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Mihwar Podcast - Hukum Hakam Wanita · Mihwar Podcast

• 0:30
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so zi.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_01: Hmm Tabiska rang uh topic the theme.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_02: So macham judo, so get it as dingita, musewa in the pran and one it has to be a chanic, such other general and cloa bogaji.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, colour single to my German colour to my German.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, Jedi uh swollen stuff.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, Daddy, uh firstly I think it's appropriate n to young lion yang.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: But uh truth go to this segment and to go to the previous segment, okay.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_01: Kita ni alhamdulillah, agam islam ni kitum tradition of scholars, mane ulama rasabaga, then kitun bug do mazahip.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_01: Mazab mazab, dadi yam prominent adalah, mazab shafi, mazab humbali, mazab maliki, ni mazab hanafi.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_01: Okay of usum barkry ntu wanita, colo yikok by the kas classical fake, right?
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_01: They are the classical fake.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_01: Panapanya de la tida bully.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_02: Walom single.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, colo yuk panapat lam classical fig.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: Dangabi sulu, eh?
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: Classical fig.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, the disab thing of the lam uh mazab uh dala.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_01: Sub young manchari okay, nafka rasbaga, kolong to single a la bapa.
• 2:42
  unknown: Okay.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh young tela habrkahuin adela?
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: Swami.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: Swami.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the D D C two colour tita de ka plu one.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: Make ta bagi.
• 2:52
  unknown: Okay.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh tapi kita kan imagin, eh?
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: So ni yang mke na kalata chong.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_01: Kita imagin at that point of time.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_01: At that point of time, editing.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: Kita at that point of time, kita imagine kita hido dalamzama niang, kita ta' the police, kita ta' the uh governing uh body for the whole world.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_01: Ma niang example kita ka Singapore ni kita kloa Singapore there's no governing body yang manjaga tangpati to kolo orang na buno bunoje.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so there's no governing body outside of it.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so that's where other that kind of danger uh so colour imagine that situation.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_01: Would you want your daughter, your wife to go work?
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, in the chaos.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_01: So that's where this classical faith is, that's unto zamani too.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, tapi paraman skarang ni, uh ulama mgatakan di bulhikan, so bad other security, other ka amanda.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_01: Kumadisini kita bilakita ting o kung fake, kita na ting.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh dadi, one thing young sayena uh yanguna emphasize bilakita ting of hukum fake, wala pul kita ting or the logic the o skarangni, aman, skarangni uh safe, daddy uh gila, burkirji rasbaganya ta pikitalihat, apun nabi son salam katakan.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, dabi dadi kolakitalihat, okay, nabi zong salam subrananya are the hadith.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, mgatakan bhaw sabrananya di bulehikan to kurji.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_03: Oh.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_01: Ah the hadith, okay daddy uh daddy pa de hadith sainajabir bin Abdullah, Mgatakan Bahwa Machinya Baru Burcharae.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, Dari Machinya Baru Burcherai.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: Mach seine Jabir.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, dari Dina Mwai Kurumala.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: Kriji akara klua, bnuikurma.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_01: So are the orang adilaki to mularangde, the jankujangi.
• 4:59
  unknown: I see.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: Ah Tabi Nabi Songatang, then Nabi Jacup, Kokurje, Kob Tuaila, Kurmani, Mak Harap nya, Punwaiani, the Kokara Padweit, then Kobuli Bersaka, Ata Kobuli Lakukab Kareembay Ngadwitni.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_01: Jadidi Dari Pad Hadis Nabi Sol Sala Ngatakan Bahu.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_01: Bully Bakaji.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_01: Tabika Napa Fiki Ulama Ulma Casical Fix a Cap Janganas Maganya Mukin, Zamani too, A the uh put number Bahai de Resbaga as a general rule colour at that point of time.
• 5:32
  unknown: Okay.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Ketapi colo example a colo uh swami turluo oneita to burkaji bakaj bakedi bully cana.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh tapi kita la paliha hadis nabisama to sindiri nabi che bully.
