Latest / Trojan Marching Banter: The Official Podcast of The Spirit of Troy / Episode 102 · Hot Games, Gigs, and Takes
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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: Good morning, folks, and welcome in to KTMB's TM Banter.
- 0:05SPEAKER_00: Do we have an exciting show for you today or what?
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: We've got talks about the game.
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: We've got talks about the gigs.
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: We did an Angels game on Sunday, and guess what?
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: Somebody got left behind at the stadium.
- 0:17SPEAKER_00: So stay tuned to find out as you tune into Trojan Marching Banter.
- 0:32SPEAKER_00: Alright, now we're in the show.
- 0:33SPEAKER_00: We are in it to win it.
- 0:35SPEAKER_00: What a doozy of a game on Friday.
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: Hot, hot, hot game.
- 0:39SPEAKER_00: And later today, maybe we'll give you some hot takes as well.
- 0:42SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, it was a fun game.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: Trojans win.
- 0:45SPEAKER_00: Everybody loves a Trojan victory, so I think we can all be we can all be pleased that that's what was going on.
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: And uh yeah, we're gonna talk a little bit of shows today, talk about pregame, halftime, what went on, and how we uh how we liked it all.
- 0:58SPEAKER_00: But uh I don't want to just yammer the whole time.
- 1:00SPEAKER_00: Let's go ahead and bring in bring in the man of the hour.
- 1:04SPEAKER_00: Please welcome to the stage, Mr.
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: Dante Douglas, everybody.
- 1:07SPEAKER_00: Woo!
- 1:08SPEAKER_01: Yo, good morning, good people.
- 1:10SPEAKER_00: How you doing, man?
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: How are things?
- 1:12SPEAKER_01: I'm good, I'm good.
- 1:13SPEAKER_00: So uh I guess we'll get right into it.
- 1:16SPEAKER_00: How was the uh how was the game from how were the shows from your perspective as our our drill rider?
- 1:21SPEAKER_00: What did you like?
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: What'd you dig?
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: How'd it go?
- 1:23SPEAKER_01: I think it went well.
- 1:24SPEAKER_01: Uh everything that I expected.
- 1:26SPEAKER_01: Uh we got it done in a short amount of time, a good amount of time, and so the show reflected that.
- 1:31SPEAKER_01: Uh got a chance to watch the high cam that Brett sent over, and you know, very pleased with it.
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: Cool.
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: What um so I know you put some stuff in the drill.
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: We can uh you know what I can do?
- 1:41SPEAKER_00: I can do this.
- 1:42SPEAKER_00: We can bam Yahtzee and we can go ahead and look at so right now I've got the uh I've got the show on screen.
- 1:49SPEAKER_00: You can't see what I'm looking at, I guess.
- 1:52SPEAKER_00: But I got the show on there.
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: But uh the beginning of the drill, you really it really seemed that you mirrored it to what we do in pregame.
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: Do you want to talk a little bit about sort of the first part of the drill and what your strategy for that was?
- 2:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a lot of it came from uh I was inspired by the Tusk and America the Beautiful drill.
- 2:08SPEAKER_01: We're in those four-step intervals.
- 2:11SPEAKER_01: And so uh harping in on that and kind of doubling down on that, I thought the introduction could mirror that.
- 2:16SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 2:16SPEAKER_01: And since we've been working on that eight to five moving in the block, four-step interval, I decided to do it at the front part of the drill.
- 2:23SPEAKER_01: Um, and then just kind of bring that into a rotation, uh fan belt motion.
- 2:27SPEAKER_01: Um kind of great way to eat up time.
- 2:30SPEAKER_01: You know, it's a secret uh to drill design.
- 2:32SPEAKER_00: Secret of the trade, chew up time, yeah.
- 2:35SPEAKER_01: And so we did that, and I think it worked out well and took that box form and then uh resolved it to a curvilinear form to get it out of the monotony of square.
- 2:44SPEAKER_00: Being in boxes the whole time.
- 2:45SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I love a good fan belt because yeah, it does chew up time, but obviously for learning and mechanics, like this is something people can recognize, right?
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: They see the band going one way, going the other way, and uh and really, really clue it in.
- 2:58SPEAKER_00: I'm running running the fan belt right now.
- 3:00SPEAKER_00: Great for me to get get on people about spacing, like, hey, make sure you're margining eight to five, you know, and hitting those hitting those corners.
- 3:07SPEAKER_00: Um, but you did have the drums and tubas and quite quite the rotation in the middle.
