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Getting Organized God’s Way with Eileen Koff & Letting Go of Stuff that Keeps you Stuck with Laurie Davies · Karl and Crew

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  S4: All of my attempts to, you know, prop myself up
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  S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
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  S1: and crew. Tis the season. Not to be jolly, but
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  S1: tis the season to be Cleaning.
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  S6: FA la la la la la la la la.
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  S2: Can you just change that song to make it match
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  S2: whatever season you like? Yeah. For spring you can do
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  S2: it for summer. Just gotta. We gotta find lyrics for
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  S2: each of these things. We'll just sing it all year round.
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  S1: Why is spring.
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  S6: Cleaning?
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  S7: Blah blah blah blah blah. Let me get my mouth
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  S7: moving here. Why is spring cleaning? That's a hard two words.
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  S7: Why is that? Why is spring cleaning a thing? Uh,
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  S7: I know why we're all huddled up over the winter months.
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  S2: Yeah, that's a good one.
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  S7: Eating, putting wrappers, stuffing them down in corners of couch corners.
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  S7: Couch corners.
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  S2: Yeah, I think there's probably some reality to that. Things
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  S2: get cluttered up in the cold months, at least for
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  S2: most of the country, through the cold months. But I
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  S2: think then as well, you know, taking it like the
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  S2: metaphorical way you've got like spring is a time of renewal. Yeah.
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  S2: You know, things are popping up, spring it around.
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  S7: Coming through the soil.
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  S2: Yeah. And you say you want to have a little
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  S2: bit of renewal in your life as well. Get rid
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  S2: of some things, freshen up some things, make it feel new.
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  S7: Yeah, I went out front here about a week ago,
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  S7: got out a shovel and those street sweepers, usually there's
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  S7: cars out on the streets, you know, so they go
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  S7: all around them and there were no cars there. And
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  S7: I'm like, ha! Tis the season to be street sweeping.
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  S7: And so I got out my big old green monster
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  S7: dumpster and a little flat shovel and just scooped it. Boy.
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  S7: And it's there's endorphins that go off when you do that.
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  S2: There is something that feels innately amazing about cleaning things.
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  S2: I get that feeling every night when when we're getting
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  S2: ready for bed because I've got a two year old.
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  S2: And so the living room.
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  S7: Ah, you're right about this one. Keep going.
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  S2: Dude gets filled with toys all throughout the day. And
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  S2: then at nighttime, it's time to get those things cleaned up.
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  S2: And it feels so good to get that living room
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  S2: floor visible again.
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  S7: I love our granddaughter. I love baby Kate so much. Yes,
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  S7: and she is so much fun. But when she's out
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  S7: of here, I love so much.
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  S2: Cleaning up.
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  S7: Collapsing the little temporary wood fence thingy that we have
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  S7: that creates a playpen, collapsing that down, getting that all
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  S7: flat and organized. Oh, it's.
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  S2: A.
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  S7: Beautiful thing hauling all of those toys up to the
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  S7: designated spot.
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  S2: You like.
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  S7: Oh yeah.
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  S2: Look at how much space I have in here.
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  S7: We got our home back. Ah, she's a blessing and
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  S7: a half, but it's just wild how that works, isn't it?
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  S2: Yeah, it really is. It's just something good about cleaning, man.
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  S7: Well, we have got a real treat for you all
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  S2: I'm excited. I love some new voices coming in.
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  S7: It's going to be great. Buckle up. Get a swig
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  S7: of water. Put the broom down. We'll get to that
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  S7: in time. First off, we got to get equipped, coached
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  S7: Carl and Crew.
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  S1: Take your next step with Jesus today. You're listening to
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  S7: Tis the season not to be jolly but to be cleaning.
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  S7: It's springtime. And you know I want to just begin
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  S7: with this reality boom crew. It can feel overwhelming. It
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  S7: can feel discouraging. You can hear voices of condemnation. Those
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  S7: are not of God. So we're walking a tightrope here
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  S7: today because we want to champion the theology of organization order,
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  S7: and yet not tromp on your soul because Satan's there already.
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  S7: And we want to get some freedom because we're all
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  S7: about taking that next step with Jesus. With me right
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  S7: now is Eileen Coffin. She is guys. I mean, literally
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  S7: in 2013 she won the best green service. It's a
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  S7: national association of productivity and organizing professionals. She's a CPO,
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  S7: if you know what that is. That's the certified professional organizer.
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  S7: And she's with us right now. Eileen, you're with me
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  S7: on this one. We don't need to tromp on people here.
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  S7: They feel beat up enough, right, sister?
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  S8: That's right. And I always tell everyone, it's not your fault.
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  S8: There's no judgment here. The world and the enemy of
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  S8: this world has kept us at a pace where it's like,
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  S8: you know, it goes against everything God has ever told us.
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  S8: So I always say there's no judgment, I get it,
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  S8: I understand we're all riding the boat.
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  S7: Yeah. Uh, Eileen, I want to begin with the theology
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  S7: of order. And I love going after this. And I
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  S7: know you're prepared for this one. A lot of times
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  S7: we look at order or organization. And we actually see
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  S7: that as almost like a it's detached from God, but
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  S7: nothing's closer to the character of God. Is that right, Eileen?
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  S8: That's correct, that's correct. It even starts with the first
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  S8: thing he says in Scripture. Genesis one one God is
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  S8: a God of order. You know, in the beginning God
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  S8: created he and he took order out of disorder. First
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  S8: thing order.
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  S7: Where else do we find in Scripture this theology of order?
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  S8: It's the the scriptures. The Bible is replete of of,
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  S8: of scriptures. Just. It's everywhere. You you don't you don't
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  S8: have to go very far. Um, Ecclesiastes 311, he has
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  S8: made everything beautiful in its time. John. John nine four
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  S8: is as long as it is day, we must work
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  S8: of him who sent me. Night is coming and no
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  S8: one can work. I love this one in Psalms 9012,
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  S8: teach us to number our days, that we may gain
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  S8: a heart of wisdom. Yeah. Um, it's just, you know,
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  S8: Ecclesiastes three one. There's a time for everything. A season
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  S8: or activity under the heavens. Time is replete. Work for this.
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  S8: The six days. And on the seventh day you rest.
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  S8: I mean, it's it's everywhere.
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  S7: Yeah, I love it that that Psalm 90 is such
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  S7: a cool psalm because it's the only song that Moses wrote.
