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Shock Gloves and Kellogg · The KFAB Comment Line with Jean Stothert

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Geene Stothard. Peyton Hilock, my producer, is
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Speaker 1: also here today. Good morning, Good morning Jean. How's married
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Speaker 1: Live treating you? It's great for a week.
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Speaker 2: I'm loving it.
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Speaker 1: I bet you are, and I bet your bride, your
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Speaker 1: wife is too. I have a guest in here today,
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Speaker 1: but he doesn't want to say anything. But my son,
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Speaker 1: Andrew Stothard is here. He's sitting in the corner. I
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people in Omaha know who Andrew
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Speaker 1: Stothard is. You left your mark in Omaha. He's just
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Speaker 1: shaking his head.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: But Andrew lives in Cincinnati now. He is a pH d.
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Speaker 1: He's doctor Andrew now. And he's here for a little
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Speaker 1: event that I'm involved in tonight at the Chamber. So anyway,
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Speaker 1: he's here with us today too. But thank you all
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Speaker 1: We are very happy that you are with us and Peyton, Boy,
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Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about today. We've been
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Speaker 1: talking about several items since six o'clock this morning with
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Speaker 1: the morning show, but some people are just tuning in now.
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Speaker 1: But if you look at the front page of the
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Speaker 1: World Herald, it covers what we're going to talk about today,
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Speaker 1: and we want to hear plenty of your opinion too.
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Speaker 1: First of all, well, on the front page, it's about
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Speaker 1: the Kellogg plant closing, It's about Omaha police and the
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Speaker 1: shot gloves, and then it's about Attorney General Hilgers, who
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Speaker 1: is on here just on Tuesday, suing the city over
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Speaker 1: the way Jordan ordnance, which we knew was coming. So boy,
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Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about.
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Speaker 2: We knew that was coming and he said that too.
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Speaker 2: But would you know the next day.
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Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I think after the show was over
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Speaker 1: and after we were on the air, he did say
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Speaker 1: that the lawsuit would be filed the next day, so
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Speaker 1: that the lawsuit in itself. Well, I'm going to tell
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Speaker 1: you my opinion on this from being mayor for twelve
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Speaker 1: years in the City of Omaha. The issue that I
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Speaker 1: think was talked about the most and with the city
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Speaker 1: council members that voted against it, And it wasn't just
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Speaker 1: an issue of they were against the minimum wage going up.
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Speaker 1: Their issue was do they have the authority and the
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Speaker 1: right to do it? And since the Attorney General had
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Speaker 1: already filed a lawsuit against the City of Lincoln for
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Speaker 1: doing the exact same thing. The point from the city
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Speaker 1: council members, three of them voted against it, four voted
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Speaker 1: for it, so it passed with one vote. But their
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Speaker 1: position was, let's wait and see what the ruling is
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Speaker 1: with the Attorney General over Lincoln, because we knew that
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Speaker 1: the Attorney General, and he always always Mike Hilders, he
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Speaker 1: would here. Like I said the other day, he made
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Speaker 1: it very clear that he was going to file a
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Speaker 1: lawsuit against the City of Omaha too, and they did
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Speaker 1: not wait for the ruling with Lincoln. But the ruling
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Speaker 1: has come out since then, and the ag won on
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Speaker 1: that case. They basically said they did not have the
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Speaker 1: authority to override what the state legislature did. Now, it
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Speaker 1: is true that when on a ballot, it is true
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Speaker 1: that the people voted for it. However, the legislature does
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Speaker 1: have the right to amend it, and they did. And
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Speaker 1: so they were saying, let's wait and see the three
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Speaker 1: on the city council, Let's wait and see what happens
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Speaker 1: with Lincoln. But they didn't, and so now the City
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Speaker 1: of Omaha has a lawsuit against them. Mayor Ewing went
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Speaker 1: back and forth whether he was going to veto this
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Speaker 1: or not, which he could have vetoed it, and they
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Speaker 1: could not have overridden that veto because it takes five
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Speaker 1: vote votes to override and it passed four to three.
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Speaker 1: So Mayor Ewing's on board with it too. But now
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Speaker 1: we have a lawsuit with the City of Omaha, which
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Speaker 1: is buyers outside council to be hired because potential conflict
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Speaker 1: of interest, and that outside attorney is probably going to
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Speaker 1: cost between two hundred and three hundred thousand dollars for
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Speaker 1: the taxpayers of Omaha. So now you know, both the
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Speaker 1: mayor and city attorneys are saying, well, we're going to
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Speaker 1: fight this and we're confident that will win, which is
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Speaker 1: what they always say what. I mean, what lawyer doesn't
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Speaker 1: say that when he takes on a case. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they all say we're confident that we will prevail. They're
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Speaker 1: not going to come out and say, well, we're going
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Speaker 1: to lose this one. And so they are saying that
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Speaker 1: they think that they will prevail, but it just sets
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Speaker 1: us up for an unnecessary lawsuit. What was concerning to
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Speaker 1: me was the comments from Danny Bigley, who Danny is
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Speaker 1: a good guy. I like him. He is the president
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Speaker 1: of the city Council. He always introduces himself as I'm
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Speaker 1: the union guy. But he responded, he is the one
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Speaker 1: that introduced the ordinance. So when you want a new ordinance,
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Speaker 1: you ask the law department to write it up for you,
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Speaker 1: and there's usually people that introduce it or sponsor it.
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Speaker 1: One of the council members. He was the introducer. And
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Speaker 1: he responded to the Attorney General's lawsuit on Tuesday and
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Speaker 1: he said, I quote, while I'm disappointed, I'm not surprised
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Speaker 1: the Attorney general big government overreaching lawsuit against seventy percent
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Speaker 1: of the voters who supported the minimum wage in the
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Speaker 1: City of Omaha with a landslide mandate. Baguley said, we
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Speaker 1: are fully prepared to fight vigorously in a court of law.
