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Chuck & Buck 4-21 Hour 3: Draftmas Catalog, a little nitpicking and Miracle on 34th pick! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: He comes back next Monday, by the way, and we'll
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Speaker 1: know it was all a Draftmas ploy.
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Speaker 2: Well, and that's it.
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Speaker 3: I mean, nothing serious is going on with Bucky's health
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Speaker 3: as far as we know. But he did have a
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Speaker 3: couple of things that he needed to you know, look into,
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Speaker 3: and so but that's the that's the thing that I
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Speaker 3: didn't really want to tell him because I know he
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Speaker 3: believes in Western medicine, but I believe in Draft Miss medicine.
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Speaker 3: The Draftmas spirit would have filled him.
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Speaker 2: Up and healed him absolutely. I didn't want to say
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Speaker 2: that because.
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Speaker 4: You know, you don't want to look like a cuckoo.
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Speaker 3: Well I need, yeah, I didn't want to look like
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Speaker 3: a cook. And he'd scoff at it and so on
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Speaker 3: and so forth.
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Speaker 2: But it would have healed him. It would have healed
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Speaker 2: all the day old him.
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Speaker 3: But happy Draftmas to everybody else. Hopefully it's getting into
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Speaker 3: your you know, wounds and sutures out there, and it's disgusting,
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Speaker 3: you know, finding its way past all of that and
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Speaker 3: into your heart.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 3: Maybe some cash would help as well. We got a
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars of Grand Slam cash. We got a brand
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Speaker 3: new keyword too. I mean this is up and going again.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for dropping this in the middle, not like we're busy.
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Speaker 3: Bills is your keyword, as in the bills of the
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Speaker 3: twenty sixth pick in the NFL Draft this year, So
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Speaker 3: bills into that at ninety three to three kjar dot
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Speaker 3: com for your shot at one thousand dollars in Grand
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Speaker 3: Slam cash. All right, let's get to the draft miss catalog.
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Speaker 3: It is one of the staples to our draft miss
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Speaker 3: holiday celebration, our countdown to the NFL Draft, which combines
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Speaker 3: the joy of Christmas.
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Speaker 2: With the joy of the NFL Draft in one convenient
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Speaker 2: holiday we can all celebrate.
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Speaker 3: And we do the catalog more so than anything else.
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Speaker 3: And that is a breakdown of one of the positions
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Speaker 3: in the draft. We have not done running backs yet,
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Speaker 3: we're saving that for tomorrow. And we have not done
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Speaker 3: cornerbacks yet, which we are doing right now. There is
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Speaker 3: a monetary value placed beside all of these different cornerbacks
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Speaker 3: that we're going to cover, and we can't the mall.
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Speaker 3: We don't have time. But I did try to find
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Speaker 3: one or two guys in each of the price ranges,
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Speaker 3: and considering that this seems to be one of the
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Speaker 3: great needs that the Seahawks have entering into the draft.
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Speaker 3: It's one of the reasons why we saved it for
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Speaker 3: the penultimate edition of the Draft Miss Catalog. So we
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Speaker 3: better get started, as we got a lot to go through.
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Speaker 3: I have more guys to go through than everybook.
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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, Okay, I'm ready.
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Speaker 3: Okay, let's start at the top. We always mentioned the
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Speaker 3: best guy. Doesn't look like the Seahawks are gonna have
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Speaker 3: a shot at this dude, But I'm going to give
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Speaker 3: you Monsor Delaney five Schneider Bucks. That's that's that's a
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Speaker 3: top ten pick right there. Value five eleven and three
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Speaker 3: quarters one hundred and eighty seven pounds out of LSU consensus,
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Speaker 3: if not unanimous, top cornerback available in this draft. First
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Speaker 3: team All American his first and only year at LSU
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Speaker 3: after transferring from Virginia Tech, Delaney reads like the one
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Speaker 3: guy in this draft with shut down corner potential, as
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Speaker 3: evident by the fact that his play has taken big
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Speaker 3: leaps in each of his last two seasons, suggesting that
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Speaker 3: he's still improving and at a rapid rate. He also
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Speaker 3: dominated last fall despite nursing a core injury for much.
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Speaker 2: Of the year. How good will he be if he's healthy.
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Speaker 3: Also a big hitter, which is a trait not often
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Speaker 3: associated with cornerbacks. But he's got some witherspoon in him,
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Speaker 3: He's got some dog in him. If he has a weakness,
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Speaker 3: it is tracking the deep ball, which by the way,
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Speaker 3: can be a pretty big weakness for a cornerback. You know,
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Speaker 3: giving up deep balls is not what you want to
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Speaker 3: do in the National Football League. They'll pick on you
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Speaker 3: all day long, and deep balls tend to lead to
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Speaker 3: big place So that is a bit of an issue,
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Speaker 3: but something that he certainly can find tune in the
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Speaker 3: early part of his career and maybe turn it into
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Speaker 3: his strength. Five Schneiderbucks for monsor Delaney seems a little
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Speaker 3: rich for the Seahawks blood.
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Speaker 2: But we always have to mention the number one guy
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Speaker 2: at every position group.
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Speaker 3: Let's go to the three dollars players, and Chris Johnson
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Speaker 3: is a name that has to be mentioned in our
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Speaker 3: cornerback groupings. The cornerback out of San Diego State. And
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Speaker 3: how about this for a little wrinkle to the draftmas catalog.
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Speaker 3: I'm usually breaking these guys down, but just yesterday our
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Speaker 3: own Hugh Millen had a chance to break down Chris
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Speaker 3: Johnson and Chris talked about Chris Johnson's length, his skill,
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Speaker 3: and his ability. I'm not going to go through at
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Speaker 3: all with Chris Johnson since we just talked about him
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Speaker 3: in this segment yesterday, but he's going to cost you
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Speaker 3: three schneiderbucks. He is a guy that has been commonly
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Speaker 3: linked to the Seahawks throughout this process. Avian Terrell is
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Speaker 3: another one. I will go through an Avian Terrell breakdown
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Speaker 3: because we didn't mention him yesterday with Hugh.
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Speaker 2: Three Schneider bucks.
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Speaker 3: Also for Avian Terrell, the five foot ten inch three
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Speaker 3: in quarters one hundred and eighty six pound cornerback out
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Speaker 3: of Clampson.
