Latest / More Than Medicine / MTM - Interview with Dr. Michael Cloer .. Bible Prophecy and Current Events in the Middle East Part One
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- 0:03SPEAKER_00: Welcome to More Than Medicine, where Jesus is more than enough for the ills that plague our culture and country.
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: Hosted by author and physician Dr.
- 0:13SPEAKER_00: Robert Jackson and his wife Carlana and daughter Annabella.
- 0:17SPEAKER_00: So listen up because the doctor is in it.
- 0:23SPEAKER_02: Welcome to More Than Medicine.
- 0:24SPEAKER_02: I'm your host, Dr.
- 0:25SPEAKER_02: Robert Jackson, bringing to you biblical insights and stories from the country doctor's Rusty Dusty Scrapbook.
- 0:34SPEAKER_02: Well, I am so honored today to have one of my good, good friends, Dr.
- 0:39SPEAKER_02: Michael Clore, here not in my studio, but on the telephone line with me once again today.
- 0:47SPEAKER_02: Welcome, Dr.
- 0:48SPEAKER_02: Clore.
- 0:50SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm so glad to be with you again, Dr.
- 0:52SPEAKER_01: Jackson.
- 0:52SPEAKER_02: Well, it's my privilege to have you.
- 0:55SPEAKER_02: Now, I I specifically ask you, Dr.
- 0:57SPEAKER_02: Clore, to be uh my guest today because of all the events that are happening in the Middle East.
- 1:05SPEAKER_02: Now, I want my listeners to understand that when I have questions about the scripture and particularly about Bible prophecy, Dr.
- 1:16SPEAKER_02: Clore is the one that I call upon.
- 1:21SPEAKER_02: And but now before I go forward, I want to tell ask Dr.
- 1:26SPEAKER_02: Clore if you would just share with folks your credentials.
- 1:29SPEAKER_02: Tell them a little bit about your past and your training and what you're doing right now, and and then I'm gonna I'm gonna set it up with a couple of questions.
- 1:37SPEAKER_02: So tell them a little bit about yourself.
- 1:41SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Dr.
- 1:41SPEAKER_01: Jackson.
- 1:42SPEAKER_01: I've I've been in ministry over fifty-five years.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: I was pastor for 50 of those years.
- 1:48SPEAKER_01: I pastored five churches in uh in five decades.
- 1:54SPEAKER_01: And now I get the privilege as a mission strategist for an association in southeast North Carolina called Wilmington.
- 2:02SPEAKER_01: I get to pastor 70 other pastors and lead them on mission for the Lord.
- 2:08SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm doing now.
- 2:10SPEAKER_02: Now, where are some of the places that you go on mission right now?
- 2:15SPEAKER_01: Mostly South Asia.
- 2:16SPEAKER_01: It's the largest concentration of lostness on the earth.
- 2:19SPEAKER_01: So we're trying to get people to go to the to the most fish on the planet.
- 2:24SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 2:24SPEAKER_02: I got you.
- 2:25SPEAKER_02: I got you.
- 2:26SPEAKER_02: All right.
- 2:26SPEAKER_02: Well, now here's what I want us to talk about today.
- 2:31SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, I I see our president, whom I love and respect and pray for regularly, doing his best to bring peace in the Middle East.
- 2:43SPEAKER_02: He even has a board of peace that incorporates many of the uh predominantly Muslim countries in the Middle East, and he's trying to bring peace to the Middle East, and and he's incorporating Israel into that group of nations where he is trying to bring peace.
- 3:08SPEAKER_02: And yet I know that there are countries in the Middle East that are sworn enemies of Israel.
- 3:19SPEAKER_02: The Muslim countries around Israel have always been hostile to Israel.
- 3:27SPEAKER_02: In fact, some of those nations in their constitutions, their constitution says that they are committed to the annihilation of Israel.
- 3:42SPEAKER_02: And their people sing and dance in the street, proclaiming death to Israel, and by the by the way, death to the great Satan, which is America.
- 3:56SPEAKER_02: And yet President Trump, again, whom I respect greatly, is doing his best to bring a coalition of Muslim, predominantly Muslim nations into an organization that will include Israel, that will have a peaceful coalition of nations.
- 4:21SPEAKER_02: Now, having said all that, most of my listeners know a little bit about Bible prophecy, and they know that the Bible tells us that in the end times there's going to be a great big war.
- 4:38SPEAKER_02: And in that war there's going to be a coalition of nations that's going to be arrayed against Israel.
