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The Bolt Report | 2 October · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: He's the Reform It.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm James
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  Speaker 3: Macpherson coming up tonight. The Coalition finally decided that nuclear
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  Speaker 3: power should be part of their energy policy like it
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  Speaker 3: had been before they threw everything up in the air.
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  Speaker 3: Barnaby Joyce will join me to discuss the announcement. The
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  Speaker 3: UK government spends a billion pounds to stop their wind
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  Speaker 3: turbines from spinning. Graham Lloyd will tell us why, and
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  Speaker 3: wait until you hear the reason. A shocking admission from
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  Speaker 3: the Queensland Child's Safety Department. I'll tell you what if
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  Speaker 3: a childcare center had done what the department knowingly did,
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  Speaker 3: heads would roll my panel.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get into that one.
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  Speaker 3: And Nigel Farage has his security detail cut right as
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  Speaker 3: the PM and Deputy PM of England denounce him as
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  Speaker 3: a racist and a Nazi sympathizer. I'll go live to
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  Speaker 3: London for more on that with Patrick Christie's but First
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  Speaker 3: Victorian Premier Jinta Allen has finally broken her silence for
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  Speaker 3: the past week. She's been mute on whether or not
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  Speaker 3: it's appropriate for a biological man who sexually abused his
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  Speaker 3: daughter to be housed in a female prison because he's
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  Speaker 3: taken female hormones and now identifies as such. Danika Degeorgio
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  Speaker 3: and I talked about this story on our program Sunday
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  Speaker 3: two weeks ago, and despite mass media coverage since, as
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  Speaker 3: well as a petition signed by more than twelve thousand people,
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  Speaker 3: the matter had until today been completely ignored by the
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  Speaker 3: Victorian Premier, which was odd because Jacinta Allen has always
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  Speaker 3: promoted herself as the patron saint of women's safety, but
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to a male sex offender serving time
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  Speaker 3: in a women's correctional center, well, Jacinta Allen has been
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  Speaker 3: harder to find than a Victorian budget surplus. Today she
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  Speaker 3: finally addressed the subject of a male sex offender serving
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  Speaker 3: time in a women's prison, and by address the subject,
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  Speaker 3: I of course mean dodged.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not going to comment on individual circumstances of individual
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  Speaker 5: prisoners across the correction's victorious system.
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  Speaker 4: Translation.
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  Speaker 3: If I say literally anything, the spell of woke double
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  Speaker 3: speech might break. The Victorian Premier wasn't asked about individual
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  Speaker 3: prisoners across the system. She was asked about one prisoner,
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  Speaker 3: a prisoner who has a penis and is currently bunking
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  Speaker 3: in with the ladies at the women's prison, just to
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  Speaker 3: sint to Allen not have an opinion on whether that's appropriate.
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  Speaker 4: Surely she has an opinion.
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  Speaker 3: This is a premier who could give you six hundred
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  Speaker 3: words on whether recycling bins should be blue or yellow.
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  Speaker 3: But men in women's prisons, well, suddenly she's Switzerland, by
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  Speaker 3: which I mean neutral, bland and surrounded by mountains of nonsense.
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  Speaker 5: The placement of prisoners is one that is governed by
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  Speaker 5: corrections Victoria, and the safety and well being of all
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  Speaker 5: prisoners is paramount when considering the placement of prisoners.
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  Speaker 3: I would have thought the biological sex of prisoners was
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  Speaker 3: paramount when considering the placement of prisoners, but.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, that's just me.
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  Speaker 3: If they'd been running just into Ellen's respectful Relationships program
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  Speaker 3: in Victorian schools when I was at Rosebud Primary, well
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  Speaker 3: I'd be more enlightened. By which, of course I mean programmed.
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  Speaker 3: Here's some more of the premiere ducking and weaving and
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  Speaker 3: generally doing anything to avoid admitting what we all know.
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  Speaker 3: Is it appropriate for a bloke to be housed in
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  Speaker 3: a women's prison.
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  Speaker 5: The safety and well being of all prisoners is taken
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  Speaker 5: into account by Corrections Victoria.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, yes, and nothing screens safety and well being like
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  Speaker 3: letting a convicted male sex offender sleep in a women's
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  Speaker 3: cell block. Back as twenty twenty two female prisoners at
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  Speaker 3: the Dame Phyllis Frost Women's Correctional Center, we're complaining to
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  Speaker 3: authorities that a woman with a and I'm quoting here
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  Speaker 3: working penis was imprisoned with them. If only Corrections Victoria
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  Speaker 3: was a working organ. Instead, it's more like an appendix,
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  Speaker 3: useless until it bursts and makes you sick. A freedom
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  Speaker 3: of information request from the Herald's son has revealed that
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  Speaker 3: Corrections Victoria have transferred at least six males from men's
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  Speaker 3: prisons to female prisons after they transitioned while in custody
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  Speaker 3: between two thousand and three and twenty twenty three. That's
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  Speaker 3: not corrections, that state sponsored delusion. Jacinta Allen is a
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  Speaker 3: champion of women when it's politically convenient.
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  Speaker 6: We're doing this, speaker, because our government, my government, we
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  Speaker 6: believe women, We respect women, and we support women. We
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  Speaker 6: know that women's pain is real, and we're making sure
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  Speaker 6: that their care cannot be dismissed or overlooked.
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  Speaker 5: Anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Ah.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Ellen believes women, respects women, supports women, except for
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  Speaker 3: those women who don't want to share their selves with
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  Speaker 3: male sex offenders. Those women, well, it's not really her
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  Speaker 3: place to comment. I had to smile when justint to
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  Speaker 3: Ellen boasted and I'm quoting, we know that women's pain
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  Speaker 3: is real. I'm not sure justin to Ellen knows what
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  Speaker 3: a woman is.
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  Speaker 5: I think it would be deeply inappropriate for any member
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  Speaker 5: of Parliament, minister or Premier of the day to be
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  Speaker 5: reaching in to Corrections Victoria and directing the placement of
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  Speaker 5: any prisoner across the prison system.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, just in to Ellan is more than happy
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  Speaker 3: to reach in to Victorian homes to dictate whether they
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  Speaker 3: can use gas to cook their dinner, and she's more
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  Speaker 3: than happy to reach in to Victorian businesses to dictate
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  Speaker 3: whether they can ask staff to come into the office.
