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Nature, Intuition & the Medicine of Connection - A Conversation with Tania Ho · Mediumship Sparks-The Next Chapter

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  Speaker 1: I didn't know Tanya before this conversation. Someone reached out
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  Speaker 1: to me and asked if I'd consider having her on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, and after spending time on her website, I
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  Speaker 1: was intrigued. What I found during our conversation was someone
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  Speaker 1: who cares very deeply about helping people trust themselves and
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  Speaker 1: integrate spirituality into their everyday life. I really enjoyed getting
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  Speaker 1: to know her, and I thought you might enjoy meeting
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  Speaker 1: her as well. So here's my conversation with Tanya Hoe.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Mediumship Sparks, where we connect more deeply with
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  Speaker 1: spirit and source and follow the sparks of insight and
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  Speaker 1: inspiration that bring us greater awareness, healing, and just more
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  Speaker 1: flow into our lives. I'm Noel dean intuitive medium, licensed therapist.
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  Speaker 2: And your host.
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  Speaker 1: A quick note before we begin. This podcast is for
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  Speaker 1: educational purposes only and provides general information in It is
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  Speaker 1: not medical or psychological advice, and is not a substitute
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  Speaker 1: for care from a licensed health professional. I'm so grateful
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  Speaker 1: we get to step into this together. Let's dig in.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Mediumship Sparks.
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  Speaker 3: We have a special guest today.
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  Speaker 1: Her name is Tanya Ho and she is with us
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  Speaker 1: from Thailand. Tanya, it would be an honor to hear
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  Speaker 1: you explain some of your background in some of the
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  Speaker 1: work that you do.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Noel for having me today. My
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  Speaker 2: name is Tanya Ho.
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  Speaker 4: I'm urgently from Hong Kong, but now I've been living
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  Speaker 4: here in Thailand for the last thirteen years. I am
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  Speaker 4: an intuitive soul guide, meaning I help people to reconnect.
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  Speaker 2: With their heart and soul.
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  Speaker 4: And another role that I do is I run the
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  Speaker 4: retreat center here. I run the retreat center called Museplower
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  Speaker 4: Retreat and SPA. We are based in the north end
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  Speaker 4: of Thailand called ching rab And. Our retreat offers yoga retreat, meditation, SPA,
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  Speaker 4: holidays and soulful retreats, allowing people to come mere, to recharge,
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  Speaker 4: to reconnect with nature and through that to reconnect with themselves.
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  Speaker 1: I noticed on your website there are some services that
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  Speaker 1: you offer online that sound like something people would do
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  Speaker 1: in person.
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  Speaker 4: We do so for the fire really ceremony. We do
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  Speaker 4: that here in person every full moon because expullment's a
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  Speaker 4: really good time to do any release work.
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  Speaker 2: And so what we normally.
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  Speaker 4: Do is we write down the things we want to release,
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  Speaker 4: so it could be any old stories, limiting beliefs, any
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  Speaker 4: heavy emotions, and.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes it could be memories.
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  Speaker 4: People don't know why, but it just is a memory.
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  Speaker 4: It's something that happened, and it can write it down
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  Speaker 4: and then we're going to release and burn it to
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  Speaker 4: the fire.
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  Speaker 2: I have also done that online.
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  Speaker 4: So it is easy to be able to do that
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  Speaker 4: at home as well. What I love to do is
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  Speaker 4: all the tools we offer and teach at the retreat center,
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  Speaker 4: we're able to bring it back home to use it
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  Speaker 4: in our daily life. So it's not like a one
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  Speaker 4: time thing you do there, but you have to learn
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  Speaker 4: all these tools, adding to your own toolblox, and then
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  Speaker 4: you bring it back home and you're like, okay, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I remember I've done this, and so I can redo
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  Speaker 4: this at a smaller scale or at home.
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  Speaker 2: And so the online fire really sermone is.
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  Speaker 4: That bringing that we don't have the big fire, but
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  Speaker 4: you can small fire with a candle, and you can
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  Speaker 4: do that at home.
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  Speaker 3: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: It's one thing to go somewhere and have a special treatment,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not sustainable if you don't learn how to
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  Speaker 1: do it or feel empowered to do it for yourself
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  Speaker 1: and with all of these kinds of tools. We really
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  Speaker 1: want people to have that sense of autonomy to support
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  Speaker 1: themselves in that way, to reach out and to learn things,
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  Speaker 1: but to really be able to comb through some of
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  Speaker 1: the stuff that we end up coping with and empowering
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  Speaker 1: and really unique ways to improve our environment.
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  Speaker 3: So I love that you have quite a lot of services.
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  Speaker 3: You have a podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I was listening to the episode about the best protection
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  Speaker 1: to protect your vibration. You're so thorough in how you
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  Speaker 1: explain things. I talk about that type of thing at
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  Speaker 1: times on my podcast, but I'm not nearly as organized
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  Speaker 1: as you were and thoughtful.
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  Speaker 3: About your list. One of the cool things.
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  Speaker 1: I think you talked about was about raising your own
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  Speaker 1: vibration and coming from a place of love even with
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  Speaker 1: the concept of protection, because if you from fear, that's
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  Speaker 1: already a lower vibration.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, Yes, that's right. Because it's very hard for
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  Speaker 4: me to think at a spot. So I have the
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  Speaker 4: whole script that I read it out from, but I
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  Speaker 4: do want to share exactly what you said. I think
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  Speaker 4: sometimes when we think about protecting energy, we're thinking, oh,
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  Speaker 4: because the outside world is very dangerous, and I need
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  Speaker 4: to protect myself and it's.
