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JAMES LEGATE | VOICES FROM BEHIND THE WALL OF TCJ !!!!! · DA CREW Podcast

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  Oh, nursing nurses. Oh things ain't what says where has it? All
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  the blue from skys but boys from the north to something well, persons,
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  All things ain't what they used to know. Hey, hey, hey,
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  y'all, come on in, come on in, Come on in, come
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  on in, and share this with someone in your circle of if once,
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  if you would, y'all, this is the queen. This is the Queen,
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  and I am coming to you voices from behind the walls of t d
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  c J. Not t c J. Now I left the d Y out.
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  It's t d c J, the Texas Department of Criminal Justice, y'all.
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  So, y'all, come on in, come on in, come on
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  in, come on in. Y'all know, Mondays, it's that time.
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  It's that time. It's that time. I'm gonna share until I can't share
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  no more. Y'all know. I am trying to expose some of the things
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  that are happening inside of TDCJ, some of the corruption that's been taking place
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  for now almost five decades. Y'all, it's time for it to stop.
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  We have individuals that have been incarcerated, that are behind prison rash, wrongfully
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  incarcerated, yet they've been incarcerated for decades, y'all, and it's time for
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  these people to get justice. They should not have to serve forty to fifty
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  years before they get justice. These people that put them behind prison rals corruptly
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  need to be behind prison walls and self y'all. It's time for us to
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  bring them, bring them to a close set. Come on in. I
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  want you to come on in room with me. I'm about to give you
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  the link so you can come on in. Mister Legate. For those that
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  don't know who you are, briefly share with them who you are before we
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  jump into conversation. And you know, if you need if you have to
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  call back, you can call back. This hour is dedicated to well,
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  these two hours is dedicated to bring in awareness to those that are incarcerated within
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  TDC J and I want you to share really quick, who are you and
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  how did you get there? My name is well, my name is James
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  Legates. Then ninety nine I was convicted for a murder I didn't even do
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  for nineteen ninety eight murder of a man by the name of the comments.
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  But they also dunk Bingam because of the political strategy and in the political game.
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  You know, in other words, he had a lot of uh influences
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  with some of these ascongressmens, judge lawyers. You maybe he understanded, but
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  anyway, Uh, I may nine years for that's out there here for more
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  on twenty six years. But it's murder and I'm still fighting. But about
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  from living the the conditions of this this world that that uh that I was
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  forced to live in. But really to me, it's really changed a lot.
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  It's changed draftically from uh. I mean, the plications are really really
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  really poor. You know. We lack of staff is one of the greatest
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  pibles here that keeps us from uh participating in certain activities like in the crafts
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  ofference and something and there's just awousand and one now I can't even get in
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  there because they say it's sort of sad. But he had to still have
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  a few people in there who are privileged to be in there. And uh,
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  you know, that's that's my lively way of being rehabilitating a lot of
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  stuff that people can learn how to do, like we have do jewelry.
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  I've been doing it for years and uh that was that's the trade. But
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  that's what brings me here. And I've been on this unit mcconne unit for
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  more than twelve years, and I've been being one. The major factor in
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  this unit is the water. The water is the water is commendously bad.
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  I mean, I've already had eight Floyd's wife, I've already complained with the
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  Texas Environmental Quality of People and Dave already gave the Marror Fegal water lang,
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  which is the Merror water. They've already given them a face signed because they
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  found nine violations. We're first to drink the water. I mean, it's
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  the necessity of life. So I mean we can't acquire on water because if
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  we did, we're only able to buy twenty four bottles anyway, and to
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  recommend it the least eight bottles a day, so you figure that wor not,
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  this only gonna be good for three days. But anyway, that's that's
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  what I'm here for. And I've seen so much going on, especially with
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  parole systems too. I mean, the recidivism rate is crazy. I've seen
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  people leave them come and leave income and leaving come and the majority of them,
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  well, what can I say? They just can't make it out there?
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  For one are the reasons that they have. But other than dark you
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  know, it's it's crazy. I think Texas needs to really rechange or the
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  CDCJ, I mean the pole system and GDCJ has to actually try to give
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  them more real dirritation program because that's pass a lot in this place that we're
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  out because if you don't want to self rehabilitate yourself, nobody else is going
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  to give it to you. It's a self planned rehabilitation that they're trying to
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  pass upon every inmate here and maybe one day it might succeed, But until
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  right now, all you do is have people is just trying to take programs
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  because they're trying to fulfill an it P, which is the inmate's treatment program
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  implemented for years, but they're just going to finally implement I mean they we're
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  pushing it forward. And other than that, you know, this is why
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  I'm here, Angela, and I thank you. I thank you so much
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  for everything that you do and everything you're trying to put out there, all
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  your awareness you're trying to bring to everybody that out there they don't understand or
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  don't know anything about the prison system, because the way I see it now
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  is everybody only knows what they're told. They don't know from the inside,
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  you know, and then when you're trying to explain to them what's really going
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  on from the insight, it's like they're kind of surprised, you know,
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  Like in other words, we've already talked about this want to where like in
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  the pro system, for instance, they may let go of a knucklehe In
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  other ways, people who constantly get in trouble going back and forth to are
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  higher customer levels. Then the regular GP or offenders that are trying to do
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  their time in a positive way, they rather let them go just so they
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  can show the public that will release you people, but they keep coming back.
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  It's caused the receiversm right where versus if you look at the people who
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  do in their time in a positive way, they're more like, no,
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  you're manipulating the system. But in truth, they just work these people because
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  you're now commodities. They make money for the state of Texas. Well,
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  let's talk about money. Let's let's let's let's break some of these things down
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  and and and go into these things so that people can truly get an understanding
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  and get a grasp of exactly what we're talking about. Because a lot of
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  people will say that they don't know that this is going on, that how
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  this is going on, that this can't be happening because no way the government
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  is doing this, and that that this is a part of the process.
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  You know, for years we have been taught to trust the judicial system,
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  to trust the process, that that that it works, and now we're finding
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  out that it does not. If if you do not have money or you
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  do not have power, it does not work for you. And you can
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  abide by all the laws that they have put in place, but it does
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  not work for you. We're gonna talk about We're gonna we want to talk
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  about the water. We we we we talked about we We've had this conversation.
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  You and I've had this conversation a couple of individuals within TDCJ, not
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  just on your unit. There are a couple of other units that have issues.
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  We talk about the female unit. They're constantly having issues and then on
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  top of them having their their their extra cycles and different things, and it's
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  double what y'all go through. On the women's union. I've heard individuals telling
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  me about a parasite that they have had. You said that you find a
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  complaint. There are fifty nine different violations that were found. They were fine.
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  And you're not the first person that have told me that they see administration
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  and individuals bringing cases and cases of water and they're giving it to the officers.
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  Yet they're not giving you guys no water. And then they even have
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  notices. I've had individuals tell me that there's notices placed around different areas of
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  TDCJ telling those that are visiting, do not drink the water, do not
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  come in contact a lot of water to come in contact with their skin.
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  So if that is the case for people in the public, then what why
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  is that not the case for you guys? Why are they allowing you guys
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  to drink the water? No, that's an issue for me. That that
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  is a true issue for me. And you talk about this parasite or this
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  bacteria, Please explain to me what exactly happened to you in any other cases
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  that you may know about that has has taken place within tdc J. All
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  right, Well, like I said, with the water, I wonder contacting
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  or what they call it, Well, we call it eight calori. I
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  can't really say the actual name, but I know if people type in hate
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  flory, it's gonna come out. It's gonna show that there's some kind of
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  bacterial in the water that can cause a person. Uh well, the symptoms
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  are that you feel very very mignoxious to you, you start getting diarrhea.
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  You you just start getting feeling real bad. And then by the time you
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  go you're gotta take a certain amount of antibiotics and they're giving you that.
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  There's no pills to try to prove the summat because of the way it makes
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  you feel. It's really a real bad but an experience, you know.
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  Uh they said, I've caught it twice. I know people who are starting
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  on there. I know another guys who's got a kidney infection. They said
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  that he's not gonna have you know, give me uh try in plant right
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  and uh he uh he came up from prole. I can't I think it's
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  Robert Dennis. I'm gonna drap him. The string question with Robert anyway,
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  he uh, he wound up coming up for parole and he denied him.
