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Set 1: Blue Bloods (w/ Ian Eagle) · Stugotz and Company

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that.
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Speaker 2: Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
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Speaker 1: The rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there.
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Speaker 1: You love sandwiches. Huh, let's go to eighty.
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Speaker 3: It was bo.
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Speaker 1: Wow that prime time. Maybe I had a crush on
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Speaker 1: Betty Rubbell.
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Speaker 2: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went
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Speaker 2: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black.
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Speaker 1: He caught them the game last night, although they won
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Speaker 1: the game you're listening to to Gotsen Company. I love
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Speaker 1: this man.
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Speaker 2: He's one of the best broadcasters we have. He is
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Speaker 2: the voice of the Final Four. And look what happened
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Speaker 2: to Iron Eagle the rare Sweet sixteen before the Final Four.
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Speaker 2: His lab he has this is the greatest regional I've
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Speaker 2: ever seen. I and this is insane what you're about
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Speaker 2: to call.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does feel like that Stu Gotch And obviously
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Speaker 4: you've been following this thing forever. I've been doing the
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Speaker 4: tournament for twenty nine years. We've had great regionals. Certainly,
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Speaker 4: we've had tremendous storylines, we've had incredible games, But prior
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Speaker 4: to this one, I don't know if I've ever felt
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Speaker 4: the build up quite like this. This easily could have
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Speaker 4: been the Final four and nobody would have even bad
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Speaker 4: in an eyelash, right, So it's a pretty clear indicator
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Speaker 4: that there are behemoths at play here.
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's a great point.
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Speaker 2: Just about any year if this was the final four,
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Speaker 2: everyone would be thrilled with this being the final four, right,
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Speaker 2: it's crazy.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I think the Saint John's part of it is the
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Speaker 4: one that it's been a while. But for those of
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Speaker 4: a certain age, there is a romanticism regarding this because
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Speaker 4: of depending up on where you grew up, depending upon
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Speaker 4: who you were a fan of, depending upon if you
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Speaker 4: were just a big Hea East basketball head, and it's
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Speaker 4: ingrained in you that you have good thoughts when you
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Speaker 4: think of Saint John's.
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Speaker 5: It's been a long time.
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Speaker 4: It's been twenty seven years for for this program to
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Speaker 4: be on this stage, but it just feels right with
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Speaker 4: Rick Patino at the Helm that this is the time
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Speaker 4: for it to happen.
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Speaker 1: Did the committee do Saint John's wrong?
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Speaker 5: And what I mean by that.
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Speaker 2: Is just to get to the final four, Patino, we'll
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Speaker 2: have beaten Bill Sealth and Kansas.
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Speaker 1: We'll have to beat Duke and then.
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Speaker 2: If he gets past Duke, we'll have to face the
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Speaker 2: winner of Michigan State and Yukon.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can make the case certainly that they were
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Speaker 4: better than what they're seating was. I don't know if
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Speaker 4: there were opinions already made and formed before the Big
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Speaker 4: East Tournament, where they just plowed through. They did not
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Speaker 4: trail at all in the Big East Tournament. They were
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Speaker 4: clearly better than every other team at this point in
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Speaker 4: time in the Big East. Now we might end up
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Speaker 4: seeing Saint John's Yukon again and they'll be able to
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Speaker 4: settle it on the court. But I thought there were
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Speaker 4: going to be a four seed. I did in the
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Speaker 4: Grand scheme. It's not even just the seed you are,
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Speaker 4: it's where you're placed. And the East Region is completely stacked,
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Speaker 4: and we knew that prior, and we still feel the
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Speaker 4: same way even after two rounds.
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Speaker 2: I and do you like today's college basketball?
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Speaker 4: I like what the byproduct has been for the NCAA Tournament.
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Speaker 4: I believe that we're getting high level games. I believe
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Speaker 4: we're getting incredibly competitive action. And while I know that
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Speaker 4: we don't have the traditional Cinderella that we always dreamed of,
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Speaker 4: we have maybe some ancillary Cinderella that Nebraska and Iowa,
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Speaker 4: two teams that nobody leading up to the season would
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Speaker 4: have predicted would be a part of this thing based.
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Speaker 5: On where they were.
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Speaker 4: Nebraska's never won an NCAA tournament game before this year,
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Speaker 4: and Iowa had a guy that was coaching Division two
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Speaker 4: as recently as two years ago and has had this
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Speaker 4: meteoric rise, Ben McCollum, as a head coach in a
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Speaker 4: major conference. So I think you get a little taste
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Speaker 4: of it. But it's not the George Mason. It's not
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Speaker 4: the Loyola Chicago, it's not the VCU, it's not Florida Atlantic.
