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Mama June Talks About "Family Crisis," Controversy, Health, Addiction, Recovery and Relationships! · Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

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Speaker 1: let's get into today's guest. I'm so excited that she's here.
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Speaker 1: My guest today is considered one of the OGs in
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Speaker 1: reality TV. June Shannon has been in Toddlers and Tiaras,
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Speaker 1: Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, Mama June from Not to Hot,
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Speaker 1: The Masked Singer, Marriage Boot Camp. These are all just
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Speaker 1: to name a few. Her newest show, Mama June Family Crisis,
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Speaker 1: premieres Friday, May 5th. Welcome to the show, Mama June.
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Speaker 1: How are you?
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Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good. Been kind of busy here lately.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So how are you feeling about the show premiering?
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of excited because like, honestly, it's just been
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Speaker 2: a long, like we've been sharing our life with the
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Speaker 2: world for like 13 years. And it's literally been.
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Speaker 3: an amazing experience.
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Speaker 2: Has like fell into our lap and we've honestly had
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Speaker 2: an amazing journey.
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Speaker 3: And it's to be able to share another piece of
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Speaker 3: our life with the world.
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Speaker 2: And give people like the real life that happens in
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Speaker 2: America that they won't put on TV, but we will.
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Speaker 2: And when people tell us like, Hey, I didn't have
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Speaker 2: to go through this by myself. I didn't have to
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Speaker 2: thank you for, you know, kind of holding my hand
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Speaker 2: through that.
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Speaker 3: And that's really what, really while we continue.
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Speaker 2: To do that, do what we do is, you know,
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Speaker 2: giving them our real life experiences for people.
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Speaker 3: And when people say, Hey, is your life scripted?
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Speaker 2: You don't know, tell us like, Oh my God, if
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Speaker 2: our life was scripted, I would definitely write a different
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Speaker 2: script for my life.
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Speaker 3: Definitely. Oh, wow.
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Speaker 1: So June, tell me how you got into TV. Back
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Speaker 1: me up for a second into your personal childhood.
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Speaker 2: Um, honestly, um, And the real truth, how we got
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Speaker 2: into reality TV is we got a call, we was
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Speaker 2: doing a pageant and Alana had did her first splits
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Speaker 2: pageant and the director, somebody had backed out of doing
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Speaker 2: Tolles and Tears. The director called us and said, hey,
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Speaker 2: they want somebody new on pageantry to do Tolles and Tears. Honestly,
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Speaker 2: America fell in love with Alana and that's literally, everything
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Speaker 2: that we've had has literally fell out in our lap.
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Speaker 2: We have had no coaching classes. We have not went
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Speaker 2: out and tried to find fame, nothing. Everything that has
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Speaker 2: happened to us has came to our doorstep, nothing.
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Speaker 1: But how did they even find you? Were you guys
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Speaker 1: in acting classes or you guys were already signed up
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Speaker 1: for a pageant?
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Speaker 2: No, we literally was signed up for the pageant. Somebody
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Speaker 2: backed out of doing Childhood and Tears. The director called us,
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Speaker 2: asked us.
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Speaker 3: If we do it.
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Speaker 2: October 12th of 2011, A camera crew knocked on our door.
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Speaker 2: We had no idea what the hell we was getting
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Speaker 2: ourselves into. Alana was very shy that day. We was
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Speaker 2: all like, what the hell? With three days of filming.
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Speaker 2: And we were like, what the hell?
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Speaker 3: It premiered.
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Speaker 2: It was the highest rated show in Tolleson Terrace history.
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Speaker 2: They came back to us. Authentic Entertainment came back to
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Speaker 2: us and said, hey, we want you to do another pageant.
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Speaker 2: When's y'all's next pageant? We had no idea what our
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Speaker 2: next pageant was. We did one again with them.
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Speaker 3: They loved us. We did a third pageant with Childers
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Speaker 3: and Tiaras.
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Speaker 2: And before we did our third pageant, TLC came to
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Speaker 2: us and said, oh, my God, there's something about y'all's family.
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Speaker 3: We don't know where it is, but we want to
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Speaker 3: do a reality show.
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Speaker 2: And when I tell you our heads spun and we
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Speaker 2: knew nothing about TV, we knew nothing about filming. We
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Speaker 2: knew nothing about cameras. We knew nothing about how our
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Speaker 2: life was fixing to turn upside down.
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Speaker 3: We knew, we knew.
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Speaker 1: So you were just yourself on camera and people saw us.
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Speaker 2: We have no script, no nothing. What happens, happens. We
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Speaker 2: have real life issues. My weight loss, I fell out
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Speaker 2: of control with my weight loss. I fell out of
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Speaker 2: control on national TV with drug addiction. I went to rehab,
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Speaker 2: working on my relationship with my children. Now this season,
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Speaker 2: y'all will see what goes on, you know, with my marriage,
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Speaker 2: with like me getting back on track with my children
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Speaker 2: and all of that. Like, so everything that has gone
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Speaker 2: on in our life, y'all will see that. So I
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Speaker 2: have become an open book and decided those doors that
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Speaker 2: are closed, we.
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Speaker 3: Have opened them.
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Speaker 2: And trust me, sometimes, I tell people that people's like, oh,
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Speaker 2: my God, I want to be on reality TV. But
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Speaker 2: guys know what you're getting into before you get on
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Speaker 2: reality TV, because there is no more privacy.
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Speaker 3: There is no more privacy. Right.
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Speaker 1: And also it's it leaves you open to such judgment
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Speaker 1: and haters and people really looking into your life without
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Speaker 1: any sort of empathy because they don't walk in your shoes.
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Speaker 1: So how's that been?
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Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes it's got its pros and it's got
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Speaker 2: its cons, you know, especially when I went through my
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Speaker 2: drug addiction and there was, you know, when I was
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Speaker 2: honest and open about the million dollars I spent on
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Speaker 2: my drug addiction, you know, because my drug addiction, my
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Speaker 2: drug of choice was a very, you know, you know,
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Speaker 2: my drug choice was cocaine.
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Speaker 3: And so, you know, it's a very expensive drug.
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Speaker 2: And so I'm now three and a half years clean
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Speaker 2: without anything.
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Speaker 3: I don't even smoke cigarettes. I don't drink. I don't
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Speaker 3: do anything.
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Speaker 2: So, you know, I tell people like I was honest
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Speaker 2: about that. And so, and I went to rehab, I
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Speaker 2: lost all of my money. I went to rehab with
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Speaker 2: a dollar 25 to my name. And so, you know,
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Speaker 2: I've been there.
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Speaker 3: I've done that.
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Speaker 2: I've been on my highest highs. I've been on my
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Speaker 2: lowest lows and went back up again. But I tell
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Speaker 2: people like money can change you and money is the
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Speaker 2: root of all evil. And when you get in this industry,
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Speaker 2: it can swallow you up and you can get on
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Speaker 2: the dark side of this industry and very, very, very,
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Speaker 2: very fastly. And it can swap, that dark side of
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Speaker 2: this industry can swell you up. And, you know, I
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Speaker 2: hate to say it. I mean, I do, I did
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Speaker 2: it on my own, but it was very easily because
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Speaker 2: this industry is very demanding. And you always want to
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Speaker 2: do something and you find, you try to find something
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Speaker 2: to be more, more.
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Speaker 3: Up with the newest things and be more, more uppity up.
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Speaker 2: And, you know, people like you said, you know, fans
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Speaker 2: want to, you know, people want, you to be this
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Speaker 2: certain persona. And when they want you to be this
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Speaker 2: certain persona, then you feel like you have to be
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Speaker 2: that persona.
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Speaker 3: And you want to be in more demand and this
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Speaker 3: and that.
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Speaker 2: And so I found something to be more in demand
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Speaker 2: and it really took a lot of part of my life.
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Speaker 2: It took me away from my children. It took me
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Speaker 2: away from my own personal self. And I'm glad that
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Speaker 2: I was able to snatch myself out of that dark spot.
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Speaker 3: And three and a half years later, I don't even
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Speaker 3: know who that person is.
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Speaker 1: So where are you on your sobriety right now?
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Speaker 3: Three and a half years clean.
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Speaker 2: I've been clean since January 27th of 2020. I haven't,
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Speaker 2: I don't drink, I don't smoke. I don't associate with
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Speaker 2: people like that. And I get other people into treatment.
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Speaker 2: I talk to people now. I just, I mentor a
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Speaker 2: lot of people. I don't, I am not a coach
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Speaker 2: for anyone because I don't want to have to not
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Speaker 2: answer that phone call at three o'clock in the morning
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Speaker 2: and something happened to them.
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Speaker 3: But I just tell.
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Speaker 2: People this, tell you, encourage people to get the help
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Speaker 2: that they need and they deserve and just talk to
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Speaker 2: families that are going through that same situation. Along with
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Speaker 2: my daughters, they, they talked to people that, because they
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Speaker 2: went through it, you know? And so, so it's really
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Speaker 2: kind of like a family thing, an ordeal. And so
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Speaker 2: we've done all that on TV.
