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Tova Noel And The Transcript From Her Congressional Testimony (Part 7) (6/21/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
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  left off with a toven O Well interview with Congress.
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  Question okay, thank you. And on July thirtieth, a staff
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  psychologist from the Psychological Department sent an email to over
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  seventy staff BOP staff stating that Epstein quote needs to
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  be housed with an appropriate cell mate. Did you receive
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  that email? Answer? I never saw that email? Question okay?
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  Were you aware of it existing? Answer after the fact?
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  Question okay? And how did you find out about the email?
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  Answer when I was questioned? Question okay, so no one
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  mentioned it to you before? Answer no question okay. Do
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  you recall ever being aware of the fact that Epstein
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  needed to have a cell mate? Answer no, question okay.
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  And email says an appropriate cellmate. Do you have any
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  understanding of what an appropriate cell mate would have been
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  in this instance? Answer no, because Warden has to make
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  that call. Question okay. And so it's our understanding that
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  on July thirtieth, when he came back to the Shoe,
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  Epstein was assigned an inmate named Dephyan Reyes as a
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  cell mate, and that Reys remained a cell mate until
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  August ninth. Is that your understanding? Answer? Correct question? Okay.
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  And on August eighth, Epstein met with his attorneys and
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  changed his last will and testament? Did you have any
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  knowledge that he had done that at the time? Answer
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  after the fact, at the time, no question, You learned
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  after he died? Answer correct question. Okay, You didn't hear
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  anyone else mention it or anything days leading up to it?
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  Answer no question, okay. And then the OIG also reported
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  that Epstein's Daly routine was to meet with his attorneys
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  in the conference room. You mentioned that as well. Are
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  you aware of that? Was that happening on August eighth?
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  Was that his schedule? Answer? Yeah, question okay, mister Foy,
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  you said August eighth redacted, Yes, when he signed out
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  his last will and testament? Noel, Yes question, and you
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  were working that day? Answer August eighth, yes, question okay,
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  that's all from me. Question. We're going to go if
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  we can. I think one of the members present has
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  a few questions you'd like to ask, So we're gonna
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  go down there. Mister Submaranium, thank you. I apologize I
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  have to leave a little early, but thank you for
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  being here. I appreciate you coming voluntarily and answering these questions.
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  You said something earlier about you not received any sort
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  of compensation for anything related to Jeffrey Epstein and no
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  one Noel, correct question. Does that apply to anyone that
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  you know, any friends, relatives? Noel, anything in regards to
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  mister Epstein. I've never received any money, mister Submaranian. And
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  what were those bank account payments for, for instance, the
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  five thousand dollars one, Noel, my savings, my personal savings Submaranium.
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  So do you you were shifting money from one account
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  to another? Well, no, I do savings challenges for myself, Summaranium.
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  Oh I see, so you were going you were sending
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  money to a savings account Noel, No, not sending like
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  I save. I do savings challenge books. Somemerannium, okay, Noel.
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  And when I get to my goal, I deposit my
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  money Somemeranium. Oh so you were saving it personally and
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  then you deposited the money all at once? Was it
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  a cash deposit? Noel, yes, Somemerannium, okay, thank you. And
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  then do you have any reason to believe that Jeffrey
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  Epstein did not commit suicide, Noel, no somemaranium or died
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  in any other way, Noel, No question, because you had
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  mentioned that you didn't actually see him hanging, Noel, correct
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  question in a previous interview. But you strongly believe that
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  there's no other You've ruled out any other sort of death, Noel, Right,
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  because there was no one else in there, somemaranium. Great.
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  And then you did an interview with the DOJ in
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  twenty twenty one, you said That'll Loud placed Jeffrey Epstein
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  in the shower to make a twenty minute personal, un
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  monitored phone call to his girlfriend in Belarus. Is that correct, Noel.
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  I don't know who he made the phone call to,
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  but I know he was placed in there to make
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  a phone call, not by a lieutenant by Bullock, a
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  counselor unit counselor question, unit counselor. Yeah, you mentioned that earlier.
