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- 0:01Speaker 1: The volume.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Club five twenty. Welcome to the crew. Man, appreciate y'all
- 0:09Speaker 2: coming in.
- 0:09Speaker 1: I appreciate your having us, Man, appreciate y'all having us.
- 0:13Speaker 1: This is your time. Man, I appreciate you here.
- 0:15Speaker 3: Man.
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- 0:18Speaker 1: gotta tap in. No mid the Pigley Willie what you
- 0:24Speaker 1: gotta tap in. So I appreciate your hospitality, Appreciate.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Your having us, man, and your show's dope. Appreciate yo,
- 0:31Speaker 2: elleg man, how y'all come up with Club five twenty?
- 0:33Speaker 1: What's what's what's? What does it mean?
- 0:35Speaker 4: Uh? Well, I guess I could say it. I got
- 0:40Speaker 4: like a little miniature club in my basement at my house.
- 0:42Speaker 4: Everybody Indianapolis probably no, you know, listen, it's cheap to
- 0:49Speaker 4: live here.
- 0:51Speaker 1: That's while they're here. But now I got a minature
- 0:53Speaker 1: club in my house.
- 0:54Speaker 4: And we had a night one night and it's a
- 0:57Speaker 4: sign of my house that says Club five twenty. And
- 1:00Speaker 4: it just all kind of happened like that. We was
- 1:01Speaker 4: in the moment and he's like, man, just call it
- 1:03Speaker 4: Club five twenty.
- 1:04Speaker 1: And that's how it came about.
- 1:06Speaker 2: And now the All Star Games here, you played the
- 1:08Speaker 2: All Star Game. For sure, I didn't.
- 1:10Speaker 1: We ain't got to worry about like LA out here,
- 1:12Speaker 1: man be going in your pockets out in LA with
- 1:14Speaker 1: an All Stars. They got to going to We did
- 1:17Speaker 1: to tell you when the All Star was the nl
- 1:18Speaker 1: A when we first got in the league out here.
- 1:21Speaker 4: Everything get you into l A, I forgot to do
- 1:23Speaker 4: and they tell you to watch out for you get
- 1:24Speaker 4: your chain and everything.
- 1:25Speaker 1: But you magic there, you go go get all your
- 1:29Speaker 1: LA all Stars were coming up that everybody watch out
- 1:32Speaker 1: for them. Boys when you go to l A have
- 1:34Speaker 1: to worry about things. I don't have to worry about.
- 1:38Speaker 1: But here we we love. We love stuff like this.
- 1:40Speaker 1: So we love stars.
- 1:41Speaker 4: We love seeing people and we like want there and
- 1:44Speaker 4: want of them, like have them here. We love embracing
- 1:46Speaker 4: people when they come to the city. You walking around
- 1:48Speaker 4: the city, they're gonna go.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Correct, they gonna get out their car, they gonna stop. Yeah,
- 1:53Speaker 1: that's that's how it is.
- 1:54Speaker 2: I guarantee when they say, hey, Pickley Wiggily, you thought
- 1:56Speaker 2: for a second, like damn sure go to Pickli Whigy.
- 1:58Speaker 1: You thought about it. How love y'all know each other?
- 2:05Speaker 4: I joined their podcast really because they had their they
- 2:08Speaker 4: invited me on one time, and I had a ball
- 2:11Speaker 4: now and I was done hooping.
- 2:12Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, let's do that.
- 2:13Speaker 4: I asked him to do a shoe podcast, and then
- 2:16Speaker 4: it just all kind of happened because I know him.
- 2:18Speaker 4: Me and him been fooling forever. Yeah, we'd be outside
- 2:24Speaker 4: and me and him went to high school together. So like,
- 2:26Speaker 4: it's all just kind of happened atually high school. You coach, right, yeah,
- 2:32Speaker 4: bigger than the All Star game. We got a big
- 2:34Speaker 4: game tonight.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Don't talk about that game. We got a big game night,
- 2:38Speaker 1: Jeff Papavich, No big game.
- 2:42Speaker 4: Just start calling me that coach starts rough right now,
- 2:49Speaker 4: right now. It's listen, Nah, I do coach high school basketball,
- 2:53Speaker 4: and I coached my old high school and it's been great,
- 2:57Speaker 4: but we're sad as hell. Hold on so much. Pops
- 3:00Speaker 4: is your assistant coach, Yeah, my little brother's assistant. And
- 3:05Speaker 4: then all my homeboys from high school that played on
- 3:07Speaker 4: that team with me. We're just trying to bring it back.
- 3:09Speaker 4: That's love team any good? Hell no, I keep it real.
- 3:14Speaker 4: We're not good like well you So this is year one, Yes.
- 3:17Speaker 3: Your one.
- 3:18Speaker 1: I gotta go out and recruit you. Know that's coming.
- 3:21Speaker 1: All right, Hey, next year, I want to play for you. Blocked.
- 3:27Speaker 4: They blocked a lot of stuff, but we go get
- 3:29Speaker 4: it done this year. I'm trying to be Mike Miller.
- 3:33Speaker 4: I'm an agent right now. You know how I Mike
- 3:35Speaker 4: get it done.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying I coached high school one year. Oh yeah,
- 3:39Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, really you know how you got it done?
- 3:43Speaker 3: Right?
- 3:44Speaker 1: Yes?
- 3:44Speaker 2: It was a coach and all the best players I had. Listen,
- 3:48Speaker 2: who is tell you my added I've always said it.
- 3:50Speaker 2: He Brown was the smartest one I've ever seen.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Excell.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Those give me Jimmy's and Joe's. Yeah, I ain't got
- 3:54Speaker 2: to be a great coach that want to work.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Who was on your team?
- 3:57Speaker 2: My son, Nice Wed, the kid that went to uh
- 4:02Speaker 2: Drell Colbert who's now at Kansas State, Nice Mad and
- 4:05Speaker 2: No Weel who just committed to the Yukon.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Yeah, my son's at Creighton.
- 4:09Speaker 3: Yep.
- 4:10Speaker 2: I had another kid that walked on at Creighton's Andrew Yates.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, listen, I had a whip. It wasn't
- 4:15Speaker 2: coaching j Mattlocke, who's really good playing for his dad
- 4:18Speaker 2: in college. We had five divisional players and.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Now let's ask where my kids are going. Yeah, but
- 4:22Speaker 1: y'all do it the right way though that they need help.
- 4:24Speaker 1: These kids need help.
- 4:25Speaker 2: My biggest thing of the reason I did it was
- 4:27Speaker 2: selfishly for my kids, but like they need to learn
- 4:30Speaker 2: what it's like when you go to college. No one cares,
- 4:32Speaker 2: like it's not about that no more. It's about the
- 4:34Speaker 2: routines and the grinds and getting better like these are. Like,
- 4:37Speaker 2: it's it's a different now because people are you know,
- 4:39Speaker 2: the transferport all. We talked about it over one of
- 4:42Speaker 2: our podcasts. It's softening these guys up a little bit,
- 4:44Speaker 2: but they need some really, Like I ain't got the
- 4:46Speaker 2: patience for them.
- 4:46Speaker 1: I know you don't. I can't do it. I know
- 4:48Speaker 1: you don't. I can't. It's hard.
- 4:50Speaker 4: So can we asked you some questions since we're talking
- 4:52Speaker 4: about college and going there, so we're here. I both
- 4:55Speaker 4: went to Florida. Yes, I had a chance to play
- 4:57Speaker 4: with a Gator myself. I got to play with Al
- 4:59Speaker 4: Horford two buddy, Yeah, that's my guy.
- 5:03Speaker 1: But wild Florida Wild Billy d I mean for me,
- 5:09Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I wanted to stay close
- 5:10Speaker 1: to home. I ain't never been nowhere far. So I
- 5:12Speaker 1: went to stay close to home and my homeboy went
- 5:13Speaker 1: to US Brent Wright to my high school. So the
- 5:17Speaker 1: way it was set up was Anthony Grant was from Miami.
- 5:19Speaker 1: He went to my high school as well. He was
- 5:21Speaker 1: assistant coach at Florida. So Anthony grat from over town
- 5:23Speaker 1: in front of the hood. So I had a relationship
- 5:25Speaker 1: with Coach Grant already. So for me, it was just
- 5:28Speaker 1: more so trust. When you come from where we come from,
- 5:30Speaker 1: you don't trust too many people, trust nobody. So I
- 5:32Speaker 1: actually had somebody in the college atmosphere that I trusted
- 5:35Speaker 1: and it was a black man, you know what I'm saying.
- 5:37Speaker 1: So it was somebody who I looked up to. Obviously,
- 5:38Speaker 1: he went to my high school, so it was history there.
- 5:41Speaker 1: And I just didn't want to go nowhere where with Snow.
- 5:43Speaker 1: I ain't never seen Snow. I didn't want to go
- 5:44Speaker 1: nowhere coach this week, my boy here. I just needed
- 5:49Speaker 1: the money. Chan I love, I love Chen to be
- 5:57Speaker 1: honest with.
- 5:58Speaker 2: For me, I they had a believable team already coming in,
- 6:01Speaker 2: Like we had a top three recruiting class in the
- 6:04Speaker 2: country led by these dudes, you know what I mean.
- 6:06Speaker 2: And and so it came down to uh, for me,
- 6:08Speaker 2: it was Kansas, Kentucky and Florida. And at that time,
- 6:11Speaker 2: Florida didn't have it or hadn't done what Kansas Kentucky did.
- 6:14Speaker 1: I want to do something different. I've always been that way.
- 6:16Speaker 2: And then when I saw these dudes that were going there,
- 6:18Speaker 2: it was like, all right, we got a chance to
- 6:19Speaker 2: come in here and do something else. So it was
- 6:21Speaker 2: it was dope and Coach Donovan was we had young.
- 6:24Speaker 2: We had a real young group. We're coming in. Billy
- 6:26Speaker 2: loved Mike.
- 6:27Speaker 1: We come. It was me and my me and my
- 6:30Speaker 1: homeboys coming, all us coming to office one day. Look
- 6:32Speaker 1: what you started. It's three of us, me, my homeboy Brent,
- 6:36Speaker 1: and my homeboy Major Park. Of God. That's did MP
- 6:38Speaker 1: passed away from a heart attack. We walked in the office. Billy,
- 6:40Speaker 1: see me and me and my homeboy. Hey Brent, Hey Mike?
- 6:43Speaker 1: Hey you do how you doing?
- 6:44Speaker 5: Hey?
- 6:44Speaker 1: What's up? Coach Mike walk into office right after goddamn,
- 6:51Speaker 1: we just so you was a chosen one. Yeah what
- 6:53Speaker 1: Oh y'all had what's my glasses? Chosen? What's my god?
- 6:58Speaker 3: Oh?
- 6:58Speaker 4: You had the third person when that came in with y'all.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Oh, he was way better than Mike. He got bucket stuff,
- 7:07Speaker 1: way better than Mike. He told what he told Mike.
- 7:09Speaker 1: He told me you ran high. To me, I'm way
- 7:11Speaker 1: better than you. He was crazy at high school. That
- 7:14Speaker 1: nice shoot up.
- 7:16Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched the documentary about him, like maybe two
- 7:20Speaker 4: weeks ago.
- 7:21Speaker 1: He was going crazy. What do you average? Forty? Yes, yes,
- 7:24Speaker 1: he broke. He brought the stage scoring right now. He'll
- 7:26Speaker 1: have me one of the playoff games. That's crazy. No, listen,
- 7:29Speaker 1: he could shoot a half courts like a regular ship.
- 7:32Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He was little, he gave,
- 7:35Speaker 1: but he believed in himself. Brother.
- 7:37Speaker 3: I got a question, bro.
- 7:38Speaker 1: So that I went to the ship first, Michigan State
- 7:43Speaker 1: versus is that six seventeen Joe.
- 7:47Speaker 3: That's a good question.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Saw on the way over here, I got that's a rap.
- 7:56Speaker 1: I mean they are too They're nice. They're nice. They
- 7:59Speaker 1: was nice. They were nice. They I mean they went
- 8:02Speaker 1: back to back. They was good. I mean I had
- 8:04Speaker 1: the opportunity the first after they won the first championship,
- 8:06Speaker 1: I had the opportunity Coach Donovan and had me come
- 8:08Speaker 1: out to Gainesville, and uh, I did catch a couple
- 8:10Speaker 1: of games when they came down to Miami. But I
- 8:11Speaker 1: had the opportunity to talk to Alan Joe and I
- 8:14Speaker 1: told him I think they should stay in school. And
- 8:16Speaker 1: that's when they came back and one another one. But
- 8:18Speaker 1: talent wise, they were good enough to go already. But
- 8:21Speaker 1: my my thing was, this was the best four years
- 8:23Speaker 1: my life. You ain't gonna get this back when you leave.
