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1-29-26 Hour 2 - Broncos fire their OC/Bring back Von Miller?/Fantastic Broncos ownership · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 3: App First and Foremost Order in the Court. We found it.
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  Speaker 4: It was in the podcast studio. I was about to
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  Speaker 4: go nuclear, so.
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  Speaker 5: D Mac took it. He's the only one who uses
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  Speaker 5: that studio, and I haven't just.
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  Speaker 3: Haven't bangs. Haven't banged the gavel in a long time anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Uh so we do have it back now.
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  Speaker 4: There is I mean, you mentioned this Chris Thomason's story
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  Speaker 4: because he talked to Joe Lombardi.
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  Speaker 3: It is The quote from Lombardi is an odd one.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's it's weird.
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  Speaker 5: But it gives you, gives you an inside look at
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  Speaker 5: the relationship between these longtime Sean Payton assistance and Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 1: And it's the same.
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  Speaker 5: Type of relationship I think he has with bo Nix,
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  Speaker 5: which is why I think it's.
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  Speaker 1: Important to go down this road.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: I wish that real quick. I wish that you that
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  Speaker 2: all of us were interviewed separately by somebody. You want
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  Speaker 2: to see some dynamics. Let's all get interviewed separately about
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  Speaker 2: our show by somebody else. That's that's the wedding. I'm
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  Speaker 2: setting that up. Go ahead, what are you talking? Well, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you'll see talk about dynamics and talk about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: how how relationships work. I'm setting it up.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about that you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to All.
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  Speaker 3: Right, cool? Moving on?
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  Speaker 1: Where was I?
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  Speaker 4: There's Thomason's article Relationship of Joe Lombardy and Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 5: So Sean Payton fires Joe Lombardi and the news comes
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  Speaker 5: down after his press conference, Chris Thomasin catches up with
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  Speaker 5: Joe Lombardi. Quote, Sean decided to move on, and I
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  Speaker 5: guess that's all there is to say. I don't think
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  Speaker 5: it's ever a surprise in the NFL, not really.
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  Speaker 1: I think you can.
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  Speaker 5: Tell he Sean Payton was in one of those moods
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  Speaker 5: where he felt like some changes needed to be made,
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  Speaker 5: and I guess he decided.
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  Speaker 1: One of those was me.
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  Speaker 5: So I've been around long enough to kind of read
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  Speaker 5: the tea leaves. I guess that right there is all
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  Speaker 5: you need to know about long time Sean Payton assistants,
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  Speaker 5: because there are many more on the team. By the way,
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  Speaker 5: there's other guys on the team that have been around Sean.
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  Speaker 5: He really is a moody dude. And if one day
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  Speaker 5: he feels no, I need to make a change, the
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  Speaker 5: next day he'll call him, Hey, you're back on. Wasn't
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  Speaker 5: most remember the relationship George Steinbrenner and Billy Martin had
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  Speaker 5: in New York.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, he fired him three times.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and kept calling him back. It's the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: This is who Sean Payton is.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this guy's basically telling you, yeah, we've been
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  Speaker 5: down this road before.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we lost the game.
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  Speaker 5: Someone's gonna catch astray, and it's my turn to catch astray.
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  Speaker 1: I'll go on.
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  Speaker 5: Here's what Lombardi said when asked if he was made
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  Speaker 5: the scapegoat quote, well, we made it to the AFC Championship.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why there needs to be a scapegoat,
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  Speaker 5: So I'm not sure what I'm being scapegoated for. I
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  Speaker 5: thought it was a good season, so no, I don't
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  Speaker 5: feel like that in anyway. I just think Sean Payton
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  Speaker 5: just wanted to go in another direction.
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  Speaker 4: I think that that's very, very weird that he said
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  Speaker 4: he fired me, because he was in one of those
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  Speaker 4: moods doesn't seem like.
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  Speaker 3: A very good reason.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I have not been a fan of Joel Lombardi's
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  Speaker 4: style of offensive football for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: How do you know what it is?
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  Speaker 5: Though he's been an offensive But if you have no
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  Speaker 5: clue what Joel Lombardi is as.
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  Speaker 3: He was the OC in Detroit, I know exactly what
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  Speaker 3: it is.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what is?
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  Speaker 4: It's very dank and dunk didnking Doug everywhere he goes.
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  Speaker 4: It's just little drop offs here. There's not a lot
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  Speaker 4: of tacking downfield like that's I don't like that style
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  Speaker 4: of football. I think it's too hard to do over
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  Speaker 4: the course of four quarters without making mistakes. Now I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what he was doing in Denver.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like it.
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  Speaker 4: Feels like if you're the coordinator for somebody who's calling plays,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's offense or defense, your job is to be
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  Speaker 4: that guy's boy, right, it's to be his pal, go out,
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  Speaker 4: help him with the game plan whatever he needs. You
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  Speaker 4: kind of do this, do that for him. You're like
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  Speaker 4: an assistant, like like an aid. But to fire somebody
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  Speaker 4: because he was in one of those moods, like if
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  Speaker 4: if RPD Kevin came up to me after the show
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  Speaker 4: today and he fired me, And I mean, why am
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  Speaker 4: I fired?
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  Speaker 3: He's just like, I'm just in one of those can
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  Speaker 3: you give me a reason doing something right?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: But but this is the guys, this is what you
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  Speaker 1: need to understand.
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  Speaker 5: This is Sean Payton's reputation around the league that he's
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  Speaker 5: died babolical like this. He's enigmatic, he's crazy, he does
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  Speaker 5: things like this. Jay Gruden, John Gruden's brother, was also
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  Speaker 5: interviewed by Chris Thominson in this article and he said, quote,
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  Speaker 5: I hate the scapegoat.