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Speaker 4: But I do think the games have been better, and
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Speaker 4: I felt that last year that the final four we
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Speaker 4: got last year four number one seeds, which is not
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Speaker 4: common as we know, and tremendous games. Those games were
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Speaker 4: drag them out, fight to the finished games, all three
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Speaker 4: of them.
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Speaker 5: I thought Duke and.
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Speaker 4: Houston was a serious battle. I thought Florida Auburn was fantastic,
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Speaker 4: and then the national championship game came down to one
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Speaker 4: final possession where Houston doesn't even get a shot off, which.
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Speaker 5: Is odd in and of itself.
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Speaker 4: I remember a national championship game down to one possession
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Speaker 4: where the team doesn't even get a field goal attempt off.
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Speaker 5: So I just think that maybe we have.
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Speaker 4: To retrain our brain a little bit and for now
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Speaker 4: this is the new normal.
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Speaker 1: It's hard.
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Speaker 2: And I asked that question because we live in a
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Speaker 2: world where Indiana dominates college football and Nebraska maybe the
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Speaker 2: team that dominates college basketball.
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Speaker 5: It's crazy. That seems very backward. Ass I would agree
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Speaker 5: that is.
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Speaker 1: I can't get used to it. I know you're telling
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Speaker 1: me to my brain, but I don't want to.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, not something in my lifetime I thought that we
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Speaker 4: would be talking about. But it does go to show
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Speaker 4: you two things to me more than anything else. Obviously,
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Speaker 4: money talks, we knew that. That's never been a debate.
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Speaker 4: But your leadership and the type of culture that you
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Speaker 4: set forth. What we've seen with Nebraska and Fred Hoiberg,
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Speaker 4: it's taken form, it's taken hold. He had this visual
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Speaker 4: and it's been building. It's been building. Remember two years
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Speaker 4: ago they went on a run in the Big Ten Tournament.
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Speaker 4: They opened some eyes around the country that maybe they
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Speaker 4: could be a factor, and then took a step back
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Speaker 4: last year. Well, they're back with a vengeance, and it
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Speaker 4: just shows that a a really solid leader and building
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Speaker 4: a team and a culture can work. Kurtzittingett, he enough said,
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Speaker 4: I mean, this guy came in with confidence. He's not
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Speaker 4: the first to have bravado, but he's among the first
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Speaker 4: to really back it up in short order.
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Speaker 3: And of the three one seeds left Michigan, Arizona and Duke,
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Speaker 3: it feels like Duke, what crazy enough, is the one
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Speaker 3: being overlooked the most. What does Patrick Gumba due to
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Speaker 3: Duke's ceiling now that he's.
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Speaker 4: Back, I thought he changed everything from round one to
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Speaker 4: round two, all of the confidence that Sienna built in
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Speaker 4: the first round, getting towards the ram, not feeling like
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Speaker 4: there was a real hurdle for them. On the defensive end,
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Speaker 4: Duke is known as a great defensive team. I didn't
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Speaker 4: feel that in the first half against Siena. That team
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Speaker 4: just gained confidence, and I thought a lot of it
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Speaker 4: was based on the fact that you didn't have the
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Speaker 4: presence of Gungba, a true shot blocker and a true
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Speaker 4: to throw them off their game. Second half, Duke, obviously
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Speaker 4: they found something and they regained their confidence. They looked
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Speaker 4: shell shocked. I mean, I'm telling you from the court
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Speaker 4: side of you looking into their eyes. In that first half,
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Speaker 4: it was truly a moment where I thought, personally, as
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Speaker 4: we had halftime, they could get clipped. They just didn't
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Speaker 4: have the look of a number one overall seed, of
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Speaker 4: a champion. And then they rally in the second half.
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Speaker 4: Second round, completely different story. Gungbo was a plus twenty
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Speaker 4: in thirteen minutes of action. That's the kind of impact
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Speaker 4: that he had. I thought what I noticed was TCU
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Speaker 4: all of those shots that were going down in the
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Speaker 4: first round against Ohio State, what Punch was doing around
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Speaker 4: the rim, He couldn't do any of it, any of it.
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Speaker 4: So I just think he's a huge factor. The Foster injury, though,
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Speaker 4: in a game like this and Saint John's could be
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Speaker 4: very serious because I just think Saint John's is going
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Speaker 4: to They're gonna sick the dogs on them. They're gonna
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Speaker 4: pick up full court, they're gonna harass them, They're gonna
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Speaker 4: challenge Duke to just get the ball across the line
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Speaker 4: to get into their offense. And I know this is
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Speaker 4: hard to say, but I think they might actually need
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Speaker 4: more right now from Cameron Boozer than they got in
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Speaker 4: the first two rounds, which was a lot, but in
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Speaker 4: this game in particular, he's gonna have to handle the
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Speaker 4: ball quite a bit. That's an additional responsibility that I'm
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Speaker 4: not sure they expected at this stage of the tournament.
