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85. [South Carolina] Murdaugh Murders - Paul and Maggie · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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Hey, everyone, welcome to bless us mess of grand podcast. I don't
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care here was students, douy. Alright, so we're back with you.
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We're finishing up our series on the Murdoch Murders because we're just a bunch of
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basic bitches and everybody else was doing it, so why not us. Anyways,
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Um, tonight we're covering Paul and Maggie and basically the finale to this
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current times of Alex Murdoch and his hideous family. That's what we're covering tonight.
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So if you miss the other ones, go back. We did Mallory
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the previous episode, and then Stephen and Gloria for the first episode. But
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I don't think that be in the list of the podcast episode. Yes,
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it would steward to be in the list of the podcast episodes. I'm just
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telling people, we don't know who's new here. We don't know you're you're
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stupid anyways, all right, So, um, anything new with us?
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Our bathroom model remodel is still ongoing. Well, I don't know how long.
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What kind of required all these podcasts in three days? Okay? Well,
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no, it's we're thirty days in. Yes, we're a month into
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what was supposed to be at ten to fourteen day remodel. I mean I
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thought ten days was being optimistic, but I thought maybe two to two to
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three weeks tops. But no, they were going to destroyed the tile job
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in the shower. They had to purchase on their own dime, all new
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tile for the shower, all new tile for the shower floor. Anyways,
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were we're di I wires. This was a huge ordeal for us. We
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are not like people that just go and like pay people to do stuff.
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This was something that was like way beyond our capabilities. But most of the
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time we do stuff on our own. So anyway, so this I've had
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an anxiety about doing this. That's why we put it off and put it
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off because I'm afraid to pay people money and then it be terrible. And
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now it's all happening, like it's all happening but in a bad way.
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Still don't know what that means. We were just watching it. We were
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watching the old episode. We were watching She's still married to Shay. I'm
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watching I don't know, old episodes of vander pump Rolls to see the little
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easter eggs of how uh Tom Sandival is going to screw over Arianna and sleep
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with Rachel. I mean Roquell. Her name's bitch's name is Rachel. She
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just when she came on the show, her name was rock Hill. You
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know. Yeah, they do that anyways. But hopefully the bathroom is supposed
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to be done. And I will never pay another human being to ever do
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anything for us ever. Again. This is the second time we've been screwed.
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I was just going to say, I told you so. What do
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you mean you told me so? Anyways, I digress from that catastrophe that
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is currently happening with us, and um, so let's just move on to
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a different catastrophe, stew that is the Murdoch family. Yes, how Alec
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is his name Alex Alex. I will not call him Alec. I will
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not give him the um what is the word I'm looking for? Yeah,
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Murdoch and he want they want to go buy Murdocks or coming. So yeah,
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we'll get into it tonight. We'll cover Paul and Maggie and do you
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that's not happening at night or this night or this night or Stu hates that
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when I say reference the time of day, No don't, Yes you do.
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Every time I say let's get into this episode tonight, you're like,
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You're like, just stop, why do you say tonight? No I don't,
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Yes you do? You do? All right, So we made the
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executive decision to stop that childlike, no, no, I don't, Yes
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you do, and let's start. So. Margaret Maggie Kennedy Murdoch Nay Brandsteader
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was born September fifteenth, nineteen sixty eight, to Kennedy and Terry Brandsteader in
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Nashville, Tennessee. She would attend the University of South Carolina, where she
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would meet her future husband Alex Murdoch. A fate, a day of infamy,
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Stuart, is that what they say? So for a lot of people,
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yes, that's where their life ended was when these two assholes met.
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I'm sure things would have turned out how he met some others. I don't
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know. I think maybe, I think maybe Glory Mario was a direct um
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casualty casualty of this this bitch. Anyways, but can you It's so funny
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to think that there's two people meeting somewhere right now and they're going to have
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they're going to be the cause of your death. You know, like there's
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two people. Well no, I'm just saying in general, just like the
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big picture, it's like it sets into motion. There's things that take decades
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and it leads to your demise. The other two dummies that met nice then
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they started podcasting. Yeah this is true, and now it's you guys as
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demise as you. So anyways, she met alex Murdoch, so together they
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would have two sons, Alexander Murdoch Junior, who went by Buster and Terry
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Paul Murdoch who went by Paul. But Paulus, Oh my god, stop
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no Jesus Christ. Paul was born in April fourteenth, nineteen ninety nine,
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in Hampton, South Carolina. Now in June seven, twenty twenty one,
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at ten twenty one pm. Now we're we're talking like this because if you
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if you're if you're like behind and you don't know anything, like go back
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and listen to the previous episodes. That's all I can tell you. They
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can be standalone episodes, but your best listening to previous episodes. So anyway,
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So on that day, June seventh, twenty one, a call came
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in from Alex Murdock to nine one one. He is hysterical. He's asking
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for police and an ambulance at forty one forty seven Mozelle Drive in Coleton County,
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South Carolina. He tells the operator, my wife and child have been
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shot badly. He tells her they are not breathing, and she asked if
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he saw anyone and he says no. Well, the police and the paramedics.
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They arrive at the scene at around ten twenty five pms. This is
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real quick turnaround and they find Paul and Maggie dead. Now, Paul was
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laying halfway in the kennels while Maggie was about fifteen away. Because this is
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a big, big, sprawling property. Um, I think we might get
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into it a little bit later, but it's over seventeen hundred acres, huge
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property. We talked about it a lot in the last episode. And so
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there's kennels like you have to drive to get yeah, yeah, you gotta
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load up and go places. So these kennels were over in another area so
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Paul's Paul's body is laying halfway in the kennels while Maggie was about fifteen fifteen
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feet away from him, and both had multiple gunshot wounds. Now, upon
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initial investigation, they could see that Paul had been shot in the head area,
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while Maggie had been shot multiple times. They know she was in the
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back and everything that, but well she was trying to run. Yeah,
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but we'll get into that. And also, I would just like to end
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this is our disclaimer. We know that there have been people dedicating their entire
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lives to this for the last couple I know, we've already told you you
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gotta go back. You'll you'll learn nothing new here. Okay, we might
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get some stuff wrong. Who knows, We don't know. Okay, there's
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so much information for these people, Like I I pride myself in doing like
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good research and everything, but these I mean, you have to you did
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have You would have to dedicate your whole entire life to researching these people because
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there's so much information, because they're that terrible of people, and there's just
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endless information about them, so and all the shitty things they have done.
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Yeah, So we're just we're summarizing what's going on and everything like that,
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and then but yeah, we understand, like there's there's so much information on
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this and it's and there's other podcast and TV show nothing about these people.
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Well, police interview Alex since he's the only one at the scene, and
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he tells police that around seven pm he took a nap and he walked up
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around seven thirty. I mean, who the hell takes a half hour nap
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at seven I know this is something if you're going to if you're gonna napping
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at seven pm, that's like a real hard decision, Like am I gonna
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take a nap or I'm just gonna go to bed. I'm just gonna go
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to bed. Yeah, I'm going to bed. I might stay up till
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seven thirty and then call it on it. I mean, I feel like
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if you make it pass four thirty PM and you have not made the decision
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to take a nap, you've made it. You've entered into like I'm just
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gonna go to bed early. Like you're either going to take a nap before
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four thirty or you're going to bed early. You can't do both, say
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before two, No, I think you could. I think I'm okay with
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like a three to four pm nap and you can still go to bed at
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like nine or ten. Well, how long is your nap? How one
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are you gonna wake up? Three to four? Wake up befour? You
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mean wake up at four? Yes? I thought you meant if you happen.
