Latest / Podcast Championship Wrestling / Episode 81 WrestleMania 41 Night 2 Review
Transcript
- 0:11Speaker 1: Now we're checking off the show.
- 0:15Speaker 2: This place is outside down.
- 0:19Speaker 3: Welcome to Wressole.
- 0:28Speaker 4: The greatest love of it in entertainment.
- 0:39Speaker 5: The moments has arrived.
- 0:46Speaker 4: He O good, you won't defend he win this World
- 0:48Speaker 4: Championship against the Alcablair.
- 0:52Speaker 6: We are reference to the sid.
- 0:56Speaker 3: To conten So no, we're gonna put the ins.
- 1:01Speaker 7: And is for.
- 1:02Speaker 4: Sure some man are content on the championships on the line.
- 1:15Speaker 6: You know something?
- 1:16Speaker 4: He can but you people blown And he said, I
- 1:20Speaker 4: you streams will be made up of so many friends.
- 1:23Speaker 8: When I'm winning life, pop dreams.
- 1:25Speaker 3: Won't be realized.
- 1:27Speaker 4: Your time is finally up and my time is finally.
- 1:34Speaker 5: Do you want some come.
- 1:45Speaker 3: So w W and e c W alumni look bloomenie
- 1:52Speaker 3: and you're listening to pc W.
- 1:56Speaker 6: The question is, oh, when I talk to her, I
- 2:06Speaker 6: will give you a show like you have never covered
- 2:10Speaker 6: seen the pot.
- 2:11Speaker 7: Of life because I can't.
- 2:14Speaker 6: What do you guys want to talk about?
- 2:21Speaker 7: God?
- 2:27Speaker 3: From the color of red in the world with a
- 2:30Speaker 3: black and.
- 2:31Speaker 9: White either a world?
- 2:37Speaker 10: Yeah, let your mother.
- 2:47Speaker 6: If you don't be excusing the cha.
- 2:56Speaker 5: What's that big of mad?
- 2:58Speaker 6: You got a bigger bad And I thought, whoa right here?
- 3:04Speaker 3: You know bad comes back to.
- 3:12Speaker 7: Oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, chill and fall.
- 3:22Speaker 11: He's just welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast
- 3:25Speaker 11: Championship Wrestling. I am your host, Wayne also known as
- 3:28Speaker 11: Semi dry Chicken, and we're here for night too electric
- 3:31Speaker 11: Boogooroo of WrestleMania forty one. And I'm not doing this alone.
- 3:36Speaker 11: Let's bring him out.
- 3:42Speaker 4: I might have been telling you now.
- 3:47Speaker 9: It's un me.
- 3:48Speaker 12: Okay, Danny's chump me.
- 3:52Speaker 7: Dry chunking me.
- 3:54Speaker 4: Okay, Danny war there's that lot of fun for lack
- 3:58Speaker 4: of damn lund like.
- 4:00Speaker 5: It's on me now.
- 4:04Speaker 9: I wanna get him all.
- 4:06Speaker 2: I'm gonna get him all.
- 4:11Speaker 9: Oh Jim, I would you.
- 4:17Speaker 7: Dre Welcome back, buddy?
- 4:19Speaker 6: What a do pc W crew main eventre Uso is
- 4:23Speaker 6: back on your podcast. It's like his allergies.
- 4:30Speaker 3: All right.
- 4:42Speaker 2: M h.
- 4:44Speaker 7: M hm.
- 4:47Speaker 2: M m.
- 4:50Speaker 9: M m.
- 4:52Speaker 6: M hmmmmm.
- 5:01Speaker 9: Doyle, Yes, the man with a lady song.
- 5:06Speaker 7: It's me.
- 5:06Speaker 9: It's me, It's the lady. And maybe it's because we
- 5:10Speaker 9: went last year.
- 5:12Speaker 8: Maybe it's because last year it was just a better show,
- 5:14Speaker 8: I think, But last year WrestleMania.
- 5:17Speaker 9: Felt like it lingered in the air for a while.
- 5:20Speaker 8: After the fact, and this year I feel like I've
- 5:22Speaker 8: already moved off.
- 5:26Speaker 6: All those factors.
- 5:28Speaker 7: Absolutely.
- 5:30Speaker 11: Yeah, it definitely doesn't feel like last year it felt lackluster,
- 5:35Speaker 11: like we're missing something, like it felt like this was
- 5:38Speaker 11: all for the money. This year, we didn't get the
- 5:41Speaker 11: WrestleMania I feel like we wanted and you know what
- 5:47Speaker 11: now that you know, I'm just gonna run it over
- 5:50Speaker 11: real quick. But I actually saw that there was a
- 5:53Speaker 11: a viral picture from the new show ww Unreal on Netflix.
- 5:58Speaker 11: The show originally planned it shows in the background matches
- 6:01Speaker 11: for WrestleMania forty one, and at the time was a
- 6:06Speaker 11: World typeweight Championship CM Punk versus Seth Rollins versus Gunther
- 6:11Speaker 11: So we had triple threat for the world title. How
- 6:14Speaker 11: we would have gotten there, don't know. Women's World Championship
- 6:18Speaker 11: Riha versus Bianca bell Air. I would have loved that,
- 6:21Speaker 11: just one on one w W Women's Championship, Jay Cargill
- 6:26Speaker 11: versus Nia Jacks. We would have had the Wyatt six
- 6:31Speaker 11: versus Judgment Day. We would have had the women's tags
- 6:34Speaker 11: Charlotte and Becky Lynch versus Eo Sky and Oscar bad
- 6:40Speaker 11: Bunny versus Dominic Mysterio and bron Breaker versus Drew McIntyre
- 6:46Speaker 11: were some of the matchups that they had. Now, to me,
- 6:50Speaker 11: that sounds like a prett damn good WrestleMania.
- 6:54Speaker 5: Some of it I like. Some of it.
- 6:57Speaker 6: I don't care for a like Charlotte and versus EO
- 7:01Speaker 6: and Oscar I could, I wouldn't care for that match.
- 7:08Speaker 9: It just seems like, especially not when we got instead.
- 7:14Speaker 6: Right, I damn sure wouldn't take that over what we
- 7:15Speaker 6: wound up getting now, Ria versus Bianca one on one.
- 7:21Speaker 6: I think we've discussed that. Well, we'll get into that
- 7:24Speaker 6: obviously when we talk about.
- 7:25Speaker 5: What we did get.
- 7:28Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yes, But Jay Cargo versus Naya Jackson for
- 7:33Speaker 6: the WWE Women's Championship, that feels like a bit of
- 7:37Speaker 6: a reach. I mean, I would have loved to see Naya,
- 7:40Speaker 6: you know, defend the title WrestleMania.
- 7:41Speaker 5: That would have been a nice you know, feather in
- 7:43Speaker 5: her cap.
- 7:44Speaker 6: Yeah, but I assume that if they were going to
- 7:46Speaker 6: book that match, then the plan would have been to
- 7:48Speaker 6: put the title on Jade Cargill.
- 7:51Speaker 5: And that seems a bit early.
- 7:55Speaker 9: M M.
- 7:58Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so too.
- 8:02Speaker 11: Also, I kind of I think, uh, the White Six
- 8:06Speaker 11: of its judgment day would have been pretty decent. I
- 8:09Speaker 11: don't know how they would have gotten into that either,
- 8:10Speaker 11: but I guess setbacks with injuries and and whatnot.
- 8:15Speaker 6: I guess I guess we never get would have got there.
- 8:19Speaker 6: They would have been cutting a promo, lights would have
- 8:21Speaker 6: went black, is it would have started playing Six would
- 8:24Speaker 6: have shown up matchup wrestle media and I.
- 8:28Speaker 7: Gotta make everything so damn predictable. That's true, but it's
- 8:32Speaker 7: not fair. Uh yeah, let's let's get into night too.
- 8:41Speaker 11: I'm glad, you know what. I also want to say that, like,
- 8:43Speaker 11: I'm kind of glad we got the little break in between.
- 8:46Speaker 11: Normally we tried doing back to back and a lot,
- 8:50Speaker 11: you know, for people don't know. We we cover a
- 8:53Speaker 11: lot of wrestling just watching in general. So at the
- 8:56Speaker 11: end of it, it's very exhausting as sometimes we just
- 8:59Speaker 11: need a little bit of a buffer or break, you know.
- 9:02Speaker 11: So you're lucky you got that episode so quickly, because
- 9:05Speaker 11: that was pretty fast. Uh but uh, yeah, I'm glad
- 9:09Speaker 11: we got the buffer.
- 9:10Speaker 7: People had time to listen to it and get back
- 9:13Speaker 7: to me on some things. But yeah, Drake takeover.
- 9:19Speaker 6: All right, yep. Night two WrestleMania with a alleged attendance
- 9:25Speaker 6: of sixty thousand, three hundred and forty three strong emphasis
- 9:29Speaker 6: on the word alleged tensoun. Oh that must be the
- 9:34Speaker 6: bottom line, man, But this match helpe me not matched.
- 9:40Speaker 6: Night two started off with what was probably the best
- 9:43Speaker 6: match of the night and Triple Thread for the Women's
- 9:46Speaker 6: World title Eo Sky the champion defending against Bianca Bellair
- 9:50Speaker 6: and rear Ripley. And like I said, this was probably
- 9:54Speaker 6: the best match of the night.
- 9:57Speaker 8: Women's match and women and WWE Women's it's up there.
- 10:02Speaker 9: I mean it's in the conversation.
- 10:04Speaker 6: It's definitely up there. This yeah, yeah, yeah, because this
- 10:10Speaker 6: match cooked from the jump, like immediately it cooked. They
- 10:16Speaker 6: just started going at it off top and they never
- 10:21Speaker 6: let up for the entire match. They gave us so
- 10:24Speaker 6: many moves, counter moves, combo moves, near falls from start
- 10:32Speaker 6: to finish, like very I don't I can't think off
- 10:36Speaker 6: the top of my head of any noteworthy botches or
- 10:38Speaker 6: anything that stood out like this match was a banger,
- 10:42Speaker 6: an absolute banger, and you could have legitimately made an
- 10:45Speaker 6: argument for any one of the three winning at any point,
- 10:50Speaker 6: like they legit all had legit finishers that you thought, well,
- 10:55Speaker 6: here it could's that's the finish, here's the three count,
- 10:57Speaker 6: just for somebody to kick out it too. Yeah.
- 11:01Speaker 8: I mean that's the ark of a great match right there,
- 11:03Speaker 8: right when you when you believe that every well usually both,
- 11:07Speaker 8: but in a multi person match, when there's moments where
- 11:09Speaker 8: you believe any one of them may do it and
- 11:12Speaker 8: you're biting on those fights, those false finishes.
- 11:14Speaker 6: You know exactly exactly, But ultimately it was eoskuy who
- 11:20Speaker 6: pulled out the win after what didn't Bianca hit a
- 11:26Speaker 6: ko D? Bianca hit a ko D on rear and
- 11:29Speaker 6: then eos guy hit over the moon salt on Bianca.
- 11:32Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how she got the pick.
- 11:33Speaker 7: She capitalized on it.
- 11:35Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, which is great in matches, you know. I
- 11:39Speaker 11: mean that that's how mostly a triple threat match, you know,
- 11:42Speaker 11: kind of ends. It's just somebody capitalizes on a moment.
- 11:46Speaker 11: But it's how it's you know done, How it's how
- 11:50Speaker 11: that third act is finished and how we we put
- 11:52Speaker 11: it together. And they did it great, you know. Dre
- 11:55Speaker 11: like going into this like I'm thinking, like, okay, Bianca
- 11:58Speaker 11: is like under feeded in like at WrestleMania, not not
- 12:02Speaker 11: including a battle was a Battle World.
- 12:04Speaker 7: But like she's what like four O or something like that.
- 12:10Speaker 11: So like, you know, I'm thinking in my head, like,
- 12:12Speaker 11: you know, she's got this far, she's building momentum. They're
- 12:14Speaker 11: talking about it, like are we really gonna give her
- 12:18Speaker 11: the l here? And then Rea it just being the
- 12:21Speaker 11: unstoppable forre she's been the past year and a half,
- 12:23Speaker 11: you know, and we're finally seeing these two superstars finally collide.
- 12:29Speaker 11: But you know, and then you have EO, who's been
- 12:31Speaker 11: just absolutely a blast since.
- 12:34Speaker 7: Since she's been on the main roster in the past
- 12:37Speaker 7: few years. I love her. Every time she's at work
- 12:40Speaker 7: in a War Games match, uh, you know, LEO always
- 12:44Speaker 7: has uh some of the best spots in some of
- 12:46Speaker 7: these these multi multi women matches, you know, some of
- 12:49Speaker 7: these high spots.
- 12:51Speaker 9: Uh.
- 12:51Speaker 11: You know, she's a lot smaller, so they used her
- 12:53Speaker 11: as a weapon. I've seen a couple of times, like
- 12:56Speaker 11: you know, Bianca's just picking up EO and hit her
- 12:58Speaker 11: with Rio or hitting real with her, you know, And
- 13:04Speaker 11: especially in the past few weeks, that kind of made
- 13:06Speaker 11: it seem that EO was being kind of ignored in
- 13:09Speaker 11: her own title Feld, you know, and you know she
- 13:14Speaker 11: had enough of it, and you know, I was like,
- 13:17Speaker 11: she has to come out on.
- 13:18Speaker 7: Top, right, I mean we talked about this last episode.
- 13:21Speaker 8: Yeah, well the whole match kind of existed to level
- 13:24Speaker 8: EO up.
- 13:25Speaker 9: It does, right, exactly what it did.
- 13:27Speaker 7: Absolutely.
- 13:29Speaker 8: Oh, it's just that that's exactly what it did, and
- 13:31Speaker 8: that was kind of the whole point of the match,
- 13:33Speaker 8: and that's exactly what it accomplished. You know, uh, Rhea
- 13:37Speaker 8: and Bianca have been super women for the last several years,
- 13:41Speaker 8: and eventually you need other people to be up on
- 13:43Speaker 8: that same level. Also, you know, you can have you
- 13:47Speaker 8: known people bounce in and out of the main event, well.
- 13:50Speaker 5: You know what have you.
- 13:51Speaker 8: But it definitely needed to even though she's been champion before,
- 13:55Speaker 8: uh needed to level up EO.
- 13:57Speaker 9: And I think they definitely mission accomplished on that one.
- 14:00Speaker 5: Absolutely.
- 14:01Speaker 6: I mean this legitimizes her as top of the car champion.
- 14:06Speaker 6: Like the first title run, it was a good run.
- 14:09Speaker 6: She had a nice lengthy run actually because she held
- 14:12Speaker 6: it from was it like, wasn't it like SummerSlam to
- 14:15Speaker 6: WrestleMania or shortly after? Yes, yeah, she lost the Bailey WrestleMania.
- 14:21Speaker 6: I mean when she won it. She won it by
- 14:22Speaker 6: cashing in the money in the bank briefcase, and I
- 14:25Speaker 6: think that was at SummerSlam on Bianca right after Bianka
- 14:29Speaker 6: had the Was it was that a triple threat match
- 14:33Speaker 6: she had at Summer Slam twenty twenty three. I can't.
- 14:40Speaker 5: I want to say if it was a triple.
- 14:43Speaker 9: Way too.
- 14:44Speaker 7: I remember the cashing though.
- 14:46Speaker 6: I remember, yeah, yeah, because Eo cashed in after the
- 14:50Speaker 6: match because Bioka had successfully defended the title, and then I.
- 14:57Speaker 11: Thought she achieved it. She got the title and then
- 15:00Speaker 11: lost it right away. That's what I thought happened, right
- 15:04Speaker 11: We're thinking too hard back here anyway.
- 15:11Speaker 6: Either way, the point is Eo had a good, lengthy
- 15:13Speaker 6: run that first time, but it didn't really do a
- 15:17Speaker 6: whole lot for her, like I guess people had hoped,
- 15:20Speaker 6: because one she had the matches, but every she was
- 15:24Speaker 6: still with Damage Control at the time and they were
- 15:26Speaker 6: helping her retain the title a lot. And then when
- 15:29Speaker 6: she finally kind of really had to stand on her
- 15:31Speaker 6: own in a match, she wound up losing the Bailey
- 15:35Speaker 6: mm hmm, despite the fact that she had good matches.
- 15:38Speaker 6: But this one right here, when you're going over the
- 15:40Speaker 6: two top women on the roster and beating them in
- 15:44Speaker 6: a match, and and doing it with the crowd behind
- 15:47Speaker 6: you the entire time. Not only does it get her
- 15:50Speaker 6: super over right now, and like I said, it establishes
- 15:53Speaker 6: her as a legitimate champion mm hmm, and like she's
- 15:57Speaker 6: not in the you know, placeholder status right.
- 16:00Speaker 9: Now like from you know the plus player.
- 16:05Speaker 5: Exactly.
- 16:06Speaker 6: My one ripe with this match, though, my one right
- 16:10Speaker 6: with it, despite how good it was, is I don't
- 16:13Speaker 6: like that Beyonca took the pin.
- 16:16Speaker 5: That that's my one guy.
- 16:17Speaker 6: I'm not saying that Ria should have picked the pit
- 16:18Speaker 6: took the pin again. My pitch would have been, EO,
- 16:22Speaker 6: get the pin over both of them, like stack them
- 16:24Speaker 6: up and sham stack them up, hit the over the moon,
- 16:28Speaker 6: over the moon salt and get the pin on both
- 16:31Speaker 6: of them. That way, she really would have had the
- 16:33Speaker 6: legitimate killing. Like, no, I didn't just beat one of y'all,
- 16:35Speaker 6: I beat both of you, and it would have really
- 16:38Speaker 6: been no doubt, no questions left. But more so my
- 16:42Speaker 6: gripe is with the fact that they made Beyonca take
- 16:46Speaker 6: the pen more so than than anything, because I've maintained
- 16:51Speaker 6: my position that Bianca was legit had the most legitimate
- 16:55Speaker 6: gripe the entire time with Rhea being inserted in this match,
- 17:00Speaker 6: even though we know they did it for the fans
- 17:04Speaker 6: and because it's obviously as popular as real is right now,
- 17:07Speaker 6: despite everything, which is a separate issue with and of itself.
- 17:13Speaker 6: But you also get into her streak for no real reason.
- 17:20Speaker 6: I mean that seemed a bit premature for me, just
- 17:24Speaker 6: as that was becoming a thing, and it also.
- 17:37Speaker 7: Wrong j taylors your feelings, Like.
- 17:44Speaker 6: I didn't like the fact that Bianca took the l byers. Like,
- 17:48Speaker 6: granted Eel has wins over both of them, somebody didn't
- 17:52Speaker 6: have to lose. I just would have preferred it be
- 17:55Speaker 6: her stack to both of them get the win over
- 17:57Speaker 6: both of them. Like it really is in the position
- 18:00Speaker 6: right now where a loss doesn't hurt her at all.
- 18:05Speaker 6: Like if she'd have been pinned by EO at WrestleMania,
- 18:08Speaker 6: she would get the exact same pop she's still getting
- 18:11Speaker 6: at this point. She wouldn't fall down the car, she
- 18:13Speaker 6: wouldn't lose her status Bianca a little bit. Right now,
- 18:18Speaker 6: she's still one of the top women wrestlers on the roster,
- 18:22Speaker 6: but she's been at a bit. You could argue she's
- 18:24Speaker 6: been in a bit of a downward trend for at
- 18:27Speaker 6: least a year from when she's from you know, last year,
- 18:33Speaker 6: locked into the tag division and then in and out
- 18:38Speaker 6: of that, almost to the points where some people were
- 18:41Speaker 6: trying to stupidly, in my opinion, trying to see Bianca's
- 18:45Speaker 6: a mid carter now because she's in the tag division,
- 18:48Speaker 6: which was dumb. But she's been in that for the
- 18:50Speaker 6: last in and out last year exactly like nobody can
- 18:55Speaker 6: stay in the main event picture.
- 18:56Speaker 9: For her, that sounds that's a great use of it,
- 18:59Speaker 9: I think right, and.
- 19:00Speaker 6: I agree, like nobody can stay in the main event
- 19:02Speaker 6: picture forever. But she's been in that tag division in
- 19:07Speaker 6: and out. I don't know that they had it. They
- 19:09Speaker 6: had maybe in the whole year, in one or two
- 19:12Speaker 6: peel the matches in that whole year, and then she
- 19:16Speaker 6: went from that to getting back into the title picture
- 19:19Speaker 6: with the win at elimination Chamber just to take the pin.
- 19:22Speaker 6: Now fans are getting, I guess, tired of her character.
- 19:29Speaker 8: Well, I think I, like I said in the discord,
- 19:32Speaker 8: at the end of the day, I think they're going
- 19:34Speaker 8: to do Bioncorea in some slam and I assume that
- 19:38Speaker 8: is going to play the heel, which will be an
- 19:40Speaker 8: interest in dynamic.
- 19:41Speaker 9: I'm kind of looking forward to that. I know you
- 19:43Speaker 9: get upset when she gets booed, and so do I,
- 19:46Speaker 9: but uh I kind of I'm interested to see what
- 19:50Speaker 9: she does.
- 19:50Speaker 8: As a straight up peal because you know, we have
- 19:53Speaker 8: I guess she wasn't healing n x TA, but we
- 19:55Speaker 8: really haven't seen it on the main roster. Uh So
- 19:58Speaker 8: I'm interested to see some versatility out of her because
- 20:01Speaker 8: that's like one thing she hasn't really done yet.
- 20:04Speaker 6: Well, my issue isn't so much with Bianka getting booed.
- 20:07Speaker 6: I have no problem with her or any character getting
- 20:11Speaker 6: booed when it makes sense to boo them. Bianca, I
- 20:15Speaker 6: feel like, at least right now, it doesn't make it
- 20:19Speaker 6: because she's.
- 20:19Speaker 7: Not or it's the thing.
- 20:21Speaker 11: It's like somebody in that feud's got to get booed, right,
- 20:24Speaker 11: you know, somebody that somebody No, But that's how the
- 20:28Speaker 11: w w A universe takes it, because there's gotta be
- 20:30Speaker 11: a bad guy, right like we oh.
- 20:32Speaker 7: There does it doesn't we don't.
- 20:36Speaker 6: Right now, the fans are doing whatever the hell they
- 20:38Speaker 6: want to regulate is a clear heel right now. They
- 20:43Speaker 6: cheered her on Monday, Seth Rollins clear heel right now,
- 20:47Speaker 6: they cheered him on Monday, right And it feels like
- 20:54Speaker 6: right now the fans are more in a we're gonna
- 20:57Speaker 6: do what we want phase with just because And I'm
- 21:03Speaker 6: not saying that fans always have to follow, And I'm
- 21:04Speaker 6: damnsere not saying that the fans have to follow the
- 21:06Speaker 6: storyline at w W gets them and you know, these
- 21:09Speaker 6: are the clear define good guys, you cheer them, these
- 21:11Speaker 6: are the clear define bad guys, and you boo them.
- 21:13Speaker 6: I'm not saying that either. But if somebody is clearly
- 21:19Speaker 6: doing something heelish and you're choosing like now, we like
- 21:24Speaker 6: them anyway, we're gonna cheer it, or somebody has legitimate,
- 21:29Speaker 6: a legitimate gripe and you're just like, nah, screw you,
- 21:31Speaker 6: boo you. That's what I take issues to it, cause
- 21:34Speaker 6: it's like, Okay, it's one thing if you're if this was,
- 21:37Speaker 6: like like I said, you're getting bored with the person
- 21:41Speaker 6: or the character. I didn't feel like that was necessarily
- 21:43Speaker 6: the case with Beyond. With Bianca, they was cheering her
- 21:47Speaker 6: like crazy when she was in the tag team with Jade.
- 21:50Speaker 6: They cheered her after uh she won an elimination chamber.
- 21:54Speaker 5: It just seemed like here came Ria and they was like,
- 21:58Speaker 5: oh Rie's.
- 21:58Speaker 6: A back involved, Well, screw you, Benca, even though she had,
- 22:01Speaker 6: like I said, the legitimate gripe, and Ria was doing
- 22:05Speaker 6: the things that would by any other person be seen
- 22:08Speaker 6: as heelish, like flip the table or or flip the cards.
- 22:14Speaker 6: Imagine if Bianca had done the exact same thing that
- 22:19Speaker 6: Ria did going into wrestle media, like flip them. I say,
- 22:24Speaker 6: Bianca was the champion and she had lost the ill
- 22:26Speaker 6: because she got distracted by Riha, and then she showed
- 22:29Speaker 6: up and inserted herself and just threw her name on
- 22:32Speaker 6: the contract. They be booing Bianca like she was dominant
- 22:36Speaker 6: my stereo.
- 22:38Speaker 9: Who's getting cheered down? Huh who's getting cheered down?
- 22:45Speaker 6: Yes, saying no, yeah, I think he's still he's still
- 22:47Speaker 6: he's still very much doing heelship, but he still gets
- 22:49Speaker 6: some booze though, even though they popped like crazy for
- 22:52Speaker 6: him at wrestle Media. But like I said, if Bianca
- 22:55Speaker 6: would have done the exact same thing that Ria was
- 22:57Speaker 6: doing and going in the wrestlemedia, they had a boot
- 22:59Speaker 6: delivering shit out of it, Biaka. But because Rio was
- 23:02Speaker 6: doing it, we're gonna scheer it. That I take issue with.
- 23:06Speaker 6: That's where that's where I take issue with the fans.
- 23:09Speaker 9: What a.
- 23:11Speaker 11: What a lengthy like first match to like fourteen minutes
- 23:14Speaker 11: twenty five seconds that's and a hell of a fucking
- 23:17Speaker 11: match to open the show, you know what I mean?
- 23:20Speaker 7: That was awesome. I I really enjoyed that match definitely.
- 23:26Speaker 9: Uh.
- 23:27Speaker 11: You know what though, like for us last year, like
- 23:30Speaker 11: going into WrestleMania Night two, I was pretty exhausted already,
- 23:35Speaker 11: but I was still hyped. I was like tired, but
- 23:38Speaker 11: I was like my body was tired, but I was.
- 23:40Speaker 7: Still like hyped. I wasn't like mentally drained or anything.
- 23:42Speaker 7: I don't know how you guys felt I was.
- 23:45Speaker 11: I mean this crowd, I don't know how many they
- 23:48Speaker 11: said was in this current crowdy? Do you guys have
- 23:52Speaker 11: maybe have a number, but I think it might have
- 23:54Speaker 11: been like sixty allegedly.
- 23:59Speaker 7: Yeah, like it's there's a last of celebrities there.
- 24:05Speaker 11: Flavor. Flavor was there, guys. I I don't think he
- 24:10Speaker 11: was on our card.
- 24:11Speaker 7: For guys that might be there.
- 24:15Speaker 8: The only people, the only people who I knew were
- 24:18Speaker 8: Flavor Flavor, Rick Rubin, everybody else's like who to see.
- 24:23Speaker 7: How they had like the VIP section up up near
- 24:26Speaker 7: the ramps, like the.
- 24:29Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah that was pretty cool.
- 24:31Speaker 9: Those were like sponsorship giveaways.