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Speaker 2: It's fairly amazing that Rick Patino, at least for me,
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Speaker 2: growing up one of the most polarizing figures anywhere in sports,
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Speaker 2: and now he's beloved every team.
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Speaker 1: Every Taylor loves them.
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Speaker 2: Every team would want to be their head coach. It's
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Speaker 2: crazy what happened there the rules changed.
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Speaker 5: I guess, yeah, you know what, I think.
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Speaker 4: Obviously, different people handle things at different stages of their
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Speaker 4: life in different ways. I just think there's a real
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Speaker 4: joy that's coming through how he's conducting himself. And that's
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Speaker 4: not to say he didn't enjoy winning prior, but he
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Speaker 4: did it with a more serious tone. His press conferences
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Speaker 4: were often pretty direct, and now you're seeing the human
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Speaker 4: being behind the coach.
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Speaker 5: And that could be.
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Speaker 4: Aged, that could be experienced, that could be just based
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Speaker 4: on where he is in his life and this particular team.
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Speaker 4: But I've just noticed his comportment is different. He's enjoying
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Speaker 4: the hell out of this.
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Speaker 5: Yes, that goes a long way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does.
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Speaker 2: As someone who graduated from Syracuse University. And we'll get
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Speaker 2: to that in just a second, because we did some
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Speaker 2: blind rankings with Danny.
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Speaker 1: Parkins and we'll give you the results here.
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Speaker 2: I just admitted, But are you a fan of the
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Speaker 2: hire of Jerry McNamara as your new head coach?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: I thought Syracuse was going to deputize me at halftime
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Speaker 4: of that Sienna Duke game and just say, hey, just
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Speaker 4: go up to Jerry and tell them the gig is
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Speaker 4: his on behalf of Orange Nation. Just represent all of
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Speaker 4: us and get the deal done. Actually I have to urinate.
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Speaker 4: Can I do that first, because that's what I do
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Speaker 4: at halftime? No, I think it's a home run higher.
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Speaker 4: It's what they need right now. Look, they also need
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Speaker 4: the resources and the support. And as we know currently
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Speaker 4: in college basketball, it's a money game. But it's not
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Speaker 4: just how much money you have. As we've seen there
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Speaker 4: are a lot of programs that had big year spending
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Speaker 4: and didn't have the success that they were hoping for.
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Speaker 4: It is chemistry. It is connectivity with your guys. And
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Speaker 4: I do think he provides a very strong voice for
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Speaker 4: anyone that's never talked to Jerry McNamara or spend any
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Speaker 4: time with him.
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Speaker 5: He's got a lot of confidence at.
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Speaker 4: Confidence as a player, he's got confidence as a coach.
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Speaker 4: I think he believes in how he messages, and at
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Speaker 4: this juncture, this fan base needed something like this to
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Speaker 4: get behind. Would they have been fine with someone outside
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Speaker 4: the family. I think they probably would have if it
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Speaker 4: meant winning. But I think this is an added bonus
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Speaker 4: that he is a true blue Syracuse guy with a
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Speaker 4: national championship and a highlight reel as a player that
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Speaker 4: you can put on a loop, and he's already shown
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Speaker 4: that he's got the makings of an outstanding head coach.
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Speaker 1: Were you surprised that Carolina got rid of you, Bert Davis?
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Speaker 5: I was. I was.
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Speaker 4: Obviously we did that game in Greenville, and to myself, man,
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Speaker 4: how different would this look with Caleb Wilson in the lineup?
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Speaker 4: One of the best players in the country, probably a
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Speaker 4: top three pick, may even be the number one pick,
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Speaker 4: depending upon who's making that selection. I think if you
12:15
Speaker 4: take the best player off of every roster in college basketball,
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Speaker 4: it's obviously very challenging to win and win consistently. If
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Speaker 4: they win that game. I always find this interesting in
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Speaker 4: the sliding doors world.
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Speaker 5: That we live in.
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Speaker 4: If they win that game, if they don't go to OT,
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Speaker 4: if they handle their business and hold off VCU and
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Speaker 4: then lose in the second round in a tight one
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Speaker 4: against Illinois, is there a change or no?
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Speaker 5: Probably not.
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Speaker 1: I will tell you this.
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Speaker 2: If he gets to the sweet sixteen with Caleb Wilson,
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Speaker 2: there is no change at all.
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Speaker 5: He's no no doubt, no doubt in my mind.