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  Speaker 3: But it would be deeply inappropriate for the Premier to
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  Speaker 3: reach into a female prison and yank out a male
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  Speaker 3: sex offender. She'll regular you stove your office, even your
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  Speaker 3: holiday home. But God forbid, she should regulate whether male
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  Speaker 3: sex offenders should share cells with women.
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  Speaker 5: Let's be clear, there are strict and clear guidelines within
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  Speaker 5: which corrections Victoria operate, and that includes the safety and
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  Speaker 5: wellbeing of all prisoners when it comes to the placement
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  Speaker 5: of individual prisoners.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Jacinta Allen, Let's be clear, you're a complete fraud
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to caring about Victorian women. Who cares
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  Speaker 3: that you've got a record number of women in your
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  Speaker 3: cabinet when you've got men in your female prison. Well, Israel,
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  Speaker 3: the people accused of ongoing genocide in Gaza have signed
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  Speaker 3: a deal to stop the war. And Tomas, the leaders
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  Speaker 3: of those supposedly experiencing the genocide, Ah, they're going to
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  Speaker 3: take a few days to have a think about whether
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  Speaker 3: or not stopping the genocide on the terms suggested by
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  Speaker 3: Trump would actually benefit them. Honestly, you couldn't make this up.
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  Speaker 3: What happened to stop the genocide?
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  Speaker 7: Now?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe Harmas is waiting for Greta Tunberg's flotilla to arrive.
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  Speaker 3: Sadly for them, Greta and a glad bag of virtue
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  Speaker 3: signaling tourists were intercepted this morning by Israel's navy.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Israeli Navy. You are approaching a blockheaded zone.
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  Speaker 2: If you wish to deliver aid to Gayza. You may
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  Speaker 2: do so through the established channels. Please change your course
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  Speaker 2: toward the port of a stater where the aid will
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  Speaker 2: undergo a security inspection and then be transferred into the
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  Speaker 2: Gaza Strip.
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  Speaker 4: Gretaan are ship of fools.
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  Speaker 3: Ignored the message because well, it's never been about delivering
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  Speaker 3: humanitarian aid to Palestinians. In fact, the flotilla group reportedly
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  Speaker 3: refused an offer by Italy to unload the ships in
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  Speaker 3: Cyprus and have the Vatican distribute the aid in Gaza.
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  Speaker 3: If they cared about getting aid to Gaza, they'd be
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  Speaker 3: urging Hamas to accept the Peace Steel, which guarantees immediate
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  Speaker 3: aid to Gaza. But the Palestinians aren't the victims. No, No,
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  Speaker 3: Greta is the victim.
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  Speaker 1: My name is gibchin May. I'm a citizen of Sweden.
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  Speaker 1: If you are watching this video.
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  Speaker 8: I have been abducted and taken against my will by
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  Speaker 8: Israeli corses. Our humanitarian mission was nonviolent and abiding by
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  Speaker 8: international law. Please tell my government to demand my and
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  Speaker 8: the other's immediate release.
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  Speaker 1: Abducted.
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  Speaker 4: This is abducted.
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  Speaker 3: Greta Tunberg while she was handed a bottle of water
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  Speaker 3: by a soldier and helped with her rain jacket before
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  Speaker 3: being removed from a ship to be taken to an
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  Speaker 3: Israeli port and sent home. Like I said, there's a
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  Speaker 3: peace deal on the table waiting for the governing body
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  Speaker 3: in Gaza to sign. I guess the masses hesitating for
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  Speaker 3: the same reason. Pro Palestinian groups here have denounced the
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  Speaker 3: peace plan.
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  Speaker 4: If peace breaks out, what.
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  Speaker 3: Will the mass or protesters in the West for that matter,
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  Speaker 3: have to do. Palestine Action Group announced last night that
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  Speaker 3: on October twelve they will march to the Sydney Opera
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  Speaker 3: House to mark two years of genocide. Today they issued
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  Speaker 3: New South Wales Police a formal notice of intention to
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  Speaker 3: hold a public assembly at the Opera House. They called
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  Speaker 3: on Sydney siders to join and by quote the massive
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  Speaker 3: mobilization demanding an edd to genocide in Gaza on the
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  Speaker 3: National Day of Action. What they don't have to demand
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  Speaker 3: and end to the genocide in Gaza And there's no
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  Speaker 3: need for a national Day of action ten days from now.
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  Speaker 3: Hamas have a peace deal on the table ready to
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  Speaker 3: sign today. These guys demand peace and when peace is
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  Speaker 3: offered they respond by demanding peace. And when you tell
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  Speaker 3: them there's a peace deal, they reply, no, we want
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  Speaker 3: a peace deal. It's almost like they want something other
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  Speaker 3: than peace. Here's a clue, the group also said, and
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  Speaker 3: again I'm quoting.
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  Speaker 4: Seven.
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  Speaker 3: October twenty twenty five marks two years since Israel launched
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  Speaker 3: its genocidal campaign against the Palestinian people, a campaign which
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  Speaker 3: continues to escalate under the protection of Western governments, including
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  Speaker 3: the Australian government. I tell you what, they would be
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  Speaker 3: funny if they weren't so despicable. October seven was not
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  Speaker 3: the day Israel launched anything. October seven was the day
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  Speaker 3: swarms of terrorists, aided and abtted by Palestinian civilians, swarmed
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  Speaker 3: into Israel, slaughtering more than a thousand Jews and taking hundreds,
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  Speaker 3: including babies, hostage. Stein Action Group pretend October seven was
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  Speaker 3: when Israel launched a genocide. Just shows you how perverted
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  Speaker 3: they are. I wonder if ed Husick and Bob Carr
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  Speaker 3: and Marine Feruki and others will now disassociate themselves.
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  Speaker 4: From these clowns.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if many of the ninety thousand Australians who
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  Speaker 3: joined Palestine Action Group's March for Humanity will not now
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  Speaker 3: be ruining the decision. So many useful idiots. It was
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  Speaker 3: never a march for humanity. If they cared a jot
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  Speaker 3: about humanity, they'd be urging a musk to sign the
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  Speaker 3: peace deal and end the war. Instead, it's a case
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  Speaker 3: of what do we want? End the genocide? When do
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  Speaker 3: we want it? Will wait a second. If we end
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  Speaker 3: the genocide now, does Israel win? Opposition leader Susan Lee
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  Speaker 3: today finally did the job of the Prime Minister, saying
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  Speaker 3: quote on a day when the Australian Jewish community will
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  Speaker 3: be coming together to mark the largest loss of life
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  Speaker 3: since the Holocaust. The fact that these activists will continue
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  Speaker 3: to sew division and tear AT's social cohesion is disgusting
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  Speaker 3: but not surprising. The Sydney Opera House belongs to all Australians,
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  Speaker 3: not activists and protesters. We must resist these efforts to
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  Speaker 3: use it as a symbol to sew division, and.
