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  listening and tuning in. Got a very important show for
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  you today. As always here on the Trench
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  Talk Edition. Let's see what's going on in
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  life today. I was sharing offline about one
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  of the things that I do throughout the week.
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  Twice a week now, Mondays and Fridays, I mentor 4th and 5th
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  graders around emotional intelligence and just some of
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  the conversations that I hear the children discuss.
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  I reflect back when I was in the 4th grade.
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  I mean, we all have our are eras of, of generational things that
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  we deal with in school. However, it's just some of these
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  conversations that I hear these 4th and 5th graders having.
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  They're like adult topics. Like these are not like children
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  just playing and having fun. They are at like literally
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  having discussions and issues and circumstances at 9 and 10
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  years old that you would think that like where are you learning
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  this from? But as you look at, of course,
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  you know, today's generation with social media, just with
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  things that go on at home. I mean, they hear the music.
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  I mean, it comes from all different aspects of life, I'm
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  sure. But this year, it was last year
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  I did it. It was, it was different this
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  year that just, and even the principles, like there's
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  something going on this right now and very emotional, very the
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  language a couple weeks ago, I had to address the N word with
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  them. And these are a, a group of, you
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  know, between sometimes between 19 to 24 students that we have
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  each week. And like I said, as a, as a, as
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  a grandfather now with, with grandchildren and a five year
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  old grandson, it's like, man, like how do we, how do we help
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  develop our children to where they have the ability to have
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  the space to share 'cause I'm, I don't think they act like that
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  at home. I think they probably hear that
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  in their environment and then come to school and then play it
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  out. But yeah, this year has just
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  been, it's just been different this year for me.
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  And I, I get an hour a week with them.
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  So like 2 hours since it's twice a week now.
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  And I'm just grateful that I'm, I'm able to do that and plant
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  that seed while I'm there to, to just share, you know, life.
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  And, and, and again, they have these affirmations that they
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  say, I, I'm respectful of myself, my peers, my family and
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  my community. And they got them all memorized.
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  But when I came on the scene, I wanted them to talk about and
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  express what it is to be respectful of myself.
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  And what does it feel like when you're not being respectful of
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  myself or of your peers or of your family or your community?
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  And believe me, they know what's going on.
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  They all have, you know, they're different words that they use to
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  describe their experience of what that is and, and, and to
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  hear them share like ways of how they feel when they're not being
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  respectful, even of themselves or their peers.
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  But yet they act like, they don't even act like they like
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  it's just a totally different act on the other side of that.
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  So they know what's going on, but to get them to practice
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  being present to that experience and how you can leave a person.
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  Yeah, we say that, you know what can make you mad or make you
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  anything? Yes.
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  But you have to have that, that strength and that
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  self-confidence and self love for those words not to affect
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  you. But if they but words are
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  powerful, right? And so they do know how they
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  feel in their emotional mindset. But, you know, just creating
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  that space for them to have that talk.
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  I pray that that's enough that, you know, that will start them
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  to get to practice that throughout their classroom
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  because of course it it plays on in the classroom.
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  It plays on on the basketball court playing football.
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  So that's what I'm up to. That's twice a week.
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  The lit live show, the Revolution radio show that has
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  came to an end. That was a four year run over
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  there when it was Dash radio. Now it turned to Lit Live and
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  between the MC Knights and The Who curated that Channel in the
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  negotiations of the new Lit Live platform, they did not come to
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  terms. And so that show has been
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  discontinued for now. I am thinking about bringing it
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  here to MBR, the Christian hip hop talk show.
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  So I'm either going to do that or I, I did send it to SiriusXM
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  to see what, you know, what I could get over there.
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  They do have a Christian hip hop talk show on their app and so I
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  sent it over there. Or I might just take a break.
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  You know, I got, I got a list of shows that I do and so I might
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  just take a break with that one. I'm praying on that to see how
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  that one plays out. What else?
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  Sunday nights, of course, 8:00 PM Pacific Time, KCA radio on
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  that one. The Steel live, that's the
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  variety show with sports as well.
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  That's my, that's my #1 show. This as well.
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  That's my #1 show. Yeah.
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  What else? The Beyond 2D will be coming
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  back soon. Jessica took a break.
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  So that one is on break right now.
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  So we'll be back either this month or next month, but I'll
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  let you know when that comes out.
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  I think that's it. The ABA basketball teams, yeah,
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  we have three ABA basketball teams in EQ athletics.
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  And so we have the Ventura County Orcas, the Riverside
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  County Mavericks and the in the Empire Hounds, the IA Hounds
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  right now my, my partners are only allowing me to launch the
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  IE hounds right now. I, I do want to launch the
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  Riverside team and I would love to launch the Ventura County
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  Orcas as well. But what I did was I, I included
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  them into the ownership. And so now I, I, I don't get the
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  only vote anymore. So I have to share in those
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  conversations. So if I get out voted, I get out
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  voted. So right now we're launching the
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  IE Hounds for sure. They were number 10 out of the
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  entire, out of the 150 teams in the ABA last season.
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  They were #10 up to #5. So we want to keep that momentum
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  going. And also I did, we created a
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  campaign for this season called For the Love of Dogs.
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  And you know, me and one of my partners, Doctor Bonds were
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  talking one day and you know, I've, I've had to put my dog
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  down, my Boxer down after 14 years.
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  And he was talking about how he had his dog for like 17 years.
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  And so we were just, we noticed that both of us was still kind
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  of grieving our animals. And you know, but the eye hounds
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  being the dog, a dog, I was like, well, why don't we just
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  create a campaign and and around in all the different services
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  for dogs and kind of and bring those conversations to the
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  forefront, especially those who have grieving their animals as
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  as we are. And so we're working on
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  launching the campaign for this season for the love of dogs and
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  this we're going to be touching aspects all the way from
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  breeders all the way to the the veterinarians and of course,
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  those places that cremate animals as well.
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  So we're going to get all those communities together, the foster
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  organizations, all the organizations, things that are
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  related to animals, to dogs for sure.
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  We're going to bring them together with our entertainment
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  is basketball and share a lot of stories, share some content,
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  share some information, some resources.
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  I've been looking at stuff on on social media and I guess there's
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  some issues with the president and cutting funding for the
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  animal shelters. So there are things going on in
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  the world around our animals. And so we're going to kick it
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  off with dogs and they were going to ease the cat cat inside
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  of there because I mean, I'm, I'm 55, when I grew up, you
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  didn't have a dog and a cat in the same house because somebody
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  was going to get eaten that day. But people have trained their
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  animals to share the same living space.
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  And so I'm always amazed when I see a dog or a cat hanging out
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  together because like I said in my day, Nah, that that didn't
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  happen. And when I had my dog, for sure
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  that cat was going to be somebody's dinner.
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  So those are the things that we're going to be taking on for
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  the the ABA, that's the American Basketball Association.
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  It's still around. And then we have a couple of
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  franchises over there. I think that's it for now.
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  So, yeah, if you want more information about the sickle
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  cell trade, of course, you can go to WDCON, set.org.
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  There have been some breakthrough conversations
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  around sickle cell trade for sure, because they're starting
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  to document that with sickle cell trait and exercising and
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  the rhythm myelosis. There have been people dying of
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  course from those complications. But the kidneys are are become a
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  problem because the proteins that has been urine in in I mean
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  blood in the urine. And so they're associating some
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  of those issues and even the rare kidney cancer is triggered
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  by sickle cell traits. So they're starting to pay more
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  attention to it because it is causing health complications.
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  So it is not benign. We've been battling that
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  conversation since I've been at at 14 years.
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  Is sickle cell trait benign or not?
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  And so it took, it took some studies from overseas in the UK,
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  not in the United States, but took some studies overseas for
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  them to come together and document that, yes, there could
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  be some problems with sickle cell trait in the kidneys.
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  And, and we've seen people have complications and, and a rare
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  kidney cancer that's connected to sickle cell trait.
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  Oh, somebody put, they put, people have trained their
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  animals pissed on the toilet. Yeah, I've, I've seen videos of
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  animals using the toilet. They don't flush the toilet, but
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  they definitely use the toilet. All right, so we going to play
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  conversation for you coming up next.
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  at the bottom of the hour about the 45 minute mark and we'll
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  just be having a organic dialogues here.
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  Hey, Mister man, how you doing? Hey, did you see the game last
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  night? But did you see the shot?
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  I lost money from that. Oh man, the shot was.
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  Old man, but it was good. Yeah, what's the name?
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  You really want to know. I.
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  Do exhaustion, muscle spasm, asthmatic issues, unexpected
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  sickle cell trait trait? Damn are.
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  You serious? When I was young I found out I
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  had sickle cell trait. My mom's told me.
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  But I didn't have no knowledge of it.
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  But when I got older, I had a child and the doctor told me my
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  daughter had sickle cell trait. You know, the fact that both
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  parents have sickle cell trait, there's a 50% chance the child
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  may have the trait and 25% chance of trying to have the
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  disease, and that's what's the count.
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  Do you know that 2.5 million people in the United States have
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  sickle cell trait? 300 million people globally.
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  I didn't find out I had sickle cell trait until I was in the
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  army 10 years. Next thing you know, I had a
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  sickle cell trait exertion site, simple cell.
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  I thought that was a black gene or something.
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  Nah, man, the black community is number 21 out of 36,000 babies
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  are being born with sickle cell disease.
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  You could be a Caucasian, Mediterranean, European.
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  You got a bloodline, man. There is an inherited gene in
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  our community that has been forgotten.
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  The name is Sickle cell trait. WDCONSCT, also known as What's
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  the Count, is out to bring awareness, education and
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  prevention to people all over the globe.
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  Want more information? Call us now at 323-215-5384 or
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  visit www.wdconsct.org. All right, welcome back to the
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  All the schedules are there as well for all the different shows
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  here on MB Radio. So today's topic is, you know,
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  it's, it's very important. I, I, I lightly glazed over the
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  conversation that I do with the elementary school students
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  because it, like I said, I'm just, I'm just so shocked at
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  their conversation. But really, really at the core
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  of today's topic, I believe it is, you know, what is going on
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  with us as people today, right? And for me, when I, the work
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  that I've done on myself to, to, to be in front of you, that
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  sense of belonging is important, right?
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  And so we know that we all experience some little level of
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  being bullied. We all experience some
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  conversations if we tell the truth to our self that we all
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  experience sometimes not being good enough.
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  So there's something wrong with me.
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  I'm on my own. We want to trust people, but
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  however, I don't really trust myself.
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  So, and really, when I, when I did the research biblically,
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  bigly, I'm not supposed to trust in man anyway.
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  I'm supposed to have confidence in you.
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  I'm not supposed to put all that trust in you because it there's
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  expectations or things that happened.
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  I mean, we're flawed as people, but at some point, what drives a
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  person, what drives a person to want to take another person's
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  life or what level of anger or what level of disappointment or
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  despair does one have to get that that has them want to take
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  another person's life in any, in any circumstance, right?
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  In any level, in any age bracket, right.
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  So the little girl that we talked to on Monday, she's, we
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  discovered for her to be kind of like the ringleader of the, of
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  the, of the, the, the group. And when we asked her like, you
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  know, what's going on, you know, things like that.
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  And she says, well, I was bullied at the, I was bullied at
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  the other school. And so now at this school, to
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  protect herself, she's angry and and she comes across as with her
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  anger, she leads with that upset and that frustration because she
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  was bullied at another school. Now that's not saying it's right
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  or wrong, but we're pointing to is her experience.
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  And so we we talk about it, you know, we glaze over these
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  conversations, but what is really at the root of a person's
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  mindset that gets them to the point of where they want to do
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  harm to another person? What is that?
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  Because the commandments are those #1 and #2 is to love God
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  and to love your neighbors as the same as you love yourself.
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  So how much does one have to love themselves or not love
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  themselves to take another person's life?
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  And we see it all day long. But we have a guest today who's
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  going to share some information and some of his background and,
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  and what he's discovered and some of the things he's
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  experienced around. I believe this top this topic
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  because at the end of the day, and we're human beings, we want
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  to belong, we want to be included.
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  But there are things that happened to us that sometimes
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  our minds make these corrupted decisions and then we start
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  living from these upsets and these frustrations and, and that
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  can cause another person to want to harm another person.
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  And then you have mass shootings.
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  We have things that happen at school.
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  We have all these different things that the media, you know,
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  displays for us. And then how do we take that?
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  Do we tolerate those conversations because it hasn't
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  hit, it hasn't hit my front door yet?
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  Or do we really, you know, search and try to figure out how
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  we can help these subjects? And for me, teaching that
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  emotional intelligence, even at that level of 4th and 5th
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  graders, you know, we pray every day that that they hear and
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  apply something that they hear from us at those schools.
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  So with no further ado, our special guest today is Mr. Bart
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  Womack. Man, how you doing today?
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  Doing well by yourself? I'm good, I'm good.
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  Thank you for hanging out today with us.
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  Yeah, I appreciate you having me.
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  And me, I'm so enthralled with what you've been talking about
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  so far and everything. I'm like, what am I going to go
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  with this? I want to jump in on some of
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  that other stuff. Yeah.
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  Yeah, do me a favor, introduce yourself, and then we'll get
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  started. How's that?
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  Yeah. So I'm Bart Womack commenced our
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  men retired and I say so I may watch her for over 29 1/2 years,
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  honorably retired in 2006. Did did various things since
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  retirement. But now I'm a public speaker and
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  security consultant to provide proactive situation awareness
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  strategies to mitigate insider threat and mass shooting attacks
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  in academic institutions, the workplace, in places of worship.
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  And I, like I said this, this has been going on for since I've
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  been born. I mean, this, this is not brand
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  new conversation. But before we get into that, why
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  that that why you're here? What?
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  What had you joined the service so long ago?
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  Yeah, well, it was, it was, it wasn't intentional.
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  You know, I was 17 when I graduated high school and I was
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  always working like I had a paper route, you know, going way
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  back, that long paper route for your audience, you had to put
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  some down the shoulder. So you don't say what about it
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  is it is a paper, a newspaper route?
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  What is that thing? And I always, I always work,
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  right? So I told myself because I was
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  17, I'm going to continue to work for a year.
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  And then when I'm 18, you know, after a year that I would go to
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  college, right? So I didn't make it to that year
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  end up joining the military. And that happened by the fact
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  that I was my next oldest brother had wrecked a car and I
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  used to drive to work and then I had to start catching the bus.