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Speaker 4: If they advance through this tournament with Caleb Wilson, Now
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Speaker 4: that's not a guarantee. Illinois tough, They're big, their physical
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Speaker 4: To me, they had one of the best opening weekends
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Speaker 4: of this tournament. How they looked it's based on a
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Speaker 4: number of factors. Their first round matchup was with Penn,
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Speaker 4: they just over matched them. And then the second round
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Speaker 4: they got this team that was an upstart squad that
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Speaker 4: didn't see themselves as a cinderella, but certainly pulled off
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Speaker 4: something in that first round, a nineteen point.
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Speaker 5: Comeback against UNC.
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Speaker 4: I think that there was something simmering clearly at UNC
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Speaker 4: previously that just percolated to the point where they couldn't
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Speaker 4: dismiss it, and they ended up dismissing Hubert in the process.
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Speaker 4: It's always weird when a player who was great at
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Speaker 4: a school ends up becoming a head coach of that
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Speaker 4: school and then has to move on, And now what's
13:52
Speaker 4: the relationship Patrick Ewing Georgetown and Chris Mullen Saint John's.
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Speaker 4: They're a bunch of these examples where Red Autry Syracuse.
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Speaker 4: You don't know now what that dynamic is going to
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Speaker 4: be for the next five, ten, fifteen, twenty years. Does
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Speaker 4: Hubert ever walk on that campus again, or does he
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Speaker 4: get over at some point and have success somewhere else
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Speaker 4: and just say say, all right, this happened for a reason.
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Speaker 2: It's tricky because you know, they wanted to celebrate Youbert
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Speaker 2: Davis's career, and Hubert's like, no, I'm not done coaching.
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Speaker 2: I still want to be the coach at North Carolina.
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Speaker 2: Ye you, I don't want to celebrate my career. So
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he walks back on the campus again,
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting. But it's also another sign of
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Speaker 2: how much the times have changed, where you have potentially
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Speaker 2: the Kansas job opening up, the Carolina job is open,
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Speaker 2: and Syracuse just filled their job.
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Speaker 1: Like those three jobs used to never come open. Eye
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Speaker 1: and it's crazy. Yeah, it really is.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, they had lifers. Those were lifers at
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Speaker 4: those Jim Beyheim was there forever as we know, prior
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Speaker 4: to that with Kansas, Roy Williams had the long stint,
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Speaker 4: followed by Bill's and then UNC had to tap dance
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Speaker 4: a little bit in the post Dean Smith era with
15:06
Speaker 4: Guthridge and with Dougherty, Roy Williams obviously in there as well.
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Speaker 4: I just I think things are changing in the college
15:17
Speaker 4: basketball landscape. And you know, it's funny, Stu Gott's when
15:21
Speaker 4: you broke into the industry, sports radio was playing such
15:26
Speaker 4: a role in a lot of these decisions because it
15:29
Speaker 4: was the first time that decision makers could put an
15:34
Speaker 4: outlet on and literally hear from their fan base. It
15:38
Speaker 4: was just a small portion of their fan base, but
15:42
Speaker 4: you get in a car and you turn on sports radio,
15:44
Speaker 4: you would hear a talk show host in New York,
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Speaker 4: of course Mike and the Mad Dog, but callers checking
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Speaker 4: in and giving their opinion, and I do think it
15:55
Speaker 4: affected decision maker's opinions on certain things. Now, let's just
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Speaker 4: move on to modern day. With Twitter, with individual podcasts,
16:08
Speaker 4: with Reddit, with message boards, you now have outlets that
16:13
Speaker 4: you could go to as an AD or as a
16:15
Speaker 4: GM and you can get a sense of where the
16:18
Speaker 4: wind is blowing. Again, fair, unfair, that's a whole different argument.
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Speaker 4: But it's real and it's happening.
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Speaker 3: Mike and demand dog got Piazza to the Mets.
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Speaker 5: Didn't they believe that?
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Speaker 4: It's you know, it's so funny. It's like one of
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Speaker 4: those where were you moments? And we do this all
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Speaker 4: of us as sports fans. I think sometimes people that
16:41
Speaker 4: aren't sports fans don't understand how someone could have ridiculous
16:46
Speaker 4: recall of dates and moments and what was happening in
16:51
Speaker 4: their life at the time. I think as sports fans,
16:54
Speaker 4: we tend to naturally catalog moments in our brain of
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Speaker 4: what you were doing, what was happening, how to affect
17:03
Speaker 4: other aspects of your life. So the Mike Piazza thing,
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Speaker 4: I was on vacation with my family at Disney and
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Speaker 4: walking around Disney like dealing with the lines, the heat.
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Speaker 4: You know, I could only do this in the summer
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Speaker 4: because of my schedule, so I only took my kids
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Speaker 4: to Disney when it was one hundred and seven degrees right.