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  S7: And I've been saying this a lot. He doesn't say
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  S7: wise people redeem time. He says people redeem time and
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  S7: bring order to their lives become wise, which is hugely hopeful. So, Eileen, um,
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  S7: where do we begin when you're coaching someone who feels
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  S7: like I'm disorganized? Um, maybe there's a clutter issue. Maybe
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  S7: there's just no organization to the few things they have.
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  S7: How when you're coaching someone. I want you to do
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  S7: a mass coaching session here this morning. When you're coaching someone,
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  S7: where do you begin?
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  S8: Prayer.
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  S7: Really?
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  S8: Yes. Prayer. Because it's not about me. It's not about them.
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  S8: It's about what the Holy Spirit wants to fulfill within them.
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  S7: I love.
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  S8: That. So the first thing you do is you pray
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  S8: and you ask the Lord. So many of my clients go, Eileen.
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  S8: I always ask them, what's bothering you the most. And
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  S8: they'll say, well, in terms of space, they'll say, you know, well, this,
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  S8: this one or this one or this one. I said, okay,
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  S8: let's pray and ask the Lord. Which one does he
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  S8: think is the priority? And they'll come back and they'll go, oh, Eileen,
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  S8: you know, that was really strange. I heard this, so
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  S8: maybe we should start it here. So I said, okay.
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  S8: And so the thing about time is if you want
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  S8: to do this, if you're really committed and you're really,
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  S8: you know, this is a high priority in your life.
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  S8: If you're saying yes to this, what are you saying
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  S8: no to? In other words, we only all have 24
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  S8: hours in a day. And if you want to create
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  S8: something that you've never done before, you're going to have
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  S8: to give something up in order to fulfill your desire.
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  S7: You know, you've written get organized God's way, bring God's
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  S7: order into every area of your life, and you've been
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  S7: interchanging time redemption with organization. I'm getting a hint here
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  S7: that you think time redemption is paramount to getting things
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  S7: lined up. Is that true?
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  S8: That's correct, that's correct. Our we only have so many,
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  S8: so many days. And then we're going to be with
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  S8: the Lord. And so the concept is, is that do
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  S8: we want to continue to continue to do with what
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  S8: the world has taught us to just stay focused on
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  S8: materialism or stay focused on how busy we are has
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  S8: to so that we don't. We don't seep into those
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  S8: gifts and those callings that the Lord has planned for
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  S8: our lives before we were even born. Yeah. And, and
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  S8: we're all going to stand before the Lord. That's not
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  S8: the issue, but how we spent our time on earth,
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  S8: what we were able to accomplish with those giftings and
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  S8: those abilities that he only gave us. We're one body.
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  S8: We're not. You know what I do? I can't do
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  S8: what you do. So if we're one body, we have
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  S8: to understand what are our giftings? How can I qualify
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  S8: for all the purposes that God had placed in my life?
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  S8: So that when I stand before him, he will say,
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  S8: well done.
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  S7: I lean cough. My guest right now, sought after speaker,
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  S7: certified professional organizer, and an award winner of Best Green
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  S7: Service by the National Association of Productivity and Organizing Professionals.
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  S7: I still want to go after this because I think
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  S7: you're right on, Eileen. This is really profound, but there's
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  S7: a lot of people that want to get to that.
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  S7: But they've got to clean up this. Why is that so?
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  S8: In order to get to hear the Lord, he has
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  S8: a still small voice. Clutter and disorganization screams. I mean,
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  S8: I have so many clients that go. I go into
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  S8: that spare bedroom. I can't even walk in. It's screaming
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  S8: at me or I can't concentrate or I can't. And
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  S8: so what they are feeling is literally a very scientific back.
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  S8: And that's equal that that back is by Albert Einstein.
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  S8: E equals MC squared. All matter has energy. And so
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  S8: when you walk into a small area with so much
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  S8: stuff around you, all of that stuff is creating its
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  S8: own unconscious energy bombarding you. And so what you are
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  S8: hearing and what you are feeling is an unconsciousness of
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  S8: that energy that's being propelled at you. And so you
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  S8: have to leave. So in order for you to actually
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  S8: begin hearing from the Lord in his still small voice,
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  S8: you have to begin eliminating the shouting that the clutter
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  S8: is giving to you.
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  S7: Profound. Eileen Cough is my guest coming up here in
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  S7: a moment. Let's get really practical. And then we're going
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  S7: to have a link for you. Boom crew. Hang on.
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  S7: More with Eileen straight ahead.
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  S1: Your shot of hope to get you through the day.
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  S5: You are so, so loved. God does not want you
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  S5: to stay in your past. And I want you to
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  S5: know and believe that today.
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  S1: You're listening to Carl and Crew.
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  S7: Eileen Cough is my guest. She's a speaker, certified professional
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  S7: organizer and award winner, by the way, from the National
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  S7: Association of Productivity and organizing professionals. Eileen, let's just break
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  S7: it down. You've established something good. When we have space
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  S7: that is disorganized, I guess you don't even have to
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  S7: not look at it to know that it's there, right?
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  S7: Even those cupboards or closets, even if you got the
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  S7: doors closed, it's still screaming your name, right?
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  S8: Well, in some respects, yes. Sometimes we've lived with it
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  S8: for so long we don't even notice it. And so
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  S8: when I say when you want to get started, take
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  S8: a picture. Okay. Take a picture of the space and
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  S8: then go into another room and take a look at
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  S8: it and people will go, oh, it really doesn't look
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  S8: like that, does it? Or, oh my gosh, I never
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  S8: realized it was so bad. Or the look at things
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  S8: with with a picture is, is the truth. And they'll say, oh,
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  S8: I never even realized it until I actually put it
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  S8: in and took a picture of this space, how bad
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  S8: it really is.
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  S7: What do you do then, Eileen? After you get a picture,
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  S7: what do you do? But besides sitting down and and
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  S7: grabbing a plate of Oreos. Because that's so discouraging. What
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  S7: do you do?
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  S8: Well, it's different for everybody, but here's just a couple
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  S8: of really good pointers that you can start with. I
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  S8: always say you can't do a whole room. You've got
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  S8: to break it down into teeny tiny little, you know, places.
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  S8: So I say, okay, so take a paper towel roll
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  S8: and put it up to your eye and take one
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  S8: little area of the corner of a room and whatever
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  S8: is within that circle of that that you're looking through,
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  S8: that's what you do. And they'll go, oh my gosh,
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  S8: you mean I don't have to do all of this
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  S8: wall or all.
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  S9: Of this space?
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  S8: And I go, no, you just start small because in Scripture,
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  S8: God has this already covered. It's in Joshua when Joshua
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  S8: goes and takes the land and that's what we're doing.
