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- 0:03Speaker 1: The hell is that fish?
- 0:11Speaker 2: What's wrong with.
- 0:13Speaker 3: That? That's that's dress core.
- 0:18Speaker 4: That's what we ate in Vietnam, dude.
- 0:31Speaker 2: What do sheep call those?
- 0:33Speaker 4: Fish?
- 0:36Speaker 2: No, you call them fucking sea bugs or something.
- 0:43Speaker 5: Oh, that's not fish. Yeah, I love that. Those are
- 0:47Speaker 5: giant sea cockroaches.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Got it. But what's going on, everybody? I'm the one,
- 0:53Speaker 2: the only, the W-O-O-K-I-E, joined here by my normal cast
- 0:56Speaker 2: of misfits. We have the PhD of Key Forge, Dr. M.
- 0:59Speaker 5: Sheep. Hello. Hello.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Oh, you're not the Minnesota deuce. You're just the deuce
- 1:03Speaker 2: overall in general. Ewok Jr.
- 1:07Speaker 4: Hello, Key Forge community. Glad to be here. Go ahead.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Call me the deuce.
- 1:11Speaker 1: But you have some complaining to do and some apologizing
- 1:18Speaker 1: to do after removing all of the amazing things.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Way to jump the gun. I do have some complaining
- 1:24Speaker 2: to do. I get no help around here. I get
- 1:26Speaker 2: no respect. Just like Draftscore. Of the Draftscore. He almost
- 1:31Speaker 2: did something cool once. Sheep Corps. I actually totally forgot. No,
- 1:36Speaker 2: you're Horse Corps. The Draz Corps. Hey, guys. How's it going?
- 1:41Speaker 2: He's here, too. He was going to jump right into
- 1:44Speaker 2: the episode without even introducing it. He's excited. And I
- 1:50Speaker 2: do have some complaining to do. I get no help
- 1:52Speaker 2: around here. Somebody's got to do all the cleaning, and
- 1:55Speaker 2: then when you clean... You know, one time.
- 1:57Speaker 4: God is helping you plenty. Trust me.
- 2:01Speaker 5: I put Loka car under the bus and you guys
- 2:03Speaker 5: are the ones who just ruin that.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Listen, I was told in my old age, sometimes you
- 2:08Speaker 2: clean a little early, right? And these things happen as
- 2:12Speaker 2: you age, right?
- 2:14Speaker 4: We had literally.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Talked about the nationals coming up on the episode on Thursday.
- 2:19Speaker 1: And sure enough, by the time we got to Saturday,
- 2:23Speaker 1: when they were actually firing, uh, Who went ahead and
- 2:26Speaker 1: deleted them all?
- 2:27Speaker 5: This is how little y'all pay attention. That shit was
- 2:29Speaker 5: deleted by the time that the episode was done recording.
- 2:34Speaker 5: Nobody noticed until it was time.
- 2:36Speaker 4: Because that's when everyone needed it.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Yeah, my bad.
- 2:43Speaker 5: Needed it. I don't know if there was ever any
- 2:45Speaker 5: actual need.
- 2:46Speaker 2: Need. Yeah, need's a strong term.
- 2:47Speaker 1: People wanted to go ahead and. People want to talk
- 2:49Speaker 1: about what's their events. It's fun to be able to
- 2:52Speaker 1: talk about your events.
- 2:52Speaker 5: There's lots of channels you can spout nonsense in.
- 2:55Speaker 2: I was going to say, it is fun, and they
- 2:56Speaker 2: can make a Discord for their events.
- 3:00Speaker 5: Oh my goodness. We had space.
- 3:02Speaker 3: We are a place that people want to come to
- 3:06Speaker 3: to talk about stuff.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Isn't that a good thing?
- 3:08Speaker 4: It is a good thing, and we are thankful.
- 3:10Speaker 2: We are the cornucopia of Keyforge. Archon's Corner, the cornucopia
- 3:17Speaker 2: of Keyforge.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Say it with me, Wookie. I'm sorry I made a mistake.
- 3:22Speaker 2: I already said my bad. Actually, would you like me
- 3:26Speaker 2: to read what I wrote in the chat that y'all
- 3:29Speaker 2: roasted me in? There are a few expletives.
- 3:33Speaker 4: Not from me.
- 3:34Speaker 2: No, you're right. There's no... There's no... You're right. Not
- 3:41Speaker 2: from you.
- 3:41Speaker 5: Not from me either.
- 3:47Speaker 2: No, none for you either. Just you, sir.
- 3:50Speaker 5: Yes, I deleted them prematurely.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Like I said, in your old age, I'm told it
- 3:56Speaker 2: happens sometimes, right? Like, you know, you get confused. Sometimes
- 4:01Speaker 2: you don't know why you're in the parking lot and
- 4:03Speaker 2: just your underwear. And you delete a Discord. It happens, right?
- 4:08Speaker 4: So.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:10Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Has this happened to you, too? Sound familiar or no?
- 4:16Speaker 2: I mean... Arcing a lot of what, right? That's the
- 4:21Speaker 2: real question. Is that what matters? Bunnies, buckets, and bubbles?
- 4:26Speaker 2: I guess if that's what matters, yes. It's good chicken.
- 4:32Speaker 3: Oh, that's a real place? Yeah, that's the place from
- 4:38Speaker 3: Baltimore that we went. That is not a strip club. Bunnies, buckets,
- 4:43Speaker 3: and bubbles.
- 4:44Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I remember that now. Yeah, but we
- 4:47Speaker 2: got lots to go over. Let's get off of horrible,
- 4:49Speaker 2: awful topics that are terrible radio right now because we're
- 4:54Speaker 2: trying to force a joke that just isn't there. Guys,
- 4:57Speaker 2: we finally got our Portland results, so now we know
- 4:59Speaker 2: what happened. Sweet, because Portland just happened this last weekend.
- 5:05Speaker 2: Portland literally just happened this past week. What happened this year?
- 5:12Speaker 2: This was from... Oh, check the year on the website.
- 5:15Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Oh, shit. Really? Did we not? Or what was the deal? Yeah,
- 5:21Speaker 2: it sounds like it. It does say 2026. Okay, good.
- 5:24Speaker 3: I thought it might have been two years ago. But,
- 5:26Speaker 3: you know, it was this year.
- 5:27Speaker 2: Good. You know what would have been even better is
- 5:29Speaker 2: if they just copy-pasted last year's results. I mean, it
- 5:33Speaker 2: would have been pretty much. But we kind of already know.
- 5:36Speaker 2: We don't. I'm not reading the article because we kind
- 5:40Speaker 2: of already went through everything. I do see x-ray. I
- 5:45Speaker 2: see Devin in there in the picture.
- 5:49Speaker 5: You are front and center, sir. Like right there. I
- 5:52Speaker 5: really am. Look how concerned I am about how badly
- 5:58Speaker 5: I'm losing right now.
- 5:59Speaker 2: Is that concern or deep in thought? I thought it
- 6:01Speaker 2: was focus too. I'm focused. You got Dom Fom right
- 6:07Speaker 2: next to me. Rocking and rolling. He's like, give me
- 6:11Speaker 2: that ember. I'm stealing it. I don't see X-Ray, so
- 6:16Speaker 2: I don't know where you see him in there. No,
- 6:19Speaker 2: I was just going down. I thought he was in
- 6:23Speaker 2: the picture. And then you got Ned Mike here. And
- 6:27Speaker 2: Logan Composer. That's a name I haven't heard in a while.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Logan Composer. Bear Bear. Lots to be had. Lots of
- 6:37Speaker 2: fun at Guardian Games. We already did an episode. You
- 6:40Speaker 2: can I'd say you could click here to do it,
- 6:42Speaker 2: but this ain't YouTube, so just go find it.
- 6:45Speaker 5: Just keep clicking. If you click one more time. Scroll
- 6:48Speaker 5: back like three months.
- 6:49Speaker 2: It'll do it. And maybe you'll find it. And let's see.
- 6:53Speaker 5: What do we got?
- 6:54Speaker 2: We got preparations for Nashville coming up. I don't know.
- 6:59Speaker 2: And we finally.
- 7:00Speaker 5: We went from only Draz was going early in the
- 7:04Speaker 5: year to now we're all going.
- 7:06Speaker 2: No, I was going. I said I had it circled.
- 7:10Speaker 2: nashville is definitely circled my my old man uh my
- 7:14Speaker 2: my mother's ex-husband lives in nashville so i i kind
- 7:19Speaker 2: of am using this and now it it's going from
- 7:21Speaker 2: um i didn't know how i was gonna get there
- 7:26Speaker 2: looking at planes and now i'm taking the whole the
- 7:28Speaker 2: whole family so we're all going nice nice are you
- 7:32Speaker 2: guys driving you guys yeah we're gonna we're gonna drive
- 7:35Speaker 2: the nine hours and and uh go there we've got
- 7:38Speaker 2: a whole uh we got a whole like my wife
- 7:42Speaker 2: has a plan like we're gonna go see the leaning
- 7:44Speaker 2: tower of niles uh we're going to the uh louisville
- 7:52Speaker 2: slugger uh is it a museum i'm not sure if
- 7:55Speaker 2: it's a museum there's i guess there's a wait when
- 7:57Speaker 2: are you gonna when are you gonna be at the
- 7:59Speaker 2: louisville slugger museum uh thursday Which Thursday? The Thursday after?
- 8:07Speaker 2: The first.
- 8:09Speaker 5: Hmm.
- 8:10Speaker 2: We are driving down the first to be there on
- 8:13Speaker 2: the second. Oh, you're going to go Thursday. I'm going
- 8:18Speaker 2: the Thursday after. Oh, okay. I'm going. Yes, because we
- 8:21Speaker 2: are driving down that Thursday. Yeah. We got planned. We're
- 8:25Speaker 2: going to go see that. And I guess there's a
- 8:26Speaker 2: Golden David statue that's not too far away from that.
- 8:31Speaker 2: And then we're going to go to a Bucky's. We're
- 8:33Speaker 2: super stoked about Bucky's. Oh, gosh. Bucky's is an experience.
- 8:39Speaker 2: I've never been. Never been to a Bucky's yet.
- 8:42Speaker 4: You're not missing anything.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Or am I missing everything? Nobody knows, really. I think
- 8:50Speaker 2: you are. I'm super excited to take the trip. We're
- 8:55Speaker 2: all going. We're all going to be there. This is
- 8:59Speaker 2: the second time this year. You were in... No, Drez,
- 9:01Speaker 2: were you in St.
- 9:01Speaker 5: Louis?
- 9:03Speaker 2: No, I was in India while St. Louis was going on. Yeah, yeah.
- 9:08Speaker 3: Work's been making me do things. I mean, the India
- 9:13Speaker 3: trip was really cool, but I was like, please don't put.
- 9:16Speaker 2: It on that weekend or that week, whatever. And they
- 9:19Speaker 2: did anyway. But we have all sorts of things happening
- 9:24Speaker 2: on this weekend. Obviously, we have Archon, Sealed, and Alliance happening.
- 9:28Speaker 2: In their normal time slots. We also found out... I
- 9:32Speaker 2: like how this is all kind of... I need to
- 9:34Speaker 2: go back to the other ones to see if they
- 9:36Speaker 2: were this formatted.
- 9:39Speaker 5: I was going to say, this late?
- 9:42Speaker 2: No, it was this formatted. I actually had to find
- 9:45Speaker 2: out because I understood when it said it'll feature a
- 9:48Speaker 2: two-deck sealed alliance. I understood what that meant. But then
- 9:53Speaker 2: it was sealed alliance standard. I'm like, what the hell
- 9:55Speaker 2: does standard mean? So I actually had to go check
- 9:57Speaker 2: the alternate formats guide to be like, what does standard mean? Oh,
- 9:59Speaker 2: it's just regular key forge. Okay. And then sealed Alliance
- 10:04Speaker 2: or sealed Archon standard.
- 10:06Speaker 3: So it's funny that you're saying this because so, so
- 10:09Speaker 3: in ABR, uh, which by the way, we are sucking.
- 10:13Speaker 5: Hey, you guys are like two games. You just haven't
- 10:16Speaker 5: reported them.
- 10:17Speaker 2: That's true.
- 10:18Speaker 3: So, um, the uh so the horrible tangent all right
- 10:24Speaker 3: josh he's on my team and so joss was asking
- 10:28Speaker 3: about the sealed uh the sealed thing and he's like
- 10:32Speaker 3: is it standard i was like is it what it's
- 10:38Speaker 3: like standard i was like it's sealed He's like, but
- 10:42Speaker 3: it's a standard.
- 10:43Speaker 5: I was like, what are you even asking? What do
- 10:44Speaker 5: you mean? What do you mean standard? Like, what are
- 10:46Speaker 5: their different versions?
- 10:48Speaker 2: He's like, well, do you alliance? I was like, fuck no,
- 10:51Speaker 2: you don't alliance it.
- 10:52Speaker 5: What are you even asking me?
