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RHOP: 4 for 4 with Dr. Wendy Osefo · Reality with The King

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Speaker 1: You guys are seeing this person finally getting a taste
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Speaker 1: of independence and the taste of freedom.
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Speaker 2: Stay tuned.
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Speaker 3: We'll get into this conversation right after these quick ads.
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Speaker 2: Hey, rain drop.
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Speaker 3: Today's guests on Reality with the King is a Nigerian
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Speaker 3: queen Honey. She graps our TV screens on season five
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Speaker 3: of The Real Housewives Apotomac and has been serving African
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Speaker 3: royalty ever since. That's right, Doctor Wendy Osofo is here today.
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Speaker 3: We talk about her feeling out of law school while
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Speaker 3: she received so much criticism for changing careers and her
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Speaker 3: castmates don't, and we discussed why viewers think she comes
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Speaker 3: off as inauthentic. The answer might surprise you because it
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Speaker 3: surprised me.
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Speaker 2: Child.
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Speaker 3: So without further ado, let's get in to my conversation
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Speaker 3: with doctor Wendy.
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Speaker 2: Ohspo.
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Speaker 3: Doctor Wendy is in the building. As you all know,
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Speaker 3: The Real Apotomac is my number one favorite franchise right now.
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Speaker 3: I love the show, I love the cast, and I
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Speaker 3: also love me some doctor Wendy.
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Speaker 2: Hey, gorgeous, how are you? I'm good.
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Speaker 3: We finally get to talk to each other. We follow
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Speaker 3: each other on Instagram. You are such a sweetheart. You
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Speaker 3: sit me your candles, which, by the way, we're so good.
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Speaker 3: But now we get to talk. So I'm so happy
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Speaker 3: you're here, my love.
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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. This is long overdue. I'm glad that
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Speaker 1: our schedules finally fit this in.
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Speaker 4: Like this is this is it? Right now? This is it?
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Speaker 2: Oh? And yes it is, so let's just jump right
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Speaker 2: into it.
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Speaker 3: Doctor Wendy, you came on to this show and set
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Speaker 3: it off like Vibica fox Baby.
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Speaker 2: Talk to me how.
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Speaker 3: This educated, beautiful, family oriented, gorgeous Nigeria woman decided to
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Speaker 3: step away a little bit right from teaching, but to
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Speaker 3: really be a housewife on a reality show.
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Speaker 1: Because I'm crazy, no, no, But like honestly, I feel
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Speaker 1: like I was just at a point where I wanted
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Speaker 1: to do something for myself, right like you guys met me.
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Speaker 1: I had Cameron July twentieth. She was in the nicqu
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Speaker 1: so we didn't come home till like August, and then
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Speaker 1: the producers were knocking on my door like late August.
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Speaker 4: So basically I was just enthralled.
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Speaker 1: In like motherhood, and I was like, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: do something for myself. I've been teaching, I've been living
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Speaker 1: out my mom's dreams. I've been doing all that stuff,
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Speaker 1: getting all these degrees, and I'm just like, I want
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Speaker 1: to do something fun. And so when the opportunity presented itself,
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Speaker 1: I never thought in my Bengo Caller of Life that
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Speaker 1: would ever be a housewife.
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Speaker 4: But when it came, I was like, you know what,
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Speaker 4: why not?
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be ninety years old on my
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Speaker 1: rock and chair thinking what would have happened if you
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Speaker 1: took that opportunity.
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Speaker 4: So I yolo, and I took it.
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Speaker 3: Were you a fan of reality TV and or the
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Speaker 3: Housewives of Potomac before you decided to be on the show?
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Speaker 4: Part yes, partner.
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Speaker 1: So in full disclosure, I know this might sound crazy,
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Speaker 1: and I'm not even saying this to be cool because
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Speaker 1: it actually makes me look like I didn't do my research.
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Speaker 4: I did not watch Potomac before I joined.
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Speaker 1: I had every single like reason to watch it because
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Speaker 1: Eddie would tell me you're about to be on this show,
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Speaker 1: you need to watch it, and I said, okay, fine,
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Speaker 1: But I was so busy getting ready for the birth
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Speaker 1: of my daughter.
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Speaker 4: That was like getting the.
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Speaker 1: Nursery ready, doing this, doing that, and then she came early,
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Speaker 1: like more than a month early, so I didn't have
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Speaker 1: time to do what I wanted to do. But I
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Speaker 1: always watch reality TV, like I love Jersey, I absolutely
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Speaker 1: adored Atlanta and my new book I talk about how
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Speaker 1: I was watching love and Hip Hop when I actually
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Speaker 1: got the call that my stepfather passed away.
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Speaker 2: So I have.
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Speaker 1: Watched reality TV. I just did not watch Potomac.
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Speaker 2: Well, girl, I know.
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Speaker 1: So the reason I say that, I think that's so
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Speaker 1: important is that, like, if I would have known, it
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Speaker 1: would have been different. But then on the same hand,
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Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't watch it because what you guys
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Speaker 1: saw was how I felt like. I didn't know there
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Speaker 1: was politics. I didn't know who was loved, I didn't
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Speaker 1: know who was hated. I didn't know that. I had
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Speaker 1: no clue.