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  But then when he followed the lawsuit on him, you know the I guest
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  they are they made a compromise with him, said, well, you know
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  what, watch out the lawsuit and we'll go ahead and give them because you
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  know he's gone. Uh. I also, I just I just learned today
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  my nephew, you know who, he's also here. Uh has been taking
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  a lot of appills for Kief. He's users. They're trying to trying to
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  say that he might be giving him some bed you means, and he also
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  because of the government, but uh, they don't. He's alway found on
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  it showing up this. You can't even give me the same amount of waters
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  that I need because yeah, I was to brive twenty four motters and the
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  latter himself about one. Thank you for joining me. That is a post
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  here on the case. She's also a host that fights for injustice. She
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  does a lot in the state of Colorado and bringing awareness. So she's joining
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  me today. They because we're trying to really bring some awareness to the different
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  things that's happening across the US. You know, even though we're focused on
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  different areas, we're showing people that it's not just happening in the areas that
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  we're focused on. It's happening in other places, and the same things are
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  happening because the same some of the same things that are happening to you guys
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  in the state of Texas. It's happening in the in Denver, Colorado.
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  You know, they don't even have tablets. They don't even have tablets,
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  and they get they they can't even if these people feel like they are on
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  a three way call, they will restrict their calls, like they can't come
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  on and have a conversation with you, with me like you're doing right now,
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  because it will be an issue. It will be an issue with them.
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  They will tell them that they're in violation. They got no sent out
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  to them, when that is a true violation of their First Amendment, you
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  know, and they are It's like they're hindering them from being able to talk
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  about their case. And then they're hindering them from being able to allow people
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  to know what's going on on the inside, as well as keeping them a
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  breadthath on what's going on on the outside because you being able to communicate with
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  me and have these conversations and us being able to share this and allow people
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  to see, Hey, this is not coming from Angela. This is actually
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  coming from an inmate that's on the inside. And you know, I I'm
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  telling you every week, I really want to start having this conversation with you
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  where we could just break down different things that's happening because I did a lot
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  from you. When I have these conversations, like I can get an idea
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  of what they're feeding y'all because they're telling us on the website that they're they're
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  feeding y'all one thing. But then when I hear from other inmates, like
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  I got an inmate that send me a me and you every single week of
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  what they've had, and it's always a Johnny's a Johnny dead, A Johnny
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  is a Johnny dead. I mean it's it's never hot meals. And then
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  when it is hot meals, it's nothing that go together. Like I'm like,
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  would you serve this to to your family? Would you serve this to
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  your mom? Would you serve this to your kids? This is this is
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  what I'm trying to get people to understand. I'm not asking for for for
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  cavion and and steak and potatoes and and things of that that I'm just asking
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  for nutritious, wholesome meals that that are for grown men to get. They
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  being down like your keys kids, they get your two pancakes stapping some peanut
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  butter and and and some syrup on it, and and and calling it a
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  sandwich. And then they put they putting souper, soup, and and and
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  and and slapping it and and and they calling it whatever they want to call
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  it, and they want to call it a meal, and that's not a
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  meal. Just like I take issue with having to call them and get on
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  them, and then they get mad because I call. I say, you
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  got maggots, and y'all feeding the maggots, and they want to correct me
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  and say it was larva larva. Regardless of what it is, what you
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  want to name it, whatever the species is, it should not be consumed
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  by humans. It should not be in food to be consumed by humans.
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  But y'all to serve that. And then on top of that, a warden
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  it come on the unit, served it to his his his inmates. A
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  warden was serving food. And then this didn't happen that they caught it before
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  it got out. When I got bookoos of phone calls and emails from you
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  guys, not just your unit, not just calmly unit, but it was
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  three or four other units. And then they acting like it didn't happen.
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  It was an issue, and it had to been in whatever they got the
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  wherever they got the beings from, and they were serving this and they're constantly
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  doing this. So could you please tell us on a day to day basis,
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  what what what? On a week the week? What is y'all men?
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  You like? So what last week? What did y'all last week gonna
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  be? It's basically Johnny's. We had Johnny's all weekend except Saturday. We
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  had please tell us that, don't okay, Johnny is the sandwich, and
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  uh, it's one. You're gonna get one peanut butter and jelly sandwich and
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  the other one is basically, uh soybean meat like brown beef. But basically
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  all you get every day, every day every Johnny, you're gonna have basically
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  Hamburg and we Hamberg and we Hamburg and you have if they wanted. It
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  seems like they got a whole barrel that they made for ahead and they just
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  did so much out and and it's parted their important their sandwiches and it comes
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  into like ice coats. Uh, if they wanted to look dressing up a
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  little bit, it seems like they throw a little bit of a tomato sauce
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  on and just mixing it together and then just throw it on on a piece
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  of two bricks and you're a lucky if you even get a full. I
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  mean sometimes it looks like they just get a spoon and just put it on
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  there and that's it and just go go, go go. Uh. And
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  it's really there's really no nutritions in it. There's no value in it.
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  And when we do go to chip, it's basically, do not get in
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  as much vegetable as as you shouldn't be. I pre get some vegetables and
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  the main port because it's more nutritions. Unless the cooks over cooked in these
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  states, they are they cook on the nutrients tonerment. Maybe. So those
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  those trucks of donated food that's coming in from San Antonio food but they had
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  steaks and potatoes and pizza and and and I think it was ice cream and
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  some steave cake and you know, different stuff that y'all normally don't have in
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  the prison system. Well what happened to all of that? Well, what
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  happened to all of that? Because I got a bunch of calls about that.
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  I got a bunch of calls about that, and and and and the
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  letter that I received from the unbusstman does not match the what was told to
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  me by the warehouse manager. Because see, people don't know. You can't
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  just tell Angela anything. Baby, you can't just tell me anything, because
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  Angela gonna go and she gonna check, she gonna she gonna go, and
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  she gonna call for herself, and she gonna find out for herself. And
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  if she got to go over some heads, she gonna go over some head
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  and she she might piss some people off on the journey. But that's that's
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  what happened. So the unbustman got upset. He he sent somebody out,
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  but he said he didn't send nobody out because I got I send out an
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  email. Everybody that know me know now that whenever I send out emails,
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  I send emails out to everybody that's on my mail then list, so everybody
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  that's connected to the mailing list, I send it out. So it may
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  be legislators, it may be the governor, it may be the the executive
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  director of the tdc J, it may be the parole it may be five
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  or six news stations, whoever on that list for that day, they don't
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  get it. And I copied I copied all of my emails, So can't
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  nobody saying, oh, no, I didn't get that, because you know
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  what, I can go to any one of my emails and pull it up
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  and it's gonna show me a list of everybody that I emailed it to,
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  so they can't say they didn't know. So I keep everybody in the loop.
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  All these these suicides that's been happening. People been cutting off their penises,
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  people been burning How how can how can somebody melt a plexiglass plate that's
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  supposed to protect an officer from being peed on a spit on? How How
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  can an inmate burn it up without nobody saying there? Can you please tell
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  me? How can melt that without nobody seeing that? That means somebody ain't
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  patrolling. That means somebody ain't watching this person that's supposed to be on the
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  twenty four hour watch. Yeah, you know, you'll be surprised with the
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  technique makes have. They have a way of making things like little sodder irons
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  or something like this that can actually heat up pretty hard, And if you're
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  not making your rounds, you can have somebody plug it into a coffee park
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  or she's running through a cycle. And if it's a boiler where it's gonna
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  continue to run anyway, and you can just out there and it's gonna make
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  a hope. It's just gonna keep going and keep going and keep going.
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  There's so many ways that you can do things, but unier, it's not
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  gonna happen unless I left the person, like I said, the shorter step,
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  you're not getting the bumper or security rounds like they're supposed to do.
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  Then the person might be able to make a little prior, you know,
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  whish you can make it with grease, You can make it with anything you
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  want and just write it and let it ship there. And of course couldn't
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  eventually learn, but that has to take some time. I mean that just
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  ain't gonna happen, and know thirty minutes, they ain't gonna happen just and
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  ain't know thirty minutes. So that means somebody ain't making rounds of course,
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  how okay, So tell me this too, Tell me this too. How
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  is it that inmates can move bodies and nobody see it on cameras? So
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  if the do do y'all have working cameras or do y'all not have working cameras,
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  because a lot of the stuff that I'll be asking these people about,
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  they can go to the cameras and look at it, but they'll say they
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  don't have sufficient evidence. They'll say not enough evidence, not a sufficient evidence,
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  or whatever whatever whatever. So do y'all not have cameras? Yes?
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  Yes, In fact, they spend millions on the new cameras. They're supposed
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  to see beginning on the floor at a certain angle or a certain certain length.