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Speaker 1: The ag is trying to crush the voice of the people,
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Speaker 1: and I am standing with them. So now this is
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Speaker 1: incredibly political too, about big government. The Attorney General there
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Speaker 1: is the state's attorney. The Attorney General is there to
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Speaker 1: represent the state of Nebraska and their employees. He is
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Speaker 1: there to represent the legislature and decisions they made. And
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Speaker 1: his point is that the city of Omaha, even though
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Speaker 1: they are a city with a home rule charter, as
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Speaker 1: well as Lincoln, the only two cities in the state
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Speaker 1: in Nebraska that have a city charter, they think that
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Speaker 1: that city charter gives them the right to override what
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Speaker 1: the state government does. And the Attorney General is saying, no,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't. It absolutely doesn't. And it was it happened
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Speaker 1: in a court of law on Lincoln and they said no,
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Speaker 1: Lincoln couldn't do it. And now I assume they're going
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Speaker 1: to say Omaha can't do it either. But they're trying
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Speaker 1: to make a point saying, we have a city charter
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Speaker 1: and so that trump state law and it does not.
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Speaker 1: So again, the city charter is like a constitution. Two
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Speaker 1: cities in Nebraska I'm on Lincoln have a charter. Omaha's
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Speaker 1: was approved by the people by a vote of the
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Speaker 1: people in nineteen fifty eight. That's when the charter was
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Speaker 1: first ratified. Any changes to the city charter has to
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Speaker 1: go back to a vote of the people. The mayor
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Speaker 1: is required to every if you can believe this, every
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Speaker 1: ten years, in an year that ends in three. Where
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Speaker 1: they came up with that, I don't know, but in
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Speaker 1: a year that ends in three, to have a charter convention.
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Speaker 1: And what the mayor does is he assembles a group
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Speaker 1: of employees, of citizens, of interested people to go through
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Speaker 1: that city charter page after page, word after word after word,
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Speaker 1: and make recommendations to amend the city charter. The mayor
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Speaker 1: can make recommendations, the city Council can, the Charter Committee can.
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Speaker 1: So I convened two charter conventions. I became mayor in
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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. I had to get my act going and
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Speaker 1: get a charter convention going in thirteen because it's the
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Speaker 1: year that ends in three, and then I did it
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Speaker 1: in twenty two. I wanted to do it a year
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Speaker 1: early and not wait till twenty twenty three to do
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Speaker 1: the second one. And then those recommendations go to the
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Speaker 1: City Council, they either approve or not approved to put
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Speaker 1: them on the ballot, and then it goes to the ballot.
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Speaker 1: That's what the city charter is. But the city Charter
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Speaker 1: is very very descriptive and what the city can do,
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Speaker 1: what they have the authority to do, and what they
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Speaker 1: cannot do.
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Speaker 3: Geane.
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Speaker 2: Yesterday, Amy Milton was on the Chris Baker Show. She's
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Speaker 2: a councilwoman for the City of Omaha, also an attorney herself,
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Speaker 2: so she is very well versed in this sort of stuff.
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Speaker 2: And this was the second time she was on the
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Speaker 2: Chris Baker Show within maybe a month, and you can
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Speaker 2: find that on the Chris Baker podcast page. But one
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Speaker 2: thing that she said the first time was, I think
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Speaker 2: that the mayor's office should wait until after the Lincoln
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Speaker 2: ruling and then decide to move forward or not. And
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna mention I guess that there's a company
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Speaker 2: and that they decided they're going to go with for
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Speaker 2: outside council and.
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Speaker 1: Bared Home right across the street, Big Law, Big Great
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Speaker 1: Law firm in Omaha.
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Speaker 2: And it's expected to be upwards of three hundred thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars and that's going to be tax payer money.
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Speaker 1: Yes. And Amy knows her stuff. Like I said, you know,
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Speaker 1: Amy is she's an attorney and she looks at things
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Speaker 1: with a legal eye all the time. She's not the
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Speaker 1: city's attorney. She understands it. She's an elected member of
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Speaker 1: the city council. But she knows her stuff. And that's
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Speaker 1: the point she made when they were going up for
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Speaker 1: the vote with some of her comments before it was passed,
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Speaker 1: is let's wait. I'm not saying we should raise the
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Speaker 1: minimum wage for sixteen year olds and fourteen year olds.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying let's wait, because I don't think we have
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Speaker 1: the authority to do so. And that's what I think
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Speaker 1: they should have done too. If if I mean, that
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Speaker 1: is something that I would have given, of course, careful
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Speaker 1: consideration to, but that is something I would lean towards
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Speaker 1: vetoing and vetoing it just because we can wait and
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Speaker 1: see what happens in Lincoln and hopefully save the citizens
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Speaker 1: of Omaha a lot of money. Now, three hundred thousand
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Speaker 1: in the scope of a billion dollar budget may not
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Speaker 1: seem like a lot, but all of that, it's a
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Speaker 1: lot to me, it's a lot to you. Peyton money,
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Speaker 1: I know, and that three hundred thousand dollars can be
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Speaker 1: used for a lot of other things too. When people
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Speaker 1: which comes to our next subject, but i'll finish this one.
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Speaker 1: When people right now are furious about sixty five thousand
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Speaker 1: being spent on shot gloves. So you know, you've got
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Speaker 1: to put all these things in in perspective. But every
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Speaker 1: penny comes from the taxpayers. Every penny should count four zero, two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten.
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Speaker 1: Or you can send an email comment at kfab dot com.
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Speaker 1: Anything that's on your mind, questions or concerns is fair game.
