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Comedian Sean Madden - #75 · The Grounded Show

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Yo. Man. So we're back again for another episode at the Grounded Show,
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and it's a nice little collaboration with Sean Madten. What's the official name
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of your podcast? I switched it to the Shawn matt Sean Mattens last year.
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All right, Yeah, what was it before the in the hall?
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In the hall? What was the origin of that? Getting kicked out of
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class? Just like talking shit with the It was the whole thing about like
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when you're in if you get kicked out of class, you're not the only
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kid in the hallway. There's hallway kids facts, you know, like you're
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just out there because you talk too much. But the kid next to you,
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like he had a gun in his backpack or like he stabbed the teacher.
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You you got to talk to him for ninety minutes till the cops come
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get Did you ever skip class? Like in high school? I didn't skip
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class, but I would just if I showed up to the school like parking
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lot and I already heard the warning bell like ding ding ding, I'm like,
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man, fuck this, I just I just went and got McDonald's breakfast.
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Yeah, Like, if you're going to be late, at least have
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some some food. I Remember we used to skip class, and it's like,
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when you think about it, it's the stupidest thing because you're still at
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school and the whole time you're skipping, you're just trying not to get caught
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skipping, you know what I mean, Like you're just kind of roaming the
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halls, and then you see other kids who were at school skipping. Yeah,
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that's the point exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like I think about
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it now, and it's like you would see other kids from Afar that were
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doing the same thing, and y'all just kind of like nod to each other.
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Just go learn the pythagory and theme. At that point, Bro said
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it hiding under the water fountain. Yeah, that's that's one thing that I
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wish I would have learned when I was younger, Like that, it's way
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harder to avoid work than just doing work. Yeah you know what I mean,
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Like you just go through so much trying to be lazy that it's like,
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Bro, just do it. It's just better for everybody if you just
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do it. Yeah, that's true. That's true for a certain extent.
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I did a golf course maintenance, and trust me, you'll do anything out
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the shovel sand. How was that? Where was it like a high end
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golf club or like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this is when I
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was really down bad, like nine months ago. For like three months,
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I would get up at like four in the morning to go like cut grass
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or I would, Bro, you'd have a miner's light on your forehead because
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you have to do it before the first like person tease off. So Bro,
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I'd have to do like mister Miyagi circles in the sand with the rake
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to make it look beautiful. Oh yeah yeah at like four am. Dog,
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it's snakes and shit. It's crazy, like thinking about the problems that
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were probably in your life at that time. And then the guy that went
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to the golf course probably really was like mad whenever those circles weren't there,
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you know what I mean, Like that's the stuff that bothered him. Bro.
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You would see the members and they would all be like hmm, oh
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a good day, you know, like cause it was like one hundred and
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ten thousand just to just to like sign up, and then you got to
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pay like three grand a month. Yeah, oh dude, get some paper
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towels. It already happened. I mean, all right, they just gotta
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let it happen to me. But yeah, I get one hundred and ten
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thousand for what for the initiation fee for the initiation and it was like your
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three grand a month. Dudes. Oh gosh, bro, one hundred and
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ten thousands. Yeah, just to be able to play golf somewhere. Yeah,
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he'd be weed whacking and they're like like Ferrari's pull up and you're like,
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well, the only thing I know about country clubs is what I see
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on Curb your Enthusiasm when they be hanging out in the country club, and
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they may be making them like wear a shirt with a collar when they're inside
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and stuff like that. They can't have their cell phones out and stuff.
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I'm like, dang, bro, that's really how it be in there.
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Yeah, no, it's uh. They don't really play games, man.
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I mean they play games, that's the whole thing. But they don't look
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they don't look like they're having any fun, you know what I mean.
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All they're dudes playing games, but they look like they're miserable. They're playing
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games with mad rules, Like you're not just in in the game, you're
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playing mad restrictions on it. Just like it's Karen golf. Like you ever
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seen people play croquet. That's how rich people were there. They like would
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bring their own mallet and then they and they were all white. I didn't
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know that was a thing, dude, kind of creepy, big white like
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sombrero hats and like all white. It looks like, get out. It's
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like, do you think it's just like it's it's just been a custom for
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so long that that's just all they know, Like you know what I mean,
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Like they always had money, Yeah, they always had money. They
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always did things like that, So it was just kind of like I think,
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so you know, I feel like you can be so rich or corny
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and that's what the that's what they are, yeah, to a certain point,
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Like and it's like it's happened since the beginning of time. I feel
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like like if you're coddled, you're just a cornball, you know what I
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mean. Like it always happens like if if you got everything and you don't
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really you know what I'm saying, Like it's kind of crazy to think that
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you doing better. You're kind of dooming your future generations, you know what
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I mean, because then they don't got to do as much and then it's
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like, well, your whole bloodline gets like weaker and weaker exactly. Now
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you're seeing like royalty crumble because it's like everyone's on TikTok, you know,
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and it's like you just act like a king and they're like, you know
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what I mean, no one cares anymore, bro. But it's just a
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structure. It's crazy too, because like they have those stories of certain like
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sons of kings or whatever that once their dad dies and they take over,
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they just like destroyed a whole you know, they destroyed a whole village or
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destroyed a whole empire because they're just being idiots, you know. They crashed
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the family chariot facts, you know, joy riding, and now it's like
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the family mayback or whatever. Bro, It's just the same thing over and
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over. Yes, Wow, I was reading about uh, one of the
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sons of one of the emperors in Rome, so it was Marcus Relius,
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and then his son's name was Comedists, and basically Commodists was one of those
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like we're talking about, like he's he was kind of lazy. He was
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always just had like a whole bunch of prostitutes and stuff like that. So
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when he became king, he ended up getting like six hundred prostitutes, like
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three hundred chicks and like three hundred dudes. And that's just like that was
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his whole like little click of like his he was banging everything. Bro,
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at that point, you gotta respect it. You know. He sounds like
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a bodega owner. I owner. Yeah, I mean he pretty much was
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when you think about it, he definitely was. Uh, you know,
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he had control of the grains. He's just making me each a lotus in
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the back. Speaking of oudego owners, you've seen that one dude on TikTok
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that he makes the like crazy sandwiches and stuff and be like, shit,
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I don't know if I've seen him. I've seen the one where the guy
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like it's like a game show. People are just trying to buy backwards and
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he's like there's a color. They're like, bro, come on, it's
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like in Chicago. Yeah. Yeah. Now there's this one in New York
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that he's like he just makes them gross New York things that like, for
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example, there's like a little food truck around here that's like a New York
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food truck, you know what I'm saying. And you know, I went
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to it and I felt like everything there was like gross, Like it's like
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over you know, like mad cheese or like you get what I'm saying.
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It's like like two extra. And then like the guy that I'm talking about,
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he'll do something where it's like he'll make a sandwich with like ground beef
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and fruit loops and cheese and he'll fry cheese sticks on it and he'll put
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it on the on the grill and like fry it all up. It's like
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it's crazy, bro. That's just like that weird kid in middle school that
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grew up that would like put his milk in the corn and shit, You're
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like, bro, what are you doing? But you know how like there's
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like a whole there's like a whole community now of like you just see a
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whole bunch of gross treats. Like people will put like cheeseburgers on pizzas with
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nachos and like put it in the front, you know, in the oven,
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and it's like what is that. It's the end of civilization. It's
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kind of like like comedists he had the six hundred horse. To a certain
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point, we just eat everything. It's like fuck it, just put it
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all together. I mean, yeah, it's just ancient hunter Biden. Hey,
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that's kind of like commonists when you think about it too, Like he's
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just the guy's son, just always privileged. Look what he's up to.
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This was this was this was BC before computers, more computers. Bro.
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You have the laptop, the communist laptop. You think he had like a
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tablet, like a literal tablet where he just had like everything like scratched in
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engraved on something like today, I got my dick stuck from every angle,
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you know, Like if they found that, they're like, oh my god,
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hieroglyphics is the egg planta? You know, it's crazy, man.
