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Did CIG listen to our jet pack prayers? | A Star Citizen call-in show · Open Comms Radio | A Star Citizen call-in show

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  A little criticism about the open comms the the new intro.
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  Not a fan. Yeah.
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  Welcome, welcome. Welcome to Open Comms Radio back
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  again 2026 here to to give you everything you're looking for in
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  Wednesday nights at at 9:00 PM for one hour.
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  I'm Jar Jar Jabroni. I'm your Co host of this darn
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  thing best darn Star Citizen podcast in the verse.
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  And I'm here tonight joined by my good friend, Co host Duke
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  later the second. Thanks.
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  For having me. Thanks for having you.
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  Thanks. For having me, I was just saying
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  I'm glad to be here. I don't know.
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  I'm glad to be here. It was, it was dramatic.
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  So I just, I didn't know what to do.
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  I'm eating lasagna. That fits.
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  That fits kind of the vibe I'm going for this year.
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  I'm feeling like this year is going to be weird.
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  This is our first show of the year.
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  Yeah, season 2 episode 1. Yeah, it is, man.
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  We took kind of a long break there.
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  I guess we needed some rest after all the hard work from
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  2025. You know, you're being a little
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  facetious right now, but in reality, man, I'm exhausted.
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  My legs hurt. Your legs hurt.
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  Yeah, I don't know why my shoulders, well, my, I lowered
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  my chair on my desk, but now my, my arms are too low to properly
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  reach my, my sticks. So there is there is a little
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  bit of sacrifice here. Maybe not.
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  I'm not in the healthiest position to be engaging in these
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  swift dogfights that I that I'm usually engaging in.
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  How about you? My dog fights, I tend to just
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  kind of sit in one spot and and spin around, just like when I'm
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  working at home, you know, just got the swivel chair, sit in the
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  middle of the room, grab some snacks, do some typing, just
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  going back and forth. Yeah.
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  Well, this year is a is a big year, much anticipation for the
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  year in terms of Star Citizen, but also a lot of a lot of hope.
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  A lot of hope that we're going to get some, some cool goodies
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  and a lot of hope that our voices have been heard.
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  Speaking of which, we're getting a lot of messages from from the
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  stream already. You should check those out.
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  Season 2 silent film. Oh no.
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  Yeah, I forgot. I forgot to activate it on the
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  stream. It's so Duke and I were just
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  talking about how long it's been since we did done one of these.
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  I think that makes sense now. Thank you.
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  You guys all realize now that I forgot how to do this, so
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  hopefully everybody can hear me now. 20/26/2020. 6. 2026 Much
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  anticipation. Segway.
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  Segway, is CIG listening to us this year?
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  Do you think they listened? They listened to your, your
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  yearnings and your prayers last year.
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  I think they've been listening to us from the very beginning,
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  from episode 1. Oh, you mean specifically us?
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  Like this show? Specifically this show, yeah, I,
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  I think we have some devoted fans over in Manchester.
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  Who TuneIn? I can't prove that or or show
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  any reason why I feel that way, but I I I do have a strong
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  conviction. That's a confident conviction.
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  Yeah, it's it's strong. Yeah, maybe a little delusional.
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  Nah, it's it's John Crew. Well, I don't.
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  I don't know whoever is in charge of fire extinguishers and
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  jet packs, but it looks like we did get some of that stuff last
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  year. Our fire extinguisher jetpacks.
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  Did CIG answer our jetpack prayers?
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  The short answer is yes. Long answer is I still haven't
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  tried it. I don't know why it's like.
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  I forget. Yeah, you've been playing too.
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  I know I I've been busy just, you know, scumming in the the
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  big groups going after that. That a a group.
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  Yeah, the the other a a group. Not the other one, but the Star
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  Citizen one. You're attacking an A, a group
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  that plays in Star Citizen. Yeah.
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  They're trying to get better, dude.
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  They're just salvaging. They're just mining.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, So the chats making
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  fun of us a lot right now because we forgot to turn on the
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  mics for the Twitch, Skeeter says.
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  I'll believe they are listening when we get modular toilets.
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  That's a reference to the Citizen Khan.
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  I honestly think we're going to get that.
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  Seriously. A1 SCU toilet.
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  I, I think we will actually get some sort of toilet thing like
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  that because we, we have toilets, right?
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  CIG has talked about there will be a future where you will need
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  to go potty. We're going to have these base
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  building. And I think, I think the idea of
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  being able to place your toilet where you want it for proper
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  Feng shui, I think we're going to have it, I think.
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  I think modular toilets are coming, yeah.
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  But it's got to have plumbing, it's got, it's got to drain
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  somewhere. You don't want to place the
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  toilet on the 2nd floor and just have it fall onto your first
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  floor. You know what I mean?
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  OK, so it starts to do some pipe system 2 point O pipes are
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  returning it's. Kind of what I've been expecting
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  this whole time. Yeah, CIG used to talk about
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  actual pipes for like our power systems, but it's actually just
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  going to be for Doo Doo. Well, Cosmo Kobo was waiting to
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  get up here and chat. I'm going to keep him waiting a
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  little bit, but he did say what a load of crap.
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  Yes. And I don't understand, he said.
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  Port a potty. I don't know what that means.
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  We'll let him explain it later. Yeah, but he was second into the
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  room tonight. Our first guest is a little bit
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  blue. Yeah.
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  And I know this guy is hanging out on Spectrum all the time.
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  Any of you Spectrum trolls out there constantly smashing away
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  at your keyboards? Well, this is this is your guy.
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  This is Lord Anubis. Just alienating the whole
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  segment of our listeners there. Full transparency, I barely ever
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  go on spectrum and I was second in line.
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  Oh well. Is is going on spectrum like a
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  like a naughty secret now is that it's established.
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  You're allowed to. Go there.
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  Well, I went there once and and then I got, I got mugged and I
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  was like that. That's not fun and left.
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  This is very boring. Thank you for.
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  We we we all know that you pop on Spectrum in your alt account
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  to ask about moist eyeballs and romance options.
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  Well, I mean, OK, so as you were saying Duke, you know the the
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  the pipes will be full of poo. Don't forget pee.
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  But that's also another one. Yeah.
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  You can't have one without the other.
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  In fact, you can't poo without pee.
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  I mean, I can, you can't. You can't just do 1.
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  Try holding it while you're pooping.
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  That could be you could get hurt doing that though.
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  Make sure you have health insurance.
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  Make sure your coverage is updated.
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  You paid your bills. What if they had health
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  insurance in the game? And then like, if you don't, if
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  you don't have like a good policy, you're every time you
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  respawn, things are just a little off.
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  I thought that was the point of of they went over that for the
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  medical stuff, 'cause they have like robot arms and shit.
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  Right, I don't. Care what they're doing, you 3D
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  print people. What the hell do you need robot
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  arms for? Because your your health
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  insurance, Yeah, yeah, you don't like then they didn't save your
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  copy or something. So you only have like a partial.
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  Copy The things that happen to you when you die are like echoed
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  through to your your save file, whatever the hell it's called.
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  So eventually, you know if your if your arm's been blown off
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  like 10 times, they could print you out another arm, but it
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  would just kind of hang there limp because your your, your
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  echo whatever is like not that that arm's gone it's gone.
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  But if you go. Eventually, eventually that that
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  would mean you know, you're more machine than man or you're
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  you're like you. Is that death of?
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  Is that death of a spaceman or? That's the birth of Darth Vader,
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  which wouldn't be a bad direction to go.
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  Right now you can only play as people.
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  Everyone looks the same, everyone's got the same 6 pack,
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  everyone's got the same flat ass in this game.
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  You guys notice it's? Like that movie?
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  It's like that movie Gattaca, except for the flat ass, right?
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  Everyone should have. Everyone should have more ass.
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  You know we should all be kicked up. 100% I mean if CIG was
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  listening to his last year and made some of our wishes come
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  true. I think for 2026 if if I could
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  ask one thing of them, it would be.
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  Plump in the junk plump I I think, I think it's about time
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  they they implement, you know, like a a live way to do that
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  with the camera. You can have ass over IP and you
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  know, so you can, you know, shake it, twerk it and it'd be
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  uniquely. Yours ass over IP all right.
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  Wow, it's good to have you back in Nubith.
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  Right quick. Go copyright that quick.
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  Yeah. Thanks guys.
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  I haven't seen you in, have you? Have you been doing the the new
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  content? Not really, I've been working a
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  lot. New job also went to went out of
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  state for a little bit just for a birthday party.
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  So kind of just really busy and, you know, also trying to avoid
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  you. Well, that's fair enough.
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  That's fair enough. You, you can.
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  I'm easy to avoid. Honestly.
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  No. OK, never mind.
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  We can just bring on. We can just bring on the next
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  guest. Who is who is ahead of you
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  there? Lord Anubis.
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  That would be cosmic hobo, but that would.
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  So let's go ahead and choose Wicket.
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  Oh, all right. I guess we'll bring on up
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  wicket. Wicket, man of the hour.
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  Wicket's actually gone through a a tragedy recently.
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  Several. Yeah, several tragedies.
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  I'm going to let him speak about the Ashes of his own creation
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  for a little bit. Oh yeah.
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  Yeah. Wicket.
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  How's how's, how's life? Is Dune dried up too?
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  Citizens, long time listener, occasional caller.
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  Here we are back again. Whoever thought this season 2 of
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  this craziness was a good idea, shame on you.
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  Here we are. First thing I want to say is
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  yes, Ashes of Creation is unfortunately Ashes No More
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  Creation. What a sad state of affairs,
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  that game. I mean, it was a beautiful game.
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  Everybody was. I mean, there was a lot of body
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  going on, a lot of cheating, duping, you know, the the
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  standard fare for these types of games that they were working on
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  correcting, blah, blah, blah. But then out of the blue a
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  couple of days ago, the whole company just freaking imploded
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  and we kind of got it piece meal over a couple hours that the
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  game was dead in the the studio was basically firing everybody
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  and the the owner driving force behind the game, the creator of
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  it all, Steven Sharif left. It's like then, of course,
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  within a few minutes, what did this guy do?
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  Did he get his bag and run? Because, you know, end of
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  January came around and I guess the payouts for Steam came
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  through or something and. It wasn't looking good.
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  I thought that game was doing really well.
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  Well, I mean, yeah, I mean it was OK.
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  It wasn't, I mean it, it wasn't like, you know, we had two or
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  300,000 people playing, you know, I think at height it had
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  30 something thousand people just fine.
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  It had its teething problems, but you know, for for a lot of
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  people were thinking, well, this is just a freaking scam from day
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  one. Well, it really couldn't have
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  been a scam from day one because there was a game there and we
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  could play it and there were there were there were there was
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  infrastructure there, there were systems in game that work more
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  or less. You know it it was all there.
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  The game was there. So it's it's.
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  Just. I feel like we can be talking
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  about another game now. Yeah, that that, that sounds
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  ominous. Well.
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  That's kind of why I want him to bring the.