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  I was in between transfers bus and went to recruiter's office.
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  And because it was cold, I went in there to get warm.
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  And they had the whole spiel. You know, one thing led to
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  another and then probably a total of four months later, you
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  know there was in the military. Yeah, wow.
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  Anybody before you proceed, it was in the.
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  Oldest brother had served in the Navy, but so he's like 19 years
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  older than me. So his time and doing it and me
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  actually, I, I never saw him in uniform.
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  So he was in and out and I didn't know anything.
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  I mean, I knew that he had served, but he didn't really
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  talk about anything. So it wasn't like, you know,
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  military family by any means. I wasn't following anybody.
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  I was I was super naive about the military got invasion tried
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  and said, hey, we had have this airborne school or this airborne
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  orientation and I said, what's everyone said jumping out
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  airplanes. I'm undergoing to that.
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  Then it said they paid 55. I was mother like where I going?
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  Where do I sign? I'm chief $55.
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  That was it. OK, I'm ready.
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  Yeah, I I mean to make it to the rank of command * major.
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  I mean, that's, that's the top of the chart looking back on, on
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  each level of rank, if you can remember, how was that for you?
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  I, I, I know for myself, the, the pride and me and my identity
• 23:24
  going from E4 to E5 from that next, that, that level of
• 23:26
  responsibility, I think for me is where I noticed when I, when
• 23:30
  I reflect back that I, I kind of lost myself in, in, in that
• 23:34
  rank, in that responsibility that I became like Sergeant, you
• 23:39
  know, Sergeant dossier, like I became Sergeant, staff Sergeant
• 23:41
  like, because I say that because in my transition out of the
• 23:44
  service, when that rank in that uniform was taken away from my
• 23:48
  medical retirement, I, I was all, I was didn't know who I
• 23:51
  was. So, you know, looking back from
• 23:54
  your level and looking back, do you notice like for you that the
• 23:58
  different changing 'cause you went through the whole, you went
• 24:00
  through the whole list? Yeah, yeah.
• 24:04
  I think we're always given some leadership challenge or
• 24:09
  opportunity long before we are actually in a leadership
• 24:13
  position and and it's around us. So we see it.
• 24:16
  So we get to make a decision for ourselves about how we're going
• 24:20
  to approach that, you know, when it's our turn, even if they're
• 24:23
  the smallest task, take four guys over there and do police
• 24:26
  call, like how you're going to do that, right?
• 24:27
  Especially when they're your peers.
• 24:28
  So you learn long before you put the rank on.
• 24:30
  So when I put the rank on it, it didn't feel any different.
• 24:36
  The pain, you knew that was coming, but did everything else
• 24:39
  feel any different? OK, leading people.
• 24:41
  But you had done it to a degree, you know, so you were
• 24:43
  comfortable doing it. You didn't have, you know, a lot
• 24:47
  of people as a Sergeant. So I, I felt pretty comfortable
• 24:50
  doing it. And then long and behold,
• 24:53
  shortly after that, you know, I, I put in to be a drill Sergeant.
• 24:58
  I, I was AI was a drill Sergeant as a Sergeant.
• 25:01
  So I'm not sure if you can do that now.
• 25:03
  And I. Was 23 years old.
• 25:06
  Oh wow. Yeah, I was a drill Sergeant for
• 25:09
  two years, about nine months I was a Sergeant.
• 25:12
  The rest of the time I was a staff Sergeant, but I started at
• 25:15
  23. My my years as drill Sergeant,
• 25:17
  ages 23 to 25. So.
• 25:21
  Now, now, now that was different, You know, I remember
• 25:23
  that in terms of leadership, because you're taking people who
• 25:26
  just come off the street, don't know anything about the military
• 25:28
  and you have to teach them everything in this eight week
• 25:30
  period of time. So now it's now it's a little
• 25:33
  bit different and they haven't been LED or if they hadn't have
• 25:35
  been LED in this style. And then you have to develop
• 25:38
  your style as a drill. Sard versus, you know, versus
• 25:41
  the sardine is completely different.
• 25:43
  Like it, it's, it's a, you know, what's the persona, You know,
• 25:46
  you're leading the country's men and women and you, you, you're,
• 25:51
  you're making them a soldiers going to go out there to a
• 25:53
  fighting force. And you learn very, very quickly
• 25:56
  that you, you just came from that side and you don't want,
• 26:00
  you don't want a unit getting someone who's unfit, untrained,
• 26:06
  not ready for the military, etcetera, etcetera, even though
• 26:08
  they're going to go into the IT and all that type of stuff
• 26:10
  afterwards. So there's another influence of
• 26:12
  leadership that's involved in when you get the permanent
• 26:14
  party, but still, if you allow them to go to AIT, you have to
• 26:20
  be responsible for that. So, so I remember, you know,
• 26:24
  later on at time first class when I was a tourist on and
• 26:27
  you're getting a new soldier and you're like, who's your drill
• 26:29
  sock? I'm going to go smack him in the
• 26:30
  face. Yeah.
• 26:33
  Especially, you know, imagery guy, imagery guy, right?
• 26:36
  So they come out of ULSA, but they had the same drill, saw him
• 26:39
  for 13 weeks. Like I'm going to slap him in
• 26:41
  the face because he screwed up. But that's the, that's the,
• 26:47
  that's the, that's what you have to embrace as a drill saw.
• 26:51
  And they had to do that at a very young age.
• 26:54
  I, I didn't, I didn't think about the age.
• 26:56
  It was like, well, after my time where I was, I was that old.
• 27:02
  Yeah, pretty good. You know, so I'm not rating
• 27:06
  myself. I'm just saying I could look at
• 27:08
  some 23 year olds and say you there's some things you're ready
• 27:12
  for and some things you aren't ready for, you know what I mean?
• 27:14
  So yeah, so, so that was, that was that's probably when I knew
• 27:19
  I wasn't definitely in charge of people because it was completely
• 27:21
  different than what you had to where you got them and where you
• 27:24
  had to take them to. Right then left there, staff
• 27:26
  started, went to Korea. Now I'm on the now I'm on the
• 27:29
  building, the frontline of Korea where you were actually in and
• 27:33
  out of the JSA with the, with the, you know what enemy, you
• 27:36
  know, the Korean people's Army, right?
• 27:38
  So that that's different when you're squatting literally and
• 27:40
  denying people, you have a real mission that can pop off at any
• 27:43
  time, you know, and it didn't pop off.
• 27:45
  I won't get an act because it's it's it's a short, long story,
• 27:48
  but it it takes a path, but different level of leadership
• 27:52
  when you know you have to do certain things and there's a
• 27:55
  real enemy there and he hadn't done anything in a while.
• 27:57
  But while I was there, we actually got in a firefight with
• 28:00
  the KPAI can say a long story long time ago, but it's that
• 28:04
  level of preparedness that your squad has to be and you have to
• 28:08
  be as a leader, you know, So it's you know, it's eye opening
• 28:11
  and completely different, you know, sort of level and what's
• 28:16
  what's unique about that. And the same thing when you're
• 28:17
  when you're squad leader, you know, you've been the team
• 28:19
  leader, you've been to Joe, you know, all those duties and
• 28:22
  responsibilities. So now you can you can say that
• 28:25
  I won't actually do anything that I haven't done or not
• 28:28
  willing to do. But more importantly, I've
• 28:30
  already, you know, so can't you question, can't you?
• 28:33
  Question. Not at that level, no.
• 28:36
  I can perform it right now if I need to show you, but I don't
• 28:39
  think I need to show you. I'm going to tell you you're
• 28:42
  going to do it, but I'm going to tell you that man.
• 28:44
  Will you believe that? Not only do I know what I'm
• 28:47
  talking about, but he actually did, you know.
• 28:49
  So then you have to relay at the squad.
• 28:52
  You know, they come in cognate, they're filling their owns too
• 28:55
  as as a new staff. Starting and stuff, right?
• 28:57
  I've been charging. More people now you know what's
• 28:59
  not you know what I didn't charge of a team anymore in
• 29:01
  charge of a whole squad. There's more people
• 29:03
  responsibility and after a while, if they're really good,
• 29:06
  they're looking at your job and and I welcome that.
• 29:08
  You know, I'm I'm trying to transmitting me.
• 29:10
  So when I'm not here is going to be taken care of.
• 29:12
  So, but that's what happens each time you go up, you know, then
• 29:16
  your first arms, the same thing with those platoon Sorens and
• 29:19
  they're little they're they're obviously they're smarter than a
• 29:22
  squad leader, but they know they have expectations of what the
• 29:27
  first arms should be. And likewise, they've done that
• 29:31
  job for a year and a half, 18 months, couple years.
• 29:33
  They're eyeballing your job. They know they need the rank for
• 29:36
  it. And they're like, could you
• 29:37
  please like be sick for a day so I can just.
• 29:43
  Just be sick one day. Just one day.
• 29:45
  Give me one day. I was first on 'cause no one
• 29:49
  even says how long right it was like how long right I was.
• 29:52
  Yeah, it was actually 23 hours. The dude came back an hour, hour
• 29:56
  early or whatever, right. Anyway, but, but, but if it, it
• 30:04
  keeps you sharp because you know, you, you have to go out
• 30:07
  there and perform every day. Everybody's looking at you.
• 30:10
  Now, we always talk about the thing and you're talking about
• 30:12
  this with those, those students in terms of leadership.
• 30:16
  It's one thing to say, lead from the front, be the example and
• 30:21
  all that type of stuff. And it's another thing to say,
• 30:25
  do it as if, no, do the right thing when nobody's watching,
• 30:29
  but easier to say than it is to do.
• 30:33
  And that was, that was, it wasn't the hardest thing.
• 30:36
  I, I prided myself on actually doing that like 24/7 weekends.
• 30:43
  I might be seen I need to do the right thing soon as I'm not
• 30:47
  doing that at the first arm or point as a commands arm major
• 30:51
  like you, you, your credibility is gone #1 and you've created a
• 30:55
  new standard. But you have to live.
• 30:59
  Not everybody does even the same ranks they they everybody does
• 31:04
  not live it. You have to live it.
• 31:05
  I think that's the separation, not not that you're out there
• 31:08
  like I'm trying to be better or separate myself.
• 31:11
  You have to live it and that will show in your soldiers in in
• 31:15
  the entire post is going to see that dude lives that not
• 31:21
  overboard, not overboard. I'm just saying.
• 31:24
  Not overboard. Yeah, exactly.
• 31:25
  Not overboard, but. You're not going to catch me,
• 31:28
  but I can stay in front of, you know, those 4000 troops and say
• 31:31
  you ain't going to never catch me because I'm not doing it.
• 31:35
  I'm getting caught. You're never going to see me do
• 31:38
  it because I don't. It's that level of, of
• 31:43
  leadership that builds, you know, more credibility and
• 31:46
  really not that you now that you're trying to do this in the
• 31:49
  Army, but you know, it builds a brand of, of leader.
• 31:54
  No kidding. And and that's, and that's
• 31:58
  really, you know, what we want in, in our society, you know,
• 32:02
  and, and, and as you describe that, as you say that for me,
• 32:05
  I've learned to not just do that, but to be that and, and
• 32:08
  experience being that. And that's what people, because
• 32:11
  like you say, your character is, is inside of that.
• 32:14
  And if you get, if you get caught doing something, you
• 32:17
  know, that could mess it, that could fracture your character,
• 32:19
  that could fracture all of that stuff that you've built with
• 32:22
  that little place with those soldiers.
• 32:24
  So, yeah, no, thank you for that.
• 32:26
  That's very, very important. So one of the main reasons why
• 32:30
  you're here is, is to discuss some of these topics.
• 32:33
  And I, I know I want, I want to touch on the mental aspect of
• 32:39
  it, but I want, I want you to kind of open up the discussion
• 32:42
  and then I'll, I'll kind of follow along and, and, and ask
• 32:46
  my questions from there. But what do you want to start
• 32:47
  around this question, this conversation of?
• 32:50
  Yeah, I'll, I'll show this story of what people see in the
• 32:53
  background. You can see the embedded,
• 32:55
  pardon. You see a little bit of those
• 32:57
  letters, but it's embedded in here, which is the story of the
• 33:00
  March 23rd, 2003 insider threat attack against 101st Airborne
• 33:06
  Division by a fellow American soldier.
• 33:08
  So we we were poised, we were in Kuwait during across the border
• 33:10
  going to Iraq. You know, it's one O clock in
• 33:13
  the morning. A scenario grenade comes into my
• 33:16
  tent followed by a frag grenade. Chaos ensues the grenades
• 33:20
  throwing into the next tent. There's just a gunshot and then
• 33:24
  the grenades going throwing to the next tent.
• 33:26
  So at this point in another gunshot.
• 33:28
  So this .2 have been shot. Frag grenades have gone into
• 33:32
  three different tents where people are sleeping, the first
• 33:35
  being mine and that's all shot. The, the commander is hit by
• 33:41
  shrapnel and that first tent I, I managed somehow to get out of
• 33:46
  here about going through through all the details right in the
• 33:50
  second tent after hearing a gunshot and and frag grenade,
• 33:53
  they begin to stand up. So grenades thrown in there
• 33:56
  through them. Get it pretty good in there.
• 33:57
  Then that same thing happens in the third tent.
• 34:00
  So we're searching for insurgents, not been able to
• 34:01
  find them at all. And just just Fast forward, we
• 34:06
  have mass casualties going on and trying to get them medevac
• 34:09
  out of there. So complete and utter chaos.
• 34:12
  I realized something had to have changed in the camp.
• 34:14
  So what changed? The learning interpreters come
• 34:16
  in that night, so it has to be them.
• 34:18
  Go find them. We find them, interrogate and
• 34:20
  learn to have nothing to do with it.
• 34:22
  So now we're back on the insurgents that we've seen.
• 34:24
  No sign up. Then we do accountability check
• 34:28
  and learn the one person is missing.
• 34:30
  So are grenades, ammunition. That becomes our #1 suspect.
• 34:33
  And of course we find out that it was one of our own soldiers
• 34:36
  who committed the attack. He has one of the reasons for
• 34:39
  doing it that we later found out two years after that in the
• 34:43
  trial we had written anti American things.
• 34:48
  I'll read a couple to you. I do not like the military that
• 34:52
  had too much control over people's lives.
• 34:54
  I suppose I'm just anti government.
