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- 1:05Hey, good morning everyone. Welcome to the Coffee People
- 1:08Podcast, which is part of the Roast West Coast Coffee Network
- 1:13and presented by Rostar Coffee Packaging.
- 1:16If you roast great coffee and you want to showcase it in a
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- 1:24I'm Ryan Wolt and this is the Coffee People Podcast where we
- 1:28meet interesting people from all corners of the coffee industry.
- 1:32Today I'm sharing some quick meet and greets from last week's
- 1:34Coffee Fest. Anaheim industry conventions
- 1:38like Coffee Fest are an opportunity to meet with a ton
- 1:41of different people who work in all aspects of coffee, from
- 1:45packaging to green coffee sourcing and roastery buildouts.
- 1:49The Anaheim event was held in conjunction with the Western
- 1:51Food Service and Restaurant Expo, which is a longwinded way
- 1:55of saying hospitality. If there was an unofficial theme
- 1:59to the day, it was that the future is going to be filled
- 2:01with robots and plant based foods.
- 2:04More than one robot server shared the aisles with those of
- 2:07us wandering around looking for bourbon barrel aged cold brew
- 2:10samples, which thankfully I found.
- 2:14I was there to interview visitors to the Hassaya Coffee
- 2:17source vendor booth Brothers and coowners of the Green Coffee
- 2:20Importing Company. Luke and Jared Hales were there
- 2:24to meet potential clients, support their current ones, and
- 2:27just keep tabs on the pulse of the industry.
- 2:30For some reason, they invited me along for the ride.
- 2:34While you're listening today, you can head to say A Coffee to
- 2:37see all the green coffee they are currently offering and their
- 2:40upcoming coffee tasting and education sessions.
- 2:43Jared is a regular contributor to Roast West Coast with his
- 2:46monthly green coffee column, which is really good.
- 2:50I'm not a home or commercial roaster, but I always learn
- 2:53something new from Jared when we talk for the column.
- 2:56Also, you can and should check out Roast westcoast.com.
- 3:00In this episode's post, I'll share links to the interviewees
- 3:04as well as some details on my own experience at Coffee Fest.
- 3:08Right now I'm ready to drink a coffee.
- 3:11How about you? I hope your coffee mug is full,
- 3:14because it is time to meet a bunch of new coffee people on
- 3:17this episode, recorded primarily at Coffee Fest Anaheim.
- 3:32Yeah, absolutely. My name is Bree McDonald.
- 3:35I'm the roaster at John Coffee Down in Mira Mesa.
- 3:39I'm here at Coffee Fest just for personal networking, for
- 3:42business networking, because I love to get to see more coffee
- 3:45people and taste coffee, and I love coffee in general, just
- 3:50because it's exciting. It's it's fun to get to taste
- 3:52something different in a different cup of coffee every
- 3:55time you try it and see what comes up and that's makes it
- 4:00pretty cool. It's it's never there's never a
- 4:02dull moment. In coffee, for sure.
- 4:04So Speaking of trying coffee, when you go to a coffee shop
- 4:07like John. What do you order?
- 4:09Usually a pour over if there's a natural or an anaerobic on the
- 4:13menu. Definitely one of those.
- 4:16Favorite origin being Ethiopia generally, but I've been really
- 4:19enjoying Colombia's of late. A lot of fun experimental stuff
- 4:23going on. I'm actually going to be down by
- 4:25John next week or so. What should I order there?
- 4:29Oh. We have a new.
- 4:31Blue Bay Cold foam Cold brew that like just rolled out this
- 4:35week, supposedly really good. It looks really pretty too,
- 4:37because it's got like a layer of purple foam on the top and then
- 4:40the cold brew or an avocado. We're also doing those for
- 4:43summer. It sounds Instagram ready.
- 4:45Yeah, it's definitely Instagram ready.
- 4:47Thanks please. Sure.
- 4:52My name is Tyler Toms. I I'm with percussive coffee and
- 4:56I do a lot of roasting and education on the side as well
- 5:00and. I love coffee because it reminds
- 5:03me of being at home, which is my favorite place, and it's just.
- 5:07And it's a. Bottomless pit of science and
- 5:10and knowledge left to be discovered.
- 5:12So what do I drink? I drink.
- 5:16I have jink just about anything. My favorites right now are some
- 5:20Aleta Naturals and Dragonfly coffee roasters.