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  Speaker 2: Not what that is about.
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  Speaker 4: It's stressing the point that when we're protecting energy, so
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  Speaker 4: we're not ticking on other people's things, so we can
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  Speaker 4: really focus on ourselves, we're really focusing on being a
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  Speaker 4: true self and not being affected by people around us
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  Speaker 4: or what's happening in our world.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it even brings up the idea of guarding our
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  Speaker 1: mental health or our mental state. It's the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: You touch on a lot of things in those episodes.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say, it doesn't sound like you're
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  Speaker 1: reading it.
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  Speaker 3: I admire that is important because you use a lot
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  Speaker 3: of great.
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  Speaker 1: Analogies about using lotion on your skin and protecting your skin,
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  Speaker 1: and even washing your hands and food prep about the
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  Speaker 1: idea of delving into different energies and then releasing that
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  Speaker 1: being thoughtful ahead of time, and even wearing black clothing.
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  Speaker 1: I know about black rocks and black stones, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that I thought about black clothing.
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  Speaker 3: That was a very practical tip.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes, I learned that in a shamanic practice course.
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  Speaker 4: In certain shamanic ceremonies, they would wear black clothes as
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  Speaker 4: a form of protection the protective practitioner. There are other
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  Speaker 4: practices that you've seen people will wear white clothes more
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  Speaker 4: and more, but they're receiving the light.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's interesting to have both.
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  Speaker 4: And I think the culture like you go to funeral also,
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  Speaker 4: for example, I think in the Western culture it's very
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  Speaker 4: similar to Asian Chinese cultures wearing black clothes or in
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  Speaker 4: Asia as you can also wear white.
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  Speaker 2: So it's white or black actually to attend the funeral.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, people wud probably look at you funny if you
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  Speaker 1: wore white here, although there are times when we have
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  Speaker 1: more celebrations of life than additional funerals, and sometimes people
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  Speaker 1: are encouraged to wear color as a reflection of the
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  Speaker 1: person's personality who recently departed. Yeah, but you.
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  Speaker 3: Have a lot of different trainings. Maybe you could talk a.
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  Speaker 1: Little bit more about some of the cool stuff that
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  Speaker 1: you've done, because it's such a personal choice to find
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  Speaker 1: practitioner or a teacher that we want to work with,
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  Speaker 1: and having somebody knowing somebody's background about what interests them
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  Speaker 1: can actually help us really make that choice.
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  Speaker 3: Because we resonate with this part.
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  Speaker 1: In this part, so you are trained in shamanic practices,
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  Speaker 1: give us a little bit about.
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  Speaker 3: What that means.
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  Speaker 4: I'll come back to the first part of the question.
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  Speaker 4: When you set first, I think when I set up
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  Speaker 4: an into soul guide, guiding people back through their heart
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  Speaker 4: and to their soul. And the big theme.
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  Speaker 2: Topic that I do it through, it's through intuition.
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  Speaker 4: It was learning how to trust your intuition. Is this
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  Speaker 4: my intuition or just my mind trusting intuition?
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  Speaker 2: There's different layers.
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  Speaker 4: I know this my intuition, but do I act on it?
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  Speaker 4: Do I take that leave of faith? Do I act
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  Speaker 4: on it? And it's also this constant journey because sometimes
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  Speaker 4: when we did act on the intuition, the outcome was
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  Speaker 4: not as we expect it, and then we lose a
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  Speaker 4: little faith in ourselves. Well lease some confidence. But sharing
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  Speaker 4: my own experience on teaching people how we can live
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  Speaker 4: with clarity, we have more clarity with learning to trust
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  Speaker 4: our intuition, but also building confidence encourage to act on
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  Speaker 4: the intuition because that was my own journey as well.
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  Speaker 4: And another part of my work is helping more sensitive people.
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  Speaker 2: I do believe everyone.
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  Speaker 4: Of course they're all sensitive, but some people are more sensitive.
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  Speaker 4: The highly sensitive people are the mpath and only a
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  Speaker 4: few years ago I embraced myself to see as an EmPATH.
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  Speaker 4: Even within an EmPATH, there's a whole spectrum. And I
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  Speaker 4: read that from Anita with Johnny's book called Sensitive is
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  Speaker 4: New Strong. This is a really good book. She has
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  Speaker 4: this quizzle, so you can find out what type of
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  Speaker 4: EmPATH you are. When I embrace that from myself, that's
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  Speaker 4: why it inspired my podcast Embracing our sacred nature, then
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  Speaker 4: a lot of things fall into places.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that is actually how I am built energetically.
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  Speaker 4: That's just same as our hair color, same as our
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  Speaker 4: bone structure. There's nothing wrong with me. It's just this
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  Speaker 4: is how I'm built. So once I embrace that and
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  Speaker 4: learned that, okay, how I can work with it now,
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  Speaker 4: not work against it. So learning how to masterize sensitivities
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  Speaker 4: because they can be double edged swords. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes when we're so sensitive energy, and when we don't.
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  Speaker 4: Learn how to protect energy, then we pick up a
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  Speaker 4: lot of other people's energies and we get burdened by that.