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  Speaker 1: Thing because to me, Sean is the one with the
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  Speaker 1: play sheet.
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  Speaker 5: He's the one putting the plays together, He's putting the
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  Speaker 5: game plan together.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think any coach should.
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  Speaker 5: Be fired when they go to the AFC Championship game
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  Speaker 5: with a backup quarterback and lose by three points based
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  Speaker 5: on the decision the head coach made.
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  Speaker 1: That's what bothers me. Court to Jay Gruden, it's true.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and again, I think your reasoning was.
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  Speaker 4: More accurate after the press conference got done when you
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  Speaker 4: said Vic that maybe he didn't like the way the
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  Speaker 4: running game was being put together, and maybe that's something
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  Speaker 4: that Lombardi had a hand in. But it is kind
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  Speaker 4: of like, look, man, if they fired Vance Joseph because
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  Speaker 4: the defense was bad, that would make sense because you're like,
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  Speaker 4: you're calling the plays, you're in charge of it. It's stunk,
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  Speaker 4: See you later. But I don't know what he does.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what Lombardy's.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: Do you fire him because you didn't do enough to
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  Speaker 5: help me or to change my mind or to.
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  Speaker 1: What was it?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think we know because we don't know exactly
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  Speaker 5: what his role was. Yeah, we know what his title was.
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  Speaker 5: We know what Joe's Joe's title is OC, but what
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  Speaker 5: was his role?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no idea. I mean most you're on the
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  Speaker 3: decorum train today? Is this lack decorum?
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  Speaker 2: No? I think it's I find it to be interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Come in deal with Russy. People take their side. Mostly
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  Speaker 2: Ruscott pummeled. I mean Russcott pummeled like that UFC guy
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  Speaker 2: in the corner, just getting pummeled right.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it is just kind of like when russ came
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  Speaker 4: in here, it was a convenient thing of anything that went.
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  Speaker 3: How about this, Yeah, when they.
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  Speaker 2: Took me it's by the way, I'm tired of Peyton
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  Speaker 2: bringing a packet anymore. It's four years ago, man, and
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  Speaker 2: the four seasons. You go, enough of this crap. No
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  Speaker 2: more Hacket. If I if I hear Nathaniel Hackett or
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  Speaker 2: previous regime one more time, I'm gonna puke. Enough of
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  Speaker 2: that crap.
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  Speaker 4: From a straight pr standpoint, though, Russell Wilson's like the
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  Speaker 4: best thing you could ask for when you got here,
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  Speaker 4: and anything that went great, you were the genius that
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  Speaker 4: turned it round.
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  Speaker 2: Look at his face.
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  Speaker 4: Look at his face, and anything that wom with that,
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  Speaker 4: anything that went wrong, You're like, well look at this
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  Speaker 4: dumb dumb right, what does it do with this?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't bring this guy in. He's he's cooked any Okay,
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  Speaker 2: but you see, then you get to the playoffs, then
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  Speaker 2: you get to a number one see blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: Look at these layers of the onions starting to be
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  Speaker 2: peeled back one by one, you know, concerning this coach
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  Speaker 2: shit is former o C. I would be fascinated to
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  Speaker 2: hear an interview with the other two assistants just got
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  Speaker 2: got I just got the ziggy. I'd be fascinated to
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  Speaker 2: hear that. Then the quarterback situation, I mean you just
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  Speaker 2: see this is not abnormal. I mean because again it's
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  Speaker 2: pro sports, high ego, well, a lot of pressure, all that
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  Speaker 2: kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he fired out.
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  Speaker 5: Wide receivers coach because apparently he didn't have his thumbs
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  Speaker 5: together when he caught passes.
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  Speaker 2: That one.
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  Speaker 3: That one actually makes sense though you almost led the
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  Speaker 3: league in drops. That's a problem. Why did okay, why
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  Speaker 3: don't the cornerbacks coach get fired?
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know what, I'll tell you why you think?
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  Speaker 5: There are a couple occasions when he walked in into
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  Speaker 5: the corner coach and said, hey, why is Riley Moss
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  Speaker 5: having all these pis?
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  Speaker 1: Can we fix that?
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  Speaker 2: Police? Okay, well that's how much of that it's on
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  Speaker 2: Riley Moss. Hold on a second, Hold on a second.
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  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just I'm giving you re See, we have reasons
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  Speaker 5: to think why these people were fired. I still don't
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  Speaker 5: know what Joe Lombardi did inside the intricacies of his
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  Speaker 5: job to understand why.
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  Speaker 3: He was let go.
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  Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton is not dropping balls because he's not keeping
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  Speaker 2: his thumbs together. So this is just listened to. Would
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  Speaker 2: you just listen to yourself talk, listen to your own
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  Speaker 2: damn self for once instead of lah. So I'm not
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  Speaker 2: talking about you Vicar or you Bret. I'm talking about just.
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  Speaker 3: By I wish you were talking to vic Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well you know what, Hey, hey, what about that the
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  Speaker 2: touchdown you actually scored against the Buffalo Bills. Well Sutton
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  Speaker 2: kept the stumps together on that play? I cry Well,
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  Speaker 2: I almost said it for crying out loud? Can we
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  Speaker 2: just be real about this for it's Yeah, maybe he's
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  Speaker 2: in a mood, whatever it may be. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But these layers are being peeled back one by one,
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  Speaker 2: and there are some interesting dynamics like there always are
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  Speaker 2: with these pro teams. There are dynamics that we don't
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  Speaker 2: know about. Now we're getting exposed to them just a
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  Speaker 2: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: So then about it and take a step back. Think
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 5: The Denver Bronco's overachieved so much this year. They got
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  Speaker 5: to the AFC title Game and they hosted it. The
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  Speaker 5: overachieving is through one seed. How many overachieving one seeds.