- 5:24That's getting a lot of coffee from them and you just want to
- 5:26plug them, I guess. Where can people find percussive
- 5:30coffee? Bakersfield, CA in the Central
- 5:32Valley. OK, My name is Leon.
- 5:36Uh, last name is NIA. I'm from China.
- 5:38My company's name is region copy.
- 5:41So the main reason I love copy because it was my hobby.
- 5:45I'm just gradually charging my whole life and myself.
- 5:49So I just got like, I fall in love with it since since like a
- 5:54eight years ago. Yeah, that's how it started.
- 5:56You just change everything. Yeah, I learned from it too.
- 5:59I love that, yeah. Then my next question for you is
- 6:03when you go to a coffee shop, what do you order?
- 6:06All right, simply I will grab a drip if I want a hot coffee.
- 6:10Even on the iced coffee, just cobra ice my condo to check them
- 6:13out. Simple.
- 6:14Easy, yeah? Here's, here's you have
- 6:16something very cool here at the show.
- 6:19Can you tell me what the Bourbon Cobra?
- 6:20Concept is so. It's a black coffee and we
- 6:24developed during the. I mean after a few years we
- 6:29started just from like an experience from drinking other
- 6:33coffee business beret age coffee, but is being aged after
- 6:37roasting taste. Actually, to balance now fresh.
- 6:41And then we just had this idea why we just aged the green
- 6:44coffee, because we're roaster. We aged the green coffee and try
- 6:48it. And we've been liking Ethiopian
- 6:50personally, I mean, just like Ethiopian, my favorite coffee
- 6:53overall in general. So I tried that first.
- 6:55I bought a brand new barrel. And we season with whiskey.
- 6:58This idea we made-up right away and turn out good.
- 7:02Surprisingly so the first try succeeded and now been just
- 7:07digging along with that path. We failed so many times a
- 7:09different coffee still so far we have 5.
- 7:12So it's like a freshly brewed, freshly roasted, but age before
- 7:16that. Very cool yeah.
- 7:18So it's really unique process and the fun process for for for
- 7:21drinking and making coffee. Very cool.
- 7:23Thank you SO. Much.
- 7:24Yeah. You're welcome.
- 7:25Thank you for having me. All right, so let's start with
- 7:29what's your name and your company and how did you end up
- 7:32partnered with Assaya? This is Matt with Golden Lantern
- 7:36Coffee Roasters. We have known Assaya for a
- 7:39couple of years. They're not only fantastic
- 7:41humans, Jared was a friend in his previous coffee ventures.
- 7:45He was kind of a mentor before I even had a company.
- 7:48So when I decided to go full time into coffee and kind of
- 7:51launch the business, you know, Jared was the first person I
- 7:53went to. He's been there with guidance
- 7:56since day one. So he's not only a fantastic,
- 7:59you know, who knows more about coffee than anyone I know, but
- 8:02he's also a fantastic human and friends.
- 8:04So a partnership with us say it just made sense from day one.
- 8:07Golden Lantern is located Where? How can people find Golden
- 8:10Lantern? We are in South Orange County,
- 8:14so we live in South County and living in Niguel we wanted to be
- 8:17in an area where we could grow a.
- 8:19Lot of what? We do is new to the community
- 8:22down in South Orange County, so you can find us at our roastery
- 8:26and tasting room in Laguna Hills.
- 8:29Or you can find us on the web at Golden Lantern.
- 8:31Coffee roasters. You know Instagram, Facebook,
- 8:34goldenlanterncoffee.com, Physical address for roastery
- 8:3726072, Merritt Circle, Suite One O 1 in Laguna Hills, CA 92563.
- 8:45Most important question I have for you is when you go to a
- 8:48coffee shop that's not to your coffee shop, right?
- 8:50Right. What are you going to order?
- 8:52Espresso I I judge everything. I it's not only been my go to
- 8:55for years but I judge a lot of places on how they treat
- 8:58espresso. I, you know came up with like
- 9:01old school you know some some influences like David Shomer
- 9:06with a lot of people see is like the godfather of modern day
- 9:08espresso. So that's the first thing I do
- 9:11when I go to a new shop. It tells you so much about a
- 9:14shop is how they're treating their espresso, if they're
- 9:16roasting, how they're roasting for espresso, what they're
- 9:18electing to serve. There's just so much that goes
- 9:21into the preparation and the brewing of it.