- 10:57Speaker 2: It was like tournament methods and it was like standard adapt.
- 11:01Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, okay. I get what the under.
- 11:03Speaker 5: Yeah. Once he said alliance, I was like, okay, I
- 11:07Speaker 5: understand what you're saying. But yeah, I was like super.
- 11:10Speaker 5: I don't remember it quite being formatted like that in
- 11:13Speaker 5: the past.
- 11:15Speaker 2: But maybe it was. I could be completely wrong on that, too.
- 11:19Speaker 3: And I guess it's not even that. It's not even
- 11:22Speaker 3: true sealed-sealed. It's like a pooled situation in AVR, which
- 11:27Speaker 3: is actually a ton of fun.
- 11:29Speaker 2: This is a two-deck sealed alliance standard.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Yeah, so the short bit for anyone trying to follow
- 11:35Speaker 1: along in Radioland is Nashville on Friday is going to
- 11:39Speaker 1: have a VM24 sealed, and there'll be two-deck sealed alliance.
- 11:43Speaker 1: So you're going to get two VM24 decks.
- 11:47Speaker 4: That you will be able to alliance.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Saturday.
- 11:49Speaker 1: You're going to go ahead and be playing Sealed Talk.
- 11:52Speaker 1: You'll have two decks to choose one of those from,
- 11:54Speaker 1: and you're going to be playing Archon. So it's Sealed Archon.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Pick one.
- 11:58Speaker 5: Both of those copy DM deck entries.
- 12:03Speaker 2: Sealed Archon Standard. I get that now. So it is Sealed.
- 12:07Speaker 2: You will get the two. You will pick which one
- 12:10Speaker 2: you like better and then play. Got it. Okay.
- 12:13Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:14Speaker 2: I'm glad this is becoming a thing, because I would
- 12:17Speaker 2: definitely love a Vault Tour where it was like, Friday
- 12:20Speaker 2: will be Sealed Alliance Standard. Saturday will be Sealed Archon Standard.
- 12:26Speaker 2: I like that. I dig it. Make it happen. And
- 12:29Speaker 2: then Sunday is going to be Packed Draft. Oh, I'm
- 12:31Speaker 2: so jealous of all of you. I'm so jealous of
- 12:34Speaker 2: all the people. Are you going to be there on Sunday? Well, no,
- 12:37Speaker 2: I'm probably going to be headed home. I mean, it's
- 12:38Speaker 2: a nine-hour drive.
- 12:39Speaker 4: Okay.
- 12:42Speaker 2: I took off Monday.
- 12:45Speaker 4: Okay.
- 12:47Speaker 2: My wife did not.
- 12:48Speaker 1: So you just got to be back by.
- 12:52Speaker 2: She works for the... Yeah, you get to drive all night.
- 12:54Speaker 4: Yeah, you just get to drive through the night, man.
- 12:56Speaker 2: Yeah, she works for the school system, where I guess
- 12:59Speaker 2: taking two days off in a row is like the
- 13:01Speaker 2: biggest sin that you can ever think of.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I've told you this every single... Yes, you cannot
- 13:06Speaker 1: take off more... two is, is, is really pushing it
- 13:10Speaker 1: to have more than two.
- 13:11Speaker 5: Like I didn't re like when you said really pushing it,
- 13:14Speaker 5: I was like, ah, but they let you do it.
- 13:15Speaker 4: Right.
- 13:16Speaker 2: And like, cause like you have done it multiple times,
- 13:18Speaker 2: but like, it's like, like you have to get approval
- 13:22Speaker 2: from the principal. And then the principal has to get
- 13:26Speaker 2: approval from like some HR tribunal. It's that like, it's like, yeah.
- 13:31Speaker 2: And I'm like, what's this is ridiculous for two days off.
- 13:35Speaker 2: This is ridiculous.
- 13:36Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 13:37Speaker 5: Which is why summer off. So show up to work
- 13:40Speaker 5: when it's working time.
- 13:41Speaker 2: She works all summer for the school district as a janitor.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Yeah, which is why I actually can't be there on
- 13:48Speaker 1: Wednesday for KFC or the Monday after, which that's rough
- 13:53Speaker 1: coming back and then trying to get right back in
- 13:55Speaker 1: work mode with live and sleep.
- 13:56Speaker 4: But it's what is we're.
- 13:58Speaker 2: Going to learn about. We're going to learn about reaping today.
- 14:01Speaker 2: Who wants to know what reaping is?
- 14:02Speaker 4: No, I think I think God.
- 14:06Speaker 5: My favorite part about these side events is if you
- 14:09Speaker 5: go to organize play and you go look at the
- 14:12Speaker 5: vault tour, you can't find this information.
- 14:15Speaker 3: Because they just made it up because they were like, oh, shit,
- 14:18Speaker 3: we forgot to.
- 14:19Speaker 2: Publish an article.
- 14:21Speaker 5: Vault tour, vault tour 2026 national page. And it says
- 14:25Speaker 5: nothing about the side events, nor is the article link there.
- 14:28Speaker 5: Or I suppose you should be able to catch those on.
- 14:32Speaker 5: I wonder if they put them in place tonight.
- 14:34Speaker 2: I'm going to play style now.
- 14:38Speaker 1: While you're looking at it, we have a chance to
- 14:42Speaker 1: be able to play Sealed on both different days.
- 14:46Speaker 2: Are you excited about getting some VM from two years ago?
- 14:49Speaker 2: The M24 Sealed is a great experience. Is it? I
- 14:54Speaker 2: don't remember doing it. I think they should take all
- 14:56Speaker 2: the VM Sealed and send that to JM. Whatever's left over,
- 15:03Speaker 2: just send it to JM.
- 15:06Speaker 3: You know i i almost for this time put my
- 15:10Speaker 3: custom deck name to be like you know jm loves
- 15:14Speaker 3: vm but i don't know he's just been so pissy
- 15:18Speaker 3: about it's like you know what it's not funny.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Anymore now now it's just in bad taste yeah.
- 15:23Speaker 5: He's not very key 4g anymore.
- 15:26Speaker 2: So no but apparently neither is canada.
- 15:30Speaker 5: Yeah, Canada pretty much hates America right now.
- 15:32Speaker 2: Yeah, Canada had their nationals. How many people showed up? 11?
- 15:38Speaker 5: Yeah, real quick. 8, 8, and 14.
- 15:40Speaker 1: Well, real quick, before we bounce from Nashville, we do
- 15:43Speaker 1: have all of the 50 tickets. So that means our
- 15:47Speaker 1: numbers are pre-registered are already above 50.
- 15:51Speaker 2: And I didn't even sign up. I haven't even bought
- 15:53Speaker 2: my ticket yet.
- 15:55Speaker 4: So that is huge. I think it's going to be
- 15:58Speaker 4: a wonderful vault.
- 15:59Speaker 1: I'm excited for the con that's happening for Tennessee Game Day.
- 16:03Speaker 4: And our vault.
- 16:06Speaker 2: It's the last U.S.
- 16:07Speaker 4: Vault of the year. And I will shout out Italy,
- 16:10Speaker 4: which is the last international vault, if I'm correct. And
- 16:14Speaker 4: that is happening this weekend.
- 16:17Speaker 1: So literally coming up and, again, looking at... hearing kind
- 16:21Speaker 1: of what people are talking about, there's going to be
- 16:23Speaker 1: some amazing decks in both different groups, um, both for
- 16:27Speaker 1: Italy and Nashville.
- 16:28Speaker 4: So it's going to be a wonderful, wonderful set of all.
- 16:30Speaker 5: What do you think? What do you, what do you
- 16:32Speaker 5: think the reason that Nashville is the biggest us vault
- 16:36Speaker 5: this year?
- 16:38Speaker 2: Do you guys be bigger in Baltimore? Is it, wasn't.
- 16:41Speaker 5: Baltimore still only 40 something?
- 16:45Speaker 2: Uh, thought it was bigger than that.
- 16:49Speaker 5: No, it shrank from the previous year.
- 16:51Speaker 2: Well, it shrank, but the Baltimore was... Man, if only
- 16:54Speaker 2: we had a write-up to go back and reference. Yeah.
- 17:00Speaker 4: Well, while you're checking that, we also have ours.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember how many. I thought it was still.
- 17:11Speaker 4: So it's saying Sealed was 59, 51 for Archon. 59.
- 17:18Speaker 5: So, I mean, if they already have... If 50 were
- 17:21Speaker 5: sold out before they even announced the art, which was
- 17:25Speaker 5: just announced here.
- 17:26Speaker 2: And Wookiee hasn't signed up yet, so there will at
- 17:29Speaker 2: least be 51.
- 17:30Speaker 5: I don't know. So, okay, it's either going to be
- 17:33Speaker 5: the biggest or the second biggest. Is it location, or
- 17:37Speaker 5: is it because it's actually attached to an event where
- 17:40Speaker 5: there's something else to do that wasn't $ 500 extra? Yeah.
- 17:45Speaker 5: To be able to go to. I think.
- 17:48Speaker 4: Go ahead.
- 17:49Speaker 2: No, you go first.
- 17:50Speaker 5: Go ahead.
- 17:51Speaker 2: We probably have the same idea.
- 17:52Speaker 4: I think it's a combination of, one, it's the last U.S.
- 17:56Speaker 2: Vault.
- 17:57Speaker 1: So it's the last chance to qualify for Worlds, to
- 18:00Speaker 1: have a Worlds invite. Two, I think the location is
- 18:05Speaker 1: the proximity to Nashville and some entertainment experiences. it brings
- 18:11Speaker 1: in potentially some individuals from the East coast. Frankly, we
- 18:14Speaker 1: haven't had anything in the Southeast since Atlanta vaults, many, many, many,
- 18:19Speaker 1: many like early FFG time.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Oh man. Um, so, but if.
- 18:25Speaker 1: You're picturing, we can now hopefully grab some people that
- 18:30Speaker 1: haven't had the same experience for vaults. You have a
- 18:33Speaker 1: number of people who are traveling, um, the time of
- 18:37Speaker 1: the year that I think there's a combination of a
- 18:41Speaker 1: lot of different things that are bringing people in. And
- 18:44Speaker 1: it's exciting to see the potential for what this vault
- 18:47Speaker 1: can do.
- 18:51Speaker 2: Um, I mean, having attaching it to a con that
- 18:54Speaker 2: isn't like you said, an extra $ 500, I think it
- 18:57Speaker 2: was extra what? 10 bucks. And you get to go
- 18:59Speaker 2: see the entire con. Like that's very, very cool. right?
- 19:04Speaker 1: So you can't even get like a meal for 10
- 19:06Speaker 1: bucks right now. So like to stick that on that,
- 19:10Speaker 1: that you have access to Tennessee game days is, is huge.
- 19:14Speaker 2: I mean, I've, I've never been to Tennessee game days,
- 19:16Speaker 2: so I can't talk much about it. Um, cause I
- 19:19Speaker 2: don't know much about it, but I.
- 19:20Speaker 5: Mean, we'll talk about it in two weeks.
- 19:23Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Cause, uh, it sounds fine. Right. And, and
- 19:26Speaker 2: even if it's just a people, bunch of people who
- 19:28Speaker 2: are like, we like board games, want to play, I
- 19:31Speaker 2: think it'll be far worth my $ 10. Uh, I don't know. Like,
- 19:35Speaker 2: we'll see. I mean, like you said, it's at least
- 19:38Speaker 2: 51 right now. I mean, you draw from a lot, right?
- 19:41Speaker 2: You draw a little bit from the South, which hasn't really...
- 19:44Speaker 2: What's the last time the South has really had anything?
- 19:48Speaker 2: Vault tour-wise. I think Atlanta might have been... the last one.
- 19:52Speaker 2: And that was like year... Was that year two of vaults?
- 19:56Speaker 2: Was that 2019? That was before I went to a vault.
- 19:58Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 20:01Speaker 4: Oh, man.
- 20:01Speaker 2: I mean, that was a while ago. It was a
- 20:04Speaker 2: first year area, I'm saying. So, yeah, it had been
- 20:08Speaker 2: 2019 was the first year of vaults.
- 20:09Speaker 5: No, that wasn't... That was an AOA vault, wasn't it?
- 20:12Speaker 2: I don't know. Somebody Google it. But either way, the
- 20:18Speaker 2: South really hasn't had anything. Like, if you want to
- 20:21Speaker 2: do anything, you really had to travel up to the
- 20:24Speaker 2: East Coast. And that's... Atlanta, May 25th, 27th.
- 20:28Speaker 5: 25th to the 27th of 2019. All right, so it was...
- 20:30Speaker 5: It was the last of the.
- 20:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:40Speaker 5: It was the last of the Coda.
- 20:43Speaker 1: And there is something about having it within a drivable distance.
- 20:47Speaker 5: They had Richmond. That was the one I was thinking of.
- 20:49Speaker 5: It was the airway vault. It was Richmond, Virginia.
