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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Defensive Expectations Post Bye Week · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Well, so let's start with this. The Eagles have really,
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  Speaker 1: really struggled to run the football. So if you're the Panthers,
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  Speaker 1: especially with your corners out, I think you need to
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  Speaker 1: make them prove they can run it. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if Saquon will play, but there's a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good chance that they'll be down to their fourth and
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  Speaker 1: fifth string, both of whom were on practice squad last week.
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  Speaker 1: and Damian Pierce and Carson Steele. Make them prove that
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  Speaker 1: they can actually run the ball against you, even if
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  Speaker 1: you have a light box. That's certainly what I would do.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: That is Ross Tucker, who will be calling Eagles Panthers
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  Speaker 3: on Sunday on CBS. His partner in crime on that
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  Speaker 3: broadcast will be Ian Eagle. We will talk to Ian
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  Speaker 3: Eagle later today at 925. Always fun to talk to him, Bone,
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  Speaker 3: and I want to see what he thinks. about the
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  Speaker 3: Eagles and Panthers headed into this game. But that's Ross
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  Speaker 3: Tucker talking about the Panthers' defense this week. And we
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  Speaker 3: will get into more of those conversations about what to do,
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  Speaker 3: what we need to do to win this game. The much-respected, much-anticipated,
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  Speaker 3: Victory Formula bonus coming up at 8 o'clock on this
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  Speaker 3: radio show.
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  Speaker 4: People's entire weeks depend on how to beat the Eagles.
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  Speaker 4: And we have the answers. They come to us for
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  Speaker 4: the answers, right? This is certainly where they come, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 4: We've been in the lab for days with these answers.
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  Speaker 4: Big time, big time. If Saquon Barkley plays, slow him down.
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  Speaker 4: It's on my list.
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  Speaker 3: Is it bad if part of my victory formula is
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  Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley sits out?
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  Speaker 2: That was actually near the top of my list. We
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  Speaker 2: don't want to give it all away yet.
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  Speaker 3: Splinter's... Splitters and Saquon's booty is right up there on
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  Speaker 3: my victory formula. Because if it's not him, it's probably
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  Speaker 3: a fourth string bag. It's probably Pierce.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Panthers' defense more big picture right now.
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  Speaker 3: Like yesterday, we did the whole offensive conversation, and I
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  Speaker 3: really love the fact, Bone, that on a skeptical place,
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  Speaker 3: the WFNZ text line, it was an overwhelming amount of
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  Speaker 3: optimism about this offense. I mean, people believe in Idzik.
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  Speaker 3: The majority believe in Bryce. The majority believe the point
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  Speaker 3: that you were the first to make during the segment yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: which is there's room to grow. Moten's coming back. You know,
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  Speaker 3: Coker looking like he's going to go like there's room
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  Speaker 3: to grow on this team offensively.
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  Speaker 4: Don't send in your Bryce jokes about what Matt just.
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  Speaker 2: Said. I can't use the word grow with Bryce. I
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  Speaker 2: forgot all about that.
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  Speaker 3: But I want to talk about the defense, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't think the expectations are going to be near as high.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think the optimism is going to be near
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  Speaker 3: as high. But I'm kind of wondering with y'all, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think there's two phases of the season for this defense,
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  Speaker 3: at least the way it looks right now. The first
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  Speaker 3: phase is this period bone until they get Mike Jack
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  Speaker 3: and Horn back.
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  Speaker 2: And it's probably in the.
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  Speaker 3: Neighborhood of like five to six, five to seven weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Mike Jack probably back quicker than Horn. So it's this
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  Speaker 3: next five or six games or so where they have
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  Speaker 3: to find ways to to maintain, to be solid. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to be spectacular most weeks. Like for example,
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  Speaker 3: the Detroit game, you get a bunch of red zone stops.
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  Speaker 3: You make them kick field goals instead of touchdowns. You
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  Speaker 3: get a couple of stops on fourth down and lo
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  Speaker 3: and behold, at the end of the night, you were
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  Speaker 3: the first team in the NFL and still are the first,
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  Speaker 3: the only team in the NFL this season to hold
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  Speaker 3: the lions under 30 points.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like bone, like, and then I feel like
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  Speaker 3: when you get your corners back, Hopefully you haven't had
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of other injuries on defense, knock on wood,
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  Speaker 3: and then you're a full unit at that point in time.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a good way of putting it?
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  Speaker 3: What do we expect from this defense without the corners,
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  Speaker 3: but then what do we expect them to be when
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  Speaker 3: they get them back?
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  Speaker 4: First of all, they're going to give up points. They're
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  Speaker 4: going to give up yards in the pass game just
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  Speaker 4: because those guys are out. Can they hold serve enough
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  Speaker 4: to give the team a chance? Can they... Can they bend?
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  Speaker 4: And they will bend at times, but just not break
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  Speaker 4: and give this team a chance, whether it be a
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  Speaker 4: close game or whatever, give this team a chance for
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  Speaker 4: the offense to go win the football game. I equate
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  Speaker 4: it back to a pitching staff is missing two main
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  Speaker 4: rotation pieces right now. Can you just get enough out
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  Speaker 4: of the guys in there to give your team a chance?