• 34:56
  I wrote that in 1990. Three. 1996 he wrote anyone who
• 34:59
  stands in front of me, she'll be considered the enemy and dealt
• 35:02
  with accordingly. 1996 he writes Destroying America was my plan
• 35:05
  as a child and as a juvenile and in college on life will not be
• 35:09
  completed as America is destroyed.
• 35:11
  Destroying America is my greatest goal. 1998 he joins the
• 35:14
  military. So this was planned, you know,
• 35:17
  so we're thinking like we're thinking after he's captured
• 35:21
  like what what did he put out there?
• 35:24
  What was the sign that that we that we missed?
• 35:26
  Well, we didn't miss a sign because man, this all along long
• 35:30
  before he even joined the military.
• 35:32
  So once in the military again, this happened March 23rd 2003 in
• 35:37
  February, he wrote in his diary, I'm not going to do anything as
• 35:40
  long as I stay here at Fort Campbell.
• 35:42
  But as soon as I'm in Iraq, I'm going to try to kill as many of
• 35:44
  them as possible. He ends up killing two and
• 35:47
  wounded thirteen others. So we start getting thinking
• 35:51
  about the mindset of a person who does this.
• 35:53
  Now, why do you why, why are you anti government?
• 35:57
  Why are you anti military? Why do you hate America and, and
• 36:01
  you're American more important, why do you join the military?
• 36:03
  You know, so religion doesn't pull the trigger, but you know,
• 36:08
  it was his religious beliefs. He even went on to say that you
• 36:12
  guys are coming into our country and you're going to kill our
• 36:15
  women and rape our children. That's what we said after after
• 36:19
  we caught them and I had to digest what is OUR our mean.
• 36:25
  Like I said, it was all put together later at the trial when
• 36:28
  we learned that he had those things in his diary.
• 36:30
  So, so my take away from that was that, you know, no
• 36:32
  profession, level of education, ideology or religion is above
• 36:36
  reproach. There is no profile inside a
• 36:38
  threat as closer than you think. You know, we would have thought
• 36:41
  that someone who wore the same uniform, took the same oath,
• 36:43
  etcetera, etcetera would be the least capable and having a
• 36:48
  mindset of doing something like this to his own fellow soldiers.
• 36:51
  But obviously not, you know, so I said take away for the world
• 36:56
  is that if it happened inside a close knit brotherhood of the
• 36:59
  armed forces that could have in any campus community or
• 37:01
  organization at any time and anywhere.
• 37:04
  Domestic terrorism is our new reality.
• 37:07
  You know, someone at the wide loss and bodies manually.
• 37:09
  You start thinking, what do I do with this?
• 37:11
  Like, what am I supposed to do with this?
• 37:13
  You know, God, God save me for a reason when other two other
• 37:16
  people that were in my team was three that they were they were
• 37:19
  wounded and others wanted, like I said, two people killed, you
• 37:23
  know, but but why me? You get that survivor's remorse.
• 37:25
  So I I knew that of course, something and so I wrote the
• 37:29
  book embedded enemy, the insider threat.
• 37:33
  And after you have the story of the book, I put in there the
• 37:38
  situation aware of the strategies to try to to
• 37:42
  enlighten people to have some tools they can use to mitigate
• 37:46
  an insider threat. And long behold, you know, mass
• 37:49
  shooter attack long before they were happened as frequently as
• 37:52
  as frequently as as they are now.
• 37:54
  So. Those strategies are trust no
• 37:58
  one. I heard you align what the Bible
• 38:02
  says about trust. I was like, wow, so poignant,
• 38:04
  so, so timely, right? And and and I didn't know that.
• 38:08
  So I appreciate you sharing that, you know, but but our
• 38:11
  strategy is trust no one. And you know, I'll see.
• 38:14
  I'm going to say that after coming out of an attack like
• 38:17
  that, if it happened in that manner, someone's supposed to
• 38:20
  supposed to have your back, shooting you in your back, like
• 38:24
  one person who killed a shot point black in the back, you
• 38:26
  know, so trust no one. And when I say that I want
• 38:29
  people to think about how they trust.
• 38:31
  I know that they're going to trust somebody.
• 38:33
  I like what you said, what the Bible says, I'm going to look
• 38:35
  that one up. But if I say trust no one,
• 38:38
  people are going to think, well, I have to trust somebody.
• 38:40
  And some people's the way they approach that is I'll trust
• 38:45
  until they give me a reason not to.
• 38:46
  I think wrong. So I say no one, they're going
• 38:51
  to think a little bit harder about how they trust.
• 38:53
  And that's what I want them to do.
• 38:54
  Start thinking about how you do it.
• 38:56
  Next one is observed listening report like we might see
• 39:00
  something, but but are we doing anything about it?
• 39:03
  And it's more than see something and say something in my opinion.
• 39:06
  Like you, you saw it happen. You might hear it or you might
• 39:11
  just see it, but then you need to report.
• 39:14
  I was an apartment building manager in in LA and you let me
• 39:18
  know how we're doing on time. And I just took over and
• 39:22
  realized this one light was was out when I came out this door,
• 39:25
  you know, and it was like January, you know, So 5:00 PM
• 39:28
  starts getting dark, right? And I realized the light wasn't
• 39:31
  on. So I go back in the building and
• 39:33
  I get a pen and a piece of paper.
• 39:35
  And I come back out again and I'm checking all the exterior
• 39:38
  lights so I can get them replaced.
• 39:40
  And I say to myself, if someone's watching me right now,
• 39:42
  they should think this is suspicious behavior.
• 39:44
  This case. I'm casing the building now,
• 39:47
  this apartment building in LA on Gately, right across, I mean,
• 39:51
  directly across the street from UCLA.
• 39:55
  Anybody have been UCLA? Most people around here don't
• 40:00
  look like me unless they play football.
• 40:02
  So you got that going on. And so I said, everyone looking
• 40:07
  at me and said thank, this is special behavior.
• 40:09
  So I go back in, come out another door, do some more
• 40:12
  checks to go back in the house and start checking into your
• 40:15
  lights, right? So I get to the fifth floor
• 40:17
  here. Freeze.
• 40:18
  Well, you know, I've been around long enough to know what that
• 40:20
  means. You know, someone's pointing a
• 40:22
  gun at you and they're behind me and I hear the voice.
• 40:23
  It sounds much younger than mine's like, OK, I'm compliant.
• 40:26
  I want them to be my experience. I want, you know, tricky finger,
• 40:30
  you know, and say put your hands up a dude, drop the pen in the
• 40:32
  paper. It has me on my back.
• 40:34
  I get handcuffed. Then they say, well, you think
• 40:36
  the one that was called in, I'm like, no, I am the description
• 40:39
  because remember, I just told myself, no, it is me.
• 40:42
  All all you did is going to happen if someone was paying
• 40:45
  attention and long and behold they were.
• 40:47
  So I applauded the person who was paying attention because
• 40:50
  it's right up the alley of observe, listen to report.
• 40:53
  There was nothing to hear but they observed.
• 40:55
  Was it to be suspicious behavior and then they reported it.
• 40:58
  Now I'm not sure who escalated to the level to have 5 police
• 41:02
  officers show up armed for the first who was called in to have
• 41:08
  a pen and a piece of paper. I don't know if that was
• 41:11
  dispatched or they had nothing else to do so everyone joined in
• 41:14
  on the call. Not sure I'm going to, so I'm
• 41:17
  coming. I don't know what that was.
• 41:18
  Anyway, in my opinion, the right thing was done.
• 41:22
  And, and so, so when I'm talking to the audiences, you know what
• 41:26
  I'm speaking. I, I, I like to share that one
• 41:29
  because the worst that happened was they got the guy, but
• 41:34
  nothing was wrong. No, again, way too many police
• 41:38
  officers showed up. You know, next one is know your
• 41:40
  neighbor alluded that and and you're in the beginning as well.
• 41:45
  And what I mean by that, I mean just the person next door, but I
• 41:47
  mean like your fellow student, your fellow, your your fellow Co
• 41:51
  worker know begin to know people, the more you know about
• 41:54
  them. And you have to get all in their
• 41:56
  business. But they will begin to talk.
• 41:58
  And once they begin to talk, they're going to tell you stuff.
• 42:01
  They're going to tell you something to happen at home.
• 42:02
  They're going to tell you on the way to work.
• 42:04
  So and so cut them off. That was the second time.
• 42:06
  It's the same guy on the same route.
• 42:08
  Now I got the license plate. I know somebody that's Pi.
• 42:11
  I'm going to, I'm going to I'm you know, if you are paying, you
• 42:15
  are listening to if you know them, they'll tell you, right?
• 42:18
  And it goes, it goes on, you know, the more, but just take
• 42:21
  some time to know them. Then the next one is listen,
• 42:24
  don't just hear. I used to work at a military
• 42:26
  college and these students were in the classroom, sophomores, 19
• 42:30
  year olds, criminal justice class to get on the subject of
• 42:33
  guns and see what I'm saying. I have a gun and I have a gun.
• 42:37
  This one guy says why have an AK47 and they kind of laugh and
• 42:41
  it's in the trunk of my car. Now the professor was in the
• 42:43
  classroom and he the professor knows that guns aren't allowed
• 42:47
  on campus. All right, but professor doesn't
• 42:50
  do anything, but a fellow 19 year old student was listening
• 42:57
  to the point where it sounded a matter of fact.
• 43:01
  You have to listen to where something sounds a matter of
• 43:07
  fact. Oh, why?
• 43:07
  You just hear, you know, someone told you say hey, you're trash
• 43:12
  and you don't do it right away. And they tell you three times
• 43:14
  like I know you hear me. Yeah, I hear you, but I'm not
• 43:17
  desperate to you right now. You know what I mean?
• 43:19
  So. So it's a big deal.
• 43:22
  It tells me that this is what happened in class.
• 43:25
  Someone said, yeah, AK47 instead of trunk of his car.
• 43:28
  It sounded a matter of fact. I don't know what you're going
• 43:30
  to do with it, but I, I just got to tell you, right.
• 43:33
  So almost along the lines of, of listening, your reporter, right?
• 43:37
  But more importantly, it was the listening of just hearing
• 43:39
  because there's other people in the classroom who did nothing to
• 43:41
  include the adult professor. So he walked him to his car, get
• 43:46
  about 100 yards from his car. So I just want you to know if
• 43:48
  you get to my car and the AK47 in the trunk of my car, no, no
• 43:53
  ill will was playing with that. He was supposed to link up with
• 43:56
  a buddy and take it over to his friend's house, to his friend's
• 44:00
  dad's house, who lived in a rural area.
• 44:01
  And dad was going to lock it up and they would come out there on
• 44:04
  the weekends and shoot it, but they missed the link up to
• 44:06
  death. So but his mistake was like I
• 44:09
  said, no, your neighbors and mistake was running his mouth to
• 44:14
  the point of all day, of all days of class in criminal
• 44:20
  justice class, the day they're talking about guns.
• 44:22
  Guess what you do, you do nothing.
• 44:26
  You don't talk, you know what I mean?
• 44:28
  But they will tell you if you are a situationally aware,
• 44:32
  right? And the last one is gut check.
• 44:34
  Like your gut is your strongest sense.
• 44:37
  It will, it will tell you a lot of things.
• 44:39
  So when these things happen, these shootings, right, no
• 44:42
  matter where they are, we'll hear they will.
• 44:44
  I always thought, I always thought, well, your gut hate
• 44:49
  that, you know, but you didn't do anything with it.
• 44:51
  Now we have dead people and wounded people.
• 44:54
  He even attacked 3 weeks ago, almost 3 weeks ago I think at at
• 44:57
  Florida State University. He was 2020 years old, the son,
• 45:04
  stepson of of a deputy sheriff. That's the guy he used to commit
• 45:10
  the attack. But he was in this, he was in
• 45:12
  this political group on campus there.
• 45:16
  I don't know what they meant this political group and the
• 45:20
  only rule they had was you couldn't be Nazi.
• 45:25
  That was it. And dude, begin to express
• 45:30
  extremism towards, you know, super, super, super far right.
• 45:36
  You know, politics doesn't pull the trigger here.
• 45:38
  I'm just telling you that the guy was in the group, right?
• 45:42
  And, and also white Supremes. He got extreme with both to the
• 45:52
  point where the president running the group kicked him
• 45:54
  out. You know, you violated the rule.
• 45:57
  It was obnoxious, but he was so extreme with it that they kicked
• 46:01
  him out. So extreme.
• 46:03
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 46:04
  But when when did we hear about that?
• 46:05
  After he killed 7 people, eight people.
• 46:10
  That's when it injured others to me that that was the sign.
• 46:14
  You have to pay for what they're giving you.
• 46:17
  I'm paying. You're already in a group.
• 46:19
  So it's already borderline something.
• 46:21
  And I think that, you know, people have a belief and we we
• 46:26
  are encouraging people younger and younger to believe in
• 46:29
  something like believer, whatever or fall for nothing
• 46:32
  type of thing, whatever the saying is.
• 46:33
  But we encourage them to believe in something.
• 46:36
  So we shouldn't be surprised as parents.
• 46:38
  Great. And when they go out and now
• 46:39
  they're believing in the same way.
• 46:40
  I didn't mean that you're not the wrong.
• 46:42
  I meant this not that when someone got to them radicalized,
• 46:48
  radicalized is OK, you know, But then when you are so against
• 46:54
  someone else who's not for what you were for, and then you
• 46:57
  become extreme about it. And after extreme, it just go
• 47:00
  just a matter of time. And that, and that's what
• 47:03
  happened to him now, he didn't even kill people.
• 47:05
  That was against what he was against.
• 47:07
  Two of the people that he killed was a, a, a guy there for the
• 47:12
  day to he, he provided all the food and stuff in the cafeteria.
• 47:17
  He ran that contract and he was walking around outside with the
• 47:21
  like the cafeteria manager. He didn't know if they how they
• 47:24
  were aligned or anything like that.
• 47:27
  But when you become extreme, it's just a matter of time.
• 47:32
  And when you become extreme, you don't just sit at home and
• 47:35
  become extreme. It'll happen like that.
• 47:38
  You've got to do something, to tell somebody something.
• 47:40
  So that's why we had to be situation aware, you know.
• 47:43
  So when I came up with these strategies, when the book came
• 47:45
  out in 2013, it's still new because you just got to find out
• 47:49
  about it, right? I didn't even, I began to find
• 47:53
  them at the time. They would be relevant for quite
• 47:55
  some time because while I was writing the book, I began to
• 48:00
  watch what I perceive to be inside a threat attacks.