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Speaker 3: No and listen, And I'm glad you did not watch
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Speaker 3: it either, because your first season you were a breath
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Speaker 3: of fresh air. And one thing I always tell people,
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Speaker 3: there's two cities of the housewives who get the casting right,
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Speaker 3: and that's Potomac and Beverly Hills. So when you came
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Speaker 3: onto the scene, I was like, Bravo, punt intended like
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Speaker 3: doctor Wendy is it. I loved you from the daygo,
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Speaker 3: your finance, husband, your beautiful children, and you were just
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Speaker 3: so relatable. And obviously I know the producers who produced
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Speaker 3: Potomac from Eric to Kamar and Comar's one of my
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Speaker 3: really good friends, and I would text him like, I
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Speaker 3: love you some, doctor Wendy, and obviously you fit in
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Speaker 3: like a glove.
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Speaker 2: And even your four degrees, I was like.
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Speaker 3: Okay, that could be unnoying at times, but own it, bitch,
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Speaker 3: like you got four or five degrees.
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Speaker 4: I know that.
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Speaker 3: So let's talk about your first season to now. Do
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Speaker 3: you feel the difference in terms of who you were
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Speaker 3: your first season to who you are now with your
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Speaker 3: third season being on.
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Speaker 4: The show, Absolutely one hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: I think my first season, I came in and you
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Speaker 1: guys saw me in my raws. Form y'all saw me
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Speaker 1: with my wig tilted to the side. Child, y'all saw
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Speaker 1: me just raw. And why I say that is because
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Speaker 1: you guys really saw somebody who just had a baby,
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Speaker 1: right like I was not caring necessarily about my esthetic.
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Speaker 1: I didn't care about that because I literally was knee
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Speaker 1: deep in motherhood and not just typical motherhood. But now
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Speaker 1: you have three kids, so your hands are always full
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Speaker 1: and for me, what I realized and I didn't really
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Speaker 1: understand it, but I feel like I do a little
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Speaker 1: bit now. When I look at these shows, it sort
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Speaker 1: of reminds me of like a girl group, right, And
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Speaker 1: it's like everyone occupies a different space. And so when
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Speaker 1: I came in, what you guys saw was what I was.
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Speaker 1: I was occupying that space. But that my next season,
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Speaker 1: I was in a place where I was like, you
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Speaker 1: know what I want to do for me. I'm tired
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Speaker 1: of breastfeeding these kids. I'm tired of these kids on
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Speaker 1: my titty, Like I'm tired.
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Speaker 4: I want to get my body done.
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Speaker 1: I want to just be free, like I'm tired of
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Speaker 1: living for everybody else. And that's what you guys saw.
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Speaker 1: And so it's sort of like when you have a
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Speaker 1: girl group and then somebody in the girl group goes
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Speaker 1: solo and you're like, I didn't know she had all
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Speaker 1: that in her. I didn't know she was like that.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's what people saw. They're like, who
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Speaker 1: is this person? It's like, this is part of who
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Speaker 1: I am. You guys just didn't see that, because that's
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Speaker 1: not where my mindset was the first season I came
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Speaker 1: on I was breast pumping.
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Speaker 3: I thought you were also, say, honey, I was breastfeeding
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Speaker 3: the girls like I was breastfeeding the housewives too, child
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Speaker 3: because they needed a little support in order for them
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Speaker 3: to be great, because you gave them some nutrition. So
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Speaker 3: but that makes sense to me because, like I said,
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Speaker 3: I adore you. I love you off camera on camera,
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Speaker 3: and even your second season, I too, as listen the
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Speaker 3: king of reality TV, somebody who produced reality television. I
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Speaker 3: was like, Okay, doctor Wendy is going through her second
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Speaker 3: season blow up, which.
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Speaker 2: Every reality star does.
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Speaker 3: And I felt like, okay, but wait a second, are
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Speaker 3: we are we losing the quality of who she was
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Speaker 3: her first season where I love the fact that you
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Speaker 3: were like, I am this smart black woman and I'm
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Speaker 3: going to make it happen. And then your second season
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Speaker 3: with the candles, and I'm gonna be honest with you,
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Speaker 3: there's one scene you had with Karen that pissed me off,
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Speaker 3: Doctor Wendy. Okay, it's when you had a meeting with
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Speaker 3: Karen about candles and yes, and I felt like you
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Speaker 3: were dumbing yourself down. And I was like, the doctor Wendy,
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Speaker 3: I fucking know, is smarter than every girl on this
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Speaker 3: cast combine, and I was like, I don't want doctor
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Speaker 3: Wendy to feel like she has to dumb herself down
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Speaker 3: to be, you know, like she doesn't know business.
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Speaker 2: I was mad.
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Speaker 3: I was mad doing that thing. I was like, that's
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Speaker 3: not that doctor Wendy I fell in love with. Do
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Speaker 3: you understand when I'm saying when I say that, and
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Speaker 3: do you agree?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely?
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Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying one thousand percent and I
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Speaker 1: agree as well, because it's not necessarily I didn't walk
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Speaker 1: into a saying I'm dumbing myself down. But I also
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Speaker 1: didn't feel like I had anything to prove right, and
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Speaker 1: I felt like I don't know business, Like that's the
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Speaker 1: truth of the matter. Granted people could say, oh, you
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Speaker 1: can google a business thing and all that stuff. Yes
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Speaker 1: you can, But I don't know business. That's just not
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Speaker 1: my strong suit. That's Eddie. Eddie has an NBA if
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Speaker 1: he knows the ins and outs of business. The conversation
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Speaker 1: I was having with Karen, I also think it was
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Speaker 1: more so.