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  Speaker 4: You may not get the pitcher that's going to go
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  Speaker 4: seven innings, strike out 10, and be dominant. But can
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  Speaker 4: you get guys that give you enough length in the
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  Speaker 4: game to give your team a chance? We're just looking
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  Speaker 4: for guys that can hold serve, keep the defense average,
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  Speaker 4: and let this emerging offense take over a football game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not expecting some dominant defensive performances here.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to see them not get gutted. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: But I think it does need to be mentioned, Bone,
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  Speaker 3: that Detroit is averaging, I don't know, like 36 points
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  Speaker 3: a game against their other four opponents and scored 26
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  Speaker 3: against us. So, yes, is it ideal to see Jared
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  Speaker 3: Goff throw for 400 plus yards against us?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not.
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  Speaker 3: I also think you've got to figure out something with
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  Speaker 3: the Caleb Evans situation as well.
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  Speaker 2: I think you've got to.
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  Speaker 3: Does Corey Thornton get a chance? Do you play Shaw
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  Speaker 3: Smith Wade out there some? Robert Rochelle got signed to
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  Speaker 3: the practice squad, but I know Joe Person was saying
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  Speaker 3: last night on Panthers Collective, he thinks the move was
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  Speaker 3: Rochelle to practice squad and Thornton will be elevated. Thornton
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  Speaker 3: had such a disappointing preseason bone coming off his injury
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  Speaker 3: from last year.
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  Speaker 2: What happened to this guy? You tapped him all summer.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe that's what happened.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm Matt cursed him, but like, remember his performances
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  Speaker 3: bone in training camp last year. And remember the fact
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  Speaker 3: that he stole that job last season from Shaw Smith, Wade.
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  Speaker 3: So I wonder if Corey Thornton can be the guy,
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  Speaker 3: but that's what they've got to figure out. Do you
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  Speaker 3: give a Caleb Evans another shot? But I said it yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta be quick. You can't be, you can't give
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  Speaker 3: him a long leash anymore, man.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, you can't.
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  Speaker 4: I think Sunday is going to be a, uh, low
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  Speaker 4: scoring tough game but i don't think that the panthers
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  Speaker 4: are going to want to get in too many or
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  Speaker 4: we'll end up in too many defensive struggles along the
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  Speaker 4: way it's it's a little bit different than we thought
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  Speaker 4: i think they're going to want to get in more
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  Speaker 4: offensive games because i think that's going to be how
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  Speaker 4: they're going to win football games i think that won't
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  Speaker 4: always work out that way but it's the way it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be we've got a texter that says i
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  Speaker 4: don't mean that in long term when mike jack and
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  Speaker 4: horn get back it's a different mentality but right now
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be they're going to score some points
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  Speaker 4: in these games 704 number says, what you're hearing is
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  Speaker 4: Mac changing the expectations from his hype in the preseason
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  Speaker 4: about this defense. Well, I don't know how you can't
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  Speaker 4: when you're missing two corners that good. You know, and
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  Speaker 4: when a Caleb Evans was forced to start last game
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  Speaker 4: and almost gave up 200 yards on 11 completions.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I'm just trying to be honest.
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  Speaker 3: Now, what Bone said there at the end, I do think,
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  Speaker 3: you know, guys will get experience, Bone, and will be
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  Speaker 3: better for it when they get back. If you can
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  Speaker 3: still be healthy in the front seven and you get
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  Speaker 3: Horn and Jack back, I think you have a chance
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  Speaker 3: to have a, you know, defense that is top half
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  Speaker 3: in the league and an offense that's top 10.
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  Speaker 2: And if you can get into the playoffs with that
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  Speaker 2: kind of balance.
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  Speaker 3: By the end of the season, you could be damn dangerous.
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  Speaker 3: But like this dude says, sounds like Mac is on
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  Speaker 3: here making excuses for Avero.
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  Speaker 2: Aren't we just being honest, though? I don't think it's
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  Speaker 2: an excuse. Isn't this fair? The two best corners are out.
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  Speaker 4: One guy is a top five corner in the league
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  Speaker 4: per ESPN.com's rankings this past summer.
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  Speaker 2: Like, is that what's going to happen here?
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  Speaker 3: Is, like, people are going to use what happened to
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  Speaker 3: the defense without, like, here's the thing, too. If we
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  Speaker 3: win games and give up 26 points, are y'all going
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  Speaker 3: to be on this text line whining and nagging and
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  Speaker 3: harassing Averro? Without his top two corners? Absolutely. The object
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  Speaker 3: of the game is to win.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: And we're fortunate enough now to, we think... we have
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  Speaker 3: an offense bone that's really freaking good. Like, I was
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  Speaker 3: checking all the– The.
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  Speaker 4: Green Bay game's an example of where the offense has
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  Speaker 4: got to show up in that game. And they had
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  Speaker 4: to against Detroit, too. I don't think they're going to
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  Speaker 4: hold Green Bay to very few points, the way they operate.
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  Speaker 4: And they had to against Detroit. But, again, like, that
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  Speaker 4: Green Bay offensive line's pretty.