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  Uh, they're supposed to be certain that they can see everything like in
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  other words, like maybe not that camera could look directly into my book.
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  They can see everything right there. So how is it then, how can
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  I need this answer? How is it that they didn't see that body that
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  was moved, that that guy committed that that that that that guy overdose the
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  people that he was smoking drugs with, moved his body and and moved it
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  out of the room, and nobody seen it. I heard no reports from
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  nobody I asked about it. I heard from I did not hear from the
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  the Unbusstment. I did not hear from the office of in turn of what
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  is it inspect the General. I did not hear from him. I did
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  not hear from the executive director. It's just like nobody, nobody said nothing,
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  but it has to be on camera. Just like, how do a
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  body have to be be dead or be before em T will not remove it?
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  Because I've also had a case where an EMT would not remove the body
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  because it said it had been there too long? So how how long was
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  too long? And who not doing their job? Because somebody not doing their
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  job. I bid complaints all the time that there's one person in the picket,
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  that there's nobody on the floor, there's one person in the picket that
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  there's example, go ahead, call me back, call me back, go
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  ahead, call me back. So thank you for joining to me, Like,
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  people need to hear a lot of this stuff that it's taking place,
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  because people don't they they hear it from us. They act like it's foreign.
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  They act like this is not happening, and they think that these peopleple
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  are making this stuff up or their line and we post about it, we
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  talk about it, and it's like people just brush it under the rug.
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  Well, I constantly talk to people and people are telling me this is what
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  happened to me, this this, this is this is what they're doing.
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  This is what this is what happened? Like we we didn't even get to
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  the parole And and how these people are behind on parole? How are you
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  behind on letting people go? How are you behind letting these folk get out?
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  I don't care if they if man, if you short staff, you
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  short. If you are short staff, that means you should be you should
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  be trying to get people out of there so that they can cut down on
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  the overcrowdedness. So that's in line to get parole. Why are you still
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  holding them? I got people that that got f one in in December and
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  in November. They mean they're supposed to have been released within thirty to forty
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  Why are they still in prison? Why do these people these people being recorded
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  and it's subject in that they missed, but they still be setting these people
• 26:52
  free? Like really, And you talk about James O. Gate. This
• 26:56
  man is serving ninety nine years for a crime that he did not commit.
• 27:03
  You talk about we talk about okay, where is the gun? Where is
• 27:10
  the gun? Where is this gun that y'all say he used to commit this
• 27:15
  crime? Right? I would let me. I wanted to give them a
• 27:23
  little insight. What's going on in in Denver? It was a an inmate.
• 27:33
  I don't actually know his name, but it was told to me on
• 27:36
  Sunday that he made roll and he was in a wheelchair. He's in his
• 27:42
  he was in his sixties, and because his sister didn't have a wheelchair ramp
• 27:51
  or accessible things for him at her at her house and she wasn't able to
• 27:57
  get it, they held him there. They wouldn't parole him even though he
• 28:03
  made parole. So two weeks ago he passed in prison and he was paroled.
• 28:11
  He just he just hiss, just didn't have the the necessary things she
• 28:18
  needed at his house. Here also these people last week and then they making
• 28:26
  them do all this time, and then you're making it hard for him.
• 28:32
  Like this man been fighting his case since he'd been fighting his case for twenty
• 28:36
  six years. He's no. They got a documentary out on his case,
• 28:41
  and if you look at the documentary, you will see that this man did
• 28:45
  not do it. You'll see that this man is innocent. The Nose Station
• 28:48
  did a documentary on this case and you'll see. I mean it was so
• 28:53
  it's so many holes in the case, so many holes in the case,
• 28:59
  but they were whole people like this in prison and then this man the whole
• 29:03
  time he's been in prison trying to fight to get himself out and help trying
• 29:07
  to get other people out. It's crazy. And then they they and then
• 29:14
  they have to suffer through this. This may have to go through sickness,
• 29:18
  not even just them having to endure what they're doing behind prison while just imagine
• 29:22
  what their families are in doing that the the time that they're losing with their
• 29:29
  family and their loved ones. And they ain't doing it to just a few
• 29:33
  people. They doing it to thousands and thousands of us of us us US
• 29:41
  put some color to our skins. If you ain't all the way, if
• 29:48
  you ain't all the way with that privilege, they don't care if you got
• 29:52
  an inch. If they think you might have an inch of in them,
• 29:59
  they won't you too. I'm telling you they ruining people lives in the state
• 30:06
  of Texas is I'm telling you the worst. They lead the nation in everything.
• 30:11
  They lead the nation and everything, honey, everything wrong. They lead
• 30:15
  the nation in everything wrong. They need the lation in. We talk about
• 30:22
  rob stepping on the indictments we talked about I just seen the Attorney general.
• 30:29
  They they allowing people to sue his ass now cause somebody getting ready to sue
• 30:36
  him. He round there suing everybody, mad at everybody because he got caught
• 30:41
  up in his mess. And they tried to impeach them, but his the
• 30:44
  powers that be that that control everything, they made sure that he stayed in
• 30:51
  position. And then now he back out here causing have it I hear cousin
• 30:56
  have but they somebody from somebody going after him because they got a lawsuit against
• 31:03
  him right now. But the state of Texas need to be a shame of
• 31:06
  they said, we talk about Cornell and Cornell has been on the show several
• 31:14
  times. Cornell is supposed to be up for parole and less than sixteen days
• 31:22
  when you come up for parole, mister Legate, what is the process when
• 31:29
  you come up for parole? Are they not supposed to contact you way before
• 31:36
  it's time for you to come up for parole, so to make sure that
• 31:38
  you have everything in line and and to make sure that everything is okay.
• 31:47
  Well, you're thinking that they would, but normally they're just run you in
• 31:51
  the night before telling you you got a parole in and and nine times under
• 31:55
  ten you already Norlin're gonna come up with parole say, for instance, I
• 31:59
  got convicted in ninety nine, but my case started in September the third of
• 32:04
  nineteen ninety eight, which was the first day I got arrested, So that's
• 32:07
  actually the day. But I'm supposed to h thirty years later I fill up
• 32:13
  for parole. So in twenty eight September the third of twenty eight as we
• 32:16
  throwed me up for parole. But like anybody who has a tenant, so
• 32:23
  I've been locked up for over twenty years, they don't get to talk to
• 32:27
  the to the commissioner. And this is when the commissioner, you know,
• 32:30
  they get a little bit of understanding of who you are and stuff like this,
• 32:32
  and where there's just other people who's just come up after the like maybe
• 32:36
  five ten years or whatever, they just go and see the unit parole leption
• 32:40
  and they'll just take information from them. But normally though they did city laying
• 32:45
  and that's about it. You know, now incarcerated for thirty three years,
• 32:51
  he was supposed to he's supposed to come up. He got a year set
• 32:54
  off and again, and I keep telling them, this is the issue that
• 33:00
  I have with the parole board, because they blocked they blacking out the numbers,
• 33:05
  so you don't know, you don't know what the score is, you
• 33:07
  don't know what the number is, you don't know what nothing is. So
• 33:10
  how how do people know what they need to work on so that they can
• 33:15
  be eligible for parole. I feel like if they're given these i EPs and
• 33:21
  and and they've given out these these these classifications, then they should be they
• 33:27
  should have everybody should have an assessment, and they should be made to go
• 33:32
  through that assessment, and they should be checking off those blocks. They should
• 33:37
  be moving up the level or whatever, and then they should have people and
• 33:43
  and and everybody that's on the same level. I feel like these are the
• 33:46
  people that should be in the prison together so that all these people they mindset
• 33:52
  are on the same because what I'm finding out is you got some people,
• 33:57
  you got some people in prison, and I don't see how. I don't
• 34:00
  know why they do this. I don't know why you will put somebody in
• 34:02
  prison that's a life for that that has that has all these life sentences,
• 34:09
  and then you put somebody over there that's only got four years over there with
• 34:14
  them, and then these people are getting in fights, and then now this
• 34:17
  person not fifty years added on to his four year sentence. I don't understand
• 34:22
  why the lights of me would you have put that person with that with that
• 34:25
  person. If you classify, if we're going through classification and classification, they
• 34:31
  should have classified. If I've I only got four years, I should have
• 34:36
  been placed with people that have less than five years. We should have been
• 34:40
  five years to the dove. And those are people that's working on their way
• 34:45
  out, and that's how they should be separated all the way up. And
• 34:50
  as you work, if you work down your program, then you work down
• 34:54
  your level. That's how it should be. You somebody that's getting in trouble,
• 35:00
  then you need to stay over there with the trouble makers. You need
• 35:04
  to stay back there where you at. You don't need to you don't need
• 35:07
  to be able to move. But they should not have these people, these
• 35:10
  drug users, because what I find down it's a lot of people. They
• 35:15
  got a lot of folks that's using these drugs. And then you've got people
• 35:19
  that don't use drugs these and these officers know that they're using it because I'm
• 35:24
  getting complaints about the smell. People are coughing, people can't breathe, you
• 35:30
  know. And then some of these people got asthma, and then they doing
• 35:32
  nothing about it that needs people. They call it tunes. So when they
• 35:37
  when they go and when they having a tune at they move them out.