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  Speaker 4: Susan Lee is right.
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  Speaker 3: The protesters don't want peace in Gaza and they'll never
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  Speaker 3: give us peace either. We'll joining me now, is National's
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  Speaker 3: MP Barnaby. Joyce Barnaby, thanks for joining me on the program,
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  Speaker 3: nissuth As Premier Chris Mins has said he'll leave it
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  Speaker 3: up to police to respond to Palestine Action Group about
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  Speaker 3: whether or not they can stage what is clearly a
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  Speaker 3: deliberately provocative protest at the Opera House on October twelve.
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  Speaker 4: Is that good enough? No, it's not.
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  Speaker 9: What we have to do is make sure we remove
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  Speaker 9: from Australia the capacity for those who support Hamas to
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  Speaker 9: have their because that's what it is. Ultimately, what you
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  Speaker 9: see is support of the mask. You invent your life.
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  Speaker 9: If they're allowed to have this demonstration of the Opera House,
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  Speaker 9: You'll see her mass banners, You'll see Isis banners, You'll
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  Speaker 9: see Taliban banners, You'll see pictures of the I tol
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  Speaker 9: Hermione with a kalashnikov. And this is what's it got
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  Speaker 9: to remember the Australian soldiers fought against this, They fought
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  Speaker 9: against Isis, they fought against the Taliban. I mean, we
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  Speaker 9: don't go celebrating the people who've tried to kill Australian soldiers.
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  Speaker 9: We just can remember that, even putting Israel aside, everything
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  Speaker 9: else aside, just be very aware as an Australian we
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  Speaker 9: don't celebrate and have demonstrations, allow people to put their
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  Speaker 9: non neclatcher all over Sydney, Harbor Bridge and the opera
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  Speaker 9: house and at the same time ipso facto support people
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  Speaker 9: who were shooting an Australian soldiers.
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  Speaker 7: If there's nothing else you think about, just think about that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, very good point.
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  Speaker 3: I want to get your opinion of the spouse between
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  Speaker 3: BHP and China. There's growing pressure on the Albanezi government
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  Speaker 3: to intervene. Jim Chalmers says, hey, it's a matter between
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  Speaker 3: two private companies. Is that good enough for the government
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  Speaker 3: to be so hands off considering what this is worth
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  Speaker 3: to the Australian economy?
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  Speaker 7: Well, what was work? What we get out of mister
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  Speaker 7: Albanezi going to China?
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  Speaker 10: This?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it's just going to show you the sort
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  Speaker 7: of flawed approach.
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  Speaker 9: We've got to understand that China is a hotel tearan
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  Speaker 9: regime and it's very very powerful. And the more power
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  Speaker 9: they get, and the more they can extract the power
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  Speaker 9: and they can more they can turn us into basically
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  Speaker 9: a supplican state, the more they'll do precisely that I mean,
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  Speaker 9: that is basically I'm just.
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  Speaker 7: Going to do. That is basically what this is about.
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  Speaker 9: You know, And we've got to we've got to make
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  Speaker 9: sure that this is what happens when people ring you
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  Speaker 9: up in the middle of the riddle of a call.
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  Speaker 9: This is basically what we've got to understand. This is
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  Speaker 9: the future for Australia. More and more the pressure will
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  Speaker 9: be on our throat, more and more Communi China will
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  Speaker 9: have the capacity to have a determination on how our
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  Speaker 9: nation works. And our job is to become as strong
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  Speaker 9: as possible, as quickly as possible. Instead where this manic,
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  Speaker 9: crazy approach to net zero and other sort of butterfly
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  Speaker 9: chasing ideas that are making us weaker. This is this
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  Speaker 9: is a precursor for the future of Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Be aware of.
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  Speaker 3: That, well, Barnaby speaking of net zero and climate change
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  Speaker 3: and all associated topics. As you know, the Albanezi government
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  Speaker 3: is jostling with Turkey over who should host the next
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  Speaker 3: UN Climate conference. It's being reported today that a deal
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  Speaker 3: may have been reached. But have a listen to the deal.
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  Speaker 3: Turkey and Australia will co host the conference. So what
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  Speaker 3: do you think of a conference where delegates talk about
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  Speaker 3: reducing emissions while flying twelve thousand kilometers back and forth
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  Speaker 3: between sessions.
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  Speaker 7: It's immoral.
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  Speaker 9: It's immoral, it's not there's nothing renewable about renewable, it's
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  Speaker 9: intermittent power. It's a scam, It's an absolute scam. Their
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  Speaker 9: role gold annuities for billionaires to get a guaranteed return
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  Speaker 9: from the Australian taxpayer so that billionaires can become multiple billionaires.
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  Speaker 9: Where companies such as BP and Petross are part of
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  Speaker 9: this scam. And not only that, we're going to pay
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  Speaker 9: for these scam artists, for these billionaires to take their
• 16:21
  Speaker 9: corporate tests to Australia and have a well of an
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  Speaker 9: old time, a great time, great time on the Australian payer,
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  Speaker 9: taxpayer's ticket. Why pensioners can't afford their power bill, Why
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  Speaker 9: people are becoming poorer, Why Australians are basically being pushed
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  Speaker 9: into their cars while we're becoming weaker.
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  Speaker 7: We've just had the illumina.
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  Speaker 9: Refinery in Kiwana and Western Australia closing down. Now we
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  Speaker 9: have the power plant in Gladstone saying they're giving notice
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  Speaker 9: that they may close down, which is the illumina, our
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  Speaker 9: industry in Gladstone, the concrete industry, the electrification of the railway.
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  Speaker 7: Lines, our coll eating facilities.
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  Speaker 1: This is insane.
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  Speaker 9: We're down to two our refineries, record insolvencies in small
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  Speaker 9: business won't.
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  Speaker 7: Our steel industry is on its knees. They're all acquiring
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  Speaker 7: subsidies time ago once they open. Unless they get subsidies.
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  Speaker 7: What do you want to do to yourself?
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  Speaker 9: Are you completely out of your brain supporting this kind
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  Speaker 9: of rubbish? I mean, when are you going to realize
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  Speaker 9: connections to China that if you don't become strong, your children,
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  Speaker 9: not you, because it's too selfish to care, but your children,
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  Speaker 9: I don't live with a foot on their throat.