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Speaker 1: And we're going to shift topics a little bit here, Gene,
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Speaker 1: but I just want to ask one question. This comes
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Speaker 1: from Ryan in the email inbox. People get upset prices
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Speaker 1: are too high and then want people to get paid
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Speaker 1: more for the same productivity. How does someone think that
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Speaker 1: that works? It doesn't, you know? And if you are,
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Speaker 1: if you are a business minded person, that you know
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Speaker 1: the reason that they are saying these things is because
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Speaker 1: you know. The The problem is is if you have
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Speaker 1: a business, say McDonald's and Burger King. I don't know
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Speaker 1: what they pay, but I'm just going to give them
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Speaker 1: as an example and they are forced by the government
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Speaker 1: to pay their employees more than they do. They have to.
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Speaker 1: They have to make a bottom line, they have to
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Speaker 1: get a return on their investment. They have to be successful.
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Speaker 1: And if you make them raise what they are paying
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Speaker 1: their employee, they're going to do one of two things.
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Speaker 1: They're either not going to hire any more fourteen to
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Speaker 1: sixteen year olds, or they're not going to hire as
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Speaker 1: many employees. And it turns around and hurts the working
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Speaker 1: class more than it helps them. So and that has
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Speaker 1: been seen over and over state after state. That's what happens.
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Speaker 1: You know, the minimum wage should be should be determined
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Speaker 1: by the market. And you know already a minimum wage
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Speaker 1: of fifteen for those sixteen and over is almost twice
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Speaker 1: as much. And it might be just about twice as
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Speaker 1: much is what the national minimum wages. I think national
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Speaker 1: is seven and a half.
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Speaker 2: I might be a little off on that seven right
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Speaker 2: there though, yeah, right.
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Speaker 1: Right, And so it's already around here almost twice as much.
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Speaker 1: But what you get in turn is it hurts the business.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't help the business. And if the business gets hurt,
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Speaker 1: it's either less employees or they don't hire as many.
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Speaker 1: Now We've had the question asked and on this show
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Speaker 1: if that's going to affect labor negotiations within the City
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Speaker 1: of Omaha. And I've mentioned this before, but we do
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Speaker 1: not have any employees in the City of Omaha, not
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Speaker 1: even our lifeguards, not even our councilors for our camps
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Speaker 1: in the summer. No one is hired at minimum wage.
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Speaker 1: They're all above it. And so it's not going to
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Speaker 1: affect the City of Omaha's negotiations at all. But still
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Speaker 1: it's an issue that you know that I think is
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Speaker 1: something that the city council should have waited on. And
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Speaker 1: I know one of the council members was being interviewed
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Speaker 1: on TV and she was saying that, well, this is
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Speaker 1: two issues now. It's about minimum wage and it's about
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Speaker 1: what our authority is over the homeroom Real charter. And
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Speaker 1: she's right on that it is. So it's what they
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Speaker 1: have the authority to do and what they don't have
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Speaker 1: the power to do.
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Speaker 2: I have an interesting one for you here. This is
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Speaker 2: about the shot gloves gene and I'm getting quite a
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Speaker 2: bit of comments here at comment at kfab dot com.
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Speaker 2: And one thing that I've been seeing a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a trend from the listeners from you guys, is
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Speaker 2: what is going on with the superintendent of Omaha Public
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Speaker 2: School's Matthew Ray supposedly not knowing about the shot gloves
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Speaker 2: in his district. This is a quick SoundBite from Channel
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Speaker 2: seven KATV from the board meeting on Monday night.
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Speaker 3: The board did not know.
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Speaker 4: The board did not know about this because I didn't know.
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Speaker 2: And then this email is an unnamed email about shot gloves.
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Speaker 2: Just curious why the superintendent is just now aware of
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Speaker 2: the shot gloves being used, no awareness of the two
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Speaker 2: incidents that occurred in his district. Did he check on
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Speaker 2: the resource officers where the school parents made aware? Why
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Speaker 2: is this just seems to be swept under the rug.
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Speaker 1: And that's a head scratcher to me. To now, Matt Ray,
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Speaker 1: he's a good man. You know, he's worked his way
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Speaker 1: up from teacher through the ranks to become superintendent of
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Speaker 1: Omaha Public Schools and it's a big job. He's got
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Speaker 1: fifty thousand students in that school district. However, I think
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Speaker 1: this story is long from being over. And you know,
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Speaker 1: I know that they were looking in to this technology
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Speaker 1: of the glove and it comes from Compliant technologies all
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Speaker 1: the way back to twenty twenty three. And I think
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Speaker 1: you're going to find out more information and more information
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Speaker 1: that there was some communication even back that early between
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Speaker 1: the Omaha Police Department and the safety directors of our
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Speaker 1: public schools saying we are looking in to this technology.
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Speaker 1: We're looking for opinions. This is a less lethal force
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Speaker 1: than what these officers have at their fingertips right now.
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Speaker 1: What do you think about it? I think saying I
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Speaker 1: didn't know about it. You know, I like Matt Ray,
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Speaker 1: but he should have known about it, my goodness. And
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Speaker 1: here's the thing. These are these resource officers that are
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Speaker 1: in our schools. They're in our high schools, and they're
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Speaker 1: in our middle schools. We've been doing this for thirty
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Speaker 1: plus years. I mean they had resource officers when I
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Speaker 1: was on the school board, and that seems like one
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Speaker 1: hundred years ago. These are certified police officers. Part of
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Speaker 1: their uniform is their weapon, their gun, their baton, their mace,
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Speaker 1: pepper spray. They have tasers if they are trained in tasers.
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Speaker 1: Not everybody is trained in tasers, but they have those
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Speaker 1: to use. This is a lot less lethal in damaging
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Speaker 1: than any of those And now all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: they are saying, we don't want anybody to use these
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Speaker 1: shot gloves because they're going to be using them indiscriminately.
