think if Palace is remotely near the drop zone, there's no
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way they sell them. Should maybe if they think they
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need something else. I don't know, Enzo curse.
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I like that, though, except for it didn't work for Riley Menes.
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But I guess there's like a little of spite that Riley Menes
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has for Enzo. He's like, I'm going.
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Also, you and I overruled Enzo curse, we could overcome it.
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Yeah. All right.
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Who else do we have? Matteo Kovachic 3 points versus
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projected 12.32 they were playing was bottom of the table
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to me. Kovachic has been has a couple
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of good games this year, but I think what holds him back from
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being in very good to the fantasy player is his
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consistency basis, which also is kind of telling of his career.
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But Kovachic only three points versus the favorable matchup.
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How come she didn't call this the Bloody Keep curse?
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'Cause I started him last week when he scored 23 points.
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And I think he was on the bench this week.
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Yeah, I definitely had him on the bench this week.
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Yeah. OK.
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I mean, yeah, Kovach is not someone who gets a lot of points
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normally. This year has been a little bit
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of like a weird anomaly for him to have as many points as he
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does, you know? But I'm not like, I'm not really
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sold on him consistently the rest of the season.
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I'm just using him kind of now while I can.
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But yeah, I don't think anyone can really replace that Rodri
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kind of position. No, I don't think so.
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Why? But I think he's just a filler.
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Like I said, January, they'll buy someone to try to fill.
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That for you. But I think that you guys, I
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think that you guys point, I mean, I think similar to
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Casamiro, I think that there's a level of like when you're on a
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good team that's pushing forward really aggressively, like City
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where because city we're also down early or not city down,
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we're way down way earlier than United.
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Everyone's going to score points because you're going to have
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most of the ball. You're just going to have some
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more opportunities to make keep passes and stuff.
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So I think it's a game state thing a lot of times, but like
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certain games are just not either so.
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I mean, just the weird fact that I came across for COVID Church,
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well, now we're something I found interesting.
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He has four Champions Leagues. Yeah.
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Yeah, Chelsea. And he's, he's that Madrid for.
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That's the Madrid. Yeah, he's on the bench.
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OK, Who else do we have? A male smeet role negative half
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a point versus projected 15.55. He's averaging 7 points per
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game. And I think he was one of the
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players that was kind of people were high on him because the
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uncertainty and they thought he could produce a lot of points.
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But I feel like he's been one of the more disappointing players
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this year for fantasy. When you say people, you mean
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Sergey I? Was I was.
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So was I. I didn't I, I said it'd be bare
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on that team, but I didn't think it was going to be a star.
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I think 7 points per game is still good for ESR, don't you
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think? It's OK, you wish it was a
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little. Better.
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I think you wish it was a little better, but for a player that
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Hardy played last year for Arsenal, went to a brand new
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team, new seller where he wasn't, Honestly, he wasn't
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going to be the main, the main, the main guy.
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I mean, the hope was that he was going to be a little bit more of
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a main guy. I think, I think at the end of
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the day, like so far in this season, he's had he's had like
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what I, I would consider 1234 exceptional games and 1234 games
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that are like really bad. So I think that's just
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consistency for him. But I think I told you guys this
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after like the week, first or second week, even after he
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scored a goal, like I didn't love the his role in that team.
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It felt like it could, he could very easily get lost in the in
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the system, you know. So I'm, I'm a little concerned
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about it. He might be someone I might be
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looking to trade. He's yeah.
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I just don't think he's A10. They try to play him like A10.
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He ain't A10. Yeah, we've had this discussion.
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Yeah, I get that. I I I understand fully.
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Yeah. Hey, before we get into the
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honorable mention, can I, can I talk about one that I wanted to
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that I've been noticing that's just been bad for a while now?
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Who? Leon Bailey Go.
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He's so bad. What happened from between last
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year and? This year, I know.
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He had a little bit of an injury to start the season and just
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it's. Just horrendous.
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No balls into the box like he looks like when Brendan Johnson
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run, like Brendan Jobs have a better things than him.
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I'm just saying when he dribbles, he just cuts inside to
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like three guys and just gets dispossessed.
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Well, I mean, watching him last year, you could visibly see him
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when you're like, wow, he's just so much faster and he just can
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get by anyone and you just you just have not seen that this
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year. No, I think it's like not quite
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time to like fully drop him. But it's like he's not starting
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to answer me anymore, you know? Yeah, yeah, I started when I
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shouldn't have this week because I had no choice, but shouldn't
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have. Yeah, I think he I'm fully, like
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pretty fully off him. I'm with you.
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Yeah, that's a good one. It's a painful and.
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For me. OK, who's the honorable mention,
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Tiko? Holland and Cole Palmer come by,
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they had 5.5 points. I honestly after how long had
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that thought of a game? I think he had zero points until
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like the 85th minute and Keith, you had Cole Palmer playing
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next. I'm sure you were happy that you
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were going to win your. Match I was guaranteed.
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I literally had two players playing on Sunday and it was
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Trent and Cole Palmer. I was like and I was like I win
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this match up easy. They combined for less than 10
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points or they combined. Like 10 points really.
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Yeah, not ideal, but I mean, I think for Cole, like if you look
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at his season, like he's had two bad games and six very good
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games, so you can't get that mad about it.
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Holland is a little bit of a Druid story.
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Was this two duds in a row? Yeah, I think at least.
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How long has Roger been out for? Because ever since Roger went
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out he dumb fuck all. No, what are you talking about?
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I think Roderick didn't play single game did he?
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Like one or two Last week he had ten.
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Well, 10/8 and 1/2, but then he was 20253837.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not Harlan standards
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though, is it? I mean, it's just, it's what it
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is, I guess. I mean, it's going to happen,
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right? Like if any striker and the
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thing that was wild that I said I saw is that he had the lowest
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XG on any of any player on the pitch.
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And even like Wolves players, Wolves offenders.
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No. Maybe it was only City players,
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but still he had the lowest actually of any city player on
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the pitch. It's just like, I don't, I don't
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see. Look, don't get wrong, I know
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Roger is a fucking amazing midfielder, but with the talent
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on that team I don't see why they can't seem to.
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Because if you really look at that Wolves game, Wolves played
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pretty well and they scored against the C team and I think C
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were lucky at the end to get that that winner in the last
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minute. What is what is stopping Harlem
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from scoring? They can't be Rhodri.
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What's stopping Harlem from scoring?
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I think the way they play defenses, they drop everyone
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back. There's constantly two people
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around them and essentially you have to cross it in or give him
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the ball so he could turn and take the shot.
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He doesn't have the space. And what I've been noticing this
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crappier teams do against City, they just put everyone in the
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box. An old City does is they just
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pass the ball to Grillish or whoever's on the left.
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He dribbles inside, passes back to the top and they just rotate
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it. They're not putting any balls in
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the box. So but you're but you're we're
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not good. You're not going to take Holland
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as a lineup. No, of course.
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And I mean, like next week they're playing Southampton.
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He hasn't scored three goals, three goals in three games.
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I'm sorry, he hasn't scored in three games in a row.
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He's playing Southampton. I'm playing against Derek, so
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I'm playing against Holland in my fantasy matchup.
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I expect him to have at least a brace.
