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"Fairness?" (Tuesday, April 21, 2026, Hour 3) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: News and analysis now without artificial colors. The first thing
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  Speaker 1: today by Joe Thomas on the Chunk Media Network.
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  Speaker 2: Jewort said, steal me.
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  Speaker 3: A day.
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  Speaker 4: At least for work.
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  Speaker 5: When the sun comes up, drops a pet to school.
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  Speaker 6: Joe has all the treasure needs.
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  Speaker 7: No one that Joe's as smile.
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  Speaker 8: He only as.
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  Speaker 2: Said, man. The fact that my freedoms don't come from government,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's that a little detail. I understand that
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  Speaker 2: my freedoms come from somewhere else. They may play in
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  Speaker 2: the gray areas of whether or not they choose to
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  Speaker 2: defend them or not, but then for now, and this
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  Speaker 2: becomes the danger in some of the games they're playing with,
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  Speaker 2: things like the National Popular Vote Compact, which the more
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  Speaker 2: states signed into this past election cycle, still not close.
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  Speaker 2: The Convention of States is closer to happening than the
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  Speaker 2: National Popular Vote Compact from ever getting anywhere close to law.
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  Speaker 2: But the idea that New York and California and Chicago
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  Speaker 2: should determine because there's more people there that count on
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  Speaker 2: the United States than Virginia per se, well, if that's
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  Speaker 2: the case, we should just wait elections by the amount
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  Speaker 2: of people on welfare in any of these states. If
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  Speaker 2: that's how we're going to determine fairness. And that's one
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  Speaker 2: of the things today. So the polls have been open
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  Speaker 2: here in Virginia for about an hour now on this
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  Speaker 2: referendum to allow Virginia's General Assembly to suspend the Constitution
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  Speaker 2: of the States so that they can redraw congressional districts.
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  Speaker 2: And curious terms of a phrase in this law is
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  Speaker 2: that the law specifically refers to return fairness. And we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to unpack this whole cult of fairness when
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  Speaker 2: we get back from our first things, our excursion into
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  Speaker 2: what you know we're talking about this morning. But this
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  Speaker 2: is this is what they've been doing since your kid
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  Speaker 2: walked into government school. Everything is about fairness. Equity of outcome,
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  Speaker 2: not equity of opportunity. And if you can have law
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  Speaker 2: written with fairness as the doctrine, how do you enforce that?
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  Speaker 2: Ruminate on that, Put a little pinch between your cheek
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  Speaker 2: and gum and give it a chew for a few minutes,
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  Speaker 2: and then let's discuss it. Four to three four were
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  Speaker 2: eight A two four to two one seven text message
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  Speaker 2: or phone call regardless or irregardless if you prefer. Today
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  Speaker 2: is the culmination of Virginia's forty five day long voting
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  Speaker 2: cycle for the redistricting referendum, eighty three million dollars have
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  Speaker 2: been spent and one point three million people have already voted.
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  Speaker 2: According to an organization called the Virginia Public Access Project,
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  Speaker 2: of the sixty four million dollars that had been expended
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  Speaker 2: up through the end of the last quarter on promoting yes,
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  Speaker 2: only three percent of that money came from inside the state.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of inside the state and losing control over whatever
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  Speaker 2: liberties you might have had, Iran has turned loose its
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  Speaker 2: hardline factions known as militia and are now operating with
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  Speaker 2: decentralized command structure. Meanwhile, JD Vance is Islamabad. He might
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  Speaker 2: be there just talking with a couple of folks, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So how's the curry here? I don't know. Because Iran
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  Speaker 2: says we're not going now, that doesn't mean they don't
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  Speaker 2: show up there in a little while. It's a little
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  Speaker 2: shorter flight from Tehran to Islamabad. Mohammed Baguer Khaliba, the
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  Speaker 2: chief negotiator and parliament speaker, wrote on x early this morning,
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  Speaker 2: we do not accept negotiations under the shadow of threats.
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  Speaker 2: President Trump had said that if they didn't get back
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  Speaker 2: and negotiate in good faith, the bombs would start falling again.