- 3:12SPEAKER_00: What was the what was the inspiration for that?
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: Having them spin around in that circle.
- 3:16SPEAKER_01: Uh that was to break monotony of sometimes we do elevator drill.
- 3:19SPEAKER_01: It comes later, but at least I had them in the central location.
- 3:23SPEAKER_01: So instead of just going up and down, up and down, I thought uh a circular motion would be a good traveling of sound as well.
- 3:30SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's cool.
- 3:31SPEAKER_00: And for those who don't know, like with dr because you were a drummer.
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm sure you marched a lot of elevator drill in your life in the drum line.
- 3:38SPEAKER_00: You know, what what is how would you describe elevator drill to like the normie out there listening?
- 3:43SPEAKER_01: It is literally what it is.
- 3:44SPEAKER_01: You probably get put on a yard line and you ride that yard line up and down while the band is doing other things, yeah, keeping that sound, that bass, and that drum center.
- 3:53SPEAKER_01: It just allows you to go up and down, you know, weird elevator go left or right, but you know, up and down is mostly what you're doing.
- 4:00SPEAKER_01: And if you check out the show a little later, uh they're kind of doing that in uh the elevator drill, you know, up and down.
- 4:07SPEAKER_00: Up and down.
- 4:07SPEAKER_00: And for you as a percussion, like was that easier to learn or harder to learn?
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: Is it like wait, are we going forward back on this?
- 4:15SPEAKER_00: Like, how is that learning from that standpoint?
- 4:18SPEAKER_01: It can become confusing if it's done for too long because you don't know where you are, especially in uh not quite performing, but in a uh a rehearsal setting where it's like go to page this, go to page this, and it's like, wait, am I up?
- 4:32SPEAKER_01: Am I down?
- 4:32SPEAKER_01: Am I up?
- 4:33SPEAKER_01: Am I down?
- 4:33SPEAKER_01: So it becomes confusing then.
- 4:35SPEAKER_01: But when you put it together with the music, you kind of get an idea of what it feels like.
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: So got it, got it.
- 4:41SPEAKER_00: And then so we hit this curvilinear form that then resolves in on itself.
- 4:46SPEAKER_00: Um but then this cool concert set you built um for that we used for the ending of Ain't It Fun.
- 4:53SPEAKER_00: And then we we carried in through that for still into you.
- 4:57SPEAKER_00: Um when you're designing a set like that, like how what do you do?
- 5:00SPEAKER_00: What's in your mind to make sure that the band just sounds as strong and as powerful as possible in those standstills?
- 5:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's cool.
- 5:07SPEAKER_01: That is the first thing there.
- 5:09SPEAKER_01: The sound is the key there.
- 5:10SPEAKER_01: I know we're gonna be parking it for a long time, so I think about placement of instruments is definitely gonna be the key.
- 5:15SPEAKER_01: Um, and that is built for power as well.
- 5:18SPEAKER_01: So there's the trumpets down in that bottom core hugging the 50.
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: Then there are the trombones creating this uh chord.
- 5:24SPEAKER_01: You think about the chords that trombones play, they stack.
- 5:27SPEAKER_01: So I created that line across, and then our mellows are really heavy because of our traditional conquest, they're used to cutting through the band.
- 5:33SPEAKER_01: So normally uh I wouldn't put horns behind the trombones, but with the way we play, they can cut right through that that brassy, straightforward sound.
- 5:41SPEAKER_01: And then the woodwinds are just winged on the side of that to create some stereo sound of the elements and allows them to breathe as well.
- 5:48SPEAKER_01: Because if they're too close, you can't hear them sometimes.
- 5:50SPEAKER_01: So when you space them out, it allows them to breathe.
- 5:53SPEAKER_01: Um and so and the percussion and two is a lot right in in the center.
- 5:56SPEAKER_01: And then we have our two feature groups, and so with song and spirit, I create the sound in the middle and then allow them to be uh a visual component on the outside there.
- 6:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's and I think from what it looks like, the brass are locked in between the 30s, right?
- 6:12SPEAKER_00: Or even the 35s.
- 6:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 6:15SPEAKER_00: And so it's that uh who is uh the the Bill Moffitt, the sound power, you know, just really drive it down the center.
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: But yeah, then we get our spirit groups, the silks are integrated in the formation, which is which is really cool.
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: It's always fun to have that visual element in there.
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: But then we get out of that and then we crank it into misery business, right?
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: And we're we're really ripping through this.