• 48:04
  So I'm not talking about every shooting going on is one.
• 48:07
  I'm saying if it follows the model and it follows that these
• 48:11
  strategies can help them mitigate it, then in the lines
• 48:14
  with it, then I'll talk about and I'll use it as an example.
• 48:17
  So I had hope that it would, that the strategies would, would
• 48:26
  last for a while and, and, and be able to work in these
• 48:30
  situations. I, I couldn't fathom at the
• 48:33
  level of attacks that that have happened since that time.
• 48:38
  I, I, I did not see that. Yeah.
• 48:42
  But to this day, no one's the wiser in in an academic
• 48:46
  institution or the workplace about these attacks because they
• 48:49
  they don't even know that's just about these straight.
• 48:52
  They don't know about anything because no one talks about that.
• 48:54
  That that's why they're proactive.
• 48:56
  Yeah, exactly. Run high and fight once the
• 48:59
  bullets start. But you need that too.
• 49:01
  But when I'm talking about, we'll stop it before it happens.
• 49:04
  Let's stop the shooting. What leads what?
• 49:06
  Leads up to that, Yeah. What's with the patterns that
• 49:09
  leads up to that, right? And.
• 49:11
  You think about the risk of that little group, right?
• 49:14
  And this guy, this guy is this. The disposition was so bad they
• 49:19
  kicked him out, but he didn't go tell anybody on campus like we
• 49:24
  have this ticking time bomb that feels this way.
• 49:28
  Watch out if you are getting you didn't tell anybody, right?
• 49:32
  So that's why I, I, I watched the attack and I wait two or
• 49:35
  three days as they do their investigation because that same
• 49:39
  type thing comes out all the time after the fact.
• 49:43
  After the fact. After the fact.
• 49:45
  The fact after the fact, yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, you
• 49:50
  know, we say we, we, we communicate well, but
• 49:56
  communication is all also listening.
• 50:00
  And we say that we're good listeners, but a lot of times we
• 50:03
  listen to react or to respond. And like you say, you miss those
• 50:08
  key descriptions, those keywords that people say that are on a,
• 50:15
  on a, on a level of extreme versus just a casual
• 50:18
  conversation. Like we, we, we overlook those
• 50:21
  even with our, you know, with our children, you know, with,
• 50:24
  with our, with our loved ones, Like we don't, we hear them.
• 50:29
  But like you said, I, I believe it is there's, there's a level
• 50:34
  of still a level of confidence, a level of self-confidence that
• 50:38
  has to be had for me to say, hey, you know what man, I heard
• 50:41
  you say that. What's going on with you like
• 50:42
  that? That's a different kind of
• 50:44
  person than to be like I heard it and then let it go.
• 50:48
  That's a level of I'd like to tell students that it is cool to
• 50:52
  be correct. I I need you to step in some
• 50:55
  things that are said beg a question.
• 50:58
  Some things that are done in front of you beg a question.
• 51:01
  UNL be a student in in ANBA class comes in in all black
• 51:06
  fatigues in military boots and all that in the NBA.
• 51:11
  That's fine if the subject was that, right?
• 51:15
  But teacher, that professor doesn't say nothing.
• 51:18
  Fellow students don't say a word.
• 51:20
  Now nothing happened. But in your eyes, in this class,
• 51:25
  when a person wears this and hadn't worn that before, it begs
• 51:28
  the question, I don't care if you make a joke about the
• 51:31
  question, but this is the education that that that
• 51:33
  students and people need. They're not they don't they
• 51:36
  can't think fast enough to be sad enough to say you can make a
• 51:38
  joke. Like, OK, do you have an
• 51:40
  audition as a military guy? Did you just join special forces
• 51:44
  or you dealt it or you me, you can make a joke about it, but it
• 51:47
  begs the question, let's hear what's coming out of their mouth
• 51:50
  because we don't know if they're going to go to wherever we go
• 51:52
  right back with the gun. It, you know, they they're
• 51:54
  making an assessment then having this class next week.
• 51:57
  I was coming soon, you know, I gave a warning.
• 52:01
  Doesn't this look odd? Does it happen?
• 52:03
  You an NBA? But no one said anything.
• 52:06
  Nothing happened. My point is, some behavior and
• 52:09
  some things beg a question. They put it right out there in
• 52:12
  front of you. But that type of thing happens
• 52:14
  all the time. Yeah, it's, it's, it's the
• 52:18
  ability to really, you know, we and we talk about, we, we talk
• 52:23
  about pay attention to your surroundings.
• 52:24
  Like I, I tell my daughters, always pay attention to your
• 52:28
  surroundings, like look and see what looks out of place, what
• 52:31
  doesn't fit the environment, you know?
• 52:33
  And so we, we say that. But then again, like you said
• 52:37
  it, it has to be some like some level of skill set to that.
• 52:43
  We have to be able to introduce, you know, scenarios or whatever
• 52:49
  that is. Like, hey, look, you got to be
• 52:51
  able to pay attention. You got to have the confidence.
• 52:53
  Yeah, it's, it's not that you're snitching or you're telling on
• 52:55
  somebody, but it's, it's, it's a level of safety, right?
• 53:00
  You know, it's a level of safety.
• 53:02
  I was, I was traveling one time and I had my golf bag and it's
• 53:05
  kind of a kind of hard plastic container, you know, so it's a
• 53:09
  golf. So it's, you know, it's, it's
• 53:10
  pretty round and tall, right? And I get into a Uber, you know,
• 53:14
  Uber driver says, is that a gun case?
• 53:18
  Like, OK, we obviously never seen a golf bag.
• 53:21
  But again, I appreciated him asking because it begged a
• 53:25
  question. OK, I'm a driver.
• 53:27
  I need to know if there's guns going going to be in my car,
• 53:29
  even though this thing going in the trunk.
• 53:30
  But it begged a question. Wow.
• 53:34
  Yeah, I can tell them all that I applaud as it's a golf bag or
• 53:37
  whatever. I didn't I didn't even applaud
• 53:38
  them for looking at this and and you know, saying a whole begging
• 53:42
  question thing. But my point is, he was
• 53:44
  situationally aware enough to know that.
• 53:48
  What is that? Yeah, having seen.
• 53:51
  I don't want to get it. Yeah.
• 53:54
  So if you got to get guns in there, you might have small
• 53:56
  guns, too. You weren't driving?
• 53:58
  Yes, Nobody. You got a gun in that backpack?
• 54:00
  Right, right. I ain't.
• 54:02
  Trying to get that. My point is, you know, he saw
• 54:05
  something and asked something. Yeah, let me take this
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• 57:13
  Dosier Show, Trends Talk Edition.
• 57:16
  Wow. Again, I hope you had an
• 57:19
  opportunity to just kind of listen to these conversations
• 57:21
  because it is very important for us to, we say, pay attention, we
• 57:26
  say these things, but do we really implement these right?
• 57:31
  And, and, and, you know, for me to, to be able to relate to
• 57:34
  this, maybe not maybe because I was a, a soldier myself 24 years
• 57:39
  and I still have some of that listening ability.
• 57:43
  But then how do we teach this? Like, how do we help other
• 57:46
  people not just talk about it, but talk from it and pay
• 57:51
  attention. I think that is very important
• 57:53
  for people to pay attention. Let me bring in Big Drake.
• 57:56
  Big Drake, man. What's happening, man?
• 57:57
  Hey, you know man, once again, salute man, salute man.
• 58:04
  I was sitting back watching, meditating, thinking about what
• 58:08
  Mr. Womack was saying and he kept in that background 31 years
• 58:13
  security expert. So I know running for City
• 58:16
  Council and that's one of my main measurements is to get
• 58:20
  these incentives in the schools about that assessment of
• 58:24
  schools. And I called the shadow master,
• 58:25
  what I called it, what he was saying when the kids come and
• 58:28
  wearing, you know, all black clothes in school and asking
• 58:30
  that simple question. How I would look at it is pay
• 58:33
  more attention to your surroundings as a student
• 58:35
  individual. Like he was saying, I always say
• 58:38
  a little Bobby in the corner and you got people bullying him.
• 58:41
  You know what he's going through.
• 58:43
  And you know, all of a sudden the parents start changing every
• 58:44
  day. Every day now.
• 58:45
  I love Bobby, got black hair and nails.
• 58:47
  And. Right.
• 58:49
  And he used to be a, he used to be blind.
• 58:51
  And I. Didn't he looked?
• 58:52
  Before in the class and what is Bobby He absent?
• 58:54
  No Bobby sitting right next to you.
• 58:55
  He didn't change your parents. You don't pay attention.
• 58:57
  So then Bobby goes home and gets on on YouTube.
• 59:00
  Oh how do you how do you say more good.
• 59:03
  He told his father to go to the house now Bobby coming school.
• 59:05
  Most schools will stop going through the bags checking bags
• 59:08
  check most of them stop now and let their guard down Some of
• 59:11
  this America we we got it. You don't have it and then the
• 59:14
  kids decided I'm pissed off. I go at school that there has
• 59:17
  mass shooting, you know, so it's it's sad that we're not teaching
• 59:22
  that. So I taught that with my female
• 59:24
  bodyguards. Archangels taught them the best
• 59:27
  when Kevin trained them. Our serratic areas.
• 59:29
  My girls will tell you they are not.
• 59:30
  They don't go nowhere now without that.
• 59:32
  They don't park next to vans and none of that stuff.
• 59:35
  They park the lidded area. So you used well, Mr. Woolman
• 59:38
  was talking. I have I have my body of shield
• 59:40
  armor going on. I'm like, man.
• 59:43
  Let me bring him to the stage. Let me bring him on.
• 59:46
  This is real man. Salute you, Sir.
• 59:49
  All right, take the. Good service.
• 59:51
  Yeah. Well, expert, expert.
• 59:53
  I mean, I, I'm an expert in it. My uncle was a CIA Army Ranger.
• 59:58
  He he was, and he came from experience of training with,
• 1:00:02
  with him. I used to go in the and mom
• 1:00:03
  bought it and he had a cabinet trained up in the snow with him
• 1:00:06
  to shoot snipers, shoot with him, all that stuff.
• 1:00:08
  We, we learn hand to hand, you know, the survival stuff.
• 1:00:12
  And I came back, started teaching it.
• 1:00:13
  And I ended up putting A-Team together and we had a team for
• 1:00:16
  all these years. And I got in the game for 31
• 1:00:18
  years. I worked with the biggest names
• 1:00:20
  in the industry. I work with royalty from
• 1:00:22
  Princess Diana to James Brown. I've assisted a lot of people in
• 1:00:26
  different accolades. Then it comes to schools.
• 1:00:29
  The school shootings. I had a measurement.
• 1:00:31
  I went to the the schools to try to put the measurement in the
• 1:00:33
  school. They laughed at me.
• 1:00:35
  They said, oh, yeah, we, we don't need that.
• 1:00:36
  No schools. Oh, you need it in the schools
• 1:00:38
  because that's what the kids are.
• 1:00:39
  Are are are mainly white people dealing with Bulldadism in
• 1:00:43
  schools. You need it there.
• 1:00:44
  And for some reason, Mr. Alberto, he don't, he don't put
• 1:00:48
  that big nose in no business and make make these schools a better
• 1:00:51
  place in LA. They, they, they give them kids
• 1:00:54
  that burning people's their hair out the LA students pushing kids
• 1:00:57
  on the 2nd floor, burning kids with with fire things.
• 1:01:01
  That's a threat. That's the actual adjustment.
• 1:01:03
  And that's what I did. No one listen, I don't know how
• 1:01:07
  we're going to change that. I mean, you got any solutions
• 1:01:10
  how you would change that? Yeah, I I think they need to
• 1:01:14
  hear that. The approach is proactive and,
• 1:01:17
  and, and not reactive. And I was going to say this
• 1:01:21
  earlier that, you know, as parents, really, there's this
• 1:01:27
  thing called a proximity illusion.
• 1:01:29
  And the closer you are to it, the more you believe it ain't
• 1:01:32
  going to happen. It ain't going to be our
• 1:01:34
  children until it's our children.
• 1:01:37
  I feel, I feel sorry for parents all the time.
• 1:01:39
  Except. For the ones who.
• 1:01:40
  Are buying their their kid a gun.
• 1:01:42
  I don't feel sorry for them because I don't know what the
• 1:01:44
  hell you expected but but for the ones who you know and they
• 1:01:49
  don't see the signs they don't listen they don't observe.
• 1:01:54
  They just it's just their kid doing what their kid does so
• 1:01:57
  even the thing like like you said earlier, it's telling you
• 1:02:01
  that, but do you say that? Well, parents, the closer you
• 1:02:05
  are to it, you don't hear it in the same way.
• 1:02:09
  So you think they care to Florida State, you telling me
• 1:02:13
  that you you have that level of extremism?
• 1:02:17
  I'm not saying it was taught in the home, but you trying to tell
• 1:02:19
  me one that ever came up in that house right now it came up.
• 1:02:23
  He might not have. He might.
• 1:02:25
  Not have took the. Conversation to the extreme but
• 1:02:27
  it definitely it wasn't a situation where it wasn't
• 1:02:30
  mentioned at all at all yeah at all right, but it's.
• 1:02:34
  Those things that proximity. Illusion, the closer you are to
• 1:02:36
  it, the more you believe it ain't going to happen.
• 1:02:37
  And that's what's happening in the schools.
• 1:02:39
  They think, well, you know, we had nothing like we had some
• 1:02:41
  fires and stuff like that and this stuff doing some stuff, but
• 1:02:45
  it ain't going to be like that. And so they they try to wish it
• 1:02:48
  away there. There was a school shoot in They
• 1:02:53
  were Santa Fe, TX in 2019 and. I'll tell you about.
• 1:02:58
  The attacker in a minute, but I went to hug this little girl
• 1:03:01
  because she said this. I always knew it was going to
• 1:03:06
  happen here. Now where did she get that from?
• 1:03:09
  Like what I'm saying? Standpoint, but say that.
• 1:03:14
  But guess who won't say it? The administration.
• 1:03:17
  Bingo. The administration wasn't saying
• 1:03:18
  it. Bingo.