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Oh no, No, I mean like four thirties, like cut off,
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Like if you're not up by four thirty. Yeah, if you're not
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up by four thirty, then you're you're not going to bed. You're gonna
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be up till freaking one two o'clock in the morning, just watering around the
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house, meandering around like, oh my god, why did I take that
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nap? So, yeah, seven pm nap, that's not even that's a
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rich person problem right there, because you've done nothing all day. Yeah,
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you've done nothing. You're like, fuck it, I'll just take a nap
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at seven pm doing nothing. That's hard, that's far. This is rich
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people problems. I don't know, I've done nothing all day before and I
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was for a nap. I just went to bed earlier though. Yeah,
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that's what I'm saying. Like a rich person, they're like, I don't
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have anything to do tomorrow. I got all this money, I'll just take
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a nap. Yeah, my big ass seventeen hundred acres. Now, Alex
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says he didn't seek Paul or Maggie, and like, no, shit,
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why would you see him? You went down take a half at seven pm.
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Maybe they went to bed early, or maybe they went to do something.
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Okay, well that's fine, of course you wouldn't see. I was
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just saying, well, no, you might see somebody at seven thirty store.
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I don't know what your thing is that I don't do we not do
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we become invisible? I don't know. This is your your luxury what you
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call it, your vacation house on seventeen hundred acres. Don't they have another
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house somewhere else? They have a main house, they have this house.
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They definitely have a beach house that I know of, because that's where we'll
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get into it later. That old Maggie was living was the beach house.
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But yeah, it's a big property. So for him not to see anybody
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is not out of the norm, like they could be anywhere. Yeah,
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on the seventeen hundred acres doing god knows what, hunting, fishing, killings.
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Can't say that killing, sex workers can't say prostituts no anyway, Alex
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just assumed that the wife and the kid were somewhere out on the property.
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He said that he texted him around eight or five pm saying that he was
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going out to his parents' house. His father was gravely ill and his mother
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was suffering from dementia, So he heads to their home. You know,
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if he wasn't such a terrible person, I'd feel sorry for him. But
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I don't why because his father's ill and his mother has dementias? Do they
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do they really? Now? He heads to their home and spends a few
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hours, according to him, He then heads back to the Moselle property and
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arrives at about ten pm. He heads over to the kennel area, which
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is a short drive away on the property, where he finds Maggie and Paul.
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Alex is very I could have After a police arrive and he tells him
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that he believes that someone murdered Paul over the boat accident, the one that
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had killed Mallory Beach, and he tells him that he was not He's almost
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positive it was something somebody that was mad about that, but he's not sure
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who it could be. Yeah, he just knows that he's been getting threats
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or people are very upset about this because it has been two years and everything
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like that. But he just doesn't know who the actual person. Yeah,
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because because this boat accident quotation marks accident, it is an accident. He
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wasn't intentional. Well, this could have all been prevented. However, Okay,
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this accident could have been prevented. However, this is the one thing
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that starts drawn. Yes, they can. That's why we have safety briefings.
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So that's why this one can want to get into safety briefings. Do
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you want to get into safety brief yes, I would love to. Please
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tell me more. Start your safety brief briefing. Don't add to the population,
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don't reduce from the population. Don't end up in the newspaper, the
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hospital or jel and if you do end up in jail, established established dominance
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quickly. Really. Yeah, that's the safety work. That's a safety briefing.
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That's for all of you people today. Why can't you add to the
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population. You don't want to add to the that's the safety briefing today.
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Don't knock anybody up. Well, you must have missed that safety briefing.
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At least twice. I did. No, you missed the safety briefing.
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There should have been a safety briefing that day both days. Yes, we
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love the little, precious little nuggets to death. Though Alex has telling police
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that Paul had received numerous death roats over this boating accident, however, none
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of them seem credible. He then lets them know that he touched the bodies
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and that he had brought a gun out from his home to the scene.
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Why would you bring a gun out there? Well, you're just on you're
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out in South Carolina. That's just standard. You put your I mean,
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I don't understand why you tell him that you brought it. You put your
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pants on, you put your put your gun on. Just I mean,
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I don't have a problem with the person. I just like, why is
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that a Well he's just telling him I brought a gun to the situation.
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It's out there. Well, he's a lawyer, he knows. He's like,
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I need to tell the cops I brought a gun. An autopsy would
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later reveal that fifty two year old Maggie and twenty two year old Paul died
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somewhere between nine and nine thirty pm. Maggie was shot multiple times in the
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chest and the back with a semi automatic rifle. They determined that it looked
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like Maggie had been running away from the perpetrator when she was shot. Paula
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shot once in the chest and once in the neck face area with a shot
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gun. Yes. See, to me, it seems like maybe Paul was
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shot first and then Maggie started running away and the person who did this,
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I wonder who that, yeah, shot her? So that's what That's what
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it seemed like to me whenever I heard that, because he's confront Paul is
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facing the person, and Maggie's like, I can get the funk out of
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here. Well, OJ has been looking for the murderer of Nicole the golf
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courses. Did you maybe he could help Alex out by looking for them?
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He actually made a statement about all this. Oh I didn't think. Yeah,
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I don't remember what he said, but yeah, he's you know,
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he's yeah, OJ of course is going to show up. Of course.
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Now I gotta google this and find out. Yeah, I remember him doing
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it. Was like right after the verdict came down or whatever. He had
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something to say. Anyways, So as word got out about the murders.
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The media coverage just explodes. Paul was scheduled to finally go to court on
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June tenth, twenty twenty one. June tenth, tent tent can get June
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tenth, twenty twenty one. I gotta beat back the Rednecks to June tenth,
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twenty twenty one for the death of Mallory Beach in twenty nineteen. Like
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this is the death that we were talking about. He said he was getting
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threats or whatever. Now theories began to fly about why Maggie and Paul were
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killed. Who was the target and who was the collateral damage? Dude,
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that's the question. Which one actually needed to die and which one just had
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to die because they saw the other one die. Now, one of the
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first theories that emerges is that someone was upset about Mallory killed Paul out of
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revenge and Maggie just happened to be there, so she had to die as
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well, and that's what that's what Alex was riding on whenever he told the
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police. Seems plausible. Now. Another theory was that Maggie was the target
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due to rumors of her wanting to divorce old Alex. Now there was also
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the fact that the Murdochs came from a long line of solicitors, and this
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means that there could be a disgruntled criminal having wanted to retaliate against the family.
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So he's somebody along the long line of people that they've thrown in jail
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got out. Was like, I hate these people. I'm gonna lark by
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these hunting dog kennels and just wait for somebody to show up and killed them.
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So that's the other theory. So we got three working theories that could
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possibly be why Paul and Maggie were murdered. Now, the first person that
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the police look at is the Murdo housekeeper. What, okay, was Alex
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Murta too soon Stewart? Too soon? Yes, Jesus. Why Gloria was
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the nanny? Oh? She was the housekeeper letter, wasn't she? Yes?
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No, she was the housekeeper first, then she turned to the nanny.
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But she's also dead, so too soon. Well you don't think they
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got another housekeeper aft of that? Oh? Okay, whatever, go on?
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It was just a general housekeeper, okay, sure it was sure it
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was oh, my goodness person too soon? Okay, So they looking at
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Alex for some reason, wondering if he had any reason he might want to
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kill his son and his wife. They began looking into possible stressors in the
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marriage. Now Paul was a major stress because of this boating accident, because
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he's a ship hidden. Yeah, this one boating accident just coused everybody start
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looking at this whole family's history and all the ship that's I mean, they
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were terrible before, but Paul just like pushed him into the Limelet and I
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don't care that Paul's did. He still doesn't make him Just because you died
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as an all of a sudden, just a race everything Badge did. Yeah,
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what a terrible human you were. Yeah, So Paul was a major
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stress because he had brought to light issues in the family with the substance abuse
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through the boat crash and continuing to drinking party while he was awaiting trial.
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Yeah, zero zero fus given on Paul's part for what he had done to
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Mallory. Now he didn't just continued he needed probably treatment for his alcohol addiction.