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  Speaker 5: Bad, too.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Can we hurt them? Can
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  Speaker 3: we make them pay up front a little bit? So, again,
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  Speaker 3: the object's to win the game. So I hope we're
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  Speaker 3: not sitting here, if we find ways to keep winning
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  Speaker 3: games like we did against Detroit– and the defense is
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  Speaker 3: bend but not break and stuff like that, I hope
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  Speaker 3: people aren't complaining about the defense. We're lucky to have
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  Speaker 3: this offense like this.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: If we had last year's offense and we're missing Mike
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  Speaker 3: Jack and J.C. Horn, I believe that would be serious
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  Speaker 3: cause for concern.
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  Speaker 4: Good news is we don't have a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: that complain a whole lot, so we don't really run
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  Speaker 4: into that problem too much. We've got a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: Danny Hurleys on the text line. I was just going
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  Speaker 4: to say we've got a bunch of Danny Hurleys on
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  Speaker 4: the text line. You and I, two guys, one brain.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see what else we have here.
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  Speaker 3: Literally.
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  Speaker 2: We each have. 5 of a brain. It adds up
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  Speaker 2: to one. Smitty from the City Panthers.
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  Speaker 3: D without their corners is like the Mac and Bone
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  Speaker 3: Show without Mac.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Is that like, does that, I mean, what about without Bone?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we need both of us here. What about
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  Speaker 3: without Finney? We ain't the same without Finney.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm offended or not. I know.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, hey, you miss one of us, man.
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  Speaker 2: We ain't the same show. All right.
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  Speaker 4: We're like Coach Kaysen. You put your fist together, we're one.
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  Speaker 2: We're one with a fist.
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  Speaker 3: Travis, thank you, Kay. Travis from Statesville. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: it's changing expectations. I think it's just acknowledging that the
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  Speaker 3: ceiling of the defense is lower right now. I think
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  Speaker 3: that's a good way of putting it. John says mac
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  Speaker 3: acts like a varro's bend but not break um or
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  Speaker 3: is it bend but not break when he has his
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  Speaker 3: corners yeah i mean there's a mindset right of keeping
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  Speaker 3: everything in front of you and umbrella coverage and stuff
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  Speaker 3: like that i will say this and i want to
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  Speaker 3: say right now the coverage they played bone on that
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  Speaker 3: long pass played by detroit at the end of the
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  Speaker 3: first half was an abomination An absolute abomination. I just
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  Speaker 3: don't understand how you have a five-man umbrella and two
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  Speaker 3: of them stay underneath in that situation. So I will
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  Speaker 3: never defend that crap. And I'm not saying Avero's perfect.
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  Speaker 3: I will point out, Bone, that we're sixth in blitz percentage.
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  Speaker 3: We blitz 45% of the time against Jerry Goff. Agero
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  Speaker 3: Avero listened to Fitty's advice.
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  Speaker 2: Last game. Phinney said blitz Jared Goff.
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  Speaker 3: Brenton Buckner and a bunch of people texted in and said,
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  Speaker 3: do y'all realize how good Goff is against the blitz?
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  Speaker 3: We went out there, Bone, and got pressures over 60%
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  Speaker 3: of the time on our blitzes. And Goff ended up
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  Speaker 3: with like a 72 rating against the blitz. So they
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  Speaker 3: did a hell of a job. And Goff's a hard
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  Speaker 3: quarterback to blitz. So I do think they got to
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  Speaker 3: pick their spots with the blitzes. But I don't think
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be all conservative blitzes. You know, umbrella stuff.
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  Speaker 4: We also have to mention how much of a difference
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  Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd is for this team and how he alters
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  Speaker 4: the ceiling of the defense with or without those corners.
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  Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd's play does put the defense on it. They're
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  Speaker 4: not going to be Mac, a defense that was the
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  Speaker 4: worst ever two years ago. when Devin Lloyd is out there.
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  Speaker 4: He will not let that happen. He's an absolute difference
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  Speaker 4: maker for this team. We've seen it already in the
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  Speaker 4: first quarter of the season. Well, that's another thing, too. Like, OK,
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  Speaker 4: we're missing our two corners, and they are freaking good.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Mike Jack is one of the most underrated
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  Speaker 4: corners in football. There's no way around it.
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  Speaker 2: And J.C.
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  Speaker 3: Horn, the last two years, has started to get his recognition.
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  Speaker 3: You lose those two guys, but we do have to
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  Speaker 3: talk about what we have, Bone. We have Devin Lloyd, who,
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  Speaker 3: to your point, is a game changer, the leader of
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  Speaker 3: this defense. And he helps you in every aspect of defense.
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  Speaker 3: Run defense, coverage, pass rush as a blitzer. And then
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  Speaker 3: you throw in Okereke next to him. Hell, if you
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  Speaker 3: want to throw in Dodson. Our linebacker situation is so
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  Speaker 3: much better than last year. The pass rush, Bone, I
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  Speaker 3: know it doesn't seem like much. We're up to 17th
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  Speaker 3: in pressure percentage overall. It is still 25th in sack percentage,
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  Speaker 3: which isn't great. But I do think Bone Prinsley is
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  Speaker 3: right up there in the top three in pass rush
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  Speaker 3: win rate. I think Jalen Phillips is 11th in pressures
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  Speaker 3: among edges. There is more pass rush this year. And
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  Speaker 3: we get Wharton back. I think that could be a
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  Speaker 3: big pass rush boon as well, giving us some interior rush.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned a comment that I liked earlier about the
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  Speaker 4: guys that are getting to play now. Does that benefit
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  Speaker 4: them long term for the negative of having to play now?
