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- This is Live On Purpose Radio, episode 699, the sum of four with Blue Styling. Now is the only time to create and live the life you love. I'm doctor Paul Jenkins, the positivity psychologist. My job is to connect you to powerful positive psychology principles that immediately upgrade your relationships, business, and mental health. Are you ready? Let's jump in. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to Live on Purpose Radio. This is doctor Paul, the shrink who expands your life, And we have another episode today with an amazing guest. You know that I invite great guests here. What if the key to greater achievement wasn't doing more, but connecting better? In this episode, I am joined by author and speaker, Blu Steiley. He wrote a book called the sum of four, the secret equation to accelerating achievement. Welcome to Live On Purpose Radio, Blu. Thank you so much, Paul, for having me on. Seriously, I'm very, very excited and I want to share some knowledge and some value to your audience. And I just, I look up to you and thank you for connecting with me. So let's bring it. Let's roll with the moment. This is kind of payback too. Cause I was on your mic recently. And in fact, your episode just dropped today, actually. Oh, awesome. You know what? This is the, the cool thing about collaboration Mhmm. Because you have a podcast, I have a podcast, you're a speaker, I'm a speaker. But you know what? The audiences that I speak to this year, they don't necessarily want me back next year. Mhmm. And so as we form these kinds of relationships, we're able to expand the reach. And I really appreciate it just being able to hang out with you on your podcast. And now that you've agreed to come on mine, so glad you're here. Yeah. Thank you. And and that's the other thing. It's like, there's more than just, like, one ability. Like, it it... That is a thing that I think a lot of people should hear and understand. Like, it's like, you can't have everything. And it's like, why not share the wealth with all those people? And you're right. You're hitting it on the the the nail on the head in the sense that that most speaking engagements are only gonna be once a year. So why not refer your friends and the people that you trust and that you have a real and genuine relationship with with the other speakers that that might have a message that will resonate better or equally or in a different way with that audience. So being able to have these kinds of collaborations, connection are so so important in any industry, not just the speaking industry. Well, and how much more powerful is it for me, for example, if I reach out to one of the meeting planners that's worked with me and say, hey. Check out my friend Blue Styley. Mhmm. As opposed to, hey. Here's an interview I did with Blue Styling. Go listen. See what you think. And that way you get to share some of your brilliance, your knowledge, your experience in a way that's going to elevate everybody who gets to hear this today. 100%. 100%. So blue, you wrote a book, which is right here in front of me, the sum of four, and the subtitle is here, the secret equation to accelerating achievement. You've broken it down into four primary categories there. It's kind of an equation. These things come together to accelerate your achievement. Walk us through that if you will. Just share with us what have you found, and while you're doing that, I would love to hear a little bit of why is this even important to you? Well, I I think I I touched on that just for a second at the very beginning when we started talking, and that is that I did not write a book to make a million dollars. It would be really nice if I became Dan Sol then I sold a 100,000,000 copies or something like that. But the real reason I did is to to share my legacy with my my kids and so that they could better understand my my life and how I got to where I was. And if I could take a lot of information and break it down and share with them and give them nuggets and value, then maybe they would decide to listen to me as a child. Right? And say, hey. If dad did it, I could do it too. Hey. This is what my dad did, and this is these are the little things that he did that that got him to succeed at x, y, and z. Maybe I can apply that. So that was the real reason that I that I began writing, let's say, a legacy passed down. But the true reason was that my martial arts instructor, who was a father figure to me in my life and a man who changed my life completely since the time I was eight years old, he... When he died and my father died in the same month, I I basically write... Began writing a diary, of all the life lessons and habits that I've learned from both of them, like a rich dad, poor dad style. And everyone that I had met, and I was telling them about this diary that I was writing about them. They're like, you have a book, man. Like, this is a legit book. And I was like, but I didn't go to school to write. I had no idea. Mhmm. But they were like, you really need to put this together in, into something. And so I did. And, I I started doing so, and then I've turned it into a an editor, and it came back with more red on it than black and white. So it looked like it went through a CSI event. And, a good friend of mine, a New York time best selling author told me, he was like, do you want to be an author or a wanna be writer? And I said, well, I wanna be a writer. And he said, well, then change what they said. Because if the editor didn't understand, your audience wouldn't understand it. And so I did. I changed it, and it hurt because I wanted to quit because I knew how much time and effort I was gonna have to put into doing it. But I did, and it came back a little less