- 9:24It is a totally beautiful science and that's how I judge,
- 9:27you know, basically the overall coffee or philosophy of a shop
- 9:31is how they're serving espresso. Well, I'll just ask you your
- 9:37name and the name of your company and why do you love
- 9:39coffee? Like right now.
- 9:42Yeah. Oh, oh, my name is Ben.
- 9:47Ben Wild. And I have a company that
- 9:51involves a couple employees and my wife and my kids help out
- 9:54sometimes it's two separate companies.
- 9:56I have a small importing company called Pacifica Renew.
- 10:00We're based. We started it in the Bay Area,
- 10:02but then moved to LA And then my I have family in Southern Utah.
- 10:06So really we operate out of a third party facility in the Bay
- 10:09Area. And then we have our own space
- 10:11in LA that's small and our own small space now in Utah as well.
- 10:14So we're just real small. Import just a handful of coffees
- 10:18that are, these are our favorite specialty coffees with a few
- 10:21farms and then sell them to roasters.
- 10:24But we also have our little roasting company in Chinatown,
- 10:27LA that we of course roast our own and that's a growing little
- 10:32business where we wholesale to a couple of counts and have our
- 10:37retail bags where we're developing retail through our
- 10:40website as well. What is it about coffee that you
- 10:43love or that draws you to the industry?
- 10:46It's like that. A lot of it's the ritual.
- 10:47Like the even if you're buying the coffee, there's the ritual
- 10:50if you get it in a cup for here. The 3rd way of and or specialty
- 10:54or whatever you want to call this aspect of the coffee
- 10:57industry is, is is to me something about the ritual of
- 11:01the experience. Of course when you're at home
- 11:03making a pour over or pulling espresso shots or whatever, it's
- 11:06even more of a ritual. And that's something I can do
- 11:08myself or I can do it with my wife or or friends and.
- 11:12So I love the ritual of coffee production and consumption.
- 11:17You know, like making it and enjoying it and then sharing it
- 11:19with people. And that's kind of what Drew
- 11:22drew us into it. When you are out on the road,
- 11:25say between facilities, and you stop to buy a cup of coffee or
- 11:28buy a coffee of some kind, what do you order?
- 11:31Well, actually I it's easier nowadays, but when I first got
- 11:35into I guess 3rd wave coffee in like 2011, it was really hard to
- 11:39find them. And I was like verb and
- 11:41Intelligentsia and counterculture.
- 11:42Right? A couple.
- 11:43Just a couple guys stumped down. So.
- 11:45But when I would go somewhere, I would look for anyone that
- 11:48carried them. I'd I'd Stour the Yelp pictures,
- 11:50anything. Just signs that oh, Oh my gosh,
- 11:52they have a malconic. They might have good coffee,
- 11:54right? And then I would plan my trip
- 11:56around the coffee shops, right? And then my favorite drink, when
- 12:00I want a little bit of calories would be like a cortado.
- 12:03So I can still taste the espresso.
- 12:05If I want something that I can sip on longer, if they make good
- 12:08pour overs, my hand pour right. So generally espresso is my
- 12:13favorite beverage, but I love pour overs.
- 12:14And then if I want some a little bit of milk, convert my espresso
- 12:17to a cortado. Easy peasy.
- 12:20That's it. Cool.
- 12:21All right. Yeah, my name is Matteo.
- 12:26I'm from Thoughts and Process Coffee.
- 12:28When Michael roasts out of Orange and I came here to Coffee
- 12:31Fest to bring some coffee with Hasia, I've actually found them.
- 12:34Online, just Googling Green coffee roasters locally and I
- 12:37live in Orange there in Anaheim. It's literally a 10 minute drive
- 12:40from their warehouse to my house.
- 12:41So it's been really nice to have a green coffee roaster that's
- 12:45got so much attention we have answered questions.
- 12:49They willing to work with you any kind of size, whether it's
- 12:52small, £2.00 to £1.00 to 65K bags like they're willing to
- 12:57work with you. And it's been great and Derek's
- 12:58been a great help. Offering a lot of good advice
- 13:01and you know, offering his own personal opinion with the
- 13:03coffees he carries, so I've been really happy using them for my
- 13:07green coffee source. On that 10 minute drive between
- 13:10your house and the and the green coffee facility, you stop and
- 13:12you get a cup of coffee. What are you going to order for
- 13:15yourself? Always ice Americano.
- 13:18If I'm feeling a little bit too tired, I'll do a cold brew black
- 13:21with the extra shot of espresso in it.
