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- 0:26Speaker 1: Good evening, everybody, and welcome to another edition of the
- 0:29Speaker 1: Sports Exchange. We have a big show lined up. Rob
- 0:34Speaker 1: Moroska joined us in the second hour to go along
- 0:37Speaker 1: with this incredible five alongside of me. We're bringing the
- 0:40Speaker 1: man who has a hospital named after him, John Hopkins.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Did you get any receipts from any of that business
- 0:48Speaker 1: over there, brother?
- 0:50Speaker 2: Well, I have an old rugby teammate from San Diego
- 0:52Speaker 2: State that tells me that I don't pay him enough.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Oh, okay. I figured that. Great stuff. Glad to have
- 0:58Speaker 1: you back. We have Jason Prock. Glad to have you back, Jason.
- 1:02Speaker 3: Yes, sir. Glad to be back, Scott.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Great head. Second round of our doubleheader. The guy's a
- 1:08Speaker 1: steady Eddie. I can expect out of this guy. He's great.
- 1:14Speaker 1: And Cliff, let's get ready to rumble.
- 1:18Speaker 4: Bring it on, Scott. Bring it on.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Bring it on.
- 1:21Speaker 4: I'm ready for it. I saw that rundown for tonight. Oh,
- 1:24Speaker 4: my gosh.
- 1:25Speaker 1: See, when Ed was asked to come on the show,
- 1:27Speaker 1: he said, oh, I get to see you and Cliff
- 1:29Speaker 1: go at it, right?
- 1:30Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:32Speaker 6: That's what I said. I get to see Cliff again.
- 1:35Speaker 4: It's always fun.
- 1:37Speaker 1: And we have the candy woman.
- 1:39Speaker 7: I always love a front row seat for this rumble tonight.
- 1:45Speaker 1: I'm not a really good singer, but I wouldn't have
- 1:49Speaker 1: missed it for the world. Don't expect me on American
- 1:53Speaker 1: Idol to try it out. All right, let's get it rolling.
- 1:57Speaker 1: All right, well, let's talk about ESPN first. They obviously
- 2:01Speaker 1: shut down on December 1st, 2025. But here's my question
- 2:05Speaker 1: to everybody out there. ESPN is a major media entity.
- 2:09Speaker 1: media outlet. Do you think they should have been involved
- 2:13Speaker 1: in the gambling industry? I don't know about you, John.
- 2:17Speaker 1: I see a conflict of interest there between being in
- 2:20Speaker 1: journalism and also in gambling.
- 2:26Speaker 2: You don't want to get me started on the gambling
- 2:28Speaker 2: aspect because I understand that there's money to be made,
- 2:35Speaker 2: but you know, you wonder, you know, it's blood money.
- 2:40Speaker 2: It's money that, uh, you know, I, I have, uh,
- 2:45Speaker 2: seen how gambling can destroy people. You know, look what
- 2:48Speaker 2: it did to Pete Rose's career. You know, he's, you know,
- 2:55Speaker 2: not in the hall of fame, even though he's got
- 2:57Speaker 2: more hits than anybody. Uh, you see all these players
- 3:00Speaker 2: that get suspended, they get caught. Uh, you know, it
- 3:04Speaker 2: can be players. It can be referees. Um, I went
- 3:09Speaker 2: into Capital One last year playing hockey, but you've got
- 3:15Speaker 2: a sports book in there. That strikes me as fundamentally wrong.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Then you wonder why you have players and you have
- 3:25Speaker 2: executives getting in trouble for having betting apps on their
- 3:29Speaker 2: phones that they go into practice with. It's making a
- 3:34Speaker 2: deal with the devil, and it's going to cause people
- 3:36Speaker 2: to lose confidence in and the game, whatever game that's
- 3:40Speaker 2: going to be played.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Yeah, see, a little sidebar to that whole thing is
- 3:46Speaker 1: ESPN and Penn Entertainment agreed to mutually terminate their $ 2
- 3:50Speaker 1: billion exclusive U.S. online sports. Those are little things I
- 3:55Speaker 1: just want to entertain you. You're right, gambling is bad news.
- 3:58Speaker 1: It really, really is. I guess for me, being a journalist,
- 4:01Speaker 1: and probably Cliff could probably relate to this too, is
- 4:04Speaker 1: that there's a conflict of interest. I don't care how
- 4:06Speaker 1: you slice it. ESPN, announcers promoting it, and they're reading
- 4:10Speaker 1: the news and the features, and then we're talking gambling.
- 4:15Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't like it. Go ahead, Jason.
- 4:19Speaker 3: I think it's, yeah, you're right. It's not morally correct
- 4:26Speaker 3: to be gambling. I'm not a big gambler myself. So,
- 4:30Speaker 3: I mean, here's the deal. You know, you're seeing it
- 4:34Speaker 3: more and more. It's greed, I think.
- 4:36Speaker 2: It's just very.
- 4:39Speaker 3: It just kind of gives a black eye to the
- 4:42Speaker 3: sport in a lot of ways. And it's just because
- 4:46Speaker 3: everything is betting, even college now. I was just seeing
- 4:50Speaker 3: a report on Yahoo that college football, you can't bet
- 4:56Speaker 3: like on FanDuel or FanDuel Sportsbook in certain states. So
- 5:02Speaker 3: like you said, it's really a black eye, I think,
- 5:05Speaker 3: to the sport.
- 5:06Speaker 1: I'm going to turn it over to you, Eddie.
- 5:10Speaker 8: Well, I mean, to what the guys were saying, I mean,
- 5:13Speaker 8: I think it's definitely a black guy. I think the
- 5:17Speaker 8: viewer and the fan is going to start losing confidence.
- 5:22Speaker 8: I mean, we saw it in the Michigan game. I mean,
- 5:24Speaker 8: how many people, as soon as that call was made
- 5:28Speaker 8: by the referee, thought there was something underlying in it
- 5:34Speaker 8: that somebody had a bet or something like that, you know?
- 5:38Speaker 6: It just leads to that kind of stuff.
- 5:41Speaker 8: And to Jason's point, DraftKings has been all over the
- 5:45Speaker 8: TV for the past couple of days promoting that they're
- 5:48Speaker 8: in all 50 states now.
- 5:51Speaker 5: So, I mean, it.
- 5:53Speaker 6: Really, I think, jeopardizes.
- 6:00Speaker 8: The spirit of the game and.
- 6:03Speaker 6: The Black Sox scandal back then.
- 6:06Speaker 8: Back in the day, you had the potential for those
- 6:09Speaker 8: kind of situations coming up now.
- 6:11Speaker 6: Across all sports. I think we're dancing with the devil
- 6:16Speaker 6: at this point.
- 6:18Speaker 1: Okay, Cliff.
- 6:20Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so much wrong with this. You're totally right
- 6:24Speaker 4: on the whole conflict of interest. They're right on top
- 6:29Speaker 4: of everything. They know things that they don't necessarily release
- 6:33Speaker 4: all the time because they can't. They are constantly in
- 6:37Speaker 4: contact with the athletes, with the coaches. They know what's
- 6:40Speaker 4: going on. Any bit of information, it can be very,
- 6:45Speaker 4: very valuable. And they know it. And it's been a
- 6:49Speaker 4: problem for a while. I mean, how long did it–
- 6:52Speaker 4: I mean, remember Jimmy the Greek? I mean, he would
- 6:55Speaker 4: be doing NFL on the NFL CBS show all those years.
- 7:00Speaker 4: And I mean, then you go– and I'm a massive
- 7:02Speaker 4: fantasy football fan. But I think the whole fantasy craze
- 7:07Speaker 4: kind of like normalized all that. Yeah, there was betting
- 7:10Speaker 4: before that. Don't get me wrong. There's been betting there forever,
- 7:13Speaker 4: but it's become more mainstream because of that. And then
- 7:16Speaker 4: you have technology that made it so much easier. And
- 7:20Speaker 4: ESPN fantasy, you can watch it every day. And all
- 7:27Speaker 4: this galing that's going on, and then reporters are talking
- 7:30Speaker 4: about it. What if they're involved somewhere with gambling, kind
- 7:36Speaker 4: of like behind the scenes? Yeah, they're not supposed to
- 7:39Speaker 4: be doing that stuff, but it's so easy now. Like
- 7:42Speaker 4: you said, you have the apps. You have the apps.
- 7:47Speaker 4: You can log in under somebody else if you want,
- 7:50Speaker 4: a fake name or somebody else, or somebody else can
- 7:53Speaker 4: do a bet for you. A friend can do a
- 7:55Speaker 4: bet for you or something like that. So there's way
- 7:59Speaker 4: too many problems there. And now we have, like you
- 8:02Speaker 4: just said, you went to the arena and there's a
- 8:06Speaker 4: sports book in there. And it's not Vegas, okay? It's
- 8:12Speaker 4: all over. Don't they have a casino in Cincinnati right now?
- 8:16Speaker 4: Or some kind of thing in there, some sort of
- 8:19Speaker 4: sports book or something in Cincinnati Stadium or something I heard?
- 8:23Speaker 4: I think that's the ultimate ridiculous thing with sports. Pete
- 8:28Speaker 4: Rose and all that. Um, the, the moment, the moment he, uh,
- 8:31Speaker 4: the moment they put that in, they should have taken,
- 8:34Speaker 4: they should have said, okay, you're in the hall of
- 8:35Speaker 4: fame now. You know, this, there's way too many things
- 8:39Speaker 4: going on. There's way too much money. It's way too easy.
- 8:42Speaker 4: And there's way we as journalists that we take a sacred,
- 8:47Speaker 4: it's like a sacred, it's a sacred trust, you know,
- 8:50Speaker 4: and we have to do this right. If we don't
- 8:52Speaker 4: do it right and we have other things getting in
- 8:54Speaker 4: the way, uh, it's, it's, there's no point. We're not
- 8:58Speaker 4: journalists anymore. You're fired. You're done. Goodbye. All right. But
- 9:03Speaker 4: that's not the way the world, the world is. And it's, it's, it's,
- 9:05Speaker 4: it's just going to get worse and worse and worse. We're,
- 9:08Speaker 4: we're already seeing things pop up here and there. Oh,
- 9:11Speaker 4: gambling here, gambling there. It's, we're just getting started. We're
- 9:14Speaker 4: just getting started with that. We all know it's going
- 9:16Speaker 4: to be, it's going to be this big deluge and
- 9:18Speaker 4: there can be some massive thing that's going to be
- 9:20Speaker 4: exposed and championships and like maybe records or whatever, or
- 9:25Speaker 4: certain things. They're all going to be questioned because the
- 9:28Speaker 4: money keeps coming in. And as long as the money
- 9:30Speaker 4: keeps coming in, that's all people really care about when
- 9:34Speaker 4: it's not really, that's really isn't the way it should be.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Totally agree.
- 9:39Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Well said. The bottom line is, is if there's a
- 9:42Speaker 1: conflict between a sports organization that actually is delivering the
- 9:46Speaker 1: news and then doing business as a gambling partner, I
- 9:51Speaker 1: don't know that again, I'll reiterate my thoughts to everybody.
- 9:54Speaker 1: There's a conflict of interest. No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 10:00Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 10:03Speaker 7: Where do you start with this? I mean, let's face it.
- 10:08Speaker 7: Betting has taken over the world. Let's face it. There's
- 10:11Speaker 7: more casinos than there ever was. Now there's gambling on
- 10:14Speaker 7: all the cruise ships There's casinos everywhere. And now you're
- 10:24Speaker 7: talking about DraftKings and all these apps that you can
- 10:29Speaker 7: use to bet on sports. Do athletes know that it's wrong?
- 10:38Speaker 1: Yes.
- 10:38Speaker 7: And you can't tell me that they don't. We have
- 10:40Speaker 7: all talked about it. Everyone has talked about it. But
- 10:46Speaker 7: it's also... America has become... I want to make a
- 10:50Speaker 7: quick buck and I want to have fun doing it.
- 10:53Speaker 7: So what are they going to do? They're going to
- 10:54Speaker 7: bet on sports. It brings a little more, it brings
- 10:58Speaker 7: more of the casual fan in as well, because that
- 11:02Speaker 7: now they can, you know, put a little money on it,
- 11:04Speaker 7: have a little more interest in it, so to speak. Um,
- 11:09Speaker 7: I know that there are people out there that maybe
- 11:11Speaker 7: weren't as interested in the sport or watching the sport before,
- 11:15Speaker 7: but now if they put a little money on it, Oh,
- 11:17Speaker 7: the odds are, Hey, he, Their point spread is 10.
- 11:20Speaker 7: Are we going to make it or not? And now
- 11:23Speaker 7: they're more interested in watching the game as well. But
- 11:27Speaker 7: it has no place.
- 11:31Speaker 4: With athletes.
- 11:32Speaker 7: The athletes have to stay away from it. And they
- 11:35Speaker 7: just have to learn. That's the way it is.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Okay. Well, actually, it's funny how you say draft games
- 11:40Speaker 1: because with that said, immediately after this took place, ESPN
- 11:45Speaker 1: actually struck a major deal with draft games. Now, this
- 11:48Speaker 1: one I have no problem with. Okay. Rav Kings is
- 11:52Speaker 1: a credible organization. At least ESPN stays in the media
- 11:56Speaker 1: journalism business. Rav Kings is an entity of its own.
- 12:01Speaker 1: This one I'm okay with. What about you, John?
- 12:04Speaker 2: Well, you know, I still have to worry about that.
- 12:07Speaker 2: You know, I remember it was one of the legends
- 12:09Speaker 2: of the sport business, you know, Chet Forty. What happened
- 12:13Speaker 2: to him? You know, he lost Monday Night Football. You know,
- 12:16Speaker 2: because he was addicted to gambling. And like I said,
- 12:21Speaker 2: I understand it's hard to leave revenue on the table.
- 12:25Speaker 2: You know, somebody's going to get it. But, God, let
- 12:27Speaker 2: that stuff stay in Vegas.
- 12:30Speaker 4: Okay.
- 12:30Speaker 1: No, that's fair. I appreciate that, John. Go ahead, Jason.
- 12:35Speaker 3: I think, you know, they'll be partnering with DraftKings, ESPN, and,
- 12:40Speaker 3: you know, for sponsorship, obviously. I mean– I don't really
- 12:45Speaker 3: see a problem with that, I guess. But then again,
- 12:49Speaker 3: you know, they're advertising. It's constant, you know, from Sportsbook
- 12:55Speaker 3: and beyond. But, you know, again, like I said, it
- 13:01Speaker 3: doesn't really affect me on the thought process of them
- 13:05Speaker 3: being a sponsorship. But other than that, I don't really
- 13:10Speaker 3: have anything else.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Go ahead, Eddie.
- 13:14Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, they're not directly involved.
- 13:18Speaker 8: They're indirectly involved, and they're looking at it from a
- 13:21Speaker 8: business perspective.
- 13:22Speaker 6: They're asking for advertising dollars.
- 13:25Speaker 8: If you watch ESPN in the morning, the DraftKings logo
- 13:28Speaker 8: is down by the thread that's running across the bottom
- 13:33Speaker 8: the whole show. So you know who the ticker is
- 13:37Speaker 8: sponsored by. And I think it just continues to what
- 13:42Speaker 8: Candy said. earlier, it's, you know, betting is everywhere now.
- 13:47Speaker 8: It used to be in Atlantic City and Vegas. Now
- 13:50Speaker 8: it's even less in Vegas because all those casinos are
- 13:52Speaker 8: shutting down. Now it's just everywhere else. You don't have
- 13:55Speaker 8: to go to Vegas or Atlantic City. You can just,
- 13:59Speaker 8: you know, back here in the D.C. area, you can
- 14:02Speaker 8: just go over to MGM now. And so it's, I
- 14:06Speaker 8: don't know. I just think.
- 14:07Speaker 6: We're on a very slippery slope with sports betting because,
- 14:11Speaker 6: you people are going to get hurt and people are
- 14:14Speaker 6: going to potentially lose confidence in the integrity of the
- 14:18Speaker 6: games being played.
- 14:20Speaker 1: All right, Cliff.
- 14:22Speaker 3: All right.
- 14:22Speaker 4: Uh, sponsorships, what in any, in any, um, organization, even
- 14:26Speaker 4: like in TV news, the sponsorships and, um, uh, of, of,
- 14:31Speaker 4: of certain companies. Now we're specifically talking about draft Kings
- 14:35Speaker 4: and coverage has always been something that we've always dealt with.
- 14:39Speaker 4: And I know you, you know that very well, uh, Scott, Because,
- 14:42Speaker 4: you know, local advertisers, stuff like that, coverage. Heck, I've
- 14:47Speaker 4: witnessed it myself. Some guy came in saying, oh, they're
- 14:50Speaker 4: a sales guy. Oh, you can't talk about this story.
- 14:52Speaker 4: And the reporter's like, go away. I have a job
- 14:55Speaker 4: to do. I don't care if they're a sponsor. But this,
- 14:59Speaker 4: you know, this, once again, we're going back into the
- 15:01Speaker 4: whole DraftKings side. There's, yeah, they might not be directly there,
- 15:06Speaker 4: but it's still in the mind. You don't know what's
- 15:09Speaker 4: going behind the scenes. Um, because they are sponsors or
- 15:13Speaker 4: maybe that you don't know if they're not supposed to be, um, like, uh,
- 15:17Speaker 4: maybe giving them special benefits or, Hey, we have, you know,
- 15:20Speaker 4: the sponsor wants to bring us to dinner or something
- 15:23Speaker 4: like that. And you don't know what that kind of
- 15:26Speaker 4: things are things that might seem, you know, Oh, it's
- 15:29Speaker 4: not a big deal. But as you know, I'm being
- 15:32Speaker 4: a journalist too. That's, that's strictly like, you know, that's
- 15:36Speaker 4: strictly forbidden with those kinds of things and those kinds
- 15:39Speaker 4: of benefits. Um, So it's yeah, it's I've always had
- 15:44Speaker 4: a problem with that. Yeah, it's hey, yeah, I come
- 15:48Speaker 4: from news. It's like how many things are how many segments? Oh,
- 15:51Speaker 4: this this weather segment is brought to you by this
- 15:54Speaker 4: car lot or this, you know, kind of thing. So
- 15:56Speaker 4: it's it's always it's always been there. It's just it's
- 16:02Speaker 4: not it's not a chicken place or it's not a
- 16:04Speaker 4: car dealership. It's a gambling thing. And yes, they have
- 16:08Speaker 4: the fantasy thing. So, oh, well, it kind of goes together.
- 16:11Speaker 4: They're called draft kings. What's more draft than ESPN fantasy?
- 16:16Speaker 4: It makes all that much sense. But you got to
- 16:20Speaker 4: think from the bigger picture. You got to think about
- 16:22Speaker 4: your credibility. You got to think about the very point
- 16:27Speaker 4: of why you're on the air and what you're doing.
- 16:31Speaker 4: It has to come down to that. And that's that's
- 16:35Speaker 4: a problem a lot of times with a lot of
- 16:37Speaker 4: different things and not just sports and in a lot
- 16:40Speaker 4: of corporate things and coverage with news and stuff like that,
- 16:43Speaker 4: things that shouldn't be, shouldn't be involved with it. They
- 16:47Speaker 4: are because of the reality is when it always comes
- 16:50Speaker 4: down to one thing, all these things are companies and
- 16:54Speaker 4: they're there to make money period. All right. And yeah,
- 17:00Speaker 4: so that's, that's something we have to understand. I don't
- 17:03Speaker 4: like it. I never have, but that's their mentality.
- 17:08Speaker 1: Okay. Go ahead, Candy.
- 17:11Speaker 7: Let's face it. All of it is a business. Even
- 17:13Speaker 7: the sports are a business. And we forget about that sometimes.
- 17:18Speaker 7: So are there sponsorships out there? Of course. Should they
- 17:22Speaker 7: be intertwined as some of them are?