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Speaker 1: Well they haven't. They've used them now for a year,
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Speaker 1: Millard has them. They haven't used them at all, you know,
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Speaker 1: ops two times. Yes, I would think the superintendent should
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Speaker 1: have been notified by their safety director that they had
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Speaker 1: used those gloves. But you know, it's not the shock
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Speaker 1: that a taser does. A taser can knock you off
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Speaker 1: your feet. These provide a little jolt, and kiddingly people say,
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Speaker 1: is it like a shock collar on my dog? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: kind of, because a taser. A maximum voltage with a
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Speaker 1: taser can go up to twelve hundred volts. The maximum
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Speaker 1: on these are about three eighty. You know, it's about
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Speaker 1: a third of the jolt are the electricity or the
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Speaker 1: vaults that come through a taser.
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Speaker 2: And it's very direct, right on the point of content.
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Speaker 1: It's very direct, and it gives you basically a jolt.
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Speaker 1: The two times it was used in Omaha Public School,
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Speaker 1: both students and when you hear the details, which we've
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Speaker 1: talked about quite a bit, both students were offered medical
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Speaker 1: help and they declined it, they were fine. But when
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Speaker 1: these parents were just going berserk at the school board
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Speaker 1: meeting the other night and saying I don't want these
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Speaker 1: used on my student. Okay, then our options are to
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Speaker 1: go back with what they have on their uniforms. Already.
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Speaker 1: These are certified Omaha police officers. They have their guns.
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Speaker 1: Is the next thing the parents going to say, I
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Speaker 1: didn't know police officers had guns. They have their baton,
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Speaker 1: they have their pepper spray. Are they going to say
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Speaker 1: I didn't know they carried a baton in pepper stray.
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Speaker 1: That's part of their uniform. So that's what now they
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Speaker 1: will go back to. And I brought this up the
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Speaker 1: other day because there is, if there was God forbid,
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Speaker 1: a school shooting in Omaha, and there has been. I
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Speaker 1: remember the one at Miller South several years ago, probably
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Speaker 1: a good ten years ago, where a disgruntled student that
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Speaker 1: had been suspended came back into the school in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the day, went right to the principal's office,
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Speaker 1: shot the principal killed the assistant principal at Millard South.
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Speaker 1: And you know, but the biggest deterrent that you could
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Speaker 1: have against school violence is that cruiser parked out in
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Speaker 1: front of a school and the knowledge that there is
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Speaker 1: an armed police officer in that building, that is a
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Speaker 1: big deterreent. And one of the main things that that
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Speaker 1: police officer resource officer does is make good relationships with
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Speaker 1: the students. When you think of our high schools, and
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Speaker 1: our high schools are two thousand, twenty five hundred kids
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Speaker 1: or public high school, that's like a small city in Nebraska.
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Speaker 1: And you know that in a city that big, you're
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Speaker 1: going to have a police department. You know that in
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Speaker 1: a school of twenty twenty five hundred kids, eventually somebody
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Speaker 1: is going to make a bad decision. And I think
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Speaker 1: every parent should be grateful that there is a very
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Speaker 1: well trained Omaha police officer in that building. I have
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Speaker 1: a good friend that used to do security for me
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Speaker 1: that was one of my police officers. Now he's a
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Speaker 1: resource officer in Millard at a middle school and he
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Speaker 1: said he's been he had the glove for a year now,
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Speaker 1: never never used it, never needed to use it, but
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Speaker 1: never needed to use anything else that he has. But
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Speaker 1: there could be that day and there could be real quick.
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Speaker 2: Gene, can you try to explain what the relationship, the
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Speaker 2: work contract relationship is between a school resource officer and
19:19
Speaker 2: the school district. Because the SRO is not is not
19:24
Speaker 2: employed through the through Omaha Public schools and they're not
19:27
Speaker 2: employed by the school district.
19:29
Speaker 1: They are Omaha Police officers, correct, And you know, way
19:32
Speaker 1: out west and Sheriff Arroon Hansen is going to be
19:35
Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow because we could talk about it.
19:37
Speaker 1: The Sheriff's department does not use the shot gloves, but
19:40
Speaker 1: the Sheriff's Department does have resource officers in some of
19:44
Speaker 1: our public schools that are out west that are still
19:46
Speaker 1: in Douglas County. So he's going to be on tomorrow.
19:50
Speaker 1: But you know, the relationship is is there is a
19:53
Speaker 1: contract basically between the Omaha Police Department and the school districts.
19:57
Speaker 1: When we started out with the s school Resource Officer program,
20:02
Speaker 1: it was only in high schools, and they found them
20:05
Speaker 1: so useful and so beneficial they started using them in
20:09
Speaker 1: our middle schools too. But the relationship is always a
20:13
Speaker 1: good one. Usually the you know, the students, like I said,
20:17
Speaker 1: they get to know the resource officer, they usually ask
20:20
Speaker 1: for that resource officer to be back the next year.
20:23
Speaker 1: That resource officer also forms a really good relationship with
20:27
Speaker 1: the administration. So they know everybody in the principal's office,
20:30
Speaker 1: the assistant principles, and it's just been a very good,
20:34
Speaker 1: healthy relationship that they become part of that school, those
20:38
Speaker 1: resource officers, so they're not going to go around shocking
20:42
Speaker 1: kids if they become unruly. I know some of the
20:46
Speaker 1: testifiers at Omaha Public School meeting they were talking about, well,
20:50
Speaker 1: you know, if a kid has behavior problems, are you
20:52
Speaker 1: going to you know, are in special education, are you
20:55
Speaker 1: going to shock them? No, that's not how they're trained.
20:58
Speaker 1: That's not how police officers are trained. They're not going
21:01
Speaker 1: to shock them anymore than they would pull their gun
21:04
Speaker 1: on them. But they are there to not only protect
21:07
Speaker 1: the students, but to protect the faculty, the staff, anybody
21:11
Speaker 1: that is on that school campus is what that one
21:14
Speaker 1: officer is there to protect. And they need every bit
21:18
Speaker 1: of technology and equipment that they have available to use
21:21
Speaker 1: when those terrible circumstances happen. Baby, Baby, I like this.