• 1:03:20
  But the students are saying it. So they're like begging for for
• 1:03:24
  something, you know, so the dollars has to be put into to
• 1:03:29
  the training, you know, so when I go speak, I mean, it didn't
• 1:03:31
  cost that much to bring me in and, and facilitate a class to
• 1:03:34
  do a training and, you know, all that stuff and whatever to save
• 1:03:38
  lives versus some other stuff that they're spending money on,
• 1:03:43
  you know, so it, it, it does, it does cost you some money.
• 1:03:47
  But you know, I get AI get a college and I say, what do you
• 1:03:50
  charge? I say, what's the, what's the
• 1:03:51
  student's life worth? OK, what's your life worth?
• 1:03:54
  Obviously, silence happens. Right.
• 1:04:00
  Budget. Let's negotiate.
• 1:04:02
  But you. Know that's Bentley you're
• 1:04:04
  driving as a principal, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:06
  One student's life. I know that.
• 1:04:08
  My talks are going to say what people say, all of us in the
• 1:04:11
  audience. But how much?
• 1:04:12
  One student might work. Yeah.
• 1:04:14
  OK. But then you, you can afford me
• 1:04:15
  if you care about that. So, I mean, I understand your
• 1:04:18
  job as administrator, but you have student Gene.
• 1:04:20
  You have nothing, you know, so but that's high school when
• 1:04:25
  you're talking about the kid changing their nails and all
• 1:04:27
  that. He he wore the school he had
• 1:04:31
  wore it at a time a certain he said born to kill.
• 1:04:36
  I mean, you know what I mean something right.
• 1:04:39
  And then he frequently wore in Santa Fe, TX.
• 1:04:43
  He frequently wore like almost daily, a trench coat.
• 1:04:48
  Yep. When it's 8595°.
• 1:04:51
  Darn straight. Yeah, most of the time, right.
• 1:04:54
  And and now now 85, nine degrees, like OK, it rained 4
• 1:04:58
  times during school year, maybe 5, maybe 5.
• 1:05:03
  Yeah, wow. I'm.
• 1:05:05
  Getting 10 for the host, Yeah. You wearing it on days?
• 1:05:09
  Those 10 days plus those other days.
• 1:05:11
  It begged a question. I want to hear what would come
• 1:05:15
  out, what would have come out of.
• 1:05:16
  His mouth. To me, if I see that and it's
• 1:05:19
  85°, whether it ain't raining or whatever, and I said two days in
• 1:05:22
  a row, I mean as administrator, and I don't care how old they
• 1:05:26
  are, they need to know some history.
• 1:05:28
  What what, what does that mean? Miss Adams?
• 1:05:31
  You, I mean with the church coating school just about Well,
• 1:05:34
  well see what Trish is noted to me.
• 1:05:36
  What what is associated to me is that your whole mindset and your
• 1:05:40
  whole body mean that you're shameful, you're shame of
• 1:05:42
  something happening to you. When you cover the body up, when
• 1:05:45
  it, when it's when I learned the martial arts, when you cover it,
• 1:05:48
  it shows that your abundantly of your your your confidence is not
• 1:05:52
  good When you cross your hands mean you don't really care When
• 1:05:55
  I teach people when I was learning Mai Tai Chi.
• 1:05:57
  Back in the the. Keto my sensei had always tell
• 1:06:00
  me when you do this right here and you greet your, your your,
• 1:06:03
  your opponent, you never take the eyes of your opponent.
• 1:06:05
  He's always bow. Most people come down and do
• 1:06:08
  this right here and you so you bow.
• 1:06:11
  It's like a deer. People say, why did the horses
• 1:06:13
  have this right here? They have to concentrate and
• 1:06:15
  they're running for they can't see what's next to them.
• 1:06:17
  They're probably the horses. So when you put them triscoat on
• 1:06:20
  you're you're blinding everybody to the point that I'm selfish.
• 1:06:24
  I'm tired of it. I'm a cover up and no one can
• 1:06:26
  see me. It's in their mindset that no
• 1:06:28
  one's going to see me pull this 12 gauge shotgun out and the
• 1:06:32
  kids are coming to school doing it.
• 1:06:33
  The Columbine prime example, those doors just walked around
• 1:06:36
  for weeks. That's how I want it.
• 1:06:38
  That's that's how I saw it, because I think this is a.
• 1:06:40
  Copycat World. People are seeing it and they
• 1:06:43
  are doing it. How can I pull it off?
• 1:06:44
  Even even attack that embedded aim attack that that I survived.
• 1:06:48
  You know, six years later, a major in the Army did it at Fort
• 1:06:51
  Hood, Texas. Yeah, I've been with that.
• 1:06:53
  There's some years after that. A kid.
• 1:06:55
  In 2020. One, this kid joined the
• 1:06:57
  military to learn to just to learn the trade.
• 1:07:00
  He was, he was working with ISIS and giving them military plans
• 1:07:06
  to attack our troops when they were deployed, giving our
• 1:07:11
  fighting taxes to do that. And he wanted.
• 1:07:12
  To deploy SO. He could help them kill fellow
• 1:07:16
  soldiers. It is a copycat world.
• 1:07:18
  So they saw this guy do it in 2003 and like, well, I can do it
• 1:07:22
  too because it ain't nothing change.
• 1:07:23
  But when I was writing a book, I said, if they don't tell you
• 1:07:27
  nothing, keep doing what you're doing, keep getting what I want
• 1:07:30
  to try as well for the City Council I want to make.
• 1:07:32
  It put a city manager in LA and let the voters know you can vote
• 1:07:36
  on it or get some private funds to teach the school that the
• 1:07:40
  principal teaches teachers proper way of training certain
• 1:07:43
  drills. We you can vote, the voters can
• 1:07:45
  vote that measurement to put money inside.
• 1:07:47
  If it's if it's a dollar inside gasoline tax for school safety,
• 1:07:51
  then we need to do the next election and stop playing games.
• 1:07:54
  You want to put another another $0.25 on gas tax?
• 1:07:57
  How about 2510 on some security tax, you know, for secure our
• 1:08:01
  schools. So that's why I look at it.
• 1:08:02
  That's why I want to I'm going to put measurements I want to
• 1:08:04
  have. I start running the City Council
• 1:08:06
  that's meant for my main job is the security.
• 1:08:09
  I'm going to call you * major. It's Mr. Womack that the the
• 1:08:16
  the. Conversation we're having is
• 1:08:17
  like you said, that. This like the end result, it's
• 1:08:19
  like the after the fact, right? And you want to implement these
• 1:08:22
  conversation beforehand and again as as I open up the
• 1:08:27
  conversation the the. Heart of people, the heart of
• 1:08:33
  the man. The identity crisis like we just
• 1:08:36
  why why do parents not think that children don't deal with
• 1:08:42
  these identity. Crisis, I mean.
• 1:08:45
  To me, that's what I'm looking at.
• 1:08:46
  At this end of the day, human beings, we want to belong and if
• 1:08:50
  we don't have some type of identity, even if it's sports or
• 1:08:54
  whatever, I'm susceptible to political parties to find that
• 1:08:59
  connectedness, especially if I don't feel like I'm connected to
• 1:09:01
  my family. Like there's a lot of stuff that
• 1:09:04
  leads up to even this part of the conversation that to me.
• 1:09:08
  It's just still. Missed.
• 1:09:10
  It's still not there. I mean, you know, parenting is a
• 1:09:13
  tough job. You.
• 1:09:14
  Know it's more. Than just having the kids, it's
• 1:09:17
  especially, I mean, the parents have to keep up to date with
• 1:09:19
  what's happening in society, what could be happening at
• 1:09:22
  school. I mean, watching the news and
• 1:09:23
  see what's happening. Something that's happened in
• 1:09:25
  Iowa can happen in, in California, You know, just just
• 1:09:28
  a matter of time. And, and, and with this thing
• 1:09:31
  right here, the 13 year old student is finding out about it
• 1:09:34
  for you to come home from work because they're already seeing
• 1:09:36
  the thing to happen in Iowa and they, they decide where they're
• 1:09:39
  going to follow it, whatever take toward it, share with
• 1:09:43
  somebody else. You can see that.
• 1:09:44
  And they, they are much smarter now and where they can outsmart
• 1:09:47
  the parent and parent and parents don't have their
• 1:09:50
  household in in some form of order.
• 1:09:56
  And that, that's what makes it hard.
• 1:09:57
  In addition to, like I said, that whole proximity illusion
• 1:10:00
  that the closer you are to it, the more you don't think it is
• 1:10:02
  going to happen just right there in front of you.
• 1:10:04
  But I mean, I couldn't fathom that.
• 1:10:07
  You hear that too. The the parent who thought they
• 1:10:10
  knew in the end was their interview.
• 1:10:12
  I never would have thought that's their proximity move.
• 1:10:18
  Well, I'm in the. Process now with my team
• 1:10:20
  developing the Actors Student school app that's going to be
• 1:10:24
  implemented when when we a kids alert can see some of the people
• 1:10:27
  who can see that going to happen can alert there's a possible
• 1:10:31
  school threat in the school alert not the kids be just
• 1:10:35
  pulling just be pushing it. You'll go straight to operators
• 1:10:37
  and look we have a possible kid is pretty hostile.
• 1:10:40
  We walk around there acting kind of weird and you and you alert
• 1:10:43
  the the the principal's office. They let the whole world go on,
• 1:10:46
  school, go on panic reach the school or no, because school
• 1:10:49
  police are just a waste of time. Why, they even got uniforms on.
• 1:10:53
  I see them at a donut shop during the school hours.
• 1:10:56
  Don't you put me on the school property the whole time while
• 1:10:57
  school's in. I've been seeing them everywhere
• 1:10:59
  in LA, boy, don't you? And then that LAPD took over
• 1:11:02
  them, so they had to be on campus now and they put them in
• 1:11:05
  plain clothes now. Now putting you need to put them
• 1:11:07
  in plain clothes. They need to be like janitors.
• 1:11:09
  Well, you should be doing them every day.
• 1:11:11
  Remember we had proctors in high school.
• 1:11:12
  That's where they should be at in plain clothes proctors when
• 1:11:16
  they should be. They blend in.
• 1:11:17
  You'll never know when I'm talking to schools, you know.
• 1:11:21
  Because sometimes it may they want to try to protect the
• 1:11:24
  student. They, the students shouldn't
• 1:11:25
  hear this. I think the student should hear
• 1:11:27
  at every level because there's nothing I'm talking about that.
• 1:11:31
  They don't know. And I'm providing proactive
• 1:11:34
  strategies to mitigate it. And those aren't scary.
• 1:11:37
  It's just situation awareness that they don't know anything
• 1:11:39
  about, you know, but they think that they're protecting the
• 1:11:42
  student from OK, well, let's talk to this, the, the faculty
• 1:11:44
  and staff there because you don't know either.
• 1:11:47
  You're not, you're not doing it either.
• 1:11:48
  So let's talk to you. And then you, you'll filter it
• 1:11:51
  down. But they, they don't, they, they
• 1:11:54
  don't get it as well. But I think for a school who the
• 1:11:59
  the start again, the better you, the more you know your student,
• 1:12:04
  which is the know your neighbor part, the more you're going to,
• 1:12:08
  the more you're going to find out.
• 1:12:09
  So if I'm a principal, I'm trying to get the best
• 1:12:14
  communicators of my faculty and staff.
• 1:12:17
  You know, like you went to school when you went when we
• 1:12:19
  went to school, Mr. so and so, Miss so and so now I can go tell
• 1:12:23
  her anything. Man, we was cool when they were
• 1:12:25
  the football culture, whatever they were.
• 1:12:27
  There was always 1 teacher, if not a few that you can just go
• 1:12:31
  talk to, right? That's who they need to use.
• 1:12:35
  Let Mr. or Mr. so and so befriend as many students as
• 1:12:38
  possible, because when this thing is going to go down over
• 1:12:41
  here, like like you talked about Mr. Evans and some that that
• 1:12:44
  happened in some of the schools or whatever, the people won't
• 1:12:47
  care. But something happened.
• 1:12:48
  Well, that's already planned. It's not, it's not, it's not a
• 1:12:53
  hasty thing that happened. It's already playing and
• 1:12:56
  students know some of them just want to be onlookers.
• 1:12:59
  They want to film it or whatever the case may be.
• 1:13:01
  So they know one of them can go tell Mister so and so who's
• 1:13:05
  befriends all the students. Hey, this is going down, but I
• 1:13:08
  just want you to know about you. Don't tell anybody I told you.
• 1:13:11
  They have to have that person that that's a start on the
• 1:13:14
  inside right there because they can make it.
• 1:13:16
  They're not going to the resource officer.
• 1:13:18
  They ain't going there in, in fact, when the shooting is
• 1:13:21
  going. Down these kids the. 14151617
• 1:13:25
  year olds, they're so smart and they're attacked they're taking
• 1:13:28
  out the resource officer first. That's the only threat.
• 1:13:30
  Let's get that one first. Now I'm going to do whatever I
• 1:13:32
  want to that's happening, but I I would love to let.
• 1:13:37
  Go you off the air and put something together for workplace
• 1:13:40
  and school. I have a lot of connections,
• 1:13:42
  principals and stuff. I would love to do that with
• 1:13:44
  you. I can get us in the schools.
• 1:13:47
  OK, let me, let me bring. To the deck.
• 1:13:51
  Oh. Oh.
• 1:13:54
  Oh, the legend. The one the only the legend.
• 1:13:58
  Frozen. Yeah, Ronnie, you got a good.
• 1:14:01
  Signal over there, man, Riley, he got he got the name.
• 1:14:03
  I should I? Should I?
• 1:14:04
  Had a signal? Wait a minute.
• 1:14:06
  What in the world? Let me see.
• 1:14:07
  Give me. Give me double jacks.
• 1:14:08
  Give me double Jack. I was wondering why that?
• 1:14:13
  That image looked the same. It didn't.
• 1:14:14
  I'm like, is he looking? In the screen down there, he
• 1:14:16
  froze down there. That's why he looked, you know,
• 1:14:18
  the movie froze, he froze it, froze it.
• 1:14:21
  But a jumper jacket? Is saying come on.
• 1:14:22
  That yeah, legendary. You know what I mean?
• 1:14:25
  But yeah, we, we, I would love to do that, man.
• 1:14:27
  Definitely. We have an icon legend, man,
• 1:14:29
  over the couple of ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:14:31
  Legend we got. We got Mr. Mr. Bill Montgomery.
• 1:14:35
  Over here in the What's happening, Bill?
• 1:14:38
  Hey man, I'm just, I'm just. Happy to be on.
