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Ian Furness 10/21 H1: Ian is live from the VMAC with Jarran Reed, Mike MacDonald speaks and moving on from Walker. · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 2: Next up, the Utah Mammoth are in town.
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  Speaker 2: NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Wednesday the league welcomes an
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  Speaker 2: investigation into the Philadelphia Eagles' handling of Jalen Hurts' blood
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  Speaker 4: My hand's super high in the air right now.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: New York Giants reportedly will start ex-Vikings quarterback J.J. McCarthy
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday against the Texans. Jameis Winston has started the
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  Speaker 2: previous four games. J.J.
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  Speaker 3: McCarthy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Things are going well for the Giants, clearly.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, goodness me. Yeah, I'd say that's an understatement, Ash.
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  Speaker 2: That could be a significant understatement as well. All right,
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  Speaker 2: let's get to the show.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome in on a Wednesday. I'm at the
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  Speaker 2: Virginia Mason Athletic Center. That would be the headquarters for
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  Speaker 2: your defending world champion, Seattle Seahawks. Good to be here
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  Speaker 2: on a Wednesday. Great to be here on a Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 3: Ashley, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: I am great.
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  Speaker 4: It's a nice day out. Traffic wasn't bad coming in.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little foggy over here in Renton. I can
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  Speaker 2: tell you that right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a little foggy on my walk this morning. Chilly,
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  Speaker 4: but it was gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: Feels like fall, which we were all into fall.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Jaron Reed is going to join us on the show
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  Speaker 2: very soon. We always kind of do the tap dance
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  Speaker 2: because I don't want to get too deep into something
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  Speaker 2: because then all of a sudden the Seahawk player walks in,
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  Speaker 2: and in this case it's going to be Jaron Reed.
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  Speaker 2: I think Jaron Reed's a good guy to talk to today, Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Played for the Kansas City Chiefs. Also played with Kansas
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  Speaker 2: City Chiefs running back Ken Walker.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Played with and against Pat Mahomes. I think he'll be
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  Speaker 2: a good guy to talk to today. So what are
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  Speaker 2: his thoughts on this game? This game is just, oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: I am, A, I'm very glad I don't have a
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  Speaker 2: hockey game. Really glad I don't have a hockey game.
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  Speaker 2: And I honestly can't wait until Sunday night. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be fantastic. It's the number one total
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  Speaker 2: offense in the NFL, the Chiefs, the number one total
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  Speaker 2: defense in the NFL, and the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and then, you know, obviously the thing we've talked about,
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  Speaker 5: the Ken Walker return game. I don't know if I
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  Speaker 5: even want to call it revenge because I don't know
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  Speaker 5: what revenge he really should have for, you know, a
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  Speaker 5: team that played him and he won a Super Bowl
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  Speaker 5: and everything, but they didn't pay him.
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  Speaker 4: I get that.
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  Speaker 5: But we haven't allowed a 100-yard rusher since October of 2024.
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  Speaker 5: We've given up more than 100 yards rushing to a team.
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  Speaker 4: But not to an individual. So that part really fascinates me.
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  Speaker 3: You know that they're going to force feed this dude. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know it's coming right at you, baby. It is
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  Speaker 2: coming right at you. I was joking with Softy yesterday
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  Speaker 2: in crosstalk, and he did a really poor job at
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  Speaker 2: trying to stir the pot with Dick.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, man, I'm disappointed in him.
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  Speaker 3: I am too. I'm really disappointed.
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  Speaker 2: I thought he had more stones than that, but he
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  Speaker 2: just kind of, threw me under the bus and said, Dick,
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  Speaker 2: I can't, you know, this, I'm not going to. But
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  Speaker 2: the joking aside, if you missed it yesterday in a crosstalk,
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  Speaker 2: we just talked, you know, are there people that have
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  Speaker 2: lost a little bit of faith in John Schneider? And
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  Speaker 2: I only brought that up for this reason. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: let me just say, me, no. Ashley said yesterday, no.
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  Speaker 2: Most of us are no. But the Ken Walker thing
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  Speaker 2: is a fascinating study. Because, look, there's no GM in
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  Speaker 2: any sport. There's no coach in any sport. There's no
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  Speaker 2: player in any sport. Nobody exists that is perfect in
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  Speaker 2: terms of talent evaluation. We're going to talk about that
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  Speaker 2: with Stu coming up. Stuart Mandel is going to join
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  Speaker 2: us at 1 o'clock today. And, you know, one of
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  Speaker 2: the things going on with college football, one of the
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  Speaker 2: big storylines is what's going on in Texas, right, with
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  Speaker 2: Arch Manning and Sark and just the absolute dumpster fire
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  Speaker 2: that that situation is. Hell, Kyle Whittingham is going through that.
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  Speaker 2: to the same extent down at Michigan right now with
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood, kind of the hand-picked, you know, this guy's
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  Speaker 2: going to be the savior of the program quarterback after,
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  Speaker 2: you know, J.J. McCarthy won a national championship. Talent evaluation
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  Speaker 2: is really hard. There's no exact science. You can have
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  Speaker 2: all the stuff in the world in front of you,
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  Speaker 2: all the information in front of you. You can have
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  Speaker 2: every underlying number, every testing number, every mental number, everything.