21:27
Speaker 1: There you go.
21:28
Speaker 4: No, I know this.
21:29
Speaker 2: Is good News Radio eleven to ten kfab That is
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Speaker 2: jeenst Author on the mic. Some incredible vocals. Yeah really
21:36
Speaker 2: I'm paying highlock over here. Control on the board. News
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Speaker 2: Radio eleven to ten Kfab Jeens author. We're talking about
21:41
Speaker 2: these shot gloves, and this is a very very serious question. Okay,
21:46
Speaker 2: no jokes. This is not making fun or making light
21:50
Speaker 2: Mayor Jean's author. Is there a way that you can
21:53
Speaker 2: find somebody to come into the kfab studio and use
21:58
Speaker 2: the shot gloves on me?
22:00
Speaker 1: It's certainly something we could request, because you know, I
22:03
Speaker 1: think it's a it would be it would be good
22:07
Speaker 1: to show from somebody that is not involved in the
22:12
Speaker 1: school districts to say here's what it feels like, because
22:16
Speaker 1: I think that they offered the capability of some news
22:19
Speaker 1: media in the past to be tased. So that is
22:22
Speaker 1: definitely something that can be asked. The thing of it
22:27
Speaker 1: is is we certainly don't want to make light of it.
22:30
Speaker 1: You know, we don't want it to be a goofy
22:32
Speaker 1: little lockery. Yeah, a mockery of it. Are kind of
22:35
Speaker 1: making fun of it and going, oh wow, this is
22:38
Speaker 1: just like a dog shot color. I mean, we don't
22:40
Speaker 1: want to make fun of it because it's very serious.
22:43
Speaker 1: But it's certainly something that we could request because I
22:46
Speaker 1: do remember that there was a there was an issue
22:49
Speaker 1: years ago and some of the media did ask to
22:52
Speaker 1: be tased and they they arranged that in a controlled situation.
22:57
Speaker 1: So if you're willing, I'm willing to request that.
23:02
Speaker 2: And maybe they wouldn't want it to be whoever they
23:05
Speaker 2: would be right, it would be.
23:07
Speaker 1: The police department. Yeah, the Omaha Police Department.
23:09
Speaker 2: Maybe they would not like it to be here in
23:11
Speaker 2: the studio like you said, They would prefer probably a
23:13
Speaker 2: controlled environment.
23:14
Speaker 1: But could maybe go up to the training facility in
23:16
Speaker 1: Rainwood and do it out there. So that's a request
23:19
Speaker 1: I will do. We really want to hear from you all.
23:22
Speaker 1: We want to hear from what you think about this issue,
23:25
Speaker 1: if you have an opinion before we jump onto anything else.
23:28
Speaker 1: I did want to bring up to back to the
23:30
Speaker 1: shot gloves, back to Superintendent Matt Ray. You know why
23:35
Speaker 1: he did this position of that was on the front
23:39
Speaker 1: page of the World Herald today that he did contact
23:42
Speaker 1: all the school superintendents and said he this was in
23:46
Speaker 1: the paper and said that he would leave it up
23:50
Speaker 1: to the individual schools whether the electric shock devices would
23:55
Speaker 1: be used in their district and left it up to them. Again,
24:00
Speaker 1: I am I'm going to come out very supportive of
24:03
Speaker 1: our Omaha police officers because I do feel again I
24:09
Speaker 1: like Superintendent Ray. I think he's a good man. But
24:12
Speaker 1: I think Superintendent Ray should be concerned with running Omaha
24:16
Speaker 1: Public School and let the Omaha Police Department make the
24:20
Speaker 1: decisions about training and about the technology and about the
24:24
Speaker 1: devices that the Omaha Police officers use. Let the police
24:28
Speaker 1: department run the police department. Let ops run ops, and
24:33
Speaker 1: not try to tell I mean, the Omaha Police Department's
24:35
Speaker 1: not coming in telling ops how to run their schools.
24:39
Speaker 1: And I think that that definitely should be separated. So
24:42
Speaker 1: why did Matt Ray come out yesterday with that letter?
24:46
Speaker 1: And obvious it's obvious now because Mayor Ewing contacted the
24:50
Speaker 1: superintendents and said that it's up to you. I would
24:55
Speaker 1: come back at any time and defend our police department
24:58
Speaker 1: and say they need that capability and they need that technology.
25:03
Speaker 1: And so you know there there's again, there's no bigger
25:07
Speaker 1: deterrent for dangerous action in school than a cruiser parked
25:10
Speaker 1: in front of the school and an armed police officer
25:12
Speaker 1: within the building.
25:13
Speaker 2: On this topic, Gene, let's go to the phone lines
25:15
Speaker 2: for zero two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten. This is Tim.
25:19
Speaker 2: You are now live on KFAB with Jean's author.
25:21
Speaker 1: Good morning, Good.
25:24
Speaker 3: Morning, My question I have is it seems like the
25:29
Speaker 3: school district should be aware of what actions are being
25:33
Speaker 3: taken during city council meetings which would affect them, and
25:37
Speaker 3: they should have known about the shop goes far ahead
25:40
Speaker 3: of time.
25:41
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I mean, this was this was
25:45
Speaker 1: voted on in a public forum, in a city council meeting.