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  Speaker 1: Fire three offensive assistance after getting there? That's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: It's two right, two and then a cornerback.
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  Speaker 1: Corner three assistant coaches fired. That's what when you think
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  Speaker 1: about it, that is pretty nuts.
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  Speaker 4: A Texter says this, he goes, oh my gosh, I
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  Speaker 4: head football coach in charge fired his assistance Oh it's
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  Speaker 4: the end of the world. Doesn't Andy Reid do the
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  Speaker 4: same thing in Kansas City? You know what, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what the rate of assistant coaches being fired for
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  Speaker 4: successful seasons after successful seasons are, but I can.
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  Speaker 3: Tell you this.
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  Speaker 4: The weird thing about it is one of if one
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  Speaker 4: of them came up to a reporter after he was
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  Speaker 4: fired in Kansas City and he goes, yeah, Andy was
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  Speaker 4: just in one of those moods and now I'm gone.
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  Speaker 4: Wouldn't she be like, well, that's a weird thing to say.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and the thing is, Lombardi was with Peyton in
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  Speaker 2: before he went to the Chargers. He was with for
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  Speaker 2: a long five years, Yeah, in New Orleans, or maybe
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  Speaker 2: even longer than that. I think longer than that. So
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  Speaker 2: he Yeah, he was with Sean Payton for a long time,
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  Speaker 2: so we obviously knows him. Well, here's what I do know,
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  Speaker 2: or at least what I think I know. The Broncos
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  Speaker 2: are not not in the Super Bowl because of Lombardi
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  Speaker 2: and the two other assistants. Okay, it's confluence of circumstances,
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  Speaker 2: injured quarterback, you know, fourth down call, I mean, whatever
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  Speaker 2: the case may be. I mean, it's just look, man,
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  Speaker 2: well it's not my team started.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's this is how simple it is.
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  Speaker 4: I would but I would think starter in the AFC
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  Speaker 4: Championship game and it snowed, you weren't going to score.
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  Speaker 3: That's why you weren't in the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: I would think with a team that was one quarter
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  Speaker 2: away from a Super Bowl berth overachieving as a one seed,
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  Speaker 2: you don't just go, you know what, we really we
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  Speaker 2: have a bunch of screw ups here. Let's let's change something.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think if they win the game, do you
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  Speaker 5: think if they go to the super Bowl, Let's say
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  Speaker 5: they lose the super Bowl, do you think these changes
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  Speaker 5: are made?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. You look at Buffalo, Sean McDermott
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  Speaker 2: was gone. Whether he won or not.
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  Speaker 5: That was six years though. But that was see, that's
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  Speaker 5: that's that was a different deal. That that's that was coming.
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  Speaker 5: You could feel that coming. This was sort of I.
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  Speaker 4: Actually do I actually do if they won the super Bowl,
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  Speaker 4: I maybe it's a little bit different, but you're right,
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  Speaker 4: Teams that overachieve to the level the Broncos did. Were
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  Speaker 4: we're the season was starting, We're like, gosh, can they
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  Speaker 4: just compete for the AFC West? Can they can compete
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  Speaker 4: just with Kansas City? And they were the best team
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  Speaker 4: in the AFC. They were the best team in the league.
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  Speaker 5: They hit record, pecked every box, they checked every box,
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  Speaker 5: and then something.
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  Speaker 3: But when that happens.
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  Speaker 4: But when that happens, VIC, you lose coaches when that happens,
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  Speaker 4: because they get hired in other places.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we just have to come to terms
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  Speaker 5: with the capricious nature of Sean Payton. This is who
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  Speaker 5: he is and this is what he does, and his
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  Speaker 5: reputation preceded him, and everybody in the NFL knows that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, oh well you're gonna get this with him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that that's why I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I don't sneeze at that whole Bowl and Sean Payton
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  Speaker 5: press conference. Think it's just I think it's bo saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you guys know, Sean, he opened his mouth when didn't
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  Speaker 5: you didn't have to.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a big deal. I really don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't either.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on the same page I tex you, says,
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  Speaker 4: to be fair, you guys did complain about the offense
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  Speaker 4: all year. I fully understand. That's why I'm not all
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  Speaker 4: that surprised by that stuff. The cornerback one actually does
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  Speaker 4: surprise me, like they were pretty damn good.
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  Speaker 5: I thought we did complain about the offense, but the
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  Speaker 5: complaint who organizes the offense.
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  Speaker 2: Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 3: He's not going to fire himself.
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  Speaker 2: I just I just responded. I said, yeah, but it's
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  Speaker 2: Peyton's offense, his play calling, Dave.
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  Speaker 5: You know, firing, I think firing a guy who you
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  Speaker 5: don't know, who's what role he had, would be like me,
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  Speaker 5: I want to fire Mark Moser because his face forces
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  Speaker 5: me to say things I don't want to say. His
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  Speaker 5: face you fired, don't do me any favorites, jerk, But
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, that's sort of the rationale here, Dude,
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  Speaker 5: if anybody got fired because of their face, you would
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  Speaker 5: have been gone in twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: Let's be honest about it.