20:02
I mean, yeah, you put money, you definitely put money on him to
20:04
score for sure. Like, it's definitely.
20:07
Yeah, I get it is what it is. I it's not even worth really
20:09
disgusting. Like you, you know, there's
20:10
going to be these dud games from hauling every now and again
20:12
because of the position. Yeah.
20:14
I think for me, it's just that City.
20:16
I think the more concerning thing for City is that they just
20:19
keep letting goals in. Like this is like, I think
20:22
they've only had one. Yeah.
20:24
They've only kept one clean sheet this whole season so far.
20:26
So to me, I think it's just something to do with their
20:28
possession and how they set up. They look so good when they're
20:30
on attack, but if they lose the ball, it's these fast breaks
20:33
that are just killing them. Yeah, so, but yeah, let's move
20:36
on. Let's talk, let's talk through
20:37
some of the key moments in the game.
20:41
We talked about Garnacho, 30 points finally return.
20:44
Is there anything else really to talk about there?
20:47
I mean Rashford look good too. They both look good.
20:50
I thought that ball, I mean that pass from Rashford was like
20:53
vintage, perfect for the ball, absolute.
20:56
Vintage like in Is it? We just want consistency from
20:59
those top three, from those kids and Rashford's got to be the
21:01
catalyst. Like a Nacho can be involved,
21:03
but Russia really has to be that catalyst and know when a
21:06
possible. Yeah, he's he's paid like he's
21:08
the leader of that team, so he needs to kind of show up that
21:11
game. Yep, Rizzerto.
21:14
FedEx man. Just something else, since we
21:18
talked about Manchester United, I just went on to ESPNFC website
21:22
homepage to check something. The home page says Transfer
21:25
shock Xerxi already wants out of Manchester United.
21:28
No way. That I that's just the headline
21:31
I'm not having that's. Crazy.
21:33
I mean, we're not even talking. He's not even on people's radar
21:35
anymore. No, just 'cause it's just, I
21:37
mean, it's not like, I mean, it's just underwhelming.
21:39
He was just kinda has underwhelmed.
21:41
And now that Hoyland's back playing, I don't I don't really
21:43
see him. I don't really see where his
21:46
role is. It seems like he's another
21:47
player that doesn't quite have like a perfect position.
21:49
Is he A10? Is he a nine?
21:52
He's in that weird little space. Yeah, you.
21:54
Know all. Right, moving on Sond, the
21:58
actual starting lineups managed to get 23 1/2 points solid game
22:03
look good. It looked good at times.
22:05
Sometimes he he doesn't look the same as he used to.
22:08
I'm not going to lie to you my those runs down the wing cutting
22:12
up unless he's one-on-one like but you could take him
22:16
one-on-one all day. I'm happy.
22:17
You'd think he's going to score 99% of the time.
22:21
I thought the biggest take away from that game was how Madison
22:23
was subbed out at halftime and they went on to score three
22:26
goals in the second-half. Yeah, well, fucking do you see
22:29
Ange? And was fucking pissed he was.
22:32
All right, so you're going in. Don't come into the changing
22:34
room. Just fucking.
22:35
Why? Why was Madison stuffed off?
22:37
Is it something he did or? I think Kulacevsky just looked
22:40
more effective, like Madison hasn't looked the same since he
22:44
got injured last year. I was just going to say, it's
22:47
starting to feel like this is more is becoming more of
22:49
Kulacevski's team than it is Madison's team.
22:51
Like last year, at the beginning of the last year it was, it felt
22:53
like it was Madison's team and he was pulling all the strings.
22:56
Kulacevsky now is in that role and Madison is playing a little
23:00
bit deeper than he has in the past.
23:01
And maybe it's just he's just not quite playing that role in
23:04
the way that Ange wants. And that clearly is going to
23:07
affect his guard, his returns. It's it's.
23:10
Really. That'll be really upsetting for
23:11
fantasy owners of Madison because he's not even taking all
23:14
the free kicks all the corners either.
23:16
He has from one side, but he did have 20 points.
23:18
With all all that said, Madison had 20 points.
23:20
And a half, 20 points and 1/2. Yeah, which is fucking really
23:23
good. Yeah.
23:24
So fantasy wise he's going to be fine.
23:27
Maybe, but I mean. The fear would be if he's not
23:30
starting, if he's not a guaranteed starter, right?
23:32
If like there's certain games are there, I'd rather have SAR
23:34
and Basuma and have Kulasevski be in the tent or something, You
23:37
know? I.
23:37
Think the walkway of SAR defensively would be banned in
23:41
the Madison but attacking wise I think Madison.
23:44
Actually, yeah, absolutely. Again, I don't know.
23:49
Oh yeah, moving on to Georgina Ruder from Brighton.
23:52
He's had three phenomenal games and a back-to-back to back
23:55
scoring 1619.25 and 14.25. Man, this guy.
24:01
Did you watch the Brian game? Yeah, he's good.
24:03
Hustle. I think he was on waivers last
24:05
week. He was, Yeah.
24:07
He looks fucking good man. Like No Fear.
24:11
Yeah, he's one of those that I, you know, I, I keep holding on
24:13
the Pedro Netto, hopefully hoping that he's going to come
24:15
in and play, but I really should have dropped him about two weeks
24:17
ago for Pedro Netto. Yeah, it dropped Pedro Netto for
24:20
him, but he's definitely one of those guys.
24:22
If he's still around, you need to swoop him up.
24:24
He just, he just went up over 50% owned in leagues or else he
24:27
would have done waivers again. He's the real deal.
24:30
Grab that full. Yeah, another another guy who's
24:33
been playing really well last few weeks is Keene from Everton,
24:36
a defender. They kept a clean sheet this
24:38
week was went up to oh, he scored a goal.
24:40
He's had a few really solid games now 7% owned.
24:45
It's just ever and. Doesn't feel great.
24:49
Doesn't feel great picking him up, but if you need a defender I
24:51
think it might be a good idea. I also, sorry, I also think that
24:54
he's Brathwaite didn't play this game, but it went if he he has
24:58
played, he has played since his injury.
25:00
He just didn't play this game. If he's getting closer to full
25:02
health, that's huge. Like I think like that defence
25:06
gets a lot better with Brathwaite and Keene.
25:08
So if you can, Brathwaite's probably in taken in a lot of
25:10
leagues, but Keene isn't. So that might be a sneaky little
25:13
way to get some. Points.
25:16
You don't think Keene gets dropped?
25:18
I think he's who's the other defender in that.
25:20
Talkowski. Oh, you're probably right.
25:23
You're totally right. And I know we say it's Everton
25:26
defenders, but even when we look at last year, they had four
25:29
defenders, their main 4 average over eight points per game.
25:32
And this is when one goal was -2 points.
25:34
I mean, last year they're the dead, one of the better defenses
25:36
in the league. That's how they stayed up.
25:37
They just could not, they could not score to save their life.
25:40
And this year it's a little bit different.
25:42
But it's a little bit of the same.
25:45
A little bit different, little bit the same, but I think I
25:46
written defenders in the same way that forest defenders.
25:49
I think they're just, you got to see where the clean sheets are
25:52
and like, that's a lot of points, you know?