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Speaker 4: You see this, this is interesting. Let me tell you
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Speaker 4: all this.
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Speaker 1: When you're around Karen and you have a conversation, whether
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Speaker 1: you like it or not, Karen has this mother hand
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Speaker 1: type of persona, and it made me feel like I
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Speaker 1: was talking to like now, I don't want to say
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Speaker 1: my mom.
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Speaker 4: I don't want to say that, but do you get
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Speaker 4: what I'm doing saying and so and so?
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Speaker 1: That's the energy I saw of met her with, Like
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Speaker 1: when I talk to my mom, I'm unsure of myself,
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Speaker 1: even forget the degrees, I'm unsure of myself. I questioned myself,
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Speaker 1: Am I doing the right thing? Does this make sense
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Speaker 1: to you? And I sort of feel like that's what
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Speaker 1: came across. But I never deliberately went and said I'm
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Speaker 1: going to dumb myself down. No, I didn't say that,
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Speaker 1: but I do understand the perception of that, because when
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Speaker 1: you are a bad bitch in every facet of your
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Speaker 1: life and then you come to somebody like I need
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Speaker 1: wisdom from you, I need to understand.
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Speaker 4: I understand how you can.
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Speaker 1: See it like that A thousand percent, yes, a thousand OK.
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Speaker 1: Even my mom called me about that scene.
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Speaker 4: Am I sist?
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Speaker 2: What did she say?
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Speaker 4: My mom was like, not you talking to Karen? Not
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Speaker 4: what the hell you need Karen's advice for? She said, more?
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Speaker 4: But you know I ain't gonna say a child you
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Speaker 4: know my mama. She on't hold her tongue about nothing
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Speaker 4: or no one.
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Speaker 3: And I'm so glad you were honest about that too,
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Speaker 3: because you know, the purpose of this podcast is to
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Speaker 3: get to know people on a deeper level. And like
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Speaker 3: I said, I love you from jump and I have
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Speaker 3: discernment and I just felt like, what's happening here? Do
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Speaker 3: you feel like that's part of the reason why there's
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Speaker 3: some people who feel like, who is doctor Wendy. She's
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Speaker 3: coming across and authentic. She's not likable like she was
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Speaker 3: her first season. How does it feel to know there's
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Speaker 3: people out there, Doctor Wendy who feel that way about
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Speaker 3: you going into this third season.
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Speaker 4: I don't give her damn.
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Speaker 5: No no, But for real, I think that in all honesty,
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Speaker 5: I in my real life, I'm a complicated character.
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Speaker 4: I really am.
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Speaker 1: Like one day and Eddie will tell you one day,
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Speaker 1: I'm like I got this this f them da da
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Speaker 1: da da. Next day I'm crying like I don't know,
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Speaker 1: Like that's just who I am. That's really my personality.
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Speaker 1: So I think what's interesting about people saying that is
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Speaker 1: I'm finding myself as well, and I want people to
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Speaker 1: member that. Also being the child of immigrants. You really
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Speaker 1: have lived the majority of your life not knowing who
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Speaker 1: you really are because you're living someone else's dream. And
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Speaker 1: so I'm continuing on that journey of just finding what
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Speaker 1: I love, what don't I love?
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Speaker 4: Do I like this? Do not like this?
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Speaker 1: Do I want to sell candles? Do I want to
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Speaker 1: open up a lounge? Because I've done everything in my
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Speaker 1: life and my past for other people, Like literally since
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Speaker 1: from the moment y'all met me, that was my first
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Speaker 1: decision in my life outside of Mary and Eddie of course,
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Speaker 1: that I made for myself.
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Speaker 4: And that might sound crazy, but I'm thirty seven years old.
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Speaker 4: That was literally like.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to do housewives, Like that's what I'm doing.
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Speaker 1: Everything else I have done in my life has been
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Speaker 1: a joint thought effort, Like it's like my mom, my, sister,
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Speaker 1: everyone comes together to make decisions for me and then myself.
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Speaker 4: Weird, but that's it. Like I even talk about that
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Speaker 4: in my book, like they.
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Speaker 1: Really have been overseers of what I've done. And in
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Speaker 1: my book, I talk about how I failed out of
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Speaker 1: law school. Right, long story show, y'all may not have
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Speaker 1: known that I failed out of law school.
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Speaker 4: Yeah I did, and they all came together.
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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, so next you're going to be
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Speaker 1: a doctor, so we have to find out how you're
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Speaker 1: going to be a doctor.
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Speaker 4: So maybe you just go and get your PhD.
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Speaker 1: So I didn't even get a chance once I made
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Speaker 1: that failure to then say what, maybe I don't want
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Speaker 1: to go to school, maybe I'm gonna do something else.
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Speaker 1: It was like, no, you have to be a doctor
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Speaker 1: and we're going to figure out how to get there.
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Speaker 4: Since the law school route didn't work.