• 35:40
  They go, they put them in in medical, they let them calm down.
• 35:44
  They come, they bring them back. But what discipline they're actually do
• 35:47
  they take place nothing? Because I believe that the the the workers are the
• 35:53
  ones that are bringing these drugs in. Because when they when y'all are right
• 35:58
  down, they supposedly took all of the paper product and all of them because
• 36:02
  they said it was coming in through paper products. So now they took all
• 36:07
  the paper product out. Y'all don't even get payper product. Y'all got the
• 36:13
  habits all you'll stuff when y'all get when when people do send y'all stuff in
• 36:16
  the mail, it goes to Huntsville and it get put on the tablet,
• 36:21
  and then y'all get it on your tablet. Y'all don't get paper no more.
• 36:23
  The only thing y'all get paper is from publishing companies and in bookstores and
• 36:30
  and and from your legal that's all y'all get. So now is drugs still
• 36:35
  coming in? That? That that's the How is the drug still coming in.
• 36:39
  You hit it under there. I mean, you know it's it's it's
• 36:43
  it only could come in one way and uh, you know you might have
• 36:46
  an other avai the same thing or the there's just peoples for a job.
• 37:00
  There's a lot of females, you know, they go and trying to get
• 37:02
  housed and try to get the PIC or whatever. They go to the unemployment
• 37:07
  and say, well, you know what, Uh they tvcj's hiring. Don't
• 37:10
  be a job of the the well you know, you know how that turns
• 37:14
  out. Uh, A lot of them can be there. They can be
• 37:15
  just guys in here who may be part of something out there in the world,
• 37:19
  and they might be a part of them in here. You never know.
• 37:22
  There's a lot of a lot of a lot of our assumptions that we
• 37:24
  can make that how they're bringing it, I mean, I know that they
• 37:28
  started as soon as the officers come, because the ship's supposed to start,
• 37:30
  a tick started. That's what kind of ship's supposed to change. What happens
• 37:35
  now is because they started implementing. UH as soon as an officer drives in.
• 37:38
  They got the dogs and they smell, but the dogs cannot smell that
• 37:43
  pay for drive it. They cannot smell it. I don't do. If
• 37:46
  you have it, they can have it right on. Dogs can come on
• 37:49
  them. They don't smell it. You know. I've seen them take our
• 37:52
  urine tests. It doesn't detective, you know what I'm saying. So this
• 37:55
  is a cameouflage for a really really uh destroying these guys. I say it
• 38:07
  is because I'm listening that these people call I hear, these people call I
• 38:13
  hear the complaints. I'm talking about people that don't even use the drugs.
• 38:15
  They telling me how their fingers are black, how just like all kind of
• 38:21
  stuff, you know, And for the people that are not using these drugs,
• 38:25
  you know, the side effects that these are chemicals that these people are
• 38:30
  taking in chemicals, we don't know what all is in this stuff because they're
• 38:35
  turning into a liquid form to get it inside, and we don't know what's
• 38:39
  in it. They smoking all kinds of paper, these people smoking their bibles,
• 38:43
  they smoking any kind of people that they can get to smoke that stuff
• 38:45
  off exactly exactly. You know. In fact, you mentioned about the guys
• 38:51
  the guy who died when he was actually smoking in front of another guy's house.
• 38:54
  Okay, and he can sell out. And he died and then uh,
• 38:59
  two other guys got him and moved him to the showers. Well they
• 39:01
  at first they didn't know what happened, but the cameras did take him.
• 39:06
  But they didn't do nothing to the guys. They didn't do They didn't get
• 39:08
  up for temporary with their dead body or nothing like that. They didn't even
• 39:12
  go and shake the guy down whose house he was smoking man or whatever.
• 39:15
  There's nothing like that going on. The cameras work to their benefit. If
• 39:21
  it denic them, they're gonna use it. If it doesn't done it for
• 39:23
  them, save you've got some kind of complain against an officer because he did
• 39:28
  this or did that. Oh we can't actually, well how can't you.
• 39:30
  It's a digital film camera that's on your computer. It gets digitally fed.
• 39:36
  And to my understanding, according to one of the guys who has actually solved
• 39:38
  these things, he said, those seeds are continuously going. You cannot stop
• 39:44
  it or delete it. It's just like body can. You can't delete a
• 39:47
  body can. That's why they stopped the body cams. That's why they stopped
• 39:52
  the body can. They stopped that action because they they want people to know,
• 39:59
  really what was going because they would not be able to get away with
• 40:01
  a lot of the stuff that they're getting away with. Just like, I
• 40:05
  don't see how you can tell tell me how do a A was it a
• 40:10
  G four in a G two? How a G G four stabbed and killed
• 40:15
  a G two over in the conra unit. Uh. They they're not even
• 40:22
  supposed to be in the same area. They're not in the same that they
• 40:25
  and they were in the same housing unit. I asked about that. Nobody
• 40:30
  never got back to me on that. That's why I keep saying that FB
• 40:34
  I need to get involved with what's going on in t d c J.
• 40:37
  They are in violation. They are in violation of of of the Eighth Amendment.
• 40:43
  They the cruel and unusual punishment because we're not gonna talk about when the
• 40:47
  women they did not have access of water. They they water was off and
• 40:54
  they was having them use the the porter parties. And then they wouldn't letting
• 41:00
  them use the pot They was only letting the officers. The officers was the
• 41:05
  only ones wanting to use the porter potters. They didn't even want to let
• 41:07
  the inmates use the the porter pottys. It was it was just crazy it
• 41:15
  was just crazy. They was. They was writing me telling me that they
• 41:19
  that the whole place smelled like poop. They said, the whole place they
• 41:23
  said it was it was just sickening. I mean, she was just telling
• 41:27
  me. She was like she she just she she she just she said she
• 41:30
  was sick to her stomach. She just like she she don't know how she's
• 41:34
  gonna do it. And I took and complaint. I wrote everybody that I
• 41:38
  could write, and Carlos Sherman, one one of the representatives, he assured
• 41:46
  me that they had got in contact with that that that that what what is
• 41:54
  that smart that city over there, I forgot the name of that city,
• 41:59
  but they had got in come tack with that city, and that they were
• 42:00
  transporting some some some tanks, some water tanks or something portable water tanks out
• 42:07
  there to them. Uh. Yeah, it was the horror unit, the
• 42:23
  hobby unit. It was the hobby unit. I'm sorry, I'm talking about
• 42:28
  horror that's Murder Beach. It's the hobby unit, the hobby unit. But
• 42:34
  yeah, I definitely, you know, that's that's it's for those that are
• 42:39
  listening and those that are tuned in that can see me live on on this
• 42:45
  broadcast. This this flyer that you see behind me Kings of hope, and
• 42:51
  these men that you see in this flyer, these men are gonna be sharing
• 42:54
  words of inspiration, words of encouragement, words of hope, you know,
• 42:59
  to pouring to those that are incarcerated, those that are in prison, because
• 43:05
  y'all hear what they go through on a day to day basis, and these
• 43:10
  individuals can sometimes feel like they have no one. And when when when you
• 43:16
  don't have anyone on the outside. Everyone everybody that you have is older and
• 43:23
  not able to do They're not able to keep up with the technology and not
• 43:27
  able to communicate the way you need or able to do what you need.
• 43:30
  You know, sometimes you lose hope. So I'm grateful for these amazing kings.
• 43:37
  It's seven of them that have stepped up and said that they want to
• 43:40
  share words of encouragement, words of inspiration to pour into these men. I'm
• 43:45
  gonna be sharing these books inside of TDCJ. We were able to do it
• 43:51
  for the women during the holiday season and we were able to pour into these
• 43:55
  women. We have these books inside of the hobby Unit and the Mirror Unit.