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: Um, what were some of your thoughts on sort of maintaining that power and then resolving into ultimately the paramour spell out at the end?
- 6:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was cool too, because I wrote this one backwards.
- 6:49SPEAKER_01: Um, so I had set nine and then I went to Paramour.
- 6:53SPEAKER_01: And so I thought about what is it gonna take?
- 6:55SPEAKER_01: How long do I have to take?
- 6:56SPEAKER_01: I create the GPS, uh, how long do I have to take to get there?
- 7:00SPEAKER_01: And then I think about moments.
- 7:02SPEAKER_01: Uh there's gonna be another hole, so I think about how I get another visual moment in there before the paramore.
- 7:07SPEAKER_01: Um, but that brass is still stacked in the center.
- 7:10SPEAKER_01: And then we have this form where everybody's in a two-step interval in set nine in that whole set.
- 7:15SPEAKER_01: And so the feel is kind of not visual in a sense.
- 7:18SPEAKER_01: Everything, every bit of space is taken up on a two-step interval.
- 7:22SPEAKER_01: So I think about how do I now get the eye to go from seeing this to now seeing this.
- 7:28SPEAKER_01: And so that's the whole premises of the straight lines to kind of allow you to see more of the feel, like, whoa, there's the feel kind of idea.
- 7:35SPEAKER_00: Uh so I'm running the video right now.
- 7:37SPEAKER_00: So we have this this sort of interlocking diamond set, right?
- 7:41SPEAKER_00: That's that standstill you were talking about, that two-step spacing.
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: And then you resolve that.
- 7:46SPEAKER_00: That's what's running into these cool company fronts.
- 7:48SPEAKER_00: And I know you were very excited because these company fronts hit and then they all turn, and there was supposed to be a flash of gold, but alas, no capes for us this Saturday.
- 7:57SPEAKER_01: Just a red shirt.
- 7:58SPEAKER_00: Just the we got to see the back of their red shirt.
- 8:01SPEAKER_00: Um, but I really liked this moment because it really allowed the woodwind sound to kind of come out, um, especially right there.
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: We could really hear the woodwind sound coming over the top because the horns were backfield supporting them, right?
- 8:16SPEAKER_00: And then we get into that that paramore um that paramour resolution.
- 8:21SPEAKER_00: And it just it looked really cool, very stylized, and then we did a push at the end, and they're dancing and it's chaos on the field.
- 8:27SPEAKER_00: But all in all, great drill.
- 8:29SPEAKER_00: Congrats, Mr.
- 8:30SPEAKER_00: Douglas.
- 8:30SPEAKER_00: Great drill, great drill.
- 8:31SPEAKER_01: Thanks, man.
- 8:32SPEAKER_01: Thanks, thanks.
- 8:32SPEAKER_01: It was a lot of fun.
- 8:34SPEAKER_00: They did.
- 8:34SPEAKER_00: They did a really given the heat and everything else, I think they did a wonderful job.
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: So let's let's hear some of these excerpts, yeah?
- 8:41SPEAKER_00: Here and watch all together.
- 8:43SPEAKER_00: Uh so we had the opening.
- 8:46SPEAKER_00: Uh why don't we hear, you want to sort of hear the transition into that curvilinear impact moment?
- 8:51SPEAKER_00: How's that sound?
- 8:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 8:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's do it.
- 8:54SPEAKER_00: So this is uh, ain't it fun?
- 8:56SPEAKER_00: Get a little snippet of this.
- 8:57SPEAKER_00: This is as the band is arriving into this curvilinear set.
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: We really challenged a band.
- 9:02SPEAKER_00: We had to march 14 steps and spread so they could breathe, you know, 14 stop, breathe, and rip on the pickup.
- 9:10SPEAKER_00: So let's see how they did.
- 9:11SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
- 9:11SPEAKER_00: Here it here it comes.
- 9:55SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's got it.
- 9:56SPEAKER_00: It's got some juice to it.
- 9:58SPEAKER_00: Right, and then still into you had some gas on it, yeah?
- 10:03SPEAKER_00: Why don't we hear a little bit of that, huh?
- 10:06SPEAKER_00: So this is me, this is me guessing on the scroll, like where are we gonna land?
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: Still into you.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: Let's see, let's see where this takes us.
- 10:51SPEAKER_00: I think that we hear what you're talking about, right?
- 10:55SPEAKER_00: Is that now, like the difference, that first concert set were wider apart, right?
- 10:59SPEAKER_00: And the drums and tubas are down the center.
