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Talks to his royal guests Greg Miller about his choice of Spearhead from Space (1/4) · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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  Welcome back with a blunt penknife the Doctor Who
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  commentary podcast. I am extremely excited today to
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  be with actual living royalty in the the you can look away in the
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  form of Greg. Say hello Greg.
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  Hello everybody. Why are why are you Royal
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  secret? Greg tell me.
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  I don't know. Why am I room?
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  Okay, because your mom. Okay, so I'm gonna add a little
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  bit of context around the podcast.
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  Fly for entirety. There is a group meeting that
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  happens. What is it once a month?
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  I want some monkeys and there's a virtual one, and there's an
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  in-person one and I already Parts the month.
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  Thank you, honey. Few months I was invited to the
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  virtual version and you are the king of those meats.
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  Greg, this is why you are royalty.
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  Oh yes. Everyone thinks you're marvelous
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  and so do I. Thank you very much.
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  Greg, have you podcast it before?
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  No, it's a shocking oversight because you clearly have a lot
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  to say but I've been so far what we're talking about today.
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  Today we're talking about spearhead from space.
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  One of the most important doctor you stories because it's the
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  first of the the young Pertwee era.
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  It's changing the formula show no longer are we re following
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  around in time and space in a blue box with staff on Earth,
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  working for a government military organization with us.
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  Fantastic new companion or assistant lose.
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  Sure although of course she is more of an equal to the doctor,
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  then the predecessors other than perhaps Barbara.
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  Please. This is a scientist with sense
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  like 14 degrees from the school yet, even when, when she is
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  introducing its talked to by the Brigadier unit is back unit,
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  previously, paid looked and it was over a year ago.
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  It's been a years break between the invasion and spearhead from
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  space. And so we have a new style
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  Adventure, Alien Invasion that Nothing new.
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  But in the previous Stories, the doctor arrived on the planet and
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  got involved. Now he's there.
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  Usually when they start, So it's how are you different?
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  How old were you when you first saw this?
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  This was broadcast in Australia in 1971 about 18 months,
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  afterwards broadcasting England. I had looked at our I was nine
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  and shortly after it finished at 10:10.
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  And in addition to that in between meeting clean and the
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  finish of the show, my younger sister was born, so she should
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  1970, but like Sarah, Jane Smith is from 1980.
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  I think 70 and and how did you find Series 7 at the time as an
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  impressionable nine-year-old. I loved it.
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  I had been watching for a couple of years before.
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  My first story was Tomb of the Cybermen which by the way, all
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  those people who were sitting there thinking all did you see
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  the Abominable Snowman? Yes, I do.
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  To record things in people's brains.
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  I will offer the Abominable Snowmen for other people's
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  enjoying. It's a great store all does that
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  mean, does that mean the space bar is in there as well?
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  I can do not remember the space pirates.
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  There's a few stories, I don't remember.
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  The space part is one of them and it means the world is
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  another. Oh well, you don't need to
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  remember that one anymore. No, it's been found.
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  I don't recall watching few from the deep or the wheel in space.
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  but the Abominable Snowman is there and the ice Warriors and
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  Oh my God, to be watching those like to be watching those at 7
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  years old. But oh yeah, it was, it was
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  fantastic. But I was getting older and
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  while I love the entire 10 episodes of the war games, I
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  love long stories that are properly supported.
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  Not ones that have lots of padding.
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  The end with the doctors people and being forced to To change
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  his faced again week. I didn't know happen because I
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  didn't see any. We have four stories.
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  The whole idea, we're going something with there would be a
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  different doctor and they be new circumstances, and on it was
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  being, of course, broadcasting color, except that ahead and
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  start in Australia, it was black and white when I saw her, it
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  would make it even scarier also. I think so.
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  I think so, and the new format Doctor Who had basically take
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  this woman a few times. The war machines is like a
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  prototype of this with Has contacts on Earth and deals with
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  things from their perspective. Then whether see The Invasion
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  where you was introduced the Brigadier came in on the in the
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  Web of fear and they're now he's back as a regular eye.
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  Think it's a reformatting. Quite a mess, would be probably
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  seen as a template for this, for sure.