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  You also told investigators that Epstein was the only person
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  to be allowed to have a long cord for his
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  sleep apnea machine. Noel, correct question. Could you tell me
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  more about that? Why was he able to get a
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  sleep apnea machine? Answer? So that would have had to
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  been authorized by like psychologists or the warden. But he
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  was the only one in the shoe that has a
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  seapap machine. And the way how the tears are like,
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  they're up and down, so he was on the upper
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  So the seapap is in the cell and there's a
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  long cord that has to extend out of the cell
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  to reach down because he's up to meet an outlet Summeranian. Okay,
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  would he have been able to he haanked that cord out, Noel, absolutely, question.
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  This would have been the warden that would have cleared this,
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  Noel or the psychologist. I don't know who makes the
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  decision to allow him to have a seapat machine or
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  who gave it to him. Question. And then this is
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  a long time ago, so it may be hard to remember.
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  But when you were walking through and when you saw
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  his cell, did you notice any extra bed linens that
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  may have been in the cell? Noel? No After Summeranian
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  afterwards you notice that. Do you know why he was
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  given extra bed linens? Noel, So I'm not aware of
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  him having extra bed linen. He had linen on his
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  bed and Reyes had linen on his bed. Question. Okay, yeah,
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  there was some reporting that he had extra bed linen, Noel,
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  I'm not aware of that. Question. Is it common for
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  someone in the shoe to have extra bed linens? Noel?
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  No question. Was there anything else as far as Jeffrey
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  Epstein's treatment that you would consider like special treatment that
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  was unique from other people people who were there? Noel,
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  I don't know who allowed him to have his medication
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  that's not supposed to be submaranium by medication. Which medication
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  are you talking about? Answer? I don't know which, But
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  he had a bunch of medication in his cell. In
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  the shoe, A nurse comes and administers medication to other inmates.
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  I don't know who allowed him to have his own
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  personal medication. Question. And then one of the files in
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  the FBI's library of Epstein files includes an account that
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  alleges Epstein met with a guard with the first name James,
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  only days before Epstein was found dead. Do you know
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  who James is, Noel, James. Question. Yeah, there was a
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  file that said that someone named James met with Epstein
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  a few days before. Are you aware of this meeting
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  at all? Noel? No question. Okay, is there anyone named
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  James that you work with? Noel, not that I know.
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  Of question. Okay. And then there was also a report
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  that detailed an interview between the FBI and an un
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  named inmate at the jail. In the report, the inmate
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  shares that he overheard you after Epstein was found dead,
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  saying that, I quote, if Epstein's dead, we're gonna cover
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  it up and he's going to have an alibi. My officers,
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  do you know anything about this? And what was the
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  officer you? Noel, no question? And did you say that
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  at any point? Okay, thank you. And then so inmates
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  at the Metropolitan Correctional Center evidence found to have reportedly
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  said quote miss Noel killed Jeffrey Epstein unquote after they
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  found out about Epstein died. Do you know of any
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  inmates saying that Noel, no question? And do you know
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  why they would say that, Noel, no question? And then
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  I guess I would just also ask generally, if in hindsight,
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  looking back at everything that happened, do you have any
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  regrets about anything that happened, as far as not checking
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  on him, knowing who he was now and the damage
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  he caused and the damage his death caused. Foy hold
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  on one second, they go off the record, then they
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  come back some rannium. Would you like me to repeat
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  the question? Noel, no question. Yeah, looking back at everything
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  that's happened, do you have any regrets or maybe even
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  remorse about what transpired as far as your actions or
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  the actions of the mcc Noel, So, I would have
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  liked to have conducted the counts and rounds, understanding that
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  if they were done, that suicide could still have taken place.
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  My only regret is that I worked for MCC, a
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  poorly ran institution. Question follow up, one thing here? You
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  said that even if you had done the counts and rounds,
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  the suicide could have still occurred. Noel, correct question. Okay,
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  that's all my questions redacted. All right, I have a
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  few more questions. We're going to try to walk through
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  the timeline of August ninth and tenth, just kind of
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  one step at a time. Answer, okay. Question. One thing
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  I think we wanted to try to clarify before we
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  even kick that off is inmate movements in and out
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  of the shoe. I think that's caused some confusion in
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  terms of what exact numbers on which exact count slip,
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  and what was the right number. So I'm going to
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  introduce an exhibit, which I'll mark as minority Exhibit A redacted.