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  Speaker 2: Labor Secretary Laurie Chavez Darima is out as President Trump's
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  Speaker 2: labor secretary. Another one of the Trump cabinet that's been
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  Speaker 2: accused of, let's see, abusing power over her staff, including
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  Speaker 2: having an affair within a subordinate and drinking alcohol on
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  Speaker 2: the job. Sounds like what they accused them all of.
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  Speaker 2: At some point, Tim Cook is out as Apple chief
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  Speaker 2: executive officer, turning over the rains of the company to
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  Speaker 2: its head of hardware engineering, John Turnus. That transition happens
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  Speaker 2: from now till September one. Cook will stay on as
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  Speaker 2: executive chair. Monday morning, the US Treasury started rolling back
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty six billion dollars in tariffs to
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  Speaker 2: companies who paid those admissions for importing goods. No word
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  Speaker 2: on how that's going to get back to the consumers
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  Speaker 2: that had to pay it. An FBI director, Cash Battel
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  Speaker 2: has sued the Atlantic for defamation.
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  Speaker 1: First thing today by Joe Thomas on the dunk Manion Network.
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  Speaker 9: I'm afraid of us.
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  Speaker 14: I can't sleep at like it.
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  Speaker 19: I'm so afraid of the Russians.
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  Speaker 14: Afraid We've got to fight.
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  Speaker 20: The first one being demoralization. It takes from fifteen to
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  Speaker 20: twenty years to demoralize the nation. Why that many years,
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  Speaker 20: because this is the minimum number of years which requires
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  Speaker 20: to educate one generation of students in the country of
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  Speaker 20: your enemy, exposed to the ideology of the enemy.
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  Speaker 15: And I was Marxist men Inism.
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  Speaker 20: Ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at
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  Speaker 20: least three generations of American students.
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  Speaker 2: Now, that was in nineteen eighty four. Several generations have
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  Speaker 2: come and gone, passed through the intestical walls of our
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  Speaker 2: educational system and out the other end on final exercises day,
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  Speaker 2: little turds full of what they think their knowledge and
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  Speaker 2: a cap stuck to the top of them, but those
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  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four a couple of points from that, and
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  Speaker 2: I always like to bring this up. Those Uri beisement Off,
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  Speaker 2: former KGB officer Communications propaganda Lackey for the Soviet Union
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  Speaker 2: upon his defection, told us that first Joe McCarthy was right,
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  Speaker 2: he might have been wrong on how to adjudicate it.
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  Speaker 2: And that's where we want go next. So the soft
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  Speaker 2: heads of America's school children in nineteen eighty four had
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  Speaker 2: been subjected to three generations of fairness. Fairness is a
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  Speaker 2: trope of Marxism. Everything should be fair, everything should be equal,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like animal farm. As Napoleon said, some animals
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  Speaker 2: are more equal than others. And that's when it comes apart.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, that's the problem with Marxism, is that we're
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  Speaker 2: not all equal and things aren't always fair. But fairness
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  Speaker 2: is having its heyday right now. Virginia is not the
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  Speaker 2: only place where fairness is showing up as a matter
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  Speaker 2: of public policy. And this is where I want to
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  Speaker 2: question it, because fairness has come up in jurisprudence. Fairness
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  Speaker 2: has come up and proposed laws, and here in Virginia,
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  Speaker 2: the referendum that we're voting on fairness right in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of it. Do you vote yes to allow Virginia's
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  Speaker 2: General Assembly to redraw our congressional lines and bring back fairness? Well?
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  Speaker 2: Who could vote against fairness? I mean, I went through
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  Speaker 2: elementary school just like all the other kids, and I
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  Speaker 2: was taught that fairness and motherly. Russia was a wonderful,
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  Speaker 2: warm place. So you have a law that, if it
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  Speaker 2: goes into effect, will insist upon fairness, that the whole
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  Speaker 2: point of the law is to bring about fairness. How
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  Speaker 2: do you adjudicate that? Because if you have a law,
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  Speaker 2: the law is established to keep somebody from breaking it,
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  Speaker 2: to establish the punishments for breaking it. Correct, So how
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  Speaker 2: can you have a law saying that you have to
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  Speaker 2: be fair? This falls under the same heading of the
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  Speaker 2: people who say that you have a right to healthcare,
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  Speaker 2: or you have a right to housing, or you have
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  Speaker 2: the right to a living wage. How is it adjudicated?