- 17:25Speaker 8: No.
- 17:26Speaker 7: Back in the day, I mean, let's face it. How
- 17:29Speaker 7: many cigarette ads did you see back in the day when...
- 17:32Speaker 7: before they said it wasn't healthy for us. And how
- 17:39Speaker 7: many alcohol ads do we have? How many of this
- 17:42Speaker 7: do we have? It's a business, and the people that
- 17:47Speaker 7: make the money are the ones that are going to
- 17:48Speaker 7: spend the money more so. We see more and more
- 17:52Speaker 7: of it all along. If you look around, go to
- 17:58Speaker 7: a baseball game. college or high school and you see
- 18:04Speaker 7: banners all around the edge and stuff like that, some
- 18:07Speaker 7: of them could be DraftKings. You just never know. Does
- 18:13Speaker 7: it make sense sometimes?
- 18:15Speaker 4: Yes.
- 18:15Speaker 7: Sometimes no.
- 18:16Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the bottom line is when you compare
- 18:21Speaker 1: and contrast ESPN debt versus DraftKings, again, I'm going to
- 18:28Speaker 1: go back to what I said earlier. Conflict of interest
- 18:30Speaker 1: on one DraftKings makes more sense. We all know what
- 18:34Speaker 1: betting does. Again, Pete Rose is a great example. I
- 18:40Speaker 1: can think of so many other examples. He's definitely one
- 18:42Speaker 1: of them, but that's what it is. DraftKings makes more
- 18:46Speaker 1: sense mentally for me because they're a gambling organization. ESPN
- 18:51Speaker 1: is not.
- 18:54Speaker 4: I do want to make one last point. Your universe,
- 18:57Speaker 4: sports podcasts, How many sports podcasts have DraftKings as a sponsor?
- 19:07Speaker 4: I can't tell you how many times I list it.
- 19:08Speaker 4: It's any number one of any of them. And even
- 19:12Speaker 4: if they just get started, they get a little bit
- 19:13Speaker 4: of traction, chances are one of the sponsorships they have
- 19:19Speaker 4: is going to be DraftKings.
- 19:21Speaker 2: Okay.
- 19:22Speaker 1: No, that's good. All right. Well, we'll talk baseball, and
- 19:26Speaker 1: then the topic Cliff is anxiously awaiting.
- 19:30Speaker 4: I like baseball, too.
- 19:31Speaker 1: All right, well, good. This one's right up Jason Proctor's
- 19:36Speaker 1: alley because the Red Sox designated Jake Rogers for assignment
- 19:43Speaker 1: is what they did. He goes from actually being from
- 19:47Speaker 1: the Detroit Tigers to Baltimore for a short cup of coffee.
- 19:53Speaker 1: That's funny. To Boston and lands with the Chicago White Sox.
- 19:56Speaker 1: Go figure. You talk about a whirlwind for a player.
- 20:00Speaker 1: What do you think, John? Jake Rogers got some frequent
- 20:04Speaker 1: flyer miles pretty early. Oh, Lord.
- 20:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:09Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 20:10Speaker 2: You know, that was a bit much. You know, but
- 20:14Speaker 2: you see some of these players, you know, have changed.
- 20:18Speaker 2: You know, heck, I look at some of the nationals
- 20:20Speaker 2: that we had. You've had Juan Soto, great player. He's
- 20:27Speaker 2: on his fourth team in four years. You know, it's
- 20:31Speaker 2: not just the Stars, but it's the other guys. And
- 20:33Speaker 2: I understand. I love there's this player that I love
- 20:37Speaker 2: that took over for Soto. when he got traded to
- 20:40Speaker 2: San Diego, Joey Menezes, you know, he's gone back and forth.
- 20:45Speaker 2: You know, he's, uh, he played with the nationals, went
- 20:49Speaker 2: back to the minors, played a, got a cup of
- 20:51Speaker 2: coffee with the angels, went back to the minors, went
- 20:54Speaker 2: with the athletics. And now he's just gone back to
- 20:58Speaker 2: the minors and, you know, and I love the guys
- 21:00Speaker 2: that are chasing the dream. Uh, you know, I hope that, uh,
- 21:05Speaker 2: he can catch fire someplace.
- 21:08Speaker 1: Well, he's with the Chicago White Sox. Here's an interesting
- 21:10Speaker 1: story for all y'all. I interviewed him as an upcoming
- 21:13Speaker 1: prospect with the Detroit Tigers down here. And I like
- 21:16Speaker 1: Jake Rogers. And I have to tell you, most of
- 21:19Speaker 1: the time in my younger days, I was a catcher.
- 21:21Speaker 1: So I can speak the catcher language really good. And
- 21:24Speaker 1: if you want to know that, go on Monday nights
- 21:26Speaker 1: and you see my buddy Barry Foot and I on
- 21:29Speaker 1: the air along with Philadelphia Phillies pitcher Warren Brewster. And
- 21:34Speaker 1: I think the three of us have fun. But Barry's
- 21:36Speaker 1: a catcher. So is Jake Rogers. And Jake Rogers is
- 21:39Speaker 1: currently with the Chicago White Sox. Go ahead. And he
- 21:42Speaker 1: actually returned to Comerica Park as a member of the
- 21:45Speaker 1: White Sox and a division rival. I'm setting you up
- 21:48Speaker 1: real good, Jason Brock. Take it from there.
- 21:52Speaker 3: So he had a home run, a walk-off home run
- 21:55Speaker 3: for the White Sox last week. He's why I love
- 22:00Speaker 3: the game of baseball. He's a great teammate. Defensively, he's
- 22:07Speaker 3: got good numbers defensively. This season, out of 15 runners,
- 22:14Speaker 3: he's thrown out 11 guys. I mean, when he does play,
- 22:18Speaker 3: that's 73% of his runners. He's 27% in his career.
- 22:24Speaker 3: It's not too bad. And then, you know, in college,
- 22:28Speaker 3: Scott and guys, he was 83 of 146 runners thrown out.
- 22:36Speaker 3: That's 56.8%. That's a school record at Tulane. So that's
- 22:42Speaker 3: why he still plays, and he does have power. And Baltimore,
- 22:47Speaker 3: I don't know what happened there in Boston. I think
- 22:51Speaker 3: they just didn't have enough room there for him. So
- 22:54Speaker 3: Chicago picked him up, and I can't be more happy
- 22:59Speaker 3: for the guy, really. But he's definitely a good utility man.
- 23:06Speaker 3: if anything.
- 23:08Speaker 1: Well, he's steady. Well, that's it. I was leading to that.
- 23:13Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up. From an overall standpoint, when
- 23:16Speaker 1: you evaluate him in general, he's steady. He's a good
- 23:19Speaker 1: defensive catcher. The biggest thing is he calls a great game. Offensively,
- 23:23Speaker 1: he's a little off. Okay, go ahead, Eddie. Great point.
- 23:28Speaker 8: Yeah, Scott, like you, my dad played catcher in high
- 23:31Speaker 8: school and college baseball. My brother played catcher as a
- 23:36Speaker 8: I come from a baseball junkie family. But, you know,
- 23:38Speaker 8: I think Jake kind of shows the persistence of those
- 23:45Speaker 8: guys who are on the cusp of being good. And
- 23:48Speaker 8: they have to find where they fit for whatever reason.
- 23:53Speaker 8: And what they have to do is they just have
- 23:55Speaker 8: to keep grinding.
- 23:57Speaker 6: And that's what makes baseball so interesting.
- 24:00Speaker 8: Some of these guys are drafted right out of high school,
- 24:03Speaker 8: right out of college. You know, and they have, you know, baseball,
- 24:08Speaker 8: if you really look at it, you know, there's a
- 24:10Speaker 8: long career span compared to some of the other sports. And,
- 24:13Speaker 8: you know, if he just got drafted in 19 and
- 24:16Speaker 8: just started his career and it's only 26, so he's
- 24:18Speaker 8: only seven, roughly seven seasons in, you know, yeah, he's
- 24:23Speaker 8: bounced around, but hopefully, you know, the weight sucks.
- 24:26Speaker 6: Give him a home. You know, Jason's reading off the stats,
- 24:29Speaker 6: you know, some good stats.
- 24:30Speaker 8: And, you know, if he can start producing with the bat,
- 24:33Speaker 8: Maybe he's going to find himself a home in the
- 24:35Speaker 8: Windy City. Hopefully that'll be where he can set his
- 24:39Speaker 8: roots and build upon the career that he wants. But
- 24:43Speaker 8: I think he is really the epitome of that guy
- 24:46Speaker 8: who really needs to grind to get into the show,
- 24:52Speaker 8: if you will.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Sure.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Go ahead, Les.
- 24:58Speaker 4: This reminds me of, you remember Charlie O'Brien?
- 25:02Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 25:02Speaker 4: Charlie O'Brien, former Braves, Mets. Braves. He couldn't hit very well,
- 25:10Speaker 4: but he was good defensively, and he could call a
- 25:14Speaker 4: real good game. The secret to him, though, was Greg
- 25:18Speaker 4: Maddux loved pitching to him. So if Greg Maddux loves
- 25:22Speaker 4: pitching to you, you're not going anywhere. That's what he
- 25:26Speaker 4: needs to do. That's what he had to find.
- 25:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:29Speaker 4: Is find a really good money pitcher that absolutely adores
- 25:35Speaker 4: that catcher. He might not hit one 75, but if
- 25:40Speaker 4: that star pitcher or a couple of the star pitchers
- 25:43Speaker 4: likes that guy, he will be there for years. Absolute years.
- 25:50Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 25:50Speaker 4: Charlie O'Brien couldn't hit, could call a game and he
- 25:53Speaker 4: had wonderful hair. His hair was very, very curly. Um, But, yeah,
- 25:58Speaker 4: Maddox and the other guys, and remember, it's the Braves.
- 26:01Speaker 4: They had a whole lot of Cy Young guys there.
- 26:03Speaker 4: They liked pitching to him. And I think Javi Lopez
- 26:08Speaker 4: was on that team too, and he had the bat.
- 26:12Speaker 4: And that's what he really needs. That's just like Charlie O'Brien.
- 26:18Speaker 4: That's what he had to find, that guy who just
- 26:21Speaker 4: absolutely loves him. And he would have been on a
- 26:24Speaker 4: team for years and years and years.
- 26:26Speaker 1: Okay, Katie.
- 26:28Speaker 7: You know, I remember you talking to Jake. Great guy.
- 26:32Speaker 7: He was injured last year. When he got injured last year,
- 26:37Speaker 7: Dylan Dingler came up, did a really fantastic job. That's
- 26:43Speaker 7: why he lost his job to him for the Tigers.
- 26:46Speaker 7: I mean, he hit in 46 appearances last year, he
- 26:49Speaker 7: hit 187. You're not going to keep a job like that.
- 26:56Speaker 7: So then this year he played in 34 games and
- 27:00Speaker 7: he hit 161. Right. So the Tigers traded him to
- 27:06Speaker 7: the Oreos. For the Oreos he batted, he went one
- 27:09Speaker 7: for five. 200 batting average with a walk. So he
- 27:14Speaker 7: made three appearances. Then he was traded to the Boston.
- 27:18Speaker 7: Boston he went three for six.
- 27:21Speaker 8: But.
- 27:21Speaker 7: Like you said, there wasn't enough room on their lineup,
- 27:24Speaker 7: so they designated him for assignment. August 14th, Rodgers was
- 27:29Speaker 7: claimed off waivers by the White Sox. His first game
- 27:33Speaker 7: with the White Sox was against his former team, the Tigers,
- 27:37Speaker 7: at Comerica Park. Welcome back to the old friendly confines.
- 27:43Speaker 7: You know, some baseball players manage to stay with their
- 27:48Speaker 7: team for their entire career. A lot of them don't.
- 27:52Speaker 7: And a lot of them get moved around and it depends.
- 27:55Speaker 7: Sometimes it's just about the right fit at the right
- 27:57Speaker 7: time and the right coaches for you too. Maybe he's
- 28:02Speaker 7: found that in the White Sox. That'll be yet to
- 28:06Speaker 7: be determined.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the fit with the White Sox. I
- 28:10Speaker 1: really do. Number one, he knows the division well. Number two,
- 28:14Speaker 1: they know him well as a good defensive clincher. As
- 28:19Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, I Outside of his offense, the
- 28:22Speaker 1: guy's a heck of a catcher. I think the White
- 28:25Speaker 1: Sox should be fortunate that this guy fell into their lap.
- 28:28Speaker 1: All right, well, it's time to talk about Atlanta hockey, people.
- 28:31Speaker 1: And I know that Cliff is gearing up for this
- 28:34Speaker 1: and everybody waits for the show because we need one
- 28:36Speaker 1: of them. We might have a couple of side shows
- 28:38Speaker 1: in this show. All right, well, let's talk about some updates. Obviously,
- 28:42Speaker 1: Atlanta hockey, Alpharetta itself is approved in Georgia. We're talking
- 28:49Speaker 1: about the suburbs here. Okay, you're not talking about downtown
- 28:52Speaker 1: Atlanta where obviously hockey failed. If they're making a proposal
- 28:58Speaker 1: to bring back to downtown Atlanta, I say there's no
- 29:00Speaker 1: way you're getting a franchise. But let me go over
- 29:03Speaker 1: the statistics. The Alpharetta Planning Commission approved plans to redevelop
- 29:08Speaker 1: the North Point Mall into a mixed-use development centered around
- 29:13Speaker 1: a 20,000-seat hockey arena. currently waiting on approval for Alpharetta
- 29:17Speaker 1: City Council, which will pass with flying colors. The arena
- 29:21Speaker 1: is being built with the explicit intent, I said explicit intent,
- 29:25Speaker 1: to bring a third team to Atlanta. Atlanta was home
- 29:28Speaker 1: to the Atlanta Flames and the Atlanta Thrashers. Well, the
- 29:33Speaker 1: Flames from 72 to 1980 and the old Omni. And
- 29:37Speaker 1: then the Atlanta Thrashers from 1999 to 2011. The Flames
- 29:43Speaker 1: moved to Calgary to become Calgary Flames. And the Thrashers
- 29:46Speaker 1: moved to Winnipeg to become the Winnipeg Jets. We'll start
- 29:49Speaker 1: with you, John.
- 29:49Speaker 2: Will they in eight years become the Quebec Nordiques?
- 29:55Speaker 1: Okay. That's all right. I'm okay. That's what I need.
- 29:57Speaker 2: The one thing about Atlanta is they are a media market.
- 30:02Speaker 2: I mean, what was headquartered there? CNN. You've got a
- 30:07Speaker 2: lot of disposable income. You've got all the other major
- 30:10Speaker 2: league sports there. You know, I hate to see them
- 30:15Speaker 2: get a franchise ahead of somebody more deserving like Houston, Quebec.
- 30:22Speaker 2: Even Arizona has been promised to franchise for letting the
- 30:28Speaker 2: Coyotes go up to become the Utah Mammoth. But you've
- 30:34Speaker 2: got an arena. You've got somebody willing to pay the
- 30:39Speaker 2: entry fee, which I think is $ 2 billion now. It's
- 30:44Speaker 2: hard to turn that away. Hey, sad note here, since
- 30:49Speaker 2: we're on hockey. Former Kings coach Barry Melrose just flashed
- 30:54Speaker 2: on my phone a couple of minutes ago, passed away today.
- 30:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I just noticed that too. Barry Melrose, rest in peace.
- 31:03Speaker 1: Wasn't he dealing with Parkinson's? Yeah, that's what I thought.
- 31:08Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Barry. Thanks for bringing that up, John.
- 31:10Speaker 1: I noticed that. I'm glad that you took a moment
- 31:12Speaker 1: just to go out there and bring it in. Great stuff, John.
- 31:17Speaker 1: There's hope for you in this journalism business after all.
- 31:20Speaker 1: kidding with you. You're doing fantastic, Johnny.
- 31:23Speaker 2: God, my advisor back at Mizzou would be having a
- 31:26Speaker 2: heart attack right now.
- 31:30Speaker 1: We don't need any more tests. Keep up the good work, John.
- 31:34Speaker 1: That's all I'm going to tell you. You're doing fantastic.
- 31:37Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jason. We'll work in Atlanta the third time.
- 31:41Speaker 3: You know what, Scott? I was reading this on Fox News,
- 31:46Speaker 3: an article I found on August 26th. It said that
- 31:49Speaker 3: Proposal was led by real estate and place-making firm for
- 31:53Speaker 3: the site owner, New York Life, and in partnership with
- 31:57Speaker 3: real estate developer Machete Group, which specializes in this project. Look,
- 32:03Speaker 3: it's obviously not harder. There's going to be a lot
- 32:06Speaker 3: of money moving around there. And also I wanted to
- 32:11Speaker 3: bring up that they're going to have a music venue,
- 32:14Speaker 3: convention space, and a public hockey rink with 2,000 seats, 1,100-seat
- 32:16Speaker 3: music theater. and 35,000-seat hotel that I've rented. Here's the
- 32:28Speaker 3: hotel rooms. I'm sorry. Here's my thought on this. Man,
- 32:33Speaker 3: I just wish it was just another city. Like, I'm
- 32:36Speaker 3: not hating on Atlanta really so much. It's just, obviously,
- 32:42Speaker 3: Canada would be, you know, someone like a Quebec. Houston,
- 32:48Speaker 3: like John was saying, you know, So, I don't know.
- 32:52Speaker 3: If it didn't last the last time, 1999 to 2011,
- 32:55Speaker 3: with the Thrashers, I just don't know. I'm just crazy
- 33:03Speaker 3: to think about what the fan base is going to
- 33:07Speaker 3: be there.
- 33:10Speaker 1: Fair enough. Go ahead, Eddie.
- 33:13Speaker 6: I think it's an interesting thought to move a team
- 33:15Speaker 6: down to Atlanta. As everybody said, a lot of money there,
- 33:18Speaker 6: disposable income. They're going to build a facility to house
- 33:23Speaker 6: the organization.
- 33:24Speaker 8: If you look at it, the success of the hockey
- 33:29Speaker 8: has been coming from the South recently. If you look
- 33:31Speaker 8: at Carolina, if you look at Florida, Tampa Bay's even
- 33:35Speaker 8: had some successful teams.
- 33:40Speaker 6: A lot of sports is down in Atlanta. It kind
- 33:43Speaker 6: of makes sense.
- 33:44Speaker 8: Maybe all those Northerners who know how to skate are
- 33:47Speaker 8: coming down here and we've talked about it on sports rap. No,
- 33:52Speaker 8: why the Canadians can't keep good players in Canada is
- 33:55Speaker 8: because of the money. You know, the players want to
- 33:58Speaker 8: come to the, to the States and then even go
- 34:01Speaker 8: to the South where it's a lot warmer. They can,
- 34:04Speaker 8: you know, you know, Mike Santos has said it, you know,
- 34:07Speaker 8: they want to take their wives and their girlfriends.
- 34:09Speaker 6: To places that they can hang out and it's warm
- 34:12Speaker 6: in it. Land is relative.
- 34:13Speaker 8: I mean, it's not Florida, but it's, Still down in
- 34:16Speaker 8: the south, and it's warm for a good part of
- 34:18Speaker 8: the time. So, you know, it might make sense to
- 34:22Speaker 8: put a team down there and see.
- 34:24Speaker 6: Who knows? Maybe Quebec will eventually get a team.
- 34:27Speaker 1: But who knows? Well, here's the thing. I do agree
- 34:32Speaker 1: with John. Houston's going to get a team as well.
- 34:35Speaker 1: I think they're going to be the second one. They
- 34:36Speaker 1: want to put another team in Texas. And I think
- 34:39Speaker 1: there's thought that the Houston Arrows could be making return.
- 34:42Speaker 1: That's what I think, John. Take it for whatever it's worth.