- 4:48SPEAKER_02: And and I'm looking at that Bible prophecy, and I'm looking at what our president is trying to accomplish, and I'm thinking to myself, as is probably many of my listeners, and they're thinking, how's that going to happen?
- 5:03SPEAKER_02: Is our president wasting his time?
- 5:07SPEAKER_02: Is his efforts going to jih haul with biblical prophecy?
- 5:12SPEAKER_02: And so the reason I've asked you on, Dr.
- 5:15SPEAKER_02: Clore, is because I just want you to help us answer some of those questions that are in my mind and that are in the mind of many of my listeners.
- 5:25SPEAKER_02: And I want you to explain to us really what does the Bible say about the future of the Middle East, the future of Israel, and how does biblical prophecy align with the things that our president is trying to accomplish?
- 5:40SPEAKER_02: Is he wasting his time?
- 5:42SPEAKER_02: And just help us understand all of that.
- 5:46SPEAKER_02: You're one of the biblical scholars that I value and appreciate, and I think my listeners really would like to understand what the future hold for the Middle East.
- 5:58SPEAKER_02: And my brother, take it away.
- 6:02SPEAKER_01: Oh no, uh, Dr.
- 6:03SPEAKER_01: Jackson, I would not consider myself a scholar, but I am a student of the Word of God, like you are.
- 6:09SPEAKER_01: And uh hey, since this podcast is called More Than Medicine, uh, I'm going to give you a spiritual diagnosis of in just a few moments of what I believe is happening in the church today.
- 6:22SPEAKER_01: But let me give you the scenario first.
- 6:24SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 6:25SPEAKER_01: You ready?
- 6:26SPEAKER_01: I'm ready, I'm ready.
- 6:26SPEAKER_01: I'm on pens and needles.
- 6:28SPEAKER_01: Just imagine, hey, you wake up Tuesday morning, you're through with your time alone with the Lord.
- 6:35SPEAKER_01: Let's catch up on the news.
- 6:37SPEAKER_01: But when you turn on the news, it says, breaking news, breaking news.
- 6:41SPEAKER_01: Oil has been discovered in Israel in several places.
- 6:46SPEAKER_01: You begin to watch, and they talk about scientists are releasing reports that just a few miles off the coast of Israel are large oil deposits.
- 6:56SPEAKER_01: They're saying that it's the second largest undersea oil in the world.
- 7:01SPEAKER_01: Now you're really paying attention.
- 7:03SPEAKER_01: And over the next several days this week, that there's other news conferences being held at the United Nations, of course, at the White House.
- 7:11SPEAKER_01: Several leaders of the European community from the State Department, they're all trying to answer the question all right, whose oil is it?
- 7:21SPEAKER_01: Is it these poor, pitiful Palestinians, or is it those war-hating Jews in this occupied nation of Israel?
- 7:31SPEAKER_01: Whose oil is it?
- 7:32SPEAKER_01: Well, of course, we know the answer, but in just a few days, you hear on the news, breaking news, the president of Russia has been assassinated.
- 7:45SPEAKER_01: They're going to report that it's a it's a coup that's led by Chechen rebels.
- 7:52SPEAKER_01: But that's not so at all.
- 7:54SPEAKER_01: These so-called Chechen rebels have taken over the government.
- 7:58SPEAKER_01: Now, this new president of Russia has announced that uh he's gonna lead Russia from being the lowest part of the world economically to become the great Russia it once was.
- 8:12SPEAKER_01: He's gonna do everything within his power to lead Russia into the peaceful community as the world's strongest power.
- 8:24SPEAKER_01: We're waiting, we're watching.
- 8:27SPEAKER_01: We hear on the news, suddenly breaking.
- 8:30SPEAKER_01: Wait a minute, we're watching on our screens.
- 8:32SPEAKER_01: They said this is happening right now, and uh we're in Jerusalem.
- 8:37SPEAKER_01: There's this Russian Jew, he's he's he's orthodox.
- 8:42SPEAKER_01: He's running full steam toward the dome of the rock.
- 8:45SPEAKER_01: They're yelling at him.
- 8:46SPEAKER_01: Watch him.
- 8:47SPEAKER_01: Uh these Palestinian soldiers, they've warned him over and over to stop, but he doesn't stop.
- 8:52SPEAKER_01: He's running in his, he's trying to hold his fur hat on his head.
- 8:56SPEAKER_01: He they open fire on him, and all of a sudden the screens go black.