- 8:26Speaker 1: The NBA ain't going nowhere, and God's willing y'all don't
- 8:28Speaker 1: get hurt. Y'all gonna make your money. You know what
- 8:30Speaker 1: I'm saying, y'all can make it. That's the wrong Gator
- 8:32Speaker 1: because I told get your ass up.
- 8:34Speaker 4: Yeah, actually, Joe here you number one pick right?
- 8:38Speaker 1: Yeah? He was God damn you do you get bad advice? Bro?
- 8:42Speaker 1: They still but they still got that got it done.
- 8:44Speaker 2: I got it and hinst you were right? Like to
- 8:46Speaker 2: go back to back championships?
- 8:48Speaker 1: Who go back to who goes back to back? Legend?
- 8:51Speaker 4: That's what about college's leg What about they didn't though,
- 8:54Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, What about Joe Kean would have
- 8:56Speaker 4: came back?
- 8:56Speaker 1: I got it, but I got it. I got I
- 8:58Speaker 1: gotta believe that. Look, I gotta believe that little party
- 9:00Speaker 1: speech three to put the boys Joe al and Corey
- 9:03Speaker 1: Brewer top ten weren't there. Yeah, that was pretty elite.
- 9:06Speaker 6: Man.
- 9:07Speaker 4: I don't know what win thirteen I think did he
- 9:10Speaker 4: he got? Yeah, he was went from like, yeah, he's
- 9:12Speaker 4: a lottery picked.
- 9:13Speaker 1: I don't really be knowing when people get drafted because
- 9:15Speaker 1: I ain't Indiana. So Greg and Mike in the I
- 9:19Speaker 1: Want you got a little sour puss up. I wanted
- 9:22Speaker 1: a little so bad. Was hated on us like that, man,
- 9:25Speaker 1: what Mike and Greg from here? Hey bro? And they
- 9:28Speaker 1: were how crazy is that? Man?
- 9:30Speaker 2: That sucks for Greg Olden to man? Because I was
- 9:33Speaker 2: actually just talking aboutcause Mike Conley was my rookie in
- 9:35Speaker 2: Memphis and to see where he's done and how he's
- 9:38Speaker 2: still doing it.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Like, but Greg Olden was that dude, nice guy, nice guy.
- 9:43Speaker 1: I hung out with that man one night. I said,
- 9:45Speaker 1: never again, man, Carl for Trinity to Hennessy, Yeah, I said, no,
- 9:52Speaker 1: that's that's one night that. Yeah, let's get some of
- 9:57Speaker 1: this for Trinity. I said, here's that Hennessy and Patron,
- 10:00Speaker 1: I say, I don't even go together. I sounded like
- 10:04Speaker 1: like yeah, time outside the pretendity though Mike Conley was
- 10:07Speaker 1: too though. Yeah, to play them. We had to play
- 10:11Speaker 1: them my high school.
- 10:12Speaker 4: Yeah really, and my high school was really good, Like
- 10:14Speaker 4: we probably had like five or six Division one players
- 10:16Speaker 4: on our team.
- 10:17Speaker 1: They played together in high school too, right, They beat.
- 10:19Speaker 5: Us every year, so we couldn't go to Guess tonight.
- 10:21Speaker 5: They went to Lords North.
- 10:22Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a big robbery since they Yeah, and Greg
- 10:26Speaker 4: and Mike was the same people they are now.
- 10:27Speaker 1: Greg, Ohio State's n IL package back in the day
- 10:30Speaker 1: must been least. I know y'all got paid.
- 10:32Speaker 4: I've been trying to ask Greg for the longest, man,
- 10:34Speaker 4: how much I gave you?
- 10:35Speaker 1: Man? For? Really? They were about to go to Wake Forest?
- 10:37Speaker 1: Can you believe that? I was about to ask you?
- 10:39Speaker 1: Why wait Forest for you? My mom, I'm gonna keep
- 10:42Speaker 1: it real. Yeah, how the hell did you get out
- 10:44Speaker 1: of here to wake for? I was going to Indiana?
- 10:46Speaker 4: Yeah, Eric Gordon Trance uh decommitted from Illinois to go
- 10:50Speaker 4: to Indiana.
- 10:52Speaker 1: But his bag was bigger than mine. So my mom
- 10:56Speaker 1: was like, every everybody got paid, but us, You a
- 10:59Speaker 1: goddamn live of us, my ass. Don't you do that?
- 11:02Speaker 1: Don't you do that? Because I tell it. Go ahead.
- 11:05Speaker 1: I don't remember who.
- 11:08Speaker 4: The coach was like, call it on coaches out, but yeah,
- 11:12Speaker 4: my mom was like, if we're gonna go somewhere they
- 11:13Speaker 4: actually care about you, So what to wait for it?
- 11:16Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I'm gonna tell it. You know you ain't
- 11:19Speaker 1: gonna got time today. All right. We sitting in the room.
- 11:22Speaker 1: We had a we had a road game. Listen, knock
- 11:25Speaker 1: on the door. You know you got to share rooms
- 11:29Speaker 1: in college that we got these little double beds. So
- 11:32Speaker 1: I'm just laying on the bed. Knock on the door.
- 11:33Speaker 1: That's my roommate. He get up, he go to the door.
- 11:36Speaker 1: No words, nobody say nothing, complete silence. Remember the old
- 11:40Speaker 1: school tooth brush holders. You put the tooth brush in
- 11:42Speaker 1: and you open it up. That came back in the room,
- 11:46Speaker 1: had a tooth brush holder, opened the up. The mother
- 11:48Speaker 1: full of money. I say, Jack, I don't want to
- 11:50Speaker 1: know where you got it from. But cut me in
- 11:51Speaker 1: or cut it out. Listen, I don't want it. It's
- 11:54Speaker 1: none of my business it came from. I don't care.
- 11:56Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Sometimes people get killed for information,
- 11:58Speaker 1: so keep yourself. But all you gotta cut me in
- 12:01Speaker 1: a couple of duckies in the lines. Bro Lie lie listen,
- 12:05Speaker 1: I ain't hurting the home man. To this day, I
- 12:08Speaker 1: still don't know who dropped that. He ain't told me
- 12:11Speaker 1: nothing one which one. Let me hear it.
- 12:14Speaker 4: Listen, man, you trying. I ain't trying to incriminate nobody.
- 12:16Speaker 4: Listen who These people still got jobs?
- 12:19Speaker 1: Man, man, listen, Hey, I'm have many stories like this,
- 12:26Speaker 1: and it man something Now it's just it is what
- 12:28Speaker 1: it is. I ain't gonnall that. The little bit of
- 12:30Speaker 1: crumbs that you had in that two person holder, you
- 12:32Speaker 1: might couldn't have been that much because through this big
- 12:35Speaker 1: getting stacks in the posits. Now, it ain't like Dione
- 12:40Speaker 1: say fifty thousand, walk on, get to that. I want
- 12:43Speaker 1: to hear the story though. That's what.
- 12:45Speaker 4: So I go to I go to a school with
- 12:48Speaker 4: my assistant coach from high school. He takes me up
- 12:50Speaker 4: there we in the room, he talking and the coach
- 12:54Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I got some gear for you, but
- 12:56Speaker 4: let me go out.
- 12:56Speaker 1: I gotta go real quick.
- 12:57Speaker 4: He lead a room. Were looking at through the gear.
- 12:59Speaker 4: Get the it's like fifty thousand. I look at my coach.
- 13:03Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, like and my heart beating fast. I
- 13:06Speaker 4: ain't never had no money, so I'm looking at I'm like, coach,
- 13:09Speaker 4: he really ain't had no money.
- 13:11Speaker 1: He liked you coming here and what hey, I don't
- 13:15Speaker 1: know my mama, and it was like my mama.
- 13:17Speaker 4: He's like, no, it's where you need to be. So
- 13:19Speaker 4: I'm like, So he looked at me. He was like,
- 13:21Speaker 4: they ain't gonna tell on this man.
- 13:23Speaker 1: He took.
- 13:24Speaker 4: He took about and I took about ten thousand. I'm like,
- 13:28Speaker 4: I'm scared, like.
- 13:28Speaker 1: They ain't gonna tell me. He's like, what they gonna do?
- 13:30Speaker 1: Tell on where they care? He was, I'm gonna give
- 13:32Speaker 1: you a thousand when we get in the car.
- 13:34Speaker 4: And when I got older, I started thinking about like
- 13:36Speaker 4: this bump assn you know you gave me a thousand, thousand.
- 13:40Speaker 1: The whole other forty nine. I still I see it
- 13:42Speaker 1: the other day. I'm still mad at him about that.
- 13:44Speaker 1: He's gonna work for me, nowing he gave me a thousand,
- 13:48Speaker 1: real real su night.
- 13:51Speaker 4: Definitely did risk my ability for him, but it's my pops.
- 13:58Speaker 1: I didn't take no visits. I committed to Florida early.
- 14:00Speaker 1: God blessed that my pots passed away to me for
- 14:03Speaker 1: two weeks because I committed to Florida where you wanted
- 14:05Speaker 1: you go, she wanted a back, came home with no money. Jack,
- 14:10Speaker 1: you ain't even tried. You just committed early. It just
- 14:12Speaker 1: stuck with that. My PAP's like, you ain't going it,
- 14:13Speaker 1: so you ain't gonna take the more visits. You don't
- 14:15Speaker 1: want to look at nothing else. You don't want to
- 14:16Speaker 1: try nothing else. Now I'm here, That's why I want
- 14:18Speaker 1: to go. Get speak to me. For two weeks? Did
- 14:21Speaker 1: Miami recruiting? Yeah, everybody recruited. You're absolutely right. One of
- 14:28Speaker 1: my boys, BB Walton b B. No, you got boy,
- 14:30Speaker 1: you got it, got it. You remember you ain't what
- 14:34Speaker 1: made Florida though, Like like I said, it was just
- 14:36Speaker 1: a pipeline. It was a pipeline. Like I said, Anthony
- 14:39Speaker 1: Grant the university. It went to Miami High with my
- 14:41Speaker 1: high school Andy from the hood. That's way you no
- 14:44Speaker 1: way the money couldn't get you. Nah, man, I was grim.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Was a hard coach though, but he don't play.
- 14:49Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:50Speaker 4: I had some dudes that went to Mount Verb was
- 14:52Speaker 4: getting recruited by him.
- 14:55Speaker 1: He said he don't play.
- 14:56Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's you though. Yeah, we needed that. I've
- 14:58Speaker 4: seen you. We needed doing them heat games.
- 15:01Speaker 2: So you confrontational with the mon that's what That's what
- 15:06Speaker 2: he's here for.
- 15:06Speaker 1: What you all he wants. You don't want this. You
- 15:08Speaker 1: don't want to what. I'm competitive. I played with Jimmy Butler,
- 15:13Speaker 1: I'm competitive.
- 15:14Speaker 3: Here we go.
- 15:14Speaker 1: I seen I played with Jimmy and Jimmy, My guy.
- 15:16Speaker 1: I love Jimmy.
- 15:17Speaker 4: You one of the few people I've seen go at
- 15:20Speaker 4: Jimmy like how you went at Jimmy.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Me and Jimmy speak the same language, though, y'all do
- 15:25Speaker 1: we speak the same language, dude. The next day, me
- 15:27Speaker 1: and Jimmy was drinking coffee plant dominoes. I can see that.
- 15:30Speaker 1: Ever happened, you know what I'm saying, It was, Oh,
- 15:32Speaker 1: we know how he is growing up in the hood,
- 15:34Speaker 1: fight with your homeboy, and the next day y'all have
- 15:36Speaker 1: the part playing basketball together overwhere you move on? Now.
- 15:39Speaker 4: That's I always love that about y'all, Like your team.
- 15:42Speaker 4: It's like y'all could talk to each other on the court,
- 15:44Speaker 4: Like even when Brown was there, I used to hear
- 15:46Speaker 4: y'all yelling at.
- 15:46Speaker 1: Each other like we got him, so we got him.
- 15:50Speaker 1: The next thing, I know, clapping hand, that's what it
- 15:53Speaker 1: was in Atlanta in the playoffs. Had you talking about that?
- 16:00Speaker 1: Why not talk about it? Let's talk about about it.
- 16:02Speaker 1: Thought you had ever thought we was? When I played.
- 16:04Speaker 4: I remember one year we thought we was gonna be
- 16:06Speaker 4: I remember we had got Jamal Crawford.
- 16:08Speaker 1: I think it was so cool. But first and second crazy.
- 16:13Speaker 4: We thought we was gonna beat the Bulls and we
- 16:15Speaker 4: was gonna get to you guys, and we got them.
- 16:16Speaker 4: We match up well and we got Joe, we got Josh,
- 16:19Speaker 4: we got Al for the forwards.
- 16:21Speaker 1: I remember that.
- 16:22Speaker 4: I was like, Mario came with me. That's how we
- 16:24Speaker 4: felt like.