- 34:44Speaker 1: There's a good history there. Gordie Howe and his son
- 34:47Speaker 1: played for the Houston arrows, but Atlanta, again, you're talking
- 34:50Speaker 1: to major markets can afford $ 2 billion price tag.
- 34:53Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:53Speaker 2: So here's a dark horse for you. Uh, Stan Kroenke,
- 34:57Speaker 2: even though he owns the avalanche is building a brand
- 35:01Speaker 2: new sports arena in San Diego. And I always thought
- 35:05Speaker 2: San Diego would have been a perfect place for the
- 35:08Speaker 2: coyotes to have gone to, you know, to keep them
- 35:11Speaker 2: at least close geographically. But, uh, Hard to say. You know,
- 35:18Speaker 2: you have the Padres sold for a lot of money.
- 35:22Speaker 2: There is money in San Diego, and they would probably
- 35:26Speaker 2: be a great NHL team. The AHL team, the Gulls,
- 35:31Speaker 2: and the current sports arena averages about $ 12, 000 to $ 14, 000
- 35:37Speaker 2: a year, depending on how good they are.
- 35:40Speaker 1: Okay. All right. Well, you know what? Let's turn over
- 35:42Speaker 1: to Cliff.
- 35:44Speaker 4: You know how I feel about this.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Twice.
- 35:47Speaker 4: Twice they have failed. They have failed miserably. Stop trying
- 35:55Speaker 4: to make something that doesn't work work. I don't care
- 35:59Speaker 4: how many things they have planned. That doesn't mean they
- 36:02Speaker 4: give a damn about the game. I care about the game,
- 36:07Speaker 4: the honor, the heritage of the game. Those people don't
- 36:12Speaker 4: care about the game.
- 36:13Speaker 7: They will die.
- 36:14Speaker 4: They are flaky, right out the door. They're not going
- 36:17Speaker 4: to give two smorable flops. I'm coming up with words.
- 36:22Speaker 4: I can't even... It is disgusting. It is vile that
- 36:26Speaker 4: they want to go back to that joke. It is
- 36:29Speaker 4: insane that he wants to go, oh, I'm smart. Oh,
- 36:33Speaker 4: we're intelligent. We know things.
- 36:35Speaker 8: Oh, the market.
- 36:37Speaker 7: I know all.
- 36:38Speaker 4: About television and media markets. I spent 16 years in
- 36:41Speaker 4: the field myself, and I teach my students all about this.
- 36:46Speaker 4: You can't use that stupid, out-of-date excuse anymore.
- 36:52Speaker 5: Anymore.
- 36:53Speaker 4: Have you heard?
- 36:54Speaker 9: Oh, there's this, it's 2026 now.
- 36:56Speaker 4: It's not 1993, where it's just television and radio. It's,
- 37:01Speaker 4: we do all this, there's this thing, it's called streaming,
- 37:03Speaker 4: and they're always looking at the phones, and they have
- 37:05Speaker 4: all these things. So, that whole thing, we have to evolve.
- 37:09Speaker 4: The industry has to evolve. Sports has to evolve with
- 37:14Speaker 4: the reality and the changing world of media consumption. Just
- 37:18Speaker 4: because there are a certain amount of people in a
- 37:21Speaker 4: given area doesn't mean they're going to go to the
- 37:23Speaker 4: games and they've proven it twice. Has it grown since
- 37:28Speaker 4: then with the media and the film? They're doing lots
- 37:31Speaker 4: of film and other television programming. Sure, but they still
- 37:35Speaker 4: don't give too much whatever's about the game. Real hockey
- 37:40Speaker 4: fans will go to games. Real hockey fans go through
- 37:44Speaker 4: snowstorms to go to games. They had two shots, two
- 37:49Speaker 4: shots to do it, and they failed miserably. I didn't
- 37:52Speaker 4: think Vegas was going to be able to do anything,
- 37:54Speaker 4: but they proved me wrong, and I'm fine with them there.
- 37:57Speaker 4: They've had two shots. Two of them. I'm tired of this.
- 38:02Speaker 4: Because they're going to pay for it. And then they're
- 38:04Speaker 4: just going to move away. This is an insult to
- 38:07Speaker 4: the game. The game is considered like. fourth or fifth
- 38:11Speaker 4: class to everything else i'm sick of it i love
- 38:14Speaker 4: the game i get the game and it's garbage like
- 38:17Speaker 4: this that says oh we're just gonna put it anywhere
- 38:20Speaker 4: oh yeah yeah they're gonna be there they're there to
- 38:22Speaker 4: get drunk okay they're there to get drunk and when
- 38:25Speaker 4: it's not entertaining anymore they're not gonna be there it
- 38:27Speaker 4: was a waste of time it was a waste it
- 38:29Speaker 4: was a slap in the face of the game i'm
- 38:31Speaker 4: tired of it i want real fans i want real
- 38:34Speaker 4: markets and i want this I want this sport to
- 38:37Speaker 4: be seen as the great sport and game that it is.
- 38:42Speaker 4: Garbage like this because of morons who have power and
- 38:46Speaker 4: who are rich and guide everything. They're supposed to be
- 38:49Speaker 4: caretakers of the game. They are not caretakers of the game.
- 38:53Speaker 4: They keep trying to put in, oh, we have a
- 38:55Speaker 4: little thing. It's not the square peg in the round
- 38:59Speaker 4: hole constantly. How many times does it have to fail?
- 39:02Speaker 1: How many times?
- 39:03Speaker 7: Stop it.
- 39:04Speaker 4: And there's other markets who deserve it with people who
- 39:06Speaker 4: love the game, who love this league, who love the
- 39:09Speaker 4: Stanley Cup, who deserve it more than some, oh, they
- 39:12Speaker 4: got the stuff and they'll pay the thing. I don't care.
- 39:16Speaker 4: It's an embarrassment on the league. It's an embarrassment on
- 39:18Speaker 4: the game. And I'm sick of people who's like, oh,
- 39:21Speaker 4: let's look at the shiny new thing. Oh, oh, but
- 39:24Speaker 4: they did it. Oh, we don't don't remember that so
- 39:26Speaker 4: oh have a little substance okay some foundational substance I'm
- 39:31Speaker 4: sick of this. I'm sick of watching my league become
- 39:34Speaker 4: a joke because of these buffoons. I want this game
- 39:39Speaker 4: to be recognized the way it should be. And garbage
- 39:41Speaker 4: like this is what brings it down and what people
- 39:44Speaker 4: think it's a joke. They think the game's a joke
- 39:46Speaker 4: and think people who like it is a joke or
- 39:48Speaker 4: there's some sort of Neanderthal. I'm sick of it. It
- 39:52Speaker 4: means much more than being, oh, we thought it would
- 39:57Speaker 4: be cool if we did that. It didn't work. You
- 39:59Speaker 4: tried it. AHL, that's what you get. You can be
- 40:01Speaker 4: Tampa's AHL affiliate and be happy with that.
- 40:05Speaker 1: Okay?
- 40:06Speaker 4: End of story. Hey, oh, there's another place. Hey, Wisconsin. Hey, Candy. Candy,
- 40:11Speaker 4: you're from Wisconsin?
- 40:12Speaker 1: Does it snow there?
- 40:14Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
- 40:14Speaker 4: Does it have ice there?
- 40:16Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
- 40:16Speaker 8: Do people like hockey there?
- 40:18Speaker 4: I think the University of Wisconsin has a pretty– popular
- 40:22Speaker 4: thing going on there.
- 40:23Speaker 7: They have eight.
- 40:24Speaker 4: Oh yeah oh chicago's not far minnesota's right there built
- 40:30Speaker 4: in built in rivalries but no no we're gonna go
- 40:32Speaker 4: to atlanta for the third.
- 40:33Speaker 9: Time and and be another resounding failure waste the money
- 40:37Speaker 9: waste our time and make us look like a joke
- 40:40Speaker 9: make this game look like a joke and betman and
- 40:43Speaker 9: those buffoons should know better but they don't and they
- 40:46Speaker 9: don't care.
- 40:48Speaker 1: Let me tell you this. Your rent will not qualify
- 40:51Speaker 1: for a short because that's longer than a short. I
- 40:54Speaker 1: call that a lump. Number two, what I need you
- 40:58Speaker 1: to do is I do not have the proper insurance
- 41:01Speaker 1: paperwork in case you have a heart attack over this.
- 41:05Speaker 10: This!
- 41:06Speaker 1: Now it's my turn. I'll let you... Are you out
- 41:09Speaker 1: of gas? Because if you aren't, God only knows you're
- 41:11Speaker 1: running better than a damn diesel, brother.
- 41:14Speaker 5: And.
- 41:15Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing. I don't know what to bet. Whatever.
- 41:18Speaker 1: Let me finish now. It's my turn.
- 41:21Speaker 2: Okay.
- 41:21Speaker 1: You ever heard of that thing called third time in
- 41:23Speaker 1: the charm ever? Yes or no. Don't give me one
- 41:27Speaker 1: of your clip answers. Yes or no.
- 41:31Speaker 4: I've heard of it, but no, not in this case.
- 41:35Speaker 4: Not with this. You don't mess around with this.
- 41:37Speaker 7: No.
- 41:39Speaker 4: We're going to.
- 41:41Speaker 7: It's going to work now.
- 41:42Speaker 8: Yes.
- 41:43Speaker 4: They're flaky down there. They're not going to do it.
- 41:45Speaker 4: They might go to a couple games. Oh, I was like,
- 41:48Speaker 4: they're just. Oh, when's the next NASCAR week?
- 41:51Speaker 8: Oh, the Bulldogs.
- 41:52Speaker 4: The Georgia Bulldogs are on. Georgia Tech's going. Oh, screw that.
- 41:56Speaker 8: Oh, MMA.
- 41:57Speaker 1: Oh, give me a beer.
- 41:59Speaker 4: Oh, forget about it.
- 42:00Speaker 7: Time out.
- 42:02Speaker 1: I gave you a yes or no question. Have you
- 42:05Speaker 1: ever heard the third time it's time? Yes or no?
- 42:08Speaker 1: It's a statement.
- 42:10Speaker 4: No, because you're trying. Yes, I've heard it. You're just
- 42:13Speaker 4: trying to set me up.
- 42:14Speaker 1: How many times? I won't give a damn what I'm
- 42:16Speaker 1: doing to set you up. So flipping what? I kept longer.
- 42:20Speaker 1: kept quiet longer, so I have to argue with you
- 42:22Speaker 1: so you can get it out of your system so
- 42:25Speaker 1: you can go ahead and wipe your head of all
- 42:26Speaker 1: the sweat that you currently have on there now. So
- 42:28Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you for the fourth time, and
- 42:30Speaker 1: I can't believe you're a college professor if you can't
- 42:32Speaker 1: answer a yes or no question. I did.
- 42:35Speaker 4: I have heard it.
- 42:37Speaker 1: Let me finish. I'm the host, and you are one
- 42:43Speaker 1: of the president's men, okay? Fair enough? So, have you
- 42:47Speaker 1: heard the third time is a charm? Yes or no? Also,
- 42:52Speaker 1: he's going to nod his head because you don't want
- 42:53Speaker 1: to admit it.
- 42:54Speaker 4: Yes, I've heard it. Yes, I've said I've heard it.
- 42:56Speaker 1: All right, now let me finish. I'll give you my
- 42:58Speaker 1: point of view. Everybody, if you're all collecting up data
- 43:01Speaker 1: with this back and forth, when we get them later on,
- 43:05Speaker 1: I'm getting this guy warmed up. That's why we love
- 43:07Speaker 1: having this guy on the show. Number one, there's a
- 43:10Speaker 1: big thing. I mentioned it earlier. There's no way it
- 43:14Speaker 1: would ever make it downtown. is going to the suburbs.
- 43:19Speaker 1: Don't give me your body language. Let me finish. I
- 43:22Speaker 1: heard your body language in a loud form. So let
- 43:24Speaker 1: me finish. You understand? Say yes. No, maybe then again
- 43:28Speaker 1: you can say no, you don't understand.
- 43:30Speaker 7: That's better.
- 43:32Speaker 1: But here's the case. He's going to the suburbs. These
- 43:35Speaker 1: people in Alpharetta have a pretty good plan there. The
- 43:39Speaker 1: Braves moved to the suburbs and they're drawing better than
- 43:42Speaker 1: they did downtown. And I feel that that's going to
- 43:45Speaker 1: become the case in Alpharetta. And yes, you're right. It
- 43:48Speaker 1: is a big media market for sure. So I, I mean,
- 43:51Speaker 1: so the NHL knows that the only reason they would
- 43:55Speaker 1: go there is with a long-term, the flames and the
- 44:01Speaker 1: flat thrashers are awful. They didn't last a combined 20
- 44:04Speaker 1: years with both of those two, the way it worked
- 44:06Speaker 1: out because the NHL at that time was sold a
- 44:09Speaker 1: bill of goods, a new stadium. We know the flames
- 44:12Speaker 1: didn't last long in the Omni that was done. But
- 44:17Speaker 1: the reality is the only shot it has is Alpharetta. Period.
- 44:22Speaker 1: Let me finish before you start again. Okay. I gave
- 44:27Speaker 1: you plenty of time. I was being nice. Stick your
- 44:29Speaker 1: tongue at me.
- 44:29Speaker 11: Okay.
- 44:31Speaker 1: I don't care.
- 44:32Speaker 4: That's my problem.
- 44:33Speaker 1: I've seen a whole lot worse than that. The only
- 44:37Speaker 1: shot they have is in the suburbs. Otherwise downtown, forget it.
- 44:41Speaker 1: It would fail. Go somewhere else. And yes, if you're
- 44:43Speaker 1: looking for a potential city that I do feel good support,
- 44:46Speaker 1: The NHL, Milwaukee would certainly be at the top of
- 44:48Speaker 1: my list for sure. I would endorse Milwaukee all day long. Okay,
- 44:52Speaker 1: you have heard Cliff and I, okay? I'm going to
- 44:55Speaker 1: go out there and ask John, what did you make
- 44:59Speaker 1: sense of this little debate with this guy and I, Johnny?
- 45:01Speaker 2: You see teams come and go. I think Cliff is
- 45:05Speaker 2: very passionate about this. I have family in Alpharetta. There
- 45:13Speaker 2: is so much to do, and, you know, the big
- 45:15Speaker 2: thing about Alpharetta is finding someplace else to go for
- 45:20Speaker 2: the weekend. So if it's going to work, like I said,
- 45:25Speaker 2: eight years, they might as well put on the Nordique
- 45:28Speaker 2: jersey already.
- 45:33Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. Okay, Jason.
- 45:37Speaker 3: I appreciate your passion, sir, Cliff. And because I collected
- 45:45Speaker 3: early 90s pro set hockey cards, I will always be
- 45:50Speaker 3: there for a passionate hockey fan. When I started collecting cards,
- 45:56Speaker 3: it was hockey, man. It wasn't anything else. And everybody
- 46:03Speaker 3: in my family are always hockey fans. We're Red Wing
- 46:06Speaker 3: fans here. And I know you're passionate about the Islanders.
- 46:11Speaker 3: And I will always respect that. But yeah, like I said,
- 46:17Speaker 3: it's just, I just don't really think that's going to
- 46:20Speaker 3: work either. But again, they're going to keep trying because
- 46:26Speaker 3: it's a media market. And I just, I don't see
- 46:30Speaker 3: it either because just the fan base and just hockey
- 46:34Speaker 3: in general. So I agree with everything you're saying on
- 46:37Speaker 3: that clip because I just, I mean, it hasn't happened
- 46:42Speaker 3: over the last 40 years going back to the Flames.
- 46:46Speaker 2: Okay.
- 46:49Speaker 1: Eddie?
- 46:50Speaker 6: Two thoughts. Yeah, two thoughts.
- 46:53Speaker 8: I'm trying to figure out if Cliff's more passionate about
- 46:56Speaker 8: Atlanta getting a hockey team or the New York Mets.
- 47:00Speaker 6: And I'm really kind of undecided right now.
- 47:02Speaker 8: Second, you know, Secondarily, maybe we need to send this clip,
- 47:09Speaker 8: the clip of Cliff, to the expansion, to the club
- 47:15Speaker 8: expansion subcommittee of the NHL and let them hear Cliff's points.
- 47:22Speaker 8: Maybe they'll take that under advisement and be able to.
- 47:28Speaker 3: No, but no, I mean.
- 47:29Speaker 4: Over $ 2 billion at stake.
- 47:31Speaker 3: No, right, right.
- 47:32Speaker 6: No, no, I know. I was being... It's being facetious. No,
- 47:39Speaker 6: I mean, we've talked about it here and we've talked
- 47:42Speaker 6: about it on all the other shows. It's about the money.
- 47:44Speaker 8: If the money's there, they get the facility, they're going
- 47:48Speaker 8: to try to stick that square peg into the round
- 47:52Speaker 8: hole again and then stick it somewhere else once it doesn't.
- 47:55Speaker 6: That's fair enough.
- 47:56Speaker 1: Katie, you have the last word. You've said enough, Cliff.
- 48:02Speaker 7: So in Dyersville, Iowa, they said, if you build it,
- 48:06Speaker 7: they will come. That does not mean it's going to
- 48:09Speaker 7: translate the same to Atlanta when you've done it twice before.
- 48:13Speaker 7: How many times do you have to try it before
- 48:17Speaker 7: it just doesn't work? I mean, hey, if you have
- 48:20Speaker 7: some– it's a business. We've talked about this, too, and
- 48:24Speaker 7: I appreciate your passion there, Cliff. But it is a
- 48:27Speaker 7: business at the end of the day. So do you
- 48:30Speaker 7: have a businessman– that's willing to buy it, willing to
- 48:33Speaker 7: put it there, willing to get the players necessary to
- 48:39Speaker 7: make it worthwhile? And then do you have the fans
- 48:44Speaker 7: that are worthwhile, that are going to support it? I
- 48:48Speaker 7: think it deserves to go other places before you go
- 48:51Speaker 7: back to a market that you've been to and it
- 48:53Speaker 7: didn't work and it didn't work again. There are a
- 48:56Speaker 7: lot of other markets that would want it, I would
- 49:00Speaker 7: try it there first as opposed to taking it back
- 49:04Speaker 7: to a place that it has failed twice.
- 49:07Speaker 1: That's all right. That's fair. I'm going to let Rob
- 49:08Speaker 1: in here. I don't want to leave Mr. Moroska out
- 49:11Speaker 1: here too long. Welcome back to the big show, Mr.
- 49:14Speaker 3: Moroska.
- 49:15Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. We're just getting started, Mr. Moroska. Cliff and
- 49:19Speaker 1: I went at it like we always do. You'll have
- 49:21Speaker 1: a chance to go at it with me later. I
- 49:23Speaker 1: enjoy this kind of dialogue, confrontational stuff, and I got
- 49:28Speaker 1: the right guy on. I can draw it out of
- 49:30Speaker 1: this ranting monster all day long who does a pretty
- 49:33Speaker 1: good job, though. His rants are the classic. They no
- 49:36Speaker 1: longer classify for shorts. But they classify for something, you know,
- 49:40Speaker 1: like putting him in other places when we need somebody
- 49:42Speaker 1: to have their eyes coming out of their head. All right, well,
- 49:45Speaker 1: with that said, let's talk a little bit of baseball.
- 49:47Speaker 1: We're going to go to baseball history, July 13, 2001.
- 49:50Speaker 1: Mike Piazza hits his 300th home run. All right, let's
- 49:55Speaker 1: talk about the accomplishment, Sean. Mike Piazza is definitely a guy,
- 49:58Speaker 1: to me, is, you know, worthy of all the accolades.
- 50:04Speaker 1: I think he's in the Baseball Hall of Fame, isn't he?