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  Speaker 2: You could have it all in front of your hands,
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  Speaker 2: and you still may miss. There's a human element. The
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  Speaker 2: human element is probably a lot of times it's built
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  Speaker 2: in bias. There's no such thing as objectivity for a
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  Speaker 2: human being in the planet. There just isn't. Somebody tries
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  Speaker 2: to tell you that, tell them they're foolish because there isn't.
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  Speaker 2: You have built in biases. You have built in subjective
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  Speaker 2: natures and decision making. That's just the world we live in.
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  Speaker 2: That's called part of being a human being. I do
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  Speaker 2: laugh at times when I hear, Greg, all due respect
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  Speaker 2: to you outside the room here and others. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we said the newspaper business were objective.
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  Speaker 3: No, you're not. You're not.
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  Speaker 2: You have a built-in bias in how you're going to
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  Speaker 2: write a story. You're a human being. You can attempt to.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you go the other way too far. But there's
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  Speaker 2: no such thing as complete objectivity. So when you're talent evaluation,
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  Speaker 2: you do have built-in biases. You have built-in thoughts. You
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  Speaker 2: have gut feels. And I think with all those things happening, Ash,
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  Speaker 2: because of that, you're not going to be perfect in
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  Speaker 2: talent evaluation.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And part of talent evaluation also is deciding how you're
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  Speaker 2: going to manipulate and manage a salary cap. And in
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  Speaker 2: the case of it, it's a big part of it, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because then you're, it's kind of the, it's, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's the supply and demand. It's basic economics. It's like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I need this, but do I pay that? Can I
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  Speaker 2: get away with not doing that? Oh, can I use
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  Speaker 2: a first round pick on a rent? Whatever it might be.
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  Speaker 2: And I think in the case here of, of Walker,
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  Speaker 2: you know, people are losing their collective minds because a,
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks running game is absolutely abysmal. Um, The rush offense,
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  Speaker 2: it's funny because it's 18th in the NFL with maybe
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  Speaker 2: the most deceiving numbers ever. They're averaging over 107 yards
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  Speaker 2: a game, but that's deceiving. That's based on a big
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  Speaker 2: run or two here or there, a scramble here or there,
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  Speaker 2: whatever it might be. It's a very deceiving number. But
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  Speaker 2: then you look down in Kansas City and you see
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  Speaker 2: Ken Walker, and he's going bananas, and he's going nuts.
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  Speaker 2: And you're asking yourself, man, what's happening here? Like, why,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what's happening? Why have we not seen, you know,
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  Speaker 2: why is Ken Walker there and not here? Why did
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  Speaker 2: they pay him or pay Rashid Shaheed and not Ken Walker?
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  Speaker 2: So all those questions come into play. I'd point out
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  Speaker 2: as well that, you know, this season, Seattle's had one
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  Speaker 2: 300-yard passing game. That came in a loss. Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 2: threw for 379 to the Commanders. They have not had, obviously.
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  Speaker 2: a 100-yard rusher this season. Seattle hasn't. So there's questions,
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  Speaker 2: and rightfully so, there's questions. But John Schneider hasn't lost
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  Speaker 2: his fastball in any way. He hasn't lost his fastball.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 5: And if we expect every GM or every person, every coach,
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  Speaker 5: every person we put in charge of these things to
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  Speaker 5: be perfect 100% of the time, we're not recognizing that
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  Speaker 5: we're dealing with actual humans.
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  Speaker 2: Actual humans. An actual human, by the way, just walked
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  Speaker 2: in here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: With intern Lily is here, too.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 2: His name is Jaron Reed.
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  Speaker 3: What's going on? What's up, my man? I haven't seen
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  Speaker 3: you for a while. Yeah. You know, I've been still here.
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  Speaker 3: I know. Yeah. I'm not here as much. Good to
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  Speaker 3: see you.
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you, too, man. Let's get right into it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's evaluate this team so far. You guys aren't where
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  Speaker 2: you want to be, I'm sure, in terms of record,
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  Speaker 2: but how do you feel about how things are going?
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  Speaker 7: Man, I still think we're a very well-connected team You know,
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  Speaker 7: I just think we're just waiting to play well on
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  Speaker 7: all three phases of the game.
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  Speaker 3: And all's going to come, you know. It happens.
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  Speaker 7: It's the NFL. Of course, we're going to get everybody's
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  Speaker 7: best A game. We've got to bring ours every game.
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  Speaker 2: Jim, what's it like behind closed doors in terms of how–
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  Speaker 2: because this team, you won a Super Bowl, and it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't like you guys went 17-0. So there were ups
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  Speaker 2: and downs last year. In fact, you had the same
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  Speaker 2: record at one point last year at 3-2. So there
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  Speaker 2: were ups and downs, but take us into that room.
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  Speaker 2: How's the attitude? Do you feel pressure? What is it
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  Speaker 2: that we don't see in media, what fans don't see,
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  Speaker 2: that they need to know about how this team is
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  Speaker 2: behind closed doors?