- 24:34Speaker 6: Yeah, talk about the ones who were above the entrance
- 24:38Speaker 6: way on the ramp or something.
- 24:39Speaker 11: Yeah, speaking of fucking sponsorship, talk about like six logos.
- 24:46Speaker 7: I was looking at a photo that was showing, like,
- 24:49Speaker 7: you know, the WrestleMania back when Vince was still running it,
- 24:52Speaker 7: and there's nothing, and then you had Prime last year,
- 24:56Speaker 7: and now you have about six logos.
- 24:58Speaker 11: It's like, oh my god, Like where does it end?
- 25:01Speaker 11: And I remember when the multiple logos started.
- 25:05Speaker 7: It was at War Games because that's when they had
- 25:08Speaker 7: two rings and they were able to double down on
- 25:11Speaker 7: the sponsorship and then that was it. Now we see
- 25:15Speaker 7: it all the time.
- 25:16Speaker 6: Yeah, But I will say this, it's what it is
- 25:21Speaker 6: an annoying. It's annoying if you pay attention to it.
- 25:26Speaker 6: But realistically, if most of the show were you really
- 25:31Speaker 6: looking at the logos, No, you were looking at the
- 25:34Speaker 6: action in the ring or whatever camera angles that they
- 25:37Speaker 6: were giving you. It's really one of those things that
- 25:40Speaker 6: you're only aware of it if you're looking for it
- 25:43Speaker 6: or somebody points it out right.
- 25:46Speaker 11: But how do you guys feel about SmackDown having just
- 25:49Speaker 11: the plain old blue ring the apron? Do you guys
- 25:52Speaker 11: think you guys like the cool blue ring?
- 25:55Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 25:56Speaker 5: I think it's cool.
- 25:57Speaker 9: I like the differential, like the the shows have different looks.
- 26:01Speaker 5: Again, yeah, exactly, kind of like that.
- 26:05Speaker 7: Like that.
- 26:06Speaker 9: I like black ring on Raw though very much.
- 26:08Speaker 8: It's kind of gross like it because it gets real dirty,
- 26:12Speaker 8: real fast.
- 26:13Speaker 6: I thought I only used that, you know what. I
- 26:16Speaker 6: hadn't even noticed that they used a black ring all Raw.
- 26:18Speaker 6: I thought that it was only for specific segments. I
- 26:20Speaker 6: hadn't paid that much. Again, goes the show. I ain't
- 26:23Speaker 6: paying attention to the ring, Max, I had to noticed
- 26:25Speaker 6: it was black.
- 26:27Speaker 7: Yeah cool. I'm ready to move on to the next match.
- 26:32Speaker 6: Yeah. The next match was the sin City Street Fight
- 26:37Speaker 6: between Drew McIntyre and Damian Priest, which was an okay match.
- 26:43Speaker 6: It was honestly fairly paid by numbers, just two big
- 26:48Speaker 6: dudes hitting all their power moves and brutality moves on
- 26:52Speaker 6: him with which winds up with Drew McIntyre coming out
- 26:56Speaker 6: with the when after hitting a claymore against Damien Priest's
- 27:01Speaker 6: head against the chair in the corner. Again, not much
- 27:06Speaker 6: to say about this match. It wasn't bad by any means,
- 27:09Speaker 6: but there was nothing special about it either. It was yeah,
- 27:14Speaker 6: one of the mill Street fight. Yeah.
- 27:15Speaker 8: For me, it was more of what it wasn't than
- 27:17Speaker 8: what it was. It was fine, it was serviceable. Whatever
- 27:22Speaker 8: Drew should have gone over, he did go over. I
- 27:25Speaker 8: think he's in line for a fucking big year. But uh,
- 27:29Speaker 8: I was hoping for something more like the back lot
- 27:33Speaker 8: Hollywood brawl or whatever that Roddy Piper and gold Dust Tad.
- 27:38Speaker 7: Oh dude, I love that it.
- 27:41Speaker 9: Over something like that.
- 27:42Speaker 8: Like I kind of was hoping they'd be fighting in
- 27:44Speaker 8: a casino, like, you know what, even even if it's
- 27:47Speaker 8: not necessarily all in front of the live crowd, you know,
- 27:50Speaker 8: Like I thought it would be more fun like that
- 27:53Speaker 8: kind of you know, So.
- 27:55Speaker 9: I was disappointed.
- 27:56Speaker 8: It was one of those situations where I said, my
- 27:59Speaker 8: sakes too high and it couldn't possibly be lived up to.
- 28:04Speaker 9: Uh. But uh, yeah it was.
- 28:06Speaker 8: It was a fine match, certainly, but I just it
- 28:09Speaker 8: could have been so much more, I feel like.
- 28:11Speaker 6: And I agree. I don't know if it's the logistics
- 28:13Speaker 6: behind it that makes it that prevents them from trying
- 28:17Speaker 6: to pull that stuff off, or if they wanted this
- 28:18Speaker 6: to feel like a more serious match, which is why
- 28:21Speaker 6: they kept it in and around the ring as opposed
- 28:24Speaker 6: to going through the casino or the streets or something
- 28:27Speaker 6: like that. But yeah, I agree with you. They they
- 28:30Speaker 6: could have been a little bit more creative.
- 28:32Speaker 9: Yeah, or something. I don't know, I think they. I
- 28:36Speaker 9: just felt like they could have had so much more
- 28:37Speaker 9: fun with this than it did.
- 28:39Speaker 8: Yeah, and this is largely at WrestleMania that was kind
- 28:42Speaker 8: of devoid of fun outside of the.
- 28:47Speaker 9: El Gringo.
- 28:49Speaker 6: They could have fall above the entrance way, those fans
- 28:52Speaker 6: that were paying for those I guess those were premium
- 28:55Speaker 6: seats or whatever. Above the rampway.
- 28:57Speaker 8: Oh no, those are all like sponsorship people like so
- 29:01Speaker 8: you know, Uh, they made prime executives and expended the
- 29:06Speaker 8: executives and.
- 29:07Speaker 6: They could have falled around them.
- 29:10Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 29:12Speaker 8: But something, Yeah, I would saying kind of gone off
- 29:17Speaker 8: campus a little more.
- 29:19Speaker 9: Yeah, that makes sense.
- 29:21Speaker 11: DNA, you guys play Doom the Dark Age is That's
- 29:24Speaker 11: what I guess Drue McEntyre was cosplaying as he.
- 29:27Speaker 9: Looked pissed off. I'll tell you that he did not.
- 29:31Speaker 7: Maybe he didn't want to wear. He did look like
- 29:33Speaker 7: he was struggling to get in the ring. Yeah, he
- 29:38Speaker 7: looks uncomfortable.
- 29:39Speaker 9: I know what the hell it was.
- 29:41Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe he just was like, I can't believe I
- 29:43Speaker 7: got to wear this ship because of our sponsor.
- 29:45Speaker 6: You know.
- 29:45Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I'm assuming I don't. I wouldn't, you know,
- 29:49Speaker 11: somebody had to probably wear.
- 29:51Speaker 7: It's like one of your wrestlers has to wear a
- 29:53Speaker 7: cosplay of like this video game.
- 29:56Speaker 6: Right, maybe we'll find out in WWE Uncut or whatever
- 30:00Speaker 6: the hell that show.
- 30:00Speaker 7: Is going to be called unreal or whatever something basically
- 30:06Speaker 7: where k Fave is absolutely.
- 30:08Speaker 6: Dead KA died with social media, doll.
- 30:13Speaker 11: I gotta agree with you, man, Like I was not
- 30:15Speaker 11: maybe so much like going all into like different locations,
- 30:18Speaker 11: Like I agree with the stage, but like how many
- 30:21Speaker 11: like matches on like SmackDown. Did we have of like
- 30:25Speaker 11: a Christmas Eve brawl where they would set up like
- 30:28Speaker 11: Christmas presents everywhere?
- 30:30Speaker 7: Ye?
- 30:31Speaker 9: Like, you know they had.
- 30:36Speaker 11: What was Seamus's group of guys what were they called
- 30:39Speaker 11: the I can't remember, Yeah, there were they had some sort.
- 30:44Speaker 8: Of I think we have old fashioned Donny Brook matches.
- 30:48Speaker 7: Yeah, Like they were so quick to bring out gimme
- 30:51Speaker 7: the ship.
- 30:52Speaker 9: Remember the Viking Raiders had the Viking match when.
- 30:54Speaker 6: They had yeah, when they had the little half ship
- 30:59Speaker 6: on the rink. Yeah, like, and that was a match
- 31:02Speaker 6: that we thought was gonna be stupid as hell. When
- 31:03Speaker 6: I saw that they wound up cooking.
- 31:06Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it's it's crazy.
- 31:08Speaker 11: I thought, you know, with all the gimmicky kind of ship,
- 31:11Speaker 11: maybe they would have had maybe like a slot machine
- 31:14Speaker 11: they would have rolled down there, or you know what.
- 31:16Speaker 8: I mean, like have some sort of Las Vegas type
- 31:19Speaker 8: like you could have done some gimmick where like he
- 31:21Speaker 8: stuck his head in the machine and then get the jack.
- 31:24Speaker 7: But yeah yeah, or like yeah he has there's like
- 31:28Speaker 7: a poker table and chips go flying everywhere, like you.
- 31:32Speaker 11: Know, absolutely Doyle, Like I'm with you all the way. Yeah,
- 31:36Speaker 11: so yeah, Doyle did. Drew didn't look too happy with
- 31:40Speaker 11: his interest. You know, he got the cool flames and whatnot.
- 31:42Speaker 11: You know, Damian Priest got the got a live band
- 31:46Speaker 11: playing for him.
- 31:47Speaker 7: He's got the uh the by Curious Vampire outfit going.
- 31:51Speaker 8: And you know, I can't believe that two guys had
- 31:54Speaker 8: live music and and it was like things both things.
- 31:58Speaker 9: I was actively like a fan. It's usually like who
- 32:02Speaker 9: the fuck is that?
- 32:04Speaker 7: I know, Yeah, it's uh, I really like it. I
- 32:07Speaker 7: mean then when the wrestlers get their music played live,
- 32:12Speaker 7: I mean it's not every day somebody has the opportunity
- 32:14Speaker 7: to have that done. But I mean we had it
- 32:16Speaker 7: last year. I think we Hadria get played in last year.
- 32:19Speaker 6: Yeah, she got played in by the people who actually
- 32:21Speaker 6: recorded her.
- 32:21Speaker 7: So yeah, and I guess you can kind of say
- 32:24Speaker 7: Roman reigns.
- 32:25Speaker 8: Right with the first Nackamara a couple of years ago
- 32:30Speaker 8: as but.
- 32:32Speaker 7: But yeah, instead Doyle, we got, uh, we got the
- 32:36Speaker 7: steel steps, which there was a lot of brutality done
- 32:40Speaker 7: with the steel steps. Uh.
- 32:42Speaker 11: You know, a lot of the moves that Drew was doing,
- 32:44Speaker 11: it looked like he was just hurting himself more than
- 32:46Speaker 11: he was hurting Damien.
- 32:47Speaker 7: Uh, because you know some of those suplexes and ship
- 32:50Speaker 7: he was going on the steps like oh god, man,
- 32:53Speaker 7: like my bag Hers is watching you do it, like you're.
- 32:57Speaker 9: Hitting the steps. The guy's not even really touching them. Yeah.
- 33:00Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, we got we got our we got
- 33:05Speaker 7: ourselves some tables, you know, I did, I did like
- 33:09Speaker 7: the kind of big spot at the end with you know,
- 33:12Speaker 7: Damien storing the old school taker, you know, walking on
- 33:15Speaker 7: the ropes, which I I haven't seen done in a bit,
- 33:18Speaker 7: which was nice to kind of revisit. But as soon
- 33:20Speaker 7: as he fucking did it, as soon as he did,
- 33:23Speaker 7: I go push them, push them, push and push him
- 33:25Speaker 7: right away, dude, just like just you know, yeah right,
- 33:31Speaker 7: he just let his intrusive thoughts to take over and
- 33:33Speaker 7: he just right through anyone through cleaning. I went through nice. Uh.
- 33:37Speaker 11: And then he finished with that that claim war with
- 33:40Speaker 11: that chair in the in the corner.
- 33:42Speaker 7: They did it so fast and it was so loud
- 33:44Speaker 7: that did. I think they did a pretty good spot
- 33:47Speaker 7: with that. And you know, I don't I don't know
- 33:49Speaker 7: where Damien goes with this loss now, you know, like
- 33:51Speaker 7: the man's lost his world title, he's lost Judgment Day,
- 33:55Speaker 7: he's lost his rematches, he's lost his WrestleMania match against.
- 33:58Speaker 5: Drew the question.
- 34:00Speaker 6: And that's the reason why I said he needed to
- 34:02Speaker 6: win this match, because now that very question is there.
- 34:06Speaker 5: I don't know where Damien goes from here.
- 34:09Speaker 6: Honestly, I think I think Drew claymore than back to
- 34:11Speaker 6: the mid card.
- 34:12Speaker 7: Oh well, yes, unfortunately.
- 34:14Speaker 11: But do you know who be the good person to
- 34:17Speaker 11: go after that intercontinental title?
- 34:21Speaker 7: Maybe a former enemy Damien. There you go.
- 34:26Speaker 6: Yeah, back to the mid car for a former world champion,
- 34:28Speaker 6: which is unfortunate because again I like Damian Priest. I
- 34:32Speaker 6: think he's probably going to until he gets some momentum
- 34:35Speaker 6: more of the fans behind him again.
- 34:37Speaker 5: He's gonna be.
- 34:39Speaker 6: Like what Bobby Lashley was before he left WWE. He's
- 34:44Speaker 6: gonna be that person that they every time they need
- 34:47Speaker 6: a tournament or something, he's gonna be in that match
- 34:50Speaker 6: because he's a name and he's a former champion, and
- 34:53Speaker 6: they're gonna say that ad nauseam.
- 34:55Speaker 5: He's a former champion, He's got all this, He's got
- 34:58Speaker 5: a shot.
- 34:58Speaker 6: No, he doesn't. He's gonna be in those matches or
- 35:02Speaker 6: in those tournaments that he'll never win until again, I said,
- 35:09Speaker 6: at some point he either gets some momentum behind him
- 35:12Speaker 6: or the fans get behind him again, or something like
- 35:14Speaker 6: that that push him back up to being a champion. Yeah,
- 35:18Speaker 6: he might see it. He may see an IC title
- 35:21Speaker 6: win here or there, But.
- 35:26Speaker 5: I just don't.
- 35:27Speaker 6: I don't know that Damien can get back into the
- 35:29Speaker 6: world title pitcher anytime soon.
- 35:32Speaker 8: I could see I mean it's not maybe as soon
- 35:36Speaker 8: as this next next go round, but I could see
- 35:39Speaker 8: him as a rumble winner or an elimination chamber winner.
- 35:42Speaker 9: Uh, one of these.
- 35:44Speaker 6: Days, exactly one of these days. You're not even saying
- 35:52Speaker 6: that with confidence.
- 35:53Speaker 8: I don't know that it would be impossible or even
- 35:58Speaker 8: really that hard.
- 35:58Speaker 9: To get him back in the middle of picture. Apparently,
- 36:01Speaker 9: you know, just give him a couple of big wins
- 36:03Speaker 9: over people and then bangs right back there. So I
- 36:07Speaker 9: don't know. I don't know his future. I don't know.
- 36:11Speaker 8: I like the idea of him going after Don but
- 36:13Speaker 8: dom I feel like God would have to beat.
- 36:15Speaker 9: Him right, so that doesn't help him very much.
- 36:19Speaker 6: Right, Like I said, I'm not saying his career is
- 36:21Speaker 6: over by any means. I just without the momentum behind him,
- 36:26Speaker 6: and it's not. And I don't think it's just I
- 36:29Speaker 6: don't think they can just book him back into a championship.
- 36:32Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't think they're gonna.
- 36:34Speaker 6: I don't see them pulling that unless there's some sort
- 36:37Speaker 6: of momentum behind him and some sort of like his
- 36:41Speaker 6: pops aren't through the roof. He gets cheers, but he
- 36:44Speaker 6: doesn't get pops through the roof. There's really nothing behind
- 36:48Speaker 6: him right now to give creative, I think, motivation to
- 36:53Speaker 6: put a belt on him. They'll put him in contention
- 36:57Speaker 6: because he's a because he's popular with the fans, so
- 37:00Speaker 6: he'll be a contention.
- 37:02Speaker 8: He just have his buddy Bad Bunny come back, get
- 37:06Speaker 8: involved in the story.
- 37:09Speaker 6: Yeah said, And like, like you mentioned, if he was
- 37:12Speaker 6: to be put up against Dom right now, they would
- 37:14Speaker 6: probably book Dom to win because Dom has the momentum.
- 37:18Speaker 9: Yeah, he just got the titles, all.
- 37:21Speaker 5: Right, he just got he just got the belt.
- 37:23Speaker 8: I wanted to see him have some have a I
- 37:26Speaker 8: mean not as long as but I want him to
- 37:28Speaker 8: have like a Honkey talk Man esque run where he's
- 37:31Speaker 8: just fluking victory's left and right, like.
- 37:34Speaker 7: He just wiggles his way out of fucking pins and ship. Yeah, yeah,
- 37:40Speaker 7: that would be funny, funny.
- 37:45Speaker 6: So well, speaking of Dom, that leads us to the
- 37:49Speaker 6: next match, which was Dominic was bron breaker out of
- 37:54Speaker 6: the Continental Champion defending in a fatal four way against
- 37:58Speaker 6: Finn Balor Penza and Dominique Mysterio himself, which I guess this. Yeah,
- 38:07Speaker 6: this was probably the one shock of the night, I've
- 38:09Speaker 6: really the whole papel which in the form of Dominic
- 38:14Speaker 6: Mysterio winning. I don't know did any of us call
- 38:19Speaker 6: for that in the pre show? I did, I thought
- 38:25Speaker 6: I thought we did. I don't know if I did
- 38:27Speaker 6: or not.
- 38:28Speaker 11: But yeah, we brought up we were thinking like not
- 38:31Speaker 11: I think mean Doyle were discussing like not if he.
- 38:33Speaker 7: Pins you know, Braun or Penta, it's if he pins Finn,
- 38:39Speaker 7: and he fucking went down exactly like that, you know,
- 38:43Speaker 7: And what a great way to protect Braun, you know
- 38:46Speaker 7: from it.
- 38:46Speaker 11: What a great like show for Penta for his first WrestleMania. Uh,
- 38:51Speaker 11: you know, I'm liking the sky and more and more
- 38:53Speaker 11: every week. But yeah, and and the the drama it could.
- 39:00Speaker 7: Cause or will cause.
- 39:03Speaker 11: They say it's not causing, but I called blasphemy. I
- 39:06Speaker 11: think something is a cooking. You took that l at wrestlming.
- 39:10Speaker 11: You're just gonna be cool about it, but.
- 39:12Speaker 7: I did, like, you know, in the middle of the match,
- 39:14Speaker 7: they were working.
- 39:15Speaker 11: Together and uh forbid, and then dom Te's like he
- 39:19Speaker 11: was gonna go after Finn, and then the crowd kind
- 39:21Speaker 11: of wrapped up for it, you know, and then you
- 39:24Speaker 11: know when he finally did turn. The crowd loved it,
- 39:26Speaker 11: you know, they finally I mean, you know it's a.
- 39:29Speaker 6: Match and caught him.
- 39:34Speaker 7: I know the grounds for that they're getting.
- 39:37Speaker 6: I think that was fun when he turned and went
- 39:39Speaker 6: for that ship. Finn called him and then stomped his
- 39:41Speaker 6: ass out for it.
- 39:42Speaker 7: And Doyle, you brought up last episode.
- 39:46Speaker 11: Everybody's got to have a mask now, right, everybody's.
- 39:50Speaker 8: Everybody come out with a mask and immediately take it off,
- 39:53Speaker 8: exactly like Finn.
- 39:54Speaker 7: Finn, I don't even had him. It looked like he
- 39:56Speaker 7: just had like a bag over.
- 39:57Speaker 9: His head head. Yeah, and then that was funny. Yeah
- 40:03Speaker 9: you could get it.
- 40:03Speaker 7: Off because I thought the mask pretty cool. But then yeah,
- 40:07Speaker 7: he couldn't get it off his his gip massing he
- 40:09Speaker 7: borrowed from carrying cross he could, he couldn't get off
- 40:11Speaker 7: his head.
- 40:13Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought bron Breaker had no shot.
- 40:22Speaker 9: I thought the other guy other three did.
- 40:25Speaker 8: Uh uh, And boy was I right about bron Breaker
- 40:29Speaker 8: getting leveled up because the next night raw.
- 40:34Speaker 9: But uh yeah, I mean dom, I don't think they.
- 40:38Speaker 8: Expected the face pop he got for that, uh, because
- 40:42Speaker 8: he kind of celebrated and then he kind of went
- 40:44Speaker 8: he was halfway up the ramp.
- 40:45Speaker 9: And one of the one of the things.
- 40:47Speaker 8: I really like about social media is when you get
- 40:49Speaker 8: to see the alternate angles and stuff, because because there's
- 40:53Speaker 8: an alternate angle with the camera guys in the picture
- 40:55Speaker 8: and the camera guys like.
- 40:57Speaker 9: Go back in the ringing idiot like Don goes back
- 41:01Speaker 9: and like soaks it up even more.
- 41:03Speaker 8: Uh yeah, I mean I obviously that Donald was planning
- 41:06Speaker 8: to win. I don't think he was planning to be
- 41:08Speaker 8: as over as he was, So I think that was
- 41:11Speaker 8: kind of a fun surprised to see kind of play
- 41:14Speaker 8: out live.
- 41:15Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, what a fun match.
- 41:19Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely it was a fun match and like
- 41:23Speaker 6: a great moment of seeing the fans absolutely just pop
- 41:26Speaker 6: huge for Dominic Mysterio. It'll be interesting to see where
- 41:29Speaker 6: they go with this because obviously they've been teasing for
- 41:33Speaker 6: the longest time a Judgment Day break up. It's just
- 41:37Speaker 6: a matter of when they decide to finally pull the
- 41:39Speaker 6: trigger on it. And Dominic Mystereo, despite the huge face
- 41:43Speaker 6: pop he's gotten, it's still one hundred acting like a heel. Yeah,
- 41:48Speaker 6: being completely arrogant as fuck about it and talking shit
- 41:53Speaker 6: he was There was a video clip of him trolling
- 41:56Speaker 6: Scott Steiner backstage with.
- 41:59Speaker 7: That was fucking oh my god to see him.
- 42:04Speaker 6: And then yeah, and then he was in like the
- 42:06Speaker 6: post show. They interviewed him in the post show, and
- 42:08Speaker 6: he was completely already proclaiming himself the greatest and the
- 42:11Speaker 6: continental champion of all time or the greatest champion of
- 42:13Speaker 6: all time. So he's completely healing it up, and the
- 42:17Speaker 6: fans are responding in kind to him healing it up
- 42:20Speaker 6: by still booing him after initially cheering for him when
- 42:23Speaker 6: his music hit. So he still knows how to absolutely
- 42:28Speaker 6: be a heal if they decide to keep him that way,
- 42:31Speaker 6: But if they want to pull the trigger and switch
- 42:34Speaker 6: him over to be a babyface again, he can go
- 42:37Speaker 6: either way at this point, and I'm pretty sure they're
- 42:40Speaker 6: probably whenever they do pull the trigger on this Judgment
- 42:43Speaker 6: Day breakup, he'll probably fall on the babyface side because
- 42:47Speaker 6: Finn Balach just has no support behind him, like nobody's
- 42:53Speaker 6: cheering for him and JD McDonough or any of that.
- 42:56Speaker 6: So and Finz probably does better work as a heal
- 42:59Speaker 6: any damn.
- 43:02Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 43:05Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 43:06Speaker 9: The only the only good thing about fit in his
- 43:07Speaker 9: baby face.
- 43:08Speaker 8: He had that really fun entrance but they sind change
- 43:11Speaker 8: his music several times.
- 43:13Speaker 7: Yeah, I just like that.
- 43:16Speaker 8: Maybe they maybe they do that thing when they go
- 43:18Speaker 8: back to the old music if he turned it. But
- 43:20Speaker 8: I I think if anybody's gonna turn, it's gonna be
- 43:23Speaker 8: don baby Face, which I didn't think they'd ever been
- 43:26Speaker 8: able to do without uh involving Ray, you know, some
- 43:30Speaker 8: kind of reconciliation with Ray mysteriouh, So that'll be interesting
- 43:34Speaker 8: to see.
- 43:38Speaker 9: Yeah, cool, Oh we're gonna run in.
- 43:43Speaker 6: I'm here what this guy or what we were talking about?
- 43:53Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you were quite the same episode Dominique just
- 43:57Speaker 2: coming in here. You know, like I always said, when
- 44:01Speaker 2: Dominique came in, like they try to push him as
- 44:03Speaker 2: a baby face. It wasn't working. Everyone's used to the
- 44:07Speaker 2: history of Dominic Mysterial kind of secretly being written as
- 44:12Speaker 2: Eddie Guerrero's son, and that's pretty much how the audience
- 44:16Speaker 2: wanted to expect him like all this, like you know,
- 44:18Speaker 2: smart marks and have been following the product from like
- 44:21Speaker 2: you know, I guess in the eighties, nineties, two thousands, whatever,
- 44:26Speaker 2: So it was just natural for them to go in
- 44:29Speaker 2: that progression. He had to separate himself from his dad.
- 44:31Speaker 2: And they had to go that way. He had to
- 44:34Speaker 2: do some time, He had to catch a little bit
- 44:37Speaker 2: of sugar from down under. And here we are thirty dom,
- 44:43Speaker 2: a man.
- 44:43Speaker 7: Who could turn heel and then turn heel on being here.
- 44:47Speaker 2: For hell, god fucking love it only to be so
- 44:51Speaker 2: heel that everybody loves him.
- 44:53Speaker 11: Now I know, now he's reached that point like that needle,
- 44:56Speaker 11: you know, like that that heel faced needles all the
- 44:59Speaker 11: way down is basically it's it's going full circle, like
- 45:03Speaker 11: he's coming back as a face.
- 45:05Speaker 7: Not that the wrestlers can do.
- 45:06Speaker 5: That, Damn.
- 45:09Speaker 6: I can see him being one of the people that
- 45:12Speaker 6: fans boo out of love like that, like in a
- 45:19Speaker 6: weird twist where like he completely acts like a dick
- 45:22Speaker 6: and fans boo the hell out of him during all
- 45:24Speaker 6: his promos, but the second the bell rings there behind.
- 45:28Speaker 2: Him, so kind of like m j F like he's
- 45:31Speaker 2: ours comeback type of thing, Ours come bag. He's thirty dime.
- 45:38Speaker 2: He's a dirty, you know, douche bag, but he's our douchebag.
- 45:42Speaker 6: Right like people like fans are bulling them, booing him
- 45:45Speaker 6: with smiles on their faces. Yeah, kick that guy's ass forst.
- 45:51Speaker 9: Doll really effective heal.
- 45:53Speaker 8: You'll you'll hate him, and then you'll start to love
- 45:55Speaker 8: to hate him, and then you'll just love him.