- 11:01SPEAKER_00: But now this one, now that they're all stacked on top of each other, right?
- 11:04SPEAKER_00: The core of the sound is really, really cooking with gas pretty hard, yeah?
- 11:09SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
- 11:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's great.
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: Great form.
- 11:12SPEAKER_00: Good stuff.
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: A plus, Mr.
- 11:14SPEAKER_00: D.
- 11:14SPEAKER_00: A plus.
- 11:15SPEAKER_00: Thanks.
- 11:16SPEAKER_00: And then let's see, let's hear a little bit of a little bit of misery business.
- 11:19SPEAKER_00: Let's catch this moment.
- 11:20SPEAKER_00: So, where we were supposed to have the gold flash, right?
- 11:23SPEAKER_00: And I talked about how, you know, how nice the woodwinds were sounding.
- 11:26SPEAKER_00: But then uh I think right here we should, we should be able to hear them pretty clearly, hopefully.
- 11:32SPEAKER_00: We'll see, we'll see what the mics pick up.
- 11:33SPEAKER_00: But that's the that's what I'm gonna hit on next.
- 12:16SPEAKER_00: And then we're right back in it.
- 12:17SPEAKER_00: People are playing electric guitar, the drums are cranking, tubas are going.
- 12:21SPEAKER_00: It works, it's a show.
- 12:24SPEAKER_01: It was a bop.
- 12:25SPEAKER_00: It was a bop.
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: It was a bop for sure.
- 12:27SPEAKER_00: So uh thank you, Mr.
- 12:28SPEAKER_00: Douglas, for uh putting that cool drill together on that show, huh?
- 12:34SPEAKER_01: It still worked out.
- 12:35SPEAKER_01: You know, I was a little ambitious with our early numbers, so I had to make some edits there, but it it worked out great without uh um messing with the integrity of the initial design, so it was cool.
- 12:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 12:47SPEAKER_00: And for we say it's a one-week show, but we really got to dig into it during camp, right?
- 12:53SPEAKER_00: And I think how much of it we almost got it all under our feet-ish during camp, yeah.
- 12:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah, about 80% was under our feet at the end of camp.
- 13:02SPEAKER_00: All right, let's let's hear from the uh the the behind the scenes folks.
- 13:06SPEAKER_00: Uh Brett, what did you what did you think of the uh of the show?
- 13:11SPEAKER_02: I thought it sounded great for a first week show.
- 13:13SPEAKER_02: I mean, we already one of the songs, Misery Business, we already kind of had in the in the book, but uh I thought overall it sounded great and and looked good too, but um I I was impressed for uh a one-week show and a hundred and three degree weather.
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: Is that what it was on the field?
- 13:30SPEAKER_00: 103?
- 13:31SPEAKER_02: Well, it was a h I think it was 103 with the humidity uh factored in.
- 13:36SPEAKER_00: Uh, I see.
- 13:36SPEAKER_00: KC, what did you uh did you watch the video, KC?
- 13:39SPEAKER_00: Did you get a chance to check it out?
- 13:42SPEAKER_03: It sounded great on television, that's for sure.
- 13:46SPEAKER_00: It sounded great on television.
- 13:48SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 13:49SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 13:49SPEAKER_00: Well, very cool, very cool.
- 13:51SPEAKER_00: Uh, we got that was a fun experiment with our KC and Brett stickers.
- 13:55SPEAKER_00: I flew them in.
- 13:56SPEAKER_00: They just appeared out of nowhere uh into the show.
- 13:59SPEAKER_00: So that's a lot of fun.
- 14:00SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, great, great game.
- 14:03SPEAKER_00: We won.
- 14:03SPEAKER_00: It's always fun to win.
- 14:05SPEAKER_00: Students did a great job.
- 14:06SPEAKER_00: They stayed high, mostly stayed hydrated, and we got through it.
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: We did all right um in terms of sort of the health and well-being and all that jazz.
- 14:13SPEAKER_00: But because we're us, we had other stuff going on.
- 14:16SPEAKER_00: We had gigs, we had tons of gigs uh all weekend long, so a little behind the scenes of us.
- 14:22SPEAKER_00: So Friday, we finished rehearsal, and as soon as we finished rehearsal, uh, we found ourselves once again at the Hollywood Bowl as the opening act for uh for David Byrne.
- 14:34SPEAKER_00: And uh and that was a lot of fun.
- 14:35SPEAKER_00: Brett, you were there with me.
- 14:36SPEAKER_00: So, Brett, why don't you uh you mind giving us a little color commentary?