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Speaker 2: They pronounce it Clampson.
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Speaker 4: With a P.
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Speaker 3: They do, Okay, I don't think we're supposed to do that.
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Speaker 3: Like if we did that, a Clampson fan would probably
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Speaker 3: angry with us, maybe thought we were mocking them.
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Speaker 4: I'd probably do it more than.
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Speaker 3: But even though there's not a P in the name,
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Speaker 3: they pronounce it clumps. And his brother AJ plays for
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Speaker 3: the Falcons, so it's in the blood. Also a bit
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Speaker 3: of a coach for Avian is Aj apparently pretty hands
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Speaker 3: on brother to try to get him to be the
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Speaker 3: best he can be. He spent just three years in
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Speaker 3: school before entering the draft, so we're looking at a
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Speaker 3: younger cornerback here. Very good athleticism with excellent fluidity to
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Speaker 3: his movements, which is huge for a cornerback. If we've
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Speaker 3: ever seen that drill that they do at the combine
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Speaker 3: where they just have him run backwards and kind of
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Speaker 3: swivel their hips back and forth, they learn a lot.
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Speaker 3: They learn a lot of information from that drill just
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Speaker 3: how they move, and Terrell's one of the better more
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Speaker 3: fluid cornerbacks in this draft. Yes, he is a bit
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Speaker 3: undersized and actually slight. He's kind of got a slight
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Speaker 3: build to him, and it does cost him on the
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Speaker 3: field against bigger targets, but it doesn't limit his aggression.
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Speaker 3: He's a feisty corner back, a bit of an irritant
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Speaker 3: he's been described, and is not a great tackler, but
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Speaker 3: a willing tackler, and that's a.
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Speaker 2: Great place to start.
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Speaker 3: Also, Mike McDonald loves his versatile defenders. Terrell can play
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Speaker 3: inside or outside equally as well, so that could give
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Speaker 3: Mike McDonald John Schneider a toy to play with there
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Speaker 3: in the secondary, but does lack in size and strength
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Speaker 3: and leaping ability. Does it get negated by the polish
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Speaker 3: that he plays with the instincts that he has, the
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Speaker 3: skills he's developed, and they'll want to that he displays.
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Speaker 3: That's the question with Terrell. I think if you want him,
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Speaker 3: you're probably not going to be able to trade down
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Speaker 3: from thirty two, if that might be a little bit
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Speaker 3: of a risk. So I'm going to value him as
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Speaker 3: three Schneiderbucks, which makes him available there at thirty.
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Speaker 2: Two in the draft.
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Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Brandon Seesay and you know what,
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Speaker 3: I Am going to let Hugh Millen break down for
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Speaker 3: you Brandon Seesay out of South Carolina, because even though
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Speaker 3: I'm father draftmus, I know my limitations and I probably
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Speaker 3: can't do it as well as Hugh. Here's Hugh yesterday.
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Speaker 5: On the South Carolina cornerback ce say is Is has
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Speaker 5: had the thirty visit to renting you. Now, he's the
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Speaker 5: shortest of the three at five to eleven and three quarters.
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Speaker 5: And all of these guys, by the way, throw a
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Speaker 5: blanket over their forty yard dash hood four four four
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Speaker 5: Chris Johnson for four flat c say four four one.
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Speaker 5: But when you watch the tape, ce say, he seems
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Speaker 5: to have the best game game speed, he has the
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Speaker 5: best catch up speed when he gets beat on vertical routes.
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Speaker 5: I think there's a twitchiness to him. The athleticism of
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Speaker 5: the three, the best athlete is Ceesay and he had
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Speaker 5: a forty one inch vertical which is beyond elite, right,
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Speaker 5: and so now he has there's some rawness to his
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Speaker 5: technique with his footwork and what have you. So I
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Speaker 5: think that he needs the most coaching. I think there's
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Speaker 5: a there's a want to know and and study factors.
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Speaker 5: So I think that that he's willing. But you know,
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Speaker 5: when you there's gonna be talk, for example, in the
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Speaker 5: draft about the two defensive ends from Miami Hurricanes, and
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Speaker 5: we're going to discuss Jason Taylor is the defensive and
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Speaker 5: coach for the Miami Hurricanes. Right, Well, those dudes were
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Speaker 5: getting elite training and and that could be a positive
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Speaker 5: or that could be a negative. You could say, well
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Speaker 5: how much more? Uh, you know, you know, meat is
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Speaker 5: on the bone. I mean, didn't Jason Taylor get everything
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Speaker 5: there is to get out of those guys? And they're
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Speaker 5: gonna both be first rounders. But and we're not talking
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Speaker 5: about defensive ends. I only bring that up to say
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Speaker 5: that when you watch c say you're not overwhelmed.
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Speaker 2: With the the coaching, you.
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Speaker 5: Know, I think that they're because of his technique, and
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Speaker 5: so I think that there's more room for improvement if
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Speaker 5: you draft him. You take the athletic profile and uh,
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Speaker 5: and then combine it with better technique.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: That that there's there's maybe.
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Speaker 5: A higher the highest ceiling with him. I think the
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Speaker 5: lowest or the highest floor, rather the highest floor is
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Speaker 5: Chris Johnson. I think that he he you can come
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Speaker 5: in and you can envision him being a good starter
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Speaker 5: from the jump. She say, you know, it's gonna take
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Speaker 5: a little bit more of a work in progress. Uh
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Speaker 5: uh and the process. But I again, because of his
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Speaker 5: athletic traits, maybe there's a I don't want to say
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Speaker 5: boom bust. That might be an overstatement, but there is
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Speaker 5: a component to that that that best athlete, most raw technique.
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Speaker 3: All right, look at Hume Mellen. They've got Hugh Coon Cornelius.
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Speaker 3: We's on his way into the draftness catalog. Yeah, I've
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Speaker 3: never never allowed.
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Speaker 2: That during the draftmas catalog sect Grillen.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying trying to make this thing, you know, intergalactic.
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Speaker 2: All right, So that's two and a half.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put two and a half Schneiderbucks on Brandon Seesay.