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  Speaker 2: How do you make it happen? You have the police
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  Speaker 2: drive around in priuses handing out tickets for people who
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  Speaker 2: still drive chevies. How do you determine when someone has
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  Speaker 2: been unjustly treated under a fairness doctrine?
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  Speaker 14: Huh?
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  Speaker 2: A police officer gets I'm sorry to get what I
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  Speaker 2: thought I deserved. Go arrest him? Why him? Because he
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  Speaker 2: asked what I wanted. That's what you're going to wind
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  Speaker 2: up with, is you're going to wind up with people
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  Speaker 2: who are calling the gen Domrie to come in and
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  Speaker 2: arrest their neighbors because they have better stuff than you do.
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  Speaker 2: Ellen writes Into four three four eight eight two four
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  Speaker 2: two one seven. If fairness is on the national level,
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  Speaker 2: it has no business being voted on as a state issue.
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  Speaker 2: Scott in Virginia Beach. The language of any referendum is
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be neutral. Just one more example of how
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  Speaker 2: crooked this process has been. And it is supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be clear. A law needs to be based in clarity.
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  Speaker 2: You can't have ambiguity and law because that's when fascism
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  Speaker 2: walks in.
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  Speaker 19: And the.
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  Speaker 2: Idea of invoking this fairness no one has been able
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  Speaker 2: to articulate exactly how that would be adjudicated or even proven.
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  Speaker 2: So you get dragged into a police show up at
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  Speaker 2: your door right up can and say it's the police,
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  Speaker 2: and now you're in the police station being charged with
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  Speaker 2: violation of somebody's fairness. How do you defend yourself? How
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  Speaker 2: do you go and say, no, your honor, I was
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  Speaker 2: actually fair. What evidence do you need to bring into
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  Speaker 2: court to prove your fairness? Are there wounds somewhere that
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  Speaker 2: the medical examiner can look at to say, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: don't see this stuff here. That's an indication of unfair treatment.
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  Speaker 2: Because we're going right now, we're only at the beginning.
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  Speaker 7: We're at the crossroots.
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  Speaker 2: To the right, back to liberty to the left to
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  Speaker 2: the twilight zone. Because if you go to the left
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  Speaker 2: and you allow things like fairness to become a manner
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  Speaker 2: of municipal policy, well they can arrest you for any
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  Speaker 2: damn thing. If a citizen of Portland, Oregon has a
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  Speaker 2: right to a job and you don't give them one,
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  Speaker 2: damn it, you're going to be sought after by the
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  Speaker 2: law enforcement Greenwich, Connecticut. If you don't enact fairness, if
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  Speaker 2: you're not being fair to somebody, you could go to
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  Speaker 2: jail and the person still doesn't have any fairness on
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  Speaker 2: the street either. By the way, but how what evidence
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  Speaker 2: do you do you need to bring in there? What
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  Speaker 2: is your defense attorney supposed to work off of? This
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  Speaker 2: is like saying I want to build this house. I
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  Speaker 2: want to build this house of red bricks and mortar,
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  Speaker 2: and it's going to be great. We're gonna have plaster walls.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be literally the brick Beep House. But
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  Speaker 2: we're going to build it in quicksand Oops. Didn't think
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  Speaker 2: about that. We're going to build it right over a sinkhole.
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  Speaker 7: Oops.
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  Speaker 29: All right, thanks to our friends at Channel nine. And
• 29:34
  Speaker 29: I doubled across this this morning, and there's no way
• 29:37
  Speaker 29: I was not going to bring it to the table.
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  Speaker 29: Much more important than a draft night and NBA playoffs,
• 29:42
  Speaker 29: which will talk about next hour anyway. But they got
• 29:47
  Speaker 29: the guy. They found the guy. Pasha Polinker is his name.