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  Speaker 4: Does that benefit them long term? That's a theme I
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  Speaker 4: think on this roster. Freeling got in there quicker than
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  Speaker 4: we thought. Does he benefit from that long term? Of course,
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  Speaker 4: I think he will. Um, Prince Lee is playing a
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  Speaker 4: lot more than we thought because Gordon is out. There's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of guys on this roster who are getting
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  Speaker 4: opportunities and that depth is being built here for it hurting.
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  Speaker 2: Now going forward.
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  Speaker 4: In the next couple of years, these guys playing now
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  Speaker 4: does benefit the overall depth of this football.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 3: It does. And even later this year, you know, when,
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  Speaker 3: when we get Hornet and Mike Jack back, Patrick is
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: already taking us bone to the eight o'clock segment and
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  Speaker 3: to the victory formula against the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: He says he's worried in a different time zone. He's worried.
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  Speaker 2: Princely still doesn't. Where's he at here? He's worried.
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: Princely still doesn't understand what a pocket is and hurts.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get out and burn us on some scrambles. That
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  Speaker 3: is going to be boned very high on my list
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  Speaker 3: of victory formula items. Now, the good news is he
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: does sound like he's got a bit of a calf injury.
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: He has not run enough for Philly fans liking. But
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  Speaker 3: that would be some Panther stuff, Bone, where the quarterback's
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  Speaker 3: not running a ton and all of a sudden runs
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  Speaker 3: it 10 times for 56 yards against the Panthers. But
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  Speaker 3: that is absolutely something that I hope we learn from.
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  Speaker 3: the William's experience and the Watson experience because this is
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: back to a controlled rush game against Jalen Hurts.
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  Speaker 4: All right, we're going to let Mac answer his text messages.
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  Speaker 3: Important text coming. Oh, Coach Canale said, what time is
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  Speaker 3: that victory formula on? We're going to stop what we're doing.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: We come back.
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  Speaker 4: Reports indicate we are getting closer to a 2014 playoff
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: at college football, and a listener brought up an interesting question.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: Shouldn't the increased playoff access make local fans want to
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: double the playoff field?
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that on the Mac and Bone Show,
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio.
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  Speaker 5: 92.7 WFNZ.
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: I think if you're a middle of the road team,
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  Speaker 6: Bill Belichick has certainly ample opportunity to beat you. And
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  Speaker 6: that's just us maybe being a little biased towards that
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  Speaker 6: because he's the greatest NFL coach of all time. So
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  Speaker 6: we assume he's going to be a good college football coach.
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  Speaker 6: It didn't look like that last year. They didn't even
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  Speaker 6: have a recruiting class last year. I think if you
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  Speaker 6: listen to them talk about it all while under fire
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  Speaker 6: a lot, they're under siege a lot with a lot
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  Speaker 6: of distractions. And then did you see after the game?
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  Speaker 6: players said, hey, you take a lot of s * * *
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  Speaker 6: for us. We appreciate you. First ranked win, they gave
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  Speaker 6: him a ball, and then they celebrated with him, and
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  Speaker 6: Bill was smiling. It felt like he actually has a
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: little bit of a culture set in there somehow. I
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: don't know how he's been able to do it, but
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: I think North Carolina would be a problem for teams.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: There's a little bit of a culture set there somehow.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know how he's done it.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Pat McAfee talking about UNC, and they got
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Duke this weekend, and that is a juicy one.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: I think it'll be a hell of a game. And
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: I do want to say this, Bone.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: I do think, like, when I saw that it was
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Jordan Shipp giving them the game ball and how happy
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: the guys were for Bill, and he did say that, like,
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: you take all this crap for us, man, and we
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: love you for it. Like, they're starting to establish something.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: I honestly think the vibes at the program probably improved
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: when Michael Lombardi was.
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: Out of there.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: And I don't know. And he took his typewriter with him.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: And took that typewriter out, just had it on out. Like,
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: I feel like, and maybe that's more with like. The
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: people in the administration and the staff, like the people
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: that had to deal with him more, maybe it's not
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: the players, but I just think that dude was bad
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: at his job and a complete pain in the rear
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: to deal with the way it seems. So I almost
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: feel like they lifted a black cloud when they got
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: rid of him. And I don't know if Steve, I
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: don't want to talk too much about the Steve Belichick thing.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: We don't know all the details, but that one too
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: might have met, that one might've made, you.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Know, lifted a black cloud as well.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: And, Jordan's been quieter this year than last year, and
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: it's not all about her and the drama. So it
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: feels like this year has been much more about football
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: than everything else. I know that stuff happened with Belichick
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: and Lombardi, but I feel like they resemble more of
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: a football program than some television program we're watching develop
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: before our eyes.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: So I give Bill a little credit here. Obviously, we've
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: been critical. The whole free world's been critical. Although she
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: could have Belichick in a Halloween costume pretty soon. Jordan
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Hudson is a black cloud in a cheerleading outfit, by
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: the way, speaking of removing black clouds.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: But you're right.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Somebody texted about the other day, said, I don't know
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: if it's coincidence, but Jordan hasn't really seemed to be
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: around and things have been going better. She's there at
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: every game, though, supporting her boo. Supporting Billy the Boo.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Billy the Boo. That probably isn't the coolest thing I've
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: ever said.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: You just called yourself on the break Captain Corny about
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: a minute ago.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I know, and I proved it. Captain Corny!