- 20:52Speaker 4: It's Virginia.
- 20:54Speaker 2: It's not that far. But it's going to be a
- 21:00Speaker 2: good time. If you're close, nearby, come play Forge. Or
- 21:06Speaker 2: play board games. Totally up to you. But moving in... Oh,
- 21:11Speaker 2: you wanted to go through.
- 21:13Speaker 5: What do we got?
- 21:13Speaker 2: What else do we got left here?
- 21:15Speaker 4: Well, then we started to talk about nationals.
- 21:18Speaker 1: I know we deleted, but we actually had three sets
- 21:20Speaker 1: of nationals that happened.
- 21:23Speaker 4: Last weekend. So, you started with Canada.
- 21:26Speaker 2: Go ahead. Yeah, I mean, Canada, we were 8-8-11, so
- 21:31Speaker 2: not a ton happening. And, like, how many of those
- 21:34Speaker 2: were Canadians versus U.S.
- 21:36Speaker 3: Folks?
- 21:38Speaker 2: Uh.
- 21:40Speaker 2: That I don't know.
- 21:41Speaker 5: There was a picture of five U.S. folks together, right?
- 21:45Speaker 2: I think.
- 21:46Speaker 5: Were they all U.S.? Yeah. So it was.
- 21:48Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 21:52Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 21:52Speaker 2: So. Yeah.
- 21:55Speaker 5: There was.
- 21:55Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 21:56Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 21:57Speaker 5: But it was very poorly advertised. Like, I guess I
- 22:02Speaker 5: didn't ever realize when or if I'd if I'd actually
- 22:05Speaker 5: understood when and where it was. there's a chance I
- 22:09Speaker 5: would have gone. Cause that's only like a seven hour
- 22:11Speaker 5: drive for me.
- 22:12Speaker 4: Yeah. It's actually, isn't that just cross the border from Detroit, Detroit.
- 22:17Speaker 5: Yep. So, but we just weren't really aware. Of course
- 22:21Speaker 5: we don't have JM keeping us informed of Canadian happenings anymore.
- 22:25Speaker 5: So we don't know what's going on anymore.
- 22:26Speaker 2: Doesn't that fall on JDG then?
- 22:29Speaker 5: He's not active either.
- 22:32Speaker 1: Yeah, and JDG is way in the West Coast. So
- 22:37Speaker 1: that's a very, very different area. It's kind of like saying, hey, Wookie,
- 22:40Speaker 1: what's happening over in ABR land for California?
- 22:44Speaker 2: Well, I know Draskor's team is sucking. That we are.
- 22:50Speaker 4: We're having fun.
- 22:52Speaker 2: We are having fun.
- 22:53Speaker 1: I will say for the Falcons just scored again. I
- 22:57Speaker 1: will say for Nationals. I will say for nationals, one
- 23:01Speaker 1: of the things that I did not realize until more
- 23:04Speaker 1: recently was the sweet, amazing borders that, uh, have been
- 23:08Speaker 1: made for the winning decks.
- 23:11Speaker 4: Um, I should say the prize.
- 23:13Speaker 5: Announced in a meaningful timeframe for me to try to
- 23:16Speaker 5: act upon. Hmm. But like also had I known that
- 23:22Speaker 5: would have made me look at nationals and been like, Ooh,
- 23:24Speaker 5: could I actually go to any of this?
- 23:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:27Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 23:27Speaker 2: But I did.
- 23:28Speaker 5: I did all the same stuff as the past few years,
- 23:31Speaker 5: which was generally. On exciting.
- 23:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess the nationals are on the. The country
- 23:41Speaker 3: organizer to advertise, I guess. Well, it feels like, you know,
- 23:46Speaker 3: it feels like a little bit.
- 23:48Speaker 5: GG had him there.
- 23:50Speaker 2: Sort of.
- 23:51Speaker 5: Sort of. I mean, they released an article about it.
- 23:58Speaker 2: They didn't.
- 23:59Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 24:03Speaker 5: The....
- 24:05Speaker 2: Hold on. I was driving when you said the cornucopia
- 24:09Speaker 2: of Key Forge. Don't you guys mean the cornhole of
- 24:13Speaker 2: Key Forge? Cornhole is different than cornucopia. Well, I wrote cornucopia.
- 24:18Speaker 5: But he's saying we're a cornhole, not a cornucopia.
- 24:21Speaker 2: I think that's accurate. I think that's accurate. I'm in,
- 24:25Speaker 2: but that's, you know.
- 24:26Speaker 5: It's a hole you stuff your corn in? Yeah.
- 24:29Speaker 2: No, it's not.
- 24:30Speaker 5: You're talking about bags now. Cornhole is bags.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Whose bags?
- 24:37Speaker 4: We're not going down this rabbit hole, please.
- 24:38Speaker 5: You're not old enough, Lucky.
- 24:40Speaker 2: Oh, is that the problem? Okay. I get it. Watch
- 24:46Speaker 2: out for your cornhole there, Peter. I guess when I
- 24:52Speaker 2: hear cornhole, the first thing I think is banks.
- 24:54Speaker 3: I have not seen office space in quite a long time.
- 24:58Speaker 2: I think, uh, I think my kids have to see it.
- 25:03Speaker 5: Is that going to be your, uh, community event for KFC?
- 25:06Speaker 2: It's just, yep. Watching office space. No, no.
- 25:10Speaker 5: I'm going to go out back and destroy a printer.
- 25:14Speaker 3: I mean, I definitely sometimes force my kids to watch
- 25:17Speaker 3: ye olde movies with me from the 1900s. Do you
- 25:21Speaker 3: explain to them what's going on, too?
- 25:25Speaker 4: Are you saying Office Space is now a ye olde movie?
- 25:29Speaker 2: Yes, we're old. That's what my kids tell me. It
- 25:31Speaker 2: is from the 90s. Anything from the 1900s, as they
- 25:34Speaker 2: say it. The 1900s? That is what they say. Yes.
- 25:44Speaker 2: oh they know ball huh yeah yeah thanks kids yeah
- 25:50Speaker 2: oh man because like i'm just i gotta wear 13
- 25:53Speaker 2: minimums 13 pieces of flair oh man okay um.
- 26:02Speaker 5: I totally lost track of where we were because now
- 26:04Speaker 5: we're on to canada canadian we're talking about canada.
- 26:09Speaker 2: Canadian Nationals, they went over. I don't know if we
- 26:12Speaker 2: have any results. Looks like we don't. We do. Are
- 26:17Speaker 2: these Canada's Nationals, or are these Italy's? No, I'm sorry,
- 26:20Speaker 2: not Italy's.
- 26:22Speaker 1: So at the top, you have UK Nationals, which is
- 26:24Speaker 1: already run. You can see Sweden's Nationals. Go down to
- 26:28Speaker 1: the next.
- 26:29Speaker 5: You just tell us.
- 26:30Speaker 4: Spot it up!
- 26:32Speaker 5: Spoon, Fedez!
- 26:37Speaker 4: So on the left side there, following along, it's Sealed, Archon,
- 26:41Speaker 4: and Alliance.
- 26:41Speaker 1: So if we look for the Canadian Nationals, you have
- 26:46Speaker 1: Atomic Wedgie, who was your Sealed winner.
- 26:51Speaker 2: Who is Canadian.
- 26:52Speaker 4: Archon winner was DC Trace. Also Canadian. And your Alliance
- 26:57Speaker 4: winner was Green Bean Cowboy.
- 27:01Speaker 2: Oh, that's a sick name.
- 27:04Speaker 4: The runner-up for Sealed was... This Invictus.
- 27:09Speaker 1: So Atomic Wedgie and this Invictus get the invites for Canadian.
- 27:17Speaker 4: Canadian Sealed.
- 27:19Speaker 2: Okay.
- 27:20Speaker 1: You then have DC Trey's well-known name and Green Bean
- 27:24Speaker 1: Cowboy for Archon winner and runner up. And then Green
- 27:29Speaker 1: Bean Cowboy was winner for Alliance. And Jace was the
- 27:33Speaker 1: runner up for Alliance.
- 27:35Speaker 2: Man, way to represent Jason.
- 27:38Speaker 4: He's doing a phenomenal job. Green Bean Cowboy having a
- 27:41Speaker 4: great weekend.
- 27:43Speaker 2: Jason is in.
- 27:44Speaker 5: A lot of these things. How does that make all
- 27:45Speaker 5: you guys... Draskor's got an invite. I was going to say,
- 27:48Speaker 5: Jason's got an invite before most of us.
- 27:51Speaker 4: I have an invite.
- 27:54Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you got an invite last year.
- 27:56Speaker 4: Oh yeah. Yeah.
- 28:00Speaker 5: Okay, so it's just Loki and I are scrubbing now.
- 28:02Speaker 2: We'll be... Draskor has an invite?
- 28:03Speaker 5: Yeah, man.
- 28:04Speaker 2: See you. He got a third. That's right. He just
- 28:10Speaker 2: got passed down.
- 28:11Speaker 5: He got the right third place.
- 28:13Speaker 4: You call me deuce. Yep.
- 28:16Speaker 2: Alright. He's Tres Leches Drascor.
- 28:22Speaker 4: Tres Leches.
- 28:26Speaker 2: Tres Leches Drascor. Tres Leches Drascor. It's just some weird
- 28:33Speaker 2: ketamine pill.
- 28:39Speaker 5: Yeah yeah it's just you and me i don't know
- 28:41Speaker 5: what's funny sheep is the past two years it was
- 28:44Speaker 5: you and me who only had the invites yeah well.
- 28:49Speaker 2: Sometimes you just gotta slum it with the regular folks
- 28:51Speaker 2: sheep yeah i know every now.
- 28:54Speaker 1: And again i don't like it boys do yeah go
- 28:58Speaker 1: ahead You also had a sweet, sweet, sweet write-up from Judo.
- 29:05Speaker 1: So the Dutch Nationals had 23 players, six nationalities. I
- 29:11Speaker 1: will highlight this sweet website. Man, the Netherforge Lions has
- 29:19Speaker 1: a tournament write-up. And if you have not checked that out,
- 29:24Speaker 1: just total props. Some sweet pictures.
- 29:28Speaker 4: And you can actually see.
- 29:29Speaker 2: The setup here too. Oh, like, I don't know where
- 29:33Speaker 2: they held it, but that is quite the place.
- 29:37Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 29:37Speaker 2: Well, it's, is fancy. There's curtains and everything. This is
- 29:44Speaker 2: a proper place here. They have trophies. Stroopwafel trophies. And
- 29:56Speaker 2: somebody has made a drawing of our release card. The
- 30:04Speaker 2: boom dude.
- 30:06Speaker 1: I won't go ahead and steal some thunder because I
- 30:08Speaker 1: think there's some more information coming from it. But definitely
- 30:11Speaker 1: check out Netherforge Lions and tournaments. Kind of that website.
- 30:17Speaker 2: I do find it a little fishy that Judo won
- 30:20Speaker 2: his own nationalities title. Well, that's where he's going. He
- 30:24Speaker 2: didn't run it. It's fine.
- 30:26Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't run it. He just did the actual write-up.
- 30:28Speaker 2: And he also won with DM. He did kick some ass,
- 30:32Speaker 2: so good job, sir.
- 30:33Speaker 4: Yeah, so Judo took first, and Motility 5 came second
- 30:37Speaker 4: for Archon. They have Master Vault.
- 30:41Speaker 5: I have Motility 5 on my ABR team.
- 30:43Speaker 2: There you go.
- 30:44Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
- 30:47Speaker 1: But there's a sweet listing of decks and what's kind
- 30:52Speaker 1: of happening for Alliance.
- 30:54Speaker 2: Judo took first in Alliance, and I don't mean to
- 30:57Speaker 2: cut you off. He took first in Alliance and Arkham, right?
- 31:01Speaker 1: And so Judo took first, yep, and Ashitaka took second
- 31:05Speaker 1: in Alliance.
- 31:06Speaker 2: So is Judo now Timu Dexter?
- 31:09Speaker 5: Well... No, these are Nationals.
- 31:12Speaker 2: No, they don't count the same.
- 31:13Speaker 5: That's Timu Sheik.
- 31:15Speaker 4: Can we just call him International Timu?
- 31:19Speaker 2: No, I was going to say, is it Wish then?
- 31:22Speaker 2: Because Wish was International. So is he Wish Vargas or
- 31:27Speaker 2: Wish Dexter?
- 31:29Speaker 5: No, no, no. This is Nationals, not Vault Tour.
- 31:32Speaker 4: Right.
- 31:33Speaker 5: Different.
- 31:35Speaker 2: But that's why I went with Wish instead of Timu.
- 31:39Speaker 2: Never mind. All right, keep going.
- 31:44Speaker 5: Those guys are double Voltour winners, which is different than
- 31:46Speaker 5: a double Nationals winner.
- 31:48Speaker 4: I was just looking at his Alliance deck, and yeah,
- 31:52Speaker 4: there is.