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  Only reason I bring it up is because you know, SC is Star
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  Citizen is the same long time development, there's the roots
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  of a game there, blah blah blah. I'm going to bring I'm going to
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  point out some differences here in a minute between Star Citizen
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  and Ashes. But let me say, the writing was
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  on the wall from the beginning because this Steven Sharif guy
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  who started it all, I mean, I always thought he was like a
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  tech bro. That's how he made his money and
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  that's why he had all this money.
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  And he had said that he would fund the game even if he didn't
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  get backers or anything, he would fund it to the fulfillment
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  of the game. And turns out this guy is one of
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  these MLB multi level market or MLM multi level marketing dudes,
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  you know? Yeah, I know what that is.
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  Yeah. And that's where him and his
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  whole family made, I guess made all their money, you know, I
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  don't know, maybe they were Amway salesman, I don't know.
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  The Sharif family vacuum cleaners door to door.
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  Probably who knows the Sharif shark vacuum.
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  Who knows they they want to sell you a Kirby and would you like
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  to buy some? Petco knives.
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  Well, the the. The the don't.
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  They don't. Those knives are good, man.
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  Yeah, you can cut through. Listen.
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  I don't know if you guys remember Ginsu knives.
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  We have a set of Ginsu knives we've had for 25 years and
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  they're still cutting. Yeah, I don't know if you know
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  even know what that means. If.
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  You get the. Reference, but I haven't even
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  used a knife for that long. In any event, the whole tie into
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  Star Citizen would be that obviously this is an open
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  development, crowdfunded for the most part.
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  And you know, the difference being that in Star Citizen, for
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  the most part, it's all in the open.
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  Everything that's done happens in your face, whether you like
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  it or not. And you're allowed to, you can
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  criticize it, you know it, it's a back and forth, you know it.
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  Be honest with you. This whole idea and the whole
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  thing that happened with Ashes really made me appreciate Star
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  Citizen that much more. And am I being stupid or blind
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  or dumb? Maybe, but after, after having
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  thought about it for a while, having seen what happened behind
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  closed doors in this game, that's now there's, there's
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  information constantly coming to light.
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  There's a guy that was on Twitch today.
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  He must have had a 6-7 hour in depth walkthrough of everything
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  that happened with Ashes and he had receipts.
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  It's like, holy crap. You know, in reference to what
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  you're saying, if you know serious fun, he's another
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  streamer does a a radio show. You look, you can look him up,
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  but he did a a. Yes, listen to a different show
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  other than ours, please. Yeah.
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  Well, you could he's, he's good. He, well, he said in line to
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  what you're saying, He said we have more line of sight to the
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  funding of this game than we do to the banks that own our
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  mortgages, the financial institutions that own our car
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  notes or to any other major purchases in our lives.
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  I watched that video, I know. Exactly what you're so bro.
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  And, and it's true. I mean, we do have it's, and,
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  and you know, and again, see what happened in Ashes comparing
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  that to what's going on in Star Citizen.
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  Of course, you know, I'm very critical at times of, of, of
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  Star citizens. But at the end of the day, I
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  wanted to be a successful enterprise.
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  I wanted to flourish. I wanted to be, you know, my, my
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  forever game, but that doesn't not mean that I don't, I, I
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  can't be critical. I mean, if they can't stand a
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  little bit of criticism, I mean, I have to stand it.
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  Why can't they? But again, it's in the open.
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  It's not behind closed doors. And for the most part, we know
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  what's going on. I mean, I'm sure they have their
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  secrets, but at the end of the day, like, like that guy was
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  saying in this video, we do have an insight that we that we don't
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  enjoy in other aspects of our lives.
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  Well now so you've been wasting your time on this dead ass game
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  for a month. For two.
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  Months. Yeah, for two months.
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  I logged in with you today and you were playing some of the the
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  new mission, the 4.6 and lo and behold, you had no idea that CIG
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  had answered your fire extinguisher jetpack prayers.
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  I did not know that. Yeah, I did not know that
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  answered my prayers. So of course, Char Jar as as he
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  does, he's like, oh man, you got to come out and try it.
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  Let's take get some footage. So for like an hour or two, we
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  were messing around in, in, in, in space, him, him capturing
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  footage of me using the jet pack, the the fire extinguisher
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  jet pack. It was fun.
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  How fast can you go in? Those things, it's fast.
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  Too fast dude. It was hard to capture
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  sometimes. It was like stuttering the the
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  server couldn't keep up with how fast he was going, so to get a
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  good shot he tapped the trigger instead of holding it but it.
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  It it really works like you think it would.
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  And so this is use it. To slow down.
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  You can even use it to slow down.
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  It's like literally imagine being in space and holding the
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  fire extinguisher and hitting, hitting the trigger to fire off
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  some some CO2 and you know. So are we going to?
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  Actually board, are we going to use it to board interests in the
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  future? That's exactly what I'm
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  thinking, yeah. Like.
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  You'd be a low, you'd be a low paying.
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  It'd be hard for them to find you with their radars, you know.
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  Hopefully. So.
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  You know, and they they got that going and then you just see like
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  all the powder from the from the things just leaving a street and
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  you just see like a whole bunch of people just.
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  A little criticism about the open comms the the new intro.
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  Not a fan. Yeah, the old intro much better.
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  Oh, really? Oh, OK.
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  Wow. I don't know.
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  I'm just fucking around. Oh, man.
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  All right. You know, you're you played it.
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  That was you. The the intro of it, there was
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  no audio. Well, I fucked I I messed up the
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  first time I that's on meow I. Mean that's part of the.
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  Charm of the show. That's part of the charm of the
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  show. Sure why not.
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  I went to work at A at a BBQ restaurant and the tables were
• 20:46
  always wobbling and he said it's part of the charm and people
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  hated that. Also, can the tables just not
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  wobble? I want to bring up something
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  else before before we bring up Hobo.
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  This is turning into a wicked show.
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  Well, I'm sorry. Yeah, and hold on 20 months, if
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  anybody wants to join the call, you could just pop into the
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  waiting room. Your call in show so anyone can
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  join, just pop into the waiting room here and we will bring you
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  on up. Yeah, and we'll do it.
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  Before a cosmic. Yeah.
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  So before tonight's show, I was like, you know, going through
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  YouTube and guess who pops into my feed?
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  Avenger 1 and I'm like, OK, what's he got to say again?
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  I heard you lost a. Goodbye video He's stopping he's
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  stopping covering Star Citizen for a while.
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  He. Found Jesus like 2 months.
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  Yeah, he found. Jesus.
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  He found Jesus or something. Yeah, he found.
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  I wish you would call everybody else where where he is so they
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  could stop looking for him. OK, well, kind of the problem
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  going on right now. I'm I'm not trying to make fun
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  of the guy. I'm not trying to make fun of
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  the guy. I never had a problem with his
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  content. I mean, everybody's, in my mind,
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  everybody is allowed to have their take and, and say their
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  piece. You know, you don't have to
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  agree with them. You don't even have to listen to
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  them. But you know, somebody shouldn't
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  just be told to shut up because you don't like what they have to
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  say or you don't just you don't agree with them.
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  You know, if that was the case, hell, I'd never be on the show,
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  right? Wicked, 2028.
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  In any event, all I was the only reason I bring that up is that I
• 22:26
  thought it takes a lot of courage to say, hey, I found
• 22:29
  some religion and this just isn't for me right now.
• 22:31
  I'm going to. Take Is that really what he
• 22:32
  said? Yeah, basically, yeah.
• 22:34
  Oh. I think it's moving.
• 22:35
  Around 12 or 13 minute video you can.
• 22:37
  Watch, sort of. I saw that one coming a couple
• 22:39
  of years ago. But I mean.
• 22:41
  Really good. Good, I mean to me, good for
• 22:43
  him, whatever. I mean, look, that's, that's not
• 22:46
  my, that's not my bag, but but I think it's, it takes some guts
• 22:52
  to come out and say something like that and just, you know, as
• 22:54
  far as being a public person on the Internet that people know,
• 22:59
  you know. And I could definitely see him
• 23:01
  getting burnt out. For sure.
• 23:04
  But, and I think it's a problem with the content he was aiming
• 23:08
  for and what he likes to do because he was, you know, he's
• 23:12
  super sweat, right? Like very, very competitive
• 23:15
  loves to learn everything possible about, you know, the
• 23:18
  flight model and the combat and everything.
• 23:19
  But the problem with that is it it's still not, it's not final,
• 23:24
  you know, like it would just change all them all the time and
• 23:28
  then they have to relearn it and.
• 23:30
  It's rough. His emphasis wasn't.
• 23:31
  It was more on the direction that the game was heading and he
• 23:35
  he just didn't agree with it and that he basically needed a take
• 23:39
  a break from it basically is what he boils down to.
• 23:42
  I'll let you watch it. I mean, I'm just paraphrasing
• 23:44
  and probably not doing a great job of it.
• 23:46
  But in any event, in any event, let's why don't we bring old
• 23:49
  cosmic Hobo up? Because I mean, good God.
• 23:53
  If there's anybody who wants to call in like in the next 10
• 23:56
  seconds, that would be amazing. And open Comms Radio, your Star
• 23:59
  Citizen call in show. If anybody would like to call in
• 24:01
  to the call in show right now, make a call.
• 24:03
  Just drop on in and we will bring you.
• 24:05
  On I'm trying. I'm trying.
• 24:08
  If you have anything to say, if you have nothing to say, anybody
• 24:12
  I. Don't know if to please.
• 24:16
  All right, Cosmic Hobo, you are welcome to join the couch.
• 24:21
  Cosmic Hobo is CIG answering our jetpack prayers.
• 24:28
  More so than you're answering, my Colin.
• 24:34
  I read your, I read your chat things.
• 24:36
  You were in chat and you were typing.
• 24:38
  You'd have porta potty. I still don't get it.
• 24:42
  OK, that one should be self-explanatory.
• 24:44
  It's like a porta potty. You put it on the grid like it's
• 24:47
  self-contained. Heck yeah.
• 24:50
  Toilet like it's going to be big and it'll take up space and
• 24:53
  that's in everything but. I guess that's.
• 24:57
  The topic I'm starting with tonight is porta potties.
• 24:59
  So how does? The porta potties.
• 25:00
  Get into it and tip it over. Yeah.
• 25:05
  Could we have a whole career with contracts to go into the
• 25:08
  porta potties? Oh yes, you want to have this
• 25:11
  discussion? Cosmic knows all about it.
• 25:14
  The options are unlimited. Just think of all the shit.
• 25:21
  I I will point out in Ashes of Creation, there's actually a
• 25:24
  quest in the game where you have to go clean a latrine.
• 25:28
  You should start using past tense.
• 25:31
  Thank you so much. Thank.
• 25:33
  OK. All right, Cosmic Cobo, this is
• 25:36
  this is your moment. You get 5 minutes all to
• 25:39
  yourself. Is CIG answering our jetpack
• 25:42
  prayers? Yeah, they are like, we can do
• 25:46
  it now. Like it.
• 25:47
  I OK, I, I also haven't actually gone out and done that.
• 25:54
  Every time we're doing stuff, we're like going to point a
• 25:57
  point B and it's like, hey, we, we're going to do X&Y&Z and it's
• 26:02
  like, OK, no, can we just look play with fire X?