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about something a texter sent in.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: And this could be addressed by all local college football fans.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I do think it's an interesting point. So, we got
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: a text, I think it was yesterday, Bone, where he texted,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: maybe it was two days ago, but we were saying
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: something about not liking the 2014 playoff idea.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Which, by the way, if you read.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: The latest stuff, it does seem like, there was a
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: report yesterday, Bone, that it just feels like it is...
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: It's getting really close to that being done. The deadline
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: is December 1st, and it just feels like this is
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: probably the last season of the 12-team playoff. And the
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: texter said something, I'll just paraphrase it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Can't believe it's already ending. It seems like it just began.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. And they wanted to do it after one year.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: But anyway, the texter said something to the effect of,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I keep hearing you guys and your listeners say, Bad
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: mouth the 2014 playoff. He said, when you root for
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: all these teams in the Carolinas that don't have a
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: chance in a 12-team playoff, why would the local fans
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: not embrace doubling the playoff field?
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Huh?
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: And I think this is like, and you look at
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: wake forest right now, like, yeah, they've got a chance
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: at a 12 team playoff, but 2014 playoff. If you're
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: a Deke fan, how good would you feel about your
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: chances then? What do you think about that bone? Like
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: you were for Duke in South Carolina. I think you're, you're,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: you know, that's two of the fans like last year,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Duke would have been in, in a 2014 field. health
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: of the sport and the meaning of the regular season
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: being diminished. I just, that's why I don't like it.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: It also feels like it's too much too fast. We
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: were at four teams like three years ago, you know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: but there isn't art. Like I wouldn't blame fans of
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: the local team saying, Hey, what, you know what? Now
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: you put it that way, I think I want 24 teams.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: It's moving faster than Finney's relationship, to be quite honest
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: about it. Oh, and that's fast. That's the speed of light.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Gator Rube has a point here, and I disagree with it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: He says Wake versus Georgia in the first round, what's
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: the spread? Because when it comes to stuff like that,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: obviously a lot of the teams here, Mac, wouldn't go
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: very far. But I still think if you're one of
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: the 24 and you're in those stand-alone windows, those playoff games...
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: That's big for programs like Wake, for recruiting, for the
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: money that they need. Yeah, the results may not go
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: their way, especially in a game like Wake and Georgia,
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: for example. But just being in those matchups, getting the attention,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: being in standalone windows for your program would be huge
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: for Wake. for Duke, for State, for Carolina, for the game,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: for all those schools. That would be massive for them
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: to be in those spots.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: It would be. No, that's true.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: And I don't know, like, I think with the, is
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: the way they would do it the most talked about
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: way that the first eight teams would get buys?
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: And then the bottom 16 would play in round one.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: All right. So the SEC gets buys. And then the
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: eight winners.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Would play the eight by. I think that's the way they're.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: So I don't think you would get that extreme in
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: the first round. But I get like I'm with you
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: on that one, though, Rube, just the general sense of
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: what you're saying. This is another reason I don't want
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: it for the sake of college football. Like watching if
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: it's 24 against nine. You know what I mean? I
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: just don't think that's good for the sport, watching 10
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: against 23. Now, you will get more on campus games,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: which I do like that idea of, but I've always
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: liked the exclusivity of the college football playoff.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: They just went to 12. We barely....
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: I just feel like they should have let 12 breathe
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: longer than they did. I have a question about it, though.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: I've mainly been on your side, but if I'm looking
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: the other way, I do have a question about what
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: you're saying about those matchups. And I know it's different
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: in that sport, but we do love March Madness and
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: we do love talking about lopsided matchups and who can
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: pull off upsets. We do talk about March Madness in
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: that way. We look at 16-versus-1s and 15-versus-2s and try
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: to figure out who could pull off an upset.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: We do have the most parity in the sport we've seen, man.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: And sometimes in college basketball, obviously, it goes major blowout city,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: but there are times where the games are closer than
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: we think, so who knows?