• 29:51
  Speaker 29: A skydiver, seventeen year Army veteran, retired immigrant. He suffered
• 29:56
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  Speaker 29: and Africa, a couple of purple hearts, a bronze star
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  Speaker 29: with Valerie, faced a suicide bomber, he got blown up.
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  Speaker 29: I stood on top of an ied that launched him
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  Speaker 29: twenty five feet in the air. But when he hit
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  Speaker 29: the scoreboard on Saturday, and if you missed the story yesterday,
• 30:16
  Speaker 29: Pasha was parachuting in with a partner carrying an eleven
• 30:22
  Speaker 29: hundred foot American flag with a twenty six foot weight
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  Speaker 29: on it, and he hit the scoreboard, ended up spraining
• 30:28
  Speaker 29: his shoulder. He says, guy, I felt like I got
• 30:31
  Speaker 29: hit by a train.
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  Speaker 2: But this guy, basically he got hit by a stadium. Yeah,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: he got hit by a state, by a jumbo tron,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: by a big screen.
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  Speaker 18: Right.
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  Speaker 29: So anyway, in the interview, and we'll have more on
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  Speaker 29: this with Foston friends this week for sure, because we're
• 30:45
  Speaker 29: going to wrap up spring weekends. But I've never seen
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  Speaker 29: anything like it. But Pasha is an amazing gentleman.
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  Speaker 22: I'm doing really well. It's all relative. Could have gone
• 30:53
  Speaker 22: a lot worse, but I'm just I'm grateful to be here.
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  Speaker 22: I feel blessed. It's not the first time that I
• 30:59
  Speaker 22: walked away from something that I shouldn't have And you know,
• 31:03
  Speaker 22: my family and friends keep telling me that I should
• 31:05
  Speaker 22: stop pushing that luck.
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  Speaker 29: And so it's nothing new for him, he said, it's
• 31:08
  Speaker 29: nothing new jumping into stadiums.
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  Speaker 2: He does it all the time.
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  Speaker 29: He gets asked to do it the air shows and everything.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: So it's nothing new for him.
• 31:16
  Speaker 29: So what he said on Saturday, they had judged the wind.
• 31:19
  Speaker 29: They had no idea he was going to get a
• 31:22
  Speaker 29: big wind gust. He said, the forecast didn't call for
• 31:24
  Speaker 29: wind gusts. And he said, so the wind changed and
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  Speaker 29: he goes Sometimes when you parachute You can't argue with
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  Speaker 29: mother nature.
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  Speaker 14: You can't train for a moment like this.
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  Speaker 22: I mean, we train for a lot of things, but
• 31:36
  Speaker 22: there's not much you can do once nature takes it
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  Speaker 22: its course. Because the wind picked up a lot more
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  Speaker 22: than what it was supposed to be. I was going
• 31:45
  Speaker 22: to land in the stands just short of the field,
• 31:48
  Speaker 22: and that flag you can't tell. That flag's eleven hundred
• 31:50
  Speaker 22: square feet and it's anchored by twenty six pounds weight.
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  Speaker 22: So I was going to hurt myself in the fence
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  Speaker 22: in attendance. So I just ad to land off off
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  Speaker 22: the stadium. There was an open field right near there.
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  Speaker 22: But then as I was making the turn, another wind
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  Speaker 22: Gus came in and that's where you see slamming me
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  Speaker 22: into the jump a tronk.
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  Speaker 29: Yeah, sometimes you just I said, you can't fight with
• 32:15
  Speaker 29: mother nature, right, and so he was.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: He was going to. So the wind didn't the first win.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: The first problem was going to actually put him down
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: on top of fans in the stands, And so he
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: was right.