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  Speaker 4: It is a gift, but we also have to learn
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  Speaker 4: how to master and protect our energy so we are
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  Speaker 4: not constantly influenced and affected by other people, especially for
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  Speaker 4: the more sensitive souls. Another big part is linked together
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  Speaker 4: of course, that I like to help sensitive soul to
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  Speaker 4: really waken to their true powers, the true power recognize
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  Speaker 4: sensitivity is their gift, your superpower, trusting themselves, trusting the intuition.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to act on the intuition now. See, this
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  Speaker 4: is my gift, and how I can use this gift
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  Speaker 4: to carry out my sole purpose or sole mission here on.
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  Speaker 4: These gifts are here to help you learn and grow
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  Speaker 4: as a soul, but also to help other people. Usually
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  Speaker 4: I find for a lot of sensitive people they want
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  Speaker 4: to help. They want to help the people around them,
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  Speaker 4: especially am paths. Right, they feel good when people around
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  Speaker 4: them feel good, so they want to help people around them.
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  Speaker 4: So these are the things that I'm really passionate about,
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  Speaker 4: and if theial amount of practice come into it. What
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  Speaker 4: I love about it is because it is a path
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  Speaker 4: of direct revelation, the same as the other things we
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  Speaker 4: talk about, meaning there's no person in between to.
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  Speaker 2: Tell you what to do.
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  Speaker 4: Right, to have a direct revelation means you go direct
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  Speaker 4: to the source, to your spirit animal, to your spirit guide.
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  Speaker 4: They're your spiritual support team and you get your guidance
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  Speaker 4: from them directly, and so you're not depending on somebody
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  Speaker 4: in the middle. Of course, sometimes it's helpful to have
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  Speaker 4: someone a practitioner, teacher to help because there's so many
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  Speaker 4: blind spots sometime we don't see. So of course sometimes
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  Speaker 4: we know you need somebody, but it's really going directly
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  Speaker 4: to the divine wisdom, divine power, divine love that's within you,
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  Speaker 4: that it's all around you that's helping you. So the
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  Speaker 4: shamanic practices go into there, and so Samia practice. It's
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  Speaker 4: really a way of life to see that everything in
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  Speaker 4: the planet has a consciousness, like plant stones, they all
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  Speaker 4: have a consciousness and working with them, animals, and there's
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  Speaker 4: this whole realms of beings that we can't see with
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  Speaker 4: our physical eyes that they're here to support us. They're
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  Speaker 4: here to help us. We can connect with these beings
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  Speaker 4: from different realms to help them support us our journey
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  Speaker 4: here on Earth. And also everything is conscious, so the
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  Speaker 4: land also has consciousness.
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  Speaker 2: And I believe that.
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  Speaker 4: There are helping spirits everywhere, So helping spirits on the land,
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  Speaker 4: for example, our ancestors also are hero always cheering at
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  Speaker 4: us on even though there's it's just a trauma, but
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  Speaker 4: also there's gifts and wisdom and blessing from ancestors. We
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  Speaker 4: can connect to different dimensions being to help them support us.
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  Speaker 4: That is one way that a mind of persons help
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  Speaker 4: us to connect with our expired guise and our spirit animals.
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  Speaker 3: Love that.
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  Speaker 1: I've never heard the term path of direct revelation, and
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  Speaker 1: I am in love with it now because that's such
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  Speaker 1: a cool way to talk about an intuitive soul guide
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  Speaker 1: bringing people back to themselves, teaching them how to listen,
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  Speaker 1: because we're goot really not to listen or not listen
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  Speaker 1: very deeply, especially if it seems like an unpopular path
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  Speaker 1: that we're feeling led to go towards. Giving people that
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  Speaker 1: sense of agency over themselves something that's sustainable. I'm also
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  Speaker 1: a believer to help somebody be more connected to themselves.
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  Speaker 1: I rather devote my life to supporting people to feel
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  Speaker 1: empowered with their own abilities and to see everybody as
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  Speaker 1: capable of doing that to whatever degree they're actually interested
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  Speaker 1: in pursuing it.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, but the term is actually not from me. The
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  Speaker 4: Path of direct revelation is from Sandra Ingerman. She's a
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  Speaker 4: very famous stamonic practice teacher here in the States. I've
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  Speaker 4: attended a few of her online courses and I have
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  Speaker 4: read her books. She always emphasized the path of direct revelation.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you for bringing her up, because I haven't
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  Speaker 1: taken any of her courses or read her books yet.
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  Speaker 1: You're the only person that I've ever seen that on
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  Speaker 1: your website.
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  Speaker 3: You have a page of people who inspire me.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought you might have a couple of mentors
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  Speaker 1: or maybe a few books, and the list kept going,
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  Speaker 1: and I was just so impressed. That felt like such
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  Speaker 1: an act of generosity for you to acknowledge these other
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  Speaker 1: people that have impacted you. I've just never seen that before.
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  Speaker 3: It was very touching to.
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  Speaker 1: Credit people and also share about them with others.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. Do have to update that page, but yes,
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  Speaker 4: she's still going to be on there. There are so
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  Speaker 4: many great teachers out there doing great work and inspiring people,
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  Speaker 4: and so there have been a lot of people on
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  Speaker 4: my journey and even same as like the retreats that
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  Speaker 4: and when people are like, yeah, you open the retreats, Yes,
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  Speaker 4: that's not myself.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't build it myself.
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  Speaker 4: I have all these people helping me, and the same
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  Speaker 4: as in my own healing journey, I have all these
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  Speaker 4: people inspiring in different stages.
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  Speaker 2: Of my life. Thank you so much for menstaring that.