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  I'll give you a moment to look it over. Question.
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  I know I gave you the longest one page document
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  in the history of documents. I appreciate you looking it over.
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  I know there's a lot there. The documents called Count
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  Discrepancies on August ninth, twenty nineteen. It was part of
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  the DJ release. We don't know exactly what it is.
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  We think probably it's written by the OIG when they
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  were first trying to figure things out, but we don't
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  know that for a fact. But it does says at
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  the top that it's based on the Daily Activity Report
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  and Lieutenant log from August ninth and tenth. First, do
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  you have any understanding of what a daily Activity report is? Answer?
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  No question. Okay, how about a lieutenant's log? Answer no question. Okay.
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  This document has inmate movements for the shoe on the
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  ninth and tenth, and it's got specific times on it.
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  We think that those times are probably linked to the
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  Century system. Are you familiar with that Century system? Answer yes?
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  Question what is that? Answer? The Century system is the
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  system that has the accurate number of inmates in the institution.
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  That's all I know. Question did you ever know or
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  do you remember whether the century system would be used
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  to log inmate movements? Answer? I don't know what they
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  used to log it? Question okay. Would you have had
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  any knowledge of whether inmate movements are logged at the
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  exact time of movement happens or maybe a few moments
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  after something happens. Answer yeah, I don't know when they
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  log it. Question okay. So I'm going to walk through
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  a few of these individual inmates. I know it was
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  a long time ago. I'll just ask the best of
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  your recollection. It looks as if the day started with
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  seventy seven inmates in the shoe. I guess it's also
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  called ZA. Are you familiar with that? Answer? Yeah? Question okay?
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  So ZA also means the shoe. Is that correct? Answer? Correct? Question? Great?
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  And that eight in the morning inmate reys was pre
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  removed out of the shoe and did not come back.
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  And our understanding is that mister Epstein cellmate. Is that
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  also your understanding? Answer? Correct question okay? And that would
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  take the shoe number down to seventy six. This happened
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  at eight thirty in the morning or eight thirty eight?
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  You did not start work until four pm. I know that.
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  But do you recall whether anybody mentioned to you that
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  rays had been removed from the shoe? Answer? No, no one. Question,
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  no one mentioned it to you? Answer? No question. And
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  so did that leave you with the impression that mister
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  Epstein still had a cell mate when you arrived? Answer
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  when I first got there? Yeah. Question was there at
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  some point in the day when you noticed that it
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  did not look like he actually had a cell mate? Answer?
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  After lock in? Question got it? And do you recall
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  specifically one or how you would have noticed that? Answer?
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  Even if an inmate is moved to somewhere, usually everybody
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  will be back by the time of lock in, and
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  at the time of lock in, there was not an
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  inmate back other than Epstein. Question what time is lock in? Answer?
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  I don't remember the exact time, to be honest. Question Ballpark,
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  I won't hold you to it. It doesn't have to
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  be exact. Answer. Well, in the shoe, they're always locked in.
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  In the shoe, it's different. But I think in regular
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  genual population nine pm maybe, But remember in the shoe
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  they're not out unless you're orderlies. But by the time
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  the count time if you're somewhere you would be back.
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  So that's why Epstein has to come up before nine,
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  because it's an institutional count. If that makes sense. Question
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  it does? Would that be the ten pm count? Answer
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  correct question? Okay, so sometime around ten pm, marker you
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  recall noticing, Hey, everybody's locked in at this point, but
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  there's nobody actually in mister Epstein's cell other than Epstein.
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  Answer correct question. Okay. Do you recall whether you discuss
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  the fact any other guards at the time. Answer no,
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  I didn't. Question did you have any understanding at the
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  time of whether mister Abstein was supposed to have a
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  cell I understand you knew that Reyes was assigned to
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  the cell, but whether there was some kind of policy
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  that mister Abstein needed to always have a cell mate?
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  Answer I was not aware. Question anybody ever mentioned that
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  that you can recall? Answer no. All right, folks, we're
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  gonna wrap up right here, and in the next episode
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  dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up where we
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