• 5:46
  unknown: Okay.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_01: Uh chumaskara bilikita che la kita kita tang navigate sa to situa sini.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: So, machamano.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, jadi, nabisika bully.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_01: So, as a general, belikita di hat in the bigger view, actually is muba.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: Harus, unto onita tu bakajer.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_01: A tapi colo dalam kada an, bahyye dan sabagay nya, maker janga bakajala.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_01: Tapikolo dalam kada an uhlunya de bakajja, maker karakana ye bulli jadi prik per wajibla.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, sabab mukina manulong la sabagaine.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, zadi as a general rule is haros.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_01: Tapi, different situations are the different ruling on that.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_02: Tabi bilikukate okay, machab j to bilika and kite ta mungizingan.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_02: Bile kate ta' buli tu atde kahdi ja tu pad de haramgato jaml.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's the thing, coloralam classical fake.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: Daddy is the thing, wa kite ka na understand the situation to kite ka na understand fake.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: The di fake as a general rule, colour tinga, hadis nabi sanab, dibule kana.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_01: Tabi kolori hai kba situa si, mukin situa si zaman imam che uh humbali kanya bila ye the established ka topun any uh ulama, even contemporary adi ya mga ka ta'bule, kita kan understand where they are coming from la.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: I canalihat uh dali lali yang line.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, the situasi yang line.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_01: This is where na that's why fake colour kita ting o the tradition, adala kim matul fang, adala the peak of understanding.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_01: So kita abli ting, uhbule.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_01: Ojika bulea bule, sumu boule.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, tabuli ya dikana blihat, bode situasi.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yang, but but the most important thing, kita dasar kan pokaraitu, then gan hadith nabi atapun aya kuraim.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: Kita de nabis andade wanita tu, yang na manuwaikur madu boule.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, chumadi in different situations, mkin, a de different hadith at a different narration, nah, that's where kite kanalihat putol.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: Tapi as a general rule bully.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: Tapikolo na cheap ten tang uh histri.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: A kala histri, kalakita lihat.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_02: Kopikima samasa, najawa.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, neh ade, ade.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: Ahamwila dare deh.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_01: Kala ka darul iftak mistriya de leta.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_01: Ahamwila darul iftak mistriya de bagi comprehensive.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: So kalao histri tu se bulom dia kawin daila taq sara.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: Aku kawin kawni tapya kuna kaju.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_01: Maka swami ta'adu ta'a de hak mtu la rang de kajo, even afin.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: So ba dila ta' m sharat?
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_01: Tapida lam uhuknikas mobibuli kala ta sala.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: A topun, shito shikudu.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: Tapi de dabakaj.
• 8:34
  unknown: Okay.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, kere wanita tu me mang dabakaj subulum de covin.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: Tapita sharat.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh bilakovin ta' sara kuko covinga kun nap kju, de talat sharat.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: Jaddy shara itubun, dalam shit touchitubun, swami ta hunto chak tabli kage.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh dalam uh the fikida touch shot uh dumni ya manya, the macham double uh taula sabanita tu me manda biasu bakju.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: And the send and the two I understand I guess and come nak kawin okay then kada nan pak wanita tu me mang double kajje.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: So itu adala naruli dan gukia sa andiye.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: Ya riko tachka papa ta kaupan ta bulli rasbaga, baku we take it as bat nany kos two ju the bakuje.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: So at that situation, swami tapbuli la rang.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: And lastly, of course, uh kala de wiman taqpun na bakajula.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: Jadi adhatwa yang kasitu mgata kan uh swami to uhtuk beri easy na to tina.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: Tapi understand juga, yang knappu, sabab munkin wanita to ta pangala man jadi swami to yang assess the situation for her.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: Tapi dasar asar bully.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, tapi yang knappu kananda pa easy niya ni muk kana che naba ezen sabab wanita tu a to history to yang taak p na bakaje, dita pangala man kalwa.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: Ah jadi bila de ting o kje.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: So swami tua kana ting o la kje to ke kiti da khbaga nyala.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh then from there he maybe have a collective decision, okay.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: Then we can bakaj.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_01: Tapita suma sinyye, swami abuse, dh miya de kana assess situation too responsibly la.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, situation duh bajangan taqbagi tapi ta' any alasan taq de any sabab taqbagi.