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  Speaker 7: Does that matter anything to you anymore?
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to take that as a rhetorical question, barnaby,
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  Speaker 3: because I think the answer is and we all know
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter to them. Thanks so much for your
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  Speaker 3: time tonight. Appreciate your joining me. We're going to go
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  Speaker 3: to a break. Coming up, warnings that labors push to
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  Speaker 3: have us all driving electric cars will make the cost
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: of environmentally friendly cars actually go up. Plus, the UK
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  Speaker 3: government has spent a billion pounds turning wind turbines off.
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  Speaker 3: If you think that's mad, wait until you find out why.
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  Speaker 3: The Australian's Environment editor Graham Lloyd joins me, next, Well,
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  Speaker 3: you've heard it a thousand times, haven't you. Renewable energy
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  Speaker 3: is the cheapest.
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  Speaker 4: Form of energy.
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  Speaker 3: And if you believe that, I've got a wind turbine
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  Speaker 3: to sell you. The UK Times is reporting that the
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  Speaker 3: British government has spent a billion pounds this year turning
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  Speaker 3: wind turbines off.
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  Speaker 4: Why well, because.
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  Speaker 3: The wind needed to power the wind turbines was too
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  Speaker 3: windy and the amount of electricity being generated was threatening
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  Speaker 3: to overwhelm the grid. But if you're worried about the
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  Speaker 3: government's money going up in a puff of irony, don't worry.
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  Speaker 3: The government's money is absolutely safe. The cost will be
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  Speaker 3: passed on to consumers via their power bills. Joining me
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  Speaker 3: now is The Australian's Environment editor Graham. Lloyd Graham. You
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  Speaker 3: could not make this stuff up.
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  Speaker 11: No, that tried, James. You couldn't make it up. But
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  Speaker 11: you could see it coming. I mean, this has been
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  Speaker 11: a slow burn in the UK for many years and
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  Speaker 11: we're probably five years behind what's been happening over there.
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  Speaker 11: In the rush to get these developments, the government agreed
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  Speaker 11: to subsidy programs that included paying the wind turbines not
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  Speaker 11: to operate when they're not needed. And if you look
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  Speaker 11: at the local situation in Australia, you hear a lot
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  Speaker 11: about the thread of wind droughts when the wind stops
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  Speaker 11: blowing and there's no power, and the answer to that,
• 19:28
  Speaker 11: apparently is to spread wind turbines far and wide on
• 19:33
  Speaker 11: the basis that the wind will always be blowing somewhere.
• 19:37
  Speaker 11: The other side of the coin is what happens when
• 19:39
  Speaker 11: it blows everywhere, all at the same time. And under
• 19:43
  Speaker 11: the capacity investment scheme and other things, we're guaranteeing the
• 19:47
  Speaker 11: profitability of things that are built, so sure as night
• 19:51
  Speaker 11: follows day, we will be in the same position as
• 19:54
  Speaker 11: the UK in the not too distant future.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: So just help understand what happened in the UK. I
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: understand they built a lot of their wind turbines in
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Scotland where it's incredibly windy. But of course the transmission
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: lines that are required to convert and distribute that power
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: from the wind turbines to the country is not sufficient
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: to take the amount of electricity that's being generated, and
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: so for that reason they've had to turn them.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Off on windy days.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: And even when they are operating, they can't have them
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: operate at full capacity because again it would crash the system.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Have I got that right?
• 20:35
  Speaker 11: That right? And it's a situation that we're having the
• 20:39
  Speaker 11: debate here about having to build transmission lines everywhere so
• 20:42
  Speaker 11: these renewable projects can connect and the system is strong enough.
• 20:47
  Speaker 11: And the situation in Scotland is there were very very
• 20:50
  Speaker 11: generous payments for landholders to host these things on their land.
• 20:57
  Speaker 11: So of course although the landed gentry with the big states,
• 21:00
  Speaker 11: they all filled the place up with wind turbines, which
• 21:03
  Speaker 11: you see Donald Trump and others complaining about incessantly.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Has spoiled the view.
• 21:08
  Speaker 11: But that was a self interest on the part of
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: landholders and now they're really everybody's seeking the money for
• 21:16
  Speaker 11: things that can't get into the system, but the government's
• 21:19
  Speaker 11: still paying.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: And of course, as I said, that cost being transferred
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: to people via their electricity bills. So electricity bills are
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: going up in order for you to not use renewable energy.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: It's an absolute joke, speaking of which we shouldn't laugh
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: at the britsk because we've got our own renewable circus
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: going on right here at home. Car giant Honda is
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: warning that the government's twenty thirty five missions target announced recently,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: which to achieve will require half of all new cars
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: sold over the next decade to be evs. Well, apparently
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: the government's plan is going to end up pushing the
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: price of petrol and hybrid cars up. And I guess
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: the irony here is that the price of hybrid cars
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: will rise. They're the very cars that most Australians who
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: want to reduce vehicle missions would drive, can afford to
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: drive because of course they also offer the ability to
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: go longer distances where you don't have charging facilities. So
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: can you explain to me why this looks set to happen.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Why is the government's plan going to cause the price
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: not just of petrol vehicles but hybrid vehicles, which I
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: would have thought they're encouraging to actually rise.
• 22:32
  Speaker 11: Well, the Honda has decided that Australian buyers are not
• 22:38
  Speaker 11: taking to evs, so they're more likely to take up
• 22:41
  Speaker 11: hybrid vehicles. They can put petrol in as well, but
• 22:46
  Speaker 11: the government doesn't agree. The government has said no, everybody
• 22:49
  Speaker 11: has to have an electric vehicle and to meet the standards,
• 22:52
  Speaker 11: half of all new cars have to be electric, and
• 22:55
  Speaker 11: to try and encourage it, the government has introduced a
• 22:57
  Speaker 11: scheme where car makers, when they sell vehicles, have to
• 23:02
  Speaker 11: have an average emissions over their fleet. If they exceed
• 23:07
  Speaker 11: those emissions on average, they have to pay a penalty,
• 23:12
  Speaker 11: and that rewards the companies that are ev onlies, if
• 23:17
  Speaker 11: you like, because they don't have to balance their petrol
• 23:20
  Speaker 11: cars against the others. Honda is really arguing at Spook.
• 23:23
  Speaker 11: It's saying, well, we're doing EVS, we're halfway there. We
• 23:26
  Speaker 11: shouldn't suffer the same penalty. But I think the bigger
• 23:29
  Speaker 11: issue is what's going to happen to the price of
• 23:33
  Speaker 11: a petrol and diesel cars when these averaging schemes come in.