read the next time and a little less read the next time and then finally took off. And that was kind of the the story of me launching a book based off of all the life lessons and habits that I learned from my instructor, and through through all of my mentors in my life. And that was that was the bones of it. And it basically came together that I have become who I am today, not because of me, but because of all the people that have been in my life. And if you think about it for a second, how many people helped get you to where you are today? And I bet that list is very long. It's, like a CVS receipt long. Right? And, I just realized, like, if you're willing to put yourself out there and ask for help, most people wanna help you. And so I was thrown at eight years old into a dojo, which was a community, my martial arts instructors community, where I was surrounded by people who are better than me, in every way. They outranked me. They... They're from all different kinds of races and and spoke different languages. And I was just this sponge in a petri dish that was willing to learn. And I was curious, and I was using critical thinking at the age of eight until, you know, until I moved out of the Spokane. And I was just so lucky. But what I realized is that the power of mentorships and the Japanese believe in a senpai kohai relationship, where they teach the the underling. And I realized, like, man, all you have to do is ask and surround yourself around people who are better than you and maybe not always be the best or the smartest in the in the the room. And people are willing to share their knowledge with you. And I was just a sponge, and I feel so blessed to have learned that at a very, very early age. I love that you're starting there, Blue. And in fact, your book, this is the first area that you really explore, mentor. It's part of the sum of four. Mhmm. And the first part, really, as as we surround ourselves with and pay attention to those who have reasons to know stuff, people who have been on the planet longer, people who have demonstrated an demonstrated an ability to solve whatever problem it is that's kicking our butt right now. And that's at least that's what comes to my mind when, when you bring out this mentorship idea. Well... And and I would say that a lot of people misunderstand what a mentor is. They think that a mentor might be someone that you take out for lunch or coffee in hopes that they get you an internship or a job. And that's not what a real mentor is. A real mentor is someone who understands your strengths and weaknesses, is happy for you when you succeed, and cares about whether or not you're going to succeed. And hopefully, along the way, they tell you what pitfalls to avoid. They can put up guardrails. They can tell you how to shorten the distance of getting from a to z. And it's like, those are the greatest mentors. And so if you can surround yourself around people who have gone where you wanna go or have what you have or have what you want, ask them how they got there. Don't be jealous. Don't be mad. Don't blame other people for you where you're at. Ask them, and they are probably gonna be willing to help you. And that is the power of a mentor or a coach or a great parent or a great instructor, a teacher. It's someone who can actually maybe possibly walk through the fire with you, Okay? Rather than just make you do it alone. A friend of a friend of mine, Bert Thornton, he was the CFO or he was the CEO of the Waffle House. He wrote a book called Find Your Old Gorilla. And it's, like, basically, like, find the gray haired gorilla in the jungle because they know where all the bananas are, and they know where everything is. It's like it's just gonna cut and shorten the learning curve for you. And there is somebody out there who has done what you wanna do. There is somebody out there who has what you want. Ask them how they did it. It's the greatest... It's the quickest way that I've ever found to achieving what I wanna achieve. I agree a 100%. And it's still an option to do it the slow way. It's still an option to do it the expensive way. But what if you could save time, money, pain, and agony? Because you're humble enough to pay attention to those who have reasons to know. And I think that that is a big, I I want people to hear that. It's that it... You have to be willing and curious enough to be okay with asking for help. Right? And if you don't and if you think you know everything or if you think you're the best, man, every successful person that I know that has achieved something great didn't do it alone. And they had somebody who knew more than them or or could figure it out. And I've just found that if you ask somebody who's gone through it before you, that's the easiest way to do it. And it might not always work. It it might not always work. The way that they got there might not be the way, and we'll get into that. I am sure. Right. But thinking, like you were saying earlier, for you to think, hey. I've got this. I know this. I can do this myself. That's a very expensive idea. Mhmm. And it doesn't have to be. If you're humble enough... I think humility is giving up our need to be right in exchange for being open and realizing, okay, there's things I I don't see yet. Well... And and then that might come in time. Right? That might be almost a skill set that you learn how to do because I... The the the old old wives tale about men never asked for directions. I'm like, I will ask for directions immediately because it will save me gas. It will save me time. I'm like, just give me the the z. Right? Like, help me. Yeah. So it it is something that you have to be willing to be able to put yourself out there and ask. And it's scary. Right? Is it... You might be rejected. You