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Speaker 5: This was to a complete and utter tour.
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Speaker 4: We did it four times, and on the fourth one,
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Speaker 4: my wife and I looked at each other and we said,
17:35
Speaker 4: never again.
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Speaker 5: We were defeated as human beings.
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Speaker 4: So that particular day, my son was a Mets fan
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Speaker 4: and I was young, and I remember getting the news
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Speaker 4: at Disney and he was sweating his balls off as
17:52
Speaker 4: a little kid wearing a tank top or an NBA jersey,
17:56
Speaker 4: and I.
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Speaker 6: Said, the Mets got Mike Piazzi's no way it affected
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Speaker 6: his life. I guarantee you, if you asked Noah right now,
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Speaker 6: where were you when the Mets got Mike Piazza, you
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Speaker 6: remember it, and You're right. Mike, Mike and the Mad
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Speaker 6: Dog very much went with the narrative that they made
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Speaker 6: it happen.
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Speaker 5: And maybe they did.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, listen, I remember where I was when
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Speaker 2: Laterner hit.
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Speaker 1: The shot against Piazza.
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Speaker 5: Completely.
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Speaker 2: Get Noah on the show please, because I want to
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Speaker 2: have where it was when this happens. I'm glad you
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Speaker 2: brought him up because I'm wondering, can you explain the
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Speaker 2: difference for you emotionally you calling a game as opposed
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Speaker 2: to listening to your son call the game, because I'm
18:39
Speaker 2: guessing it feels better listening to your son do it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're you're right.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 4: It's funny when I have people come up to me
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Speaker 4: and and they're saying something really nice and I take
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Speaker 4: it as such, but they say, hey, I heard your son.
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Speaker 5: And man, he he might end up being better than you.
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Speaker 4: So it's like this weird back ahead to compliment, but
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Speaker 4: it's a full on compliment.
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Speaker 5: I want him to be better. Of course, we want
19:06
Speaker 5: our children to do better than us. So yeah, a
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Speaker 5: lot of pride.
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Speaker 4: And you know, my wife and I there are moments
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Speaker 4: watching a game where we one one hundred percent look at.
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Speaker 5: One another and just think, how did this happen?
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Speaker 4: This little kid that now has the ability to go
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Speaker 4: on the air and show no signs of nervousness or
19:31
Speaker 4: anxiety and just do his thing and do it with
19:35
Speaker 4: a sense of passion and a sense of purpose. So
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Speaker 4: it's been this whole other chapter that has been unexpected completely.
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Speaker 4: But I do feel for my wife, who really was
19:49
Speaker 4: not a huge sports fan before all of this started.
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Speaker 4: She went through thirty years of having to watch my games.
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Speaker 4: I didn't make her, but you know she did, just to.
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Speaker 5: Feel a part of it.
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Speaker 4: This whole other avenue in which she has to watch
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Speaker 4: games or listen to games involving my son. I think
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Speaker 4: she consumes more NBA than any person in her friend group.
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Speaker 5: Why don't we just leave it at that.
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Speaker 2: I could safely tell you twenty years doing the show
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Speaker 2: with LeBatard, my wife never listened.
20:23
Speaker 1: She didn't want to.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's probably better. I'm gonna be honest with you.
20:29
Speaker 5: The Stutts in her is not strong.
20:31
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's not. So it's interesting.
20:35
Speaker 2: So you take a great deal, probably because yes, it's
20:37
Speaker 2: great watching. You want your kids to be a better
20:39
Speaker 2: version of yourself. Do you find it hard not to
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Speaker 2: give him pointers from time to time?
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Speaker 1: And does he you do? Does he receive them? Well?
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Speaker 5: No, no, I don't find it hard at all.
20:48
Speaker 4: My my pointers are usually mixed in with something else.
20:53
Speaker 4: It's never a text after a game. Hey, here's eleven
20:57
Speaker 4: things that I really think you need to I'm not
21:02
Speaker 4: a douchebag, first and foremost, and then second, I just
21:06
Speaker 4: don't parent that way. I never parented that way. It's
21:10
Speaker 4: usually in the form of some other conversation. And if
21:15
Speaker 4: something strikes me in the moment that I think could
21:18
Speaker 4: help him, I absolutely will share with him. But I
21:23
Speaker 4: also have to let him do his own thing and
21:26
Speaker 4: do it his way. But I think he would tell
21:29
Speaker 4: you that our relationship has obviously had this new spin
21:33
Speaker 4: to it because we do the same job. But at
21:35
Speaker 4: the core, it's still what it always was, and the
21:40
Speaker 4: broadcasting part has just been an add on. It's not
21:43
Speaker 4: replaced something else.