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and we are in— That's why we
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: love March, right? Football has never really been the same bone.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: You know, but we're in an NIL era where we've
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: we have not really seen this much parody.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: So 10 versus 23. I don't know. Is that.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: But even if it is, my whole argument is you're
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: putting in 12 teams that are worse than the 12.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like you're watering down the field.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Let's see what fans are saying.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: 704-570-9610.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Got a text from Mikey Swags here.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: What's Mikey saying? I don't know. I just like the
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: name Mikey.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Mikey Swags, baby. Forget about it. There are still blowouts
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: in the 12-team playoff as well.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: 100%.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Hell, the 14-playoff. Mikey Swags.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: We were getting blowouts in the semis. uh let's see
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: here uh matt says wake from miami was a great
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: game yeah that's i mean maybe great's a little strong
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: but they were driving in the fourth quarter with a
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: chance to cut it to one score they were in
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: the red zone with a chance cut so lost by
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: 13 so they acquitted themselves pretty well actually to his
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: point there it's a good point i know.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: That he got off to a great start but mac
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: i think the most uncomfortable that mensa's looked all year
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: was in the second half against wake They actually pressured
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Mensah to where he didn't look that great in that half. Now,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Tony was out, but that was where Mensah actually looked
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: human in that half.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Not the first half, second half.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: They did.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: That defensive front will get after you at Wake, man.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: No doubt about it. This texter says, is it wrong
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: that as a UNC fan, I don't want to make
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: a cheap 2014 playoff? It feels like you really haven't
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: earned anything special. Why are you laughing? Finney, you're a
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: UNC fan. What do you think of this guy's opinion?
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Can a UNC football fan act like that? Like, I
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: don't want to be in it unless it's 12 team.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: If you put it to 20, like what's next bone,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: a UNC fan texts in and says they want them
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: to turn the bit down.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: If they, in the future, make the 2014 field, do
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: you fit?
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Do you like the 2014 playoff idea because it would
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: give your heels a better chance in the future?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Or, or does that not play into it?
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: If I look at it with my fandom and play
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: massive in favor of a 2014 playoff, because I don't
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: know how realistically, how often Carolina could compete in a
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: 12 team I think you open it up to 24 teams.
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: They would have made it under Sam. They would have
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: made it with Drake May. I think maybe at some point, hopefully,
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: you could say you made it under Bill Belichick.
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: I look at it from your point of view, Mac. Like,
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: I was listening to Josh Payton talk about this on
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: his podcast.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: He was all over it this week.
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: Georgia-Bama was great. And there was a great atmosphere in T-Town.
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: And there was a sense of urgency in that game.
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: But imagine if that game takes place in a 24 team.
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: There's no repercussion for teams that lose that game.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Not at all.
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: Because those teams are still going to, A, make the playoff, B,
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: still very well be alive to get buys in the playoffs.
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: What makes college football different is that every weekend matters.
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: And that got lessened when we went from 4 to 12.
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: If you go from 12 to 24, how many of
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: these great weekends, like look at this upcoming weekend of
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: college football.
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: It is tremendous.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't matter.
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: There's no repercussions for the teams that lose.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: The games that would matter, Fitty, would involve worse teams.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: Teams that aren't championship caliber.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Our team's here. And that goes back to the point.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Bone.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: It's like, are we missing a better, I guess, I
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: don't know what it is. I just love college football
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: so much. Like that I can't, I don't know. I
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: don't look at this selfishly. And I feel like I
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: usually look at sports selfishly. But for some reason, I
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: just want to protect the great game of college football.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: And the other thing, too, is Josh Pate made a
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: great point this week. Let's all be honest about the
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: reason why, Bone, the powers that be want the 2014.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: It's a bailout, in the words of Josh Pate. It's, oh,
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: my God, we've got ourselves into this situation where we
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: need money for so many different things. Oh, my God,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: we actually got to pay the players now. It has
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: a lot to do with the need for money. As
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: much as anything.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: The biggest reason.
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: Why I'm open to a 2014 playoff more than anything, Mac,
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: is that it would bring a different TV network to
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: the table.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't sound like it would. I saw something yesterday.
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: Oh, so now it can expand to 24 and ESPN
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: still gets to drive the narrative?
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: It sounds like it. Oh, then to hell with this.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Because you know ESPN's been negotiating. They have that window
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: to negotiate that's just ending. There was a report saying, Bone,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: it looks like it could very well still be all ESPN.
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: Then why would CBS and NBC pay for college football games?
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: If you can't have your feet at the table to
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: have playoff games and be able to drive your own
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: narrative for the Big Ten, what's the point of them
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: even televising the damn conferences?
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Same reason ESPN broadcasts college basketball. They don't have March Madness.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: College football games do much bigger ratings than college basketball.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Here's the thing, though, Fitty, to your point, it doesn't
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: help the regular season games. ESPN gets the postseason games,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: but now a lot of the big games, to your point,
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: are diminished on the networks. but yet Fox and CBS
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: and NBC don't get a part of the book. So
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it's not ideal for them. Um, I don't know, man,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: this dude says I'm a Clemson fan. I'm embarrassed that
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: we made a 12 team playoff, 14 playoff.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: We're embarrassed for you. I'm, That's another thing, too.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be rude-boned to our local fan
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: bases that butter our bread.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Butter them biscuits.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Where are these attitudes getting from that our teams in
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: the Carolinas are too good for expanded playoffs?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I don't get that.
• 27:50
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• 27:53
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• 27:56
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• 27:58
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• 28:01
  Speaker 4: let's go back to the era of the BCS. Simply
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: one verse two, a time when men were men. Oh yeah,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: that was perfect. That worked out beautifully. No controversies. The
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: early 2000s, the time when men were men. That's exactly right.