25:55
You know, honestly, just look at you talk about the first look at
25:57
Young, the last four games and they weren't all clean sheet
26:00
points. Man, I have such a hard time.
26:03
I would have such a hard time drafting him, but you look at
26:05
these points and you can't argue with him, huh?
26:07
He what, 16 1/2? Fourteen 2.2511.7517.5 And he's
26:12
only 16% owned because no one wants to pick up a 38 year old?
26:15
Nope, you know. You can get red card at any
26:18
second. Yeah, fuck me.
26:22
Yeah, but they're risky. I feel like that even though
26:24
they they they couple them out of several good games, they're
26:27
still risky to me. But if you if you need points
26:31
and you need points now and you need some somewhat of a sure
26:34
thing with consistency, then I think Keen and Young will be the
26:38
ones to go for. It'll be interesting to see
26:40
against Fulham because Fulham's, what we call them the Robin Hood
26:42
team. Yeah, so from the rich game to
26:44
the poor, and that'll be that'll be a very interesting they've
26:48
looked good matchup. All right, next Arsenal.
26:51
I was the one that was kind of questioning Sakas availability
26:54
and and then he ended up not playing.
26:56
No, yeah, you're right. I thought, I thought he was just
26:58
play acting. So it's that's rare.
27:01
It's rare for soccer not to play.
27:03
But I mean, the injury was a really bundling up for them.
27:05
But soccer's out, Otigo's out. Timber didn't play Timber.
27:08
'S out to. Leave a suspension and they have
27:11
a really tough few games coming up.
27:14
Think Liverpool's next right. Liverpool's next, yeah, and
27:21
that's going to only affect the rest of the team.
27:23
Like someone there's going to be a couple players that are still
27:26
going to get points, but you gotta feel like that might
27:28
affect some of the other players in the team my creativity wise.
27:32
Hey, Marino got this first start, scored, scored.
27:35
I think about nine points, just under 10.
27:38
Nice. Sterling didn't get a chance.
27:41
Not a single chance. How many points did he have?
27:43
Like he got subbed up as soon as celebrity got.
27:45
Fucking set up. Oh, I didn't have a chance.
27:47
Yeah, I. Didn't have a fucking chance.
27:50
So yeah, it's a bummer. That's disappointing.
27:51
I mean, we can talk about that saliva thing, but that was a red
27:55
to me. No, I still think Celiba was a
27:57
red, but I also think what's his name from Chelsea was a.
28:01
No, that scene and then I already talked about this ad
28:03
nauseam in our group chat, but the toast enchants in my
28:07
opinion, Koal was Caldwell, well was coming back and so there was
28:11
a second guy there. So, so, so that's that's the
28:13
difference. It's last man.
28:14
Is it last man? Is it really that is the rule?
28:17
Is it last man? The rule is last man if there's
28:19
no one else can be engaged in the player.
28:21
No, the the rule is if you're the last man, you take out the
28:24
guy running after the ball and you're ahead of him.
28:27
That's one that's a record. You're stopping a goal scoring
28:31
opportunity. I don't care if you got frigging
28:34
it was the the 100m runner of Jamaican guy.
28:38
Hussein Bolt. It don't matter if Usain bolts
28:41
at the halfway line already fucking 20 feet away, you're
28:43
still going to give that guy a red card.
28:45
It it does matter though, and that's why that like it like I
28:47
that the rule isn't as clear cut as last man.
28:50
It's it's a foul, it's a red card.
28:52
It's like if there's if there's someone else that is involved in
28:54
in there, then it isn't a red. And that's why that wasn't a
28:56
red. It was.
28:56
It does matter. He's behind, way behind.
28:58
You're oversimplifying a rule. I'm not oversimplifying rule,
29:02
I'm I'm mentioning a rule. OK, well, we agree to disagree
29:05
there. As always.
29:08
Kudos red card. So he scored a goal.
29:10
So it's kind of funny because what Sergey was like, well, so
29:14
Sergey ends up made this trade and then they were just like
29:16
Sergey contacts. She's like, I'm going to wake up
29:18
to a kudos goal this morning. And then sure enough, he woke up
29:21
to a kudos goal, but also woke up to a kudos red.
29:26
Dude he couldn't go at least 4 red cards in that I mean.
29:28
Is there any chance he gets suspended for longer?
29:31
I don't know it's a well not the FA looks into it, but he he
29:33
definitely kicked out a Vanderman while he was on the
29:36
floor. I mean, that could have been a
29:37
red itself and then hit two different guys in the faces
29:40
after that. Then he pushed.
29:41
Vanderman in the face and he pushed SAR in the face.
29:43
Yeah, that's bad. The crazy thing was a referee
29:46
only gave a yellow. It took BA offer and say hey, I
29:49
think you missed a couple of things there.
29:51
Do they they really? I didn't.
29:53
I didn't watch it in a it wasn't a straight red.
29:55
It was you had to go look at VAR and have a look at.
29:58
But even with the red, he did score more points than Harvey
30:02
Barnes and Maduiki combined. Yeah.
30:04
Yeah. No, he did, but he scored a
30:06
goal. So the red is what only -4 -, 5
30:09
seven minus who is it really? So I just took away the goal,
30:12
essentially, yeah. Question, is he a trade target
30:16
now for anyone? You think there's anyone that's
30:19
like if anyone's struggling and they like can't really afford to
30:22
have kudos on their bench and you can kind of give him a few
30:24
players in exchange. If I had him, If I had him,
30:28
maybe. If you had him.
30:30
You should try to trade for him man.
30:32
No, I'm good, I might try and trade for him.
30:35
I'm sorry, can we remember when I mentioned the Enzo Jinx kudos
30:39
was putting up shit numbers? The second you trade him away he
30:41
has 2. Two games, two goals.
30:43
And a red card. So he's going to be suspended
30:45
for three games straight, right? So what's That's a weird type of
30:50
jinx that ends up with some. Players, yeah, I don't know
30:52
what. You a weird type of jinx.
30:54
The stancho benzo is still on him.
30:55
Give him a couple of more leads. All.
31:00
Right. Welbeck scored another goal, so
31:03
we talked about that. I know that on the last pawn I
31:05
didn't really want to trade for Welbeck because I felt like he's
31:07
too goal dependent. But if he keeps scoring goals,
31:09
hey like Holland's goal dependent but.
31:12
It works. I think the more important thing
31:15
is he looked like a bad back injury, and it was kind of a
31:17
weird thing when he kind of went down, like, no non contacts.
31:21
Yeah, yeah, it's a little scary. So your note here is Evans.
31:26
Evan Ferguson likely replaces him.
31:28
Well, he's been starting with him, but is he the one to
31:30
replace him point wise? And what about we forget about
31:32
Jon Pedro too. He should be coming back.
31:34
Yeah, but you got Rotta Matoma has been was on the bench as you
31:39
know and see so was another one. So you never know, one of those
31:45
guys can go off. Yeah, there's some interesting
31:48
Brighton players out there. Jata goes off injured, Nunez
31:54
finally gets to come in and play.
31:55
I thought Nunez actually looked fairly good when he came in.
31:57
He was really aggressive. He actually won a lot of balls,
32:01
like in the midfield, he's doing a lot of things.
32:02
But Jata, this was the thing with Jata, right, is that he
32:06
always gets injured. Yep.