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  Absolutely. And another very popular show at
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  the time, was the Avengers. We can amount the female lead,
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  who were not the same as each other.
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  That complement each other and work together very well, which
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  is where I think they're going with dr.
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  Only Shore. Well, on that note, should we
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  skip into episode 1? Certainly.
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  I will count as in then in five four, three, two, one.
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  Let's go. Oh blimey.
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  That's a bit loud. My.
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  Okay, there we go. So that is potentially the most
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  colorful title sequence you're ever going to see.
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  And it was brand-new from the cabin ones, it was.
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  Yeah. So I've always had a lot of back
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  story about the, you know, the season, 11 title sequence, and
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  the harbor went into that. I've never really heard any
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  behind-the-scenes about this one now, and I think they were doing
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  pretty much the same as they had done before with the hell
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  around. But essay called, but I'm not
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  really sure how much about it. This is literally how Rose opens
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  isn't it with Azurill Earth and amazingly.
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  It's the Return of the doctor in a new season.
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  With a new companion, new setup and the new doctor, the same
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  monsters, and the same all day. Do you think, do you think the
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  show would have a very different feel of the whole thing was shot
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  on film? Like this?
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  I'm not one of these people to be feted by film versus video.
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  I had the nose. Of course, I focus on the story,
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  it certainly does look good. Although this lady's we does not
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  look good. Wait, watch.
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  You can do a lot of that in the seventies.
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  Yeah, it's just on crooked. And again, it's special effects
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  of the time. Be much better these days with
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  proper CGI but you know that's its job.
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  I think with this story with this season there's very little
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  like knowing Winks to the audience is all played really
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  straight, isn't it? And it's an ceiling.
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  Oh I can you translate him for me please because I can never
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  understand what he's saying. He doesn't.
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  With them. Thunderballs there's also a
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  layer. Now.
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  It's coming out not just yet later.
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  I'll come back to that later but back to look better now.
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  Probably realize, you know who's the who's the worst Yokel Pig
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  being Josh from years of access? This thing here, there's an old
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  science fiction movie called The Blob, which was Steve McQueen's
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  debut and a meteorite comes down crashing to the ground and some
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  guy comes in and eats away at it.
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  And in that move, either the radial cracks open and a Blog
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  comes crawling yet. And so it's about trying to eat
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  everything in the world. Oh, wow.
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  Is it, is that a b movie or just arrived?
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  Definitely, okay. It sounds like about it.
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  But yeah, it was it was made on the cheek but it's not a bad
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  movie. Had a sequel, got remade.
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  But we're not doing a horror podcast.
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  Well, I mean, there's plenty of there's plenty of horror in
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  this. So what is obviously that Skips
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  from a model short to live action, doesn't it very quickly,
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  very quickly, very smoothly and this lovely needs a Chicago.
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  Liz. Sure I rank about among the best
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  Doctor Who companions. Why is that?
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  I like that women basically. Oh, so and Kerry, John is quite
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  a good actress. She got favorable reviews when
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  she filled in to make the Smith against so Laurence Olivier.
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  Wow. But you came to work in
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  television and you may not know this, she was not a suspect and
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  next season, and she had a very strong view that she hadn't done
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  a good job in the show. Really.
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  Surely there was she's because I know she went to some
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  convention, so surely later in a lot with them.
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  It's all right. I don't hear anyone saying a bad
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  word about leash or she like, like, like Barbara, like Sarah
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  and kind of like Donna. So these are all like, kind of
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  older women. People generally have a really
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  positive consensus. Oh, here we are.
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  Let's call that green palm and 12.
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  Others are about 12 a whatever the actual lines she's lying for
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  her. So she isn't impressed if she
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  about any of this. Thank you Jody embraced.
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  In fact, if you watch her, she's not impressed with the Brigadier
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  especially because he's the one who's Shanghai.
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  And so she'll later on play after the doctor.
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  You'll Play it to General scobie.
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  Well, that's brilliant. Where she says she's not just a
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  pretty face and I guess he was enlisted.
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  Did you hear that II? Listen to her interview of
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  Kerala Punjab and apparently in order to get work in television
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  she had to have very kind of cheeky publicity pictures taken
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  of herself and she sent them out and then immediately she started
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  getting work. That tells you something about
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  what was going wrong with making television at the time?