• 28:15
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• 28:19
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• 28:38
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• 28:57
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• 28:59
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• 29:01
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• 29:20
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• 29:25
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• 29:45
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• 29:48
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• 29:54
  Speaker 3: here on the show, where they are asking all their
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: employees what the easiest position is to play in sports. Now,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: someone on there says quarterback, and I find that to
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: be laughable. Third string quarterback is my dream.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: What position is the easiest one in sport?
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: I'm going punter. I'm going punter. Like kicker, I would
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: never say. I would never say long snapper. You have
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: games on the line at kicker. Punter, though, you practice
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: punting a football. I mean, they don't even let them
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: hit you. You barely need to make a tackle. Like,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: punter is the first thing that popped into my head.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Not an enormous amount of pressure, I'd say, compared to
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: the kicker.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to be punter, right? I would think so.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Turd Ferguson, long snapper. How dare you, sir?
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: No.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: JJ could be listening, sir. No, it's not. We are
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: not doing that in this house. Like, what other positions
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: would you even think of in sports?
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Because it's not basketball. It wouldn't be any other football. Like,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: it can't be, like, relief pitcher.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: No.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Because you get in there, all the pressure in the
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: world could be on you. Low leverage relief pitcher?
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: You also have to. Like, the guy that goes in
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: when you're getting blown out?
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  Speaker 4: You also have to throw, like, 98 now, which is
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: not easy to do. So, I don't know. Patton Mount Pleasant, golfer.
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  Speaker 3: As mentally tough as that game is yeah let me
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  Speaker 3: tell you you're out there yourself you have no teammates
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: to help you golfers not easy.
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  Speaker 4: Now we're talking about like position and like the main
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: we're not talking about like dart throwers it's we're talking
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: about like of the main sports easiest position to play.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Right dirt i would assume ders in huntersville says placeholder
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: for the kicker but they're usually have another job but
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: would you have a third string quarterback slash holder That seems.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Like a good gig.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I call that my dream. Baron says male cheerleaders.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Caddy. Matt.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like to be a caddy. But you got
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: to actually know stuff, though, to be a caddy. That
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: would disqualify me.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know, man.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: I think it's if we're talking about the main sport,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: I would think it has to be punter.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Welcome down, says long snapper. You can do it in
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: your 70s, apparently.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: I don't like this passive-aggressive stuff towards JJ going on. Anyway,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: keep those texts coming. Bullpen catcher. Backup catcher. Backup catcher
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: that handles the bullpen.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: My best friend in high school was a bullpen catcher,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: and he used to get harassed by the opposing fans
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  Speaker 4: down the line. So you're saying that's not fun. No,
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  Speaker 4: they would call him Fatty, Fatty McGee. Like, oh, yeah,
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: it was ugly.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Someone says first baseman. I don't know.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: You've got to clean up those. You've got to stretch
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: and clean up those little hoppers. Those throws that come
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: to you in the dirt. There's no way that's easy. Yeah,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't think so. Plus, you still have to hit
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: or you ain't going to have your job. What are
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: you talking about here?
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: All right, DH.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: No.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Someone that says DH. No, you have to still hit
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the baseball. Kevin says LeBron James' son. Winner. Winner, winner.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Kevin wins, baby. Kevin wins the text line.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Winner.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Let's get to some more stories. Shout out Brian Tilly
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: and Barstool. That was a good question.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: So, Bone, there is apparently some tension between Joe Buck
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: and Troy Aikman, according to a front office sports report.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: They both have been going through contract situations. Joe Buck
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: got his contract. Aikman is not. And apparently they got
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: into an argument about it, Bone.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: And there is tension there. How do you feel about
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: the Buck Aikman tension? Some people are thinking this could
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: lead to Aikman walking from ESPN.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: What do you think of all this? There's been something
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: going on here. I don't know if Buck, you know,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: they signed together with ESPN. They've been together, by the way, for...
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Since 2005, they are like best friends. Imagine that, be
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: with a broadcasting partner since 2005. That's insane to be
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: together for that long. Good morning, Mac. I've wondered, this
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: is just my speculation, does ESPN want to put McAfee
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: in the booth with them or in some role? Joe
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Buck doesn't mind it, signed right away, and Aikman, the
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: football guy, is like, I'm not doing this. I wonder
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: if they're just my guess. Because money-wise, you would think
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: it'd be pretty equal. Aikman's already filthy rich. It may
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: not be money, but what would hold back Aikman from
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: signing when Buck did it right away? And a couple
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: weeks ago, Mac, Joe Buck on the broadcast, they showed
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: McAfee on the sidelines. He said, hey, there's our friend
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Pat McAfee. And McAfee like waved during the game. Troy
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Aikman said nothing back at all to that at all.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Troy Aikman says, is that the guy you're trying to
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: place for your job? I wonder if Buck's been like, yeah,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: let's throw him in here. And then Aikman's kind of like,
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: you're not taking him.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I will say this.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: McAfee came out the other day and said all this
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: stuff about me being in the booth is BS.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: All that stuff. But what's he going to say? Right
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: now he's doing Disney voiceovers. That's true. And he's got.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Another job now. His 1700th job, voicing a character for Hext.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Speaking of entertainment vehicles. How about the two new sports
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: streaming shows that are in the works? One of them
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: is going to be out soon. This one is called
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: The Land. Have you read about this one, Bone? I
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: don't think so. Fictitious story. It's on Hulu coming up.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Fictitious story that follows the inner workings of a struggling
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: NFL franchise named the Cleveland Browns.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: What a fictitious tale. Where'd they get the idea for
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: this one?