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I was talking to my boy the other day, like just about the concept
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that no matter what time period we're talking about, like the means were different,
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but the ideas were the same. People thought the same thing, you
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know what I mean, Like emotions were the same. Emotions don't really change,
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you know what I mean. Oh it's crazy, bro. I got
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long story short. I got stuck in a mall in France with like credit
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cards denying because like I forgot to let him know I was going overseas.
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So I was just like sitting on a bench in a mall in France and
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just watching people interact with their kids and I'm like, it's all the same,
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dude. They're just slapping their kid with like, you know, with
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a different accents. We You're like, it's the same shit, dude,
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Yeah, this kid's fucking up the kid that the kid that runs in the
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mall fall starts crying. It's the same. It's just the same. We're
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all human, yep. But they just have a dumb accent. I always
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find it funny like certain people, and it's it's usually people that I don't
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travel as much that love to romanticize the location, like like if, like
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you said, like if the people were different there or something like that,
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right, And it's like, although to us, I feel like to a
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certain aspect, people are a little different places, but just from the point
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of view of like some places will be a little nicer. When you go
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to like a more busy city, people are a little more rude because they're
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just kind of just joke. Yeah, they're a little more just trying to
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do their thing type. See tourists as like, get out of my way,
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bro, I'm not here on vacation. Yep. You know what I
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mean this is my livelihood. Yeah, man, I lived in Pennsylvania for
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like three months. I came right back, bro, because when I was
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out there, it was just it made me miserable. So I understood why
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they were miserable, you know what I'm saying, Like, because I went
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out there and in the middle of the winter, you know, there was
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a blizzard. You got to wake up like mad hours before to like get
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somewhere because there's like snow everywhere, and you got to like defrost the car
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and stuff. Yo. Imagine you're getting up to start your day and before
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you even accomplish anything, it's been like three or four hours of you doing
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work. Oh yeah, your morning, dig your car out, dig your
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car out, slow drive, you know all that stuff. It just and
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then three four hours later then it's like, oh, now I'm at work
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and I have to work a whole shit to then do the same thing on
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my way back home, like and then find parking crazy. Man, nah
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Man, I don't shout out to the people that I live up north because
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nah man, bro, I lived it for like three years as a kid.
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The snow is fantastic, yeah, but I was like every time it
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snowed. I'd see like my dad like getting mad, and I'm like it's
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a wonderful time of the year, and he's like, yeah, I gotta
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shovel this shit. Yeah, you know, it's like always like a pain
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in the ass, and I'm throwing snowballs building snow man. You know it's
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funny, man, because when me and my brother when we moved up there,
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the first time we saw snow was up there, and we're originally from
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Puerto Rico, Like I was born in Puerto Rico, So I'm definitely not
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like a cold guy at all, you know what I mean. So like,
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boy, yeah, facts, when that first snow hit, it was
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the middle of the night too, we ran out like, oh man,
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this is crazy. The snow whatever. He made a snowball through it at
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me. That shit hurt. I was so pissed. It's probably more ice
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than yeah, yeah, exactly. It was basically like he just made an
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ice ice cube and just threw it at my face. Puerto Rican snowball.
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That's a Puerto Rica snowball. That's how you know. We was rookies,
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you know what I mean, Like we over here putting the ice together,
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throwing fucking first degree assault with the deadly weapon. Yeah, those are the
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window breakers right there. That's like a golf ball coming at you. Yeah.
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Bro, you got to get the powdery stuff. Yeah. I don't
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know now that you mentioned that. We went to Colorado on for twenty a
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couple of years in a row, but the first time that we went,
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it just happened to snow that time, like, and the people that lived,
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like all the uber drivers and everything were telling us like, oh,
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it's rare that the snow is just late in the year, you know what
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I'm saying. Yeah, but it snowed like close to like one of the
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top of the mountains. We're high as fuck. Dog, it starts snowing
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like and like the clouds are underneath us. It's snowing on a mountain.
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The sun's speaking, I'm doing a fucking snow angel. You know. It's
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for a twenty dog. It was like I felt like I was on top
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of the world that day, you know what I mean, Like especially not
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seeing that was my first time seeing like mountains like that, you know what
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I mean. Like I had seen mountains before, but not like you know,
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a mile up type stuff. And you know why, you really enjoyed
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it because you didn't have to drive down the mountain to go to work exactly.
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Otherwise you'd be like fuck, yeah, yeah, but yeah you're doing
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snow angels yep, not clocking in. Yeah, I can't even. Man,
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it's different when it's like an inconvenient because snow can be an inconvenience.
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Yeah, but if you're like I mean, I lived in in a long
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Beach, New York, and one of my favorite things was we had like
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a deck like a patio, and we would just put the beer and like
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all our stuff just in the snow. It was like just like an outdoor
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cooler. So we go out there. It was just like a vibe.
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I used to see people up there that would have like a jacuzzi built into
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the ground, like in their yard or in their backyard, and they would
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just be out there when it was snowing. Yeah. I saw that a
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lot in Pennsylvania. Yeah, because you're like sitting in a hundred degree water
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and you'll see them like melting around you. You'll see them get out like
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walking with the swim suit on, you know, because their body is still
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hot and everything. It's like a crazy snow you know what I mean yeah,
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but yeah, man, when when I came across you, it was
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like seeing all that Florida Man stuff and like those different things. And then
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I went and seen you. You were on the lineup with Jari and it
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was funny as hell, and I kind of wanted to ask you like when
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you started doing comedy and also like what kind of led to you kind of
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catching a vibe with like the Florida Man stuff and the interviews you was doing
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as the Florida Man. Yeah, so getting into stand up. I just
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kind of ended up being a loser in California. I ended up out there
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like doing a sales gig and it like fell apart at the office. So
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I was like living with like a coworker I barely knew, and he went
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home on Thanksgiving. I didn't have the money for like a ticket to go
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back to Florida. So I'm just like out there in California just like I
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was fat. Bro. I was like eating like a ham sandwich on Thanksgiving,
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and I was watching like every special like anything to just like make me
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laugh, you know what I mean, because I was just like down bad.
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Yeah, yeah, So I was like I'll watch you know, pretty
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much every comedy thing I could find, listen to anything podcast, and then
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I was like, I really think I could do this, Like I don't
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know, like I could figure it out, like I knew. It was
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like a bold statement of being, like having no experience in being like I
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could do that, because that's just like what everybody says. But everybody that
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I was listening to would say, like, move to New York City.
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That's where you got to start because it's the most stage time. So like
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for the next two years, I had my wallpaper on my phone of the
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club stand up in New York because I'm like, oh, I want to
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perform there. And like just after two years, I just like ended up
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in New York City just were you're doing comedy in those two years or b
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I just like, I'm going to start in New York City. Because you
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ever read the thirty three Strategies of War, So there's this thing called death
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ground where generals would literally put their troops up against mountains to where they couldn't
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retreat because when your back's like against the wall, you fight twice as hard,
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so they'd win more battles, putting them in shitty situations. So it's
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like a thing to that. So I knew if I'd just like trap myself
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in New York City, I'd have no other Stewart. Yeah, I like
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all either it orld just be like the funniest homeless person you know. And
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I had like four hundred dollars in a saturn I on two thousand and three
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and just mobbed up there. I remember driving through New York City the first
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night, just being like, what did I do? You drove from?