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  S8: We're taking our land and he says, you can only
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  S8: have it little by little. I'm giving it to you,
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  S8: but you're going to have to fight for it. Good.
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  S8: It's not just yours. You've got to fight for this,
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  S8: but you have to do it little by little. And why?
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  S8: Because the wild beasts will come in and devour everything
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  S8: you've done. If you do it all at once.
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  S7: Okay. What? What do you do next? You've looked through it.
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  S7: You've seen it. You've got the big picture. Now you've
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  S7: got the toilet paper roll. Love that picture. Now, what
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  S7: do you do?
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  S8: You set a timer. You only give yourself 10 or
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  S8: 15 minutes a day. Now, why is that? Because this
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  S8: is new. And this has gone to bombard you with
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  S8: all kinds of thoughts and all kinds of emotions and
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  S8: everything that you that you have not tackled before. So
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  S8: you only want to do this 10 or 15 minutes
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  S8: a day. But be consistent because you're building a habit,
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  S8: you're building structure into your life that hasn't been there before.
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  S8: So when you do this, little by little, it all
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  S8: of a sudden becomes so motivating and you can begin
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  S8: seeing the results that you've never seen before.
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  S7: How do you determine, Eileen, what needs to be thrown out,
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  S7: what needs to be given away, and what needs to
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  S7: be held on to?
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  S8: Well, the first thing I say is you can do
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  S8: what I call a treasure hunt. Okay. You can go
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  S8: around saying that small little area and pick up the
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  S8: things that are most important to you. So that's your
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  S8: treasure hunt for the day. Okay, so what wasn't picked
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  S8: up is either something that is to be put into
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  S8: the trash or being recycled responsibly. And the other one
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  S8: is blessing, I call it don't have a donate bin,
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  S8: then have what I call the blessing bin.
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  S7: Oh, yes.
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  S8: Everything that you have in your home. Everything. Everything God
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  S8: has blessed you with. And if you're not being responsible
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  S8: with the blessings that God has given to you, he's
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  S8: looking to see, can you bless someone else with it?
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  S7: Guys, you're listening to Eileen Cough right now and there
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  S7: We got the power. We we get.
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  S7: Yeah. Love it. You know, and I think one of
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  S7: the theological. Yeah, studying God and seeing that he was
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  S7: a God of order and organization. And that's, that's great
• 19:30
  S7: because we always want to begin from that point. Let's
• 19:33
  S7: let the Word of God direct us here.
• 19:35
  S2: Absolutely. And I love having that. The understanding of God's
• 19:39
  S2: character in that knowing we're created in the image of
• 19:43
  S2: God we talked about earlier this hour. Why does it
• 19:46
  S2: feel so good to have things clean and in order? Well,
• 19:50
  S2: we're made in his image, so when we understand him more,
• 19:53
  S2: we can understand some of these innate things within ourselves more.
• 19:56
  S7: Amen. Alright, get the show cast by texting show to
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  S7: 800 555 7898 800 555 7898. Well the beat goes
• 20:08
  S7: on here. Young Thunder.
• 20:10
  S3: Where.
• 20:10
  S2: Are we going?
• 20:12
  S7: Well, the interesting thing is that we find ourselves maybe
• 20:16
  S7: in clutter. And what if I told you that there's
• 20:20
  S7: an emotional spiritual clutter that needs to be dealt with?
• 20:24
  S7: First and foremost, we're going to be tackling that aspect
• 20:28
  S7: of disorder coming up.
• 20:30
  S1: She's a Choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her.
• 20:35
  S1: Super di is in the crew. It's Carl and crew
• 20:39
  S1: on Moody Radio.
• 20:41
  S7: There's a classic term that's used Young Thunder. You've heard
• 20:44
  S7: this one before. The issue is rarely the issue.
• 20:48
  S2: Yeah, and it said a lot because it's true. If
• 20:52
  S2: I'm walking around grumbling and maybe having some trouble controlling
• 20:57
  S2: my anger, it's probably not just because the guy in
• 21:00
  S2: front of me cut me off. There's probably something deeper
• 21:02
  S2: to that.
• 21:02
  S7: I mean, scripture's clear. What comes out of your mouth
• 21:05
  S7: is really a heart issue. And counselors say the presenting
• 21:09
  S7: issue often isn't the issue, because what presents itself is
• 21:13
  S7: often something a little bit deeper. Lori Davies with me
• 21:17
  S7: right now, former journalist, women's ministry director, and she's got
• 21:22
  S7: a handle on this thing called emotional hoarding, letting go
• 21:27
  S7: of the stuff that keeps you stuck. We've got a
• 21:30
  S7: whole week here of get it together, folks. And yet
• 21:33
  S7: there's no condemnation in this. What usually is the presenting issue?
• 21:38
  S7: That when you dig a little deeper, there's something emotional
• 21:41
  S7: going on. What do you say, Lori?
• 21:43
  S10: Yeah, that's a loaded question right out of the chute.
• 21:45
  S10: I think maybe we could pick on anger for a
• 21:48
  S10: minute since since you brought that up, you know, anger,
• 21:52
  S10: we often talk about it as a secondary emotion. So
• 21:57
  S10: when we talk about quote unquote hoarding anger, to your point,
• 22:02
  S10: what we're really hoarding is something deeper. It takes a
• 22:05
  S10: lot of courage to go kind of digging for that,
• 22:08
  S10: looking in our emotional closets, if you will, because often
• 22:11
  S10: what we find there underneath anger is grief or loneliness. Fear,
• 22:19
  S10: something that's much harder to express. Anger is easier to grab,
• 22:23
  S10: which is why when someone cuts you off in traffic,
• 22:25
  S10: you unload in anger. But yeah, to your point, there's
• 22:29
  S10: there's almost always something deeper.
• 22:32
  S7: Yeah, I'm, I'm loving this topic. I don't know that
• 22:35
  S7: we've ever gone after this. Um, you know, we can
• 22:39
  S7: think about organizationally stuff that you hoard, but your contention
• 22:45
  S7: is emotionally, if we don't offload and clean the shelves
• 22:49
  S7: of our heart, it's going to bite us in the
• 22:52
  S7: backside here. Bottom line. Right. Lori.
• 22:54
  S10: Yeah, that's a really clear bottom line. I mean, I
• 22:57
  S10: think emotionally hoarded hearts are an awful lot like physically
• 23:04
  S10: hoarded homes. There's only so much space. And at a
• 23:09
  S10: certain point in a hoarded home, for example, entire rooms
• 23:13
  S10: stopped working the way they were designed to, to work.