• 23:39
  Speaker 11: And if you look at other places in the world Norway,
• 23:41
  Speaker 11: for instance, where Matt Kean keeps her using as an
• 23:45
  Speaker 11: example of a big take up for EVS, the cost
• 23:48
  Speaker 11: of non electric cars there are prohibitively expensive, and that's
• 23:53
  Speaker 11: really the way that they encourage people to go electric.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Honda point out that if people just stay with the
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: cars they've got because they can't afford to upgrade, then
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: that's bad for missions too, because the older the vehicle,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: the worse it is with the missions. So Chris Bowen
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: just keeps being hit on the head of the unintended consequences,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: doesn't it.
• 24:17
  Speaker 11: He does, And I think the analysis on that is interesting.
• 24:21
  Speaker 11: If you keep a car for a long time, you're
• 24:24
  Speaker 11: avoiding having to build a new one, which is incredibly
• 24:27
  Speaker 11: emissions intensive. So I think keeping an old car might
• 24:32
  Speaker 11: release more out of the tailpipe, but on a net
• 24:34
  Speaker 11: basis is probably a good thing.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Very good point. All right.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you about the coalition who have
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: now indicated they will probably readopt nuclear power as part
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: of their energy policy. His shadow Energy Minister Dan teen,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: who's just returned from a fact finding mission in the US.
• 24:53
  Speaker 12: That there is a nuclear renaissance taking place in the
• 24:57
  Speaker 12: US and that is basically also happening.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Around the globe.
• 25:03
  Speaker 12: You will have seen while I was away there was
• 25:05
  Speaker 12: that nuclear agreement that was signed between the US and
• 25:09
  Speaker 12: the UK, obviously our key ORCUS partners. If we're to
• 25:14
  Speaker 12: meaningfully make any impact when it comes to global emissions reduction,
• 25:20
  Speaker 12: then nuclear has to be part of the equation going forward,
• 25:23
  Speaker 12: and we've got to be able to grow this proven technology.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Ram I feel like most of us listened to that
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: and went uh huh uh huh.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: So I guess my question.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: To you is, did the collision really need Danteine to
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: fly to America and spend months working out that nuclear
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: power is helpful.
• 25:46
  Speaker 11: Well, I think look overseas that the real money is
• 25:51
  Speaker 11: pouring into nuclear It's probably good that Dantee or anybody
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: goes and sees the serious way that this technology is developing.
• 26:01
  Speaker 11: It's highly political here. It's something for the future. It's
• 26:05
  Speaker 11: ridiculous that we're not even allowed to think about it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 11: And I think Danteen has just given us a reminder
• 26:10
  Speaker 11: that in the US, in the UK and other places,
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: the advances really to power a future of artificial intelligence
• 26:18
  Speaker 11: and other things.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: That's where the action is.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Rahm Lloyd, I always very much enjoy talking to you.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: It's always very informative and I appreciate you joining me tonight.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Thanks so much.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: We'll stick around because after the break not so shocking
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: revelations that former US President Joe Biden used reminder note
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: cards in public to help him remember top Democrats like
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton, plus the number of Americans who've been claiming
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: asylum in Australia to get away from the Trump administration
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: is quite surprising.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: All of that just a moment. Well.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Governments continually tell us that child safety is their highest priority,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: as well it should be, but is it really or
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: are they willing to compromise child safety in order to
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: save a bit of money. What seems that's what's happened
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: in Queensland, where the Department of Child Safety knowingly launched
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: a faulty IT system because they didn't want to spend
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: more money and time developing it.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: A new data system was launched in.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: April, despite being so faulty that reports of children at
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: risk of being harmed were not making it through to
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: the department, putting thousands of lives at risk. Today that
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Apartments Director General Belinda Drew told an estimates hearing that
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: apartment knew the system was riddled with errors, but launched
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: it anyway. She told the Estimates Committee, and I quote
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: there were some concerns related to data and functionality, but
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: we did not have the option to endlessly work on
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: the system.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: The decision was made to go live.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: We don't have the ability to go back to the
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: old system, and we don't have the ability to create
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: magically a new system. We must make this system function
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: as was intended. Are going to tell you the writers
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: of Yes Minister would be blushing. Joining me now is
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: former Labor Senator Stephen Conroy and Skyney's contributor Evelyn Ray.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Evelyn.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: If a childcare center knowingly launched a faulty system that
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: compromised the data, not to mention put it risk the
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: safety of kids, I reckon, the government would close them
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: down in a heartbeat and the operators would be run
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: out of town.
• 28:29
  Speaker 13: We've seen this time and time again. You see it
• 28:32
  Speaker 13: with politicians with governments where they do basic and also
• 28:37
  Speaker 13: big mistakes and things that you and I and everyday
• 28:40
  Speaker 13: Australians would lose our jobs for and perhaps even end
• 28:43
  Speaker 13: us up in prison. And yet where's the accountability. I mean,
• 28:46
  Speaker 13: one thing that we know for sure that the government
• 28:49
  Speaker 13: excels at more than absolutely anything is wasting money.
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: And one thing I fully support.
• 28:55
  Speaker 13: Is trying to cut down on the wasting of money
• 28:57
  Speaker 13: as much as possible. But when it comes to sixteen
• 29:02
  Speaker 13: thousand vulnerable children, that is most certainly not the way
• 29:07
  Speaker 13: to go about that.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: We need to do better.
• 29:09
  Speaker 13: In fact, we have to do better, and it would
• 29:12
  Speaker 13: seem I think most Astrames would agree at this point
• 29:14
  Speaker 13: in time that we are being governed by the worst
• 29:17
  Speaker 13: that Australia has to offer. And at the moment we
• 29:21
  Speaker 13: also have this very same government who have put vulnerable
• 29:24
  Speaker 13: children at.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Risk, telling us to trust them to give.
• 29:27
  Speaker 13: Handover our identification, our digital ID, and everything will be fine.
• 29:32
  Speaker 13: The government will take care of us, They'll be protected.
• 29:35
  Speaker 13: It's absolutely ludicrous at this point in time that we
• 29:37
  Speaker 13: take anything that the current government say as truth, and
• 29:41
  Speaker 13: all of us should be quite terrified. It's a very
• 29:43
  Speaker 13: timely reminder right now that every single thing the government
• 29:47
  Speaker 13: seemed to touch turns to absolute trash.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Stephen, of course government was much better when you were involved,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: and I want to get your opinion as a former
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: government minister. Does a story like this where the department
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: we're developing an IT system, but they knew, Look it's
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: not quite ready yet and we're running out of budget,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: we're running out of time. Let's make it go live
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: and we'll fix up the problems as we go. Does
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: a story like that having been a government minister, surprise.