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  Speaker 7: There's no pressure. Of course we know we need to
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  Speaker 7: pull these games out and win these closed games, but
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  Speaker 7: we're just sticking to course, man. We know what we're doing.
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  Speaker 7: We trust our process. We trust everybody in the building.
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  Speaker 7: We trust our coaches. We trust ourselves. It's going to
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  Speaker 7: turn around. We just got full of faith. We still
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  Speaker 7: practice hard. Everything we're doing is still the same, and
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  Speaker 7: it's going to turn around for sure.
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  Speaker 2: You're one of the true team leaders on this team.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked about that over the years and where that
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  Speaker 2: came from, the lineage that you're part of. You're part
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  Speaker 2: of this group with Mike and Cliff and those guys
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  Speaker 2: that kind of led you down the road. Now you're
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  Speaker 2: that guy along the way. We'll get to that in
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  Speaker 2: a second. But just in terms of that, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to let you say it. Let's talk about your quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: You tell me.
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  Speaker 2: You're a defensive guy. Tell us about the quarterback. Tell
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  Speaker 2: us about Sam, what you feel about.
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  Speaker 3: Him right now. I feel Sam is a great leader, man.
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  Speaker 3: He's a great leader, great quarterback.
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  Speaker 7: We're not wavering from him at all. We trust Sam
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  Speaker 7: in everything he does and decisions that he makes. We're
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  Speaker 7: behind him the full way. Whatever they have to figure
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  Speaker 7: out to get going, they got to figure it out
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  Speaker 7: and they're going to.
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  Speaker 3: Everything's going to turn around for the better.
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  Speaker 2: You've been on teams that that's not the case, right?
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  Speaker 2: There's been a division with the offense and the defense,
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming, over the years.
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  Speaker 3: Heck, I I won't go into.
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  Speaker 2: Two specifics, but I think it happened here at one point, too.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: So you've been through that before. How do you guys
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  Speaker 2: stay connected, offense, defense, as a whole team? Well, we're
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  Speaker 2: a brotherhood. That's part of my ties. That's part of
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  Speaker 2: the 12 is one. You know, just we don't point
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  Speaker 2: fingers at anybody. We control what we can. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to show up every day. Our guy Jaron
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  Speaker 2: Reed is with us right now. Big one this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's a big one this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like, it's, I mean, just as a fan, like, I
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  Speaker 2: think this is, you just, you've got to be excited.
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City rolls in here, Mahomes. I heard they have
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  Speaker 2: a new running back, some other stuff, Andy Reid. Let
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  Speaker 2: me go into that room. You played there. You know
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  Speaker 2: what that culture's like there. What is it about them
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  Speaker 2: that makes them so special every year?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, man, they have a great coach. Andy Reid is
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  Speaker 7: a great guy. Spags is a great guy. They trust
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  Speaker 7: their process as well. They're a well-knit team. They've been
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  Speaker 7: playing together for a long time. Same situation is here.
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  Speaker 7: We've been together for three years. They've been together for longer,
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  Speaker 7: but They got great camaraderie. It's old school football, you know,
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  Speaker 7: with new principals, same type of ordeal. And I don't
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  Speaker 7: think it's going to be a great game, man. They're
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  Speaker 7: a good team. It's off to them, but we're a
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  Speaker 7: good team as well.
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  Speaker 2: Jaren, Mike Holman is a big part of our radio station.
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  Speaker 2: We all have Mike on for years, love him. And
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  Speaker 2: he's obviously, he was the guy that kind of the
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  Speaker 2: tutor for, and he came from his tree.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Andy Reid's a Hall of Famer. He's going to go
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  Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame as soon as he wants to,
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  Speaker 2: as soon as he's done coaching. What is it about
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  Speaker 2: Andy Reid that separates him from other coaches? Because you
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  Speaker 2: watch him afar, you see this big grizzly bear of
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  Speaker 2: a gentleman looking like a sideline, but you look at
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  Speaker 2: the record, the numbers speak for themselves. What is it
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  Speaker 2: about him that makes him special?
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  Speaker 7: I think it's the way that he demands the players,
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  Speaker 7: demands greatness. You know, if anything's going wrong, he calls
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  Speaker 7: out what he sees, no matter who it is, and
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  Speaker 7: he demands greatness from his players. And, you know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: he never wavers. You know, any things go bad, he doesn't, like,
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  Speaker 7: try to go in and change what they're doing and
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  Speaker 7: change the process. You just get better at what you're doing,
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  Speaker 7: and I think he does a good job of that.
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  Speaker 2: I say that because you got a guy here that's
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  Speaker 2: a little bit younger than Andy, about 30 years, but
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  Speaker 2: a little bit younger. Here we are in year three
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  Speaker 2: of Mike McDonald. Good 10-win season the first year. Lombardi
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  Speaker 2: Trophy sits out in the hallway for second year. I
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  Speaker 2: know you guys will turn it around at some point
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  Speaker 2: during this year, but you've been around Mike now long enough.
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  Speaker 2: You were around Pete for those years. You've been around Randy.