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  Speaker 4: Probably maybe that's it, if his job is just kind
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  Speaker 4: of be Sean Payton's pal.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe just got sick of them, it's tired of hanging
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  Speaker 3: around him, Like maybe I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know even we need to even we need a break
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  Speaker 2: from each other sometimes, and I'm gonna get a big
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  Speaker 2: one in about a week, week and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Most of you thought about your apology or no, well yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Vicker's what I thought about it. I don't give
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  Speaker 2: a rats flip and tail whether we play it or not.
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  Speaker 2: You ain't getting.
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  Speaker 1: Jack squad out of me, So you're not gonna apologize.
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  Speaker 2: If if you want to punish the listeners because of
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  Speaker 2: your ego, you go right ahead and do that.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just Brett. Are you on the same page
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  Speaker 1: he or is it just me?
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  Speaker 3: I just like the back and forth I'm hearing you
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  Speaker 3: guys today.
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  Speaker 2: I like it.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, hey, someone said, hey, powder haye powder Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: get bent too.
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  Speaker 2: You're you're not immune from this crap.
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  Speaker 3: Took a whole second and a half of a pause
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  Speaker 3: to say get bent.
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  Speaker 1: To right right. Somebody's saying that I'm gonna say something
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  Speaker 1: a lot worse.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm I'm holding my tongue today because I'm colding
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  Speaker 2: my ontreol.
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  Speaker 5: A couple of people in the text line said, boy,
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: you guys sound very jealous of Moser and what he
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: produced with that wagon song.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you some powder, you know enoughing about me?
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  Speaker 5: If you think there's any hint of jealousy for that
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  Speaker 5: trash they put out there into the into the blogg
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  Speaker 5: Is Fear or whatever that podcast is, fear, I will
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  Speaker 5: look that you think I'm jealous over that?
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  Speaker 3: I have to toot my own horn. But did you
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: guys hear my rap verse in that song?
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, did you hear our our our song versus?
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, are you kidding me? Jealousy?
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: What it is?
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: It's sympathy, not jealousy, sympathy.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: But what's the text? Say it slowly? Please one more time?
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: The text line number slowly three zero three.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Five zero four. Now I can't do it slowly? I
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: like forgotten now nine zero.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Two regular zero zero nine two five yeah zero three
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: five or four o nine two five see if I do?
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: If I do it fast, yeah, three or three five
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: four on two five back after this?
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to say it that way.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: So if anybody, if anybody has never heard step Back
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Jacob bloom or in which I find hard to believe,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: which is it? Which is amazing to me because it
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: was all over Spotify as a number one hit. If
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: you haven't heard it yet, you want to hear it,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: then get on then bang Vic, bang him, bang me,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: and tell them just bang him three oh three, five
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: oh four nine two five. And if you haven't heard
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: it and you want to hear it, this is on Vic.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: This is all about him and his little spite.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Hey just quickly here. VIC is going to be live
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: from Radio Row in San Francisco. And that's all thanks
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: to groove Toyota. Start here, go anywhere on Broadway in
• 16:39
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• 16:42
  Speaker 1: And I just have a simple request.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: We will gladly play that song as soon as you
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: apologize for going behind our back.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Not gonna do it, Okay, Sometimes my creativity needs to
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: branch out. We were a rapp country artist.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: We got done both, Okay, get to the app rapping country.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I have a question about it.
• 17:00
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• 17:02
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• 17:52
  Speaker 1: And the way things go right now, how they ramp
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: up these guys for availability. If you're if you're paying attention.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: So tonight they're gonna be minus four stargers again the Nuggets.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: They're not gonna have Joker available. Those guys, so they're
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: not even on the injury report yet they're out. They
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: have a back to back tomorrow night they play the Clippers.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: We'll see if they show up on the injury report
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: for that one. But the way things stand, I don't
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: think Joker will be available for that game Sunday night
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: at this rate.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Well, they said reevaluated in a week. When was that
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: was that Monday?
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: That was on Tuesday?
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Tuesday or Tuesday? Yeah, so probably not.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Now, going back to the ash from last night, here's
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: what my sort of I guess synopsis of that was.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: They're done.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: They just want this break to get here. They're tired
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: of it. They want whatever that is, three weeks what
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: is it, most three weeks off something like that. They
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: can see it. They've played really good hockey this year.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: They got a few guys banged up, but they just
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: had nothing last night. Don't believe me. Listen to the coach.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, flat, almost the whole team.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I don't want to group everyone into that because it's
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: not accurate, but the bulk of our team flat. There
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: is no scenario in which the Abs midway through a
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: hockey game, at the halfway point of it, have six
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: shots on goal.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Not in the history of not in the history of mankind.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: In fact, well, they had eight shots bread through two.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: It was eight total, and I pat the stat sent
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: it to me. It's the least amount of shots they'd
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: had in it through two periods and over two years,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: and the previous load this season was sixteen. Yeah, so
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: it just shows you that everything was just off. If
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: you look, they're a really good team in the back
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: to back. They were five to one and one in
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: game number two, of four to one and two in
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I mean game number one, four to one and two
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: in game number two. Tonight's the second of the back
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: to back. They should be motivated. They're gonna be wearing
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: obviously the Quebec Nordice sweaters. But you're in Montreal, I mean,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: you're at the Bell Center here. They're gonna be fired
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: up to play you. You need to be fired up
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: to play them.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: That's a good point.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: On top of that, you know it was Ottawa team
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: that you disassembled the last time you played them.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: You know it's not a top notch team.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: But it's just here's what you're gonna get, buddy, You're
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: gonna get as you get further on here. I mean,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: look these last couple of games before the break, but
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: certainly coming out of the break, you play five in
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: seven coming out of the Olympic break, you're gonna be
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: hitting some desperate teams, either for position or just to
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: get in like Utah. And then of course you're gonna