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh to bung kana take into account kira kubi swa answer gh, legal.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: Suma ng lager.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_02: Bajam kabi kushi ka bigum, uh swami yesika but uh yeah.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: So the can uh the so swami uh jalankan mia tangu, ng assessol, uh g reasoning yang patol, then uh one itapun uh to history at the third situation, pon can uh can uh do the my own due diligence, kin katakana.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: So that's about this clip can have thing full thing half half one.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, uh because for me pon initially la kila.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm chariot, like from home girl, like I was she's uh tutor.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: So online bumble and writing bully if kalogitu.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's like please go ahead, do ma because it makes you happy.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: If it makes you happy, then do la.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: But kalao da ma jam to a certain extent, kalao din na kaju macham yang da gita punya family punya time ka po then of course I will kira macham encourage or macham apun na siha kanat.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_00: Mayala, kiramjam kiang, do it too kapu, kita pula budget budget.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: Because to me yung important is our family time more than the money lay.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: Money kita bully budget budget.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: Tapi cala family time when it is lost, that is when we sacrifice our quality of life together.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, to me, that is more important than ki.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: So the thing and the smaller jadi, uh care for the children.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: So that's where that's where that's why kit, uh hukum ntukwanita, to ta adhere hukum wajip oneita bakje.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: A the haros uh encourage, kalao swami tu adalangsuhan, encourage, tapita adu wajib.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: Swapu, munkin, swa inya de la kitakatakan, agamung tapon ajaranabi so salaman.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yangatawi, tentang na luri manushi, rasbaga, yang datawiang wanitaatu, de me mang adh more inclination to mung jagu n to family mun ten jagun to anana nasbaga.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: So no that's the beauty of kita uli katakan, ajaran nabiso ma.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: Atkomta bayas vlak.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_02: Kira mang apa se bile da kawitu mima dikita skija, lapas tu kira mjam tikata kila de tanagaju, then akwasa akumunta isala.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_02: Basa pandeni ma jam tulah ma cham bilika kiti tata basapranga punas baganya.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_02: Was a kalokita clear then basu de pran and lucky to mjamana pranga and upper wanita tu ma chamana, de dajadis nagan.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_02: Basa of course machakito, kila colo the single to ta masala.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_02: N was a single color in upkaju, put as bagane smoke and of course kid machakaloji tigadi, kita um to bakaju to tajimasala.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: Tapika lakita macham swami strinia wasika losiswami ni kita ta wta munja wapajam nafka that's bagany to mimata swami.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_02: Bas two kira colo se to me man upkaja dip sil again.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_02: Tapical de tana apagaja, kita rasa chamimang nafka nimi mang na was lika wongita blimita weight again.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: Tapikita to nafka to kakita tu lang.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_02: Nebi ma umaku kita po part time kila, inshalla.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_02: Pandaya, when they need uh the say canad fake uh can fake two first time bully.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: Mazo de cru abajir.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: Tapi knew of course new to oneita young uh colour situation.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_01: Tapi at least a de kitana part, nabiso samsikup, no juddi uhset nah la kita denat two i krum to the dee neb what la?
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: What uh jagala rangela?
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: So okay, kalogitikate okay, machang kitany.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_02: Kalo machum travel.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_02: Bukajetu munkin logic nikita kanga kete pasel a dikwan, uh.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_02: Kalata mimana kana.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_02: Bukaj do eight up with bagany.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: Tabikalo travel to mungne.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so colo travel again again uh fiki, kita travel and duh.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I did do upanga.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why again, uh kite kana s dalam situasi zoman's karan, kiteka na understand, kiteka na liha duo panagandu.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay se bab kite ta tingal ka kampong lagi.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: Kita ta tingal kat sa tu tongpa eje, dang kita tau situasi satumpa, kita tau situasi the whole of the world skang.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: Kita Instagram suma ygan.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: Dikite kana understand the situation.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: So, kitaliha ade hadis namisan salam, and this is prominent that Nabisan Salam Gatakan, la tusafir imbroa illa ma'di mahram.
• 16:07
  unknown: Okay.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: Dini adalah satu hadis namisalam gatakan, tidaala bersafar so orang wanita, kachwali bursama orang maharam.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, separti, so minya, separti, bapunya, separti, adibradi ira, separti, pachi.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, ajadi, tapik, kollo kitali hadis hadis, mimang clear katli ya.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_02: Ni padangan yang?