- 13:23Very cool. What are you serving today?
- 13:26Today I'm serving the Mexico cheapest the.
- 13:29Cool. I'll take the washed and there
- 13:31Guatemala hula tango, which has got a nice really good smooth
- 13:38flavor with a slight malic acid and some and the Mexico's got a
- 13:43nice honey in pear. The way I roasted it it's kind
- 13:45of light a little bit more on the medium side so bring really
- 13:48brings out more of the honey for that Mexico coffee.
- 13:51So it's it's been really nice. Yeah, my name is Lily, or little
- 13:55coffee geek on social media and everything.
- 13:57And I do coffee roasting and production consulting, so I kind
- 14:01of help. Those smaller roasters.
- 14:03Improve their roasts, improve their blends, and just kind of
- 14:06be more efficient with their processes.
- 14:09And when you are on your way here today or tomorrow, let's
- 14:12say. You stop and you get a cup of
- 14:14coffee somewhere. What do you order?
- 14:16Ooh, that's tough. If it's somewhere I've never
- 14:18tried before, I'll usually go for a pour over if they do pour
- 14:21overs, but if they only do bash brew then I do a cap.
- 14:28All of the interviews on today's show were held next to the
- 14:30Hassaya Coffee source booth except for one.
- 14:34In the next one you'll notice a change in the background audio
- 14:37at the Convention Center. It was mid afternoon on day one
- 14:41when I made my way over to the Mill City Roaster Truck, which
- 14:44was pretty cool. I was really excited to see a
- 14:47few comfortable chairs in the back where I could take a quick
- 14:50break. I planned on maybe even sneaking
- 14:53in a nap, but instead I met Mill City's lead Roaster, who is also
- 14:57a member of the Mill City Education team.
- 15:01Yeah, my name is Bryant Banker Scannell here at Coffee Fest
- 15:06with Mill City Roasters and with the Education team.
- 15:11As a lead roaster at Mill City Roasters.
- 15:13Very cool. And then when you are, when you
- 15:16are on your way here today for example, and you probably stop
- 15:18to get coffee, what do you normally order?
- 15:21Normally order is. Probably just like.
- 15:24A cup of drip, solid cup of drip.
- 15:26And you know, if they're doing a Cortado or Gibraltar, whatever,
- 15:31they're. Calling it these days I will
- 15:33take. That something?
- 15:34A nice dense espresso beverage and a nice cup of gel.
- 15:39I'm going to put you on the spot for one more question.
- 15:41Bring it on. What sets Mill City apart?
- 15:44That's Mill City apart. I mean, really the biggest thing
- 15:46is just like an emphasis on education.
- 15:49You know we. Really believe that education
- 15:51behind roasting is? Kind of a staple.
- 15:54In helping people move the needle to better tasting coffee.
- 15:58Out of the roaster and overall just.
- 16:01Coffee should be fun. So really trying to break down
- 16:03those walls. And marry the idea of like.
- 16:06Sensory analysis and like education about how to taste.
- 16:09Coffee, so that. You can make improvements in
- 16:12your roasting because you can't hit a target you can't taste.
- 16:18I started day two of Coffee Fest by interviewing Double J.
- 16:22He's a coffee lifer, coowner of Black Rabbit Service, a coffee
- 16:26equipment supply and repair company, and the Face of Coffee
- 16:29Break, a new coffee television show.
- 16:32From there it was back to the Hassaya Coffee Source booth to
- 16:36meet a bunch more new coffee people.
- 16:38So. All I need to know is what your
- 16:40name is, who you're working for here at Coffee Fest?
- 16:43And why do you love coffee? Yep.
- 16:45My name is Double J I'm with Black Rabbit Service and I Why
- 16:50do I love coffee? Was that one of the questions?
- 16:52Yeah, that's the first question. Why do I love coffee?
- 16:54I don't. I've been doing it since I was a
- 16:56kid. My My family owned a coffee shop
- 16:58when I was a kid. And so I.
- 16:59Sort of grew up in it and it's supported my family.
- 17:04For two generations now. Wow, that's cool.
- 17:07So then when you go to a coffee shop, I assume you have high
- 17:09expectations, but what would you order?
- 17:13At a new place to you. What's my my go to drink?
- 17:16I usually get a shot of espresso and something else.
- 17:19Like I like to pick something off the specialty menu or, you
- 17:23know, if they're doing something interesting, I like to to to try
- 17:26that. Very cool.