32:08
So we knew this was coming. He's never really been able to
32:10
string it together for a long enough period of time.
32:12
That's why he's always been such a good player off the bench,
32:14
more so, you know. Yeah, so he's less time on the
32:16
field, less time Trance is getting out.
32:18
But yeah, he went off at half time I think.
32:21
So like, is that the door opening for Nunez to really put
32:25
his foot forward? Like he was working hard, like
32:27
you said he was. He was working hard in that
32:28
game. I think it is, and I think if he
32:32
strings a couple goals together, it's going to be really hard for
32:34
John Ted to get that position back.
32:35
Yeah. So I don't, I don't, I don't see
32:38
a lot of world where John Ted just says like I'm healthy and
32:41
like starts next week. I feel like the way he came off,
32:43
I don't think that's like a bounce back injury next week.
32:47
Jack Post started too, didn't he?
32:49
Start on the left. Yeah, I think to me that was
32:51
maybe just a rotation thing. Maybe because because Diaz was
32:55
on the bench instead of bringing on Diaz he did bring on Nuna.
32:58
So you might be right. It might be a rotation being.
33:00
I mean, not later on and they do have Champions League matches
33:03
this week. Yeah, I was just going to say I
33:04
think they're saving it for that.
33:05
I mean, I mean, it's a good thing for Liverpool.
33:07
They have a lot of really good attacking players.
33:09
So not to mention, like, yes, I can't even get into these games,
33:13
but we kind of expected that. Yeah.
33:17
Johnstone scored a last minute winner.
33:20
He is owned in 49% of leagues. Initial guy.
33:24
That's my guy. I think I got to pick him back
33:25
up again. Oh.
33:26
My God. And then then drop him.
33:28
Then pick him back up, Then drop him.
33:29
That's my, that's what I love to do with John Stones.
33:31
It's. A great relationship you have.
33:33
I actually, I'm trying to really knock on wood, trying to stay
33:37
away from city defenders this year.
33:39
OK, admit my, admit my faults. OK.
33:44
But I think he's AI, think he's a pretty viable player.
33:47
OK, yeah, keep talking. Yeah, yeah.
33:50
Yeah. You feel that, you feel there
33:51
was anything wrong with that goal.
33:53
Anything wrong with that goal? Yeah, I don't know the exact
33:57
rules, but it was weird that Bernard Silva could push on the
34:00
goalie so much before I thought he got.
34:02
I think Bernard Silva did a really good job of getting out
34:04
of the way by the time the header came.
34:06
It was just anything before that which was the problem.
34:08
It's funny, when they first looked at it they were looking
34:10
for offsides, so you can't be offside for a fucking goal kick.
34:13
I mean, corner kick, yeah, that was interesting.
34:17
But yeah, I agree. The Ponano Silver.
34:19
Just push. What are you talking about?
34:20
You, you. They were looking at it offsides
34:22
because he was sending it from the keeper.
34:24
Yeah, but the Bulls from the freak from a from a corner, you
34:28
can't be. He heads it and he's.
34:31
That's yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just offsides.
34:32
They're looking offsides. They're there initially looking
34:35
off. They looked offsides from the
34:37
kick, but then they're like, oh wait, you can't be offsides from
34:39
the kick, no. They they didn't look at
34:40
offsides from the the the quarter kick, they looked
34:44
offsides after he hit at the ball because he was sitting in
34:46
outside position in front of the goalkeeper.
34:48
They did look at, yeah, they did.
34:49
You're right, They did look at that.
34:50
But I was saying that people were wondering if he was because
34:53
he was technically offsides, but you can't be offsides from 1/4
34:56
but he was technically offsides. Off the header.
34:58
Off off the kick, off the kick from the corner like he was the
35:02
closest man back, like there's no one behind him.
35:05
This conversation is stupid. Just disregard it.
35:07
Yeah. And so, yeah, let's move on.
35:10
It doesn't matter. I mean, he I thought I thought
35:12
it was fine. I thought the whole thing was
35:13
fine. I thought it was a little I'd
35:15
like, I don't know what the rules are about like pushing
35:16
someone before like that, because you could argue that he
35:18
made it so that Jean Jose saw couldn't really get set.
35:21
But like I I think that's pretty soft.
35:22
I think unless you're a Wolves fan, you're not really going to
35:25
make try and make that argument. I was just curious.
35:29
All right, and then today's game, Nottingham Forest and
35:34
Crystal Palace. Guess who scored again?
35:37
Would baby? Yeah, and what's what's his name
35:41
was right from? Chris Ryan.
35:44
Chris. Ryan.
35:45
Ryan. Yeah, Ryan is right.
35:47
It's Chris Wood. What is what has been a better
35:50
sensation. Fifth goal in eight games.
35:54
That's a really good performances.
35:55
This is a great one too. Outside the box hitting that.
35:57
And they took him off. Goalie probably should have
35:59
saved it though, yeah. You can say that, but he didn't.
36:04
He didn't, Yeah. It took a mob.
36:06
I think that was fine. I mean, you get fresh legs in
36:07
there. That's that was the right thing
36:08
to do in my opinion. But it cost someone in our
36:12
league their matchup. They're down by like a point and
36:14
Woods get subbed off and they had Woods.
36:16
I love that they always blame you, Keith.
36:18
Do something because that's what everyone in the league just ask
36:21
me. Do something, Commissioner, do
36:23
something. I started.
36:25
That I love it. So annoying that was that was
36:33
kind of the games. Was there anything else that
36:34
really stood out to you guys game wise from us from this
36:36
coming week? Well, no, I'm worried about
36:38
Newcastle. Yeah, people still think they're
36:41
like, I think they're just going to be a like a top six team
36:45
maybe. I don't think I think there's no
36:47
chance for them making top 4. They didn't get backed enough.
36:50
They got all these players kind of like it's like coming back
36:52
from injury, Will Murphy's coming back from injury, getting
36:55
acclimated, but it just doesn't look like it's cooking less.
36:59
It's not the same as when they had that's the center back
37:01
pairing or Stan Botman and the rest of them.
37:04
It just doesn't look the same team.
37:06
I don't think they're a better team than they were last year.
37:10
You know what I mean? They're not.
37:11
I don't think they added a lot. They just brought back their
37:13
injured players. Joel Linton true peers out the
37:16
same. Obviously they got the
37:17
goalkeeper back Pole, but last year Anthony Gordon was playing
37:21
playing amazing. His numbers haven't been the
37:23
same as well. Obviously with it's like that, I
37:25
mean Target in the center and Bruno Jimarez has not been that
37:30
good at this year as well. Have we had a?
37:32
Yeah and I don't I even thinking about top 6, I don't think
37:36
they'll be top 6. Really.
37:39
Yeah, I I think it's going to be they're going to be fighting for
37:41
top 6. I think it's.
37:43
Going to. Be tight, look at the teams
37:44
ahead of them, Liverpool, City, Arsenal, Villa, Brighton,
37:47
Chelsea, Tottenham and Forest. So they're clearly they're the
37:51
only way you can make a case they're better I guess is
37:52
Forest, but right below them is United and Fulham as well.