- 14:40SPEAKER_00: What was that?
- 14:41SPEAKER_00: How did that gig come across for you?
- 14:42SPEAKER_00: What was it like?
- 14:44SPEAKER_02: Uh it sounded pretty good.
- 14:46SPEAKER_02: And the band was mic'd uh on stage, uh, I think just kind of area mics, right?
- 14:51SPEAKER_02: Because we didn't really have a sound check.
- 14:53SPEAKER_02: Uh we did not.
- 14:54SPEAKER_02: It sounded great.
- 14:55SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 14:55SPEAKER_00: They wanted one.
- 14:56SPEAKER_00: I I met with the audio guys, I think, at one in the afternoon, and I'm like, uh, yeah, the and they're like, okay, when are you guys coming?
- 15:02SPEAKER_00: I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: You gotta you're doing this live.
- 15:05SPEAKER_00: So people do it live.
- 15:07SPEAKER_00: Do it live.
- 15:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 15:09SPEAKER_02: Uh uh, I thought it uh the I the the biggest problem with the nice thing was that the stage was kind of uh push forward for David Byrne, right?
- 15:17SPEAKER_02: And had kind of wings on it, so the band didn't look ridiculously small, uh, because it was only a 40 piece on the on stage.
- 15:26SPEAKER_02: Um but I mean we had great response from the crowd and it was sold out.
- 15:30SPEAKER_02: It was I could see it all the way back up into the hills, people were there.
- 15:33SPEAKER_02: Um and I think you know, once we started playing nine to five, uh you know, they they appreciated the crowd went kind of kind of crazy for that.
- 15:42SPEAKER_00: That was Brett, listen.
- 15:44SPEAKER_00: Every once in again you have a great idea.
- 15:47SPEAKER_00: And uh the nine to five was a great idea.
- 15:50SPEAKER_00: I know.
- 15:53SPEAKER_00: Uh but you're right, it was um we started playing it, and it took I think there was one lady right in the front who she got it like by measure two.
- 16:02SPEAKER_00: She was like, oh, this is nine to five, and just started screaming right behind my head.
- 16:06SPEAKER_00: And then I I want to say it was it's like when that bass line picked up it on bum bum bum.
- 16:13SPEAKER_00: And then, you know, the people out in the house got it, and they're it it was pandemonium fridge here.
- 16:19SPEAKER_00: It was just all how many, what's capacity?
- 16:21SPEAKER_00: 20, 25,000, something like that.
- 16:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I have no idea actually.
- 16:25SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: I but they they were just screaming, and I could see it was fun looking at the faces of the students, just like, oh, listen to that, we're rock stars here yelling at us.
- 16:34SPEAKER_00: So that was uh that was really cool.
- 16:36SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it was it went really well, I thought, you know, and we came straight basically, we ended rehearsal, uh, got on the bus and went there and did the gig.
- 16:44SPEAKER_00: Uh and then we did the same thing Saturday night.
- 16:47SPEAKER_00: Uh uh, we finished the game and then a couple hours later got on the bus and did the gig.
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: Um, I did not do night two.
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: Brett, did you do night two?
- 16:56SPEAKER_00: I did not, it was all Ben Chua.
- 16:58SPEAKER_00: It was all thank you, Ben Shua.
- 16:59SPEAKER_00: Shout out to Ben Chua.
- 17:00SPEAKER_00: This is where we need that, those sound effects, Casey.
- 17:02SPEAKER_00: We need like a to get Ben all hyped up.
- 17:06SPEAKER_00: Uh, because he does everything.
- 17:08SPEAKER_00: He does literally all the gigs all the time.
- 17:11SPEAKER_00: And so we're we're very appreciative of him uh uh carrying the weight on that one.
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: But really fun, kind of uh a little bit unhinged.
- 17:18SPEAKER_00: We didn't really know what we were doing until we got there.
- 17:20SPEAKER_00: But nice.
- 17:23SPEAKER_00: There it is.
- 17:24SPEAKER_00: Let's try this again.
- 17:25SPEAKER_00: Let's reset.
- 17:26SPEAKER_00: Here, we'll take it from one again, but leave this all in.
- 17:28SPEAKER_00: This is good stuff.
- 17:29SPEAKER_00: Uh let's hear it out.
- 17:31SPEAKER_00: Let's hear it for Ben.
- 17:31SPEAKER_00: Chew everybody.
- 17:36SPEAKER_00: Nice killer.