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Speaker 3: That means you could trade down from thirty two and
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Speaker 3: still get Brandon Seesay. But you better not go too
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Speaker 3: far if you love him. Greg Bell thinks the Seahawks
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Speaker 3: are in on Brandon Seesay. They think that that's one
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Speaker 3: of the names he has mocked to the Seahawks and
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Speaker 3: has consistently brought up through this process connected to the Seahawks.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to bring up somebody at the exact same
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Speaker 3: value who I suddenly think is the guy trading Stookes
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Speaker 3: out of Arizona. Six feet and a half inches tall,
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Speaker 3: one hundred and ninety pounds, four three three forty, which
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Speaker 3: is great, thirty eight inch vertical, which is great, one
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Speaker 3: of the best athletes in the group. I think that
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Speaker 3: they have him rated as top five athlete in this group.
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Speaker 3: He did have an ACL injury in twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 3: which he's overcome, and he's a little older than you'd
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Speaker 3: like him to be, but there's a great story behind
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Speaker 3: that he was a six year senior. He stayed his
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Speaker 3: entire six years at Arizona. I mean, think about that.
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Speaker 2: I like that.
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Speaker 3: I think that sum says something about the guy's character.
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Speaker 3: He also was a walk on in twenty twenty during
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Speaker 3: the COVID year. He went from a walk on in
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty, went through a knee injury, ended up being
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Speaker 3: a third team All American at the college level, and
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Speaker 3: was named the team captain by twenty twenty five. Great
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Speaker 3: passion for the game, great character, which is huge with
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Speaker 3: the Seahawks. They have definitely leaned into great character more
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Speaker 3: and more here in the last couple of years since
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Speaker 3: Mike McDonald came aboard. And he has versatility. These are
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Speaker 3: all things that John and Mike don't just like. They
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Speaker 3: love this guy could be a safety in the National
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Speaker 3: Football League or a cornerback. Who does that sound like
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Speaker 3: he is the Kobe Bryant replacement. Yeah, that's two and
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Speaker 3: a half Schneider Bucks for trade and Stokes. You can
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Speaker 3: move down from the first round and get him, but
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Speaker 3: if you really do want him, you don't want to
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Speaker 3: move too far down and possibly miss out on him.
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Speaker 3: I think he's going to be the guy, I'm going
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Speaker 3: to tell you right now, I am mocking Trade and
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Speaker 3: Stokes to the Seattle Seahawks, all right, and red circle that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you should, all right?
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Speaker 3: Two dollars two Schneider Bucks. This means a day two player,
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Speaker 3: we're gonna go with D'Angelo Ponds. Heath Dining five to
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Speaker 3: eight and a half inches tall, one hundred and eighty
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Speaker 3: two pounds out of Indiana makes up for that lack
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Speaker 3: of height a little bit with a forty three and
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Speaker 3: a half inch vertical that's getting up there. The great
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Speaker 3: thing about DiAngelo pounds you can't Ponds. You can't go
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Speaker 3: any further than mentioning he was a national champ. And
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Speaker 3: more than that, he was one of those Kurt Signetti
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Speaker 3: James Madison guys, in other words, completely overlooked by Division
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Speaker 3: one programs coming out of college. Signette saw something special
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Speaker 3: in him, so special that he when he went to
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Speaker 3: the Big ten, he took him with him and he helped.
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Speaker 3: He was one of the pieces that revitalized that program
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Speaker 3: and helped turn them into a national champion. And he
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Speaker 3: did not back down at all from Big ten competition.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's Ohio State receivers that he's having to face.
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Speaker 3: That's going up against Oregon in the playoff game and
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Speaker 3: getting a pick six to start that onslaught.
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Speaker 2: Remember how they destroyed Oregon. Ah, that was hilarious.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, DiAngelo Pond's had a lot to do with that.
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Speaker 3: Most likely a nickelback in the NFL, because let's face it,
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Speaker 3: there's no getting around the size disparity here. He's a
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Speaker 3: small guy both height and physical frame. He's going to
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Speaker 3: struggle against bigger receivers. He's going to struggle covering them.
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Speaker 3: He's going to struggle tackling them, probably going to have
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Speaker 3: to like corral them around the ankles. So there's a
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Speaker 3: tiny element to this. There's a size element to this.
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Speaker 3: But we also have a guy who's like a warrior
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Speaker 3: and he's a winner. And I like my warriors and winners,
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Speaker 3: even if they are tiny, little bitty warriors and winners.
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Speaker 4: He just a little guy.
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Speaker 3: Let's get to the big guys, the six foot four
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Speaker 3: inch guys. If you're maybe looking for a long, tall
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Speaker 3: reek Woolen type replacement type, well you don't look any
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Speaker 3: further than Seattle, because I got two of them for you.
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Speaker 3: For one Schneiderbuck to Caario Davis sixty four, one hundred
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Speaker 3: and ninety four pounds out of you Dub three years
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Speaker 3: at Arizona before joining Jed Fish's squad there at Washington
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Speaker 3: four four to one forty, which is good, and especially
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Speaker 3: for that height thirty seven inch vertical my goodness, thirty
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Speaker 3: three and three eight inch arms. I mean, we're talking
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Speaker 3: about the longest cornerback that you can find in an
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Speaker 3: NFL draft.
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Speaker 2: He played only.
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Speaker 3: Seven games as a Husky, so who knows how healthy
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Speaker 3: he even was for the seven had hamstring issues. You
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Speaker 3: don't get longer than Davis at cornerback. The height, the
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Speaker 3: arm length, the leap ability is gigantic hands. He's certainly
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Speaker 3: not the athlete that Rik Woolen is, but then who is.
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Speaker 3: Davis is certainly plenty athletic, more of a zone cornerback
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Speaker 3: according to the scouts. Good route runners tend to give
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Speaker 3: him more trouble than they should and manned a man,
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Speaker 3: and he's not exactly known for run support. His twin
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Speaker 3: is Ephesians Price sock six three and a half one
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Speaker 3: hundred and ninety six pounds out of dubb. Seriously, how
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Speaker 3: did you dub end up with two of these guys,
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Speaker 3: they had two six foot four inch corners. That still
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Speaker 3: blows my mind. Jedfish, I haven't watched them.
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Speaker 2: And it still blows my mind that they had two
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Speaker 2: six foot four inch corners.
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Speaker 3: Four four five forty so not quite as fast as Davis.