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I drove from Ohio. So I was selling alarms in Ohio door to door
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because that's like door to door sales is what I've always done. So I
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was in Ohio want a blitz, that's what they call it. And I
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was just in a neighborhood and I was like, dude, I'm closer than
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I ever will be to New York City. I'm like four hours I think
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it was like four or seven hours something like that. And I left at
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like three am, just fucking dipped on the company. And uh yeah,
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I had a hotel in New York for two weeks and I just like figured
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it out, bro. But it was nuts and had the time of my
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life. Dude, taking that risk, like some of the best years of
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my life. Bro, like the first two years in New York City,
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just not knowing what the hell to do. I could imagine. Man,
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New York is one of those places that literally looks like how it looks in
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the MOS when you go out there, like it's like mad, like like
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it's impressive, you know what I mean. Can't smell the movies, but
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the smell is the four D. The fort changes everything. But now there's
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nothing like New York City. Man, It'll forever have a place in my
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heart. That's where I got good at comedy because I feel like yourself going
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back there, Oh for sure, dude. I still have like really good
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friends there that are like like, shout out Nick to Lelly. He got
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past it a few clubs now. So it's like that's the dream. Is
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Like, it's one thing to be a New York stand up comedian, but
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to like be living off comedy in your city, especially in New York,
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that's like an accolade. Man. Everybody wants to be a New York comedian,
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you know, at least coming up. Yeah, So, so what
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what's the what's the aspect of New York comedy that's different than the aspect of
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like Orlando comedy, Well, I think it's just stage time, man,
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and uh, Orlando is about to change for the better twenty twenty four.
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I know that for a fact. It's just the lack of venues, bro.
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And there's no scene. There was no there's a scene now, but
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there was no like there's no other big names, Orlano's kind of a ghost
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town as far as stand up or like, I feel like a lot of
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live performance. But I feel like a lot of talented people come out of
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Florida. It's just they always feel like they have to leave the state.
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And that was the same way bro. Like I never started in Florida.
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Yeah, but I knew it has a scene and it's growing. And so
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I think the difference, man, is you can go on stage eight times
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a night if you want to. In New York. You might have to
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pay a couple five dollars for five minutes spots like pay to play. Yeah,
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but if you really want that stage time, I mean you could.
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You can get an hour of stage time over like eight to ten spots in
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New York City at night and they're all right there. You walk, take
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the uber, take the subway, and it's just like a it's every night,
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just like it's a movie, bro. You know, but it really
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is. I think that's the difference. Bro. It's just like the raw
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going down in the basements to tell jokes, going into like a fire hazard
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situation, to sling a dick joke. It's like, oh man, it's
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all worth it. It is. I have this like little theory where it's
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like, I mean, it's not like an exclusive theory, but I always
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feel like you got to pay the cost no matter what, you know what
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I mean. Like some people pay, like literally pay the cost by going
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to school, you know what I mean, where they're putting themselves in one
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hundred thousand dollars a debt to say this is what's gonna pay my bills and
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this is how I'm gonna go forward. Some people do it, you know,
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go to the army and they're literally you know, boot camp and away
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from their family, and they're doing the sacrifice that way, you know what
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I mean. But everybody always has to I don't want to say take that
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l but it's like it's sweat equity exactly, Like you're not you're not gonna
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ever jump in the situation and be like good, like well off, you
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know what I mean. And I feel like that's the part that be the
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barrier for all people where they just don't understand that. It's like you're always
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gonna have to be the corny one. You're always gonna have to figure it
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out that you know, whatever you're trying to do, it's not always gonna
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land. And that reality is I feel like what holds a lot of people
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back, you know what I mean? Oh, it's held me back man
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like up until I would say, probably like eight months ago, as just
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being like I don't give a fuck in the sense of like, yeah,
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even if the next forty podcast episodes suck, I'm still gonna do them because
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it's just you get better every time or you or you come up with a
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thought or an idea that leads to something better, but just be just being
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messy with it, man Like I always thought everything happened to be perfect.
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It just delays your your greatness so to speak, because you're just holding yourself
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back at that point and then kind of like going off what you're saying when
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you're doing the creative stuff. Your quote unquote resume is like the things you've
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done, you know what I mean. And like a lot of creative people
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don't understand that you never doing anything, it closes doors for you, you
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know what I mean, because people aren't going to reach out because they see
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that you're not working, right, you know what I mean. And if
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people see that you're not working, why would they put work your way?
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You know what I mean. And it's like a concept that people kind of
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don't understand, like you got to you gotta create some movement for people to
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want to move with you, you know what I mean. It goes back
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to that thing of if you're just sitting in your car with the flashers on
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and you're like, oh, man, you know, I wish someone was
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here to help me push my car. But if people see you pushing your
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car, they'll pull over and just help you push a stranger's car to the
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gas station. Facts. That's a perfect complete stranger bro. And it's the
22:57
same thing like I'm one hundred and twenty five episodes or whatever deep into the
23:03
podcast and I'm like not being patient with I'm like, dude, you've only
23:08
been doing it two years. It's it's a complete reset. It's just like
23:11
stand up, Like I'm seven seven to eight years in the stand up,
23:15
but I'm only two years into podcasting, so it's not going to be as
23:18
good as the stand up because it's a completely different format. But just building
23:23
that catalog right now, Like even on YouTube, I have two one hundred
23:29
and twenty four more episodes or more pieces of content on YouTube that people are
23:33
finding as I'm sleeping. So it's like having that catalog and people want to
23:38
see the progression. Man. Fact, go back and listen to your favorite
23:41
podcasts or your favorite artists, like first couple songs, You're gonna be like,
23:45
ooh, no, wonder they didn't blow up at that time. That'd
23:49
be the thing too, man. And you know, I feel like we've
23:52
all been guilty of it. It's like sometimes you get a little restless and
23:56
kind of feel like, dang, why am I not geting my opportunity.
24:00
It's like you're not there yet, you know what I mean. And that's
24:02
a hard reality for people, you know, just to really understand, like,
24:06
yeah, you're getting better and you're figuring it out, but you're not
24:10
there yet. You haven't that like you said, that sweat equity is not
24:12
there. I've had that conversation with myself a lot too, is like,
24:17
yeah, you're good, but you're not great. You're not you know,
24:23
there's so many comedians out there, why would why would they pay to watch
24:27
your act? And if you have that like honest conversation, not only do
24:33
you like really get in the books and like start writing or like just being
24:37
it makes you be more creative, like forcefully, I can't explain it.
24:41
Yeah, but you almost will your way into like bettering yourself. Yeah,
24:45
that you were like the second and third person that's told me that recently.
24:48
So I definitely gotta do it. I'm gonna get a nice little notebook and
24:51
start doing that. Do it, bro. But that that kind of makes
24:55
me think also of like a concept that I always argue with is like,
24:59
you know, you always see these things on Instagram and stuff. People are
25:02
saying like, oh, support your friends, like you support these celebrities whatever,
25:07
whatever, But it's like I look at it the other way, Like,
25:10
brother, people around you never signed up to be a fan of your
25:12
type of content, you know what I mean, Like just because they mess
25:17
with you, like people don't think like maybe these people don't consume this kind
25:22
of content period, you know what I mean? Like for us to think
25:26
that the people around us have to support just because we decided to do something.
25:30
It's kind of like to me, it's like kind of naive. And
25:33
also like you gotta find your people, you know what I mean, Like
25:34
shout out to my boy Freddie. He helps me a lot with like the
25:37
music marketing and promotion and stuff. He's the one that really put that in
25:42
my brain, like you got to find a fans of your music, you
25:45
know what I'm saying, Like, don't try to make people around you like
25:49
you. Already everybody that messages like that that is around you, they've already
25:55
decided if they're going to listen to your music or not. Go look for
25:57
other people. You're being the the kid that has to sell chocolate bars to
26:02
go on the field trip, and you're just hitting up everybody you know,
26:04
like you want to buy some chocolate, and it's like, no, dog,
26:07
I don't even eat chocolate. That's your podcast, that's your music,
26:11
that's your stand up. So yeah, I get that, bro. And
26:15
it's also like people are so people that aren't in the entertainment industry, they
26:21
don't understand like the lifestyle or how you have to operate in order to achieve
26:26
the level of success you want in that particular industry. And seeing that is
26:32
like, I gotta be less Like I don't know, people ask me the
26:38
same comedy question over and over and over again, just like every day or
26:42
anytime I meet someone new. It's like, so, you know, how
26:45
do you come up with your skits? Do you know what you're gonna say
26:48
when you go on stage? And it's it's copy and paste for everybody.