- 16:27Speaker 1: We're good. Mario, I know, I love it. I love real.
- 16:32Speaker 1: I just said, that's my dog, repetitive. But then we
- 16:37Speaker 1: ran into d Rose m v P year.
- 16:40Speaker 4: That's different. Didn't count on him. We had forgot man.
- 16:45Speaker 4: He lit us up, bro I was guing him worse.
- 16:49Speaker 1: I'm the lead it there. That's that's that's the thing
- 16:52Speaker 1: that sucks about this league.
- 16:53Speaker 3: Man.
- 16:53Speaker 2: It's like you see the Rose people forget how unbelievable
- 16:57Speaker 2: he was. Crazy, legend, legend, legend. Listen, it was hell
- 17:01Speaker 2: guard now Man had show blitz track lead though every
- 17:05Speaker 2: Sure Bulls team is elite. We thought we was gonna
- 17:08Speaker 2: beat them to get to y'all.
- 17:09Speaker 1: We forgot. I'm like, what the hell? Yeah, y'all forgot
- 17:12Speaker 1: about them.
- 17:12Speaker 2: That the number one see, yeah, they were the number
- 17:15Speaker 2: one see the year that was record ship.
- 17:17Speaker 1: But we dropped off too, though, yes we did.
- 17:19Speaker 2: It really didn't that the East was nasty back then
- 17:22Speaker 2: because Indiana was good.
- 17:24Speaker 5: As a Pacer fan, I gotta talk about this, you
- 17:26Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I understood. You know what I'm saying.
- 17:28Speaker 5: Y'all won those serious? But I would like you all
- 17:31Speaker 5: to speak like, how was those serious? Because like those
- 17:32Speaker 5: were really good series. I know it's the Pacers. People
- 17:34Speaker 5: don't talk about a lot, but that Pacers heat, especially
- 17:36Speaker 5: for those two years, that was a real robber.
- 17:39Speaker 1: Like y'all, that was a really good basketball series. Listen.
- 17:41Speaker 1: That was honestly who we worried about every year we
- 17:46Speaker 1: worried about the paces we did. It was always they
- 17:49Speaker 1: was always like one or two. We were one or
- 17:51Speaker 1: two and then you had Boston in there. You know
- 17:53Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But we always worried about the paces.
- 17:55Speaker 1: David West, big Ass, Roy Hibbert, Paul George. Yeah, like
- 18:03Speaker 1: we did worry about them, and the first time we
- 18:05Speaker 1: beat them, we had home court advantage. So we kept
- 18:07Speaker 1: reading in the paper that they were saying, next year,
- 18:09Speaker 1: if they have home court, they can win it. They
- 18:10Speaker 1: have home court. All we needed is home court. So
- 18:12Speaker 1: that Thuck and I had that. Thuck and I had
- 18:14Speaker 1: the whole season. So next year they got what they wanted.
- 18:16Speaker 1: They got number one seed and we had number two,
- 18:19Speaker 1: and they got home court. And we made it personal
- 18:21Speaker 1: because we had just remembered that they were saying that.
- 18:24Speaker 1: It made it seem like the only reason we won
- 18:25Speaker 1: because we had home court. If we would have had
- 18:27Speaker 1: home court, we would have won. Next year we get
- 18:28Speaker 1: home court, we're gonna win. Okay, now y'all got home court.
- 18:30Speaker 1: Now what y'all gonna do? Y'all team was cheating though,
- 18:34Speaker 1: Let's keep it real. No. I remember when bron came
- 18:37Speaker 1: to Miami.
- 18:40Speaker 4: Everybody was like the week, I ain't gonna lie the week,
- 18:43Speaker 4: don't I didn't give if. I was in my third year,
- 18:46Speaker 4: I was like, I don't care. I just want to hoop.
- 18:48Speaker 4: I'm trying to get paid.
- 18:50Speaker 1: But I hear. I remember Joe.
- 18:51Speaker 4: I was at Joe Johnson House and he was just like,
- 18:54Speaker 4: why would they do this?
- 18:56Speaker 1: He's like, man, bron weak for that. Damn.
- 19:00Speaker 4: When I got older and I seen KD do it
- 19:03Speaker 4: and I was like, wow, we but when y'all came
- 19:08Speaker 4: together that it was crazy and I thought you was leaving.
- 19:11Speaker 1: I was hyped as hell. I was going to leave.
- 19:13Speaker 1: I was hyping. I'm like, they ain't got the glue.
- 19:14Speaker 1: I was.
- 19:15Speaker 4: They ain't got nobody, ain't had no money. I know him,
- 19:19Speaker 4: but you got it back. See how you're blaming for
- 19:21Speaker 4: everything him, but.
- 19:21Speaker 5: You always get forgetting money and I you know what
- 19:23Speaker 5: I'm saying, still get the money man.
- 19:25Speaker 1: Yeah. What I would say about that team is we
- 19:29Speaker 1: all had to go through a process of nobody want
- 19:31Speaker 1: to step on each other, toad. Everybody wanted to make
- 19:34Speaker 1: everybody feel comfortable. We had that that training camp on
- 19:37Speaker 1: the Army base. I think that's when Broun went at
- 19:40Speaker 1: d Way, d Way, when that Broun I went at
- 19:42Speaker 1: c B. Everybody went at each other, And I think
- 19:44Speaker 1: that kind of helps me because.
- 19:45Speaker 4: I really hate each o'all. Then though, because I had
- 19:47Speaker 4: that on TV, he had TV. I was watching. I
- 19:50Speaker 4: was like, damn, brother.
- 19:52Speaker 1: Remember the Titans.
- 19:52Speaker 3: Bro.
- 19:53Speaker 1: When I ain't gonna say I hated y'all.
- 19:54Speaker 4: I hated Norris Cole and Mario Chalmers because I was like, damn,
- 19:58Speaker 4: and I think Pat bad was. I was like, they lucky,
- 20:01Speaker 4: you know, like, but I didn't know, like be honest
- 20:05Speaker 4: to real on them, their job was probably harder.
- 20:08Speaker 1: Oh. D Wade said this to me not too long ago.
- 20:11Speaker 1: He said, I didn't realize how hard your job was.
- 20:13Speaker 1: A guy that comes into the game and not knowing
- 20:15Speaker 1: how many shots of where he's gonna get his shots from,
- 20:17Speaker 1: but you gotta be ready. He's like, I never really
- 20:19Speaker 1: thought about how hard it was to be in your position.
- 20:21Speaker 1: He's like me, I know I'm gonna get my shots.
- 20:22Speaker 1: I'm gonna get whatever I want. I'm gonna do whatever
- 20:24Speaker 1: I want. It's like, I never thought about how hard
- 20:26Speaker 1: it is for a guy that don't know where the
- 20:27Speaker 1: shots coming from, don't know when they gonna get them,
- 20:29Speaker 1: to still be ready, Like I thought about this the
- 20:31Speaker 1: other days, Like that most messed up.
- 20:33Speaker 2: Part about our jobs really was that, Like everyone say, sacrifice,
- 20:36Speaker 2: sacrifice is cute, man, if you know what the results
- 20:38Speaker 2: gonna be, you don't know what the results gonna be.
- 20:40Speaker 1: You sacrificed for nothing.
- 20:43Speaker 2: The biggest he did Chris Bosh had a big one
- 20:47Speaker 2: for sure, because what great in Toronto?
- 20:50Speaker 3: Toronto?
- 20:51Speaker 1: But give it.
- 20:52Speaker 2: But but if his health doesn't, if he doesn't do up,
- 20:54Speaker 2: give the clods though, like what they did for him there,
- 20:56Speaker 2: or to extend his career forever because he never shot
- 20:58Speaker 2: three he came. Yes, Poe was so ahead of that
- 21:01Speaker 2: that the small ball, Like I'm telling you, c B,
- 21:04Speaker 2: if you stayed healthy, would have been still be playing.
- 21:06Speaker 1: Everybody think that our most important player was Broun, the
- 21:08Speaker 1: most important player, not our best player, but the most
- 21:10Speaker 1: important play with c B. Yeah, he was our most
- 21:12Speaker 1: important print Yeah, real because if Bron, if Broun went down,
- 21:16Speaker 1: you could bring in d Wade and it's not the
- 21:18Speaker 1: same player, but you're gonna get similar results of what
- 21:20Speaker 1: you're gonna get out of the player making plays. He
- 21:22Speaker 1: can go for thirty. We couldn't. We couldn't simulate it.
- 21:24Speaker 1: We ain't have another c B that down and he
- 21:26Speaker 1: got hurt. We didn't have another one of those.
- 21:27Speaker 2: And the way supposed started using him too was impossible
- 21:30Speaker 2: to guard like he was shooting threes like he was.
- 21:32Speaker 5: That's why that man was cold brother closed it out
- 21:34Speaker 5: on the threes as a big That's what I'm saying.
- 21:36Speaker 1: And pop three.
- 21:38Speaker 4: To think of pop three, I ain't letting y'all do that.
- 21:40Speaker 4: Al Horford was the first one. Yeah, yeah, listen, I
- 21:45Speaker 4: love but he was the first one shooting threes.
- 21:49Speaker 1: How about Dirk Diggler. Let's go with Dirk and whiskey.
- 21:51Speaker 1: How about that.
- 21:52Speaker 4: Dirk was He was never a four, He was never
- 21:55Speaker 4: a center. He was always a center.
- 21:58Speaker 1: I was a center for us. Listen. The reason Roy
- 22:02Speaker 1: Hibbert had to retire mm hmm. We played the Pacers
- 22:08Speaker 1: A couple of reasons, Hibbert. I got some of that too,
- 22:11Speaker 1: make a long podcast. A couple of reasons Roy had
- 22:13Speaker 1: to get up out of them. I got some of
- 22:15Speaker 1: that too. I'm just being honest. I love it.
- 22:22Speaker 4: I love it, but look, you gotta think about it.
- 22:24Speaker 4: We played them, and I'll never admit it. I've watched
- 22:26Speaker 4: the game back in. One of the announcers was like,
- 22:28Speaker 4: this is not a serious Doug Collins was like, this
- 22:30Speaker 4: is not a series for royd Hibbert. They gonna play
- 22:32Speaker 4: five out and we started like with Bud.
- 22:35Speaker 1: He was like, we're gonna play five out.
- 22:36Speaker 4: We're gonna spread the floor and shoot as ministrees as
- 22:39Speaker 4: you can because we was the eighth seed. We didn't
- 22:41Speaker 4: think we was like, he was like we we weren't
- 22:43Speaker 4: even trying to make the playoffs. He's trying to get Yannis.
- 22:45Speaker 4: We were taking to get Yannis and literally Lou Williams
- 22:48Speaker 4: on our team. He was like that, let's make the
- 22:50Speaker 4: playoffs like the office like like they weren't playing people
- 22:54Speaker 4: or nothing. He was like, we going to the playoffs.
- 22:57Speaker 4: And we ended up making the eighth seed. And then
- 23:00Speaker 4: it was like liters, shoot, have me threes as we can.
- 23:02Speaker 4: And we played five out and Roy Hebbrew was up
- 23:06Speaker 4: like I was walking to the basket like he out
- 23:08Speaker 4: there with Al and Perol. I'm just throwing it to him.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Hey man. We was five out. Mike Scott was fire.
- 23:15Speaker 4: We played all small guys and that was the first
- 23:18Speaker 4: time everybody was like oh and then they went on.
- 23:20Speaker 4: They beat us when we was up three to two,
- 23:23Speaker 4: got nervous loss in Atlanta Game six. We were scared
- 23:27Speaker 4: to tell we was like we were shaking. We up
- 23:29Speaker 4: like eight, like like two minutes to go. David like
- 23:32Speaker 4: these I don't know how to win. I'm like you know,
- 23:37Speaker 4: I was like, we do David took over him with PG.
- 23:41Speaker 4: We off over there looking like that we go gate
- 23:43Speaker 4: Sevin Lewis whatever. But that was when a small ball
- 23:46Speaker 4: first kick.
- 23:46Speaker 1: I mean, for me, my situation, Roy, I ain't gonna
- 23:49Speaker 1: put that on. That was on the coaching, that's on
- 23:50Speaker 1: Vogue vocal with that bully thing, and I'm gonna beat
- 23:52Speaker 1: the mother's gonna lose it for us. You're gonna leave
- 23:54Speaker 1: me open, So hes gonna leave, he gonna go, We're
- 23:57Speaker 1: gonna keep. Yeah, gonna keep big Roy at the paint
- 23:59Speaker 1: because Brown and d like to penetrate and get in
- 24:01Speaker 1: the paint and get to the basket. And he figured
- 24:03Speaker 1: Roy gonna guard the basket. That's when everybody was big
- 24:05Speaker 1: on that verticality rule. Bro was big. He was great
- 24:07Speaker 1: at that stan in front of the room and jump
- 24:09Speaker 1: up straight vertical. You can't finish over him. So I
- 24:11Speaker 1: was gonna be always the outlet. I was always the
- 24:13Speaker 1: outlet in that series. So it was really just let
- 24:16Speaker 1: me shoot like that was gonna be the game plan.