- 31:53Speaker 5: Yeah, it was Donkey Measures.
- 31:55Speaker 2: It was DM Best Set, according to LordJudo, which is
- 31:59Speaker 2: what he named his....
- 32:02Speaker 5: If you disagree with him, he'll throw you. It is
- 32:07Speaker 5: DM Best Set now.
- 32:10Speaker 2: I disagree with him.
- 32:13Speaker 5: He has offered to throw you many times.
- 32:15Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. Maybe I like being thrown. I like
- 32:21Speaker 2: Ashitaka's deck name. 2.30am, the day of Dutch Nationals. Yep.
- 32:30Speaker 2: Let's see. Bot or not, is Goldfish the Goldfish OU?
- 32:34Speaker 2: Is it Goldfish? I'm not quite sure.
- 32:39Speaker 4: And then for fields, your top two.
- 32:42Speaker 2: No, no, this is the best one. Hold on. Because
- 32:45Speaker 2: Lorenzo named his deck.
- 32:47Speaker 5: Spoiler, you lose. But, sir, you are in the top eight. So, clearly, spoiler,
- 32:53Speaker 5: you lost.
- 32:54Speaker 2: I'm in top eight. You did good.
- 32:57Speaker 5: That's because he played. Oh, no, sorry. That's the 23-player event.
- 33:02Speaker 2: I'm getting a move.
- 33:03Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 33:04Speaker 2: That's Alliance.
- 33:06Speaker 4: Uh, for, for sealed, you had motility dragon taking.
- 33:09Speaker 5: First and I also have them on my.
- 33:14Speaker 4: And spy master taking second. So I got to say.
- 33:18Speaker 2: Uh, this is a phenomenal like website. You clearly just
- 33:24Speaker 2: did a great job. Even if you don't read it,
- 33:27Speaker 2: just go look at it. Like it is very visually appealing, right?
- 33:33Speaker 2: we have to do something about these. Maybe. I don't know.
- 33:38Speaker 2: We got to do something about these. I love the graphs,
- 33:41Speaker 2: but can we get rid of the 1990s safety slideshow
- 33:48Speaker 2: gradient that's on there? Can we fix that at all?
- 33:53Speaker 2: I really shouldn't talk shit because I can't do better.
- 33:56Speaker 5: Maybe the 90s are still cool over there.
- 33:59Speaker 2: Oh, dude, that'd be sweet. I would totally live there
- 34:02Speaker 2: if that was the case.
- 34:02Speaker 4: You can also actually see the Dutch border decks, so
- 34:06Speaker 4: you can see, which is pretty cool.
- 34:09Speaker 2: Pretty cool.
- 34:11Speaker 4: Since we don't have access to those border decks.
- 34:14Speaker 2: Well, right, and that's the thing. Sheep's like, well, it's
- 34:16Speaker 2: a Nationals. It's not as good as a Vault Tour,
- 34:19Speaker 2: which really these things are the same.
- 34:20Speaker 5: But the prizes are better than a Vault Tour? Yeah,
- 34:22Speaker 5: I can't help that.
- 34:23Speaker 4: I don't understand.
- 34:24Speaker 2: I can't help that. I don't understand why there's a difference.
- 34:28Speaker 5: Except here, I won it, where the prizes were only
- 34:31Speaker 5: cool because the Canadians handmade cool prizes.
- 34:34Speaker 2: Right. I still don't understand why we make such a
- 34:38Speaker 2: huge distinction between Vault Tour and Nationals.
- 34:45Speaker 5: Because we have to extra disappoint the world. It's who's
- 34:47Speaker 5: footing the bill for the event. That's the difference.
- 34:50Speaker 2: That sounds like a clerical thing that GG needs to
- 34:53Speaker 2: figure out. Like, you're telling me we couldn't figure whether
- 34:59Speaker 2: they can't figure out, like, oh, we didn't pay for
- 35:01Speaker 2: this one. Or, like, some spreadsheet they can't, you know. Like,
- 35:05Speaker 2: let's be honest. Like, all the Vault Tour winners and
- 35:08Speaker 2: people who have invites are all held in, like, a
- 35:10Speaker 2: Google Docs somewhere. Right? They're not paying for Excel. Straight
- 35:14Speaker 2: up Google. Right? Google Docs is fine.
- 35:19Speaker 4: Right.
- 35:19Speaker 5: Google Docs is fine. Not at my company, it isn't.
- 35:25Speaker 3: At a real company, you don't want to do that
- 35:31Speaker 3: at a real company.
- 35:35Speaker 5: I can't even access my Google Drive from my work devices.
- 35:39Speaker 2: I used to be able to log in, but now
- 35:42Speaker 2: I can't. They locked it. It's kind of annoying.
- 35:46Speaker 4: And in our beautiful, outdated school system, that is what
- 35:49Speaker 4: we are using.
- 35:51Speaker 2: Can we just go back to in a real company?
- 35:56Speaker 4: This is where I was coming in. I will say...
- 36:00Speaker 4: The school system's not a company.
- 36:02Speaker 2: No.
- 36:06Speaker 4: We're trying to run it like that.
- 36:07Speaker 1: Anyway.
- 36:08Speaker 2: We can talk about the economic philosophies designed around school
- 36:14Speaker 2: education later on a different podcast. That'll have to be
- 36:17Speaker 2: on the Patreon.
- 36:19Speaker 1: So Taiwan also had their nationals last weekend. Did I
- 36:23Speaker 1: see that this one was also run with like... It
- 36:27Speaker 1: was a much smaller amount of individuals that came out
- 36:31Speaker 1: for the Taiwan Nationals.
- 36:32Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 36:33Speaker 4: Did you guys also see that? I was trying to
- 36:35Speaker 4: find the numbers.
- 36:35Speaker 5: I saw nothing. Okay.
- 36:37Speaker 2: I didn't see anything out of Taiwan. I might have
- 36:40Speaker 2: blown it up in the... You did. I had it before.
- 36:45Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 36:46Speaker 1: It's gone now. I can't find it. But shout out
- 36:49Speaker 1: some well-known names here.
- 36:50Speaker 4: Sealds and.
- 36:52Speaker 1: And then runner up being my chill qualifying for Archon.
- 36:56Speaker 1: You have Jake Lee and Chen 0 3 0 3.
- 36:59Speaker 1: And then for alliances zone and then way to. So
- 37:05Speaker 1: definitely some individuals.
- 37:06Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 37:08Speaker 1: Well, it's actually like it's great having been at Vietnam.
- 37:14Speaker 1: There's an actual face that can go with a couple
- 37:16Speaker 1: of these names, which is really cool.
- 37:18Speaker 2: So here's here's a fun fact, right? So since ReapOut
- 37:22Speaker 2: is scooping up all the internationals from Europe, should we
- 37:25Speaker 2: scoop them all up from Asia?
- 37:26Speaker 5: No, they took all the Asians already.
- 37:30Speaker 2: Oh, they took all the Asians too? Damn.
- 37:33Speaker 4: You're multiple.
- 37:35Speaker 2: That's okay. I got who I wanted from Europe. I'm
- 37:40Speaker 2: happy with my decisions.
- 37:44Speaker 1: Yeah, so shout out to everyone who got some sweet
- 37:47Speaker 1: decks and qualified for Worlds.
- 37:50Speaker 4: Well done.
- 37:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 37:53Speaker 5: Yeah, we would all like to play in a national,
- 37:55Speaker 5: but we're not allowed.
- 37:57Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't play in an international.
- 37:59Speaker 5: In our own national, we can't.
- 38:01Speaker 2: When you have a vault tour.
- 38:03Speaker 5: Yep.
- 38:05Speaker 2: You gotta just have stuff.
- 38:09Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 38:10Speaker 2: I got nothing. Alright, moving on to the next thing.
- 38:12Speaker 2: What do we got up next? That's it, Boo. Do
- 38:18Speaker 2: we talk about the show now? We talked about China. China.
- 38:23Speaker 2: Are we wrapping up a quick 30-minute episode? I'm down.
- 38:31Speaker 2: We can do stuff. We totally haven't finished scoring DM. Fine.
- 38:38Speaker 2: Pull it up.
- 38:41Speaker 5: Quickly.
- 38:42Speaker 2: 30 minutes.
- 38:45Speaker 4: This is actually what our listeners are hoping for. Just once.
- 38:49Speaker 2: These are some of our proper episodes, as you have said.
- 38:53Speaker 1: We used to actually keep this a lot more succinct
- 38:56Speaker 1: and shorter.
- 38:57Speaker 4: That's just where we are. So, yes, we removed items.
- 39:00Speaker 1: I think Italy this weekend is going to see some very, very,
- 39:04Speaker 1: very high-level decks. So I'm excited to be able to
- 39:07Speaker 1: see the competition, how many people they have. I think
- 39:11Speaker 1: Nashville is going to be a great time, too. So
- 39:14Speaker 1: we're good, boys.
- 39:18Speaker 5: Hold on.
- 39:19Speaker 2: Let me pull stuff here so we can... We're doing fish.
- 39:23Speaker 3: Look at somewhere you want to do... uh all right
- 39:27Speaker 3: houses we'll do the fish house unfathomable no crucible clash
- 39:32Speaker 3: no discovery.
- 39:36Speaker 2: Um we could talk about how.
- 39:39Speaker 4: See you in uh tennessee may the forge be with you.
- 39:44Speaker 2: I masterfully piloted an Ember Skies deck and destroyed a
- 39:48Speaker 2: whole bunch of Donkey Measures decks.
- 39:53Speaker 1: That were all, what, 60-some sass?
- 39:57Speaker 2: And my Ember Skies deck was a 67.
- 39:59Speaker 5: Yeah, but you had creature control. And Amber controls, so
- 40:06Speaker 5: you got to win.
- 40:07Speaker 2: Good job.
- 40:10Speaker 4: All right.
- 40:10Speaker 2: Oh, there's not too many cards. There's only 14 cards.
- 40:13Speaker 2: Is that what you're seeing? 14 new cards? And fish?
- 40:18Speaker 5: Maybe.
- 40:20Speaker 2: Hold on. I took out Vault Master 26. Is that
- 40:23Speaker 2: your other 17 if I don't take out Vault Master 26?
- 40:26Speaker 3: The one filter I don't have in Draft Score is,
- 40:29Speaker 3: you know, first time.
- 40:31Speaker 5: Yeah, 17 cards. 17 cards.
- 40:34Speaker 2: Oh, first card. Brine Reckoning. Get a pip of ember
- 40:37Speaker 2: every time you play it. Play each player discards the
- 40:41Speaker 2: top five cards of their deck. Why?
- 40:46Speaker 5: Okay. I hate this card.
- 40:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 40:52Speaker 5: Because there's no meaningful recursion in donkeys. All this ever
- 41:01Speaker 5: does is flip your best card off your deck. I mean,
- 41:05Speaker 5: there are, there are some like bad deck sealed situations
- 41:10Speaker 5: where you've played through your three good cards, right? Like you,
- 41:13Speaker 5: you already played your, you already played your Hannibal's Mark
- 41:16Speaker 5: and your jumpstart. So you're like, let's grind until we
- 41:19Speaker 5: flip this deck. But ultimately from an Archon point of view,
- 41:24Speaker 5: this card is a zero. And with the amber, it
- 41:27Speaker 5: has a negative one because it makes you mad because
- 41:30Speaker 5: you play.
- 41:30Speaker 4: It does.
- 41:31Speaker 2: And then you lose a card.
- 41:32Speaker 5: You're like, oh, my God, I just lost this game
- 41:34Speaker 5: because that because my other or both of my both
- 41:39Speaker 5: of my board clear just got flipped off my back.
- 41:41Speaker 5: This is stupid.
- 41:42Speaker 3: The annoying thing to me is they could have made
- 41:45Speaker 3: this an interesting card just by putting some maze in here.
- 41:49Speaker 2: Right. Play.
- 41:50Speaker 5: Play.
- 41:51Speaker 3: You may discard the top five cards of your deck.
- 41:54Speaker 3: You may discard the top five cards of your opponent's deck.
- 41:57Speaker 3: Then it's like, okay, if you're trying to flip your deck,
- 42:00Speaker 3: if you're trying to burn their card, now you've got options.
- 42:03Speaker 3: And if you're just like, well, I just need the
- 42:06Speaker 3: Ember Pip, you could still do that. But no, they
- 42:09Speaker 3: were just like, you're just going to do stupid shit.
- 42:10Speaker 3: You know what DocuMeasures is really good at? Making games
- 42:15Speaker 3: it should lose to in about 15 minutes go to
- 42:17Speaker 3: 30 minutes. They still lose, but now you've played longer.
- 42:24Speaker 5: I have more bias against this card because I swear
- 42:29Speaker 5: this thing is an attractor for enhancement pips, too. There's
- 42:33Speaker 5: so many decks where this gets one of the enhancements.
- 42:35Speaker 2: So are we putting this at a one?