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Speaker 3: Thirty nine inch vertical, which is a little better than Davis,
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Speaker 3: and his arms aren't quite as long. Two years at Arizona,
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Speaker 3: two years at you Dubb same proto type as Davis
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Speaker 3: as you might expect, not quite as athletic, or as
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Speaker 3: sudden or as aggressive. But he's forecasted to go in
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Speaker 3: the same range of the draft as Davis, maybe a
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Speaker 3: little lower. And I think this is the biggest knock
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Speaker 3: against him. He just doesn't turn the ball over. Imagine
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Speaker 3: being that big and long and fast, and you didn't
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Speaker 3: create any more than one interception at Washington in two years,
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Speaker 3: and you didn't create more than two interceptions your entire
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Speaker 3: collegiate career. The ball doesn't find him. You hear that
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Speaker 3: about cornerbacks. The ball finds him. Ball doesn't find him.
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Speaker 3: Maybe that's a credit to price Sock's coverage skills, but
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Speaker 3: you certainly would like to see him create more turnovers.
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Speaker 2: Price sock.
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Speaker 3: What he can do is smother wide receivers at the
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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, and he has excellent, long legged closing speed.
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Speaker 3: He's probably my favorite cornerback named after a Bible chapter
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Speaker 3: since the great Deuteronomy Jones of the thirties.
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Speaker 4: He was awesome. Yeah, I just made him up, I know,
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Speaker 4: but I really liked it.
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Speaker 3: Finally, for fifty cents, Andre Fuller six two hundred pounds
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Speaker 3: out of Toledo ran a four to four nine, which
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Speaker 3: is pretty slow for a cornerback in today's game at
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Speaker 3: a thirty five inch vertical.
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Speaker 2: Which is fine.
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Speaker 3: I only mentioned Fuller because we know he visited the Seahawks.
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Speaker 3: He's one of the last guys to play in the
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Speaker 3: COVID season, meaning he spent six years in college. This
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Speaker 3: is an older fella, first with Arkansas Pine Bluff and
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Speaker 3: then he jumped to mac football at Toledo. Good length,
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Speaker 3: good size, ample strength for the position. He's a press
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Speaker 3: corner whose speed limitations may suggest a hybrid role at
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Speaker 3: the next level, but that's all right.
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Speaker 2: They like that with the Seahawks.
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Speaker 3: If nothing else, an excellent special teams coverage guy that
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Speaker 3: you could get in the sixth or seventh round of
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Speaker 3: the NFL Draft, and I do want to give you
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Speaker 3: a fifty cent option. So there you go, Ashley Man.
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Speaker 3: We covered a lot of ground here today and you
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Speaker 3: can circle only one. I mean Rob rang took two
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Speaker 3: corners in a Seahawks mock draft, but you can only
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Speaker 3: circle one for right now, I know.
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Speaker 1: And that is a hard decision because I have heard
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Speaker 1: a lot about Brandon sees and he does yeah, and
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Speaker 1: you know it's a he says, she say, situation. Yes
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Speaker 1: it is, he says, situation. And the fact that he's
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Speaker 1: the best athlete is very intriguing. You really sold me
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Speaker 1: on trad and Stukes though as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting a corner.
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Speaker 4: I know, yeah, we are, no matter of which one.
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Speaker 1: I like the idea, and I think that Mike and
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Speaker 1: John would be intrigued by the rawness that you talked
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Speaker 1: about with and what they could do and how they
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Speaker 1: could mold him.
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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go with c all right.
18:24
Speaker 2: That's somebody that loves herself some Greg Bill really believes
18:27
Speaker 2: in what Greg Bill.
18:28
Speaker 1: Teaches me and what I am Greg believer.
18:34
Speaker 2: I could see it.
18:34
Speaker 3: I could certainly see that when I can see a
18:36
Speaker 3: lot of these guys. I could see Chris Johnson. I
18:39
Speaker 3: like that connection as well. I could see the Davis
18:42
Speaker 3: or Prysock thing. I think maybe they like having a
18:44
Speaker 3: long cornerback for matchups that you're gonna have to face.
18:48
Speaker 3: I mean, you are gonna have face Pooka. He's a
18:50
Speaker 3: bigger guy. And you never know, you got Davonte Adams
18:53
Speaker 3: in the division, you know, So maybe they do want
18:57
Speaker 3: somebody like that in the secondary. Maybe they take two
18:59
Speaker 3: of these guys. But I'm gonna go ahead and say it.
19:01
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a long process to get here. I
19:03
Speaker 3: think the Seahawks first draft pick is going to be
19:05
Speaker 3: trading Stokes, and I think the character and the versatility
19:11
Speaker 3: and the passion for the football is going to speak
19:13
Speaker 3: to both Mike and John.
19:15
Speaker 2: This seems to be the.
19:16
Speaker 3: Direction that they've headed with their draft picks here in
19:19
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. And to me, if you
19:23
Speaker 3: let Kobe Bryant walk because he just got too expensive,
19:26
Speaker 3: trade and Stokes reads an awful lot like Kobe Bryant,
19:29
Speaker 3: a awful lot like Kobe Bryant, I am going to
19:32
Speaker 3: predict that he is going to be the Seahawks first
19:35
Speaker 3: pick in the draft.
19:37
Speaker 2: Probably won't happen till Friday, but I think Trade and
19:39
Speaker 2: Stukes will be a Seahawk before the weekend comes to
19:42
Speaker 2: a close. So there you go, all right. Coming up next,
19:45
Speaker 2: let's get back to the Mariners.
19:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, might be nitpicking Dan Wilson a little bit, but
19:52
Speaker 3: you can't nitpick your local manager of your baseball team,
19:55
Speaker 3: then you're not living.
19:56
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that next.
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Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Turn that on. Hey,
20:12
Speaker 3: good morning, it is Chuck and Ashley with you here
20:16
Speaker 3: on this Tuesday. Chuck put Ashley, Ryan Bucky's out today.
20:20
Speaker 3: We got Greg Bell coming up at nine o'clock today,
20:23
Speaker 3: nine o'clock and at Miracle at thirty fourth pick coming
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Speaker 3: up at a forty five.
20:30
Speaker 2: I've got a Rob Ring mock.