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Speaker 1: So how hard is that though, to stay sober? Because
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Speaker 1: especially with all the comments from people and all the
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Speaker 1: stress you're getting at, I know it's one day at
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Speaker 1: a time, right? But like, how often do you want
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Speaker 1: to quit and just say, Oh God, I just need
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Speaker 1: a break. You know, how do you stay on that path?
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Speaker 3: And this, this sounds so crazy because a lot of
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Speaker 3: people in their sobriety say that the stresses make them
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Speaker 3: want to use. Right. But for me, me being so
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Speaker 3: like right.
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Speaker 2: Now, you know, my daughter, Anna, my oldest is battling
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Speaker 2: stage four cancer and we're in between Georgia and Alabama,
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Speaker 2: me and my husband. And it's a lot of things
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Speaker 2: are going on with filming and just, I have a
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Speaker 2: very demanding life right now. And, you know, as a
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Speaker 2: mother of somebody that just got told two months ago
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Speaker 2: that my daughter, we don't know what's going to happen.
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Speaker 2: And we're doing cremo treatments and all that. And, you know,
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Speaker 2: as a family, you know, it's been a shock. My daughter's,
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Speaker 2: you know, Lana Honeyboo is graduating high school and all this.
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Speaker 2: And so there's a lot of demands. But for me,
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Speaker 2: that stress is a challenge.
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Speaker 4: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
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Speaker 4: know about the drawer. the drawer just the one square
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Speaker 4: before bed or two you know nobody's watching you deserve
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Speaker 4: a treat with eight flavors to choose from you can
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Speaker 4: choose the flavor you favor.
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Speaker 2: For me, so for me, I don't even think that
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Speaker 2: that makes me, my life being chaotic and hectic now, nowadays,
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Speaker 2: makes me not even think about wanting to use. In
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Speaker 2: the past, it would make me want to use, but
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Speaker 2: the tools that I was able to When I went.
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Speaker 3: To rehab, the tools that I was able to use
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Speaker 3: and get there that I didn't have before, being.
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Speaker 2: Able to those coping skills with all the stress that
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Speaker 2: I have going on with my life now, I don't
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Speaker 2: even think about that lifestyle because I know what I
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Speaker 2: could lose.
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Speaker 1: Right. And it also sounds like you're so aware of
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Speaker 1: like when you're busy and you have a purpose and
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Speaker 1: you have something to do that takes you out of it.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: And like before it, it wouldn't like three and a
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Speaker 2: half years ago, it wouldn't. But now it's like, okay,
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Speaker 2: I know what I've got to do. And I don't
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Speaker 2: even think about that. Like, I'm like, that's the last,
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Speaker 2: that's the, not even a thought in my mind anymore.
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Speaker 1: So I have a question. I want to go back
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Speaker 1: to you for a second and your childhood. Where did
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Speaker 1: you grow up? Were your parents married? Were you an
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Speaker 1: only child?
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Speaker 2: I grew up in Hampton, Georgia, Griffin, Georgia. I grew
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Speaker 2: up in like a small town. My parents were divorced.
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Speaker 2: I also, through me healing my own, like I got
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Speaker 2: to know I was 42. And through that, I learned
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Speaker 2: that a lot of the trauma also happened back in
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Speaker 2: my childhood with my mom, because she worked a lot.
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Speaker 2: You know, my mom was a very controlling person. My
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Speaker 2: mom was A drunk, my stepdad was amazing. He raised
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Speaker 2: me to the age of two. My real father wasn't
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Speaker 2: in my life. I tried to mend those relationships after
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Speaker 2: my children, but unfortunately they didn't mend.
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Speaker 3: But that is what it is. It ain't what it ain't.
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Speaker 3: I don't blame him. I don't blame anyone, but it
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Speaker 3: is what it is. It ain't what it ain't.
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Speaker 2: But I haven't spoke to my mother in nine years,
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Speaker 2: but I realized that after taking my life back three
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Speaker 2: years ago and learning who I was, that those traumas
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Speaker 2: that have happened all of my life, going through domestic
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Speaker 2: violence situations with boyfriends.
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Speaker 3: And all that, it started way back with my mother.
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Speaker 2: And so that's where I learned a lot of the
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Speaker 2: trauma started back from is because my mom used to use.
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Speaker 3: Items for love. And I realized that I was doing
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Speaker 3: that same thing with.
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Speaker 2: My children because I became a young mom at the
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Speaker 2: age of 15.
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Speaker 1: I was just going to ask you about that. And
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Speaker 1: you brought up Anna, that was your first child, right?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: I had my first daughter at 18 days after I
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Speaker 2: turned 15. I had my second child when I was 17.
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Speaker 2: I had my third child when I was 19 and
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Speaker 2: I had.
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Speaker 3: A lot of when I was 26. Wow.
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Speaker 1: So what was that like being a mom at 15?
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Speaker 3: It was crazy. I got, I went and my mom
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Speaker 3: tried to actually give me, tell me like I needed
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Speaker 3: to give her away. I needed to not have a child.
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Speaker 2: And Being the headstrong person that I was and I
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Speaker 2: had a job at that point, I raised my child.
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Speaker 2: That's my oldest one today, my 28-year-old. And I took
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Speaker 2: care of my responsibilities. And, you know, they had the
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Speaker 2: best life, you know, that they could. They didn't have,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? I mean, I made sure
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Speaker 2: they had clothes. I made sure they had food. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know, there were struggles along the way. But, you know,
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Speaker 2: you make things work out.
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Speaker 3: As a parent.
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Speaker 1: What job did you have at that time?
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Speaker 3: I actually worked at a Wendy's.
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Speaker 2: I worked at restaurants and stuff like that, restaurants and
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Speaker 2: warehouses and all that up until around 2008. Well, it
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Speaker 2: was actually until like 2012 when we became who we were.
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Speaker 1: Got it. So, okay, now talk to me about your
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Speaker 1: kids for a second. First, you had Anna, then Jessica,
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Speaker 1: then Lauren, then Alana, right?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: And then you come up with these amazing names. Were
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Speaker 1: those names from the show or you had been calling
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Speaker 1: them these names since childhood?
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Speaker 2: OK, so Chickadee came from Anna is one that likes
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Speaker 2: to sleep all the time and she was born in school.
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Speaker 2: And so, you know, she had to get up with
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Speaker 2: the chickens to go to school. OK, because you would never.
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Speaker 3: Get it with her. She would never get up with
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Speaker 3: her alarm clock. So I used to call her Chickadee.
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Speaker 2: OK, so we're like, OK, Chickadee, get your ass up
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Speaker 2: because you had to get it with them chickens. So
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Speaker 2: that was just something that just randomly came up while
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Speaker 2: she was going to school.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Chubbs, which is Jessica. You remember the box of
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Speaker 3: butt wipes? I don't know if you're old enough or not.
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to call you out on your age.
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Speaker 2: But you know the box of butt wipes that has
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Speaker 2: a little baby on it that was called Chubbs back
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Speaker 2: in the day?
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Speaker 3: Of course.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so Chubbs was a chubby baby, Jessica. So she
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Speaker 2: looked like the baby that was on the Chubbs box, okay?
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Speaker 3: That was her. Pumpkin, which is Lauren. Who the hell
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Speaker 3: is Lauren? I'm like, when you say Lauren, nobody knows
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Speaker 3: her by that name. So when she's introduced to people, see, Pumpkin, see,
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Speaker 3: she's obsessed with all this behind me. And anything Pumpkin related,
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Speaker 3: it could be a sticker or anything, all of her life.
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Speaker 2: And she got that name when she was, like, three
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Speaker 2: months old, and it's pretty much stuck. Nobody knows Pumpkin
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Speaker 2: as Lauren, but unless she goes to school or she's
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Speaker 2: at a government office. So I don't even know how
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Speaker 2: the hell she got that, but she's never been called Lauren.
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Speaker 3: Who the hell is Lauren? Yeah. So.
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Speaker 2: Alana actually came up with her own name, Honey Boo Boo,
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Speaker 2: because it goes back to October 12th. October 12th, we
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Speaker 2: started filming of 2011. And BJ Goldnick, which was our producer, sorry,
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Speaker 2: our camera guy at the time, gave her a wallet.
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Speaker 2: And we didn't even realize it had a dollar in it.
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Speaker 2: She was very nervous that day. She poured it out
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Speaker 2: and she goes, a dollar making, how about Honey Boo
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Speaker 2: Boo Child? And she came out with her own name
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Speaker 2: and it stuck.
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Speaker 3: And the world started calling her Honey Boo Boo and
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Speaker 3: it just stuck.
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is amazing. All right, so now
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Speaker 1: you've brought us up to the point where Alana is
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Speaker 1: in your life and you guys are doing pageants and
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Speaker 1: you're asked to be on Toddlers and Tiara. What was
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Speaker 1: it like doing pageants in general?