- 17:37SPEAKER_00: Good job.
- 17:37SPEAKER_00: Good job, team.
- 17:38SPEAKER_00: Way to go.
- 17:39SPEAKER_00: We got it.
- 17:39SPEAKER_00: Morning radio show.
- 17:40SPEAKER_02: Yeah, TMB morning zoo here.
- 17:42SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 17:44SPEAKER_00: Whoa.
- 17:45SPEAKER_00: Um David Byrne, Hollywood Bowl.
- 17:49SPEAKER_00: And um, it was funny when they reached out about that gig.
- 17:52SPEAKER_00: I just I really enjoy, or I think it's important that we the TMB are sort of the resident marching band of the Hollywood Bowl.
- 17:58SPEAKER_00: We've now done uh the Tchaikovsky Spectacular Forever.
- 18:01SPEAKER_00: We performed with AJR and Mr.
- 18:03SPEAKER_00: D, you were on that gig thing, right?
- 18:06SPEAKER_01: I was, yeah, that was cool.
- 18:07SPEAKER_00: That was a lot of fun.
- 18:08SPEAKER_00: That one though is a bigger band, right?
- 18:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was.
- 18:12SPEAKER_01: It was 40 plus some stuff, yeah.
- 18:14SPEAKER_01: It was a bit chunky, almost 60, something like that.
- 18:17SPEAKER_01: 60, 70.
- 18:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a couple couple of buses worth, and then some of the students were big AJR fans, so I'm sure they were just geeked to be there, right?
- 18:24SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, when we were rehearsing, when they were rehearsing, we were standing in the back, they tried to get as close to the gate as possible to enjoy the moment.
- 18:32SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
- 18:32SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
- 18:33SPEAKER_00: Uh, but yeah, so I just I I love that relationship we have with the bull, with the LA Phil, and just whenever they need something, we you know, we try to make it happen.
- 18:41SPEAKER_00: We have had Tchaikovsky spectaculars on game days.
- 18:44SPEAKER_00: I haven't had one yet, but I remember Brett, do you remember the last time we had one of those?
- 18:49SPEAKER_02: Uh I pretty wasn't it was it not post-pandemic?
- 18:52SPEAKER_02: No, but we had Bandcamp.
- 18:53SPEAKER_02: Then then it was just oh, then it was just pre-pandemic.
- 18:56SPEAKER_02: I think we had one where people just left after halftime.
- 18:59SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 18:59SPEAKER_02: Yeah and went straight to the bowl.
- 19:01SPEAKER_02: I think that was like 2019 or 2018.
- 19:03SPEAKER_00: Yeah, fair recent-ish.
- 19:05SPEAKER_00: Uh hey, Dr.
- 19:06SPEAKER_00: B, if you're out there, get in the comments and uh let us know.
- 19:11SPEAKER_02: He just had his birthday yesterday, by the way.
- 19:13SPEAKER_00: His birthday, that's right, him and Lee Carlson.
- 19:16SPEAKER_00: Happy birthday, gentlemen.
- 19:18SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, I saw somebody repo, I think Jan Berkeley, maybe somebody reposted his uh the uh drive-by birthday greetings from during the pandemic.
- 19:28SPEAKER_00: Because that was his 80th, right?
- 19:30SPEAKER_00: I think maybe.
- 19:31SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 19:32SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
- 19:33SPEAKER_00: What what a good time, what a fantastic time.
- 19:35SPEAKER_00: So, of course, because we're the TMB and we didn't have enough to do between a really hot game and then two gigs at the Hollywood Bowl Friday, Saturday.
- 19:45SPEAKER_00: We also made our way to Angel Stadium on Sunday.
- 19:49SPEAKER_00: Uh, unfortunately, um, the Angels were toppled by the Phillies.
- 19:53SPEAKER_00: Um, so as Jeff said, we are 0-2 for USC Days at Angel Stadium, but maybe we'll be there.
- 19:58SPEAKER_00: Good luck charm in the near future.
- 20:01SPEAKER_00: Uh, we did our pregame set, we did the national anthem.
- 20:03SPEAKER_00: That was all great, that was all fine.
- 20:05SPEAKER_00: But the highlight of the day was Dante Douglas throwing out the first pitch.
- 20:09SPEAKER_00: Holy smokes! Oh yay! So, how was that?
- 20:13SPEAKER_00: You so they they gave you like the escort treatment.
- 20:16SPEAKER_00: You got to go and like get snatched up and taken away.
- 20:19SPEAKER_00: So, what what was it like?