• 26:05
  And then we're just like, no. So I mean it's and, and people
• 26:09
  complain to me to steer their fire, steal their fire.
• 26:11
  Cadoyo doesn't like when we steal the fire extinguishers off
• 26:14
  the address. Well, you're just borrowing it.
• 26:17
  You put it back. Yeah, totally.
• 26:22
  We'll, we'll, we'll totally put it back.
• 26:25
  Just like. In just like in jump space.
• 26:30
  OK, point taken. Point taken.
• 26:33
  Jump Space is another very cool space game where you're running
• 26:36
  around doing the yeah, it's like, it's like, what's the
• 26:39
  pirate 1 Sea of Thieves? It's like Sea of Thieves in
• 26:41
  space. Right.
• 26:43
  And, and they've got fire extinguishers and they had fire
• 26:46
  extinguisher jet packs before Star Citizen.
• 26:49
  Yeah, they did. And they are a small indie
• 26:51
  company. Yeah, but they didn't have much
• 26:54
  else. Yeah, it's fair.
• 26:56
  It's fair. So we have 4 point sixes here.
• 26:59
  We have a new ship on the horizon.
• 27:02
  It is a mole mole, a mini mole, A salvage mole, Yeah.
• 27:10
  That's more or less the conclusion, yeah.
• 27:12
  Is the salvage mole going to have two arms or three arms just
• 27:16
  like the regular mole? Salvagers.
• 27:21
  How's this going to work? Is there going to be new salvage
• 27:23
  gameplay with it? No, that that, that part I'm
• 27:27
  pretty clearly can say probably. No, yeah, I got it.
• 27:31
  But it does, at least from the silhouette and the teasers
• 27:35
  they've gotten, it looks like it's got 3 salvaging things
• 27:40
  again and the front is the claw ripped off of and probably
• 27:45
  shrunk down from the reclaimer. Why do we have the claw?
• 27:52
  Is it the it's not the claw lining mole?
• 27:54
  Is it the mining mole? With.
• 27:56
  Repurposed heads is that wall. It is.
• 28:01
  It will likely have changes, but the first take will probably be
• 28:06
  yeah, that's probably just a mole for salvaging it it it has
• 28:09
  geometry changes. But right, well, you know
• 28:11
  they're going to do the same thing with the with the, with
• 28:16
  the output. I wonder if they'll instead of
• 28:18
  the saddlebags, maybe they'll have the external cargo grids.
• 28:22
  So that'll just push boxes out onto there.
• 28:26
  I'd like to see that. I'd like that.
• 28:28
  Feature on the Fortune. Be interesting.
• 28:37
  Cool. Oh well, OK guys, no, don't
• 28:40
  don't all jump on at once. So.
• 28:43
  We don't know much about it honestly.
• 28:45
  Like we we've only had the teasers and it's.
• 28:47
  All speculation. No.
• 28:50
  Well, I mean, listen, I'm I think lowest common denominator,
• 28:53
  least amount of effort. You know, yeah.
• 28:57
  That's basically a variation of what we already have, so it's
• 29:00
  like so. If it's that then it's going to
• 29:01
  be what, a pilot and two two turrets or three turrets?
• 29:05
  So it's a four man ship. Plus now you have 5th man to
• 29:08
  move cargo around in the back when it spits out the little
• 29:12
  containers. And you have the disintegration
• 29:15
  array. I I still think salvaging is
• 29:17
  really boring. Yeah, it is.
• 29:21
  There's no risk. I would like it if there was
• 29:25
  something to work towards with it.
• 29:27
  Like I can, I can, I can deal with the quote UN quote boring
• 29:32
  parts of it if we were working towards something with it.
• 29:36
  But right now, yeah, it's boring.
• 29:37
  I don't care. I don't have anything to do with
• 29:38
  it. EBC is pointless.
• 29:40
  Think about this. Does everything always have to
• 29:42
  have risk? No.
• 29:46
  Can't you have some game loops that are pretty much benign and,
• 29:50
  and you know, very low risk? I mean, there's always a risk
• 29:55
  when you're in your ship and you're in space and you're, you
• 29:57
  know, you never know. But the point I think where the
• 30:01
  risk for mining, the risk for salvaging, the risk for any kind
• 30:05
  of resource gathering will come in is when they start having
• 30:11
  resources confined to certain space and certain space is more
• 30:15
  hostile than other space. And that's like the more.
• 30:19
  Risk versus reward, yeah, that's where I'm open.
• 30:22
  I'll counter with. I definitely don't want that.
• 30:25
  Why not? Well, So what you're talking
• 30:27
  about is you have the gameplay of salvaging, right?
• 30:30
  And your idea there was to make salvaging more exciting, have
• 30:35
  certain areas which are more contested because they have the
• 30:38
  higher value goods in it. But like I what if I just want
• 30:43
  to be a care bear? I want to salvage, but I want to
• 30:47
  have the full salvage experience of a rich and interesting
• 30:51
  feature. I don't want to have to go get
• 30:53
  shot at just to have salvage be interesting.
• 30:56
  Right? Like right now, salvaging is
• 30:58
  just point and click and then you just sit there, watch the
• 31:01
  bar go up. There's no risk of the material
• 31:04
  disappearing. There's no risk of there's like
• 31:06
  no more valuable things that will disappear etcetera.
• 31:09
  Well, you you can do that. Click, you can do that now.
• 31:13
  So what's changing I'm thinking? For you, for you to care there,
• 31:16
  that's change. That's not good.
• 31:18
  No, I'm saying that's not good. So that needs to change because
• 31:21
  the gameplay needs to improve. There needs to be something more
• 31:25
  there to make it interesting and to make it worth your time.
• 31:29
  And the answer can't be let's just add people shooting at you
• 31:34
  because that's dumb. They haven't actually improved
• 31:36
  that feature at all, all they've done.
• 31:37
  I'm not saying that maybe it's. It's people shooting at you.
• 31:40
  You know, it could be where, let's say in order to to go into
• 31:47
  into certain parts of space, like in the molecular clouds
• 31:50
  where certain types of minerals and ores, maybe you only have a
• 31:54
  finite time before it starts damaging your ship.
• 31:57
  There's nobody shooting at you. There's nobody, nobody harassing
• 32:01
  you. It's just you against the
• 32:03
  environment. It's like an almost like APVE
• 32:05
  activity player versus environment.
• 32:08
  And you're going in and, and you know, now the onus is on how
• 32:12
  skilled are you in finding these rare and, and profitable
• 32:17
  commodities that first of all you have to locate them, then
• 32:20
  you have to extract them efficiently, Then you have to
• 32:22
  get out of there without being damaged to the point where you
• 32:25
  can't go anywhere. Now you have a risk.
• 32:28
  Reward. Thing that's one way of doing
• 32:31
  it, but I still think that there should also be areas of space
• 32:35
  that the chances of you getting like for instance, pyro is
• 32:39
  supposed to be a lawless system, right?
• 32:41
  This is a perfect place where some of the the highest
• 32:45
  commodity, the highest valued commodity should be in areas
• 32:50
  where, you know, that's a reason for us to go there.
• 32:53
  There's a reason to go there. And if you don't want to take
• 32:56
  the risk, you just don't go there.
• 32:58
  You know that's. This idea.
• 33:00
  This idea that everybody, everything has to go is go to
• 33:03
  the lowest common denominator, the care bear, the space dad and
• 33:07
  all that. No, I think is is a is is.
• 33:09
  But I think the. Feature itself needs to be
• 33:13
  interesting without adding all of that needs to be right now.
• 33:17
  Mining is interesting. You've got lots of different
• 33:20
  heads. You've got, you know, the
• 33:22
  different types of rocks, different cereals.
• 33:24
  It's not that interesting. It's it's not perfect.
• 33:27
  But there is a lot of complexity there and you can enjoy it.
• 33:30
  Salvaging is just point and click yeah.
• 33:34
  I agree there, you know, like like I said, some of the the
• 33:38
  higher end military ships could be made out of out of out of
• 33:42
  more rare alloys. And when you salvage like a high
• 33:44
  end military ship that would where would you find a high end
• 33:47
  military ship? Well, it would be like you're
• 33:49
  not talking about. Exploded in a battle.
• 33:51
  Hold on, you're not improving the future wicket.
• 33:53
  All you're doing is putting it in certain areas where you can
• 33:56
  find certain, you know, high valuable things.
• 33:58
  And I'm not done yet. I'm.
• 34:00
  Not done yet? You can do that.
• 34:01
  You know you are. Creating AP versus P situation,
• 34:04
  which I'm not saying is bad, but I'm saying we can't look at that
• 34:07
  as as a solution to make the feature interesting.
• 34:10
  Well, The thing is you can do the same.
• 34:12
  Thing that you did with mining, with salvaging where you know,
• 34:14
  those higher end materials now required different heads or
• 34:18
  different strategies, or they're they're tougher to, you know,
• 34:21
  you can do the make it a little mini game.
• 34:23
  Like you make the mini game of mining.
• 34:25
  Now you make the mini game of of salvaging.
• 34:28
  That's just one solution. Maybe that's not the only
• 34:30
  solution. Maybe maybe salvaging is just a
• 34:33
  boring ass endeavour period. You know, maybe that's just the
• 34:38
  way it is and and I'd be fine with that.
• 34:42
  I. Can't leave it at.
• 34:44
  That there's too many. There's just there's too many
• 34:46
  ships designed for it for them to just let it drop as here it
• 34:51
  is. Yeah, cuz then cuz then why
• 34:53
  would? You need any the.
• 34:54
  Only thing would be like a bigger ship just collects more
• 34:56
  salvage, bigger ship collects salvage.
• 34:58
  Faster collects. Maybe, maybe, maybe a better
• 35:03
  ship compresses it better so you have you can compress more goods
• 35:07
  into the one squeak. I don't know, There's all kinds,
• 35:09
  but I think they've already said a few.
• 35:11
  Times with with all the different game play loops in the
• 35:15
  game that they don't want it to be a system where it's always a
• 35:18
  race for the biggest ship, right?
• 35:21
  Even with with Holland, they talk about they don't want you
• 35:24
  to just race for the whole sea or the whole league.
• 35:26
  Whatever the case is, there should be cases where one ship
• 35:30
  is is just the better option. So we we could see
• 35:36
  specialization in salvaging, right?
• 35:39
  But maybe that would come in the form once we get into crafted
• 35:45
  crowds of components and stuff, right?
• 35:46
  What if, say, the Vulture, because of the name kind of
• 35:51
  fits? What if the Vulture is really
• 35:53
  good at getting components off ships?
• 35:57
  You know, that would make it. I'm going to, I'm going to pause
• 36:00
  you. There for a minute, Duke, I'm
• 36:01
  going to pause there for a minute because we do have to
• 36:03
  bring on another guest. We we can continue this if if
• 36:06
  this guy, this is a fresh Nope, fresh guy first time on the
• 36:11
  show. No, no, no, no.
• 36:13
  No new guy, no new blood. New blood.
• 36:15
  Skeeter, welcome to the show. Skeeter, welcome to Open Comms
• 36:19
  Radio. You start listening Colin show
• 36:21
  this week. Our question is, has CIG
• 36:24
  answered our jetpack prayers? Wow, thanks for having.