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: You, no, Look, that's a horrifying circumstance. I mean, when
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: a public servant gives an answer like that, you know
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: that the minister has ticked off on it. All of
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: the briefs go through the minister's office for an estimatest
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: committee like that, So it's quite bizarre in terms of
• 30:43
  Speaker 10: who's accountable for this. I mean the public servant's cleric
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: are accountable, but the minister ticked off on launching it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: It isn't inconceivable.
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: And I mean in Queensland, my memory is a former
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: Ueen Islam's labor minister had an IT system for paying
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: in hospitals and it failed and ultimately I think it
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: cost him his job. So I think there's got to
• 31:15
  Speaker 10: be accountability to public or demand accountability Ruth. Most of,
• 31:19
  Speaker 10: if not all, of what everyone said. It is unacceptable
• 31:21
  Speaker 10: to put vulnerable kids.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: At risk like this.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you about Anthony Alberineese's much herald
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: defense deal between PARPA New Guinea and Australia. It's finally
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: been approved by the P and G government and is
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: expected to be formally signed within the week. Stephen, this
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: is good news for Australia, isn't it?
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: Look it is very good news. I mean, this is
• 31:47
  Speaker 10: an agreement that begins to keep China out of Papular Guinea.
• 31:53
  Speaker 10: As you can said, China very aggressive in a number
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: of islands across the specific at the moment, and they
• 31:59
  Speaker 10: were putting pressure on PAPU MC Guinea as well. So
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: it is it is a great achievement, it's an important achievement,
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: but it isn't the only island We've got to do.
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: We've got to keep working closely where the natural ally
• 32:15
  Speaker 10: natural partner have the Pacific Islands. But China have extensive resources,
• 32:21
  Speaker 10: lots of money that can promise, lots of money that
• 32:25
  Speaker 10: can end up in people's bank accounts, promises of jobs,
• 32:29
  Speaker 10: and this is a great outcome, and we've just got
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: to keep constantly being vigilant about what China is attempting
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: to achieve in the Pacific.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, all right.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I spoke at the top of the show about Jaciner
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Ellen refusing to weigh in on the placement of a
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: male sex offender in a female prison the man identifies
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: as female. Let me just remind you of what the
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Victorian Premier said when asked about it today.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: I think it would be deeply inappropriate for any member
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: of Parliament, minister or Premier of the day to be
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: reaching in to Corrections Victoria and directing the placement of
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: any prisoner across the prison system. So let's be clear
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: there are strict and clear guidelines within which Corrections Victoria
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: operate and that includes the safety and wellbeing of all
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: prisoners when it comes to the placement of individual prisoners.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Evan, I want to get to you in just a moment,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: but I want to start with Stephen because I'm really
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: keen to understand as a politician, why won't you, Sinta
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Allen just admit the obvious. I think any normal person
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: would agree this is not right, but she will not
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: come out and speak to the issue.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Why is that? And is it good politics? Let alone?
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Is it standing up for truth?
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 33:53
  Speaker 10: Do you give you an example of what people think
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: of the politics. Nicolas Sturgeon the first Minister of Scotland
• 34:03
  Speaker 10: Scottish National Party. They were very, very heavily in favor
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: of trans rights and she absolutely staunchly support it trans
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: individuals going into female prisons and ultimately she backed down,
• 34:28
  Speaker 10: she accepted the broad public mood and it was the
• 34:31
  Speaker 10: beginning of the end politically for her. So I don't
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: think the Premier can just say this is a policy
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: of the prisons system. This is a government department. Minister
• 34:46
  Speaker 10: set the policy, Cabinet sets the policy. You can't just
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: simply say this is not our responsibility. Nothing to do
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: with us. We don't move individual prisons around, but now
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: the government ultimately bears responses ability for the policy framework
• 35:03
  Speaker 10: with which the prison system is operated under. So I
• 35:08
  Speaker 10: think this is one where the government should consider the policy.
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: They don't have to reflect on any individuals, but the
• 35:15
  Speaker 10: government should revisit and reconsider the policy framework.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you, Evelyn, what is the good
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: of having a female premier and a female deputy premier
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: if neither of those females are willing to stand up
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: for females.
• 35:35
  Speaker 13: You're one hundred percent right, James, And it's just another
• 35:38
  Speaker 13: clear example of the hierarchy of ideologies. You know, women's
• 35:43
  Speaker 13: safety and any human beings safety in fact, should never
• 35:46
  Speaker 13: take a back seat to any ideological movement. That's a
• 35:50
  Speaker 13: sign that there's a big problem happening within that particular society.
• 35:54
  Speaker 13: I mean, it's twenty twenty five and we have politicians
• 35:57
  Speaker 13: who can't or absolutely refused to even define what a
• 36:02
  Speaker 13: woman is. This is like some sort of dystopian nightmare.
• 36:05
  Speaker 13: The fact that these simple questions that five year olds
• 36:08
  Speaker 13: could answer only last week are now being dodged and
• 36:11
  Speaker 13: diverted by the people who are supposed to be leading
• 36:14
  Speaker 13: us and helping us to prosper and to keep us safe.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: You know, I think you.
• 36:17
  Speaker 13: Know, things like this though don't happen overnight, James. These
• 36:20
  Speaker 13: are little incremental compromises that happen over a period of time.
• 36:25
  Speaker 13: First you desensitize the masses to these ideologies, and then
• 36:28
  Speaker 13: eventually they become normalized. And what began as you know,
• 36:32
  Speaker 13: accepting and kind of shrugging off pronouns kind of ended
• 36:36
  Speaker 13: with us having to accept you know, three legged unicorns
• 36:39
  Speaker 13: as people identifying as And now what we're seeing at
• 36:42
  Speaker 13: end on is people who are convicted of heinous crimes
• 36:47
  Speaker 13: being placed in women's prisons. That's the reality of it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 13: But the sad part and the most terrifying part about
• 36:53
  Speaker 13: this is that isn't the end, is that it actually
• 36:56
  Speaker 13: gets worse from here. We think that, you know, vulnerable
• 37:00
  Speaker 13: people being exposed to this is where it ends, but
• 37:03
  Speaker 13: it doesn't. It's going to come outside of prisons, and
• 37:06
  Speaker 13: it's going to affect the most vulnerable within schools, within
• 37:10
  Speaker 13: different programs, within everyday things in society. That's where it ends.