20:31
Speaker 3: I got a Greg Bell Seahawks mock, and I got
20:34
Speaker 3: my own Seahawks.
20:35
Speaker 4: You are just gonna mock it all.
20:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna mock each other coming up
20:39
Speaker 3: at eight forty.
20:40
Speaker 2: Five here today.
20:42
Speaker 3: But obviously Mariners very much in our thoughts as well.
20:47
Speaker 3: They lost last night six to three, blowing a three
20:50
Speaker 3: nothing lead, and just you know, I mean, I get it,
20:55
Speaker 3: I get it. We all are frustrated. I'm frustrated with
20:59
Speaker 3: a ten and fourteen start, but I'm having a little
21:02
Speaker 3: bit of a difficult time sort of understanding what the
21:07
Speaker 3: theory is with pitcher use so far, because it's you know,
21:13
Speaker 3: we're having our starters go longer than they typically do.
21:17
Speaker 3: At the beginning of this year, I mean, George went
21:19
Speaker 3: like eight innings in a game, and so we're doing.
21:23
Speaker 4: That, and yeah, I enjoy Actually yeah.
21:26
Speaker 3: I think it's good. But it is I mean, but
21:29
Speaker 3: you're being aggressive with that. You're being aggressive.
21:31
Speaker 4: I mean, we are the opposite of how they were
21:33
Speaker 4: acting last year.
21:34
Speaker 2: We are We are.
21:35
Speaker 3: Bottom three and most innings pitched by our bullpen I
21:39
Speaker 3: mean or top three, depends on how you look at it.
21:41
Speaker 2: We've had the.
21:41
Speaker 3: Fewest innings pitch, yeah, in Major League Baseball from our relievers.
21:46
Speaker 2: And this is while being very, very protective of them.
21:51
Speaker 3: And look, I think this needs to be pointed out
21:54
Speaker 3: before we go one step further with this conversation. This
21:57
Speaker 3: organization does a great job, maybe the best job in
22:01
Speaker 3: the entire sport at keeping their pitchers healthy. Not Ashley's
22:05
Speaker 3: knocking on your head. But yeah, I'm not saying they
22:08
Speaker 3: will continue to do it.
22:09
Speaker 4: I'm saying, plotting them at how it's gone so much.
22:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're great at it, and they deserve credit for that.
22:14
Speaker 3: And maybe this is part of that, is that we're
22:18
Speaker 3: just gonna protect our guys a little bit more at
22:21
Speaker 3: the beginning of the season when they're ramping up, and
22:24
Speaker 3: that means we don't let anybody pitch more than an inning.
22:29
Speaker 3: They don't get warmed up again to go back out
22:31
Speaker 3: for a second inning. None of our best guys anyway,
22:35
Speaker 3: we're going to try to avoid pitching them back to
22:37
Speaker 3: back nights. They're never going to pitch on back to
22:41
Speaker 3: back to back nights, and so they've obviously got a
22:47
Speaker 3: set of rules, and you know, we might very well
22:50
Speaker 3: benefit from this. No matter how frustrated we are that
22:53
Speaker 3: Casey Legumin is entering the tie game in the eighth,
22:56
Speaker 3: then we know he's not one of our better relievers.
22:58
Speaker 3: He's certainly not one of our best. You might even
23:01
Speaker 3: argue he's our worst. And yet he's into the game
23:04
Speaker 3: in the eighth inning last night, tied and sure enough
23:07
Speaker 3: got the snot knocked out of him by a very
23:09
Speaker 3: good A's lineup, and we lost by a final score
23:12
Speaker 3: of six to four, So maybe we very well. I mean,
23:16
Speaker 3: Pete Woodworth is as smart as it gets out there.
23:20
Speaker 3: They are analytical teams all over this. You know that
23:23
Speaker 3: that Justin and Jerry are weighing in on this, So
23:26
Speaker 3: it's not all Dan, but they are certainly airing on
23:31
Speaker 3: the side of caution with overusing the bullpen at the
23:35
Speaker 3: beginning of the year, even though they're not airing on
23:38
Speaker 3: the side of caution with their starting pitching early in
23:42
Speaker 3: the season, which is the more valuable commodity. And so
23:47
Speaker 3: I get it, and maybe we'll all benefit from this,
23:50
Speaker 3: they'll benefit it from it in the long run. But actually,
23:52
Speaker 3: to me, there's some inconsistencies with what Dan's doing if
23:56
Speaker 3: this is the objective, And part of those inconsistencies is
24:01
Speaker 3: what we saw last night. We've been going further with
24:04
Speaker 3: starting pitching. Emerson gave up back to back home runs
24:08
Speaker 3: to the A's two best players. The damage had already
24:11
Speaker 3: been done. There wasn't anybody on base, he didn't have
24:14
Speaker 3: traffic or anything at that stage. And those were two
24:17
Speaker 3: battles that he ended up losing to two all star
24:19
Speaker 3: caliber hitters, and they tied the game up at three.
24:22
Speaker 3: So we're even at three, he's at eighty five pitches,
24:26
Speaker 3: and Dan knew because he'd either decided before the game.
24:31
Speaker 3: I mean, Gabe Spier never even considered entering.
24:34
Speaker 2: The game last night.
24:34
Speaker 4: No, he was comfortable on the bench.
24:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, they weren't going to use Munios again for a
24:38
Speaker 3: third night, and apparently Bizardo was not available either, so
24:42
Speaker 3: they knew of our five best relievers, only two of
24:46
Speaker 3: them are going to be available to us. Okay, so
24:51
Speaker 3: he used fair for one to get to come in
24:54
Speaker 3: for Hancock in the sixth, and then you breuce Brash
24:57
Speaker 3: for seven.
24:58
Speaker 2: So now what?
24:59
Speaker 3: And the idea was Legumina in the eighth and I'm
25:01
Speaker 3: assuming Willcox in the ninth. Well, I trust attired Emerson
25:07
Speaker 3: Hancock more than I trust Legumina. So why didn't you
25:11
Speaker 3: just let him finish the sixth and then try to
25:15
Speaker 3: dance your way through an inning between Wilcox and Legumina
25:20
Speaker 3: and then have Brash. You had to use Brash in
25:24
Speaker 3: the seventh because you were facing the top of the
25:26
Speaker 3: order again, So I get why they did that, But
25:29
Speaker 3: to me, that's a little strange to me that you've
25:34
Speaker 3: been extending your starting pitchers and yet on a night
25:36
Speaker 3: you know you're not going to tax your bullpen, you
25:39
Speaker 3: only have two of your best five guys available, and
25:43
Speaker 3: you're going to pull Emerson when before those two hitters,
25:46
Speaker 3: he didn't look like he.