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Yeah, he'd probably been drank him since he was like ten. Well,
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no, we said, we know, we knew he we talked about
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his dude was fourteen. Well you don't You don't think he was sneaking before.
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Well, I'm sure he was, But I mean I was here for
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the four team where they allowed him to drink, but he might have been
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sneaking the stuff. Pretty sure. That was now Buster, the older son
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Buster. Why would you go by Buster, I don't know. Well,
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the Buster was the family name back in the Yeah, the Buster was the
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family nickname for his grandpa or whatever back in the day, Okay, And
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it was forced upon him, like everything else in his family forced upon him.
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Well, old Buster the oldest. He was expelled from the University of
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South Carolina for plagiarism, and at the time he was the only shining light
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for Alex and Maggie because he was set to follow in his father's footsteps and
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become an attorney and joined the family. My business, how lazy are you?
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You're a rich Okay. I've been to college a couple of times,
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okay twice. In really into it, I did not have any money.
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I did not have any help for my parents or anything like that. And
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I had to, you know, pay for everything and pay for school and
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do all this stuff. And I never once like plagiarized anything like that or
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like that. So this little shit who had everything given to him. I
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guarantee his parents were paying for his apartment, paying for his food, paying
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for every little necessity that he needed, all his lot, everything. All
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he had to do was study and do school work and drinking a party him
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and all he and he has to go and cheat like I mean, you
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had everything given to you. I mean, if anything, the poor kids
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should be the ones cheating. I mean they're busy, they're working. Yeah,
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I gotta pay for schooling. Yeah. Are you so you're you're okay
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with cheating if you're poor, Sure, yes, you're just it's a lot
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to do it. Well, if you any of you people that are struggling
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to make ends, mate, get caught plagiarizing or chading, just telling Carros
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that it was okay, it's okay. I'm just saying, you're already rich.
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What do you need? What do you need to plagiarize. It's like
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that girl that was like the Walmart eRASS or whatever. She got caught she
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was in college or whatever, and they found out she'd she'd paid someone for
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all of her schoolwork and take all of her tests. I thought you're gonna
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say she gotta caught shoplifting or something. No at Walmart. Yeah, that'd
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be awesome. It's some Nobo or whatever that's the brand is at Walmart anyways,
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no boundaries if any you're wondering. But no, she got caught because
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she'd been paying someone to take test and do all this stuff. She did
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her whole entire college degree, and she'd paid someone off to do the whole
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thing. It's like, why even get one just she was busy. She
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just wandered one anyways, kind of like if you want one of them design
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her dogs, you just go buy one. Yeah, well that's what they
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felt. Well, no, that's what happened to Laurie Laughlin whenever she tried
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to buy her children their degrees at whatever, you know university. Anyways,
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we're digressing. Go on, Stuard, go on, get back on,
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get back on. Point Buster's a ship. Heead, he plagiarized, he
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gets kicked out of college. Good for the college though, for actually following
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through on that, because I'm sure they wrote a hefty check to the University
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of Healthcare. I don't think they hadn't like Charleston money where they got like
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their own building named after him. There's probably not a Murdo building on site.
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Yeah, you're a poor man's Charleston. So what you're saying is Buster
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was poor and those he can cheat because he was a poor man's Charleston.
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Yes, no, Stuart, Okay, we've gone too far into this,
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too many jokes about that. Yes, we've gone way too deep into this.
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People are turning off the podcast right now. It's quite possible. Police
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also find rumors of cracks in the Murdo marriage. They believe not just butt
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cracks, though there's a lot of those. I'm sorry, it's a fifth
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grade joke. Funny in fifth grade, funny now. Now, they believe
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Maggie had discovered some finny anential issues, that Alex was not paying some of
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the bills, and this would have been a complete shock to Maggie given the
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families supposed great wealth. No, it's a great wealth, well the family.
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Yeah, it's just that you shouldn't be behind anyone. You shouldn't have
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any debt, You shouldn't have anything making this kind of money. Don't get
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me started on debt, Stewart, I don't know how much money they're making.
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They're making a lot of money, and they got all this inherited land
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and stuff like that. I don't think any of those homes that there have
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I think they're all like passed down through the family. That's what I think.
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I don't know. I didn't well, Maggie was said to have hired
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a forensic accountant to determine where all the money that was supposedly coming in,
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where it was actually going, and why they were just struggling despite what their
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reported income was. Man, you're a real skeptical of their income. I
24:52
am like a lot of allegedly they were allegedly making money, they were legged
25:00
lee bank bills. Now, to add to this, it was rumored that
25:03
Maggie was seeing a divorce attorney and living at the Murdock Beach House out in
25:10
Adisto. A disto, A disto, I don't know, A disco ball
25:15
A Disto Adisto Tomato, Tomato. I'm sure we'll hear about it. Oh,
25:21
I'm sure we will. If there's somebody living in a Disto beach gonna
25:25
be like, these people are stupid. That's fine, Probably are probably right.
25:29
Yep. Well, this a Disto Adisto is about an hour and a
25:33
half from Hampton, South Carolina. Where the family home is located. So
25:38
it's not too too bad. Well, I mean, if you're freaking live
25:41
at the beach too, I don't know what. Well I would live at
25:44
the beach, yes, but I mean if you're getting divorced, of course
25:47
she's living an hour and a half away. There there's cracks in the marriage.
25:49
Yeah, I'll SLED, which is South Carolina Law Enforcement Division, was
25:55
brought in to investigate the murders. SLED, it's not hasn't anything to do
25:59
with Santa Now. They were very quiet with the information, but they did
26:03
state multiple times that there was no active threat to the public despite their being
26:08
a double homicide and no suspects. Now that's alarming because if two people are
26:15
murdered, you would think that if they don't know who it is and they
26:18
don't have any suspects, you'd be like, hey, y'all, you need
26:21
to wake up, you know, watch out, because there's somebody out there
26:22
like killing people, shooting them and everything like that. You know, there's
26:26
usually a threat to society if they know it's a stranger that came into this,
26:32
so they know they know more than what they're letting on. So they
26:36
released no other information that you would expect in a murder investigation. There was
26:40
no information for the public to be on the lookout for, like a car
26:42
or description of a person, which usually you get usually get a bowl and
26:45
be like, hey, someone saw this car, or we need to look
26:48
at this. Nothing they got. The public got nothing from these people.
26:53
Well I got a reassurance not to worry. Well, yeah, sure,
26:56
I guess so. Now, at this point it seemed to the public that
27:00
they had no suspects. However, some interesting actions by police were forthcoming.
27:04
Stewart, Oh, do tell so they're not telling a lot to the public,
27:07
but they're doing a lot of things behind the scenes. And it's a
27:11
little odd because normally, normally when they have a suspect, even if it's
27:17
the husband or whoever it is, they announced it right away. But they're
27:19
not doing that because I feel like it's such a high profile case they're having
27:23
to treat it in a different manner. On June twenty two, twenty twenty
27:29
one, investigators announced that they are reopening the investigation into the death, which
27:34
they are now classifying as a murder of Stephen Smith, based on evidence that
27:40
they gathered during the investigation of Paul and Maggie murdo. Now this is just
27:44
a so Like I said that Paul and Maggie were murdered on June seventh,
27:48
So this is less than or right about two weeks after this occurred. Yeah,
27:55
So the Smith family moms had been saying all along that this is odd.
28:00
He wasn't hit by a car. Blah blah blah. She thinks there
28:03
was some foul play or to her son's murder. Just blah blah blah.
28:10
Wow, gonna call me out that are you? That's dirty. They've been
28:12
working for years to prove that their son was not run Yeah, they knew
28:18
he was murdered for the foul play, like if something hadn't gone down.