- 50:07Speaker 2: If he isn't, he should be. I know a lot
- 50:10Speaker 2: of friends back in Southern California that regretted the day
- 50:16Speaker 2: that the Dodgers traded him. You know, they thought it was,
- 50:19Speaker 2: you know, it was not believable. They thought it was,
- 50:26Speaker 2: you know, to borrow a phrase, fake news. And all
- 50:29Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know, he's gone, he's out of
- 50:32Speaker 2: LA and, you know, Lasorda was, I believe, his uncle,
- 50:36Speaker 2: and they still let him go. Did he go wind up?
- 50:41Speaker 2: He actually loved him when he was playing with the Mets.
- 50:45Speaker 2: I don't think many people remember that he played with
- 50:47Speaker 2: the Marlins for a cup of coffee, but especially that
- 50:53Speaker 2: 2001 playoffs, he was just a star. For no other
- 50:58Speaker 2: reason other than that playoff, he should be in the
- 51:02Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.
- 51:04Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair enough. Okay, Jason.
- 51:06Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had a great swing, 300-plus home runs, you know,
- 51:13Speaker 3: and he hit it off of Derek Lowe, Boston Red Sox.
- 51:19Speaker 3: Can't say enough about him. Just a great player, great professional,
- 51:25Speaker 3: made the World Series, I think, with the Yankees and
- 51:28Speaker 3: the Mets in 2000. You know, can't say enough. It
- 51:33Speaker 3: just seemed like After he left the Dodgers, kind of
- 51:36Speaker 3: the injuries kind of caught up to him there. So
- 51:39Speaker 3: he wasn't able to kind of have a lasting career,
- 51:42Speaker 3: but still definitely a great player. Can't say enough about him. Okay.
- 51:50Speaker 10: Cliff?
- 51:51Speaker 4: He was an absolute joy to watch. He was just–
- 51:56Speaker 4: being a Mets fan, we don't have that many great catchers. Yeah,
- 51:59Speaker 4: we just had Gary Carter. And that was great, but
- 52:03Speaker 4: we have a long line. Who's this guy? I talked
- 52:07Speaker 4: about Charlie O'Brien before Rob. So you'd be happy. I
- 52:10Speaker 4: think that Mackie Sasser, all these other guys, he was
- 52:15Speaker 4: just such, it was such a pleasure to watch him play.
- 52:19Speaker 4: And I was like, when I watched him with the Dodgers,
- 52:23Speaker 4: it was just amazing. It was amazing to watch how
- 52:25Speaker 4: good he could hit and how good he was. And
- 52:28Speaker 4: then he came back. to the meds after yes, the,
- 52:31Speaker 4: with the, when they went to the Marlins for a week,
- 52:33Speaker 4: it was like a week. And then, uh, then they traded, uh,
- 52:37Speaker 4: Preston Wilson as part of a deal to, to get them. And, uh,
- 52:41Speaker 4: that time he was, and I remember when he got there,
- 52:44Speaker 4: it was like, Oh, is it going to sign? And
- 52:46Speaker 4: he did. And I'm like, cause that doesn't usually happen
- 52:49Speaker 4: for the meds. They usually kind of get shafted most
- 52:52Speaker 4: of the time and he didn't. And he was such
- 52:55Speaker 4: a great player for them. And, uh, yeah, he, People
- 52:59Speaker 4: like– people denigrated his defense, but he wasn't that bad
- 53:04Speaker 4: a defensive catcher.
- 53:05Speaker 3: He wasn't.
- 53:07Speaker 4: And he called a solid game. So it's like– I mean,
- 53:11Speaker 4: the way he hit, he was such a good hitter.
- 53:14Speaker 4: He had so much power. And I truly miss him
- 53:17Speaker 4: to this day. I really do. And, yes, he is
- 53:19Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame. It was just– it was
- 53:21Speaker 4: a pleasure knowing he was in that lineup. And it's–
- 53:25Speaker 4: you know, it's– we have our players that we love
- 53:28Speaker 4: and he'll, he'll always be one of those players for me.
- 53:32Speaker 4: I mean, Mike Piazza, just class act all over and
- 53:35Speaker 4: every way. And, uh, I can't say enough good things
- 53:38Speaker 4: about him.
- 53:40Speaker 1: Okay. Well, let me just say this for a while. Okay.
- 53:42Speaker 1: Number one, if you can find a great offensive catcher,
- 53:46Speaker 1: considering the domains of the position and I played the
- 53:49Speaker 1: position so I can, and I was awful. I was
- 53:52Speaker 1: more Jake Rogers and it came to the way I
- 53:55Speaker 1: played the position. I'm not afraid to admit it. Hey,
- 53:58Speaker 1: when you're bad at something, but when you, but if
- 54:01Speaker 1: you can find a good offensive catcher to me, that's huge.
- 54:04Speaker 1: And that's, I think the legacy that Mike Piazza brings on,
- 54:08Speaker 1: of course, you know, the sort of good, but you
- 54:11Speaker 1: can be connected to Tommy all day long, but you
- 54:13Speaker 1: got to perform. And Mikey did exactly that. Okay. Rob,
- 54:16Speaker 1: turn it over to you.
- 54:18Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 54:19Speaker 5: Well, one of my favorite Mets, second Met elected to
- 54:22Speaker 5: the hall of fame. Um, His 300th home run.
- 54:26Speaker 10: I was at that game.
- 54:28Speaker 5: I went to so many games because I did have
- 54:32Speaker 5: a season ticket package. The Mets lost to the Red
- 54:38Speaker 5: Sox 3-1. He hit a solo shot for his 300th.
- 54:42Speaker 1: It was great.
- 54:43Speaker 5: But listen, he was a great Met. Anytime he got
- 54:51Speaker 5: up as a Met, the ball could go out there.
- 54:54Speaker 5: What an offensive power he was. And let's not forget
- 54:58Speaker 5: that he hit the game-winning home run in the first
- 55:02Speaker 5: game back after 9-11, which is one of the biggest
- 55:05Speaker 5: home runs in the history of Major League Baseball.
- 55:09Speaker 1: Great way, Rob, okay, to talk about something that we'll
- 55:14Speaker 1: be talking about later in the show. Great stuff, Mr.
- 55:16Speaker 7: Moraska.
- 55:18Speaker 1: And welcome back, Mr.
- 55:20Speaker 4: Moraska.
- 55:21Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, Eddie, some thoughts about Phoenix.
- 55:24Speaker 6: I mean, he was a great player.
- 55:26Speaker 8: I mean, no doubt. I mean, great catcher, great match.
- 55:29Speaker 8: He was a 12-time All-Star. He was the 93 National
- 55:31Speaker 8: League Rookie of the Year. He was the 96 MLB
- 55:36Speaker 8: All-Star MVP. 2016 was when he was elected to the
- 55:41Speaker 8: Hall of Fame. And actually, just the fun fact about
- 55:45Speaker 8: his power and catchers not being known for hitters, His
- 55:50Speaker 8: 427 home runs are the most ever hit by a
- 55:53Speaker 8: player who played primarily catcher. So, I mean, out of
- 55:58Speaker 8: all the catchers that ever played, there's some great ones.
- 56:00Speaker 8: You know, he was the guy who had power and,
- 56:03Speaker 8: you know, brought it with the 427. I, you know,
- 56:06Speaker 8: I enjoyed watching him play when he was with the
- 56:09Speaker 8: Dodgers and then, you know, towards the end of his
- 56:11Speaker 8: career when he was with the Mets and so on.
- 56:13Speaker 6: So, you know, he was a great player.
- 56:15Speaker 1: Okay, Candy.
- 56:19Speaker 7: Couple of interesting points. He was drafted by the Dodgers
- 56:22Speaker 7: in 88 as a favor from Tom Lasorda to Piazza's father.
- 56:29Speaker 7: He was the last player selected by the Dodgers that
- 56:32Speaker 7: year and was the latest drafted pick signed in his
- 56:37Speaker 7: draft class to play in the major leagues. He initially
- 56:41Speaker 7: was a first baseman. He converted to catcher in the
- 56:45Speaker 7: minor leagues at Lasorda's suggestion of to improve his chances
- 56:50Speaker 7: of being promoted. One of the things that I thought
- 56:55Speaker 7: was interesting when I was reading about him is in
- 57:02Speaker 7: addition to his hitting, and you talked about his hitting,
- 57:06Speaker 7: Piazza's defense has undergone a more positive reassessment in light
- 57:11Speaker 7: of new defense metrics. His pitch framing... In particular, ranks
- 57:17Speaker 7: 7th best among all catchers, going back to the first
- 57:21Speaker 7: data back in 88. Among reported published in 2008 put
- 57:28Speaker 7: him 3rd among all catchers since 1948 in improving the
- 57:33Speaker 7: performance of his pitchers. Mets teammate Tom Glavin called Piazza
- 57:40Speaker 7: a first ballot Hall of Famer certainly the best hitting
- 57:44Speaker 7: catcher of our era, and arguably the best hitting catcher
- 57:48Speaker 7: of all time. He didn't make it to the Hall
- 57:55Speaker 7: of Fame on the first three ballots. It was the
- 57:58Speaker 7: fourth ballot that finally got him in, which.
- 58:02Speaker 1: Is, you know, cool. Either way, he's in. All right,
- 58:05Speaker 1: let's talk about our featured tough of the night. That's
- 58:08Speaker 1: MLB realignment, always timely to talk about, never gets old.
- 58:13Speaker 1: All right, the Tampa Bay Rays got their stadium situation finally,
- 58:18Speaker 1: finally fixed as they head over to Hillsborough County. The
- 58:22Speaker 1: A's are about a year out from getting their new
- 58:25Speaker 1: home in Las Vegas. With that said, what's next?
- 58:31Speaker 7: Expansion.
- 58:32Speaker 1: All I'm going to talk about in this particular segment
- 58:35Speaker 1: is they won an East team and a West team,
- 58:39Speaker 1: and everything is all speculation about the other two, although
- 58:42Speaker 1: I have a feeling nashville and utah are the two
- 58:45Speaker 1: league candidates from what i've heard but i'm just going
- 58:48Speaker 1: to point out some scenarios and we don't have to
- 58:51Speaker 1: drag it on too too long but long enough so
- 58:53Speaker 1: everybody can get their appeal we're going to go to
- 58:55Speaker 1: the national league and here's some anybody say something or
- 59:00Speaker 1: okay okay so and i'll go to the national league
- 59:04Speaker 1: and i'll give you the breakdown of divisions that this
- 59:07Speaker 1: particular source is proposing and the League Midwest, you're looking
- 59:11Speaker 1: at the Cubs, the White Sox, St. Louis, and the Reds.
- 59:14Speaker 1: The National League Midwest, NL Central, you've got the Colorado Rockies,
- 59:20Speaker 1: Kansas City Royals, Texas Rangers, and the Houston Astros. Keep
- 59:24Speaker 1: the Texas boys together as well as the Chicago boys
- 59:27Speaker 1: and the other guys in there. In the National League Southwest,
- 59:30Speaker 1: you've got L.A., Dodgers, along with the Angels, San Diego Padres,
- 59:35Speaker 1: and the Diamondbacks. And in the NL Northwest, you've got Seattle,
- 59:40Speaker 1: the A's, San Francisco, and a team to be determined.
- 59:44Speaker 1: Let's go to the AL Northeast. You've got the Yankees
- 59:48Speaker 1: and the Mets, along with the Red Sox and the Phillies.
- 59:51Speaker 1: That one's pretty interesting. I can imagine how that would work.
- 59:55Speaker 1: The All-Middle Atlantic. You have the Orioles and the Nationals,
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: along with Pittsburgh and Cleveland, which makes sense because they're
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: pretty close to each other. And AL, Great Lakes. I
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: like the Great Lakes. You have the Twins, the Tigers,
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: and the Brewers in that division. And the Blue Jays.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: And the Blue Jays. I'm getting to it. Okay. And
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: then the AL Southeast, you have the Braves, the Marlins,
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: the Rays, and the team to be determined. My gut
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: feeling is it would be Nashville. And then for the Northwest,
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: it would probably be Utah if I were betting. Okay.
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: I've broken these down here. John, what are your thoughts
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: of them?
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: Well, I think you're right with the people. And I
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: was very surprised, but Utah, I think, you know, they've got, uh,
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: at least a stadium framework, I believe, uh, owner with funding, uh,
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: Nashville doesn't have any of those things yet, but Nashville
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: is a growing market. They've got hockey. They've got football.
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: They've got major college football. The one thing they don't
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: have is basketball, but I don't know how well the
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: Grizzlies are doing in Memphis. I think they play a
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: game or two in Nashville. And what can I say?
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: You know, when Utah took on the Mammoth, That really
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: put them on the map. And, you know, whether, you know,
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: Utah grabs another major sport or not, you know, I
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: think that's going to be looking to see because you've
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: got a lot of my friends from California have made
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: it to Utah somehow, some way. I don't know what's
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: out there. I haven't been there myself. But, you know,
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: something's happening there.
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: See, I've been to Utah. They covered a few Utah
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: Jazz games at the old Salt Palace. I truly believe
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: that Utah could be a really good market, plus a
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: good rivalry for the Rockies should that take place. And
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: I think that's what a lot of people are figuring.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: If that becomes the case, then I think that this
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: divisional realignment could get altered just a little bit. But
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: that's what I think. We don't know yet. And again,
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: these are just divisional. But National will get it done.
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: I think they know where they want to put the stadium.
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: They're just waiting for a commitment from Major League Baseball.
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: And if they don't, there's plenty of other candidates as well.
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: We'll go ahead and turn it over to Jason. Yeah,
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: good point, Scott.
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: I was going to say, you know, I'm not too
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: far from Nashville myself. I don't know if they're planning
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: on doing something with the Nissan Stadium, but they'll probably
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: build it closer there. It's it's a upcoming say I
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: can't speak for Utah. I haven't visited there even myself.
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: So I don't know what the population kind of is,
- 1:03:01Speaker 3: but I would think I even heard Dave Dombrowski was
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: kind of in the mix on those on bringing the
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: team here in Nashville. But as far as like, like
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: this is going to be good for the game. Like,
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: You brought up some good points about these divisions, Scott.
- 1:03:23Speaker 3: I had just a little differ on the Yahoo. I
- 1:03:25Speaker 3: even seen the Reds, Guardians, White Sox, Tigers. So the Reds,
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: also the Pirates with the Yankees, Red.
- 1:03:34Speaker 6: Sox, and Blue Jays.
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: That's crazy.
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: So I think what this is, this is a travel
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: situation that they're trying to eliminate.
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: They don't want to travel all over like the NHL did.
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: They brought the Eastern Western.
- 1:03:53Speaker 10: I don't know.
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: I think it's kind of crazy that you would take
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: the AL and the NL away because we're so used
- 1:04:00Speaker 3: to that, that they want to change it to the NBA, NFL,
- 1:04:04Speaker 3: Eastern Western Conference. I don't know.
- 1:04:07Speaker 8: I don't know.
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: It'd be interesting. I, it'll be hard to get used to,
- 1:04:11Speaker 3: especially when you're dealing with, you know, AL, I know that's,
- 1:04:14Speaker 3: that's kind of what the game is, you know, major
- 1:04:16Speaker 3: league baseball for 125 years. So, um, I think they're
- 1:04:22Speaker 3: just trying to do it for travel, like, like Detroit
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: moving to Eastern, you know, Eastern conference from the Western
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: conference and they could, you know, playoff games were late
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: at night and, and, you know, the travel getting out
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: late early morning. So I think that's what they're trying
- 1:04:39Speaker 3: to do. And, I mean, more power to him. I mean,
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: these are interesting divisions, moving the four-team division, you know,
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: per 32 teams. If he goes that far, Manfred, we'll see.
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: Yeah, see, Jason, you said one key word, which I agree,
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: and I'll whip it around the horn, a lot more
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: to get to. It is about travel. They're trying to
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: shorten the division rivals. That's why I think the alignment's
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: set up. All right, Cliff, what are your thoughts about this?
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: I know you always love to talk about this. I
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: don't think you and I will have a major debate
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: on this one. It's just about what you think about
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: these potential divisions, Cliff, and that's the nature of this topic,
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: all right?
- 1:05:19Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with Nashville or Utah getting
- 1:05:21Speaker 4: a team. That's fine. I don't want to gut the system.
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: I don't want to gut the alignment. The baseball is different.
- 1:05:30Speaker 4: There's so much history. It's so deep. I don't want
- 1:05:33Speaker 4: to hear, oh, they're all doing DH. I'm okay with
- 1:05:36Speaker 4: a couple little flip here and there, like Colorado. Going
- 1:05:41Speaker 4: into like a Midwest division with like Kansas City, Houston,
- 1:05:45Speaker 4: and Texas. Because Colorado doesn't have any history. Same thing
- 1:05:49Speaker 4: with Tampa. I'd be okay with that. Little things here
- 1:05:51Speaker 4: and there. I don't want this big, massive gutting. It's ridiculous.
- 1:05:57Speaker 4: It's baseball. It's special. We're not the NFL. We're not hockey.
- 1:06:02Speaker 4: And I love hockey. And I like these other sports.
- 1:06:05Speaker 4: Baseball's different. Don't touch it. This is different. It's been
- 1:06:09Speaker 4: like this. I... Travel, whatever. I don't care about the travel.
- 1:06:13Speaker 4: There's things that are bigger. Once again, it comes down
- 1:06:16Speaker 4: to foundation, substance, respect something. I'm not an old guy. Well,
- 1:06:22Speaker 4: I'm older than I was, but a grumpy old man
- 1:06:24Speaker 4: yelling about his lawn, get off my lawn kind of thing.
- 1:06:28Speaker 4: Let's have some respect for something like that. I'm okay
- 1:06:31Speaker 4: with the expansion. I'm okay with having a couple things.
- 1:06:34Speaker 4: And move a little thing here and there. Preserve the
- 1:06:37Speaker 4: National American League and then also... Once you have those
- 1:06:41Speaker 4: couple extra teams, you can put the interleague back in
- 1:06:46Speaker 4: from Memorial Day into July. The reason they can't do
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: it now is because there's 30 teams.
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: Right, exactly.
- 1:06:53Speaker 4: And you can make it special again. I don't want
- 1:06:58Speaker 4: all this realignment like that. I mean, I have an
- 1:07:00Speaker 4: entire plan. I can show you sometime. But, yeah, that's
- 1:07:04Speaker 4: too far.
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: As far as national stadium-wise, I can see the Montreal
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: Expos becoming a dark horse if Nashville does not come
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: up with a team because they can either use Olympic
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: Stadium or plan to build another one with the intent
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: of what they can do at Olympic Stadium. That's just
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: a thought, and that's all it is. Rob, go ahead.
- 1:07:27Speaker 10: Yeah, Olympic Stadium is a dump.
- 1:07:30Speaker 5: There's no way they could play Major League Baseball there
- 1:07:33Speaker 5: ever again.
- 1:07:34Speaker 10: That's not going to happen.
- 1:07:35Speaker 7: Right.
- 1:07:36Speaker 5: Even though people in Montreal would love it to happen,
- 1:07:39Speaker 5: but it's just not going to happen. I see Salt
- 1:07:42Speaker 5: Lake City and either Nashville or Raleigh getting the team,
- 1:07:46Speaker 5: which I don't care. Expand two more teams. But I'm
- 1:07:51Speaker 5: with Cliff. I do not want to see this other
- 1:07:54Speaker 5: stupid realignment. And I know it's because of the travel,
- 1:07:57Speaker 5: but I do not want to see the vision where
- 1:08:00Speaker 5: it's the Mets, Yankees, Phillies, and Red Sox.
- 1:08:02Speaker 10: Four teams.
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
- 1:08:04Speaker 5: And That would be the American League East. I don't
- 1:08:08Speaker 5: want to see that. I don't want the Mets to
- 1:08:10Speaker 5: go to American League.
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: I hate that stuff.