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_02: Padangang tama, kre clear cutang.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: Padangba tababika, tabuli kle cut.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: Banani kolan travel, kinanangan.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: Aba, kranangga adi, ngang swami, atok kdenangan, uhipachi la.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, Jadi uhadang batama.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: So panangan kudu mgatakan uhdi bulekan.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, kanapa di bulhika, ng m interesting.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_01: So but the hadis nabis no slam.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: Nabis oslam mgatakan uh nabis o slam mgatakan kabade uhdi binhatim.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: So adi bin hati la hat sabat nabisoslam.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, the mangatakan uh either fain paul let's be haya kala umo komanjang, kala umo kopanjang La tarayan na zwaina ayy al musafir.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: Kalaka nampa so orangya musafir.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: Musafir wanita.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: Tara tahilu minal hairo.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, de rehlah, de pergi birjalan daripa hirah hironi dai satu uhutu dari Ira okay Hatta tatufa bil ka'fa tatufa dari de travel so wrang Tambaikawa.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: La tafan the tafufu a hadan illa.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: Bulibagi, the tata kuchali alla.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, the another had another anarish mata khan hat ta tatufabil bite firi jiwari aha.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: The bugi tawa kawa so the ta the ta is she's not accompanied with anyone.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_01: And Nabizan Taska, oh haram to deh.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: Nab Akan Bulagu, and the akan bobnatul and the sini tatakan di boleh kan taripa the hadis two.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so dia do karala kitana partamana truth how true nabizan salam we katakatu.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_01: At that point of time, we sabab susana oneita at that point of time go through parangpa sew rang the zabaga, then the ripa the Iraq lagi jowagi, awipagi puggi muka, bi so rang travel, tapi nabishap, akan satum satumasoto akara tang karitu.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: And ye butu bulaku, and a bit then the hadisni, uh paru uloma mungatakan, di bulekan.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: Ah the machemana kitana combine between these two hadis, because napa the contradiction.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: Satu shak nabisakup, tabule, sakiska bule, then maker thisini, ulama, tunis are lapuna bakatigga, uh, kidakuna katig.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: So ad sakabule, tabule, adiscabule, yamperna pac katigue, mangatakan, kalaude aman into depergi, makebule.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: Aman into depergi, then the pat prostujonb the wali atop ore manjagude maku bulle.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh prostuontu basonya do do their due due diligence, untuli heart kas kaslamatandu, makedi bulikan.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: Kala taqslamat, maku go to de la to safir emroa illa ma'di mahram.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, dali kolo taqs lamat, makupergi ringan orang.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: Danjuga la isatu, yang mangatakan boule, uh this bapkan uh bilbergihajaji, ng sida isha make bilu make a pergi kula, uh pegihaji, make a bergiah, tadu mahram uh makeup sam, rama ngan wonita yang lane, and jugumrikata mahram, the di maku liha kwa tizara tu kolo kala ta bulli, mustya the sahba is got jangan.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: Uh tapi even parazam senda osuma, the mase na umar, pon mika berghi haji, the group la.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: You go with a group, it means that you go with safety maku at the tick.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, tapi uh I think panabab everybody I take the third one.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: Kala slamat, then bully pagi nabgi so rang we tapi make your due diligence lamat better to go with someone.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: So daddy, you said yang the third opinion is a law dean and make due diligence again.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: But even after that, consult with your maharamgan.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, so so uh I say the third opinion mg suma sine da pa easyin', tapi masunya easy atomwa fakko wali to itu adela atas dasarka amana nozo.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: But na yeah wali to atok a guardian to the na kunabgi uh certain place la uhla ja the treatan.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: Jedi my persujua ni atas dasarka amanan.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: So me myself, okay, when a wali stuju or to a guardian stuju unto bari anathapugi, mustarasaka amanandu.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: So he's feel safe.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so that that is where uh, kita gunakani uto kita's gab eh, kita kita gunakani unto uh Sajutara Pagi ta adala mwa faka tu, ato pasujuantu, adela untu kites niri wali nikitani, kita kana assess the mir ka aman and juga.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: So, the third opinion is more on benetu aman katita.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not just on the responsibility of the woman or lady, it's also on the responsibility.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Responsibility of the Maharamatoe.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: This is where I want to uh highlight easy in too.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: The aura ya bagi is in too, knee responsible also.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's not safe for you.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, so baby, or tompani zaman, or musim the example, the sarula.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: So, you can use the same thing.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: So, not very safe for you.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so mercy at the bury a pana dear that logical reason, especially nowadays, so that's where I say the third opinion, they have more kabadika aman.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: So called the aman, ta'aman, janambu.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: So to colour the travel.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_02: So the two major bully travel bully.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I think so far we know that everyone is uh obligatory for them to ilmula.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: But nowadays, the internet, so we see some countries young put a ban.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: They put a ban on women to study and to go for higher education.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: So ilmoni actually just blah, anything about life, higher education, taper lula.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what this country, I think you call Google, young uh ban okay, this uh woman to actually go for higher education.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: So this is where just na upon clear that in Islam, okay, actually.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and this is not just from the Hadith Young Talal Bul Ilmi Fari, Muslim Muslima, that the Mununtu Lin mutu adalasa tu pkare young wajib, mutu so orang Muslim, na so ora Muslima.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but also Pareza Bisan Salam.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: Aduplohan uh Muftiya.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh okay, from Sayyidatina na Aisha, Sayyidina Umusalama, Sayyidina Faltima, Sayyidatina Fatima bin Kais.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: So basically, paya.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: Because I think uman uh how to do that.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: So moved mumbari kira mumbari fatwa.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: Kira the idea of your own opinion and give uh fatwa on that particular thing.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: So of course it's not like fatwa skara fatwa committees.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: Can be that way also, but this one is the main point is mika de ilmu.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: So this is where uh unto oneita manita yamunon ton.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: This is where kitabulihat, even padsalam, mrike to atomita tu ade ilmu.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: And not just uh lalaki, tapi manita juga.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: Subap for myself la i risao oranampa, okay, Islam actually pada awal nya taqbagi wanita ntu ilmu, uh which is not true.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: And this is where we go back to the punya siwa, dua to domir tu banya kabele laki, tapi actually ta, actually the practical way at laku adalah, banya wanita, bada zaman na vis on salamtu, ilmu.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so I think that that that is the thing that I think we need to clear things out la.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think there's no question that no tutu ilmu to adalasa to uh encourage and obligatory, even for this is kira Swalan body gira macham kalau travel blah jah.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_00: This one gira kalao oneita, na blaja self-defense.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: Kira macham back to the topic of woman warrior fight fight abus mwa ka lag na blaja to kiraba defend themselves.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: You have any opinion gh atopo na the ho kumga wuga?