• 23:18
  S10: You know, you can't make dinner in the kitchen anymore
• 23:20
  S10: because there's stuff stacked everywhere. So it's the same in
• 23:24
  S10: an emotionally hoarded heart, you know, entire areas of our
• 23:27
  S10: heart Stop working right. If we don't, let the Lord
• 23:31
  S10: be Lord over everything in there.
• 23:35
  S7: Uh, Lori. So let's, let's even back up a little
• 23:39
  S7: bit more. What is emotional hoarding?
• 23:44
  S10: Yeah, that's a great question. I think we're all familiar
• 23:46
  S10: with emotional baggage, right? Right. So when we use that term,
• 23:50
  S10: we're generally talking about, um un processed undealt with difficult emotions.
• 23:57
  S10: And so this emotional hoarding, this concept kind of takes
• 24:00
  S10: that up a notch because this is now we're getting
• 24:04
  S10: into emotions that we have allowed to accumulate. Sometimes we
• 24:09
  S10: do that willingly. You know, we like holding on to grudges,
• 24:15
  S10: which the emotion attached to that is bitterness. Sometimes we
• 24:19
  S10: do it in sort of a self-preservation way, right? Like
• 24:23
  S10: we learned patterns in childhood. We learned to say sorry
• 24:27
  S10: for things that maybe weren't our fault. So now we
• 24:30
  S10: struggle with false guilt. And sometimes we think we should
• 24:33
  S10: hold on. If we hold on to that shame that'll
• 24:37
  S10: keep us from relapsing into sin. So there's a variety
• 24:41
  S10: of reasons why we hold on. But this idea of
• 24:44
  S10: emotional hoarding is emotional accumulation.
• 24:48
  S7: How many people are emotionally hoarding because they don't want
• 24:53
  S7: to let someone else off the hook?
• 24:56
  S10: Oh, man. Well, all of us maybe.
• 24:58
  S7: Yeah, I think probably 100% right at some level.
• 25:02
  S10: Yeah, at some point in our lives. Actually, I like
• 25:05
  S10: that question a lot because one of the things that
• 25:07
  S10: surprised me when I was researching this book. Emotional hoarding
• 25:11
  S10: was that statistically, at any given time, each of us
• 25:16
  S10: is holding on to seven grudges.
• 25:20
  S11: Wow. Wow.
• 25:21
  S7: There's science on this.
• 25:23
  S10: There's science. And actually, I said that at a retreat
• 25:26
  S10: last weekend. And, you know, there were a couple women
• 25:29
  S10: seated near the front that were kind of like making
• 25:31
  S10: the facial expression. I'm not holding a grudge. And to
• 25:35
  S10: that I said, and if you feel like you have
• 25:38
  S10: a clean slate, you're not a grudge holder. You forgive easily.
• 25:41
  S10: That's great news. But that means the woman next to
• 25:43
  S10: you is holding grudges.
• 25:46
  S7: And the one you've thought that is. It isn't true anyway. Um.
• 25:50
  S10: Right. Yeah.
• 25:52
  S7: So if you're going to not emotionally hoard grudges, what's
• 25:57
  S7: God planned to deal with them? And I'm not talking
• 26:00
  S7: about all out bitterness, I'm just talking about grudges because
• 26:03
  S7: those can be nagging and weighty, can't they?
• 26:07
  S10: Yeah, I think I think it takes a little bit
• 26:10
  S10: of courage to look in the mirror and say, you know,
• 26:14
  S10: I'm holding on to this and I like how it feels. Yeah.
• 26:20
  S10: So I think that's a good starting point. But I
• 26:24
  S10: think it just takes a you know, when Jesus said,
• 26:27
  S10: carry your cross daily. I used to think that meant
• 26:31
  S10: just check marks on a reading plan. I think this
• 26:34
  S10: is the kind of stuff he was talking about. Lay
• 26:38
  S10: it down. It's not worth the cost.
• 26:41
  S7: Laura Davies is my guest right now. Coming up here
• 26:44
  S7: in a moment. Let's get. We can't unpack all of
• 26:47
  S7: it because you've written on it extensively, but let's give
• 26:50
  S7: some basic steps of how you identify emotional hoarding and
• 26:56
  S7: how you begin to offload it more with my guest,
• 26:58
  S7: Laura Davies, straight ahead.
• 27:00
  S1: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
• 27:03
  S7: Laura Davies with me right now, she's the author of
• 27:06
  S7: a brand new book, and we're going to feature this
• 27:09
  S7: in just a moment. But one of the cool things,
• 27:12
  S7: and when I say brand new, I'm talking this month, guys,
• 27:15
  S7: one of the cool things that we're tackling here today
• 27:17
  S7: that I don't think we've ever gotten after this directly
• 27:19
  S7: is emotional hoarding. How do you help people identify whether
• 27:24
  S7: they're hoarding really bad emotions? Because not all emotions are bad.
• 27:28
  S7: By the way, but how do you help people identify
• 27:31
  S7: if they're doing that?
• 27:32
  S10: Each chapter in emotional hoarding deals with an emotion. And
• 27:38
  S10: so in each chapter, there's kind of a cheat sheet on, hey,
• 27:42
  S10: this might be building up in you if a, b, c, d, e. Um,
• 27:48
  S10: so globally 10,000 foot view, I would say we can
• 27:51
  S10: tell we're emotional hoarders if we're ruminating on something, think
• 27:55
  S10: about it all the time. Or if we're completely avoiding
• 27:59
  S10: it going the opposite direction, like you've heard the euphemism,
• 28:03
  S10: you know, just sweeping things under the rug.
• 28:05
  S7: Yes.
• 28:06
  S10: So one way or the other, a lot of this
• 28:08
  S10: stuff shows up in our physiology. You know, we're not
• 28:11
  S10: sleeping well. Our tummies hurt. Um, so there are those
• 28:17
  S10: kind of global symptoms, but then in each chapter I
• 28:20
  S10: look at, well, what happens if worthlessness has built up
• 28:25
  S10: in you? What are the symptoms of that? Same with fear.
• 28:29
  S10: Same with worry. Same with bitterness. We've already hit on.
• 28:34
  S10: So I think the reader will kind of be able
• 28:38
  S10: to look step by step at, hey, this. This might
• 28:42
  S10: have built up and I didn't even see it.
• 28:44
  S7: So let's take a big one. Let's take the emotion
• 28:47
  S7: of bitterness over betrayal. Okay, let's just go after that one.