- 1:08:13Speaker 10: I do not. I don't agree with that.
- 1:08:16Speaker 5: I don't want to see divisions with four teams in them.
- 1:08:19Speaker 10: It's ridiculous.
- 1:08:20Speaker 5: Now we're getting into NBA and NHL territory with that stuff.
- 1:08:27Speaker 5: And it's been headed towards that with the playoffs and
- 1:08:31Speaker 5: the expansion of the playoffs. Pretty soon, regular season's not
- 1:08:34Speaker 5: going to mean anything. They're shooting for that. It's all
- 1:08:38Speaker 5: about the money and the travel, saving time and less travel.
- 1:08:43Speaker 5: I do not want to see that expand.
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: You want to expand?
- 1:08:46Speaker 5: But also, what happens when you expand? The talent gets
- 1:08:50Speaker 5: watered down, right? That's what happens when you screen it.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: And that's what's going to happen.
- 1:08:56Speaker 5: Guys who should be in AAA are now in the
- 1:08:59Speaker 5: major leagues.
- 1:09:00Speaker 10: It's watered down. That's what happens, but it's all about
- 1:09:02Speaker 10: the money.
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. Montreal Olympic Stadium, not really a wise move.
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: And the reports I saw, they're ranked sixth. They're not
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: one of the top choices. But for many years, Charlotte
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: was talked about I think Raleigh gets the team way
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: ahead of Charlotte. I think that there is some ideas
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: behind it. I won't talk about it all night. We
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: can talk about this all day long. But I can
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: see Raleigh way ahead of Charlotte. Go ahead, Cliff.
- 1:09:32Speaker 4: You mean Ed?
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: No, no, me.
- 1:09:34Speaker 8: He meant me.
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Ed.
- 1:09:36Speaker 3: No, it's all good.
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: It's all right, Cliff.
- 1:09:39Speaker 8: No, no. Yeah, the expansion to Salt Lake or Nashville,
- 1:09:46Speaker 8: even Raleigh, I think would be great. But I have
- 1:09:49Speaker 8: to stand with Rob and Cliff on this. Like I said,
- 1:09:53Speaker 8: I come from a baseball family, baseball traditionalists.
- 1:09:58Speaker 6: It's not broken.
- 1:10:00Speaker 8: It doesn't need to be fixed. Maybe, like Cliff was saying,
- 1:10:03Speaker 8: a couple tweaks here and there. Maybe you can make
- 1:10:07Speaker 8: it a little bit better. But it's worked for all
- 1:10:11Speaker 8: these years.
- 1:10:13Speaker 6: Let's keep it intact.
- 1:10:14Speaker 8: It's, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, mom,
- 1:10:19Speaker 8: apple pie and baseball is what makes America great. Right.
- 1:10:22Speaker 8: And so let's, let's not mess something up that we
- 1:10:26Speaker 8: got going good.
- 1:10:31Speaker 9: Okay.
- 1:10:31Speaker 7: Where do I start? Let's start with Nashville. Is it
- 1:10:35Speaker 7: a place for an expansion team? There's a minor league
- 1:10:38Speaker 7: team right there. And they're only sixth in attendance. So
- 1:10:43Speaker 7: they're not first in attendance. They're not knocking it out
- 1:10:46Speaker 7: of the park. They're averaging roughly 6,500. Roughly, they're saying
- 1:10:50Speaker 7: between 6,479 to 6,828 in a stadium that holds seating-wise 8,500,
- 1:10:54Speaker 7: but they can go to 10,000 standing rooms. But they're
- 1:11:09Speaker 7: ranked sixth overall across all of minor league baseball. With
- 1:11:14Speaker 7: that being said, the Nashville Sounds did celebrate a franchise,
- 1:11:20Speaker 7: celebrated the 20th millionth fan, 20 million fans in team
- 1:11:25Speaker 7: history during a home series in late May of 2026.
- 1:11:29Speaker 7: So they've obviously been there for a long time. Do
- 1:11:33Speaker 7: I think they deserve a team award? I don't know
- 1:11:36Speaker 7: if you're talking about they're only sixth in minor league
- 1:11:39Speaker 7: baseball attendance-wise, if that somehow means they should get an
- 1:11:47Speaker 7: MLB team. It does happen to be a minor league
- 1:11:51Speaker 7: team for the Brewers. I will admit that, too. As
- 1:11:55Speaker 7: far as Utah goes, I'm okay with that. I can
- 1:12:00Speaker 7: speak from a point of I remember my Brewers back
- 1:12:07Speaker 7: in the American League. And when they switched to the
- 1:12:09Speaker 7: National League, I thought that was the oddest, weirdest thing.
- 1:12:14Speaker 7: The rivalries that they had, they no longer could have
- 1:12:17Speaker 7: because you weren't playing them at the same. So do
- 1:12:20Speaker 7: I want to see this alignment? Absolutely not.
- 1:12:24Speaker 6: No.
- 1:12:25Speaker 7: I am more of a purist. I don't like that.
- 1:12:29Speaker 7: The other weird thing, I think, is why would you
- 1:12:32Speaker 7: call the divisions different things depending on if you're in
- 1:12:35Speaker 7: the National League or the American League? Like, either you're
- 1:12:37Speaker 7: in the American League West Division or you're in the
- 1:12:39Speaker 7: National League West Division. Not the Great Lakes. I mean,
- 1:12:42Speaker 7: Great Lakes is a nice name, but, like, I just
- 1:12:45Speaker 7: don't get that either. But four teams in a– no,
- 1:12:49Speaker 7: I don't like that at all. Am I up for expansion? Sure,
- 1:12:55Speaker 7: we want to grow the business. We want to grow
- 1:12:57Speaker 7: the brand. I can see that. Do I think Nashville
- 1:13:03Speaker 7: and Utah are the best places? I'm not sure about that.
- 1:13:06Speaker 7: I'm not completely sold yet on those.
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: Okay. Well, you know what MLB will do? What they
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: have to do is an exhaustive search to alleviate any
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: doubt before they go out there and make that move.
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: All right. Let's talk about a quick NFL note. Giants
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: signed Najee Harris. Do you think that's a good move
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: for them, John?
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: Uh, The Giants probably need all the help they can get.
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: I don't know what he's going to play, but the
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: Giants need talent.
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:13:40Speaker 7: Jason?
- 1:13:41Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a good move.
- 1:13:43Speaker 3: They signed him one year, $ 1. 215 million on that, $ 1, 215, 000. Look,
- 1:13:51Speaker 3: he's going to probably fight for carries with Tyrone Tracy,
- 1:13:55Speaker 3: Devin Singletary. He's coming back from ACL, though, so we'll see.
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: It's not too much of a risk to Giants. I
- 1:14:04Speaker 3: think he's going to get the ball. I wouldn't see
- 1:14:06Speaker 3: why he wouldn't get the ball. They don't have anybody else,
- 1:14:10Speaker 3: and they're going to much say, well.
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: Terry, give me a break.
- 1:14:14Speaker 3: He should be in there, and he'll help Scadaboo if
- 1:14:17Speaker 3: he gets hurt. It'll be a good one-two punch for them.
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: That'd be good.
- 1:14:22Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: Don't beat up on my man, Devin Singletary. He's one
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: of the best things that ever happened at Florida Atlantic University. Okay.
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: That's okay. He did good in Buffalo, too.
- 1:14:33Speaker 3: He was good there.
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: That's okay. You made your point. You stated it. Okay,
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: go ahead, Cliff.
- 1:14:38Speaker 4: I'm a Giants fan. I know Najee Harris very, very well.
- 1:14:44Speaker 4: Went from his Pittsburgh days, and he went to San
- 1:14:48Speaker 4: Diego to the Chargers. He went to the Chargers after that.
- 1:14:52Speaker 4: Something's wrong with Scottie Boat. That's why they signed him.
- 1:14:56Speaker 4: He got hurt. He's coming back. I don't have the inside,
- 1:15:01Speaker 4: but they don't do something like that and sign him
- 1:15:04Speaker 4: and have four running backs unless something's wrong. Something's wrong.
- 1:15:09Speaker 4: That's why they brought him in. At the very least,
- 1:15:13Speaker 4: I'm not saying necessarily take the job over, but at
- 1:15:15Speaker 4: least soften the workload. Maybe soften the workload for Cam
- 1:15:19Speaker 4: Scatterboo because he got hurt. Remember, neighbors got hurt last year.
- 1:15:24Speaker 4: I mean, it's– when they signed– I like Najee Harris.
- 1:15:29Speaker 4: I've always liked him. It's just something's wrong. They wouldn't
- 1:15:33Speaker 4: have signed him if something wasn't– if Cam's legs were
- 1:15:37Speaker 4: good and he was all systems go, I don't think
- 1:15:40Speaker 4: they would have signed him. And it didn't help he
- 1:15:44Speaker 4: did that silly little flip and then he fell on
- 1:15:49Speaker 4: his butt. But, yeah, something– I like him. I don't
- 1:15:53Speaker 4: know how they're going to do the four. When he
- 1:15:56Speaker 4: first did it, I thought maybe Tyron Tracy was going
- 1:16:00Speaker 4: to go, and he didn't. So I don't know how
- 1:16:03Speaker 4: they're going to do the four. I know Singletary stays
- 1:16:06Speaker 4: there because he has special– he does special team stuff sometimes.
- 1:16:10Speaker 4: I think that's the only thing keeping him there. And remember,
- 1:16:14Speaker 4: he's a Dable thing. He came with Dable, and Dable's gone. So,
- 1:16:20Speaker 4: I don't know. We'll see how it's going to go.
- 1:16:23Speaker 4: I think they're going to be splitting some time there
- 1:16:26Speaker 4: and some carries.
- 1:16:28Speaker 1: Okay. Go ahead, Rob. Yeah, I agree with Cliff.
- 1:16:32Speaker 10: There's a reason why they did it. I think because
- 1:16:35Speaker 10: of injury. But the price is right, right? So, I mean,
- 1:16:39Speaker 10: why not? It's, you know, a little over a million. So, they,
- 1:16:43Speaker 10: you know, they have to do something. The Giants, of course.
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: The Giants.
- 1:16:50Speaker 10: The past couple of seasons, just horrible. Cliff, I know
- 1:16:53Speaker 10: you've been suffering.
- 1:16:55Speaker 4: They're going to win five or six games this year,
- 1:16:57Speaker 4: which is remarkably better than last year. Maybe seven. I
- 1:17:03Speaker 4: think I'm a wide-eyed optimist. I see seven.
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: Maybe.
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: Maybe.
- 1:17:13Speaker 8: I'm just hoping my commanders finish above them. I'm a
- 1:17:17Speaker 8: little bit concerned. But no, I think that No, the
- 1:17:20Speaker 8: price is right. I think Harbaugh is trying to figure
- 1:17:23Speaker 8: out who's going to.
- 1:17:24Speaker 6: Fit into his system as they're moving forward. There's probably
- 1:17:28Speaker 6: no camps.
- 1:17:30Speaker 8: Scatterboo destroyed his leg, and it'll be interesting to see
- 1:17:35Speaker 8: how much load he's able to carry this season. And,
- 1:17:41Speaker 8: you know, for the prices, right, for a guy who
- 1:17:44Speaker 8: was a first-round draft pick, has had 1,000-yard rushing seasons
- 1:17:49Speaker 8: so far, Why not take a shot at them and
- 1:17:52Speaker 8: put them in there and, if anything, make some competition
- 1:17:54Speaker 8: for the ball, you know? Get in there and, you know,
- 1:17:58Speaker 8: that's how you produce winners.
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: Thanks, Andy.
- 1:18:02Speaker 7: Let's face it, Harbaugh has seen him repeatedly against him.
- 1:18:07Speaker 7: He's had to try and defend against him. But then
- 1:18:10Speaker 7: his brother also had him last year.
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: Now.
- 1:18:13Speaker 7: Harris is coming off a torn Achilles last year in
- 1:18:17Speaker 7: week three. So it'll be interesting how well he does
- 1:18:22Speaker 7: coming back. Harbaugh said he's an experienced back. Anybody that's
- 1:18:28Speaker 7: watched him play knows what type of back he is.
- 1:18:30Speaker 7: He's a downhill runner, physical runner. I've played against him
- 1:18:35Speaker 7: a lot. I have a good feel for who he
- 1:18:38Speaker 7: is as a player. Everybody that's been around him, my brother...
- 1:18:43Speaker 7: Greg Roman, former Mike Tomlin. Love him as a teammate.
- 1:18:49Speaker 7: So excited. for the possibilities. So, hey, low risk, you know,
- 1:18:55Speaker 7: could be high reward. You just never know.
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: Well, when you have Jim Harbaugh and John Harbaugh changing
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: information on players, not wrong with that either. But, yes,
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: high risk, low risk, low reward. I mean, low risk,
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: high reward. I totally agree.
- 1:19:10Speaker 10: All right.
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: Anybody want to talk about fighting? Because I'll tell you,
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: the NHL, I'm going to go for the most penalty
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: minutes in a single season. This is absolutely unbelievable when
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: you think about it. I had to give Cliff a
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: little hockey phone here. And John's pretty good at it, too.
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: But first of all, you have Dave Schultz with the
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: Broad Street Bullies at 472. Back in 74, 75, you
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: have Paul Baxter, 409. He played for the Penguins from
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: 81 and 81, 82. That's when the season was. You
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: have Mike Peluso, 408, with the Chicago Blackhawks, 91, 92 season.
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: Dave Taylor, 358, 1980 and 81 with L.A., the Kings.
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: Tiger Williams, boy, he was a scrapper if I ever
- 1:19:49Speaker 1: saw one. He's obviously, I believe, me in the Hall
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: of Fame back in, oh, Hartford, rather. Okay.
- 1:20:10Speaker 8: 1986, 87.
- 1:20:10Speaker 1: Yeah, once upon a time there was a team in Hartford.
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: Chris Nyland, 358 for the Montreal Canadiens in 84, 85.
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: Basil McRae, 351 from 89 to 90 in Minnesota. And
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: Ty Tomey with Toronto, 365, 97, 98. Okay. John, what
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: are your thoughts about this list?
- 1:20:32Speaker 2: I'm surprised you didn't have Tom Wilson in there.
- 1:20:35Speaker 8: I was going to say the same thing.
- 1:20:38Speaker 2: However, I have to throw that in because that's my
- 1:20:41Speaker 2: wife's favorite player. She's already got her jersey dusted off
- 1:20:45Speaker 2: and washed and cleaned and ready to go for opening night. And,
- 1:20:50Speaker 2: you know, we'll be there at Capital One. So I'm
- 1:20:55Speaker 2: looking forward to the hockey season. Two other names, and
- 1:20:58Speaker 2: it's probably because they were brothers. Bob and Barkley Plager
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: of the Blues, you know, part of the original Blues. Oh,
- 1:21:07Speaker 2: my God. Those two could scrap.
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's too bad. Brian Bugsy Watson is
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: a guy who used to love watching as a Red Wing.
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: But Dave Schultz, by all means, they get a record.
- 1:21:23Speaker 2: Battleship Kill Penguins.
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's true, too. Great points. Okay, Jason.
- 1:21:31Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good statement there, John. I'll tell you,
- 1:21:36Speaker 3: when I read this, the Schultz guy, Dave the Hammer Schultz,
- 1:21:43Speaker 3: he averaged nearly six minutes of penalty minutes a game,
- 1:21:47Speaker 3: so five-minute major every game that he's in there, so
- 1:21:52Speaker 3: part of the Broad Street Bullies before my time, but
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: I just love the history of it. My favorite was
- 1:22:00Speaker 3: Joe Koser and Bob Probert. They were just, they, my favorite,
- 1:22:06Speaker 3: I mean, Bob Probert was, I was fortunate to met
- 1:22:09Speaker 3: him when I was a young kid. And that's kind
- 1:22:12Speaker 3: of what we're, you know, what we're about growing up
- 1:22:14Speaker 3: for in Detroit. So this is always a fun stat.
- 1:22:20Speaker 3: I always like playing the video games. They need to
- 1:22:22Speaker 3: fight and stuff. So the penalty minutes, this is definitely cool. Oh,
- 1:22:28Speaker 3: Tiger Williams. He had nearly 4,000 penalty minutes. That's the
- 1:22:34Speaker 3: all-time career most in NHL history.
- 1:22:41Speaker 1: Cliff?
- 1:22:43Speaker 4: I love the game. It's a bygone era. You don't
- 1:22:47Speaker 4: see that anymore. It's a much more finesse game. They
- 1:22:50Speaker 4: don't put up with that stuff anymore. You're not going
- 1:22:54Speaker 4: to get 400 penalty minutes from anyone anymore. To get
- 1:22:59Speaker 4: that much, it's like... It's like, is he even playing? Really,
- 1:23:03Speaker 4: he's on the ice. How long are you on the
- 1:23:07Speaker 4: ice before you penalize someone? It's kind of crazy, yeah.
- 1:23:11Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I remember those. I mean, Gino Ogic,
- 1:23:15Speaker 4: Donald Brashear, all those guys just going at it. Yeah,
- 1:23:19Speaker 4: we're not going to see that again. I mean, Tom Wilson,
- 1:23:22Speaker 4: he can do other things. There's always been guys like
- 1:23:24Speaker 4: that that can fight and mix it up, but they
- 1:23:28Speaker 4: have some scoring touch. A lot of those guys didn't
- 1:23:30Speaker 4: have much scoring touch. Probert had a little bit at times,
- 1:23:34Speaker 4: but they were there to fight. And I still like
- 1:23:38Speaker 4: watching the fights. People are like, oh, why did they fight?
- 1:23:42Speaker 4: There's a reason for it. But yeah, it's never going
- 1:23:45Speaker 4: to be like it was before. I mean, it is
- 1:23:49Speaker 4: a bygone era and I do miss it a little bit,
- 1:23:51Speaker 4: but I still appreciate the game too. But yeah, those
- 1:23:54Speaker 4: guys are For whatever reason, there's a special place in
- 1:23:59Speaker 4: your heart. I mean, I still like Mick Vokoda. For
- 1:24:03Speaker 4: the Highlanders, talentless, couldn't do anything, but he could fight.
- 1:24:08Speaker 4: And when he was protecting someone, he mixed it up.
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: Okay, Rob.
- 1:24:17Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember as a kid watching, you know, being
- 1:24:20Speaker 5: a Rangers fan, watching the Flyers and the Rangers.
- 1:24:24Speaker 10: And seeing Schultz all the time.
- 1:24:27Speaker 5: In fact, that one incident in the playoffs in 74
- 1:24:32Speaker 5: where he beat the crap out of Dale Rolfe. And
- 1:24:38Speaker 5: the Rangers just, you know, they didn't even go out
- 1:24:40Speaker 5: there and help their teammate. It was crazy. And that
- 1:24:45Speaker 5: was in a game seven also. And that eliminated the
- 1:24:49Speaker 5: Rangers and the Flyers overall. went on to win their
- 1:24:53Speaker 5: first Stanley Cup that year. So that's what I remember
- 1:24:55Speaker 5: about Schultz the most. That guy was nuts. He just
- 1:24:59Speaker 5: fought and fought and fought. And he won two Stanley
- 1:25:02Speaker 5: Cups with them.
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: Last time the Flyers had sniffed a cup was back
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: in the Broad Street Boys area. And I'll never forget
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: the Conflict of Ice episodes against the Russians. That was
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: even crazier. That's one time you had to be rooting
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: for the Philadelphia Flyers. Every American was a Flyer fan
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: during that time period. Okay, Eddie.
- 1:25:23Speaker 8: Oh, well, I remember the Broad Street Bullies very well.
- 1:25:26Speaker 8: My family roots are in Philadelphia. My dad relocated us
- 1:25:32Speaker 8: down here when I was really young, but we spent
- 1:25:34Speaker 8: a lot of time going back up there. So I
- 1:25:36Speaker 8: remember watching Dave Schultz a lot and just the Broad
- 1:25:40Speaker 8: Street Bullies.