- 42:36Speaker 5: Oh, now I really want to play it. I hate
- 42:39Speaker 5: this zero. I really hate this card.
- 42:41Speaker 2: I put it at a one because of the pip.
- 42:43Speaker 2: I love how every other time when we're like, hey,
- 42:44Speaker 2: let's do cards. I put a one because of a pip.
- 42:46Speaker 2: Let's do cards. Sheep's like, one. We don't need to
- 42:49Speaker 2: talk about this card. Why are we talking about this card?
- 42:50Speaker 2: Let's move on.
- 42:51Speaker 3: Yes.
- 42:52Speaker 2: And now, but this card. He's like, no. This card's
- 42:56Speaker 2: going to get it.
- 42:56Speaker 5: I have a personal hatred of this card.
- 43:00Speaker 2: All right. Ewok, what are you giving it? I gave
- 43:03Speaker 2: it a one. You gave it a one. It's up
- 43:06Speaker 2: to Ewok now.
- 43:07Speaker 4: One. One.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Dazed and Confused. So many opportunities to put fantastic flavor
- 43:15Speaker 2: text on this card, and you fucked it up. No
- 43:19Speaker 2: pip of ember. Play exhaust a creature in each of
- 43:21Speaker 2: its neighbors. Stun two exhausted creatures. Needed, you know. Yeah,
- 43:29Speaker 2: I kind of would like a pip here.
- 43:31Speaker 5: I mean, this is another one of those cards that
- 43:38Speaker 5: you could have lost 10 minutes faster.
- 43:42Speaker 2: But no, you got to tap down my creatures that
- 43:44Speaker 2: do things. So now you'll lose in 30 minutes as
- 43:47Speaker 2: opposed to 15 minutes. Yeah, I put it as a two.
- 43:53Speaker 2: It is a two. It has some effect.
- 43:57Speaker 5: It's not a bad effect, actually.
- 43:58Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not amazing.
- 44:01Speaker 3: If it had a pip, maybe I'd give it a three.
- 44:04Speaker 5: Actually, there are other effects that are similar to this,
- 44:07Speaker 5: and this one's a little bit stronger.
- 44:10Speaker 2: Is it because you get to pick the two exhausted creatures?
- 44:13Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be.
- 44:14Speaker 5: Although there is always that potential world where for some
- 44:18Speaker 5: reason you have to stun your own creature.
- 44:23Speaker 4: You can literally discard it for no penalty.
- 44:26Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm saying if they have only one creature
- 44:28Speaker 5: on board.
- 44:30Speaker 2: Alright, what card is similar but in the same ballpark?
- 44:32Speaker 2: What do we score that?
- 44:35Speaker 3: What else?
- 44:35Speaker 5: There's other exhaust cards. Yeah, Tremors. Tremor's similar. That just stuns.
- 44:42Speaker 5: Doesn't even exhaust.
- 44:43Speaker 2: I thought it exhausted him, too.
- 44:45Speaker 5: Does it? It might not.
- 44:47Speaker 2: I don't know how to spell tremor. I haven't seen
- 44:49Speaker 2: tremor in so long. How do you spell tremor? T-R-E-M-O-R. T-R-E-M-O-R.
- 44:56Speaker 5: Tremor?
- 44:57Speaker 2: What is going on? If you are getting spelling advice
- 45:00Speaker 2: from me, you are doing it wrong. Well, okay. Why
- 45:06Speaker 2: y'all look that up? Well, actually, no. We need scores.
- 45:08Speaker 2: We need scores, too.
- 45:10Speaker 5: Drazkor.
- 45:12Speaker 2: I gave it a 2.
- 45:12Speaker 5: Ewok. Yeah, I'm fine with that.
- 45:15Speaker 4: Alright, sweet.
- 45:17Speaker 2: Dreamcall. Pip of Ember every time you play it.
- 45:22Speaker 5: Stun a creature and each of its neighbors.
- 45:26Speaker 2: Play exhaust a creature for each copy of Dreamcall in
- 45:29Speaker 2: your discard pile. Exhaust another creature and draw a card.
- 45:34Speaker 5: So this is linked rarity. You always get at least 2.
- 45:40Speaker 5: Is it for more or ever?
- 45:42Speaker 4: Yes.
- 45:43Speaker 2: I've always seen it as three. It's at least two.
- 45:46Speaker 2: I've got decks with two.
- 45:48Speaker 4: I have decks with two and I have decks with three.
- 45:54Speaker 5: So take that into account because.
- 45:56Speaker 2: This is filling up slots. Yeah, but you're also getting
- 46:01Speaker 2: ember pips too. You do get to draw.
- 46:04Speaker 5: And you get to draw, but it's draw basically You
- 46:07Speaker 5: have to have one in your discard pile to draw one.
- 46:11Speaker 4: Yeah, so the first card is literally Amber Pip.
- 46:15Speaker 2: Exhausted Creature.
- 46:17Speaker 5: There are nine decks with five.
- 46:21Speaker 4: If you can go for the second one.
- 46:25Speaker 2: Okay.
- 46:26Speaker 4: This is where I think.
- 46:29Speaker 5: That's actually kind of an interesting thought. Except you just
- 46:33Speaker 5: keep going back to the same house, though, because at
- 46:35Speaker 5: a point you're just Exhausting Creature. A bunch of the
- 46:37Speaker 5: same stuff. I don't know. A bunch of pips.
- 46:42Speaker 2: Still a bunch of pips.
- 46:44Speaker 5: But you got it. So when you score this, you
- 46:46Speaker 5: got to think about it because it's going to be
- 46:47Speaker 5: at least two cards in the deck that get the
- 46:49Speaker 5: same score.
- 46:53Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 46:54Speaker 5: Kind of weird one to score and dress for.
- 47:00Speaker 2: Yeah, because I did not. I never implemented that scaling
- 47:03Speaker 2: situation or anything like that.
- 47:06Speaker 4: This scales better, but that's not what you have.
- 47:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 47:10Speaker 5: It feels okay. Yeah, I don't know if it scales better.
- 47:15Speaker 4: Well, I do.
- 47:17Speaker 1: I think three is better than two, but yes, there
- 47:20Speaker 1: does come a point where it's not.
- 47:22Speaker 5: I actually think there comes a point. I think you won.
- 47:25Speaker 5: Because when you have six, you just keep playing them,
- 47:28Speaker 5: and then you end up with a hand of 12 cards.
- 47:31Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 47:32Speaker 5: And it's super strong. But then you're going to have
- 47:34Speaker 5: a boss next turn. You filter out all of your
- 47:38Speaker 5: fish really quick. Like, that seems really strong. So it
- 47:42Speaker 5: is a scaling thing, I think. But on average, typical
- 47:45Speaker 5: deck's going to be two to three.
- 47:48Speaker 2: That's right.
- 47:48Speaker 5: That card is, on average, it's better. Is it better
- 47:55Speaker 5: than the last card because of the draw? I'm not convinced.
- 47:57Speaker 5: So I think they're twos.
- 48:00Speaker 2: I am okay with doing them two right now.
- 48:02Speaker 5: It does have an Amber pip, which is nice, but
- 48:04Speaker 5: I still love it. I do now want to go
- 48:09Speaker 5: try one of these five or six decks and see
- 48:11Speaker 5: how they play.
- 48:12Speaker 2: See what happens. Losing 30 minutes instead of 15. Yeah,
- 48:15Speaker 2: that's cool.
- 48:16Speaker 4: I have it as a three.
- 48:17Speaker 2: All right. Fathom Share.
- 48:22Speaker 5: Pip of Amber. Every time you play it, play capture
- 48:25Speaker 5: half your opponent's Amber rounding down. Distribute among any number
- 48:30Speaker 5: of creatures. Oh wait, there's a friendly in there. We
- 48:33Speaker 5: didn't forget it this time. It almost became a very
- 48:38Speaker 5: good card. Has an amber pip, so that's nice on it.
- 48:44Speaker 5: You're never not gonna play it.
- 48:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 48:49Speaker 5: But it's like, it's.
- 48:50Speaker 3: Not There are ways to take advantage of it, but yeah,
- 48:54Speaker 3: but it's, you know, it's not.
- 48:56Speaker 5: As good as the other effects, but it's pretty good.
- 48:58Speaker 5: It's probably, you know, it's semi scaling. Is that, is that,
- 49:02Speaker 5: is this good enough to be a four?
- 49:06Speaker 3: So I had entered it as a three. The community
- 49:10Speaker 3: has clearly thought that was underrated. The community is a 4.3
- 49:14Speaker 3: right now.
- 49:15Speaker 2: I'd give it a 4. With the Umber Pip, I'd
- 49:18Speaker 2: give it a 4, yeah.
- 49:23Speaker 5: It's Crosshouse to get the good effects, right?
- 49:28Speaker 1: Or is Whirlpool on this set?
- 49:32Speaker 3: No.
- 49:32Speaker 1: This is literally Sanctum Capture. It's nice that you can
- 49:37Speaker 1: distribute it amongst... If you have board, which DM typically has,
- 49:41Speaker 1: you can distribute it to other multiple creatures.
- 49:45Speaker 4: But the problem is that it's just delayed to do
- 49:49Speaker 4: anything with.
- 49:50Speaker 5: There's also, at the same time, that you actually have
- 49:53Speaker 5: to have a creature, which you're not guaranteed to have.
- 49:56Speaker 2: Right.
- 49:57Speaker 4: In DM, you're guaranteed to have a creature. Yeah, I
- 50:00Speaker 4: think this is scaling, and it's solid.
- 50:04Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm staying at my four. I'm fine. Four?
- 50:10Speaker 2: Yes, four. Alright, I will update it to four. Hemogryth
- 50:18Speaker 2: to power beast. Play if there are no enemy exhausted creatures.
- 50:24Speaker 2: Your opponent loses two.
- 50:31Speaker 3: So, by the way, this reminds me that I should
- 50:39Speaker 3: have gotten more Vietnamese decks in, in Vietnam because, well,
- 50:46Speaker 3: because I use Google translate on some of these decks
- 50:50Speaker 3: and some of them are hilarious. So this one is, uh,
- 50:55Speaker 3: so the hemogryph is just blood seahorse, which is kind
- 50:58Speaker 3: of fun. Um, you got, uh, here I took, I
- 51:04Speaker 3: took some screenshots. You got the nightmare hedgehog, which is, um,
- 51:09Speaker 3: uh the nightmare urchin that's fun um did i talk
- 51:14Speaker 3: about this on the cast already i don't know did
- 51:16Speaker 3: i talk about no we.
- 51:18Speaker 2: Did talk about the funny translations.
- 51:21Speaker 5: We did okay not each one individually no okay there's
- 51:28Speaker 5: a couple cold stick is the uh cold stick is
- 51:35Speaker 5: the um.
- 51:37Speaker 2: Whatchamacallit. Alright, so what is the Blood Sea Horse getting?
- 51:42Speaker 5: It's interesting, because I have it, my score is a 4,
- 51:45Speaker 5: and that's still where I think this card belongs.
- 51:48Speaker 2: This is a very good card. I think this set
- 51:52Speaker 2: is less impactful in DM, but incredibly impactful cross-set.
- 51:59Speaker 5: As we have learned, people are in serious games of
- 52:03Speaker 5: Key Forge. There are only about three creatures that ever
- 52:07Speaker 5: get kept tapped down because most of the... Most of
- 52:12Speaker 5: the entrenched facts are garbage.
- 52:14Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta definitely keep grainy taps tapped.
- 52:17Speaker 5: And then there's enough bounce... There's enough bounce in fish
- 52:20Speaker 5: that often, even when you have this, you just bounce
- 52:22Speaker 5: their exhausted creature or do the board clear because.
- 52:26Speaker 2: And you get the two anyways. Yeah, I'm cool with
- 52:28Speaker 2: a four.
- 52:28Speaker 5: And you get the two anyways.
- 52:29Speaker 2: I think he's a four. I.
- 52:33Speaker 3: I definitely have found this to be better than I
- 52:35Speaker 3: originally thought, so I had scored it kind of probably
- 52:38Speaker 3: too low.
- 52:40Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought the community is only at like three.
- 52:42Speaker 3: But yeah, I think this is I originally added a two.
- 52:46Speaker 2: I was ready to update it to a three.
- 52:48Speaker 5: I think this is a solid recursive card.
- 52:53Speaker 1: I have it as a three. I can be talked higher.
- 52:56Speaker 1: I think the play effect, the loss of two, it's solid.
- 53:01Speaker 5: I will say I have legitimately played DM sealed games
- 53:06Speaker 5: where when they have unfathomable, I will keep a creature
- 53:10Speaker 5: entrenched just because of this guy.
- 53:13Speaker 2: Because of this little squirrely rascal.
- 53:16Speaker 5: Yeah, because this is a common.
- 53:18Speaker 2: What other cards burn ember like this? Burn a stockpile. No, well, no,
- 53:26Speaker 2: whatever on play.