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  Speaker 29: He had two decisions to make. The wind was fine,
• 32:31
  Speaker 29: everything was judged. He was going to come in you know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 29: circle land. He's done in one hundred times okay, but
• 32:38
  Speaker 29: then the wind shear close. When he got to the scoreboard,
• 32:42
  Speaker 29: the wind shear came up, and he said, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 29: I got to make a decision. And so he had
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  Speaker 29: a guy behind him who got who had time to
• 32:50
  Speaker 29: go to the open field? Well, possibly didn't really have
• 32:53
  Speaker 29: time to get to the open field. So he said
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  Speaker 29: he saw the stands were full of its forty thousand
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  Speaker 29: some people there for the Tech Spring game. He goes,
• 33:02
  Speaker 29: I can't I can't take this in with the flag
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  Speaker 29: and everything and land on fans. I don't know where
• 33:07
  Speaker 29: I'm going to end up. So I'm going to try too.
• 33:09
  Speaker 29: I'm going to try to get to the scoreboard at least,
• 33:13
  Speaker 29: And that's what. Yeah, that was his decision. And so anyway,
• 33:18
  Speaker 29: he put this interview on Channel nine. He said, skydiving
• 33:21
  Speaker 29: is really important to me, and I'm going to continue.
• 33:25
  Speaker 22: Skydiving has played a huge role in my life, and
• 33:27
  Speaker 22: especially doing these demonstration dumps. So I'm an immigrant, I
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  Speaker 22: came here as a kid. I joined the military out
• 33:33
  Speaker 22: of gratitude to the station. While serving, I've been wounded
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  Speaker 22: twice in combat. I've recovered physically from all that. But
• 33:40
  Speaker 22: when I retired, I struggled badly with PTSD and mental health,
• 33:44
  Speaker 22: and skydiving became one of my lifelines. And then once
• 33:47
  Speaker 22: I discovered my parachute team, it filled up Voyd left
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  Speaker 22: by doing dangerous missions in the military, and also the
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  Speaker 22: brotherhood that I get with my teammates, That's how I
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  Speaker 22: got into it. And then also the tremendous sense of
• 34:02
  Speaker 22: pride playing an American flag into a packed stadium.
• 34:05
  Speaker 29: You know, if parachuting gets you through PTSD, You've got stones.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I've got to say. Well, you know, but
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: here's this is one of the most important stories. You know,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: and I know we get lost in the tributaries of
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the minutia these you know, Oh, it's a referendum on
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  Speaker 2: But so brother has come back from theater with with
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: a problem that I think afflicts way more veterans than
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: we know. Correct, and we see twenty two veterans taking
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: their lives on a daily basis. Correct, this guy, you know,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: more than this, he needs to be out there showing
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the world that, you know, you can get past these
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: dark minutes and find find that purpose that you know,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: that he's very eloquently talked about losing when he got
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: out of the theater. Yeah, he has that's so well put.
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  Speaker 1: Joe.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: He has a video which I found. I watched the
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: whole five minute video.
• 35:11
  Speaker 29: It's on YouTube and it's called they have a series
• 35:13
  Speaker 29: called Triumph to Trauma or Triumph from Trauma, and he
• 35:18
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• 35:18
  Speaker 14: So I went to his.
• 35:19
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• 35:23
  Speaker 29: water sports. And here was his post on he goes
• 35:26
  Speaker 29: I was standing over a massy vied made from five
• 35:29
  Speaker 29: one hundred and fifty five millimeters artillery shells when it detonated.
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  Speaker 29: I was launched twenty feet into the air. By the
• 35:35
  Speaker 29: grace of God, I walked away. Since that day, I've
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  Speaker 29: been blessed with two decades of life. I could have
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  Speaker 29: lost time with my wife and our boys, the friendships
• 35:44
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• 35:46
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• 35:48
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• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Wow, it just you know, pardon me.
• 35:53
  Speaker 29: After our segment here at seven forty four five, I'm
• 35:57
  Speaker 29: gonna probably start crying.
• 36:00
  Speaker 14: But I've got the I got the video.
• 36:02
  Speaker 29: I'm gonna put it on my Facebook page as well
• 36:05
  Speaker 29: because of the whole video of what happened. But his
• 36:08
  Speaker 29: interview was he was he was in a sling, and uh,
• 36:11
  Speaker 29: you know, so Channel nine asked him, said, you know
• 36:14
  Speaker 29: you're in a sling, how are he goes? You know,
• 36:16
  Speaker 29: I banged up my shoulder. It's not the first time,
• 36:19
  Speaker 29: you know, because if you're jumping out of a plane,
• 36:22
  Speaker 29: you know, I mean, and you land you a lot
• 36:25
  Speaker 29: of times. Yeah, you don't know what the wind is
• 36:28
  Speaker 29: going to do, and so you are affected by you know,
• 36:31
  Speaker 29: certain things. But I I just thought this was I
• 36:34
  Speaker 29: mean a seventeen year I just thought it was great.