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Episode one, they sign a quarterback that is under fire
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: for his massage therapy pass.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: To a massive contract. Obviously, it's a very fake show.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: It sounds kind of cheesy to me. It's like meddlesome owner.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: It has all the stereotypical things that you would see
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: in this like fake conflict stuff.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: They should do a movie on a struggling baseball team
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: in Cleveland. A comedic look at baseball in Cleveland.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know if this is comedic or not, but yes,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: they hit with that one.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Who wants to see? I'm not feeling this. We don't
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: want to see the real Browns. They're quite a fictitious
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Browns team. I'm not feeling this. Change the city up. Now,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I will tell you this next one I am all
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: in on. She got it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Netflix is doing a documentary on DeJuan Love.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Is that his name? The dude that pretended.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: To be a 49ers wide receiver and, like, frauded all
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: these women out of money.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, hell yeah.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Netflix is doing a doc on that. Wide Deceiver is
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: what the name of it's going to be, which is tremendous.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I am all in.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: You know what that is? That's like Tinder Swindler with football.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: That's a great one. That's what that is. And I
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: love that movie. I love that doc. Have you been
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: into the Saban documentary at all yet? I have not.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of clips of it. A few
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: minutes last week's first episode. I don't know.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I kind of get Saban'd out. You know, he's on
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: commercials every other break trying to decide. He's trying to
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: decide if he's on Aflac. He's trying to decide if
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: he's going to eat a sandwich or do his drilling.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And he's also on Game Day.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: But it looks like it might be good content.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: We also have the new that came out last week,
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: the new Mike Tyson documentary on Netflix.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I have not seen that one yet either.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: What?
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that one pop up when I was
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: looking last night. Did you see what the name of
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: that one is? I'm Spartacus.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I'm Copernicus. I'm Gideon's children. That's the name of it?
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: No, I'm in.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I would have liked that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: That would be a silly name for a documentary. I
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: would have liked that name.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: So what do you think, Bone, about the speculation that's
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: out there in the media that because of the NIL
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: money going up and up, that it'll cost too much
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: money now to get the players... to pay all the
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: players for rights to use them in the EA Sports
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: college football video game. And there's a real fear from
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: many that the college football video game bone could be
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: going away just a few years after it coming back.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Also, we're supposed to get the college basketball video game
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: next year also. So is that going to make a
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: one-year return and just be gone for another 20 years?
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't like where this is headed.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Are you guys still enjoying the college football video game? Like,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: is this still, has the luster worn off? Because I
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: haven't played it since the first year back.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: I play it when it first comes out for the year,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: but then once the actual, like it gets my football
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: fix in for a few weeks, and then we get
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: so busy with actual football, I kind of lose it
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: a little bit during the season.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I'm playing it, but I'm not playing
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: it as often as.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I used to.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Are you still taking the Tar Heels to great footballing heights, Fetty,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: or no?
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: No, I probably pick back up in the offseason.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: There's just too much. Too much going on. I don't
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: have time to do stuff right now.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: That's understandable, though. It still would be a bummer, man.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: That's a beloved game. It still would. But I understand
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: they also have to pay all the conferences for rights, Bone.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: There's so many rights, like coaches. There's just so many
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: different rights fees involved. that they have to pay. All right.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: I will wrap this up bone on this note. Did
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: you have any idea? Usually I'm on top of celebrity couples, right? Boney.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Usually I know who's dating who, and then some texter
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: texts in and says, that's why I have low T
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: because I follow this stuff too much.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Um, that literally happened earlier, but anyway.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: That couple was Kelly Clarkson and a toy bird.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Did you know that Elizabeth Hurley and Billy Ray Silas
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: had been a couple for over a year?
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I had no idea.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I He's got an achy, breaky heart no longer.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: You talking about the guy from the T-Mobile ads?
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Mr.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Achy, breaky heart.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: Oh, Billy Ray.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: I thought you said Billy Bob. I thought you meant
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Billy Bob Thornton. You said Billy Ray Cyrus.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no. Did you know that?
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: I thought maybe somewhere along the way, because I saw
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: a tweet about Miley and her. But maybe I don't
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: remember it, though. Hell, I just thought you were talking
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: about Billy Bob Thornton. Doesn't that seem like an odd couple?
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: A little bit.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: British and Southern country. But who knows, man? A lot
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: of people say Mrs. Mac and Mac are an odd couple.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not worthy of her, and they'd probably be right.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: Some people say some things about that.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Definitely.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: When we come back, victory formula time, Eagles edition. How
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: do the Panthers get a W on Sunday? Sports Radio,
• 39:52
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