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  Speaker 4: I think you're the first person I heard because gave
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  Speaker 4: feedback on oh yeah, I saw this on your website
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  Speaker 4: and it's very inspiring, So thank you. I thank you
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  Speaker 4: for Oh.
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  Speaker 3: It's so cool. I might have to copy that.
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  Speaker 1: If you're okay, then bad, just because it is nice
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  Speaker 1: to give people credit for how they impact us. That
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  Speaker 1: also teaches people about you and the books you've read,
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  Speaker 1: the kind of classes that you've taken, and who has
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  Speaker 1: influenced you, because they may resonate with the same person
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  Speaker 1: like Sandra Ingerman.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, Thank you so much to your retreat center.
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  Speaker 1: Are you the sole practitioner or do you have others
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  Speaker 1: that work with you?
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  Speaker 4: I do have another teacher, so we have two of us,
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  Speaker 4: and occasionally I have a visiting as mainly me and
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  Speaker 4: another person that because we have a yoga meditation. I
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  Speaker 4: don't teach yo, so she's the one who teaches the yoga,
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  Speaker 4: the physical exercise she going. She's the reiki master, so
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  Speaker 4: she also teaches reiki. She does sounding like I've have
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  Speaker 4: about twenty staff. Everybody can multi task a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: wear kind of different hands, and do more things, so
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  Speaker 4: she does that. They teach you talk about different kind
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  Speaker 4: of meditations, the fire, really ceremony, the shamanic practices. Another
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  Speaker 4: thing that I work with is cacaal medicine that I
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  Speaker 4: really love and love sharing that to the guest intuition development,
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  Speaker 4: the protection energy protection tools. So have a workshop all
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  Speaker 4: about that, and then we do also sometimes have specific
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  Speaker 4: theme retreats. In a few days we are doing a
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  Speaker 4: family Wellness retreat. It's the very first one for families
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  Speaker 4: with their children. There's sessions for adults, sessions for kids only.
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  Speaker 4: In December, we're going to do another one called Sacred
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  Speaker 4: Rest with nature with my friend from Singapore and Cold
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  Speaker 4: fagilitating this retreat for people to experience the seven types
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  Speaker 4: of rest.
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  Speaker 2: Have you heard about the seven types of rest?
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  Speaker 4: It's inspired by a book called Sacred Rest by Sandra
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  Speaker 4: Dalton Smith. She explains there are seven types of rest,
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  Speaker 4: so besides physical rest, because usually we think of rest
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  Speaker 4: as just sleeping lying down, and in fact, when she
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  Speaker 4: explains physical rest, it is not just sleeping, it is
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  Speaker 4: actually your body needs some kind of movement to relieve tension.
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  Speaker 4: So physical rest can look at actually stretching like massage,
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  Speaker 4: not only just sleeping, and then there's emotional rest, mental rest,
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  Speaker 4: spiritual rest, creative rest, sensory rest, and social rest.
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  Speaker 2: And so she talk about all.
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  Speaker 4: These different rest in different areas because sometimes you feel like,
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  Speaker 4: oh I just sleep, I have my eight hours, but
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  Speaker 4: why I still feel so tired. We want to wake
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  Speaker 4: up so drained because it could be emotional rest, mental rest,
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  Speaker 4: social rest. So there's different areas. So we were inspired
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  Speaker 4: by the concept of her book and we create this
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  Speaker 4: retreat where people can come and rest in these seven
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  Speaker 4: different type of rest. There's different invitations to rest on
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  Speaker 4: my friend she vicitates for spathing and yoga nida and
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  Speaker 4: we do also the shamanic journey for example, to connect
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  Speaker 4: with their spirit animal spirad guide. That's part of a
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  Speaker 4: spiritual rest that we do Cakau for example, It's part
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  Speaker 4: of the emotional resk because we'll drink accow medicine what
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  Speaker 4: helps to us to bring back into our heart, bring
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  Speaker 4: back to the present moment, and will practice forgiveness if
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  Speaker 4: do we do a forgiveness practice that's linked to emotional rest.
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  Speaker 4: The rest invitations linked throughout the retreat that's going to
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: be in December, end of the year before Christmas hits
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: after this whole year is good to have this time
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: to wrap up the past year and then to rest
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: and they have this renewed sense of energy.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Before you enter the new year.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: That's another thing that retreats that we do here a
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: muse Flower. Besides the in person sessions when people come here,
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: besides the classes I teach, I do a private session
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: with oracle card reading. It's for helping people to find
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: clarity in their next step. Maybe they are going through
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: some kind of transition, they're going through some challenges and
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: so then can have a little bit more clarity. But
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: what I do reading is always a two way conversation.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: So I will ask them to actually look at the cards,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: so it's for them to tap into their intuition, right,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: what do you see in the car?
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: How do you feel?