• 37:14
  Speaker 13: And that's why we can't compromise on things. Every little
• 37:18
  Speaker 13: thing matters at the beginning because sadly this is the
• 37:20
  Speaker 13: result of where that will finish.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: And just back to Stephen Conroy earlier, I absolutely agree
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: with you, Steveen. The anger over this is white hot,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: and I think if Jacinta Ellen doesn't change very quickly
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: on this, she's going to be punished for it at
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: the box.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Can we lighten things up a little bit?
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: I'd like to, So let's go to Joe Biden, because
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: that always makes me smile. It's been revealed that Biden
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: when he was president, used note cards with names and
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: photos of prominent Democrats.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: To help him remember them.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: He even had a photo of Hillary Clinton with her
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: name on it, just to jog his memory. Steve, and
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: I'm actually jealous of Joe Biden because most of us
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: can't forget Hillary Clinton no matter how hard we try.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 38:10
  Speaker 10: Clearly, there was a period towards the end of his
• 38:13
  Speaker 10: presidency where he really was in decline. And I'm sure
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: we've all experienced circumstances of our loved ones where there's
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: a moment where you begin to see that decline, and
• 38:28
  Speaker 10: it can sometimes be slow, it can sometimes be very fast.
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: So I think, clearly, Joe Biden, who I've met and
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: I love meeting him, and he really is as nice
• 38:38
  Speaker 10: a guy as he seems on television. But it is
• 38:43
  Speaker 10: I think increasingly clear that that decline began at some moments,
• 38:48
  Speaker 10: and there it was absolutely appropriate he decided not to
• 38:52
  Speaker 10: reconsider running again. Whether the Democrats made the right trital
• 38:56
  Speaker 10: history shows they didn't, but I think this all, you know,
• 39:03
  Speaker 10: we can laugh about it. It's also as a sad
• 39:05
  Speaker 10: sight as well, and we've all experienced situations where relatives
• 39:09
  Speaker 10: and loved ones go into decline. Sometimes it's faster than others.
• 39:13
  Speaker 10: But yes, I mean you do bring a right smile
• 39:17
  Speaker 10: to say that the president needed assistance like that during
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: a campaign or a speech.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Stephen, We've all experienced loved ones, you know, declining. It's
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: just that none of them were the leader of the
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: free world at the time. Everly, sorry, I've got to
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  Speaker 3: go to a break, so I'm not going to get
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  Speaker 3: to you on that one. But I always really enjoy
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  Speaker 3: talking to both of you and appreciate you giving me
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  Speaker 3: your time tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks so much. Well, we're going to go to.
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  Speaker 3: A break when we come back. Days after Labor derided.
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  Speaker 3: Nigel Farj is a Nazi supporter who hates Britain. He's
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  Speaker 3: had his security detail cut. Can you believe that? We're
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  Speaker 3: go live to London with gb News host Patrick Christie's
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  Speaker 3: after this.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to the program.
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  Speaker 3: We're going live to London now to talk with Patrick
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  Speaker 3: Christie's from GB News and Patrick breaking news out of
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  Speaker 3: the UK. I believe there's been a mess, stebbing and
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  Speaker 3: a synagogue.
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  Speaker 4: What can you tell us?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely devastating news. Is Jon Kapoor.
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  Speaker 14: It's one of, if not the holiest day in the
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  Speaker 14: Jewish calendar, and there's a synagogue in Manchester and the
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  Speaker 14: reports are that a car has driven towards people outside
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  Speaker 14: that synagogue, struck them, and then.
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  Speaker 1: A man got out of that car and.
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  Speaker 14: Began attempting to stab people. One person has definitely been stabbed.
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  Speaker 14: Several other people have been injured as a result of
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  Speaker 14: the car driving into them.
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  Speaker 1: Now that man was shot by police.
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  Speaker 14: He's believed to still be alive, although were waiting for
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  Speaker 14: confirmation on that.
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  Speaker 1: There's no clear motive At the moment.
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  Speaker 14: We don't know exactly who this person is or exactly
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  Speaker 14: what their motivation was. However, this just shows you know
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  Speaker 14: how devastating the times are that we are living in
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  Speaker 14: just give you a little bit of context. Actually, Manchester
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  Speaker 14: has i believe the second highest population of Jews in
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  Speaker 14: Britain after near where I am actually now in London.
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  Speaker 14: And you know, unfortunately you have to say that this
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  Speaker 14: has all the hallmarks of terrorist attacks that we have
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  Speaker 14: seen in the past, people using a vehicle to drive
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  Speaker 14: into members of the public and then get out and
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  Speaker 14: try to commit some kind of marauding stabbing attack. I'll
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  Speaker 14: just emphasize again at the moment there's been no confirmation
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  Speaker 14: of any fatalities, and that includes the person believed to
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  Speaker 14: be responsible for this. Armed police were on the scene
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  Speaker 14: in just a matter of minutes, and it is just
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  Speaker 14: that four people have been injured, at one of them
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  Speaker 14: we believe at this stage anyway to be stabbed. It's
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  Speaker 14: literally happening kind of right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fast moving picture.
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  Speaker 14: We only just got which has got news of it
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  Speaker 14: just just minutes before I sat down here to do
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  Speaker 14: this interview. So absolutely devastating scenes. And look, you know,
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  Speaker 14: obviously our hearts go to everyone who's been injured in this,
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  Speaker 14: and we hope that they make a speedy recovery. But
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  Speaker 14: I mean, this will absolutely send shockwaves, so not to
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  Speaker 14: the Jewish community frankly, but everybody. We're already on very
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  Speaker 14: much high alerts here in Britain, as I'm sure that
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  Speaker 14: you are in Australia as well, and unfortunately it does
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  Speaker 14: look us though this is another another devastating attack.
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  Speaker 3: Really, just to be clear, you said that the alleged
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  Speaker 3: offender was shot by police, is still alive, and I
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  Speaker 3: presume obviously in custody.
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  Speaker 14: I get that right, well, in hospital, yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 14: that's what we're getting at at the moment. And so
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  Speaker 14: it looks as though that police were called shortly after
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  Speaker 14: nine thirty am UK time, and then the suspect appears
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  Speaker 14: to have been shot about ten minutes later outside the synagogue.
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  Speaker 1: Again, just for a bit of context.