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Speaker 2: Let me tell you, pageants are cutthroat. The parents are
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Speaker 2: hella worse than the kids are.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just telling you. hella worse and what's.
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Speaker 2: So bad is the parents are so bad that they
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Speaker 2: will steal dresses they will steal your hair pieces they
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Speaker 2: will steal your flippers they will steal your hair and
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Speaker 2: makeup artist and pay them more money but then what's
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Speaker 2: so bad is when all this like riffraff is going
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Speaker 2: between the parents it's not the fact that it hurts
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Speaker 2: the parents it hurts the kids because the kids want
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Speaker 2: to play with each other and that's what it is
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Speaker 2: not so bad in the natural side it's more on
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Speaker 2: the glitz side But I will tell you, we never
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Speaker 2: experienced that, but I seen it happen.
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Speaker 3: But we personally never experienced that because I just, we
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Speaker 3: just didn't get in that drama, but we saw the drama.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: And so what was it like doing your first show?
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Speaker 1: Were you just like, oh my God, this is crazy.
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Speaker 1: Were you, obviously you were famous right from the get-go.
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Speaker 2: Well, we did our first pageant. That was our first
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Speaker 2: Blitz pageant. And we were newbies.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we were. We were newbies.
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Speaker 2: And Alana just loved doing it. And I did not
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Speaker 2: know anything about hair. I didn't know anything about flippers.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know anything about dresses. So we went in
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Speaker 2: there looking like whodunit and what. But we learned very
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Speaker 2: quick that you had to spend money. And in a weekend,
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Speaker 2: and this is before.
17:48
Speaker 3: We were who we were, we had.
17:51
Speaker 2: To save up for a good like month or two
17:54
Speaker 2: to buy a dress because to get a dress made
17:57
Speaker 2: was like, like 2,500 to get teeth made.
18:00
Speaker 3: It was like, uh, like 250 bucks to get a
18:04
Speaker 3: hair piece.
18:04
Speaker 2: It was a couple hundred bucks to get your hair
18:06
Speaker 2: and makeup for the weekend. It was like 250 bucks
18:09
Speaker 2: to get spray tanned. It's like 30, uh, fees are
18:12
Speaker 2: like 300 and Towers and chairs pays none of that. So, um,
18:17
Speaker 2: so you have to do all that to be part
18:19
Speaker 2: of a show like that. They pay none of that.
18:22
Speaker 1: Right. So, but to be clear for people, you weren't
18:24
Speaker 1: doing this to be on TV. You were doing this
18:26
Speaker 1: because Alana wanted to be in pageants.
18:28
Speaker 3: Correct, correct.
18:29
Speaker 2: And what they do with, that's a misconception that people think.
18:32
Speaker 2: Toddlers and chairs don't, don't, don't, that you send in
18:37
Speaker 2: a submission video. We did not send in a submission video.
18:40
Speaker 2: The pageant director contacted us because they were looking for,
18:44
Speaker 2: Todd and Jared were looking for a new person to
18:47
Speaker 2: fill that spot. And we were brand spanking new. And
18:51
Speaker 2: when that pageant director was like, yes, so what does
18:54
Speaker 2: that include? And she was like, oh, the camera guy
18:56
Speaker 2: will come to your house.
18:57
Speaker 3: And we were like, huh?
19:00
Speaker 2: And when it came and they not, we had no
19:02
Speaker 2: idea what to do. And when I tell you, I
19:06
Speaker 2: don't see how it turned out the way it did
19:08
Speaker 2: the first episode. We were so nervous for three days.
19:11
Speaker 2: We had no idea what the hell we were doing.
19:14
Speaker 1: And what were the other kids like? I mean, I've
19:16
Speaker 1: seen Little Miss Sunshine. Do you remember that movie?
19:19
Speaker 3: Yeah.
19:20
Speaker 1: It was such a great movie. I love that. But
19:22
Speaker 1: I can imagine that it must have been so.
19:25
Speaker 4: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
19:28
Speaker 4: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
19:33
Speaker 4: before bed.
19:36
Speaker 1: Or two, you know.
19:38
Speaker 4: Nobody's watching. You deserve a treat. With eight flavours to
19:45
Speaker 4: choose from, you can choose the flavor you favor with
19:48
Speaker 4: Cadbury Dairy Milk.
19:55
Speaker 1: Weird to walk in and see all these little prim
19:57
Speaker 1: and proper girls that, you know, their moms are such
20:00
Speaker 1: stage moms. Was it like that for you guys?
20:04
Speaker 3: Um... Well, I have to say I'm big on that
20:07
Speaker 3: stage mom too, because Alana's graduating like next month. Okay.
20:12
Speaker 2: And I told her, I said, look, you don't, you
20:15
Speaker 2: have not been across that stage in a while. And
20:17
Speaker 2: don't think that I'm.
20:17
Speaker 3: Not going to scream. One last time. If she walks
20:23
Speaker 3: across that stage, you know what I'm saying?
20:26
Speaker 2: So she's like, Oh my God, y'all are about to
20:28
Speaker 2: embarrass the shit out of me at graduation.
20:30
Speaker 3: So I will have to say that I will cheer
20:32
Speaker 3: her on.
20:33
Speaker 2: But if she didn't enjoy it as much as she would,
20:36
Speaker 2: I do say that some of those moms.
20:38
Speaker 3: Do it because they get to keep more out of it.
20:41
Speaker 2: Because there was some kids there that I feel like
20:45
Speaker 2: it was like a routine every weekend that they were
20:48
Speaker 2: just like it was like a train. You know what
20:51
Speaker 2: I'm saying? So but there was a lot of kids
20:53
Speaker 2: that loved it, too, that you could see they were seasoned. Right, right.
20:58
Speaker 1: So America then watched you on from not to hot
21:01
Speaker 1: and they watched your transformation and your weight loss. How
21:04
Speaker 1: was that? Forget about being on the show, but how
21:07
Speaker 1: was that weight loss for you? And then to have
21:09
Speaker 1: it documented in such a way.
21:11
Speaker 2: Um, for me, like, okay, I had already lost like
21:15
Speaker 2: 200 pounds on myself. Like I went from five 50
21:17
Speaker 2: down to like three 11. And then I had the
21:19
Speaker 2: weight loss surgery. I went from three 11 down to
21:21
Speaker 2: one 95.
21:22
Speaker 3: And then I had my, then I had my skin
21:24
Speaker 3: removal surgery on my arms. I had my chest lifted.
21:28
Speaker 2: I had a tummy tuck and I had my chin
21:30
Speaker 2: just lipoed underneath, right? So I had no facial, none
21:34
Speaker 2: of this done. And for me, I always wanted my arms,
21:39
Speaker 2: my stomach done even when I was bigger because I
21:41
Speaker 2: had a fupa, my arms were hanging down.
21:44
Speaker 3: I wanted to feel good about myself. But because I
21:46
Speaker 3: lost weight so fast and I tell you this all
21:49
Speaker 3: the time when they ask me about the gastric sleeve
21:50
Speaker 3: and they ask me about stuff like that. Just know
21:54
Speaker 3: that you are, it is going to change your body dramatically.
21:56
Speaker 3: Know what you're getting into. I feel like I got
22:00
Speaker 3: skinny way super fast. I got down to like 130.
22:03
Speaker 2: I went from a size 28 to like a zero
22:05
Speaker 2: at my lowest. You start seeing skin and bones. I've
22:11
Speaker 2: been like 241 for like almost like over two years.
22:15
Speaker 2: And I feel like this is where I'm going to
22:16
Speaker 2: be at. because I'm not one up and I'm not
22:18
Speaker 2: one down.
22:20
Speaker 3: And I think.
22:21
Speaker 1: What was the lowest you ever got to?
22:23
Speaker 3: A 130. Oh, wow.
22:25
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
22:26
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like if you look at those pictures, I was
22:28
Speaker 2: in a red dress. You can't really tell it, but
22:29
Speaker 2: I mean, you could see my rib cage. You could
22:32
Speaker 2: see my bones right here. You could see my bones
22:35
Speaker 2: in my arm. And for me, like that was just
22:38
Speaker 2: way too skinny. You can see the bones in my face.
22:41
Speaker 2: Like that was before like my drug addiction and everything.
22:43
Speaker 2: So like, And so after my drug addiction, I went
22:47
Speaker 2: up to like 200 and now I'm like 241. I've
22:50
Speaker 2: been that way for a couple of years. And I
22:52
Speaker 2: just think that's where God wants me to be at.
22:55
Speaker 1: And you're happiest at this weight? You feel good?
22:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do because I've tried to go to the gym.
23:01
Speaker 2: I've tried to work out. I've tried to do diet.
23:03
Speaker 2: I've tried to do like stuff that the gastric sleeve
23:07
Speaker 2: doctor has told me to do. And I can't move
23:10
Speaker 2: the scale from 241.
23:12
Speaker 1: So but you said originally you had lost 200 pounds
23:14
Speaker 1: on your own before you did any surgeries. Did you
23:16
Speaker 1: go on a specific diet?