- 45:58Speaker 9: That's the that's the cycle of a really good hell.
- 46:00Speaker 8: And it's hard to keep people here, keep them like
- 46:05Speaker 8: hard to be popular and the heel at the same time,
- 46:07Speaker 8: you know.
- 46:08Speaker 6: Right, it happens hypothetically speak right, just just hypothetically speaking
- 46:13Speaker 6: right now, Dominic Mysterio and John Cena and the ring,
- 46:17Speaker 6: who are the fans cheering.
- 46:21Speaker 5: Right now?
- 46:22Speaker 2: Like if you have seen them, I would see I
- 46:25Speaker 2: would say dirty.
- 46:26Speaker 5: Don I think I'm with you, Carl.
- 46:29Speaker 6: I think the fans would cheer for Dom to kick
- 46:32Speaker 6: seen his ass experiment like seeing obviously seen them would
- 46:40Speaker 6: rip him the shreds on the mic, and I think
- 46:42Speaker 6: that would make the fans be like, yo, fuck him up, Dom,
- 46:45Speaker 6: fuck him up. And if Dom just swung on scene
- 46:49Speaker 6: that the fans would just pop huge if he just
- 46:51Speaker 6: started going to town and just beating seen his ass? Yeah,
- 46:59Speaker 6: like if they if they, if they want to test
- 47:00Speaker 6: the water, like you know what. That's why I can't
- 47:03Speaker 6: be in creative because I booked that fucking match. I've
- 47:07Speaker 6: booked that match in a heartbeat, just to test the wars.
- 47:09Speaker 6: Just a spontaneous Monday night raw match. Let's seem to
- 47:13Speaker 6: be running people down the shit you think it's gonna
- 47:14Speaker 6: be ording of somebody going out there. Nah, fucking Dominic
- 47:18Speaker 6: Mysterio come out there and interrupt John Cena talk shit
- 47:22Speaker 6: about how he's the best champion on n WWE right
- 47:25Speaker 6: now with the IC unless I'll see to be like
- 47:28Speaker 6: you want to talk shit, kid, put your money where
- 47:31Speaker 6: your mouth is. Me and you one on one, no
- 47:35Speaker 6: belts on the line, just to see who's the better champion.
- 47:38Speaker 5: Let that ship made a bit raw. See what the
- 47:40Speaker 5: fans do.
- 47:41Speaker 6: I've bet the fans would go ape shit for fucking
- 47:44Speaker 6: Dominic Mysterio Champion versus champion, no title on the line,
- 47:50Speaker 6: John Cena versus Dominant Mysterio.
- 47:53Speaker 5: Make it happen.
- 47:55Speaker 6: That would be fun, And that's what's missing WWE right now.
- 48:03Speaker 6: Random spontaneous fun.
- 48:05Speaker 11: But we get it in this next match, and I
- 48:10Speaker 11: have a SoundBite for it, but you lead me in.
- 48:16Speaker 6: Well, next, what was Randy Orton coming to the ring
- 48:21Speaker 6: because he ain't had shit else to do on WrestleMania,
- 48:24Speaker 6: so figured he'd come out to the ring and say
- 48:28Speaker 6: who wants some, because whoever wants some when they comes
- 48:32Speaker 6: to the ring, they gonna catch The three most Dangerous
- 48:35Speaker 6: words are the three most Dangerous letters and all of
- 48:38Speaker 6: wrestling r KO, which led to the camera slowly going
- 48:42Speaker 6: up to the ramp doors opening and then the revelation
- 48:48Speaker 6: of Randy Orton's opponents.
- 49:21Speaker 5: Man, I love that moment for him.
- 49:25Speaker 11: Dude, I popped because I did not. I'm standing because
- 49:28Speaker 11: I had a I had this out in my backyard
- 49:31Speaker 11: and I'm standing there. I'm just like, there's it's gotta
- 49:34Speaker 11: be like you know, I'm just thinking of an average
- 49:36Speaker 11: wrestler that's on a roster already. You know, I never
- 49:41Speaker 11: thought in a million years like they would have the
- 49:44Speaker 11: teenage And we discussed this before, like.
- 49:47Speaker 6: Like that, there's no way they're gonna book a t NA,
- 49:51Speaker 6: a non w W talent on this show. The proved
- 49:55Speaker 6: me wrong.
- 49:55Speaker 5: To the motherfucker.
- 49:56Speaker 11: What a crowd to do it with, Like you know,
- 49:59Speaker 11: it's Joe Hendry has called on so much that like,
- 50:02Speaker 11: you know, the crowd was just so into it.
- 50:04Speaker 7: I liked.
- 50:05Speaker 11: I loved Orton's reaction. Orton's just looking around the ring, look,
- 50:08Speaker 11: just looking at the crowd, just like he just can't
- 50:11Speaker 11: believe this, you know, like how popular this guy is,
- 50:15Speaker 11: and you know a lot of people were I saw
- 50:19Speaker 11: some people like, oh, I can't believe he lost in
- 50:21Speaker 11: such a short amount of time.
- 50:22Speaker 7: But I mean, he's just here's what I got. I
- 50:25Speaker 7: got this from Joe Hendry. Well. Quote from Joe Henry.
- 50:28Speaker 11: Says, people are saying Joe Henry lost quickly, John Cena
- 50:32Speaker 11: lost quickly in Wrestlmingia. It's about creating moments at the
- 50:35Speaker 11: end when Randy does my spin and then does his pose.
- 50:40Speaker 7: People who know what wrestling is. No, that was Randy
- 50:43Speaker 7: giving me his seal of approval.
- 50:47Speaker 6: Joe Hendry Gibson. It wasn't about the fact that, oh,
- 50:51Speaker 6: the TN champion got squashed or whatever, first of All
- 50:55Speaker 6: teenage champion. When's the last time a non wa WE
- 51:00Speaker 6: champion was on WrestleMania, And I mean by like somebody
- 51:04Speaker 6: who was a champion in another organization. Yeah, I don't
- 51:07Speaker 6: know if that's ever. I feel like it may have
- 51:10Speaker 6: happened before WrestleMania.
- 51:15Speaker 9: There have been people from other promotions.
- 51:17Speaker 8: When I'm struggling to remember a champion from another promotion,
- 51:22Speaker 8: maybe our WrestleMania expert knows off the top of his head.
- 51:27Speaker 7: Yeah, just say that you revisited the Manias, you would know.
- 51:33Speaker 2: So, yeah, yes, I have revisited the Manias. And if
- 51:37Speaker 2: we are not counting the ECW merger but not merger
- 51:42Speaker 2: when they invaded, then no, there's been no whether like
- 51:46Speaker 2: champion coming out with their belt out on a WrestleMania stage.
- 51:52Speaker 5: There it is.
- 51:53Speaker 6: So this is unprecedented and for him to get that moment,
- 51:57Speaker 6: and furthermore, he was handpicked by Randy Orton. Yeah, Jordan
- 52:03Speaker 6: an option or a list of people to face, he
- 52:05Speaker 6: chose Joe Hendry. He chose to give Joe Hendry this moment,
- 52:10Speaker 6: He chose to have this match with him, and just
- 52:13Speaker 6: and if you want to speak from a k FAPE standpoint, yes,
- 52:16Speaker 6: Joe Hendry is the TNA champion, But there's levels to
- 52:20Speaker 6: this shit. In no way, shape or form was TNA
- 52:26Speaker 6: champion Joe Hendry supposed to be that competitive against fourteen
- 52:32Speaker 6: time world champion Randy Jorton. Yeah, there's levels.
- 52:38Speaker 7: To this, absolutely for sure.
- 52:40Speaker 8: And that's why Joe Henry was such a perfect opponent too,
- 52:42Speaker 8: because a return you know, if they had done the
- 52:46Speaker 8: russ have returned, there or the Alice to Black return.
- 52:49Speaker 9: They have to win that match. They can't lose to
- 52:52Speaker 9: Randy Whaddon.
- 52:54Speaker 8: Same thing with like if he went and got a
- 52:56Speaker 8: legend like I don't know who I don't know, picks
- 52:58Speaker 8: an old guy, Like what fun is that to see
- 53:00Speaker 8: him beat up on an old guy. Joe Henry was
- 53:03Speaker 8: the perfect perfect combination of guy that can is a name,
- 53:09Speaker 8: can pop the crowd, can elevate himself even by losing
- 53:14Speaker 8: this match, you know, just because he's never been in
- 53:17Speaker 8: front of that many eyeballs before in his you know,
- 53:19Speaker 8: in his career.
- 53:21Speaker 9: A little anecdote, my wife no idea who this guy is?
- 53:24Speaker 8: His music goes and I think I made an audible
- 53:27Speaker 8: like yeah, and she went.
- 53:29Speaker 9: From she she said, who the fuck is this guy?
- 53:31Speaker 9: And by the time before he was finished walking down
- 53:34Speaker 9: the ramp.
- 53:34Speaker 8: She goes, I like this guy my my sample set
- 53:40Speaker 8: of one.
- 53:41Speaker 9: He was a great exposure for Joe Hendry.
- 53:44Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, that's one person, you know, thank you, one.
- 53:48Speaker 6: Person, one more believer. This was nothing but a win
- 53:55Speaker 6: for Joe Henry in every shape or form except for
- 53:58Speaker 6: the match itself.
- 53:59Speaker 11: Now, I love how you know what we get with
- 54:04Speaker 11: orton The next Night people, I can't believe Wharton just
- 54:08Speaker 11: goes right to the top and just challenges John Cena
- 54:10Speaker 11: right for the title.
- 54:12Speaker 7: I'm like, he did beat the world champion.
- 54:13Speaker 9: Last because it looked like he was gonna go after and.
- 54:19Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, And I was just like jokingly like he
- 54:21Speaker 11: did beat a TNA world champion last.
- 54:23Speaker 7: Night, So you know, I think that deserves a title shot,
- 54:27Speaker 7: right just to say what title? But yeah, I mean
- 54:31Speaker 7: I had, dude, I had my hands way even I
- 54:34Speaker 7: was believing, you know, people at my party marking out
- 54:37Speaker 7: the people who knew Actually, you know this is a
- 54:39Speaker 7: called people know because people who listened to the show
- 54:42Speaker 7: like no of Joe Hendry, Like.
- 54:43Speaker 11: So I was just that lifted me up, you know.
- 54:47Speaker 11: I mean, Russellman in Knight two was pretty solid thus far.
- 54:52Speaker 11: But that I mean, this is straight in the middle
- 54:54Speaker 11: of the show. We didn't get no halftime show, we.
- 54:57Speaker 5: Got no the opposite of night one.
- 55:00Speaker 7: Yeah, we didn't.
- 55:01Speaker 11: Get no gimmicky type event you know, new music act.
- 55:07Speaker 9: Ah.
- 55:08Speaker 7: No, we get the goofyness at the end of the night.
- 55:10Speaker 6: But uh yeah, I like the moment where Joe Hendry
- 55:14Speaker 6: went for the choke slam on radio Orton and Randy
- 55:16Speaker 6: Orton just looked like the fuck.
- 55:23Speaker 9: I mean, Henry still got his in.
- 55:24Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, he got all his moments in and
- 55:29Speaker 6: it was real creative usage of the moment of his
- 55:31Speaker 6: of his turnaround where he did it.
- 55:33Speaker 5: They zoom in, boom r ko.
- 55:36Speaker 11: Yeah, great camera, yep, great camera work.
- 55:43Speaker 6: So moving on after that nice fun segment, we had
- 55:47Speaker 6: to follow that up with Logan Paul uh in a
- 55:53Speaker 6: match against AJ Styles. Yay, nothing against A Styles, but yeah,
- 56:02Speaker 6: nothing for Logan Paul either. Yeah, this was a match
- 56:06Speaker 6: that happened and surprisingly went on for damn near eighteen minutes. Yeah,
- 56:13Speaker 6: August match of.
- 56:14Speaker 8: The night, and when the thing everyone's talking about is
- 56:18Speaker 8: something that somebody that wasn't in the match said after
- 56:20Speaker 8: the match, that's a problem and that carry across workshoot,
- 56:30Speaker 8: whatever it was Bromo he gave after the match. One
- 56:34Speaker 8: hundred times we were interested in anything happened in those
- 56:37Speaker 8: eighteen minutes from.
- 56:38Speaker 9: Bell to bell between AJ Styles and Logan Paul.
- 56:41Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 56:42Speaker 5: I remember nothing from this match.
- 56:44Speaker 6: Nothing from this match stood out other than yeah, remembering
- 56:48Speaker 6: the finish of of carrying across coming out and saying,
- 56:54Speaker 6: you know, please use this do this YadA YadA, and
- 56:57Speaker 6: AJ saying no and it costing him the match, which
- 57:01Speaker 6: to me was a from a creative standpoint, was a
- 57:05Speaker 6: wrong decision like one I wouldn't have had Carrying Across
- 57:10Speaker 6: begging Aj styles to use it. I would have had
- 57:13Speaker 6: him just present it to him, be more subtle about it.
- 57:16Speaker 6: Don't be so overtly desperate for him to do this thing,
- 57:20Speaker 6: especially after you know this past Monday you did the
- 57:22Speaker 6: nice subtle gesture of which I thought was really really
- 57:26Speaker 6: a good moment where he took the phenomenal forearm with
- 57:29Speaker 6: his hands behind his back, basically just giving himself up,
- 57:33Speaker 6: and AJ still hitting the move after he had, after
- 57:37Speaker 6: Cross had essentially given himself up. I would have played
- 57:40Speaker 6: on that more and he were me, I would have
- 57:43Speaker 6: had Aj turn here at Wrestlemedia. I would have had
- 57:45Speaker 6: him take the wind and do the dirt against Logan
- 57:49Speaker 6: and make him.
- 57:50Speaker 5: Turn heel or whatever the hell their direction is.
- 57:53Speaker 6: With AJ, I would have had Carrying Cross just present
- 57:57Speaker 6: them the knuck the knuckles maybe and have AJ think
- 58:02Speaker 6: about it, and you know, Carring Cross just walks away.
- 58:07Speaker 5: Here it is, it's in your hands.
- 58:09Speaker 6: And i'd have had Aj decide to use them and
- 58:10Speaker 6: defeat Logan Paul. At least then something would have came
- 58:14Speaker 6: out of this match that people would have remembered. As
- 58:18Speaker 6: it stands now, Like you said, Doyle, the most memorable
- 58:22Speaker 6: thing that happened happened after the match, which I still
- 58:26Speaker 6: have not seen yet. I've heard about it, but have not.
- 58:29Speaker 9: You should, you should seek it out.
- 58:32Speaker 7: Yes, well, you know what, fuck it, We'll play right
- 58:36Speaker 7: now here we go it is.
- 58:42Speaker 3: Let's talk about how awesome it is that Logan Paul
- 58:46Speaker 3: just won, and let's talk about Sam. Let's talk about
- 58:49Speaker 3: what Logan Paul represents. The shortcut. Feel so good to
- 58:52Speaker 3: be here, feels so good to be in the business.
- 58:54Speaker 3: Thinking about all of the funerals that I wasn't able
- 58:57Speaker 3: to attend for the last eleven years in this business,
- 59:00Speaker 3: all the holidays I miss. You know, I could have
- 59:02Speaker 3: just started on a YouTube channel, could have just jumped
- 59:04Speaker 3: in there at Kjo Steles. Feels really good, right, It's awesome,
- 59:08Speaker 3: It's really good.
- 59:09Speaker 2: Do you guys know we have twenty five years combined
- 59:11Speaker 2: experience and what are we doing on menia?
- 59:13Speaker 9: Well they know because they're normal human beings.
- 59:15Speaker 3: But and the actually love professional wrestling, but apparently it
- 59:17Speaker 3: doesn't mean shit anymore. That doesn't mean shit.
- 59:19Speaker 9: All I asked.
- 59:21Speaker 3: All I asked Alan to do was for once to
- 59:24Speaker 3: not think about just himself, think about everybody in the back,
- 59:29Speaker 3: and think about the professional wrestling fans. That's all I
- 59:32Speaker 3: wanted him to do. Sometimes to do the right thing,
- 59:35Speaker 3: you have to do the wrong thing. But he's a
- 59:38Speaker 3: narcissist and he had to do it his way. Hey, Alan,
- 59:41Speaker 3: how many more wrestlemannias do you have in your system?
- 59:44Speaker 5: Probably I don't know one.
- 59:45Speaker 3: Maybe it's just the last one and you just pissed
- 59:47Speaker 3: that away for what?
- 59:49Speaker 5: For what?
- 59:50Speaker 3: For your way? Thanks a lot, Bud, I really appreciate it.
- 59:54Speaker 3: You want to know what the best advice I ever
- 59:56Speaker 3: got it was? It was from Bill Goldberg twenty twenty one,
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: back when I was in the Twilight Zone.
- 1:00:02Speaker 7: You know what I mean. I'm wrestling for Gascline. It
- 1:00:05Speaker 7: was awesome.
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: Let me tell you all about it, Bill goes, Hey Cross,
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: you know what, you remind me a lot of me.
- 1:00:10Speaker 3: I go, I think we have different styles, Bill, but
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: I really appreciate that you have any advice for me.
- 1:00:14Speaker 7: He goes.
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: You know what you just got to be a good soldier.
- 1:00:17Speaker 3: A good soldier is what he said. So I decided
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: to be a good soldier. You know what happened. They
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: released me and then I come back. You know what,
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: Being a good soldier gets you. Everybody here just so
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: in case you're wondering you want you want the back
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: scoop here. Being a good soldier gets your times cut.
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: Being a good soldier means that people come up to
- 1:00:35Speaker 3: you and say, hey, you got any great ideas? Yeah,
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: here it is from Scotland. No, no, no, that's a little
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: too great.
- 1:00:39Speaker 6: We're looking just for good ideas.
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: That's for those guys over there. That's what big a
- 1:00:44Speaker 3: good soldier is.
- 1:00:45Speaker 5: Okay.
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: Being a good soldier is coming to your hometown where
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: you cut your teeth when we got started, and not
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: being on the card. It's all about viral moments, now,
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: that's what it's all about. Viral moments. Well, guy, everybody's
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: been telling me that I got to become undeniable, and
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: as soon as it happens, they ignore it and they
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: shut it down.
- 1:01:04Speaker 5: I never asked to wrestle Randy. I never asked.
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: That happened organically, and you ignored it for a viral
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: moment and good aunt Joe nothing against him, but you
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: ignored it. And the crowd told you exactly how they
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: felt about me on SmackDown when I was eliminated and
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: you ignored it. Become undeniable.
- 1:01:23Speaker 6: My ass, my ass.
- 1:01:27Speaker 5: You want a viral moment on.
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: Behalf of all of the true fans of professional wrestling.
- 1:01:33Speaker 6: Guy with the suit and tie the truck, go fuck yourself?
- 1:01:36Speaker 5: That's from Killer Cross.
- 1:01:37Speaker 11: No ooh, guys, gentlemen, I think I have another SoundBite
- 1:01:42Speaker 11: I can add to the soundboard.
- 1:01:43Speaker 7: I can add that right to.
- 1:01:45Speaker 10: Uh, go fuck yourself right next to that one awesome
- 1:01:50Speaker 10: uh I do have here, says According to Fightful, select
- 1:01:53Speaker 10: Cross does not have any backstage heat.
- 1:01:56Speaker 11: Despite his pointed comments, The segment, while unscripted, did catch
- 1:02:02Speaker 11: the attention of w W management No ship. A source
- 1:02:05Speaker 11: told Fightful that while many interviews on the recap show
- 1:02:09Speaker 11: were unscripted across, the segment required some approval before it aired.
- 1:02:14Speaker 7: Due to the language go fuck yourself apparently had to
- 1:02:18Speaker 7: get approved. But yeah, uh, I mean yeah, yeah, Alan.
- 1:02:27Speaker 11: You know what though, He's right though, because I always
- 1:02:30Speaker 11: think of people when he mentions how you maybe just
- 1:02:34Speaker 11: pissed away your last wrestling and they have how much
- 1:02:36Speaker 11: more time do you have?
- 1:02:37Speaker 7: I feel that way.
- 1:02:39Speaker 11: I feel it man like guys like AJ styles, guys
- 1:02:42Speaker 11: like seeing punk guys like uh John Cena like these
- 1:02:45Speaker 11: you know, you only got a few more matches with
- 1:02:48Speaker 11: some of these guys, and it's like, let's not piss
- 1:02:50Speaker 11: them away. And uh Dre, I agree, man, I don't
- 1:02:54Speaker 11: remember a lot from this match. Uh you know, I
- 1:02:58Speaker 11: it sucks. Is like our last episode. I was predicting,
- 1:03:03Speaker 11: you know, our prediction episode. I was predicting that this
- 1:03:04Speaker 11: was gonna be a really good, you know fight. I
- 1:03:07Speaker 11: thought these guys were gonna have some cool high spots.
- 1:03:10Speaker 11: Uh no, I mean it was. It was pretty boring,
- 1:03:15Speaker 11: man Like. If there was a match I was most
- 1:03:19Speaker 11: disappointed with on this card, this was it. And with
- 1:03:23Speaker 11: the amount of time they got, you know, but go ahead, Dole,
- 1:03:29Speaker 11: I spoke long enough.
- 1:03:32Speaker 9: Oh no, I mean this this is just a The
- 1:03:35Speaker 9: story was terrible.
- 1:03:36Speaker 8: The match wasn't very I mean the match was okay,
- 1:03:39Speaker 8: it wasn't great.
- 1:03:40Speaker 9: Uh yeah, it justs what it was.
- 1:03:42Speaker 8: Like I said, when when a viral moment after the
- 1:03:45Speaker 8: matches is the thing everybody's talking about, not the best
- 1:03:48Speaker 8: time yep, And I really want to like carrying across
- 1:03:53Speaker 8: a lot, but.
- 1:03:56Speaker 9: I feel like I can't remember the last time I
- 1:03:59Speaker 9: saw him wrestle. I guess he's been on. He was
- 1:04:01Speaker 9: on recently, but anyway, he's just not a very wrestler.
- 1:04:05Speaker 9: That's surprised. He's great with the other stuff. If you
- 1:04:09Speaker 9: can figure out a way to get a little better
- 1:04:13Speaker 9: in the.
- 1:04:13Speaker 8: Brain or something. I really want to like this guy.
- 1:04:17Speaker 8: But we'll see what happens with all this. Hopefully he
- 1:04:19Speaker 8: can get his act together. But that is the most
- 1:04:22Speaker 8: interesting thing and then carry across them all. But with
- 1:04:25Speaker 8: this match was the most interesting thing about it, and
- 1:04:28Speaker 8: that's not a good time.
- 1:04:32Speaker 6: Yeah, reacting to that interview in real time, you could
- 1:04:38Speaker 6: tell he was definitely blurring the lines between quote unquote
- 1:04:42Speaker 6: k fabe and reality. That was definitely a line blurring
- 1:04:46Speaker 6: interview if anything, not full on shoot, but also you know,
- 1:04:51Speaker 6: not just a work. There was some shit in there.
- 1:04:54Speaker 6: He was getting off his chest in that one for real,
- 1:04:57Speaker 6: and it's it's the type of moment that can potentially
- 1:05:08Speaker 6: break him out of obscurity. But it's up to create
- 1:05:14Speaker 6: ww creative, So whether they want to take advantage of it,
- 1:05:20Speaker 6: because if what he says is true, every it's all
- 1:05:22Speaker 6: about viral moments now, so everything's about these viral moments. Well,
- 1:05:26Speaker 6: you just had one right there. What are you gonna
- 1:05:29Speaker 6: do about it? Because if he's somebody that triple or
- 1:05:36Speaker 6: if he's somebody that triple potentially in or something like that,
- 1:05:40Speaker 6: and you needed something to break him out of obscurity
- 1:05:43Speaker 6: to get people paying attention to him, this is it.
- 1:05:47Speaker 6: This is the moment that you have. How you take
- 1:05:49Speaker 6: advantage of that, you know, that's for y'all to determine.
- 1:05:52Speaker 6: If he if y'all turn him into that line blurrying character,
- 1:05:56Speaker 6: you know, it kind of gives you shades of see
- 1:05:58Speaker 6: him Punk first running WWE, when he was becoming discruddled
- 1:06:02Speaker 6: and they were doing a lot of line blurring shit
- 1:06:05Speaker 6: with him. It's shades of that. But it worked then.
- 1:06:09Speaker 6: Who's to say it can't work in theory with Cross
- 1:06:12Speaker 6: to a certain extent now, But if they if the
- 1:06:17Speaker 6: next time we see him on camera he's just doing
- 1:06:20Speaker 6: the same shit he was doing before in WrestleMania, then
- 1:06:23Speaker 6: this will be an opportunity wasted.
- 1:06:29Speaker 5: M m hmm.
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: What about Carlos, Yeah, no, no, no, I completely agree
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: with what Drey was saying, like, we've had this build
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: up with carrying Cross for is it like the past
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: year or a year and a half where he's just
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: been going working in the background. He's been like skulking, eyeballing,
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: you know, just hitting figures and then dropping little drip
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: dripping like little bits of uh like Insecure thirty into
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: the wrestlers like for example, the New Day and now
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: you know, first the Xavior, then he got into Kofe's
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: ear and now they flipped, they took out Biggie and
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: now they're on their little heel run. And Drew McIntyre
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: is another example of another wrestler that he talked to.
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: You know, he was all about, you know, contrast to
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: like we just watched rus So Mania thirty six week
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: did the review about almost about a month now, but
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: he was the face of the company for that time.
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: He won the title, you know, and here we flashed,
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: we flashed forward about five years and like the trajectory
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: of him being like the number one face is completely
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: dropped and now it's shifted to the other way.
- 1:07:47Speaker 5: You know.
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: So I would like for them to do something and
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: him having that kind of that promo kind of with
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: a shoot and everything like that during WrestleMania weekend. Definitely
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: will get some eyes because what they say they had
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: over one hundred and twenty eight hundred and thirty thousand
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: people attend. That's not including the people that actually viewed
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: it all over the world. So and I'm sure the
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: Reddit community is passed down around. I've seen it, you know,
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: the Twitter community, any social media presence or wherever community,
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: wherever you get your sports entertainment, wrestling news from. It's
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: been passed around. Everyone's seen it, everyone's heard it. So
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: it should give him more eyes on him. And now
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: I think he uploaded. If it wasn't something today, it
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: was something yesterday about they're releasing the trailer about Killer Cross.
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: And I'm not sure if it's like an actual documentary
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: like for him, like in like for him in real life,
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: or is this part of the kfabe. Is it part
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: of the kfabe or is it part of the kfape
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: with a little bit of shooting in there. You know, So.
- 1:09:09Speaker 9: Whatever it is, or it might already be out.
- 1:09:13Speaker 6: Yeah, whatever it is, it's gonna have to maintain that
- 1:09:17Speaker 6: if it's wrestling, if it's WWE programming related it needs
- 1:09:22Speaker 6: to maintain that blurred line because that's what's got people's interest. Now,
- 1:09:26Speaker 6: that's what has people's attention. Yeah, if they just fall
- 1:09:31Speaker 6: back into the regular KFAPE storyline, they'll lose everything.