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Speaker 1: So when you are a complicated individual like that, then yes,
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Speaker 1: you guys are seeing me like trying to find my
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Speaker 1: own way because I haven't had the opportunity to do that.
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Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? Now? It is not crazy. No, listen
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Speaker 2: all jumps aside. It is not crazy.
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Speaker 3: And this is why I'm so happy that we're talking
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Speaker 3: because for someone like me to be in the business
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Speaker 3: who also always tell people I'm always going to be
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Speaker 3: a viewer. So I look at shows that I watched
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Speaker 3: Doctor Wendy as a viewer, and then the producer had
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Speaker 3: comes in. Secondly, this makes so much sense to me
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Speaker 3: because to me, I was even hard on you the
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Speaker 3: premiere episode because I was like, okay, doctor Wendy, we
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Speaker 3: got four degrees. They were making candles and now we're
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Speaker 3: doing a fucking restaurant. And I was like, doctor Wendy,
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Speaker 3: is this for a storyline? And now that we're talking,
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Speaker 3: this is so interesting because and I'm getting chills talking
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Speaker 3: to you right now. You are like most career women
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Speaker 3: who are also mothers, and like you said, child of immigrants,
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Speaker 3: you are, for the first time in your adult life
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Speaker 3: living for you. So when we see you go through
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Speaker 3: these motions of you know, the breast and the booty
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Speaker 3: and candles and maybe I want to open up a restaurant,
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Speaker 3: we are watching you in real time figure life out.
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Speaker 2: And the issue is.
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Speaker 3: Doctor Wendy, we're not being told that's what you're doing.
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Speaker 3: We look at this now, doctor Wendys, and I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: be very rial with you. Child, she knew a storyline.
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Speaker 3: She's coming to set not knowing who she is. She
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Speaker 3: don't know she loved Gazilla. I hate the bitch like
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Speaker 3: but I now am getting the glimpse of all your life.
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Speaker 3: And I know this by especially Nigerian children. I know
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Speaker 3: that your parents feel like you have two choices, a
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Speaker 3: doctor a lawyer, Evon Orgy from Insecure. The actress said
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Speaker 3: that said that the same thing that you guys are
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Speaker 3: raised to be doctor, lawyer, engineer. Yes, and you and
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Speaker 3: stop me when I'm wrong. I feel like you lived
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Speaker 3: your life for your mom. Yes, and right now you're
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Speaker 3: living your life for Wendy.
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly what it is. You got it like,
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Speaker 1: that's that's what it is. And I wish that I
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Speaker 1: understand it's an asyle vocast and we can't tease out stories,
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Speaker 1: but that's what it is I am doing. I'm almost
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Speaker 1: like a child rebelling. You guys are watching a child rebelling.
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Speaker 1: So you're seeing me like, Yeah, I got the four degrees. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I work at this amazing university. Yeah I'm a commentary.
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Speaker 1: Yeah I got the husband because in my culture you
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Speaker 1: have to be married. Yeah I got the kids. Not
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Speaker 1: just the kids, but my culture're supposed to have a
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Speaker 1: boy and a girl. So I finally did it, right,
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Speaker 1: I had two boys and a girl.
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Speaker 4: I did it.
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Speaker 1: I accomplished everything. Guess what I'm gonna live for me?
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Speaker 1: So I want the boobs. I want I want to
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Speaker 1: get my body done. I want it. Why not if
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Speaker 1: I do candles I can't do candles if I feel
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Speaker 1: like it. Guess what don't matter. I'm still a doctor. Boom,
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Speaker 1: all right, let me do a restaurant. Why not do
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Speaker 1: a restaurant because I want to. I think it's a
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Speaker 1: good idea. I also, you know what, not just a restaurant,
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Speaker 1: I want to put a library in the restaurant because
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Speaker 1: that would be awesome.
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Speaker 4: Right, you guys are.
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Speaker 1: Seeing the person finally getting a taste of independence and
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Speaker 1: the taste of freedom.
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Speaker 4: And that's what you guys are watching in real.
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Speaker 2: Time, so not that. Thank you for saying that.
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Speaker 3: And this is going to help you a lot, doctor Wendy,
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Speaker 3: because I know, I feel like people are able to
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Speaker 3: really understand because I am getting chills understanding it now
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Speaker 3: as well.
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Speaker 2: With that being said, hindsight is twenty twenty.
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Speaker 3: Do you now understand maybe why last season Robin, for example,
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Speaker 3: was really confused with who you were at that time?
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Speaker 4: No because.
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Speaker 2: Rob tried no no, no, no no.
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Speaker 1: Because I felt like out of because well, first of all,
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Speaker 1: I didn't feel that way because we were really close, like.
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Speaker 4: We actually talked.
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Speaker 1: Like when cameras are down and you know, as Carlos,
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Speaker 1: there are people who just film we show up to set.
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Speaker 1: Then there's people who actually talk. No, we talked, we
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Speaker 1: texted like we we talk.
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Speaker 2: Like, hey girl, wait not to cut you off, cot
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Speaker 2: people off.
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Speaker 3: This is this is shocking you and Robin Dixon had
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Speaker 3: a friendship off camera.
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Speaker 4: Yes, we talked like we would. I would send her
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Speaker 4: an article, She'll send.
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Speaker 2: Me our a girl.