- 53:27Speaker 3: Like, is there any other play you're going to lose
- 53:29Speaker 3: to ember?
- 53:31Speaker 2: Not two, but there's some disc guys that like play
- 53:34Speaker 2: a loser.
- 53:34Speaker 4: Rock grub is the one.
- 53:35Speaker 5: That's probably three.
- 53:37Speaker 4: One.
- 53:38Speaker 2: Yeah. Rock grub is not. Rock grub is a three.
- 53:42Speaker 2: It's got that archive ability.
- 53:44Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 53:45Speaker 2: You cycle it. I mean, you.
- 53:49Speaker 3: Know.
- 53:50Speaker 2: Alright, I'm on board with a four. Let's do it.
- 53:53Speaker 2: Here we go. Hydrogan.
- 53:58Speaker 4: Play.
- 53:59Speaker 2: This is our gigantic and unfathomable.
- 54:04Speaker 4: Play.
- 54:05Speaker 2: Put each other creature face up under Hydrogan. After fight,
- 54:13Speaker 2: after reap, Put a creature from under Hydrogen into play
- 54:18Speaker 2: under your control. Destroyed. Purge each card under Hydrogen. I
- 54:26Speaker 2: actually like this guy.
- 54:28Speaker 4: Yeah, for the giant, this is actually the giant you
- 54:31Speaker 4: want to see.
- 54:32Speaker 2: It has.
- 54:36Speaker 1: No, you still don't want, but I'm saying out of the...
- 54:39Speaker 1: Out of all the giants, if they're like, you have
- 54:41Speaker 1: to have one, I would pick this one. Yep. So
- 54:46Speaker 1: there's a reason to go out and pull up.
- 54:49Speaker 2: There's three. Maybe there's not. I don't know. The dragon
- 54:53Speaker 2: one's not terrible either.
- 54:56Speaker 5: The dragon one?
- 54:58Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 54:59Speaker 5: It's the key cost increaser.
- 55:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:01Speaker 5: I think it's.
- 55:04Speaker 4: Because of the destroyed purge each card under hydrogen.
- 55:08Speaker 2: That could be super powerful and a reason for your
- 55:11Speaker 2: opponent not to kill it. And then you get all
- 55:15Speaker 2: their critters.
- 55:16Speaker 5: Or it just gets bounced and that doesn't mean anything.
- 55:19Speaker 5: And then they all go to the discard pile. I mean,
- 55:21Speaker 5: this is a board clear. It's a two-card board clear.
- 55:25Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:26Speaker 5: Three-card board clear. Yeah.
- 55:29Speaker 2: I gave it a three.
- 55:31Speaker 5: I was going to say, I can let it sit
- 55:33Speaker 5: at a three.
- 55:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 55:34Speaker 2: I was going to give it a two. I don't
- 55:35Speaker 2: know if it was quite that good. It's still three
- 55:37Speaker 2: cards in my unfathomable deck.
- 55:40Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 55:40Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 55:42Speaker 2: Because this is, again, this is that weird one where
- 55:44Speaker 2: both halves get the same hole. So are we saying
- 55:48Speaker 2: this whole thing is worth a six?
- 55:51Speaker 5: Is it the whole pile is worth six then?
- 55:57Speaker 2: Each card is worth three. So this is worth six?
- 56:01Speaker 3: Three plus three plus whatever the search card is. And
- 56:05Speaker 3: depending on the search card, it varies, right? The crap
- 56:08Speaker 3: one is crap. The crap one, well, it's bad.
- 56:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I had the set of two.
- 56:16Speaker 2: Digging up the monster, we have a one.
- 56:18Speaker 4: Yep.
- 56:19Speaker 2: Build your champion, we have a two. Okay.
- 56:23Speaker 3: And then the purge one, I don't know, where's that one?
- 56:28Speaker 3: Tome of Gigantic has a three.
- 56:32Speaker 2: Excuse me, I got it at a two. I'm going
- 56:34Speaker 2: to stick with my two. I'd probably get outvoted, and
- 56:36Speaker 2: that's fine. Ewok Ewok. Oh, is he in his seven
- 56:47Speaker 2: and a half minutes? Maybe. Kaipo. If he comes back,
- 56:52Speaker 2: we'll get his score. No, he's off. Okay, fair enough. Kaipo.
- 56:59Speaker 2: Five power, one hour taunter. At the end of your turn,
- 57:03Speaker 2: fully heal each of Kaipo's neighbors. That's a big fish.
- 57:10Speaker 5: I'm surprised this one isn't entrenched to get that effect.
- 57:13Speaker 2: No, it's not. It seems random what they do and don't.
- 57:16Speaker 2: You know, I did it.
- 57:18Speaker 5: So my power taunter, his healing ability is not. Critical.
- 57:24Speaker 5: So like what's by power taunters that leaves them in
- 57:26Speaker 5: the three realm?
- 57:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 57:28Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 57:28Speaker 2: Three.
- 57:29Speaker 4: You're saying typo at the five one. You don't think
- 57:32Speaker 4: the fully heal matters. It can.
- 57:36Speaker 2: If you put it next to the chosen one, it
- 57:38Speaker 2: can matter a lot.
- 57:40Speaker 5: I don't think it's changing its score.
- 57:45Speaker 4: Okay, I can hear that, but I do think that
- 57:48Speaker 4: there are some very significant fight effects that are here. Okay.
- 58:02Speaker 2: I had a typo to three. I think it's fine.
- 58:07Speaker 2: I don't think it's.
- 58:08Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever actually seen one in play.
- 58:11Speaker 2: I've played one. Not too many. I did. So my,
- 58:14Speaker 2: my ABR, right. You know, it was the captain with
- 58:17Speaker 2: our sealed pool.
- 58:18Speaker 3: I took the 12th best deck and my master plan
- 58:22Speaker 3: was double Kaipo chosen one.
- 58:24Speaker 2: That was my big play.
- 58:26Speaker 4: Uh, This is why we're losing, Drez.
- 58:32Speaker 3: I got both Kaibos ultra early, and the chosen one
- 58:37Speaker 3: wasn't until the end.
- 58:38Speaker 2: And you're like, and this is why we suck.
- 58:42Speaker 4: Yup.
- 58:42Speaker 5: Okay, Kinu.
- 58:44Speaker 2: It's Keanu.
- 58:46Speaker 5: Kinu.
- 58:49Speaker 3: Yes.
- 58:49Speaker 5: Let's do it.
- 58:53Speaker 2: I was waiting on Ewok since he's back. Alright, Kinu,
- 58:57Speaker 2: or Keanu.
- 58:58Speaker 5: Keanu.
- 58:59Speaker 4: I think I think I think I think from the
- 59:02Speaker 4: deep I've used very, very successfully. I also think that
- 59:06Speaker 4: keeping it next to what was the other card that
- 59:11Speaker 4: was there Princess Leilani so if there's some ping damage
- 59:19Speaker 4: but they can't finish her like that's where it can
- 59:23Speaker 4: really provide some extra protection but anyway yes I don't
- 59:27Speaker 4: think it raises the card go.
- 59:29Speaker 2: Ahead Keanu Fish. Two power aqua and he enhances with
- 59:33Speaker 2: a draw and two plus one power counters. Very exciting.
- 59:37Speaker 4: Play.
- 59:37Speaker 2: Choose an enemy creature with no plus one power counters
- 59:40Speaker 2: on it. Exhaust that creature and each of its neighbors. Yeah.
- 59:44Speaker 2: I'm thinking I'm back.
- 59:48Speaker 5: I definitely don't dislike this card. I'm generally happy to
- 59:54Speaker 5: have one or two in a deck.
- 59:56Speaker 2: And it's Keanu Reeves. How bad could you be? Or sealed.
- 59:59Speaker 2: It's good for sealed. Yeah, sure.
- 1:00:04Speaker 5: But how good is it? It's still only like a
- 1:00:06Speaker 5: three good?
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: Yeah. I put it at a three. I gave it
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: a three. You know, I almost gave it a four
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: to continue the meme, but.
- 1:00:21Speaker 4: It's a three.
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: I had it as a four, but as I'm looking here,
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: I mean, it has the drawn hands and then the
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: plus one counters enhance.
- 1:00:30Speaker 3: It is.
- 1:00:30Speaker 5: What are those damage?
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: They're plus one... I think those are plus one.
- 1:00:38Speaker 5: Yeah, those are plus one counters.
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: Those are plus one. Damages are filled in.
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: I mean, so it targets just enemy creatures, so you're
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: never going to go ahead and exhaust your own, but.
- 1:00:54Speaker 4: Would you want to?
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: No.
- 1:00:57Speaker 4: Well, potentially, if it's off-house to be able to key increases.
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: Weird Locarian combos? Correct.
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: For the most part, the answer is no, because the
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: later portion after the period is exhaust that creature and
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: each of its neighbors. So, knowing that you're getting a
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: draw pip, 2 plus 1 power counters, it's a little
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: anti-synergy there with creatures with no plus 1 power counters,
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: but you're increasing yours and basically exhausting, essentially.
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: two to three.
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: I mean, I guess technically if you have one creature
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: out on the other side, you'd exhaust one. But this
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: can do some work when you're exhausting multiple. I think
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: it is better for sealed than Archon, and that's just
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: because DM does not hold.
- 1:01:40Speaker 5: I think this works okay with your got a sand
- 1:01:43Speaker 5: in your eye style deck.
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: Good stuff.
- 1:01:47Speaker 5: Yeah. But still only like three.
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: Three, three, three, three, three, three, Three? Three is all round. Mine?
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: Mine?
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: Alright. I think we got three threes. The Knuckler, also,
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: aka the Fister. Three power, two damage, or two armor.
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: Deploy Entrench. While Knuckler is exhausted, each of its neighbors
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: get plus two armor.
- 1:02:20Speaker 5: That's exactly one of those effects that, like, why.
- 1:02:26Speaker 5: I mean, I know. There's going to get dumb. There
- 1:02:30Speaker 5: are scenarios where you're like, oh, my really good guy.
- 1:02:33Speaker 5: This nine power guy you guys keep talking about. Oh,
- 1:02:36Speaker 5: now he takes two less damage. Like, sure. Sure. But
- 1:02:39Speaker 5: in general, this is a card I dislike in a deck.
- 1:02:44Speaker 5: Outside of that, he does generally stick around to reap
- 1:02:47Speaker 5: because he's pretty pointless.
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:02:50Speaker 4: Which is why I gave him a one.
- 1:02:51Speaker 5: And he is a little tough.
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: A little tough.
- 1:02:54Speaker 5: He's the fister.
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: It's interesting. Is he worth a 2 or no? He's
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: just a 1. You give him a 2. He probably
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: tips for a buck.
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: Nope.
- 1:03:07Speaker 4: I dislike him that much. 1.
- 1:03:10Speaker 5: I'm between a 1 and a 2. I don't care.
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: I was cool with a 2. I've played him. He's
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: stuck on my board.
- 1:03:20Speaker 5: And that's in Sealed. In Archon, he's just a damn chain,
- 1:03:25Speaker 5: so make him a 1.
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. I guess he's also a target. He's
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: also a good Trench target, so... Fine.
- 1:03:34Speaker 5: He's a trash target.
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: Malina, 4 power Aquan and Trench. When Malina is exhausted,
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: your opponents can't play creatures more powerful than the most
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: powerful creature in play.
- 1:03:51Speaker 5: Yeah and she already starts at four I've rarely seen
- 1:03:55Speaker 5: this do anything this is another.
- 1:03:58Speaker 3: One and it's both sides right so it's like it's
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: not yours or theirs it's like oh.
- 1:04:04Speaker 5: Yeah so if they already got their one six power
- 1:04:07Speaker 5: creature down it.
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: Doesn't matter yeah and I've definitely seen this out and
- 1:04:13Speaker 3: they don't have what do you mean it's both sides.
- 1:04:17Speaker 5: You look at both sides to find most powerful oh
- 1:04:20Speaker 5: yeah fine yeah.
- 1:04:21Speaker 4: While Molina is exhausted, your opponent cannot play creatures more
- 1:04:25Speaker 4: powerful than the most powerful creature in play.
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: Yes, so you are checking both sides.
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: So I've definitely played this card, and my opponent had
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: no board, and I just had this card. I was like,
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: all right, they got some beefy.
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: Guys I don't want to deal with. Yeah, which isn't
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: that great. But then he played a Remi Hound.
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: Exhausted.
- 1:04:48Speaker 3: Exhausted. they played some four power creature or three power
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: creature played a Remy Hound so now that creature is
- 1:04:55Speaker 3: like seven power and then they put out some stuff
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: and I was like this sounds so dumb I can
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: never use it I added two originally I'm moving them
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: down to a one.
- 1:05:07Speaker 5: I would probably rather have a Canuckler than a Molina
- 1:05:11Speaker 5: yeah his name is Phil the Fister.
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: Paralysis Sinan Three power beast. After Reap, Stun and Rage
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: and Exhaust a creature. He is not awful. He dies
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: a lot, though.