- 17:28And how can people find Black Rabbit service if they're not
- 17:31here? Sure.
- 17:32Black Rabbit service.com. We do equipment, service, Sales
- 17:37Tech. Support all that good stuff, so
- 17:38we're based. In Pacific Northwest and
- 17:40Southern California. And we can help you out wherever
- 17:44you are. Very cool.
- 17:46That's it. Cool.
- 17:48My name is Nick. I roast with legal speed, coffee
- 17:51and convenience. We've been around for about 6
- 17:54years now and what I love about coffee, honestly, is the
- 17:58community. That's what I like.
- 18:00I like. The people that we've met and
- 18:04and I still, even though we roast, I still love going to my
- 18:06local shop every morning and sitting and talking to people,
- 18:10talking to the baristas, talking to the owners of the cafes,
- 18:13that's my favorite part. When you show up at that shop,
- 18:16what do you order? So the local shop to me where I
- 18:19walk my dog every morning is called Play Coffee.
- 18:21And my favorite thing they do there is an espresso tonic that
- 18:24has like a kind of there's some bitters involved, some orange
- 18:27zest involved. It's real nice.
- 18:31My name is Frank Shipani and my coffee company's name is 3 Hats
- 18:35Coffee. OK, but your logo only has one
- 18:38hat, yes? Why?
- 18:40Well, at the markets when I meet my customers, I wear fedoras and
- 18:46it was a little bit of emblematic there, but the name
- 18:48is called 3 Hats because when I originally started, I set out to
- 18:52do this project essentially on my own.
- 18:55I was roasting, selling. Bagging stuff online orders,
- 18:59literally everything on the sun. I was just kind of doing it and
- 19:03I wanted it to be almost as like a an inspiration for other
- 19:07people to essentially say like, you know, if when you want to
- 19:10start something up, you just have to have a lot of Britain
- 19:11determination and do it. And I think having a good cup of
- 19:14coffee to get you started to do those things is, you know, a
- 19:18nice pair to the to the brand. If I said you had to say
- 19:22something nice about Josea Coffee Source, what would it be?
- 19:26Well, for starters, the the people at his CIA are fantastic
- 19:30and when I moved out to California, I'm originally from
- 19:34New York. The the Sierra Brothers put me
- 19:36under their wing and really helped expedite my my learning
- 19:39curve for the back end of coffee, coffee industry.
- 19:42They gave me like roasting fundamentals and kind of helped
- 19:46me navigate everything. So for someone who has no food
- 19:49and beverage experience and just coming in.
- 19:51They really set me up for success and I'm super grateful
- 19:56for them to be a part of my my company's journey.
- 20:00And you know, that's why I I stand committed to them and they
- 20:04also source fantastic coffee. I mean, it's just ridiculously
- 20:07good. So you didn't even have to do
- 20:09it, you. You wanted to do that?
- 20:10Well, they helped. Take that hat off my head.
- 20:12There you go. One less hat.
- 20:14Yeah. That was one less.
- 20:16Hat For sure? Where can people find 3 hats?
- 20:19Coffee Company. You can find me at a local
- 20:21farmers. Market on in Orange County or LA
- 20:24County, or if that's too far out of reach, you can find me at
- 20:27threehatscoffee.com. And three is spelt out, not the
- 20:31number 3. My name is Leela's Hot.
- 20:36My coffee company is True Love Coffee Company.
- 20:39Very cool. And what do you love about
- 20:41coffee, Lee? Oh, the ritual.
- 20:43Waking up, brewing it, roasting it just a slower pace at.
- 20:48Off coffee. Offers If you're not going to
- 20:51brew your own and you go somewhere you stop on the side
- 20:53of the road at a coffee stand. What would you order for
- 20:56yourself? I love filter coffee, filter
- 20:59coffee, espressos. And mostly filter coffee.
- 21:03And where can we find true love coffee?
- 21:05Daydream Squirrel Product, Social and online at True Love.
- 21:10Coffee.co Perfect. We'll check that out.
- 21:14Cool. Thank you.
- 21:17So I'm Andrew from Inflection Point Coffee in San Diego, CA.
- 21:21And what do you love about coffee?
- 21:25It it it always starts a conversation like, I I can't
- 21:28tell you. Like people, they just want to
- 21:29talk about their coffee. They want to talk about your
- 21:32coffee. They want to talk how they brew
- 21:34their coffee, how it's processed.