• 28:52
  S7: If I walk into you and I say, and by
• 28:54
  S7: the way, this is women and men, everybody struggles with this.
• 28:58
  S7: But let's say I walk in you and go, Lori.
• 29:00
  S7: All right, here's the deal. I was burned by a buddy,
• 29:06
  S7: and that betrayal hurts. And the reason it's betrayal is
• 29:09
  S7: because he was a buddy, right? You don't you don't
• 29:11
  S7: feel betrayed by the guy on the street that calls
• 29:13
  S7: you an idiot. So I was betrayed. Now I've got
• 29:17
  S7: this emotion that I'm holding on to or hoarding. How
• 29:21
  S7: do I let it go?
• 29:22
  S10: Well, first you have to identify it. We can't fix
• 29:25
  S10: what we won't name. So I think take inventory first.
• 29:29
  S10: Are you consumed with negativity toward that person? Do you
• 29:33
  S10: not like it? If something good happens to that person.
• 29:37
  S7: Oh good one.
• 29:39
  S10: Do you keep tabs on that person not letting them
• 29:42
  S10: out of your life? Like, do you do you kind
• 29:44
  S10: of check their social media all the time? Um, do
• 29:47
  S10: you feel irritated if their name comes up? So I
• 29:49
  S10: think first we have to look at is this has
• 29:53
  S10: this built up in me? And then for the letting go,
• 29:57
  S10: I think there has to be a movement toward, Lord,
• 30:01
  S10: I'm willing to start this process of forgiveness. You know,
• 30:04
  S10: the the dad in Mark nine, the dad who says,
• 30:09
  S10: I believe, Lord, help my unbelief. I think we kind
• 30:12
  S10: of start the same process with forgiveness. Like, Lord, I
• 30:15
  S10: forgive all my unforgiveness And we enter that process of,
• 30:21
  S10: of understanding that bitterness isn't going to get us closer
• 30:24
  S10: to Christ. It's not going to get us closer to people.
• 30:27
  S10: And in the end, it's just not worth the toll
• 30:30
  S10: that it takes on our hearts.
• 30:33
  S7: What's the blue sky vision here? Lori. Lori Davies, my guest,
• 30:37
  S7: by the way, author of this new book, Emotional Hoarding.
• 30:39
  S7: I'm going to have a link for you here in
• 30:40
  S7: just a moment, not only to the book but to
• 30:42
  S7: her site. So it's going to be a cool, cool
• 30:45
  S7: link here. But what's the blue sky vision? What are
• 30:48
  S7: we aiming for? How do you I mean, come on,
• 30:51
  S7: put a carrot out there. What are we going after here?
• 30:54
  S10: Freedom. Freedom is our target. I think if we're looking
• 30:59
  S10: essentially at what happens when things stack up, we're talking
• 31:02
  S10: about grudges. Maybe dread around secrets, regrets, fear when all
• 31:09
  S10: of that stuff compounds. Well, that starts to sound like
• 31:12
  S10: a life of bondage.
• 31:13
  S11: Yeah.
• 31:14
  S10: That's exactly where the enemy wants us to.
• 31:19
  S7: Here it is, guys. Boom! Crew, we want to get
• 31:21
  S7: this in your hands. Text the word stuck. It's called
• 31:24
  S7: emotional hoarding. Letting go of the stuff that keeps you stuck.
• 31:28
  S7: Just text the word stuck to 805, five, five, 78, 98,
• 31:34
  S7: 805 five, five, 7898. You're going to find two links
• 31:40
  S7: embedded there. Use them both and watch God work in
• 31:43
  S7: your life. Freedom is the goal. Text the word stuck
• 31:46
  S7: to 800 555 78, 98.
• 31:52
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• 31:58
  S7: Yeah man, what a day. What a day. You know
• 32:02
  S7: what today is?
• 32:04
  S2: What's today?
• 32:05
  S3: I know.
• 32:06
  S7: What's today.
• 32:07
  S12: Saint Patrick's day.
• 32:08
  S7: It sure is.
• 32:09
  S2: Oh.
• 32:09
  S3: Is it?
• 32:10
  S12: Are you wearing green? Oh, no you're not. I don't
• 32:12
  S12: think any of us know. I'm sorry about all of
• 32:14
  S12: us going. Scoring. Well, there you go.
• 32:17
  S7: So what did you know about super? I nailed it.
• 32:21
  S7: What did you know about Saint Patrick's Day? I knew
• 32:24
  S7: one thing as a kid growing up.
• 32:26
  S3: Was that.
• 32:27
  S7: You got to wear green.
• 32:28
  S2: Gotta wear green or you get pinched.
• 32:30
  S12: That was about it. Yeah.
• 32:31
  S7: And then as I got older, I learned one other
• 32:34
  S7: thing about Saint Patrick's Day.
• 32:36
  S2: What's that?
• 32:37
  S7: You know, it's a day for drinking.
• 32:40
  S3: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Pubs are.
• 32:43
  S7: Flowing and.
• 32:44
  S3: Green.
• 32:45
  S7: Beer and all that stuff.
• 32:46
  S3: Yeah.
• 32:47
  S7: You know, it's interesting. Um, it's interesting how we have
• 32:53
  S7: to be careful with history or else great legacies can
• 32:57
  S7: be lost. Right, guys?
• 32:58
  S3: Very true.
• 32:59
  S12: Yeah.
• 33:00
  S7: I was thinking about this last night. And this morning
• 33:03
  S7: as I was working on a project of Saint Patrick, who,
• 33:08
  S7: by the way, 300 find out his birth date. I
• 33:12
  S7: don't actually have that. I think we've got it pinned
• 33:14
  S7: down somewhere. But he was taken as a slave. Uh,
• 33:22
  S7: to Ireland when he was 16 years old, guys. And
• 33:26
  S7: he worked alone in the cold. And he was raised
• 33:30
  S7: in a Christian home. But as often is the case,
• 33:35
  S7: he was Christian in name only when he was taken
• 33:37
  S7: as a slave. But then God got a hold of
• 33:41
  S7: him in the middle of the day, middle of the night, cold, alone, hurting.
• 33:49
  S7: And boy did did God do a work in his life.