• 44:02
  Hopefully we're gonna get it into some more prison system where there's some women
• 44:07
  out there that we can provide some hope to and some encouragement too. And
• 44:13
  if you're out there, men, we still need your voice. We need
• 44:19
  you to help encourage these men, to let these men know that there is
• 44:23
  still hope and they need your inspiration, you know, and some of you
• 44:29
  guys have been in their place, so I definitely want you guys to reach
• 44:35
  out to me and get involved. It only costs twenty five dollars to be
• 44:37
  a part of this anthology, and I tell you it is an investment that
• 44:43
  will keep giving if you work it, it will keep giving because it would
• 44:49
  be a blessing to many. You don't know what your words, how your
• 44:53
  words can impact somebody. Just letting somebody know that they mean something to that
• 45:00
  you mean something to them is it can go a long ways. So,
• 45:04
  mister Legate, we we've we've talked about a lot, and I know there's
• 45:12
  so much more that we have to talk about. But as we close,
• 45:19
  because we probably probably got about we probably got about fifteen more minutes, I
• 45:23
  think, but before we close, what are the top three things that need
• 45:32
  to be addressed right now within TDC. J. Well I mean in overall,
• 45:39
  we're talking about systematic whine. I think the BO system needs to be
• 45:44
  rebound. That's a that's a number one thing. Secondly is if TDC is
• 45:50
  serious about trying to stir the GIRG burn, they should start an intitive program
• 45:55
  that will be beating with base three people that uh tied up to the story.
• 46:01
  The drugs is taking. It's almost it's almost like cracked and you can't
• 46:06
  get enough of it. It's there that everybody's gonna buy it. You're gonna
• 46:08
  send your money. Anything that you people sends you, you're gonna send it
• 46:10
  all you can go to start spend one hundred dollars. It's gonna come back
• 46:14
  to the don't do. It's crazy how it works, but it's true.
• 46:16
  Well, this is another thing that they can do. You can you can
• 46:20
  implement one whole buildings or sanction. It's just for those people over there.
• 46:24
  Get to lock them up in there, let them drain out, let them
• 46:27
  prove down, let them, let them try to work this out of their
• 46:30
  system. Let them start taking straight, let them start thinking better, clearer,
• 46:34
  and and become making more decisions that are better. To restabilize them back
• 46:37
  into society. The third one, I believe it's gonna be like a better
• 46:44
  progrand education. It can. It also gives his officers. You need to
• 46:50
  you need to really staff your officers and and and and allow your units to
• 46:54
  be able to properly function under your operational and security drive line. Because we
• 47:00
  got that. What you have, you have chaos, You have people doing
• 47:05
  whatever they want. It's it's never gonna change, never gonna stop. I
• 47:08
  believe the most the most terrible thing that can happen is when somebody comes to
• 47:14
  prison and dies in prisons because he has the drug condition. He comes to
• 47:17
  prison for drugs, but then again this is a closer get it, and
• 47:20
  then he dies. You know, that's not good for the family, you
• 47:23
  know. I mean, I think I think those are some issues that really
• 47:27
  needs to be raised. It really need to be top priorities, secially the
• 47:30
  drug epandemic that that is, that is, that's that's crazy. I've never
• 47:34
  I've been in the system for quite a while, and I remember when there
• 47:37
  was your second but regular people were smoking and stuff like this, or doing
• 47:40
  a little other stuff. But it wasn't a bad of what it is now.
• 47:45
  I've seen people year up to the to the top of their lines,
• 47:49
  like if the devil is chasing them and they don't even know what's going on.
• 47:52
  They're lost at traffic, and then they get stuck. They can't even
• 47:54
  move, they can't even target. Like it's like seeing a ball a f
• 48:00
  you hit it that raid and that's the way you see a person here when
• 48:02
  they're smoking that stuff. They get stuff like that, and they're just so
• 48:07
  so I mean, it's it's that's the thing, but it's it's a true
• 48:10
  reality of fact that's going on in the system. And I think those are
• 48:15
  the things that needs to be changed because instead of releasing Spectering for us,
• 48:17
  instead of releasing knuckleheads that really does not qualify for the for the h that
• 48:24
  honored to be released at that time. And I'm not saying not to release
• 48:29
  them altogether, but just wait till you have they need the criteria, you
• 48:34
  know, and then release those who actually do make the criteria, because this
• 48:37
  way give him a chance to go back into society and be somebody. Especially
• 48:42
  people are doing like, well, now he's been doing what he's been doing
• 48:45
  thirty three years, you said, thirty three years, four years, thirty
• 48:52
  and and they they right now Cornell said to me, he feels like they
• 48:57
  are because of all the stuff that he has exposed, all the stuff that
• 49:01
  he has been fighting, Because this man has been fighting for since day one.
• 49:07
  He has been fighting for his innocing. He's not not on back down.
• 49:14
  They are afraid of this man being set free. They're afraid of him
• 49:17
  being on the outside because they know that he's not gonna be quiet. He's
• 49:22
  not gonna sit down. And a lot of these people that is incarcerated,
• 49:24
  he's gonna set them free. He's gonna bring them home because of all the
• 49:29
  stuff that he has exposed and all of the stuff that he has exposed in
• 49:32
  a lot of these people's cases. Like every every single day, I get
• 49:37
  phone calls from people that want Cornell to work on their case. That there
• 49:42
  is one them to check into his case. Check into this, check into
• 49:45
  that, check into that. You know, Cornell has helped individuals that have
• 49:52
  had paid twenty and thirty forty thousand dollars to lawyers and the lawyers did not
• 49:58
  represent them right, and he been able to get their money back. Ain't
• 50:04
  nothing nobody told me. Dad came on the phone and told me, he
• 50:07
  said, I appreciate y'all, he said, And what can I do?
• 50:10
  And he this, His mom called me and she ordered five dollars worth a
• 50:20
  free Texas campaign teacher. And it's good like that because it's like I said,
• 50:27
  especially if you're like Savior or time, like San Antonio, Houston or
• 50:30
  any any other time. If you really look at it, lawyers and prosecutors
• 50:35
  are all one. Just like with they all go they live probably in the
• 50:38
  same neighborhood, the kids go to school together, they probably played golf together,
• 50:44
  and all this. But when it comes to justice too, or if
• 50:46
  you're supposed to go to court, they make these little deals. There's no
• 50:52
  justice whatever to the skills of justice. Look at me. I mean here,
• 50:55
  you're going on twenty six years as well for a crime writing committee.
• 50:59
  And if you ain't got no money to pay these people off and to pay
• 51:05
  into these campaign funds, because that's what it's all about. Everybody that is
• 51:08
  aware of the pay for play scanner that took place in Barretts County, everybody's
• 51:15
  aware of that that they hushed hushed about that. But then they the prosecutor
• 51:21
  came up dead, the judge. The judge came up with some stuff.
• 51:27
  I mean all kinds of stuff. They was getting ready to take Cornell back
• 51:30
  to the court, and then his prosecutor come up dead. She come up
• 51:34
  dead. And then they hold this man in prison and then they take an
• 51:38
  attempt on his life. They fill his body with clear liquid, and they
• 51:44
  was hoping that he was gonna die, but he survived, and he's not
• 51:49
  letting it go. They're not fineish, they're not getting away with this,
• 51:52
  just like one hundred million dollar lawsuit that he got against them right now that
• 51:58
  they tried to deny this and try to deny that. But then they they
• 52:00
  in one breath they're saying that if this is true, and this is true,
• 52:06
  and you know this is true, but if it's true, then why
• 52:09
  don't you do your job? Why don't you do your jobs as a as
• 52:14
  a judge. See a lot of stuff these judges allow that they shouldn't even
• 52:17
  allow in these court rooms. You you you hear this, and and and
• 52:23
  you allow these these lawyers and these these prosecutors in these das to stand up
• 52:29
  and say stuff that they're not supposed to say. And then they tack the
• 52:31
  jewelry that they allow stuff to take place in and around the courtroom that should
• 52:37
  not be taking place. Well, where it's to justice. How can you
• 52:40
  give me a black woman or a black man, or all white or all
• 52:45
  Hispanic jury and say that that that that is for me? And how can
• 52:50
  you give a Hispanic person or all white jury and say that that that that
• 52:53
  that represents them. How that's not a representation of me, that's not a
• 52:59
  representation, that does not represent me. That that that is a violation of
• 53:04
  my eighth Amendment. That's true, the violation of my eighth Amendment. And
• 53:09
  that's what's been happening in the state of Texas. Not only that's been happening
• 53:14
  in the state of Texas, the state of Texas got a book that that
• 53:17
  that outlines that they don't want no black people on the jury. It states
• 53:22
  that in the book, the book has been exposed and these people know that
• 53:27
  this book exists and it was an instruction manual. They will instructing them how
• 53:34
  to do this and how to do that. That's crazy. Do you know
• 53:39
  did you know that that most people might not know? But all judges ex
• 53:47
  prosecutors. You're gonna furtherly see a defense attorney be elected to be a judge
• 53:55
  nine times from maybe ninety nine percent of the time going to be a next
• 54:00
  persecutor. The next persecutor is always going to be the judge and the system.