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  Speaker 2: You've been lucky. You've been around some pretty damn good
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  Speaker 2: coaches over your years, right?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us about Mike in year three. We saw him
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  Speaker 2: on hard knocks. We saw this guy's kind of a nerd,
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  Speaker 2: but he's kind of a good nerd, but he's got
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  Speaker 2: that presence about him. How does he balance that where
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  Speaker 2: he can relate to a guy like you?
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  Speaker 7: Well, Mike takes control, man. He's a great coach, very
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  Speaker 7: sturdy guy. And I'm very headstrong, and that's what you
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  Speaker 7: need as a head coach, man. He's not afraid to
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  Speaker 7: attack what needs to be attacked. He's not afraid to
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  Speaker 7: say what needs to be said, and he demands great
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  Speaker 7: affirmations as well.
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  Speaker 3: I like his thinking. I like his methods.
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  Speaker 7: I like how he attacks everything and gets us going,
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  Speaker 7: and we trust him, and we trust his process.
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  Speaker 2: The process this week, Jared, read with us, is going
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  Speaker 2: to be canine. Like, you know he's come. Like, you
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  Speaker 2: know that they're going to make him. He's been a
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  Speaker 2: focal point all year anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You guys know him. You know him as well as anybody.
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  Speaker 2: He knows you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Excited about the matchup and why?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, very excited. I mean, K-9 is my friend. It's
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  Speaker 3: my guy. But, you know, on Sunday, there's no friends.
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  Speaker 2: I was just going to say, does Jaren Reed have
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  Speaker 2: a friend on the other team on Sunday?
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  Speaker 3: Nah, nah, nah.
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  Speaker 7: You know, well, you know, it's a good offense, good defense. And,
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  Speaker 7: you know, just speaking on our side of the ball,
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  Speaker 7: you know, we're going.
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  Speaker 3: To be ready to play.
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  Speaker 2: What does it separate him, K-9? What separates him from other?
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  Speaker 2: You go against good running backs every week. What separates him?
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  Speaker 7: I think K-9 is a complete back. Um, He's got–
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  Speaker 7: if you don't play a sound gap, he can hurt you.
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  Speaker 7: He's an explosive back, complete, three-down back. And, you know,
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  Speaker 7: whenever he gets the ball in his hands, he's always electric. So,
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  Speaker 7: you know, we got to get the left-hands to the ball.
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  Speaker 2: You got the other guy that plays quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: He's back. He's healthy.
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  Speaker 2: You were around him for a while.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Pat Mahomes.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about him, what makes him special, what separates him.
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Pat's a true leader, man. He's a dog mentality.
• 14:18
  Speaker 7: He has, like, the high-level quarterback play mixed with some
• 14:21
  Speaker 7: backyard play. And, yeah, they're good at what they do, man.
• 14:26
  Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, you know, we
• 14:28
  Speaker 7: got to get ready to play Sunday, man. It's 11
• 14:30
  Speaker 7: on 11.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: Does it drive you nuts as a defensive lineman when
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: you see Mahomes, especially when you're going against him, when
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: you see him, he does that little thing where he's
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: going to run. It looks like he might slide or
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: step out of bounds. And then he tries to get
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: like 10 more yards because you can't hit him.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: How do you balance that, man? Like you got to
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: be able to kill the guy at that point.
• 14:46
  Speaker 7: You haul ass to the ball and you hit him.
• 14:50
  Speaker 7: And if he slides, you just fly over the top.
• 14:52
  Speaker 7: You don't stop.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: They protect quarterbacks too much this league, don't they?
• 14:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: Huh?
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: You know, everybody has an opinion for sure. What's your opinion?
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 15:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: You're not going to get fined for saying that.
• 15:03
  Speaker 7: I think, I definitely think they do, you know, which
• 15:06
  Speaker 7: they can go all the way around the board, especially
• 15:07
  Speaker 7: if the guy's on defense.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's the way of life. They don't protect you guys.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: Not at all.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: They don't protect you guys. I'll wrap it up with this,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Jaron Reed. We've talked about this here. I just love,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: I'm always fascinated by this. Just, your story's great. Um,
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Watching you evolve has been awesome, just watching from the
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: young guy coming in here, from Bam and everything like that.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: But you're the guy now. You're the alpha dog in
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: that room so many times. You're trying to lead the
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: young Derek Halls world. But you've got guys like Chena
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: and DeMarcus and others in there too. But how much
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: do you embrace the role? Because we saw Cooper do
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: that a lot in hard knocks, right? And Cooper kind
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: of really does on the offensive side in his own way.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: We saw a little bit of you on Hard Knocks.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: I wanted to see more, by the way. I wanted
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: to see more.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: I'll stay away from it.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Did you stay away from it?
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Did you really try to stay away from it? Yes.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Guys, I was telling people I said that. I tell
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: you what, if they want to have some fun, they'll
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: put a mic on Jeremy.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay?
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: But how much do you just embrace the role that
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: you're in right now? You're a key player on the field.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: But I know what Mike said and stuff. You're probably
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: as important off the field for this team. How much
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: do you just embrace being that?
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's good, man. I really appreciate that.
• 16:11
  Speaker 7: But, you know, I've got a lot to give to
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: the guys being one of the last guys in the building.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: You know, just being here, you know, for a minute.