23:18
Speaker 3: No, it was weird.
23:20
Speaker 2: I got some stresses out of my life and really
23:23
Speaker 2: wasn't even trying to lose weight at that time.
23:25
Speaker 3: It's kind of like I got away from some stresses
23:27
Speaker 3: and lost weight. Just it fell off.
23:30
Speaker 1: My gosh, that's amazing. So talk to me about what
23:33
Speaker 1: it was like to be on The Masked Singer.
23:36
Speaker 2: The Masked Singer was the first thing that me and
23:38
Speaker 2: Alana did outside of me being, and it was kind
23:42
Speaker 2: of crazy. It was a very emotional time for me.
23:45
Speaker 3: And that was the truth.
23:48
Speaker 2: Because Alana had did Dancing with the Stars and Junior Edition,
23:52
Speaker 2: the only Junior Edition that they did with Dancing with
23:55
Speaker 2: the Stars.
23:55
Speaker 3: And that was a pretty big deal. But the Masked
23:59
Speaker 3: Singer was.
23:59
Speaker 2: Even a more emotional thing for me because that was
24:04
Speaker 2: the first thing that I had done with Alana in
24:07
Speaker 2: my recovery.
24:08
Speaker 3: I had done with Alana since I had been sober.
24:12
Speaker 2: And so Dina Katz, which is an amazing, amazing producer,
24:16
Speaker 2: had reached out to Alana personally.
24:19
Speaker 3: And was like hey we want you and your mom
24:21
Speaker 3: to be.
24:21
Speaker 2: The first daughter daughter mother daughter duo on the mass
24:25
Speaker 2: singer and I was like oh my god like this
24:28
Speaker 2: would be cool for us to share this moment in
24:32
Speaker 2: my recovery you know I'm saying do something together first
24:35
Speaker 2: time and it was amazing and me with my blonde
24:38
Speaker 2: ass because I'm totally blonde in this side only like
24:40
Speaker 2: 10% left in this side and it was a cool
24:43
Speaker 2: experience even though our asses do not sing cannot hold
24:47
Speaker 2: a tune in a bucket But we went out there
24:49
Speaker 2: and we had fun for like three weeks. And it
24:53
Speaker 2: was an amazing experience. I recommend it to anyone if
24:56
Speaker 2: the Masked Singer reaches out to y'all. Even if you
24:59
Speaker 2: can't sing, go do it.
25:01
Speaker 3: Have fun. Be yourself.
25:03
Speaker 2: A lot of people go out there and can't sing.
25:05
Speaker 2: But behind that mask, you can be anybody you want
25:07
Speaker 2: to be.
25:08
Speaker 3: Right.
25:08
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
25:09
Speaker 2: So.
25:10
Speaker 1: You were talking about your 2019 drug possession arrest or whatever,
25:15
Speaker 1: and that ultimately cost you custody of Alana, right? To Lauren.
25:20
Speaker 3: Yes.
25:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, to Pumpkin. So how has that affected you?
25:25
Speaker 3: Um, you know, and I, and I, I tell a
25:27
Speaker 3: lot of people this, okay. Um, you know, yes, it hurt.
25:32
Speaker 2: A lot, but at that point in time in my life,
25:36
Speaker 2: I couldn't even take care of my fucking self.
25:39
Speaker 3: Okay.
25:40
Speaker 2: Honestly, I wasn't even good enough for myself, more or
25:44
Speaker 2: less be good enough for somebody else. And I allowed
25:48
Speaker 2: a drug to overtake me. Um, and that's the truth.
25:52
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't, I can't say sorry enough. I
25:55
Speaker 2: can't take that back. I wish it would have never happened.
26:00
Speaker 3: But also, you.
26:01
Speaker 2: Know, with her being the agent she is, we talked
26:04
Speaker 2: about it as a family because it happened when we
26:07
Speaker 2: finally went to court, I was in my sobriety. So,
26:09
Speaker 2: you know, we sat down, she had already went to
26:12
Speaker 2: the judge and told the judge and, you know, I
26:15
Speaker 2: didn't want to go into court and have this mud
26:17
Speaker 2: slinging battle of, okay.
26:19
Speaker 3: I'm clean now. Let's do this. Let's do that. And,
26:22
Speaker 3: you know, going back and forth.
26:24
Speaker 2: And then Alana hate me and pumpkin at the end
26:27
Speaker 2: of the day. So we decided that, Hey, She has
26:31
Speaker 2: one more year of school. She's fixing to turn 18 anyway.
26:35
Speaker 2: So let's just leave her in this situation. And when
26:37
Speaker 2: I see her every day, like literally she's going to
26:39
Speaker 2: get her, she's going to get her eyelashes done for
26:41
Speaker 2: prom this weekend anyway. Like we see each other all
26:44
Speaker 2: the time anyway. So it's not like, oh my God,
26:47
Speaker 2: she totally cut me off or I cut her off.
26:49
Speaker 2: So it's not like that situation like people think it is.
26:53
Speaker 1: So Pumpkin has full custody of her now, but this
26:55
Speaker 1: probably allows you to be more present in her life
26:59
Speaker 1: and in a position to really like have a better
27:01
Speaker 1: relationship with her, it sounds like.
27:03
Speaker 3: Right, right. So like, yeah, so it's not, it doesn't like,
27:06
Speaker 3: like stop the relationship, no.
27:08
Speaker 1: And how's Pumpkin doing? I mean, doesn't she have four
27:11
Speaker 1: kids of her own?
27:12
Speaker 3: Yes, she has.
27:13
Speaker 1: So how's that going in that household?
27:16
Speaker 2: Oh, it's crazy at times because she has a set
27:19
Speaker 2: of twins that are just turning one. They're turning one
27:22
Speaker 2: next month. She has a family that turns two in July,
27:25
Speaker 2: but y'all seen. And then Tink is fixing to be six.
27:29
Speaker 2: It's a hectic household over here. I will let you
27:31
Speaker 2: know that most of the time. But, you know, Pumpkin
27:35
Speaker 2: and Josh do very good. But with help from everyone
27:38
Speaker 2: of all of us, you know, and Pumpkin, I'll tell
27:40
Speaker 2: you yourself, it wasn't from help from a lot of people.
27:42
Speaker 2: I think that she would have done pulled her hair
27:44
Speaker 2: out with the twins, especially because they can be a
27:48
Speaker 2: family and the twins can be a handful at times.
27:51
Speaker 1: Well, it definitely takes a village. I only have one
27:54
Speaker 1: child and two dogs. And I realize I need a
27:56
Speaker 1: village for that. So I can't imagine what you guys need.
27:59
Speaker 1: But you guys all live very close, right? Yes.
28:01
Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah.
28:03
Speaker 1: So you can.
28:04
Speaker 2: Well, we're halfway in Alabama and halfway in Georgia. So
28:07
Speaker 2: but here lately, we've been more and so in Georgia
28:10
Speaker 2: the last few months than we have been in Alabama. Right.
28:13
Speaker 1: So talk to me a little bit more about that.
28:15
Speaker 1: Anna is currently undergoing chemotherapy, right?
28:19
Speaker 3: Yes. Yes. We last week was her second round. Right.
28:23
Speaker 1: So she was recently diagnosed with stage four cancer. It's
28:26
Speaker 1: adrenal carcinoma, right? That's a type of cancer that affects
28:29
Speaker 1: her kidney and lungs. How did you guys find out
28:32
Speaker 1: about that?
28:34
Speaker 3: Actually, it was kind of crazy.
28:36
Speaker 2: Back in late August, she actually was just complaining of
28:41
Speaker 2: like her back hurting and she went to the doctor.
28:43
Speaker 2: She actually went to the hospital. They actually found a
28:46
Speaker 2: tumor on her kidney. So if you just had surgery
28:49
Speaker 2: to remove it, because they were like, oh, it's a
28:51
Speaker 2: tumor and it's probably.
28:53
Speaker 4: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
28:56
Speaker 4: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
29:01
Speaker 4: before bed. Or two, you know. Nobody's watching.
29:08
Speaker 2: You deserve a treat.
29:12
Speaker 4: With eight flavors to choose from, you can choose the
29:15
Speaker 4: flavor you favor with Cadbury Dairy Milk.
29:23
Speaker 2: We like benign or like not cancerous, okay? And so
29:27
Speaker 2: when she had it done, she had it done.
29:29
Speaker 3: At the hospital. They took it out.
29:31
Speaker 2: She went to ICU because it was something removed from
29:34
Speaker 2: her adrenal gland and all that.
29:36
Speaker 3: They removed her left adrenal gland. So we thought she
29:39
Speaker 3: was fine.