• 54:07
  That's how they laugh while y'all, that's how they keep people out of
• 54:09
  the system, because guess what. Most of these people start out as public
• 54:14
  defenders. They they the the paid lawyers or whatever the however court apponted lawyers
• 54:22
  that they call them or whatever. We call them public defenders in in in
• 54:25
  the state that I live in, but they call them different stuff in different
• 54:30
  states. But they work for that they work for They don't work for me.
• 54:37
  They work for those in the office over there with them people. So
• 54:40
  how can you defend me? Yeah, you can't defend me. I don't
• 54:45
  want your service. I don't want your service. And that's what I tell
• 54:52
  them, people, you're better if you wanted the defender, you better invest
• 54:58
  your money in a paid lawyer and not no public defender. Because all these
• 55:01
  public defenders, nine times out of ten, and when they leave the public
• 55:07
  defender's office, they normally go on down and they become assistant district attorneys,
• 55:14
  and then they go on down the line become district attorneys, and then after
• 55:19
  they get the district attorney position. Then the next thing, you know,
• 55:22
  they on the Court of Appeal. Then guess what, you black ball the
• 55:25
  whole time. You ain't never getting out. You're finna serve all your time.
• 55:30
  They they you're finna go to the dough or not everything. I'm sorry,
• 55:37
  Uh, I was gonna say believe it or not. I plouned it
• 55:40
  my file. The prosecutor, the one who railroaded me mans Voskin's gardener Fais
• 55:47
  gardeners she uh both test let her in my file saying that she recommends that
• 55:53
  I never before owen. So in other words, you're giving me likely out.
• 55:59
  You didn't do right, just gotta but either way, Angela, thank
• 56:02
  you so much. And you public you'll want to know about me, just
• 56:06
  suger James late and you'll find everything you need to see about my case and
• 56:09
  everything. And Angela, thank you very much for allowing me on here again.
• 56:14
  And I'll get a hold of you Saturday. I'll talk to you next
• 56:16
  week. Okay, I'll see that, all right, all right, right,
• 56:22
  okay, all right, all right, So so I'm here. Yes,
• 56:34
  Wow, that's a lot, I know that it is. And then
• 56:43
  I listened to Denver and what is going on in Denver right now, Like
• 56:52
  for the lights of me, Like I'm i'm, I'm I'm still thinking about
• 56:58
  your husband's case and how they stealed his case. Yeah, they're not supposed
• 57:07
  to do that. Yeah, his case is sealed and they're not they supposed
• 57:13
  to do They're not supposed to do that because they deny him access to defend
• 57:19
  himself. They ask, and and why they wait so long to seal his
• 57:25
  case. I don't know, he's nobody. That's no sense to me.
• 57:32
  That's exactly what he's trying to find out. Anything he needs out of that
• 57:37
  case, he has to go through a judge, and nine times out of
• 57:40
  the nine times out of ten, that judge will deny it saying that he
• 57:46
  doesn't need it. There's no, no, no reason for that. So,
• 57:52
  yeah, they did seal his case. And how they denying him that
• 57:58
  is denying him as sense to legal representation, legal I mean, it's denying
• 58:05
  him proper access to his legal files. Yeah, yeah, that's what they
• 58:13
  do. They do so much and then they act like it's okay, and
• 58:20
  it's not. I just don't get it. I don't get it. You
• 58:23
  know, these people sit back in behind these closed doors and making all these
• 58:30
  decisions, and they definitely don't have none of us. They don't have no
• 58:35
  brown person and in their mind when they're making these decisions, you know,
• 58:42
  and a lot of us, we we've gotten caught up and and and and
• 58:46
  thinking that this world cares about us, this world don't care about us.
• 58:52
  And if we don't begin to care about ourselves and begin to stand up for
• 58:57
  ourselves, I'm talking about truly stand up for ourselves. Like I see people
• 59:04
  all the time, a lot of us are doing the same thing, but
• 59:07
  it's like we we we can't come together and do what we're doing, like
• 59:12
  everybody at like what they're doing is so much more important. We all doing
• 59:15
  the same thing. Like that's why it does not bother me. Every every
• 59:21
  chance I get, I'm trying to share some whatever I got, I'm trying
• 59:23
  to share whoever, if somebody can come on the show, if I can
• 59:30
  get if I can get some of them on the But however, you know,
• 59:36
  we got another hurdle. We got another hurdle to tackle now because Denver,
• 59:42
  Colorado didn't even have the conversation. We can't even have a conversation with
• 59:52
  me. No it's crazy, like and I got to find out really the
• 1:00:01
  I think we're gonna be able to file a lawsuit against them. I gotta
• 1:00:07
  see, because that's the violation of their First Amendment right freedom of speech.
• 1:00:15
  And then it's a violation of them have an asset to the public and being
• 1:00:22
  able to share. You know, how how can you not allow somebody to
• 1:00:27
  share their story. It's their story, it's their truth. You know,
• 1:00:31
  if y'all adoring underhanded stuff, then y'all need to be host I mean,
• 1:00:37
  that's that's that's that's they can only from what the letter that that was given
• 1:00:46
  to my husband and they stated they wanted him to be personally served that letter,
• 1:00:53
  give it to him so he would know that. You know, hey,
• 1:00:59
  you cannot talk about your case, not less you actually talking to uh
• 1:01:07
  like law enforcement or something. They can't like they said, oh, they
• 1:01:15
  wouldn't got the look. They wasn't got a some kind of um rule about
• 1:01:23
  the phones. They they're not allowed say like if somebody walked behind them and
• 1:01:30
  said, hey tell you tell your wife high or you know something, they
• 1:01:34
  can't pass that message to me. I can't say, hey tell such and
• 1:01:37
  such child. They said, that's passing that's passing mute messages. They're not
• 1:01:45
  allowed to have like recordings you like, like we're doing. They waited up
• 1:01:53
  until last week until they found that rule to give to them, to say,
• 1:02:00
  hey, you guys got to stop it. If you're not talking to
• 1:02:02
  the law enforcement or anybody, you can't do it. You can't do it.
• 1:02:08
  And you know, and to when they was first coming on here and
• 1:02:14
  they was talking to me and they was sharing their stories, these men had
• 1:02:19
  so much hope. They're like, wow, you know, now my message
• 1:02:23
  is gonna get out. You know, people is gonna hear my case.
• 1:02:28
  They have nothing to hide, as you guys can see, they landed all
• 1:02:31
  out. They sending me their case, their cases, and I'm going over
• 1:02:37
  their cases, and it's unbelievable to see how Denver won't accept their law.
• 1:02:45
  They put the law out there for to be followed. But when these men
• 1:02:52
  are behind the wall and they're fighting to come out and they take that same
• 1:02:58
  law that's in place and give it act to them, they tell your your
• 1:03:05
  public defender should have took care of that or should address that. You know,
• 1:03:09
  they they doing a little sneaky stuff. They doing a little sneaky stuff.
• 1:03:14
  So you know, we just gotta stay. That's what they're doing.
• 1:03:19
  They keep covering. That's how they're doing. They keep covering for each other,
• 1:03:24
  they keep but they doing nothing. But they keep putting a band aide
• 1:03:29
  over a womb that is never gonna heal until they address the issues that that
• 1:03:34
  you keep brushing it under. The rug. The rug is high. The
• 1:03:37
  rug, it's the The rug is not a heel. It's not it's it's
• 1:03:45
  not level no more. It's not flat no more. Because you're donna put
• 1:03:47
  too much under there. So now it's time to level this this this hill
• 1:03:52
  that you don't build because y'all keep brushing stuff up under. And guess what
• 1:03:55
  I'm here to. I'm here to help you take that heel down. But
• 1:04:00
  because I'm not going nowhere, I'm not going to then get tired of me.