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  And he's not going into the hospital.
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  This is a real hospital as I'm sure, you know, I love the wood
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  panels but yes. Everybody is trying to convince
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  these. That this is a worthwhile job.
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  I understand that because Courtney and Caroline John
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  became great friends. Eggs.
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  So they do the cover episode. They do the commentary on screen
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  here from space. So, dude, there's much
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  discussion about false eyelashes and forth last sessions, but
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  there's clearly, like, a very gentle chemistry between the two
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  of them. Yeah.
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  He wasn't the new boy, but he would had been brought back in
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  and in a way that he probably hadn't expected and she's the
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  like to get this job. So it's do you think this would
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  have worked in the second series though?
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  Life-giving where parallettes was taking?
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  The show? Not the same way, not the same
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  way because they wanted more traditional companion.
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  A, what's this Tucker? Yeah, they're supposed to Apogee
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  is happening connection and losses.
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  Yes, yes. That's obvious or something.
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  So, that was an amazing companion pressure.
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  Then you've got the job. All right.
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  Yes, I'll have to say this man. GB Munroe.
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  I think his name is Absolutely, like the most boring of the
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  calendar. - Bella remember the fellow from The Invasion.
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  He was really cute. I can't remember his name now.
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  I think his name was Jimmy as well as it may very well be.
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  They're all going to be Jimmy, makes the guide from The
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  Invasion, I'm pissed. He's a Madison and killer, but
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  this guy's pretty unmemorable is Ali.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  He's just Beige sort of isn't about his uniform, The netting,
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  beige personality, this scene with the two hearts.
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  Yeah, this plays out exactly the same in the TV movie, but this
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  is the first time it's happened prior to this.
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  There was no hints and dr. Helen alien fizzy fizzy
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  physiology like in The wheel in space.
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  They have dr. Bose thoroughly, examined.
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  And they made their comments. And there's plenty of other
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  people in the future. Have you running around?
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  But no, it seems not. They tried to say in the Doctor
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  Who novels that, you know, kind of start out with one heart and
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  when they were generated the first time they got to, but
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  didn't seem to work the battery. You see this fellow in the
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  background here? Hoovering.
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  I swear I've seen him down a Welsh, mine somewhere.
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  You know you probably have is a very good bit bad player.
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  I'm not sure how well you go in a lead role but he certainly
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  full of full of characters come Rises to the occasion and
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  there's a great job and countering the teeth that
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  category surname. Is it?
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  Tell Friend, Thomas, Is the teeth because you're selling
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  them and you'll see the beginning.
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  Again here we are. Robert Holmes doesn't have a
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  great degree of love for authority and said we think
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  doctors argue with doctors about whether someone's playing a
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  prank or not so quite good and he always pokes fun at
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  bureaucracy as well doesn't do ya like that people read tapers,
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  you know, Yes. And he comes to make the Fatal
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  phone call. Well, not quite angel.
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  I think all the back of like because this looks so different.
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  I just like on the back of the last throughout the season,
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  people ask me like, what is this?
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  You're like. Yeah, yeah, very different pace.
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  You haven't even read the doctor doesn't falling heavily malice
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  and we're about halfway through. And just looking at the way that
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  his mouth always sleepy. So crooked when he's speaking.
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  That's why he's a great character actor.
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  Did you ever read the the Terrance dicks novelization of
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  this the target book? Yes, I did.
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  I read it when it came out. Did I say that it was released
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  with the cave monsters and the reprint of the three?
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  Have, no one's, which I got for Christmas one year.
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  And here it is the glowing orb of guest.
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  Yes. Oh you see where he is right
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  now, this sort of very leafy. English Countryside.
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  This is I love exploring areas. I've got lots of areas like this
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  where I live excellent you don't have any Union Soldiers there be
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  nice. So training on with crimes,
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  doesn't hurt The View. I figured that sounds silly was
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  dead quick. When I first watched it, I
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  thought this guy's in trouble. Yeah, well, if you're being the
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  Bobby being travel or now, some very exciting for detecting
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  unhand me Madam. The trouble is, all right, is I
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  think a lot of people would have thought of the back of Jon
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  pertwee's. Previous like, well, look, that
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  he would have been all about this all comedy and it's not the
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  case at all, was it? No comedic actor.