- 1:05:28Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's a solid Reap effect.
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: It's a very solid Reap effect. I give him a three.
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: Stun and Rage and Exhaust. So now he's got it
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: ready for at least two turns, and you're probably putting them,
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: and they're probably not coming back. to get rid of the...
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: They got a ready, so that's a dead turn if
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: they wanted to go to the house.
- 1:05:52Speaker 5: I feel like this guy only dies when he's the
- 1:05:54Speaker 5: convenience target when I'm playing against him, though. Yeah, you
- 1:05:58Speaker 5: kill him before the knuckler or the Molina, but I
- 1:06:01Speaker 5: don't think he's.
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: Well, you put the knuckler next to him. That way
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: he has plus two armor. Now he's a three, too.
- 1:06:06Speaker 5: No, he doesn't, because you ready the knuckler.
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is a common, but what you have
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: to realize with this, okay, slow to be able to reap,
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: sure it's common but if you go ahead and wipe
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: their side you're not reaping with them because you stun
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: and rage and exhaust a creature meaning if they don't
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: have a creature you stun and enrage and exhaust yourself.
- 1:06:34Speaker 4: Yeah and yes that has been seen yeah.
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: I guess just i mean but like then don't do it.
- 1:06:43Speaker 4: Then you don't reap So you're just sitting there. You
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: don't reap. You don't fight because they don't have a board.
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: Don't go into fish.
- 1:06:53Speaker 5: Okay. Okay. So what is he?
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: A two?
- 1:06:55Speaker 5: A three? I have him as.
- 1:06:58Speaker 4: A two still with the stun and rage and exhaust,
- 1:07:01Speaker 4: but it is.
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: I think if you're like, I'm going to pivot and
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: I got a stun and rage and exhaust, you could
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: literally be doing anything else. I mean, I guess if
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: you have a handful of fish and you're forced into fish...
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: I don't know. I put him at a three. I
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: think he is... He might be on the upper echelon
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: of new creatures. Besides Kinu. I think Kinu might be
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: the best new creature.
- 1:07:27Speaker 5: Now we're about to get a better creature in the
- 1:07:29Speaker 5: next one we look at.
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: Princess Leilani? Yeah. Have you guys had... Okay. Princess Leilani.
- 1:07:35Speaker 5: That's a goddamn witch.
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: I mean, it is. She could be a problem, for sure.
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: After Reap, Exhaust an Enemy Creature. If you do, ready
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: a non-priest creature.
- 1:07:46Speaker 5: I mean, you want to talk about the guy who
- 1:07:47Speaker 5: works with your 30 power cheese ball or even with
- 1:07:50Speaker 5: a perilous sign in and that thing gets to reap twice.
- 1:07:54Speaker 5: Now you really are.
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: Now we're cooking with gas.
- 1:07:57Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:07:57Speaker 5: You're cooking with gas when you got Leilani's down.
- 1:08:00Speaker 4: Yes. And with common, you can see multiples.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: Yep. So they can't read each other.
- 1:08:07Speaker 5: But Leilani to me is a fork.
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: She might be because she's definitely something you have to
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: deal with where it can get out of hand.
- 1:08:17Speaker 4: She is a witch. The issue comes that.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: It's not on play. So you're going to have a
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: turn to respond. But yes, she is a witch. I
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: think she's very good. I had it as a four.
- 1:08:31Speaker 5: Four?
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: I can get out of board with a four. I
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: originally had it at a three. I thought those two
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: were very good.
- 1:08:37Speaker 3: I did originally two, but she's definitely good.
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: I can understand how it can get out of hand. Yes,
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: I get it. Sand in your eye. Exhaust a creature.
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: Draw a card for each exhausted creature. Destroy each exhausted creature.
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: Including your own.
- 1:08:57Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's on both sides.
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: Clearly. sides.
- 1:09:03Speaker 5: I had my scored on fathomable cards in the past,
- 1:09:07Speaker 5: and the only thing that I like about this so
- 1:09:09Speaker 5: far is every time I'm like, I think it should
- 1:09:12Speaker 5: be this. I wonder what other people like. I go
- 1:09:13Speaker 5: and I look and my score was already set at
- 1:09:15Speaker 5: exactly what I think it should be.
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: Oh, what did you think it should be? What was
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: my score set at?
- 1:09:20Speaker 5: Well, I have this set as a five. I think
- 1:09:23Speaker 5: this is one of the defining cards in a good
- 1:09:27Speaker 5: fish house.
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: I agree.
- 1:09:30Speaker 3: I originally had this at four, but I've played this
- 1:09:33Speaker 3: a few times and it has been pretty clutch. So
- 1:09:38Speaker 3: I think I need to upgrade this one.
- 1:09:40Speaker 4: I have it as a.
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: Go ahead. If you say four, we both have it
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: as four?
- 1:09:46Speaker 4: No, I have it as a five.
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: You have it as a five, too. I never found
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: the clutch moment in sand in your eye. I had
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: it as a four.
- 1:09:54Speaker 4: This is actually a chance.
- 1:09:58Speaker 5: You've also only ever played sealed where you don't have
- 1:10:03Speaker 5: a house that actually works with it really well. And
- 1:10:07Speaker 5: on its own, if you have no other exhaust in
- 1:10:10Speaker 5: your fish house and this is your only card with exhausting,
- 1:10:13Speaker 5: then this is a two. This is a nothing card.
- 1:10:16Speaker 4: Right?
- 1:10:17Speaker 5: It doesn't really do much. It exhausts and kills one creature,
- 1:10:21Speaker 5: or maybe because you have all one-value Canucklers, you actually
- 1:10:25Speaker 5: play all your Canucklers and then kill them all.
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: Draw them up, draw a bunch of cards.
- 1:10:31Speaker 5: I've seen that happen quite a few times, but I
- 1:10:34Speaker 5: think this card is very cool.
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good.
- 1:10:40Speaker 5: Can be a very one-sided board wipe.
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: You guys all think it's a five and ask what's up.
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: We'll go with five.
- 1:10:47Speaker 5: There's the put a creature on the bottom of your
- 1:10:49Speaker 5: deck and exhaust three guys. Card is in this set.
- 1:10:52Speaker 5: Keen is in this set.
- 1:10:54Speaker 4: Keen is in set. Dream calls there.
- 1:10:56Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's quite a bit of exhaust where you
- 1:10:59Speaker 5: then get to really rub some sand in their eyes.
- 1:11:01Speaker 5: And that's a big fish.
- 1:11:03Speaker 4: And there is something about just playing some of those
- 1:11:07Speaker 4: dead knucklers... Things that you don't care about in order
- 1:11:11Speaker 4: to get another card.
- 1:11:13Speaker 5: Well, we got three fives and a four, so I
- 1:11:15Speaker 5: think we're okay.
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: Doing all right.
- 1:11:16Speaker 5: And we can talk about another one of these cards
- 1:11:18Speaker 5: where sometimes you just don't care.
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: Siphon Maw. AKA Ham Suction. It's what?
- 1:11:27Speaker 5: Ham Suction?
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: Ham Suction. That's what the Vietnamese translation of this is.
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: Ham Suction. Okay. I'm like, I'm not seeing any ham
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: suction in this picture. Four power vehicle. Discard the top
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: card of a player's deck for each bonus icon on
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: the discarded card. Your opponent loses one.
- 1:11:49Speaker 5: That's actually not a terrible reap effect, but it's sure
- 1:11:51Speaker 5: not trustworthy. If this is your plan.
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: If I'm going up against any set besides DM, this
- 1:11:59Speaker 2: could be devastating.
- 1:12:03Speaker 5: I mean, DM has plenty of pips.
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: It's got plenty of pips, but man.
- 1:12:07Speaker 5: Plenty of bonus icons. Because even power icons are bonus icons.
- 1:12:11Speaker 5: I still have never had the three of these that
- 1:12:15Speaker 5: I end up with in a deck be meaningful, though.
- 1:12:17Speaker 5: So this card is.
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: This is also true.
- 1:12:21Speaker 5: Like, I just don't know where it.
- 1:12:25Speaker 3: So I originally had those at a two, but I
- 1:12:29Speaker 3: wonder if it should be a three, because I've definitely
- 1:12:31Speaker 3: felt like This has had an impact over other cards,
- 1:12:37Speaker 3: and now I'm happy to see this over a lot
- 1:12:40Speaker 3: of the other Unfathomable cards.
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: Now, I might be wrong, too, and here's been my
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: experience with Unfathomable on this set. I don't find myself
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: coming back much to them to then use them. Like,
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: they get out of my hand, and then I might
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: use them as that utility house, because a lot of
- 1:13:02Speaker 2: them stick around.
- 1:13:03Speaker 5: This is another non-priest. Oh, you know, your Leelani's work
- 1:13:07Speaker 5: well with Psychomus.
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: You can do it again, yes.
- 1:13:09Speaker 5: I agree with what you're saying, because a lot of
- 1:13:12Speaker 5: the time, the collection of creatures you are playing with
- 1:13:17Speaker 5: include a kinu or two, some knucklers, you know, your hemogryph.
- 1:13:23Speaker 2: So there's no reason to come back to the house
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: to use it.
- 1:13:24Speaker 5: They're just reaping for nothing, so yeah, you're not reaping
- 1:13:27Speaker 5: with no bonus.
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird.
- 1:13:30Speaker 5: I'm with you. There's a lot of time, which is
- 1:13:32Speaker 5: also why we were saying you end up just sand-denying
- 1:13:34Speaker 5: your own fish, because you're like, I don't really care
- 1:13:36Speaker 5: if these are on the board after I've played them. Which,
- 1:13:39Speaker 5: when you're only good creature is Siphon Maw, you're never
- 1:13:42Speaker 5: going to come back for it.
- 1:13:43Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: Right. I agree.
- 1:13:48Speaker 5: I'm in the same boat. I have yet to have
- 1:13:51Speaker 5: value with Siphon Maw. I have had Leelani value. But
- 1:13:56Speaker 5: I can understand how it combines with some other creatures
- 1:14:00Speaker 5: to be okay because it is on board creature or
- 1:14:04Speaker 5: on board amber control which means you can actually stay
- 1:14:07Speaker 5: in the house potentially which lets me say it could
- 1:14:12Speaker 5: be a 3 instead of a 2 that's where I
- 1:14:14Speaker 5: get it in my 2 plus world where are you
- 1:14:18Speaker 5: at Ewok.
- 1:14:20Speaker 4: For siphon maul I have it as I think it
- 1:14:23Speaker 4: is between a 2 and a 3 but I have
- 1:14:24Speaker 4: it at a 2 I can't go.
- 1:14:26Speaker 5: To a 3 fair enough The community has a 2.5.
- 1:14:31Speaker 5: I think the community....
- 1:14:35Speaker 4: But I think that's where the community... I think that's appropriate.
- 1:14:38Speaker 4: I just can't go to the 3 yet. Splat.
- 1:14:42Speaker 2: Slap, dash, enamel. I guess I'm leaving it at a
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: 2 for the moment. Because I'm not changing it. Slap, dash,
- 1:14:51Speaker 2: enamel is an artifact item. At the start of your turn,
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: destroy each card with a corrosion counter on it. action,
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: put a corrosion counter on a card in play. This
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: is a slightly better wretched doll.
- 1:15:07Speaker 5: No?
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: This is way better. A thousand times better?
- 1:15:11Speaker 4: Why?
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: Because you can choose any card? Because you don't need
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: to activate it twice to kill something, and you can
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: kill artifacts. You do need to activate it twice. No,
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: you activate it once, it marks it, and then it's
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: just a thing. You don't have to come back, it
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: just starts in your turn. Fine. Fine, fine, fine.
- 1:15:28Speaker 5: And it's also start of turn, which means it happens before...
- 1:15:31Speaker 5: Forge a key step.
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: I guess I can destroy that universe and lock down
- 1:15:37Speaker 2: or whatever it is. Plus three key thing.
- 1:15:41Speaker 5: This is a better card, but it is still.
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: Slow.
- 1:15:45Speaker 4: Slow.
- 1:15:45Speaker 5: Unbearably slow. It is traditional artifact slow.
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: So if Wretched Doll was a zero, this is a one?
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: This is a four.
- 1:15:54Speaker 5: No, this is still a three or a four, yeah.
- 1:15:56Speaker 2: Three or a four? This is a four. I like
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: this a lot.
- 1:15:58Speaker 5: This this and half the decks you open this in.
- 1:16:02Speaker 5: This is the only hard are you have this true?
- 1:16:07Speaker 2: And just keeps going every time. Oh, right.
- 1:16:12Speaker 3: If they got awarded, you don't have to activate it.
- 1:16:15Speaker 3: It'll it'll take an extra turn, but it'll eventually kill it.
- 1:16:18Speaker 3: It's like there it it it does stuff.