- 21:37It's it's a conversation starter like nothing else.
- 21:40I just, I love that about coffee.
- 21:41It builds community. Well, I know you've been
- 21:43growing. If I want to try some good
- 21:45coffee, as your tshirt said, where can I find inflection?
- 21:49All right, so we're in, Forbes. Farmers markets.
- 21:51Around San Diego can find us at the Mira Mesa Market, the
- 21:54Mission Valley Market, the La Jolla Open Air Market.
- 21:57Or in the Leucadia. Farmers market up in Encinitas
- 22:01and online. And online?
- 22:03All right. The Internet.
- 22:04Yes, that too. Excellent.
- 22:09Super easy. OK, never done it before, so now
- 22:13I'm all like, jittery. I'm ready.
- 22:15All you got to do is let us know what your name is and the name
- 22:17of your company, and it's a really interesting company.
- 22:20So what is it that you do? Sure.
- 22:22My name is Matthew Bryce. I own 7 Sleepers coffee labs and
- 22:26we train people who love coffee, who buy coffee in their local
- 22:29coffee shops, how to make it at home.
- 22:32We try and get it into the places where you work and the
- 22:35places where you love to drink your coffee.
- 22:38Very cool. And when you drink coffee, you
- 22:40stop at a shop somewhere in the world.
- 22:43What is it that you're going to order?
- 22:45Usually black coffee. I love coffee of all varieties,
- 22:49but usually a black cup of coffee, espresso, occasionally a
- 22:52cappuccino. Perfect.
- 22:54That's. It awesome.
- 22:56Oh, you know what? Let's wait.
- 22:57Also, before I forget, how can people find out more about 7
- 23:01sleepers? That's a good question right
- 23:05now. Right now, we're just on
- 23:08Instagram. And then I have like a a a
- 23:11business phone number and things like that.
- 23:13But Instagram is the best way I think.
- 23:14So Instagram at 7 Sleepers Coffee labs.
- 23:18Uh. My name is Meg Le Vu and our
- 23:23company is Black City Coffee and why do you love coffee?
- 23:28I love coffee for the self reflection of it all.
- 23:33That's a new one. I mean, I know there's all the
- 23:36obvious ones, but uh. I think what surprised me about
- 23:40coffee when I got into coffee was like how much it taught me
- 23:43about me. And I was like, what?
- 23:45Why? I was a little, like, perturbed
- 23:49about it too, you know? That's why am I learning about
- 23:52me? That's a really interesting take
- 23:55on it. I have not heard that before.
- 23:57Today at Coffee Fest you are serving coffee at the Say a
- 24:00Coffee Source booth. What are you serving and why did
- 24:04you choose to serve this one? Yeah, I came to.
- 24:07It was actually a really hard decision.
- 24:08I was like, maybe I'll make a cool blend.
- 24:11And my ego was was there and I was like, maybe I can make
- 24:14something cool out of something that's not cool, right?
- 24:17For me. And then I was like, it didn't
- 24:19turn out good. And I blogged about it and I
- 24:23told the world about it and I was like, you know what?
- 24:25I I just can't serve it, 'cause I don't love it.
- 24:29I don't love it versus like I'll buy moments where I'm like, I'm
- 24:33just, I'm just gonna do. What I do like, I don't know.
- 24:37I found like more truth there. And it's always a reflection of
- 24:42me at the end of the day. And so I'm like, why am I not
- 24:45serving something that I love, that I always love?
- 24:48It's okay if they don't love it and be prepared for that if they
- 24:52don't love it. And I was just going through
- 24:54this whole like thing personally and then I'll talk about it on
- 24:57camera, which is nice because it's like going to therapy.
- 25:00That is free except for all the equipment and all the stuff and
- 25:04the coffee that you. Those are the.
- 25:06Those are the hidden fees. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 25:08But for me, I was like, I got to serve something that I love.
- 25:11I've always looked. I know it would be a challenge
- 25:13to roast as well. And it took me four tries to get
- 25:16this one. So I've got my roasted sperm
- 25:18right here for everyone to see. And it's not standard, which I
- 25:22love that too. I'm like, you know what?
- 25:24It tastes good. And that's what it is not that's
- 25:27the number. And and then try to make the
- 25:28coffee. Yeah, so like for me, it's
- 25:31always a a window into self reflection and essence of life,
- 25:38really to me. And I would keep that on the
- 25:42download, but like, I'll have these moments for me and I'm
- 25:46like, cool. And then I'll, I get to share it
- 25:48and they get to drink it and that's cool.