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: And for them to tell me, And then I would
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: tell them this is actually what's happening inside you, that's
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: what's happening in your inner world. When then the conversation
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: goes and we'll always let them finish a session with
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: some kind of key takeaway, some kind of take away
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: action that they can actually use and do when they
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: go back home. Just one thing just one thing that
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: you can do when you go back, and then I
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: will follow up with them a week later and I'm like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: how are you optional? You don't have to do it,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: there's no pressure, but just how are you? Did you
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: get to do what we talk about.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: That's great because it gives a real flavor for what
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: you do.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: And it sounds like this.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I'd never heard of the seven types of rest, and
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I love that because I'm sure everybody listening can relate
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: to that.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: But you can get.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Physical rest, but if socially you're exhausted or energetically you're exhausted,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how much sleep you get, you still
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: feel pretty crappy. The workshop that you described, it just
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: sounds so thoughtful in all these different layers of how
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: you're intertwining these different types of rest to help people learn.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I'm hearing from everything you're describing this practicality of teaching
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: things that they can take home with them, even following up.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I can be super lazy about that unless somebody had
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: a really tough session, but it is nice to support
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: people when something big has moved or they're going to
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: move it soon. Even just hearing your voice, I'm sure
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: seeing your face. If you do it over zoom is
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: going to bring them right back to that session where
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: they felt empowered and seen and given support and suggestions
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: from spirit through you.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: And that you involve them is even cooler.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: But it's easy to just show up to receive a
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: reading and to be pretty passive about that. I have
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: people that we practice together, and that's been a part
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: of my life for years now, and I love that.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I love the objectivity. Somebody can bring up their whole
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: perspective of how they pick up information on mine, and
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: then I get to be educated in all these ways.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: It's just so nice to participate that you invite people
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: to do that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, I also learned it from my friend, one of
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: the people I put on the Inspired list in the
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: early stages when I started. She also does terror Cart reading.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: She taught me people honestly only believe in what they say,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: so you can tell them anything you want and on
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: their receiving, of course, they will pick up key things
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: because in the podcast they listen to this podcast, they
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: will pick up the key things. But then when they
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: say it themselves, it's much more powerful because they believe
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: in themselves. It's much more powerful. When it's coming out
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: from their own mouth. When they actually say it and
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: they knowledge it, it.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Just goes the layer deeper.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: It inspires them more to take action. Psychologically, we know
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: we have to exercise more, or logically we know we
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: have to do these things, but sometimes we're like, ah,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: we don't feel so motivated, we don't get to do it.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: But when we say it ourselves, it changesself.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and it also shows you've taken in the information
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: incorporated it within yourself. Yes, Sometimes in readings people get
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of information, so hearing them feedback to you
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: they're one big takeaway or something like that, you can
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: see that they were able to grasp the information. Sometimes
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the information that comes through in readings can be metaphorical
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: or symbolic. It might make sense to us because it's
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: not our life. But once people have a hard time
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: taking information in, if they're a bit more of a
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: concrete thinker, they may have a different process and there's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of things that could get lost in translation.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: What do you love most about being an intuitive soul guide?
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you for that.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: I so a part of me is like that with
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: the EmPATH I think there's this I feel good when
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: people feel good around me, and so it's really I
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: wanted to help people to feel good.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: And I think it's just in my own journey.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: And I think often when we teach things that have
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: inspired and healed us.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: And so in my case is.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: I've always put like trust outside of me. Oh I
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: see this teacher and I've used to put them on
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: a pedestal and oh my god, they know everything and
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna blindly follow this person. I learned my
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: lesson even in the last ten years during this work
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: teaching and sharing. It's always coming back to intuition when
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: they feel stuck. A lot of times feel step is
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: because the heart says one thing, the intuition says one thing,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: but the mind kicks in, we can't do that to
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: keep us safe right the fear and help the overthinking,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: and then we don't get to do what our heart
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: calls us to do, our soul causes to do. And
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: then that it feels stuck and then they're like, why
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: I'm I feel so stuck. I can't I want to
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: do this, but I can't. Oftentimes the mind only sees
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: is this or that option AARB and there's always a
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: reminder like there's an option C and a D. There's
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: infinite possibilities for the universe. And then they're like, oh, yes,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: I see that a lot in people that when they
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: feel stuck on an emotional level, mental level, or on
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: an energetic level as well. I feel like it's really
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: always going.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Back to learning to trust your intuition.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Like having this this deeper trust to me, it's the
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: reflection when you trust your intuition, you're trusting the universe
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: or you're trusting this bigger presence around you to support you,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: so you're not just relying on yourself. One more reason
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: was that my dad passed away when I was twenty five.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: My dad had depression. That was also what inspired.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Me when I come into the retreat center and when
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: I explain I want a displace for people to reconnect.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Themselves, it was that I've seen have suffered a lot.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: It's all this emotional and mental thing that he suffered
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: a lot.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: He couldn't do this like you used to.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: It was almost twenty years ago, and there's a big
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: stigma and mental health. He had a lot of resistance
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: in taking the antidepressant because it would mean something he
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: was not proud of. There was all these things that
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: I feel like, oh when we travel somewhere, and I
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: love spas and that's my background. Also to go for
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: a massage, yes, to feel great, but where's the deeper
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: work that can help.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: With the emotional part or the mental part. When I
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: learned reiki twenty one really changed my world.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, why didn't we actually learn because we
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: never learned that at school? Everything is just frequency right,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: we could see that. I think that would help a
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: lot of people feeling stuffed, feeling depressed, just to be
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: able to see and to learn that all these things
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: and unseen world right, like the things that we cannot