• 33:54
  S7: Saint Patrick is one of the most extraordinary guys going,
• 33:58
  S7: one of the most extraordinary guys going. And we're going
• 34:03
  S7: to do something really fun here this half hour. We're
• 34:07
  S7: going to reach back and I want you to I
• 34:10
  S7: don't care if it's Kelly. I don't care if it's
• 34:13
  S7: Brother Lawrence. I don't care who it is. But if
• 34:17
  S7: you want to champion one of the greats of old
• 34:24
  S7: and give us a quick snapshot about their life in
• 34:28
  S7: like 3 or 4 sentences, somebody who's dead and gone,
• 34:33
  S7: maybe long dead and gone, and you want to get
• 34:36
  S7: a snapshot of their life. Maybe you just know a
• 34:38
  S7: few things about them and have read their writings. Maybe
• 34:41
  S7: it's a watchman nee, for instance, who was, uh, passed
• 34:45
  S7: away in 1972 in prison in China, 20 years incarcerated
• 34:51
  S7: for his faith, was given an opportunity to come to America.
• 34:55
  S7: I mean, there's another one, right? Wow.
• 34:58
  S2: Great legacy.
• 34:59
  S7: The problem with Saint Patrick is that what got lost
• 35:02
  S7: in this thing is you got to wear green or
• 35:05
  S7: it's a day for drinking, right? And the dude had
• 35:09
  S7: so much more than that. Let me tell you how
• 35:12
  S7: much more I have got a link for you that
• 35:18
  S7: is going to take you to a post that I
• 35:20
  S7: made about Saint Patrick. It's not fully exhaustive, but it's
• 35:24
  S7: got quotes from his quote confession, which is a great writing,
• 35:30
  S7: and it tells the story of Saint Patrick. So I'm
• 35:33
  S7: going to let you read it first. Then I'm going
• 35:35
  S7: to expand on it a little bit for this next
• 35:37
  S7: 30 minutes. But we're going to take your calls as well.
• 35:40
  S7: But I want you to grab this. We need to
• 35:44
  S7: reclaim the legacy of Saint Patrick today. Put a stake
• 35:49
  S7: in the ground and go, no, this is who this
• 35:51
  S7: guy was. And what a rich man of faith. I
• 35:55
  S7: can't wait to meet Saint Patrick. My goodness. And by
• 36:00
  S7: the way, we don't pray to him. Saint Patrick wouldn't
• 36:02
  S7: have wanted that. Oh, wait. We got one mediator between
• 36:06
  S7: God and man, and his name is Jesus. Yeah, but boy,
• 36:10
  S7: what a life, what a life, what a legacy, what courage.
• 36:15
  S7: And it was forged in faith. Responsible for. I can't
• 36:19
  S7: hold myself back. Responsible for baptizing thousands upon thousands of
• 36:24
  S7: people in Ireland. Went back to the very people that
• 36:28
  S7: had taken them captive. Even though God had delivered him.
• 36:32
  S7: He heard in a vision the the voice of people
• 36:36
  S7: of Ireland saying, come back here, boy, you who were
• 36:40
  S7: rich in faith, come back to us. And he did it.
• 36:44
  S7: Risk of death at every corner. So just text the
• 36:48
  S7: word pat p a t not saint, not Patrick, just
• 36:54
  S7: pat to 800 555 7898. I want you to get
• 37:00
  S7: a real taste of Saint Patrick's Day, and I've just
• 37:04
  S7: got the Cliff's Notes there. And then at the end
• 37:06
  S7: of this post, I've got a few little takeaways for you.
• 37:09
  S7: Text the word pat p a t to 800 555 7898.
• 37:17
  S7: One word pat to 800 555 7898. Today we're going
• 37:25
  S7: to reclaim the legacy of Saint Patrick. What a fun
• 37:29
  S7: thing to do on Saint Patrick's Day.
• 37:30
  S12: Man, I love this, I really do, I really do.
• 37:34
  S2: Let's make it more than just.
• 37:35
  S3: A day.
• 37:35
  S2: For partying.
• 37:36
  S12: And green, you know?
• 37:37
  S3: Yeah, I mean, yeah.
• 37:39
  S7: Dye the river green. That's okay. By the way, I
• 37:41
  S7: didn't know that in the in in the river downtown Chicago.
• 37:46
  S7: I didn't know it only took double check me on
• 37:48
  S7: this one. I thought I misheard and maybe I did,
• 37:52
  S7: but £40 or something of this dye. That can't be,
• 37:56
  S7: can it? Anyway, forget Diane Rivers or drinking green beer.
• 38:02
  S7: Text the word pat to 800 555 7898. Got a
• 38:07
  S7: link for you that's going to take you to a
• 38:09
  S7: post that I made that's reclaiming this great legacy. One
• 38:14
  S7: word Pat p a t to 800 555 7898. And
• 38:20
  S7: coming up, we're going to flashback, reclaim a ton of
• 38:24
  S7: legacies in the next 30 minutes is going to be
• 38:26
  S7: a fun little exercise, isn't it guys.
• 38:28
  S3: I.
• 38:28
  S2: Can't.
• 38:28
  S3: Wait.
• 38:29
  S12: Looking forward to.
• 38:29
  S3: It.
• 38:31
  S1: Hang on your shot of hope to help you through
• 38:34
  S1: the day. This is Karl and crew on Moody Radio.
• 38:39
  S7: Who invented that beer drinking garbage about Saint Patrick's?
• 38:42
  S3: I don't know. Here's how.
• 38:44
  S7: Here's how it happened. It actually happened with the Irish
• 38:47
  S7: immigrants to America because they wanted to keep their culture strong.
• 38:50
  S7: They felt very alienated. You talk about a persecuted group
• 38:54
  S7: of people. When the Irish came stateside here, they were
• 38:57
  S7: looked down upon big time. So there was a desire
• 39:01
  S7: to keep that culture alive and they turned it into
• 39:04
  S7: a festival and then it just kind of slid downhill
• 39:07
  S7: into green beer and green rivers, and you got to
• 39:10
  S7: wear green or you get pinched. Yeah, but what a
• 39:13
  S7: bummer if it stayed there.
• 39:15
  S2: Yeah, I mean, we had it. This is not the
• 39:18
  S2: first time we've seen people or holidays that are honored
• 39:22
  S2: for something noble or, or Christ like. Take Christmas for example.
• 39:27
  S2: And then it's turned into like, well, we got Santa
• 39:29
  S2: Claus and he gives gifts and presents and he comes
• 39:32
  S2: down your chimney and eats your cookies and milk. And
• 39:34
  S2: it's like, well.
• 39:34
  S3: Yeah, and.
• 39:35
  S7: Santa is cool.
• 39:36
  S3: Santa.
• 39:36
  S2: I don't, I ain't got no problem with.