25:51
Speaker 1: It was a resolution, It wasn't an ordinance, but it
25:54
Speaker 1: was voted on and discussed. And the city council does
25:58
Speaker 1: not need to hand feed other elected boards. The school
26:02
Speaker 1: board Omaha Public School Board is an elected board elected
26:05
Speaker 1: by the people as well as Millard as well as
26:07
Speaker 1: Westside and Elkcorn, and you don't hand feed them. But
26:10
Speaker 1: they need to be aware. But also they I mean,
26:14
Speaker 1: they are supporting this school resource officer program, and they
26:18
Speaker 1: know that they have been in their schools for over
26:21
Speaker 1: thirty years, and they know they carry weapons. So I
26:24
Speaker 1: don't know why this was such a big shock, no
26:28
Speaker 1: pun intended. I shouldn't have used that word, but still,
26:31
Speaker 1: and then to actually say they didn't know of these
26:35
Speaker 1: incidences that happened within their school district, that is a
26:39
Speaker 1: head scratcher too. So you know, I hate for this
26:42
Speaker 1: to turn very political, but I think it's going to
26:46
Speaker 1: and I think this issue is not over yet. But
26:50
Speaker 1: the Omaha City Council does their work in public, just
26:53
Speaker 1: like the Omaha School Board does. And you know, you
26:57
Speaker 1: don't have to hand feed each other and say, here's
27:00
Speaker 1: something that we talked about today. With that resource officer program,
27:04
Speaker 1: they should already be aware of this.
27:06
Speaker 2: Next caller is Nate, thank you for giving us a
27:08
Speaker 2: call at for zero two five five, eight eleven ten. Nate,
27:11
Speaker 2: you are live with Jean Sauth.
27:14
Speaker 4: Good morning, Good morning. So I guess my chalice to
27:19
Speaker 4: these parents that seem to know how to do other
27:21
Speaker 4: people's jobs better than them mm hmm, is maybe put
27:24
Speaker 4: them in put him in the job for a day,
27:26
Speaker 4: Let them shadow a resource officer for a day a week,
27:30
Speaker 4: see how they would respond to certain situations.
27:33
Speaker 1: Good point, because you know there's that phrase walk a
27:36
Speaker 1: mile in my shoes, and I think that that applies
27:40
Speaker 1: here to They don't know how hard it is, and
27:44
Speaker 1: they those those officers every single day, whether they do
27:48
Speaker 1: traffic or homicide, They leave their house in the morning,
27:51
Speaker 1: say goodbye to their family, and they may never come
27:53
Speaker 1: home that evening. It's a dangerous job. It's a very
27:56
Speaker 1: dangerous job. And and the equipment they use is to
27:59
Speaker 1: protect themselves, to protect others, and to protect the community.
28:04
Speaker 1: And that's how they are trained. And they are trained
28:07
Speaker 1: very carefully to use these devices, and they're not using them.
28:10
Speaker 1: Willy Nelly. You know, I've told myself I was going
28:13
Speaker 1: to swear off social media when I wasn't mayor anymore,
28:16
Speaker 1: because sometimes it could be bad for your mental health
28:19
Speaker 1: reading social media. But I did look at a lot
28:21
Speaker 1: of the social media last night on the TV stations
28:24
Speaker 1: just to see the reaction, and I would swear what
28:28
Speaker 1: I looked at. I didn't look at everything, because I
28:31
Speaker 1: mean it was hundreds, but what I looked at was
28:33
Speaker 1: about ninety five percent in favor of the Omaha Police
28:36
Speaker 1: Department and using whatever equipment they need, and making comments
28:42
Speaker 1: about the parents just like you did. I mean some
28:45
Speaker 1: were even going overboard and saying, well, maybe they should
28:48
Speaker 1: use them on the parents, you know, And but I
28:51
Speaker 1: mean that's going overboard. But they were very supportive of
28:55
Speaker 1: the Omaha Police Department and what they do and say
28:58
Speaker 1: in parents, come on, you know you want your kids protected.
29:03
Speaker 1: We've done everything we can, from locking down the schools
29:07
Speaker 1: to you know, even talking about metal detectors. After there
29:10
Speaker 1: was some school shootings and other parts of the country
29:13
Speaker 1: that every student had to go through a metal detector
29:16
Speaker 1: every single morning. So there's all sorts of conversation about
29:20
Speaker 1: how we can make our school safer, and this is
29:22
Speaker 1: one of them.
29:23
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Geene, and I got this email. I got an
29:25
Speaker 2: email yesterday from Teresa, and help me out with the
29:28
Speaker 2: name here if I miss say it. This is a
29:31
Speaker 2: Facebook post from Raquel Henderson.
29:34
Speaker 1: Raquel Henderson is a woman that was hired as a
29:38
Speaker 1: community advocate I think in the Mayor's office and Raquel Henderson,
29:43
Speaker 1: I'm just going to say this. If I was mayor,
29:46
Speaker 1: she would have been gone a long time ago because
29:48
Speaker 1: she is putting out statements and I've seen them very
29:51
Speaker 1: anti police, and somebody working in the mayor's office should
29:55
Speaker 1: not be doing that, but go ahead.
29:56
Speaker 2: I think she is a community liaison for north in
30:00
Speaker 2: Northwest Omaha or something like that. But one thing I
30:02
Speaker 2: will say about Raquel Henderson is she has a very
30:05
Speaker 2: very tremendous personality. She's very very fun, very fun spirited.
30:10
Speaker 2: So she made a Facebook post and it went it
30:12
Speaker 2: was very long. This was Monday before the Omaha School
30:16
Speaker 2: Board meeting, and she said transparency is key. My goal
30:20
Speaker 2: is simply to make sure you have the information directly
30:23
Speaker 2: from the source. She goes on much further, but it says, first,
30:26
Speaker 2: this equipment was improved and implemented under Mayor Stotharts administration
30:31
Speaker 2: before Mayor Ewing took off.
30:32
Speaker 1: That's true.
30:33
Speaker 2: That's a fact.
30:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm proud of that. I'd do it again today.
30:36
Speaker 2: And then the last sentence is Mayor Ewing was made
30:39
Speaker 2: aware of the situation this past Friday. And I think
30:44
Speaker 2: that's a little bit gray, and I don't want to
30:46
Speaker 2: assume anything that's not true. What does that mean when
30:49
Speaker 2: he was just made aware of it? I'm not sure,
30:52
Speaker 2: but well, Teresa followed up with an email today saying,
30:55
Speaker 2: how could Mayor Superman not know about the gloves?