25:47
Speaker 2: Was struggling at all. To me, that feels inconsistent.
25:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't make sense to me either, because I
25:52
Speaker 1: mean we've talked about that you could potentially have Brash
25:56
Speaker 1: as you know, going into do closing duties if necessary.
25:59
Speaker 4: So I have thought you wouldn't want him in so
26:02
Speaker 4: early in the game.
26:04
Speaker 3: Well, when they brought him in, I thought I didn't
26:06
Speaker 3: know for sure that they were so sold on. We're
26:10
Speaker 3: not using munos, we're not using Spire, we're not using Bizardo.
26:13
Speaker 4: Yeah.
26:14
Speaker 3: And so to me, the heart of the orders coming up,
26:18
Speaker 3: Matt's plenty rested.
26:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, more than plenty Yeah, And and so.
26:23
Speaker 2: We'll use him in the seventh. But you have all
26:25
Speaker 2: of these rules.
26:26
Speaker 3: Right now that are restricting you from winning the game
26:30
Speaker 3: that night for the better long term objective. And you
26:36
Speaker 3: might be right about this, but then to me, you
26:39
Speaker 3: can't then just waste Matt Brash for one out. If
26:43
Speaker 3: he's not allowed to pitch the next day, or if
26:46
Speaker 3: he's not allowed to God forbid, sit down, and then
26:49
Speaker 3: go back out into the game. Think about all those
26:53
Speaker 3: outs that got wasted in the last couple of weeks
26:56
Speaker 3: between Farrer and Brash and Spire trying to pitch yourself
27:00
Speaker 3: out of a jam. And I recognize the importance of
27:05
Speaker 3: having good pictures pitch yourself out of a jam.
27:07
Speaker 2: But when you have the rule that they are not
27:11
Speaker 2: allowed in.
27:12
Speaker 3: April to get back up again, go warm up and
27:16
Speaker 3: pitch an inning in a third or an inning and
27:18
Speaker 3: two third, well, you use up your appearances. You burn
27:23
Speaker 3: them out, and now all of a sudden you're in
27:26
Speaker 3: a game against a division opponent with a chance for
27:28
Speaker 3: some momentum. Here tied up at three, you're in the
27:33
Speaker 3: eighth inning, and you literally are having to use your
27:36
Speaker 3: worst reliever and against the heart of their order.
27:44
Speaker 2: You're gonna have.
27:45
Speaker 3: To get a little more consistent with how you're doing this.
27:47
Speaker 3: If you're gonna set all these rules in place, then
27:50
Speaker 3: we can't be just wasting Gabe Spire, Matt Brash, Andres
27:55
Speaker 3: Munno's outings on a third of an inning.
27:57
Speaker 2: We can't do it. You just don't have enough time.
28:00
Speaker 4: And that's the thing that's that's frustrating.
28:02
Speaker 1: It seems like they've got this whole plan and it's
28:04
Speaker 1: this is the way it is we go, this is
28:06
Speaker 1: the way it's written down, this is the formula we follow.
28:09
Speaker 1: But then they don't follow their own formula in the
28:12
Speaker 1: worst ways, like in that situation where you're throwing them
28:15
Speaker 1: out for one out or things like that, and you're
28:16
Speaker 1: wasting it if you're going to follow all these rules,
28:19
Speaker 1: follow all these rules.
28:21
Speaker 4: Or don't have the rules.
28:23
Speaker 1: And I think they have too many, and I think
28:24
Speaker 1: they're too strict, and I think they need to I
28:27
Speaker 1: think there needs to be more of a feel for
28:28
Speaker 1: the game and what's going on and maybe this situation
28:31
Speaker 1: and a little flexibility, And it doesn't seem like there's
28:34
Speaker 1: any flexibility right now.
28:35
Speaker 4: And that's what that's what I can't figure out.
28:37
Speaker 2: I think spying his last two outings through like ten pitches, yeah.
28:39
Speaker 4: I think he's probably fine to throw again.
28:41
Speaker 3: You think you think you know, Okay, you have that rule.
28:45
Speaker 3: We don't want to do that. We don't want anybody
28:47
Speaker 3: pitching three games in a row. Okay, fine, But then
28:52
Speaker 3: you also are coupling it with the rule that if
28:55
Speaker 3: they finish an inning, they can't start the next inning.
28:58
Speaker 4: Right, And that's what's not fair.
28:59
Speaker 3: We can't possibly expose somebody to early season injuries like
29:04
Speaker 3: that because an inning and a third teeth chattering, Oh.
29:08
Speaker 4: My gosh, they might have to get four outs.
29:10
Speaker 3: And again, I go back to what I said at
29:12
Speaker 3: the beginning. They're great at this, they're great at keeping up.
29:14
Speaker 3: They probably know it probably work out, will work out,
29:16
Speaker 3: and the benefit of the team in the long run.
29:19
Speaker 3: But I just don't think that you can add to that.
29:22
Speaker 3: All Right, We're gonna throw in Brash for four pitches
29:26
Speaker 3: and that counts as one of his outings, and so
29:28
Speaker 3: he can't be used the next day, and he can't
29:30
Speaker 3: get up the next inning because then you do run
29:33
Speaker 3: out of outs that you have to get people out.
29:36
Speaker 3: Then you end up throwing will Cox and Legumina into
29:40
Speaker 3: high leverage roles like last night.
29:42
Speaker 2: And I just don't think they're good enough to pull
29:45
Speaker 2: that off on a consistent basis. No, So I don't know.
29:48
Speaker 3: It feels like you're Robin Peter to pay Paul and
29:52
Speaker 3: then you're running out of cash before you get to Paul.
29:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've got to have at least a little
29:57
Speaker 1: bit of a residual right, a little to go, be
30:00
Speaker 1: able to go into the petty cash and be like,
30:01
Speaker 1: you know what, here, we got this.
30:03
Speaker 2: And I'll say another thing.