- 9:03SPEAKER_01: They say, ladies and gentlemen, there's a a mushroom cloud boiling over Jerusalem.
- 9:10SPEAKER_01: This this Jewish man has blown up the dome of the rock.
- 9:16SPEAKER_01: Within a matter of minutes, every Muslim on the planet is calling for holy jihad.
- 9:24SPEAKER_01: Now, we find out later it wasn't so.
- 9:44SPEAKER_01: He's a homicide bomber, dressed as a Russian Orthodox Jew, in order that the world would think that he was Jewish.
- 9:51SPEAKER_01: But he's blown not only himself up, but several thousands of other people now.
- 9:57SPEAKER_01: And they've destroyed the one of the most holy places for Muslim people.
- 10:01SPEAKER_01: They're calling now for the death of every Jew on the planet.
- 10:08SPEAKER_01: We're waiting to see what happens.
- 10:09SPEAKER_01: We're watching the news every day.
- 10:11SPEAKER_01: This the the Russian prime minister, the new one, has called a news conference.
- 10:17SPEAKER_01: He's standing beside him.
- 10:20SPEAKER_01: He's at the UN building in New York City.
- 10:23SPEAKER_01: And right beside of him, hey, that's that's the new Ayatollah of Iran.
- 10:30SPEAKER_01: His father was assassinated, killed in a bombing by Israel and and the United States.
- 10:37SPEAKER_01: And this Russian prime minister has explained to the world that he's interested in one thing only peace.
- 10:46SPEAKER_01: He's going to bring his nation to the grandest level they've ever been to establish peace around the world.
- 10:55SPEAKER_01: Because the United States has deceived us.
- 10:58SPEAKER_01: They've told us that they're going to do it, but Iran has been decimated.
- 11:06SPEAKER_01: Iraq now, because of that, has massive nuclear warheads coming from Russia.
- 11:17SPEAKER_01: Wait, wait a minute.
- 11:18SPEAKER_01: We're not after war.
- 11:20SPEAKER_01: We're after peace, he says.
- 11:23SPEAKER_01: We're going to do what America is incapable of doing, bringing peace to the Middle East and to the world.
- 11:28SPEAKER_01: Therefore, with the aid of Iran and Iraq, we're going to bring a resolution to the United Nations.
- 11:38SPEAKER_01: There's only one nation in the Middle East that has nuclear warheads.
- 11:44SPEAKER_01: That one nation has never signed a non-proliferation treaty of any kind, and that one nation is Israel.
- 11:53SPEAKER_01: Our resolution before the United Nations next week is number 5683 that will state Israel has 30 days to begin dismantling their nuclear warheads and to allow the United Nations experts to come and examine all the rest of their nuclear facilities.
- 12:15SPEAKER_01: If they do not comply within 30 days, the United Nations will take charge.
- 12:27SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you and these brothers and sisters who are listening.
- 12:31SPEAKER_01: Not if, but when that happens, and our relatives and our friends begin to say, What on earth is going on in this world?
- 12:41SPEAKER_01: What's happening?
- 12:42SPEAKER_01: What's going to happen next?
- 12:44SPEAKER_01: Are you going to be able to explain it?
- 12:48SPEAKER_01: I I think most Christians will not.
- 12:51SPEAKER_01: They think of prophecy, oh man, that's that stuff.
- 12:54SPEAKER_01: I don't, you know, people disagree about it.
- 12:57SPEAKER_01: I don't, I don't know if it's really that.
- 12:59SPEAKER_01: I'm just going to stick to doctrine and stick to the scriptures.
- 13:03SPEAKER_01: Did you know that between 25 and 30 percent of all the Bible is prophecy?
- 13:11SPEAKER_01: To say that I'm not interested in prophecy would be like saying I'm not interested in the Bible.
- 13:17SPEAKER_01: So let me just answer these questions.
- 13:19SPEAKER_01: By the way, that that uh malady that a lot of Christians are having these days, I call it headline hysteria.
- 13:29SPEAKER_01: They don't know what the Bible says, they don't know what's going to happen, and that's that's sad for Christians.
- 13:35SPEAKER_01: There's no need to be like that, brothers and sisters.
- 13:39SPEAKER_01: The child of God ought to be able to take the word of God and by the Spirit of God give an answer.
- 13:47SPEAKER_01: In fact, that's what the Bible says, doesn't it?
- 13:49SPEAKER_01: 1 Peter chapter 3, verse 15.