might you might be afraid of of being told no or something. But if you just ask, you show the people we'll help you. Because how awesome does it feel to help somebody and answer something for someone? Well, I've been on both sides of that. I know you have too. And it's in my heart, really, to share some things that I've learned to save some people time, effort, money, pain. If I can, if they're open to it, I'm more than willing to share it. And I still believe even, you know, as I get into my next decade, because my twin sister turns 60 next month, just saying. And as I get into this next decade, I am thinking, I I don't know if I know anything more than I used to. In fact, there are several ways that I feel like I don't know as much as I think I did. Mhmm. Right? Or as I thought I did. Mhmm. And that that level of openness just makes it so that I have access to some of the brilliant minds on the planet. Even having this podcast, you know, I get to talk to people like Blue Stiley and just learn and and absorb and be mentored by other people on the planet who are just solving problems that I have yet to take on. Well, and you and I are on the front row seat, of of having a communication or or some kind of connection with another person when we interview another person. Or... And and it doesn't have to be on a podcast. I would want everybody to know that. Like, it does not mean to be behind a microphone. I can go do it at the Starbucks. I can go meet somebody in the office. Right? And it's like... Is... I call it find your table. Like, whatever that table might look like metaphorically or literally. It could be the, the water cooler. It could be the air... Airplane seat that you're sitting next to somewhere where you can have a real and genuine connection with someone because you can learn from them. Because we all have experiences and stories and knowledge that you can share. And you have to be curious enough to realize, like, you don't know everything. So if you let someone tell your story, you're probably gonna learn something from somebody. Alright. We've only really talked about one of the four. What? Take us to develop next. Let's see how far we can get here. But Okay. Develop. What is that all about for you? So once someone tells you how they got to to wherever they're... Wherever you wanna go, they can give you the tools, but it's up to you to practice them and get the reps in. Right? And so Yes. I know that, I can teach you how to do a push up. Right? You could wear the right clothes. You could wear... You could listen to the right Rocky Balboa music to get pumped up, and you could watch enough YouTube videos to get really good at it, or you could warm up your muscles or or you could just do the push up. Right? And so as you're doing the push up, I can critique it, and I can help you, and I can mentor you. But it's like you have to get the reps in, and so eventually you're going to get better. And you have to develop that skill. And so whatever it is, whatever goal or destination that you wanna achieve, people will give you the tools, but you have to apply them, and you have to develop that skill set. So if it's learning to be a better networker, for example, are you the person that's afraid to go into a room and you're you're you're skittish and you don't you don't wanna go talk to people? And you're like, oh, okay. Well, I can tell you, like, no one in this room is here to not talk to people. Everybody here wants to learn and meet new people. So immediately, let's let... That's a tool. Okay. So if I'm not the only person in here who doesn't want to meet with somebody and you don't want to go into fail, okay, that should open it up. Another thing is smile at people. Wave your hands. Go from a to b and just island hop and go back and forth. I'm giving you tools, but it's up to you to start practicing those tools. How many networking events are you going to? What are you doing? So it is the developing the skills that you are need to require and become efficient at in order for you to succeed. As I was reading your book blue, I was thinking about how the there's two kinds of learning from a very psychological perspective. You think about this, there's the moment. Okay. I call that breakthrough learning. Yeah. And that's when the lights go on and it's ringing and singing, right? It's sticking and clicking. It's like, yeah. I love that. I love that. Yeah. And then there's transformational learning. And this is the kind of learning that takes it. We, we like to say it takes time, but it's not time. Time is just what passes as you're doing all of the things you're putting in the reps, you're getting the instruction you're, you're developing and building the skill. You're reprogramming your brain. So, another good example of this, I think you, I think martial arts is in that area and you talk about your mentor in your martial arts experience and how important that was to you. Well, you can know that you want to learn martial arts and that doesn't, that doesn't change your belt color. Right? I mean, you gotta go put it in there. You gotta get in the dojo. You gotta put in some reps. Learning a language is another one. I'm I just hit four fifty, I think four fifty days in Duolingo, learning Spanish. And even that, I mean, I... I'm doing daily practice there, but going outside and talking to my neighbors in Espanol, that's so much better. Oh, but but that's throwing yourself in an environment that is scary and in in... And you know more about this, about how your brain works. And it's like being thrown into an environment where it's uncomfortable is where you're gonna learn and develop even faster. I love that you said that. So let's skip back really quick and and kinda give your audience an idea. Like, growing