28:26
Yes, yes, he'd been murdered. They or or Manslow or whatever you
28:29
want to call it, got carried up. Someone attacked him and it got
28:33
way out of hand and next thing you know, up to first degree murder,
28:36
that somebody planning to killing you. They'd hired that private investigator and everything
28:40
like that. Now this cast a lot of suspicion on Buster and or Paul's
28:45
involvement with Steven's murder, making all those rumors out there potentially true. And
28:49
if you're not. If you're not clear on the rumors, go back and
28:52
listen to our episode two two times before this is that any saying chair one?
28:59
Okay, Now this adds stress to Alex as well, who is already
29:03
under suspicion and the death of his wife and son. Police continue to investigate
29:08
the murders of Paul and Maggie, and Alex Murdoch's life quickly and continuously unravels
29:17
after all this. Yeah, so on September third, twenty twenty one,
29:19
we're kind of walking at this as you if you can't tell, we're walking
29:22
through a timeline of events. This is there's this long timeline of these people
29:26
are just always doing some you know. So on September third, twenty twenty
29:30
one, PMPD PEED, PIMPED like I like to call it law firm,
29:37
which is the this is the Murdoch's family law firm. They confront Alex about
29:41
the misuse of funds in the tune of millions of dollars, Like he has
29:45
fucked over multiple people, dozens of people, and it's cost the firm millions
29:51
of dollars, both clients money. And then he's also been found that he's
29:53
actually been stealing the firm's money too. So it's not just clients, it's
29:57
the firm, it's everybody. He's just screwed everybody. So they forced him
30:02
to resign that day. They sit him down in the room, they're like,
30:03
hey, we know you've done all this stuff. And I think it
30:07
was probably what they probably did was his reputation was going downhill quickly between the
30:14
murders, his son Paul, all this stuff, all this stuff's coming light
30:18
in sore, like, we need to look into old old Alex and see
30:21
if we can get rid of him, because we need to get him out
30:22
of here. And then actually when they started looking into they're like, oh
30:25
my god, he actually did some really bad stuff. He did some real
30:27
shady shit our firm, and we're out some money. Yeah. So and
30:32
now we're gonna pay all these clients or they're going to come after us.
30:34
Well, now we got to reimburse all these clients for all this shit.
30:37
Yeah. I think they were probably looking for some reason to make him resign
30:41
because he was he was causing problems for the law firm, and when they
30:45
started looking into it, they found that there was actual he was actually doing
30:48
something. So the next day, September fourth, it called that was my
30:53
mom's birth day. Stem Anyways, a call comes in from Alex Murdoch.
31:00
He is on Salca Hatchee Road, Salca hatche I practice saying this and I
31:04
just missed. I still salkahatche similar to what you did earlier today. So
31:14
Salcache Road in Collaton County. And he says that he stopped to check a
31:18
low tar on the car. Now it was his late late wife's car that
31:22
he was cruising around town in. So he says that he someone stopped to
31:26
help him with the tar and everything that season, you know, passing along
31:30
stops to help, and then all of a sudden that person just suddenly pulls
31:33
out a gun, shoots him in the head and drives off. Just I'm
31:37
sure this is common place in Old Hampton, Collaton County, South Carolina.
31:41
I mean I've been all the time. I've been in a few places where
31:45
it might be common Stewart like the former Baymont Baymont Oh Yeah hotel and law
31:53
Oh my god, Yeah, I stopped at this Starbucks and long View and
31:56
there was a anyways, we'll just I'll just stop. Anyways, So he
32:02
says that he was shot in the head and they drove off. So Alex
32:05
was bleeding but was able to make a phone call and he says he needed
32:08
an ambulance and he could not drive. Now, immediately everyone believes someone had
32:13
a hit out on Alex Murdoch and it was someone trying to take out like
32:17
is this someone trying to take out the Murdock family. I remember I was
32:21
pregnant through a lot of this and having children, so I'll be honest when
32:23
it was happening. I don't remember a lot about the Paul Murdoch Mallory situation
32:31
where he was drunk and everything like that, but I do remember specifically,
32:36
I just watched a brief thing about it. It did seem like Paul and
32:40
Maggie were murdered and then now Alex is about to be murdered. It did
32:44
seem like someone was trying to take out this family, like someone had to
32:46
hit out on him. So also the exact that was that I thought he
32:51
was trying to But I didn't really know anything about any of this, Like
32:54
I hadn't paid attention to any of it. Well, I guess we don't
32:58
talk enough. Thing we don't. It's the least amount of talking we do
33:01
is is for the best. That's why we got too bad. We only
33:05
talk to each other while we're doing this podcast, which is why there's so
33:08
much offhanded conversation. Now Alex is taken by helicopter to Savannah. We've been
33:15
a Savannah Stewart is very nice. We stayed right around the corner from the
33:19
Mercer House and it was one of the best places if you were anywhere near
33:22
Savannah or you're thinking about going. We went to Charleston and Savannah. Savannah's
33:27
ten times better than Charleston. I know I'm going to start. I love
33:32
Savannah. Savannah's more my I'm going to use them. I'm going to use
33:37
the Is it gen z? Are they below the millennials after the millennials before
33:43
them? Or what are they gen z? What's gen z? I don't
33:47
know what whatever these ship heads did that came after me because I'm technically an
33:52
older millennial. Anyways, the vibe of Savannah was much better. I just
33:58
love it. I've had so much fun. It was so much fun.
34:00
We went. It was we went. We stayed at that Eliza Thompson house
34:04
and we were right around from the Mercers and we the Mercer house where if
34:07
you've read of the Garden, in the Garden of Good and Evil. Anyways,
34:15
we walked out there, you walk out and we sat in one of
34:16
those squeries. I remember, we were like drinking. It was. It
34:19
was so much fun. Anyway, So he is flown by helicopter to Savannah
34:22
and he is expected to survive. Oh thank god. Now the next day,
34:27
this story is everywhere. It looks like this family is being targeted and
34:30
a killer is on the loose. So all this stuff that the sleds tame
34:34
like, Oh, don't worry. You know, whoever call it killed Paula
34:37
Maggie. They're not gonna hurt anybody else. Now they're out there shooting Alex.
34:39
It seems like everybody and so they're like, hey, should we be
34:43
worried out here? However, there does seem to be more to the story
34:46
that starts coming out. The family makes a statement on Alex and the embezzment
34:52
of money from Hint the firm, and Alex then tries to make a statement
34:55
telling the public that he has an addiction problem and then he's going to go
35:00
to rehab. Well, thank goodness, classic Alex. Mmmmmm. Now more
35:05
confusion is added when Alex tells police a different story of about a week after
35:09
the incident. Well, he is addicted to drugs. I mean, his
35:13
story could change. He can do whatever he wants. That's his reason for
35:15
doing anything. He's like, I'm addicted to drugs. That's why I snorted
35:19
coke off that stripper's ass. I don't know why I did these things.
35:22
You can say anything if you're addicted to drugs. You can say the drugs
35:25
made me do it. Yeah, that quite maybe did? Okay, go
35:32
on, stort. We had to record over something very inappropriate. I said
35:38
something about some cock or something. What is wrong with you? I know
35:46
I said that. I did not I would never say such a thing.
35:50
Well, we have it on, had it on audio. It's gone,
35:53
now it's done. More confusion has added when Alex tells police a story a
36:00
week after the incident. He tells police he actually hired a man named Curtis
36:05
Edward Smith to kill him so that Buster could get a ten million dollar life
36:08
insurance payout. Fuck Buster. We don't care about Buster, neither, it
36:15
is Alex. That's why this was staged. Nobody cares about care about Buster.
36:22
Nobody cares about Buster. Poor buster Buster killed Stephen. We don't care
36:25
about Buster either yes had a hand in it or oh Ginger was responsible for
36:32
that? Do you think yes? I think he had a hand in it.
36:36
I don't know Stewart he had a hand in something of Steven's allegedly allegedly.