- 25:50But for me, I've gone through all this stuff but I don't get
- 25:54to tell anybody about. And that's that's why I left
- 25:59coffee. Very cool.
- 25:59When you stop at a coffee shop somewhere out in the world just
- 26:02exploring, what do you order? I get a usually Americano or I
- 26:08get a pour over. I get their most basic cup
- 26:11because I want to see on a basic level what, what what you got
- 26:15going on. Because I don't want anything at
- 26:17don't hide anything from me because I feel like that's kind
- 26:19of how I am. Like with the channel, I'm
- 26:22always like this is what I do with I have no agenda.
- 26:25This is just what I do. And so I want to.
- 26:27When I go to coffee shop, I want to see that if if possible,
- 26:32where can people find your coffee or find your channel?
- 26:35How do they find out what it is that you do?
- 26:38Yeah, we're on YouTube and it's Black City Coffee Roasters.
- 26:42And you'll see me there with my face everywhere, making mistakes
- 26:46and documenting it all. And we're on Instagram.
- 26:49I'm always there too. Very active in the DM's and
- 26:53we're Black City Coffee Roasters.
- 26:54It's BLK City Roaster. As you can tell, it was a busy
- 27:10weekend. Some key takeaways.
- 27:12Coffee is an endless rabbit hole in which there are a multitude
- 27:16of meandering paths that lead in and out of the craft coffee
- 27:19community. I learned that people don't seem
- 27:22to mind talking to a stranger as long as he's holding a
- 27:25microphone. And if you're looking to be
- 27:27immersed in the world of coffee really quickly, an industry
- 27:31convention isn't a bad way to go.
- 27:34And if you can't make it to one, just go to roastwestcoast.com.
- 27:38It's like the internet's version of the convention.
- 27:40A special thank you to Golden Lantern Coffee Roasters Thoughts
- 27:44and Processed Coffee, Forged Coffee and Black City Coffee for
- 27:48providing some great coffee prizes for our guests, the Beans
- 27:51Coffee Contest at the Hosea Booth and to all the lovely
- 27:55people who spent a few minutes chatting with this bearded
- 27:57coffee podcaster, it was a pleasure.
- 28:01Finally, to Jared and Luke Hales, I just have to say you
- 28:05were excellent booth hosts and getting a chance to talk to so
- 28:09many of your clients to hear the stories of why they view you as
- 28:12a partner and how you've gone out of your way to guide when
- 28:15asked, made me proud that you've chosen this podcast to partner
- 28:18with. Also, thanks for the fine pint
- 28:21of beer that everywhere beer after the show that was
- 28:25definitely needed. If you're listening and thinking
- 28:28about getting into coffee roasting, or you already are a
- 28:30home roaster or commercial roaster, head to say,
- 28:34acoffee.com to learn more about the company and about the green
- 28:37coffee they offer. Along with the say a coffee, we
- 28:41have a ton of great coffee partners which include our
- 28:44coffee people presenting sponsor Roast, our coffee packaging, and
- 28:48Ignite Coffee Company Berea Coffee K Porn Coffee Importers
- 28:52Joe. It was great to see you at the
- 28:53show. Zumbar Coffee and Tea Ascent
- 28:56Coffee Roasters. Most are Coffee Company Steady
- 28:59State Coffee Roasting, San Franciscan roaster Company
- 29:02Crossings Coffee, Acento Coffee Roasters, Camp Coffee Company
- 29:07Civets, Roasting Machines, First Light Coffee Whiskey and Coffee
- 29:11Cycle Roasting. Chris O'Brien, the owner and
- 29:14head roaster of Coffee Cycle Roasting, is my collaborator and
- 29:18coffee expert on the Coffee Smarter Podcast if you're trying
- 29:22to brew a better cup of coffee at home.
- 29:24You should go listen to that show too.
- 29:26Find it on roastwestcoast.com or wherever you're listening to
- 29:31this show. Just search coffee smarter if
- 29:34you find yourself on our website, roastwestcoast.com I
- 29:38think that's the fifth time I've said it in this episode.
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- 29:47West Coast Coffee Network and this episode is what has been
- 29:52written, produced and recorded by me, Ryan Wu.
- 29:55Please always tip your baristas and be sure to drink good
- 29:59coffee.