up with the name blue was awful. I got picked on and beat up all the time. And I... Not even a name. It's a color. I know. Well, fair enough. And it's not even my favorite color. But I had hippie parents, and I got beat up for it. And so my parents put me into martial arts. And when my instructor... When I met my instructor, he told me that he was going to teach me how to punch and kick, but I had to learn to fall first. And I had no idea that I didn't know how to fall already. I mean, it was putting one foot in front of the other. It was pretty pretty easy to fall, and it was usually followed by an explicit language or vocabulary word afterwards. So... But for two months, I learned how to fall. Literally learn how to fall. I thought I was gonna walk in. I was gonna be a ninja. I was gonna be doing ninja kicks and Chuck Norris flips and things. And I I wanted to be a ninja more than anything because if I was a ninja, I could beat up the the bullies who picked on me. But I wasn't, and I had to learn to fall. And I... It was putting the reps in. And what I was basically learning how to do at that age was, to create a foundation. And so I had a foundation that I was building that then I could start putting the puzzle pieces in, the border pieces in and trading those in and out. But that took time to develop. Right? But it was to create that foundation first so that then I could begin to develop who I was going to become and eventually reach the ranks that that I did. So as we're going through your model here, mentor, develop. Next is execute. Mhmm. There's some subtle differences between the develop stage and the execute. Turn turn those lights on for us. Well, as you're developing them, you're starting to to get the reps in, and your your body might become coordinated, but you don't know everything. Right? You you you do not know. You can do them, but you're maybe not as efficient as somebody else. And so at what... At some point, you have to then transition into the Japanese believe that you don't really truly know something unless you can teach it. And so as I was going along, I was being thrown just like you to learn Spanish, for example, and you and and you go and you speak to gardeners or you speak to the Uber driver or whatever it is, you put yourself in that environment where it's, like, scary and, like, you're all senses are heightened. Well, when you're learning, you don't know everything. And so my instructor started making me teach the the kids classes. And I realized, like, I don't really understand why this is happening or what... What's behind this. And an instructor told me one time he was like, Blue, when you do a... When you do a, let's say, a reverse punch, what muscles are you using? I'm like, well, I don't know. Your arm muscles, like, we'll take that arm away. What's gonna happen? I'm like, well, and he and he deconstructed it. It's almost like reverse engineering. And when you can reverse engineer something and you can put it back together, you should be able to teach it. And that is the execution part of it is that it's like there's a point of developing, but then you have to be able to reconstruct it and to be able to pass that along to somebody else. And when you become the mentor or the mentee, you're swift... You're switching and being able to switch that position. One of the things that I teach when I'm doing a training, for example, for entrepreneurs, one of the things I love to teach them how to do is a Rubik's cube. Those are awful. This is wrong.... Near impossible for most people. Right? No. And there's... Hold hold on. I'm gonna totally pause you because I... What... My daughter is... Has this best friend, and I went over to his home and he brought a Rubik's cube out. And I was like, what? I go, those are awful. I used to take the stickers off and, like, put... Like, place them back. And he did it less than a minute. He did it in less than a minute, and he's 11 years old. And I was like, what is it? And he he started to show me that there was a a strategy behind it, a rhythm. Right? And I was like, I should have known this forty years ago. Well, it's it's not magic. It's not luck. There are moves. You learn your moves, then you practice your moves. Mhmm. See, this is a great metaphor for the sum of four. Somebody... You you don't just figure out how to do a Rubik's cube. Somebody teaches you. Yeah. That's the way everybody does it. Somebody teaches them. And then once you know the moves, you still can't solve the cube unless you're following the instructions still. You gotta practice those moves repeatedly until you get them down. But here's the next level of mastery. And this was so fun, Blue, because I taught my daughter how to solve a Rookas cube. Mhmm. My wife wasn't interested. Okay. Fair enough. And she knew how to solve one as a teen, but she had forgotten or whatever. I taught my daughter and my daughter taught my wife. And I watched this kind of from the distance. I watched my wife learn the skill, but I watched my daughter's level of mastery just go up five or six notches. And confidence. Yes. And so that's what comes to my mind when we're talking about this execute part, which I think ties into your last of these four, which is succeed. So I'm I'm gonna give you a chance to talk about that for a minute too. What is succeed all about? Well, success means something different to every one of us. Right? And it might be having a a jet. It might be having x number of dollars in the bank account. But for me, at my age and where I'm at right now, it's having time with my kids, being able to pick them up at school or have dinner every night with them. And so success means something different for everybody. But no matter what it is, the goal or the destination