37:56
So it's not like there's a gap. You have to think too, like last
37:59
year it was like the United teams and the Chelsea's were bad
38:05
last year. So it's like that kind of open
38:07
the door for Newcastle to do what they did, you know, to
38:11
perform two years ago. Like same, same thing.
38:13
Like the last two years, there's been a lot of teams that are
38:15
traditionally good in the Premier League that have been
38:17
bad. So it's created a lot of space
38:19
for these other teams, you know, So sending a note.
38:23
All right, moving into waivers, keeping it short and sweet this
38:27
week. I think my number one waiver
38:28
pick up this week is Jacob Ramsey has to Villa.
38:32
So not so much like so yeah, he he came on, he started, he's
38:36
finally healthy. He had got an assist.
38:39
Villa's a good team. I think the biggest thing though
38:41
is that how scarce attacking midfielders that are available
38:44
are. So I think from that standpoint
38:47
he is like, he's definitely interesting, you know, and he's
38:51
not someone he's not an in that hops up right away.
38:53
So that's a really good one. The other one I have is Justin
38:56
Clybert, another mid under 35% of leagues really.
39:00
So he came on, he got subbed in in this game and he had a really
39:04
strong performance for Bournemouth.
39:06
He was involved in everything good they did after he got
39:08
subbed on. I think he can be a very
39:11
interesting pick up and I think his upside is up there with
39:14
Ramses, yeah. He's he's got a, he's got some
39:17
big games in him. Yeah, I think just for him, I
39:20
think it's just a matter of is he going to be starting every
39:23
week? He he took the penalty kick
39:25
right. Yes, really interesting.
39:28
So that's value there too if he's going to be their primary
39:31
penalty taker. I'm not sure if someone came up
39:33
came off and be that's why he took it, but if that's something
39:35
to keep an eye out as well, that's just bonus goals you get
39:38
if he's in the game. No, yeah.
39:39
No, honestly, it's really interesting for a few reasons. 1
39:43
is that Evan Nielsen drew the penalty.
39:45
But remember, Evan Nielsen missed one a few weeks ago.
39:48
So he probably didn't want to take it for that reason because
39:51
he'd already missed a really high profile penalty.
39:53
He missed, you know, and then the the, the player that
39:55
surprised me, that didn't take it was Semenya, because you'd
39:57
think that he's kind of like the guy there right now, just the
40:00
way that team is. But the fact that Clibert
40:02
stepped up and took it is, is to me a really big green flag for
40:05
Clibert. He's kind of the guy.
40:07
All right. The other waiver I have is.
40:11
Ola Ena from Nottingham Forest and that's kind of more just in
40:15
general, like sending to all your Nottingham Forest
40:17
defenders, you know, the second best defensive record in the
40:22
Premier League behind Liverpool, better than Arsenal, better than
40:27
City, which City sucks. But you know, so I just feel
40:30
like, I mean, you got to take you got to strike while the
40:32
kettle's hot with these guys. And you know, I, I picked up
40:36
what's his name, like Malenkovich last week and he's
40:39
been, he's been great. He's owned in most leagues
40:41
already, but Olena's still still only owned in 46% of the league.
40:47
So there's still a lot of leagues where he's available.
40:49
So I think he's he should be swooped up everywhere.
40:53
You know, I had Maria in there. He's only roasted in 42% of the
40:56
league. Yeah, I think that's, yeah,
40:57
exactly. I think any sort of forest
40:59
offender is worth worth picking up.
41:01
I think what Aina gives you is that he offers you a little bit
41:04
more of a potential attacking threats.
41:07
So there's something, you know, the upsides there.
41:08
All right, so we look into some of next week's matches.
41:12
Do we want to recap last week's or you guys are?
41:15
Want to skip that made so bad besides Keith?
41:18
What? What?
41:19
OK, guys, what? What do you mean by what Tika?
41:22
You got Man C but you barely got it bro.
41:24
But I got it right. But you barely go.
41:28
It's also like, oh, you got, man.
41:29
City. You got Man City.
41:31
Yeah, you got. Oh my God, you picked.
41:33
I'm, I'm sorry, there's they're easy matchups laying on it, you
41:36
know, left and right. Then let me have the 1st pick
41:39
this week and I'll choose Man C again.
41:42
Southampton, go for it, you're going.
41:43
To win, you know what you need to win, Enzo, Take Man City.
41:46
Let's just say this, let's not pick Man C as the first one
41:49
because that's fucking given. So we can do our five pick
41:52
parlay. So can we talk?
41:54
Can we talk about how? Man see is it give it again when
41:56
you know we. Do we need to be reducing the
41:58
amount of games that we're doing this with, not not increasing
42:01
it? We're we're, we haven't won
42:02
since like Week 2. And it was a glorious win when
42:06
we what's? A glorious win that we're still
42:08
riding. We are still riding.
42:10
But let's let's also mention the fact that Sergey wanted to pick
42:13
Everton. V vetoed it.
42:15
He picked Arsenal and Everton won an Arsenal lost.
42:18
Yeah. Yeah.
42:19
Not that it would have mattered because Enzo, you know.
42:22
Well, it was close. It was 21 again me and I didn't
42:25
look. Good.
42:27
All right. Who?
42:28
Who wants to go first? Well, should we talk about, are
42:30
there any interesting matchups that we want to talk about from
42:32
like a fantasy standpoint first, or we just say fuck it, we go
42:34
straight into the bat? Ah, let's do some matchups.
42:37
Just looking at this, I'm really excited about the.
42:40
I think like there's a few teams here that are kind of
42:43
interesting. I think there's some Bretford
42:46
defenders that are still on waivers that could be good to
42:48
pick up first. Ipswich, I think, I honestly
42:52
think that Manchester City, this is the game if you want to start
42:54
their defensive defenders in Anderson, we have Southampton.
42:59
Not in Forest, Leicester. That should be a good game
43:01
fantasy wise. I think they're both going to go
43:03
at it. Leicester K what had that last
43:05
minute winner against Southampton, right?
43:09
You won 32, I think, and you just said not in Forest as the
43:12
second best, you know, Would you go for the defense or would you
43:16
go for the offense? I'm I'm sorry, my narrating
43:19
forest defenders happily in this game.
43:21
I agree. Not not saying like I, I, you
43:23
know, I just think that that's a great spot.
43:25
You know. I think the exciting matchups
43:27
for this week for me would be Everton, Fulham and Brighton
43:30
versus Wolves. I think Brighton Wolves could be
43:33
a good one. Why do you think that just
43:35
because the wolves are so counter attacking and Brighton
43:37
is so kind of possession? Yeah, and I think both of them
43:41
are like kind of high octane. At least Wolves try to play high
43:43
pace and they push up and they try to attack.
43:45
So I think that has making a few, a few good goals.
43:49
Do you know what's the making of a total chop game?
43:51
Is this Crystal Palace Tottenham game I.
43:52
Was just going to say the same thing.
43:54
I haven't won a game yet and they're playing Tottenham and
43:57
they're playing fucking Tottenham and they're playing at
44:00
home. It might be my pick.
44:03
All right. Anything else, any other
44:05
interest? I think the, I think the West
44:07
Ham game for United, I mean, is there any fear with starting
44:10
United players or United defenders?
44:12
I'm always fearful starting my United players.
44:15
So fearful he gets cut, gets kicked out.