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  And I know that you've discussed this done people.
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  Other comedic actors being brought in.
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  And of course, they have excellent timing that I could
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  jokes work properly and all I need is a bit of decent
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  emotional acting. And if we fantastic, oh my word.
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  Channing the villain. That man has got the perfect
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  face to be a villain. So Greg print is Hancock.
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  Yes, practice ACO who you'll see you there in the crowd.
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  He's making his first appearance in Doctor.
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  Who first of a number not one of my favorite actors.
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  You always seems very cross about the world, but
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  nevertheless, he does a job in this one.
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  It's a quite a good job in the background.
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  You can also see The queue burden who plays training,
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  terrified in my view, Channing had you been a megalomaniac
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  there. It is could have been one of the
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  greatest opportunity bill and Ever After with mavic chin and
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  the other big in Motors but because he's very staid and
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  restrained. He just remains very menacing.
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  Did you see that tracking shot there?
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  For the hospital. And there was all this activity
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  going on left and right as the camera sort of came back through
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  that Corridor. That's some pretty good
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  direction. Yes.
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  And there's a well-directed story and they were doing it
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  with less control over the environment than usual.
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  So it's fantastic. What was Derek Martin versus
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  previous? What else did he do?
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  I think this is his last last one, but he started back in the
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  house earlier. What did he do?
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  The war machines? Maybe.
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  Yeah. That was Michael Ferguson,
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  wasn't it? Look old.
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  I should have done my research, the Brigadier meeting the new
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  doctor, and being amazing disappointed because it's not
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  who we thought of was. Let's just think he's a bit
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  crazy by the looks. Yeah, but this scene is a bit
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  reminiscent of the previous generation story power of the
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  Daleks with Ben Jackson. Also someone in the year for
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  doesn't believe that this new person is the doctor and require
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  some convincing generous the story.
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  We don't have a poly government but D XD the interesting thing
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  is here is they deal with it in this first episode.
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  So, but then from SO2 is pretty much taken as a given that he
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  is. The doctor was in power.
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  The Daleks, I don't think we're supposed to be that convinced
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  until the arrow and the paradoxes, of course, seven
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  episodes and both Michael craze and Annika Wills have holidays
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  during a high. So, Strange story for the
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  companions driver holiday on, isn't it?
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  The first one of an array, but I'm not sure how well planned
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  ahead have knows the patch was, is for medical reasons.
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  So they may holidays maybe prepaying and things may have
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  been pre-booked. Oh, and he's the famous, I don't
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  like how I look seeing that will get pretty much every generation
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  from now on. So if you if you call / we at
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  knowing is old. You two sure you watch the
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  entire Runner poet. Yeah yeah yeah.
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  And so how I'm assuming? Yeah, there was a point where he
• 23:10
  was just the only doctor. well, I still remember Patrick
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  troughton, and of course we were reminded with three doctors but
• 23:19
  yeah, he was five years of Pertwee and five glorious years
• 23:25
  I have to say, they don't always Looking back on for being sound
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  stories in terms of the politics that they explored they were
• 23:44
  more inventive than during the travel period.
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  In terms of the types of stories, they did almost as
• 23:51
  crack with the costumes as the dress definitely and
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  mysteriously. The doctor has a gold chain.
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  I'm not sure that Mysteriously Greg in the shower scene, it was
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  revealed the answer to not to mention, you get to see Jon
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  pertwee's and line it. Well he's probably just come
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  back from his house in Ibiza. So yes he's no beef invention
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  are I do like all this though with that with the press and
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  bustle in the hospital. And he, and another great thing
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  with training in the closet, I mean, the telephone booth, you
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  don't get that in. You go, That's the other that
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  want me to wrap them in lo and behold he's not on the phone at
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  all and standing there looking into the distance.
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  We don't know much about this guy yet I really didn't spend
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  that. They deliberately trying to make
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  his face look a bit artificial because it does.
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  Yes, there were, there was a bit of a bit of Vaseline.
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  On his face to make it slightly shinier.
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  He's saying. Here we go.