- 1:09:34Speaker 5: They'll lose it.
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: Yeah, and then maybe that's what they're they're leading into
- 1:09:38Speaker 2: now because it's not coming like across a WWE channel,
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: like their YouTube channel. It's coming from his YouTube channel
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: with the Killer Cross whatever it is. So the most
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: interesting thing that I got is that I guess Scarlett
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: has more years on them in the business than carrying
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: across because she said that they have twenty fiers combined.
- 1:10:03Speaker 8: Oh yeah, and figuring that out Chicago's very own card.
- 1:10:12Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to look look up up and see
- 1:10:14Speaker 5: when they started.
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: Like though, I think I was interrupted whenever you were
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: going to get to the distract you.
- 1:10:24Speaker 9: Yeah, it doesn't matter, right.
- 1:10:31Speaker 6: Any other thoughts on Logan or a J Well, apparently
- 1:10:35Speaker 6: Logan Paul is about to It's gonna be Jay Usso's
- 1:10:38Speaker 6: first opponent as UH World Heavyweight Champion, which I'm not
- 1:10:43Speaker 6: completely mad about because given that the fans have been
- 1:10:50Speaker 6: fairly luke well the I won't say the fans the
- 1:10:53Speaker 6: i w C has been fairly lukewarm about Jay Usso
- 1:10:57Speaker 6: what's the one way to really shut that down to
- 1:10:59Speaker 6: get people back fully on James side. Put them up
- 1:11:02Speaker 6: against somebody they hate even more. Yeah, and that's damn sure,
- 1:11:06Speaker 6: Logan Paul.
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I just not. I'm hoping that they could both
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: carry each other. So it's because I don't know if
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: Jay's still working on his cardio or something like that,
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: because yeah, exactly, And then you know, we've seen what
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: the Logan Paul was able to do with aj give
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: us a very unmemorable match. So mostly only time will tell,
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: But you know, I'm really thinking that Jay's probably gonna
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: have this title run only going to SummerSlam unfortunately.
- 1:11:46Speaker 5: Yeah tbd.
- 1:11:47Speaker 6: So next up after this, we got an ultimate match,
- 1:11:53Speaker 6: which somebody decided that the second to last match all
- 1:11:57Speaker 6: Night two of WrestleMania needed to be the Women's Tag
- 1:12:01Speaker 6: Team Championship match, with liv Morgan and Roquel Rodriguez defending
- 1:12:07Speaker 6: their belts against what was supposed to have been Lyra
- 1:12:10Speaker 6: Valkyria and Bailey. It turned out out to be Bailey
- 1:12:15Speaker 6: because Bailey was attacked backstage before the show, causing Lyra
- 1:12:21Speaker 6: Valkuria that need an opponent at the last minute, and
- 1:12:24Speaker 6: who would lo and Behold show up to be her
- 1:12:29Speaker 6: partner the Man the World who returned to a very
- 1:12:38Speaker 6: big pop, and in the match, of course, Larra, Valkyria
- 1:12:45Speaker 6: and Becky Lynch won to become the new women's tag
- 1:12:51Speaker 6: team Champions, just to turn around the very next night
- 1:12:55Speaker 6: all raw and lose the guy damn belts right back
- 1:12:58Speaker 6: to live in rock cat and resulting in Becky Lynch
- 1:13:04Speaker 6: turning on Lyra the very next night and beating the
- 1:13:08Speaker 6: dog shit out of her, leading to a Becky Lynch
- 1:13:11Speaker 6: Hill turn. What in the entire fuck was this whole
- 1:13:15Speaker 6: sequence of booking.
- 1:13:17Speaker 11: Oh dre It goes further than this, because liv is
- 1:13:22Speaker 11: leaving to go do a movie and they now have
- 1:13:25Speaker 11: the tag titles, Like these tag titles are sluts right now,
- 1:13:30Speaker 11: they're being passed around. Uh you know this is like
- 1:13:33Speaker 11: the joint at the party. Everybody's getting a little bit
- 1:13:36Speaker 11: of it. Is it just to jack up you know?
- 1:13:39Speaker 11: Over callen lives like wins like now that now the
- 1:13:41Speaker 11: way they have like a three time tag team champions
- 1:13:45Speaker 11: together or something like that.
- 1:13:47Speaker 7: I didn't understand this.
- 1:13:49Speaker 11: And poor Bailey doing all the fucking lifting, you know,
- 1:13:54Speaker 11: doing all the fucking lifting, just for Becky to pull
- 1:13:57Speaker 11: a fucking Hogan moment, you know.
- 1:14:00Speaker 6: Out of the you know, and out of all of
- 1:14:02Speaker 6: this booking shit, Bailey's the only person in this whole
- 1:14:05Speaker 6: tire thing.
- 1:14:06Speaker 5: That I give a shit about.
- 1:14:08Speaker 6: And that's because I feel bad for her, especially if
- 1:14:12Speaker 6: and if I have thought about it, I would have
- 1:14:14Speaker 6: had your cue.
- 1:14:14Speaker 5: I would have had you get to sound bite from it.
- 1:14:16Speaker 6: But during WrestleMania Week, Bailey did an interview with Chris
- 1:14:21Speaker 6: van Fleet and it's actually a really good interview. It's
- 1:14:23Speaker 6: about an hour long. It's on his YouTube channel. I
- 1:14:26Speaker 6: recommend everybody go check it out. But she talks about
- 1:14:30Speaker 6: how she sees herself in this during that interview, and
- 1:14:35Speaker 6: she talks about how despite the fact that she was
- 1:14:38Speaker 6: one of you know, the four horse women who all
- 1:14:41Speaker 6: came up through NXT together, you know, her, Charlotte, Becky,
- 1:14:45Speaker 6: and Sasha, and how they've all gone on to be obviously,
- 1:14:51Speaker 6: Charlotte and Becky have gone on to become, you know,
- 1:14:53Speaker 6: at the top of the women's division, and she's been
- 1:14:56Speaker 6: in there just as long as they have. She's done,
- 1:14:59Speaker 6: you know, she may not have the same number of
- 1:15:01Speaker 6: accolades of them, but she talks about how she doesn't
- 1:15:04Speaker 6: see herself as being on their level. She sees Charlotte
- 1:15:08Speaker 6: and Becky up here and she's somewhere below them, and she.
- 1:15:13Speaker 5: Talks about how.
- 1:15:16Speaker 6: And is in the moment you can almost kind of
- 1:15:18Speaker 6: feel like she's getting a little emotional when she's talking
- 1:15:20Speaker 6: about it, but she's always like, you know, some of
- 1:15:22Speaker 6: it may be her own doing, because she's just the
- 1:15:26Speaker 6: one who takes whatever booking they give her and just
- 1:15:30Speaker 6: tries to make the best out of it, whereas some
- 1:15:32Speaker 6: others may go in there and say, you know, and
- 1:15:34Speaker 6: I'm not doing that, that doesn't make sense for me,
- 1:15:36Speaker 6: or you know, maybe fight for themselves harder, or reject
- 1:15:40Speaker 6: certain things, you know, and shoot down or fight back
- 1:15:44Speaker 6: against creative. Where she's not the one who does that.
- 1:15:47Speaker 6: She's I guess somebody told her at some point or
- 1:15:49Speaker 6: creator know, whatever they give you, make it work, make
- 1:15:51Speaker 6: the most.
- 1:15:52Speaker 5: Out of it.
- 1:15:53Speaker 6: And she's done that throughout her career, trying to make
- 1:15:56Speaker 6: the most out of it, and it may have you know,
- 1:15:59Speaker 6: perhaps that's cost. I'm not saying that she said this
- 1:16:01Speaker 6: at this point, but this is kind of my own
- 1:16:02Speaker 6: speculation at this point, but perhaps that's cost her a
- 1:16:05Speaker 6: bit at times. Perhaps there were some things that she
- 1:16:08Speaker 6: wound up doing that maybe she didn't agree with or
- 1:16:11Speaker 6: didn't like. But because she's always had the mentality of
- 1:16:16Speaker 6: making whatever she gets work and making the most out
- 1:16:19Speaker 6: of it, it's kind of put.
- 1:16:21Speaker 5: Her in this position.
- 1:16:22Speaker 6: And then she actually and she almost slips up at
- 1:16:26Speaker 6: one point in interview because she says like and by
- 1:16:29Speaker 6: the time this airs and she cuts herself off. So
- 1:16:32Speaker 6: it seems like at the time she recorded this interview
- 1:16:34Speaker 6: with Chris van Fleet, she already knew she was out
- 1:16:37Speaker 6: of WrestleMania, And that makes even more sad because she's
- 1:16:41Speaker 6: talking about this knowing what's already been, knowing what the
- 1:16:46Speaker 6: booking is already gonna be, and that she's been booked
- 1:16:49Speaker 6: out of the car despite being on all the posters.
- 1:16:52Speaker 6: Like imagine walking around Vegas that week, all the posters
- 1:16:56Speaker 6: and stuff up there, and this is you and Lyra
- 1:16:58Speaker 6: supposedly being booked on this man, and everybody's going to
- 1:17:00Speaker 6: thinking to you, a Larra, and you know you're not
- 1:17:04Speaker 6: gonna be part of the show this year. They're gonna
- 1:17:06Speaker 6: write you off in exchange for Becky Lynch. This person
- 1:17:09Speaker 6: that you see is already being above you, who hasn't
- 1:17:13Speaker 6: been in the broke, who hasn't been on TV for
- 1:17:15Speaker 6: the last year, but decides that she wants to come
- 1:17:18Speaker 6: back now. And because she decides she wants to come
- 1:17:21Speaker 6: back now, she gets to take your spot on the show.
- 1:17:24Speaker 5: How fucked up is that?
- 1:17:26Speaker 7: Extremely? Like I said, you know, Bailey did all the work.
- 1:17:32Speaker 7: I felt like, like, don't hear I love Becky Man.
- 1:17:34Speaker 7: I have them.
- 1:17:34Speaker 11: I have the man t shirt in my closet. You know,
- 1:17:38Speaker 11: I'm a mark for her. But it felt like she
- 1:17:43Speaker 11: pulled a Hogan moment. You know, she was gone for
- 1:17:45Speaker 11: a while, she came back, inserted herself, took away the
- 1:17:50Speaker 11: spotlight from somebody else.
- 1:17:52Speaker 7: But I'm sure there's all There's a reason for a
- 1:17:57Speaker 7: lot of things. Because we saw what happened, you know after,
- 1:18:01Speaker 7: you know, like we said, we saw the tag titles
- 1:18:04Speaker 7: get lost again. We saw Bety turned on Valkyrie her outfit.
- 1:18:09Speaker 7: I'm sorry, like Valkyrie's the wings, I just reminded me
- 1:18:12Speaker 7: of the guys on It's Always Sunny Philadelphia when they
- 1:18:15Speaker 7: were had the American Eagle wings.
- 1:18:19Speaker 5: When Carrie came out there on her big bird status.
- 1:18:24Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, but I mean, but it is what it
- 1:18:28Speaker 7: is booking. But like, I mean, I don't hate Becky,
- 1:18:31Speaker 7: She's a heel. Now I love it.
- 1:18:33Speaker 8: I feel like must have promised Bailey something right, right, Well,
- 1:18:38Speaker 8: I thought like we'll get a title run after, you know,
- 1:18:41Speaker 8: when the title of Thomas Slam.
- 1:18:42Speaker 9: Or something right.
- 1:18:43Speaker 5: I don't see you would think that.
- 1:18:46Speaker 6: But after hearing her interview with Chris van Fleet, I
- 1:18:49Speaker 6: don't know that she was promised that.
- 1:18:51Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 1:18:53Speaker 6: I mean, it's not like she it's not like she
- 1:18:55Speaker 6: just sounded like completely disgruntled with everything, Like that's not
- 1:18:58Speaker 6: how she stopped it in interview. And again I encourage
- 1:19:00Speaker 6: everybody to go back and watch it or at least
- 1:19:02Speaker 6: find the clip because that clip has been shared around
- 1:19:05Speaker 6: a lot and talk about a lot. But you said,
- 1:19:09Speaker 6: she doesn't sound like angry or disgruntled. She just sounds
- 1:19:11Speaker 6: more sad when she's talking about it. And again, she
- 1:19:15Speaker 6: doesn't say like you know, she has any issues with
- 1:19:17Speaker 6: Triple ahor like she openly she says in the in
- 1:19:20Speaker 6: the moment that you know her and Triple Ahs have.
- 1:19:22Speaker 5: A good relationship.
- 1:19:24Speaker 6: They have a good, strong working relationship with each other.
- 1:19:27Speaker 6: I don't know that they said that, they like, hey,
- 1:19:30Speaker 6: take this fall and we'll you know, we'll make it
- 1:19:32Speaker 6: up to you with such and such a point. I
- 1:19:34Speaker 6: don't know. Maybe they did, but I don't know that
- 1:19:37Speaker 6: I trust that they did. They may have just done
- 1:19:42Speaker 6: it because she's the good soldier.
- 1:19:45Speaker 9: Yeah, well if she comes back and gets a title line, well.
- 1:19:49Speaker 11: No, yeah, I mean, like I could see, you know,
- 1:19:54Speaker 11: Bailey returning and you know, insert the icy title and
- 1:19:58Speaker 11: maybe a triple thread or maybe Becky beats you know,
- 1:20:01Speaker 11: Becky gets the title and Becky loses it to Bailey,
- 1:20:04Speaker 11: you know, like.
- 1:20:05Speaker 6: Comes back and just gets served up to Becky because
- 1:20:08Speaker 6: obviously Becky revealed herself as the attacker, and Bailey comes
- 1:20:12Speaker 6: back wanting revenge, and you know, Becky just.
- 1:20:15Speaker 5: Whoops on her.
- 1:20:17Speaker 7: The fact that that where we.
- 1:20:20Speaker 11: Were like, there's no way they're gonna put two titles
- 1:20:23Speaker 11: on there, right, I feel some dumb.
- 1:20:31Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, thank god.
- 1:20:32Speaker 6: It's a technicality, but not something that anybody's likely to remember.
- 1:20:38Speaker 7: Also, Live Morgan best bringing the ring gear of the night,
- 1:20:43Speaker 7: just just putting that out there, fellas.
- 1:20:49Speaker 5: I mean, when has liv Morgan not had among the
- 1:20:51Speaker 5: best ring gear of any woman?
- 1:20:52Speaker 2: Of the Night, Woman of the Night, good one.
- 1:21:00Speaker 6: Call.
- 1:21:01Speaker 5: I didn't even think about it that way.
- 1:21:04Speaker 2: Oh you didn't mean it that way. You were used to.
- 1:21:08Speaker 5: The night on the car, not like not like she's
- 1:21:10Speaker 5: some sort of.
- 1:21:11Speaker 6: Street walker, how daring, sir, God, Women of the Night.
- 1:21:17Speaker 6: That's what they specifically call the ones in Vegas.
- 1:21:18Speaker 2: To Jesus, I thought that's where you were going with them.
- 1:21:25Speaker 2: When you're like the gear of any of the women
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: of the night, you know, like Zoe start here complaining
- 1:21:30Speaker 2: about what's wearing.
- 1:21:34Speaker 7: May you see that Zoe starts be complaining about I
- 1:21:37Speaker 7: guess the ring gear that wears.
- 1:21:40Speaker 2: I'm if everything comes about that, that's it's just you.
- 1:21:45Speaker 2: You you have to find your gimmick. If she doesn't
- 1:21:49Speaker 2: want to show that particular amount of skin exactly, I
- 1:21:53Speaker 2: mean that's fine. I mean they try to get the
- 1:21:55Speaker 2: rub when they pay her out the Trish, and they
- 1:21:57Speaker 2: just didn't go anywhere, Like I'm not sure if the
- 1:22:00Speaker 2: storyline then they just couldn't find anything or make it work,
- 1:22:04Speaker 2: or they realized that the audience was like, yeah, the
- 1:22:07Speaker 2: audience loves Trish, but they don't like you Zone, So
- 1:22:12Speaker 2: what do you want us to do?
- 1:22:13Speaker 6: So? Yeah, I mean she was still new on the
- 1:22:16Speaker 6: main roster at that time, so yeah, they didn't. I
- 1:22:19Speaker 6: was fans didn't really have much to get invested on
- 1:22:21Speaker 6: her behind other than the fact that you know, she
- 1:22:24Speaker 6: was Trish Stratus's sidekick.
- 1:22:27Speaker 9: Yeah, well they gave her this cocta cold fusion.
- 1:22:34Speaker 6: Oh yeah with her and Shana, they're not they're not
- 1:22:42Speaker 6: giving her the best ship to work with either.
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: They pitched that, so wow.
- 1:22:49Speaker 6: Yeah, they did pitch that. I don't know if it
- 1:22:53Speaker 6: was the all for them that pitched it or if
- 1:22:54Speaker 6: it was's I did. Maybe because it flopped so hard
- 1:22:57Speaker 6: that's why they was like a sonya best luck.
- 1:23:01Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's something I think I heard Shanea say
- 1:23:05Speaker 2: that that's that's how they pitched. They pitched it. They
- 1:23:07Speaker 2: pitched that they were going to be uh you know,
- 1:23:10Speaker 2: like MMA asque type of stable and that was that
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: whole part of the fusion.
- 1:23:15Speaker 5: And there wasn't a look at MMA and none of
- 1:23:17Speaker 5: what they did.
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: So well, I can't do but for me, this match
- 1:23:25Speaker 2: is I think I mentioned in the discord. If you
- 1:23:28Speaker 2: guys have not joined the podcast Championship discord, we'll go
- 1:23:32Speaker 2: ahead and rehash everything that we've said, uh, pretty much
- 1:23:36Speaker 2: in this podcast, but that I had pointed out too
- 1:23:41Speaker 2: that like it made no sense, but it since they
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: gave up the titles the next day. But I can
- 1:23:48Speaker 2: see why Paul Triple H would be like, you know what,
- 1:23:52Speaker 2: we're gonna have you win this night because we can't
- 1:23:55Speaker 2: waste the pop. Everyone wants to see you come back.
- 1:23:57Speaker 2: Everyone's happy they see you come back. Can't break everyone's
- 1:24:01Speaker 2: hearts a WrestleMania because guess what we're gonna have John
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: Ceno with. Yeah, we can't have a we can't have
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: you know, a bad uh you know, kind of like
- 1:24:17Speaker 2: a bad turn or you know, a surprising turn. When
- 1:24:21Speaker 2: we're gonna have John Cena win at the end. It's
- 1:24:24Speaker 2: like just like depression or sad bottles sad. But you know,
- 1:24:29Speaker 2: if you're a fan of math, like a negative, a
- 1:24:31Speaker 2: negative makes a positive. So they should have just went
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: with it. They probably would have got something good out
- 1:24:35Speaker 2: of it. But now we're course correcting the next night
- 1:24:38Speaker 2: and I has everyone on here, why did you bother
- 1:24:41Speaker 2: to do this? And now with them announcing that Live
- 1:24:44Speaker 2: is going to be gone to go film this movie,
- 1:24:47Speaker 2: film a move, you know, to go be in a
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: movie and that she is possibly the lead of it.
- 1:24:54Speaker 2: That's like six to eight weeks. What are you gonna
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: do with the mistag team titles? Because it's not just
- 1:24:59Speaker 2: raw for all three brands, NXT and SmackDown included.
- 1:25:05Speaker 9: Like I said, to give them.
- 1:25:07Speaker 8: He's like, you're you're granted a leave or something he said,
- 1:25:10Speaker 8: and then he wouldn't get on to doms.
- 1:25:11Speaker 9: I don't know if that was supposed to clear that
- 1:25:13Speaker 9: up or whatever, but like, why not.
- 1:25:15Speaker 8: I don't have a problem with Hotshot in those titles
- 1:25:18Speaker 8: around whatever?
- 1:25:19Speaker 9: Who gives a shit?
- 1:25:20Speaker 8: But I don't understand why they put them back on
- 1:25:22Speaker 8: Living Roquet? Why not put them on somebody else?
- 1:25:24Speaker 2: Exactly?
- 1:25:25Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean, and realistically it's the women's tag team titles.
- 1:25:29Speaker 6: Who gives a ship? If we don't see those belts
- 1:25:31Speaker 6: at all for the next six weeks, who cares?
- 1:25:34Speaker 5: They kill?
- 1:25:36Speaker 6: How? You don't?
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: But I care?
- 1:25:39Speaker 9: Yeah?
- 1:25:39Speaker 7: There you go. That's two.
- 1:25:42Speaker 6: The word is that it is legitimate, like her leave
- 1:25:44Speaker 6: of her time off, you know that is real. She
- 1:25:48Speaker 6: is legitimately going to be filming a movie, which is
- 1:25:53Speaker 6: I don't know if she's deleted, but I've heard that
- 1:25:56Speaker 6: she's slated to have a major role in the film,
- 1:25:58Speaker 6: and it's not some cheap WWE Films project.
- 1:26:02Speaker 5: It's it's supposedly something significant. Now what it is.
- 1:26:05Speaker 6: Apparently, I guess they said it will be deveiled what
- 1:26:08Speaker 6: next week. The rumors have already started flying about what
- 1:26:13Speaker 6: it could be, and I've heard one that I don't
- 1:26:17Speaker 6: even know if I was classified as a rumor.
- 1:26:18Speaker 5: I don't think it's more fans.
- 1:26:20Speaker 6: Speculation, but it peaked, but it caught my attention because
- 1:26:23Speaker 6: if it were should be true, it would be wild.
- 1:26:27Speaker 6: Now full disclosure, I don't believe it's true. I don't
- 1:26:30Speaker 6: think it's actually going to be this movie. I think
- 1:26:34Speaker 6: it's more so fans just putting two coincidences together and
- 1:26:38Speaker 6: trying to make something out of nothing. But coincidentally, there
- 1:26:42Speaker 6: is a very big movie that is stayed to start
- 1:26:46Speaker 6: filming this summer, and it's obviously Lives about to have
- 1:26:53Speaker 6: time off, and this movie is slated to have a
- 1:26:57Speaker 6: character in it that Live Morgan very much bears a
- 1:27:03Speaker 6: striking resemblance to.
- 1:27:06Speaker 5: Require very huh.
- 1:27:09Speaker 7: I was like, I know she's gonna be an Avengers Doomsday.
- 1:27:13Speaker 6: She could require very little effort to look like this character.
- 1:27:19Speaker 6: If it were true, and no, I'm not talking about
- 1:27:23Speaker 6: Barbie two, but it.
- 1:27:26Speaker 2: Was resembling to the role that Barbie too has already
- 1:27:33Speaker 2: portrayed in movies.
- 1:27:38Speaker 6: No, okay, the one not a role that Barbie is
- 1:27:45Speaker 6: portrayed in movies. No, not that, not that actress. But
- 1:27:50Speaker 6: you're not too far off. You're in the ballpark. It's
- 1:27:54Speaker 6: a movie from the other company. But I won't bury
- 1:28:01Speaker 6: it too much further. The rumor is, and well, the
- 1:28:04Speaker 6: movie that it's like to start filming this summer is
- 1:28:07Speaker 6: Spider Man four.
- 1:28:09Speaker 5: The character in question is Gwenn Stacy.
- 1:28:14Speaker 2: See.
- 1:28:14Speaker 8: The only rumor i've is that it's not a superhero
- 1:28:18Speaker 8: movie and it's a dramatic role.
- 1:28:21Speaker 2: I can see that one. I can't see here playing
- 1:28:23Speaker 2: Gwen like I think.
- 1:28:27Speaker 6: I mean, she's young ish, but it's not still in
- 1:28:31Speaker 6: her twenties.
- 1:28:32Speaker 2: No, she's in theties. She's in the early thirties. So yeah,
- 1:28:41Speaker 2: like Tom Holland still looks kind of boy ish even
- 1:28:44Speaker 2: though he's like in his mid to late twenties. And
- 1:28:47Speaker 2: now I think, so I can see thirty on the
- 1:28:53Speaker 2: DIT okay, soty.
- 1:28:55Speaker 6: Thirty one, Yeah, it should be thirty one this year.
- 1:28:58Speaker 2: Ye, so yeah, so maybe I just don't see it happening,
- 1:29:04Speaker 2: like like I'd like to be shocked, you know, I
- 1:29:09Speaker 2: like to be surprised. So if she goes out there,
- 1:29:12Speaker 2: you know, and make something happen, that is something she
- 1:29:15Speaker 2: wished upon. And I don't know what she sacrificed because
- 1:29:18Speaker 2: she's a self proclaimed witch.
- 1:29:21Speaker 6: So and I mean Living Morgan is thirty, she'll be
- 1:29:26Speaker 6: thirty one. He's only two years older than Tom Holland,
- 1:29:30Speaker 6: so age wise, it ain't like it's that much of
- 1:29:32Speaker 6: a reach. Again, I don't believe it's true for a second,
- 1:29:36Speaker 6: just because one liv Morgan, her acting chops are improving,
- 1:29:44Speaker 6: and if we going based off what we see in WWE,
- 1:29:47Speaker 6: it ain't much to be optimistic about.
- 1:29:50Speaker 5: But she could prove us all wrong.
- 1:29:51Speaker 6: She could actually, you know, win put behind the Kevin,
- 1:29:54Speaker 6: given some actual meat to work, which she could prove
- 1:29:57Speaker 6: to be a very fine actress.
- 1:29:58Speaker 5: Who's I just don't.
- 1:30:01Speaker 6: See her being given a role of that much prominence
- 1:30:05Speaker 6: in the MCU as a gwyn Stacy because, for one,
- 1:30:11Speaker 6: if it's Gwenn Stacy, obviously it's not a one picture deal.
- 1:30:15Speaker 6: It would be for multiple films, presumably as Gwinn Stacy
- 1:30:19Speaker 6: in this Spider Man continuity potentially the greater MCU continuity,
- 1:30:24Speaker 6: because obviously we know what happens with Gwenn Stacy and
- 1:30:27Speaker 6: how she eventually evolves into Spider.
- 1:30:28Speaker 5: Gwyn and all that.
- 1:30:30Speaker 6: I'd be shocked and they give a role of that
- 1:30:33Speaker 6: significance to a newcomer like Lift Morgan. That's the main
- 1:30:38Speaker 6: reason why I don't believe it at all for a second.
- 1:30:41Speaker 9: Plus, like, what.
- 1:30:41Speaker 8: Will that be over the course of five six years,
- 1:30:44Speaker 8: Like she's gonna be explaining still, Like.
- 1:30:49Speaker 6: I mean, at a certain point, they're adult. I mean
- 1:30:51Speaker 6: I think currently in the MCU they're they're out of
- 1:30:55Speaker 6: high school now as far as those characters, so they're
- 1:30:59Speaker 6: they're young adult. Yeah, so she could still do that,
- 1:31:02Speaker 6: but yeah, like I said, if there was that, it
- 1:31:05Speaker 6: would be probably a multi film, multi year commitment, So
- 1:31:08Speaker 6: you know, she'd be the one. She'd be having to
- 1:31:11Speaker 6: take time off a lot, potentially over the next couple
- 1:31:15Speaker 6: of years, depending on how this goes.
- 1:31:18Speaker 2: What about that Black Cat? Can you see her as
- 1:31:20Speaker 2: a Black Cat?