• 36:36
  Speaker 14: And uh for him to you know, come.
• 36:38
  Speaker 29: Forward, I had said on Monday, Well, I said on Monday,
• 36:41
  Speaker 29: somewhere there's got to be an interview with this guy.
• 36:43
  Speaker 29: Somewhere there's a reaction. And sure enough, I just I
• 36:46
  Speaker 29: googled him this morning and boomed, there it was. And
• 36:49
  Speaker 29: I struck gold because a lot of people won't be
• 36:52
  Speaker 29: searching for Pasha Palanker today, even though he is all
• 36:56
  Speaker 29: all over the web, and it's just you know, it's
• 36:58
  Speaker 29: a terrific story.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Said wonderful story, my God, thank you for sure. Yeah,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: And so because he was so good.
• 37:05
  Speaker 29: He goes, look and he goes, this, this is not
• 37:08
  Speaker 29: the first time this has happening.
• 37:09
  Speaker 22: Yeah, it just and it took me a second to
• 37:12
  Speaker 22: realize where I was and what was going on. The
• 37:14
  Speaker 22: wind was knocked out of me, my back, my neck,
• 37:17
  Speaker 22: everything was was feeling the pain and and and something
• 37:21
  Speaker 22: happened to my left shoulder. I am just grateful to
• 37:23
  Speaker 22: be here.
• 37:24
  Speaker 14: All of this will heal.
• 37:25
  Speaker 22: It's not my first time being in this thing, and
• 37:27
  Speaker 22: probably not my last.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Sounds like it. Man, oh man, you know, I.
• 37:34
  Speaker 29: You know, I scratch my I scratched my arm on
• 37:36
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  Speaker 2: It, you know, and you call in sick for a week,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: you know, like I can't work, Joe, I can't do
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  Speaker 2: sports this morning, okay, But I mean the work he's
• 37:47
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• 37:51
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  Speaker 2: home from the service. That guy's got to be got
• 37:57
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  Speaker 1: The First Thing Today on the Talk Media Network by
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  Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, the second most famous Thomas and Charlottesville.
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  Speaker 2: So our next contributor. We've decided that the cool kids
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  Speaker 2: on the interwebs call everybody a content creator that or
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  Speaker 2: a social media influencer. I guess if I'm a content creator,
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  Speaker 2: then he's an influencer. But he gives me grief because
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  Speaker 2: his name is Thomas and he's from Central Virginia. But
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  Speaker 2: he is actually from the Cuckoo Louisa Bumpus Metroplex, not
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  Speaker 2: from Charlottesville as I am. So that's how I can
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  Speaker 2: lay claim to be the second greatest one from Charlottesville.
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  Speaker 2: But he is a former congressman now leader of the
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  Speaker 2: pack uh in the back there in the Virginia General
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  Speaker 2: Assembly trying to fight this redistricting referendum. He is Thomas
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  Speaker 2: Garrett Tom. What's going on, sir.
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  Speaker 14: Joe Thomas.
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  Speaker 19: I'm gonna just take the micro resting control of the microphone.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I have questions. We have questions. We
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  Speaker 2: have we have questions that must be answered.
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  Speaker 19: First of all, I'm from the I'm from the Bumpus
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  Speaker 19: in as Cuckoo Holly Grove, quad Cities Metroplex.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, second dead name you, Yeah.
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  Speaker 19: That's the quad Cities Metroplex. Don't don't miss geography me.