- 24:18Speaker 1: That's disrespectful. Shoot yeah, disrespectful. And then the thing about
- 24:23Speaker 1: it is the can trot it again the next year
- 24:25Speaker 1: it's the same scheme. What you think I got worse
- 24:28Speaker 1: at shooting? Yeah, he can't do it again? Eight for nine?
- 24:32Speaker 1: On your ass again? Your ass again. So I ain't
- 24:37Speaker 1: gonna put that on Roy. That was vogal with that.
- 24:41Speaker 1: I took that a little personal vogue. I mean, we
- 24:43Speaker 1: are all right now, but when I still see him,
- 24:45Speaker 1: I'll be like, I don't know how I feel about question. Though.
- 24:52Speaker 4: Y'all played with great players the way Bond you, but like,
- 24:56Speaker 4: who was the best player? Like you had to say
- 25:00Speaker 4: between all the players you play, who was the best that?
- 25:04Speaker 1: Yeah? Like you like, yeah, who was the best? Let
- 25:07Speaker 1: me tell you something, man, I don't have to second
- 25:10Speaker 1: guess that one. It's gotta be Bron, Bron. It's got
- 25:14Speaker 1: to be Bron. But but what I'm gonna say this
- 25:17Speaker 1: is I watched the Wade and Bron play one on one.
- 25:22Speaker 1: I saw that game. Mhm, who do you wait? Won
- 25:26Speaker 1: that game? All right? So I'm disrespectful when I say
- 25:28Speaker 1: James Harden better than d What? Yeah, that's crazy? Hold on,
- 25:32Speaker 1: hold on, we got we got, we're getting to that.
- 25:35Speaker 1: We're getting. Forgetting what I'm just saying, I gotta ask
- 25:38Speaker 1: you an, but hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
- 25:39Speaker 1: disrespect Michael Jackson to We're gonna get to that. Please
- 25:42Speaker 1: don't please you. We got to get suffer from that.
- 25:44Speaker 1: You got to get to getting that. If I said,
- 25:46Speaker 1: hold on a second, Lebron is the best basketball player
- 25:49Speaker 1: of all Yeah, yeah, just hest one on one day? Okay, cool?
- 25:53Speaker 1: Do you think the best all time? You think I
- 25:55Speaker 1: go to m J. And that's just because Bron, me
- 25:58Speaker 1: and Broun same age, Like I just it's to me
- 26:00Speaker 1: to me, like.
- 26:02Speaker 2: You can say five things that like MJ was my
- 26:05Speaker 2: favorite player and he did so many like it's what
- 26:09Speaker 2: we said we grew up watching now, but Lebron's gonna
- 26:11Speaker 2: be top five in every major sixth category there is.
- 26:14Speaker 1: When he's done. Brown number one from me, Bron's most
- 26:16Speaker 1: buckets ever, don't consider him the score crazy.
- 26:21Speaker 2: And there was no and there's illegal defense, like you
- 26:23Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like there's a lot of different
- 26:25Speaker 2: going on now, Like yeah, it's I'm telling you that one.
- 26:28Speaker 2: I hate arguing that one because's like come on, man,
- 26:30Speaker 2: you can say five things about m damn you right, dog,
- 26:33Speaker 2: but I will gonna have top five like he did
- 26:36Speaker 2: this forever. No, Bron My god.
- 26:38Speaker 1: Bron and I got. I got Kobe somewhere up there.
- 26:43Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll be up there for sure. He'll be
- 26:45Speaker 1: somewhere up there for me as well, like will be
- 26:48Speaker 1: three for me.
- 26:49Speaker 3: Three.
- 26:50Speaker 1: So you got Brian j and Kobe.
- 26:52Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie to your shack up there in
- 26:53Speaker 2: my top like that. I like Brian, Larry legend up there,
- 26:56Speaker 2: y'all can tell me what y'all want. We're in Indiana,
- 26:58Speaker 2: French licked.
- 26:59Speaker 1: Maybe that's my daddy favorite player now, Larry Bird. Hell yeah,
- 27:02Speaker 1: my daddy, Larry Bird. That's my man. Top five Larry
- 27:06Speaker 1: cut grass together man five, top five five? You know
- 27:10Speaker 1: what you what you think about it? Listen? I said
- 27:16Speaker 1: I like him. I didn't say top five. What you
- 27:18Speaker 1: say Larry Bird?
- 27:20Speaker 4: Oh?
- 27:21Speaker 3: I sawd Bird was crazy to.
- 27:26Speaker 1: Damn greasy, tough. No one wanted to see him.
- 27:32Speaker 3: He got his crack.
- 27:36Speaker 1: Hammon.
- 27:39Speaker 3: You don't put enough respect.
- 27:43Speaker 1: I'll give you five for sure, top five man.
- 27:46Speaker 6: But I don't know what kind of help, what kind
- 27:50Speaker 6: of pull me pushed me back with? That too, is
- 27:52Speaker 6: a little bit is because he had a wit bro.
- 27:54Speaker 6: His team was Lord and Kevin mckill.
- 27:58Speaker 2: Don't get enough respect key.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Chief and one of the coolest coaches ever. Kevin mchall
- 28:05Speaker 1: was one of the dopest coaches ever.
- 28:08Speaker 2: One but every every team, every team that won championships
- 28:12Speaker 2: has that though, Like I hate that conversation.
- 28:16Speaker 1: You win, okay, if you don't if if.
- 28:20Speaker 2: What you mean, kareem word, No.
- 28:26Speaker 1: I agree what I'm saying.
- 28:27Speaker 2: That was like, if you don't win, but hold hold up,
- 28:30Speaker 2: here's here's the argument though, Like if you don't win
- 28:31Speaker 2: six seven championships, you're not the best of all time.
- 28:34Speaker 1: You can't win six seven championship. I haven't players.
- 28:36Speaker 2: Yeah, Like so it's like you can't have the you
- 28:39Speaker 2: can't have it both ways because like then you start
- 28:41Speaker 2: taking about to me that team was cheating, but like
- 28:45Speaker 2: he said, all right, Miami team was cheating too.
- 28:47Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was that was time to face in
- 28:50Speaker 3: the right way. That was free agency. Matthew Johnson was
- 28:53Speaker 3: getting picked to.
- 28:54Speaker 5: Like Coya getting James Worth than you just want to chan,
- 28:58Speaker 5: I ain't gonna watch you.
- 28:59Speaker 1: I want to have to see all. But I just
- 29:02Speaker 1: know all I know as I saw my own two eyes.
- 29:04Speaker 1: Like they still had to go through Boston though with
- 29:06Speaker 1: all that talent, they still had to go through Boston, Boston,
- 29:09Speaker 1: Boston Bird dropping Bird. They were dropping their ass off.
- 29:12Speaker 1: They were dropping the ass.
- 29:13Speaker 5: I might be on the on the you know what
- 29:15Speaker 5: I'm saying last year with the kids now Revere Luka
- 29:17Speaker 5: donc is like we like real Larry Bird. Obviously he
- 29:20Speaker 5: got the accomplishment.
- 29:21Speaker 2: The same thing. You don't have to win championship. But
- 29:23Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, old blood of.
- 29:26Speaker 1: Bill, I can't say.
- 29:27Speaker 4: I can't talk to them like that because they they
- 29:30Speaker 4: value championships like I don't care about them. Like when
- 29:32Speaker 4: I look at a player, That's how I got my
- 29:35Speaker 4: d Way and James Harden. When I look at a player,
- 29:37Speaker 4: I just look like what they how they affect the
- 29:39Speaker 4: game and what they do. Like when you go hoop,
- 29:42Speaker 4: you like, well, like everybody got a moment where you
- 29:45Speaker 4: be like all right he got me?
- 29:47Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I which there's hoop and hooping yeah yeah,
- 29:50Speaker 2: and then there's other kind of hooping, right, Like I
- 29:52Speaker 2: value CHAMPIONSHP because at the end of the days, what
- 29:54Speaker 2: we do we.
- 29:54Speaker 1: Play the win? Yeah yeah. Fact.
- 29:55Speaker 2: Fact, the reality is that you have you have to
- 29:58Speaker 2: put that in and it's not going anywhere. If we
- 30:00Speaker 2: ever have a conversation in ten years from now and
- 30:02Speaker 2: Luca does whatever he does, the conversation is gonna start
- 30:04Speaker 2: with him.
- 30:04Speaker 1: Did he win?
- 30:05Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's that's where Now it's like me wanting
- 30:09Speaker 2: to like have him slow mow me and body me.
- 30:11Speaker 1: And I don't want none of that action. I don't
- 30:13Speaker 1: want to see none of it.
- 30:14Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, like if he's
- 30:15Speaker 2: gonna be up there at that top of like being
- 30:17Speaker 2: talked about like Larry's.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Got to win some chips, Now, that's a team you
- 30:21Speaker 1: have what I'm saying, No, No, that.
- 30:23Speaker 2: That's why it's so a lot of these guys go
- 30:25Speaker 2: through it and don't win championships. And then I talked
- 30:27Speaker 2: about so if you don't, Barkley was a bad man.
- 30:29Speaker 1: Now, if he don't win, he's not gonna be top five.
- 30:32Speaker 1: I can't put him there.
- 30:34Speaker 3: I can't.
- 30:37Speaker 1: You're gonna put it. You're bumping out of your top agree.
- 30:40Speaker 1: I gotta agree. But you gotta bump someone now too.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Now I gotta agree. Bro, you're bumping. You're bumping Kobalt
- 30:46Speaker 1: because all the other guys, that's the top five one
- 30:49Speaker 1: bumping that you bumping lebron Out. Yeah, all the other
- 30:54Speaker 1: guys that's in the top five. One.
- 30:55Speaker 3: No, you got, you got. This is just a random five.
- 30:58Speaker 1: We got one.
- 31:00Speaker 3: Bron uh covid Larry shot Larry.
- 31:08Speaker 6: I just like because he and him is one of
- 31:10Speaker 6: the same, like we do strictly just pooh bro di
- 31:15Speaker 6: strictly if you just picking.
- 31:16Speaker 3: The five and bronking with it.
- 31:19Speaker 6: It's kind of hard to not put Luca in the
- 31:22Speaker 6: conversation because he's dead already.
- 31:25Speaker 2: I love Luca, don't get it, twisty that mother is no, no,
- 31:28Speaker 2: he's unbelievable.
- 31:29Speaker 3: He's a young bull coming in the game. Larry Bird
- 31:32Speaker 3: came in the game. He was thirty five, so he
- 31:35Speaker 3: was already sea.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Cigarette. Go look at Larry Birder, are you yeah? You
- 31:44Speaker 1: know he was at a before he was as you what
- 31:46Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, but they had transform his brother.
- 31:51Speaker 3: Yeah, but they had to go through that. They did
- 31:54Speaker 3: those years in college.
- 31:55Speaker 6: Luco being killing professional athletes at a young age. He
- 31:58Speaker 6: started at sixteen, Yes, going crazy. So it's kind of
- 32:02Speaker 6: hard bro by the time thirty three.
- 32:04Speaker 1: Thirty four, look what he's doing in the India today,
- 32:08Speaker 1: How does he now, how does he now think of
- 32:10Speaker 1: what twenty three twenty four, So if Okay, so he
- 32:13Speaker 1: got by thirty four years maybe twenty still, so he
- 32:18Speaker 1: still got plenty of Luca. He's plenty of time to win.
- 32:20Speaker 1: He under twenty five for sure. No oh, he's got
- 32:23Speaker 1: a long time. Ay, guy gets a raised before he
- 32:25Speaker 1: got a long time. He's way under thirty the rings on.
- 32:28Speaker 1: I can't like how I.
- 32:30Speaker 2: So, So here's here's the issue. Because I'm with you, guys,
- 32:33Speaker 2: I'm here with y'all saying, yeah, I see what y'all saying.
- 32:35Speaker 2: Right when it's small difference between Larry and Luca. At
- 32:40Speaker 2: the end of the day, there's gotta be something that
- 32:41Speaker 2: differentiates it. What's the thing that championships? Because if you're
- 32:46Speaker 2: gonna say that top five, from top five to top twenty,
- 32:49Speaker 2: they're all they all go at all night, Yes, yeah,
- 32:52Speaker 2: them all that night. So but I'm saying, though, like
- 32:55Speaker 2: there has there has to be something that separates it. Though,
- 32:57Speaker 2: like when you make that, but there has to be
- 32:58Speaker 2: something that separated.