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: I think kire kala personal opinion, kira personal opinia, kita buleli habb jara, jara saidina nusaiba, nabi sang ta la rang.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, tatlarang muto defend nabi sang lang, then go to the go to the I think it's not just some even take the horse to actually just go fight and so I think uh itu takbule, nabi, the sakab si too no, you cannot no go fight, you cannot do this, do that, right?
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I think uh my opinion is.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: Because in our culture, in South Asian culture, in Malay culture, uh Banda tu ta you know, I'm not gonna have to panang manis la.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like even for my daughter, just kidding.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: So from there, my my mother does it, eh?
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: So I ever show Moroccan player, my my mother, uh, jangana from my daughter.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's the thing, that's why.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, as a general.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: Tapi, when you are going into this situation with the culture that's of Indonesia, and more kitten cultures need.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: So how you approach it?
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that's important.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: Kita oh, uh Islamia to no, we have to say, you know, nine, uh, so that's where we have to navigate it properly, yeah.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so even like for the parents also, how do you approach this?
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: How do you tell her?
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: No, I think that's it, the bigger issue.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: So that is the issue who I think no problem.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: So kalonajab, kolo kitap bully, then kite langa, yeah, then I would say that who kom kalakatsitu, who kom to maybe kita makru ato jango bagitua.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: Can think of a better way of how to approach this uh thing la.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: I think going back to what you say la chang jag money san attapun, ka san to nanwani tala, kana.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, ta pa ya pun, but certain situation kita ta uli la, nagana defend the video.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: But I think it's important for us to know blah is one thing la, gira pa cham self-defense for a woman is one thing, self-defense for a man is what another thing.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yang la kira oh, prongpoon na blaja self-defense, throws it.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: There's many ways, fight young pompon.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: But the neapon gira for me, because I'm also trained in uh martial art la so mucham to me, I I am trying not to get like a woman to give money and come to a situation which can fight a woman.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: There's ways for a woman to defend themselves.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: For now, one of it is just shout, ask for help.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: But another thing is you can use weapons.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: For a woman, if you want to use your strength, of course, but you can uh for self-defense you can unchamma penga burgan it's a weapon.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, there are things that for a woman that they can learn, haram can through self-defense.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, there are ways for them to learn and do something about it and not gira mja o ng nanko see yo so I think I think I think I might conclude it very well that is when you add in certain things practice, maybe so that's where martial art doesn't the external factor where you are fighting with a man or where maybe the ta'mane s to oneita to that's where uh this is where fake comes in.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_01: Can do with anything.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: No, you learn situation, and that's why for myself I I like to share.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_01: So my do open apart the lung situation, at the end of the day, you are the one who choose.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, you choose but with knowledge, with understanding.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: I think the g of it goes back to Sijara, Sijara So when Saidatina Musayba, not protect Nabi so protecting show off.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: I mean not show off just for the sake of show off, the purpose.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: What's the purpose?
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: To protect Nabi Salam.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: So similarly when dinna blaja atopun, maybe kitumia, anak uh monita opagita na blaja masalam.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: So what's the purpose of it?
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: Then from there, baru kita boule bagi, kita punya opinion and baru kita ting o kaba the bigger view, then baru kite bagi.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, for our situation, this is why.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: Going with the ajaran of Allah and the ajaran nabi so I think that's it can be our conclusion.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_01: Another conclusion is ting wok kit.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, nice.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: Then of course, kidabi pranku wasn't punon to a nap.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, then yella, arab yang kites.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so henga jumble, some bullet.