44:17
Can't even talk about them. So fearful, he runs.
44:20
He runs off the stage. Yeah.
44:21
Me, yeah. Hey look, you forget about the
44:24
mute by yourself. I'm always fearful playing my.
44:26
You're always fearful. You're always fearful of United
44:29
players. I mean, what's West Ham's deal
44:31
though? I'm dumb like Antonio, just like
44:35
I think you said it best like a couple weeks ago.
44:37
They always buy a player to try to replace Antonio.
44:40
Then they they keep playing Antonio.
44:42
Yeah, I think his work rate is great, but Fancy was right.
44:45
He's not doing anything Fancy was.
44:47
He had one incredible game when he came in, what, last week?
44:51
Yeah, yeah. But then this week I'm
44:53
underwhelmed. And Bowen hasn't been the same
44:55
fucking player either. Yeah, like Picetta is
44:58
disappointing, but we kind of, we knew he was going to be.
45:00
Yeah, we knew he was going to be disappointing, but Bowen
45:02
shouldn't be. Well, actually, Bowen's got 106
45:05
fancy total points. No, Bowen's been solid.
45:08
He's had, yeah, he's had a 31 point games gone 2020.
45:10
He's solid. He's he's like, he's doing well
45:12
in spite of West Ham's kind of sump.
45:14
Yeah. I I, I think without Muhammad
45:19
Crudis, that team is just. It's hard pressed to.
45:22
Oh, that's right, they don't have crudis.
45:23
Yeah, that we have three games. And then this big, the big one
45:26
is Arsenal, Liverpool, that's gonna be.
45:28
Fun. I'll go Liverpool or not.
45:30
I think so too, even at the Emirates.
45:33
Even at the Emirates and Arsenal, Arsenal is still
45:36
favourites in that game all. Right.
45:38
And so, all right, and so it's your pick time to make time to
45:43
push your money where your mouth is.
45:47
You know what, I'm going to go to Liverpool against Arsenal.
45:50
Liverpool win Liverpool. Win all right.
45:54
I hate you is. That going to be yours.
45:56
It's not, but you know, we talked about getting a start off
46:00
to like a good. You can still you can still
46:02
choose the easy one if you like. You know what, that's good.
46:04
That's Saturday, so we have the option to.
46:07
Yeah, true. All right.
46:08
Liverpool versus Arsenal, I'm in support of that one.
46:11
Is it? Wait so it's at Emirates?
46:13
So oh, wait. Plus. 210 I'm I'm getting plus
46:16
220 on mine, but yeah. OK, perfect.
46:19
Even better. Yeah, it's at the Americans.
46:21
I don't know if it makes a difference for you or not all.
46:23
Of those injuries you don't. And that suspension?
46:27
No Saliba all. Right.
46:30
So I'm going to. So I'm thinking Brighton over
46:35
Wolves, that's -185 I'm also thinking Branford over Ipswich.
46:39
That's also -140 those are two good ones that I see.
46:43
But I kind of want to go Tottenham versus Palace, oh
46:48
-120. That on Tottenham.
46:52
Yeah. Even though me and Enzo, we're
46:53
both just saying this feels like such a chop game.
46:56
Yeah. All right, so you, you like.
46:59
Yeah, we're saying it the other way around.
47:00
We're saying that we're worried that House will get something
47:02
out of this game. I understand well you guys.
47:04
Were saying, yeah, you're just saying fuck you.
47:07
All right, so you want to is that your bet?
47:10
Tottenham last chance. Tottenham, yeah, Tottenham win.
47:15
OK. I mean, do I need to pick
47:18
something easy now? Because you guys both pick
47:20
things that I don't. I don't think it might just pick
47:22
on the. I say just pick the team that
47:23
you think is going to do it. Look at that, Villa.
47:27
Maybe not. I guess I'll go Villa.
47:30
Damn the a draw and man see Southampton is plus 850A draw,
47:36
but Southampton to win is plus 1400 all right so.
47:39
Right now we have Tottenham, Liverpool, City, Villa.
47:42
You went Villa, I'm going to go Villa.
47:45
Is it at Villa Park or is it? It's at Villa.
47:47
It's at Villa. All right, This has been episode
47:49
63 of Draft Offsides. My name is Keith, I'm with Tico
47:52
Enzo and we will see you next week.
47:54
Follow us on all the socials. All the things did.
48:07
You guys see who played today? Who played today?
48:12
Neymar is back. I I.
48:14
Keep saying that like. Like like it doesn't like.
48:17
You guys don't care. No, he's done.
48:20
He's done. He's might as well.
48:21
He might as well be like just at the beach in Aruba right now.
48:24
It's like how I don't pay attention to fucking Messi's
48:26
games with Into Miami because it's.
48:28
Done. Yeah, but Messi's like 37, this
48:30
guy's 32, and he wants to make the World Cup roster.
48:33
You think he's going to make the World Cup roster?
48:35
I hope he makes the World Cup roster.
48:37
You hope he does. I mean, considering how bad
48:39
Brazil liked in the COPPA, actually he has a good chance of
48:41
being, well, I make a gift from Jeff.
48:43
Yeah, he would definitely make a difference, I think.
48:46
Because of his style of playing, the how technically gifted he
48:50
is, I think at any age he could not make anyone the best
48:53
defender in the world. So.
48:55
Do you really think that he's like, I did?
48:58
I mean, what do you, what's your take on the Saudi league in
49:00
general? Like how can he even sit here
49:02
and be like, it's it matters. But it it doesn't matter.
49:06
It really does not matter. But for him specifically, it's
49:10
not that no European club wanted him, Barcelona wanted him, Chavi
49:13
said. No, I don't want him.
49:14
No one could afford his wages. So until his contract is
49:17
finished ends in all, he'll always just make sure two years
49:22
he he stuck there. I think he'll end up going to
49:24
MLS or somewhere else, but maybe even Brazil.
49:27
But it's just he put himself in that situation.
49:32
I don't. That's what if you tell me like
49:34
you see what Messi did, I'm like, why would I care?
49:36
Like I saw the guy playing this prime in the much superior
49:39
league. Why would I care what he does in
49:40
MLS safety with Ronaldo? But why do you?
49:43
Would you care what? But wait, why would you care
49:44
what? Neymar.
49:45
Does that. It's just a Neymar is a player
49:47
that I have more of a connection with and I do like comeback
49:50
stories. Whereas Neymar, I feel like a
49:51
messy story is pretty much done. He's won everything, he's
49:54
accomplished everything. Put him down in the GOAT,
49:56
whereas Neymar, he, he could come back from this, maybe win
50:00
the World Cup or do something significant with his career.
50:03
There's like the redemption part of it.
50:05
I see. OK.
50:05
I think it's just. Selfish.
50:06
He just likes cousin neighbor. He no, he got a if Neymar wins a
50:11
World Cup with Brazil, then all of a sudden that his his whole
50:14
career and story has puts on has a very different feel to it.
50:17
If it ends, do you? Think that Brazil could win a
50:19
World Cup? No, at this, at this time, I
50:23
don't think they have the squad or no.
50:24
I don't think they have. Can you be honest with me, Tico?