• 1:14:40
  With you, With you brothers man. I'm going to listen in salute
• 1:14:43
  you, Mr. Hidden Figures. Powerful man, Lord.
• 1:14:46
  On yeah, man. I mean, I hear you.
• 1:14:49
  Guys talk about some. Schools, man you.
• 1:14:50
  Know that? That's my sweet spot.
• 1:14:52
  Yeah. Sweet spot.
• 1:14:54
  Sweet spot. Sweet spot.
• 1:14:57
  The sweet spot is not that sweet.
• 1:15:00
  It's an after the fact discussion, man.
• 1:15:02
  We're trying to keep people safe.
• 1:15:08
  Sometimes it works. Right, but everybody has to be
• 1:15:12
  involved. So the year 2018 a 14 year old
• 1:15:16
  student had posted on Julian Edelman's account, his his
• 1:15:22
  Instagram account right. You know who Julian elements
• 1:15:25
  also on this account that he was going to shoot up.
• 1:15:29
  He said watch the news because I'm going to shoot up the
• 1:15:32
  school. Oh wow, I remember that.
• 1:15:34
  I remember that didn't. See it but someone saw it.
• 1:15:39
  And it told him then he told his assistant he went in Boston that
• 1:15:44
  time, told his assistant who was in Boston.
• 1:15:46
  She told the Austin police who contacted the Ford Huron police
• 1:15:50
  in Michigan and they were able to foil the attack.
• 1:15:54
  You know, so, so it works. But when it started with someone
• 1:15:56
  being in situation aware to see where this kid had posted that
• 1:15:59
  thing, said he's going to do that, right?
• 1:16:01
  And then there's another one. There's an exchange student.
• 1:16:06
  He told his friend that hey, don't come to school on, you
• 1:16:09
  know, a certain date because I'm going to shoot up the school.
• 1:16:15
  And had the courage to be a. Hero and go report it so that
• 1:16:19
  attack was foiled. So you think about this, the
• 1:16:21
  exchange student so you had to come over here for someplace
• 1:16:23
  else has a guarded close to it. You get the what you get that
• 1:16:29
  proximity illusion where they don't know what's going on.
• 1:16:31
  This kid had bought various parts online to put a gun
• 1:16:36
  together. See that don't happen in Los
• 1:16:39
  Angeles? That's a beat down.
• 1:16:40
  LA you tell your your fellow friend I'm.
• 1:16:44
  Going to shoot up lock. High school on modern day or
• 1:16:47
  Dorsey, you get me down. I love you brother, I put you.
• 1:16:53
  Behind what happened to do so? I know what happened LA at all.
• 1:16:56
  No, it ain't what happened. We don't pay that up here.
• 1:16:59
  It's a whole new ball game. Yeah, all the other places, man.
• 1:17:03
  I exchange ass with exchange students.
• 1:17:06
  Exchange yourself back to your country.
• 1:17:10
  Exchange your hands. What you want to do?
• 1:17:12
  It's crazy. Man, the world, it's the
• 1:17:15
  parents. The parents ain't paying
• 1:17:16
  attention to their kids. Yeah, man, That's that's that's
• 1:17:20
  that's why. You know, that's why at least
• 1:17:22
  the ability to go into these, you know, elementary and middle
• 1:17:25
  schools at at that level. Bill has the power to do that,
• 1:17:29
  but I do have the power to do that.
• 1:17:31
  Because people listen to people who have who have initiatives go
• 1:17:34
  in and tell these kids, hey, have a National Safety day.
• 1:17:37
  We'll never have it for school. We have this, we have a apple
• 1:17:40
  pie day and a famous hot dog, geez, burger days and French fry
• 1:17:44
  day. And it's.
• 1:17:45
  Crazy The National Hot Dog Day. Really the head with your kid
• 1:17:50
  get shot at school on Thursday eat that hot dog, but you have
• 1:17:53
  national hot dog day. It's, I mean we, we, we pick our
• 1:17:56
  like you say, like you say, we don't, we don't.
• 1:17:59
  Pay attention until it's at. Your front door and then now
• 1:18:02
  it's going to happen. They're going to start talking
• 1:18:04
  about like what we should. Have done how did we miss the
• 1:18:07
  signs and but well you never pay attention all alone that's how
• 1:18:11
  so far removed from it you ain't never going.
• 1:18:14
  To. Going to solve it, man.
• 1:18:15
  You didn't do anything. So I'll I'll love to Mr. Mr.
• 1:18:19
  Woman, get with you. And put some big thing together.
• 1:18:21
  I have a couple connects to the mayor's office, somebody sending
• 1:18:24
  counsel people I can talk to the Holly Mitchells and about in
• 1:18:28
  different districts. Yes hey, we do a safety day for
• 1:18:30
  women for kids teaching kids how to defend themselves when it
• 1:18:34
  comes back to attackers. So yeah, I love to that and and
• 1:18:37
  and that and that and that listening skill we like I said.
• 1:18:40
  We say we listen, we say we pay attention, but a lot of it is
• 1:18:43
  reactive. A lot of it is is not.
• 1:18:45
  We don't, I don't pertain to me, so I'm not paying attention.
• 1:18:48
  I don't care about all this. Exactly.
• 1:18:50
  It does. You do, though.
• 1:18:52
  It does. So you just, you got to pay
• 1:18:56
  attention. You got to get off this thing
• 1:18:58
  for for a minute and pay attention that that's that's
• 1:19:02
  that's a huge distraction. I call the future.
• 1:19:04
  I call the future ex-wife. You're back, right.
• 1:19:07
  You're back to right. You, you back, you back.
• 1:19:09
  Knee. Bad knee.
• 1:19:10
  Allen. Really, man.
• 1:19:11
  Good. Wow.
• 1:19:13
  Yes, Sir, Bill's, Bill's saying. What's going on guys?
• 1:19:18
  Bill's saying legend, What's up man?
• 1:19:20
  I've been telling you about. The last few days I said Roddy
• 1:19:23
  could be on the street. Hey, I'm glad.
• 1:19:24
  Oh my God, we had a little technical difficulties there.
• 1:19:29
  Logging in so many people crashes.
• 1:19:32
  He's crashing the Internet for Ron and my man Drake.
• 1:19:36
  It's all y'all fault. There we go man.
• 1:19:41
  Ladies and gentlemen. It's all good.
• 1:19:42
  The man. The man. 1970s if y'all.
• 1:19:45
  Was around the 70s. And didn't know what a burger
• 1:19:47
  was until Rodney came along and said.
• 1:19:52
  It's too. Big for my mouth, everybody,
• 1:19:53
  Black said. We going to try anyway.
• 1:19:56
  My mother bought like 15. That's right, she.
• 1:20:01
  Came home and said she was on a commercial last.
• 1:20:03
  Night when y'all were in. The bed, I told.
• 1:20:06
  That we were we going to eat, she said.
• 1:20:08
  What do you want, jack-in-the-box?
• 1:20:09
  We're going to tell you. Yeah.
• 1:20:11
  Two team jump jacks. After that day, it was hooked on
• 1:20:14
  every Friday with Jumber Jack night every Friday.
• 1:20:17
  I found a house for over 10 years, man.
• 1:20:18
  I saw the name and before his picture.
• 1:20:22
  Now I'm thinking. That's what I wanted right
• 1:20:34
  there. That's what we.
• 1:20:51
  Brother, listen, I've been knowing I've been knowing for
• 1:20:53
  Ron for a while, been knowing Dre for a while.
• 1:20:56
  Bill, man, these are these are class act people because they
• 1:21:00
  care about the community. They care about a positive
• 1:21:04
  message. They care about helping the
• 1:21:05
  youth. I like being around good people
• 1:21:08
  and like you, brother. It's a pleasure meeting you too,
• 1:21:11
  man, because we we're very this time that we're in more than
• 1:21:16
  ever, we need to keep the youth motivated.
• 1:21:19
  We need to show them opportunities.
• 1:21:22
  That's why, you know, Trey's doing what he's doing Mr. Adams
• 1:21:25
  and and going to be making his mark in local politics and doing
• 1:21:29
  his thing for Ron. He's been doing such great
• 1:21:32
  things, you know, telling his story and and being able to
• 1:21:36
  really help shine a light on sickle cell and so many
• 1:21:39
  different other things. And I'm, I'm just fortunate
• 1:21:43
  enough to be able to be in the collection of good people.
• 1:21:47
  And my career, yes, I started out 1972 and worked with all the
• 1:21:54
  greats from Sammy Davis junior to George Burns to Mel Brooks to
• 1:21:59
  I can go on and on and on. And but now is the time that
• 1:22:03
  we're building. And so, you know, between being
• 1:22:07
  with Bill and the hidden pioneers and work with Bill and
• 1:22:10
  you know, Bill's, you know, Bill and I are developing ATV show
• 1:22:15
  called hidden garages with young people.
• 1:22:17
  And you know, it's just a, a real cool time for us to be all
• 1:22:22
  working together and making our mark in broadcast, in business
• 1:22:28
  and politics and and, and definitely through education.
• 1:22:33
  Yes, yes. Now one thing.
• 1:22:35
  I want to say I'm sure everybody feel the same way after.
• 1:22:39
  People that are listening right now.
• 1:22:41
  Rodney is inspiration for us black Americans because for a
• 1:22:45
  brother like him, for like him being in seven and all these
• 1:22:49
  years of Hollywood, never heard of Rodney going to jail, never
• 1:22:53
  seen no mug shots. And that's a that's a that's I
• 1:22:56
  mean, how many you people you know in the industry right now
• 1:22:58
  and and get a mug shot in Hollywood almost every other
• 1:23:01
  day. Robert Downey Junior, he broke
• 1:23:03
  the record and he was he was they would let him they would
• 1:23:06
  let him out of jail to do movies and stuff they had never been
• 1:23:09
  done. Let a brother go to jail.
• 1:23:11
  You wouldn't get no vin rings, but get out of jail.
• 1:23:12
  You do No, no part in the movie. You going to stay right.
• 1:23:16
  But but but but hey. Yeah, well, see, that's honestly
• 1:23:21
  I didn't want to. Dre brother, I didn't want to
• 1:23:24
  test the system, I didn't want to and so I had because it
• 1:23:30
  apparently for us it don't work the same.
• 1:23:32
  So I decided not to try that at all.
• 1:23:35
  And being and. And me, you know, growing up in
• 1:23:40
  Long Beach. I grew up with a family who you
• 1:23:43
  know, I saw my dad, he was a hard working man and my mom, she
• 1:23:47
  always took care of everything and just to be able to be a part
• 1:23:50
  of it. And once my career started, you
• 1:23:53
  know, my brother and sister, my sister Beverly Lee and my
• 1:23:57
  brother Kenneth Wayne, we all were signed up.
• 1:24:00
  It wasn't like I was some golden child.
• 1:24:01
  My, my sister actually was the first one in our family to land
• 1:24:05
  a commercial and she landed a commercial.
• 1:24:09
  And then my brother, he went out for the audition for the famous
• 1:24:13
  Coca-Cola commercial. Remember, I like to teach the
• 1:24:16
  world to sing in perfect Harmon. So my brother, he auditioned and
• 1:24:21
  went out and was a part of that. And then I was the baby of the
• 1:24:24
  family. I got the call for
• 1:24:26
  jack-in-the-box and was just blessed and fortunate to land a
• 1:24:31
  career or, or an actually an, an audition with jack-in-the-box.
• 1:24:36
  And at the time, what a lot of people didn't know back in 1972,
• 1:24:40
  jack-in-the-box was in foreclosure.
• 1:24:42
  They were all the way on the East Coast and they were losing
• 1:24:47
  the company and they got all the way to Texas.
• 1:24:50
  And that's when they made a corporate decision to say if we
• 1:24:53
  let this go any further, we're losing this company.
• 1:24:57
  So when they were just a West Coast operation from Texas to
• 1:25:00
  California, that's when they decided to do this last ditch
• 1:25:05
  effort to have this campaign, this jack-in-the-box commercial.
• 1:25:09
  They just wanted a boy, a girl, white, black, they didn't care.
• 1:25:13
  They just called 100 kids in and they were hoping for the best.
• 1:25:17
  And I landed the commercial and so.
• 1:25:22
  And that's what. Pulled them out of.
• 1:25:24
  Pull them out of. Bankruptcy and so, you know, 50
• 1:25:27
  years later, the company still in they, they've got a, they got
• 1:25:31
  a little bit of hiccup going right now, but you never know.
• 1:25:34
  That creates an opportunity for me to to re emerge again with
• 1:25:38
  them and do some work already ready.
• 1:25:50
  To Go and Mr. Womack, you know I am.
• 1:25:53
  You hate, you know me. I.
• 1:25:54
  Call about online on the air all the time I'm going to call you
• 1:25:57
  out again all you corporates at jack-in-the-box.
• 1:26:00
  Y'all know for a fact the reason why people eating eating the
• 1:26:03
  jumbo Jack is cousin's brother over here to the you're thinking
• 1:26:07
  about. Hey now in in in the industry.
• 1:26:12
  It's like they they're taking a few chances on new things, but
• 1:26:15
  they're going back and doing sequel or prequel or recoil They
• 1:26:19
  they got so many cools going on. We don't know what they are
• 1:26:21
  exactly exactly. Oh yeah, the.
• 1:26:24
  Audience right, but I just. Think about that.
• 1:26:26
  You think about that Mister Ribby of of 72 and now a world
• 1:26:31
  was then commercial then and then, oh man, that's a that's a
• 1:26:35
  classic beginning all over again.
• 1:26:47
  Hey you. Know what?
• 1:26:48
  It's a no brainer. It's a.
• 1:26:50
  Marketing no brainer because our generation now have kids and
• 1:26:56
  families and and if they say you know, I remember back in the day
• 1:27:00
  when I was a young man and like you Dre and and eating a jumbo
• 1:27:04
  Jack and now shoot, you know, you you still get to take a pit
• 1:27:08
  stop by and grab one and and you know that's what it's all about.
• 1:27:12
  Yeah, what you ever do? I'm going to feel myself.
• 1:27:14
  I'm going to go up and say, hey, it's 2.
• 1:27:15
  Bits for my mom. How do you been telling me,
• 1:27:18
  Jumbo Jack? That's right.
• 1:27:35
  That's right and that man. Should be ashamed to sell a
• 1:27:37
  little box. Head Man with the little jacket
• 1:27:38
  box of his head. Hide his face, be afraid to get
• 1:27:41
  you get a check, that's what it is.