29:40
Speaker 2: Well that night she called me and she was crying
29:42
Speaker 2: and she was like mom they said it was stage
29:44
Speaker 2: two cancer we had no idea so there's no telling
29:46
Speaker 2: how long she had it well she went back a
29:49
Speaker 2: couple months later you know for her like checkup they
29:51
Speaker 2: told us oh it's fine we got it all no
29:54
Speaker 2: big deal go back she's going about her life she's
29:58
Speaker 2: going to work she's selling cars. She's, you know, we're
30:01
Speaker 2: living our life. We're like, okay, no big deal. She
30:03
Speaker 2: had a breast cancer. You know, we're living a happy life.
30:06
Speaker 3: Well, come January of this year, 2023, she.
30:09
Speaker 2: Had a scan done and they seen a spot on
30:11
Speaker 2: her kidney and her lung. And they just said, hey,
30:16
Speaker 2: it looks like something is awareness. She wanted a second opinion.
30:19
Speaker 2: They transferred her to Atlanta. We had, me and Justin
30:23
Speaker 2: had our wedding ceremony.
30:24
Speaker 3: They came down for the next week. She went and
30:27
Speaker 3: had a scan done in Atlanta. And it had grown
30:30
Speaker 3: from the little b spots.
30:31
Speaker 2: On her kidney and her lungs to 10 centimeter tumor
30:34
Speaker 2: on her kidney and in her lungs to her spleen
30:38
Speaker 2: and to her bigger her lungs and that's when the
30:42
Speaker 2: doctor diagnosed her in February with stage four cancer and.
30:47
Speaker 3: We did her first treatment two weeks later of the chemo.
30:53
Speaker 2: And we just got done with the second round last week.
30:56
Speaker 2: And she lost her hair very, very, very quickly within
30:59
Speaker 2: two weeks. And it's been a hard struggle for the
31:01
Speaker 2: family because We don't know. The doctor didn't give us
31:07
Speaker 2: a timeline.
31:08
Speaker 3: We don't know.
31:10
Speaker 2: And we don't want to really know a timeline because
31:13
Speaker 2: we've talked to some people that's been in stage one
31:15
Speaker 2: and stage two because it is a very rare cancer.
31:17
Speaker 2: One in one million get it every year. It's only
31:20
Speaker 2: 200 people in the world that's got adrenal carcinoma. And
31:23
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of research on this cancer. Um,
31:27
Speaker 2: but there's people that we've talked to that have lived
31:29
Speaker 2: for three years, but they've been on some, they've been
31:32
Speaker 2: on chemo treatments, multiple, multiple times. And they've had to
31:36
Speaker 2: be on some kind of treatment to stay alive. So
31:39
Speaker 2: that does give us hope, but we have not talked
31:42
Speaker 2: to anybody that's been over stage one.
31:44
Speaker 1: Right, right. Oh, wow. That's just an unbelievable story. So what, um,
31:49
Speaker 1: you were there all last week with her, like, how
31:51
Speaker 1: was she doing with the second round besides obviously losing
31:54
Speaker 1: her hair?
31:55
Speaker 2: It it honestly was different she said um this girl
31:58
Speaker 2: around she sniffed and it's crazy we made a joke
32:01
Speaker 2: about it um because you have to you know um
32:04
Speaker 2: alcohol pads she was sniffing the hell out of alcohol
32:07
Speaker 2: pads because the nurse was saying that would help her
32:08
Speaker 2: with the nausea during the treatment and i.
32:11
Speaker 3: Said we all joked about it we said well shit.
32:12
Speaker 2: It's getting down to the fact that you know it
32:14
Speaker 2: come down to this a sniffing alcohol pads you know
32:17
Speaker 2: because literally she was having a just keep the alcohol
32:20
Speaker 2: pad like up there because it was making her kind
32:22
Speaker 2: of nauseous and it was making her lightheaded and dizzy.
32:24
Speaker 3: So for her not to pass out or to.
32:26
Speaker 2: Throw up the doc, the nurses were telling her just
32:29
Speaker 2: to like, keep it like right here.
32:31
Speaker 3: So she could just kind of like snip it.
32:33
Speaker 2: I didn't know that alcohol pads could help me from
32:35
Speaker 2: passing out and could help me from not getting nauseous.
32:37
Speaker 3: So, Hey, if you didn't know that now you do.
32:40
Speaker 2: Um, but, um, But outside of that, she's not feeling
32:44
Speaker 2: as nauseous this week coming home, but she is more tired.
32:49
Speaker 2: She is tired of getting the chemo already, but I
32:52
Speaker 2: keep telling her that just think about it this way.
32:55
Speaker 2: If you have to go once a week, once a
32:58
Speaker 2: month to stay here and raise your children and to
33:02
Speaker 2: be here, and I know how much it sucks, but
33:06
Speaker 2: think about like, would you prefer to be here and
33:09
Speaker 2: see your kids grow up? Cause our kids are 10
33:11
Speaker 2: and seven or would you prefer not to be here?
33:14
Speaker 3: Right.
33:15
Speaker 5: Right so she's yeah I know yeah I know that
33:18
Speaker 5: it's a hard pill to swallow even as her mom
33:21
Speaker 5: and I know if I'm having a hard time swallowing
33:23
Speaker 5: it then I know it's a hundred times harder for
33:25
Speaker 5: her to swallow the pill but I just have.
33:28
Speaker 3: To keep reminding her that I know that my husband.
33:30
Speaker 2: Keeps saying stop telling her that but I'm like I
33:34
Speaker 2: have to keep reminding her that because sometimes I feel
33:36
Speaker 2: like she wants to sometimes give up and you know
33:40
Speaker 2: I'm not give up but you know what I'm saying it's.
33:42
Speaker 1: Just course yeah it's hard it's so strenuous but yeah
33:46
Speaker 1: she has to think of her kids who really want
33:48
Speaker 1: her and need her and right obviously to fight as
33:51
Speaker 1: hard as possible has this um experience with um with
33:55
Speaker 1: anna getting sick has that made your whole family closer
33:58
Speaker 1: i know that you guys have struggled with being estranged
34:01
Speaker 1: from each other having some issues in the past.
34:04
Speaker 3: Yes, I would have to say that it does. It does.
34:07
Speaker 3: It has like helped us get along.
34:09
Speaker 2: Like last week, Pumpkin watched like Caitlin and like I
34:14
Speaker 2: walked during the week, but then like Pumpkin and Alana
34:17
Speaker 2: will come at least like one day of the week or,
34:20
Speaker 2: you know, like mainly it's just me and Justin that
34:22
Speaker 2: stay up there all week. So she doesn't have to
34:24
Speaker 2: drive back and forth because that is a round trip
34:27
Speaker 2: every day, five hours. And her body is so wore
34:30
Speaker 2: out after doing a treatment for five or six hours
34:33
Speaker 2: that get her in a car for two hours there
34:36
Speaker 2: and two hours back is a lot.
34:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. Of course. So you mentioned your new husband.
34:42
Speaker 1: How did you meet? His name is Justin Stroud, right?
34:45
Speaker 3: Yes. Yes. We actually met on TikTok.
34:50
Speaker 2: He was on the back of somebody's live and we
34:54
Speaker 2: just started talking as friends and I was one third.
34:57
Speaker 3: I was getting out of them. I had left a
34:58
Speaker 3: domestic violence situation and I was.
35:00
Speaker 2: Just getting to know who June Shannon was for the
35:03
Speaker 2: first time in my life. And he came in my
35:05
Speaker 2: life and literally, well, everybody was like spitting out in
35:08
Speaker 2: and out of my life. Like he was just staying there,
35:10
Speaker 2: but he didn't want nothing.
35:12
Speaker 3: He didn't, he didn't ask. He didn't, he wasn't.
35:15
Speaker 2: Trying to get anything from me. He wasn't trying to
35:17
Speaker 2: gain anything from me. He wasn't, he wasn't wanting anything,
35:21
Speaker 2: but like a friendship. And I was like, this is different. Like,
35:25
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? Like, cause in this industry,
35:28
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, I don't know if you've
35:29
Speaker 2: experienced this, which maybe you have or whatever, where like people,
35:33
Speaker 2: you feel like sometimes just want something or they're just
35:35
Speaker 2: around for like the benefits. And I've had that happen
35:39
Speaker 2: multiple times.
35:40
Speaker 3: Over the years.
35:41
Speaker 2: And he just, he didn't want anything. He was just
35:44
Speaker 2: wanting to say, Hey, how you doing? Like, and he
35:47
Speaker 2: knew no idea, like what was going on in my life.
35:49
Speaker 2: And I don't know, he would just like text and.
35:52
Speaker 3: Be like, Hey, how you doing? How's your day going?
35:54
Speaker 2: And like, we hung out a couple of times and he,
35:57
Speaker 2: He never did want nothing. And I was just like, okay, damn,
36:00
Speaker 2: this is intriguing. Like this person don't want nothing from me,
36:05
Speaker 2: but like a friendship or genuine, you know what I'm saying?
36:09
Speaker 2: And that's, that's been hard to find like over the
36:12
Speaker 2: years for me.