36:43
Now police interview Curtis and he claims that this is all false. He
36:46
says he had been a friend to Alex and that if Alex had wanted him
36:51
to kill him, he would be dead. He says that Alex did call
36:54
him out to Basically, he's saying, I'm a good shot and if he
36:58
wanted to be dead, he'd done be dead. I would have killed Dunbee
37:00
did now. He said that Alex called him out to hard word road,
37:07
had work, hard word Hatchee road. But Alex was fine. The road
37:14
is not called hard word. It sounds like you said a hardwood road,
37:16
hardwood, hard word Salca Hatchee road. Sure, okay, but Alex was
37:22
fine. And when he arrived, but he was I rate. Alex pulled
37:25
out a gun on Curtis and they wrestled with it. They wrastled with they
37:30
had all that rassled with the gun. Buster would have been so excited.
37:36
Yes, now the gun went off and grazed Alex head. Curtis then left.
37:42
Police continued to investigate, and meanwhile, Alex financial crimes, they're all
37:46
bubbling up, starting to catch up with him. On September fifty twenty one,
37:52
Gloria Satterfield's family followed. Now, this was the housekeeper slash nanny to
37:58
Paul that we spoke about in the first episode of our Murdoch series. Her
38:02
family filed a lawsuit against Alex Murdoch over money they believe he pocketed from Glory's
38:08
death. Now, they had been told for years by Alex and their attorney,
38:13
Corey Fleming, that the money was still tied up. However, they
38:16
found out through a newspaper article when the boat crash crash occurred, that the
38:21
Murdoch's insurance had actually already paid out five hundred thousan dollars. They're reading this
38:24
article and they're like, what excuse me? So they had never seen a
38:30
dime of that money. Yeah, if you remember Alex, after mom died,
38:37
Gloria told the kids, sue my estate for this money, and he
38:43
said, homemater's insurance and this buddy of mine, mister Fleming will get you
38:46
hooked up. You'll get some money for your mom's death. Blah blah.
38:51
Me trying to make it right is what he was trying. He was trying
38:53
to be well. He was the good person. So he says, they
38:57
hire an attorney, and he quickly distover discovers that that not only had that
39:00
five hundred thousand dollars been paid out, but in an additional insurance policy had
39:06
paid out. Guess what Stewart tell me, five hundred thousand is like changes,
39:12
yes, compared to this three point five million dollars, bringing that total
39:15
to four million dollars that should have been paid to the Satterfield family over Gloria's
39:21
death. Now, after some further digging, they found that Alex was the
39:24
one that had obtained the money by using Corey Fleming and another lawyer who deposited
39:30
the money into a special bank account. And the Filled family never received any
39:35
of that money from Alex. So he had used multiple chains of things,
39:38
and it was like a weird situation. The name of the bank was a
39:43
common bank that was used for types of claims like this forage. I think
39:50
it was called and so he had but he changed the name a little bit
39:52
and it was very he hit it very well from if a lawyer or somebody
39:57
was looking into it, they wouldn't even have noticed. So he did this
40:00
to this family and it all got funneled to him, and I'm sure a
40:05
cut got to Corey Fleming and whoever else do Why, yes, you gotta
40:08
cut them in so they don't squeal on it. Well, Corey Fleming would
40:12
have got his regular attorney fees, which would have been for something a third
40:16
of it and everything that Alex got the rest of it. So they never
40:21
said if the Corey guy got charged with anything, but which all that stuff
40:25
could still be coming because like we said, they're digging all this stuff up
40:30
and it's coming to light. Now we're going to find which one of these
40:32
cops was getting paid off? Yeah, who had boats and stuff that they
40:36
really shouldn't be able to afford. Yes, anyways, So yeah, the
40:39
Sadderfield family got completely screwed on all this, and one of the sons was
40:44
special needs. It's just even more terrible on top of he's just a horrible
40:49
human being. The day after this lawsuit was filed, Alex was arrested and
40:54
charged with fraud and conspiracy and his little suicide scheme back on September fourth,
41:00
twenty twenty one, with mister Curtis Smith. Alex's lawyers argued that he was
41:07
depressed by the death of his family members, he was struggling to quit painkillers,
41:13
and he was still upset or depressed with his release from the family law
41:17
firm. He was released to go back to the rehab facility, but his
41:22
passport was taken. They thought he was going to leave out the country's due.
41:25
I don't kind of understand why Garen damt he would have fled to Costa
41:30
Rica. Well, I can go back to Costa Rica myself now a month
41:34
later. Send you back to Costa Rica, would you Stewart now? A
41:38
month later? On October fourteenth, twenty twenty one, Alex was arrested at
41:43
the DTACH Center he was seeking treatment at in Florida for stealing millions of dollars
41:49
from the Sadderfield family. He was hauled back to South Carolina and detained and
41:55
detained and also denied bond YEP so he stuck and jump. So as the
42:01
financial crimes against the sadder Fields are coming to the forefront, other victims are
42:06
being discovered Now, one of those victims was from twenty eighteen, and this
42:09
was a trooper who was in a crash on the job. Now, he
42:14
was examined by a doctor who had diagnosed him with a sprained neck, but
42:19
the pain it had actually continued to grow and get worse, and he paid
42:22
out a pocket for a different doctors. They send me to one and they're
42:25
like, oh, it's just a sprained neck, You're fine, And he's
42:29
like, I don't think this is okay. Now, at that point he
42:30
had been seeing a Workman's Comp doctor because I guess they assigned they have special
42:37
doctors for Workman's comp, which seems a little shaky to me. Yeah,
42:42
the new doctor said it was not a sprained neck, and then he actually
42:45
needed surgery from this whole. He had been hit by a car and it
42:50
had shocked his neck. So the claim was denied by the Workman's Comp and
42:53
he could not afford to pay for it himself. Like, so he submits
42:58
this and they're like, no, we're not doing this. Now, he
43:00
was told by a lawyer in town. This lawyer was Alex Murdoch that he
43:06
could help him get his surgery covered. They end up winning and the trooper
43:09
was given one hundred thousand dollars check. Now, Alex told him he needed
43:14
to put the money in a special account that would be set aside until all
43:16
litigation was done. Well, the trooper never saw this money. He goes
43:22
into Alice office, He signs over the check and signs the back of it
43:25
and Alex takes it. Now, it would be three years before he found
43:29
out he had been scammed by Alex Murdock. Now, as these additional crimes
43:34
are uncovered, Alex was eventually charged with a total of twenty seven financial crimes.
43:39
On December thirteenth, twenty twenty one, during a hearing, he agreed
43:44
to pay the sadder Fields four point three million dollars. Despite this, his
43:49
bond was set at seven million dollars and he remained in jail. Alex remained
43:53
in jail while investigators continue to look into the murder of Paul and Maggie.
43:58
New evidence pointing to Alex being the killer came to light, including a Snapchat
44:02
video old Snapchat. Yeah. Apparently the judge was not too impressed with Alex
44:07
Murraau. That's why he said his bond at seven million dollars, which is
44:09
completely like unprecedented because these were for financial crimes that he was in therefore,
44:15
not for any murders. So that's just like crazy that someone gets seven million
44:20
dollars bond. Yeah. Now, On July fourteenth, twenty twenty two,
44:24
Alex wasn't dited on two counts of murder for Paul and Maggie murder. On
44:30
July twentieth, Alex was at his first hearing, where he pleaded not guilty
44:35
and the defense and prosecution went to work to make their cases. Alex's team
44:40
asked for the trial to be scheduled as soon as possible now. On January
44:45
twenty fifth, twenty twenty three, the prosecution stated during opening arguments that Alex
44:51
first shot Paul twice with the shotgun, once in the shoulder to stop him
44:54
and then once in the head to kill him. He then picked up a
44:58
rifle and shot Maggie in the leg to stop her, and then proceeded to
45:00
shoot her multiple times to kill her. Now, the motive behind the murders
45:05
was Alex. Alex's financial troubles and the trouble Paul had gotten into with the
45:09
boat crash. Murdering his wife and child would draw attention away from him and
45:15
solve some of his problems. They're like, hey, look at this,
45:19
or just bring everything crashing down. Yeah, look at the left hand while
45:23
the right hand is doing whatever. Don't don't pay attention to Is that the
45:27
same? Okay? Now that the defense argued during opening statements that Alex was
45:32
a loving father and husband who would never harm his family. They argued that
45:37
there was no evidence tying Alex to these murders of Paul and Mackie. I
45:43
no pa that nobody had ever heard him. We'll get into that, but
45:47
never heard him. He called him Paul Paul the whole entire time, and
45:50
no one had ever heard him call him Paul Paul. It was like a
45:52
technique to make him seem more loving. No, he was an idiot.