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: see with physical eyes, that they're there.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: And to dig deeper, to go into intuition. There's so many.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Layers and what you just said, there's a lot of
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: layers of what you shared, And thank you for sharing
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: those things. When you said about following teachers blindly, I
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: had that experience myself with a psychic and who had
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: bad intentions. So I learned in the hard way and
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure out how to feel about
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: myself as a facilitator to never put people in a
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: position to follow me blindly or anything that I say,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: or to put myself as some kind of authority, I
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: mean doing a podcast, teaching a class, talking to people.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: We don't really know how they're going to think of us,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: so really being mindful of managing that so carefully and
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: not letting ego get involved with it could create some
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: weirdness for people, and teaching people to use their own discernment.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: You're right if you feel like you're unsafe in an
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: unsafe world, it's hard to listen to your intuition. If
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: you can help people feel safe enough within themselves to
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: start listening and then test it, even if you do
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: get the results you weren't expecting, but the bigger picture
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: of it, and then you learn to trust even more,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and then it's trusting yourself than trusting the universe, and
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: bring back and forth until you start to feel safer.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: And that's similar to my journey, also really wanting to
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: help people. It does feel good to be around people
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: who feel good, but it is also really nice to
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: feel like legacy that we leave is the trail of
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I was this way and then I moved myself and
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I learned these things, and I dropped these little tools
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and hints and pieces of information for other people to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: find also, just like I did, so that we can
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: all pick ourselves up a bit more feel a sense
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: of community, certainly a sense of community with our spirit team.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know much about shamanic practices, but I feel
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: like I have a very shamanic mindset of the meanings
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: to everything. Pretty much everything has consciousness. I do talk
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to my crystals.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: We have a fish tank. I check in with the
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: fish if they need more food.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I was recently thinking about connecting with tree energy when
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I was feeling desperate to fall asleep. That just seemed
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: like the right thing to do, so I did that.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: It's so cool to feel a part of this active,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: dynamic world and you start really tuning in.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm really sorry to hear about.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Your dad and depression. That would have been a very
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: hard thing to witness. His daughter helping people feel more
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: empowered and connected and have more compassion for themselves, I'm
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: sure is something that would get you out of.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Bed every day.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you for saying that.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: With the question when you're starting like why you wanted
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: to do that, it's like, yeah, it started with someone
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: feels good want to help people. But it's really Yes,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: the part of seeing how difficult it was for him,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: and that was more than fifteen years ago, but I
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: still see depression or mental health issues is still. It's
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: more there's more awareness now, which it's great, and more
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: people acknowledging that they have it and not to say lightly,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: oh you should just do this and then it's going
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: to go away. There's so many layers to it, but
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: definitely having more practices and tools to help with the
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: emotional health and mental health. And to me, it's always
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: going back also that spiritual connection. To me, that's like
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: the biggest support we can rely on in life is
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: and the biggest love that we can receive, that's from
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: that spiritual connection. However, you're connected just to this bigger presence.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: But I know that when people.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Especially when you're working you're in a city, we're just
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: so used to like, oh, yeah, we're working constantly, we're
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: building our own personal brand, my business where I don't
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: bring people.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: In and stuff.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Sometimes we can forget about that spiritual connection. We can
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: forget that there's still actually a lot of that unseen
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: world that to forget to tap into that interwovenness that
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: we actually have with nature with everything, and to be
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: able also to receive answers, clarity, and guidance from nature.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: I love nature as we live in nature, our retreats,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: that is in the forest, lots of trees and flowers
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: and birds around. Even just being by nature we don't
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: do anything. It can be also very healing too.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I was wondering if this was going to feel right
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: to come up. So I was driving today and I
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: had the windows down my car, and this hasn't happened
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: to me before, but a dragonfly came into my car.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: It was kind of small, and I had this moment
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: of oh, crap, did they sting. I got a little
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: worried at first because I didn't know and I didn't
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: do anything. It just came over near the steering wheel
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and sat there for a moment and then went about
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: his business. I live in a small, somewhat suburban area
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of San Diego County in California. There is nature around,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: but I'm not in it as much as I would
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: like to be. I feel a connection to birds or
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: we have squirrels. I looked up the spiritual meaning of dragonfly,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: which was very validating, and I'm so glad. But it
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: was just so nice to have this unique run in
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: with nature in this way. I didn't expect and get
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a little message, but that was really cool to be
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: so close to this beautiful and delicate looking creature.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I love dragonflies.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: We have a lot here, especially when it rains. Sometimes
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: not very anaale encounter would be a fine but sometimes
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: you can feel it and there's the sense of knowing
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: the You could feel that it is something.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: More special, right.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: And I also had a dragonfly encounter last year. I
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: was thinking if I should go to this event in
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Bangkok and Thailand, and it's called Dragonfly, so the event
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: was called Dragonfly. I was thinking I should go, and
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: in the morning when I woke up and it came
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: to my meditation altar, that was a dead one but
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: it was a dragonfly on the altar, and I was like, okay,
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: I take that as a sign that I should totally
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: go to this event called Dragonfly. Because there was a
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: dead dragonfly showing up for me and my altar.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: That's communication nature. Nature itself has this big consciousness. One
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: of the practices we do here is called the Medicine Walk.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: It's just you going in nature, but you carry this
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: question in your mind, and you're paying attention with your
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: intuition to see how nature is answering your question with
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: the things that you get to notice. What's drawing your eyes,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: what's drawing your attention. It could be a sound if
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: you saw something, and what kind of metaph it might
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: mean to you or what kind of insight might come
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: through as you walk through nature.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: But with the intention to have.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: This question, I'm looking for this answer. I'm open to
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: the answer for the guidance from nature.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: That feels like another practical example of giving somebody an