30:58
Speaker 1: Well, he should have, I mean he absolutely should have.
31:02
Speaker 1: And you know those gloves, like I said, they were,
31:05
Speaker 1: they were approved in by the city Council in June
31:09
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five, when Mayor Ewing had already run,
31:13
Speaker 1: you know, won the mayor's race going into office then,
31:17
Speaker 1: and you know he should know about the resource officers
31:20
Speaker 1: and to it's interesting to me and again I want
31:24
Speaker 1: your opinion, but it seems like if things are very,
31:28
Speaker 1: very positive, Marry Ewing will take credit and not mention
31:32
Speaker 1: my name. But if things go negative at all, you
31:36
Speaker 1: always hear from maryor Ewing or his staff. Well, this
31:39
Speaker 1: happened when Jeans Doth was mayor and you know, okay,
31:43
Speaker 1: so it did, Yes, it did. I mean I the
31:45
Speaker 1: city council voted on it. I signed off on it
31:48
Speaker 1: because it was veto proof. If you remember, it passed
31:51
Speaker 1: the shot gloves past seven ohimous unanimous. You can't you
31:55
Speaker 1: can't veto something. It only takes five to over ride
31:58
Speaker 1: a veto. But it was also voted on by four
32:01
Speaker 1: Democrats and three Republicans. It was a very nonpartisan vote,
32:05
Speaker 1: and so you know that is something that was past.
32:09
Speaker 1: Mary Ewing should be aware that they have those shot gloves.
32:12
Speaker 1: He always talks about being a former Omah police officer,
32:16
Speaker 1: so you know, be aware of what police officers are
32:21
Speaker 1: your police officers mayor are using.
32:23
Speaker 2: Jeane, like you mentioned as we were beginning the show,
32:26
Speaker 2: this is something that will continue to be in the news,
32:28
Speaker 2: probably for many many more days, weeks and months to come.
32:32
Speaker 2: This is the cafe be comment line with jeane'st author
32:34
Speaker 2: when we return. Gene, I think it's about time we
32:37
Speaker 2: talk about Kellogg.
32:38
Speaker 1: Let's do.
32:39
Speaker 2: My name is Peyton Hilock. Yesterday on The Big Show
32:42
Speaker 2: with Chris Baker, we had a special question for you, Gene.
32:46
Speaker 2: So I did my due diligence and I made sure
32:49
Speaker 2: I wrote it down. Okay, you had my mic off
32:51
Speaker 2: there for a minute, just for a second. Yay. This
32:54
Speaker 2: came from Bill yesterday afternoon on the Chris Baker Show.
32:57
Speaker 2: What did Jean do to try to keep Kellogg's there?
33:03
Speaker 1: Oh ho ho. I'm glad you asked that question. So
33:05
Speaker 1: first of all, I'm going to backtrack a little bit,
33:08
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to answer your question. Because when
33:10
Speaker 1: I first became mayor, I had a great relationship with Kellogg.
33:15
Speaker 1: Because at that time the administration there was an issue
33:19
Speaker 1: going on within the City of Omaha about the Combined
33:23
Speaker 1: Sewer Overflow project, the two billion dollar unfunded mandate by
33:28
Speaker 1: the federal government by the EPA to separate our sewer systems,
33:33
Speaker 1: the ones that were combined in Omaha, the sanitary from
33:35
Speaker 1: the storm water, and so the city was deciding on
33:39
Speaker 1: a five year rate ordinance increase based on how mud
33:45
Speaker 1: build people in the past, and what they were going
33:49
Speaker 1: to do to determine what extra amount of money residential
33:55
Speaker 1: businesses would pay. They determined it was going to be
33:58
Speaker 1: based on the amount of water that you use. The
34:02
Speaker 1: amount of water for people like Kellogg big water user,
34:07
Speaker 1: Skinner Baking, huge water user, all of the meat packing industry,
34:11
Speaker 1: big water users. It was going to drive them out
34:14
Speaker 1: of business if we charged them, and it's the city's charge.
34:18
Speaker 1: It just as a pass through to mud if it's
34:21
Speaker 1: based on the amount of water that they use. So
34:24
Speaker 1: we had a lot of negotiations with Kellogg, talked a
34:27
Speaker 1: lot about it, and we finally came to an agreement.
34:31
Speaker 1: We changed the way we charged for water for those
34:33
Speaker 1: big water users and residential and it's based on the
34:37
Speaker 1: size of the pipe that runs into the business or
34:40
Speaker 1: runs into the residential area. So I worked really hard
34:45
Speaker 1: with them because it could have run them out of
34:46
Speaker 1: town if they were just because they're big water users.
34:49
Speaker 1: So I worked a lot with them. Then the administration
34:53
Speaker 1: really changed they had in the past too. They had
34:55
Speaker 1: a really good lobbyist, her name was Julia Plucker. I
34:58
Speaker 1: worked with her a lot. An attorney out of Omaha
35:02
Speaker 1: does a great job with a lobbying so I had
35:04
Speaker 1: a real good relationship with them. Then they had a
35:06
Speaker 1: real change in administration and I just did not have
35:10
Speaker 1: any communication with them hardly at all anymore. In the past.
35:13
Speaker 1: I remember touring. I went out there and toured the
35:17
Speaker 1: Kellogg plant and it was amazing because it's like an
35:19
Speaker 1: operating room. It is the most sterile looking industrial place
35:24
Speaker 1: you've ever been in. I mean, to even walk through it,
35:26
Speaker 1: you have to wear a hair cover, a gown, shoe covers.