50:27
This in my opinion, I'm not saying they're not a good,
50:30
they're good, they're not good players, but this in my
50:33
lifetime, finance is one of the worst Brazil teams I've ever
50:35
seen. So I can give you 2 that are
50:37
worse than them. Go on the 2006 one led by Kaka
50:43
and Robinia when Dunga was the manager.
50:47
That's the worst. Wait, wait.
50:49
Can I look at that? Can I look at that?
50:50
Can you go on to the next one? Go on.
50:52
You know what? But I I also will say it's a
50:53
lot. It's like the.
50:54
I'm sorry, that's 2010. I'm sorry, 2. 1010 We always
50:57
look at history through roast tinted glasses.
50:59
Like it's easier that than being like Kaka rabinia, blah blah
51:02
blah. But I think, you know, it's
51:03
hard. It's hard to think about them
51:05
and not think of them as better than SO.
51:07
Kaka obviously at his peak played as well as anyone else
51:12
ever, but at that time it was after his injuries where his
51:14
speed, it was not the same. Robino, I was a player, I was
51:17
never high on that. Then I don't.
51:20
I also don't like the 2006 because history is going to look
51:23
at the names, Ronaldo, Adriano, Ronaldinho, Gaga, they're going
51:27
to look at those names. But as a product on the field,
51:29
that team did not make sense. The 2010 team I'm looking at a
51:33
bro. 6:00 and 10:00 No, the one I the first one I said is 2010.
51:40
There's some players are under raid on that in the 2010 team
51:43
Hulk I think. Some fucking battles.
51:46
Apto. Fucking great fucking striker.
51:49
Robinho. Robinho at the time.
51:53
At the time, Robinho, Ronaldinho.
51:56
You got Alano in there. Who's the backup?
51:59
Cleverson, dude, He's a good Kaka.
52:02
Julio Baptisto when he played for Arsenal.
52:04
Like RoboCop? OK, Enzo, you I you are not
52:07
listening to what Keith and I were talking about.
52:09
Gaga amazing player but that's after his injuries where he lost
52:13
the speed and he was not the same player.
52:14
You mentioned one player, but they got Lucio and Juan in
52:17
defense. Adria, they had the.
52:20
OK, who, who would you rather have Lucio and Juan or would you
52:22
like to have Medi Tao and Marquinos?
52:26
There we go. So I we're comparing these two
52:28
teams like Luis Fabiano was their striker.
52:30
Come on, man. Luis Fabiano was the striker.
52:32
Michel Bos was their left back. I still think, I still think
52:37
it's one of the worst. Brazil too, because it doesn't
52:39
work. I think I, I think there's a
52:41
combo of the squad not being kind of as prestigious.
52:45
I think there's also a little bit of like the Brazilian, the
52:48
aura of Brazil is a little bit rubbed off like I've not, they
52:50
don't like everyone thinks they can take them.
52:52
But the same way like with Man United now where people like are
52:54
looking forward to playing them. And I also think that the the
52:57
coaching hasn't been great. I think like the like Tico, that
53:00
Duda team you're talking about, like people always say, it's
53:02
because the way that his style of play didn't match with the
53:04
players and that's why they were bad.
53:05
But it wasn't necessarily that the players were bad, right?
53:08
Like, like from a quality standpoint, it wasn't like that
53:11
was the worst quality team ever. I'm going to say I think his
53:13
best squad says you're the Spanish squad, the German squad
53:17
then and they're young. The Italian squad I feel can
53:21
could beat that Brazilian team and that's, I don't think that's
53:24
even a good Italian team. You're talking about current
53:28
Italian versus current Brazilian.
53:29
Yeah, but you have to look at what the current Brazilian is
53:32
there. They fired their manager.
53:33
They haven't really found a replacement for him.
53:36
They don't have a, they don't have a 10.
53:38
Pretty much right now. They're trying to figure that
53:39
shit out as well. And one of Brazil's strengths,
53:43
ever since we're all the same age we've been watching a
53:45
football, is the right back and left back.
53:47
We went from Roberto Carlos to Marcello.
53:50
That's like 20 plus years of domination.
53:52
We went from Michael and to Danielle's to right now.
53:55
Fucking Danilo is the right back before it was Kafu.
53:59
Let's just say England's going to win the next World Cup and we
54:01
got we got too cool so. Yeah, you're happy, right?
54:05
I think. I think you should be happy.
54:06
Yeah, I'm fine with like there's no one else who really get Eddie
54:10
Howe. I saw a lot of people, they were
54:11
not happy about it because I guess they wanted a English
54:14
manager. This is the.
54:15
Thing, but it's the thing in England, it doesn't make sense.
54:17
And don't get wrong, if if there was a good enough English
54:21
manager to take this team, I would have said yes.
54:27
There is not one. England doesn't create great
54:30
coaches. We haven't done for years.
54:32
You sent, didn't you send something to who was the last
54:34
English manager to win the Premier League?
54:37
I send it. Yeah, right.
54:38
You send that 1996. 92 or something?
54:41
Yeah, like in the 90s. Because we don't, we don't, we
54:44
don't give coaches opportunities.
54:46
Now look at the Argentinian team, like the other 23 coach
54:50
then became the national coach. Same with the Spanish, did the
54:52
same thing. Germany does the same thing
54:53
where they promote the under 23, under 21 coach to the main team
54:58
if they do well, there's none of that in England.
55:01
So I'm happy with too cool. Obviously I know we spoke about
55:04
Pep, but Pep wasn't going to leave until the end of the
55:06
season and you can't wait that long.
55:08
So who else you got? To look at, you also have to
55:11
think about like, like Pat is a really good coach, but he has so
55:14
many ideas and there's so much going on and it's probably
55:16
really hard for that to be translated for a national team
55:19
where you're only playing with these guys for a few days and
55:22
expecting to play games. I think Tukal's adaptability is
55:25
gonna is much more suited for international soccer.
55:28
And he's a great football of mine.
55:30
It was either him or or Yogan Klopp.
55:32
But then Yogan Klopp took on freaking Red Bull so.
55:34
That would have been cool. Yeah, Yogan Klopp would have
55:37
been cool, but you know, it is what is.
55:41
Like Ivan wrote like a song for Keith.
55:43
You wrote a song. 1st to the 3rd, 1st to the third.
55:47
Well, more of a chant, not a song.
55:51
First to third, well, I guess my response chant is still have the
55:55
most points, still have the most points.
55:58
So ultimately, like, yeah, right now, but I'm not, I'm not sad.
56:02
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not alarmed.
56:03
I'm feeling good about my position because yes, I got a
56:08
lost say but I was also the third high scoring team and I'm
56:11
so managed to lose so. Yeah, but today when I woke up,
56:15
I was looking at the matches and all of that stuff.
56:17
I realized you're going to go 1st to 3rd.
56:20
And it made me happy. And I was like the whole day.
56:23
I'm like, I can't wait until I bring that up.
56:25
And also I'm kind of disappointed because I feel like
56:28
Gollum is your second place avatar picture, not your third
56:31
place so. I think it's just first or not
56:35
first. I don't think I can do an
56:37
avatar. I don't think I can change my
56:38
avatar per. Her position.
56:40
Her. Position that would just get a
56:42
little out of control. You kind of say if it take like,
56:45
don't have a fucking avatar, you're lazy as fuck.