- 1:31:22Speaker 12: Yeah?
- 1:31:22Speaker 7: I yeah, that's what I was thinking back.
- 1:31:26Speaker 5: Yeah, I could see her in that role.
- 1:31:29Speaker 6: If that character, I don't know, I haven't looked much
- 1:31:31Speaker 6: into Spider Man for so, I don't know what all
- 1:31:32Speaker 6: characters are going to be part of it, but yeah
- 1:31:34Speaker 6: she could. She could also play a damn good Felicia Hardy. Honestly, hell,
- 1:31:40Speaker 6: she might be better as a Felicia Hardy than gwyn Stacy.
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: And then that character could just pop in here and there,
- 1:31:46Speaker 2: just like little maybe you take up ten fifteen minutes
- 1:31:49Speaker 2: of screen, but still can be considered maybe a major
- 1:31:52Speaker 2: player because they'll have like contributions to do to the
- 1:31:58Speaker 2: main story here and there, you know, kind of like
- 1:32:00Speaker 2: they threw and halfaway in doing something important as Catwoman
- 1:32:04Speaker 2: in the last Batman movie.
- 1:32:07Speaker 6: Yeah, and that would be a single movie commitment, because
- 1:32:10Speaker 6: I doubt we would get Felicia Hardy in multiple films
- 1:32:13Speaker 6: unless she proved to be like super popular. But it
- 1:32:16Speaker 6: certainly wouldn't be as large of a commitment as presumably
- 1:32:19Speaker 6: gwinn Stacy.
- 1:32:23Speaker 5: But I guess we'll find out next week.
- 1:32:26Speaker 6: Yeah, can watch this all be wrong and it's just
- 1:32:29Speaker 6: she's in some random movie where like the fuck is
- 1:32:31Speaker 6: this shit? Right? Speaking of movies, I meant to watch
- 1:32:36Speaker 6: the trailer earlier, but apparently the trailer for the Rocks
- 1:32:41Speaker 6: new movie the one where he plays the the MNMA Fighter.
- 1:32:45Speaker 6: Apparently that trailer dropped today and m some people have
- 1:32:48Speaker 6: speculated that he's actually does a damn good job in
- 1:32:52Speaker 6: the film. I even heard the old word be put
- 1:32:55Speaker 6: out there by somebody.
- 1:32:57Speaker 9: Oh.
- 1:32:58Speaker 6: That one. Yeah please, Yes, I saw somebody say that
- 1:33:10Speaker 6: this could potentially be we could potentially see his first
- 1:33:15Speaker 6: big Old nomination. Yeah.
- 1:33:18Speaker 5: I have not watched the trailer yet.
- 1:33:20Speaker 6: Obviously this is TVD in very very early speculation, but.
- 1:33:26Speaker 8: I think Bautista is the best actor out of all
- 1:33:28Speaker 8: of them.
- 1:33:31Speaker 2: Bootista blue blue, He's no longer blue. Yeah, that could
- 1:33:39Speaker 2: definitely be up to something like if you had to
- 1:33:43Speaker 2: rank on me, it be Boutista, and then by default
- 1:33:49Speaker 2: number two would still have to be uh, it would
- 1:33:52Speaker 2: have to be Dewey. But John Cena's canting. Like if
- 1:33:56Speaker 2: I think if season two of Peacemaker is doing a
- 1:33:59Speaker 2: very like does another knockout job, then I would actually
- 1:34:03Speaker 2: put him over the top because I've.
- 1:34:05Speaker 9: Been moving more ranged than Danne does.
- 1:34:09Speaker 2: Yeah, but you entertain me more well, entertained me more
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: on that on those movies like even like doing like
- 1:34:16Speaker 2: the Little Slapstick like straight to video movies. But now
- 1:34:20Speaker 2: they're straight to Amazon Prime. Like the Ricky Staniki. It's
- 1:34:23Speaker 2: a crazy movie and no one would actually want to
- 1:34:25Speaker 2: see it, but it's pretty hilarious to me.
- 1:34:29Speaker 5: I heard it was pretty funny.
- 1:34:30Speaker 6: But here's the one thing, though, that The Rock has
- 1:34:32Speaker 6: over both of them. He can carry a movie as
- 1:34:36Speaker 6: a lead. John Cena has not done that yet, neither
- 1:34:40Speaker 6: has Batista, whereas The Rock has been the lead in
- 1:34:45Speaker 6: films that have done numbers.
- 1:34:48Speaker 11: And look how I'm gonna bring it back. Do you
- 1:34:50Speaker 11: guys ever see the movie That Condemned? Do you know
- 1:34:53Speaker 11: who's in the movie The Condemned? We didn't talk.
- 1:34:55Speaker 6: About We need to talk about what he did with
- 1:35:00Speaker 6: that fucking four wheeler.
- 1:35:02Speaker 2: Like, dude, he hit the barricade.
- 1:35:07Speaker 7: Okay, I watched it multiple times. This fucking lady's overreacting, overreacting.
- 1:35:13Speaker 7: He didn't hit her. First of all.
- 1:35:15Speaker 11: I saw he Uh he went way. He missed the
- 1:35:18Speaker 11: rimp entirely.
- 1:35:20Speaker 5: And uh it took so long to come back, Yeah.
- 1:35:23Speaker 11: Because we were wondering, like why is this music just
- 1:35:25Speaker 11: taken forever? Yeah, dude, he goes around the turn and
- 1:35:33Speaker 11: he he hits He goes past the commentary table and
- 1:35:36Speaker 11: he hits the barrier.
- 1:35:37Speaker 7: Right. The lady just falls back.
- 1:35:41Speaker 11: You know, it doesn't hit her, doesn't hurt her, doesn't
- 1:35:44Speaker 11: damage the barrier. You know, it has those led lights
- 1:35:47Speaker 11: l D lights.
- 1:35:48Speaker 7: Didn't you know, explode or nothing? You know, like, yeah,
- 1:35:53Speaker 7: it still worked. So I mean so I don't understand,
- 1:35:57Speaker 7: like it's just overreacting. I guess.
- 1:36:01Speaker 11: Former I got something here. Former WW writer Vince Russo
- 1:36:04Speaker 11: thanks the female fan who got hurt by Stone Cold
- 1:36:07Speaker 11: Steve Austin's ATV can sue the stadium, ww t K
- 1:36:13Speaker 11: and Stone Cold Steve Austin.
- 1:36:14Speaker 7: For hurting her.
- 1:36:15Speaker 11: I swear to god, I'm like, Bro, he's whipping around
- 1:36:20Speaker 11: that ring way too fast. I swear, Bro, you can
- 1:36:23Speaker 11: definitely tell it's him because he says bro up as
- 1:36:25Speaker 11: soon as I said that.
- 1:36:27Speaker 7: Wham. I gotta tell you, man, not for anything. If
- 1:36:30Speaker 7: that girl has a lawyer, whoa bro. We are suing
- 1:36:35Speaker 7: the arena, we are suing the WW We're suon TKO,
- 1:36:38Speaker 7: we are suing Stone Cold Steve Austin. Bro. Oh my god.
- 1:36:41Speaker 7: Bro Russas said on the Wrestling Binge that I did
- 1:36:45Speaker 7: not insert any bros.
- 1:36:47Speaker 2: That was How many more bros do you think would
- 1:36:54Speaker 2: have been added to that bro.
- 1:36:57Speaker 11: Imagine hit an interview between him and Matt Riddle. I mean,
- 1:37:00Speaker 11: you know what I mean, jeez. I I remember listening
- 1:37:04Speaker 11: to one of his podcast and I just I couldn't
- 1:37:07Speaker 11: do it because of how many bros.
- 1:37:09Speaker 7: I was like, dude, how old are you? How old
- 1:37:11Speaker 7: are you?
- 1:37:12Speaker 2: All right?
- 1:37:15Speaker 8: But yeah, down there talking to her like must sarious.
- 1:37:22Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah man.
- 1:37:23Speaker 5: I mean he's the president of the company.
- 1:37:24Speaker 6: You know.
- 1:37:25Speaker 5: He immediately jumped into anti lawsuit motive.
- 1:37:27Speaker 11: Yeah, he saw he saw like a green shirt guy
- 1:37:30Speaker 11: situation where this lady and get hurt.
- 1:37:32Speaker 7: She's gonna end up going to every fucking show.
- 1:37:35Speaker 6: So I mean, that'd be a small price to pay
- 1:37:38Speaker 6: one last.
- 1:37:40Speaker 7: To deal with Steve Austin run over my fucking leg
- 1:37:43Speaker 7: any day I can sit down and watch.
- 1:37:46Speaker 6: Yeah, you get wrestlemating tickets for life, don't sue us? Okay,
- 1:37:51Speaker 6: easy choice.
- 1:37:53Speaker 2: Take you out the next year.
- 1:37:55Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, right, there is.
- 1:37:57Speaker 6: What Yeah, you guys, he wasn't the h That wasn't
- 1:38:06Speaker 6: the only case of vecular manslaughter that happened that weekend,
- 1:38:09Speaker 6: because there was also another clip that went around, uh
- 1:38:13Speaker 6: after WrestleMania of Dominic the stereo riding in the golf
- 1:38:17Speaker 6: cart yere else around the arena and they actually ran
- 1:38:22Speaker 6: them motherfucker over. Yeah, that one was worse, right, like.
- 1:38:26Speaker 5: They actually made contact with the human and hit him.
- 1:38:30Speaker 7: Ben Russo wasn't talking about that one.
- 1:38:32Speaker 9: Bro.
- 1:38:34Speaker 6: Right, we want to worry about some little dumb as
- 1:38:36Speaker 6: woman that would didn't sit her ass down.
- 1:38:38Speaker 5: It was a little too close to the rail.
- 1:38:39Speaker 6: Granted, stoke Co was probably drunk as fuck or he
- 1:38:42Speaker 6: was damned and whipping that thing hard. I saw it
- 1:38:44Speaker 6: like when he was doing it and he was whipping
- 1:38:46Speaker 6: it around, like yo, he's whipping that thing around fastest ship.
- 1:38:50Speaker 5: I was just like, you know, okay, he's got the space.
- 1:38:54Speaker 5: He does this. You know, he does the ATV.
- 1:38:55Speaker 6: Racing thing now, so I'm like, okay, he can handle,
- 1:38:57Speaker 6: he's got control. Then he went back for that second
- 1:39:00Speaker 6: lap and he's whipping that thing and also bamn, I
- 1:39:02Speaker 6: was like, oh well.
- 1:39:03Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, like, uh, you know, the man guy
- 1:39:09Speaker 11: ducked in the Hall of Fame again this year, he's
- 1:39:11Speaker 11: probably having a couple of beers back there. It's wrestle
- 1:39:13Speaker 11: Mania with the boys. I mean, I get it.
- 1:39:17Speaker 2: He's gonna hang with Brett Hart and you know when
- 1:39:19Speaker 2: you're hanging with Brett Hart. You you gotta come ready
- 1:39:22Speaker 2: to party that you.
- 1:39:24Speaker 6: Next time we see Stone Cold. Though he walked his
- 1:39:26Speaker 6: ass to that ring a TV privileges have been taken away.
- 1:39:35Speaker 7: Since he got back there, went over, took the keys
- 1:39:38Speaker 7: out of and give that right.
- 1:39:40Speaker 5: Just hand me the keys.
- 1:39:41Speaker 11: Load back on the trailer. We're putting it in the warehouse.
- 1:39:45Speaker 11: We're retiring it.
- 1:39:48Speaker 5: Right that it's going to it's going to the headquarters.
- 1:39:51Speaker 6: It'll be in the museum next year at w W
- 1:39:55Speaker 6: World in New Orleans.
- 1:39:57Speaker 3: Hey.
- 1:39:57Speaker 11: You know what, though, that was a better better wrestle
- 1:40:00Speaker 11: media moment than him stunning Vince because that one is
- 1:40:04Speaker 11: still sour in my mind thinking about that one. So
- 1:40:06Speaker 11: so cold in the past few years has made up
- 1:40:08Speaker 11: for that shitty stunner. We got to see Hi Wressell,
- 1:40:10Speaker 11: Kevin Owens. I mean you got to see him smashing
- 1:40:13Speaker 11: a TV.
- 1:40:14Speaker 7: So cool, typical. I hope next ything else crazy.
- 1:40:23Speaker 6: Yeah, all that remains is the main event, Cody Rose
- 1:40:28Speaker 6: versus John c for the w w E Championship. Well undisputed.
- 1:40:35Speaker 6: They still holding on to that. You even though they
- 1:40:37Speaker 6: finally dropped the universal.
- 1:40:40Speaker 5: And this match was not as good as the main
- 1:40:44Speaker 5: event from Night one. This is what I meant what
- 1:40:47Speaker 5: I said night one.
- 1:40:48Speaker 6: Night two was the opposite of Night one, because Night
- 1:40:50Speaker 6: one was a bunch of you know, a lackluster i'll
- 1:40:55Speaker 6: say undercard with a phenomenal made event.
- 1:40:59Speaker 5: Yeah two was.
- 1:41:01Speaker 6: A much better undercard with a very lackluster main event.
- 1:41:08Speaker 6: I'm just gonna fly out saying this made event fucking sucked. Yeah,
- 1:41:13Speaker 6: it fucking sucked. Like the match was mediocre. And then
- 1:41:19Speaker 6: while this match is already mid and not really getting
- 1:41:22Speaker 6: you know, you know, you basically watching this match like, Okay,
- 1:41:26Speaker 6: they're going through the motions, Johnson's whooping, Cody's ass, You're
- 1:41:28Speaker 6: waiting for the comeback, You're waiting for the interference.
- 1:41:30Speaker 5: That's anever the media happened. And then we finally get to, you.
- 1:41:33Speaker 6: Know, the third act of the match, where okay, shit's
- 1:41:35Speaker 6: gonna pick up and we're working to us to finish,
- 1:41:38Speaker 6: and what the fuck do we get fucking Travis Scott
- 1:41:43Speaker 6: coming to the ring, which okay, yeah saw that coming,
- 1:41:47Speaker 6: knew it was gonna happen, but him just strutting his
- 1:41:49Speaker 6: little lowly ass down to the ring, taking his little
- 1:41:52Speaker 6: sweet ass fucking time like, sir, you ain't that guy
- 1:41:54Speaker 6: damn important. Put some fucking hustle in your step. Get
- 1:41:57Speaker 6: your ass in that damn ring. We're tired here in
- 1:41:59Speaker 6: this little fucking fiend sal that we've been listening to
- 1:42:02Speaker 6: you since damn January. Get your ass in the ring,
- 1:42:06Speaker 6: get your lick, take your lick back from Cody that
- 1:42:08Speaker 6: we know was coming, and let's move on to this ship.
- 1:42:13Speaker 6: We really wanted that. We really care about who else
- 1:42:16Speaker 6: is going to come out? You know, let's get to
- 1:42:18Speaker 6: the ship. We really came here to see the rock.
- 1:42:20Speaker 6: Is he gonna come out? Are we gonna see Paul
- 1:42:22Speaker 6: Hayman come back? Says something? And we got none of that.
- 1:42:27Speaker 6: We got none of that shit. We got John Cena
- 1:42:33Speaker 6: cracking Cody with the belt at a three pound, three count.
- 1:42:36Speaker 6: Johnsena is our new champion seventeen times fucking Really, that's it,
- 1:42:44Speaker 6: you know, That's all the fucking give us for night
- 1:42:47Speaker 6: to a WrestleMania Now, yeah, now I get it. Obviously,
- 1:42:51Speaker 6: last year was the equivalent of endgame for WWE. So
- 1:42:55Speaker 6: just like with the MCU, everything can't be in game
- 1:42:58Speaker 6: after n game, right, yeah, he.
- 1:43:03Speaker 3: Well it was.
- 1:43:05Speaker 8: There was rumors that like the scene that they the
- 1:43:08Speaker 8: scene of heel turn happened early, was supposed to happen
- 1:43:11Speaker 8: at WrestleMania, so it was supposed to be faced versus face.
- 1:43:15Speaker 8: And that makes a lot of sense because they didn't
- 1:43:17Speaker 8: even have these graphics ready for him until WrestleMania. He
- 1:43:20Speaker 8: comes out with just the black screen and just says
- 1:43:23Speaker 8: John Cena and that's it, which kind.
- 1:43:27Speaker 9: Of says to me, they weren't ready for it when
- 1:43:29Speaker 9: it happened.
- 1:43:30Speaker 8: By the way, did you catch the production lady in
- 1:43:33Speaker 8: the background kind of runs out after John Cena and
- 1:43:36Speaker 8: moves something and then it's behind a pole and thinks
- 1:43:39Speaker 8: she's out a camera, but she's not. She's still sitting there.
- 1:43:43Speaker 8: But like, I think that this was just so haphazard
- 1:43:47Speaker 8: thrown against the wall, like they should have said the rock.
- 1:43:51Speaker 9: Wasn't gonna be there maybe or whatever. I mean, I
- 1:43:54Speaker 9: guess they never said that he would be there.
- 1:43:56Speaker 5: He said he was not going to be a part
- 1:43:58Speaker 5: of WrestleMania.
- 1:43:59Speaker 9: Yeah, but who believes that exactly?
- 1:44:01Speaker 5: That's part of the problem.
- 1:44:03Speaker 6: First used to be why too that no matter what
- 1:44:07Speaker 6: anybody would have said, we wouldn't believe it.
- 1:44:08Speaker 2: Yeah, Remember, Trey was all about that rock wouldn't have
- 1:44:11Speaker 2: time to be a wrestleming of forty because he'll be
- 1:44:14Speaker 2: launching the USFL and XFL and he would have made
- 1:44:18Speaker 2: it and guess what he made it. So maybe Drey
- 1:44:22Speaker 2: should have kept talking about how the Rock wasn't gonna
- 1:44:25Speaker 2: have time to appeariod wrestleming forty one, and he probably
- 1:44:27Speaker 2: showed up despite him exactly.
- 1:44:30Speaker 6: I was the one that was firmly in the camp
- 1:44:32Speaker 6: that he wasn't going to be a part of forty
- 1:44:34Speaker 6: and that motherfucker worked both nights.
- 1:44:36Speaker 8: But now, like the soul stealing or soul selling makes
- 1:44:39Speaker 8: no sense, uh, Like why on earth is anyone afraid
- 1:44:43Speaker 8: of Travis Scott?
- 1:44:45Speaker 9: Like why is he a threatened anyway physically? Like I
- 1:44:49Speaker 9: could see if it was like method Man maybe or something.
- 1:44:52Speaker 8: He's built like a linebacker, but then he's also like
- 1:44:54Speaker 8: fifty something now, you know, Like but.
- 1:44:57Speaker 9: It's like, why does Travis Scott spread?
- 1:45:02Speaker 2: You know?
- 1:45:02Speaker 9: Like, oh it was just a fucking mess. Uh? John
- 1:45:07Speaker 9: Cena call on spots as usual.
- 1:45:10Speaker 8: Oh yeah, you know, he didn't think it was gonna
- 1:45:13Speaker 8: be omega Ocada.
- 1:45:14Speaker 9: I don't think going into this, but.
- 1:45:16Speaker 8: It was just slow and deliberate, and Michael Cole is
- 1:45:19Speaker 8: watching some other match because.
- 1:45:21Speaker 9: He's saying, oh, the fans are booming Johnsana. No, they're
- 1:45:24Speaker 9: fucking not. The cheering for John Tanna.
- 1:45:27Speaker 6: Right, every time he got off his they were cheering.
- 1:45:31Speaker 9: It's just like, what the fuck? It was just a mess,
- 1:45:35Speaker 9: just a.
- 1:45:35Speaker 11: Mess, you know, Like when I was thinking of Johnsena
- 1:45:39Speaker 11: getting his seventeenth you know, world title run, you know,
- 1:45:43Speaker 11: I think when he was getting to like thirteen, I
- 1:45:47Speaker 11: started to fantasize about it, like, oh, maybe he might
- 1:45:50Speaker 11: do it, you know, like maybe we'll do it. Maybe
- 1:45:52Speaker 11: they'll pull the trigger. And then, you know, for the
- 1:45:54Speaker 11: we had that huge gap where he didn't have, you know,
- 1:45:57Speaker 11: another world title.
- 1:45:58Speaker 7: So I never thought it would happen. But in my
- 1:46:00Speaker 7: mind I saw it completely different.
- 1:46:03Speaker 6: You know.
- 1:46:04Speaker 7: Uh I didn't definitely didn't see Cody. I saw Rick
- 1:46:10Speaker 7: Flair having pardon it somehow. But this is years ago.
- 1:46:13Speaker 7: I thought about this, but not like this, not like this.
- 1:46:19Speaker 11: You know, it is weird seeing Johnson to come out
- 1:46:21Speaker 11: just black shoes. He's got the black arm bands, he's
- 1:46:25Speaker 11: got black everything, and just the Georges you know, uh,
- 1:46:29Speaker 11: no colorful, Yeah, no, colorful fruity pebbles ship. Apparently we
- 1:46:38Speaker 11: bullied him into getting his bald spot fixed. So you know,
- 1:46:41Speaker 11: he got hair plugs just like Randy Orton did. Good
- 1:46:45Speaker 11: for him.
- 1:46:47Speaker 2: Where does Randy have hair plugs.
- 1:46:48Speaker 11: At Randy used? It was a long time ago he
- 1:46:53Speaker 11: got hair plugs in. It was right after around the
- 1:46:57Speaker 11: time after remember when he used to shave his head.
- 1:47:00Speaker 2: Shave it like like shave it, shaved all the way
- 1:47:05Speaker 2: down like he started picking it.
- 1:47:07Speaker 11: And then yeah, he got hair plugs in at one
- 1:47:10Speaker 11: point because they were really obvious. Uh you know an
- 1:47:14Speaker 11: HD TV man, I gotta find him anyway. Uh yeah,
- 1:47:19Speaker 11: I see all the spots Johnson is calling. Man, I'm
- 1:47:22Speaker 11: watching this this on mute. Yeah, you see him. It's
- 1:47:26Speaker 11: funny how you don't hear him as much as you
- 1:47:28Speaker 11: see them when you're watching it on mute. I'm just
- 1:47:30Speaker 11: seeing seeing it, just like just calling the whole fucking match.
- 1:47:35Speaker 11: Uh yeah, And Dre, you're right man. As soon as
- 1:47:38Speaker 11: seeing him get any kind of offense, the fucking you know,
- 1:47:41Speaker 11: the crowd loved it. Uh But yeah, dude, how about
- 1:47:45Speaker 11: like no, the thing with John seen it is every
- 1:47:51Speaker 11: year he would come out with his WrestleMania entrance would
- 1:47:54Speaker 11: be very unique.
- 1:47:55Speaker 6: You know.
- 1:47:57Speaker 7: Sometimes they'd be big and elaborate when he would main
- 1:48:00Speaker 7: event you know, WrestleMania. But this year, no, man, it's
- 1:48:05Speaker 7: just the down and dirty.
- 1:48:08Speaker 11: Like I don't even remember if he uh, if he
- 1:48:12Speaker 11: had anything in the background, like his video packaging, Like
- 1:48:15Speaker 11: he just had like a black black screen.
- 1:48:17Speaker 6: It was just a black screen that just said John Cena.
- 1:48:20Speaker 11: Yeah, actually watch it now. Yeah, how about that? Like
- 1:48:24Speaker 11: that's totally.
- 1:48:26Speaker 6: I think that works for his character. Now is a hell?
- 1:48:29Speaker 2: I mean he does.
- 1:48:32Speaker 9: He's starting to turn hell. I think because they weren't ready.
- 1:48:35Speaker 9: I think they rushed it.
- 1:48:36Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, Yeah, I agree.
- 1:48:38Speaker 6: I think the original plan probably was for this to
- 1:48:42Speaker 6: happen at WrestleMania, but they wound up pushing the schedule
- 1:48:47Speaker 6: forward and if the rockets to be believed based upon
- 1:48:50Speaker 6: his interview on the Pat McAfee show that Monday, which
- 1:48:54Speaker 6: apparently did not go over well, the decision was made
- 1:48:59Speaker 6: to a certain extent at the beheads of Ari Emmanuel,
- 1:49:03Speaker 6: who is the head of TKO, because, as the Rock claimed,
- 1:49:10Speaker 6: Ari em Manuel reached out to him because sales for
- 1:49:13Speaker 6: no Way Out, I mean not no Way Out Elimination
- 1:49:16Speaker 6: Chamber were I guess lagging or a bit below expectations,
- 1:49:23Speaker 6: so they needed something to boost the sales numbers.
- 1:49:26Speaker 5: So supposedly, according.
- 1:49:28Speaker 6: Again according to the Rock, Ari e Manuel reached out
- 1:49:30Speaker 6: to him asked the Rock to come in and help
- 1:49:34Speaker 6: boost the numbers, which led to the whole Cody, I
- 1:49:38Speaker 6: want your Soul segment, which in turn then led to okay, well,
- 1:49:42Speaker 6: if they're gonna do this, and Cody didn't want to
- 1:49:46Speaker 6: do the hill turn, then they pitched it to John
- 1:49:49Speaker 6: and John agreed. Then I guess to do the hill
- 1:49:51Speaker 6: turn now, as opposed to what was probably the original
- 1:49:56Speaker 6: pant of doing it at WrestleMania. And then now, well shit,
- 1:50:01Speaker 6: this is all moved up now, and now we gotta
- 1:50:03Speaker 6: scrabble and figure out. Okay, so seen as a hell,
- 1:50:05Speaker 6: now what's his interest is gonna look like? And all
- 1:50:07Speaker 6: this that and third now, now, so what's the WrestleMania
- 1:50:09Speaker 6: gonna look like? And then the Rock decides as he says,
- 1:50:14Speaker 6: let's make this all about John and Cody, keep it
- 1:50:16Speaker 6: focused on them. But and so he opted to not
- 1:50:21Speaker 6: participate in WrestleMania or do anything with WrestleMania because he
- 1:50:25Speaker 6: wanted the story to be focused on them, But motherfucker,
- 1:50:29Speaker 6: you're the rock.
- 1:50:30Speaker 9: Yeah, now everyone's focused on you not being there.
- 1:50:33Speaker 5: Right, You're the rock.
- 1:50:35Speaker 6: This whole shit started because of you, this whole thing
- 1:50:42Speaker 6: the heel turned. You gave the signal to John to
- 1:50:46Speaker 6: turn heel. John didn't decide that himself. It was all
- 1:50:50Speaker 6: started because of you. And then for you to just
- 1:50:53Speaker 6: back out and not give any payoff on that, that
- 1:50:55Speaker 6: was a gross miscalculation on their part. I think it
- 1:50:58Speaker 6: was a miscalculation to do the hill turn so early. Yes,
- 1:51:02Speaker 6: it got people talking, Yes, it got buzzed. Yes, it
- 1:51:04Speaker 6: did help build up anticipation for this match, so it
- 1:51:08Speaker 6: accomplished that goal.
- 1:51:10Speaker 5: But then you completely fumbled on the payoff.