- 13:52SPEAKER_01: Sanctify the Lord God in your hearts and always be ready to give an answer to everyone that asks you for the reason for the hope that is in you.
- 14:01SPEAKER_01: Amen, amen.
- 14:02SPEAKER_01: And do it with reverence and gentleness.
- 14:06SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 14:07SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 14:08SPEAKER_01: So let's let's provide some of these answers.
- 14:12SPEAKER_01: Now, I love America.
- 14:16SPEAKER_01: Man, this year, 2026, we're celebrating our nation's 250th anniversary.
- 14:22SPEAKER_01: Uh I love America.
- 14:25SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm one of those people that uh liberals call a Christian nationalist.
- 14:31SPEAKER_01: Because I am a Christian and I love our nation.
- 14:36SPEAKER_01: And I can say that and then say, I know America is not the center of the world.
- 14:42SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 14:43SPEAKER_01: I know America is not the center of Bible prophecy.
- 14:47SPEAKER_01: Israel is the center of Bible prophecy.
- 14:50SPEAKER_01: In fact, if you're going to understand what's going on now, much less what's going to happen in the future, you better understand what God says about Israel.
- 14:59SPEAKER_01: Here's the law.
- 15:01SPEAKER_01: As Israel goes, so goes the world.
- 15:04SPEAKER_01: That's exactly right.
- 15:06SPEAKER_01: Israel is God's measuring stick, it's God's thermometer.
- 15:12SPEAKER_01: It's the way that God is going to bring all the nations of the world together, not for the sake of the United States, uh for the sake of Israel.
- 15:21SPEAKER_01: God has a unique plan for that nation.
- 15:25SPEAKER_01: It's very important we understand what that nation is is having, especially when we see what's happening right now.
- 15:31SPEAKER_01: Iran, Iran is in the news every day.
- 15:35SPEAKER_01: Israel is in the news every day.
- 15:38SPEAKER_01: What's going to happen there?
- 15:39SPEAKER_01: Is this thing going to erupt into the last war to end all wars?
- 15:44SPEAKER_01: And and some Christians will say, Dr.
- 15:46SPEAKER_01: Jackson, I've heard them say, uh a brother said this to me two weeks ago, but I don't see Iran anywhere in scriptures.
- 15:54SPEAKER_01: I don't see Iraq in scriptures.
- 15:57SPEAKER_01: I said, Do you see uh Washington, D.C.?
- 16:00SPEAKER_01: Do you read about New York?
- 16:01SPEAKER_01: And they're real.
- 16:02SPEAKER_01: No, no, those names weren't in existence when the scriptures were written.
- 16:07SPEAKER_01: What you do find are the words Persia.
- 16:10SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 16:11SPEAKER_01: The words Babylon.
- 16:13SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 16:14SPEAKER_01: Babylon in the Bible is what we call today Iran, Iraq.
- 16:21SPEAKER_01: In fact, the kingdom of Babylon in the Old Testament times was covered a large area, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, and many other areas.
- 16:31SPEAKER_01: Remember, at one time Babylon was a kingdom that ruled the entire world.
- 16:36SPEAKER_01: But Babylon proper was Iraq and Iran.
- 16:40SPEAKER_01: In Old Testament time, and uh between the 7th and the 5th century BC, the kingdom of Babylon ruled and reigned, and they were always the enemies of the people of Israel.
- 16:55SPEAKER_01: And you remember your Bible history, they came and conquered the nation of Israel, and then finally the nation of Judah, because that one nation under God had been divided into two, like ours is being divided.
- 17:10SPEAKER_01: The psalmist wrote, uh, how can we sing the song of the Lord in a strange land?
- 17:14SPEAKER_01: They were talking about the land of Babylon.
- 17:17SPEAKER_01: They sat there by the river and wept by the river Euphrates.
- 17:22SPEAKER_01: Uh, that land of Babylon, that land of Persia, that land of Iran and Iraq is referred to by another name, the Fertile Crescent.
- 17:36SPEAKER_01: What's coming to your mind when you hear Fertile Crescent?
- 17:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the crescent on the flag.
- 17:44SPEAKER_01: That's the fertile crescent.
- 17:45SPEAKER_01: It's the beginning of civilization, the beginning of mankind themselves.
- 17:50SPEAKER_01: So there it is.
- 17:52SPEAKER_01: We begin in the garden by the Euphrates with the Fertile Crescent.
- 18:01SPEAKER_01: That's why, as far as Bible prophecy, what's happening in Iran is exactly what the Word of God talks about.