26:53
But I gotta be more, Like I gotta just be more understanding of that.
26:59
I'm like, yeah, it's got to be weird because this is a
27:00
weird ass thing that I do. Yep. And it's like those people that
27:04
have never even stepped in a comedy club or never have like even put themselves
27:08
out there for anything, they'll ask you because a lot of times they're impressed
27:12
by it, you know what I mean. It's something especially with comedy,
27:15
man Like it's something everybody always says, but comedy is super brave. Bro
27:19
Like you're standing up in a room full of strangers, like trying to because
27:23
it's not to me, it's not just jokes, Like you're trying to relate
27:27
through the joke. You know what, I say, like, at least
27:30
that's how I feel like whenever you're listening to comedy, because if it was
27:33
just somebody just straight trying to be funny, you know, I don't feel
27:37
like it would be the same thing as somebody really telling a story and making
27:41
it funny, you know what I mean? Yeah? And I think when
27:45
you asked me before earlier before we recorded, was like, what's your twenty
27:48
twenty four goals? And I think one of them is also to like take
27:52
time to tell a story and not just have these jokey jokes or like funny
27:57
thoughts, would actually like be more vulnerable on stage and like I guess share
28:04
more a piece of like who I am. Yeah, And just like that
28:08
makes me think about that show that you were at too, the comedy competition
28:14
that Jari put on. Remember the guy that got towards the end of the
28:17
competition, he was just saying he ran out of he ran out of material
28:21
two rounds ago, and was talking about how he just started doing comedy.
28:25
He didn't have enough material for this, but people thought it was funny because
28:26
he was just saying some real stuff. And then he went on to talk
28:30
about his life and like his wife and stuff, and it was just like
28:33
naturally relatable and funny, and that's what won that round for him, because
28:40
it's just people want the real now, bro, people are people see right
28:44
through the fake shit? Now. Yeah, people are way too smart and
28:47
also way too dumb. That's why. That's why I feel like the reps
28:52
are so good, Like you're saying, like going Like, for you,
28:55
it's going to different clubs and working on material and stuff. For me is
28:57
being locked in the studio. It's like you're you're just trying to be honest,
29:04
but you're refining your skill to do your honesty in a way more clever
29:10
way than a normal person would, You know what I mean? Because yeah,
29:14
being honest is easy, But being honest in a way that you can
29:18
captivate an audience. Being honest in a way that you can make people laugh
29:21
and think about what you said and relate it to their lives and stuff like,
29:23
that's a different thing, you know what I mean? Oh, for
29:26
sure. And going back to why you do it in the first place,
29:30
you know, like I got in a stand up because I was like alone
29:37
and like fucking sad and shit, and uh, I'm like, oh,
29:41
I want to I want to be. I want to be adding to the
29:45
content of somebody else who needs like a laugh, or someone who's like on
29:48
the way to work of a job that they hate, but they got that.
29:52
They got that six am laugh on the way to work because it's like
29:56
something I wrote or said, like once you go back to like want to
30:00
have fun with it, Yeah, changes everything bro facts and even like for
30:06
example, like with me with the music, there was like a time period
30:08
where I was just like, even up until very recently, that I was
30:11
just trying to make the best music I could. But like that was literally
30:15
my mentality. I wasn't like we were saying, I wasn't trying to tell
30:18
a story with it. I wasn't trying to think, Okay, what vibe
30:22
do I want to give this? I was just like, yo, I
30:23
want to make the best music I can and trying to make bangers exactly.
30:27
And then I realized it's like I can't just try to make the best music
30:32
I can. I got to figure out what's going to be the message with
30:36
these things, like what are the topics, Like what's what's going to be
30:40
the twists and turns in the song? Like we got to figure out the
30:42
bones of it first, you know what I mean, that's their soul exactly
30:45
exactly, and no feel it too. Like some of the best albums,
30:49
you're just like you can feel that that person really took their time and like
30:56
made something masterful. So so check this out. I want to get your
31:00
opinion on this because in music, they always say that after somebody drops their
31:04
first album, it's only downhill from there because their first album is kind of
31:08
like their whole life. Well it's that, yeah, the sophomore jinks what
31:11
they call it. So do you think that that kind of principle translates to
31:18
comedy, because I feel like comedy is much less like common that somebody like
31:22
their first special is like their greatest special, you know what I mean,
31:25
Like sometimes it'll be like the second or third, you know what I mean,
31:27
a lot of it, I mean for some some some people only have
31:32
one special, you know. But I think it's the same way. I
31:37
think. I think the more money you make in comedy, the less funny
31:40
you get. It's harder because after a show, when you get on a
31:44
private jet, I feel like, you know, I hope I never mail
31:48
it in, But yeah, I think I think the more comfortable you get,
31:55
the less they're the less of your edge is there. Do you think
32:00
certain people like always think, like Kanye comes to mind, Like, do
32:05
you ever think some artists kind of subconsciously torture themselves to not sacrifice their art
32:12
Because I've always kind of felt like there's certain people that they'll just get to
32:15
such a comfortable place that they just create chaos themselves because they just kind of
32:21
like that feeling of the friction, you know what I mean. I think
32:23
a lot of it goes to self sabotage, you know, like some people
32:29
are some people are scared of success, and so though purposely sidetrack themselves or
32:37
ruin theirselves, because once you go into that, that's a different people take.
32:42
People don't like change, even if it's for like positive change. And
32:45
I've been a victim of that too, of like I've turned down certain business
32:50
opportunities to not get pulled out of the comedy world. Yeah, and sometimes
32:57
you sit there broke, or like you get paid thirty bucks for a show
33:00
and you're like, damn dog, I should have did the financial opportunity.
33:07
But then you have those guys that are in that looking at and looking at
33:12
what you're doing, and they're like, man, it's so cool that you're
33:14
like following what you want to do because like the money is only a piece
33:19
of it. Yeah, Money's a funny thing, man. Like I was
33:23
when I was like in high school, there was like a little time period
33:27
where I was homeless. Like it wasn't that long, but like it was
33:30
like something that I always always put it in perspective for me, like how
33:35
unimportant money is, you know what I mean, Because when you hit that
33:37
rock bottom, it's like you kind of really see that, like if you
33:43
you go up, you go down. You know what I'm saying, Like
33:46
you just got to live your life no matter what's going on, and you
33:50
can always find a way to navigate, you know what I mean. I
33:52
feel like a lot of people kind of lead with their money situation instead of
33:58
saying, Okay, I know I need to do certain things. You know
34:01
I need you know, you need to make changes to get out of it.
34:04
Let's let's change up this routine, you know what I mean, instead
34:07
of just focusing every day all I don't got money. You know, It's
34:09
kind of like what you were saying earlier, like you fell down and out
34:13
and you came up with a plan, you put it in an action,
34:15
and it propelled you to a better situation, right if you were just kind
34:19
of sitting around like dang, I'm broke, like this sucks, you know
34:22
what I mean, Like, you got to just keep it going, bro,
34:24
You got to keep going man, Like there's a beauty in the struggle
34:30
and rock bottom, dude, Like when you have nowhere to go but up,
34:36
that's that can be so powerful. You know. I remember my car
34:39
was out for repo, and like every time I hear like a tow truck
34:43
or like a beep, I'd run outside. Yeah, and it was like
34:46
it would be like an Amazon like backing out of the neighborhood. And I'm
34:51
like I remember, like I got my car, Toad, and then every
34:54
time I heard a beep, I'd freak out. But then I'm like,
34:57
nah, I already got my car, Toad. Yeah. Yeah, the
34:59
worst thing that could happen has happened. But now it's all right, let's
35:04
get another car, you know what I mean. Like, you got to
35:06
just keep going, bro. Like people are scared to like they say,
35:10
like forty grand kills a lot of dreams. People are scared till I've never
35:15
heard that. That's crazy. People are scared to just have their like back
35:19
up against the wall, bro, or like the new thing now is like,
35:22
oh, if I leave, I won't have health insurance or dental insurance.