• 1:04:08
  But I'm not going nowhere. And they're really gonna, I'm telling you,
• 1:04:15
  they they they gonna, they're gonna. I'm telling you, they're gonna
• 1:04:17
  get tired. They're gonna get tired of me before they gonna quit. Before
• 1:04:23
  I quit humh. That's one thing about me. I ain't quit hum But
• 1:04:28
  you know it's it's not a lot of family members. That's that's standing behind
• 1:04:34
  these man. It's half of the family members truly believe that they actually guilty
• 1:04:41
  of what they were of the crime. But once you get their case,
• 1:04:47
  because this is what people are saying, this freak brainwashed. You know that
• 1:04:57
  we have been taught that if if somebody say, if the other race say
• 1:05:01
  we did something, yeah we did it, and they say we did it,
• 1:05:04
  we did it, we did it, we did it just a lit
• 1:05:08
  from a pedal hell, and they can send it back because them crackers been
• 1:05:12
  trying to lock us up. Them crackers been planning the stuff from the get
• 1:05:15
  go. Yeah, And I call him then because that's what they And you
• 1:05:20
  know, just like you down if you can and you you don't have respect
• 1:05:26
  for humans, you are cracker to me. Mm hmm yeah. Just like
• 1:05:31
  in mister Kemp's case, he was got one hundred and ninety two years plus
• 1:05:36
  a life sentence added on that. And it wasn't a homicide attached to that.
• 1:05:45
  It wasn't nothing. He wasn't found you know, it was you know,
• 1:05:51
  it wasn't even a broken nose or it wasn't about his case. He
• 1:05:56
  didn't a lot of people didn't want to said a lot of people didn't want
• 1:06:01
  to say. He didn't want to admit it. But we all know what
• 1:06:06
  was about. We all know that that was racial. We all know that
• 1:06:10
  themckers had something to prove. We all know that because why because he was
• 1:06:15
  black and he had them white babies. He had a white he had a
• 1:06:19
  white lady, and he had them mixed babies. That's what that was about.
• 1:06:25
  They weren't like that. And then you talking about just just just they
• 1:06:29
  don't like it. Now I go in the store, I see them all
• 1:06:34
  the time. You you, I got a neighbor right now, you got
• 1:06:40
  you got you got black babies. But you don't even you don't even want
• 1:06:44
  to speak. I speak to you, and you walk past me like you
• 1:06:45
  didn't hear me speak. But you you you you They went somebody that looked
• 1:06:51
  like me every night, and your kids look more like me than you.
• 1:06:59
  And that's what these people do. Yeah, they try to, they don't
• 1:07:05
  they they mad mm hmmm. Yeah. See, we we don't. We're
• 1:07:13
  the only we're the only rights of people that can have we can we can,
• 1:07:16
  we can, we can have all of them. We we can look
• 1:07:21
  like all of them. But see. Yeah, they they they can't.
• 1:07:30
  They can't. They can't. They can't look like us. No, they
• 1:07:33
  gotta do a lot to do. They gotta, they gotta get do a
• 1:07:36
  lot to get this color. They they gotta get a lot to to to
• 1:07:42
  get a lot of these features that we get naturally. Yes, they do
• 1:07:48
  a lot for they know what they did, and a lot of them and
• 1:07:53
  a lot of it go back to slavery because a lot of them men women,
• 1:08:00
  and then women were getting mad. That's why a lot of them.
• 1:08:02
  That's why a lot of them women don't like us, because they men were
• 1:08:12
  going to us and they was having them big babies back then. Yeah.
• 1:08:16
  Yeah, they just found out that Thomas Jefferson had all of them black babies.
• 1:08:23
  Mm hmmm. A lot of history we didn't know about. He got
• 1:08:27
  a lot of black babies talking around here, Thomas Jefferson. Good Thomas Jefferson,
• 1:08:33
  because that's what they were doing. They don't. Yeah, and then
• 1:08:40
  they don't want a lot of they and then the ones that could not have
• 1:08:44
  children. Guess who was having their children? Mm hmm. Yeah, a
• 1:08:51
  lot of them go trace the DNA. I bet you they ain't. They
• 1:08:57
  they ain't who you think they are mm hmm. But he's been doing they've
• 1:09:01
  been doing this. They've been doing this to us. But y'all, it
• 1:09:06
  stopped, and we gotta stop it. We gotta stop allowing these people to
• 1:09:12
  continue to do this stuff. We gotta get these prisons reformed. These people
• 1:09:18
  putting all this money in the prison system. Why they can't put it into
• 1:09:21
  the school system, Why they can't put it into the school system. And
• 1:09:27
  and and work on developing technology, work work on developing trades for these kids,
• 1:09:32
  teaching these kids how to farm, teaching these kids how how to how
• 1:09:36
  to make this world sustainable. But yet we want to keep on destroying it.
• 1:09:45
  We want to keep on breaking the black family up. You know,
• 1:09:48
  somebody posted something on on on on on on Facebook the other day about J.
• 1:09:54
  C. Penning. You know you you you know how they used to
• 1:09:57
  take those family portraits. Yeah, and and they always one thing they always
• 1:10:02
  was about family portraits. Okay, you look on their little flyer. You
• 1:10:06
  look on they little they little flyer in front of the little stove. They
• 1:10:11
  got a black family up there, then they got a white family. So
• 1:10:15
  in the black family, it's a mom and two kids, a boy and
• 1:10:18
  a little here. Yeah, in the white family, you got they got
• 1:10:24
  the whole family, and then you got the dad. Because that's what they
• 1:10:30
  have thisys thematically taught us. They they brainwashed it that this is hot,
• 1:10:36
  supposed to be mm hmmm. And then that's work their agendas. That that's
• 1:10:43
  that's when they can slip in the homosexuality and and and they can do all
• 1:10:46
  this other stuff because no, you ain't born any way. That's that's that's
• 1:10:54
  free that that that's free will. We got a choice, we can choose.
• 1:10:59
  Yeah, we can choose because guess what that he everything, every one
• 1:11:08
  of those spirits, they and all of us, all those spirits and all
• 1:11:13
  of us. But you gotta line how to keep that flesh under containment.
• 1:11:18
  And that's why you stay in the world. That's why you gotta stayed while.
• 1:11:24
  You got to stay in alignment. Yes, with all those spirits,
• 1:11:30
  what you think what they there ain't nothing new under the sun. So everything
• 1:11:41
  is it's it's out here, and these spirits do nothing but transfer from one
• 1:11:45
  person to the next, one person to the next, one person to the
• 1:11:47
  next, one person to the next. It gets tired of being over there,
• 1:11:49
  go jump on you. And then you want to go down here.
• 1:11:51
  Why you haven't moved for honey, who you know lay with? Because whoever
• 1:11:58
  you lay who ain't with? People don't understand spiritual man, spiritual transfer is
• 1:12:05
  real. Yes it is. You wonder why I'm telling you. I used
• 1:12:10
  to wonder why I didn't understand until I listened to wandering about them no more
• 1:12:15
  sheet listening to that lady, and and and talking about how you just just
• 1:12:21
  man, I'm telling you. One day, I man, it felt like
• 1:12:26
  it felt like something just got up and just got and walked up out of
• 1:12:30
  me and look like I've seen something black, just like what the honeah move
• 1:12:41
  swings all that you want to dang, I feel like that. I want,
• 1:12:49
  Hannah, your spirit about who you slept with. You don't know who
• 1:12:55
  they slept, who they slept with, how many people they don't slept with?
• 1:13:00
  Because think about if you don't slept with five people, how many people
• 1:13:04
  them five people don't slept with And just take me if they don't slept with
• 1:13:09
  five people, if all five of those people you don't slept with slept with
• 1:13:14
  five people, that's twenty five spirits up with you, girl. And people
• 1:13:18
  don't think that that's real why sometimes you be happy, sometimes you be sad.
• 1:13:24
  Sometimes you be over there. You don't know what's going on. Yeah,
• 1:13:28
  you're all over the place. You be all over the place. That's
• 1:13:30
  why. Huh yeah, tek. The spiritual warfare is reasons. People better
• 1:13:35
  understand that, better watch it because you don't know, you know, like
• 1:13:43
  my people say, well, I was straight. Now all of a sudden,
• 1:13:48
  I'm having thoughts about being with a woman or a man saying he having
• 1:13:55
  thoughts about being with a beer. You don't know what person slept with,
• 1:14:00
  a person that had that spirit, and now all of a sudden you haven't
• 1:14:06
  right. You gotta be careful. You gotta be careful because the spirit spiritual
• 1:14:13
  spirits is real and they do transfer. They do transfer, and you ain't
• 1:14:19
  got the all the time. Be intimate with nobody for them spirits to transfer.