45:58
Yeah. Now. The prosecution presented evidence arguing that Alex did not seem very
46:02
distraught or panicky during the initial interaction with police. He also immediately started offering
46:08
possible perpetrators, like trying to distance himself from being the prime suspect. They
46:15
walked through the timeline where Alex said he left to go to his parents' house,
46:20
and Alex said on multiple occasions that he did not go to the kennels
46:23
with Maggie and Paul. However, prosecutors introduced an explosive video caught by Paul's
46:31
cell phone camera. It's Paul, what a dog? In the background.
46:36
You can hear at least two voices. One is Maggie and the other one
46:39
is clearly Alex, and he is calling a dog named Bubba, while Alex's
46:45
face the dog's name is Bubba. Now, while Alex's face is not on
46:50
the camera, the prosecution brought for six witnesses that identified the voice on the
46:54
video as that belonging to Alex Murdock. I mean, I don't even know
46:59
the fucker, but let me tell you what I want. I heard the
47:00
video. You could hear Maggie, you could hear a pole and that you
47:02
heard the voice the background, and it was Alex. Margat has a very
47:06
distinct tone and in an accent. Everything like his voices. You can pick
47:12
it out easily just by hearing him a couple of times. You know that's
47:15
him. Yeah, if you've heard him and then you hear it a voice
47:19
thinking yeah with him. Now. The next witness they bring to contradict his
47:24
alibi is the caretaker of Alex's mother, She says that she saw Alex around
47:30
nine twenty pm, which was an odd time for him to visit. She
47:35
says he left after just fifteen minutes and seemed very nervous. She says the
47:38
next week after the murders, Alex spoke to her and tried to get her
47:43
to tell investigators that he was there longer than he actually was. Now I
47:46
have a theory on this whole thing where she said he seemed nervous. Rich
47:51
people don't ever seem nervous. You know, rich people walking in with I'm
47:55
just saying, I'm just assuming I'm well, I hope out nab with quite
48:01
a few stuarts, have you. Yes, rich people are never nervous.
48:06
They're just come in. They're just like, I'm fucking here, I'm rich,
48:07
bitch, What you gonna do about it? Can you hanging out with
48:10
Daschappellagan? Yes, So he walks in these nervous, which is a weird
48:15
thing because, like I said, rich people aren't nervous, then they ain't
48:21
got nothing to lose. I ain't nervous. I'm nervous all the time.
48:24
Like what, like you murder somebody? Yeah, I'm like someone trying to
48:28
get me, like, you know, like you murdered somebody and you're about
48:31
to get caught at home. I feel like someone's always trying to like one
48:36
up me or like trying to come at me. That's just my paranoia.
48:38
Though. Well, one day I hope to be rich, and I'm offended
48:43
that you are a future stereotyping me as a rich person. That I just
48:45
you're never nervous, But I would exactly. Rich people aren't nervous, they're
48:51
just nervous. That could be nervous, little allis No, I'd be nervous.
48:55
Somebody was trying to kill me all the time because you're rich or kidna?
48:58
That marror, Okay, anyways, go on, Stuart. That's just
49:01
my theory, she says. The next week after the murders, Alex spoke
49:06
to her and tried to get her to tell investigators he was there longer than
49:09
he actually was. She also stated that the morning after the murders, Alex
49:15
showed up with a blue tarp like item bawled up under his arms. The
49:19
caretaker immediately went upstairs upon seeing him, police him. He makes her nervous.
49:27
Yes, I can see that police searched the home and find a large
49:31
raincoat bawled up in a closet. They tested and find that it did have
49:37
gunshot residu on the coat. Yeah, it's it was a blue coat,
49:40
and it was that. It did look it looked like she was aiming,
49:44
like it's a blue tarp like item. That's what it looked like. It
49:46
was a big, old, long raincoat. And they find that, and
49:52
yet it had had the gunshot residu like he had planned on wearing it and
49:57
disposing it as its parents. They did get test for a gunshot like a
50:04
first degree murder m like it's planned. Really now. Another witness that came
50:09
to the stand for the prosecution was Maggie's sister Mary. Mary said that Maggie
50:15
only went to Moselle that night because Alex asked her to because she had been
50:20
staying at the beach house, which, like we said, is an hour
50:22
and a half away. A few other main points they brought are the fact
50:27
that he stated he tried to help Maggie and Paul and touched them and everything,
50:30
yet he had completely clean hands and clean clothes. I mean there was
50:35
blood. I mean, these people were shot multiple times and he ain't got
50:37
nothing on him. Might be on the raincoat. Probably. Now they also
50:42
have video of him saying I did him so bad. This is this is
50:45
the quotes from the video when referencing what happened to Paul. Almost like a
50:51
slip of the tongue, admitting to the murder. It's almost like that,
50:52
what's the guy with the jinks? The oh, Robert Durst. Durst is
51:00
in the bathroom. He didn't know who he was up. Yeah, he
51:04
admitted to the murders. So anyways, he said I did him so bad.
51:08
And so the final nell in the coffin was cell phone data showing Alex's
51:14
movements that night, which showed that he had enough time to commit the murders,
51:17
drive to his parents home, and then made it all the way back.
51:20
Now, the prosecution had a final big win when they were allowed to
51:22
present the financial crimes of Alex to the jury. They believe this was the
51:28
reason behind the murders, and it was to build sympathy, and by time
51:31
it was the reason he killed Paul and Maggie. He needed those two things
51:37
like, oh my god, my wife and child just were murdered. Yeah,
51:40
don't look at this, like let's just move on past this. But
51:45
Yeah, it was. It was clear from the cell phone data he was.
51:47
There was a whole thing. I don't I didn't put it all in
51:50
here, but there was a whole thing about even like they had pinpointed him
51:53
on the property in making like paces, they could time how fast he is
52:00
walking based on this cell phone date. It was. It was pretty accurate
52:04
or pretty detailed anyway. Yeah, drink. Yeah, so definitely they had
52:08
the uh, the smoking gun with that one. The defense did argue that
52:15
evidence at the scene was compromised due to a sloppy investigation. Now if there
52:20
was no doubt, Now, if there was a sloppy investigation, as the
52:22
prosecutor, I would say, I'm sure that that's the one that Alex murder
52:27
I tried to purchase. Was a sloppy investigation because we know there's some some
52:30
complicit members of the law enforcement in this area. Yeah, especially on the
52:37
boat crash, I think less so on this well yeah, well, I
52:42
mean, I mean, if you're whatever, if you're one of these these
52:47
dirty sons of guns that let them take the the evidence, they let them
52:52
take the boat off the scene. Yeah, just take take our prime evidence
52:57
of the boat crash. The boat itself. The brother took the boat and
53:00
hauling it out of here. Yea, yeah, I know, right right
53:01
there with the cops watching and everything. Yeah. So I think a lot
53:05
of them have been weeded out then and by the time this occurred. It
53:08
was like on the video you can see where the cops say, oh,
53:12
the Murdochs and they're like, we need to be on top of four ship.