- 1:25:40Speaker 6: Their whole mentality was about.
- 1:25:44Speaker 8: Making it tough, fighting and stuff like that, hence the
- 1:25:47Speaker 8: name Broad Street Bullies. But, no, Cliff, no, it's a
- 1:25:51Speaker 8: finesse game now. You're not going to see those kind
- 1:25:54Speaker 8: of penalty minutes. Even Tom Wilson, he's a goal scorer.
- 1:25:58Speaker 10: He's a leader.
- 1:25:59Speaker 8: He's the enforcer. You know, it's not as much as
- 1:26:04Speaker 8: you used to see. Fights are more retaliatory now than
- 1:26:08Speaker 8: really anything else and something just coming out of the blue,
- 1:26:11Speaker 8: if you will.
- 1:26:13Speaker 6: But it's a bygone era that, you know, Hockey was
- 1:26:17Speaker 6: different back then.
- 1:26:17Speaker 8: There were no helmets. You know, when you were punching
- 1:26:20Speaker 8: somebody in the head, you were punching them in the head,
- 1:26:23Speaker 8: not in a helmet. You know, the goalies were.
- 1:26:25Speaker 6: Wearing the cheap plastic one.
- 1:26:28Speaker 8: I remember having, you know, those goalie masks that, you know,
- 1:26:31Speaker 8: just kind of slid over your face, you know, trying
- 1:26:34Speaker 8: to catch a puck. You know, hopefully, you know, it
- 1:26:38Speaker 8: was just a different game.
- 1:26:39Speaker 6: Back then, much more violent.
- 1:26:42Speaker 8: And it always happened, as Cliff said as well, you know,
- 1:26:45Speaker 8: Special place in our heart, but the game has moved on,
- 1:26:49Speaker 8: and those numbers will never be broken.
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: Okay, Candy, learn about hockey.
- 1:26:56Speaker 7: Old school hockey is all about fighting. That's why you
- 1:26:59Speaker 7: went to the games. It wasn't to really see the
- 1:27:03Speaker 7: skating on the ice. It was to see the fights
- 1:27:05Speaker 7: that broke out. Everybody would be standing up cheering for
- 1:27:09Speaker 7: their team in the middle of a fight going on.
- 1:27:12Speaker 7: As far as some of the guys, you know, yeah,
- 1:27:15Speaker 7: you guys all talked about Dave Schultz. He had penalty
- 1:27:19Speaker 7: minutes of 472 in one season. That was in 76 games.
- 1:27:23Speaker 7: How about Mike Coluso from the Blackhawks? He had 408 minutes,
- 1:27:29Speaker 7: but that was only in 63 games. So, 12, I mean,
- 1:27:31Speaker 7: 13 games less, but how many minutes.
- 1:27:40Speaker 7: You know, like everybody said, they've changed the game. Every
- 1:27:44Speaker 7: sport has changed their game. And whether you believe it's
- 1:27:48Speaker 7: changed for the better or not, you're not going to
- 1:27:51Speaker 7: see records like those again.
- 1:27:55Speaker 2: One of the crazy things about Dave Schultz was after
- 1:27:59Speaker 2: he retired from the game, he became the commissioner of
- 1:28:03Speaker 2: a minor league, and he actually– tried to put a
- 1:28:07Speaker 2: stop to fighting in his minor league. You know, didn't
- 1:28:11Speaker 2: want it as part of the game anymore. And, you know,
- 1:28:15Speaker 2: kind of amazing how he changed his attitude about that.
- 1:28:19Speaker 3: Wasn't Bernie Perrant the goalie for Philly?
- 1:28:21Speaker 8: Yes.
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: He was.
- 1:28:23Speaker 3: Wasn't he even at 74?
- 1:28:24Speaker 10: Yes.
- 1:28:25Speaker 3: Yes. He was so good. My dad was telling me,
- 1:28:29Speaker 3: he goes, he's a pfft.
- 1:28:31Speaker 2: And Moose DuPont, Andre DuPont.
- 1:28:33Speaker 5: Yep.
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: Bobby Clark was on those teams. Yeah, there were some characters.
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: on that team for sure.
- 1:28:41Speaker 11: Okay.
- 1:28:41Speaker 1: All right, you know what? I'm going to turn this
- 1:28:43Speaker 1: over to Rob, okay, and then everybody else can follow suit.
- 1:28:46Speaker 1: Steve Cohen's casino proposal near Citi Field, one approval. Rob,
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: how important was that for them to get a casino
- 1:28:56Speaker 1: next to Citi Field?
- 1:28:58Speaker 5: Well, it was important for Steve Cohen to, uh, apparently, um, I,
- 1:29:04Speaker 5: I was down there. I was at city field two
- 1:29:06Speaker 5: weeks ago for the city field classic.
- 1:29:09Speaker 10: And, you know, the whole area is changing. All those
- 1:29:12Speaker 10: chop shops.
- 1:29:13Speaker 5: Are being eliminated and you're seeing buildings going up hotels, everything.
- 1:29:18Speaker 10: It's like, it's amazing.
- 1:29:20Speaker 5: The difference, it used to just be Shea stadium and
- 1:29:23Speaker 5: chop shops all over the place.
- 1:29:26Speaker 10: Um, And what a mess that was.
- 1:29:29Speaker 5: Now it's starting to look like it's going to be
- 1:29:31Speaker 5: a pretty, pretty nice complex. But for him, I guess,
- 1:29:35Speaker 5: you know, you go to a Met game, the Mets lose,
- 1:29:39Speaker 5: go to the casino and, you know, have a few
- 1:29:41Speaker 5: drinks and lose some more money.
- 1:29:45Speaker 10: For him, it was very important.
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: And, you know.
- 1:29:49Speaker 5: That's going to, it's going to be, it's going to
- 1:29:51Speaker 5: be a nice, it so far, it looks really good.
- 1:29:53Speaker 5: I was, I was really shocked at how, how much
- 1:29:57Speaker 5: it progressed. So it's going to look pretty good. I
- 1:30:00Speaker 5: think the whole complex there is going to be pretty,
- 1:30:03Speaker 5: pretty cool.
- 1:30:05Speaker 1: Great stuff. So you say they started to break around
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: the casino? The whole area.
- 1:30:11Speaker 5: They're getting rid of a lot of the chop shops
- 1:30:14Speaker 5: are gone and buildings are going up.
- 1:30:18Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: All over the place.
- 1:30:19Speaker 10: It looks great.
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: Anybody else want to give.
- 1:30:26Speaker 8: Any other two cents on this? I'll just real quick, Candy.
- 1:30:30Speaker 8: I think it's real good for areas to have that
- 1:30:34Speaker 8: kind of development because it spurs the economy.
- 1:30:38Speaker 6: It brings in jobs.
- 1:30:39Speaker 8: It does all the positive things, but circling back to
- 1:30:44Speaker 8: our whole gambling conversation we had in the first part
- 1:30:47Speaker 8: of the show, What you can do is you can
- 1:30:50Speaker 8: take the train down to Citi Field. The sportsbook can
- 1:30:54Speaker 8: be right on the first floor of the casino. You
- 1:30:56Speaker 8: can walk into the casino, place your bets, and then
- 1:30:59Speaker 8: go back over, watch the Mets play, and then to
- 1:31:04Speaker 8: Rob's point, and then after the Mets win or lose
- 1:31:06Speaker 8: or whatever, you go back to the casino.
- 1:31:08Speaker 10: Hopefully you won.
- 1:31:10Speaker 8: You get your money from your book, from your bets,
- 1:31:13Speaker 8: and then you go put it into the casino. And
- 1:31:15Speaker 8: Cohen still gets all your money.
- 1:31:19Speaker 6: It's the circle of light.
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: Okay, Candy.
- 1:31:23Speaker 7: So it's $ 8 billion. It's going to be called Metropolitan Park.
- 1:31:27Speaker 7: It's going to feature a hard rock hotel, a live
- 1:31:30Speaker 7: music venue, a food hall, 25 acres of public green
- 1:31:34Speaker 7: space alongside the casino floor. Construction prep has begun with
- 1:31:40Speaker 7: a targeted completion and opening year around 2030. Let's face it,
- 1:31:46Speaker 7: more and more of these.
- 1:31:49Speaker 7: Stadiums are becoming entertainment districts. A lot of them are
- 1:31:55Speaker 7: doing it to bring more tourism dollars to not just
- 1:31:59Speaker 7: when the venue has an event there, but to the
- 1:32:03Speaker 7: whole area. They did it, Lambeau, they did it for
- 1:32:09Speaker 7: the Deer District down in Milwaukee for NBA. A lot
- 1:32:13Speaker 7: of them have done that. To be honest with you,
- 1:32:17Speaker 7: it makes it a safer place around the ballpark. And
- 1:32:21Speaker 7: I'm not saying necessarily just city field, but like some
- 1:32:25Speaker 7: other venues, I could totally see this. I know freedom
- 1:32:28Speaker 7: park down in Miami is where inner Miami plays. And
- 1:32:32Speaker 7: that's going to, that has the same feel. Um, it's
- 1:32:35Speaker 7: not just the one venue. So smart move by some
- 1:32:39Speaker 7: of these, um, teams and owners that are doing that.
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: Okay. Well, you know what can't, what, what, So, according
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: to Source Sports Media Watch, NBC Broadcast Network will carry
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: two or four games per day during MLB Wild Card.
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: All right, well, NBC's back in the baseball business. John,
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: what are your thoughts?
- 1:33:03Speaker 2: Well, I think it's going to be good. You know,
- 1:33:06Speaker 2: if you've got it on, it's going to be on
- 1:33:08Speaker 2: the regular NBC network and not on their streaming app, right? Yeah.
- 1:33:13Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:33:15Speaker 2: I tell you what, that gets so frustrating for the
- 1:33:18Speaker 2: average fan because, you know, you've got to have, you know,
- 1:33:22Speaker 2: five or six different apps in order to, you know,
- 1:33:26Speaker 2: catch all your games. You know, I think, you know,
- 1:33:29Speaker 2: with us, you know, we have our app in D.C.
- 1:33:32Speaker 2: for Monumental Sports for the Capitals. But, you know, we're
- 1:33:36Speaker 2: going to have to watch. They're either going to be
- 1:33:38Speaker 2: on a different carrier, a different streaming, or a different–
- 1:33:44Speaker 2: network for 17 of our games this year, and that's
- 1:33:48Speaker 2: going to be a little frustrating. I guess I'm going
- 1:33:51Speaker 2: to have to go to all those games instead of
- 1:33:53Speaker 2: being able to watch them on TV.
- 1:33:56Speaker 1: Okay, Jason?
- 1:33:59Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just reading on NBCUniversal. They said that
- 1:34:05Speaker 3: because ESPN, they're doing it differently from what ESPN did.
- 1:34:10Speaker 3: So instead of airing the one afternoon game. They're going
- 1:34:14Speaker 3: to air, I think, uh, from September 29th to October 1st. Uh,
- 1:34:22Speaker 3: there's going to be two games per day in the
- 1:34:24Speaker 3: wild card. So, I mean, I don't know if they're
- 1:34:28Speaker 3: going to change from that John from NBC sports network
- 1:34:32Speaker 3: to Peacock. Cause you're going to, I don't know what
- 1:34:35Speaker 3: they're going to do here. You know, like they always
- 1:34:37Speaker 3: like springing up on you like, Oh, Hey, we got
- 1:34:40Speaker 3: to buy this, you know, or, You know, so I
- 1:34:43Speaker 3: like that they're going to have more games during the afternoon.
- 1:34:47Speaker 3: That's cool. It kind of brings back the whole, you know,
- 1:34:52Speaker 3: Ben Scully, Joe, Gary Ola.
- 1:34:56Speaker 10: So I like that.
- 1:34:57Speaker 6: Tony Kubek.
- 1:34:59Speaker 1: Yeah, Tony Kubek.
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: So I like that. I go back in history and
- 1:35:02Speaker 3: I'm watching. So, you know, like that's what baseball is.
- 1:35:08Speaker 3: I love this. So it's a good look. uh, have,
- 1:35:11Speaker 3: get the afternoon games on. I mean, TBS was doing it,
- 1:35:14Speaker 3: you know, so good for wild card, good for baseball
- 1:35:18Speaker 3: on this.
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: Okay. Cliff.
- 1:35:23Speaker 4: Yeah. I, I, I, I liked, uh, as everybody else
- 1:35:27Speaker 4: seems to, I really liked the baseball covers. They really,
- 1:35:30Speaker 4: they really knew how to cover the game. I remember
- 1:35:32Speaker 4: growing up and wait, you're growing up in New York and,
- 1:35:36Speaker 4: if the Yankees or the Mets weren't playing, you wouldn't
- 1:35:39Speaker 4: really see it. We didn't have all the cable and
- 1:35:41Speaker 4: everything we had now. Oh, it's Chicago and St. Louis
- 1:35:45Speaker 4: on Saturday afternoon baseball. And that's the only time you
- 1:35:49Speaker 4: got to see things like that. And now they just
- 1:35:53Speaker 4: have a way of doing good coverage with that. Now
- 1:35:56Speaker 4: from the coverage of what you're talking about, I can
- 1:35:59Speaker 4: definitely see them doing that, maybe going to streaming and stuff.
- 1:36:02Speaker 4: But I think that defeats the whole purpose. People want
- 1:36:06Speaker 4: to see it on that broadcast network for that tradition.
- 1:36:10Speaker 4: That's why they're doing it. They're going for that nostalgia
- 1:36:12Speaker 4: they haven't had in a while. So that's why they're
- 1:36:14Speaker 4: trying to capture and trying to maybe, you know, not
- 1:36:17Speaker 4: only bring the older people such as us who remember it,
- 1:36:21Speaker 4: but maybe like, hey, introduce it to the newer generation
- 1:36:25Speaker 4: to say, hey, this is pretty good. Maybe we can
- 1:36:28Speaker 4: like that there. So I don't know. Because remember, NBC
- 1:36:32Speaker 4: holds a lot of different, the NBC Universal Comcast monstrosity
- 1:36:38Speaker 4: owns like so many different networks that's why they have
- 1:36:42Speaker 4: so many when they have the olympics they have them
- 1:36:43Speaker 4: on like 17 different channels uh all the time so
- 1:36:47Speaker 4: i don't know i i think i think they'll they'll
- 1:36:50Speaker 4: stay to the broadcast network though because it's it's only
- 1:36:53Speaker 4: for the wild cards so they can handle that.
- 1:36:54Speaker 11: Okay rob listen nbc always had great national coverage um
- 1:37:04Speaker 11: especially like the guy said, before we had streaming and, you.
- 1:37:10Speaker 5: Know, you could watch any game, MLB Network, MLB app, whatever.
- 1:37:16Speaker 5: You just had that. You had Scully, Garagiola, and Quebec, right?
- 1:37:22Speaker 5: And they were great. When I was a kid, they
- 1:37:25Speaker 5: were great. The game of the week was great because
- 1:37:27Speaker 5: you didn't get to– unless they were playing– I was
- 1:37:30Speaker 5: a– unless they were playing the Mets, you didn't see
- 1:37:33Speaker 5: those players too often. So when you got to see
- 1:37:36Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Reds or when you got to see the
- 1:37:40Speaker 5: Texas Rangers on, you know, the game of the week,
- 1:37:44Speaker 5: it was great because you got to see all these
- 1:37:46Speaker 5: great players that you only got to see maybe during
- 1:37:49Speaker 5: the all-star game and the world series.
- 1:37:56Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:37:56Speaker 6: I think it's good.
- 1:37:58Speaker 8: You know, I don't think I can add much to
- 1:38:00Speaker 8: what the guy's been saying.
- 1:38:01Speaker 6: I think it's going to be great.
- 1:38:04Speaker 8: NBC's always done a great job with them, and getting
- 1:38:10Speaker 8: us older guys back watching it and then bringing the
- 1:38:15Speaker 8: younger generation along to see the quality, I think it's
- 1:38:20Speaker 8: a great idea.
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: Okay, Candy.
- 1:38:24Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's a great idea. It brings back
- 1:38:28Speaker 7: a familiarity. They've had some great broadcasters. They've done some
- 1:38:33Speaker 7: special events. They've had legendary voices on there. They have
- 1:38:40Speaker 7: star analysis. They've recently retired greats like Clayton Kershaw, Anthony Rizzo,
- 1:38:47Speaker 7: Joey Votto, provide experts. analysis during pregame shows and postgame.
- 1:38:53Speaker 7: I mean, I always think it's interesting to hear some
- 1:38:56Speaker 7: of the players, retired players' perspectives. I think they bring
- 1:39:01Speaker 7: a different perspective to the game. I think it's good.
- 1:39:09Speaker 1: Okay. All right, Candy. You know what? I've always been
- 1:39:12Speaker 1: an NBC person myself. I could go back to Kurt
- 1:39:15Speaker 1: Gowdy if I want to. For all you people out
- 1:39:17Speaker 1: there that know Kurt Gowdy, He was a true legend
- 1:39:21Speaker 1: as well. So, Candy, I met a fisherman up in Iceland.
- 1:39:26Speaker 1: And you know something? I know Rob is probably waiting
- 1:39:28Speaker 1: to see this video because it relates to a lot
- 1:39:30Speaker 1: of what we're talking about. So, go ahead. I had
- 1:39:33Speaker 1: a nice, meaningful conversation. Candy, let everybody see it here worldwide.
- 1:39:38Speaker 7: Okay. Let me kind of tune.
- 1:39:45Speaker 1: This up. Welcome to another edition of the Motor City
- 1:39:48Speaker 1: Mad Miles show. I am joined by a local who
- 1:39:51Speaker 1: has an outfit with 11 sheep on it to keep
- 1:39:54Speaker 1: himself busy. He's got a rope out there that keeps
- 1:39:57Speaker 1: himself out there in time. So anything that goes ahead
- 1:40:00Speaker 1: and happens to him, they just bring him up here.
- 1:40:02Speaker 1: But no, I'm not at Gilligan's Island, but we've got
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: a big old boat behind us that they do fishing on.
- 1:40:07Speaker 1: And when you look at the scenery in the background
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: and all the houses surrounding it, this is a pretty
- 1:40:12Speaker 1: cool place to go out there and do fishing. They
- 1:40:14Speaker 1: have houses around the area as well, so people can
- 1:40:17Speaker 1: live in them. And, you know, when you talk about Iceland,
- 1:40:21Speaker 1: you talk about some of the hidden gems in the world,
- 1:40:24Speaker 1: and this is definitely one of them. I can tell
- 1:40:26Speaker 1: you one thing. When you walk down this trail, it's
- 1:40:28Speaker 1: definitely not one. If you don't have good ankles, you're
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: in trouble. Luckily, I've survived the way down. I'm pretty
- 1:40:33Speaker 1: sure I'll survive the way up. But it's good to
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: meet you, my friend, right? See, he speaks non-sign language anyway,
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter who you really get in here.
- 1:40:44Speaker 1: Johan is his name. The Motor City Mad Mouth is
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: my game. And this is a beautiful boat that they
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: actually catch sharks out of. And they go out there,
- 1:40:51Speaker 1: and I think they take the liver out and put
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: the shark back in there. Oh, my good. This is
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: only fodder for Iceland. Anyways, but meanwhile, just another stop
- 1:41:01Speaker 1: on our tour here. It's been a great tour so far.
- 1:41:03Speaker 1: We looked to uncover a lot of the hidden gems.
- 1:41:06Speaker 1: let alone with guys like him. So we want to
- 1:41:08Speaker 1: thank Johan for joining the Motor City Mad Mouse Show.
- 1:41:11Speaker 1: And he's a native Icelander, doesn't speak our language, but
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: you know what? The universal language out here is sign language.