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Speaker 4: What these people talking about?
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Speaker 2: What these people talk?
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: When we were on lockdown, how are you doing? How
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Speaker 1: the boys doing? Are you cooking? Well, I'm tired of cooking.
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Speaker 1: We tired the cooking.
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Speaker 4: I'm tired.
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Speaker 1: We will have those conversations or her just calling me
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Speaker 1: checking in, Hey, how's everything going? Da da da da,
18:40
Speaker 1: like we would talk. So that's why I'm like no.
18:46
Speaker 1: And then two we saw Robin go from selling and
18:49
Speaker 1: flipping houses to selling beauty supply store hats.
18:55
Speaker 4: To doing whatever she's doing. And it's okay. So let
18:59
Speaker 4: me understand.
19:00
Speaker 1: It's okay for her to change her career path and
19:04
Speaker 1: explore different things.
19:07
Speaker 4: But I can't. That's why I don't get that. I
19:10
Speaker 4: would understand, and Robin.
19:12
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
19:13
Speaker 4: I just don't get it.
19:14
Speaker 1: Like we saw you change different paths yourself and It
19:18
Speaker 1: wasn't a what's wrong, what's different?
19:21
Speaker 2: Girl?
19:21
Speaker 4: You were just flipping the house in downtown Baltimore.
19:24
Speaker 1: Now I know you got me on somebody's screen modeling
19:28
Speaker 1: hats for you.
19:29
Speaker 4: Okay, you my girl, I'm a model, but hat I'm
19:31
Speaker 4: gonna give you an angle? So why can you do
19:34
Speaker 4: it and I can't?
19:35
Speaker 3: So do you think in another hindsight twenty twenty that
19:39
Speaker 3: Robin was doing that to create a storyline?
19:41
Speaker 4: Yes, oh, I think so.
19:45
Speaker 1: I personally think she was doing that because because we
19:52
Speaker 1: were friends. She never even asked me that off camera.
19:57
Speaker 1: She was never like, girls, everything, okay, you are right,
20:00
Speaker 1: like you're going from.
20:01
Speaker 4: This to that?
20:02
Speaker 1: Like it was never that. It was me watching the
20:06
Speaker 1: episodes with you guys, And I'm like, wait, that's how
20:09
Speaker 1: you feel.
20:10
Speaker 4: You never said that. You never communicate this with me.
20:13
Speaker 4: You never talked to me, You never you know.
20:16
Speaker 2: So yeah, wow, this is deep and what.
20:21
Speaker 4: I think too.
20:23
Speaker 1: Not to get too much into the weeds of last season,
20:27
Speaker 1: but it was what I'm realizing now that I'm stepping
20:31
Speaker 1: back and just watching even this season. The name of
20:34
Speaker 1: the game is connecting the dots, right, It's a connect
20:37
Speaker 1: the dot game.
20:39
Speaker 2: And.
20:41
Speaker 1: That was part of her laying the foundation to connect
20:44
Speaker 1: the dots for my plastic surgery, then to connect the
20:48
Speaker 1: dots for I got plastic surgery because of the false
20:51
Speaker 1: rumor for Eddie. It was all laying the groundwork. It
20:54
Speaker 1: was a connecting the dots, you know. That's what that's
20:58
Speaker 1: that's that's why I'm realized. I didn't know it, and
21:00
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, what's the big deal if I
21:01
Speaker 1: changed careers. No, it's because you're changing careers because you're
21:05
Speaker 1: acting different, and you're acting different, and then you got
21:07
Speaker 1: your body done and all of this is because of
21:10
Speaker 1: this m baby.
21:12
Speaker 3: Those four degrees came in handy for the dissection of
21:16
Speaker 3: it all.
21:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell you stop, baby.
21:20
Speaker 3: So this past episode, we saw that which Robin. I
21:26
Speaker 3: love Robin, I love the entire cats, but I called
21:28
Speaker 3: a spadus Bailey, right. We saw that Robin did not
21:33
Speaker 3: invite you to her event that was for the kids.
21:37
Speaker 3: She told Candace to call you a not just a mama,
21:45
Speaker 3: a black mama.
21:47
Speaker 2: Okay.
21:48
Speaker 3: She had kndas call a black mama and said, can
21:51
Speaker 3: I take your kids out of your house?
21:55
Speaker 2: It might be here called drive down I eighty five.
21:59
Speaker 2: So getting off.
22:00
Speaker 3: Exit exit twelve, turning up in the parking lot child
22:04
Speaker 3: and have a playdate with another woman and her kids
22:10
Speaker 3: and you said no, which, as a black man raised
22:15
Speaker 3: by black mama, I understood that one hundred and fifty percent.
22:22
Speaker 2: Where I was, I was, so, this is no shade, I.
22:27
Speaker 3: Said, bitch, am I watching the Old Sea Housewives because
22:30
Speaker 3: black folks know this ain't. This ain't how we get
22:32
Speaker 3: down in the audacity of that. What was Robin thinking,
22:37
Speaker 3: was this another situation where she was creating a storyline?
22:41
Speaker 3: You think so?
22:43
Speaker 2: Or does she hate you that much?
22:44
Speaker 4: Pretty? You know? Well, it's twofolds, right. I think first
22:49
Speaker 4: of all.