- 20:20SPEAKER_00: Tell us about your experience, throwing out the first pitch.
- 20:22SPEAKER_01: Oh man, it was cool, man.
- 20:24SPEAKER_01: Um just being you don't realize what the moment is until you're in the moment.
- 20:28SPEAKER_01: Uh pro sports, um, on the field, doing uh honorarium kind of thing, and it was it was I wasn't I didn't realize it until it happened, like, oh I just did that, you know, kind of thing.
- 20:41SPEAKER_01: So it was it was awesome.
- 20:43SPEAKER_01: Like uh and then on a USC day, you know, you can feel the Trojan spirit inside the venue like that when you guys played in the Rose Garden all the way to the moment, you know.
- 20:53SPEAKER_01: Uh even folks like wanted the hat.
- 20:54SPEAKER_01: They were like, hey, where's the hat?
- 20:56SPEAKER_01: Like uh Tyler had to tell them, like, no, this is last year's thing, and so just to have the whole USC angels fit on was pretty cool as well.
- 21:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and um you had Marie out there with you.
- 21:08SPEAKER_00: What was her take?
- 21:10SPEAKER_00: What'd she say?
- 21:11SPEAKER_01: Oh, she enjoyed it.
- 21:12SPEAKER_01: Uh there's a video she can't probably can't even share it because she's just screaming all over it.
- 21:19SPEAKER_00: It's her filming you.
- 21:21SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 21:22SPEAKER_00: Could you hear her screaming at you when you were throwing?
- 21:25SPEAKER_01: No, it's surprising, like I couldn't hear the drums.
- 21:28SPEAKER_01: I guess that's just me locking in, kind of zoning out.
- 21:31SPEAKER_01: I couldn't quite hear anything.
- 21:33SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 21:34SPEAKER_01: Um, but it was it was a moment.
- 21:36SPEAKER_01: It was absolutely cool.
- 21:37SPEAKER_00: In a fast pitch, Brett, you you said you clocked it.
- 21:40SPEAKER_00: What was the speed on it?
- 21:42SPEAKER_02: I was told that the uh by that the the people watching that it was fifty miles per hour, you know.
- 21:48SPEAKER_02: So you might strike out somebody with that one.
- 21:52SPEAKER_00: Yep, one day.
- 21:53SPEAKER_00: One day, but a little a little a little inside, so for sure right handed batter that you know maybe.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: Maybe you know what it was?
- 22:01SPEAKER_00: I think they were talking trash, and then you wanted to remind them who's who's hucking the ball, right?
- 22:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it was pretty cool though to be cold.
- 22:09SPEAKER_01: That was a cold, no warm-up.
- 22:10SPEAKER_01: Brett gave me the ball like a couple of days ago.
- 22:12SPEAKER_01: I never threw it, but okay.
- 22:13SPEAKER_01: So I think a first shot cold.
- 22:15SPEAKER_01: I mean, far left, we'll take it.
- 22:16SPEAKER_00: You nailed it, dude.
- 22:17SPEAKER_00: You nailed it.
- 22:18SPEAKER_00: I loved it.
- 22:18SPEAKER_00: I loved it.
- 22:19SPEAKER_00: Um how'd you feel go?
- 22:21SPEAKER_00: How'd you feel going into it?
- 22:22SPEAKER_00: Like, what was the last thought in your head before you hocked that ball over there?
- 22:27SPEAKER_01: The last thought was it can't fall short.
- 22:31SPEAKER_01: That was the last thought.
- 22:33SPEAKER_00: And it did not.
- 22:34SPEAKER_00: You made it.
- 22:35SPEAKER_00: You made it.
- 22:36SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to think.
- 22:37SPEAKER_00: Mine was probably 30 miles an hour.
- 22:40SPEAKER_00: All I had, all the entire run-up, Brett was like, Don't throw it too hard.
- 22:44SPEAKER_00: Don't throw it too hard.
- 22:45SPEAKER_00: And so that's what that was my last thought when I did it.
- 22:48SPEAKER_00: Um, but also, I mean, you you looked a lot cooler because you were in the outfit.
- 22:53SPEAKER_00: I was in the red coat, you know.
- 22:55SPEAKER_01: So uh that was a better opportunity to be in that versus a red coat for sure.
- 23:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 23:02SPEAKER_00: They told me to take take the coat off.
- 23:04SPEAKER_00: I'm like, no, like if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna just do the do it.
- 23:08SPEAKER_00: But then I had something to blame, right?