- 1:51:14Speaker 6: And in light of how they how, the fact that
- 1:51:17Speaker 6: they bungled the payoff, they they dropped the ball there,
- 1:51:21Speaker 6: it almost leads you to believe that they probably should
- 1:51:23Speaker 6: have just stuck with their original play.
- 1:51:25Speaker 5: Yeah, kept a face on.
- 1:51:27Speaker 6: Face and then do the Hill turn to wrestlemedia, because
- 1:51:29Speaker 6: at least then guess what we'd all be talking about now,
- 1:51:32Speaker 6: Guess where all the headlines would have been. John cedon
- 1:51:34Speaker 6: w was the seventeen title at WrestleMania turns heel.
- 1:51:37Speaker 8: Yeah, and they could have still had a mediocre match
- 1:51:40Speaker 8: and it would have been fine because no one will
- 1:51:41Speaker 8: remember it, because no one will give a shit because
- 1:51:44Speaker 8: all they'd be talking about was John Cena and turning
- 1:51:46Speaker 8: Hill after the Yeah, right, that's what all the headlights
- 1:51:48Speaker 8: would be climax to the match maybe or whatever whatever
- 1:51:51Speaker 8: it happened, however it happened.
- 1:51:53Speaker 6: Yeah, And you could have done John Cena Hill turn
- 1:51:56Speaker 6: without the rocket. He could have never been a part
- 1:51:58Speaker 6: of it, so we wouldn't have had that anticipation for
- 1:52:00Speaker 6: and the story would have been about Cody and Cina,
- 1:52:04Speaker 6: and those two could have easily built up hype for
- 1:52:07Speaker 6: their match just as babyfaces and just made it purely
- 1:52:11Speaker 6: about you know, competitiveness, And they could have still cut
- 1:52:15Speaker 6: harsh promos on each other, you know, you know, blurring
- 1:52:19Speaker 6: the lines a little bit, digging at each other a
- 1:52:21Speaker 6: little bit. Maybe not as viciously as they did it
- 1:52:24Speaker 6: as heels, but they could have still gone at each
- 1:52:27Speaker 6: other m And we could have had a big match
- 1:52:30Speaker 6: with two faces and a whole lot of hype, and
- 1:52:32Speaker 6: then that heel turn would have happened, and you know,
- 1:52:36Speaker 6: maybe one we would have been spared, fucking Travis Scott
- 1:52:39Speaker 6: wouldn't have to deal with that motherfucker, And yeah, h
- 1:52:42Speaker 6: all our clock right now would have been like, holy shit,
- 1:52:44Speaker 6: John Cena finally turned heel and that would have been
- 1:52:47Speaker 6: the lasting memory of WrestleMania instead of what it is now.
- 1:52:53Speaker 7: Johnsena was smiling when Traviscock came out the way he
- 1:52:57Speaker 7: was smiling, it was like, you're so fucked Cody one
- 1:53:00Speaker 7: hundred and seventy pounds. Travis Scott's coming out to deal
- 1:53:02Speaker 7: with you.
- 1:53:04Speaker 8: Yeah, the hard Why why would anyone be staring at
- 1:53:08Speaker 8: Travis Scott.
- 1:53:09Speaker 7: I wonder if, like.
- 1:53:12Speaker 5: At the ramp and started stopping his ass out.
- 1:53:14Speaker 7: If like that was maybe what the Rock was supposed
- 1:53:17Speaker 7: to come out and do instead of Travis Scott. Like
- 1:53:20Speaker 7: it would have been way more of an impact if
- 1:53:21Speaker 7: the Rocks music would have hit instead of Travis Scott.
- 1:53:24Speaker 6: And it would have been more impactful if the Rock
- 1:53:26Speaker 6: would have or if the Rock would have came out afterwards. Yeah, So, like,
- 1:53:30Speaker 6: like I knew Travis Scott was going to be involved
- 1:53:32Speaker 6: at some point because they kept talking about Cody was
- 1:53:35Speaker 6: gonna Cody saying he was going to get his receipt
- 1:53:37Speaker 6: back for you know, Travis slapping the ship out of
- 1:53:39Speaker 6: him elimination chamber. So I knew that that was probably
- 1:53:43Speaker 6: gonna happen at wrestle Mania, So I expected a Travis
- 1:53:45Speaker 6: Scott running. I just expected more beyond that.
- 1:53:51Speaker 7: Yes, we expected more from you.
- 1:53:56Speaker 6: We expected more from you, Paul that mad point. Yeah,
- 1:54:02Speaker 6: this is probably going to be remembered as when ranking WrestleManias,
- 1:54:07Speaker 6: this is definitely going to be in the bottom half.
- 1:54:10Speaker 5: I think.
- 1:54:14Speaker 6: It ain't the worst, but it's it ain't one of
- 1:54:18Speaker 6: the best either, And I don't even think it's going
- 1:54:20Speaker 6: to qualify as one of the goods. I think it's
- 1:54:22Speaker 6: going to be somewhere right in the middle or a
- 1:54:24Speaker 6: little bit at the and the lower half of WrestleManias.
- 1:54:30Speaker 6: There were some good matches in here, but overall this
- 1:54:34Speaker 6: was just a overall it's a disappointment. And then when
- 1:54:37Speaker 6: you factor in all the other things like the exsergs
- 1:54:40Speaker 6: ticket prices, the somewhat lower sales or lower than expected sales,
- 1:54:47Speaker 6: and all the other talk of all the other things
- 1:54:50Speaker 6: that they didn't have the greatest media week. But also,
- 1:54:56Speaker 6: like we said, this has been the money mania more
- 1:54:59Speaker 6: so than story. You know, you know, Becky taking Bailey's spot. Yeah,
- 1:55:06Speaker 6: I think people are not going to look back on this.
- 1:55:08Speaker 6: Wrestle Media remember it.
- 1:55:09Speaker 11: Finally, Yeah, I have here, It says Wrestlingia forty one
- 1:55:15Speaker 11: drew a record breaking one hundred and twenty four and
- 1:55:18Speaker 11: ninety three fans across two nights at the stadium in
- 1:55:22Speaker 11: Las Vegas, making it the largest gate in WWE history.
- 1:55:27Speaker 6: Allegedly.
- 1:55:28Speaker 7: Yeah. The event was also the most viewed wrestling of
- 1:55:32Speaker 7: all time, with viewership up one and fourteen percent from
- 1:55:35Speaker 7: last year's WrestleMania record.
- 1:55:38Speaker 6: Well, it's a relation of numbers.
- 1:55:40Speaker 9: The ticket prices or suspense.
- 1:55:43Speaker 6: Yeah dollars. Yeah, Dallas can always be attributed to absurdly higher,
- 1:55:48Speaker 6: much higher ticket prices. The viewing numbers that can be
- 1:55:52Speaker 6: attributed to the fact that, as they stated, this was
- 1:55:55Speaker 6: the first WrestleMania that was broadcast simultaneously around the world,
- 1:56:02Speaker 6: as opposed to I guess in the past it may
- 1:56:04Speaker 6: have been staggered out in the past depending on platform
- 1:56:09Speaker 6: or location. This one was broadcast at the same time
- 1:56:13Speaker 6: around the world to everyone Peacock in the US or
- 1:56:18Speaker 6: well because of their deal with Netflix, so outside of
- 1:56:21Speaker 6: the US, it aired on Netflix around the world at
- 1:56:24Speaker 6: the exact time, same time. So of course those streaming
- 1:56:28Speaker 6: when you do pull that off, Yes, your streaming numbers
- 1:56:30Speaker 6: are going to be unprecedentedly higher than before.
- 1:56:35Speaker 8: But it's like, I don't want to hear about how
- 1:56:37Speaker 8: much money you made when you're giving me a shitty
- 1:56:39Speaker 8: main event.
- 1:56:41Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, yeah, nobody wants to hear about how
- 1:56:43Speaker 6: much money you made when the show itself was lacking.
- 1:56:47Speaker 6: And nobody wants to hear about how much money you
- 1:56:50Speaker 6: made when all the stories going into it have been
- 1:56:53Speaker 6: How much more expensive everything is that this year.
- 1:57:01Speaker 2: That's interesting that you guys are really shitting on this match.
- 1:57:07Speaker 2: I mean because I'm just looking at my notes and
- 1:57:09Speaker 2: I'm like, like, overall, I give this WrestleMania combined like
- 1:57:13Speaker 2: Night one, Night two like a B minus, right, am
- 1:57:17Speaker 2: I to me, my favorite night ended up being Night
- 1:57:20Speaker 2: two for you know, EO actually retaining Dom winning. You know,
- 1:57:27Speaker 2: we got the surprise of Joe Hendry in there and
- 1:57:34Speaker 2: which we never thought would actually happen. They and I
- 1:57:38Speaker 2: was actually you know, even though we all probably saw
- 1:57:40Speaker 2: it coming, but John Cena winning. But it's just like
- 1:57:43Speaker 2: the whole, like the whole trajectory of where this is gone.
- 1:57:49Speaker 2: You know, John Cena hadn't won a pay per view
- 1:57:54Speaker 2: or singles match or a title or anything for like
- 1:57:58Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen something like that. So to actually have
- 1:58:03Speaker 2: him actually win the seventy title that he's been trying
- 1:58:06Speaker 2: to win for the past seven eight ish years and
- 1:58:10Speaker 2: to only happen because he sold his soul to the Rock,
- 1:58:15Speaker 2: I think it was pretty good. Like the match itself
- 1:58:17Speaker 2: is terrible, but the storyline to me, over the overall
- 1:58:22Speaker 2: build of the character of John Cena and how he
- 1:58:25Speaker 2: has just allowed to get a seventy title, I think
- 1:58:28Speaker 2: it's a little bit more of a payoff of this match.
- 1:58:31Speaker 2: That's just right.
- 1:58:33Speaker 5: I hear what you're saying.
- 1:58:34Speaker 6: I do.
- 1:58:35Speaker 5: I hear what you're saying, but I can't.
- 1:58:38Speaker 6: I don't know if we can still run with the
- 1:58:39Speaker 6: storyline that he sold his soul to the Rock where
- 1:58:41Speaker 6: we haven't seen the Rock since the Elimination Chamber and yeah,
- 1:58:47Speaker 6: and not even really yeah, and I even brought up
- 1:58:49Speaker 6: that just seems like just a dropped plot thread. There's
- 1:58:54Speaker 6: been no follow up since then. And and I'm not
- 1:58:59Speaker 6: saying that the WrestleMania was all bad now I know,
- 1:59:03Speaker 6: means whatsoever Yeah. To me, the best match of the
- 1:59:06Speaker 6: entire show was EO Skot Bianca and Ripley and rear
- 1:59:09Speaker 6: Ripley in the triple threat. To me, that was the
- 1:59:12Speaker 6: best match of both knights. That was a standout and
- 1:59:16Speaker 6: like we talked before, probably arguably one of the greatest
- 1:59:19Speaker 6: women's matches in WrestleMania history.
- 1:59:22Speaker 5: Definitely, that was a great moment.
- 1:59:24Speaker 6: Dominic mysterio win in an IC title to a huge
- 1:59:27Speaker 6: pop from the fans.
- 1:59:28Speaker 5: Great moment, Joe Hendry, great moment.
- 1:59:34Speaker 6: That's probably it from night I mean, Becky Lynch returning
- 1:59:38Speaker 6: getting the pop, I didn't you know, didn't move the
- 1:59:41Speaker 6: needle for me, but I know it's a It was
- 1:59:42Speaker 6: a good moment, but that moment to me has been
- 1:59:46Speaker 6: kind of ruined by how they booked it since then
- 1:59:49Speaker 6: and no, and also because it came at the expense
- 1:59:51Speaker 6: of Bailey, so.
- 1:59:54Speaker 5: That moment is a is a negative for me.
- 1:59:59Speaker 6: Night one obviously, jay Usso becoming World Heavyweight Champion, great moment.
- 2:00:04Speaker 6: M Jacob Patu, we are becoming us champion, great moment,
- 2:00:10Speaker 6: and the main event was a great moment, was great.
- 2:00:15Speaker 6: That's it.
- 2:00:17Speaker 2: I mean two nights, I got fourteen matches, six matches
- 2:00:21Speaker 2: or six moments if you like the whole matches out
- 2:00:25Speaker 2: of fourteen, that's a little bit.
- 2:00:28Speaker 9: Throw the TLC on there.
- 2:00:30Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely should have thrown there.
- 2:00:35Speaker 8: I think you canna make a pretty good one one
- 2:00:37Speaker 8: night card out of this weekend.
- 2:00:40Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have had eight matches on one and
- 2:00:43Speaker 2: for both nights. Get those those The TLC I think
- 2:00:47Speaker 2: for sure needed to be on there. If you're gonna
- 2:00:49Speaker 2: have the Raw Tag Team Championship, you gotta have the
- 2:00:52Speaker 2: Smike down Tach Team Championship if you even like, why
- 2:00:56Speaker 2: do you bother to create the US title for the
- 2:00:59Speaker 2: women's or the IC title for the women if they're
- 2:01:01Speaker 2: not going to go on there and actually defend them.
- 2:01:03Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, the Raw Tag Team
- 2:01:08Speaker 6: match just did not need to happen. Like WrestleMania, There
- 2:01:11Speaker 6: was no reason for that match to be on the card,
- 2:01:14Speaker 6: especially in light of the TLC match.
- 2:01:20Speaker 9: Game. That's why that match happened a WrestleMania.
- 2:01:22Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, because people with money paid. Yeah, that's wrestling,
- 2:01:29Speaker 6: not at all, Not at all. And if the concern
- 2:01:34Speaker 6: was that we don't want the TC match to potentially
- 2:01:38Speaker 6: overshadow the main event, I don't know if I believe
- 2:01:41Speaker 6: that per se, because that's never been a fear before. Like, yeah,
- 2:01:48Speaker 6: you know, they weren't worried about you know, TLC from
- 2:01:51Speaker 6: wrestleming in seventeen overshadowing Stole Cold in the Rock. Mm hmm,
- 2:01:57Speaker 6: So why would they be worried about street profits? D
- 2:02:00Speaker 6: I Y and MotorCity machine Guns overshadowing Cody Rose and
- 2:02:05Speaker 6: John Cena or seth Rollins, Roman Reigns and see him
- 2:02:09Speaker 6: punk to me that that that argument doesn't make sense.
- 2:02:14Speaker 6: It just seemed to scream completely a money decision. And
- 2:02:21Speaker 6: like you said, Doll, that's not that's not the good way.
- 2:02:24Speaker 6: That's not a proper way to run a company. If
- 2:02:26Speaker 6: you're putting money ahead of the product.
- 2:02:30Speaker 9: It's gonna catch eventually.
- 2:02:32Speaker 6: Yeah, that's not a good sign and it doesn't bode well.
- 2:02:37Speaker 8: But I mean, yeah, if this wasn't a vacuum whatever,
- 2:02:40Speaker 8: But it's not, because it's all this advertising all over everything,
- 2:02:44Speaker 8: and it's commercial after commercial after, you know, and it's
- 2:02:48Speaker 8: clearly becoming just a money making adventure and not a
- 2:02:52Speaker 8: entertain me venture.
- 2:02:54Speaker 6: Now, the only question I would the only thing I
- 2:02:56Speaker 6: could remotely say, maybe n W W e's defense is
- 2:02:59Speaker 6: that this might be coming from above them. This could
- 2:03:05Speaker 6: some of the stuff could be t KO decisions being
- 2:03:07Speaker 6: forced upon w w E. Sure that obviously they have
- 2:03:11Speaker 6: a parent company and a boss above them that they
- 2:03:14Speaker 6: do have to answer to.
- 2:03:16Speaker 9: Yeah, that's that. Yeah, that's them now though.
- 2:03:22Speaker 6: But yeah, but yeah, I'm not saying that. Yeah, I'm
- 2:03:24Speaker 6: not saying that to let WWE off the hook. But
- 2:03:28Speaker 6: that could be a not too well voting sign of
- 2:03:34Speaker 6: the future. M h So, I think there's some other
- 2:03:38Speaker 6: stories that have come out since then that also are
- 2:03:42Speaker 6: not really hope inspiring. I have to think I saw
- 2:03:47Speaker 6: our beloved story about our beloved music producers deef Rebel.
- 2:03:51Speaker 5: Apparently now they are.
- 2:03:54Speaker 6: Set to start doing entrance music for UFC nowt anymore. Yeah,
- 2:04:04Speaker 6: as opposed to you know, normally in the past UFC
- 2:04:07Speaker 6: guys came out to licensed music. Apparently now us deaf
- 2:04:12Speaker 6: Rebel will be making music for them in a cost
- 2:04:15Speaker 6: cutting measure maneuver from t k O, again putting money
- 2:04:22Speaker 6: ahead of the product.
- 2:04:24Speaker 7: Mm hmm, Well, gentlemen, I guess that wraps upstating night
- 2:04:31Speaker 7: review see.
- 2:04:35Speaker 6: The Summer Slam and they're forty thousand dollars front seats.
- 2:04:38Speaker 7: Yes, let me drop some news for you guys quick
- 2:04:42Speaker 7: and then we'll talk about raw.
- 2:04:45Speaker 12: I have a news bumpers, Well, I got new for you.
- 2:05:03Speaker 5: Who flash?
- 2:05:04Speaker 7: All right, not as much news because.
- 2:05:10Speaker 9: I'm gonna I'm gonna. I'm gonna hop off guys. All right,
- 2:05:15Speaker 9: all right, a pleasure like page. See me on h
- 2:05:20Speaker 9: on the discord there and uh we will see you again.
- 2:05:24Speaker 6: Have fun the rest of the way, guys, all right,
- 2:05:26Speaker 6: doll later, all the best to look to lose.
- 2:05:29Speaker 9: Okay, take it easy.
- 2:05:42Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages,
- 2:05:45Speaker 7: welcome back. It's this little promo I have to give one.
- 2:05:51Speaker 7: You know what it's gonna be about. Yeah, just sit
- 2:05:54Speaker 7: here and listen. You made it this far into the show.
- 2:05:57Speaker 7: What we're gonna talk about is something very important. It's
- 2:06:00Speaker 7: social media. Why aren't you more of the Twitter page,
- 2:06:04Speaker 7: the Instagram page, our Facebook page, joint share and you
- 2:06:11Speaker 7: know what you get in there. We'll send you a
- 2:06:14Speaker 7: link to the discord. What's the discord? It's where you
- 2:06:17Speaker 7: can talk to us all day about wrestling, not just that.
- 2:06:22Speaker 11: How about you go to our website podcast Shamish your
- 2:06:26Speaker 11: wrestling one dot.
- 2:06:27Speaker 7: Com where you can leave her you not just you,
- 2:06:32Speaker 7: or you can write into the show you kind of question,
- 2:06:36Speaker 7: We'll answer it for you. But it doesn't stop there.
- 2:06:40Speaker 7: Oh no, If it doesn't, we offer so much more.
- 2:06:44Speaker 7: Do you want to be on the show? Do you
- 2:06:47Speaker 7: want to shoot the ship with Dre Doyle and be
- 2:06:51Speaker 7: a guest music? He is like, oh, but it doesn't
- 2:06:57Speaker 7: stop there. Guys say you gotta go parstl dot com
- 2:07:04Speaker 7: and buy a piece of right. We don't have one,
- 2:07:09Speaker 7: we don't have two. I thank god, we don't have three,
- 2:07:15Speaker 7: but we do have.
- 2:07:16Speaker 9: Four four get T shirts.
- 2:07:22Speaker 7: Plain guys, So what the hell do you have made it?
- 2:07:27Speaker 7: This mark? Are you a man or one? Are you
- 2:07:30Speaker 7: a fucking mark? Can tell them? Times running out? All right,
- 2:07:55Speaker 7: all right, guys, here's what I got news left and
- 2:07:56Speaker 7: I have just annow today Carmela and Corey Grace are
- 2:08:01Speaker 7: having their second child together.
- 2:08:04Speaker 6: That's cool, nice congratulations yep uh.
- 2:08:09Speaker 7: Bron Breaker wants to spear Travis Scotton half get in
- 2:08:13Speaker 7: line logan. Paul says he will vomit if he hears
- 2:08:16Speaker 7: another song called Fien Fien Fien again. He will vomit.
- 2:08:23Speaker 11: All of us will did you guys know that the
- 2:08:25Speaker 11: Rock received twelve point five million dollars from WWE last year.
- 2:08:33Speaker 2: Nice easyunk options.
- 2:08:36Speaker 7: Something fun fact. In twenty ten, John Cena beat Cody Roads.
- 2:08:45Speaker 11: In twenty thirteen, John Cena beat Cody Roads. In twenty
- 2:08:51Speaker 11: fifteen as when he was Stardust, John Cena beat Cody Roads,
- 2:08:57Speaker 11: and in twenty twenty five seen it yet again.
- 2:09:02Speaker 7: Rhodes. I saw that little stat like before WrestleMania, and
- 2:09:07Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, man, they're on something.
- 2:09:15Speaker 6: Like I said, I'm sure Cody will get that final
- 2:09:19Speaker 6: victory over John Cena before it's all said and done,
- 2:09:22Speaker 6: because even though Sena is the champion now, as I
- 2:09:25Speaker 6: said in our pre show, uh in our Wrestlemated preview,
- 2:09:29Speaker 6: I do think Cody is gonna be the one to
- 2:09:31Speaker 6: take the title off of John Cena.
- 2:09:35Speaker 2: Now, is this before he goes here or we? I
- 2:09:38Speaker 2: mean face.
- 2:09:41Speaker 6: Think I think it's gonna be your baby face Sina,
- 2:09:43Speaker 6: I mean our baby face Cody. I don't. I don't
- 2:09:46Speaker 6: think Cody's gonna come back turn heel and you know,
- 2:09:50Speaker 6: defeat a heel Sena or out hel Sina. I think
- 2:09:56Speaker 6: Sina will still be a heel doing whatever Cody will
- 2:10:00Speaker 6: come back as a babyface. Given how these fick glass
- 2:10:05Speaker 6: fucking fans have been acting in twenty twenty five, He'll
- 2:10:07Speaker 6: see how they react to it.
- 2:10:10Speaker 5: But the only way I can see, the only way
- 2:10:13Speaker 5: I can see.
- 2:10:14Speaker 6: Cody coming back and winning the championship as a heel
- 2:10:18Speaker 6: is if the fans just flat out boo the fuck
- 2:10:20Speaker 6: out of him.
- 2:10:22Speaker 5: Is if he comes back to challenge John.
- 2:10:24Speaker 6: Cena and it is blatantly clear and obvious that the
- 2:10:29Speaker 6: crowd is pro Sena and anti Cody, and then which
- 2:10:33Speaker 6: forces WWE force the creative to have to pivot and
- 2:10:37Speaker 6: somehow turn Cody into the heel and revert Sena back
- 2:10:41Speaker 6: to a babyface sooner than they expect, and have Cody
- 2:10:46Speaker 6: become the heel champion. That's the only way I see
- 2:10:49Speaker 6: it happen. But other than that, no, Sena will still
- 2:10:53Speaker 6: be the heel. Cody will be the face returning to
- 2:10:57Speaker 6: save wrestling, to save the belt from being retired by Cina.
- 2:11:06Speaker 7: Mm hmmmm, I got one more thing I want to
- 2:11:12Speaker 7: talk to you guys about news. I don't know if
- 2:11:14Speaker 7: you guys saw this anywhere on social media. Eric Bischoff
- 2:11:18Speaker 7: and Hulk Hogan are teasing a mystery third man.
- 2:11:21Speaker 11: For their new project. Their new project is going to
- 2:11:25Speaker 11: be it seems it might be a podcast, so that
- 2:11:29Speaker 11: they said. Eric Bischoff says, this is so badass. You
- 2:11:33Speaker 11: people know who we are, we have You have no
- 2:11:37Speaker 11: idea what we're about. We're back, Hulkster, we are so back.
- 2:11:43Speaker 11: And Hogan said, we changed the world one time, but
- 2:11:47Speaker 11: now we're here to wake them up. We're here to
- 2:11:51Speaker 11: slice and dice the world of wrestling, and you're not
- 2:11:53Speaker 11: gonna know what hit you. Regarding the mystery third man,
- 2:11:58Speaker 11: Bischoff said, should we talk about the his credentials? Should
- 2:12:00Speaker 11: we talk about all of his championships?
- 2:12:04Speaker 7: Should we talk about the world class athletes that he
- 2:12:07Speaker 7: has brought to the very top of this point? Should
- 2:12:11Speaker 7: we talk about that?
- 2:12:12Speaker 6: No, not yet.
- 2:12:15Speaker 7: Do you guys have any idea who it could be?
- 2:12:18Speaker 11: The only other person I think this podcast swabi is
- 2:12:22Speaker 11: Kevin Nash, But I don't think he's.
- 2:12:24Speaker 7: The third man. I mean, he has won.
- 2:12:26Speaker 2: Kevin Nash probably would not want to be anywhere near
- 2:12:30Speaker 2: l Cogan because of the whole Trump thing, and that
- 2:12:35Speaker 2: would probably just pissed the Money'll probably actually try to
- 2:12:38Speaker 2: jackknife power Bottom somewhere, so like who who we.
- 2:12:42Speaker 7: Think it could be the third man for the show
- 2:12:45Speaker 7: and who gets along with these guys.
- 2:12:46Speaker 6: Still, for the purposes of full disclosure, let me first
- 2:12:51Speaker 6: things first say that I give zero fus about whatever
- 2:12:56Speaker 6: the fuck Ul Hogan and Eric Binshoff we're about to do.
- 2:12:59Speaker 6: But if we're gonna speculate about who the third person
- 2:13:02Speaker 6: would be and all that stuff, I would guess Rick.
- 2:13:06Speaker 7: Flair, Oh shit, that would be.
- 2:13:11Speaker 2: If actually keep his attention for that long, because not
- 2:13:14Speaker 2: even the son in law, Conrad, could obtain Rick to
- 2:13:17Speaker 2: actually record his episodes for his podcast.
- 2:13:22Speaker 6: But I mean, if they're gonna talk about, you know
- 2:13:24Speaker 6: who the third person is, and we talked about all
- 2:13:26Speaker 6: the championships they've won in all the world class YadA YadA, Like,
- 2:13:28Speaker 6: if they're gonna put that type of hype behind a
- 2:13:30Speaker 6: third man quote unquote, who would it be?
- 2:13:34Speaker 5: That would be?
- 2:13:35Speaker 6: That would warrant that one would possibly do it And
- 2:13:39Speaker 6: to be a name worthy of that level of hype
- 2:13:43Speaker 6: to even remotely give a shit about the only.
- 2:13:46Speaker 5: Person I could think it would be Rick Flair.
- 2:13:48Speaker 7: That's that's wild, because think of the wild not just
- 2:13:51Speaker 7: the wild stories or three of them are gonna tell
- 2:13:53Speaker 7: but like the fact that none of it is gonna
- 2:13:56Speaker 7: either be true or it's just wild fucking bullshit.