30:05
Speaker 3: I mean, I just watched Tacoma Friday night and I
30:09
Speaker 3: saw four guys come out of the bullpen and absolutely
30:12
Speaker 3: dominate a triple A team. I think they gave up
30:15
Speaker 3: one base runner in four innings. I think we have
30:17
Speaker 3: better options than like Yumina down in Tacoma. They're thirty
30:21
Speaker 3: minutes away. That's three straight outings. He's just gotten lit.
30:25
Speaker 3: If he doesn't have his sweeper, if he can't locate
30:27
Speaker 3: a sweeper exactly where he wants to throw it, then
30:30
Speaker 3: he can't get people out. And that's what's happened is last.
30:33
Speaker 4: Three outings, got a four point six to three er.
30:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, which you know he had like five scoreless outings
30:39
Speaker 3: to start the season, So we got to give him
30:41
Speaker 3: a little bit of credit there. But when you lose
30:43
Speaker 3: him in high leverage situations against the best hitters on
30:46
Speaker 3: the other team, I just don't think he's going to
30:50
Speaker 3: get the job done for.
30:52
Speaker 4: You, and so is so I don't know.
30:55
Speaker 3: It just feels to me you've set so many rules
30:58
Speaker 3: in place for how often you're going to use your
31:02
Speaker 3: relief pitchers that you've made it almost in pot. You're
31:07
Speaker 3: threading the needle almost every single night to try to
31:10
Speaker 3: get through games. What are you going to do if
31:12
Speaker 3: it goes extra innings?
31:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was wondering earlier, Like, so then
31:15
Speaker 4: you're screwed.
31:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Criswell is there to go long He
31:18
Speaker 3: ended up pitching the ninth last night instead of Wilcox.
31:21
Speaker 2: I trust Criswell more than I do those two guys
31:24
Speaker 2: right now, So we'll see. Maybe it's nitpicking.
31:29
Speaker 3: Maybe in the long run, what they're doing is absolutely
31:32
Speaker 3: we're going to thank them for it. In the long run,
31:35
Speaker 3: they kept all those guys healthy and eventually we got
31:37
Speaker 3: on a roll and so on and so forth. It
31:39
Speaker 3: just feels like there's some inconsistencies. It feels like there's
31:41
Speaker 3: a little bit of hypocrisy blended into there, and I
31:45
Speaker 3: think it's costing you victories right now, or at least
31:48
Speaker 3: better shots.
31:49
Speaker 2: At victories right now.
31:50
Speaker 3: All right, coming up next, Well, it's a miracle, is
31:54
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Speaker 4: at pies anymore.
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Speaker 3: She's kind of lost her like taste. Oh yeah, so
32:56
Speaker 3: she can't really tell the difference between salt and sugar anymore.
33:00
Speaker 4: That could be a problem when pie.
33:03
Speaker 2: That's huge when it comes to baking.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but her heart is cold, I tell you, her
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Speaker 3: The thirty fourth pick part of our Draft MIAs coverage,
33:23
Speaker 3: one of our new features this year. And so we
33:27
Speaker 3: have the thirty second pick, and yet I've been weekly
33:32
Speaker 3: discussing a trade down to the thirty fourth selection, which
33:37
Speaker 3: a miracle could occur on draft day if we could
33:41
Speaker 3: get to thirty fourth. I mean, that's the place you
33:43
Speaker 3: got to get according to the movies I watched growing up.
33:45
Speaker 3: What I saw, you want to get to the miracle
33:47
Speaker 3: at thirty fourth pick, and believe it or not, as
33:50
Speaker 3: if a premonition from the draftmas gods. Rob Rain I
33:55
Speaker 3: told us earlier today when I had him do his
33:57
Speaker 3: annual Seahawks mock draft on our show, What did he do?
34:00
Speaker 2: Ashley?
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Speaker 1: He had the Seahawks trade down from the thirty second
34:04
Speaker 1: pick too.
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Speaker 4: The thirty fourth pick.
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Speaker 2: It's a miracle.
34:09
Speaker 4: It was a miracle. And we didn't tell him to
34:10
Speaker 4: do that.
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Speaker 2: No, I did not. I don't know.
34:12
Speaker 3: Maybe he listens to the show. Maybe I though it
34:14
Speaker 3: was a good idea, and he thought he'd sound smarter
34:16
Speaker 3: if he did that, but sure enough, thirty fourth pick.
34:19
Speaker 3: So he ended up saying at thirty four, we're gonna
34:21
Speaker 3: go Jadarian Price out of Notre Dame, he says, And
34:25
Speaker 3: don't I don't hate this idea. Hey, you need a
34:28
Speaker 3: running back, don't get too cute. You know, if you
34:31
Speaker 3: want to move down once a couple of spots, Price
34:35
Speaker 3: should still be there. You would think early, especially that
34:38
Speaker 3: early in the second round, there are really only two
34:42
Speaker 3: or three running backs. It sounds like that you could
34:47
Speaker 3: really imagine stepping into Ken Walker's shoes in this draft.
34:51
Speaker 3: And so if you've got a shot at one of them,
34:54
Speaker 3: don't get cute. Just go ahead and grab him, even
34:56
Speaker 3: if you don't think it's tremendous draft value.
34:59
Speaker 2: Just go ahead and grab your guy.
35:00
Speaker 3: Fill your need, make all the Seahawks fans relax and
35:04
Speaker 3: grab Jadarian Price. I don't hate that as a theory.
35:07
Speaker 3: But I also heard Greg talk about this, and I
35:09
Speaker 3: agree with what Greg said. If they're not going to reach,
35:12
Speaker 3: they're not going to reach for a running back just
35:14
Speaker 3: because you want them to take one, or that the
35:16
Speaker 3: Seattle sports media thinks they're making a mistake not having
35:20
Speaker 3: filled the ken Walker position. They're going to take draft
35:23
Speaker 3: value because they do have some other needs, and I
35:27
Speaker 3: have a feeling where they're positioned. If they don't go
35:30
Speaker 3: Jadarium Price at thirty two or thirty four, then I
35:34
Speaker 3: don't think Mike Washington's making it to the end of
35:36
Speaker 3: the second round.
35:37
Speaker 2: And at that stage, I mean.