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: And just letting the guys know the way of life,
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: you know, how we attack stuff, just the mindset that,
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: you know, we've got to take on as a team
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: to be a great championship caliber team.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: And, you know, in the room there's a lot of
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: great guys like that.
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: You know, Leo, Chana, E.J., You know, we have some
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: real dogs on the team. You know, every guy has
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: their calling. And sometimes I can chat a little bit
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: to get the guys going. But, you know, it's all
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: just to make sure we're all on the same page.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: You won't have to do that this weekend. I'll wrap
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: it up with this. I had Dee Holland here a
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: couple weeks ago. We're talking about San Francisco. You've been
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: here through the highs and the lows. I would say
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: the lows in 2023 when all of a sudden you're
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: looking out there and there's like more Pittsburgh fans or
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: 49er fans in the building than there were Seattle fans.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: That's not the case anymore.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Lumen Field's back. Yeah.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Lumen Field's back. What do you guys need? What do
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: you need from Lumen Field and what difference? Because there
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: is a rumor that Kansas City is a louder stadium.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: I've been to both. Yeah, well. I don't think so,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: but what do you need from the 12s this weekend?
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: Down here in Lumen, first of all, fill all the
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: seats in. We don't need to see no red. It
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: needs to be all Cs of blue. And fill it
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: in and get loud, man. We need the decimals up.
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: I don't think– have we made people jump off sides.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Yet this year?
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: No.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: That's what we need. We need a loud rock. We
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: need another earthquake. You need it.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: He's 24. I just saw him at the hockey game
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: last night. Maybe he can roll in there and get
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: a couple carries.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: We definitely need another earthquake, man.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Beast quake or something. Do they make a difference?
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: They absolutely make a difference, man. They bring energy to us. Yeah.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, it's great seeing you. I appreciate you coming in.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, you get a lot of requests, so I
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: appreciate you doing this.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Thank you, man. It's a big week.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: That's our guy, Jaren Reed. We'll take a quick break.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Come back with more 9-3.3 KGFM.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the Huskies, Kraken,
• 18:24
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• 18:27
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• 18:31
  Speaker 1: All right, we're.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Back here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. Big thanks
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: to Jaron Reed for stopping by. I love having those
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: conversations with him. Usually get a couple during the course
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: of a year. So that was good to hear from him.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Talking about Kansas City, Ken Walker, Pat Mahomes, Andy Reid.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Number one total offense in the NFL against the number
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: one total defense on Sunday Night Football.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Let's get better than that.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Here's the head coach, Mike McDonald, just a couple moments ago.
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: Good to see everybody.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: You as well.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: Hope we're doing well. Happy Wednesday. Really looking forward to
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: today's practice. I feel like it's been a while since
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: we've been really out there. So expect a great practice today.
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: Should be fun.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Mike, screens.
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: Andy Reid's known for them. Obviously, K-9 is known for
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: them as well. You guys have had some challenges there.
• 19:20
  Speaker 8: How do you take steps against that.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: Part of the game? Yeah, we looked at the screens
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: over the weekend. I think there's a couple big plays
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: that distort the– it's like every old school defensive coordinator
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: is like, if you take out all the bad plays,
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: you're playing great defense. You know, so– Offenses are allowed
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: to run any play they want to, and our job
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: is to stop it. It'll always be a point of
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: assist for us. It's a team play. It's not any
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: individual player. We've got to do a great job identifying
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: it and getting everybody to the party.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: With Ken, what do you think of the start he's
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: off to in Kansas City?
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: Off to a tremendous start. Stats back it up. Tape
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: definitely backs it up. He's playing great football.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Did they use him in a different way than you did?
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Did you notice anything that's not what you saw him
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: used in Seattle?
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: They're executing their offense and he's moving the ball. He's scoring.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: He's doing a great job.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: They're under center a lot more this.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: Year than last. Probably more frequently than they have in
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: the past.
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: How does that help a running back and how does
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: that hinder a defense.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: In a run game?
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: Probably I just, I think it's a methods principle saying,
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: I think there's been really effective teams that have run
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: out of the gun. I know that the trend nowadays
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: is for more under center. Uh, certain runs are probably
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: better out of, out of certain sets. So, um, you know,
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: it also sets up different parts of your, of your game.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: It's just, you know, you move people and that, that
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: provides like limitations on things that you can and can't do.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: It's just, uh, how everything's set up. So, um, They're
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: blocking it well under center. Ken's seeing it great. He's
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: running at a high level.
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: You've coached against Andy several times. They brought Eric Bien-Ami
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: back this year. How do you see him having an
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: impact in their offense returning there? How do you see
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: him having an influence on what they're doing?
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: It's been a couple years since we went up against
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: the Chiefs. I have a lot of respect for Coach Bien-Ami.
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: He's He's a great football coach. Andy Reid's obviously probably
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: the best there is football coach. It's quite a tag team.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: I can speak for this year. They're playing really complimentary football.
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: They're playing team football. They're staying ahead of the sticks.
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: They're very, very efficient. They're also the most explosive offense
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: in the league. Very few penalties, very few takeaways. They're
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: a great unit.