35:25
And it's like, Bro, you're gonna give up your dreams for dental
35:29
insurance And Bro, that's crazy that you put it that way, because it's
35:30
really like it's such a low amount of money to just like crush your soul,
35:36
you know what I'm saying, Like just to agree to just be a
35:38
little robot, you know what I mean, Like I'm gonna take this money
35:42
and just be unhappy, like cause there's no my thing. Bro. Is
35:45
like there's no way anybody could tell me that the presence set a situation like
35:52
the present situation that we're all in with this working and all this shit.
35:55
Ain't nobody happy doing it? Bro, I don't care what anybody says.
36:00
Nobody wants to go to work like that, you know what I'm saying.
36:04
Everybody wants to I feel like everybody does want to accomplish something in their day
36:09
and feel like they did something, But everybody don't want to be going to
36:13
work. Dog. So it's like like you said, man, so many
36:15
people just agree to just be a part of that situation and have you know,
36:22
somebody they don't respect telling them what to do. And you know what
36:25
I mean, it's just kind of crazy to me, man, Like I
36:29
always it always kind of blows my mind that people don't realize how much in
36:34
control they are of their own life, you know what I mean, Like
36:36
it's your life. You're the one making the decisions, you're the one choosing
36:38
the path, you choose how people treat you, You choose how you treat
36:42
people, and for you to just maneuver yourself into like a corner, it
36:46
just doesn't make any sense to me. You know, it's your avatar,
36:50
dude, Like when you start looking at it as like you're just in this
36:54
thing, like you can really go and get it, like you really can.
37:00
But I feel like we're in it to do it the best that we
37:04
can, you know what I mean. Like it's just like I said,
37:07
it'd be wild. I mean, think about people just not even thinking outside
37:12
of their day to day problems, you know what I mean. Yeah,
37:16
it's really it's really consuming, you know what I mean. And there's a
37:20
lot of distractions now, man, and you have to avoid that at all
37:22
costs. You know, you have your people think because they have a nine
37:27
to five, they can't do anything else, bro. But you can have
37:29
a you come home, you have a six to nine, take that hour,
37:31
break, shower, whatever you got to do, and then work from
37:36
six to nine on your side business, your hustle, your art, and
37:39
then you have now you have now you have three say you do that money
37:43
through Friday. You put fifteen hours into your craft or your side business.
37:47
Do that for two years. Now you don't have the nine to five.
37:52
Now you can spend all the time on your craft. Like that's the dream,
37:54
bro, is to give the peace sign. Yeah, but now you
37:59
have to work twice as hard. But it's something that you give a shit
38:00
about exactly. That's the difference, bro. Like I'll put eighty hours a
38:05
week into comedy if I could, you know, because that it is work,
38:09
but like the editing and all that, it's for like the ultimate purpose.
38:13
Yeah. And then eventually you can have you can have a team,
38:15
you can hire a camera guy, you can hire an editor, but you
38:20
need like I feel like that's where I'm at, dude. It's like I
38:22
kind of need a unit. Yeah, and it kind of goes back to
38:25
what we were saying earlier, like if you don't create that motion, nobody's
38:29
gonna want to help you out, you know what I'm saying, Like people
38:31
don't want to most of the time. People don't want to get you off
38:36
the ground. They want to help you elevate, you know what I mean.
38:38
Like, and that's the thing, Like it's exactly what you said about
38:43
pushing the car, Like you got to push the car yourself if you want
38:45
anybody to help you, you know, like, yeah, not many people
38:46
go zero to sixty with you, but like sixty two, one hundred,
38:51
they'll like haul out, you know what I mean, Let's do it,
38:52
like let's go yeah, cause, but but everybody. That's the thing that
38:57
you have to bring something to the table exactly. I always like it kind
39:00
of like I said earlier, like you got to look at it from their
39:02
point of view, like if they're going to sacrifice their time, if they're
39:06
going to sacrifice what they're doing, like their comfort, you gotta be you
39:09
gotta be doing something that they gotta feel like is really something worth being around.
39:15
And also like this is the thing that people don't realize is if you're
39:21
on if you're affiliated with somebody or or their affiliated with you, is your
39:25
representation of them. So if you're like you know, if you're like sloppy
39:30
not showered out of shape, like, no one's gonna want you in their
39:34
crew, regardless of oh you're funny and you're talented. It's like you gotta
39:39
come correct, you have to have everybody has to be on point exactly.
39:45
That's what it is. You got to be on point. And that's that's
39:47
the hard part for a lot of people, just because it's a work that
39:51
comes along with it, you know what I mean. I always think about
39:52
this thing. Andre d. Thousands said on the Rick Ruben podcast a long
39:55
time ago. It was not long time ago, It probably like four or
40:00
five years ago by now, but he was basically just talking about with making
40:05
music. He always kind of understood that like the repetition and the work that
40:10
you're putting into it, into the craft is what gets you to the next
40:15
level. Just even from the aspect of you recording and practicing, that builds
40:22
up the strength and those facial muscles, you know what I mean. Then
40:25
those muscles are stronger, and then you could do other vocal things that you
40:29
couldn't do before you could last a little you know, you have a little
40:31
more breath, you know exactly. And it's like when he said that,
40:34
it was like, dang, Like it makes sense. Like you're literally by
40:37
working, you're literally learning, you're getting better, you're seeing what not to
40:42
do. Because I feel like that's like another big thing for people. They
40:45
don't recognize the value of like doing something wrong because it at least tells you
40:51
I'm not gonna do it that way, and you're eliminating it off the bat,
40:54
you know what I mean, You're never gonna go down that road again
40:57
because you already know that's not for me, that work. And it's you
41:00
know what I'm saying, for whatever reason, Nah, So whenever that comes
41:04
up again, you're already just pushing it off to the side. It's like,
41:07
yeah, that's not for me, it don't work. Yeah, if
41:08
it doesn't work, it's not for you. Get rid of it. Fact
41:12
in any aspect. Yeah, it's it's a great point, bro. That's
41:15
I think that's why I fall in love with comedy so much, is because
41:17
it's just you get the instant gratification of like, hey, that thing that
41:22
you wrote didn't get a laugh. Yeah, So now you can go home,
41:25
you can be like damn, I suck, or you can rewrite it.
41:29
And it's crazy how like you switch one word or one sentence and now
41:31
it's like it hits. Yeah, everybody's clapping and you're like, wow,
41:37
it's just a it's you gotta know what's funny. But it's also a puzzle.
41:40
Yeah, and figuring out the formula. And I think that you know,
41:44
with music and everything, everything has like this little formula to it,
41:46
and it's just constantly playing with that the process of it. Patience and then
41:53
speaking slow. That's the thing that I've been working on is like just take
41:59
your Yeah, when you take your time, people see like okay, he's
42:05
he's like in the pocket. Yeah, you know people people can read you
42:08
like like that. Bro. Yeah, that that is definitely a good point.
42:14
Like when people recognize that you're like seasoned, you know what I mean,
42:16
they kind of perk up a little bit because they know they're about to
42:21
hear some shit as opposed to like, you know, feeling the amateur vibe.