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: you're gonna square up against Minnesota. La Is gonna be desperate.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Annaheim's gonna be desperate. You're gonna go to Dallas, then
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: you get Mini again. I mean, these teams are gonna
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: be garnering position or fighting for a position, or just
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: like last night Ottawa, they gotta go now. If they
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: don't go now, they are not gonna be able to
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: battle for a playoff spot. So they know that, and
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: they played very hard and very stingy last night.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: So the remaining schedule before the break Montreal tonight, then
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: two against Detroit, one in Detroit, then at home on Monday,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: and the final before the break is San Jose next
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Wednesday night. So those games, those final four cannot get
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: here and be played soon.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Enough, that is correct.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: The how many is it three weeks off? Exactly? Three
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: weeks off for the break.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: The next game will be on the twenty fifth, So
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: the fourth through the twenty fifth, yeah, twenty one weeks. Yeah,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: but again the freeze, the actual freeze is the fourth
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: through the twenty second.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: All right, So the guys who are playing in the Olympics,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: clearly they're going to be doing. Everybody else is just
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: vacation time. They just take off.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Suh. Yeah, Brud, give me your favorite Dug, give me
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: your favorite.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Child, because that's you know what this is not being
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: talked about. The teams that are gonna be able.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: To get it back together again and continue on whatever
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: pace they had.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Before the break. That's a long time off. It's a restart.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: Oh it's it's it's more than a restart. That's a
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: that's gonna be important. Those ramp up days leading up
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: to that first game back, those are gonna be vital.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: By the way, just quickly, because I had Nelly got
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: this up for me. This was me watching the Avs
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: game last night.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: If you guys remember in the Hangover when Chow is
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: singing the Hurt song by Johnny Cash.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: This was me watching the Avs.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: What am I watching?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I was just like, what is this?
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: This is not the Avalanche team.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: It was like watching them sing Hurt by Johnny Cash
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: for three straight periods.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it did, certainly, it certainly did not look like
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: the Avs that we know. I mean, finally it started
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: to bretton that third period. It did, but by that
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: point it's in a little too little, too late. His
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: room made a great play. You know, they the guys
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: got behind the abs a little bit black would actually
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: save their bacon on more than one occasion. You know,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: a couple of breakaways, a couple two on one is
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: The other thing I find interesting is in the second
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: half of the season, it's gonna play itself out.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Who's goalie won on this team?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's Mackenzie Blackwood, is it? But it
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: could be But it could be Scott Wedgwood. I mean,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I think Jared Bedner will tell you who's ever playing
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the best. Yeah, they're both under contract and they're both
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: really good. He was I thought he was. He gave
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: up three, but I thought he was fine. I mean,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I thought it was more than He made.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Some huge saves though, huge, big.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Big, big saves. The Abs were gonna win that game.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: And he's got to find that rhythm because he's been
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: in and out of the line. If you heard him
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the other night we talked to him, He's like, it
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: totally sucks because I can't. You know, you want to
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: get in and you want to get your rhythm going.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: He's like, but I'm in and I got this injury.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Nobody's more frustrated than he is. So yeah, it stakes Hey.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: By the way, uh quick a side here. I'm gonna
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: play a piece of audio and then I'm going to
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: put it up to a straw poll.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: So hang with me.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: This is a former Denver athlete, beloved athlete, not Michael
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Porter Jr. It said this the other day. Next year,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: this Denver Broncos team is gonna be scared.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: And I think that's where you enter Von Miller.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: If you win a Super Bowl in two different eras,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: that'd be these other crazy.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not throwing anybody under the bus.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: But that play at the end of the game where
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: Drake may rolled out but a blue legg and got
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: the first down, I think makes it play.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: I think fingers ain't nobody I'm I'm just saying me.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying me. I make that play.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: Wait and maybe the Broncos get another chance at the
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: ball when Vum makes that say, everybody goes.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Great, straw.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Take the temperature of the room, yes or no? Would
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: you want Von back?
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Now? I love There's no point, No, I love him
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: to no. No is he is he pulling a Ricky
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Henderson there by the way, Yes he is. Yeah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: It was a lot of He's on his own podcast
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: talking about himself.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: In the third person, and by not trying to criticize
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: a player, he criticized the player.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like, don't like how I he was
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: throwing Jonahlis under the bus, number one, number two, and
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: keep those coming in.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Yes or no?
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Would you want von back? I just want to see
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: where people are at. The reason I say no to this,
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: like I always kind of judge this when things pull
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: out your heart strings and you get nostalgic about, you
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: know what, what things used to be.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: You have to give me this answer.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: And to be fair, Vaughn had nine sacks last year.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: It's not like he wasn't producing. He had nine sacks.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: But if von Miller wasn't a former Bronco, beloved, former Bronco,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: one of the greatest players of all time, would you
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: want von Miller on this team?
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: That's how you have to view this.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: It's not a position of need, that's the thing.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: And I have a maybe you were a receiver or
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: a tight end or a running back, and then I'd
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: be okay, let's talk about it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: But it's not a position of need right now. It's
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: a it's a luxury item.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Here's the thing, but just just quickly, here motion, let
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: me get this out. Get this out, because you can
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: never have enough pass rushers. And understand that. I have
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: a bigger concern of like, is Vaughn gonna come in
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: here and try and be a leader type?
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: They they got that under control. They're fine. I think
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: you need people to fit.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: In now instead of try and create their own thing.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: They have a working machine right now that was very
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: very good this last year. But if you eliminate nostalgia
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: from the discussion, would you be wanting this to happen?