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: Mahomes is obviously coming off the injury and all that.
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: Does it seem like he's doing any different stylistically or
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: anything than he was when he was younger, when you
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: faced him before?
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, if you didn't know, it'd be hard
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: to tell off the tape that he's dealt with what
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: he's dealt with, which is impressive. He's kind of like
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: Zach in terms of the timetable. He's playing at a
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: high level. He's very decisive on early downs, getting the
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: ball out of his hands, executing their RPO game at
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: a high level. All the stuff they're doing under center,
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: like Greg was saying, is not saying new, but probably
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: a little bit more emphasized, which is impressive to understand.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: It's probably physically tougher on the QB to work from
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: under center, so that speaks to his health. Then he's
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: doing his thing when it's time to pass. Looks like
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: the Pat Mahomes to me.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: When you look at Kansas City's defense, what do you
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: see in pressure rates versus the sacks?
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Because I think those numbers aren't quite matching up.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I can speak to my experience with Coach Spaggs.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: He's a heck of a football coach. His track record
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: speaks for it. They're very aggressive. He does a great
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: job game planning. His team plays on one accord. They
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: have an identity and style of play that you respect.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: And They definitely have, like, you know, Chiefs fingerprints on
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: their tape, which is a compliment to them.
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: When you've studied, you know, all the defensive great coordinators
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: over the years, when you look at Spagnuolo, what does
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: he do that allows him to create pressure in all
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: these big games and big moments?
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: I think he has a great understanding of systematically how
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: to approach a team rather than just, you know, I
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: think sometimes when you turn the tape on, there's a
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: lot of pressures and there's a lot of things, you know,
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: like flying in magic. It's like you can mistake it
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: by saying that they're just kind of throwing paint against
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: the wall, but I think really the opposite is true
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: on how targeted he is. So it speaks to Spaggs.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: I know there's a few other guys on his staff.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: They have a great staff, and they've been doing it
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: really at a high level for a long time. So, again,
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: nothing but respect for those guys.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Dave, what... Dave.
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: kind of killed outside zone, uh, defensively, you guys major
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: in that. You've actually had more success with some of
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: the man runs when you've done it, but it's not,
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: not your major. How do you kind of balance sticking
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: with your major versus adjusting to opponent?
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Like, how does that work?
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: Well, I think it's, it's a scale. Uh, I think
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: just systematically, like our philosophy is we always want to
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: keep it within our wheelhouse and then, and then we'll
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: kind of target within the wheelhouse towards, towards our opponent. Um,
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: From really reviewing our run game this weekend, I think
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: we can still run wide zone at a high level.
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: There's a little bit more variance than you probably want,
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: but it does kind of come with the territory to
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: a certain extent. We're going to run wide zone against everybody.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: How much goes into each game plan, obviously, and then
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: how you sprinkle in all the other types of run
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: concepts is both a matter of who we have Structurally,
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: where they go, what you expect from them in terms
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: of how they're going to defend certain sets, that sort
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: of thing.
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: Speaking of that, what's been your assessment of the offensive
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: line so far?
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: I think you could fill in the blank for our
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: football team right now. I think the effort is there.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: I think the attitude is there, intent's there, but there's
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: room for growth. I'd like to see us take another
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: step this week. really just in terms of decisiveness and
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: targeting and then going to let it rip, you know,
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: and trusting our guys' ability because we've got some good players.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: How do you do that?
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: Do you go back and look at plays from earlier
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: in the season or from last year, or is it
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: just a conversation?
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: Individual conversations, that could be on the table for sure.
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: When you see a player who you've seen for a
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: season or longer play a certain level, and then they're
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: not playing on that level over the last however many games.
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: Where does your mind go to try to figure out
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: why there's a.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: Change in performance? As a coach, our natural inclination is
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: that we can do something about it. We take a
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: lot of pride in being able to get the best
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: out of our players. If we're not achieving that or
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: it's not congruent, then the first thing we're going to
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: do is look at what we're doing, what we can
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: do better to help the player out. And obviously having
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: a relationship with the player and having that connection to
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: understand what's going on input-wise on their end, I think
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: that goes a long way as well. So that's our approach.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: And then it's just through and around type conversations. Instead
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: of just, you're going to play better, it's like, well,
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: how do we help you play better? What are the
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: things that we can do that are under our control
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: to nail it and take those steps? Mike, do you
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: expect Drake to practice today? Drake's not going to practice today, no.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: And then this is a very basic question, but I'm
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: hoping you can give a detailed answer, or somewhat detailed answer.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: What makes a run defense good, or what makes a
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: team good at stopping the run? Fundamentals.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: Blocking and tackling, man. There's different ways to do it.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: Kansas City defends the run. They have a different kind
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: of structure than we do, and they do it at
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: a high level. So I think it's a thorough understanding
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: of of how they're going to fit things and what
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: they're going to call and what type of structures they
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: want to be in. And that's probably predicated off of
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: things that they believe in and their, their personnel, um,
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: for us, you know, I think it's the same thinking,
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: what our personnel is, some of the things that we
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: believe in and what we feel comfortable teaching. Uh, I
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: think that the through line though is just fundamentals like,
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: you know, block destruction, how you're going to play blocks,
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: how you're going to leverage the football. Uh, it's not
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: just the front, you know, I mean, you see, The
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: ball gets out, it's either a missed tackle or multiple
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: missed tackles or a bad leverage or a bad angle
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: by the third level player. So it's got to be
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: team defense.