42:24
Yeah, the body language, man psychology, that's the one thing I
42:30
wish that I you know, if I did go to college, I would
42:31
just take like a year of psychology, just even if it was like the
42:36
basics. Yeah, because like I've been in sales for a long time and
42:38
it's just I'm just so fascinated bro about like the human mind. Yeah,
42:44
things and stuff yo, speaking about like stuff that works. The way you
42:49
kind of came across my radar before I've seen you at the show that you
42:52
were you and Jari were on, was the Florida Man stuff that you were
42:55
doing. Would you say that that's like directly tied like where you grew up
43:00
or in a way. Yeah. So I moved to Bradington when I was
43:05
young, and it was just like cows and you could smell, you know,
43:07
if it was a windy day, you could smell the cowshit, like
43:10
on that kind of level. When I like we moved there when I was
43:14
like eleven, and it was like a culture shock because I grew up in
43:17
like DC area. Okay, so yeah, I would just I would make
43:21
fun of like, you know, I was the only one in school that
43:23
wasn't wearing a cameo jacket. I didn't go hunting, yeah, you know,
43:27
I didn't have a big truck, never like was into that. Now
43:31
I think it's like hilarious. But yeah, I was in La Man and
43:35
I uh I ordered the Florida Man hat. It was like the it's a
43:40
cameo hat with a mullet attached to it, okay, And I was gonna
43:45
go to Rodeo Drive, call it Rodeo Drive because that's just what. And
43:50
I was gonna like ask where like the gun shop or the pawn shop or
43:52
the best pro to like a bunch of rich people or like a bunch of
43:57
you know Persian Yeah, yeah people and shit, and just cause a scene
44:02
you know what I mean down there and uh pandemic happened. So now I
44:07
just have like the smullet thing, and I was like, I'm gonna do
44:09
the Florida Man. And my friends were telling me out there, they're like,
44:13
Florida Man is like that's the character, bro, Like that's the way
44:16
out. And I'm just like whatever, it's a fucking mullet hat. But
44:21
then yeah, like I would just play around with it, and I started
44:23
making sketches and then like I put a few tiktoks out and they got like
44:29
a couple of million views and stuff, and I'm like all right, there's
44:30
something here. And then I ended up just I was applying for jobs and
44:35
I was doing a bunch of interviews, but no one was hiring. At
44:37
the end of the day, no one was hiring me for some reason.
44:39
It was like a front, like everyone's hiring urgently but not hiring anybody.
44:45
Yeah, and so I'm like, well, if I'm gonna be doing five
44:47
zoom interviews a day and not getting hired, I might as well just troll.
44:52
So I put the Florida man hat on and just kind of like made
44:54
a whatever job I was applying for, I'd make like some weird backstory.
45:00
A lot of it was off the top of my head because I didn't know
45:01
what they were gonna say, so I'd play off of them. And it
45:05
was like, it's just fun dude, and I might. I might do
45:07
a bunch more. That's all people want for me now, Yo, it's
45:10
funny because it's funny you saying that. It made me think about it,
45:15
Like all the times that I've gone to California, they like know right away
45:19
you from Florida, Like they hear it in your voice. They for some
45:22
reason they know it from your outfits. You know what I mean, like
45:27
one of the things that they that they were saying out there too, is
45:30
like that we wear a lot of shorts. Yeah you know what I mean,
45:32
Like I guess out there they don't really wear shorts like that, but
45:35
they wear jeans and flip flops and it's like, bro, what are you
45:37
doing? Yeah, they don't pick a lane. They'll have like a beanie
45:42
and like a tank top. I will say this though about California. Man,
45:45
Like you remember when you would watch like because you grew up in Florida
45:50
too, so remember you will watch like a Disney show or whatever when you
45:53
was young and the kid is like at the beach in a hoodie and you
45:58
was like, what the fuck is he doing? Wear? You gotta be
46:01
hot as fun because you're just thinking about Florida, right, you know what
46:05
I mean. But then you go out to California and you see, like
46:08
what it's like out west Yo. That weather it's just like if you've never
46:14
been out there and you've never experienced it, that weather is perfect. Like
46:17
you understand why it's expensive to live out there. Southern California is the probably
46:23
the best climate on earth, right like sixty eight And just like Sonny so
46:30
it's like cold but sunny. You can't even explain it, Yo, everything's
46:35
room temp. We shot a video one time in La and after the video
46:40
was done, I caught a tan, but I never sweated. Yeah,
46:45
it was like a great way. I thought about it, and I'm like,
46:46
I'm looking in the mirror. I'm like, dang, I got mad
46:50
tan. That's a bar. Bro. Yo, it's crazy. It's crazy
46:52
you out here. You step outside and you're instantly baking. Bro, It's
46:59
like the worst. I don't even like getting dressed in the summer, you
47:00
know what I mean, because like you don't even feel clean, like you
47:04
can we wear a nice outfit in your sweating immediately when you walk outside of
47:07
the stains and ship it's the worst. It's the worst. I think.
47:09
I think that's a big reason why like the like people going out like discourages
47:16
people. You know what I mean, because it does for me. Bro.
47:20
If it's hitting, if that sun is hitting, Bro, I'm home.
47:22
You know what I'm saying. I'm not trying to be out there and
47:25
seven that humidity. Man, Like you ever seen that picture of the of
47:30
the parking at the Orlando Airport. No, the pickup It's like a picture
47:37
of the pickup of the Orlando Airport, and then the caption is I could
47:39
feel this photo. You know what I'm saying. Whenever you come from another
47:44
place, those doors open. Oh my gosh, bro, it feels like
47:49
in the you know, in the in the movies, the Lan Airport,
47:52
those doors open. Bro. You just feel like you open the oven doors,
47:54
yo. For real. Feels like the movies where they're like in outer
47:58
space and somebody opens the you know what I mean, that like destroys the
48:01
atmosphere pressure or something like this. Exactly, well, guy, it burns
48:08
a lot. Yeah, exactly. That was Oh my gosh that It's the
48:13
worst, man, It's the worst. Fucking faint waiting on an uber yeah,
48:16
facts, but yeah, man, I love Florida though, Yeah,
48:22
for sure. Man. I've been to a lot of different places, and
48:25
I feel like Florida. I Mean, everybody says everything they want about Florida,
48:30
but at the end of the day, we just do whatever we want
48:32
to do. Like, it doesn't get any better than that. Man.
48:37
A lot of people talking ship on Florida, a lot of people moving to
48:40
Florida facts, a lot of people vacation. Hey, we see those Instagram
48:45
photos all right, talking shit about Florida Bro, then on a jet ski
48:51
Yeah next week exactly. Oh, I think it's not that bad, is
48:54
it? Loki? Hating? You know, hating bro take your ass back,
48:58
especially like we were talking about in the getting with the people up north.
49:00
Ain't no way. You know that you're pissed that you have to deal
49:05
with that cold. Ain't no way anybody up there is just happy about it.
49:08
Oh man, I'm in the pool on Christmas Day. What are you
49:10
doing? Facts trying to dig your grandma out of the avalanche? Drinking vodka
49:16
just so you can listen to your uncle. Oh man? Yo, So
49:22
what do you got coming up as far as like shows, any projects that
49:25
you got going on? And so I gotta get with you offline? Yes,
49:30
sir? Talking about filming the Special, Yes, sir, I got
49:35
the name for it. If I want to drop it yet, I don't
49:37
want anyone to take it. It might be it's too the titles too cold,
49:40
it's too cold. You might have to give it to me off air.
49:44
Off air, Yeah, as soon as it goes off, I'll let
49:45
you know. But yeah, I would love for you to shoot the special.
49:50
Man or something. Yeah, man, I'm working. I mean I've
49:52
been working with for years. Shout out my boy Freddie. Always shut him
49:54
out of my podcast, and shout out my boy Johnny too. He's a
49:58
super dope videographer. And I've just been trying to like kind of like you
50:01
were saying, man, like trying to get a nice little team together so
50:06
we can, Like I feel like there's so many dope people out here that
50:09
just need a little help, Like we all do, you know what I'm
50:13
saying, Like we all need like a little hand to spread the word a
50:16
little more to elevate what we all doing. You know what you got.
50:20
Everybody has to come together, man, it's gotta be full Justice League twenty
50:23
twenty four. Bro. Yeah, me, Neid, Aquaman and Superman for
50:27
real. Every time you hear any story about anybody coming up, bro,
50:30
they always had those one, two, three people that were locked in with
50:34
them that they all cultivated it together and everybody everybody ate off of it.
50:37
You know what I mean, Bro, you need it's also your graduating class.