- 2:13:59Speaker 11: I'm just I'm gonna keep my ear to the ground
- 2:14:01Speaker 11: because I want to know. Because Hogan just says the
- 2:14:04Speaker 11: wildest ship nowadays, and Bischoff, anytime he gets cornered, he
- 2:14:08Speaker 11: just goes, oh, I it was so long ago, I
- 2:14:10Speaker 11: don't remember it, uh do. I used to listen to
- 2:14:13Speaker 11: Bischoff's podcast all the time. Anytime he got like cornered
- 2:14:17Speaker 11: with a question, he would just you know, play old
- 2:14:20Speaker 11: man so. And then Rick Flair is fucking senile at
- 2:14:24Speaker 11: this point, so anything that man fucking says is fucking
- 2:14:27Speaker 11: hilarious to me.
- 2:14:28Speaker 2: What it was Goldberg?
- 2:14:32Speaker 6: That what?
- 2:14:37Speaker 11: I don't know, But Goldberg pulls me enough to like
- 2:14:41Speaker 11: want to listen to him. Does he sound like a
- 2:14:43Speaker 11: personality for even a fucking podcast.
- 2:14:47Speaker 6: I don't know, episode for an ongoing podcast, if that's
- 2:14:52Speaker 6: what this is, I don't I couldn't see him doing
- 2:14:54Speaker 6: an ongoing thing.
- 2:14:56Speaker 7: True, an episode, yes, ongoing? No, that's an other thing.
- 2:15:00Speaker 7: You're right, longevity, this isn't just one episode till one
- 2:15:04Speaker 7: of these passes away.
- 2:15:07Speaker 6: And also given that if if Goldberg is set to
- 2:15:10Speaker 6: be back on WWE television anytime soon. I highly doubt
- 2:15:15Speaker 6: ww is gonna want him doing something that they don't
- 2:15:18Speaker 6: have control over. With Bischoff and Hogan, I.
- 2:15:24Speaker 7: Totally forgot to argue with Doyle about the whole Goldberg situation.
- 2:15:28Speaker 7: That's cool, it's cool.
- 2:15:31Speaker 2: The stok that two more weeks until you have to
- 2:15:33Speaker 2: do the back Latch previews, so put a pin on it.
- 2:15:38Speaker 6: Right, We will have plenty of time to talk about
- 2:15:41Speaker 6: Gunter for Backlash.
- 2:15:44Speaker 7: Do you guys want to talk about You want to
- 2:15:46Speaker 7: talk about Raw? Like the after Mania?
- 2:15:49Speaker 11: How it was the role I wish I fucking went to.
- 2:15:54Speaker 11: You know last year my voice was shot, dude.
- 2:15:58Speaker 5: After Mania was better than both nights of WrestleMania.
- 2:16:02Speaker 7: Okay, so we're we're talking versus Stephanie Valkyre.
- 2:16:10Speaker 6: Stephanie Vicaire VICTI.
- 2:16:12Speaker 7: Yeah, So, I mean that was a great fucking match.
- 2:16:15Speaker 7: And I mean, like they they've the past like two weeks,
- 2:16:19Speaker 7: they've had NXT Superstars, the Champions on the show and
- 2:16:23Speaker 7: they've been put on hell of a match.
- 2:16:28Speaker 6: Well officially now Roxanne Perez and Julia are on Raw.
- 2:16:34Speaker 6: They've officially they've been called up now so they're their
- 2:16:37Speaker 6: main roster now. Finally Stephanie Vicuaer obviously still the NXT champions.
- 2:16:41Speaker 6: So yes, it is kind of surprising that they've had
- 2:16:44Speaker 6: her work matches the last two weeks on Raw. Like
- 2:16:46Speaker 6: I said with EO nine one, which I'm surprised they
- 2:16:50Speaker 6: let them work as long as they did. I thought
- 2:16:53Speaker 6: it was gonna be like, you know, some quick tease
- 2:16:55Speaker 6: match but not give anything away, and we were gonna
- 2:16:57Speaker 6: get a quick run in, but now they let them
- 2:16:58Speaker 6: go for at least two or three segments before we
- 2:17:01Speaker 6: got the run in from uh Julia and roxa band.
- 2:17:06Speaker 6: And then this past week she got to work a
- 2:17:08Speaker 6: full on, a full length match with uh.
- 2:17:15Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, so we we got that. We got.
- 2:17:22Speaker 11: We got a little bit further in the story of
- 2:17:24Speaker 11: Logan Paul, I mean at Logan Paul carrying cross and
- 2:17:27Speaker 11: a j styles, we got Gunter, uh you know, uh
- 2:17:31Speaker 11: beating the ship out of choking out Pat McVie, making
- 2:17:36Speaker 11: Michael Colmos fucking piss himself and then tell people, you.
- 2:17:41Speaker 7: Know, I want to get back to work because I'm
- 2:17:43Speaker 7: not afraid of bullies.
- 2:17:47Speaker 9: Uh.
- 2:17:47Speaker 11: We we had Dominic versus Penta, which for the Icy
- 2:17:52Speaker 11: title and you know what, as much as I thought
- 2:17:54Speaker 11: like this is gonna be you know, Dom could easily
- 2:17:57Speaker 11: lose this, you know, real quick, and no, I was
- 2:18:01Speaker 11: like some sneaky, sneaky and you got the pin in.
- 2:18:04Speaker 11: I was like, all right, let's keep this gone man
- 2:18:06Speaker 11: like some if let's go for a lengthy I see title.
- 2:18:11Speaker 7: Run with with Dom, I'm all for it.
- 2:18:13Speaker 2: This so.
- 2:18:16Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, retained with a frog splash. We had
- 2:18:21Speaker 11: the the fallout of Finn and Dom. Apparently it's just
- 2:18:27Speaker 11: water under the bridge, you know.
- 2:18:28Speaker 7: What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
- 2:18:31Speaker 4: Uh.
- 2:18:33Speaker 11: And then we uh, we get Seth Rollins coming out
- 2:18:39Speaker 11: with you know, we we get him coming out with
- 2:18:43Speaker 11: Paul Haymon. Uh, and then we get see him Punk
- 2:18:47Speaker 11: comes out, and then we get Roman Reins.
- 2:18:51Speaker 7: We get all these guys back in this ring again.
- 2:18:54Speaker 7: And well.
- 2:19:00Speaker 6: He got his ass, well he did get came out,
- 2:19:03Speaker 6: got the upper hand on Seth, Superman punched Paul Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 2:19:09Speaker 6: ready for Ready for the spear and then Seth.
- 2:19:14Speaker 7: Yeah, I like how Seth beat down Punk and then
- 2:19:16Speaker 7: he threw him out the ring before Roman got in.
- 2:19:18Speaker 7: But yeah, it's.
- 2:19:21Speaker 11: It was just it was just so happening so quickly
- 2:19:24Speaker 11: that I was kind I was very much caught off
- 2:19:26Speaker 11: guard by this man in a hoodie who speared the
- 2:19:29Speaker 11: ship out of Roman Reins. There's not many people I've
- 2:19:31Speaker 11: seen spear the ship.
- 2:19:32Speaker 7: Out of Roman Rains.
- 2:19:33Speaker 11: You know, I've seen I've seen Goldberg face, you know,
- 2:19:37Speaker 11: Roman Reigns. You know I've seen edge face, Roman Reins, Ah,
- 2:19:42Speaker 11: Bobby Lashley, but you know spear Wise, that nasty.
- 2:19:48Speaker 6: Hit hard.
- 2:19:50Speaker 5: I immediately thought Rhinos Back.
- 2:19:54Speaker 2: Would be that size, right right.
- 2:19:58Speaker 7: Right, Oh, I gloss over the whole beginning half of RAW.
- 2:20:05Speaker 7: I'm sorry. We also got the We talked about it earlier,
- 2:20:10Speaker 7: how the tag titles swapped hands again. They went back
- 2:20:14Speaker 7: to to to Lyra and Lilah Lyra and Becky lost
- 2:20:19Speaker 7: the titles and went back to live in Raquel. And
- 2:20:22Speaker 7: then that's when we got the heel turned from Becky,
- 2:20:26Speaker 7: which was awful. I thought it was awful because just
- 2:20:32Speaker 7: laid there like, stop kicking me.
- 2:20:35Speaker 1: I looked up to you, like, bitch, fight back, aren't
- 2:20:39Speaker 1: you the icy feel sad for you just sitting there
- 2:20:42Speaker 1: wearing an ass whooping when you feel like she crippled
- 2:20:45Speaker 1: you or anything.
- 2:20:46Speaker 6: You are perfectly capable of standing up and fighting back. Yeah,
- 2:20:50Speaker 6: you're just emotionally crippled now, and you're just gonna wear
- 2:20:52Speaker 6: this ass whooping like.
- 2:20:55Speaker 7: We Uh. We also got the Alpha canon was in
- 2:21:00Speaker 7: the ring. Uh and I forgure who who are they
- 2:21:04Speaker 7: in the ring with alf Academy. There was some heel taxic.
- 2:21:08Speaker 7: Oh new day, I think there's the new Day. But
- 2:21:11Speaker 7: then we get before the match starts, we had the
- 2:21:13Speaker 7: lights go out and then we get fucking erusive, and.
- 2:21:17Speaker 13: Man, I'll tell you what because I I you know,
- 2:21:20Speaker 13: I saw a little bit of him in a w
- 2:21:22Speaker 13: but you know, it kind of fell out a little
- 2:21:26Speaker 13: exactly a little bit.
- 2:21:28Speaker 7: He was injured a lot, right or he wasn't on
- 2:21:30Speaker 7: the rock the car. Yeah.
- 2:21:33Speaker 11: So but he looks great, man, he looks physically, he
- 2:21:36Speaker 11: looks fucking phenomenal. He cut a promo was it yet?
- 2:21:42Speaker 7: Was this role? Yeah?
- 2:21:45Speaker 9: Yeah?
- 2:21:46Speaker 5: It was a pretty.
- 2:21:50Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 2:21:50Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm going he's you know, he's gonna not gonna
- 2:21:53Speaker 11: be flying the flag that he used to have to
- 2:21:56Speaker 11: fly when when you know his former his older gimmick.
- 2:21:59Speaker 7: Now he's gonna be flying the was it the Bulgarian flag?
- 2:22:04Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 2:22:06Speaker 7: Mentioned Yeah, he mentions him He's like at one point,
- 2:22:09Speaker 7: like I rote into WrestleMania on.
- 2:22:12Speaker 11: A tank and like, you know, thinking back, like Russef
- 2:22:16Speaker 11: was like undefeated, you know, and then he got his
- 2:22:18Speaker 11: hands in the United States title, and you know he's right, man.
- 2:22:22Speaker 11: I always thought when he faced seen at WrestleMania, he
- 2:22:26Speaker 11: should have gone over as a heel, like he would
- 2:22:29Speaker 11: have retained that title and then his career have kept
- 2:22:32Speaker 11: going and Sena could have taken that l It did
- 2:22:35Speaker 11: that w did nothing for Sina, nothing, but it gave us.
- 2:22:39Speaker 2: That whole open challenge us run. But like I was
- 2:22:45Speaker 2: when I got this one for thirty five, I had
- 2:22:48Speaker 2: also mentioned that this really didn't help out.
- 2:22:53Speaker 5: Russev.
- 2:22:54Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was so hot with Russev Day and
- 2:22:57Speaker 2: he came out with a tank and all this other stuff.
- 2:23:00Speaker 2: He had all this pop and circumstance, and then you
- 2:23:04Speaker 2: have him lose to some guy I think at this
- 2:23:06Speaker 2: point he was was he still at fifteen? Yeah, Johnsen
- 2:23:10Speaker 2: is still stuck on the is around sixteen titles, So
- 2:23:15Speaker 2: I'm like, why would you have him come back and
- 2:23:17Speaker 2: win that title and then like the US title. Yeah,
- 2:23:21Speaker 2: it gave it some type of you know, gave us
- 2:23:25Speaker 2: some entertaining runs, and I guess it built up the
- 2:23:28Speaker 2: prestige a little bit more, but it completely tanked whatever
- 2:23:32Speaker 2: we saw happening with Russev at that point.
- 2:23:35Speaker 5: Look what all that prestige did for the US title.
- 2:23:37Speaker 7: Now highlight though it was the opener of the show.
- 2:23:45Speaker 7: Scena comes out, I mean, you know, right away, great
- 2:23:49Speaker 7: way to start to kick off Monday night or off
- 2:23:51Speaker 7: scene him music comes out, you know.
- 2:23:55Speaker 11: He explains that he's been told that his announcement was disrespectful,
- 2:24:00Speaker 11: and that he tells the ring announcer and introduce him
- 2:24:03Speaker 11: as John as the greatest of all time, the never
- 2:24:09Speaker 11: that never seen seventeen, gracing Las Vegas with his presence
- 2:24:13Speaker 11: for the last time, the last real champion.
- 2:24:16Speaker 7: John Cena. It's a fucking mouthful, but I do like
- 2:24:20Speaker 7: they never seen seventeen.
- 2:24:25Speaker 2: I like that he hands notes to the ring announcer.
- 2:24:29Speaker 2: Yeah right, that was like the third time he just
- 2:24:31Speaker 2: handed one over, like and he's like, just read this,
- 2:24:35Speaker 2: and then you know.
- 2:24:36Speaker 7: We get the asshole chance and he says the most
- 2:24:40Speaker 7: like goofiest Like I laugh when he said it.
- 2:24:43Speaker 11: You know, I might be an anis, but we're idiots.
- 2:24:48Speaker 11: And he's gotten back up from our best shots. Every
- 2:24:51Speaker 11: time he calls, he said he's an anis he couldn't
- 2:24:55Speaker 11: say ass.
- 2:24:58Speaker 7: Asshole he has. I guess that's John Cena.
- 2:25:01Speaker 2: He's being height tidy John Cena.
- 2:25:05Speaker 11: Yeah, he says, uh, what I did really like. He
- 2:25:10Speaker 11: mentions the tour dates that he has left. He says,
- 2:25:13Speaker 11: I have thirty six days, and he goes through them
- 2:25:17Speaker 11: all right, And as he's going through these days that
- 2:25:20Speaker 11: he's been at, the counter is counting down. We're going
- 2:25:23Speaker 11: down from thirty six days. Now we're down to twenty seven.
- 2:25:27Speaker 11: It's not matches, its appearances.
- 2:25:30Speaker 5: We seek.
- 2:25:32Speaker 7: Yeah, we say he can't wrestle, he doesn't have to,
- 2:25:36Speaker 7: and then that number hits zero.
- 2:25:38Speaker 11: He's done. He's taking the title with him. Oh we'll
- 2:25:43Speaker 11: get a new title belt, but he'll take that one
- 2:25:46Speaker 11: home with all of his history.
- 2:25:48Speaker 6: I think that was a good move to as far
- 2:25:51Speaker 6: as them like actually putting a number on the dates,
- 2:25:54Speaker 6: because now people are going to track that for the
- 2:25:57Speaker 6: rest of the year. I know, right, I love it.
- 2:26:00Speaker 6: Roll was twenty assuming that Raw was twenty seven. He
- 2:26:03Speaker 6: didn't appear on SmackDown this pH. He did appear on
- 2:26:06Speaker 6: SmackDown Y Friday. Yeah, that would have been twenty six.
- 2:26:11Speaker 6: He was back on Raw this yesterday, right, yeah, why
- 2:26:15Speaker 6: is it? Yeah? Yeah, Kim and Rady went freaking at
- 2:26:19Speaker 6: each other. That was Friday spack down when they went
- 2:26:21Speaker 6: at each other.
- 2:26:22Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah they went Monday before last
- 2:26:26Speaker 2: week is when he snuck up by him and did
- 2:26:29Speaker 2: last night.
- 2:26:29Speaker 6: No, he wasn't, no seen, It was not on Raw
- 2:26:31Speaker 6: last night, so it was just Friday. So Friday was
- 2:26:33Speaker 6: twenty six.
- 2:26:35Speaker 7: Okay, yeah. He says, all yes to you now is
- 2:26:38Speaker 7: play us and the best chance we have to save
- 2:26:41Speaker 7: us was Cody Rhodes. But last night he was outshine, outclassed,
- 2:26:46Speaker 7: out wrestled, and flat out destroyed. It's time for us
- 2:26:51Speaker 7: to look in the mirror as I do every day
- 2:26:53Speaker 7: because I'm hot as hell Johnny, and realize that nobody
- 2:26:58Speaker 7: in that locker rooms the strength, speed of ruthless aggression
- 2:27:03Speaker 7: as John Cena.
- 2:27:06Speaker 11: But unlike us, he has a heart and he'd like
- 2:27:09Speaker 11: to do something nice. He asked the crowd to get
- 2:27:11Speaker 11: out their cameras because they're gonna want to remember this moment.
- 2:27:15Speaker 11: He holds up the title so that they can get
- 2:27:18Speaker 11: a picture of the last real champ and out of nowhere,
- 2:27:23Speaker 11: Randy Orton gives him an RKO. Orton holds up the
- 2:27:27Speaker 11: title before placing on John Cena's unconscious body and posing.
- 2:27:32Speaker 7: In the turnbuckles. What a great role. You know, it
- 2:27:39Speaker 7: was just the opening of RAW. I kind of went
- 2:27:40Speaker 7: all over the place backwards for whatever. But I am
- 2:27:45Speaker 7: excited for this backlash feud between Sena and Orton. You know,
- 2:27:52Speaker 7: I recall a Backlash long ago. I wish I could
- 2:27:58Speaker 7: remember when it was. Now this is when Orton's a
- 2:28:01Speaker 7: heel seen as a face, and I believe Orton is
- 2:28:04Speaker 7: the champ at the time. As soon as that bell rings,
- 2:28:07Speaker 7: or In slaps the shit out of the ref and
- 2:28:11Speaker 7: he immediately gets disqualified and Johnson like los his title shot.
- 2:28:17Speaker 7: Like I thought that was clever shit at the time.
- 2:28:20Speaker 11: I think being years removed at Backlash yet again, and
- 2:28:25Speaker 11: these guys are in roles reversed, title isn't separate in
- 2:28:29Speaker 11: the opposite hand, even funny shit if Sina would do
- 2:28:34Speaker 11: that to slap the shit out of the ref.
- 2:28:36Speaker 7: Soon as that Matt starts de cute. Yeah, we got
- 2:28:39Speaker 7: the build up for this match, but now it's they
- 2:28:41Speaker 7: might they could drag out the summer slam. But I
- 2:28:45Speaker 7: don't know.
- 2:28:46Speaker 6: That would not be funny. It would be it would
- 2:28:48Speaker 6: be ironic. Yes, it would be storytelling. It would infuriate
- 2:28:52Speaker 6: the fun out.
- 2:28:52Speaker 5: Of everybody, not me.
- 2:28:54Speaker 7: I mean you, I guess I think so.
- 2:28:57Speaker 6: You really you think it wouldn't you tell me? You're
- 2:29:00Speaker 6: sitting at home Saturday night, what are you watching? They
- 2:29:05Speaker 6: just going into the main event. It's eleven o'clock at night.
- 2:29:08Speaker 6: You're ready for this main event? Ran New York and
- 2:29:11Speaker 6: John Cena for the last time that bell rings, he
- 2:29:13Speaker 6: slops the ship out of him.
- 2:29:14Speaker 2: Matches over, ship out of the ref, and the matches.
- 2:29:18Speaker 6: Right, slap out of the ref, matches over, and then
- 2:29:21Speaker 6: that's the end of the show.
- 2:29:23Speaker 2: They can't do that anymore. If they do, they can
- 2:29:26Speaker 2: pull that off if it was there was Vince only
- 2:29:30Speaker 2: like if they were independent and I had to answer
- 2:29:32Speaker 2: to Ari or any one of their sponsors or.
- 2:29:38Speaker 6: Press conference that they hold after all these.
- 2:29:40Speaker 9: P l e s.
- 2:29:42Speaker 2: But yeah, they that some you're gonna have to you
- 2:29:46Speaker 2: don't have to erase that from your for your mad
- 2:29:50Speaker 2: libs of fantasy booking pin because I don't think that's
- 2:29:52Speaker 2: ever gonna come back.
- 2:29:53Speaker 11: I know it's not but like could you imagine though,
- 2:29:56Speaker 11: like just the callback, Like, you know, I have no
- 2:29:59Speaker 11: idea what year that was. But but anyway, I still
- 2:30:03Speaker 11: at the end of the day, like these two.
- 2:30:04Speaker 7: Guys are very very close in and you know, achievements
- 2:30:09Speaker 7: in the career, both money in the bank winners, both
- 2:30:12Speaker 7: Royal Rumble winners, multiple money in the bank, multiple rumble winners,
- 2:30:17Speaker 7: multiple you know. You know, Sina held the nice States title,
- 2:30:22Speaker 7: Orton was an intercontinental title.
- 2:30:26Speaker 11: Did Wharton hold the Nicetys title ever? And if he did,
- 2:30:31Speaker 11: maybe he only held it once, but I don't think
- 2:30:33Speaker 11: he did. These guys both held various versions of the
- 2:30:37Speaker 11: tag titles. They've held undisputed titles, you know, two titles
- 2:30:43Speaker 11: at once. They even fought for two titles and Orton
- 2:30:47Speaker 11: came out on top. Last time I think that's the
- 2:30:51Speaker 11: last time they fought was when they emerged both titles together.
- 2:30:56Speaker 6: Yeah, Like obviously their careers are paralleled each other, you know,
- 2:31:01Speaker 6: neck and neck. You know, they they could easily be
- 2:31:04Speaker 6: an episode of w WEE Rivals and you know, there
- 2:31:07Speaker 6: will probably be a documentary done about Sena and Orton
- 2:31:13Speaker 6: the way they've done you know, Rock and Stone Cold, YadA, YadA,
- 2:31:16Speaker 6: they'll forever be linked together. Unfortunately, as much as people
- 2:31:22Speaker 6: are looking forward to seeing this match, and I'm looking
- 2:31:23Speaker 6: forward to seeing them again or seeing this match, but
- 2:31:28Speaker 6: really only for the purpose of just seeing Sena and
- 2:31:32Speaker 6: Orton one last time, because we know we know Orton's
- 2:31:36Speaker 6: not winning, and the match itself, I hope they can
- 2:31:43Speaker 6: pull off a good match and really make even if
- 2:31:47Speaker 6: the outcome is going to be predictable, I hope the
- 2:31:51Speaker 6: match itself is memorable and good. I'm somewhat nervous about
- 2:31:57Speaker 6: that because one thing I have noticed that I will
- 2:32:00Speaker 6: I wanted to touch on during the WrestleMania song. But
- 2:32:03Speaker 6: one thing I've noticed with seen of this year, he's
- 2:32:06Speaker 6: obviously working matches and working stuff. He's been working very
- 2:32:11Speaker 6: safely this year and for it to be his last year,
- 2:32:15Speaker 6: and you know, going out, you can tell he's still
- 2:32:19Speaker 6: definitely playing it safe so that he won doesn't injure
- 2:32:22Speaker 6: himself and put any of his Hollywood obligations at risk,
- 2:32:27Speaker 6: but also so that he doesn't injure himself and put
- 2:32:30Speaker 6: the rest of this year at risk, because he obviously
- 2:32:34Speaker 6: wants to be able to work all the dates and
- 2:32:36Speaker 6: work all the matches that they probably have mapped out
- 2:32:38Speaker 6: for him for this year. And if he you know,
- 2:32:41Speaker 6: goes too hard in a match and injures himself, especially
- 2:32:45Speaker 6: if god forbid, it's a significant injury like an a
- 2:32:48Speaker 6: like an ACL or something like that that puts him
- 2:32:50Speaker 6: out for the remainder of the year, then all this
- 2:32:53Speaker 6: goes to waste. And you've seen that in the matches
- 2:32:57Speaker 6: that he's works. Like I said, he's been playing it
- 2:32:59Speaker 6: very very safe in these matches. He's not really taking
- 2:33:05Speaker 6: as many bumps as he would think he would take,
- 2:33:09Speaker 6: and a lot of his offense is very safe. It's
- 2:33:15Speaker 6: the best way I can describe me. He's been working
- 2:33:17Speaker 6: very safe in these matches.
- 2:33:19Speaker 7: I mean, for a guy who has to who's going
- 2:33:22Speaker 7: to hold onto the title this long to be even
- 2:33:26Speaker 7: in the main event, to be a person who even
- 2:33:28Speaker 7: holds the titles a lot of responsibility.
- 2:33:31Speaker 11: But for you know, where his position is, like you know,
- 2:33:36Speaker 11: after this, he's got to go back to work. He's
- 2:33:38Speaker 11: going to go back to acting, and it's like I
- 2:33:39Speaker 11: can't get hurt.
- 2:33:41Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, like I said, that's what and especially
- 2:33:44Speaker 6: in as plays, why he's been working so safety, like
- 2:33:46Speaker 6: I said, because he has his Hollywood obligations, not just Postmania,
- 2:33:52Speaker 6: but Hollywood obligations throughout this year. Yeah, and then like
- 2:33:56Speaker 6: and he also has to maintain the he has maintained
- 2:34:01Speaker 6: itself for the sake of this remaining for the his
- 2:34:03Speaker 6: WWE dates this year.
- 2:34:07Speaker 7: So check this out. Oka ESPN just dropped tweet. Actually,
- 2:34:15Speaker 7: EASTPN projects John Cena's final matches in ww This is
- 2:34:20Speaker 7: just them guessing. John Cena defeats Randy Orton at Backlash
- 2:34:25Speaker 7: in May. Jay Uso defeats John Cena to retain the
- 2:34:31Speaker 7: World Heavyweight title at Money in the Bank in June.
- 2:34:35Speaker 7: John Cena defeats Sampunk at Saturday Night Main Event. In July,
- 2:34:43Speaker 7: John Cena and Travis Scott defeat Cody Rhoads and Bad
- 2:34:46Speaker 7: Bunny at SummerSlam.
- 2:34:48Speaker 9: August.
- 2:34:51Speaker 11: Joe Hendry defeats John Cena via d Q at TNA
- 2:34:55Speaker 11: Victory Road. September, John Cena defeats seth Rons and Roman
- 2:35:01Speaker 11: Reigns at Crown Jewel in November, and last, Cody Rose
- 2:35:06Speaker 11: defeats Johnson to become the undispeated champion at Saturday Night
- 2:35:10Speaker 11: Main Event in December.
- 2:35:14Speaker 2: Saturday Night's Main Event.
- 2:35:16Speaker 7: That's why I keeps saying, why why is why do
- 2:35:19Speaker 7: we have to go.
- 2:35:21Speaker 9: What?
- 2:35:22Speaker 6: Well, a couple of those matches are obviously bullshit because one,
- 2:35:26Speaker 6: jay Uso defeating Johnson and to retain the World Heavyweight Championship, No,
- 2:35:31Speaker 6: why what makes no fucking sense whatsoever lose his title
- 2:35:36Speaker 6: to you know what I mean, like right or unless
- 2:35:39Speaker 6: they think, unless they're thinking that's gonna be like a unification,
- 2:35:42Speaker 6: like Johnson is gonna try to unify both belts. So
- 2:35:44Speaker 6: he takes it all home, which makes no sense because
- 2:35:48Speaker 6: he's talking about taking home this belt because of its
- 2:35:51Speaker 6: legacy and all the champions that have held it in
- 2:35:54Speaker 6: the past. This World Heavyweight Championship that jay Usu has
- 2:35:57Speaker 6: has no legacy. It's not a call to Big Goal.