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: Mike, on the flip side of that, your offense, how
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: do you message them starting fast without pressing and just
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: let the game come to them but be decisive.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Like you said?
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: I think it's that. You say you want to start fast,
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: that's a product of being decisive. You can't control starting fast.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: You can control your mentality, how well you're on your assignments.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: how well we're aligned to what we're going to call
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: and when. Those are the things that we can take
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: a step in.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Mike, you.
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: Guys have been in two back personnel, less than ten
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: plays the last couple games. Has that been more about
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: just the product of who you guys are playing and
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: game planning, or is it something where you guys are
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: trying to figure out how you can filter that more
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: back into the office, especially since Robbie hasn't been available
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: this year?
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: I think it's been multiple things. I wouldn't discount it.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: That's something that we're not going to go back to.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: That's definitely still on the table to be in 21
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: and have Brady be out there. Brady's played good football
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: for us.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: We know the why, Mike, the why of Kenneth Walker's
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: in Kansas City, but from a football perspective, have you
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: had second thoughts or what-ifs or anything about that?
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: I'll just say, like, I love Ken. I thought I
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: thoroughly enjoyed him being on our football team. We've had
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: some great, like, One-on-one comedy. I feel like we have
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: a great relationship. I respect the heck out of him.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: I'm happy for him. Obviously, we have to do a
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: great job of stopping him this week. I think there's
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: mixed emotions in terms of you're happy for him, but
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: also we're trying to figure out ways to stop this guy, too,
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: because he's playing at a really high level.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: How did it end?
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  Speaker 9: Because you went to Disneyland with him, if I remember,
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: after the Super Bowl.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. was there a departure, a chance to say goodbye
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: or any of that? Or did he just leave with
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: his decision? And that was that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: Well, I think for everybody after the Superbowl, no one's
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: really hanging out, but yeah, we, we, we drove, we
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: had this big, we had a media session. We, it
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: was just us in the, you know, in the van
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: for like an hour. I mean, we're talking all sorts
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: of stuff, you know, um, really nothing about football. So that, that's,
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: that's what I'm referencing is just, um, I have nothing
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: but great memories for Ken. We appreciate the heck out
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: of him. He's a Super Bowl MVP. He helped us
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: win a championship. These things happen. We have to move
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: forward now. I have nothing but great things and great
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: memories of Ken. To follow up on Tim's question about
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: their run defense, you talk about.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: Everybody doing their 1.09 versus 12 is 1.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: The style of defense you play, a lot of two
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: high safeties.
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: The work the guys have to do up front and
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: run defensively, I guess it's kind of how intricate is
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: that and what they're able to do that allows you.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: To play the way you want.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: Well, I'd say it's not as intricate as you might imagine.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: It's just a hard ask, you know, and it takes
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: great players to do that. It takes great coaches to
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: get that done and get the guys to buy in
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: to play that way. We try to take stress off.
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: Believe it or not, we do try to take stress
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: off our defense, our D lineman as much as we can.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: But I'd say it's more of like a targeted approach,
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: but it definitely starts up front with how we play him.
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: We've played our best football. Those guys are on fire,
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: and they're playing great, and they set the tone for
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: the rest of the defense. I think they're the first
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: ones to say when we're not meeting up to our standard,
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: they could play better as well. They're great guys, great attitude.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: They set the tone for us.
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: This may not be the best question for you, but
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: in terms of men in the box on defense, you
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: tend to like to have a lighter box there. How
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: much of it is determined by the quality of the
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: run game that a team's going against versus the quality
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: of the backfield?
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: Who's in the backfield? I would say not all coverage structures.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: More people doesn't equal better run defense. There's ways to
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: manipulate who has who and wherever. You put everybody in here,
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: out here is lighter. You drain this guy out, it's
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: the same amount of guys you have in split safety.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: It's not like one-to-one all the time. We used to think, hey,
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: we just blitz the run. We know it's run. Why
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: don't we just blitz 11 guys? Well, a guy gets
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: cut out and the ball is out the gate. You
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: thought you were sweet for blitzing it, but the result
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: doesn't tell you you're sweet.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Good stuff there, Mike McDonald.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: It's just easy. Just blitz every time. That's what you do.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Easy football. All right.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Good stuff there. I thought Greg's question at the end
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: was fantastic. No second guessing on Ken Walker. But, yeah,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: obviously that's what we've been talking about. We'll kind of
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: wrap up the first hour with that conversation. Get some
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: college football in the 1 o'clock hour. Stuart Mandell is
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: going to join us. We'll get Corbin in here as
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: well at 2 o'clock, all on 93.3 KGRFM.
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: For a career high in carries.
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: Is that at all surprising for you that he's able
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: to handle that volume of work so far?
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: No. Oh, that was good. Short and sweet.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: It was the best.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: And then he just smiled.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Like, no. No.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: That's it. And then you hear Dave Pearson. Anything else?