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  Speaker 14: That air and that part of Manchester has got a
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  Speaker 14: huge Jewish community and there's no doubt that there would
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  Speaker 14: have been a lot of Jewish people attempting to enter
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  Speaker 14: that synagogue at that moment of time. So it looks
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  Speaker 14: as though a car has been driven towards them and
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  Speaker 14: then a man has got out attempted to stab people randomly.
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  Speaker 14: The police were called, attended very quickly shot the suspect.
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  Speaker 14: He's been neutralized. They say now that the incident technically
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  Speaker 14: is over in terms of the immediate threats. However, you know,
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  Speaker 14: all of the questions are going to arise now and
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  Speaker 14: hopefully they can be answered in the coming moments. Really,
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  Speaker 14: which is what was this motivation, who was it, why
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  Speaker 14: did they do it? And hopefully hopefully this remains an
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  Speaker 14: incident with no fatalities for the victims.
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  Speaker 1: But we're just going to have to wait and see.
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  Speaker 14: I mean, yeah, I mean we're looking at the scene
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  Speaker 14: there actually aren't we now, I think where you've got
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  Speaker 14: ambulance because it has been declared a major incident, huge
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  Speaker 14: numbers of paramedics, fire brigade police officers. The fact that
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  Speaker 14: the armed police were there the scene so quickly as well,
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  Speaker 14: just indicates how seriously everybody was taking it. Look, it
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  Speaker 14: is very hard to believe, I think, let's be honest,
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  Speaker 14: that this is just some kind of random incident. I mean,
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  Speaker 14: the location of it and the timing of it would
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  Speaker 14: strongly indicate this was a deliberate attack on the Jewish
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  Speaker 14: community in Manchester.
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  Speaker 3: And Patrick, I'm just being told that the offender is
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  Speaker 3: now deceased, so right, That's what I'm being told. As
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  Speaker 3: we're having this discussion. So obviously this is a breaking
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  Speaker 3: story unfolding while we're talking, and here on Sky will
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  Speaker 3: bring you further details throughout the night as things become clearer,
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  Speaker 3: but obviously absolutely devastating, not just for the Jewish community
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  Speaker 3: in the UK, but for everybody in Britain. No one
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  Speaker 3: wants to see things like this. Just on the topic
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  Speaker 3: of violence in the UK, Patrick, I want to ask
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  Speaker 3: you about Nigel Farage because I was quite shocked at
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  Speaker 3: the UK Labor conference how Kirstarmer got up and and
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  Speaker 3: said Farage hates Britain, He's been accused of racism with
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  Speaker 3: his policies, and the Deputy PM got up and was asked
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  Speaker 3: is Starma a racist and refused to really answer the
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  Speaker 3: question and referred to the highly contestable charge that Farage
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  Speaker 3: was once involved with the Nazi youth.
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  Speaker 4: I said, highly contestable. I think it's just absolute rubbish,
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  Speaker 4: not true.
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  Speaker 3: But in the midst of all of that we learned
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  Speaker 3: Forag's security detail has been dramatically cut. If something was
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  Speaker 3: to happen to Nigel Farage. I'm just wondering how liable
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  Speaker 3: would but the government demonizing him and then cutting his
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  Speaker 3: security detail.
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  Speaker 1: As far as reforming UK.
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  Speaker 14: Nigel franch concerned they would hold labor directly responsible. They
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  Speaker 14: how sad that they would say that this labor government would.
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  Speaker 1: Have blood on their hands.
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  Speaker 14: The situation was already pretty pivotal before, wasn't it, and
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  Speaker 14: pretty dangerous before then you had the Charlie Kirk assassination.
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  Speaker 14: Nigel Farange as well himself has previously had milkshakes thrown
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  Speaker 14: over him. He's a comedian, was said, jokes about throwing
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  Speaker 14: battery acid over him. I know for a fact that
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  Speaker 14: he's had death threats, he's had to up his security detail,
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  Speaker 14: and then to go and come out and start calling
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  Speaker 14: him a racist, saying that he's flirted with the Hitler youth,
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  Speaker 14: saying that he's dangerous, saying that he's quotes the enemy
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  Speaker 14: that we must fight. This appears to be a deliberate attempt.
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  Speaker 14: I would argue to put Nigel Farage's life at risk.
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  Speaker 14: And then you compound that with what we're seeing breaking
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  Speaker 14: right now in this country, which appears to be yet
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  Speaker 14: another terrorist People don't need any more encouragement, do they
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  Speaker 14: to go out and commit these kind of atrocities and
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  Speaker 14: put these kind of targets on people's backs. It's a
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  Speaker 14: very very, very dangerous concerning time and the labor government
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  Speaker 14: have not given any adequate justification as to whine this
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  Speaker 14: current climber. They would remove Nigel Farange's security by seventy
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  Speaker 14: five percent.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we're talking earlier in the program about
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  Speaker 3: the British government spin a billion pounds this year to
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  Speaker 3: not use wind turbines. You'd think they could afford a
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: little bit of security for Nigel Farage, whether you agree
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  Speaker 3: with his policies or not, just quickly before we finish
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  Speaker 3: the UK public how do they react to this technic
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  Speaker 3: by Stama, who's very unpopular as it is now playing
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  Speaker 3: the man rather than the ball. I can't imagine it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be successful for him. People are repelled by
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  Speaker 3: that kind of thing, are they not.
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  Speaker 14: People are sick and tired of being called far right
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  Speaker 14: and racist but just wanting to control immigration. It might
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  Speaker 14: have worked several years ago and that level of demonization,
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  Speaker 14: but it's just not working anymore because people look around
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  Speaker 14: and frankly they've absolutely had enough, whether it's to do
• 47:39
  Speaker 14: with terrorist at tanks or whether it's to do just
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  Speaker 14: with the amount of money that people like myself and
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  Speaker 14: everyone around us are paying for things like migrant hotels,
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  Speaker 14: et cetera. People are thinking, you know what that makes
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  Speaker 14: me far right? Well, I'm sorry, I don't agree with it, right,
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  Speaker 14: I don't think that it seems to wash over people
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  Speaker 14: a lot more now and have less of an impact.
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  Speaker 4: Lutely to work.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely right, I totally agree with you, Patrick Christie's
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  Speaker 3: thanks for that breaking news. Always a delight to speak
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  Speaker 3: with you, And as I said, we'll have more of
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  Speaker 3: that breaking news throughout the evening. Stick around coming up
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  Speaker 3: now is Dnika to Georgio.
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  Speaker 4: Good night