that you want to achieve, getting to that level or getting to that specific spot, that goal is there is a point that you can get to it. Now that goal poll that goal post might change over time. Right? But to be able to get to it, then you can check off your box. Right? And that only comes after putting in the reps, developing your skill set, coordinating and collaborating and connecting with the right people who can help you get there. And so after you've done all those things, you eventually succeed at whatever that goal is. Now the hard part is what a lot of people don't understand is that it takes a long time to reach certain goals. There are some goals. Like, I can go I can go mow mow my lawn or I can go back in the garden, and that's an immediate satisfaction. But, like, an entrepreneur, for example, to start a successful business and hit x number of dollars or whatever it is that you want your ROI to be or whatever it is, it it can take a very, very long time podcasting. Like, to hit a million subscribers, to get 10,000 subscribers, 500 subscribers. Those are different goals that you can keep setting and pushing off. But it's like, once you get to that certain success level, like, can you check it off? And if you put in all those times and all those reps, eventually you're going to achieve it. But it's doing the mundane over and over consistently over time with intent and purpose. Eventually, you will succeed. And that the rate at which you succeed, the time that it takes you to succeed can be limited or sped up by the people you connect with, the collaborations, the connections that you make. The more authentic you're willing to ask and be vulnerable and humility wise to ask for help. To be okay with failing. If you're not okay with failing, you're in the wrong business. Like, it it just... It's setting you up. Right? Every time we fail, it's just... It's that setter that that setback or that challenge is just another way of figuring out how to get to your goal. You gotta learn how to fall. You do... You have to learn how to fall because you're never gonna be thrown in the same way. You're... Right. If you trip over a car, it's gonna be a different fall than if somebody throws you with an or something. Or if you get smacked across the face in a bar and you fall backwards. It's a different kind of fall if you... If you're drinking and you pass out. It's a different kind of fall than when you're... When you and your wife divorce, when you go through a bankruptcy. Every fall is gonna be different. Every bankruptcy is gonna be different. Everything that happens is gonna be different. And so you have to learn how to fall and you have to be able to pivot and manipulate and and move around because there's no right or wrong way of falling. You're gonna fall no matter what. And if you stay consistent over time, you eventually will succeed. You know, I told you before we even turned on the recording as we were chit chatting a little bit before our episode here today that I just came back from a hike with my grandson. This is his first hike. He's never done... He's nine. K? And he's never really hiked before, and he wanted to. In fact, he's got this goal that he wants to climb Mount Everest. And I'm like, dude. No. Thanks. No. Thanks. But go ahead. Yeah. That's a lot of mountain. Right? For somebody who's never hiked. And so I took him... I I live right in the foothills of the Wasatch Mountains in Utah. And Brigham Young University is about five miles from my house. Up on the mountain is the big block y that they light up at homecoming and everything, you know, and it's about a mile up there and it's steep. And so I thought, okay, here's a starter. And so we went, we hiked up to the Y. It took us forty minutes to go one mile and his face is all red and he's huffing and puffing. But it was so interesting because we succeeded. Going back to your number four in the sum of four, succeed. We succeeded. Check it off. We're there. We sat down. We looked at it. We took a selfie, did a little video. Guess we're done. Success is a journey, not a destination. Now we're going to check off. We're going to have mile posts, right? And this one was literally a mile post. It was a mile up the mountain, But here we are and we're up there on this. Why? And I watched him. He turned around and he looked up and he said, We could go to the top of the Y. And it's about as big as a football field. I mean, this is one of the biggest block letters of any institution anywhere. We could go to the top of the y. So I already saw his little brain processing this, you know, success. Yeah. We check this off. Now what? Yeah. But that's your continuous... Your curiosity to continuously grow. Right? Because school does not end the day that you graduate from school. Life is your school. And the people that just sit back because mediocrity should never be celebrated. We need to continuously improve ourselves because earlier you had mentioned, like, oh, you know, in ten years, it's like, no. I wanna be better tomorrow than I am today, and I wanna be better in ten years than I am today. I I... If you ask me, like, in ten years, would you wanna be the same or better? I'm like, well, I wanna be better. Well, how do you get better? You associate with people who are better than you so you can continuously learn. You can read self help books. You can start a business. You can learn to fail. You can do things and start back. You can make better connections. You can listen to podcasts. And it's like, it should be a con... That goal post should be moving, but you should be create... You should be succeeding along the way and creating those those confidence anchors. So... Okay. If I can climb that mile, now I can check this off. If I did it once, now