35:39
Speaker 3: Maybe they have all slew of guys they have rated
35:41
Speaker 3: ahead of Washington, but we don't as the media, we don't.
35:46
Speaker 3: That's the only three guys we're talking. Two guys we're
35:48
Speaker 3: talking about our Price or Washington to the running backs,
35:52
Speaker 3: to the Seahawks at running back. So maybe they don't
35:55
Speaker 3: end up taking a running back at all, or maybe
35:57
Speaker 3: they don't take one late. But then you got Derek
35:59
Speaker 3: Moore or the defensive end out of Michigan. He took
36:02
Speaker 3: a couple of defensive backs in round three because he
36:04
Speaker 3: made a trade with one of next year's pick into
36:07
Speaker 3: round three, an offensive lineman in the fifth which he
36:11
Speaker 3: got in the trade from to trade down to the
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Speaker 3: Miracle at thirty fourth pick, and then a defensive tackle
36:17
Speaker 3: in the sixth. Greg I've already commented, I think Greg's
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Speaker 3: mock is a little wishful thinking.
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Speaker 2: That he's got it. The Tacoma News Tribune.
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Speaker 3: All players that make a lot of sense make a
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Speaker 3: ton of sense for the Seahawks. It just feels to
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Speaker 3: me like, man, if that happens, boy, they really got lucky,
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Speaker 3: because I think that he's got everybody dropping a little
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Speaker 3: farther than what they're going to.
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Speaker 2: Fall during the draft day. But you know, that's just me.
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Speaker 2: That's just me reading the tea leaves. So here you go.
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Speaker 2: Here's mine.
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Speaker 4: Okay, ready, here is my Seahawks mock.
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Speaker 3: I am trading down from thirty two to Miracle at
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Speaker 3: thirty fourth pick, as mentioned in the Draftmas catalog. Today,
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Speaker 3: I'm taking trade in Stokes, the cornerback out of Arizona,
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Speaker 3: who could also double as a safety. They're not sure
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Speaker 3: if he'll be a starter at safety in the NFL
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Speaker 3: or a starter at cornerback.
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Speaker 2: Sounds a lot like Kobe Bryant.
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Speaker 3: There's your guy thirty fourth overall, trading Stokes out of Arizona.
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Speaker 3: Then at sixty four, I mean, there are a lot
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Speaker 3: of guys that I like better than this individual, but
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Speaker 3: I think they're going to fire off the board. The
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Speaker 3: edge rusher position is one that is rich in this draft,
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Speaker 3: and I think a lot of them are going to
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Speaker 3: go in the first couple of rounds, and so even
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Speaker 3: though there are guys I like better than this player,
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Speaker 3: if he falls to sixty four, I could see Mike
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Speaker 3: McDonald saying, hey, that might be my next de Marcus
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Speaker 3: Lawrence type. So I'm giving them Illinois's Gabe Akis, the
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Speaker 3: defensive end edge rusher out of Illinois at sixty four.
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Speaker 3: I'm going two cornerbacks, two defensive backs in this draft
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Speaker 3: because I'm starting to think that if you don't get
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Speaker 3: Washington or Price, then you might not take a running
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Speaker 3: back at all. So I'm going another corner I do
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Speaker 3: want one of the six foot four inch lengthy Reek
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Speaker 3: Woolen types out of Washington. Give me Tacario Davis at
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Speaker 3: the end of the third round to the Seahawks. I've
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Speaker 3: picked up a fifth rounder in that trade down to
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Speaker 3: the Miracle at thirty fourth pick. Now, I'm gonna use
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Speaker 3: that on a guy we pointed out in our draft
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Speaker 3: miss catalog, the sawed off, six foot rerun looking defensive
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Speaker 3: tackle out of Cincinnati. Don Take Corleon is gonna be
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Speaker 3: my pick there. He's all over the board. Some people
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Speaker 3: don't even have him getting drafted. Some people say he's
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Speaker 3: gonna go in the second or third round. I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: split the difference and say we can get him in
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Speaker 3: the fifth. I think we get a nose tackle in
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Speaker 3: Corleone that will remind us of poon Afford a little
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Speaker 3: bit there out of Cincinnati, and then I'm finally gonna
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Speaker 3: get my running back in the sixth round. I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: take Indiana's Klon Black and just add him to the
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Speaker 3: running back room. And I'm not done with the offseason
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Speaker 3: of running back. I think there's gonna be some veterans
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Speaker 3: that are gonna come available, either waved or you could
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Speaker 3: pick up cheap in a trade. Maybe in even an
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Speaker 3: Alvin Kamara type could become available before the off season
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Speaker 3: comes to a close. But again, I think the headline
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Speaker 3: here is number one. I'm announcing. I think trade and
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Speaker 3: Stokes is the guy. And then the second thing is
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Speaker 3: if they don't get one of the top two running backs,
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Speaker 3: then I don't really see a reason why they reach
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Speaker 3: at any point in the draft for another add something
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Speaker 3: to the room and Kaylon Black, but I think that
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Speaker 3: running back. I think what we'll be talking about on
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Speaker 3: Monday is did they do enough at running back.
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Speaker 2: Do we have a big hole? Is it something to
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Speaker 2: still be.
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Speaker 4: Worried about that makes me a little nervous, does it? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Well, just being honest, No, See, I mean in John,
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Speaker 1: I trust in Mike.
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Speaker 3: I trust When were you not nervous some Christmas eves
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Speaker 3: that we weren't going to get the gift that you wanted.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there were a lot of them.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you ended up loving all of your
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Speaker 3: toys right, and got caught up in the spirit.
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Speaker 2: He love Santa just the same as you did before you.
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Speaker 1: Went to bed the night I played with that Barbie
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Speaker 1: house with the yellow for so long. Just let it
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Speaker 1: take over you and the go Go cycle.
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Speaker 2: Let it wash over you.
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Speaker 3: It'll all work awesome, even if you got a little
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Speaker 3: nervous though before, right, I mean none of.
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Speaker 2: Us can sleep the night before.
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Speaker 4: I'm so excited.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. Coming up next, Greg Bell's going to
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Speaker 3: join us. He doesn't normally do that at nine o'clock,
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Speaker 3: but you know he's got new hours. So we'll chat
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Speaker 3: with our Seahawks insider next year. What he's hearing on
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