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: experience of something that they could do anywhere. They could
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: do that on the beach if they're not out where
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of trees. I did see on
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: your website the picture of the property where you have
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the retreat, and it looks gorgeous.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: It just looks lush and green and very rich.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: So this is like the northern part of Thailand, and
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: hopefully you'll have one day to come and visit Thailand.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: So northern Parching ride chang Mai is actually more like
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: the mountains and the lakes, the rivers, and then the
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: south of Thailand's usually with the beaches, the islands and
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: the ocean.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: So it's nice.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Actually in tailand to have both just the north and
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: the south.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: In California, we have a nice mixture of things.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: There's many hours of driving in between, but you can
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: end up in snow mountains or be down in Baja
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: California the beaches where it's warm. Not as much a mercy,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I think, is what you have, but it's really beautiful
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: here too. What else do you think would be something
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: you would want people to know about you as a practitioner,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: as someone who's worked on herself to empower yourself to
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: be more connected to.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Your own soul.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: What would you want people to.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: Know about you? To know about me, I'll just talk
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: of my style, and probably everybody has different style, and
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: there are so many practitioners out there, and everybody's doing
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: great work helping different people in different areas.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: My vision is to help.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: People, but to be able to.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: When we say awakening to me is being.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Able to trust themselves and trust the universe or the
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: divine all around.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I see myself as a guide.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: It's like I open the door and I show you, Okay,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: this is one way, but it's up to you.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: You have to take the step.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Right I can't do the work for you, but I
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: will show you. And the practices I've shared are practice
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: that have healed myself. First, I'm someone who need to
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: try it out with myself, even for reiki. When I
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: first went reiki, I just want to see if energies
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: was real. I want to see is this real? And
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: then it's real? And so all the things I share
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: with people are things that are basically trying to settle myself,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: because atis I wouldn't share it with other people. It's
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: things that I have integrated into my life that have
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: healed me, and then I would have the confidence to
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: share it because I lived it myself. But that's why
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: the practical part is important. To be able to integrate
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: spirituality in our daily life. It's not just something that
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: you do. You sit in medication an hour and what
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: happens in the next twenty three hours, right, So we
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: have to bring whatever in that practice you have to
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  Speaker 4: be able to bring in real life.
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  Speaker 2: Most people we still.
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  Speaker 4: Have to pay bills, right say, have to work, you
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  Speaker 4: have children to take care of, we have elderly parents
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  Speaker 4: to take care of. For me, spirituality is yes, it
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  Speaker 4: would be great to come to retreat and I love
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: and please yes, come for a retreat and because it
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: is life changing, because you're stepping away from the daily life.
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  Speaker 4: And the more important way is what you can bring
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  Speaker 4: back to your daily life as a change person now, right,
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  Speaker 4: to really help yourself and to be sustainable. That is
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: something very important always to be able to take whatever
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  Speaker 4: that is, to be integrated into your day life and
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  Speaker 4: to really to live the dream life that you desire,
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  Speaker 4: because that's what we're here for too. We didn't come
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  Speaker 4: here to suffer. We have here.
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  Speaker 2: I believe we all are soul.
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  Speaker 4: We come here to learn and evolve, but also at
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: the same time we have to carry out still mission, yes,
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  Speaker 4: and feel very fulfilling, but.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Also to have fun too.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: It's not like all sticks that don't care. So enjoying
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  Speaker 4: the pleasures in life. You are living as a divine being, right,
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  Speaker 4: having a human sperien. When you're shining your light, when
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  Speaker 4: you're living and joy, when you're living in purpose, you're
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  Speaker 4: rating your light and your life. It's going to inspire
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  Speaker 4: other people helping sense of soul to recognize their gifts
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  Speaker 4: because that is the light. You have a message. Everybody
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  Speaker 4: has a message that you can share. You never know
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  Speaker 4: how that message can help other people, the other people
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  Speaker 4: in your environment.
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  Speaker 2: There could be a stranger.
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  Speaker 4: Before I said, oh, thank you so much for sharing
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  Speaker 4: that about my website. It's just so that you put
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: things out, you don't know who was going to see it,
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  Speaker 4: I was going to receive it.
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  Speaker 2: We never know.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes I feel like we put things out then maybe
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  Speaker 4: nobody's respond but we never know where and how that's
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  Speaker 4: going to lead to and how that's going to help
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  Speaker 4: people in different ways.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's what I want to share.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: You're talking about the next step, digging down to get
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: more in touch with who we are, because we can
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: help other people better when we're being truer to ourselves.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: But there's also that part of uncovering ourselves to ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what you're describing your retreats do, your
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  Speaker 1: readings do, is helping people get in touch with.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: That true part of themselves.
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  Speaker 1: And that is a delicate trek to take, finding the
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: right timing, that sense of openness and somebody with integrity.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: And what you described is you wouldn't try something on
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: somebody that you didn't already do on yourself that you've
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: seen evidence of how effective it can actually be, and
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  Speaker 1: to have the integrity of knowing that and bringing all
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: of yourself and all of your skills and tools to
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  Speaker 1: the people that you help because they need all those things,
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  Speaker 1: and then that sparks all of those things in them
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  Speaker 1: and then they get to live that way. I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: have imagined even ten years ago living as connected as
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I feel now. I don't think it's predictable what we're
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: actually capable or how it will feel when we reach
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: that next level in our own evolution and development. There
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: are parts we do on our own, but when we
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: find somebody who's a bit of a sherpa or a
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: guide that says, okay, hold on, let me get the
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: door for you, but you have to choose the path,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and then you also get to relate to yourself as
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the person who chose the right path. And that just
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: feels so critical in a world where intuition, healing, reiki,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: all these things are not taught in school and we're
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: socialized to not go inward. That we tend to goward
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: for everything, which is what has us look for teachers
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and gurus at times which may not.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Always be healthy for us.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: So finding that path within and then finding how we
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  Speaker 1: can navigate as our own guide.