• 36:29
  Me, long time listener and first time caller.
• 36:31
  Oh, that's kind of what Wicked says.
• 36:33
  Yeah, but it's true. Like it's accurate.
• 36:36
  And I appreciate Wickett's comments.
• 36:38
  They definitely listen to us. And that's exactly why we have
• 36:42
  jetpack fire extinguishers. I mean, we didn't have jetpack
• 36:45
  fire extinguishers. We complained about it and now
• 36:48
  we do so. Seems like we know.
• 36:52
  Yeah, exactly. Granted, we weren't the only
• 36:54
  ones complaining about it, but you know that's we're the only
• 36:57
  ones that mattered that were. Complaining about it.
• 37:00
  I mean, we're like. DFS with the doubts, right?
• 37:02
  Yeah, yeah. The.
• 37:05
  Reason I dialed in I I just wanted to kind of comment on
• 37:09
  what hobo said about the porta potties and I was a little
• 37:13
  concerned you didn't know what a porta potty was jar jar but
• 37:15
  that's OK my it helps if you understand my background I'm
• 37:20
  mildly obsessed with campers, travel trailers and RV's I.
• 37:27
  Know you're going to say sewage. Or something.
• 37:32
  Not not sewage, but. For a while I was planning on
• 37:36
  building my own little camper, and I know way more than the
• 37:41
  average American or human about toilets.
• 37:45
  And this is not. New.
• 37:47
  Technology like you could easily, you know, the I don't
• 37:50
  know if you've ever heard of a cassette toilet, but they're
• 37:53
  very popular in Europe and campers in Europe basically has
• 37:56
  a little tank, you know, like 3 to 5 gallons that you can pull
• 38:00
  out by hand and take it to a toilet and just dump it whenever
• 38:04
  it gets full. And like that's all we need in
• 38:07
  Star Sis. And think of all the ships.
• 38:10
  They don't have toilets. Like what are you going to do if
• 38:12
  you're in the middle of space? Like they have bunk beds like
• 38:15
  you're expected to sleep on them but you don't have anywhere to
• 38:19
  go. Like unless you just.
• 38:21
  You've got some way. To, you know, seal things off in
• 38:24
  your under suit and just go out and into space.
• 38:26
  I don't know how that'll work, but feel like this isn't new
• 38:29
  technology and it's something that could easily be done.
• 38:32
  Do you feel? Like that's kind.
• 38:35
  Of the answer that the Shiv had with the bucket with the bucket,
• 38:40
  and I love the bucket, I know. Everybody makes fun of it.
• 38:42
  I love the Shiv and I love everything about it, and the
• 38:45
  bucket is one of my favorite things.
• 38:47
  I think it could be better because there's no lid, but I
• 38:51
  was just thinking that the other day.
• 38:53
  I was it came to mind. I'm like, what can we do to fix
• 38:55
  the Shiv's toilet? Or sorry, bucket.
• 38:59
  It's a lid. That's it.
• 39:02
  But there's there's other. Options too, so there's.
• 39:04
  Other types of toilets, like there's there's toilets that bag
• 39:08
  it so literally like you push a button instead of flushing it
• 39:11
  like closes a bag, like everything goes into a bag and
• 39:14
  then eventually you get full of bags and you just throw the
• 39:16
  whole thing out. Like there's, there's lots of
• 39:19
  solutions here, but the bucket is up in the right direction.
• 39:25
  So I think the bucket is I think.
• 39:27
  It needs to be interactive. You need to be able to pick up
• 39:30
  the bucket, empty it and then put the bucket back and and as
• 39:34
  such on most of these toilets you can't even sit down on them.
• 39:38
  You can sit. On the bucket, you can sit on
• 39:42
  the bucket. Yeah, in the shave.
• 39:46
  You can sit on it. It's great.
• 39:48
  I love the shave. I love everything about it it.
• 39:52
  Needs a lid that's. Problematic.
• 39:55
  Mesquita, do you have a shave? I do have a shave.
• 39:59
  OK, 'cause there was someone we. Were playing the other day
• 40:01
  asking for a Shiv if I. Recall and everyone.
• 40:06
  Was like just buy one like in game.
• 40:09
  No, I have one. They were probably.
• 40:10
  Asked for the for the breaknecks and I've been giving breaknecks
• 40:14
  away to the org members. What are those?
• 40:17
  The guns? Yeah, they are the size for.
• 40:21
  Ballistic gallings. They're popular.
• 40:24
  Right now they're kind of meta. And do they come on the Shiv?
• 40:27
  Is that why they do? Come on the Shiv?
• 40:29
  Yeah. So that's the.
• 40:30
  Only way to get them as far as I know is on a Shiv and I think
• 40:32
  there's only a couple of people in the order that have shows me
• 40:35
  and I want to say Murphy might have one, I don't know.
• 40:38
  So you've been committing insurance fraud?
• 40:40
  To give everyone guns Well, no, because we're.
• 40:43
  Paying for it like it's the ethical duping, right?
• 40:48
  Crafting .5 Yeah, crafting that's.
• 40:50
  What I meant to? Say not.
• 40:51
  Duping, crafting 'cause you're, you are paying for the guns when
• 40:55
  you repair your ship and it's not insurance for you're not
• 40:59
  making a file insurance claim. All you're doing is repairing it
• 41:03
  and the guns reappear. But you have paid for those guns
• 41:07
  in the repair costs. So just take them off and you
• 41:10
  pay for. It and you get them and is that
• 41:14
  a thing? They're gonna.
• 41:16
  Probably. They're gonna.
• 41:17
  They're gonna. Yeah.
• 41:19
  That seems like that That can't be, especially with how easy it
• 41:23
  is. To make well, that's been.
• 41:24
  Working for over almost. Two years now, I think, but I
• 41:27
  kind of like that dynamic. Like I think it could work well
• 41:30
  in the game because there's there's shit like especially
• 41:34
  like the executive ships as people seek after the executive
• 41:38
  ships for the components 'cause there's some components that you
• 41:40
  can only get on specific either executive ships or Wicklow
• 41:43
  ships. Like what is it?
• 41:44
  The the 8, the Wicklow A2 I think or a yeah, a 2 has is the
• 41:49
  only one with the Fr 86 Shields, and that's the only way to get
• 41:52
  Fr 86 Shields. But surely they didn't mean for
• 41:55
  only the A2 to ever have Fr 80 sixes.
• 42:00
  So I feel like that dynamic actually kind of works.
• 42:04
  Yeah, it probably works right now.
• 42:07
  You know, just because we don't have like a, a real economy or
• 42:11
  whatever, but I feel like when you have like an actual market
• 42:14
  set up, having someone that can just like pay that insurance it,
• 42:18
  it will remove the scarcity of everything.
• 42:23
  You know if if you can just dupe.
• 42:24
  Everything that way you're not. Well, you're.
• 42:29
  Duping. Because you pull one off and you
• 42:32
  get it back and it's you're paying for it.
• 42:34
  You're paying, you're paying for it.
• 42:36
  Yeah. Well, to buy them in the in the
• 42:37
  in the stores. But now you can't, so they've
• 42:40
  introduced artificial scarcity. Well, they've tried.
• 42:47
  And then you keep pulling the guns off the ship, but only the
• 42:49
  people or people. Associated with the people
• 42:52
  who've gotten the special ships have access to them.
• 42:56
  Yeah, but I mean like I can just pay.
• 42:57
  You, you have the part I can just pay you for.
• 43:00
  I don't have to go do the quest for it, you know, and, and it's
• 43:04
  not the only one you have because you can just have
• 43:06
  another one, you know, if you couldn't, if you couldn't make
• 43:09
  more of them. And I wanted that gun from you.
• 43:12
  And there was literally only one of them.
• 43:14
  That's something different than. Oh yeah, I'll just copy 1 and
• 43:17
  here you go. Maybe, but what about?
• 43:22
  Fabricating. That's good.
• 43:23
  That's the premise of fabricating, basically.
• 43:25
  Yeah. You're not.
• 43:26
  Call it reverse. Engineering point. 0.5.
• 43:32
  Possibly. All right, episode.
• 43:36
  Episode or. Season 2 episode 1 is forever
• 43:39
  going to be known as the Porta Potty episode.
• 43:42
  The The Bucket episode. Yeah, you wanted fire
• 43:44
  extinguishers, but no. We want to talk about porta
• 43:46
  potties. Yeah, I was really trying to.
• 43:48
  I was. Really trying to focus on the
• 43:50
  fire extinguisher in the room actually.
• 43:53
  Tried the fire extinguishers? Yes, yes, well, the Wicca.
• 43:56
  And I tried it. Yesterday I tried it also there.
• 44:01
  It's great. You go fast as hell too.
• 44:04
  But we could like, reenact Wally.
• 44:05
  And Eva like, dance around for sure Wally.
• 44:10
  For sure. It's like such.
• 44:12
  A good move. The thing is, is that.
• 44:15
  You zoom away. So fast before long, like if
• 44:18
  you're, if you're in somebody's group, all they see is your
• 44:20
  marker and you're like way out there.
• 44:22
  Oh, really? You're yeah, it's.
• 44:24
  Fast. It's fast, so it's.
• 44:25
  Faster than. Eva.
• 44:27
  Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
• 44:29
  Oh wow, maybe 33? Times 4 times.
• 44:31
  Faster that would really come in Andy, I'm going to start just.
• 44:34
  Carrying one the new intro I don't know if you saw.
• 44:37
  Skeeter people love it. The new intro for season 2.
• 44:41
  The last shot is wicked. Flying on the fire extinguisher.
• 44:45
  I did, I missed it. That's OK.
• 44:48
  You'll you'll. Catch it, you'll catch it.
• 44:50
  I'm sure a lot of people, I'm sure a lot of people are going
• 44:51
  to rewatch the first 30 seconds of the episode once we post it
• 44:56
  naturally. I always do.
• 44:59
  My favorite? 30 seconds.
• 45:04
  It's certainly not the last 30 seconds.
• 45:05
  Nobody. Cares about that it's all it's
• 45:07
  just two people it's just wicked it's just wicked and me
• 45:11
  listening to it and and in the edit we do have one more caller
• 45:16
  we're going to pull up here quite toward the end of the show
• 45:19
  here it is Murphy Jack Murphy Jack is cig answered our jet
• 45:24
  pack prayers Oh yeah as soon as I.
• 45:28
  Saw the post on spectrum. Was it Was it waka that was
• 45:32
  saying it or somebody? I was like Yep confirmed they
• 45:36
  listened to open coms radio. Can I say something to Murphy
• 45:42
  Jack before? We let him.
• 45:44
  Yeah. Go on, go for it.
• 45:48
  Murphy, Jack. Jane.
• 45:49
  Murphy, Jack Senior Listen. Not yet.
• 45:54
  It's coming. Maybe it's under?
• 45:57
  Consideration. You know what I'm talking about.
• 45:59
  You know what? I'm talking about wait, what's
• 46:00
  under consideration? Or what's going on?
• 46:02
  What you talking about? The rest of us are lost, OK.