• 1:27:43
  But you put Snoop Dogg in the munchie meal and and you give
• 1:27:48
  Ice Cube his own. And Ice.
• 1:27:50
  Cube would say. What did they?
• 1:27:51
  Say, wait, when Snoop saw you, tell me what Snoop told you he
• 1:27:54
  saw you for the first time. I I actually I bumped in the
• 1:27:58
  Snoop. And I was at the the night that
• 1:28:02
  actually was really funny. My homeboy is Flavor Flav from
• 1:28:04
  Public Enemy. And so that was the night that
• 1:28:07
  they roasted Flavor Flav on MTV And, and what happened was Snoop
• 1:28:16
  was there as part of the people that was roasting Flav.
• 1:28:19
  And I'm tell they said some of the most horrendous stuff.
• 1:28:22
  The Flav I just ran. I just it was, it was so rough
• 1:28:26
  that it was funny. And I was just like, Oh my God.
• 1:28:29
  But you have, you know, if you going to be roasted, you got you
• 1:28:32
  open yourself up for that. But we were all backstage.
• 1:28:35
  And so I saw Snoop. I never met him.
• 1:28:37
  You know, he's from Long Beach. I'm from Long Beach.
• 1:28:39
  He was on the east side. I was on the West side.
• 1:28:42
  And I said, man, I want to meet Snoop.
• 1:28:43
  So we're backstage and I just talk him to him.
• 1:28:46
  And I, I tapped him on the shoulder and he turned around.
• 1:28:49
  I said, hey, man. I said, I just want to say hello
• 1:28:51
  to you. And he's like, yeah, man.
• 1:28:52
  I said, hey, I'm Long Beach, man.
• 1:28:55
  Rodney Allen Rippy. He said, what?
• 1:28:57
  Rodney Allen Rippy? And he freaked out.
• 1:28:59
  He was like, man, everybody's Rodney Allen.
• 1:29:04
  Rippy. I was like I was.
• 1:29:05
  Like, I couldn't believe he freaked out like that.
• 1:29:07
  I mean, he really did. I was like, and I was like,
• 1:29:13
  yeah, man, it it. Was really cool and I'm I'm.
• 1:29:15
  Happy to see. Him with all his success and all
• 1:29:18
  the things that he's done and the Olympics and so many other
• 1:29:21
  things and it it's just when you see that type of push and that
• 1:29:27
  type of reach within the masses, not just in California,
• 1:29:32
  globally, he's a he, he's an influencer.
• 1:29:36
  And so you know, what do you expect?
• 1:29:38
  So that's how the big, the big offers come in.
• 1:29:41
  That's how a lot of stuff happens.
• 1:29:43
  So I'm looking at between working with Bill and for Ron
• 1:29:47
  and you, Dre and, and Mr. Womack.
• 1:29:50
  I mean, I, I want to be able to use what I have as an act as a,
• 1:29:57
  you know, as an access to the city of Los Angeles, the
• 1:30:01
  education, the youth, not only just here, but across the
• 1:30:04
  country. And I mean, we've got everything
• 1:30:08
  from technology. I'm part of a group called
• 1:30:11
  Matrix Capital. And Matrix Capital is a great
• 1:30:15
  group of leaders. I mean, we've got generals that
• 1:30:19
  are part of Matrix Capital. We have the president of the
• 1:30:23
  West Point Society. I mean, we have so many
• 1:30:27
  different people who have built industries in communities.
• 1:30:31
  There are grant writers that are part of Matrix Capital who've
• 1:30:35
  closed $1,000,000 deals and they're doing, they're doing a
• 1:30:38
  big development in Las Vegas now they're down in north, you know,
• 1:30:43
  North Las Vegas, like downtown and they're building a, a STEM
• 1:30:48
  center down there. These are the type of things
• 1:30:50
  that our community need and should know about.
• 1:30:54
  And you know, I'm happy to just to be a part of good things in
• 1:30:59
  in the community. Yeah, I found about now I know
• 1:31:02
  for a fact you work for LA Vets. What are you doing with LA Vets
• 1:31:05
  for them? Then we talked a couple of
• 1:31:06
  times. Yeah, LA vets, you know.
• 1:31:10
  They are, that's US Vets. US Vets, you know, that's a
• 1:31:14
  major, major veterans organization.
• 1:31:17
  They help veterans who have went through a tough transition.
• 1:31:21
  Some of them need a place and US Vets is directly connect to the
• 1:31:25
  VA so they make sure that they get housing and health and
• 1:31:30
  mental health services. And so that's what I'm wanting
• 1:31:35
  to do. I'm I'm in the process of
• 1:31:37
  starting the Rippy Foundation. I'm going to work with at risk
• 1:31:40
  youth, senior citizens and veterans.
• 1:31:42
  There shouldn't be one homeless veteran anywhere on any St. in
• 1:31:46
  America. Thank you.
• 1:31:48
  Let alone let alone Los Angeles. That's right.
• 1:31:53
  And they have given their all, believe it or not.
• 1:31:56
  I actually knew a veteran and it was sad because he was trying to
• 1:32:01
  get VA services and the line and the the the medical care was
• 1:32:05
  kind of sketchy. And he actually died waiting on
• 1:32:10
  services. And I'm hoping that, you know,
• 1:32:12
  that these. Yeah.
• 1:32:14
  So you, you know. We right and these.
• 1:32:18
  Are the type of things that should not happen so hopefully
• 1:32:22
  you know better times will come for our veterans and better
• 1:32:26
  opportunities repurposing them getting them trained you know
• 1:32:31
  and and they should be the first in line for a home you know with
• 1:32:36
  all the available real estate. Our veterans should be better,
• 1:32:39
  you know, better taken care of. OK, I always say that the.
• 1:32:44
  In my experience. Even I didn't go to the VA until
• 1:32:48
  seven years after I got a military just just because of
• 1:32:51
  the myth. And then I finally said I'm
• 1:32:53
  going to and I'm going to either confirm or deny the myth.
• 1:32:57
  And I confirm the myth. Like I've made an appointment
• 1:33:02
  and I had to wait three months for it or four months.
• 1:33:05
  And then then they called and they cancelled.
• 1:33:09
  I made another one and on the day of my appointment I'm
• 1:33:13
  driving and I'm like 5 minutes away.
• 1:33:15
  They called and said oh, we have to cancel your appointment.
• 1:33:17
  No you're not. I'm coming right now.
• 1:33:19
  What's your name? I'll come.
• 1:33:22
  Here and talk to you then like. They get the well what happened?
• 1:33:25
  They called an emergency meeting last night, but I said well you
• 1:33:28
  got my number, why don't you call and tell me why?
• 1:33:29
  Why do you have to wait till 10:30 in the morning as I'm
• 1:33:31
  driving here to do that right? The reason I got to be in the
• 1:33:34
  1st place just confirm or did not admit and it's not a myth.
• 1:33:37
  Y'all got I didn't use profane. I refrained.
• 1:33:41
  I didn't turn. Sorry.
• 1:33:42
  I made it from I said this is about me in terms of my
• 1:33:50
  appointment. I said the way you guys treat
• 1:33:54
  people, it ain't it ain't going to affect me right now, but you
• 1:33:58
  know it's going to affect that person.
• 1:34:00
  That's 7075, whatever the age are, they don't have they don't
• 1:34:05
  have the vigor to put up with this to fight you.
• 1:34:08
  So they'll just going to go home and die, Uncle 74?
• 1:34:14
  And that's going to be on you, but you're not going to know
• 1:34:16
  because you your. Appointment, they didn't even
• 1:34:19
  get here after that. Hurry up, we got me in.
• 1:34:22
  That was my first. That was my intake that just do
• 1:34:24
  the blood work and all. That's all it was.
• 1:34:29
  Because they say. All the doctors are in the
• 1:34:31
  meeting upstairs would take me up there.
• 1:34:33
  This is a great time to tell them what the heck they're
• 1:34:35
  doing. We're going to change the focus
• 1:34:37
  of the meeting right now. Right now, we lost Bill.
• 1:34:41
  Bill, how to pick? Someone.
• 1:34:46
  Has to fight for him you got. Someone has to fight for him.
• 1:34:49
  Yeah, that's right. I want to piggyback what Rodney
• 1:34:52
  was saying about your US, Vance. Bill, I know you and Rodney work
• 1:34:55
  simultaneously on a lot of things, so tell me about who you
• 1:34:57
  are. Mr. Bill.
• 1:34:59
  Yeah, so I'm CSI. Bill stands for Common Sense.
• 1:35:02
  Intelligence at the high school students gave me that nickname
• 1:35:05
  because I've come from military family.
• 1:35:09
  My dad was in Marines for 22 years and and he's always
• 1:35:12
  besides spank that butt. He was a use your common sense
• 1:35:14
  boy. So I grew up saying use your
• 1:35:18
  common. Sense use your common.
• 1:35:19
  Sense and I did I started teaching in high schools and I
• 1:35:24
  said the same thing and the kids got to get said Mr. Montgomery,
• 1:35:26
  you always tell my common sense we're going to make a nickname
• 1:35:30
  CSI Bill. And I was like, OK, so I've been
• 1:35:33
  that since eight years ago. How's how's you meet Rodney?
• 1:35:37
  Oh man, I met I. Met Ronnie.
• 1:35:39
  I meant what? I mean, Rodney at man.
• 1:35:41
  It's been jack-in-the-box, jack-in-the-box.
• 1:35:45
  Like all of us, what you talking about are.
• 1:35:47
  You going to go back to 1972? I was two years old.
• 1:35:53
  Yeah, there you go. From a guy named Al Ramirez.
• 1:35:56
  Radio. Guy and he talked about Rodney's
• 1:36:01
  man you got, you know, you got to meet this guy and and I met
• 1:36:05
  Rodney and ever since we connected up we got some the
• 1:36:08
  same views and yeah man we we we started connecting up and then I
• 1:36:13
  think for Ron came maybe a little bit later same thing man.
• 1:36:17
  So I met for Ron, you know, quickly for Ron went to the
• 1:36:21
  schools man and and just dynamic man.
• 1:36:23
  So, you know, we're we're on the same page.
• 1:36:26
  Of course, I was 18 years old. I was jumping.
• 1:36:28
  On the airplanes. So I went into the 82nd Airborne
• 1:36:32
  down in North Carolina, had a had a great time in and, and
• 1:36:37
  actually I was going to do, I was going to do 20 years.
• 1:36:40
  But it it. It started getting soft, you
• 1:36:43
  know, even back then. So I was like, man, I, they,
• 1:36:44
  they, I got to get out of here, man.
• 1:36:46
  Yeah, even back then. So now it's really, really soft.
• 1:36:50
  Oh my God, they can't recruit. Every recruiting levels are
• 1:36:52
  lowest ever. We can't see your face, Bill.
• 1:36:54
  We need to see your face. Roku TV.
• 1:37:18
  I'm glad you guys said. It obviously you can see the
• 1:37:20
  NASA shirt because. There you go with with NASA.
• 1:37:24
  And. Yeah, man, I'm just.
• 1:37:26
  I'm happy to be able to give the information on this platform and
• 1:37:30
  thank you guys so much because media exposure that that's
• 1:37:35
  everything these days. So thank you guys for having me
• 1:37:38
  on and I'm I'm just going to kick it back to you guys, man.
• 1:37:39
  I'm just happy to be here. I got.
• 1:37:42
  I got a question also if. You if you want to know.
• 1:37:45
  If you want to know more about Bill, just go to Hidden Pioneers
• 1:37:49
  dot com. That's hidden, HIDDEN
• 1:37:53
  pioneers.com. We're really excited because
• 1:37:55
  Bill is connected to some great people.
• 1:37:58
  There's a lady named Emmeline King.
• 1:38:01
  Emmeline, She is the first African American female hired by
• 1:38:05
  the Ford Motor Company in the design division.
• 1:38:08
  So she was recently at a big event that we had out here.
• 1:38:12
  The lady plays a mean saxophone. She's an artist and she's got a
• 1:38:16
  big heart. She cares about the kids and
• 1:38:19
  Bill every, what is it? Every Monday night, Bill has a,
• 1:38:24
  a, a stream that he does. And we go live and we just kind
• 1:38:28
  of work together with people who come in to talk about solutions.
• 1:38:33
  Not just talk, but we're looking for solutions for the community
• 1:38:37
  through STEM education and STEAM that science, technology,
• 1:38:42
  engineering, the arts and math. And Bill is kind of bringing
• 1:38:46
  back, you know, the shop classes and the lab classes for the
• 1:38:50
  young people. And that's what that's what the
• 1:38:52
  Hidden Pioneer is all about. And that's my measure, too.
• 1:38:54
  I'm running for city councilors and bring it back me and.
• 1:38:56
  Riley talking about that karate's my campaign manager and
• 1:38:59
  that's what's going to happen to the point that we know for a
• 1:39:02
  fact it's evolutionizing with these kids are to come and tech
• 1:39:06
  everything we had all in high school when they took it all out
• 1:39:09
  and the pledge allegiance. Well, what happened to your
• 1:39:11
  school? They turned to prisons.
• 1:39:12
  Their minds have got slaves in their mind.
• 1:39:15
  That's what the kids are all messed up at.
• 1:39:17
  So NASA is like they well, they're doing ads now They're
• 1:39:20
  doing the CIA doing ads. They ain't never did the CIA
• 1:39:22
  done never did we want you in the CIA.
• 1:39:24
  I'm like, what? At midnight you get an ad for
• 1:39:27
  CIA. To apply for a.
• 1:39:28
  Job that NASA too, now the astronauts that was stuck in
• 1:39:32
  space for 11,000 years when they came down, they said.
• 1:39:38
  They was paying them. What $5 a day?
• 1:39:40
  Did you see that? Is that true?
• 1:39:43
  They get they overtime they got that's a trillion dollars in
• 1:39:46
  space. That's a trillion dollars,
• 1:39:48
  though. OK.
• 1:39:48
  I got you. There you go.
• 1:39:51
  And and and. President Trump said well.
• 1:39:52
  I paid overtime. What is it?
• 1:39:53
  What? It's $14.53 so of course you're
• 1:39:56
  going to pay overtime and $14.00 but you stay in space nine
• 1:39:58
  months with your family, all you got is $11.00 overtime.
• 1:40:02
  They didn't want to pay it nothing.
• 1:40:05
  That's crazy man. So your.