22:51
Speaker 1: If you don't want the mama, then you don't want
22:55
Speaker 1: the kids, right, My kids are not going anywhere that
22:59
Speaker 1: they're mom isn't wanted. That's very simple to me. It doesn't,
23:04
Speaker 1: It doesn't. It doesn't take a lot to go through that.
23:09
Speaker 1: And if I could actually keep.
23:12
Speaker 4: It very real.
23:14
Speaker 1: There was a moment, a hot mic moment, and in
23:17
Speaker 1: my hot mic moment, you guys hear me say, oh wait,
23:19
Speaker 1: I'm still miked or something like that. That comment wasn't
23:24
Speaker 1: too my comment earlier about Mia. That comment was because
23:31
Speaker 1: I called Eric Eric. Eric was working overtime that episode.
23:35
Speaker 4: You know, Eric, I.
23:37
Speaker 2: Called Carlos king tell me is what I called my
23:42
Speaker 2: mente Yes ep Eric.
23:44
Speaker 1: Oh, I love Eric because after she did that whole
23:47
Speaker 1: song and dance where she went around the room and
23:51
Speaker 1: asked about everyone's kids, it was definitely about the kids
23:55
Speaker 1: because she didn't ask the women in the circle.
23:58
Speaker 4: Hey, as where you're available, Teresa, you're available. She acts
24:02
Speaker 4: specifically if our kids were available, and based on whether
24:07
Speaker 4: the kids were available, was her or not inviting me?
24:11
Speaker 4: Does that make sense? It wasn't like she was inviting
24:13
Speaker 4: the moms right, It was the children she was inviting.
24:18
Speaker 1: So I said to Eric when I had my moment
24:22
Speaker 1: with him, I set him in the car and I
24:24
Speaker 1: was crying, crying. I said, y'all can come for me
24:29
Speaker 1: all you want to. I signed up for this, Come
24:32
Speaker 1: for me. She can come for me however she wants to.
24:36
Speaker 1: But to do this to a two, six and eight
24:40
Speaker 1: year old, that's not what I signed up for, nor
24:44
Speaker 1: did my kids sign up for that. And Eric will
24:47
Speaker 1: tell you I set him in the car. He was
24:49
Speaker 1: right in my front seat crying. I was crying because
24:53
Speaker 1: I can take a lot, but as a mom, don't do.
24:57
Speaker 4: That to my kids.
24:58
Speaker 1: And my kids are of the age where you know,
25:00
Speaker 1: for me, they don't necessarily watch the show, but they
25:03
Speaker 1: have friends, especially my two oldest ones, who their friends
25:07
Speaker 1: watch the show with their mom. Like the show comes
25:08
Speaker 1: on at eight o'clock, you know, they're still awake and
25:10
Speaker 1: they'll say.
25:11
Speaker 4: Oh, CARTHURR.
25:12
Speaker 1: Cruz, I saw you on TV. So the conversation can
25:16
Speaker 1: never be while your kids won't know, yes, they don't know.
25:19
Speaker 1: They found out the same time y'all found out. They
25:22
Speaker 1: have friends who watched the show, so they know that
25:25
Speaker 1: they weren't invited. And as long as Robin has been
25:27
Speaker 1: on this show, my kids are the only kids she's
25:31
Speaker 1: ever had a playdate with. Our boys are the only
25:35
Speaker 1: boys that had a football play date. So for her
25:39
Speaker 1: to do that, I just felt like, wow, you know,
25:43
Speaker 1: that's really really wrong. And then to answer your second
25:48
Speaker 1: question about was this first story in life, I don't
25:50
Speaker 1: know what it was for, but I know everyone, including
25:54
Speaker 1: and I'll give it to some people who I don't
25:56
Speaker 1: even you know, have the best relationship with, told her
25:59
Speaker 1: that's wrong.
26:00
Speaker 4: Don't do that. That's wrong.
26:02
Speaker 1: People, they said, that's wrong, do not do that. And
26:08
Speaker 1: she did not budge. She was like, I don't care.
26:11
Speaker 1: I don't care about those kids. I don't care.
26:14
Speaker 2: Oh oh my, okay, I'm sorry.
26:16
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get emotional because I am such an
26:18
Speaker 3: advocate for children. You know, even on my show Love
26:21
Speaker 3: and Marriage Huntsville. You know, I tell the casts all
26:24
Speaker 3: the time, kids are off limits. We're not gonna play
26:26
Speaker 3: around with the kids. And no matter what they go
26:28
Speaker 3: through as a cast, those kids are friends with each other.
26:32
Speaker 3: And I always appreciated the fact that when there was
26:35
Speaker 3: ever an event for the kids, that the kids would
26:38
Speaker 3: definitely be there, even if the parents are gonna long
26:40
Speaker 3: And I'm so sorry you have to go through that. Listen,
26:43
Speaker 3: Robin isn't here to defend herself, so I'll give her
26:46
Speaker 3: that as well, but that this is truly breaking my.
26:49
Speaker 2: Heart, and I don't want people to hear me cry.
26:54
Speaker 3: I don't stop good crying. I'm gonna change the subject
26:57
Speaker 3: because I don't play that shit when it comes to kids.