36:12
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure it's been really hard for you to
36:14
Speaker 1: trust people because obviously, I mean, as I know in
36:17
Speaker 1: my own life, um, when people think they know you
36:19
Speaker 1: from being such a public figure, you get it all wrong,
36:22
Speaker 1: but they also are obsessed with being in your life
36:24
Speaker 1: or being part of the story. So you get a
36:27
Speaker 1: lot of bad people in there. And then also, let's
36:30
Speaker 1: be honest, you haven't had the best picker with men.
36:32
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right.
36:34
Speaker 1: So you have a little bit of something to get
36:37
Speaker 1: over and finding the right one. So how did you know?
36:39
Speaker 1: Cause you haven't been married before, right? Even though you've
36:41
Speaker 1: dated a couple of men.
36:43
Speaker 3: Never. I don't like I don't know. There was just
36:46
Speaker 3: something different about him. Like when he told me, like when.
36:50
Speaker 2: We he kind of like we first met, I was
36:53
Speaker 2: staying with a mutual friend. Me and a mutual friend
36:55
Speaker 2: had got a house together and he came over to
36:58
Speaker 2: see him one morning and I like gave him a
37:02
Speaker 2: hug or whatever. And he told me I backed off
37:05
Speaker 2: of him. But I don't remember backing off of him
37:07
Speaker 2: like out of a hug. But like I did. I
37:09
Speaker 2: guess I did. But I told him, I said, you
37:11
Speaker 2: kind of like took my breath away. Like I kind
37:14
Speaker 2: of like when I hugged him, I kind of like
37:16
Speaker 2: felt like something, you know what I'm saying? Because I
37:18
Speaker 2: started kind of like liking him, you know, after like
37:20
Speaker 2: a few months of talking to him. But then the
37:23
Speaker 2: next weekend he came over and I kind of wanted
37:25
Speaker 2: to tell him that I kind of like liked him.
37:27
Speaker 3: But he told me.
37:28
Speaker 2: That he could tell that I was kind of like,
37:31
Speaker 2: crushing on him, but he didn't want to say nothing. So,
37:34
Speaker 2: but I waited like another whole nother month to even
37:37
Speaker 2: say anything to him. And then I came back from
37:40
Speaker 2: like Vegas and I actually ended up like immediately landing,
37:45
Speaker 2: coming home and saying, and went to his house like
37:49
Speaker 2: 11 o'clock at night. And when do you grab something
37:52
Speaker 2: to eat? And I was like, look, I need to
37:53
Speaker 2: like tell you something. Like, I really like you.
37:55
Speaker 3: And that was like September 17th. Um, and.
38:00
Speaker 2: About 2021 and literally like the 23rd of September.
38:05
Speaker 3: That's when he asked me to be his girlfriend. And
38:06
Speaker 3: that's pretty much the end of the story.
38:08
Speaker 1: And then how did he propose to you?
38:11
Speaker 3: I actually proposed to him.
38:13
Speaker 5: What?
38:13
Speaker 1: Oh my God. Amazing. How'd you do it?
38:16
Speaker 3: Um, actually like it was weird.
38:21
Speaker 4: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
38:24
Speaker 4: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
38:29
Speaker 4: before bed.
38:32
Speaker 1: Or two, you know.
38:34
Speaker 4: Nobody's watching. You deserve a treat. With eight flavours to
38:41
Speaker 4: choose from, you can choose the flavour you favour with
38:44
Speaker 4: Cadbury Dairy Milk.
38:51
Speaker 2: I just kind of, like, I had this whole, like, proposal, like,
38:54
Speaker 2: made out or whatever. But, like, sometimes life just doesn't
38:57
Speaker 2: happen like that. So he had actually went through, like, some, like,
39:05
Speaker 2: bullshit that happened, like, in the past. And he had
39:08
Speaker 2: got locked up. Well, he got out of jail or whatever.
39:11
Speaker 2: And when he got out of jail, I had asked
39:14
Speaker 2: him then... And I had.
39:16
Speaker 3: This whole proposal because we were in Florida. I was
39:18
Speaker 3: going to do it on the beach. I was going
39:19
Speaker 3: to do this nice, romantic thing.
39:21
Speaker 2: And I was like, shit, that all got, like, throw
39:23
Speaker 2: this shit in a handbasket and all.
39:24
Speaker 3: This other stuff.
39:25
Speaker 2: So when he got out, that's when I had asked him, like,
39:30
Speaker 2: and everything. And then it was shortly, like a month later,
39:34
Speaker 2: we got married. So we got married like six months
39:36
Speaker 2: after we met and we were married like, now a
39:39
Speaker 2: year and like a month. And we had our ceremony
39:43
Speaker 2: like back in February, like almost a year after we met. Oh,
39:46
Speaker 2: that's right.
39:47
Speaker 3: Cause you, you got.
39:48
Speaker 1: Married before you had the actual ceremony.
39:50
Speaker 3: Yes. Yes. A year prior to us having the ceremony. Right.
39:55
Speaker 4: Okay.
39:55
Speaker 1: So my biggest question about that is, are you happy now?
39:59
Speaker 3: Yes, I am extremely happy.
40:01
Speaker 2: Like even like we have been through so much shit
40:04
Speaker 2: in the last, honestly, on both sides, like we have
40:08
Speaker 2: been through so much shit together and I'll be honest
40:10
Speaker 2: with everybody like I tell him this all the time
40:14
Speaker 2: there's a lot of shit that we've been through like
40:17
Speaker 2: for instance like now with Anna going through stage four
40:19
Speaker 2: cancer it's a lot okay it is a lot for
40:24
Speaker 2: like us as a family like me pumpkin Alana and
40:27
Speaker 2: Jessica and everybody to deal with okay.
40:30
Speaker 3: It's a lot because I go through mood swings with
40:32
Speaker 3: it like some days I don't.
40:33
Speaker 2: Know whether to yell to cry to be happy to
40:35
Speaker 2: be mad to be sad to fucking cuss and yell
40:39
Speaker 2: at somebody.
40:40
Speaker 3: Okay.
40:41
Speaker 2: Like he has to deal with that in the day,
40:42
Speaker 2: but he does like, you know, so he's a good person.
40:45
Speaker 2: He stands right there and does it. And he's been
40:47
Speaker 2: emotional for him. You know what I'm saying? Because he's
40:49
Speaker 2: been in the picture now two years, like a lot
40:52
Speaker 2: of people would just like walk away from that, you know,
40:54
Speaker 2: because it'd be too much for them to handle because
40:56
Speaker 2: he's new to the relationship.
40:58
Speaker 3: Sure.
40:58
Speaker 2: I mean, there's been other circumstances. Like a lot of
41:01
Speaker 2: people didn't want us together to begin with two years ago.
41:03
Speaker 2: And we fought through all that for like six or
41:05
Speaker 2: seven months. Like there's just been so many situations that
41:09
Speaker 2: we have showed like people that we are still standing
41:11
Speaker 2: strong through to two years that most couples would not
41:15
Speaker 2: have made it through.
41:16
Speaker 1: Right.
41:17
Speaker 2: Right. And so like, we've showed people like, okay, y'all
41:20
Speaker 2: think y'all can break this, but no. And there's just
41:22
Speaker 2: been a lot of situations that, um, that a lot
41:26
Speaker 2: of couples I feel like would have done broke up
41:29
Speaker 2: this little, like little knickknack shit. Um, but we haven't,
41:33
Speaker 2: you know, and it's not like us for a personal
41:35
Speaker 2: stuff has went on in our life. It's just life
41:38
Speaker 2: situations that have came up that we just have fought
41:41
Speaker 2: through together.
41:41
Speaker 1: All four of your daughters came together to walk you
41:44
Speaker 1: down the aisle. But before that happened, were they, how
41:47
Speaker 1: did it go about you finally getting engaged to somebody
41:50
Speaker 1: and planning on getting married for the first time?
41:53
Speaker 3: Um, honestly, I did not tell them that I got
41:56
Speaker 3: married at the courthouse.
41:57
Speaker 2: I honestly kind of lied to them, even though Pumpkin
42:00
Speaker 2: got the wedding certificate at her house.
42:03
Speaker 3: I didn't know that she was supposed to get that.
42:04
Speaker 2: So I tried to get the court not to send
42:06
Speaker 2: her there, but she got it. And I'd still deny
42:11
Speaker 2: it because I didn't kind of want their judgment, if
42:13
Speaker 2: that makes sense. Um, but, um, You know, I kind
42:18
Speaker 2: of denied it for a little while because honestly, at
42:21
Speaker 2: that time, our relationship was kind of messed up at
42:23
Speaker 2: that point, too.
42:25
Speaker 3: And I just didn't want to hear the judgment of
42:27
Speaker 3: that either. Right.
42:29
Speaker 1: So how do they feel about each other now? All
42:32
Speaker 1: your kids?
42:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they all get along like they're cool,
42:36
Speaker 2: like they they like.
42:37
Speaker 3: Him, like they understand.