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Yes or no?
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: And I think most people's answer is no, Yeah, go ahead, motion.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Would you like an analogy? Okay, I've had three pickup
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: trucks in my life, and every time I sold that truck,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, man, like the truck driving away and
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, I want a truck, you know what
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I mean? Like, because if you don't have a truck,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: you need a truck. You really need a truck. Right.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: It feels to me like the Dave von god dealt
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: driving out of the parking lot. Vic. You remember that
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: day's trying in his rig. Remember, Yeah, Like since that day,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: he's wanted to be a Bronco again. Since since his
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: tires left the parking lot at Dove Valley. He's like,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I want to be a Bronco, So this doesn't surprise
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: me at all. It's just not a position of need.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: And I love von Miller, I really do. I just don't.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know where he would fit on this squad.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: And you're telling me that Vaughn would a truck down
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: drake me on the on the naked boot.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know you, And let me end the argument.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Even if he does. Let's say he reads the play
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and he tracks him down for a loss of three.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: So what.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: What then?
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: What happens? Well, you gotta get the ball back and
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: move the ball. Have they been able to move the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: ball at all?
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: That would have forced a punt?
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: But okay, and then what Yeah, he would have to
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: go down and I wouldn't give you That's what I'm
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: getting at.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: He would be giving you a shot, okay, But it
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't solve the problem. The needs of the team, the needs?
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: What are the needs? Yeah?
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: You know what's really weird about this too? And maybe
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: this can tell you something. Do you guys value George
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Payton's ability to evaluate talent?
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I think he's earned as much.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: For two straight years, Von Miller has been John Cuzac
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: and say anything just outside the facility with the boombox,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: and they've just kept the door shut. He has been
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: begging to come back here for multiple years now, and
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: they're like, yeah, I think we're good for me.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Let me give you a little insight too.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: So Sean Payton has already chased away vocal players like
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: guys who go outside the box and yeah, very vocal.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Do you think he's going to listen to a dude
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: on his own podcast to out the fact that he
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: could have made a play and going to say to
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: that dude, oh yeah, we want some of that here.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I just was talking about.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Though.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: It's like there's a personality fit thing that maybe worked
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: for Vaughn you know ten years ago, that doesn't I
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: don't think.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: It would work now.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: Don't ain't gonna happen. Hey, So you know of the
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: free agents that are veil we didn't even bring this up.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Who's gonna play linebacker for the Broncos next year?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know they're gonna sign Singleton, the leading tackler.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Singleton said this would be the richest player ever.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Right, we have a lot of free wrestling money, right,
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: I'll take I'll figure it out from there.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, I want to be back here, you know.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I help Vj's back first, and then you know, just
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: more so I mean our defense.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Hey, yeah, he wants to be back, you know, regarding
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: the VJ thing. Let's let's just bring this up right now.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Vance Joseph is going to be the Broncos defensive coordinator
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: next year. I think that window of opportunity, judging on
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: all the coaching candidates, yea, all the jobs being filled,
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: that's gone, right.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Would he would have been gone by now, he would
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: have been gone by now, got a job or he
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: wanted a job.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's gone.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: So Vance Joseph will be your DC next year unless
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: has one of those days or one of those moods.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Unless he's in a mood.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: So.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Jim Leonard now is.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: By the way, the Baltimore Ravens have requested permission to
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: interview Jim Leonard for their DC job.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: He's also up for the job in LA for the Chargers.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: So you got probably gonna lose a Jim Leonard.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: No, the Chargers just hired somebody chrys Oh okay for
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: their d C at its Michigan.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, gotcha?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Hey, uh hey uh can I should I be bon
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: for a second like this? Yeah? So yeah. And like
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that these guys aren't good, but if
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Moses calling the Olympics man over in Milan, Italy, people
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: like yeah, mo, yeah, oh keep calling that game, baby,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah listen, I'm just saying that I would have called
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a really good goal at that time. That's all I'm saying.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: You know, if Team USA beats Canada, you know, like
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: in the final and like paper, yeah, Mos, you called
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: the hell out of that game, I think I'd be
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: really I think old Moe should be really good at that.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: A texture actually pointed this out, and it's kind of
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: my point. I I referenced this in the appetizer regarding Vaughn.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: So Vaughan is the former Bronco, former Denver guy who
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: obviously loves it here as most do, and wants to
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: come back, especially with the team that's good. And the
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Texter says Bruce Brown did the same thing, and I said,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: absolutely right now, Bruce Brown, I think was another one
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: of those nostalgist type of things. He comes back to
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: be like, dude, this is amazing. And I asked the
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: question before the season started. I go, is nobody like
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: a little bit curious as to why three teams passed on.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Him in two years?