56:47
You just got a red. Shirt Yeah, it's so lame.
56:49
You're fucking lame. Oh, you're going to wait for me?
56:52
I was going to say if I win the Powerball, I got to apologize.
56:54
You're not going to see me ever again.
56:56
Really you, you wouldn't like give us money?
56:58
Oh, I would fucking disappear off the place.
57:00
The Planet Me phone number changed.
57:02
Instagram gone. Facebook gone.
57:04
You ain't going to fucking fire me, homeboy.
57:06
I'm gone. Where you going?
57:08
I can't tell you that I told you.
57:10
That I wouldn't be able to find you.
57:12
I probably couldn't afford to go there.
57:13
No, I'm not. I'm not saying no way where I'm
57:15
going. I've already got my plan gone.
57:17
Why won't be in America? I can tell you that I'll take
57:21
those American dollars elsewhere.
57:23
A mystery buyer has has bought Nottingham Forest.
57:28
And it's selling all the players to Tottenham.
57:31
Why would I do that? Because they have a better
57:33
defensive record than Tottenham does.
57:35
They doing a better. I was going to say that's one of
57:37
the players I want to talk about today.
57:39
Which one? Mario.
57:41
I like him. You know.
57:44
Did you guys, I know that I think you saw it, the picture
57:47
that I posted of me Sergey on Instagram.
57:50
Yeah, I liked it. So.
57:51
I missed it, what is it? It's still up there.
57:54
It's just him being frustrated next to me and I have like this
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big stupid smile on my face and. It wasn't.
58:01
It's how I picture you 2 always. But it was our cousin's kids
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birthday. I was turning 9.
58:06
He came late and I asked like everyone like hey, ask Sergey
58:08
what happened with fantasy because I was, I was also
58:12
playing game of fantasy NFL and he was in first place in that
58:15
and I overtook him in both of those.
58:18
So I've just been bugging him the whole time.
58:20
That's why he's just frustrated to be nice to me.
58:24
That's awesome. I do love that.
58:27
We're recorded, right? Yeah.
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I have something to ask for forgiveness for.
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Oh, Julia. I might message Derek the
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morning of one of the games and hold it that Matuma was playing
58:45
and that you put in Casamero what she did.
58:49
Did you really feel bad about it?
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I know I'm smiling right now, but yeah, I know that worked out
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for me. But my other confession is.
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But why? Why would you?
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Well, you're not even near the top.
59:03
Why are you trying to bring me down?
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I'm. Trying to bring all you down.
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So I also messaged Sergey and told him that one of his
59:09
defenders weren't playing and I couldn't change those defenders.
59:12
It didn't work, obviously, because he still lost what it's
59:16
trying to be. I've been a good league member.
59:20
I feel bad about. That I can't.
59:22
I feel bad about kids. So collusion that that sounds.
59:24
Like collusion, it's called, you know, just letting your homie
59:27
know that, hey, you got to play the ace line.
59:29
He's also on the other side of the world at the moment.
59:31
So, you know, just doing a Who is Derek?
59:33
No, he's not. I wasn't talking with him
59:35
yesterday. Oh whoops, I.
59:37
Literally had a look at that man for fucking two hours straight
59:40
as we play next year after he just won my ass in fantasy.
59:43
So just just to give some context to this, the player that
59:49
Enzo help was matching against Keith, and I just pulled the
59:53
numbers. If Enzo didn't reach out to
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Keith, Keith would have won his matchup if.
59:59
Enzo didn't reach out to Derek. Who's the?
1:00:00
Other guy, I'm sorry, Keith would have won his matchup by 7
1:00:03
points and would have been first place, whereas the other person
1:00:06
he reached out was the person I was playing, Sergei.
1:00:10
But I demolished him by 40 plus points so that wouldn't have
1:00:13
made a difference. So that tells you that's Keith's
1:00:15
own fault, that he should demolish Derek like he's
1:00:18
demolished everybody. Else.
1:00:19
No, what you just did is first of all, this is like a fucking
1:00:24
no no. In fantasy, this is like a huge
1:00:26
sin. Is it?
1:00:27
I think it's been a sin, yeah. How's it a sin?
1:00:30
Because right now. I've seen you guys do it.
1:00:32
It's not you guys, but I've seen people do it in the chat, like
1:00:35
straight up. That's not, I guess, anyone's
1:00:38
back. I don't know if it's that much.
1:00:39
I don't know. I, I, I'm mixed about it.
1:00:41
I'm I'm little disappointed that you did it to me.
1:00:44
I'm I'm sorry. It's Keith.
1:00:45
We've seen your trades. We.
1:00:47
I know you have no morals in kind of.
1:00:50
No, I think, I think it's one thing to do it in the group
1:00:52
chat, like publicly, like yo Derek, change your line up.
1:00:55
It's another thing they'll be messaging someone on the side
1:00:57
and doing it. I think that's where the line is
1:00:59
crossed. It's good content for now.
1:01:02
That's why I did it for I didn't.
1:01:04
Disappointed. It's OK.
1:01:06
Don't worry. You could have texted me at
1:01:08
6:00, be like, hey, you forgot to wake up.
1:01:10
Say your lineup. Oh.
1:01:11
Yeah. Where's my, where's my tax in
1:01:13
the morning? Where's that?
1:01:14
Sunday. Sunday at six, Sunday at 550.
1:01:17
Where's my tax? Oh, I wasn't even looking at
1:01:19
lineups at that point. I could have used that.
1:01:21
Hey, hey. I wouldn't switch out Savio and
1:01:24
Jack Relish. I'm sorry I was busy at work.
1:01:26
I would have won my matchup if I woke up in time and made the
1:01:29
change. Well, the other leak.
1:01:31
Yeah, Oh. You don't care about the other
1:01:34
leak. But I would have won it.
1:01:36
Oh, OK, yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry.
1:01:39
Well, because Keith didn't tell me about something.
1:01:42
He didn't tell Tikka about something about his also.
1:01:44
What did I not tell you guys? I'm I'm an open.
1:01:46
That was that was you knew something about about Tikko's
1:01:51
lineup before last year and you didn't tell him.
1:01:53
I didn't tell anyone though, Like I, I noticed I didn't say
1:01:56
anything. That's that's oh.
1:01:57
You found out You found a little.
1:02:00
I'm an adult, I don't need people to give me advice on
1:02:03
who's playing, who's out. If I make a mistake, that's on
1:02:05
me. I don't need fucking people to
1:02:07
babysit my team, especially from desperate people who are like
1:02:11
mediocracy. What is your what are you like
1:02:12
middle of the league? I'm 5th but I'm not the. 4/04.
1:02:17
I'm the fourth top highest scorer, right behind you 2 and
1:02:22
I'm 5th, so I'm playing. I should be where I'm at at the
1:02:24
moment, I'm just saying. All right, well, I'm, I'm
1:02:27
feeling a little hurt in between, but I think we should,
1:02:30
we should move on before this feeling deepens.
1:02:32
At least, at least I was honest. Yeah, I appreciate that.
1:02:35
I appreciate honesty. I don't care for honesty.
1:02:43
I'm torn. I'm very torn.
1:02:45
I don't know if we can do this podcast anymore.