21:46
Speaker 2: Has he gained enough confidence here where perhaps from time
21:49
Speaker 2: to time he'll reach out to Dad and give Dad
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Speaker 2: some pointers.
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Speaker 5: No, that would not be well accepted by any stretch.
21:58
Speaker 4: No, Now you've got to know your yes.
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Speaker 1: Even at this age, I.
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Speaker 5: Can ground him.
22:04
Speaker 4: That's that's not a problem. I still have authority. That's
22:08
Speaker 4: not an issue. No, if he ever noticed something, I
22:10
Speaker 4: would want him to tell me. So it is a
22:13
Speaker 4: two way street and that's how it should be.
22:16
Speaker 2: Is Bill Raftery because for me he is I don't
22:19
Speaker 2: want to say he's underrated.
22:20
Speaker 1: He just kind of flies under the radar just a
22:22
Speaker 1: little bit.
22:22
Speaker 2: But I feel like he's the best sports analyst we
22:24
Speaker 2: have going You agree.
22:27
Speaker 5: I think he might be the best of all time. Truly.
22:30
Speaker 1: He's so good in.
22:31
Speaker 4: Terms of the mix that you're looking for as a viewer.
22:35
Speaker 4: Of course, you want analysis, you want to hear someone's
22:40
Speaker 4: knowledge and preparation, and I think Bill probably hasn't gotten
22:44
Speaker 4: enough credit for that part of it. His prowess as
22:48
Speaker 4: an analyst is legit. He coached in the Big East,
22:51
Speaker 4: he was a headman for Senall. He's been around basketball
22:54
Speaker 4: his whole life. He was a highly accomplished player, which
22:57
Speaker 4: he downplays, but he was. At one point he was
23:00
Speaker 4: the all time leading scorer in the state of New
23:02
Speaker 4: Jersey as a high school player for many years. It
23:06
Speaker 4: only recently went down went to LaSalle, was a tremendous
23:10
Speaker 4: player at LaSalle, and only because at the time the
23:14
Speaker 4: NBA didn't have a lot of teams. He ended up
23:18
Speaker 4: getting cut by the New York Knicks. But in any
23:21
Speaker 4: kind of expanded format, he's an NBA player and would
23:25
Speaker 4: have played in the league. So that changes your persona
23:28
Speaker 4: a bit. I think he leaned into the other side,
23:32
Speaker 4: which was very comfortable for him self, deprecation and using
23:39
Speaker 4: that to his advantage, because sometimes people will underestimate you
23:43
Speaker 4: when you approach life that way. The part that sets
23:47
Speaker 4: him to a category by himself is his feel for
23:54
Speaker 4: the moment and when it's time to really punch with
24:00
Speaker 4: something that is memorable. And grabs your attention and fits the.
24:07
Speaker 1: Event, Yes, the moment.
24:09
Speaker 4: He knows how to caption, and I can tell you
24:12
Speaker 4: I've worked with him. You know, we're talking about the
24:15
Speaker 4: better part of thirty years, which is hard for me
24:17
Speaker 4: to wrap my brain around. It really is off the cuff.
24:22
Speaker 4: This is not a guy that's got a yellow legal
24:24
Speaker 4: pad with a bunch of sayings on it. He just
24:28
Speaker 4: can intuitively hit the right moment with the right words.
24:35
Speaker 4: And it's incredibly memorable, and it's also it's highly it's
24:41
Speaker 4: highly relatable. It really feels like someone you would be
24:45
Speaker 4: sitting on the couch with watching the game, right that
24:47
Speaker 4: would that would say that and would crack you up.
24:51
Speaker 2: And for you calling the game, it has to be
24:52
Speaker 2: such a comfort to know he's always got it.
24:55
Speaker 1: Whatever you need, he always has it for you know
24:57
Speaker 1: he does.
24:58
Speaker 5: He does.
24:59
Speaker 4: And I've I've said this before, but it's worth reiterating.
25:03
Speaker 4: Amidst all of these things that I've been incredibly fortunate
25:07
Speaker 4: to be a part of in my broadcasting career, the
25:11
Speaker 4: one thing that I know, if not for this, none
25:16
Speaker 4: of it would would have happened, and that was getting
25:18
Speaker 4: paired with him in nineteen ninety five on New Jersey
25:23
Speaker 4: Nets broadcast, because just being around him taught me things
25:29
Speaker 4: that I never would have known in how to do
25:31
Speaker 4: the job, how to approach the job, how to blur
25:35
Speaker 4: the line between your personality and the persona that you're
25:39
Speaker 4: putting on the air, how to do it with a
25:42
Speaker 4: sense of fun and levity, but also the preparedness and
25:47
Speaker 4: not taking any broadcast for granted.