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: And I think we can all admit Bruce has been fine.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Has he been what you thought he would be?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: He's not what he was when he was here. But
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: he also understands.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: It's funny because I spoke to him in the locker
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: room after the last game. He had a great game
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: in the last game.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: This he was lost in that. He looked really he did.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: He was going to the hole.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: He was the only guy that was effective going to
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: the hole. And he said as much. I gotta I
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: gotta fix my jumper. And I think that's the missing
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: piece right now. He's not confident shooting.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: He would knock down threes consistently.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Yea, his first he knows it. He's got to fix that,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and he does. I think.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: I think because Bruce is still active defensively, I still
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: love it.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he can fix that. You'll see the Bruce.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: That's that's what I was asking.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: I was like, everybody is pumped about the Bruce sning.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: Iowas too, but I'm like, nobody's curious as to why
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: three different teams are like, no, thank you.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, get me to the postseason. Get me to the
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the Bruce Wi b that I know when it really
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: matters where you could face elimination, then I'm all in
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: because his tenacity.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: He's a dog.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: His attitude. Yeah, it is going to it's gonna make
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: a difference. No, mo two game crap, it's eighty two
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: game stuff. Now we're beyond that. Man, Get me to
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the post season. You bring up a good game. I'm
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: in Montreal, Vick, give me to his post season.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: We have three months to talk this, talk this out.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: I am very eager to find out who makes the
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: Nuggets playoff rotation, because that job became a lot harder
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: over what we've seen the last two week.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: One lass reminder for this hour, the keyword is binder
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: with a B. What we're saying finder earlier. I don't
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: know how much Binder like sort sorting things. Binders. So
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: text set in the first last name to three O
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: three five O four nine two five get a chance
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: to go to that Clippers game tomorrow at Ballerina. Yeah, Nelly,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: I don't get the binder thing with the clippers?
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: What is that? What is it?
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: What's the reference here?
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: Help me look at look at the keywords so far
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: it is things you clip. We had hair clips, movie clips,
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: binder clips.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Uh, okay, all right, stings.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Clips not clippers.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Got you lame.
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: So maybe the keyword should have been aspiration trees. Yeah,
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: fraud the keyword scam.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe the keyword should have been dork.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: It could have worked.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Uh anyway, three O three, five O four, nine to five.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Jeff Legwald, you know what first question out of the
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: gates for leg at nine o'clock.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: What did Joe Lombardi do?
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: What did he do?
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: We'll get to that in just what did he do
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: for his job?
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: And what did you do to get fired? That's the question.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: We'll do that in twenty minute. Stick around.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Tune in all week all next week as VIC is
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: live from Readio, Row and San Francisco thanks to Colorado
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: off Road Colorado Grown, Colorado owned, Colorado off Road Online
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: at cu coof road dot com. Do you think Jeff
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Lagwell's gonna join us in about fifteen minutes?
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, mos, Vicky, are you taking your gold jacket again?
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: You're gonna try to make this happen. Are they gonna
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: have a Hall of Famers there or is that just
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: simply a Hall of Fame ceremony thing.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Next week? You mean, yeah, no, no that's not I
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: only take the gold jacket Canton.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I don't know.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it to San Francisco.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, can I play? You're not in San Francisco, by
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: the way, You're you're right by San Jose. You're way
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: way way South Bay.
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: No.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: No, every single thing I do next week will be
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: in San Francisco at the Moscone Convention Center, which is
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: in San f Zisco. Every single thing. The Pro Bowl,
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: by the way, will be played on Tuesday. We applied
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: for credentials and we were denied, And I said, what
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: are you doing? We have six Broncos in the Pro Bowl.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: They're playing the Pro Bowl flag football game in the
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: Convention Center.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: What so wait, they denied you credentials to go and
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: cover something that nobody gives a rat's rip about. Anyway.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, okay, tonight, Oh hey, could I.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Get credentials to the Pro Bowl Monopoly game? Nope? Sorry, denied.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: So right now I'm trying to parse out how many
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: wigs I'm taking with me, and which ones?
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: You know what, man, take them all, and you know what,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: go poses somebody else. They denied you credentials to the
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowl.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: And it fel is so weird about stuff like that.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Check good god a you know what, dude, I've had
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: about it, Brett. I'm I'm at my wits end already
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: here this morning. I just look out the window. It's
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: snowing up. Still. It means the wind is blown, it's
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: snowing up. I'm about my wits end. But being denied
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: credentials to the Pro Bowl, it's like the dumbest thing
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I've ever heard from to buy your life.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: What a bummer.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: Vic's one of the only people that actually voluntarily is
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: asking to attend.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Exactly it's exactly right, doing you a favor. I was like, hey,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I know that you guys can't give these away.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I'll I'll go, oh sorry, I guarantee you people people
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: who are forced to cover the Pro Bowl would rather
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: be amputated.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: You guys want to see the separation.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: It's just so ridiculous of the position your.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Team is in as opposed to where it could be
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: could be. You got a really, really, really great ownership group.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Here Walton Penner's are I think as good an A
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: plus plus plus plus as far as what you could
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: hope for. Like here's Greg Penner yesterday on involvement in
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: football decisions.
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: My style is more to probe and ask lots of questions,
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: trying not to be in a position of needing to
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: make any final decisions on type of football decisions. But
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: we've got an open dialogue. I talk to those guys
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: every day. If we've got a critical decision we're making,
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: we're gonna talk about it. But you know, if the
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: two of them agree on something and recommend it, be
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: pretty unlikely that I'd ever overrule that.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: That's what you want to hear from your owner.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Hey man, I'm just here to ask what's going on,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: and if you two are in agreement on something, then
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: I'm just going to back off and let you guys
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: do your thing because I don't know football. You guys do,
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: and that's why I hired you. That's how an owner
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: should conduct himself.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: And then you hired them to do a job. You know,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: real quick, Brett, I want you to finish, But I
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: want to remind everybody that the one pinner group. I
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: didn't really know jack about the NFL and you know,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: the ins and outs of daily ownership stuff until they
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: got in and they went through a fire hose type
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: of situation. They've got a pretty damn good handle on
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: it now. I really do. I feel very confident in
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: this group. Go ahead, could be this.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: This is Tony Grossie on ESPN Cleveland.