- 32:59Speaker 1: And part part of it is you keep saying look
- 33:01Speaker 1: at the team. As part of it is mother the
- 33:03Speaker 1: better to who much is given much as acquired. You're
- 33:06Speaker 1: paying a lot of money to make these monkeys around
- 33:08Speaker 1: you better pastor, hassling pastor to who much is given
- 33:13Speaker 1: much as acquired. Don't be complaining. Don't be complaining that
- 33:16Speaker 1: we could talk about because now now we can get
- 33:22Speaker 1: on Milwaukee Bucks. Now we can get on the Milwaukee Bucks.
- 33:24Speaker 1: We can talk about mother complaining about everything around them
- 33:26Speaker 1: instead of doing what they're supposed to do. Bag on
- 33:34Speaker 1: my bucks that we're gonna get on that back. I
- 33:40Speaker 1: think from from what I've gathered from great players, From
- 33:44Speaker 1: what I've gathered from great players, all the ones that
- 33:46Speaker 1: I've played with have made people around them better. It
- 33:49Speaker 1: wasn't about the coaches. It wasn't about what I got.
- 33:52Speaker 1: What I got is enough, and that's what they put
- 33:54Speaker 1: in their mind and that's what they made the people
- 33:55Speaker 1: around them believe. So if you can get your guys
- 33:57Speaker 1: around you believe that what we got is enough, they're
- 33:59Speaker 1: already ahead of the game. So don't be going out
- 34:01Speaker 1: there talking about what you don't gut. They'll be talking
- 34:03Speaker 1: about the players around you. You got two hundred million
- 34:05Speaker 1: to help us win. Figure it out.
- 34:08Speaker 6: Huh, since we're talking about it, I think Gianni's one
- 34:12Speaker 6: with less than everybody in y'all.
- 34:14Speaker 3: Top five.
- 34:16Speaker 1: Hold on disrespect my game. Listen, Listen, that's also a
- 34:26Speaker 1: year that. That's also a year that that's also a
- 34:30Speaker 1: year that of Brooklyn. If Kyrie don't get hurt on
- 34:32Speaker 1: the I spoke the truth, spoke on that again, was
- 34:37Speaker 1: in trouble. If Kyrie ain't get hurt in trouble and
- 34:41Speaker 1: hurt car.
- 34:43Speaker 3: Didn't wear thirty five, would when he got to the championship.
- 34:49Speaker 6: You gotta put respect on that, bro and shout out
- 34:51Speaker 6: to everybody on the Bucks. But that Bucks team cannot
- 34:55Speaker 6: compare to those Lakers teams, to those Miami E team.
- 34:59Speaker 6: It's just even one at a high level, bro with
- 35:03Speaker 6: basically wrong players.
- 35:04Speaker 3: But he didn't have another start.
- 35:06Speaker 1: Okay, So with that being said, why can't Why are
- 35:08Speaker 1: we gonna give Luke or anybody else that pass that
- 35:11Speaker 1: Johnnys can do it? Why can't Luca do it? Why
- 35:12Speaker 1: can't all these other mont get paid? All he's saying, no,
- 35:17Speaker 1: give him time. We're gonna give him time. But at
- 35:19Speaker 1: the end of his career if he ain't won, I
- 35:20Speaker 1: don't want hear nobody no top five. I'm rolling. I'm
- 35:22Speaker 1: rolling with that too. I don't hear no. I don't
- 35:24Speaker 1: hear nobody, no top five I can't. I like pure hooping. Listen.
- 35:29Speaker 1: So when I look at like Kyrie, Kyrie wanted, I
- 35:32Speaker 1: don't function well and losing spaces, losing I started making
- 35:36Speaker 1: bad the coach coming out. I don't function well and
- 35:38Speaker 1: losing spaces. The loser make me do bad, hang around
- 35:41Speaker 1: me all the time, loser keep me up all night.
- 35:43Speaker 1: And that's the coach over up had the time is
- 35:45Speaker 1: the double playground. I lose too much, I get to
- 35:47Speaker 1: think of crazy come back in. Yeah, I don't want
- 35:53Speaker 1: none of that. So for me, Thog, I can't. I can't.
- 35:55Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, but I cannot not win.
- 35:59Speaker 1: That's all right, So I'm out of pocket. For d
- 36:01Speaker 1: Wade James Harden, yeah that was crazy. We don't touch
- 36:03Speaker 1: on that. We ain't letting that slide. We gotta talk
- 36:05Speaker 1: about it. But I understood from the perspective of when
- 36:07Speaker 1: these kids go to the court, they want to get
- 36:09Speaker 1: in their bag. For sure. Boom boom boom. D Wade
- 36:11Speaker 1: was more than I'm gonna get to my spot. I'm
- 36:13Speaker 1: gonna put this pull up two in your face or
- 36:15Speaker 1: whatever it is, and if you could guard it, good luck,
- 36:17Speaker 1: But will get to my spot. And take my shot.
- 36:20Speaker 1: So most of these kids, most of these kids ain't
- 36:22Speaker 1: doing that no more. They can't. He's got a whole
- 36:24Speaker 1: bag and another bag in the car. They walk at you,
- 36:26Speaker 1: bubble gum. But he could dribble his ass off and
- 36:28Speaker 1: can do all the drills he see on TV. So
- 36:30Speaker 1: I understood that perspective. I wasn't disrespecting d w.
- 36:33Speaker 2: I think he's a so it questions at Carlos Bancos,
- 36:35Speaker 2: at Carlos Bankers, does Jeff still think.
- 36:38Speaker 1: Ringler's file merchant hard and is better than the Hall
- 36:40Speaker 1: of Fame d Wade?
- 36:41Speaker 7: I didn't write the questions a loaded question, that is
- 36:44Speaker 7: a loaded Ques's crazy Listen, I think James Harden is
- 36:48Speaker 7: the number three shooting guard all time me just like
- 36:52Speaker 7: watching this game, going against him, competing against him, like
- 36:54Speaker 7: it was real life scheme, Like you had to scheme
- 36:57Speaker 7: for d Wade too.
- 36:58Speaker 4: But James hard when he was by hisself in Houston,
- 37:02Speaker 4: bro they was going to the Western Conference finals every year,
- 37:04Speaker 4: they was doing all this stuff. He was unbelievable, averaging
- 37:08Speaker 4: thirty five eight eight. He's one of the easiest scores,
- 37:12Speaker 4: Like it was. He was unguardable and no offense. I mean, like,
- 37:16Speaker 4: I ain't trying to disrespect the way when d Wade
- 37:19Speaker 4: before bron got there, No disrespecting you too. Miami was
- 37:22Speaker 4: dim there, y'all was competing with us, the Hawks, like
- 37:25Speaker 4: we was going back and forth. We wasn't like that.
- 37:28Speaker 4: Then bron came different, strataspic. Well it was nasty.
- 37:34Speaker 1: I wasn't there. Wait what what what? I ain't gonna
- 37:37Speaker 1: let you what. I ain't gonna no, no, no, no,
- 37:44Speaker 1: I ain't gonna let you do it like we ain't
- 37:45Speaker 1: want the championship before Broun got there. The braids, the
- 37:49Speaker 1: braids U D Oh god yeah, fresh shot fresh shout
- 37:53Speaker 1: almost ud fair straight back, yeah, fresh, Yeah. You ain't
- 37:57Speaker 1: gonna let that right, yeah, that you ain't gonna not
- 37:59Speaker 1: let brought them back. Now, you gotta take something back
- 38:02Speaker 1: that U D right, that was fighting for us in life,
- 38:05Speaker 1: that you didn't have no all my money, that you
- 38:07Speaker 1: didn't have no money that ud watch what Dirk did
- 38:10Speaker 1: in the playoffs to San Antonio and Tim duncan em
- 38:13Speaker 1: that U d was fighting for his mother life and
- 38:14Speaker 1: I have my homeboys. He let that German cookie boy,
- 38:18Speaker 1: you will never hit the end of it. You talk
- 38:19Speaker 1: about him had as times ten Nah. In fact, I
- 38:23Speaker 1: ain't gonna let you do no disrespect. Y'all. Was nasty
- 38:27Speaker 1: d Wade. He's a goat. He was ugly after that.
- 38:30Speaker 1: After that, yeah, I got rough, it got rough. We
- 38:32Speaker 1: have I see, I see some rough. He's okay. I
- 38:36Speaker 1: seen Joe. Joe was having moment, not enough to talk about,
- 38:41Speaker 1: and so Joe first of all one of the Calders. Listen,
- 38:44Speaker 1: Buddy talk about easy score. Hey, listen, didn't you have
- 38:47Speaker 1: to go out here in college? Yeah? Yeah, I don't
- 38:49Speaker 1: know how that went from. I know we won.
- 38:52Speaker 4: We won, We beat the ass, we beat as that nice.
- 38:55Speaker 4: He's a bad oh, but I knew, like when I
- 38:57Speaker 4: used to watch the game.
- 38:58Speaker 2: Does the same stuff. That's how good he was. You're
- 39:01Speaker 2: gonna watch him right now. He was gonna rocky to sleep.
- 39:03Speaker 1: Yeah, but I agree with everything after you after that,
- 39:06Speaker 1: I agree with that. I was like, I don't know
- 39:09Speaker 1: about Miami. It's fun to go there, though.
- 39:11Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna tell you right now that boy d
- 39:14Speaker 2: Wade is built different though, no big, big moments and
- 39:17Speaker 2: stuff I used to see him in. Look, I'm talking
- 39:20Speaker 2: to tell you, like blocking shot, but I'm saying, like
- 39:22Speaker 2: you can say offensive package wise, I get it, but
- 39:24Speaker 2: like just impacting games, d Wade was unbelievable for sure. Defensively,
- 39:29Speaker 2: big steals, big blocks like he just like like as
- 39:32Speaker 2: a teammate, as a teammate, you walk out of like,
- 39:34Speaker 2: oh we got And that's.
- 39:36Speaker 1: Why I would take d Wade over him. It's because
- 39:37Speaker 1: of the impact on the game, the impact on winning.
- 39:40Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna say. Not just the game, the
- 39:42Speaker 1: impact that he has on winning.
- 39:44Speaker 6: But when those years were sour in Miami, James Harden,
- 39:48Speaker 6: when he has those same type of teams, he did.
- 39:50Speaker 1: More with less and and didn't win. That's the fact
- 39:57Speaker 1: it looked good.
- 39:58Speaker 2: Me let me because this is this a good conversation,
- 40:00Speaker 2: then I like this. It's James Harden better on worse teams. Yeah,
- 40:04Speaker 2: so if you put them on a good teams, Oh damn,
- 40:06Speaker 2: that's not that's not a good thing to be.
- 40:08Speaker 1: I'm not saying he looks he looks really good with
- 40:10Speaker 1: the Clippers. It looks really good with the Clippers.
- 40:12Speaker 4: I ain't saying he was on worse teams, but I'm
- 40:14Speaker 4: saying when he had his teams, they always was winning.
- 40:17Speaker 1: Like he never had bad years. Okay, bro, but what
- 40:21Speaker 1: did did they win? I'm just saying they never had
- 40:24Speaker 1: bad years.
- 40:24Speaker 4: It was a time when y'all was in Miami where
- 40:27Speaker 4: it was like, so what we're doing were bad?
- 40:29Speaker 1: Y'all got Mike be right, You're right. I give you
- 40:31Speaker 1: that you we had. We had a tough year. We
- 40:33Speaker 1: went never had a bad year. At the end of
- 40:35Speaker 1: the day, there's only one champion. I feel that. So
- 40:38Speaker 1: y'all freaking Bobby saying, mother, you ain't first you laugh
- 40:43Speaker 1: about all them numbers. I'll get about all them numbers.
- 40:48Speaker 1: It matter to me. Did you win at the end
- 40:50Speaker 1: of the day. That's all. I want to know what
- 40:52Speaker 1: you average, what you did? I want to see if
- 40:54Speaker 1: you want to. James Harden, listen, James Harden is really unbelievable.
- 40:59Speaker 5: Talking about two legs like to.
- 41:03Speaker 1: It's no disrespected James, James. I love to watch James.
- 41:07Speaker 1: This game is amazing. Skill set unmatched. That's that's skill.
- 41:11Speaker 1: That's what we had the conversation earlier skill versus what's
- 41:13Speaker 1: God given skill? Hey man, listen, listen, God bless him.
- 41:21Speaker 1: Hey make everybody better. I live a better life. He
- 41:24Speaker 1: do make everybody better. Now what I will say is
- 41:26Speaker 1: what I will say is he maximizes his strengths, Sir.