50:44
Like if you notice, like a lot of you know, I hate
50:46
to say the word, but like celebrities will come out at the same time.
50:50
Yeah, it'll be like the same eight people pop within a year of
50:52
each other, and it's like, oh, like they probably went to school
50:55
together or and a lot of them, a lot of the actors did go
50:59
to the same like Santa Monica High School. But just with anything is like
51:02
you're here, you know, in this part of Florida. I'm I'm a
51:07
little bit further away. But it's like, yeah, if we all meet
51:09
downtown or we all you know, I come out here and I do an
51:12
episode with you every now and then, it's like everybody's got a rise together.
51:15
Yep. And that's the thing like if I'm if I'm a fan of
51:20
you, you're a fan of me. Like the people that like our ship
51:22
are gonna like each Other's just off principle, bro, Because like any when
51:27
I meet that's friends with Jari, I'm like instantly, you know what I
51:30
mean, It's just that's the immediate vib is like, yeah, a friend
51:35
of a friend of Jory's a friend of mine. Yeah, fact, you
51:37
know, so it's uh, it's just cool. I don't know why.
51:40
I imagine you saying that with like a pint in like an old Irish club
51:45
b. Yeah, say what you want Bro, that might be the worst
51:52
time to live in history medieval times, but just to shake someone's hand like
51:54
that would be worth it. Dog, is so funny. Like me and
51:58
my wife was talking about that the other day because I'm like, I was
52:00
saying the same exact thing. I'm like, Bro, this time is terrible.
52:05
Bro. Like people, you always got to worry about somebody trying to
52:08
take over your village, you know what i mean. Like you got a
52:12
king that like he just whatever, whatever vibe he's feeling that day is however
52:16
he's gonna do. Things might pop off yo, crazy like and then it's
52:21
like you might come to your castle brow thousand deep. Then you got that
52:24
like noble class that like you cannot look at them sideways at all, bro,
52:30
Because it's like, Bro, like a cock pools you over. You
52:31
could kind of get away with saying some slick shit, you know what i
52:35
mean, Like you could be pissed off about it. But back in the
52:37
day, Bro, a night going by, you know what I'm saying.
52:40
You you know, look at him and say, oh, puppy cuck,
52:44
he's taking your head off, bro, Like you're not surviving that just discarded
52:47
you facts like you heard about like how they used to like quarter people.
52:52
Oh yeah, bro, it's yo. Like for people that don't know,
52:57
quartering is literally what it sounds like. They cut your body in quarters.
53:00
Oh they break you down like a QP. Crazy bro crazy, Like who
53:08
just thought about that? Like, bro, you people were like I have
53:13
a whole thing about this. Like people were like, oh, it's a
53:15
scary time now, and I'm like, bro, back then, you were
53:17
just like, oh, I'm gonna go take a piss and like as your
53:22
painted issue, like and then you go back over the hill and they're like
53:27
all your family's are on a stick. Yeah, bro, And you're like,
53:30
damn, bro. It's funny because I had a similar thing about like
53:34
like the World War two times, you know what I mean, Like people
53:37
like exactly what you said. Like people now be like, oh man,
53:39
I hate for kids to grow up now. I'm like, bro, imagine
53:43
you were a kid when they was just like drafting people like nah, you
53:46
going to war and people was just dying left and right. It was like
53:50
a famine because you know, there was no money like in the country.
53:53
Yeah, like little kids are going to work at factories and stuff. It's
53:58
like, come on, man, you up that what's going on right now.
54:00
They would have kids back then just to have extra, just to have
54:05
income, just to have help. Bro. Like, oh we got Timmy
54:07
in the coal mine. Yo, it's crazy this first day in the mind
54:10
he's for they're just literally having kids, just like salivating waiting for him to
54:15
be able to do some work. Bro, I think we should put these
54:19
Fortnite kids in the coal mines. Bro. Yo, you think they'll just
54:22
be doing a little dance like shit. But nah, I definitely agree,
54:30
Like, I don't. I don't think that we're in like that crazy times.
54:34
Like everybody's just saying crazy shit, you know what I mean, Like,
54:37
like, look here's the thing, bro, people people people say we
54:40
live in a scary time, as if they're on the Gaza Strip. You
54:45
know that's a scary time. Like, let's be real, yeah, fact
54:47
we're chilling here though. Okay, yeah, we got a lot of shit
54:52
we need to work on. I got that, But I don't have to
54:54
worry about getting hit with a fucking missile. Facts. You know, it's
55:00
all about that perspective man, like, like and even like you know,
55:05
so many people comment on like different situations and stuff, and it's like,
55:08
bro, at the end of the day, you're chilling, So your opinion,
55:14
I almost feel like you're their opinion is not even valid because it's like
55:16
you're not even there. You don't understand what's going on. You're you're not
55:20
living it, you're not seeing anything firsthand, you're not talking to people that
55:22
are experiencing it. Like it's like, you know, everybody obviously can have
55:27
their opinion, but at the end of the day, like we don't understand
55:30
that, you know what I mean, Like we we literally have no clue.
55:32
Like you saw a clip on Instagram and you're like, oh, yeah,
55:36
exactly, it's a dark time. Then you go get a salad that
55:39
fucking olive garden. Yeah, nah, man, that's exactly how it'd be.
55:45
But yeah, man, it was dope having you on for sure.
55:47
Absolutely, Like you said, Man, we're definitely gonna get in some more
55:52
some more content, some more stuff this year. You know, we've been
55:55
talking about on the podcast, like it's Me, my boy Joe, my
55:58
boy Quincy, and we've all just been talking about, you know, taking
56:01
everything to the next level, just from the point of view of really really
56:07
like locking in with like the community, really locking in with people as far
56:13
as like just spreading the word and just you know, put an account content
56:17
out there in a more physical way, you know what I mean, Because
56:20
it's kind of like we were talking about with the pandemic and stuff, everything
56:22
kind of went digital. It was all content and everything. But it's like
56:24
I feel like now like people want that real people want to see you in
56:29
the flesh man exactly. You know, It's it's a different experience. Like
56:34
you know, people see comedy clips online and like all that guy's not funny,
56:37
and it's like I bet if you went to see him live, you'd
56:39
be peeing yourself the same joke. It'd be the same joke you see on
56:44
the TikTok if you was there and caught the vibes the energy. Bro,
56:45
We're not supposed to consume live art through a through a seven inch screen or
56:52
whatever it is, you know, even a TV screen. It's not the
56:55
same effect. Yeah, fact completely different, Bro. I always think about,
57:00
like you saying that makes me think of Donnelle Rawlins, Like I saw
57:04
him at the Improval one time, and I always heard how Dave Chappelle says
57:07
that, like it's he's the best stand up that he's seen. Bro.
57:10
When I was, I was just floored with how funny it was, you
57:15
know what I mean. And it's kind of like you said, sometimes it
57:17
just don't translate to TV the same way. He's always been funny, you
57:21
know what I'm saying. But seeing him live, bro, And I've seen
57:23
a lot of comedians live, you know what I'm saying. Like, and
57:27
I mean I've seen d L Hugly freaking Charlie Murphy before he passed, Eddie
57:31
Griffin, Sedgri Danna Tainer. You're like, You're like, you're like a
57:37
true appreciator of Yeah, I love I love comedy, Bro, I love
57:39
comedy, and I really like comedians and cars, you know what I mean.