53:15
But there are still people within that that were close to the Murdochs and
53:21
needed probably need to be removed. But it was a slopping investigation. They're
53:24
just they just you get these cops, you get these big murder cases and
53:29
these small towns. These cops don't they're not used to this. This isn't
53:31
they're not in the middle of of like Washington, DC or something where it
53:36
occurs all the time, these murders, and they're like, we need to
53:37
be on top of things and keep a They just didn't. They just don't
53:43
do it. They don't know. Yeah, they don't know whatever until like
53:46
sled comes in they called Sled in and uh, of course they're more experience,
53:52
they're more experienced. They're like, oh, you guys didn't do this
53:55
right, and this right and we've already compromised evidence. But that was the
54:00
lawyer's argument at that point. Now, there was a lack of investigation at
54:04
the scene, including not taking fingerprints or check to check bathtubs and showers for
54:09
blood from cleaning up after the crime. Well, that would have been at
54:13
the parents house. I feel like the raincoat or one of the hound that
54:17
could have checked all the two houses on the property. And yeah, they
54:22
didn't check any of that to see if it had been if someone had cleaned
54:24
themselves up. Yeah, they also found no blood evidence on him. They
54:30
never recovered the murder weapons and all they had with circumstantial evidence. Now there
54:34
is something with the weapons. I was watching. I didn't put it in
54:38
here, but there. I was watching it because there's so much information around
54:42
this. It's just, I mean, it's exhausting. I'll be honest with
54:45
you people, it's just exhausting. The mount someone was like in the fluid
54:50
drone over there and actually saw a buster and the grandpa I think, or
54:54
one of the or the uncle carrying guns out and he was able to zoom
55:00
in and see that it was one that might have been a shotgun in an
55:04
aar well. They were removing a lot of gun. Yeah, they were
55:07
removing a lot of things. They didn't know why. There were situations where
55:09
Buster and the uncle were out in Vegas, like spending a bunch of money.
55:14
It was almost like they were trying to like blow through the old guid
55:17
in games. Yeah, there's a lot of things. We didn't put it
55:22
all in here because, to be honest with you, it's just it's too
55:23
much information. It's so much information. These people suck. That's all you
55:27
need to know. Is that all I need to know all they know.
55:30
After three episodes, we could have just said episode terrible and they suck now.
55:38
Alex also had several witnesses come on his behalf to talk about his grief
55:44
over the loss of his wife and child. Paul. Buster took the stand
55:50
and defend his father, saying he was completely broken over their deaths. The
55:53
final witness for Alex was Alex himself, and he chose to take the stand
56:00
and defend themselves. Now this is where OJ chimed in. He said that
56:06
Alex looked this up in the meantime. Yes, I did, like an
56:09
hour ago, he or OJ. Yeah, OJ so that he couldn't believe
56:16
that Alex was going to take the stand in his own defense because he was
56:20
a known liar, and how is he gonna be on the stand for up
56:24
to eight days without lying? And it was just like why O, why
56:29
are you stepping into those didn't Oj take the stand in his own defense?
56:31
Yes? Yes, And he also wrote a book called If I Did It?
56:36
Well the family the family, there's a whole thing about the suit thing
56:40
and they had he had to put if I did it, and he had
56:43
to put the if really small And that's why it says I did it because
56:46
the family like worked out a thing and said, look, you're going to
56:49
make money off this, because they actually won the civil suit while they while
56:52
he was um not convicted of the murders in a criminal in a you know,
56:58
with the state and everything like a criminal suit, he was convicted in
57:01
a civil suit based on the evidence. And so he wanted to release this
57:06
book if If I Did It. And the family was like, Okay,
57:08
if you're going to make money off this, it's gonna come to us.
57:10
You're gonna put the if really really small, and you're gonna put I did
57:14
It on the book cover. It was like a whole thing. So they
57:17
got they. I mean he's still been paying them because he did lose that
57:21
civil suit, like because it was obvious he killed, he was acquitted.
57:24
He killed both of them, and then Casey Anthony, we're both acquitted.
57:30
Yep. Alex spoke of his love for his wife and child and cried on
57:35
the stand recalling how happy they were. The defense did ask him about lying
57:39
to investigators about being at the kennels with Maggie and Paul, and he admits
57:45
he lied, and he did this due to his pill addiction. Of course.
57:49
Of course, he also admits a line to his clients and taking them
57:53
their mother, their money, their mother, their money whatever. Well,
57:58
he did take the Satterfields, Yeah, because of his pill addiction. Ye.
58:02
His new story is that he was out at the kennels at around eight
58:07
forty four pm to rescue a chicken. I mean, come on, come,
58:13
is there any reason other be out the kennels than to rescue a chicken,
58:17
A very beloved chicken, beloved house chicken. On. I mean,
58:22
eggs are expensive even for rich people. Yes, so he's back. He's
58:28
saying he's back at the main house at eight forty nine pm. So at
58:32
eight forty four he's at the kennels, caught on tape on snapchat video rescuing
58:39
a chicken or choking his chicken. Went on. Oh, and at eight
58:44
forty nine, only a mere or five minutes later at the time of the
58:47
murders. At the time of the murders, conveniently, he's back at he's
58:52
away from he's away from so he's jumped on his golf cart for wheel or
58:54
whatever, drove drove in a car. It was at a car. He
58:59
drove back to the main house and he's back at the house by the time
59:01
that they actually got murdered. And then and he said he didn't hear any
59:06
of the gunshots, and that this is he decided this is when he was
59:08
taking a nap, So he didn't take a nap at seven pm. He
59:12
took a nap at eight forty nine pm and never heard anything. Yes,
59:16
So the prosecution and defense presented closing arguments, and on March second, the
59:21
jury went into deliberations. After just three hours, they found Alex Murdock guilty
59:27
on four counts, two murder charges and two charges of possession of a weapon
59:30
during a violent crime. I watched this one. I was into it at
59:35
this point I was watching it on the yes, and you were calling man
59:37
at work. Yeah, oh my god. Anyway, so he was sentenced
59:43
to two consecutive life sentences without the possibility of pearl. And now he is
59:46
currently in jail awaiting trial for his financial crimes because remember he was charged with
59:52
twenty seven financial crimes. So he's he's gonna appeal this obviously. I don't
59:58
know if he'll get the appeal those do for for the dramas. Maybe I
1:00:02
want it, you know, maybe I wanted Stu. Maybe I want him
1:00:05
to get another trial. Just yes, yes, so I can hear him
1:00:08
say Paul, Paul and all that whatever. So but yeah, that's where
1:00:13
he's at. And uh, we'll see. It's it's always, it's ever
1:00:15
changing. Buster could be in jail next. We don't know. He probably
1:00:19
killed Stephen. We don't know. They're they're going to hume the bodies,
1:00:22
both Gloria and Stephen. They're onto this family now that they're terrible human beings,
1:00:28
all right, So that's our case for this case, the case for
1:00:32
this case. Yeah, that sounds ridiculous. Anyways, do you have a
1:00:36
y'all need Jesus or did you do your homework? Well, do you not
1:00:38
want to tell him where Alex Murda is currently doing? Time don't love or
1:00:43
something. I don't know where I've read something about it, like a club
1:00:45
fed. He ain't doing like hard time where he's got to look over his
1:00:47
shoulder when he's in the shower. Oh, it's like a cushion. Drop
1:00:52
the soap in that lifestyle. I think he can drop the soap where he
1:00:55
is. I mean, he might want to drop the soap. I don't
1:00:58
know. We don't know. Okay, anyway, so you have a y'all
1:01:00
need jesus. Yeah, But first, you know, remember I was telling
1:01:04
you about Jersey last episode and that we had a listener in Jersey, and
1:01:08
I was like, I was like, why are they breaking out the Jersey
1:01:12
thing? Whenever you go to your your geographical data on where your listeners are
1:01:20
coming from, I'm like, Jersey. Why are they breaking out Jersey separate
1:01:23
from the United States? It just seems weird. They were It was like
1:01:28
it was his own country or something. Okay, so I had to look
1:01:30
it up. But I had to look it up, and it turns out
1:01:34
Jersey is its own country. Do you mean? And we were right there.