• 46:07
  Well, if. If it's not.
• 46:08
  Been made public yet? Then I'll just leave it at that.
• 46:10
  I'll leave you off the hook for now.
• 46:13
  But what I'm watching, I'm watching.
• 46:15
  I'm watching from the wings. What's been made public or not
• 46:18
  been made? Public.
• 46:19
  Yeah. And drop that little bomb and
• 46:21
  walk away. No.
• 46:22
  Well, I can. Murphy, Jack will tell.
• 46:25
  Us when When Murphy Jack's. Ready to tell us you don't want
• 46:27
  to run? He will, yeah.
• 46:30
  Who let us? Know feel like I feel like
• 46:32
  wicked is. Violating a lot of OP security
• 46:33
  right now, yeah. I'm.
• 46:38
  Don't. Tell Wicked.
• 46:38
  You're. I'm putting a.
• 46:40
  Little lever. In a in a little crook of
• 46:43
  something to to lever out what needs to be levered.
• 46:47
  Keep your lever out of my crooks.
• 46:48
  OK. Put my lever where I want, OK?
• 46:55
  Murphy, Jack, you've been playing four point.
• 46:57
  Six, you've seen the new ship coming up, pretty good start to
• 47:00
  January. How are you liking this, this
• 47:03
  mission here? This mold delivery?
• 47:08
  It's a. Little I he loves.
• 47:13
  It he's speechless. Speechless.
• 47:16
  Truly. I will say that I.
• 47:18
  Participated fully in about 3 missions, the rest of them I
• 47:24
  just was one of those moochers you with a free load.
• 47:28
  Yeah, I. I couldn't.
• 47:30
  I couldn't do it. I just couldn't get the drive to
• 47:33
  go out and do the. Same repetitive.
• 47:36
  Thing over and over and bar go up when wicket, I think it was
• 47:41
  wicket said that about or No, you did Duke.
• 47:43
  You said it about salvage. But bar go up.
• 47:45
  I think we've all said it, yeah. I was looking forward to this.
• 47:49
  This mission when it was when everybody was talking about in
• 47:52
  PTUI, never tried it in PTUII really thought that the retrieve
• 47:58
  the cryopods and stuff was going to like maybe take us into like
• 48:01
  a QV station and we had to. Reach, you know, get them out of
• 48:05
  the. QV station a little bit little
• 48:07
  puzzle solving or something like they do with tech smuggler
• 48:10
  because they have all that tech sort of in already right.
• 48:15
  So I thought that that this was going to be like a new series
• 48:19
  where they'll be like, oh, another, another puzzle solving
• 48:22
  like Hyperion and tech smuggler. But then when I saw the the two
• 48:27
  missions that I did that there was just what, 2 cryopods in the
• 48:31
  back of an avenger floating there with bounty showing up.
• 48:35
  This is like. OK.
• 48:38
  It was, I thought. I thought there.
• 48:40
  'D be a little more story behind it versus an almost.
• 48:46
  Literal copy and paste. Of stuff that was pre 4.
• 48:50
  Point OI mean. We were doing this.
• 48:52
  We were doing the same exact. Granted, they weren't cryopods,
• 48:57
  but we were. Going to a location.
• 48:59
  Getting cargo off of a ship and fighting NPCS off and that was
• 49:05
  it. And then it was.
• 49:07
  Just straight. Cargo hauling, make bar go up.
• 49:11
  Then the collection thing. The only true collection was the
• 49:18
  mushrooms and Levski, right? The other stuff was more just
• 49:21
  well, we, we bought all this shit from ruin the ice.
• 49:26
  So it was just literal commodity trading that we've had for
• 49:31
  years. Yeah.
• 49:32
  I mean, I sat down for an hour and.
• 49:33
  Everyone else finished the collections for me.
• 49:36
  That's what I mean. Like I, I.
• 49:38
  Don't really it it for me, it's over, it's done.
• 49:42
  Like, OK, I got got the stuff. It's like now what I I just, I
• 49:48
  was surprised that we went backwards on this event in terms
• 49:52
  of the tech and stuff. Whereas like when we got ASD
• 49:57
  facilities, Hyperion, like I was saying, tech smuggler, all that,
• 50:00
  like there was new steps introduced along the way like.
• 50:05
  Hey, you know. Fix this pipe, blast this leg or
• 50:09
  whatever they slag tight. You know what I'm saying?
• 50:12
  The thing on the pipe tight I think is from going.
• 50:15
  From the top down and still like mites are the ones that stick up
• 50:18
  from the floor. I could have, yeah.
• 50:19
  So when we had to mine them off the pipe.
• 50:22
  And figure out how to get the pipe on and I thought we.
• 50:25
  Were progressing. But this just fell backwards.
• 50:30
  It's it's. And that's all I just I wouldn't
• 50:36
  say. Disappointed I was just bored.
• 50:39
  Well doubt the the. The white knight would say,
• 50:42
  well, when they got server meshing in, all of those old
• 50:46
  missions didn't work, so they had to make their and they're in
• 50:50
  the process of making all those old missions work in the new
• 50:54
  server meshing environment. So maybe that could be why we're
• 50:57
  getting that. Well, that's a correct
• 51:00
  statement, but I mean, come on, I can.
• 51:04
  Buy ice from Ruin and bring it to a location.
• 51:08
  I think you were possible, but we had resource.
• 51:10
  Drive when that. Was actually impossible, yeah.
• 51:14
  Well, that we thought it would be right.
• 51:16
  We thought we were going to go and then come to find out
• 51:18
  there's we never, I don't know. I'd never ran into anybody.
• 51:24
  I must see no threat. Yeah, that's that's that's what
• 51:29
  I mean. Like that was I know there we
• 51:32
  did a. Talk on that.
• 51:33
  Before but. I I don't know this is it felt.
• 51:37
  Like it just felt. Like we went backwards for.
• 51:41
  Me, It really did. Yeah, Zeno threat was more like
• 51:45
  a world. Event I feel like they could
• 51:47
  have done something similar with this event, even though it
• 51:50
  basically was the world doing it, but everyone was doing their
• 51:53
  own missions because Zeno threat had like a common goal that
• 51:57
  everyone was contributing to. Like we had that sort of like in
• 52:02
  a pseudo way because of the big groups.
• 52:04
  But, you know, it's not like everyone was congregating in one
• 52:09
  location to, you know, kill a couple interests or, you know,
• 52:14
  get boxes off of maroon ships to.
• 52:19
  Me. This feels like a what?
• 52:20
  A lot of games do nowadays and Path of Exile comes to mind
• 52:26
  we're they have like still running.
• 52:30
  Oh hell yeah. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know.
• 52:34
  Who was even running anyway? Yeah.
• 52:37
  Damn they every every. Couple months they release a
• 52:46
  small patch, then then then it gets to a big patch and a small
• 52:49
  patch and a big patch and like a lot of things.
• 52:54
  Change in the big. Patch and then the small patch,
• 52:57
  it's just like not a lot like they do more tweaking than they
• 53:00
  do fixing and they bring out a small new like in game mechanic.
• 53:06
  That's the theme for that patch. And it's kind of like what what
• 53:10
  Star Citizen seems like they're doing now, because, you know, we
• 53:12
  had the the steel facilities that was kind of major, you
• 53:16
  know, there was all kinds of mechanics built around it.
• 53:18
  There's all kinds of stuff inside there and there's a big
• 53:21
  story that went with it. And, and then in between there
• 53:27
  we had some like collect missions the next time a patch
• 53:29
  came around. And then we had the the tech
• 53:33
  smuggler thing when Knicks came out and then tech smuggler came
• 53:36
  out, there was like a mate, you know, obviously a new system
• 53:39
  came out, all new solar system, the tech smuggler stuff.
• 53:43
  Now we're now we're back to the to the to the small patch where
• 53:47
  it's just like this like collector mission again, where
• 53:51
  it's it's just like the bar go up, but the bar is blue instead
• 53:55
  of green or blue instead of purple this time, you know,
• 53:58
  whatever. It's just like the low effort
• 54:01
  kind of copy pasta, change some colors around, you know, lowest
• 54:06
  effort possible just to say we did something so they can, you
• 54:10
  know, maybe focus on the next bigger thing that's coming out.
• 54:12
  Hopefully anyway, and and I'm fine with that.
• 54:15
  I mean, you know, they don't, they don't all have to be damn
• 54:17
  world beater bangers and stuff. The as long as they're giving us
• 54:21
  something. But you know, the the stuff that
• 54:24
  we got for this, this this update, it was super boring.
• 54:29
  I mean, you know, as long as you have a couple of friends with
• 54:31
  you, you knock it out in a couple hours basically.
• 54:34
  We know, I know. A lot of guys or at least
• 54:36
  interview who didn't do the tech smuggler mission like because
• 54:40
  they didn't really have a big enough org or like they're not
• 54:42
  really like combat. So all that work they put into
• 54:45
  it, not everybody saw it. This smaller fucking, you know,
• 54:50
  low effort stuff. Everybody.
• 54:52
  I don't like calling it a low effort, but the smaller stuff is
• 54:54
  like everyone has easier access to it.
• 54:58
  You know, not everybody does the hangers.
• 55:01
  We do exec hangers all the time, but if you're like a single
• 55:05
  player, you're like you got a couple friends and you and your
• 55:07
  two or three buddies come in here and and shoot all fire
• 55:11
  extinguishers in space. All that big stuff that they
• 55:15
  produce. Not I'm sure they have numbers
• 55:17
  and they know how many people are playing that stuff.
• 55:21
  And so I'm sure they are kind of like weighing like, oh shit,
• 55:23
  like what are we going to do? Are we going to do another big
• 55:25
  one or we going to do the small collection stuff?
• 55:28
  So I think that's probably like a good cycle that to have.
• 55:33
  Well, I think what a lot of these games.
• 55:34
  Get trapped into too Is the chasing engagement numbers right
• 55:41
  like they? Know like all right, we got a
• 55:42
  patch. We have to have a new event,
• 55:46
  we've got to drive engagement numbers up and like the current
• 55:50
  event did that I'm sure. But as others have said, I've
• 55:54
  guaranteed those numbers popped for a couple of days and they've
• 55:58
  probably already gone down considerably because people
• 56:01
  just. Joined in and they were like,
• 56:02
  all right, this. Thing is boring, let's get it
• 56:04
  done. And then they moved on.
• 56:05
  It's not it's not an event that anyone's going to keep doing
• 56:08
  after they've gotten the rewards.
• 56:10
  You know, whereas like Zeno threat, that sort of thing was
• 56:13
  just awesome. If it had, you know, you would
• 56:16
  have done that after you got the rewards just because it was a
• 56:19
  fun event. Exactly.
• 56:22
  That's good. That's why I.
• 56:23
  Say like be. Think about it and be a kind of
• 56:27
  brutally honest Did you grind us out for the story or for the
• 56:32
  reward? Did people?
• 56:35
  Come back for the reward. Or the reward.
• 56:38
  Yeah, initially I was really. Excited about the story and I
• 56:41
  thought we'd be like mining. Oh, I was too stuff in Levski.