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Anything else?
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: No.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: No. Ken Walker is number two behind only B. John
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Robinson in the NFL right now in terms of yards
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: after contact. Among all the other things he's done, he's
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: number two in that category right now. The more you
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: watch this team and the Seahawks that is without Ken Walker,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: the more you ask yourself, why? What are we you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: like what's going on here. And that's kind of our
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: conversation today. You know, you heard Mike McDonald talk about it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you can't keep everybody. It doesn't work
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: that way. And it's a salary cap league. There's a
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: lot of things going on. Ashley, at the end of
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: the day, I think it's safe to say everyone would
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: have wanted to have Ken Walker back, but I'll just,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: I'll kind of wrap up my thoughts on this with
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: it this week. I think when John Schneider has gotten
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: away from who and what he is and It's when
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: he's taken big risks and kind of taken a flyer
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: because in some cases, basically 15, 16, 17, those years,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: you had a roster that was already built with a foundation.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: You're just trying to plug and play a couple key guys,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: and they got away from it. The Malik McDowell's of
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: the world, guys like that, they just took too many risks.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: The Walker thing wasn't a risk. It was a conscientious
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: decision on both sides, his and the Seahawks, To move on,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: not pay and compensate what you could get elsewhere. And
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think you can judge it today. I don't
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: think you can judge it this year. I think you
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: have to see what happens over the next two or
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: three years with both Price, Jadarian Price, and with Ken Walker. Now,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: if Ken Walker over the next, say, minimum two years
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: has 1,800-yard seasons and 350 touches and is doing what
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: he's doing right now, and he does that this year,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: the entire year, and next year, the entire year, and
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: is healthy, and Jadarian Price is not healthy and isn't
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: an impact player, then I think is when you start
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: having a criticism of the decision. But I think it's
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: just too early because there are so many factors in
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: play here. Would we all want to see Ken Walker here? 100%.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Would you want to see Ken Walker here and then
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden he's hurt? Well, then what are
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: you left with? A big salary cap hit. And Jadarian
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Price is way too early in his career to make
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: any judgments. But we all know so far it has
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: not been great. It does not look good. It has
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: not been advantageous for this team. And he's not helped
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: the team. But I think it's just way too early
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: to make any true judgments other than, boy, we wish
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Ken Walker was here. Damn right we do. We definitely
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: wish Ken Walker was here.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: But he's not. So we got to move on. Right.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Got to move on.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: And there's no part of it that would be fair
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: for us to put the expectations of what Ken Walker
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: is doing, what he did in the playoffs and what
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: he's doing right now on Jadarian Price.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Who is a rookie.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Like we didn't have this from Ken Walker the majority
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: of the time he was here either. So, I mean,
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: it's just going to take some patience. But does it
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: make it harder to watch right now?
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Sunday could be that day. Like Sunday night could be that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Like when you're watching, the problem with Sunday night is
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: if Walker does his Walker thing that he's done all
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: season this year, and he does that Sunday against Seattle
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: and the Chiefs win, it's going to be a rough
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Monday and a rough next week for this organization and
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: for Schneider. But if the Seahawks win, it doesn't matter
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: what Walker does. It really won't. Just win.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Just win.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: They're going against a hell of a defense. Like, that's just–
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: let's also remember that. We just had Jaron Reed in here.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: They're a hell of a defense.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: He even said that.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I think one of the answers he said was, like,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: we're really good too.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you are.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: You're the best defense in the NFL, period, end of story.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: But I just think the Walker– yeah, Ken Walker versus
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price. And if you want to include Rashid Shaheed
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: in there, you can.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I get it. I don't.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: There's some I don't I just don't ever believe that
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: that was hey we could either have Rashid Shaheed or
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: we could have Ken Walker I don't think that was
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: the decision I think it was we didn't get Ken
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Walker let's keep Rashid Shaheed because we're not going to
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: value and Rashid Shaheed he's a different player he's a
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: totally different player now has he been a disappointment production
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: wise yeah I don't know how much that's his fault
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: to be honest with you right as much as play
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: calling and usage and we saw them kind of force
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: feed him a little bit more last week and then
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: there's a drop and Yeah, that's what happens when you're
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: defending champions and you're 3-3. Lots of questions. Lots of questions.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: And they're fair questions.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: They're fair questions. But at the end of the day,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: last I checked, this organization, this GM and this head
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: coach have led you to a Super Bowl, and the
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: GM's done it twice. So I'm not too worried yet.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: But it'll be– there's no shortage of storylines. There's no
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: shortage of drama. And if Walker goes crazy, there will
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: be no shortage, none whatsoever, no shortage of– frustration from
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Seahawks fans on Monday as well.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break. We've got Stuart Mandel
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: coming up at the 1 o'clock hour, talk some college football.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Got an update on NBA stuff as well we'll get to.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: So all that and the NBA, not the league, I
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: don't care. Although I guess I did see that LeBron's
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: playing center now and flying the games in a helicopter.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I don't care about that. We care about what's going
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: on with the local team and will there be a
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: local team in the future of the NBA here. We'll
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: get to all that coming up on 93.3 KJR FM.