27:00
Speaker 1: You know what I feels, and it's a family funday, Like,
27:05
Speaker 1: how are you gonna set you so? You want my
27:07
Speaker 1: kids to come with candas to a family funday when
27:11
Speaker 1: none of their family's there, and every other kid has
27:13
Speaker 1: their family, Like, this is not making any sense to me.
27:17
Speaker 1: I don't play with my kids. Why would I put
27:19
Speaker 1: them in a position or an environment where the host
27:22
Speaker 1: of the event doesn't even like their mom. You don't
27:25
Speaker 1: have to invite me. You don't have to invite me.
27:27
Speaker 1: That's fine, But then don't now try to backtrack and
27:31
Speaker 1: try to come up with some convoluted, you know, way
27:35
Speaker 1: to get my kids there. It would have made more
27:37
Speaker 1: sense for her to say, hey, wan, call Eddie. Tell
27:41
Speaker 1: Eddie to bring the kids. That would have made sense
27:44
Speaker 1: them let them, let their dad bring them. That would
27:47
Speaker 1: have made sense, right, Like, hey, no, when Doy you
27:50
Speaker 1: have an issue that you have a problem with you
27:51
Speaker 1: absolutely you're right. But you know what, tell Eddie to
27:54
Speaker 1: bring the kids there? Thousand percent? That makes sense.
28:00
Speaker 2: I hate you interrupt, but stay tuned for more.
28:03
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after these quick ads. This is
28:14
Speaker 3: reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get
28:17
Speaker 3: back into the show. So, like I said, I love Robin,
28:23
Speaker 3: I love the girls. I was in Miami a few
28:25
Speaker 3: months ago when y'all were filming, and I wanted to
28:30
Speaker 3: surprise y'all because I am obsessed with this show, and
28:34
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna give much away. So I was able
28:37
Speaker 3: to meet Giselle, Robin Cheries, and Ashley and they were
28:43
Speaker 3: all lovely. We had a good ol' key key boom boom,
28:47
Speaker 3: and I said, where are my other girls because I'm obsessed,
28:52
Speaker 3: as you know, with you and Candace Kansas was shooting
28:55
Speaker 3: something else. But again I'm not gonna give much away.
28:58
Speaker 3: But Doctor Wendy wasn't there. This was the day after
29:02
Speaker 3: this altercation happened at Peters Bar one restaurant in Miami.
29:09
Speaker 3: Now that we've seen the trailer, we saw that Mia
29:12
Speaker 3: through a drink at you. Now, I know you said earlier, girl,
29:15
Speaker 3: you was watching Love and Hip Hop child, But what
29:18
Speaker 3: the fuck happened to where your experience was like a
29:22
Speaker 3: scene out of Love and Hip Hop Doctor Wendy.
29:25
Speaker 1: Honestly, that whole that was wild. I would say it's
29:31
Speaker 1: it was wild. And I always say, if you watch
29:35
Speaker 1: that trailer again, pay attention to Karen's face.
29:39
Speaker 2: She did.
29:39
Speaker 1: We were not even there, like it wasn't It didn't
29:43
Speaker 1: warrant that no one was expecting that. It completely came
29:47
Speaker 1: out of the left field, and I would just tell
29:49
Speaker 1: you guys to pay very close attention, you know, pay
29:53
Speaker 1: very close attention to what was being discussed and whether
30:00
Speaker 1: or not that it even elevated to that level.
30:04
Speaker 3: Because you are a doctor, and you are a woman
30:08
Speaker 3: who's been surrounded by educators and you're still you know,
30:11
Speaker 3: you do a lot of work on different news channels.
30:14
Speaker 3: In that moment or even afterwards, did you feel like
30:19
Speaker 3: I have such a great career? Is this what I
30:24
Speaker 3: signed up for? Like, did you think your credibility as
30:27
Speaker 3: an educator was going to be diminished by your peers
30:31
Speaker 3: because of that moment?
30:32
Speaker 2: Yes?
30:33
Speaker 4: And no.
30:34
Speaker 1: In that moment when it happened, I thought of everything
30:40
Speaker 1: I had accomplished and whether or not me retaliating was
30:46
Speaker 1: worth losing all of those things. It was a split
30:51
Speaker 1: second decision because you have natural reflexes.
30:56
Speaker 4: Someone throws a drink at you, it's like.
30:57
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, you know what I mean, Like,
31:00
Speaker 1: which is natural, right, but like you guys, see, in
31:03
Speaker 1: that moment when it happens, I and then I just
31:07
Speaker 1: think of my daughter, I think of my children.
31:11
Speaker 4: I'm like, I've worked so damn hard, like Carlos, you know,
31:16
Speaker 4: and we can vibe on this.
31:18
Speaker 1: In the industry that is dominated by people who don't
31:23
Speaker 1: look like you for you to achieve the level of
31:26
Speaker 1: success you have, you know how hard you have worked
31:30
Speaker 1: for me to achieve the level of.
31:32
Speaker 4: Success I have.
31:33
Speaker 1: Where I can choose what network I go on, where
31:36
Speaker 1: I can do these things, where I'm at a top university,
31:40
Speaker 1: is what I'm about to do worth risking all of that.