• 56:44
  And you know how they had before with now that Hurston owns the
• 56:49
  the Jumpgate or whatever, I thought maybe there'd be some.
• 56:52
  Kind of consequence. To this like imagine there were
• 56:55
  like another bar that could not go up, but a bar that could go
• 56:59
  left or right, left or right. And it's like, you know, we're
• 57:03
  what, and we're trying to prevent the infection or
• 57:07
  whatever from growing. And depending on how much we
• 57:10
  send, you know, that bar is going to go One Direction or
• 57:14
  another. And if it goes all the way to
• 57:16
  the right and, and, and, and tips to the right, you know, the
• 57:19
  station is infested with mold for the next year or whatever.
• 57:24
  And it becomes like mostly unusable like that, that, that
• 57:27
  kind of stuff. And then people would keep
• 57:30
  playing it, I think to. This.
• 57:34
  Midway mission that. Was supposed to be like, you
• 57:37
  know that that's what when in PTUI, remember there was some we
• 57:41
  were talking about it. We got excited about it like, oh
• 57:43
  wow, this midway mission where you get a lot of Rep, we're
• 57:46
  going to like, you know, have to do something like Hyperion level
• 57:51
  or something, right? It was literally and then that
• 57:55
  it was just the same shit I used to do for Wallace Klim five
• 57:58
  years ago. I was like, OK.
• 58:02
  Yeah, I think it's just a. Lot of the stuff is just.
• 58:05
  Filler to tide us over. Hope, you know, at the end of
• 58:09
  the day, this is supposed to be a sandbox open world MMO where
• 58:15
  you know, we make our stories, we make our fun, we make our
• 58:19
  adventures, but we currently don't have all the systems we
• 58:23
  need to do that. We don't have an economy, we
• 58:25
  don't have crafting, we don't have bases.
• 58:28
  We don't have a lot of things that would facilitate a lot of
• 58:31
  that stuff. So and and I hope even when we
• 58:35
  do get all that, I still hope that the the the mission makers
• 58:38
  for star citizens still have some of that stuff going on.
• 58:42
  I still hope they have these like overriding mission arcs
• 58:47
  that lead one into another, you know, and you know, they don't
• 58:51
  all have to be bangers like ASD, like I said, or, or, or, or tech
• 58:55
  smuggler. You know, they could just be
• 58:57
  like, just like pearls, little pearls on the string to get us
• 59:01
  to the next to the next thing to the next thing.
• 59:03
  And then every every couple of months or once or twice a year,
• 59:07
  they have this major, you know, awesome event that everybody
• 59:11
  wants to take part in because A, it's awesome.
• 59:14
  B there's great rewards and you know, you get the you really
• 59:17
  want to be in an org or and and and work together with your
• 59:21
  comrades to get something done. I hope that's what it is like.
• 59:25
  And in the meantime, you know, you're doing your open world
• 59:28
  stuff, you're doing your sandbox stuff.
• 59:31
  So what I. Liked most about this event was.
• 59:33
  The rewards and the fact we could share points.
• 59:37
  I hate you. I hate the point.
• 59:39
  Sharing. Oh my God.
• 59:41
  Well, you go, go on, go on. And then that shit all over you.
• 59:43
  OK, let me let me find. Out before we go on to that, I I
• 59:47
  liked being able to share the points because I liked being
• 59:50
  able to get through it fairly quickly because I knew.
• 59:54
  From the get go. It wasn't going to actually be
• 59:58
  that much short to this event. I pretty much knew from the
• 1:00:01
  start it was going to be fairly filler.
• 1:00:05
  And while the story is clearly trying to set something up
• 1:00:10
  because they've been trying to set up the whole UE spoilers.
• 1:00:16
  The UAE coming back to Nyx to take back control over the
• 1:00:25
  system because they were just like, yeah, we don't want to
• 1:00:27
  deal with this. Do you think the UEE poisoned
• 1:00:30
  Levsky? Right, they're building up.
• 1:00:32
  An excuse. They're like, oh.
• 1:00:33
  Look, these people can't govern the advocacy.
• 1:00:36
  I'm sure they're. Listening.
• 1:00:37
  Play the play the water loudly. Like play the music.
• 1:00:41
  Turn the music up. Get the water running, yes.
• 1:00:47
  Yeah, that's dark. That's the only.
• 1:00:53
  Thing about this. Story for this event.
• 1:00:55
  Is that it's likely setting up some meddling.
• 1:01:01
  Well, we have. We have a call now from.
• 1:01:02
  Spokesperson for Imperative Addison, Spokesperson Schmidt
• 1:01:08
  Schmidt, are you with us? All right, I'm I'm running the
• 1:01:11
  band. Secretary Schmidt.
• 1:01:15
  No, I had a feeling Press secretary.
• 1:01:16
  Schmidt hasn't been here for a long time.
• 1:01:18
  OK, Well, OK. Dude, I.
• 1:01:24
  The mission sharing thing, if we're sharing the points and
• 1:01:29
  we're competing with another faction or something, or like
• 1:01:32
  you know, like there's like some event right, then, then we're
• 1:01:36
  sharing points. If I'm sharing points with you
• 1:01:38
  and I'm just getting like a goodie, no thank you, is it not?
• 1:01:43
  I'm not doing anything. I'm not earning any of these
• 1:01:45
  goodies. I'm going to get this
• 1:01:46
  fabricator. I've done 4 missions
• 1:01:49
  successfully, you know. And that's because Levski the.
• 1:01:54
  Hangers are are fucking around and they're much better today
• 1:01:58
  with fewer people on them. So they didn't have a patch or
• 1:02:03
  anything, but they're behaving good enough today.
• 1:02:05
  But you know, all that, all those goodies, I don't feel like
• 1:02:09
  I earned them. I just want the fabricator.
• 1:02:10
  So I'm going to sit in game and I'm going to accept all your
• 1:02:13
  missions while you guys do them. Like today I did Wicked did 2
• 1:02:17
  missions for me. I died.
• 1:02:21
  I think it's interesting that Jar Jar.
• 1:02:22
  'S main problem with the point sharing is that people like him
• 1:02:26
  exist. Yeah, Yeah, I think that's.
• 1:02:32
  People. Are going to freeload off the
• 1:02:34
  system. People like you.
• 1:02:37
  Yeah, as someone. Who ran the?
• 1:02:39
  Event for the award multiple days.
• 1:02:42
  Oh, thank you Hobo, by the way. True hero don't care that you're
• 1:02:46
  a miserable. Freeloader.
• 1:02:48
  I care. I care.
• 1:02:51
  Have you? Have you got?
• 1:02:52
  Data on that. Hobo 'cause I think, I think the
• 1:02:55
  I think the people care, the level of care I have.
• 1:02:58
  Or the level that other people care at.
• 1:03:00
  That other fuck that's weird language.
• 1:03:05
  Words are tough. Words are very tough.
• 1:03:08
  It's all. Right, they're all made-up
• 1:03:12
  anyway. I ran that event daily
• 1:03:17
  specifically for people like you.
• 1:03:19
  So then. Why are my bars not all full?
• 1:03:24
  Yeah, make our bars go up to make those bars go up for.
• 1:03:29
  All of you. And if you didn't show up, come
• 1:03:32
  back in March when we do it again for all the people that
• 1:03:35
  didn't get their parts back now. Yeah, I mean my.
• 1:03:39
  Larger point is that I'm not. Playing the game, I'm not really
• 1:03:41
  doing the event, I'm not doing the mission.
• 1:03:43
  I'm just kind of like sitting there.
• 1:03:45
  To get. Through it because like, even
• 1:03:47
  though I like I was really looking forward to do the
• 1:03:49
  mining, but I literally like got my prospector outfitted and we
• 1:03:53
  were done with it. You know, broccoli delivered all
• 1:03:58
  this ice and shit and I was at 100% and I was like, oh dude,
• 1:04:01
  like I haven't even, I haven't even delivered a run yet.
• 1:04:04
  So I didn't get to, I didn't get to play the game at all.
• 1:04:06
  That's that's really where that comes from.
• 1:04:09
  But that wasn't really That was a choice, though.
• 1:04:11
  Either, yeah. That was a choice.
• 1:04:13
  You didn't have to. Participate.
• 1:04:14
  You didn't have to move. But the point is the mission.
• 1:04:18
  The mission is not fun, It's not fun to do on its own without the
• 1:04:22
  reward, is what Jar Jar said. That's not what he's arguing
• 1:04:25
  though. You can just.
• 1:04:26
  But he's no I like mining because he's.
• 1:04:28
  Saying he just sat there. And got the reward because he
• 1:04:32
  was. So he could have.
• 1:04:33
  He could have not. Sat there and did the mission.
• 1:04:37
  But why do that when he could? Go do other things in the game
• 1:04:40
  that he's enjoying more and still get the mission.
• 1:04:44
  What's it like you're? Complaining about.
• 1:04:46
  Then what are you complaining about?
• 1:04:48
  Because we're trying to better. The game for everyone.
• 1:04:51
  We're not complaining. We're discussing these features
• 1:04:54
  and trying to No, he's complaining.
• 1:04:56
  I think the. Issue is jar I'm.
• 1:04:57
  Mining. I'm mining a little bit.
• 1:04:59
  I don't think you can make jar jar better we.
• 1:05:02
  Cannot make him better. That's not lost.
• 1:05:05
  It's. Not lost, We cannot.
• 1:05:06
  Fix him. I'm sorry.
• 1:05:08
  So. Basically.
• 1:05:09
  The the way you. Would have fixed this.
• 1:05:11
  Is that OK? You can't share the mission done
• 1:05:17
  and that. Stuff.
• 1:05:18
  I hated that. When we had that, we're resource
• 1:05:21
  drive, Yeah, well, you could care for resource drive, but it
• 1:05:27
  was absolutely not worth it. It was diluting the the the.
• 1:05:31
  Right. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:34
  I want to share basically this. Guy wants to have his.
• 1:05:37
  Cake and eat it too. I find it interesting that the
• 1:05:41
  sharing is. Always just.
• 1:05:43
  Unless I'm wrong on this, but please correct me if I am.
• 1:05:45
  It's always just all or nothing, right?
• 1:05:49
  It's. Like you can share it.
• 1:05:51
  And everyone gets, you know, it gets split up evenly with
• 1:05:54
  everyone or you can share it and everyone gets the full amount.
• 1:05:58
  Like why have they never done something where it's like you
• 1:06:01
  can share and you know, you each get half the Rep or even if
• 1:06:07
  there's a hundred of you, you each get like 50% of what the
• 1:06:10
  original total Rep would have been.
• 1:06:13
  So they. Tried something?
• 1:06:15
  Different on the PTU, but then they reverted it to sharing the
• 1:06:19
  full amount to everyone. They tried something interesting
• 1:06:23
  and they gave. Up.
• 1:06:24
  But didn't they split the money? The money was.
• 1:06:25
  Split, wasn't it? Money's always split.
• 1:06:28
  Yeah, this is just the Rep was a. 100% so if the mission paid
• 1:06:33
  out, go ahead the way. They did the points on the PTU.
• 1:06:37
  Before they reverted it back to just sharing to everyone.