• 39:38
  S3: Santa, but.
• 39:39
  S7: Christ is.
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  S3: Better.
• 39:42
  S7: Central.
• 39:43
  S2: Yes.
• 39:43
  S7: So the birth of the savior of the world.
• 39:46
  S2: Yeah. You gotta have that.
• 39:47
  S3: Yeah.
• 39:48
  S2: So yeah, no, I yeah, we lose the we lose
• 39:51
  S2: the point sometimes on some of these things. It's good
• 39:54
  S2: to go back and reclaim and understand what these things
• 39:58
  S2: are really about.
• 39:59
  S3: Yeah.
• 40:00
  S7: So text the word pat and, uh, I've got the
• 40:04
  S7: whole story. Not the whole story, but I got the
• 40:06
  S7: high points of Saint Patrick's life. It'll blow your mind.
• 40:09
  S7: It'll blow the circuits. You're going to find out how
• 40:12
  S7: the shamrock is more than a shake. It was used
• 40:15
  S7: to explain the Holy Trinity. That's what he used it for.
• 40:18
  S2: That's crazy. The Shamrock shake, man. I remember when I
• 40:22
  S2: worked at McDonald's. Shamrock Shake big. Obviously someone came in
• 40:26
  S2: and ordered over 200 small Shamrock shakes.
• 40:31
  S3: Not joking.
• 40:32
  S2: For a big party, they were having.
• 40:35
  S12: A joke or something.
• 40:36
  S2: Okay, it was a real thing. We put them in
• 40:38
  S2: cardboard boxes because they had no other way to carry them.
• 40:40
  S3: All right.
• 40:40
  S7: We're going to have some fun here. Right now. We're
• 40:42
  S7: not talking Shamrock Shakes here. I can't imagine how many
• 40:46
  S7: chemicals were in those suckers a lot. Oh. When? When
• 40:50
  S7: you buy stuff in in. It's designed to melt, but
• 40:53
  S7: it doesn't. It just gets hard.
• 40:55
  S2: It gets hard. It doesn't.
• 40:57
  S3: Get hard.
• 40:58
  S7: No, I mean, cheap ice cream doesn't melt. It just
• 41:00
  S7: sits there and kind of coagulates. I mean, it melts
• 41:04
  S7: a little. No, I'm not kidding you guys. I know
• 41:07
  S7: I'm going crazy here.
• 41:09
  S3: I know.
• 41:09
  S12: But I'm like.
• 41:10
  S3: Oh, I love it.
• 41:12
  S7: If you want to hear about Saint Patrick, text the
• 41:14
  S7: word Pat to our number here, man, I've got it
• 41:16
  S7: laid out for you in bullet format with some takeaways
• 41:19
  S7: at the end and, uh, follow along guys. Text Pat
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  S7: to 800 555 7898 800 555 7898. Okay. This leads
• 41:31
  S7: to a phenomenal discussion. Do you know how many stories
• 41:35
  S7: of greats that have gone before us, that lived these
• 41:38
  S7: incredible lives? And some of you have read about them
• 41:41
  S7: recently or, and there's myriad of these. I mean, you
• 41:45
  S7: take Kelly, the Quaker. I love his writings. You take, uh,
• 41:49
  S7: watchman nee surprised by the spirit. Is that is that. Yeah.
• 41:55
  S7: That's watchman nee uh, you take I mean, the list
• 41:59
  S7: goes on and on. We did this earlier this morning.
• 42:01
  S7: Early this morning Chuck Colson came up. Beautiful man. I
• 42:05
  S7: mean there's greats out there. So I'm asking you to
• 42:08
  S7: call and in 2 to 3 sentences talk about the greats.
• 42:14
  S7: And these are not I'm not looking for family members necessarily.
• 42:17
  S7: I'm looking for these historic figures that are maybe somewhat
• 42:21
  S7: obscure to the modern mind. But man, they've got a
• 42:25
  S7: their life is a story to tell. And in 3
• 42:27
  S7: or 4 sentences, share it. Give us a call 800
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• 42:36
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• 42:41
  S1: Start your day moving closer to Jesus. You're listening to
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  S1: Carl and Cru.
• 42:47
  S7: Yeah, man, we're just taking your stories here. I want
• 42:50
  S7: you to think about this one for a moment. Boom Cru,
• 42:52
  S7: think about the people that have gone before us. And
• 42:56
  S7: I'm not I'm not. I want to be specific here.
• 42:58
  S7: I'm actually looking for people who have gone on to
• 43:01
  S7: their reward. These are spiritual greats that have gone on
• 43:04
  S7: to their reward. And think about their lives. Uh, Young Thunder,
• 43:09
  S7: you were mentioning Elizabeth Elliot, and that's my wife's love language.
• 43:12
  S7: How about you?
• 43:13
  S12: Super day. I mean, without a doubt, Billy Graham was
• 43:15
  S12: the first one that popped into my head. Yeah, without
• 43:18
  S12: a doubt. I mean, the most prominent. I mean, come on.
• 43:20
  S12: Evangelist of the 20th century, another C.S. Lewis. Yeah. His writings.
• 43:24
  S12: Come on. Yeah. Big time.
• 43:26
  S3: Yeah.
• 43:26
  S7: Good stuff, good stuff. So we're taking your calls here.
• 43:30
  S7: Let's celebrate the lives and legacy of those that have
• 43:33
  S7: gone before us here. It's an awesome thing to look
• 43:36
  S7: back at these lives. I mean, I, I think about
• 43:39
  S7: Watchman Nee. I don't know if there are any other
• 43:41
  S7: watchman nee fans out there.
• 43:43
  S2: I, I did not know about Watchman Nee until you
• 43:46
  S2: had talked about him.
• 43:46
  S3: Oh my goodness.
• 43:48
  S12: With Jonathan.
• 43:49
  S2: And I love the story. I they offered him the
• 43:53
  S2: opportunity to stay alive if he just would leave the country.
• 43:59
  S7: China?
• 43:59
  S2: Yeah. China. And he said, no, I'm not gonna do it.
• 44:02
  S2: This is this is where God has called me to be.
• 44:05
  S2: They kept him in prison. And for years he faced
• 44:08
  S2: so much persecution and hardship and eventually died there. But
• 44:12
  S2: I couldn't believe it. It was a great story of
• 44:14
  S2: his and faithfulness.
• 44:15
  S7: It's phenomenal for sure. Samantha in Miami, Florida. What do
• 44:19
  S7: you say, Samantha?