31:46
Speaker 1: And in that moment, I had to say, you know what,
31:50
Speaker 1: We're not going to do that because y'all can say
31:53
Speaker 1: whatever you want about me, but baby, this career I
31:57
Speaker 1: work damn hard for it, and I've earned earned everything
32:01
Speaker 1: I have. Nothing was given to me, blood, sweat and tears.
32:04
Speaker 1: I earned it all and I'm not going to let
32:07
Speaker 1: the misactions of one person caused me to now and
32:12
Speaker 1: throw all of that down the drain.
32:14
Speaker 3: And without giving too much away, then we'll move on.
32:18
Speaker 3: We saw that season five, there was a very healthy
32:24
Speaker 3: conversation with the housewives after Monique and Cannas got into
32:29
Speaker 3: their altercation. There was a sit down conversation that all
32:32
Speaker 3: of you ladies were part of. May I ask you,
32:37
Speaker 3: what's that same grace given to you?
32:39
Speaker 1: After that moment, y'all are gonna see a lot of
32:46
Speaker 1: people eat their words y'all remember everybody's position. How you
32:52
Speaker 1: know this is not what we do with better than this?
32:58
Speaker 1: Watch close attention. This season is about paying close attention
33:04
Speaker 1: and paying attention to the ways that the goalpost is
33:11
Speaker 1: continuously moved depending on who is on the receiving end.
33:16
Speaker 1: That's what the season is about. To tie that to
33:19
Speaker 1: your earlier question when you were talking about Robin, what
33:24
Speaker 1: you guys will also see outside of the family Funday
33:29
Speaker 1: is people doing everything in their power to ice me out.
33:36
Speaker 1: And you will, guys, will see it throughout the season.
33:39
Speaker 1: You will see it throughout this This is not the
33:42
Speaker 1: first time that family Funday. Oh that's child's play. That
33:46
Speaker 1: is child's play. Stay locked in what you guys will
33:50
Speaker 1: see throughout the season.
33:51
Speaker 4: You guys will be like, what is it that serious?
33:56
Speaker 4: This doesn't make any sense.
33:58
Speaker 2: Well, doctor Wendy, I will say that.
34:00
Speaker 3: And I said this to all the girls that I
34:03
Speaker 3: know personally and spoken to this podcast.
34:06
Speaker 2: You are needed for the show. Listen.
34:08
Speaker 3: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The Real Housewives
34:11
Speaker 3: of Potomac is a stellar cast of women.
34:14
Speaker 2: All of you play your role.
34:16
Speaker 3: I am walking away from this interview fully understanding the
34:21
Speaker 3: woman that you are, and I know that, like you
34:24
Speaker 3: said earlier, you're not obviously able to control your story
34:28
Speaker 3: in terms of the bigger picture. But I really hope
34:31
Speaker 3: a lot of people listen to this interview because I
34:34
Speaker 3: now understand that you are a woman, Like a lot
34:39
Speaker 3: of women, especially mothers, You're just figuring life out and
34:44
Speaker 3: you're doing it day by day. And the only difference
34:47
Speaker 3: between you and Sally Ann and Iowa is you have
34:51
Speaker 3: a camera coop following your journey. And although it may
34:55
Speaker 3: not make sense to the audience, even me, I now understand,
35:00
Speaker 3: and I want to say to you, I appreciate you
35:05
Speaker 3: saying that because I now have a full understanding of
35:07
Speaker 3: you as a as a full human, a full mother,
35:12
Speaker 3: and a full wife, and a full entrepreneur and a
35:16
Speaker 3: full time cast member. And you ain't going nowhere. So
35:19
Speaker 3: thank you, doctor, Wendy girl.
35:21
Speaker 4: Oh thank you so much.
35:24
Speaker 2: Yes, so, my beautiful love. Where can people find you?
35:28
Speaker 2: Follow you? The book? Where can they buy it? All
35:31
Speaker 2: those things?
35:31
Speaker 4: Yeah?
35:32
Speaker 1: So you can follow me on all social media platforms
35:35
Speaker 1: at WENDYOSEPHO. And the book Tears of My Mother The
35:39
Speaker 1: Legacy of my nine year Upbringing is available wherever books
35:42
Speaker 1: are sold, so go get a copy.
35:43
Speaker 4: It's amazing.
35:44
Speaker 3: Yes, but thank you Doctor Wendy and The Real House
35:47
Speaker 3: Live atomac Airs every Sunday, eight o'clock, seven Central on
35:52
Speaker 3: Bravo rain Drop. I really really enjoyed that conversation. I
36:01
Speaker 3: love Doctor Wendy Osopo because at the end of the day,
36:05
Speaker 3: y'all know was hard on her too about changing careers,
36:08
Speaker 3: but after having a grand understanding of a woman who
36:12
Speaker 3: was raised by Nigerian mother who didn't have many options
36:16
Speaker 3: to choose.
36:16
Speaker 2: From y'all, she's living her best life.
36:19
Speaker 3: So if she wants to be a candle maker, a
36:22
Speaker 3: restaurant owner, drop some beats.
36:27
Speaker 2: Let doctor Wendy live. Y'all leave her alone.
36:30
Speaker 3: And Doctor Wendy, if you're listening, make sure you call me,
36:34
Speaker 3: honey when you're ready to start a production company.
36:36
Speaker 2: I'm your boy.
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