57:45
I always catch that I love that show. But yeah, and Donelle
57:49
Rollins was just one that I was like, dangn bro, this was so
57:52
freaking funny, Like he really is like one of the funniest stand ups I've
57:55
ever seen. Like, and that's the thing, Bro, the people that
57:59
people that truly work on the craft and aren't making the sketches and the little
58:04
like memes and shit, like you go see them live, You're like,
58:07
oh, that's where they've been putting the work in but sometimes the real,
58:13
true raw work doesn't get rewarded, so you got to play the game of
58:15
like, you know, like I'm not a big fan of the Florida Man
58:20
interview. Yeah, I think some of them are funny, but it's not
58:22
what I want to do now. I feel that because there's always that little
58:25
dance between like stuff that you know works and the stuff that you really want
58:30
to do and kind of find like a balance, and especially with music,
58:35
like music is very like there's a specific formula if you want to be successful
58:38
in a certain way that you can follow that formula and it's almost not a
58:43
guarantee, because nothing's a guarantee, but it's almost like if you work hard
58:46
at it and do it, you can get in that lane, you know
58:50
what I mean. And it's like kind of navigating where like, Okay,
58:52
where do I fit in? Though, you know what I mean. I
58:55
feel like it's the Florida Man interviews are like artist puts out like a single,
59:00
like a radio single, and it's not what they really want to do,
59:04
but it's catchy and it gets ten million eyes to their album. Yeah,
59:08
and then people, you know, a million of those ten million go
59:12
wow, I actually like the rest of their catalog. I didn't know they
59:15
had ten albums yep before and then that one song makes the whole catalog,
59:21
you know, worth it. It's kind of like something I heard Mac Miller
59:24
say, and we'll kind of start wrapping up with this is like he he
59:29
would say, you got to give him that. You got to give that
59:32
first album for like basically for the record label, which would basically what he's
59:37
saying by that is like, you got to give the people what they want
59:43
so that you can give them what you want, you know what I mean.
59:45
That's the hardest thing to need, bro, And it's like you got
59:47
to It's kind of like an exchange. It's like, hey, all right,
59:50
I'm giving you the content that you want from me. Here it is.
59:52
But now this is what I'm coming with next. Hopefully you've gained enough
59:59
trust in the fan is that they're gonna give that thing a chance, you
1:00:01
know what I mean. And it's that little dance. It's that one for
1:00:04
you, one for me exactly exactly. I feel like, yeah, three
1:00:07
million people see the Florida Man video. The next video they watches my stand
1:00:12
up and they go, oh, this guy has more than just a character.
1:00:16
He can actually go up there with just a mic and do his thing.
1:00:20
Yeah, and if that's the billboard or the ad quote unquote to get
1:00:23
him to come see me live, then we'll do that, bro, Because
1:00:27
if as long as it's making people laugh, that's my goal. Yeah,
1:00:30
even if it's something that I'm not a big fan of. And everybody,
1:00:34
everybody make sure they tap in with Sean too, man, cause I don't
1:00:37
know if we were talking about on the show or off air before, but
1:00:38
like, the comedy scene in Orlando is just like, Bro, there's so
1:00:44
many shows going on that are so funny. A lot of people that no
1:00:49
me, no Jari too, So it's like they know that he's doing his
1:00:51
thing, but it's like, bro, like y'all got to actually come out
1:00:53
and see these shows, you know what I mean, because it's a vibe.
1:00:55
Yeah. Man, if you haven't seen me live, man, I've
1:01:00
been really working. I feel like I'm happy with where I'm at. Obviously
1:01:02
I want to keep growing, but yeah, man, guys like Jarry shout
1:01:07
out Cam Patterson, Man, I'm gonna be out in California. Nice.
1:01:09
Nice. He's got me on some of his summer tour, so I'm grateful
1:01:14
for that, and uh, it's cool to see him. You open it
1:01:15
for him in the improv as well, right or did you ready? December
1:01:19
fourteen, Yeah, ship dude, and going out to Austin. I got
1:01:22
a show at Roscoe's Comedy Club the thirteenth, and the next morning, I'm
1:01:28
flying back with Jarry because we got to show that night. Two shows opening
1:01:30
for Cam and he's selling them out, bro, Orlando's own and uh,
1:01:35
yeah, it's cool, bro. For I've always said this man, and
1:01:38
sorry, I keep dragging it on. Go ahead, go ahead, bro,
1:01:42
I always make the joke. I don't mind being and friends, so
1:01:45
saying like Cam Patterson and friends like Jarry and Sean Madden and friends, like
1:01:52
as long as someone's someone's on the on the billboard, bro, like ye,
1:01:55
and I'm and I'm opening like I've seen he's funny. Bro, he's
1:02:00
funny. I haven't checked him out, like I gotta check him out.
1:02:04
I'm trying to make it out to that second show because y'all added a second
1:02:07
show in Orlando, right, yeah, Bro, the first one sold out
1:02:08
and like yeah the ticket stuff, Yeah, so he added a second one.
1:02:14
I'm sure we'll have more details. Yeah, but yeah, stay watching
1:02:16
my story at I'm Sean Madden on Instagram YouTube. Same thing, and dude,
1:02:22
plug your stuff too, because if we're gonna do yeah for sure.
1:02:24
Man. Check me out on Instagram at Leicester dot wa V. My website
1:02:30
is Leicester wav dot com. Check out my music. I'm twenty twenty four.
1:02:36
I'm just focused on pumping out a lot of music. Last year was
1:02:39
just more like trying to get my name out there. I just dropped like
1:02:44
my Spotify rap stats and I hit like five hundred and eleven thousand streams just
1:02:47
on Spotify. Congrats. Yeah, man, it's numbers. Bro, It's
1:02:51
been super It's been super dope. Just like seeing feeling that growth from putting
1:02:55
that work in, you know what I mean. Yeah, Many'll always be
1:03:00
rewarded for the work you put in, Bro, whether you don't see it
1:03:02
now or in five years, you will be rewarded for taking that that first
1:03:07
step, with that third step. It's all to get to that next thing,
1:03:09
man. So yeah, bro, super proud of you. Man,
1:03:13
Like, that's some serious numbers. And I look going up from here.
1:03:16
Man. You know the handshake we got to go out with, right,
1:03:22
yeah, bro, you know why they did that right, well, it
1:03:24
was to see if they had a knife on them. Oh shit, Yeah
1:03:28
I didn't know that, and yeah, man, uh shit, I had.
1:03:32
I had one final thing, oh, be be on the lookout for.
1:03:37
I think we might be using some of your samples to intro outro the
1:03:40
show. Yeah, man, I'm definitely gonna have a whole a whole bunch
1:03:44
of different vibes that I could send you to see what kind of fits your
1:03:45
style. I love that. Definitely do it. Just a nice intro song
1:03:49
produced by you. I think that'd be great. I had another guy that
1:03:52
wanted to do it, but life gets in the way. But if I
1:03:55
if I had, like, yeah, one of your originals or something,
1:03:59
or just a clip of your song, I think that'd be a vibe.
1:04:01
Bro, I would love to do more episodes. Have you on the show.
1:04:04
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm super dumb man. Like I
1:04:06
said this year, I'm all about creating this all drive out here to record
1:04:10
once a week. Bro, if we want to do I thought that was
1:04:13
you know, yeah, get down, I'll be down a pull up on
1:04:15
YouTube. I know you're doing by the by the Pool. It's a nice
1:04:18
little vibe. I'm trying to do it there, you know, when they're
1:04:20
not mowing the lawns. Yeah, oh yeah, that's true. That a
1:04:24
helicopter. Yeah, Man, I used to go to a studio that they
1:04:28
had, like a rock band that would come like every once in a while
1:04:30
to practice in the room next door, And whenever they came, it was
1:04:33
like I couldn't record or I would have to wait in between their clips,
1:04:36
you know, remember between their takes, you know. And they were like
1:04:40
a heavy heavy metal band, you know, I mean the sound proof so
1:04:44
much. Yeah, it was it was I understand that man. Damn bro,
1:04:47
But yo, thanks for having me on man. Yeah, for sure,
1:04:49
we're definitely gonna do a lot more. Man and me and Jarry been
1:04:54
talking. I'm definitely looking forward to doing some more work with Jari and content
1:04:58
with them. Like I said, Man, I feel like you're definitely doing
1:05:00
your thing and this year is going to be dope. Big things on the
1:05:04
way, bro, these things y'all stay tuned for sure, we'll see y'all
1:05:09
soon. It stay better not not not not not not not not last after
1:08:06
ever after At