• 1:40:07
  Bill not. Not so.
• 1:40:09
  Is that how? How do they get paid?
• 1:40:12
  Well, they astronauts, they go up.
• 1:40:14
  Well, you know, it's almost like, like, like the military,
• 1:40:17
  you know, you're. You're, you're on a contract and
• 1:40:18
  you, you know, you sign up and you know, you make $0.65 an hour
• 1:40:22
  man for 24 hours man. OK, there you.
• 1:40:24
  Go. That's good money, man.
• 1:40:25
  That's good money. Yeah, yeah, so, so yeah, the.
• 1:40:28
  Number Jack back in them days 60. $0.05 Yeah, I got back in
• 1:40:31
  them day. Yeah, how do you pay?
• 1:40:35
  And how do they? Go by the overtime.
• 1:40:36
  How do they come up with $11.53 overtime?
• 1:40:40
  Well, I don't know, man. Whatever.
• 1:40:42
  Whatever that. Like I said, whatever the
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  they're part of the military. So whatever that track is, you
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  know, you know, it's like private, you know, first class,
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  you know, and you get a little bit more.
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  Yeah, I think. I think astronauts get a, you
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  know, a little bit more because of the hazard pay, but it's,
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  it's not. You would think there'd be a
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  lot, but Nope, it's. Yeah, well, I won't be fine with
• 1:41:05
  space no time soon, but you try. To think $3,000,000 to go up to
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  the upper part and then come back on you try $3,000,000 to go
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  up to the upper part. Of space to come back on.
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  That's crazy. Hey, Bill.
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  Bill, how much was? How much was jump pay?
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  Well, jump pay was was was $83 a month when?
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  I was there 82 I don't know what it.
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  It might be. 100 What? Year was that?
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  What year was that? This was a. 888383 to 80. 6 Did
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  they give you a tip? If you turn your ankle it.
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  Was 50. $5 Sorry sorry man, you said he was getting 55.
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  Dollars back in in. His.
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  Days 77 Who $5 Hey. I'm I'm trying I'm trying to get
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  service. Connected now as we speak.
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  Oh my God. My my ankle.
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  He. Turned his ankle.
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  I'm messing up, boy, I tell you. But but yeah, there's there's
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  so. Much information offline, Bill,
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  we'll talk, we'll talk about that offline.
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  OK, OK, that'd. Be great.
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  Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. There you go, but.
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  It's an honor, man to see, you know, these these these
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  stingiest gentleman here today and people understand behind all
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  this experience and this knowledge and this God-given
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  talent. You know, it's here to help
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  society what society is all about.
• 1:42:20
  It's about our kids and what are we going to do gentlemen, about
• 1:42:23
  these kids generation? Is it talking to the parents?
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  Is it what do you think is it the parents talk first we to the
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  reconciliation Malachi 4-5 and. 6 says that we can return the
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  hearts of our parents back to our children, the hearts of our
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  parents back to the children, back to their parents.
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  So hey man, it's the direction. We can get our children.
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  To, to, to, to develop and go home and share what they learn
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  from an emotional, from mental toughness standpoint that
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  parents going to come to the school and be like, what are you
• 1:42:52
  teaching my child? Because now they're talking.
• 1:42:54
  Different they ain't. Talking like they used to.
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  Now we draw that or we have the parent come in and have a
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  conversation one way or another. That's where it starts for me.
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  It starts at that family dynamic.
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  And then we can restore that heart of that child back to that
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  parent. And I and I truly honor my
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  father and mother. I'm not going to want to hurt
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  you. I'm not going to because my, I'm
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  going to think about what my mom and dad's going to say if I
• 1:43:20
  steal that candy. What if I steal that?
• 1:43:22
  What is my mom and dad going to say first?
• 1:43:25
  I'm not going to do that. But why do we have to wait till
• 1:43:27
  we get in jail or get in our 40s and 50s to discover that that's
• 1:43:31
  what life should have been about, you know, 40 years ago.
• 1:43:35
  We can make those collections today.
• 1:43:38
  Those that are willing, everybody ain't willing to do
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  that. Those that are.
• 1:43:41
  Willing to look at that conversation like a famous
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  Eddie. The.
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  Famous, Eddie Griffin said. We my black folk were so fast.
• 1:43:50
  We had to. We had to beat that street light
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  out. Hey, let me tell you, it's just,
• 1:43:57
  it's just. Passing.
• 1:43:58
  Be in the house. You're going in the house.
• 1:44:00
  Yeah, you go to the house. So brother running a. 193 So you
• 1:44:05
  know what a free life you know now they blink.
• 1:44:07
  As soon as they blinked, it was a wrap.
• 1:44:10
  Drop the bat, drop the football. Nowadays. 11 years old out
• 1:44:16
  there. Until 11:00 on school nights,
• 1:44:20
  running around shooting the gun. No, man, I have.
• 1:44:23
  I have one. 5th grader when I was when I started last year and
• 1:44:27
  we were talking about what is it to be respectful of my, of my
• 1:44:31
  family. And he said, oh, I know my, my
• 1:44:35
  mom stutters when she's lying and I'm like, what?
• 1:44:40
  Like he. Already got his?
• 1:44:41
  Mother figured out that when she stutters, she's lying.
• 1:44:46
  Now what happened? He caught what happened where he
• 1:44:49
  discovered that that stutter was connected to something she said
• 1:44:53
  that was not true. Now that's how he listened to
• 1:44:56
  his mother. When she stutters, she's lying.
• 1:44:59
  And he's 50. He was a 50 year.
• 1:45:02
  I'm going to tell you what. I, I was brought up in a little
• 1:45:05
  bit of different way. My Mama could tell me anything
• 1:45:08
  and I believed it. I'm going to tell you.
• 1:45:12
  Thank you. I, I had, I had the type of
• 1:45:14
  parents that whatever mom or daddy said, I believe it.
• 1:45:18
  I and there was no questioning if you couldn't ask why, I mean,
• 1:45:22
  because that, that that would entail the Hickory stick that if
• 1:45:26
  you started asking why that would the Hickory stick would
• 1:45:30
  come out and I, I didn't need the Hickory stick.
• 1:45:33
  So well. Well, let me tell you guys
• 1:45:35
  something in in high. School I.
• 1:45:37
  I've done the. R&D OK.
• 1:45:38
  The the couple things they say, first of all, like you said,
• 1:45:40
  soon you say something. Why?
• 1:45:42
  What? OK.
• 1:45:43
  And then they they say when they get in trouble, so they say
• 1:45:47
  nobody told me. Nobody told me.
• 1:45:50
  So those, those, those are the things that that the kids say
• 1:45:53
  now why? What?
• 1:45:54
  And nobody told me. Yeah.
• 1:45:57
  Wow. And Bill.
• 1:45:58
  Bill. Also has a great thing.
• 1:46:00
  And it's, it's called the, your, your the cell phone curriculum
• 1:46:05
  that Bill has it's, it's the pocket computer.
• 1:46:09
  And Bill is, you know, also has a curriculum that's teaching the
• 1:46:12
  young people how to, you know, confidently use a cell phone and
• 1:46:17
  not to abuse it and not to get addicted to it.
• 1:46:20
  Because so many kids, you know, parents say, hey, you know, you
• 1:46:24
  used to be able to put a kid on restriction.
• 1:46:26
  All you got to do is take the cell phone.
• 1:46:27
  They'll freak out. So, you know, the whole thing
• 1:46:31
  is. But now we know that there's a
• 1:46:33
  lot of very good uses of the cell phone and all of the access
• 1:46:38
  and, and everything. But there's a lot of, there's a
• 1:46:42
  lot of bad. Yeah, it's too much.
• 1:46:45
  It's overkill. And if your and if your child is
• 1:46:48
  not properly using the the phone and the tablet and the computer
• 1:46:52
  in a wise way, because they really can get into some deep,
• 1:46:56
  deep trouble. Rodney, get a campaign manager.
• 1:47:00
  For so I want to make sure. We we, we get that in that
• 1:47:03
  pocket. Computer curriculum has to get.
• 1:47:06
  Into. It's got to get into our.
• 1:47:08
  Schools it's man let. Me tell you what T they don't
• 1:47:11
  want none of me you. Got 6 foot 4300 plus that's
• 1:47:14
  running the City Council. I, I, I'm not running.
• 1:47:16
  So you can, you can make a threat.
• 1:47:18
  Daddy can make threats. I mean, I'm highly trained.
• 1:47:20
  So I would would approach my my podium.
• 1:47:24
  Please approach it. And say what you're going to
• 1:47:26
  say. I want people to know that it's
• 1:47:29
  your fault as a parent, your fellow, as a parent, because by
• 1:47:31
  your kids out there at 17 St. doing drive by mini bikes up and
• 1:47:35
  down the street at night time go karts and and we allow the
• 1:47:39
  police allow them to drive around the streets like that.
• 1:47:41
  Now it's like I got a question. I got a question because I I.
• 1:47:45
  Just happened to be in Hollywood the other night and and I was
• 1:47:51
  Mandy still came down the street.
• 1:47:53
  Stunting on dirt. Bikes.
• 1:47:54
  No. Yeah.
• 1:47:55
  Lights. No Hell.
• 1:47:58
  Yeah, and the. Police was on the other.
• 1:47:59
  Side of the street. And I was like.
• 1:48:01
  I remember back in the day, if you had a mini bite, it was
• 1:48:04
  over. They confiscated your mini bite.
• 1:48:08
  Done you done you, done you walking home.
• 1:48:10
  Done, I mean. No, if they stopped.
• 1:48:12
  You if they stopped you, your bike got confiscated.
• 1:48:16
  Your parents had to get involved.
• 1:48:18
  It was a ticket. And now, I mean, the police were
• 1:48:21
  just sitting there on Sunset and these dudes came down, came down
• 1:48:25
  Hollywood Blvd. study and it had thirty of them.
• 1:48:29
  That was for Yeah on 3rd. That was for Instagram.
• 1:48:32
  That was for Instagram, man. That's Instagram.
• 1:48:34
  Tick tock money. Tick tock money.
• 1:48:35
  Wow. I'm going to stop there with the
• 1:48:37
  street takeovers. That's my main.
• 1:48:38
  One of my initiatives, if your parents got a kid under 18
• 1:48:41
  driving that and tree takeovers we snatch in your car, we're
• 1:48:44
  going to dissemble it and the parents are going to pay to get
• 1:48:46
  it out. So you're going to get pizza of
• 1:48:47
  it out. You didn't get the whole car.
• 1:48:49
  You're and you want the two you want the you want the steering
• 1:48:52
  wheel, both tires. Here you go.
• 1:48:55
  All right, gentlemen, we got to get out of here.
• 1:48:59
  It's our major man. I, I thank you for hanging out
• 1:49:02
  with us, man. Thank you for your information,
• 1:49:04
  for your book, for your knowledge.
• 1:49:07
  And, and as you can see, we are, we're all on the same page with
• 1:49:09
  you. So we look forward to having
• 1:49:11
  some more discussions and figuring out how to implement
• 1:49:14
  these conversations are missing. They're missing in our
• 1:49:17
  community, in our school. So that's what we're up to.
• 1:49:21
  You write a book, man called Why?
• 1:49:23
  Why bully? Me.
• 1:49:24
  But Drake, it hurt you. What do you call the book?
• 1:49:26
  You scared of kid? Bring back.
• 1:49:28
  Scare straight. Bring it back.
• 1:49:30
  Bring it back. That's right.
• 1:49:33
  I told Doctor Bond yes on Monday.
• 1:49:36
  Like, man, we need to have a boot camp, I'd say, because man,
• 1:49:39
  LA, you know, LAUSD is so protective.
• 1:49:41
  You can't really say nothing because the child could be like,
• 1:49:44
  oh, he said something to me or he he in jail be in trouble.
• 1:49:47
  But I'm like bro, like. I can, you can.
• 1:49:49
  Only say so much. Yeah, right.
• 1:49:52
  You need to have a boot camp. So so we could do some front.
• 1:49:55
  Leaning rest or something everything but they messed up
• 1:49:57
  like you corrective they don't get in shape at the same.
• 1:50:01
  Time or something, but there's this.
• 1:50:03
  They're so protected, not in the wrong way, but you really can't
• 1:50:06
  even say much to them without right trying to get it.
• 1:50:10
  You might be in trouble for saying something, but you can't
• 1:50:12
  do that. You can't say that and listen at
• 1:50:14
  Washington Prep High School. They had two ROTC instructors,
• 1:50:19
  one was there for a long time and he had his uniforms like
• 1:50:23
  that in the in the front lobby, blah, blah.
• 1:50:26
  Man. He, he, he said something to kid
• 1:50:28
  kids and he said something. They they, they got rid of them,
• 1:50:31
  man. Yeah, the kids are the winners.
• 1:50:33
  The kids. Are the winners.
• 1:50:35
  So definitely, but all you all to Mr. Woman, what we're going
• 1:50:38
  to do with you is make sure we get our information and then of
• 1:50:42
  course we would love to you guys come out again me and for Ron is
• 1:50:46
  doing a grand opening for a all male salon called yeah, it's
• 1:50:52
  called Hammer and. Nails.
• 1:50:54
  It's all males not have a bar. It's them for the for the
• 1:50:56
  gentleman to get pampered. The owner of Fred Russell.
• 1:51:00
  We're going to be doing live. So you you go out and get
• 1:51:02
  yourself done. Rodney.
• 1:51:04
  We we have a day let you know. We'll let you know and it's
• 1:51:07
  going to be hey, I'm coming down.
• 1:51:08
  Yeah, come out support. Your vets come we're.
• 1:51:12
  Going to have vets there. We have some special guests
• 1:51:13
  there coming out. So look out for me and for Ron
• 1:51:15
  doing, you know. Bags to canvas live sports show
• 1:51:19
  from Hammer Nails at SB 12121 Olympic Blvd. in the city near
• 1:51:25
  Brentwood area so nice area right in the middle of the
• 1:51:27
  conference So feds Mel Russell was the CEO owner.
• 1:51:31
  There's a franchise anyone can own one Anybody can own them a
• 1:51:34
  hammer nails on salon for men. I appreciate y'all for hanging
• 1:51:38
  out with with us tonight on. On on the.
• 1:51:40
  Trench talk edition Thank you for Ron for your time.
• 1:51:43
  I appreciate y'all good seeing y'all.
• 1:51:44
  All right. Take care.
• 1:51:48
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• 1:51:50
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