- 18:07SPEAKER_01: This ancient Persia, the land of Esther, the land of Daniel, the land of a pagan, wicked, evil Gentile by the name of Cyrus, King Cyrus.
- 18:25SPEAKER_01: King Cyrus, whom God Himself called His anointed in Isaiah 45.
- 18:31SPEAKER_01: Why does he call him that?
- 18:33SPEAKER_01: Because God wait a minute.
- 18:37SPEAKER_01: I don't know who's the first person I've ever heard to say, I'm from the country.
- 18:41SPEAKER_01: And I remember the country, the mountain region of upper state South Carolina, the old timers would say, God can strike a straight lick with a crooked stick.
- 18:53SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 18:53SPEAKER_01: Well, that's what Cyrus was, a crooked stick.
- 18:56SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 18:56SPEAKER_01: But God used that unbelieving king to carry out his providential plan for Israel.
- 19:06SPEAKER_01: That's exactly what's happening today.
- 19:09SPEAKER_01: Iran's not up uh just a political talking point, uh, but what many people, including myself, believe it's a land of high biblical significance.
- 19:21SPEAKER_01: It's a major player in these end-time prophecies.
- 19:24SPEAKER_01: Does that make sense to you?
- 19:25SPEAKER_01: Oh, it does.
- 19:26SPEAKER_01: It does, and I believe it too.
- 19:29SPEAKER_01: I I remember, I remember 47 years ago, I was a young pastor.
- 19:36SPEAKER_01: I was studying Bible prophecy, and I remember listening to the news.
- 19:40SPEAKER_01: News came on one time a day then, and the Supreme Leader of Iran, the Ayatollah Krimini, said, I heard him, Death to America and Death to Israel, they translated.
- 19:54SPEAKER_01: And they were shaking his fist and saying, I what on earth?
- 19:59SPEAKER_01: I've never heard anybody say that in my life.
- 20:02SPEAKER_01: And that's been the chant now for all of these decades, four decades.
- 20:07SPEAKER_01: I watched like some of you did just a few months ago in this uh dramatic uh parliamentary session in Iran, uh, these uh Iranian lawmakers shaking their fist, all of them wearing military uniforms, shouting, Death to America, death to Israel.
- 20:26SPEAKER_01: So how are we supposed to react?
- 20:28SPEAKER_01: How was Israel supposed to react?
- 20:31SPEAKER_01: That's why this has happened.
- 20:34SPEAKER_01: Uh the if I could say it, the castration of Israel's regime is is is not only being cheered on by regional leaders throughout the Middle East, but but it's catching the atten uh attention of uh our adversaries like China and Russia and North Korea.
- 20:57SPEAKER_01: They're watching closely to see what happens.
- 20:59SPEAKER_01: By the way, by the way, did you notice earlier this week in the news, it was talking about how Vladimir Putin had invited uh the foreign minister of Iran uh to Moscow, and there's a large delegation met with them, and uh I I was just I was just reading that article before I came on, how uh they were saying, We're behind you, Iran.
- 21:28SPEAKER_01: That's exactly what the word of God said would happen, exactly what it said would happen.
- 21:32SPEAKER_01: Well, things are coming, things are coming to a glorious climax there.
- 21:38SPEAKER_01: Did you know there's gonna come a day, the Bible talks about it, and uh oh the next time, the next broadcast will get into Ezekiel chapter 38.
- 21:50SPEAKER_01: Uh this great battle.
- 21:52SPEAKER_01: It's not the battle to end all battles, but it's gonna be a battle that runs into that final battle.
- 21:58SPEAKER_01: That there's gonna be several.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: Nations, Russia's going to be the leader, and several Muslim nations will join in Confederacy with Russia, and they will come down against a little nation about the size of New Jersey to destroy it.
- 22:16SPEAKER_01: And the very first nation mentioned is Iran.
- 22:21SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
- 22:22SPEAKER_01: How about that?
- 22:24SPEAKER_01: What about that?
- 22:25SPEAKER_01: Is there going to be peace in the Middle East?
- 22:28SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 22:29SPEAKER_01: And the peace in the Middle East will happen at the end of that battle.
- 22:34SPEAKER_01: The winner.
- 22:36SPEAKER_01: If you can't be with us next time, let me just tell you how it ends.
- 22:40SPEAKER_01: Jesus wins.
- 22:50SPEAKER_01: And all of that, what the Bible talks about in Ezekiel 38 and 39 could never have happened 50, 70 years ago.