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  Speaker 19: Second of all, you're like the third or fourth most
• 45:49
  Speaker 19: famous Tom and Charlottesville because we got to get around
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  Speaker 19: Perry Ello, right, they drew him a congressional district, so
• 45:56
  Speaker 19: he must be pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Famous, well, at least in the Obama fan he is,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: and with George Sorows until Alex came along and kicked
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  Speaker 2: him out. So a couple of quickly so so Tom
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  Speaker 2: is a defense attorney along with being a legislator and
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: as we were discussing this referendum that's coming to its culmination,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: and we're going to I don't know what all these
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: restaurants are going to do. All this national news media
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: is going to immediately drive south to Florida as soon
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: as the votes are cast in this thing, because the
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: drive by media, that's what they do. And the next
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: shiny object will be Florida and Ron Desandis's attempt to
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: do district changes there. But one of the questions that
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: came up in this is the word fairness. Now, if
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: you were a defense attorney, let's say I hired you.
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  Speaker 2: What's the number, by the way, if you were injured
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  Speaker 2: at No.
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  Speaker 14: Four four?
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  Speaker 19: And I prefer to think of myself as a civil
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  Speaker 19: rights attorney because I defend your right to do process,
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  Speaker 19: right to representation, to confront accusers. But anyway, eight four
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  Speaker 19: eight sixty nine four four, I am a man of
• 47:05
  Speaker 19: many hats.
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  Speaker 2: So under that hat, if if you had a client
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  Speaker 2: call you and say, Tom, I've been accused of violating
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  Speaker 2: somebody's fairness, how do you I don't know how you
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  Speaker 2: make fairness a staple of a law. So can you
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  Speaker 2: let's take.
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  Speaker 14: Down a little deeper.
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  Speaker 19: What Joe's talking about is on the referendum upon which
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  Speaker 19: Virginians will be voting today, and probably.
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  Speaker 14: It takes them to get to the number they like.
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  Speaker 19: The wording of the referendum is in order to restore fairness. Now,
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  Speaker 19: there have been sixteen seventeen now with Florida, different states
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  Speaker 19: that have contemplated doing redistricting. Let's not miss the lead
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  Speaker 19: that when Texas did it, it was actually conkelled by
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  Speaker 19: a court and then Trump hamdhandedly said, hey, grab me
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  Speaker 19: some extra congressional seats. Probably could have done that a
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  Speaker 19: little better, but we don't have a time machine, although
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  Speaker 19: I hear Trump's working on it. And so they're going
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  Speaker 19: to restore fairness by taking a state that's fifty five
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  Speaker 19: five as it relates to its votes in a good
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  Speaker 19: day for the Democrats, right it's a plus five and
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  Speaker 19: maybe plus ten on a good day, and they're going
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  Speaker 19: to make it ten to one. Right now, it's six
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  Speaker 19: to five, tragically in the wrong direction, but that's actually
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  Speaker 19: representative of the democracy here. So that wording they uses
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  Speaker 19: to restore fairness. Now, there is court precedence that suggests
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  Speaker 19: that you may not use persuasive language on a ballot referendum.
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  Speaker 14: If in order to restore fairness is.
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  Speaker 19: Not persuasive language, I do not know if I've ever
• 48:29
  Speaker 19: heard persuasive language. So there are any number of reasons
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  Speaker 19: that the Supreme Court of Virginia should.
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  Speaker 14: Throw this out. They should have already.
• 48:36
  Speaker 19: They said there's no standing until after there's a harm,
• 48:38
  Speaker 19: so that you would have to have the Democrats win
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  Speaker 19: and then they'll rule. Bad news is that the Supreme
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  Speaker 19: Court justices in Virginia are appointed by a general Assembly
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  Speaker 19: which has a near supermajority of Democrats in the House
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  Speaker 19: of Delegates. So will they have the courage to do
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  Speaker 19: what is right at the risk of their black robes
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  Speaker 19: and their titles? I certainly hope so good men and
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  Speaker 19: women on that court, So can we can hope upon that?
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  Speaker 19: But let's just win the darn thing and then it
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  Speaker 19: doesn't matter. This is I'll tell you one more thing
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  Speaker 19: that really gets lost in the national narrative.
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  Speaker 2: Shoe.