42:39
Speaker 2: I think that honestly, with him always wanting to help
42:44
Speaker 2: in any situation, whether it be something that's going on
42:48
Speaker 2: with pumpkin or now with the situation with Anna, like
42:51
Speaker 2: he has stepped up and he doesn't bitch about it.
42:54
Speaker 2: He doesn't complain about it. Like he's going to help.
42:58
Speaker 2: Or if there's something going on with like Jessica, or
43:00
Speaker 2: there's something going on with Alana, like he's just always
43:03
Speaker 2: like willing to help. And like in the past relationships,
43:06
Speaker 2: like he's not been there to want to help.
43:09
Speaker 1: Right.
43:09
Speaker 2: Right.
43:10
Speaker 3: Like, you know what I'm saying? Like in the past,
43:12
Speaker 3: like men haven't been wanting to help.
43:14
Speaker 2: Right.
43:14
Speaker 1: Exactly. So he's really stepped up as a partner since
43:17
Speaker 1: he's been.
43:17
Speaker 3: Really? Yeah.
43:19
Speaker 4: Yeah.
43:19
Speaker 2: Yeah.
43:19
Speaker 3: Especially like here lately.
43:21
Speaker 1: Like, you know, are you guys planning on having any
43:24
Speaker 1: more kids?
43:26
Speaker 3: Hell no. Alana is 18. Alana turns 18 in August.
43:30
Speaker 3: She's graduating. Hell no.
43:31
Speaker 2: He's got two kids. He's got a 13 year old
43:33
Speaker 2: and a four year old boy. So hell no.
43:38
Speaker 1: How often do you guys see those kids?
43:40
Speaker 3: Um, that's all in the work in a process too.
43:43
Speaker 2: So, but no, um, we, um, you know, like I said,
43:47
Speaker 2: we're both, both of us are in recovery. He's been,
43:49
Speaker 2: he's been clean. He's been clean for over two years
43:52
Speaker 2: and I've been clean for over three years. So, um,
43:56
Speaker 2: because when I actually met him, he had, he was
43:58
Speaker 2: actually coming out of a, um, recovery house too. So, um,
44:03
Speaker 2: we both have, we both understand the recovery part of it.
44:06
Speaker 3: Yeah.
44:06
Speaker 2: Um, and so everybody always says two recovery addicts cannot
44:10
Speaker 2: be together but we're proven to the world yes the
44:12
Speaker 2: fuck you can.
44:15
Speaker 1: Good i love to hear that so your new air
44:18
Speaker 1: your new show airs may 5th where does that show
44:20
Speaker 1: pick up in your life.
44:23
Speaker 2: Um the show picks up oh god damn what is
44:26
Speaker 2: i'm sorry um it picks up like right after me
44:30
Speaker 2: and pumpkin uh went to court so it peaks up
44:35
Speaker 2: um around um because people gotta realize um a lot
44:38
Speaker 2: of people start to think that the show is uh
44:42
Speaker 2: live live reality tv and it is not so we
44:46
Speaker 2: started filming last year around september of last year and
44:50
Speaker 2: we just stopped filming yesterday and which was May 18th
44:55
Speaker 2: or whatever.
44:57
Speaker 3: So people got to realize when you start seeing the
44:59
Speaker 3: show May 5th, it's all the way back to September.
45:03
Speaker 2: But we always do our live watch parties on our TikTok,
45:06
Speaker 2: which is.
45:07
Speaker 3: My official Mama June page.
45:09
Speaker 2: But like I said, if they cannot watch it there,
45:10
Speaker 2: they can always catch it on, they don't get like WeTV.
45:13
Speaker 2: You can always catch it on like YouTube TV.
45:16
Speaker 3: You can catch it on Follow. You can catch it
45:17
Speaker 3: on Sling TV. You can catch it on the YouTube,
45:21
Speaker 3: I mean the WeTV app.
45:22
Speaker 2: You can catch it on, you know, your Android box
45:25
Speaker 2: on 402 in Canada.
45:27
Speaker 3: There's multiple ways.
45:27
Speaker 2: To like watch our show, but yeah, it's just going
45:31
Speaker 2: to catch up with that. And then you're going to
45:33
Speaker 2: be able to see our wedding. You're going to be able,
45:35
Speaker 2: I can't give away too many details, but you know,
45:38
Speaker 2: you're going to be able to see a lot of stuff.
45:40
Speaker 2: There's going to be a lot of stuff. You're probably
45:42
Speaker 2: going to crop out a lot of, you know, stuff
45:45
Speaker 2: that we went through this year that has put us,
45:49
Speaker 2: to where me and the girls are today. And it's
45:51
Speaker 2: going to bring y'all to speed. And I think a
45:54
Speaker 2: lot of people are going to relate to a lot
45:57
Speaker 2: of real life stuff and a lot of, a lot
46:00
Speaker 2: of promises, a lot of, a lot of emotional and
46:04
Speaker 2: mental journey that we went on this, this year. A
46:08
Speaker 2: lot of our mental and emotional and, and self, self,
46:13
Speaker 2: journeys we went on this year. And that's what is
46:15
Speaker 2: showing like a lot of our self.
46:17
Speaker 3: Journeys that we went on this year. Um, and just
46:20
Speaker 3: working on ourselves, if that makes sense.
46:22
Speaker 1: So, of course. So do you like being a reality star?
46:25
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like you do because you can
46:27
Speaker 1: bring the world along with you as you go through
46:29
Speaker 1: life and you guys almost don't have to do it alone.
46:31
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it comes with a lot of haters, right?
46:35
Speaker 1: Do you feel happy that you're given this opportunity to
46:37
Speaker 1: continue your life on camera?
46:40
Speaker 2: You know, like I tell people all the time, it's
46:42
Speaker 2: got its ups and it's got its downs. You know,
46:44
Speaker 2: some days, you know, you want to tell the cameras,
46:47
Speaker 2: you know, come on in.
46:49
Speaker 3: But then I'm.
46:50
Speaker 2: Sure some days, just like in your life, you want
46:52
Speaker 2: to tell the cameras to F off.
46:54
Speaker 3: You know, you got those days.
46:57
Speaker 2: But the most important thing I tell people is when
47:02
Speaker 2: that person messages me on Instagram or when that person
47:05
Speaker 2: sees me out in public and they say, Thank you
47:08
Speaker 2: for telling your story.
47:10
Speaker 3: I didn't walk that journey by myself or thank you.
47:12
Speaker 2: You helped my family through a situation or, oh my God,
47:15
Speaker 2: I didn't go through that alone. Or, oh my God,
47:17
Speaker 2: I can relate to you in so many ways. That's
47:20
Speaker 2: what makes it all worth it for us.
47:21
Speaker 3: So those days that we want to tell somebody to
47:24
Speaker 3: F all.
47:25
Speaker 2: Then those days, those days help us push those comments
47:30
Speaker 2: or those messages help us push through. those those rough
47:34
Speaker 2: days that we don't want to don't want to let
47:38
Speaker 2: cameras in our life you know yeah i mean everybody
47:42
Speaker 2: has those diva moments i don't care who you are
47:45
Speaker 2: you have those diva.
47:46
Speaker 3: Moments right because we're human we are human at the
47:49
Speaker 3: end of.
47:50
Speaker 1: The day um and so so you guys are actually
47:54
Speaker 1: watching your dms and responding to your comments yourself which.
47:58
Speaker 3: Matters yeah Yes, yes.
48:01
Speaker 2: We listen to our own emails. We answer our own
48:05
Speaker 2: Instagram messages, everything. So when you get a response from us,
48:09
Speaker 2: you're getting a response from us. You're not getting a
48:11
Speaker 2: response from anybody else.
48:13
Speaker 1: So if you're looking at those comments, you're also seeing
48:15
Speaker 1: all the... kind of haters that write stuff.
48:18
Speaker 3: And then, I mean, they get a block and delete.
48:22
Speaker 2: They do.
48:22
Speaker 1: Okay. That's interesting because I mean, even in my own life,
48:26
Speaker 1: you know, for me, it's been hard because there could
48:28
Speaker 1: be a hundred amazing comments about how you've changed somebody's
48:31
Speaker 1: life or how much they love you or how beautiful
48:33
Speaker 1: you are. And then that one comment that's awful will
48:36
Speaker 1: sting and get into your head and erase all the
48:39
Speaker 1: good that's in there. How do you and your daughters
48:42
Speaker 1: feel with that?
48:43
Speaker 3: Well, okay, I will be honest with you.
48:45
Speaker 2: When this adventure first started, oh my God, I used
48:48
Speaker 2: to cuss out and be mad at everybody. Just on
48:51
Speaker 2: every little thing. I used to cuss out everybody. I
48:54
Speaker 2: used to fuss at everybody. I used to be mad
48:56
Speaker 2: at everybody. All the negative comments. It could be 5
48:59
Speaker 2: million amazing comments, but like you said, that one comment
49:02
Speaker 2: that was just like.
49:04
Speaker 3: Ugh, you know what I'm saying? And there still does.