25:50
Speaker 5: We did some.
25:51
Speaker 4: Bad NETS teams, yes, really bad Nets teams, yes. And
25:55
Speaker 4: I can tell you, even though we may have not
25:57
Speaker 4: had many viewers, Bill and I still treated it like
26:01
Speaker 4: it was going across the globe, right.
26:04
Speaker 5: We always felt like it mattered.
26:07
Speaker 4: And I think that was something that was one hundred
26:10
Speaker 4: percent planted in my head because of him and because
26:13
Speaker 4: of his approach.
26:15
Speaker 2: We'll get you out here in just a second, and
26:16
Speaker 2: we appreciate you doing this. I did want to thank you.
26:18
Speaker 2: I've been meaning to thank you for some time now.
26:20
Speaker 2: I've been railing against this forever. When you come back
26:23
Speaker 2: into a game, like a game in Miami, for example,
26:26
Speaker 2: they come back the game's being played in Miami Gardens,
26:29
Speaker 2: yet they pan in through the Cleveland. They're on South Beach,
26:32
Speaker 2: which is forty five minutes away from really playing the
26:34
Speaker 2: actual game.
26:35
Speaker 1: And I was watching you. I think it was a
26:38
Speaker 1: Jack Gabe, Yes it was.
26:39
Speaker 2: Yes, it took us through the shithole that is New
26:41
Speaker 2: Jersey because you too are upset. Hey don't put us
26:44
Speaker 2: in New York City. We're in New Jersey and you
26:47
Speaker 2: took us through New Jersey and I wanted to thank
26:49
Speaker 2: you for doing that.
26:50
Speaker 5: I am yeah, No, that means a lots to guts.
26:52
Speaker 4: That that one I think resonated. I think there's a
26:55
Speaker 4: certain kind of audience that that thing. So who cares whatever,
26:59
Speaker 4: show me anything. I want to see the game.
27:01
Speaker 5: But then there's another faction and I.
27:04
Speaker 4: Would be included in that thank you where I am
27:08
Speaker 4: not happy. If you're showing something from a different area
27:11
Speaker 4: but claiming it's within that area, you're misleading me.
27:17
Speaker 5: How can I trust you? Your credibility is shot.
27:21
Speaker 4: We had a thing and I'll do this sometimes in
27:24
Speaker 4: a passive aggressive way with our crew. We have a
27:27
Speaker 4: tremendous crew and everybody that works on the show I
27:31
Speaker 4: truly have the ultimate respect for in every single role.
27:35
Speaker 4: They care, it matters, they take it seriously, but they
27:38
Speaker 4: do it with a smile and the right attitude. But
27:41
Speaker 4: we were in Chicago doing the Big Ten Championship and the.
27:47
Speaker 5: Final on Sunday. The weather was brutal, brutal.
27:53
Speaker 4: It was heavy rain, wind, there was the chance of snow,
27:58
Speaker 4: and we're coming back from break and they're gonna show
28:01
Speaker 4: me the shot that they're using that I'll do the
28:03
Speaker 4: next set of billboards over right. And I said to them,
28:06
Speaker 4: I go, is that a live shot? They go, no, no, no, no,
28:10
Speaker 4: I go, it's really nice out right now. Is that
28:12
Speaker 4: what you're telling me. They're like, no, it isn't. We'll
28:15
Speaker 4: get you another shot. Like, don't mislead the public.
28:18
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, don't show me a picture from Chicago eight
28:21
Speaker 5: years ago to try to sell it as this is
28:25
Speaker 5: what's happening right now and yes in the Windy City.
28:28
Speaker 5: I don't buy it. You're not alone.
28:29
Speaker 2: McDonald's with us, by the way, because when he was
28:31
Speaker 2: doing the hockey and it was in Sunrise, Florida, they
28:34
Speaker 2: would pan hit through South Beach and Fort Lauderdale Beach
28:37
Speaker 2: and Sean's like, hey, we're out by a mall.
28:39
Speaker 5: Like yeah, yeah. Have you ever been to Jacksonville? You
28:43
Speaker 5: guys ever been to Jacksonville?
28:44
Speaker 1: Of course yes.
28:46
Speaker 4: So when I got the NFL on CBS job in
28:49
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety eight. I had never been to Jacksonville before.
28:52
Speaker 4: So I go to Jacksonville and I'm curious. I, well,
28:55
Speaker 4: you know, where do you hang?
28:57
Speaker 1: Like?
28:57
Speaker 5: Oh, I got to go to the Landing? Really?
29:00
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
29:02
Speaker 4: So you go to the landing and it's basically a
29:05
Speaker 4: circle cement with some restaurants and some shops and that's it.