• 1:06:40
  Is that so? You had the three.
• 1:06:43
  Mission types, right? When you did one of those
• 1:06:46
  mission types you would get in a full group.
• 1:06:49
  Like in a group of anyone you would get full points for that
• 1:06:52
  mission type, but it would then split for the big individual
• 1:06:57
  bar. What do you all think about
• 1:07:00
  that? Because I.
• 1:07:01
  Didn't like that either, but that's what they first tried.
• 1:07:05
  So if a point, if a mission was worth 500 points in let's say
• 1:07:09
  collections, you would get 500 collections points, but you'd
• 1:07:13
  only get 250 if there were two of you, so 250 to your overall
• 1:07:18
  score. What if they do?
• 1:07:26
  What if it was tiered so instead of?
• 1:07:28
  Splitting it up evenly like you know, have you know, say you
• 1:07:31
  have a group of 5 or 10 or 100 and for every you know, like if
• 1:07:37
  you have like 100, you might get a fourth of the points.
• 1:07:39
  If you have 50, you'll get half for, I don't know, something
• 1:07:43
  like that. I.
• 1:07:45
  Think they should be able to scale it per.
• 1:07:47
  Mission, I mean, like for something like this, right, If
• 1:07:50
  you're doing a box, you know, a box cargo mission for six boxes,
• 1:07:55
  yeah. I mean, you know, if you share
• 1:07:57
  that, then there should be, I don't want to call it a penalty,
• 1:08:00
  but you're you're just not going to get the full amount of
• 1:08:03
  points. But if another mission in the
• 1:08:05
  same events has you going up against three Hammer heads and
• 1:08:10
  like half a dozen fighters, that's something that obviously
• 1:08:14
  like they want to have multiple people doing, and you should be
• 1:08:17
  able to share that and still get the full amount of credit.
• 1:08:21
  Yeah, you could. Have like an ideal group.
• 1:08:23
  Size and then penalize it for if it's more than that yeah, like
• 1:08:28
  have. That in in the mission listing,
• 1:08:30
  you know, yeah, that's a good idea.
• 1:08:34
  If we can't. Get dynamically.
• 1:08:36
  Scaling missions, which I'm sure would be very hard for some of
• 1:08:39
  our mission types, then yeah, I I think it would be good to to
• 1:08:45
  have like suggested party size and therefore the rewards would
• 1:08:49
  be for that. But then you then you have to.
• 1:08:53
  Ask and I'm sure they have. The data for this, what would be
• 1:08:56
  those party sizes? What, what do they see people
• 1:09:00
  doing because they've got, they have to have the data for this
• 1:09:03
  like how what is the average number of people doing A8 SCU
• 1:09:10
  cargo mission? And the answer should be no, no.
• 1:09:13
  It's a mega party hope. Yeah, that.
• 1:09:15
  If you recall what we actually. Did.
• 1:09:18
  Was we had the entire server in one party?
• 1:09:21
  I mean, mostly there was like a 97 something people in this and
• 1:09:26
  the missions just kept coming in and if if they.
• 1:09:29
  Allow the game to do that. People are going to keep doing
• 1:09:32
  that and that's going to make it boring and then we're going to
• 1:09:34
  finish. Just want to point out, you
• 1:09:36
  know. I want to.
• 1:09:37
  Point out in. Twitch.
• 1:09:39
  There's a comment in Twitch from someone's name I don't
• 1:09:42
  recognize, Sir. Quick Dickens.
• 1:09:47
  Sir. Quick.
• 1:09:47
  Dickens said. I liked.
• 1:09:49
  The one event where a new story mission got added each weekend.
• 1:09:53
  That's the better way to elongate engagement longer,
• 1:09:58
  Alec. I'm not.
• 1:10:00
  I'm not sure what your reference is.
• 1:10:01
  Do you guys know what Sir Quick Dickens is or everything?
• 1:10:05
  I can't remember the. Name of it, but I do recall.
• 1:10:07
  Them doing that, it was that was what like a year or so over a
• 1:10:10
  year ago, I think that was that. Oh, that.
• 1:10:13
  Was that this can tell us. Yeah, that was the one where.
• 1:10:18
  We're taking on, what's her name, Amelia Boyd.
• 1:10:24
  The different phases for that event.
• 1:10:26
  It wasn't quite weekly, but yeah, it's yeah, I see what you
• 1:10:32
  mean. It was phased in like phase one
• 1:10:35
  was defense or something and phase and that definitely got
• 1:10:39
  you coming back. Like you could.
• 1:10:41
  You could, yeah, he says. You get, you get the F. 7A was
• 1:10:46
  the reward at the end. Oh, OverDrive.
• 1:10:50
  Was OverDrive phased? In like that I.
• 1:10:53
  Don't know. I don't remember, I don't know.
• 1:10:55
  Was that the one where you got the upgrade?
• 1:10:58
  I'm still in denial over other. Things OK OverDrive was the one
• 1:11:04
  where. You got the upgrade, yeah, but I
• 1:11:06
  don't remember that being phased in regardless of which event it.
• 1:11:10
  Was it is a good point Yeah, when when they have.
• 1:11:14
  Done that it. Is it is good?
• 1:11:18
  Yeah, yeah. So look, let's let's.
• 1:11:21
  First of all, everybody, Wicket, let's thank the devs for
• 1:11:28
  providing us. With.
• 1:11:30
  The the the magic of fire extinguisher jet packs.
• 1:11:34
  Amen for listening to our our crankiness.
• 1:11:40
  Maybe maybe every week. So if you could go around and
• 1:11:43
  just say thank you message to the to the I will start.
• 1:11:47
  Thank you all. Right, Duke, that was your
• 1:11:52
  whole. Thank you message.
• 1:11:54
  If I feel like if I say anything more, I'm the jerk, you know?
• 1:11:58
  Thank you CIG for for all the hard work.
• 1:12:00
  Thank you for nots. Thank you Chris Roberts for not
• 1:12:03
  quitting, firing everyone and then running off to the Maldives
• 1:12:07
  with all the money. Thank you.
• 1:12:14
  Hobo. Thank you for.
• 1:12:17
  Letting. Us start to respect physics a
• 1:12:20
  little bit more with the fire extinguishers I guess.
• 1:12:22
  Yeah, fuck yeah, dude. That's fidelity for you.
• 1:12:26
  Murphy, thank you message. Listen, listen I.
• 1:12:38
  I'm a little. I'm a little salty I'm saving it
• 1:12:42
  for off stream. Why?
• 1:12:46
  We need the Subs. We need the.
• 1:12:48
  Followers Murphy. I know, I know.
• 1:12:51
  For our Patreon to get the exclusive behind the scenes off.
• 1:12:57
  The record Open coms. Recording.
• 1:12:59
  Yeah, Also new. Coms up there too close coms
• 1:13:06
  Skeeter What? What do you think?
• 1:13:07
  Thank you message. Oh, absolutely, I mean.
• 1:13:10
  It's an amazing game, as much as we criticize it, like I know
• 1:13:14
  very well as either if you're developing something, managing
• 1:13:17
  something, you're never going to please all the people.
• 1:13:19
  So at any given time that you have at least 1/4 to half of the
• 1:13:22
  population whining and the other quarter to half for praising
• 1:13:25
  you. So thanks for the devs, thanks
• 1:13:28
  for listening to our gripes. And I love the game.
• 1:13:31
  I still play it and we all play it, so we all love it in some
• 1:13:34
  way. There you go.
• 1:13:37
  Wicket. Well, well, well.
• 1:13:40
  Sandy Gardner, I can just imagine.
• 1:13:42
  God damn it. Long nights.
• 1:13:44
  This is your last. Method this is.
• 1:13:45
  You're just supposed to. OK, Sandy Gardner.
• 1:13:51
  At. Night laying next to her her
• 1:13:54
  man, Loris Roberts. Sweet pillow.
• 1:13:57
  Talk. Let's.
• 1:14:00
  Extinguisher. Jetpacks.
• 1:14:02
  Before we. Get cancelled.
• 1:14:06
  Thank you. This is what This is why Sandy.
• 1:14:08
  Doesn't show. Up on the shows anymore.
• 1:14:12
  Or ever or ever. Look.
• 1:14:15
  Look, we're we're going to have to.
• 1:14:17
  I'm sick of these sweaty nerds. Did she, I mean.
• 1:14:21
  I mean. She bless her heart dude, these
• 1:14:24
  stinky fucking grown ass men and all.
• 1:14:27
  Everyone in their black T-shirts and all.
• 1:14:29
  Yes, your jerseys, however you self identify.
• 1:14:33
  Whatever. However you'd like.
• 1:14:37
  All right. Look, look, look.
• 1:14:39
  Next. Year 2026, that's this year.
• 1:14:43
  That's this year. Oh.
• 1:14:45
  This up, we're doing it. We're doing 2020.
• 1:14:47
  Six. Anything could.
• 1:14:50
  Happen. OK, so regarding Star Citizen, I
• 1:14:55
  want 1 prediction from each and everyone of you.
• 1:14:59
  OK, let's let's start with Wicket.
• 1:15:06
  Do you have a prediction? Keep a PC.
• 1:15:08
  Please. Leave Sandy out of it.
• 1:15:14
  I don't. Know.
• 1:15:19
  I don't know. I think my prediction is
• 1:15:26
  probably more systems released. OK.
• 1:15:34
  OK, OK. Hobo, what's your prediction for
• 1:15:39
  the next upcoming year? I know we have.
• 1:15:42
  A lot of things that could be said here, but I'm going to say
• 1:15:45
  one that most people won't think.
• 1:15:47
  I will say swimming. Whoa.
• 1:15:51
  We will be able to. Swim by the end of the.
• 1:15:53
  Year. That's already confirmed.
• 1:15:56
  Is that? Well, hey, Anubis, my secretary.
• 1:15:59
  From Piercer Addison, welcome back to the show well.
• 1:16:04
  Yeah, I got a question. Can you?
• 1:16:07
  Use the jet packs, the fire extinguisher, jet pack water.
• 1:16:13
  Considering we need that. The.
• 1:16:15
  Physics and space were. Just water for the first like
• 1:16:19
  few years of the game, just without water.
• 1:16:22
  Yeah, I think it'll still. Yeah, I think the jet pack will
• 1:16:24
  work the same underwater, but will you right there in the.
• 1:16:29
  Fire extinguisher. Or will it just float?
• 1:16:34
  Yeah, a fire extinguisher will not.
• 1:16:36
  Propelling the fire extinguishers I want to see, I
• 1:16:40
  don't. Think we'll go underwater I.
• 1:16:41
  Think we'll just swim on the water?
• 1:16:45
  And the jet pack would send you across the water.
• 1:16:48
  But is there is the friction? On the water too much for the
• 1:16:53
  jet pack. Look, I'm not a physicist.
• 1:16:59
  We could calculate this. There's there's.
• 1:17:01
  Maybe it'll work. If the, if the.
• 1:17:04
  Fire extinguisher is powerful enough.
• 1:17:05
  It'll work, yeah, but that would be.