1:01:37
It's over in France. It's officially the Bailey Wick of Jersey and it's
1:01:43
an island country and self governing British Crown dependency near the coast of northwest France.
1:01:51
So we have a listener in someplace called Jersey, Jersey, which is
1:01:54
an island in the Channel Islands off the coast of France. And we were
1:01:58
close there when we were in Bay. You if we would have gone a
1:02:00
little further. So this is a Jersey listener that's not from like New Jersey.
1:02:06
Yeah, correct, did you? He's a Ginger. He's from Jersey.
1:02:09
So it's not one of those Jersey people. Okay. Now, because
1:02:13
we have more than one listeners, it's almost like Georgia the country versus Georgia
1:02:17
the state, because I get those confused sometimes, do you all the time
1:02:22
all the time? Okay, well that's cool. So we hear that one
1:02:27
listener out in Jersey, France or whatever. Next time in France, will
1:02:30
we'll stop by. We'll pop over to your aisland and see you get the
1:02:34
passport damp? What the hell are there? Okay? I mean, I
1:02:37
mean, do we get one that we got to go through customs? I
1:02:38
don't know, I don't think so, Stuart. I think it's just part
1:02:42
of Jersey. I mean France. I just tell you. I mean,
1:02:45
if it was regular Jersey, you'd need tetanus shots for sure. Problem.
1:02:50
Sorry, Jersey listeners, you know we love you immensely. It's like it's
1:02:55
a ongoing joke about Jersey with us. So if you're new and from Jersey,
1:03:00
don't be offended. You can't stand us now then whatever? All right,
1:03:04
so let's do your goal need Jesus. Yeah, we got this coming
1:03:07
in from mister boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants.
1:03:10
Yeah, he's emailed at the proper time because we were recording this and I
1:03:15
was like, hey, stude, someone made it found your Yeah, because
1:03:21
it studs usually just like searched around. I'm annoyed. What are you talking
1:03:24
about? Okay, come on, I'm ready to be done. Come on,
1:03:28
let's do you not hurry me up? Because you remember last time,
1:03:30
somebody was still listening and wanting to know about George Jones get on his lawnmower,
1:03:37
and we didn't even get to what Whale and Jennings had to say.
1:03:38
Okay, well, let's just finish. Let's just do this well you don't
1:03:42
care because you say you like country music, but you don't like country music.
1:03:45
You told me that Keith Urban was a country music I never said that.
1:03:51
Come on, Stewart, you like Keith Urban, I I do like
1:03:53
Keithting, but get the funk on with it. Woman arrested after allegedly running
1:04:00
onto an Arizona tarmac to stop a missed flight. Now, this seems like
1:04:05
something you should do if you're about to miss your flight. If it's de
1:04:10
Fiji, sure well you're still not getting the Fiji, so I would not
1:04:15
suggest doing this even if your flight is to Fiji. A woman was arrested
1:04:18
in Phoenix. Okay, this is coming nat Us from twelve twenty nine,
1:04:23
twenty one. Let's get that straight. A woman was arrested in Phoenix on
1:04:28
Sunday after allegedly running onto an airport tarmac then an attempt to stop a plane
1:04:33
that was about to take off without her. The woman was identified by Phoenix
1:04:39
police is fifty three year old Vicky Myers. Fifty three, yeah, get
1:04:44
your shit together. Twenty five year old but not over Yeah, a drunk
1:04:48
twenty four year old be like, oh shit, shit's going to cane gonna
1:04:53
be on the spring break flight. No, this is a fifty three year
1:04:56
old woman. You know where she's going. This is a be even worse
1:05:00
when I tell you where she's going. Now Myers Jersey, is it?
1:05:04
It might be. She was arrested at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport after she
1:05:10
allegedly late for a scheduled flight and entered a secure area of the airport.
1:05:15
Now, court documents reviewed by Phoenix Base blah Blah identified that area blah blah
1:05:20
signs and at least two languages that warned members of the public against trespassing were
1:05:26
visible. Are that you're not supposed to run on the Tormac's plane down.
1:05:30
I mean, it doesn't matter how many languages. And I don't we all
1:05:32
know this is Yeah, there's a red circle with a slash throat like do
1:05:35
not enter. Yeah, but it's not a language issue, it's a dumbass
1:05:40
re issue. Yes, So she allegedly entered the restricted area. Staff at
1:05:45
the airport made immediate contact with her, and they called law enforcement to assist
1:05:49
in their efforts. Where is she going? Oh? Where was she going?
1:05:56
Yeah? You told me you were like you never believe where she's going?
1:05:58
And I was like okay, and you're like, well, it wasn't
1:06:01
it wasn't. Well, let me get there. I gotta keep you on.
1:06:08
You know, you know how you keep her a rocal assholes and suspense.
1:06:12
I'll tell you later. You know what story? You don't know what
1:06:15
you're doing. And that's the only reason I'm in suspense because you don't know
1:06:18
the story. Yeah, I know the story. Now you gotta pop up
1:06:25
blocking you're reading. I just saw that cookie you didn't see. I saw
1:06:30
that cookie pop up in like block your view of being able to read the
1:06:34
story. Anyways, she went out the emergency exit doors on a guitar.
1:06:42
Max started arguing with ground crew as to why she should be allowed to try
1:06:45
and stop the point. Okay, do you want to fill the air?
1:06:51
Why you? Um yes, I want to start talking, um so m
1:07:00
m hmm yeahs. And a lion walk into a bar. No no,
1:07:09
no, it's an imam a priest and a rabbit walk into a bar.
1:07:15
Okay, all right, And the bartender says what do you have? And
1:07:17
the rabbit says, I don't know. I'm just here because of the fucking
1:07:19
auto correct because he's a rabbit. Oh my god. Yeah, she was
1:07:31
going to Saint Louis Moss so stupid. Okay, Saint Louis, that's not
1:07:34
that bad. No, the golden arches, there's the McDonald's. Oh my
1:07:39
god, we're gonna get a letter again. And there's some arches or something
1:07:42
there. There's a the Saint Louis Arches. Okay, yes, yes,
1:07:45
it isn't congratulations on making a giant McDonald's. But whatever, it's only one
1:07:49
of the arch Okay. So you couldn't even finish the arch arches. Yeah,
1:07:55
well they didn't paint in gold either, so I don't know. Yeah.
1:07:57
So I mean, okay, we're gonna get a letter. I'm sure
1:08:00
we'll get a letter. But evidently you can go to the top and look
1:08:03
out. Well, so you can. You can do that at the Sydney
1:08:05
Bridge, Stewart, would you You wouldn't even climb up there though, No,
1:08:09
I wouldn't. Okay, are we done? I mean I'm done.
1:08:15
I mean I'm done with you. Bitch runs across the thing, gets in
1:08:16
trouble. Saint Louis arches McDonald I mean, who runs out there trying to
1:08:19
stop her? I did watch a thing. The reason that the French fries
1:08:23
at McDonald's taste so good is because they actually add beef to the oil,
1:08:27
and that's why they taste a little bit different. Anyway, why they got
1:08:30
saved by the people, But we're right, oh yeah, because they were
1:08:32
vegetarians. Because I was a vegetarian for a long time and I used to
1:08:35
mow down them McDonald's fries and I didn't. You could have get on that
1:08:39
cash. I've been like rich, I've been like Alec Murdock, be like
1:08:45
whatever fucking killed people years? No, you would have got a dollar fifty.
1:08:49
That's not even enough to buy a fry. It's not well, you
1:08:53
could have got a small fry maybe on the nine and nine cent meal.
1:08:56
You're a small fry, all right. So that's all. That's our episode.
1:09:00
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