- 41:30Speaker 1: He maximizes his strengths. And a lot of people, I
- 41:32Speaker 1: think when you get to this league, a lot of
- 41:33Speaker 1: people want to be able to do everything, and that
- 41:35Speaker 1: might be the worst thing you can do. If you
- 41:36Speaker 1: could just do one thing great, you might get a
- 41:38Speaker 1: chance in this league. But a lot of mothers that
- 41:39Speaker 1: do a lot of different things average. You must have
- 41:42Speaker 1: seen them all playing somewhere else. But if you can
- 41:44Speaker 1: find something that you can do great, whether it be defend,
- 41:46Speaker 1: whether it be shooting, whether it be playmaking, if you
- 41:48Speaker 1: have one thing you can do great, then you got
- 41:50Speaker 1: a better chance of making in this league. The things
- 41:52Speaker 1: that he does great are exceptional. The rebounding, the getting it,
- 41:56Speaker 1: pushing out the paint. They've done a great job of
- 41:58Speaker 1: building around him the things that he needs. Cause all
- 42:00Speaker 1: you're gonna do is called the paint on Jannis and
- 42:01Speaker 1: he's spraying them. Boys. Just got to be ready to shoot.
- 42:03Speaker 1: Where do you basketball? Where do you rank him the league?
- 42:05Speaker 1: Right now? Top five? What's my top five snipper right now?
- 42:13Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really think too much about it.
- 42:15Speaker 1: I don't think too much about it. My team and
- 42:17Speaker 1: my top five better KD KD Bron yeap joker, you
- 42:27Speaker 1: think Bron better than Janice right now? That's three right,
- 42:30Speaker 1: yes at this moment. Yeah, no, I'm not taking yes, yes, yes,
- 42:35Speaker 1: because yes, yes, yes, yes they both come in if
- 42:39Speaker 1: they both come in here with their bag, both coming
- 42:41Speaker 1: here today, if they both come in here with their
- 42:43Speaker 1: bag of skills, he coming in with a person, Bron
- 42:45Speaker 1: coming in with a DFEL. So yes, I'm taking Broun.
- 42:49Speaker 1: If they both come in with a bag of skills,
- 42:51Speaker 1: Ron coming in with a person, one coming in with
- 42:53Speaker 1: a DAFE. But what if you walk in with the
- 42:55Speaker 1: nazis the bag double or that boy coming there with
- 43:03Speaker 1: a published plastic up boy coming with a public the
- 43:08Speaker 1: public sandwich bag tops in the league, go man, Luca, Luca,
- 43:16Speaker 1: I forgot how to Luca and big. That's an easy five.
- 43:20Speaker 5: Only thing of that is, we just talked about what
- 43:22Speaker 5: people did and accomplishments.
- 43:24Speaker 1: Now Joanna's got two of them things, and we talk
- 43:27Speaker 1: about top five in the league right now. We ain't
- 43:28Speaker 1: talking about when they retire, and it's all over. What's
- 43:30Speaker 1: Milwaukee record right now? Though I don't know what their
- 43:33Speaker 1: record is, but I know what they should listen. All
- 43:35Speaker 1: I know is they done lost five out of the
- 43:36Speaker 1: last seven.
- 43:37Speaker 4: Shouts to Doc. He's not he's locked in. Man, we're
- 43:41Speaker 4: up and down right now. We're just having a moment.
- 43:43Speaker 4: That's what I do, is getting ready for Austar. Can
- 43:45Speaker 4: he be top five by the time he retires, of
- 43:48Speaker 4: course he can. But at the end of the day, though,
- 43:50Speaker 4: as he gets older, taking it off the basket, going
- 43:52Speaker 4: downhill on five people and dunking is not gonna be
- 43:54Speaker 4: realistic after a while.
- 43:55Speaker 1: But right now, right now, it's amazing. He's better than Brown.
- 43:59Speaker 1: Right now, I don't go for that. Man.
- 44:02Speaker 4: The Lakers would trade for Janni's right now. They say
- 44:05Speaker 4: we can swap Lebron on Nice right now. I don't
- 44:07Speaker 4: know about that. No, No, they're going to do that
- 44:09Speaker 4: because the age was. But what I'm saying right now,
- 44:12Speaker 4: I don't.
- 44:14Speaker 1: Know about that. I love. Have you seen Bron turn around?
- 44:17Speaker 1: Like like you said, N's made your life better? Bron
- 44:20Speaker 1: made a little bit better. Coron my go to So
- 44:25Speaker 1: I'm with Bron. I'm saying right now, at thirty nine,
- 44:27Speaker 1: Bron's not better than twenty nine. Whatever, He's not better
- 44:32Speaker 1: than what kind of bag he walking in? A code
- 44:34Speaker 1: person a duffel where you listen, That's all I'm saying
- 44:38Speaker 1: in the public say I'm not listen. This is not
- 44:40Speaker 1: knocking anything that Janni's does, man, But what I'm saying,
- 44:42Speaker 1: I'm going off skill set. I'm going off what I see.
- 44:45Speaker 1: I watched after we lost that playoff series against A
- 44:48Speaker 1: Dallas in the playoffs. I watched Bron getting that lab
- 44:51Speaker 1: and come back next summer the next year. I ain't
- 44:54Speaker 1: never seen him do. I have not watched. I have
- 44:56Speaker 1: not watched Johanna's come back yet. I ain't seen I'm
- 45:00Speaker 1: still waiting. Listen Skin thirty, listen Yanna. Just want to Chip,
- 45:08Speaker 1: just want to Chip? Give me hey, give me your
- 45:10Speaker 1: top five and my top five league right now? Joannis,
- 45:14Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, Luca Yo Kitchen. I don't know.
- 45:23Speaker 4: After that, Nah and be there in my top five.
- 45:26Speaker 4: I love him be but in my so far, he'd
- 45:28Speaker 4: be killing, but he gets he'd be in and out.
- 45:31Speaker 4: He get hurt all the time. I like people who
- 45:34Speaker 4: I know I can be there. Like if I'm betting
- 45:36Speaker 4: on whatever, I'm betting on, So I'm not betting on.
- 45:39Speaker 1: All the people you name so far, and I'm gonna
- 45:41Speaker 1: let you finish. Ain't none on one, not even I
- 45:43Speaker 1: wasnt gonna even bring that up. Who got the least
- 45:45Speaker 1: skills out all those people? Who got the least skills set?
- 45:49Speaker 1: I ain't talking about God giving what he blessed you
- 45:51Speaker 1: when you came out the sack. Let'm talking about who
- 45:53Speaker 1: got the least ski who got the least my skill
- 45:57Speaker 1: talking about what you came out to sack with. I'm
- 45:58Speaker 1: talking about who got the smartest you.
- 46:00Speaker 2: I wish, I wish I got dropped off the sack
- 46:02Speaker 2: like that.
- 46:06Speaker 1: Five min Yeah, talk to him? What are you doing?
- 46:12Speaker 1: What are you doing? That's the first we all learned
- 46:15Speaker 1: how to do a drill between the legs. That's the
- 46:18Speaker 1: first all us learn how to do that. You say,
- 46:22Speaker 1: your steps don't even play ball. But I bet he
- 46:23Speaker 1: could drill between his legs. I bet he can and
- 46:27Speaker 1: make it look good. Tool over. No, no, no, no, listen,
- 46:35Speaker 1: he still has not name. Right back, you still have
- 46:38Speaker 1: not named who got the least amount of skills out
- 46:40Speaker 1: of those might not have the best skill set, but
- 46:44Speaker 1: he a dog. I like Yannis. This is not a
- 46:46Speaker 1: knock on Yannis man. People might say this month. He Listen,
- 46:49Speaker 1: I ain't shoot threes. Towards the end of my career.
- 46:51Speaker 1: He was just a mid range jump shooter. That don't
- 46:53Speaker 1: mean I was useless. That don't mean I wasn't a
- 46:54Speaker 1: good player. That just means I didn't do what people
- 46:56Speaker 1: wanted me to do at certain times or whatever. I
- 46:58Speaker 1: don't mind Janni's game. I think he can win, and
- 47:00Speaker 1: you put the right pieces around him. But what I'm
- 47:02Speaker 1: saying is all the grace that I've played with. I
- 47:04Speaker 1: watched him every year get better and better and better.
- 47:07Speaker 1: They didn't say it was about him. They didn't say
- 47:08Speaker 1: it was about the coach. They got in lab and
- 47:11Speaker 1: they came back better. That's all I'm saying. Listen, this
- 47:14Speaker 1: is not a knock, bro. But I watched the Grats
- 47:16Speaker 1: get better every year. I have not seen him come
- 47:19Speaker 1: back with something that I didn't see the year before.
- 47:21Speaker 1: That's all I'm waiting for. I remember, he couldn't shoot
- 47:24Speaker 1: threes at all. Huh he can go oh for eight,
- 47:27Speaker 1: he go yllness, Now you go like two for eight
- 47:30Speaker 1: getting better? Come on, co listen, man, we all chucked
- 47:37Speaker 1: that much. You aren't worried about that. In the Scout report. No,
- 47:43Speaker 1: the scout reporters, get back, build a wall, get back,
- 47:45Speaker 1: and transition to build a wall. Nobody is worried about
- 47:48Speaker 1: Jannis in the half court. Nobody is worried about Jannis
- 47:50Speaker 1: in the half court. Huh did that's you basket left me?
- 47:56Speaker 1: You see how that worked out? Funduction? Yeah, no, they
- 48:00Speaker 1: did it. Listen, we get back, we build a wall,
- 48:02Speaker 1: We close out on the sprays. What happened.
- 48:05Speaker 4: Ain't had the same team when they did that, though
- 48:08Speaker 4: they ain't have the same player they had.
- 48:10Speaker 1: If you had me huge out of the last out
- 48:14Speaker 1: of the last three years we faced, me walk into
- 48:16Speaker 1: playoffs and we beat them two out of the three.
- 48:19Speaker 1: To with with whom some would say less talent we had.
- 48:25Speaker 1: Who's whom? The critics the mother? I don't know how
- 48:31Speaker 1: y'all all the.
- 48:32Speaker 4: Analytics, I don't know how analytics analytics finding It'd be
- 48:36Speaker 4: a person that y'all developed, telling better than I ever
- 48:40Speaker 4: seen brom.
- 48:45Speaker 1: So.
- 48:46Speaker 2: I got another question from fans. I don't know who
- 48:48Speaker 2: asked this one because it doesn't say it on the screen.
- 48:51Speaker 2: Who is your hardest most dreaded matchup?
- 48:53Speaker 1: Me? D Rose before you got hurt by far think
- 48:58Speaker 1: about it.
- 48:58Speaker 4: Man, I ain't gonna lie to There's a lot of
- 49:01Speaker 4: it was unbelievable, was fast, strong, every play was reformed.
- 49:06Speaker 4: They ran forehead that pick and roll side picking roll
- 49:09Speaker 4: with him and Booze. It was unbelievable. And he get
- 49:11Speaker 4: to the rim and he was like relentless, like every
- 49:15Speaker 4: single time he was trying to score or he was
- 49:17Speaker 4: trying to make a play.
- 49:18Speaker 1: He was too hard to guard. He was so strong.
- 49:21Speaker 4: And I knew him since I was thirteen, So it's like, damn,
- 49:24Speaker 4: You've been like this since I was thirteen.
- 49:27Speaker 1: Yeah, where was you then when that wasn't when you were?
- 49:29Speaker 1: Where were you playing that then? When this was?
- 49:30Speaker 4: I was in Atlanta when I hated Guardian, but when
- 49:33Speaker 4: high school growing up? But in Atlanta on history, come
- 49:36Speaker 4: on thirteen, Nah, I mean I shot that on high school.
- 49:42Speaker 1: I was scared of high school. I go back at you.
- 49:44Speaker 4: In the NBA, Joe was like, hey, Jamal, Like, hey,
- 49:50Speaker 4: I told you like Jamal crazy, that's my guy. He
- 49:52Speaker 4: used to have a little say Jamal, funny as hell.
- 49:55Speaker 4: He'll give you money so you here, build a relationship
- 49:59Speaker 4: with you. So we're getting the ain't me Like hey, hey,
- 50:03Speaker 4: everybody took you out to eat last night here and
- 50:06Speaker 4: then you had My team was crazy. I had Josh
- 50:08Speaker 4: doing the same thing, Al doing that, Marvin doing that,
- 50:11Speaker 4: Jamal doing that Joe, And if I passed the Joe,
- 50:15Speaker 4: Jamal will be like, all right, now, next time you
- 50:17Speaker 4: come down this Sure, you look to that left.
- 50:19Speaker 1: Now, don't do that. I was like, I'm graty to
- 50:22Speaker 1: be a point guard. Man.
- 50:23Speaker 4: I used to do it like man Kirk, So you
- 50:26Speaker 4: got a Kurt. I won't come off the bench. They
- 50:30Speaker 4: want the ball too much. I'm trying to shoot too.
- 50:32Speaker 4: I'm broke, man. Hold on, I'm trying to average.
- 50:39Speaker 1: Some good dinners out of the.
- 50:40Speaker 4: Sure definitely had the best dinner, the best nights out Miami.
- 50:44Speaker 4: When Baby was he took me to live. I'm like,
- 50:46Speaker 4: oh yeah, live on Sunday. Come on, man, it was
- 50:49Speaker 4: a time. It was a time on Sunday. Then right
- 50:52Speaker 4: after King of Diamonds, we probably got a whole.