• 1:17:08
  That would have to have a. Thrust that would exceed your
• 1:17:10
  actual weight times, inertia times well, friction well.
• 1:17:19
  Is that the equation? It won't work 'cause.
• 1:17:22
  If if it did, you'd break your arms if you fired it.
• 1:17:27
  Why? That's just a tier. 30 We can
• 1:17:29
  deal with that. It would have to be so strong.
• 1:17:32
  That you know that that kind of acceleration suddenly released
• 1:17:37
  like we're not talking about going.
• 1:17:39
  Hundreds of miles an hour. We're just talking about moving
• 1:17:41
  you. Yeah, but.
• 1:17:43
  But think about this. Think about think about someone
• 1:17:45
  throw someone throwing a 400 LB weight at you.
• 1:17:49
  Have you ever had something? You're just?
• 1:17:51
  Have you ever? Seen what happens if a scuba
• 1:17:53
  diver has a leak in their in their in their bottle like at a
• 1:17:59
  hose or something? Yeah, they don't get drunk.
• 1:18:01
  They it, it pushes them. Well, no, but I mean on the
• 1:18:06
  surface. Of the water.
• 1:18:07
  You definitely can't use it underwater.
• 1:18:09
  I don't really think it's be as useful as you need it to be.
• 1:18:12
  I think we need to test this. So we're going to get we're
• 1:18:17
  going. To get swimming, we'll call it
• 1:18:20
  out. We're getting swimming can do an
• 1:18:21
  on stream experiment. With jar jar I'm taking jar.
• 1:18:26
  Jar just a. Couple of guys, middle of.
• 1:18:29
  Winter going to the pool. How far?
• 1:18:32
  How far? Can you skip a?
• 1:18:35
  Guy across the water. With a fire extinguisher.
• 1:18:39
  Go ask rock prediction. Murphy, Jack.
• 1:18:42
  Doesn't have to be jar jar. Murphy, Jack Any?
• 1:18:45
  Predictions. I think we'll get, well, I mean,
• 1:18:51
  crafting's on the horizon, right?
• 1:18:52
  So we're going to get crafting, but I don't think it's going to
• 1:18:56
  be as game changing as we think. Yeah, sad, but probably true.
• 1:19:06
  Like engineering? I think it's going to go the way
• 1:19:09
  of the. Engineering, it's going to be
• 1:19:11
  like a novelty. It's just going to take more,
• 1:19:16
  more time. I think they're going to need to
• 1:19:18
  cook on it more. I don't think it's going to.
• 1:19:22
  Cause mainly because of what happened with engineering.
• 1:19:25
  How how many look at all these fights we've gotten into, right?
• 1:19:29
  How many times have we? Used an engineer.
• 1:19:31
  Maybe once, twice. I'm I'm still.
• 1:19:36
  Salty about that I blame. The light farted mafia for that
• 1:19:44
  and our lack of true armor. I still, I think there's still
• 1:19:50
  hope. It's early.
• 1:19:53
  I think it's early. Oh yeah, it's.
• 1:19:55
  Definitely early it needs to cook but I think expecting
• 1:19:59
  crafting to come in and like change anything I don't know.
• 1:20:09
  Well, it'll it'll, it'll give us.
• 1:20:11
  More reason to play because you're grounding for things now.
• 1:20:14
  You're not just grounding for money now, but hopefully
• 1:20:17
  grinding for, you know, arts. I think the materials.
• 1:20:22
  Crafting's only going to. Really.
• 1:20:24
  Make a big impact when there's certain things that the only way
• 1:20:28
  you can get them is to make them.
• 1:20:31
  Well, that and degradation. Right.
• 1:20:33
  Yeah, degradation things that where you have to.
• 1:20:35
  Repair, you have to maybe make a fix it kit or something.
• 1:20:39
  And I, I think that's all going to happen eventually.
• 1:20:42
  I don't think we'll see that initially.
• 1:20:43
  I think crafting is going to be like, like Murphy said, it's
• 1:20:45
  going to be like a little novelty thing and they're going
• 1:20:48
  to iterate and iterate and iterate, and then finally
• 1:20:50
  they'll get to a happy, happy place that everybody hates and
• 1:20:54
  that'll be the one that we use. Skeeter, any predictions for the
• 1:20:59
  next year? Well, in.
• 1:21:02
  Addition to cargo grid toilets, I I think base building is
• 1:21:07
  probably closer than we think, so I I honestly expect to see
• 1:21:11
  some iteration of base building this coming year.
• 1:21:17
  I'd like to change those underpants.
• 1:21:19
  Yeah. I'm not wearing any.
• 1:21:22
  Pants, come on and. Lord Anubis, any predictions?
• 1:21:26
  For the next year, Alien player. Characters.
• 1:21:32
  Oh. You're dreaming.
• 1:21:35
  He's. Dreaming of the blue.
• 1:21:37
  Be a wanu. Be a Taravan.
• 1:21:40
  We could be an Osoian. What is it?
• 1:21:43
  An Osoian. Oh.
• 1:21:46
  Star Trek, you've been trading in a soy.
• 1:21:48
  And Hinds and you don't. Even know who they are.
• 1:21:51
  How human of you, right bro? Bro I didn't do it.
• 1:21:59
  Those are my. Ancestors.
• 1:22:00
  I had nothing to do with that, whatever it is.
• 1:22:03
  And I don't have to learn about it either.
• 1:22:05
  Oh, God. All right.
• 1:22:08
  So so. This is it.
• 1:22:11
  This is this is the end of the show season 2.
• 1:22:15
  If you've made it this far, please, if you're listening on
• 1:22:19
  the Spotify, give us a little follow there on the Spotify,
• 1:22:23
  give us a rating. If you rate US five stars,
• 1:22:25
  that'd be neat. If you rate US one star, I'd
• 1:22:29
  understand someone already has. So I just want the ratings,
• 1:22:34
  whatever they are. I know and remember the earlier
• 1:22:38
  threat we made. Before about not.
• 1:22:41
  No, we're not. We're not threatening cosmic.
• 1:22:44
  What will we do? If they don't like comment,
• 1:22:49
  subscribe. We will have a.
• 1:22:52
  Stern talk with their parents? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:56
  Yeah, it is you. Didn't you didn't make it to the
• 1:22:58
  harassment meeting? We we will find your parents.
• 1:23:02
  Your friends, your your other relatives, as Cosmic said, can
• 1:23:08
  they stern talking to. With Stern talking to yes.
• 1:23:12
  And it was very. Stern talking to what?
• 1:23:15
  Is that what is that code for? Isn't that code for something
• 1:23:19
  harsh playing? Fellatio.
• 1:23:24
  OK, we're going to go around here at the very, very end of
• 1:23:28
  the show. Here, like we always and have
• 1:23:30
  traditionally done, is tradition.
• 1:23:32
  We're going to go backwards. But because he just got back in
• 1:23:35
  Lord Anubis, we're going to start with you.
• 1:23:37
  Is there anything you'd like to say to Chris Roberts, CIG, or
• 1:23:40
  the people on the Internet? Yes, I'm excited about 20. 26
• 1:23:48
  for this. Game.
• 1:23:48
  Because 2025, although fraught with controversy and everything
• 1:23:53
  like that, turned out to be a banger of a year.
• 1:23:55
  And 2026 is shaping up to be the same.
• 1:23:59
  And so welcome back a month into it, and here's to the next 11
• 1:24:08
  months. Murphy, Jack, Anything you want
• 1:24:11
  to say to CIG Chris? Roberts or the people on the
• 1:24:13
  Internet? Oh, keep.
• 1:24:16
  Going. Keep going.
• 1:24:19
  Don't sound so enthusiastic. Just keep going forward.
• 1:24:26
  Have a little more leniency, would you?
• 1:24:30
  Oh, that's. What?
• 1:24:32
  OK. Did you get suspended or
• 1:24:33
  something? I went up with an e-mail.
• 1:24:36
  I. Just wrote.
• 1:24:39
  What? Oh boy, did you get in trouble.
• 1:24:42
  We're gonna have. A start talking.
• 1:24:43
  This is. This is.
• 1:24:44
  For private coms. Private coms this is close coms
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  hurry up let's. Get through this.
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  I'm going to hear this jar jar you.
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  Should know. Better than.
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  To ask questions like that I. I actually have no.
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  Idea what anybody's talking about right now so we're just
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  going to move along skeeter anything you want to say to CAG
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  Chris Roberts with the people on your net I do but only because I
• 1:25:05
  feel like we. Glossed over this earlier.
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  Murphy, you have cool, don't you?
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  Can you live? On a lake I.
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  Think a pool. Yeah, yeah.
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  So. On a lake, we we can.
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  When, When's the? Party at you have access.
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  To fire extinguishers, don't you I?
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  Mean we could like I thought this was an in game.
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  Experience I listen the lake is not a place to be here oh we
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  need to bring the physics first that's.
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  True, we'll have to have the lake.
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  It would. Definitely work because it's.
• 1:25:35
  Covered in ice. Yeah, that that's a whole.
• 1:25:37
  That's a whole. Another bonus.
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  Experiment right there. It'll be fun to watch, yeah.
• 1:25:43
  Yeah, no. But other than that, you know,
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  keep up the. Good fight.
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  Thanks, CIG. That's it.
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  All right. Wicked anything.
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  You want to say CIG Chris Roberts of the people on
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  Internet? Well.
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  Sandy Roberts, Leave Sandy. Alone.
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  Wait, didn't you already do the Sandy thing?
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  Already wait a. Minute.
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  Alone. Time leave the poor woman.
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  Alone Chris Roberts. Sandy Gardner Roberts, How are
• 1:26:14
  you going after her husband? I just want.
• 1:26:17
  Sandy to keep. Channeling all our good ideas
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  and funneling them to Chris Roberts so he can implement
• 1:26:25
  things like the fire extinguisher jetpack.
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  Thank you very much and look forward to a wonderful 2026 and
• 1:26:35
  stop disappointing me. Thank you.
• 1:26:39
  A little muse there at the end, all right?
• 1:26:42
  I hear him. I hear him huffing.
• 1:26:43
  I hear him puffing. Cosmic hobo.
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  Is there anything you'd like to say to CIG, Chris Roberts or the
• 1:26:48
  people on the Internet I would love.
• 1:26:51
  To see instancing. This year some base building
• 1:26:54
  would be awesome and I, unlike our fearless leader, think
• 1:26:58
  crafting will be more game changing than he's giving you
• 1:27:01
  credit. Well, well, Duke, we did.
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  It don't you want to know what I have to say?
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  Don't I get anything? No.
• 1:27:13
  Who doesn't? No, you've said enough.
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  That's. The sacrifice.
• 1:27:18
  You make being a bigwig beginning though bigwig.
• 1:27:22
  Dookie, Lady Lake I was. Duke LL.
• 1:27:29
  Duke LL you. You understand?
• 1:27:31
  It's the end of the show and what we always do at the end of
• 1:27:34
  the show is you got to play us out, buddy.
• 1:27:42
  All right, open comms the film in front of a live.
• 1:27:50
  Studio audience never said anyone was in that audience.
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  But yeah, I was going to say this is studio.
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  Audience, they are not impressed.