- 23:01SPEAKER_01: It could only happen now.
- 23:05SPEAKER_01: Dr.
- 23:05SPEAKER_01: Jackson, we're living in the days when Bible prophecy is being fulfilled right before our very eyes.
- 23:11SPEAKER_01: And not this is going to happen in I I don't know the year.
- 23:15SPEAKER_01: I don't know the year.
- 23:16SPEAKER_01: We're not putting a date on it.
- 23:18SPEAKER_01: But it's going to happen soon.
- 23:21unknown: Yeah.
- 23:21SPEAKER_01: It's going to happen in our lifetime, I believe, because all the actors are in place.
- 23:26SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited about it because I'm a follower of Jesus Christ.
- 23:29SPEAKER_01: At the same time, I'm troubled about it because I know there are those who don't yet follow the Lord Jesus, and my heart is burdened for them.
- 23:37SPEAKER_01: Friend, if you've never given your life to Jesus Christ, do it now.
- 23:42SPEAKER_01: Do it quickly.
- 23:44SPEAKER_01: Here's why.
- 23:45SPEAKER_01: Because Jesus Christ deserves your honor.
- 23:48SPEAKER_01: He deserves your life.
- 23:49SPEAKER_01: You and I are separated from God, and we deserve that separation.
- 23:53SPEAKER_01: We deserve to be separated forever, but he loves us and he sent his son to be a payment for our sin by dying for us on the cross.
- 24:01SPEAKER_01: And then three days later he came out of the grave to prove he really was who he claimed to be.
- 24:06SPEAKER_01: And now, if any person gives all of their life to him, and how long is that?
- 24:12SPEAKER_01: Well, not long.
- 24:14SPEAKER_01: But if you give him all of your life for the rest of your life, in return, he'll give you all of his life forever.
- 24:23SPEAKER_02: For eternity.
- 24:24SPEAKER_01: Amen.
- 24:25SPEAKER_01: Amen.
- 24:26SPEAKER_01: Just give your life to him today.
- 24:27SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 24:28SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 24:29SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 24:30SPEAKER_02: Now listen, dear listener, he was declared with great power to be the Son of God by the resurrection from the dead.
- 24:40SPEAKER_02: Preacher Clore could not have said it any better.
- 24:45SPEAKER_02: He is a great preacher of the Word of God, not just of Bible prophecy, but he is a great preacher of the Word, and He declares the truth about the Lord Jesus Christ, who is our only hope, who is our only plea.
- 25:03SPEAKER_02: And Jesus was declared to be the Son of God with great power by what?
- 25:09SPEAKER_02: By the resurrection from the dead.
- 25:13SPEAKER_02: And there are many others who have claimed to be a way.
- 25:17SPEAKER_02: But Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, and he proved the veracity, the truthfulness of that claim by the resurrection from the dead.
- 25:30SPEAKER_02: And I encourage you, dear listeners, put your trust and your confidence in Jesus, who is our Lord, our Lord Jesus Christ.
- 25:40SPEAKER_02: Preacher Clore, Dr.
- 25:42SPEAKER_02: Clore, I appreciate your knowledge, I appreciate your wisdom, and I appreciate you being with us this week.
- 25:49SPEAKER_02: Now you're going to be back again next week, right?
- 25:51SPEAKER_02: Finish up and teach us a little more about Ezekiel and uh verses uh chapters 38 and 39.
- 25:57SPEAKER_02: Is that correct?
- 25:58SPEAKER_01: That's exactly right.
- 25:59SPEAKER_01: And we're talking about the four horses of the apocalypse, and we're going to be talking about where does Islam fit in all of this?
- 26:06SPEAKER_02: Oh my, I can't wait.
- 26:08SPEAKER_02: I can't wait.
- 26:09SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I can wait a whole week.
- 26:12SPEAKER_02: I got to know the whole story and the end of the story.
- 26:17SPEAKER_02: All right.
- 26:17SPEAKER_02: Well, we're going to wrap up this week.
- 26:19SPEAKER_02: Uh you're listening to More Than Medicine.
- 26:22SPEAKER_02: My guest today is Dr.
- 26:24SPEAKER_02: Michael Clore, and we'll be back again next week to finish up.
- 26:30SPEAKER_02: Uh I appreciate my listeners hanging with us.
- 26:33SPEAKER_02: Uh, I thank you for your kind attention.
- 26:35SPEAKER_02: Uh, we'll be back next week.
- 26:37SPEAKER_02: Until then, may the Lord bless you real good.