49:06
Speaker 2: I guess since the ones now so much, like with
49:10
Speaker 2: Anna or The ones that state that really the days
49:13
Speaker 2: that I'm having those emotional days.
49:16
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
49:16
Speaker 2: Where I don't know whether to cry or to be
49:18
Speaker 2: mad or whatever. Those are the days that those hateful
49:21
Speaker 2: comments really get to me. And I'll just tell my husband,
49:23
Speaker 2: I'll be like, for real these people are really getting
49:26
Speaker 2: on my damn nerves and that's when I have to
49:28
Speaker 2: like log out of Instagram you know what I'm saying
49:30
Speaker 2: because like I have to leave I have to leave
49:32
Speaker 2: the message alone because those are the days that I'll
49:34
Speaker 2: probably nut up on somebody and they'll sell the thing
49:36
Speaker 2: to TMZ and be like mama June cussed me out
49:39
Speaker 2: oh well yep I sure did cuss your ass out
49:41
Speaker 2: because of what you put on what you sent me
49:43
Speaker 2: but I mean and I would say something like that
49:46
Speaker 2: in a message on Instagram and give them their little
49:48
Speaker 2: five seconds of fame But I just click and now
49:51
Speaker 2: I've learned to click out. But when I first started
49:54
Speaker 2: this first two years, I would do that. So now
49:58
Speaker 2: I just have to learn to disconnect and say that
50:01
Speaker 2: there might be a there might be 20 stupid comments,
50:06
Speaker 2: but there's a thousand fans that love you and that
50:09
Speaker 2: you have changed their life and that know what you're
50:12
Speaker 2: going through. Because I honestly didn't know who you were
50:16
Speaker 2: and I had to look you up. I mean, I'm
50:18
Speaker 2: going to be honest with you. I looked you up
50:20
Speaker 2: and I seen some of your story and I promise
50:23
Speaker 2: you what you went through. And, you know, I'm almost
50:27
Speaker 2: going to throw it out there being the side piece.
50:29
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's been other women in the side piece
50:31
Speaker 2: and done the same way. So, you know, I'm sure
50:34
Speaker 2: a lot of people can relate to you on.
50:35
Speaker 3: That, too.
50:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, 100 percent. And that's why I'm.
50:38
Speaker 2: Not trying to I'm not trying to be mean on that,
50:40
Speaker 2: but I.
50:41
Speaker 3: Had to do it.
50:42
Speaker 2: Like, I'm sure there's a lot of women that can
50:44
Speaker 2: relate to your story, just like they can relate to
50:46
Speaker 2: my story and went through what you went through.
50:48
Speaker 3: Yeah.
50:49
Speaker 1: And also to realize that, like, there's so much more
50:51
Speaker 1: to your story than the one thing.
50:53
Speaker 3: That people think that.
50:55
Speaker 1: You should be judged for.
50:56
Speaker 2: Right.
50:56
Speaker 1: Which is this platform, too. So that brings me to
51:00
Speaker 1: the next question. What's the biggest misconception that you want
51:03
Speaker 1: to clear up in your life about your past, about
51:06
Speaker 1: your current situation? What do you think is most misunderstood
51:10
Speaker 1: about you?
51:12
Speaker 2: The most misconception that I think is most thing is
51:15
Speaker 2: that one, that just because I did drugs or I
51:23
Speaker 2: gained back the weight or I gave Alana to Pumpkin
51:28
Speaker 2: when I couldn't take care of my own self, that
51:31
Speaker 2: doesn't make me a bad person. And people do change.
51:34
Speaker 2: And you shouldn't judge a book by its cover. Get
51:37
Speaker 2: to know who that person is truly. Because like she said,
51:41
Speaker 2: like you shouldn't be judged by just that one story
51:45
Speaker 2: that you read on somebody, because when you actually get
51:48
Speaker 2: to know who that person is deep down, that person
51:50
Speaker 2: can be the most amazing person. And that person, you,
51:55
Speaker 2: you know, honestly, if you got to know who I was,
51:57
Speaker 2: I'm the most giving person, the most person that will
52:00
Speaker 2: go to bat for you, that will do stuff for you.
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Speaker 3: I have done.
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Speaker 2: So much stuff like off the internet that I did
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Speaker 2: not need to, but like, I do honestly. like love
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Speaker 2: my children. I do do a lot for my, you know,
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Speaker 2: my community. I do a lot like in the recovery community,
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Speaker 2: all this stuff. So I do tell people that if
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Speaker 2: you really want to get to know me, don't be like, oh,
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Speaker 2: she's disgusting. Oh, she lost weight, but now she's gained
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Speaker 2: it back. Or, oh my God, she's still using drugs. Well,
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Speaker 2: if I was still using drugs, I wouldn't be around
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Speaker 2: my children today.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? And I wouldn't be on
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Speaker 3: the screen. I wouldn't be doing this. I wouldn't be
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Speaker 3: doing that. So I do tell people that just because
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Speaker 3: you hear some bull crap about people doesn't mean that
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Speaker 3: it's fully who that person is.
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Speaker 2: 100%.
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Speaker 1: I love the answer. So what's next for you? Anything
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Speaker 1: that you have in the next year or two years
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Speaker 1: that you really want to do and accomplish?
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Speaker 2: Um, honestly, people ask me that all the time and
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Speaker 2: I have learned, um, especially in the last couple of months,
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Speaker 2: never to plan out your future.
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Speaker 3: Um, because you never know what tomorrow could throw at you.
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Speaker 3: I thought I had a.
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Speaker 2: Plan, what I wanted to do in the next five years. Um,
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Speaker 2: but honestly, I don't even know what tomorrow can bring.
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Speaker 2: So right now I'm just kind of just like, okay,
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Speaker 2: I know what I'm doing for the next month, but
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Speaker 2: I can't tell you what I'm going to be doing
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Speaker 2: in the next year. But I know that I'm going
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Speaker 2: to make the best of what I can make of it.
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Speaker 3: Whatever comes my way, I'm just going to like do it.
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Speaker 2: And I think that if you plan too far in advance,
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Speaker 2: it's great to have long-term goals.
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Speaker 3: I think everyone should have those.
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Speaker 2: Do that, but also make small goals in between those
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Speaker 2: long-term goals to reach that long-term goal. Because if you
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Speaker 2: can reach the small goals, those long-term goals will be
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Speaker 2: very achievable.
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Speaker 1: I think that's such a good answer because when you
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Speaker 1: live day-to-day, you're present. You know what I mean? Because
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Speaker 1: if you put something way far out there, you get
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Speaker 1: really distracted in, in between and you're really not present
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Speaker 1: in what you're doing and who you're with and where
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Speaker 1: you are right now. And so I think that's actually
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Speaker 1: really a great.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, what, what I did is I started getting
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Speaker 2: lost in that, like planning, like stuff like six months,
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Speaker 2: seven months ahead. And I started to, and I guess
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Speaker 2: that like, and I know this sounds so bad, but
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Speaker 2: I felt like God was, like, seeing that, because I'm
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Speaker 2: not a Bible thumper by no means, by no damn ain't, but, like,
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Speaker 2: I mean, I believe in everything else, but I'm not
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Speaker 2: gonna see him be, like, Bible thumping, but, like, I
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Speaker 2: think that, like, like, it was seen that way, and, like,
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Speaker 2: it was kind of, like, him just, like, yanking me, like, okay,
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Speaker 2: you're getting, like, you're getting way too far ahead and
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Speaker 2: you're just not being present. And I could feel that
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Speaker 2: within myself. Like I was, I was doing life, but
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Speaker 2: I wasn't, I was just there. Does that make sense?
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: Cause like a lot of, a lot of people I
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Speaker 2: think get like that, like you're there, but you're not there.
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Speaker 3: And I felt like that. And then I guess like
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Speaker 3: a few months ago when all of this is like,
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Speaker 3: there was.
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Speaker 2: There was, there was a couple other situations, but it
55:20
Speaker 2: was just like life kind of like smacked me in
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Speaker 2: the head.
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Speaker 3: It was like Anna and then a couple other things happened.
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Speaker 2: And, it was like, whoa, okay, I need to slow
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Speaker 2: my ass down because I'm planning shit too far in advance.
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Speaker 3: Like I just need to be right here.
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Speaker 2: Right, right.
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Speaker 1: And you have so much going on. All right, so
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Speaker 1: So I've loved speaking to you. It's very clear that
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Speaker 1: in speaking to you, you are much different than how
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Speaker 1: some people can portray you in news articles and on TV.
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Speaker 1: And you've obviously done a lot of work on yourself
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Speaker 1: to get to where you are now. I wish you
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Speaker 1: the best of luck with everything in your life, your family,
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Speaker 1: your marriage. I really am praying for Anna and her,
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Speaker 1: you know, for her to feel better and any sort
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Speaker 1: of recovery. And We wish Alana the best getting through
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Speaker 1: her graduation. So please take care of yourself. And honestly,
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Speaker 1: I wish you the best.
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