- 1:41:18Speaker 1: And if you can nod your head, you can shake hands.
- 1:41:20Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing. Johan, thanks for being on the
- 1:41:23Speaker 1: Motor City Mad Mouse Show. We enjoyed you. And you
- 1:41:26Speaker 1: know what? This may not be a motorboat, but it
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: certainly gets you from point A to point B to
- 1:41:30Speaker 1: do what you got to do. So thank you very much.
- 1:41:32Speaker 1: And we will hit the red subscribe button for more videos.
- 1:41:36Speaker 1: Take care, everybody. All right. Well, you know what? Here's
- 1:41:42Speaker 1: to you.
- 1:41:43Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:41:44Speaker 1: I'm wearing my Iceland shirt because I was putting this
- 1:41:47Speaker 1: segment on here. And it's nice to meet a nice
- 1:41:50Speaker 1: fisherman who says very little, but he lets his body
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: language talk about it. What are your thoughts there, John?
- 1:41:57Speaker 2: Oh, what a place. That's on the bucket list.
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: I'm sorry I cost you a few bucks, but I
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: guarantee you'll never regret it. Yeah, the guy was a
- 1:42:11Speaker 1: cool cat. He really was. Okay, Jason.
- 1:42:14Speaker 3: Hey, you did really good there, Scott, introducing everything. Great video,
- 1:42:19Speaker 3: and like I said, it's a great place to be,
- 1:42:24Speaker 3: I'm sure. I definitely would love to go one day.
- 1:42:27Speaker 3: I'm glad you guys got to be there. What a
- 1:42:30Speaker 3: nice view and nice people there, I'm sure. Good stuff.
- 1:42:39Speaker 1: Go ahead, Cliff.
- 1:42:41Speaker 4: I think you should take some fashion advice from Johan.
- 1:42:44Speaker 4: I want to see you wearing that in our next episode.
- 1:42:50Speaker 4: Exactly what Johan was wearing. I think that would suit
- 1:42:53Speaker 4: you very, very well. You should be wearing what Johan,
- 1:42:57Speaker 4: I think you should be wearing what Johan was wearing.
- 1:43:00Speaker 4: Johan's a fashionista and you should take advice from him.
- 1:43:04Speaker 4: I think that would be a great look for you
- 1:43:06Speaker 4: on your next podcast. No, it was, it was a
- 1:43:10Speaker 4: great little interview. That was, that was cute. And I like,
- 1:43:13Speaker 4: that was that guy that, that guy was just along
- 1:43:15Speaker 4: for the ride and he was a good sport about
- 1:43:18Speaker 4: the whole thing.
- 1:43:18Speaker 10: So.
- 1:43:19Speaker 4: That was great. I would love to go to Iceland
- 1:43:21Speaker 4: one day.
- 1:43:22Speaker 2: I really would.
- 1:43:23Speaker 4: My nephew and my niece went there. They go everywhere.
- 1:43:28Speaker 4: They went to Bora Bora. But yeah, that looked great.
- 1:43:32Speaker 4: Good job.
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm not dressed like that guy, but I'll
- 1:43:37Speaker 1: tell you, he was cool.
- 1:43:38Speaker 7: Hey, Ron.
- 1:43:39Speaker 10: Yeah, that was fun. You know what? You should bring
- 1:43:43Speaker 10: him on the show live.
- 1:43:45Speaker 9: Yes.
- 1:43:47Speaker 4: Yeah, Johan looks like a cool cat there.
- 1:43:49Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll do it if you can find his number.
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: That was good.
- 1:43:54Speaker 10: It was good, and I definitely want to go to Iceland, too.
- 1:43:59Speaker 1: I get it cut, Iceland, of everybody that's willing to
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: put their credit card out there for you. Okay, Eddie.
- 1:44:10Speaker 8: He did a great job. I think the next one
- 1:44:13Speaker 8: you need to do a a remote broadcast with Johan
- 1:44:16Speaker 8: rolling you the boat out into the water and showing
- 1:44:20Speaker 8: you how he actually catches those sharks out there in
- 1:44:23Speaker 8: the same garb as Cliff was saying that Johan's wearing.
- 1:44:28Speaker 8: And just you, him, and Candy working the camera now.
- 1:44:32Speaker 8: It looked great. You are the international reporter. You made
- 1:44:39Speaker 8: it work. Language has no barrier. with you, my friend.
- 1:44:44Speaker 8: And now hopefully someday I will get there. Maybe we
- 1:44:48Speaker 8: can have a, maybe we can do a group trip there.
- 1:44:50Speaker 8: Sports exchange, remote in Iceland.
- 1:44:53Speaker 10: Nice.
- 1:44:54Speaker 8: Live from the water, live from the coast.
- 1:44:59Speaker 11: Yeah.
- 1:44:59Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. You need to find a sponsor. Yeah,
- 1:45:04Speaker 1: we're working on that. If you can find one, we'll
- 1:45:06Speaker 1: give you a piece of the action. But yeah, that
- 1:45:09Speaker 1: was surreal. Can you tell everybody what that situation was like?
- 1:45:13Speaker 7: I mean, he speaks Icelandic, so our tour guide was
- 1:45:19Speaker 7: our translator, obviously, through the tour. He talked about how
- 1:45:29Speaker 7: they actually live in some of those huts, how they
- 1:45:31Speaker 7: preserve the fish in some of those huts, how cold
- 1:45:36Speaker 7: it is, and that helps to preserve some of the
- 1:45:39Speaker 7: fish that they can keep there for lengths of time. Um,
- 1:45:45Speaker 7: obviously we couldn't, Scott couldn't correlate or talk really with him,
- 1:45:51Speaker 7: but we had the translator. So that was great. Um,
- 1:45:55Speaker 7: Iceland was beautiful. Um, definitely. It's kind of funny. We
- 1:46:01Speaker 7: were talking about him on the show earlier that Iceland
- 1:46:04Speaker 7: is not ice. It's green. Greenland is ice. I always
- 1:46:09Speaker 7: thought that was kind of backwards. I think everybody thinks
- 1:46:12Speaker 7: that way, but, um, Still, it was a beautiful place
- 1:46:15Speaker 7: to go. I would recommend it being on everybody's bucket list.
- 1:46:20Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about the top 15 countries in the
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: world for 2026. I'll go over the list with everybody,
- 1:46:27Speaker 1: and then we'll proceed from there. Rob and Candy will
- 1:46:30Speaker 1: have a chance to pick you their show, which returns
- 1:46:32Speaker 1: on Monday night. But according to U.S. News & World Report,
- 1:46:36Speaker 1: Switzerland is number one, Denmark is number two, Sweden is
- 1:46:40Speaker 1: number three, Germany is number four, Netherlands... It's number five.
- 1:46:45Speaker 1: Norway's number six. We're going back there again, Candy. What,
- 1:46:48Speaker 1: next year, I think? I think Oslo's on the dock.
- 1:46:51Speaker 1: I think we're heading to Denmark, too, aren't we, Candy?
- 1:46:54Speaker 1: I think that's on the list. Yeah, we're hitting a
- 1:46:57Speaker 1: lot of the Baltic regions is what we're doing. The
- 1:47:00Speaker 1: United Kingdom encompasses four of them, but we got England
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: out of the way. Finland, Luxembourg, Austria, Belgium. Great waffles there, people. France,
- 1:47:10Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower is awesome. Ireland, Australia and Iceland round out
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: the list. Okay, John, that said, which one or two
- 1:47:22Speaker 1: stands out to you other than the fact I got
- 1:47:24Speaker 1: in your pocket for Iceland?
- 1:47:29Speaker 2: Well, none of them. You know, former U.S. Navy sailor here.
- 1:47:35Speaker 2: Australia has got to be on the top. I have
- 1:47:40Speaker 2: taken my wife on a trip from Perth to Sydney.
- 1:47:46Speaker 2: We took the train, you know, my carrier left Perth,
- 1:47:52Speaker 2: took the great Australian bite. We met it in Sydney.
- 1:47:55Speaker 2: And then I had to go back to work. But, oh,
- 1:47:58Speaker 2: you talk about a great place, great scenery, and most
- 1:48:03Speaker 2: of all, great people, uh, down under.
- 1:48:06Speaker 8: Okay.
- 1:48:10Speaker 11: Jason.
- 1:48:10Speaker 3: Scott, you're going to have a private jet. You'll get there.
- 1:48:17Speaker 3: I can totally see you guys jumping on that jet
- 1:48:21Speaker 3: and just getting over to Denmark and Norway and all
- 1:48:25Speaker 3: those great countries. I've never been overseas Canada for me.
- 1:48:30Speaker 3: I mean, so just have a lot of fun and,
- 1:48:34Speaker 3: you know, live life to its.
- 1:48:36Speaker 7: Fullest, sir.
- 1:48:38Speaker 3: That's very commendable. I'm very happy for Candy and Scott.
- 1:48:44Speaker 3: You guys deserve to do that great stuff. Again, for me, Australia, maybe.
- 1:48:50Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:48:55Speaker 3: Good stuff. I'm glad you're able to go there and
- 1:48:57Speaker 3: enjoy that.
- 1:49:00Speaker 1: Cliff?
- 1:49:02Speaker 4: Little known fact, I was born in Europe. I don't
- 1:49:08Speaker 4: remember it. My dad was in the army. I came
- 1:49:13Speaker 4: back at a year and a half old, but I
- 1:49:16Speaker 4: was born in West Germany, Nuremberg. Strange little weird fact also.
- 1:49:25Speaker 4: I was born in the same exact hospital as my
- 1:49:29Speaker 4: grandmother who immigrated to the United States many decades before
- 1:49:34Speaker 4: just by chance when she was born in it. It
- 1:49:37Speaker 4: was a regular hospital after the war. It became a
- 1:49:39Speaker 4: United States Army hospital. And I never met her. She
- 1:49:43Speaker 4: died about a month before I was born. But just
- 1:49:45Speaker 4: a little thing there. I still want to go to Germany.
- 1:49:50Speaker 4: I'm also Italian. I want to go to, like, Florence.
- 1:49:53Speaker 4: And apparently we do an exchange thing, a trip in
- 1:49:58Speaker 4: the summer to Florence now for my department. And I
- 1:50:04Speaker 4: want to go and see where I'm from. Um, I've
- 1:50:07Speaker 4: heard enough nice things about it, but you know, it's, yeah,
- 1:50:11Speaker 4: this is something I want to do. I really can't
- 1:50:13Speaker 4: afford to travel anywhere. So I really want to go
- 1:50:17Speaker 4: and do these things and, um, you know, getting older,
- 1:50:21Speaker 4: it's getting scary. Um, I want to see some things
- 1:50:23Speaker 4: before night falls. So, but it looked great. Everything looks great.
- 1:50:30Speaker 4: It's yeah. Thanks for sharing.
- 1:50:34Speaker 1: Okay, Rob.
- 1:50:36Speaker 10: Um, I love Switzerland. I was lucky to go to Switzerland.
- 1:50:40Speaker 1: Beautiful.
- 1:50:41Speaker 5: So I wouldn't mind returning there again sometime. And Germany,
- 1:50:46Speaker 5: I've been to Germany also on that list. But the
- 1:50:51Speaker 5: one place I definitely want to go to, and John
- 1:50:54Speaker 5: just talked about it, is Australia.
- 1:50:57Speaker 10: That's on my bucket list. Hopefully, within the next couple
- 1:51:01Speaker 10: of years, I will get there.
- 1:51:05Speaker 5: Okay.
- 1:51:06Speaker 2: Eddie?
- 1:51:06Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going to jump on that Australia bandwagon.
- 1:51:10Speaker 8: That is definitely on my bucket list. I've done some
- 1:51:14Speaker 8: traveling to Europe, both Western and Eastern Europe. I just
- 1:51:22Speaker 8: always think traveling outside the U.S. is really good because
- 1:51:27Speaker 8: you get to see the rest of the world and
- 1:51:30Speaker 8: how other people live and how other people.
- 1:51:35Speaker 12: how they do things, you know, and some of the
- 1:51:37Speaker 12: stuff is not much different than we do it here.
- 1:51:39Speaker 12: And some of it is, and it's just, I've always
- 1:51:43Speaker 12: found it fascinating to take in.
- 1:51:45Speaker 6: So I highly recommend traveling.
- 1:51:48Speaker 8: Jason, if you ever get the chance, get on a
- 1:51:51Speaker 8: plane and go somewhere and just kind of embrace the adventure.
- 1:51:56Speaker 3: Right on.
- 1:51:58Speaker 1: Hey Candy.
- 1:52:00Speaker 7: So one of the things I tell people is, When
- 1:52:03Speaker 7: you travel, you create memories, and you can take those
- 1:52:07Speaker 7: memories anyplace. Are you going to remember if you had
- 1:52:11Speaker 7: the latest and greatest computer or the latest and greatest phone?
- 1:52:14Speaker 1: No.
- 1:52:15Speaker 7: So start saving up for traveling and making memories. Scott,
- 1:52:21Speaker 7: next year we are headed to Denmark, Finland, Estonia, Sweden,
- 1:52:26Speaker 7: and then back to Norway, as well as we fly
- 1:52:31Speaker 7: in and out of Southampton, or... out of London. We
- 1:52:35Speaker 7: catch the boat in Southampton. As far as places I
- 1:52:42Speaker 7: want to go to see, of course there's places I
- 1:52:47Speaker 7: want to go see. This will be the second time
- 1:52:51Speaker 7: we've been to Norway. We will not see the northern
- 1:52:55Speaker 7: lights in Norway because we go at the opposite time
- 1:52:57Speaker 7: of year where it's almost all daylight. Do I want
- 1:53:01Speaker 7: to see some Northern Lights at some point? Yes, I'd
- 1:53:03Speaker 7: love to go to Alaska. I haven't been to Alaska.
- 1:53:06Speaker 7: Scott's been to all 50 states. Like, that's kind of
- 1:53:08Speaker 7: a cool thing to say. Hey, I've been to all
- 1:53:11Speaker 7: 50 states, you know. But definitely, if you can, don't wait.
- 1:53:18Speaker 7: Don't think you can't afford. Cut back here and there.
- 1:53:22Speaker 7: And then find cheap ways to do it. Like, there
- 1:53:26Speaker 7: are cheaper ways to go to some of these places.
- 1:53:29Speaker 7: You don't need to, you know, break the bank for them.
- 1:53:32Speaker 7: But those are the memories. Those are the things you're
- 1:53:34Speaker 7: going to remember. You're not going to remember what was
- 1:53:37Speaker 7: the latest and greatest phone or, you know, all these
- 1:53:40Speaker 7: different things. But definitely create memories.
- 1:53:45Speaker 10: All right.
- 1:53:46Speaker 1: A couple of shout-outs. Number one, I want to wish
- 1:53:48Speaker 1: my late uncle Bob Stroll a happy birthday. He would
- 1:53:50Speaker 1: have turned 82 today. Number two, during 9-11, I actually
- 1:53:55Speaker 1: flew from Phoenix to Rather, Fort Lauderdale back to Phoenix,
- 1:54:00Speaker 1: which is where I was living on 9-9. So leading
- 1:54:03Speaker 1: to our next topic, Candy and Rob are going to
- 1:54:06Speaker 1: talk about their show on Monday, but 10 facts you
- 1:54:09Speaker 1: probably didn't know about the Twin Towers. Rest in peace
- 1:54:13Speaker 1: for all those individuals at 9-11. The exterior had hundreds
- 1:54:16Speaker 1: of steel columns giving the towers their unique look. Rob,
- 1:54:20Speaker 1: I'm sure you've visited this place a lot of times
- 1:54:23Speaker 1: or been by it. The towers used sky lobbies where
- 1:54:26Speaker 1: people could change elevators on certain floors. The plaza had
- 1:54:30Speaker 1: a different giant sculpture called the sphere between the towers.
- 1:54:36Speaker 1: There were 99 elevators in each tower, creating a huge
- 1:54:40Speaker 1: vertical transport system. Boy, I can only imagine how dynamic
- 1:54:44Speaker 1: that was. The roof views were famous before public observation
- 1:54:48Speaker 1: decks fully opened. The tower swayed in strong winds and
- 1:54:54Speaker 1: were designed to move slightly safely. An underground mall connected
- 1:55:00Speaker 1: to the complex with shops and walkways. The North Tower
- 1:55:04Speaker 1: had an antenna, boosted television, and radio signals. Parts of
- 1:55:09Speaker 1: the original site are preserved in memorial history today. The
- 1:55:14Speaker 1: windows were narrowed by design as part of the structural system.
- 1:55:19Speaker 1: And of course, what else can we say? John, some
- 1:55:23Speaker 1: thoughts about the Twin Towers as they were. I never
- 1:55:26Speaker 1: had a chance to go to them. I've always been
- 1:55:28Speaker 1: the Empire State Building, but I've driven by them. And also,
- 1:55:34Speaker 1: once again, we pay our deepest respects to all those
- 1:55:37Speaker 1: folks that were tragically killed at 9-11. Go ahead. And
- 1:55:41Speaker 1: we visited the 9-11 site, Candy, when we were there
- 1:55:45Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and it's surreal. Even the
- 1:55:48Speaker 1: development is a must-see. Go ahead, John.
- 1:55:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:55:51Speaker 2: I had been there in August of 2001. I had
- 1:55:55Speaker 2: some family in Jersey visiting them. We went there, we
- 1:55:58Speaker 2: did some shopping. We stopped in the subway stop there. And,
- 1:56:04Speaker 2: you know, that was a very bittersweet day for me
- 1:56:06Speaker 2: because on the 10th, I was in the Pentagon and
- 1:56:13Speaker 2: working on a project with some lads there. And I
- 1:56:17Speaker 2: was working in Southern Maryland at Naval Air Systems Headquarters
- 1:56:21Speaker 2: they came down to visit us so we could look
- 1:56:24Speaker 2: at the mock-up we were working on. And, well, by
- 1:56:31Speaker 2: the time they showed up, the planes hit the World
- 1:56:34Speaker 2: Trade Center in the Pentagon, and they huddled in our
- 1:56:39Speaker 2: secure facility and left immediately. Full disclosure, one of the
- 1:56:45Speaker 2: neat things, right after that, Uh, there is an amphibious
- 1:56:49Speaker 2: assault ship, the USS New York. It's a, uh, LPD.
- 1:56:53Speaker 2: They carry Marines and a few, uh, Osprey. Uh, but
- 1:56:58Speaker 2: it has got steel from the world trade center in
- 1:57:01Speaker 2: the hull, uh, USS New York, LPD 21.
- 1:57:05Speaker 3: So real.
- 1:57:05Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:57:10Speaker 1: Jason.
- 1:57:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:57:13Speaker 3: I would love to see what they did to it. Um,
- 1:57:16Speaker 3: I've never been to New York. It's still on my
- 1:57:18Speaker 3: bucket list. I got a friend that lives there. And
- 1:57:21Speaker 3: you guys know Cliff and Rob. Look, I would love
- 1:57:24Speaker 3: to just see what it is. All the men and
- 1:57:28Speaker 3: women who tragically lost their lives. However, they saved many lives.
- 1:57:35Speaker 3: So it just goes without saying. I was 18 years
- 1:57:40Speaker 3: old when it happened. You don't realize what's happening now.
- 1:57:44Speaker 3: I think I was going to work that morning and
- 1:57:46Speaker 3: I heard, you know, that happened in 2001. So again, it's,
- 1:57:53Speaker 3: it's something that I definitely want to see Scott and
- 1:57:57Speaker 3: what they've done to it with the monuments and the memorial.
- 1:58:00Speaker 3: So it's definitely really cool.
- 1:58:04Speaker 4: Wow.