- 50:55Speaker 3: New respects for y'all. Y'all played in Miami, bro and
- 50:59Speaker 3: still with the court.
- 51:01Speaker 1: The first year we won at six championship, we had
- 51:03Speaker 1: our own corner called Championship corner. That's crazy, but we had.
- 51:08Speaker 1: It was our whole corner when we get back from
- 51:09Speaker 1: a clip. When we land in the city, you know,
- 51:10Speaker 1: nothing closing Miami til six o'clock. We land at two am. Me,
- 51:14Speaker 1: Antoine Walker, Garrett Payton, We straight to kod Fund Championship.
- 51:18Speaker 1: Coach Rally told you all the time I start giving
- 51:20Speaker 1: out puis playing under the influence these twenty five hundred
- 51:25Speaker 1: for coming here smelling like that.
- 51:27Speaker 4: I think it's probably harder to play in Atlanta than Miami. Though, Yeah, Jack,
- 51:32Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lock, Yeah, buddy, Atlanta is tough, man, Buddy,
- 51:36Speaker 4: you had Magic City on the Stroker's body, Tapple.
- 51:39Speaker 1: The list goes on, man, the list goes on.
- 51:42Speaker 4: Like you said, everything after ours. It's Atlanta a tough
- 51:46Speaker 4: place to place as a young dud. I got drafted
- 51:48Speaker 4: with when I was nineteen turned twenty, and everybody on
- 51:52Speaker 4: my team already had got paid. So I was coming
- 51:55Speaker 4: to a team where everybody got forty million, fifty sixty
- 51:58Speaker 4: seventy million.
- 52:00Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, that's you ain't have to worry about
- 52:05Speaker 1: nothing in Minnesota. Yeah, to worry about nothing in Minnesota?
- 52:09Speaker 1: Nothing any worry about that? Man, You focused on that.
- 52:12Speaker 1: We we ain't good.
- 52:13Speaker 4: I had to worry about could wait to leave, like, oh,
- 52:17Speaker 4: we got a game up on the road. You know
- 52:18Speaker 4: you usually hate going on the road. I was excited.
- 52:21Speaker 4: We want a Memphis tonight, Memphis hotel. That's the Memphis Hotel.
- 52:28Speaker 4: Oh man, top five weeks in the league.
- 52:30Speaker 1: Man, them little funky ass ducks be walking out and
- 52:32Speaker 1: they got you, what's that? What's that? What's that hotel?
- 52:35Speaker 1: When were walking, were coming down the elevated for a game.
- 52:38Speaker 1: We getting ready to go to the bus, and they
- 52:39Speaker 1: stop us for these little duck body.
- 52:41Speaker 4: The Peabody and then the other one, the new one
- 52:45Speaker 4: they built, uh, right across the street from nor the Western.
- 52:49Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the Western, right across street from the arena. Damn
- 52:52Speaker 1: food good though, food good, and man, we can do something. Yeah,
- 52:55Speaker 1: but that's just the Western. They put it right across
- 52:57Speaker 1: from the arena like it was. But it's just a Western.
- 52:59Speaker 2: At this game, mame, who is the most boring guest
- 53:04Speaker 2: that Jeff brought on this podcast? I wanted y'all to
- 53:06Speaker 2: say this one, what y'all got interesting?
- 53:09Speaker 1: Question?
- 53:10Speaker 3: Talked a lot of them. I wouldn't say most born.
- 53:16Speaker 6: I would say the one that I wish we would
- 53:19Speaker 6: have got a little bit more info out of and
- 53:21Speaker 6: it was a do the time constraints, I would say,
- 53:24Speaker 6: Michael Blackson, I wouldn't say it.
- 53:26Speaker 3: Was boring, but if we could redo our interview, I would.
- 53:28Speaker 1: Say due the time and constraints. Huh.
- 53:30Speaker 5: So what's crazy about that is we have Michael Blackson
- 53:33Speaker 5: on the show right before the Cat Williams should drop.
- 53:37Speaker 5: We had scheduled to drop it. When that happened. It
- 53:40Speaker 5: wasn't because of that. It's just how we you'll know
- 53:42Speaker 5: how scheduling work. So Cat Williams comes out two days
- 53:45Speaker 5: before we dropped the episode. So when the episode comes out,
- 53:48Speaker 5: we like.
- 53:51Speaker 1: Insane and that Yeah, at all, right, tell the truth,
- 53:56Speaker 1: broll the truth. What happened? It ain't I was sleep well,
- 54:02Speaker 1: he had, but he I.
- 54:03Speaker 4: Had just came back from Atlanta and like you just said,
- 54:06Speaker 4: Atlanta undefeated.
- 54:07Speaker 1: So I fly back.
- 54:10Speaker 4: I get here like at seven in the morning, and
- 54:13Speaker 4: I think in the time, shout out to Mike, Mike, Yeah,
- 54:17Speaker 4: I thought the time was at three. Yeah, it was
- 54:19Speaker 4: at twelve. So I'm knocked out. So I had to
- 54:23Speaker 4: guess wait, and it's my fault. The interview was just
- 54:25Speaker 4: it was my back.
- 54:27Speaker 3: Team.
- 54:28Speaker 1: But I'm saying I wish it was Club five twenty
- 54:30Speaker 1: sticking together. You see, this supposed to be turning on me.
- 54:34Speaker 3: It was supposed to be.
- 54:35Speaker 6: I feel like if this was like a night interview
- 54:37Speaker 6: and he could have saw that catch interview differently, yeah,
- 54:40Speaker 6: would be.
- 54:41Speaker 1: I would have gave him more content and everything, right,
- 54:45Speaker 1: everything would have been better.
- 54:46Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking about stuff on Club five twenty, you said
- 54:50Speaker 2: something out rage about Michael Jackson.
- 54:53Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what was that about?
- 54:54Speaker 7: Now?
- 54:54Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about the king, Like all right, listen.
- 54:56Speaker 4: He is from Indy, from Indy, but Indiana from Gary
- 55:00Speaker 4: in DNA. So we love Michael Jackson like I love
- 55:03Speaker 4: him too, Like that's my favorite artist. But all I
- 55:06Speaker 4: was saying is when he went white, no shot.
- 55:10Speaker 1: White mean in his skin?
- 55:12Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, black, he was blast. He gave his voice,
- 55:17Speaker 4: but he got white. His voice kind of got white.
- 55:19Speaker 1: To what I'm saying, listen, gas, he loved it. He
- 55:27Speaker 1: loved it. Look, I'm just saying, like the older than
- 55:31Speaker 1: guy and the lighter he got is no smaller his vocals.
- 55:34Speaker 1: Like Michael McDonald, I would say, like, y'all, what's the
- 55:43Speaker 1: show on Netflix? Always was talking about me and he
- 55:45Speaker 1: were talking about we got the world, the world. He
- 55:47Speaker 1: was a man. I love that doc.
- 55:50Speaker 4: He was amazing, Like blood voice was unbelievable. I'm saying
- 55:53Speaker 4: he got older. I was like he didn't age grace
- 55:56Speaker 4: his voice did.
- 55:56Speaker 1: Wasn't me ad line of Richie looked younger than the
- 55:58Speaker 1: doc that he did back in the day when he
- 56:00Speaker 1: was in the studio, Like, damn, that's good work. Hell
- 56:04Speaker 1: you crazy younger now doing his interviews that he did
- 56:07Speaker 1: back then in the studio. That's because he got with
- 56:10Speaker 1: that's his double ganger. He got waded alge Roe als
- 56:13Speaker 1: Rose not docingany Wow, man drunks hell and there drunks
- 56:18Speaker 1: hell in there.
- 56:21Speaker 3: What I really think he had a little oar. I
- 56:26Speaker 3: think the pocket when he said.
- 56:30Speaker 1: Drake could sing better than I didn't say he could
- 56:32Speaker 1: seem better. I said, just as good.
- 56:34Speaker 3: You want to hear that? What what Michael Jackson little.
- 56:37Speaker 1: Like you said, I don't remember human nature? What about
- 56:40Speaker 1: his listen? Human nature? That bad? That's the human nature? Listen?
- 56:43Speaker 1: He said. He you said you're gonna listen to under
- 56:46Speaker 1: his song and said that sound good?
- 56:47Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 56:48Speaker 1: What about Man and the Mirror? That like when he
- 56:51Speaker 1: was still he was still mixed. It was being allegations.
- 56:54Speaker 1: Then he was mixed right there. First of all, the
- 56:59Speaker 1: crazy part is you said a rapper could say better
- 57:02Speaker 1: than them.
- 57:02Speaker 4: Now I was saying, they make like because the conversation
- 57:05Speaker 4: started because he was talking about Drake and Michael Jackson
- 57:07Speaker 4: who was the best, who was the best, like because
- 57:09Speaker 4: he beat him on number one hits or whatever, And
- 57:12Speaker 4: I was like, he Michael Jackson voice wasn't all that
- 57:15Speaker 4: as he got older. But they clipped that they don't
- 57:17Speaker 4: never say that. I said it when he got older,
- 57:19Speaker 4: and I was like Drake and Drake Dimner saying, just
- 57:21Speaker 4: as good as man.
- 57:23Speaker 1: He took it overboard, didn't.
- 57:25Speaker 3: I just I just didn't want you to be on
- 57:27Speaker 3: the shade room ball.
- 57:28Speaker 1: And you got me on the shad rope, and Butler
- 57:30Speaker 1: alarted all that.
- 57:31Speaker 3: I was trying to be caught. Sometimes we go at it.
- 57:33Speaker 6: That's right, show, but I'll be like, bro, something I
- 57:37Speaker 6: can't let you listen.
- 57:39Speaker 1: I was bugging. I'm gonna say I was. I was
- 57:41Speaker 1: tripped out. One thing I say about these podcasts, you
- 57:44Speaker 1: don't got to deal with that because you don't never
- 57:45Speaker 1: say nothing crazy. One thing I tell you about these podcasts, boys,
- 57:48Speaker 1: but they feel like when you say something you got
- 57:50Speaker 1: an opinion, like they gotta say and have their opinion back.
- 57:54Speaker 1: But I'm saying it on the platform where it's going
- 57:56Speaker 1: out to the world. Reach out to me personally in
- 57:58Speaker 1: DM me and talk.
- 58:00Speaker 3: Come on, man, we don't never disrestraint nobody personally. That's
- 58:02Speaker 3: why I'll be getting tight, like he don't be hearing,
- 58:04Speaker 3: but really be bothering me because he really don't becoming
- 58:07Speaker 3: that month.
- 58:07Speaker 1: Yeah, people like to come at you, crazy on you
- 58:10Speaker 1: but having an opinion.
- 58:11Speaker 5: And the worst part about it is they don't never
- 58:14Speaker 5: hear the eight times you picked them up, the positives
- 58:16Speaker 5: if you said about him. They hear one clip from
- 58:18Speaker 5: one piece of be like y'all hate on me.
- 58:20Speaker 1: Listen to the last eight episode we say about that, Like.
- 58:24Speaker 4: When d Wade when I said that about d Way,
- 58:26Speaker 4: Oh my Goddy, call it quick. I was like, yeah,
- 58:29Speaker 4: I'm done podcast.
- 58:31Speaker 1: Listen, you're about to be one and done.
- 58:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 58:34Speaker 1: I was like, let me tell you some what's fun man?
- 58:36Speaker 1: When when Bamn told that story about happened what happened
- 58:40Speaker 1: with Bill Russell, that was the first time I was like, man,
- 58:42Speaker 1: I'm out of here. I'm done with you. Yeah. I
- 58:44Speaker 1: was like, damn, they ain't edit that part.
- 58:47Speaker 5: When I seen you say, I said they potting, they potty,
- 58:50Speaker 5: Let's go because my thought.
- 58:53Speaker 1: So next now, Bamn told that story, and that was
- 58:56Speaker 1: a story that I never intended on getting out. You
- 58:58Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that everybody we all inside our
- 59:00Speaker 1: house with our family that don't get outside the house.
- 59:02Speaker 1: So when Bama told that story, I never told the
- 59:04Speaker 1: intended on that story getting out. What people don't understand
- 59:06Speaker 1: is they try to make it about Bill Russell. It
- 59:08Speaker 1: was never about Bill Russell, was about the Celtics. It
- 59:11Speaker 1: was never about Bill Russell. It was about the Celtics.
- 59:13Speaker 1: People say, why you ain't complaining about m J. Jersey
- 59:16Speaker 1: hanging because we wasn't playing Chicago. We're playing the bull.
- 59:18Speaker 1: I mean, we're playing Celtics. What I complained about MJ
- 59:21Speaker 1: Jersey And here we're playing Celtics. My team gonna look
- 59:23Speaker 1: at me like you old and see now we're not
- 59:25Speaker 1: playing them right now. So like it had nothing to
- 59:28Speaker 1: do with the individual person. They had nothing to do
- 59:32Speaker 1: with the individual person. They just had to do with
- 59:33Speaker 1: the Celtics. And everybody know how I feel about the Celtics.