29:12
Speaker 5: It's nothing beyond that. Now it's on the water, so
29:15
Speaker 5: that part was.
29:15
Speaker 1: Nice, right, it's a place to drink, place to drink.
29:18
Speaker 5: Basically.
29:19
Speaker 4: I think there was like a fake Hooters there. So
29:24
Speaker 4: at some point about I don't know, four years ago,
29:28
Speaker 4: they got rid of the landing. It just went away. Yes,
29:31
Speaker 4: the shops went away, the restaurants went away. I don't
29:35
Speaker 4: know what they're doing at the landing, but it doesn't exist, right,
29:38
Speaker 4: And I'm watching a game two years ago and they
29:42
Speaker 4: have a shot of the landing in Jacksonville. Dude, it
29:52
Speaker 4: doesn't fucking exist.
29:54
Speaker 5: It's closed. What are we doing?
30:01
Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm not alone. Thanks, good, All right, we'll
30:05
Speaker 2: get you out of here. Danny Parkins was on with
30:07
Speaker 2: us yesterday. We did blind rankings of Syracuse alone, What
30:11
Speaker 2: do we do? Mikey keep three cut five, keep three
30:14
Speaker 2: cut five of Syracuse broadcasters all time.
30:17
Speaker 1: So well, Mikey's just gonna recap it for you.
30:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to hear it.
30:21
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, So they cut, and I say they because
30:27
Speaker 7: I was just here.
30:29
Speaker 1: He was the game show host.
30:31
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, they cut Sean McDonough, They cut Scott Hansen,
30:37
Speaker 7: they cut Marv Albert, they cut Bob Costas, and they
30:44
Speaker 7: cut Iron Eagle.
30:45
Speaker 1: I did it, Danny did and Taylor. That's it. I
30:48
Speaker 1: did not.
30:48
Speaker 7: They kept Turrico, they kept Nick right, and they kept
30:53
Speaker 7: Jeff passing.
30:54
Speaker 1: Right now, I didn't keep Nick right, Okay, Danny and Taylor.
30:57
Speaker 4: Dan, I still I still got love for Danny.
31:05
Speaker 5: I understand bread is buttered. I get that.
31:10
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a tough spot because you're liking these things,
31:13
Speaker 2: not knowing what the next name is.
31:14
Speaker 1: Going to be.
31:16
Speaker 5: Why justice is going to be pissed.
31:19
Speaker 1: Well, that's what Danny was worried about. Yeah, yes, but
31:22
Speaker 1: we did it Danny on purpose.
31:23
Speaker 5: So you know he's Danny, You're out of the family.
31:29
Speaker 7: He was worried that Matthew Berry was going to be
31:31
Speaker 7: the last name.
31:31
Speaker 1: So you guys that's why.
31:33
Speaker 5: That's why he'll put a hit out on him. That'll
31:35
Speaker 5: be the end of it.
31:37
Speaker 1: But can you believe Taylor keeping you off that list? Huh?
31:40
Speaker 7: I mean.
31:43
Speaker 5: Yeah.
31:43
Speaker 3: I was the deciding vote, and I felt I felt
31:46
Speaker 3: bad instantly.
31:47
Speaker 4: Yep, because you knew I was coming up the next
31:49
Speaker 4: day later later.
31:52
Speaker 5: This is hours ago.
31:57
Speaker 1: I got blinded trying to hold out for Craig Carton. Yes,
32:02
Speaker 1: and I was hoping Carton would never be mentioned.
32:06
Speaker 5: Tremendous.
32:07
Speaker 1: So good you got a deep roster there at Syracuse.
32:09
Speaker 2: My man, it is not bad, so much better than
32:13
Speaker 2: Northwestern's right where my daughter goes.
32:15
Speaker 5: Yes, I yeah, I saw that on social media. Congratulations.
32:18
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm in Chapel Hill right now. I want to
32:21
Speaker 2: say boots on the ground for the for the youuber
32:23
Speaker 2: Davis story, but I be lying. I'm here for Northwestern
32:25
Speaker 2: North Carolina game. I look forward to the games this weekend.
32:30
Speaker 2: I look forward to your call of the games along
32:32
Speaker 2: with Bill and Grant. You guys are fantastic. Thanks, thank
32:35
Speaker 2: you so much for doing this. Man, you are great,
32:37
Speaker 2: my pleasure. Great to be on with you guys. All right,
32:40
Speaker 2: I'm booking you next week for the just before the
32:41
Speaker 2: Final four because I have to reach out to you
32:45
Speaker 2: right before you call your biggest sporting events.
32:47
Speaker 5: Yes, I would have done it until the blind rankings.
32:50
Speaker 1: And then I kept you in.
32:52
Speaker 5: That ended it