- 1:58:05Speaker 3: Is that a picture of it? Yeah. I just... you know,
- 1:58:11Speaker 3: what a, what a legendary, you know, you know, monument
- 1:58:15Speaker 3: and Memorial there. I, I, you can't say enough. And,
- 1:58:22Speaker 3: and I just, I just read a story the other
- 1:58:25Speaker 3: day about firefighter, how he, you know, he went in
- 1:58:28Speaker 3: and lost his life. So you see it all the time.
- 1:58:32Speaker 3: And it's, it's definitely what this country is. We're fighters.
- 1:58:35Speaker 3: We're United States of America. And, and, um, things have happened,
- 1:58:41Speaker 3: but at the same time, we came back and because
- 1:58:44Speaker 3: of those things, we make us stronger. And there you.
- 1:58:49Speaker 8: Go.
- 1:58:49Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:58:49Speaker 1: Cliff.
- 1:58:52Speaker 4: All right. Um, sorry. You know, this is tough for me. Um,
- 1:58:59Speaker 4: I haven't been back to the new one. I want
- 1:59:03Speaker 4: to go. That Friday before the Tuesday, me, my wife,
- 1:59:08Speaker 4: and my friend were in that area. And we went
- 1:59:11Speaker 4: for dinner. And it's like, oh, let's go up to
- 1:59:13Speaker 4: the top. And I'm like, oh, not now. We'll get
- 1:59:19Speaker 4: there sometime. And, of course, I regret that. And, of course,
- 1:59:23Speaker 4: my friend died that day. Police officer Glenn Pettit. He
- 1:59:29Speaker 4: was one of us, Scott. I knew him from News
- 1:59:33Speaker 4: 12 Long Island, and then he wound up becoming an EMS,
- 1:59:36Speaker 4: and then fireman, and then he finally got his dream
- 1:59:40Speaker 4: job of being a cop and a video production unit.
- 1:59:44Speaker 4: And he actually saved a couple of our former colleagues,
- 1:59:50Speaker 4: the guys Jack and Neil, because they were photographers, because
- 1:59:53Speaker 4: he knows we push it. We always push it to
- 1:59:58Speaker 4: get the shot. And he's like, you don't follow me.
- 2:00:01Speaker 4: You come anywhere near, I'll shoot you. And he said,
- 2:00:04Speaker 4: you just run. You just run. And they both say
- 2:00:07Speaker 4: he saved our lives. So I do want to go back.
- 2:00:11Speaker 4: And I want to see my friend's name on there.
- 2:00:15Speaker 4: Glenn Karen Pettit. NYPD 3815. I still have a T-shirt
- 2:00:20Speaker 4: that I got when I went to his memorial service.
- 2:00:22Speaker 4: I gave out T-shirts for him. Such a great guy.
- 2:00:26Speaker 4: And every time I wound up shooting, I knew it
- 2:00:29Speaker 4: because he was crazy with the way he would shoot.
- 2:00:31Speaker 4: He just hustled. And I'm like, I did exactly what
- 2:00:35Speaker 4: he did. And I make sure all my students know
- 2:00:37Speaker 4: who he is. So this is something I want to see.
- 2:00:40Speaker 4: I want to go there. But I know it's going
- 2:00:43Speaker 4: to be tough. Even though it's only five years, it
- 2:00:46Speaker 4: still hurts.
- 2:00:47Speaker 1: I'll say this, Cliff. My deepest condolences for your loss
- 2:00:50Speaker 1: for sure. It was hard for me to avoid it.
- 2:00:53Speaker 1: We talk travel. We also talk about, we can't avoid
- 2:00:55Speaker 1: the tragedy because our lives have changed because of that.
- 2:00:59Speaker 1: But my deepest condolences, nonetheless. Okay, Rob. Yeah, I, you know, I.
- 2:01:04Speaker 5: Was in both towers a bunch of times. And, you know,
- 2:01:08Speaker 5: still to this day, I can't believe that they're gone.
- 2:01:10Speaker 5: I was working for North Jersey media at that time.
- 2:01:14Speaker 1: So I saw everything that was going on.
- 2:01:17Speaker 5: And if you live in the city or in New Jersey,
- 2:01:23Speaker 5: You know someone who unfortunately got killed that day. And
- 2:01:28Speaker 5: we know too many people. I have so many stories that,
- 2:01:33Speaker 5: forget it, we'd be here for a couple of hours.
- 2:01:37Speaker 5: All I have to say is, you know, let's just
- 2:01:39Speaker 5: remember the heroes. Remember the people who died in those
- 2:01:44Speaker 5: buildings for no reason.
- 2:01:48Speaker 1: No reason at all. Except hatred.
- 2:01:51Speaker 3: But.
- 2:01:52Speaker 10: You know, like I said, I was in both towers
- 2:01:54Speaker 10: a bunch of times.
- 2:01:58Speaker 1: Great points. Okay, Eddie.
- 2:01:59Speaker 8: A handful of years ago, probably 10, maybe more now,
- 2:02:03Speaker 8: I was up visiting. My brother and his wife live
- 2:02:06Speaker 8: up in the city. And we went down to visit
- 2:02:09Speaker 8: the memorial.
- 2:02:10Speaker 6: And Scott, to your point, it is very surreal to
- 2:02:13Speaker 6: be there.
- 2:02:14Speaker 8: And I think everybody, to Rob's point, if you're in
- 2:02:19Speaker 8: that tri-state area, I went to school in Philadelphia. I
- 2:02:22Speaker 8: had a fraternity brother of mine who worked for Cantor Fitzgerald.
- 2:02:25Speaker 1: Up on the whatever.
- 2:02:27Speaker 8: They were all the way up at the top who
- 2:02:30Speaker 8: perished in the plane crash. And even if it can
- 2:02:36Speaker 8: even be more tragic is his wife was pregnant at
- 2:02:38Speaker 8: the time. And, you know, you think about, you know,
- 2:02:42Speaker 8: I saw a video of two kids. I think the
- 2:02:48Speaker 8: naval officer running and they were doing a video and
- 2:02:50Speaker 8: they're doing a mile for each one of the victims
- 2:02:54Speaker 8: that lost their lives in the tower and they're saying
- 2:02:57Speaker 8: their names and so on. And the interesting part about
- 2:03:00Speaker 8: these two women is that they were children in the
- 2:03:04Speaker 8: daycare at the Pentagon the day the plane hit and
- 2:03:08Speaker 8: were rescued out and survived it and are now adults,
- 2:03:15Speaker 8: which is kind of I think we all know where
- 2:03:19Speaker 8: we were the day that it all happened, and we're
- 2:03:22Speaker 8: already 25 years later. So may all those souls rest
- 2:03:27Speaker 8: in peace on a worthless tragedy that should never have happened.
- 2:03:30Speaker 1: Okay, Candy?
- 2:03:34Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there are very few dates that you
- 2:03:39Speaker 7: will always remember where you were when something happened. this
- 2:03:44Speaker 7: happened to be one of those in this generation that
- 2:03:49Speaker 7: we will all remember. At the time, I was working
- 2:03:56Speaker 7: for a credit union, but inside a VA hospital. And
- 2:04:01Speaker 7: the minute those happened, and then the Pentagon, and they
- 2:04:05Speaker 7: all went immediately on lockdown because they thought that they
- 2:04:08Speaker 7: were coming after veterans and military, and so they thought
- 2:04:15Speaker 7: we were a target. Never forget that day. I'll never
- 2:04:19Speaker 7: forget one of the hospital employees. She came down, and
- 2:04:27Speaker 7: we were talking, and she's just like, my sister's in
- 2:04:31Speaker 7: the Pentagon. I can't get a hold of her. I
- 2:04:33Speaker 7: don't know what's happened to her. And just the whole, like,
- 2:04:38Speaker 7: she went, like, sheet white, and.
- 2:04:43Speaker 7: It's just surreal. Luckily for her, her sister was fine,
- 2:04:50Speaker 7: but many people perished. Just a sad day in our history,
- 2:04:55Speaker 7: an unfortunate day in our history. The only thing I
- 2:05:00Speaker 7: will say about that is I loved what we were
- 2:05:05Speaker 7: the next day. I loved the America we were the
- 2:05:08Speaker 7: next day, and I wish we'd get back to that
- 2:05:11Speaker 7: America more often.
- 2:05:12Speaker 6: Amen.
- 2:05:14Speaker 1: Yeah, amen there. The only thing I'll say about this
- 2:05:16Speaker 1: is I was actually living in Chandler, Arizona at the time,
- 2:05:19Speaker 1: going to visit my attorney, and I didn't hear about
- 2:05:22Speaker 1: it because I was driving. I don't listen to a
- 2:05:24Speaker 1: lot of radio, just mainly music. And my attorney told
- 2:05:27Speaker 1: me about it and said, did you hear about this? No,
- 2:05:29Speaker 1: kind of like driving to you. I was undergoing a
- 2:05:32Speaker 1: divorce and had to meet with him. But when it
- 2:05:35Speaker 1: all sunk in, it was bad. And here's the irony, sports-wise,
- 2:05:39Speaker 1: I'm living in Arizona, and the Yankees are... get to
- 2:05:44Speaker 1: the World Series. Now, you know, 49 states are going
- 2:05:47Speaker 1: to root for New York. Well, I don't know if
- 2:05:51Speaker 1: Boston will, but at least 49. And I'm the lone
- 2:05:55Speaker 1: amigo in Arizona where, you know, us Diamondbacks would like
- 2:05:59Speaker 1: to win it too. But I understood the sentiment that
- 2:06:03Speaker 1: went in terms of the tragedies and so forth. And again,
- 2:06:08Speaker 1: I can't speak louder with my heart that I'll go
- 2:06:14Speaker 1: with Candy. I wish we were the America back then
- 2:06:19Speaker 1: that we are right now because it is ugly. Rest
- 2:06:24Speaker 1: in peace, everybody. All right, now I'm going to turn
- 2:06:26Speaker 1: it over to Candy and Rob. They were off the
- 2:06:28Speaker 1: internet last Monday night, but they're going back on Monday. Well,
- 2:06:32Speaker 1: I don't know which one he wants to take over,
- 2:06:34Speaker 1: but you got a little bit of travel tonight, and
- 2:06:36Speaker 1: now you're going to get a lot more with these two.
- 2:06:38Speaker 1: Take it away.
- 2:06:41Speaker 5: You want me to start, Candy? You can go ahead Yeah.
- 2:06:45Speaker 5: The show, the last show was great. We had a
- 2:06:47Speaker 5: pretty big audience and it was a lot, the, the
- 2:06:50Speaker 5: past couple of shows, they all been fun, but the
- 2:06:53Speaker 5: past couple of shows have been really fun because we've
- 2:06:54Speaker 5: been going over lists of stuff in the 50 States.
- 2:06:58Speaker 5: So it's been, it's been really fun. And I think
- 2:07:03Speaker 5: if you like to travel, we give a lot of tips.
- 2:07:08Speaker 5: We talk about a lot of great places and it's
- 2:07:10Speaker 5: just a lot of fun. It's the, Quickest half hour
- 2:07:14Speaker 5: out there.
- 2:07:15Speaker 1: Right, Candy?
- 2:07:16Speaker 5: It is.
- 2:07:16Speaker 7: The quickest 30 minutes in travel. I say that all
- 2:07:19Speaker 7: the time. We start talking and all of a sudden
- 2:07:22Speaker 7: it's 35 minutes. I'm like, wait, where did the time go?
- 2:07:24Speaker 7: I think this time, Rob, I think I love the
- 2:07:29Speaker 7: list ideas that we've been doing. I have a list here,
- 2:07:33Speaker 7: USA City's bucket list. The average person has checked five
- 2:07:39Speaker 7: of these off their bucket list. So tune in Monday
- 2:07:42Speaker 7: night to see how many you've checked off your list.
- 2:07:46Speaker 1: Sounds good. All right. A great preview by you two.
- 2:07:50Speaker 1: Looking forward to having it back on. And immediately after
- 2:07:53Speaker 1: their travel show, we have 108, Stitches Baseball Talk. Great show.
- 2:07:57Speaker 1: Good to have John back in the house. Got Jason
- 2:07:59Speaker 1: back feeling better. Cliff, you know how I feel about you.
- 2:08:03Speaker 1: I'm looking for topics to get our rant train rolling.
- 2:08:08Speaker 1: And Rob, good to have you back in. And Eddie,
- 2:08:10Speaker 1: you're the superstar this week. There is no show for
- 2:08:13Speaker 1: sports wrap tomorrow night, though. Candy and I will be
- 2:08:15Speaker 1: covering the Miami Hurricanes and Florida A & M. I
- 2:08:17Speaker 1: think they're called the Rattlers. but we'll be on a
- 2:08:20Speaker 1: normal schedule on Monday. Also, we have a game with
- 2:08:23Speaker 1: Navy against Florida Atlantic. It should be an interesting game
- 2:08:27Speaker 1: in the American Athletic Conference. So with that said, John,
- 2:08:32Speaker 1: please let everybody know how they can get ahold of you.
- 2:08:33Speaker 1: Great to have you back, John. Looking forward to seeing
- 2:08:35Speaker 1: you next week. All right, buddy?
- 2:08:36Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
- 2:08:37Speaker 1: So, John, let everybody know how they can get ahold
- 2:08:40Speaker 1: of you, buddy.
- 2:08:42Speaker 2: Okay. Hey, I'm just on email, john.r.hopkins58 at Gmail. You
- 2:08:46Speaker 2: can find me on Facebook.
- 2:08:49Speaker 1: And you can find him here on, I think, what,
- 2:08:52Speaker 1: Wednesdays and Thursdays? Is that correct?
- 2:08:53Speaker 2: Wednesdays and Thursdays.
- 2:08:56Speaker 1: This guy is unbelievable. All right, Jason, go ahead. All right.
- 2:09:00Speaker 3: You can find me on the Sports Exchange at Scott
- 2:09:03Speaker 3: Motor City, Mad Mouth, 8 to 10 Central, 9 to
- 2:09:07Speaker 3: 11 Eastern. I always enjoy being on the show with
- 2:09:11Speaker 3: you guys. It's so much fun. The more that I'm here,
- 2:09:14Speaker 3: the sadder I was missing last week. I had a little...
- 2:09:19Speaker 3: issue but I'm good now and like I said and
- 2:09:22Speaker 3: like I said you can also find me on YouTube
- 2:09:25Speaker 3: ProcSportsEdge1 as well so glad to be back I'll.
- 2:09:29Speaker 1: Say you've come a long way Jason I can only
- 2:09:31Speaker 1: imagine how much better you're going to get with more
- 2:09:33Speaker 1: reps great stuff okay Cliff my man.
- 2:09:37Speaker 4: You can find me on Facebook and Instagram and every
- 2:09:41Speaker 4: Wednesday night at 9 o'clock right here on this wonderful
- 2:09:45Speaker 4: podcast alongside all my great friends All right, RM.
- 2:09:51Speaker 5: Here on Wednesdays, Monday nights, 7-10, around 7-10, the Travel Show,
- 2:09:57Speaker 5: and everywhere else, NYMLB Talk, where tomorrow night at 8.30 p.m.,
- 2:10:02Speaker 5: the return.
- 2:10:03Speaker 2: Of Anthony Savino.
- 2:10:05Speaker 5: And, Scott, you have to come back on with Anthony
- 2:10:08Speaker 5: Savino soon.
- 2:10:10Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. We'll make that happen. I
- 2:10:12Speaker 1: don't know if you can get this guy to do
- 2:10:14Speaker 1: it on a Monday afternoon, but... Otherwise, I'll have to
- 2:10:18Speaker 1: break away for a half an hour somewhere along the lines.
- 2:10:21Speaker 1: But I'm looking forward to talking with Anthony. He's a
- 2:10:25Speaker 1: really class act. All right, Eddie, you're the superstar. You
- 2:10:29Speaker 1: are unbelievable. I appreciate you coming on as often as
- 2:10:32Speaker 1: you like.
- 2:10:34Speaker 8: Absolutely. You can find me Tuesday nights inside the pigskin
- 2:10:39Speaker 8: with Scott and crew where we talk all things football.
- 2:10:41Speaker 6: Then on.
- 2:10:42Speaker 8: Wednesdays, it is the Motor City Mad Mouths Anchor Show
- 2:10:47Speaker 8: where anything goes, as Scott likes to say. And believe me,
- 2:10:52Speaker 8: anything goes. You want to learn about the crazy? Come
- 2:10:56Speaker 8: join us on Wednesdays. And then on Thursday nights, except
- 2:11:00Speaker 8: this week, it's Sports Rap where we're talking all things
- 2:11:06Speaker 8: sports now on the new format it's sports rap show.
- 2:11:10Speaker 8: And you can catch me on all forms of social
- 2:11:13Speaker 8: media at Ed McAndrew. And then also wherever Scott wants
- 2:11:17Speaker 8: to throw me, I also go there.
- 2:11:21Speaker 1: I got an unbelievable group tonight. Every one of you
- 2:11:24Speaker 1: people here tonight between John, Jason, Cliff, Ed, of course, Rob,
- 2:11:30Speaker 1: I've known you at least a year, but all great finds.
- 2:11:32Speaker 1: And I always look to do everything I can to
- 2:11:34Speaker 1: improve the talent. And I got thoroughbreds on tonight. Candy,
- 2:11:37Speaker 1: take us home.
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- 2:12:49Speaker 7: we do the baseball show. Tuesday nights is football. Wednesday
- 2:12:54Speaker 7: nights is, yeah, like Ed said, anything goes. Motor City Memo.
- 2:12:58Speaker 7: You never know what we're going to be talking about.
- 2:13:00Speaker 7: I mean, never know. Like, did you know that there
- 2:13:03Speaker 7: was Lakes in Canada. All kinds of different names. And
- 2:13:09Speaker 7: I'm not even going to give them. You've got to
- 2:13:11Speaker 7: go watch the show because to see, listen to what
- 2:13:14Speaker 7: some of the crazy names are of some of the lakes.
- 2:13:19Speaker 7: And then, of course, this show Wednesday nights, Thursday nights
- 2:13:21Speaker 7: is normally sports wrap. And then the country club fire up.
- 2:13:27Speaker 7: And one last. Well, I'm going to here. I'm going
- 2:13:29Speaker 7: to show you guys our travel channel. is Destination Discoveries
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- 2:13:53Speaker 7: chicks in a pod. There's actually five of us now,
- 2:13:55Speaker 7: but there's three chicks in a pod. Tuesday nights, 7.30 p.m.
- 2:14:00Speaker 7: Go check that out as well. And please hit the
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- 2:14:06Speaker 1: All right. Great job by this group. Proud of every
- 2:14:10Speaker 1: one of you. Please don't forget that. So on behalf
- 2:14:13Speaker 1: of John, Jason, Cliff, Rob. How do you like that?
- 2:14:19Speaker 1: The way I can drag it out is Rob.
- 2:14:21Speaker 7: He's trying to be Spanish and roll his R's.
- 2:14:25Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I was just.
- 2:14:29Speaker 7: Rob.
- 2:14:29Speaker 1: It's okay. Ed and Candy. My name is Scott Morgan,
- 2:14:34Speaker 1: Rothenberger City, Manmouth. Thank you for joining us on this
- 2:14:36Speaker 1: edition of the Sports Exchange. We'll be back at 9
- 2:14:39Speaker 1: o'clock Wednesday night, next Wednesday night, for more great sports information. And,
- 2:14:43Speaker 1: of course, we like to have travel on the back
- 2:14:45Speaker 1: end of the show because why not? We got two
- 2:14:47Speaker 1: of the people doing the show on it. Might as
- 2:14:49Speaker 1: well go out there and throw that out there as well.
- 2:14:51Speaker 1: We'll find a new video and some other crazy stuff.
- 2:14:55Speaker 1: In the meantime, everybody, thank you very much for joining us.
- 2:14:59Speaker 1: And see you next week. Enjoy your weekend. Bye now.
- 2:15:04Speaker 5: Bye.