I can do it again because now it's only two of those. Right? And it's like... But it's the people that stop and that don't wanna continuously learn and don't wanna continuously challenge themselves that become the mediocre. All you have to do is go three to 5% more, and you're gonna be better than them. Right? And so it's like, okay. Don't get passed by because we're in the... In an era right now where people are are just like, oh, what's the standard quota? It's like, no. Why... All it takes is you to go a little bit more. And so why not associate with people that can help you get there? Love that. You know, just as you were saying, you graduate from school, you're not done. We call it commencement. Right? The commencement ex... Commencement means begin. Mhmm. To commence something means you start. And that's interesting to me because when we graduate, we call it commencement. Mhmm. We're not finishing. I mean, we are. We're finishing school, but we're starting something even even better. Well, okay. So then that... And let's go back to martial arts because this does tie into this. And and I don't wanna be known as the only martial arts gal, although I am a ninja, is that, I used to think that once you got your black belt, you were at the top. You were the number one. You were like, okay. That's all I need to do. And I didn't realize that once you get your black belt, that just meant that you understood the basic fundamentals. And that was the point then that you had developed a certain skill level, but then you had to begin to execute it in order to succeed to get your second degree and your third degree and your fourth degree and your fifth degree because life didn't stop at at the first black belt. But a lot of people do. A lot of people in every dojo and every martial art that I've been to, if they can just get to black belt, then they quit. But that... That's the beginning. Yeah. That's the that's the point where it gets fun. That's when it becomes exciting because then as you move along, you then become the teacher because the fourth and fifth degree black belts are the ones when you become the teacher. And so it's like that journey in and of itself of learning how to become a teacher and then becoming the teacher, that's... You just give back. And it's... And you do that in podcasting and speaking as well. Love that. Alright, folks. The name of the book is the sum of four. It's by our friend, Blue Stiley, s t I l e y, and there's a .com for that, bluestiley.com. Where else would you invite people to connect with you, Blue? How do you want our listeners today to respond? I'm basically on LinkedIn. I'm on all platforms, but That's where I found you. Out. Yeah. I hang hang out basically on on LinkedIn. Do you have a moment for me to explain why I came up with the name or the title of the sum of four? Sure. Okay. So if I had everybody listening right now, if you were trying to get to a certain destination, you were trying to get to the y... BYU. Right? So it's like you're trying to get there. Every one of us... If if you have a giant boulder in front of you, you probably wouldn't stop. You would pull out your phone driving to wherever you're going, and you would say reroute. And it would find a path or a different a different way around that giant boulder because most of us aren't gonna stop, and you're not gonna go back home. You're gonna find a way around that. And what that is called in math and science is equifinality, which basically means that there's multiple, if not infinite ways of achieving a certain result or goal or destination. There is no right or wrong way of achieving a certain goal or destination. Every one of us is gonna be on a different journey. Some of us will take a more scenic route. Some of us will be a little less expensive route. But the point is that we can all get to four. Because for you, two plus two might be four. And for me, it might be three three plus one. And for somebody else, it might be five minus one even though that's not a sum. Okay? But the point is is that there's multiple, if not infinite, ways of getting to wave four. And the four is just a fictitious number. It's like, how do you get to the goal or destination? The point is is that you keep going no matter what, you're eventually gonna get to that four. No matter what life throws at you, what challenges, what lightning strikes is what I think you called it. It's like you were all gonna have these setbacks, but don't give up. Just keep moving forward. It is just a door that you have not learned how to unlock. And there's always a path forward. Always. And that is whether it's a mental seeing it forward or it's believing that you can find the path. Right. And it might take you a few two sets of goal or, a a few sets of keys to find it, but you eventually will. Maybe you're gonna crash to that door. Maybe you jump over it or maybe you dig under it or you go around the left or you kick it down with a ninja kick. The point is is that if it's a goal that you really prioritize and if you put intent and purpose behind it, eventually, you will achieve that goal. And the secret that I've found is if you find other people who've gotten to that goal, go ask them how they did it because it'll will help. Yes. And keep listening to podcasts like this because this is where you get to hear people like Blu Styley. Blu, thank you so much for blessing us today here at Live On Purpose Radio. Thank you so much, Paul. Alright. You guys, you've heard it. Time to go apply it. Let's go live on purpose. Did you get what you came for? Give yourself the gift of taking real action on what you realized today. Please share this episode with someone you know would value it, and leave us a rating too. It's time now to live on purpose.