• 1:14:24
  You could just come in contact with somebody and you like them. All
• 1:14:30
  these people be talking about these they be practicing shikari. They they be they
• 1:14:35
  be in tuning. They they shire us and and and shakiras or whatever they
• 1:14:41
  call them, getting in tune with the third They they they all of these
• 1:14:45
  different kind of things. But you better be prayed up when you tapping into
• 1:14:48
  all the can you understand a lot of people want to get spiritual and they
• 1:14:55
  but you better be prayed up and you better know what you're tackling when you
• 1:15:00
  when you opening it up that stuff, Honey, they close for a reason,
• 1:15:03
  don't for a reason. For a reason. Don't think if if they
• 1:15:13
  was meant to be wide open like that, they will be wide open.
• 1:15:16
  But they close for a reason. And if you not ready to open them
• 1:15:21
  up like that, I suggest you not be over that plan because I'm telling
• 1:15:26
  you that's a whole other monster. That's a whole other monster. People don't
• 1:15:31
  understand if they don't truly don't understand, Like you don't see all this stuff
• 1:15:35
  going on right here in your face right now. Mm hmm. There's so
• 1:15:41
  much going on, the powers that be just all over here. And then
• 1:15:44
  you'll be wondering the internet be over here doing all that stuff. Huh,
• 1:15:48
  it's more than that be going on. Yeah, you better know it.
• 1:15:57
  If you don't know, you better open up their word and go over there
• 1:16:00
  and get in it. Huh. Go see a lot of stuff that you
• 1:16:04
  ain't seen before. I ain't even gonna get off on the on on on
• 1:16:09
  the on on this, on this eclipse that everybody thought we had. I
• 1:16:15
  didn't see it. I ain't I ain't gonna get off on the eclipse that
• 1:16:19
  everybody thought we had. People taking pictures and doing all kind of stuff.
• 1:16:24
  And then people start seeing the moon. They say, well, the moon
• 1:16:28
  over here and it's covering the sun. Her Yeah, so how is the
• 1:16:36
  moon over here and it's covering the sun. It's supposed to be right here.
• 1:16:45
  Then I say yeah, And then you got pictures of people so And
• 1:16:50
  then if you go back and listen to some of the tiktoks, even before
• 1:16:55
  this, they was warning you that that was gonna happen. And then I'm
• 1:17:00
  talking about it was a girl on that breaking it down. I'm talking about
• 1:17:02
  she even talking about Geneva. She even talking about the Sena and and and
• 1:17:08
  they logos and and and how you can see the six six sixth in there
• 1:17:12
  and all kinds of stuff. They talking about, how the space the Space
• 1:17:17
  Shuttle travel is is a it's a flow, it's it's a fake. That
• 1:17:24
  is that stuff is right down there in Texas. One of them is in
• 1:17:28
  Texas, and one of them is in Florida. The people be thinking they're
• 1:17:30
  going up in space and they ain't going nowhere. Man. They exposing a
• 1:17:34
  lot of stuff. This is the year for exposure. So it's it's it's
• 1:17:40
  the most stuff in the come out. It's a whole lot going to come
• 1:17:43
  out. Yes, But I just I wanted to thank you for jumping on
• 1:17:47
  here and sharing and just and transparent. So let everybody know who you are
• 1:17:56
  before we leave and how they can tune into your show. Well, my
• 1:18:00
  name is Chanette Johnson. I'm the host of Let's Talk About It. It
• 1:18:04
  airs or the first and third Monday of each month. If you know someone
• 1:18:13
  that's incarcerated, wrong, flue or whatever and they just want to talk,
• 1:18:16
  they want to get their story out, give them tell them to call me
• 1:18:21
  if they can email me at Shanette Johnson at gmail dot com. I don't
• 1:18:29
  I forgot my other number because I don't even use it, but they can
• 1:18:32
  just send me an email or they can't look me up on Facebook and Let's
• 1:18:36
  Talk About It and they can send me a message that way they can get
• 1:18:43
  in Those are the ways they can get in touch with me. Well,
• 1:18:49
  I thank you for stopping by and sharing with me on this Monday y'all.
• 1:18:56
  For those that don't know, I do this every Monday from probably about twelve
• 1:19:03
  to around this time every Monday, those that want to call in from TDCJ
• 1:19:11
  or any prison that want to talk about things that are going on inside of
• 1:19:15
  the prison that people are not addressing, that people are not bringing to attention,
• 1:19:19
  because there's a lot of stuff that's being unaddressed and stuff that's being brushed
• 1:19:24
  under the rug. And I'm not gonna let it go. You know,
• 1:19:28
  I don't know why I was given dismantle, but it's in my lap and
• 1:19:34
  I can't let it go. See when I'm the type person if I see
• 1:19:38
  something, I have to do something about it. I am the change that
• 1:19:42
  I desire to see in this group, and change starts and end with me.
• 1:19:46
  So, y'all, I have to be about it. I can't sit
• 1:19:49
  still again. If you know somebody that is incarcerated, and in the state
• 1:19:56
  of Texas that is incarcerated, and Colorado, that Georgia, South Carolina,
• 1:20:03
  anywhere, we want to bring awareness to their cases, especially if they have
• 1:20:10
  been wrongfully or overly incarcerated. We know that individuals break the law every day,
• 1:20:16
  but there should be a time limit on the punishment of what happens to
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  if nobody kills anybody, I don't see where they should be given life sentences.
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  If a life is not taken, you should not take someone else's life,
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  because you're taking that person's life when you put them and you mandate them
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  to serve thirty to forty years before they can even come up for parole.
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  You're taking their lives. You've just altered their lives and everyone that is connected
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  to them, because think about it, if they're twenty years old, they're
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  gonna be sixty. They're gonna be fifty or sixty years old before they come
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  out, right, They're gonna be fifty or sixty years old before they come
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  out. And these these miners that they are locking up and throwing away the
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  key, they're giving these babies more time than they're giving the adults that are
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  actually committing these crimes. You got individuals that locked up in the state of
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  Texas because they were in the car a party to the crime, didn't know
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  what these people are going to do. One lady, she she was a
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  teenage mom in the car with her husband, didn't know he was going to
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  rob nobody, and now her life has been off for the rest of her
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  life. Her kids life has been altered. Now she's sent her forties and
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  she's fighting to get out of prison. You got an individual that was was
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  was a drug addict and was and had drugs for their own personal consumption.
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  But because they didn't like them, and because they wanted to make an example
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  out of them, they gave them eighty five years. This is what they're
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  doing to our people. We're not going to talk about the Caucasian man that
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  three four weeks ago shot and killed his wife point blank range, would assault
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  our shotgun on ring camp, and they gave him ten years. Oh ten
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  years. God don't understand it. That's why I go so hard, and
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  that's why this book has to come forth June first, because there's some men
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  that are behind these prison walls that need to know that there's people out here
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  cheering for them. There's other males out here root for them. They hadn't
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  forgot you. Yeah, mistakes, but our mistakes don't define us. If
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  I'd allowed my mistakes to keep me down, I wouldn't be doing none of
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  the stuff that I'm doing. Mm hmm. I'm not perfect. I made
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  plenty of mistakes. But God forgave me. He gave me a second,
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  the third, or fourth, or fifth, a sixth time. He don't
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  gave me so many chances. I don't stop saying a second chance. He
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  don't gave me another chance, and another chance in another chance. And if
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  I wake up tomorrow, y'all, he gonna give me another chance. So
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  why can't we give these individuals behind prison wall and the chance, give them
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  an opportunity to get back out into siety. Give them a chance. You're
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  not even giving them a chance. Mm hmm. You gotta have faith in
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  them, and then you got to allow them to do the work to activate
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  that faith. Huh. It works in every areas of our life. Huh,
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  y'all were out of here. Thank you our for tuning in. If
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  y'all have been blessed by anything that we have shared on this afternoon, please
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  share it out with someone in your circle and I'll see you guys back here
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  next Monday, same time, same place. We're doing the same thing,
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  y'all, So come on back, come on back, Come on back,
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  y'all, have a great afternoon. All things an't what they used to be
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  down where did all the blue skies? But boys instow window blows from the
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  look of something well pursing mercy beings. All things an't what they used to deno