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  You have had suvarna rabbit. I'll tell who and he's trying to
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  information about if you can make some more money because
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  he's a bit of a wheeler-dealer, our saying, Terror sticks on the
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  Coventry. It starts doing the impression
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  of him and he's like, you know, I script editing this and I
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  haven't got a clue what he's saying.
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  Ha ha ha. Yes and he's being extremely
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  active there. That does, though, he thinks
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  he's clever. He's not that clever not the way
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  he goes about things. I love his serving relationship
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  with his wife. Oh yes, it's fantastic.
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  But I think we see make this in yesterday's episode yet.
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  Make singing possibly the strongest woman in Doctor Who
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  when faced with danger. She grabs a shotgun.
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  I heard in some low-rent on Cass.
• 25:54
  Someone's just, let's use the precursor room, Jackie, Tyler.
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  Oh, wow. I think I know which podcast
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  you're talking about. I think you might be doing here.
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  No, the educated person who said that.
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  Oh this place where he's like, shoes shoes.
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  Yes. So, we've had all the coherent
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  dialogue, going to get the doctor in this story.
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  Now, this episode rather shoe the jumper way is fairly like,
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  in retrospect, fairly scathing about this first episode.
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  He's like, you know, there's all these comedy routines with a
• 26:34
  wheelchair and, and, and he didn't want to lean into that
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  all know. But, again, the wheelchair well,
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  it's a bit of a comedy, the actual second part of that,
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  where he's going down a fairly It's not that steeper slope but
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  he's going to fear case it doesn't become threatening and I
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  believe that they were keen on John's background in.
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  Comedy are two potential source of making the stories bit more
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  interesting. The same way.
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  Zach, you're tracking also use these comedic skills.
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  Do you imagine they live? If sure we had stayed on the
• 27:12
  Barry Letts hadn't had taken over that they were, he would
• 27:16
  have been a more comedic doctor. Perhaps, but I think what we
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  actually have here is the most pure form of what they thought
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  doctors would be after the new format because we do have
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  children as the producer David. I had the scripted as a before
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  when Bryant Lefty got shifted up to the producer and this is the
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  only story he produced in that the between area.
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  Now, we have more shiny skin people It was very see the, the
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  blanket before an over the camera.
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  That's such a clever way of showing what's going on.
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  It is a very inventive direction of this.
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  Oh, it is very good. Again, there's not much money.
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  They just stuck with what they've got in the hospital and
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  we get to see this Corridor all the time.
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  So, okay, we certainly have a sense of place.
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  Oh, great, the music and this scene is like dirt.
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  It's really funny. And now I'm gonna say it.
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  As Terrance dicks always, says, you can always tell where you
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  are in the Pertwee era by the level of his bouffant hair cut.
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  Yes, and it is very restrained here.
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  It's off, we go. This is a busy episode yes and
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  it's mostly humans interacting with humans.
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  Yeah the chaining and his henchmen.
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  Don't do much doctors, mostly unconscious and now, he's
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  escaped. But okay, so I whilst this is a
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  very good Cliffhanger. I think the editing here is off.
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  Yeah, because the guy just screaming, you know who told you
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  to fire you should it just feels a bit awkward like it's good as
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  in the doctors been shot for that's effective.
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  I don't know if that's well well done or not.
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  Yeah, so here we are at the end of episode 1.
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  And it was a good episode and Malcolm Thomas.
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  Yeah, that was named Justin. Well, you've got something very
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  interesting to say and I will say it for episode 2, but about
• 29:49
  episode 2 and episode once, but like on his own terms that is
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  almost like the default. This is what they go back to.
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  This is what they lead into when they are like a bit stuck.
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  They do a bit of this in the TV movie.
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  I think they do a bit of. This is why The Mystery of the
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  doctor which is big in this they do.
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  There's definitely Rose, isn't it?
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  That's definitely the TV movie. Yes.
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  Andros was very good in taking it from one person's
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  perspective, not the doctors. You can absolutely see why they
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  invited terrorist acts and Barry Letts along to that screening of
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  roads like they were like, hey, this is this is all story.
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  What's going on? Daring will be back for episode
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  2. Daring will be back for episode
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  2.