- 2:36:00Speaker 6: It's not a call back to the old World Heavyweight Championship.
- 2:36:05Speaker 6: It's just seth uh, seth Rollins, Drew McIntyre, Damian Priest, Gunter,
- 2:36:13Speaker 6: and jay Usso that's it. That's all legacy it has.
- 2:36:16Speaker 6: So it makes no sense for Senia to go after
- 2:36:18Speaker 6: that belt. So that match makes no sense. Cody defeating
- 2:36:21Speaker 6: John C. Sena at the end of the year at
- 2:36:25Speaker 6: Saturday Night made event makes no sense because haven't we
- 2:36:30Speaker 6: one don't we already know that like the last for
- 2:36:32Speaker 6: all of the year or something like that's gonna be
- 2:36:34Speaker 6: in Boston or something like that.
- 2:36:36Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that's what they were aiming to have him.
- 2:36:39Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So I don't I don't see his last
- 2:36:43Speaker 6: match being a Saturday. Well I won't say that. I could,
- 2:36:48Speaker 6: in theory, see his last match being a Saturday and
- 2:36:51Speaker 6: they made an event if w W really cares, or
- 2:36:55Speaker 6: if NBC Universal pushes w W to make the Saturday
- 2:37:00Speaker 6: Night main event shows something worth tuning in too, because
- 2:37:05Speaker 6: right now they've just been glorified showcases with no real
- 2:37:10Speaker 6: value or stakes. If the NBC Universal pushes ww to
- 2:37:15Speaker 6: say like, hey, look, stop giving us these glorified bullshit
- 2:37:18Speaker 6: showcase shows and give us something that's actually worth putting
- 2:37:22Speaker 6: on television, something that's actually worth it is gonna draw ratings,
- 2:37:27Speaker 6: then I could see them maybe doing that for the
- 2:37:30Speaker 6: end of the year and really building it up John
- 2:37:32Speaker 6: Cena's last match on Saturday Night main Event, and that's
- 2:37:36Speaker 6: where you tune it in, and that could potentially draw
- 2:37:39Speaker 6: a huge number for NBC. Sure, I can see that,
- 2:37:44Speaker 6: but that match is also not gonna happen with John
- 2:37:45Speaker 6: Cena as a heel either, So unless Cody was to
- 2:37:49Speaker 6: come back and turn Hell before then, and then John
- 2:37:55Speaker 6: Cena has his last match as a babyface defending the title,
- 2:37:58Speaker 6: which he loses. Maybe Also don't see John Cena going
- 2:38:02Speaker 6: out on a loss either. I don't think that's how
- 2:38:04Speaker 6: they wanted him to win. To end or you know,
- 2:38:09Speaker 6: his final WW match. I think it's gonna be a
- 2:38:12Speaker 6: match that he has with somebody. He wins, his music
- 2:38:16Speaker 6: plays out, he goes out celebrating with the fans in
- 2:38:20Speaker 6: his final goodbye. So it's not gonna be a title match.
- 2:38:23Speaker 6: Like I said, I think he drops the title well
- 2:38:25Speaker 6: before that. I think he'll probably stay at Hell, drop
- 2:38:29Speaker 6: the title to baby If he can remain a he'll
- 2:38:33Speaker 6: he'll drop the title to Babyface returning Cody Rhodes, and
- 2:38:37Speaker 6: then he may go away and then come back as
- 2:38:41Speaker 6: a baby face. Maybe the face turn happens in that match,
- 2:38:44Speaker 6: Like it's a good enough match where the fans cheer
- 2:38:46Speaker 6: him again afterwards, and then he comes back, does his
- 2:38:50Speaker 6: final couple of days as a babyface, gets the adulation
- 2:38:53Speaker 6: of the fans and goes out to big celebration. I
- 2:39:00Speaker 6: could see a triple threat happening between what they say
- 2:39:03Speaker 6: Senor Roman and.
- 2:39:04Speaker 5: Who crowns Crown?
- 2:39:08Speaker 7: Yeah, I see that.
- 2:39:10Speaker 5: I could maybe see it. I could see the saut
- 2:39:12Speaker 5: he's paying for that, pay for anything.
- 2:39:18Speaker 6: Yeah, you're definitely gonna get definitely getting seem Punk versus Johnsena.
- 2:39:22Speaker 6: That match is definitely happening when I don't know if
- 2:39:25Speaker 6: it's gonna be Saturday night main event. I could see
- 2:39:28Speaker 6: it maybe being a money in the bank match at
- 2:39:30Speaker 6: the main event of that show.
- 2:39:35Speaker 2: Ye clearly used AI even though they probably don't want
- 2:39:39Speaker 2: to admit it, because only a I would come up
- 2:39:41Speaker 2: with that those type of match.
- 2:39:44Speaker 11: That's so like, how the fuck do we get to
- 2:39:46Speaker 11: Jay Huso versus Johnson? Like come on, man, Like where
- 2:39:49Speaker 11: are we getting to haffle these It's such a short
- 2:39:51Speaker 11: amount of time, Like even I we can't write these
- 2:39:55Speaker 11: kind of stories.
- 2:39:57Speaker 2: It wouldn't make no sense, Like Dre just put it
- 2:40:00Speaker 2: out or laid out for us. So, yeah, I did
- 2:40:05Speaker 2: want to like come back to some things here. Yeah,
- 2:40:09Speaker 2: Randy did win one time, the US Championship. Oh and
- 2:40:15Speaker 2: then the second thing, I mistakenly said wrestling a thirty
- 2:40:19Speaker 2: five for the Tank and John Cena beating us. That
- 2:40:24Speaker 2: was wrestling a thirty one, right one, So ten years
- 2:40:30Speaker 2: ago I thought.
- 2:40:31Speaker 7: Or in healthy Nicies title. I knew it was like
- 2:40:33Speaker 7: only one time, but because I was like, oh, now
- 2:40:35Speaker 7: he's a true Grand Slam champion.
- 2:40:39Speaker 6: Yeah, so, oh he's not a Grand Slam champion because
- 2:40:42Speaker 6: he's not a Speed champion. Sorry, he was a.
- 2:40:48Speaker 2: Grand Slam champion before, and now he has to go
- 2:40:52Speaker 2: around for it again to get the Speed Championship.
- 2:40:57Speaker 7: Well, I remember Travis Scott also holds the Hardcore Championship apparently.
- 2:41:02Speaker 6: And you know he doesn't that's not a real championship
- 2:41:05Speaker 6: or needs.
- 2:41:07Speaker 11: Or needs to go over to NXT when that title.
- 2:41:10Speaker 11: You know, let's talk about SmackDown. Sena Orton prepared for
- 2:41:17Speaker 11: one last legendary encounter U S. Norton kickoff SmackDown on Friday,
- 2:41:22Speaker 11: and the conversation got into a bizarre start when Orton
- 2:41:25Speaker 11: was chalking up Seena's sour attitude to a lack of
- 2:41:28Speaker 11: maturity irony in that Orton claimed that having children would
- 2:41:33Speaker 11: open seen his eyes. Seen It retorted by.
- 2:41:35Speaker 7: Claiming that he was too busy raising the ww fans
- 2:41:39Speaker 7: kids for the last twenty five years.
- 2:41:42Speaker 11: And then that's when I said fair because I was
- 2:41:46Speaker 11: one of them. The most amusing part of the segment
- 2:41:51Speaker 11: came after Sena betrayed a six year old fan for
- 2:41:54Speaker 11: allegedly flipping him off. Once they moved on from Parenthood,
- 2:42:00Speaker 11: Seen It promised to retire as Undie Speed WW champion forever,
- 2:42:04Speaker 11: trapping Orton as a fourteen time world title champion. Seen
- 2:42:10Speaker 11: his logic is flawed considering WW has two recognized world titles.
- 2:42:18Speaker 11: Orton challenged Sena to a match, which Sena accepted under
- 2:42:21Speaker 11: the condition in which it takes place at Backlash.
- 2:42:25Speaker 7: The champion dropped Orton with a cheap shot, but the
- 2:42:28Speaker 7: viper came out on top with an r KAO. Also
- 2:42:33Speaker 7: what happened?
- 2:42:34Speaker 11: I just mentioned the other matches and stuff On SmackDown,
- 2:42:37Speaker 11: Faxium Phraxium defeated Los Garza, Angel and Berto. Tiffany Stratton
- 2:42:47Speaker 11: versus Jade Cargole ended into a note contest after Naomi
- 2:42:54Speaker 11: that horrible spot name we had with Jade and attacked
- 2:42:58Speaker 11: and then uh, Nijack's also returned. We were wondering for
- 2:43:03Speaker 11: a while, like, where the fuck was Nijack's at. Guess
- 2:43:06Speaker 11: she had some time off.
- 2:43:08Speaker 2: She had lots of time to work on her roast material.
- 2:43:12Speaker 7: Yeah, solo.
- 2:43:15Speaker 11: Socoa claimed responsibility for Jacob Fattou's success, drawing a volatile
- 2:43:23Speaker 11: reaction from the new United States Champion. Women's United States
- 2:43:30Speaker 11: Champion Selena Vega defeated Chelsea Green.
- 2:43:34Speaker 7: Well.
- 2:43:35Speaker 11: Chelsea Green was defeated by Selena Vega. Selena is finally
- 2:43:40Speaker 11: a title holder. It was announced that Chelsea Green is
- 2:43:46Speaker 11: taking some time off. I guess her also. Damian Priest
- 2:43:51Speaker 11: also requested time off, and.
- 2:43:54Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, you guys are running for a while,
- 2:43:57Speaker 7: so I get it. I think, yeah, it's great that
- 2:44:02Speaker 7: they finally are recognizing maybe Selena Vega's talent, and I
- 2:44:06Speaker 7: like that this is what maybe the mid card title
- 2:44:09Speaker 7: should be used for, you know.
- 2:44:11Speaker 4: Uh.
- 2:44:12Speaker 11: We also had uh Drew mc Drew McIntyre defeated La
- 2:44:18Speaker 11: Knight via disqualification after Damian Priest attacked McIntyre. McIntyre is
- 2:44:23Speaker 11: the number one contender for the United States Championship. Postmatch,
- 2:44:27Speaker 11: FO two laid out Night and Priest gentlemen, we had
- 2:44:32Speaker 11: a return. Alistair Black returned knocked out the miss with
- 2:44:40Speaker 11: the Black Mass. Alistair Black returned after w W after
- 2:44:44Speaker 11: a four year absence. It seems, you know, in the
- 2:44:52Speaker 11: past month or so, We've had five AW superstars come over.
- 2:44:58Speaker 6: We had.
- 2:45:00Speaker 7: Uh is his name, Ricky Stark, I want to say, yep,
- 2:45:08Speaker 7: we had him.
- 2:45:09Speaker 11: We have Penta, we have Ray Phoenix, we have Rusive
- 2:45:13Speaker 11: and Alistair Black. So we have people returning and we
- 2:45:17Speaker 11: have guys who are new.
- 2:45:20Speaker 7: It kind of feels like, uh, you know, like an
- 2:45:23Speaker 7: Avengers endgame when the Hulk snaps everybody back after the
- 2:45:27Speaker 7: past four or five years.
- 2:45:28Speaker 11: You know, all those contracts may AW run out. It
- 2:45:33Speaker 11: feels really feels like it was like, you know, not
- 2:45:36Speaker 11: too long ago that I recall you know, Rusive and
- 2:45:39Speaker 11: Alistair Black going over to AW and signing like a
- 2:45:42Speaker 11: four or five year contract, and I was like, man, like,
- 2:45:46Speaker 11: it's gonna be a while, so those contracts run out,
- 2:45:48Speaker 11: but I'm like, you know, hopefully they come back. And
- 2:45:52Speaker 11: you know, when Triple H took over and Vince stepped
- 2:45:55Speaker 11: down right away, that was the first thing I thought of,
- 2:45:58Speaker 11: was like, oh, you know, I mean, it's any company,
- 2:46:02Speaker 11: you know, if you didn't get along with the boss.
- 2:46:04Speaker 7: But then you find out like no, no, somebody else
- 2:46:06Speaker 7: is in charge. Now it's way better, you know, the
- 2:46:09Speaker 7: chance of overturn of people coming back, you know, it's
- 2:46:12Speaker 7: pretty high and we've seen that, you know.
- 2:46:15Speaker 6: And I mean especially if you're being underutilized in the
- 2:46:18Speaker 6: company that you went too. It's the proverbial case of
- 2:46:22Speaker 6: finding out that the grass isn't always greener on.
- 2:46:24Speaker 5: The other side.
- 2:46:25Speaker 6: Absolutely, because maybe you know, they weren't being used at
- 2:46:28Speaker 6: their best nwwe you know, whether it's missed opportunities, just
- 2:46:34Speaker 6: being poorly booked or what have you. So they thought
- 2:46:36Speaker 6: they would find better pastures over in AW, only to
- 2:46:40Speaker 6: find out that AW would use the even less.
- 2:46:45Speaker 5: They be even more under utilized.
- 2:46:47Speaker 6: Maybe less so with Alistair Black because he I guess
- 2:46:50Speaker 6: he did have a decent run for there for a
- 2:46:52Speaker 6: little while as Malachi Black and the whole House of
- 2:46:54Speaker 6: Black thing, but eventually that kind of ran its course
- 2:46:58Speaker 6: as well. I don't think he was fairly injured. I
- 2:47:02Speaker 6: think he had not that I paid the most attention
- 2:47:06Speaker 6: to the AW product.
- 2:47:08Speaker 7: But but how about like you know, Alistair Black and
- 2:47:12Speaker 7: slain eveya both getting you know, some spotlight and and
- 2:47:17Speaker 7: a win. You know, that's good for them. I like,
- 2:47:20Speaker 7: we're seeing when couples succeed. Uh.
- 2:47:24Speaker 11: Also, I didn't want to go ass over the main
- 2:47:27Speaker 11: event the w W Tag Team Championships. The Street Profits,
- 2:47:31Speaker 11: who were the champions, defeated Motor City Machine Guns and
- 2:47:35Speaker 11: d I I, retrieving the titles in a t LC match.
- 2:47:41Speaker 7: They also did the spot were very similar to l
- 2:47:46Speaker 7: C spot with his edge spearing somebody off.
- 2:47:51Speaker 5: Of the Jeff Jeff Hardy.
- 2:47:53Speaker 7: Yeah, they recreated it. I think it was a great match.
- 2:47:56Speaker 6: Uh, you know, go back and the Banker. Yeah, like
- 2:48:01Speaker 6: it was a legit banger match. It was like we've
- 2:48:04Speaker 6: said time and time again, this was the match we
- 2:48:07Speaker 6: should have had that WrestleMania. This match was absolutely phenomenal.
- 2:48:12Speaker 6: It was top notch. Everybody brought it in their matches and.
- 2:48:17Speaker 5: And it was it cooked. And I'm glad that the
- 2:48:20Speaker 5: Street Profits retained.
- 2:48:22Speaker 7: Yeah me too, me too. Yeah.
- 2:48:28Speaker 11: I mean that that's it for SmackDown. That's it for Raw,
- 2:48:31Speaker 11: that's it for I Got News. I don't know if
- 2:48:33Speaker 11: there's anything else do you guys want to touch.
- 2:48:34Speaker 6: On, Like, I mean, as far as SmackDown goes, uh,
- 2:48:41Speaker 6: like it was. I'm glad that Slonevega won the title,
- 2:48:45Speaker 6: the US title. I mean, I think she's been long overdue,
- 2:48:50Speaker 6: you know, people being who was underestimated her because of
- 2:48:52Speaker 6: her small size, and you know, she's probably the smallest
- 2:48:56Speaker 6: woman on the WWE roster, and I don't think it's
- 2:49:00Speaker 6: really that close, but being other small women have clearly
- 2:49:04Speaker 6: shown if you can go in the ring, then you
- 2:49:07Speaker 6: can get over and you can you know, have success.
- 2:49:10Speaker 6: And Selina Vega not saying she's you know, the greatest
- 2:49:14Speaker 6: in the ring, but she's more than.
- 2:49:16Speaker 5: Capable of working and she's finding she's.
- 2:49:22Speaker 6: Definitely well, i want to say, serviceable services kind of
- 2:49:25Speaker 6: like a little bit of a sneak disc but she's
- 2:49:27Speaker 6: more than capable in the ring of putting on good matches.
- 2:49:29Speaker 6: We've seen that from her in the past. And as
- 2:49:32Speaker 6: far as personality, she definitely has more personality in her
- 2:49:38Speaker 6: than a lot of women on the roster. She just
- 2:49:44Speaker 6: hasn't really been given much opportunity to use it or
- 2:49:47Speaker 6: to showcase it. But every time I've seen her in
- 2:49:50Speaker 6: stuff outside of WWE or anything like that, where she's
- 2:49:54Speaker 6: just allowed to be herself, Yeah, she's got fucking personality
- 2:49:57Speaker 6: for days. If she can find a way to you know,
- 2:50:02Speaker 6: and bring her personality that she naturally has and build
- 2:50:05Speaker 6: a character around it, she could definitely go far or
- 2:50:09Speaker 6: go further. But either way, I'm glad to see her
- 2:50:13Speaker 6: as the champion. I hope that this is not just
- 2:50:16Speaker 6: some bs where she has it this week and she
- 2:50:19Speaker 6: loses it again by the end of May. But good
- 2:50:26Speaker 6: for her.
- 2:50:27Speaker 5: Glad to see that the Orton seen a segment that
- 2:50:32Speaker 5: was good.
- 2:50:32Speaker 6: They were they were definitely going at each other, not
- 2:50:38Speaker 6: as hard as Cody and Sino were, but you can
- 2:50:41Speaker 6: tell that you know all their history of working together.
- 2:50:45Speaker 6: You can see they were bringing that to the table,
- 2:50:48Speaker 6: and just in terms of the sheer emotion that they
- 2:50:50Speaker 6: were throwing.
- 2:50:51Speaker 5: At each other. And like I said, and obviously the
- 2:50:55Speaker 5: main event was a banger.
- 2:50:58Speaker 2: Yeah, so Carlos feedback, Yeah, really don't have that much
- 2:51:06Speaker 2: more to add. Was a big fan of the EO
- 2:51:10Speaker 2: and Stephanie Va Caerre match and like everyone else, was
- 2:51:14Speaker 2: surprised that it went as for as long as it did,
- 2:51:16Speaker 2: just to have it be interrupted about the twelve or
- 2:51:20Speaker 2: thirteenth minute mark of that match, which why they did
- 2:51:26Speaker 2: the same thing when they had Naomi attacked Jade and
- 2:51:31Speaker 2: when she was having her match against Tiffany that just
- 2:51:38Speaker 2: baffles me, like, why would you play that whole stick
- 2:51:42Speaker 2: stick on? You know, back to back shows. We're gonna
- 2:51:47Speaker 2: run like ten minute plus matches and then someone will
- 2:51:50Speaker 2: finally come and interrupt it. So it's the only thing
- 2:51:54Speaker 2: that you know, like it seems like they just, you know,
- 2:51:57Speaker 2: weren't really focusing what to do. So they're like, well
- 2:52:01Speaker 2: this worked on Monday, let's just go ahead and do
- 2:52:03Speaker 2: it here.
- 2:52:04Speaker 5: I mean, it's the only way to protect talent.
- 2:52:05Speaker 6: Because no, no, I.
- 2:52:07Speaker 2: Understand that part, but I'm just like, why run it again,
- 2:52:11Speaker 2: like the same exact thing, Like find a different way
- 2:52:14Speaker 2: to do it, but or not have it go as
- 2:52:16Speaker 2: long and just have it be something that's right away.
- 2:52:19Speaker 2: But yeah, that was that's that we had. The only
- 2:52:29Speaker 2: other thing I wanted to talk about was the what
- 2:52:31Speaker 2: was it? Oh we didn't get any type of acknowledgment
- 2:52:41Speaker 2: of JD McDonagh. Guys didn't hear anyone if you guys
- 2:52:45Speaker 2: bring them up in this little recap. It's kind of weird.
- 2:52:48Speaker 5: That little big head motherfucker coming back.
- 2:52:53Speaker 6: Yeah, he back.
- 2:52:54Speaker 5: He's back for a bit of a pop.
- 2:52:56Speaker 2: And it looks like they they actually turned them against
- 2:52:59Speaker 2: Finn then they just I'm waiting for that little betrayal
- 2:53:03Speaker 2: that happened. So that's interesting.
- 2:53:06Speaker 5: They having they have a match they have.
- 2:53:08Speaker 2: A match for. They had the match for the with
- 2:53:11Speaker 2: the war Raiders. With the war Raiders, they lost that match.
- 2:53:15Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't.
- 2:53:18Speaker 5: I think we're gonna see a split.
- 2:53:21Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's obviously that they're not keeping Finn in
- 2:53:24Speaker 2: the loop. So the split has to be where JD
- 2:53:30Speaker 2: eventually has to also turn on Finn to be as
- 2:53:34Speaker 2: part of the group.
- 2:53:36Speaker 6: Yeah. But the problem with that though, is that if
- 2:53:39Speaker 6: everybody turns on Finn, then that positions Finn as presumably
- 2:53:44Speaker 6: the baby face because all the heels are turning against them,
- 2:53:48Speaker 6: but nobody's invested in Finn like that, So I don't
- 2:53:52Speaker 6: see where the payoff would be, Like, oh my god,
- 2:53:55Speaker 6: we kicked Fit out the Judgment Day, so.
- 2:53:59Speaker 5: I think I think there's a if.
- 2:54:01Speaker 6: I think there's a swerve coming, Like, either the swerve
- 2:54:06Speaker 6: is coming or there's going to be a pivot in
- 2:54:08Speaker 6: the storytelling, because clearly the only the only one person
- 2:54:12Speaker 6: in Judgment Day that gets face pops at this moment,
- 2:54:15Speaker 6: and that's Dom, And for my money, the more compelling
- 2:54:20Speaker 6: story would be Dom getting kicked out and Live, who's
- 2:54:26Speaker 6: still a heat magnet, deciding to decide with Finn like
- 2:54:30Speaker 6: she cheats on Dom with Finn. Sure, I mean, and
- 2:54:45Speaker 6: they could still plan that out though they could you know,
- 2:54:47Speaker 6: she's out on.
- 2:54:48Speaker 2: Such and such, you know, and maybe face texting yeah
- 2:54:53Speaker 2: or like Finn gets it or something like that.
- 2:54:55Speaker 6: Maybe there's some weeks where they're like, Finn, where were
- 2:54:57Speaker 6: you at? Like, you know, maybe a week Fin's not there.
- 2:55:00Speaker 6: Then next week, Fenn, where were you at? I'll take
- 2:55:02Speaker 6: care of something. Last week YadA YadA. Turns out he
- 2:55:05Speaker 6: went out and saw Live while she was filming the movie,
- 2:55:08Speaker 6: and things kind of happened.
- 2:55:11Speaker 5: One thing let to another.
- 2:55:12Speaker 6: That's you know, you know, they're carrying on some secret
- 2:55:16Speaker 6: affair behind Dom's back.
- 2:55:18Speaker 5: And then when Live comes.
- 2:55:19Speaker 6: Back, she turns on Dom and she tides with Finn
- 2:55:23Speaker 6: and Doms on the outs. Because at least by that
- 2:55:26Speaker 6: point you should definitively know where the fans are with Dom, right,
- 2:55:31Speaker 6: you know, if it's gonna be a couple of weeks
- 2:55:33Speaker 6: for Live, you should definitively know where the fans are
- 2:55:36Speaker 6: at with Dom and where the fans are with fans,
- 2:55:38Speaker 6: So you should be able to clearly have those lines
- 2:55:40Speaker 6: to find, and then Live returning can be the catalyst
- 2:55:45Speaker 6: for the you know, one of them getting kicked out.
- 2:55:54Speaker 2: Fuck it, Paul. If you're listening higher trace to being
- 2:55:59Speaker 2: the Ranters. He has no problems also being part of
- 2:56:02Speaker 2: that reality series they have cooking Up where you follow
- 2:56:06Speaker 2: the writers in the writing room.
- 2:56:08Speaker 14: I forget what it's called uncured or something unscripted. What
- 2:56:18Speaker 14: was it called again, Wayne, I think it's.
- 2:56:22Speaker 7: Fuck. You made me forget on something.
- 2:56:26Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't know.
- 2:56:29Speaker 2: Undeserving because we didn't really care.
- 2:56:32Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. All right, guys, let's wrap this bitchup. This
- 2:56:36Speaker 7: has been a long episode. Uh yeah, I got nothing
- 2:56:42Speaker 7: else to plug.
- 2:56:44Speaker 6: Mmkay has always pc instagram, dot com, slash PCW podcast
- 2:56:51Speaker 6: and also the Instagram. It's coming out the Instagram, the discord. Yeah,
- 2:56:56Speaker 6: drugs are kicking in. These allergies are kicking my ass.
- 2:57:00Speaker 7: Plug a show man, what you got hey?
- 2:57:02Speaker 6: Yep.
- 2:57:03Speaker 2: So revisiting the Mania, we have just gone over one
- 2:57:07Speaker 2: hundred subscribers on YouTube. If you have joined us, it's
- 2:57:12Speaker 2: followed and subscribe to us.
- 2:57:13Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 2:57:14Speaker 2: Our next show is going to be a recorded one.
- 2:57:19Speaker 2: We are revisiting our notes from WrestleMania nine and comparing
- 2:57:23Speaker 2: them to the documentary that just recently came out of
- 2:57:27Speaker 2: WrestleMania nine. So we expect to have that out on Sunday.
- 2:57:34Speaker 6: Nice.
- 2:57:35Speaker 7: Yeah, awesome, man, I'll check that out all right.
- 2:57:39Speaker 2: Guys.
- 2:57:39Speaker 7: With that said, let's get the hell out of here.
- 2:57:45Speaker 6: You are the world dumbest.
- 2:57:50Speaker 5: Sign up up it.
- 2:57:53Speaker 7: That day in and day out.
- 2:57:54Speaker 8: For almost six years, I improved everybody in the world
- 2:57:58Speaker 8: that I am the best on this microphone and in
- 2:58:01Speaker 8: that drink given in commentary.
- 2:58:03Speaker 5: Nobody can touch me.
- 2:58:05Speaker 7: You are not cub.
- 2:58:07Speaker 9: It was.
- 2:58:11Speaker 6: Because the street perfect up.
- 2:58:13Speaker 3: And we watched the phone your talk about your songs,
- 2:58:21Speaker 3: talk about John three sixteen, Abstain three sixteen says, I
- 2:58:26Speaker 3: just whipped your ass.
- 2:58:29Speaker 7: Well, let me tell you, fucking brother, who.
- 2:58:39Speaker 9: New Dame.
- 2:58:42Speaker 2: Queen Praise to the top.
- 2:58:44Speaker 6: Oh year, my true madness Year, Welcome to the tovin
- 2:58:49Speaker 6: Owen Show. Lately he just hasn't been Terry usey.
- 2:58:57Speaker 8: Because I know this.
- 2:59:00Speaker 9: And I.
- 2:59:05Speaker 12: A son.
- 2:59:09Speaker 6: Those rotten rostes, Bye bye, it's