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  Speaker 3: Eventually, once we really.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Learn how to pair down all the extra stuff that
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: we really don't need.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Your retreats, everything.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: That you're talking about, all of your offerings just sound
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: really thoughtful and intentionally meant to support people to connect
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: to this deeper version of themselves. It we all benefit
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: from and we all need, even if we're not aware
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you so much you say it's such
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: an eloquent way and inspiring for me too, because when
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: you ask me the question was for me too, Yeah,
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: I like to dig deep for myself. And then when
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: you reflect back to me what I said, I was like, yeah,
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: thank you, Noel, thank you for saying that. It's just
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: like it's like I probably have to re listen to
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: this for myself. Like because of course we're human. We
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: still have doubts. Sometimes we still have this overthinking.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: So how to do it? Is people going to respond
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: to it?
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Does it really help people? There?
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Totally get that, And look, there's a humility in doing
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: this kind of work that is a double edged sort
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: because there's.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I feel that very much.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes there's always this little sheet of self doubt of
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: like I am really doing the thing I think I'm
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: doing right. I am really thinking about this program that's
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: going to help people, and working with my spirit team
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: to be in sync and in tune as I possibly
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: can be, because I don't have the faith in me
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: as just one person to really know what's going to
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: support other people.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I don't have all the answers, for sure.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I kind of love that about people who look at
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: themselves that way, because you're not the answer. You don't
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: know everything, and thank goodness you know that, because then
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: you get to keep learning and you keep growing. And
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: that's probably why you're a good teacher and a good
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: practitioner and you keep getting so excited about helping more
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: people is because you're.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Like, oh my gosh, look at me now. A year ago,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't even have thought that. We get to witness our.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Own revelations and progress, and it's so amazing to me
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: how it can just keep going.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Actually, I love to share. If there's an insight, I
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: share it in a newslutter and the surprise that people
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: right back and say, oh my god, that was what
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: I was going through. So we all have very similar journeys.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: When we share it, we can choose.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Not to share it because if we are doubting ourselves
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: and we're not sure, and then it takes away this
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: opportunity for connection.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: And then there's a quote I'm a magazine.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know who it's from, and I have it
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: because I cut it out and I put on a wall,
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: and it is Nature's medicine.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Food is medicine, and it is connection. It's medicine.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: And so to me being able to when you share
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: something of people too late and see it.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not alone.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: On this journey, both on the physical level or there
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: are other people the experience them of things, and on
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: the spiritual and the general level, we are not alone
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: this journey because we have all these spiritual helpers helping
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: us do and so it just makes this journey more
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: fun less challenging.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Because everything we have to do everything by ourselves.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: It's very hard that when we know we have our
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: friends and family supporting us. We have light minded people
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: that we resonate with what's going on our journeys. We
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: have friends that are reading to each other. Also have
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: friends and just support yourself. And then of course this
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: is Spratio support team. So yeah, and nature also there's
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: a lot of support from nature, but also just on
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: an agenter level as well. My son, who's four year old,
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: we're walking our dogs and then suddenly he said, nature
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: is so beautiful. I'm like, yeah, thank you. It's like, wow,
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: thank you. Nature is so beautiful. It's like yeah, and.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: He's probably feeling it as well as seeing it, so
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: it's even more pure and perfect to him.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Probably.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And the thing is, we walk our dogs for
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: a year. It's the same path. We just walk around
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: and send her like three times, and it was like
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: it was really just a few days ago he just
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: said that for the first time. So interesting.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: It's nice you're teaching him to pay attention to.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think he just did it by himself.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Really.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I didn't even prompt him for anything. He's just maybe
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: it did.
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  Speaker 4: I remember though, like things I said throughout sometimes but
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: it was not the moment, but it was really at
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: the moment. And sometimes when they say things like that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: That were a reminder from myself.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Children's are great teachers. Sometimes they remind us of the
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: beauty and alle things that we're so used to already.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Tania, it was the pleasure spending this time with you,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: hearing about the cool stuff that you're doing, or the
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: nice adventures that you've got lined up for people who
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: want to come to Thailand, and the things that you're
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: offering online. So can you share how people can reach you?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me on here.
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  Speaker 4: I have my website which is tanyoho dot me and
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: from musflow website Newsflower retreat dot com. There's only one
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: r to find out more about retreats like the retreats
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I talk about Nocetember. And then of course we are
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: on Instagram and.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: When you go a website you can find on Instagram.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: And my podcast will actually just do them in season,
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: so it's not like a regular weekly thing. So the
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: season that you're listening to was from last year.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: I did about.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Thirteen fourteen episodes and I'm planning for the season two
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  Speaker 4: will be coming in around August, so next month.
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  Speaker 1: Gotcha, Tanya, it can be spelled many ways. It's Tha
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  Speaker 1: n I A and ho isho dot that's right.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you sure, and we'll put your information in the
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  Speaker 1: show notes so people can reach you.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: And thanks for this. This was really a joy to
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: talk to you about.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: These things, and it's just really nice to learn more
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: about shamanic practices and somebody who has raised and uncovered themselves,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: and now you're sharing that journey and that's beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: Tay Care everybody. We'll talk to you next time.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Thanks for spending this time with me on Mediumship Sparks.
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