35:29
Speaker 1: You look like you have a hazmat outfit on. And
35:32
Speaker 1: all the workers do there too. But anyway, so I
35:35
Speaker 1: didn't have that much of communication communication with them, but
35:39
Speaker 1: there weren't any real problems. Now, keep in mind, in
35:44
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Dan Osborne led an eleven week strike
35:49
Speaker 1: at the factory here in Omaha. He said he was
35:52
Speaker 1: helping to negotiate better benefits and better salary. But that
35:55
Speaker 1: caused a problem. We know it did. But anyway, this
35:59
Speaker 1: is how Jeene Stothart found out that they were leaving,
36:03
Speaker 1: And this is shows you how the administration had changed here.
36:06
Speaker 1: They called the hotline. They called the hot line one morning.
36:11
Speaker 1: They didn't even call me and they said, hey, tell
36:14
Speaker 1: the mayor that of twenty twenty six, we're going to
36:17
Speaker 1: close our plant in Omaha and move out. And so
36:21
Speaker 1: both myself and the president of the Greater Omaha Chamber
36:25
Speaker 1: tried to reach out to them, tried to get meetings
36:28
Speaker 1: with them, tried to say, is there anything that we
36:31
Speaker 1: can do to prevent you all from moving? And the
36:36
Speaker 1: explanation that they gave us is that they were going
36:40
Speaker 1: to try to consolidate, you know, the usage of cereal
36:45
Speaker 1: and by the way, mine is redberries and frosted many ways.
36:48
Speaker 1: Just had to add that. But they said that they're
36:51
Speaker 1: you know, they were doing more protein drinks and things
36:53
Speaker 1: like that. But they wanted to invest more in four
36:57
Speaker 1: plants that they have in the country. Their main headquarter
37:00
Speaker 1: is in Battle Creek, Michigan. They were going to put
37:03
Speaker 1: more development into Battle Creek, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, and Ontario. Those
37:08
Speaker 1: are the ones I remembered that they told us about.
37:11
Speaker 1: Omaha was their biggest plant though, and so was still
37:14
Speaker 1: a head scratcher why they would close their biggest plant
37:17
Speaker 1: in the country and try to invest more in those
37:20
Speaker 1: other four. Although Battle Creek, Michigan is their headquarter, and
37:24
Speaker 1: they just said the business had changed, their demands had changed,
37:29
Speaker 1: they had to stay competitive with other manufacturers of cereal,
37:34
Speaker 1: and so this is the decision that they made and
37:36
Speaker 1: that they were done. There was no negotiating, They were
37:40
Speaker 1: not going to talk to us. They said it had
37:42
Speaker 1: been done. Period. It's kind of like what happened with
37:46
Speaker 1: ConAgra in my opinion, that the decision was made. I
37:50
Speaker 1: know that Chamber and Heath Mellow continued to try to
37:54
Speaker 1: negotiate with them and say, if the decision has been
37:57
Speaker 1: made for you to leave, would you please not just
38:02
Speaker 1: close that plant and walk away and leave that massive
38:05
Speaker 1: plant there where it is on ninety six in f Street,
38:10
Speaker 1: Because you know, Kellogg has been here for eighty four
38:13
Speaker 1: years in Omaha. It started operation in nineteen forty two
38:18
Speaker 1: in the city of Omaha, and there were a lot
38:20
Speaker 1: of workers that are in Omaha that lost their job.
38:24
Speaker 1: I did make a statement, put out a statement when
38:26
Speaker 1: we found out that they were leaving, and I just
38:29
Speaker 1: said that Kellogg would leave a big void. And I
38:32
Speaker 1: remember saying that my first concern would be the Kellogg
38:35
Speaker 1: employees and helping them find other employment within this area.
38:41
Speaker 1: We did the exact same thing by working with the
38:43
Speaker 1: Greater Oma Chamber of Commerce. When Knanagra decided to move
38:47
Speaker 1: their headquarter.
38:48
Speaker 2: I heard it was about four hundred and fifty one workers,
38:51
Speaker 2: give or take that. It's an approximation. But Geen, just
38:54
Speaker 2: as we're wrapping up the show here, it sounds like
38:57
Speaker 2: they were pretty much their minds made up totally. Obviously,
39:02
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit of the sewer project was a
39:04
Speaker 2: small piece of that puzzle. But in hindsight, is there
39:07
Speaker 2: anything that you look back on and think that might
39:09
Speaker 2: have changed the outcome or do you think they were
39:11
Speaker 2: just dead set on moving out.
39:13
Speaker 1: No, I think they were dead set on moving out.
39:15
Speaker 1: I mean they are a business, like I said, they
39:17
Speaker 1: just they explained to me that the business and has
39:20
Speaker 1: demanded changes within the industry. They had to stay competitive.
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Speaker 1: They really want to. They won't sell it to competitors.
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Speaker 1: I've heard, right, And they and they wanted to just
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Speaker 1: concentrate on these four other plants that I just mentioned, Michigan, Tennessee, Pennsylvania,
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Speaker 1: and Ontario. And I we did not understand with Omaha
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Speaker 1: being the biggest plant, and it was a very nice
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Speaker 1: plant and employed a lot of people, and you know,
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Speaker 1: their decision had been made. There was no talking them
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Speaker 1: out of it. So then, like I said, the Chamber
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Speaker 1: kind of switched gears and said, well, can you at
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Speaker 1: least work with us on helping these employees stay find employment,
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Speaker 1: and can you at least help us with not just
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Speaker 1: leaving a big bandon factory sitting on ninety six in
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Speaker 1: f Street. And you know, it seemed like we weren't
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Speaker 1: making much headway with them. They weren't. They weren't. They
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Speaker 1: weren't as communicative as the original administration was here. I
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Speaker 1: think more that the water issue was solved. I think
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Speaker 1: it a lot. With the strike that went on in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one made a big difference too.
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 1: And that is it for us today. I want to
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Speaker 1: thank you all for spending this hour with us. We'd
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Speaker 1: love for you to join us again tomorrow. Douglas County
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Speaker 1: Sheriff Aaron Hanson will be here in the studio and
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Speaker 1: love for you to be here with us. So I again,
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