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: My initial reaction is holy cow. My second reaction is
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: is Schwartz the DC or not? That would help me
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: accept it. If he's not, you're gonna get an offense
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: coordinator and a defensive coordinator off the grid that we
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: haven't been talking about. So let's see how the dust settles.
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: But this indicates that Haslam was never comfortable with Shieldhouse
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: and he went against the recommendation of his search committee
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: leader in GM, So you got to wonder about the
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: future of Andrew Berry. They chose offense over defense, and
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: they weren't comfortable with Shielhouse.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: So this is all on has This is what he's
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: getting at.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: The search committee that was hired to find a new
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: head coach for the Cleveland Browns and their GM that
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: he retained after firing their last head coach. Both said
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Shieldhouse is the guy that we need to go get
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: out of LA and Jimmy Haslam goes, no, I'm hiring
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: top Monken, which at that point, what's the purpose of
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: even having people around you?
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: And Haslam you know if you guys don't know, Jim
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Schwartz is a pretty respected DC. I guess he was
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: so upset with how they went about stringing him along
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: for this head coaching gig. He goes, I'm not sticking
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: around here.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I'm gone.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: He's gonna leave.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: That's a mess.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: That's what ownership could look like.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: By the way, that's what Garrett Miles. Garrett just didn't.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: He just put out a I want to be traded
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: every question.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I think that's fake. I think that was from last year.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, but who knows.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, he very well could.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Isn't that just crazy though, to think about where your
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: ownership's at, where your guy just said, Hey, if these
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: two dudes want to do something, I'm on board, and
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: this one said everybody told me to make the other choice.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: But I'm in charge. Here's what we're doing.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: It's stupid, is.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: What it is.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: Look look at the last two organizations still looking for
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: head coaches.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: What are they?
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: The Raiders and the Browns, the Raiders and the Cardinals.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and you know a lot of that comes
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: from ownership.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, from the top. Yes, it's always what it is.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: So we'll talk to Jeff Leagwall in a couple of minutes.
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: One last way, Leggie is live from the Senior Bowl
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: in Greenbow, Alabama. All right, he'll be giving us his observations.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: To discuss with Leggy about this Hall of Fame, the Shenanigans.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: I think he's gonna tell you. I think he's gonna
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: tell you. He can't say anything. Remember, he can't.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: He's not allowed to say anything until the results are out.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: Oh I know, I know, But I mean the Hall
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: of Fame, the curator of the Pro Football Hall. Ye
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: issue to press release yesterday saying we're going to do
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: some things.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. So we're just curious.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: We'll talk to about that, along with the the decisions
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: to let go some coaches, including Joe Lombardi. I got
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: one more piece of audio. I want to play you
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: guys though. You guys remember very very good player, the
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: honey Tyron Matthew Right.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I loved his game, So if you remember early in.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: His career, even dating back to when he was at LSU,
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: he had a lot of weed problems. He kept getting
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: popped with drug tests that always came up positive. He
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: got suspended, all that different stuff, Right, you guys remember this?
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Not really, but I'll go with it.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, it happened to him. He was like, who's the
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: receiver out in Cleveland, Josh Gordon?
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Is that his names?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Gordon?
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Same sort of story, Randy Gregory, same sort of story,
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Like they kept getting popped with positive drug tests. He
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: couldn't stop. So he's on a podcast and he was asked,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: what lengths did you go to try and to try
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: and pass these tests?
• 41:38
  Speaker 9: Listen to this the couple tests before I realized it
• 41:41
  Speaker 9: was gonna kick me out of school, I'm sitting in
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: a circle. I'm on Google trying to figure out, man,
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: how to past this test. And I'm just scrolling, scrolling,
• 41:48
  Speaker 9: and I come across from let's say it, man, just
• 41:51
  Speaker 9: put a little bleach in the top and put it
• 41:53
  Speaker 9: in your Coca Cola. And so I did that, and
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: I'm like, yo, what Like my whole inside was just
• 42:01
  Speaker 9: like erupting. You know what I'm saying?
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I ended up throwing that up.
• 42:04
  Speaker 9: At that probi man that ran out of tricks, right,
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: I don't know what to do, but I remember sitting
• 42:09
  Speaker 9: in front of that building man with a cap full
• 42:11
  Speaker 9: of bleach in a coke bottle, and I thought that
• 42:14
  Speaker 9: was gonna save my life.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: It didn't. It backfired.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: What he drank the leach to try and pass a
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: drug test.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: You know, this is nothing to joke about because the
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: addiction is real, right, Yes, you can get addicted to
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: that stuff. And it's pretty clear the addiction is there,
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: so addicted that he's willing to drink a cap of.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Bleach mixed with Coca cola? And so is he saying, Nelly,
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: you heard the whole clip? Was he saying he filled
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: a cap the cap of the bleach bottle and drank
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: that and then chased it with coke?
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: I mean, I know you drank a cap of bleach
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: and Coca cola, whether they were mixed or whether he
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: shot it. And I think we're kind of splitting hairs here.
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: But but and also he googled it, which means somebody
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: went on Google and said next a viable option. And
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: he saw that and said, I agree.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Give that a shot. Consult your doctor first, maybe before
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: consuming bleach.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Well, would you rather do that or use the wizator?
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: He said, he used one, He said no, No, he
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: used earlier.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: In that he said us.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: He said, I used friends pee, I used fake peas,
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: I used like all that different stuff. Yes, he said,
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: he tried everything. That's why he got to the point
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: of bleach. Couldn't pass one, couldn't do it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Kids, don't do that.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: It's very bad for you.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Your insides will erupt, as he said three, three, five, four,
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: nine two five.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Jeff Lagwell next,