- 1:16:23Speaker 5: It is. It's again kind of that downside we were
- 1:16:26Speaker 5: talking about with some of the others. Don't come back
- 1:16:28Speaker 5: to the house that often to use the card. But
- 1:16:31Speaker 5: it's pretty good. Okay.
- 1:16:34Speaker 3: I mean, if you're split between houses, I would pick
- 1:16:37Speaker 3: Unfath maybe because I can use this again.
- 1:16:40Speaker 5: Because it's good removal.
- 1:16:43Speaker 4: Alright.
- 1:16:47Speaker 2: Okay, I'll go with whatever you guys pick. You know
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: I hate artifacts to begin with, so Upgrades? Oh, we're
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: getting there. Let's score this one first.
- 1:16:59Speaker 4: Slapdash I had it as a four.
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: I could be talked into a three because of how
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: slow it is, but I had it as a four.
- 1:17:08Speaker 5: Four as it is.
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: Star Patch. I did not know this card existed, nor
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: have I think I ever seen it. You get a
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: Pippa member every time you play it, and house enhanced
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: by two. This creature gains at the start of your
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: turn if this creature is exhausted. Purge another creature that
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: shares a house with it. This could be cool and
- 1:17:34Speaker 2: also all the way horrible.
- 1:17:38Speaker 5: Sharing houses is an interesting thing with this.
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: You have to share a house. No.
- 1:17:47Speaker 5: But it is double house enhance. I guess I don't
- 1:17:50Speaker 5: know if I've ever actually played with this.
- 1:17:52Speaker 2: I play this.
- 1:17:53Speaker 5: I didn't know this card existed until this... I learned
- 1:17:56Speaker 5: this card was a real card printed, like, today.
- 1:18:01Speaker 4: So this... Go ahead, Dre.
- 1:18:03Speaker 5: If you share a house, you can play it on
- 1:18:05Speaker 5: your own. Yeah, but you have to put it on
- 1:18:08Speaker 5: an intrepid boy. Otherwise, it never does anything.
- 1:18:12Speaker 2: Yeah. Or you can play it on theirs, and then
- 1:18:14Speaker 2: they have to pop stuff.
- 1:18:16Speaker 4: You can go.
- 1:18:18Speaker 5: What it kind of works in that house, you put
- 1:18:19Speaker 5: it on theirs and then you exhaust their creature, so
- 1:18:22Speaker 5: it is exhausted at.
- 1:18:22Speaker 2: The beginning of their turn.
- 1:18:23Speaker 5: They have to kill in theory another friendly creature because
- 1:18:26Speaker 5: you're choosing.
- 1:18:28Speaker 2: This works great on snapper dens. For purging your own dinosaurs?
- 1:18:35Speaker 5: Your own dragosaurs?
- 1:18:37Speaker 2: Who's playing dragons in 2026?
- 1:18:40Speaker 5: Well, I mean, that's... So you put this on their
- 1:18:42Speaker 5: snapper den, yep.
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: And now they gotta kill all their dragons.
- 1:18:45Speaker 5: I mean, I think this is.
- 1:18:47Speaker 2: And maybe I have that dumb dragon. It's the two
- 1:18:49Speaker 2: house enhancers.
- 1:18:50Speaker 5: Which leaves it in the four.
- 1:18:53Speaker 2: Yep, it's a four. Maybe it's gotta kill that dumb
- 1:18:59Speaker 2: dragon that goes on my side of the board that
- 1:19:01Speaker 2: deals one damage to each of my creatures after an
- 1:19:04Speaker 2: action's done. Fucking, I hate that card so much. I
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: hate that card so much.
- 1:19:10Speaker 4: Notice that it's not destroy. It is purge.
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: Get gone. Alright, last card. Rounding out the fish. Tsunami.
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: One pip of ember every time you play it. Deal
- 1:19:26Speaker 2: four damage to each ready creature.
- 1:19:30Speaker 5: Solid card. You like to see these?
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: Mostly because C is really lacking in DM, and so
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: That's where the Hydrogen, I think, actually goes up. The
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: Hydrogen goes up because of what it can have as
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: an impact. I think that looking here, Tsunami plays very,
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: very well. You also get a chance to determine the
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: timing of it. So if you're playing creatures in Unfathomable, one,
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: you can play it first, or you can go ahead
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: and just play them They're exhausted, so it doesn't get
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: the damage.
- 1:20:11Speaker 5: Yeah, but you can even use your own exhaust effects
- 1:20:15Speaker 5: on some of your cards to.
- 1:20:16Speaker 4: Correct to exhaust your own card. Yes.
- 1:20:19Speaker 2: Oh, man, I got an exhaust on an enrage my guy.
- 1:20:24Speaker 4: That may not be the best choice, but doing it.
- 1:20:26Speaker 2: Got it.
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it can be a trap, though, because
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: of that amber pip.
- 1:20:32Speaker 4: I've seen people play it and you got to be careful.
- 1:20:35Speaker 4: And kill too many of your own.
- 1:20:38Speaker 5: I do see that as being part of that ideal
- 1:20:42Speaker 5: Leilani 30 power guy siphon maw kind of deck.
- 1:20:52Speaker 2: Sure.
- 1:20:52Speaker 5: Then the zombies are good because then you're going back
- 1:20:55Speaker 5: into fish and you exhaust all your things and you
- 1:20:58Speaker 5: kill all of their stuff so they can't answer you
- 1:21:00Speaker 5: and you just get.
- 1:21:00Speaker 2: To Man, this fish pod that you guys keep talking
- 1:21:04Speaker 2: about is awesome. Why don't I ever see it in
- 1:21:07Speaker 2: the set?
- 1:21:08Speaker 5: Because you don't open DM decks.
- 1:21:12Speaker 2: I got a lot still. I can't. I am more
- 1:21:16Speaker 2: than halfway through.
- 1:21:17Speaker 3: I actually opened today when I went to the store.
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: I actually opened some pretty solid.
- 1:21:28Speaker 5: Now we got enough power through our existing cards.
- 1:21:31Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to go.
- 1:21:34Speaker 5: Yeah, that's where I had it.
- 1:21:36Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:21:37Speaker 5: All right.
- 1:21:38Speaker 4: I will say not a good card by any mean,
- 1:21:40Speaker 4: but I'm still a little scarred from Tuesday with my
- 1:21:43Speaker 4: really crummy 61 says DM deck. I played weak link
- 1:21:48Speaker 4: and that is this creature gains. It's an upgrade. While
- 1:21:51Speaker 4: this creature is exhausted, your keys cost plus six. And
- 1:21:54Speaker 4: as a result. That is why the game with Perfect
- 1:21:58Speaker 4: went way, way, way so long. Because I played it
- 1:22:02Speaker 4: on his creature.
- 1:22:03Speaker 2: That's the reason.
- 1:22:04Speaker 1: And he old switcherooed and then had Figgy Rod and
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: just kept taxing me.
- 1:22:09Speaker 4: And I could not kill it because I had no
- 1:22:11Speaker 4: more C. It was hysterical.
- 1:22:13Speaker 2: It was so bad. So bad.
- 1:22:15Speaker 3: It can actually be impactful in DM where it never
- 1:22:19Speaker 3: mattered before.
- 1:22:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:22:22Speaker 4: But all right. What cards actually stood out to you guys?
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: Still not good, though.
- 1:22:25Speaker 4: No, no, no.
- 1:22:26Speaker 2: Well, I mean.
- 1:22:27Speaker 5: Sybil Wymer is in the set. That works well with the.
- 1:22:29Speaker 2: Exhausting lots of guys. Sybil always good. Thing from the
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: Deep is back. Illusions of Grandeur is back. Lateral Shift
- 1:22:38Speaker 2: is a card now. Yeah.
- 1:22:40Speaker 5: Abyssal Sight and Illusions of Grandeur.
- 1:22:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:22:43Speaker 4: Abyssal Sight bubbles to bounce. Illusions and.
- 1:22:47Speaker 5: Fish didn't get any cool control, though. They just have
- 1:22:51Speaker 5: exhaust control, right? They didn't get any of their I mean,
- 1:22:55Speaker 5: the closest thing they got was solutions.
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: I mean, open the seal is back with thing. I
- 1:23:00Speaker 2: love open the seal. Love that cards.
- 1:23:02Speaker 4: I think, I think that, uh, catch and release in
- 1:23:06Speaker 4: this set is so good.
- 1:23:07Speaker 5: Deep priest. I do like.
- 1:23:12Speaker 2: Deep peace. Glebby, even though he's a rare.
- 1:23:13Speaker 5: Really?
- 1:23:14Speaker 2: He's pretty fun. If you got a lot of Aquans,
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: if you get a lot of Beasts, then he's just
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: another card. But if a lot of your other creatures
- 1:23:27Speaker 2: are Aquans, you know, he becomes okay.
- 1:23:30Speaker 5: Yeah, but wouldn't you rather just have Kinu so you
- 1:23:32Speaker 5: don't need to combo to.
- 1:23:33Speaker 2: Make it happen? I could. You're right. Yeah, Kinu is better.
- 1:23:36Speaker 2: But I like him, too, because he's like Cthulhu dude
- 1:23:39Speaker 2: sitting on his throne.
- 1:23:40Speaker 5: I mean, I'll take Flash Freeze over Deep Priest most days.
- 1:23:47Speaker 2: Basically the same thing.
- 1:23:47Speaker 5: You have figgy rods on set, and then, like we said,
- 1:23:52Speaker 5: the outpost is on set, so it has... There is
- 1:23:54Speaker 5: a lot of exhaust in Unfathomable. When you sit down
- 1:23:58Speaker 5: against a DM on Unfathomable, you just basically assume you
- 1:24:01Speaker 5: don't get to use your creatures very often. Is there
- 1:24:03Speaker 5: going to be exhaust on the outpost? Ice Finn is there.
- 1:24:06Speaker 5: Choose a house, exhaust each creature of that house. There
- 1:24:08Speaker 5: you go. A ton more. Exhausting.
- 1:24:15Speaker 4: I like Ice Finn with Leilani.
- 1:24:17Speaker 5: I have not actually... I don't think I've opened a
- 1:24:20Speaker 5: lateral shift deck yet.
- 1:24:22Speaker 2: I have not.
- 1:24:23Speaker 5: I wonder if that's still being printed at. Stupid rarity.
- 1:24:26Speaker 2: It would. I'm not opening a lot of DM because
- 1:24:31Speaker 2: I just cannot... I can't bring myself to deal with
- 1:24:36Speaker 2: that pain. It's just... It's a fine field experience. It
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: is mentally... I don't know if you're right on that.
- 1:24:50Speaker 5: Wookiee is like, every turn I want to play four
- 1:24:52Speaker 5: cards with Amber Pips and not have to read their
- 1:24:54Speaker 5: effects because it doesn't matter.
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: That's right.
- 1:24:57Speaker 5: Or steal cards. The only time he wants to read
- 1:25:00Speaker 5: it is if he's stealing.
- 1:25:03Speaker 2: DM is just unimaginative.
- 1:25:09Speaker 5: It's weak.
- 1:25:11Speaker 2: Weak.
- 1:25:13Speaker 5: I don't know. Still having fun. I still win games.
- 1:25:15Speaker 5: You know what? It's been beating all the PV decks
- 1:25:18Speaker 5: that have been open lately. At least at our school.
- 1:25:21Speaker 5: I don't know why.
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: How much PV do you guys still have?
- 1:25:26Speaker 5: Zero. Well, Sydney has a bunch. Well, I just finished.
- 1:25:33Speaker 5: I have one foil deck left.
- 1:25:38Speaker 4: SDM.
- 1:25:39Speaker 5: Alright.
- 1:25:42Speaker 2: I really feel like DM is the homelands of Key
- 1:25:46Speaker 2: Forge right now.
- 1:25:47Speaker 5: No, it's not that bad.
- 1:25:49Speaker 2: It's not homelands bad? Is it.
- 1:25:53Speaker 2: Visions bad?
- 1:25:54Speaker 5: No, none of us played enough Magic to care.
- 1:26:00Speaker 2: Fine. Visions was right in the era that I played. Yeah,
- 1:26:05Speaker 2: I mean, there's a couple of cards, but nothing crazy.
- 1:26:09Speaker 5: All right.
- 1:26:10Speaker 2: Well, that's going to do it for us tonight. I
- 1:26:12Speaker 2: am exhausted. I'm literally at my brink. I can't keep going.
- 1:26:16Speaker 5: Are you stunned and enraged?
- 1:26:18Speaker 2: I am stunned twice. That's not possible.
- 1:26:23Speaker 5: Wow.
- 1:26:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I am super tired. I do need some CPs.
- 1:26:29Speaker 2: But you'll probably be hearing this right before Nashville as
- 1:26:33Speaker 2: it goes live. Maybe you're listening to it on your
- 1:26:35Speaker 2: way to Nashville. We look forward to seeing everybody there,
- 1:26:39Speaker 2: and we will see you all next week. Happy Forging, everyone.
- 1:26:45Speaker 4: May the Forge be with you.