- 59:35Speaker 1: Everybody know how I feel about Buddy. Then acted, Yeah,
- 59:39Speaker 1: everybody know how I feel about Buddy. Now Buddy and them,
- 59:42Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say buddy man becausebody gonna get hurtcause
- 59:44Speaker 1: I Don'tkeep'm gonna stop playing him, vell might get hurt. Yeah,
- 59:52Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't be with
- 59:53Speaker 1: all the twitter fingers and all them games playing like
- 59:55Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave for somebody to get hurt.
- 59:57Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lot of that. Listen, I'm always say funny.
- 1:00:00Speaker 4: I think funny. I played too much. That was funny?
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: Which one?
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: Well?
- 1:00:05Speaker 4: He said that like he's still you still giving it,
- 1:00:08Speaker 4: like we all know you earned your retirement, Like yeah,
- 1:00:11Speaker 4: everybody know that. The pettiness, but thettiness that he said
- 1:00:14Speaker 4: that was like, no, it was.
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: And then did you guys did you see my response?
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: We did? I meant that from the bottom of my heart.
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: I meant that from the bottom of my heart. I'm
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: gonna spell you because I know you ain't like that.
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: I'm gonna spell you.
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: Look at.
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: You know I'm with it than when you get money,
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: like you gotta separate from certain I'm still my daddy's child. Oh,
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: I love the daddy child. My dadd ain't raised no
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: punk and I don't play no games. You know what
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I'm with all that I love. What
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: I'm gonna do is I'm gonna I'm gonna disconnect from
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: that situation because I don't play like that. You know
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because one thing what I said, I
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: spoke on them as Celtics players. I never spoke on
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: their accolades. I never spoke on what they're pomplished. Always
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: give them credit for that. Now you now you're on
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: some mother. I ain't playing that game basketball. I'm gonna
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: leave that alone. For I hurt you, and I mean that.
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: Put my glass back up. Put my glass back don't
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: understand this, dog, I do. I get on this podcast,
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: and I go meet with commissioners, and I go meet
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: with layers and I sit down. But boy, I'm still
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: in the hood every day, every day, and I still
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: got and I still got I still got. They own that.
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: I got to talk them off today. Man, we're too
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: old for that.
- 1:01:35Speaker 7: Right now, now that these guys glasses back on this
- 1:01:40Speaker 7: next thing, it is brought to you by Prize Picks,
- 1:01:43Speaker 7: I don't.
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: Stop, y'all asked there you go. But that's that's what like,
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: Like I said, that's that's real, that's real. No, but
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: you got your jersey retire. What was that moment like
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: for you? That was a great moment, man, for a
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: kid that's coming from Miami born and raised, you know
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like people have these these dreams where Oh,
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: I was walking down the street and I always knew
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: I was gonna buy my mam at this house. I
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: always knew I was gonna make it. I ain't know
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: what I was gonna make. I didn't know if I
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: was gonna buy my mama house. I ain't know what
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: the next day was gonna be like from me talked
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: about the mother, it really came out that you feel
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: me like homeboys going to funerals. I don't been in
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: the more funerals than I done have been the birthday parties.
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I got a closet full
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: of the Rest of Peace t shirts, you know what
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: I'm saying. And they ain't dying from natural causes, so
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I never had a
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: dream of oh, when I'm thirty or when I'm I
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: don't even know if I was gonna make it. What
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: I did was every day just hit the ground running,
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: kept my head down, stayed out of trouble, and just
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: pushed forward. Knocked me off my pivot. I got my
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: ass back up, you know what I'm saying, And this
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: is why I ended up. So it's just it's just
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: for me. It's just a product of the hard.
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: Work and no book, for real, there's no one deserves
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: more than him because you just saw I tell that
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: that's what he's done and what he accomplished is unbelievable.
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: No, I dropped them.
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: I dropped them with the airport to go overseas, and
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: I picked his ass up. He did, he did, and
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: I've seen where he came from like that. Like man,
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: I know everyone has a story, but he earned it
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: twenty years at that.
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: I mean, but that's great.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: What people don't understand is for a lot of people,
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: and Jeff, you can speak on this, it's very few
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: guys in this league that's gonna get to choose the
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: role they want. Of course, we all want to we
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: all want to choose our role. We all want to
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: be comfortable in our playing Indianapolact. It's maybe one of
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: two guys. It's maybe one of two guys that got
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: the role they want on a team. The rest of us.
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: You got to show that we can help these guys win.
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: So all the people at home don't get mad at
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: me because I showed that I can help people win
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: because I wasn't that guy. Okay, cool, that's fine not
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: being that guy. But I'm still just important. Like I
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: tell people, man, you got a bus driver, you got passages,
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: and you got the mother that's under the hood changing
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: the oil inizers. If I don't change the orthentizer, they moving,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: you feel me, So I gotta do. I gotta do
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: my part, and I did my part every time. I
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: did my part every time and made a lot of
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: money doing it. I ain't tripping fall into the rebounding
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: the record either, mother. So for everybody to sit at
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: home and say he don't deserve it, okay, I got
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: the rebound the record, offense reboud the record, defenseive rebound
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: the record, and Max and the regular defense rebound the record.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: So all iron man, I'm just thankful. But that's just
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: hard work.
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: Respect.
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: But I appreciate you bringing that up though. That was
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: big for the city. That was big for my people,
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: because it's also showing people from where I'm from. You
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you can make it. You know
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: what I mean.
- 1:04:23Speaker 4: You had a great career, bro, And I ain't gonna lie.
- 1:04:27Speaker 4: I'm jealous, Bro, I was I alwash Lena love me
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: like Fami, love.
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: You exactly what you do. But what you're doing here,
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: weald what you're doing here. I mean, we talked about
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: it early and I know you know, we got to
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: shut it down real quick. But just how you impact
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: in the city, coaching basketball, got your family involved a
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: lot of times when we come with these kids to
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: come from communities were broken home, they don't have their
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: father around. So to see you with your father, your
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: brother and just to have that that that that structure.
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: A lot of kids that come from where we come
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: from don't see that I'm saying. Then you said, I
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: heard you say you have a gym here. So you're
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: investing in your community, giving kids things to do besides
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: up man, you know what I'm saying. So that's that's
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: that should we spoke about. All people speak about. That's
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: the kind of people should be talking about. You invested
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: in your community too, so you know, big shout out
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: for that. Duh. I appreciate it for sure. You got
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: your homies on the pod. Which the things about it
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: is we always get to a certain level where you
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: fall out and all that. But y'all still together. No, definitely,
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: my guys man, we're trying to make it happen. But
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: before we get out of here, though we do have one.
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: I still got this money here. I got to carry this. Wait,
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: come on, I still got that. Look at them up,
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: still got this. I still got democratic speaking at the.
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: Mechanic, got prize picks Top Duels? Man, all right, what
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: we say, whatever we do one of these prize picks
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: top top five, what we say, don't what?
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: You better not say that last one? But don't what
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: you better not say that last.
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it whatever I want to say that
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: last week prize pick Top Duels.
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: All right, y'all at me, whatever y'all want to do.
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: A right Kyrie, Luca Lebron, Anthony Davis, the last one.
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: I love.
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: Joker, Murray, Kevin Durant, d Buok.
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: Go ahead, save him and Brown. That's it.
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: That's fine, Okay, we're up in the Damon Jannes, I
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: ain't got my top five. Explain to me who you're
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: taking out. That's the whole thing about this. I'm taking
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: Murray and Jokis up the champs.
- 1:06:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:06:26Speaker 4: I think Joki is fire. I think Murray is a
- 1:06:29Speaker 4: great player, unbelievable. But as a duo, I think this
- 1:06:34Speaker 4: year my pastor this year, I don't think he's top
- 1:06:38Speaker 4: five in the duo.
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: You what you got? Nothing? You like it? Don't like it?
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: I like that five? Like the five. You said, what's
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: the last one? Pollo and Fries, Baby, that's home cooking.
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: That's I love that, dude, nice bee five like that? Yeah,
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: he be fire like that. I like Paulo, I like
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: pall France personally, but they not the top five duo.
- 1:07:02Speaker 3: Right over.
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: The top five duo right now? What you got this?
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: Home cooking? That's home cooking for sure. It's yeah, he's
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: I'm biased Kyrie my first player, Kyrie Luker. Yeah, I
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: like that, do it though? I got Kyrie Luka what
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: you got?
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: Uh?
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: I'm gonna rock with a d and Broun I like that.
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: That's your best duo. So you got Dame Giannist.
- 1:07:25Speaker 4: Not the ain't the best duo all but they deserve
- 1:07:28Speaker 4: to be on that list. But my best duo had
- 1:07:30Speaker 4: to be Kyrie and Luca.
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: So nobody gonna say Paul Georgia and Kawhi. God's a
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: good one. They don't do the list list, what's your list?
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: What mylert? Listen? Listen? Nobody had money, nobody got, nobody
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: at home here, nobody at home going here. That this
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: is gonna beat his list, beat his list. Shantumntization number
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: one for sure, ship Bro, that's that's now. I'm gonna
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: go back. I'm gonna go back. And I would say
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: that Kawhi and Paul George I like that, dude.
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: I do too, taking off of their on that one. Franz, Well, yeah,
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: that's he'd be fine.
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: And Brown and Brown Celtics, So they ain't know my listening.
- 1:08:16Speaker 4: I think Paul George and Kawhi better than Tatum Brown
- 1:08:19Speaker 4: right now.
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: That's a great conversation. That's a great conversation. It's a
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: great conversation. They went up in Boston and dropped that ass.
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: If we might get well, we went up in Boston
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: handled their business, we might find out they're playing crazy
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: right now. Damn I got war in my month, Fronson.
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: So yeah, that would be a good finals though, would
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: be a great final. Boston Clippers damn.
- 1:08:45Speaker 5: Absolute, especially why James Harden playing before we get out here,
- 1:08:47Speaker 5: the fear of the Deer?
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: Can they win it with with with Doc coach them?
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: Can they win it with what you got going on
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: over their Milwaukee last? You're gonna last because I got
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: you know, you got something?
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: Could win it? Doctor is a He's not my favorite coach.
- 1:09:01Speaker 4: Like to watch the game, Like if I watch how
- 1:09:03Speaker 4: they run offense and how they play, it's not my
- 1:09:06Speaker 4: favorite coach. But I think they can win. I think
- 1:09:07Speaker 4: Pat Bev changed a lot for them. I think he's
- 1:09:10Speaker 4: gonna be great for their team. But I definitely think
- 1:09:12Speaker 4: they can win. But I don't.
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: I'm not banking on him. Uh but period of deer.
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: If I think they win, yeah they win the East,
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: they can, but I don't think they will. I mean,
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: I think when you know, first of all, I think
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: karma karme mother, she did the Adrian Griffin went cool
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: and you come out there and doing the goddamn what
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: were they do? What they do whatever? That Yeah, that's
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: karma man. Karma is man. So I don't, I don't.
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: I don't think that, you know, that they're gonna win it,
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: not for me. And then and also when you're in
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: a seven game series and it's not gonna show now
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: because you're playing one game a night. But when you
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: get in a seven game series, I think your habits
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: start to reveal themselves. And I think the reason why
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: they won't be a team like Boston it is because
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: of habits. You know what I'm saying. We we know
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: Doc and what he brings to the table, years of
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: experience a player coach, but he's not known for getting
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: guys out their comfort zone. It's kind of like, I'll
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: work with you and meet you in the middle. At
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: the end of the day. We're trying to win more championship.
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: I don't need to meet you nowhere but at the
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: goddamn parade. I don't need to meet you nowhere, but
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: at the parade. Mother, you got a job to do.
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: So I'm coming in here trying to make you feel uncomfortable.
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: I'm coming in here as a coach, trying to make
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: you comfortable. I've already lost you know what I'm saying,
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: So all that you could take a day off and
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: we want the coach that we want. Now, everything ain't
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: gonna go your way. Sometimes get comfortable being uncomfortable. So
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: in the seven game series, I feel like the habits
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: are gonna win out because I don't feel like Milwaukee
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: will have the habits that they need. So wrapping it up,
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: appreciate y'all coming in man for real. Appreciate the shirt.
- 1:10:48Speaker 4: Now, we gotta do it again. We gotta do it
- 1:10:51Speaker 4: in Miami up. Come to the city, City, We gotta
- 1:10:55Speaker 4: do it again. Yeah, we gonna come to the city nicely.
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: All good on the road, huh yeah, y'all travel wherever.
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: It's twenty five on the road. Hey, man, no know,
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: insist but real talk, but real talk man, y'all, y'all
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: five twenty is awesome.
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all.