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  Speaker 19: It's not o Texas did at first. Of all the
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  Speaker 19: states that have done this, the only one that had
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  Speaker 19: a constitutional amendment ensuring that there would be nonpartisan redistricting
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  Speaker 19: was Virginia. So they had to temporarily suspend the Constitution
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  Speaker 19: and throw out about four different laws yep. One said
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  Speaker 19: no partisan jerry entering. Literally you can't make drisks of
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  Speaker 19: districts to favor one party or the other. Another said
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  Speaker 19: that the district should be geographically compact and represent communities
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  Speaker 19: of interest. All of these are thrown out. So Virginia
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  Speaker 19: is unique because we had to amend our constitution temporarily.
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  Speaker 19: Wink wink, they'll amend it back. They promised. They think
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  Speaker 19: you swear. So yeah, there's no way this should be
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  Speaker 19: happening in Virginia. I tip my hat to the courageous
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  Speaker 19: men and women in Indiana who did the right thing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and here's the fun fact about the temporary part
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: of this. And Barack Obama loves to squeeze the word
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  Speaker 2: temporary into everything. I think he set it in the
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  Speaker 2: midst of singing the wheels on the bus temporarily go
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  Speaker 2: round and round.
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  Speaker 14: Phil The.
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  Speaker 2: Idea of temporary is six years minimum, six years, if
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: not longer.
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  Speaker 19: Right, And if this works, then there's a precedent set, right.
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  Speaker 19: I think procedure matters, process matters. If this works, there's
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  Speaker 19: a precedent set. So the president is whenever we want
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  Speaker 19: to will temporarily suspend and drow outlaws.
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  Speaker 14: Well, why have a constitution if it's temporary.
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  Speaker 2: There are countries that do this, Tom, you've you've chronicled
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  Speaker 2: a lot of this in filming your documentary Exile. They're
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  Speaker 2: they're generally called third world dictatorships where the generalissimo doesn't
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  Speaker 2: like something so he throws it all out and says,
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  Speaker 2: I'm still president for life. And so that's where we're heading.
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  Speaker 19: It's not hyperbolic. It's absolutely not hyperbolic. Right, So you know,
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  Speaker 19: if you're listening to this and you're in the Commwealth
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  Speaker 19: of Virginia and you haven't gone out and voted no yet,
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  Speaker 19: you need to go out. Your vote absolutely positively.
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  Speaker 14: Matters, literally and for all the folks.
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  Speaker 2: And we just cromed different.
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  Speaker 19: Languages so we can pick up the illigue aliens.
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  Speaker 2: He might be listening, Bill, Well, I'm talking to the
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  Speaker 2: folks who don't live in Virginia. Because ninety seven percent
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  Speaker 2: of the money that went to the vote Yes campaign
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  Speaker 2: came from places like Youngstown, Ohio, and Chicago, Illinois, and
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  Speaker 2: Cremao and China.
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  Speaker 19: Yeah, where I don't know if they listen anyway, but
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  Speaker 19: the people are like, oh no, dude, No five OHO
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  Speaker 19: one C four advocacy money is a loophole. The dark
• 51:41
  Speaker 19: money that they've used, one hundred million dollars that they
• 51:44
  Speaker 19: use can't be tracked. And so Ohio passed the law
• 51:48
  Speaker 19: that said you can't use foreign money to do issue advocacy,
• 51:51
  Speaker 19: which is tighter than the federal law. Praise God, good
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  Speaker 19: for Ohio. And suddenly all the money that was going
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  Speaker 19: to things like No King's rallies and not all of it,
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  Speaker 19: but hyperbolically speaking and anti life rallies, et cetera, just disappeared.
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  Speaker 19: So I mean, walk that dog backwards, right. We have
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  Speaker 19: Malian influencers who seek not to advance issues, but instead
• 52:14
  Speaker 19: to pit Americans one against the other. I was speaking
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  Speaker 14: And he said yes. And I said did they spend.
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  Speaker 14: And he said yes.
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  Speaker 19: And I said, so the goal was not actually to
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  Speaker 19: and that's what's going on here, right. We are turning
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  Speaker 19: our democracy into a sham for the temporary convenience.
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