• 44:22
  S13: Hello. Um, I'm very inspired by Horatio Spafford. Um, despite
• 44:27
  S13: all the hardship that he went through, he continued to
• 44:31
  S13: be a great man of God and used everything he
• 44:34
  S13: went through to spread the gospel.
• 44:36
  S7: You got that right.
• 44:38
  S13: Having gone to Israel and established, uh, churches and outreach there, he, uh,
• 44:43
  S13: he did a lot of his work is still, uh,
• 44:46
  S13: there shining through the through the darkness.
• 44:49
  S3: Yeah.
• 44:49
  S7: Big time. Amazing. Grace. Right?
• 44:51
  S2: Horatio Spafford uh, it is well, with my soul.
• 44:54
  S7: It is well with my soul. That's right. Yeah, it
• 44:57
  S7: is well with my soul.
• 44:58
  S3: He wrote that following the great Chicago Fire.
• 45:01
  S2: I didn't know that.
• 45:02
  S3: Yeah.
• 45:03
  S7: Really?
• 45:04
  S2: Yeah. It was it was in follow up to the
• 45:06
  S2: Great Chicago Fire.
• 45:08
  S3: I did not know that.
• 45:09
  S2: And the deaths of his four daughters on a transatlantic
• 45:12
  S2: voyage aboard the S.S. Harvey.
• 45:16
  S7: Oh my goodness. Yeah, that's, uh, you might want to
• 45:21
  S7: tee that one up here.
• 45:22
  S3: Yeah, you got it here.
• 45:24
  S7: My.
• 45:24
  S3: Man.
• 45:25
  S7: Yeah. It is. Well, with my soul. MM. Good stuff. So,
• 45:30
  S7: what do you say? Boom! Crew. Who is that person
• 45:33
  S7: that has gone before us? And they left a legacy
• 45:39
  S7: that's so incredibly powerful. 805, five five, 78, 98, 800
• 45:47
  S7: 555 7898. We'll get back to your phone calls here
• 45:53
  S7: in just a moment.
• 45:55
  S1: Romans eight brought her to Jesus while broadcasting traffic overnight.
• 45:59
  S1: Super di is in the crew. It's curl and crew
• 46:03
  S1: on Moody Radio.
• 46:05
  S7: Man, we got a lot of feedback coming in here
• 46:07
  S7: right now. This is beautiful. Who's that great. That's gone
• 46:10
  S7: before us that we can't leave and lose the legacy.
• 46:13
  S7: By the way, I've been spiking this on the heels
• 46:14
  S7: of Saint Patrick, Saint Patrick's Day. Who's Saint Patrick? I'll
• 46:19
  S7: tell you who he is. He's one of the great
• 46:22
  S7: heroes of the faith. Born around 385 A.D..
• 46:26
  S3: That's right.
• 46:26
  S7: Wrote a book, confessions, and where he articulated the story.
• 46:31
  S7: I've put like six, seven quotes with a bulleted life
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  S7: story of everything you need to know about Saint Patrick today.
• 46:39
  S7: And I'm getting some responses on this. People are going,
• 46:42
  S7: I never knew this story. This is why we got
• 46:44
  S7: to spread the word, guys. So text the word pat
• 46:48
  S7: to 800 555 7898. Just the word pat to 800
• 46:55
  S7: 555 7898. Going back to the phone lines, grabbing these heroes, Pete. Kenosha, Wisconsin.
• 47:02
  S7: What do you say, Pete?
• 47:04
  S14: Hey, good morning guys. Uh, the person that comes to
• 47:07
  S14: mind for me is Phil Robertson from the Duck Commanders. Yeah.
• 47:11
  S14: Before you laugh, that was a man who was a sinful,
• 47:15
  S14: sinful person early on in his life, gave his life
• 47:18
  S14: to Christ and became an ambassador. Everything he did was
• 47:23
  S14: for God and about God, and he wanted that for everyone.
• 47:27
  S7: I had him on air here before he went on
• 47:29
  S7: to his reward, bro. And was he bringing the heat? Guys,
• 47:32
  S7: you remember that interview?
• 47:34
  S12: I do remember that interview. Yeah.
• 47:36
  S2: He was an incredible man.
• 47:37
  S7: Incredible man of God. Way to go, Pete. Appreciate you
• 47:40
  S7: mentioning Phil Robertson, Jeanette and Florida. What do you say, Jeanette?
• 47:45
  S15: Uh, uh, Doctor Barkham, he was instrumental, especially with the homeschool.
• 47:53
  S15: and he lived the life. He was such a such
• 47:59
  S15: an apologetic for the Lord. And he went home to
• 48:03
  S15: be with the Lord last year. And it's just such a.
• 48:08
  S15: You know, I believe he left such a dent. Yeah.
• 48:12
  S15: When it comes to, uh, being a good apologetic and
• 48:18
  S15: especially for the, for the home school because he had
• 48:22
  S15: about 13 kids and he lived what he, what he ministered.
• 48:26
  S7: Yeah. I knew a little bit about that home. Go ahead. Jeanette.
• 48:31
  S15: Yeah. Um, not a lot of people know about him,
• 48:34
  S15: but if you listen to some of his message when
• 48:37
  S15: it comes to the family raising kids. Yeah. And just
• 48:41
  S15: for even the modern day, the deception we're facing. He
• 48:46
  S15: spoke out boldly.
• 48:48
  S7: He did. Jeanette, let me tell you what I want
• 48:50
  S7: to speak on. He was one of the clearest gospel
• 48:53
  S7: preachers you will ever hear. I can find him online.
• 48:57
  S7: YouTube clips, shorts, reels are all over the place. We
• 49:01
  S7: are so grateful for this testimony. We've got Elizabeth Elliott
• 49:05
  S7: came in here from Newton, Mississippi. We've got others coming in.
• 49:11
  S7: We aren't.
• 49:11
  S3: Going to.
• 49:11
  S12: Be able.
• 49:12
  S7: George Mueller was featured here. Wow, what a good thing.
• 49:16
  S7: It's a good thing to look at these great men
• 49:20
  S7: and women of faith that have gone before us and
• 49:23
  S7: reclaim their legacy. Man. It matters. It really does. You
• 49:28
  S7: want to learn about Saint Patrick? Text the word pat
• 49:31
  S7: right now. I've written in a very short post what
• 49:36
  S7: you need to know about Saint Patrick that is not
• 49:38
  S7: commonly known about him. It might rock you. Text Pat
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  S7: to (800) 555-7898 one word. Pat to (800) 555-7898.