- 23:09SPEAKER_00: Like if I buried it in the dirt, I could be like, uh, the whistle.
- 23:13SPEAKER_00: You know?
- 23:14SPEAKER_01: Excuse provided.
- 23:16SPEAKER_00: That's right.
- 23:16SPEAKER_00: But I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad you got to do it.
- 23:18SPEAKER_00: It was super fun watching you come out there and hear everyone cheer for you.
- 23:21SPEAKER_00: That was awesome.
- 23:21SPEAKER_00: So congrats.
- 23:22SPEAKER_01: It was an awesome experience.
- 23:23SPEAKER_01: You know, thanks for everybody behind the scenes making it happen.
- 23:26SPEAKER_01: I really appreciate it for sure.
- 23:28SPEAKER_00: And uh so now I don't know what we'll do.
- 23:30SPEAKER_00: Who next time?
- 23:30SPEAKER_00: We'll have KC throw the opening pitch next time.
- 23:33SPEAKER_00: What do you think, KC?
- 23:36SPEAKER_03: Get ready for a 12 mile an hour grounder.
- 23:39SPEAKER_00: Nice, nice.
- 23:40SPEAKER_00: You bullish strike, you bullish strike.
- 23:42SPEAKER_00: But that was that was the event-filled weekend rehearsal and jock rally on Friday.
- 23:46SPEAKER_00: Oh, our first jock rally at the Bloom Center, which was a lot of fun.
- 23:50SPEAKER_00: Um gosh, and then we had Hollywood Bowl game, Hollywood Bowl, Angels.
- 23:55SPEAKER_00: So now looking ahead this weekend, it's actually pretty easy.
- 23:58SPEAKER_00: We've got a game on Friday, and then Saturday and Sunday, we're just kind of hanging out, not doing much.
- 24:03SPEAKER_00: So this will be a nice breath of fresh air.
- 24:06SPEAKER_01: For sure.
- 24:06SPEAKER_00: For sure.
- 24:07SPEAKER_00: All right, so uh this concludes the recap of the weekend.
- 24:11SPEAKER_00: Brett, anything else you want to add that we missed?
- 24:15SPEAKER_02: No, but uh I you you might want to tell everybody who got left at Angel Stadium.
- 24:21SPEAKER_00: You're right.
- 24:22SPEAKER_00: I did tease that at the start.
- 24:24SPEAKER_00: Somebody got left behind.
- 24:26SPEAKER_00: Uh, they missed the buses.
- 24:28SPEAKER_00: And um my son, my dear darling son Declan, um, we were there.
- 24:34SPEAKER_00: There were some folks, uh, some folks from our church came.
- 24:37SPEAKER_00: They came and brought a whole crew.
- 24:39SPEAKER_00: So we were sitting with them, and then one of them goes, Hey, on Sundays, the kids can run the bases at the end of the game.
- 24:44SPEAKER_00: I said, Great.
- 24:45SPEAKER_00: Who wants to do it?
- 24:46SPEAKER_00: Erlen's like, no, thank you.
- 24:48SPEAKER_00: Hayden said, no.
- 24:50SPEAKER_00: But Declan's like, I'm in, in hard.
- 24:53SPEAKER_00: And so we go, so it was me and two other dads and our boys, and we go out there, and uh, we got there at the uh the top, right at the transition from the top to the bottom of the eighth, and then we stood outside in the sun all the way until the game ended, and probably a good 20 minutes after the game ended, waiting to run these bases.
- 25:14SPEAKER_00: So we get out there, and boy, let me tell you, Declan, he he cooked around those bases.
- 25:19SPEAKER_00: He just he focused, he had the arms going, and uh, he had the time of his life, and and bless the bigger boys, he beat the bigger boys in the race around the bases.
- 25:29SPEAKER_00: So uh I don't know what kind of input they had on that, but thank you boys for letting for letting Declan finish first.
- 25:35SPEAKER_00: But uh it was great.
- 25:36SPEAKER_00: It was hot, it was miserable, then I was cranky.
- 25:39SPEAKER_00: I'd not been cranky all day, but after that I was cranky.
- 25:41SPEAKER_00: I'm like, we gotta get out of here.
- 25:42SPEAKER_00: And then my phone rings.
- 25:44SPEAKER_00: And you know who was on the other side of the phone.
- 25:46SPEAKER_00: You do you know who got left behind at Angel Stadium?
- 25:50SPEAKER_00: Does anyone want to wager a guess?
- 25:52SPEAKER_00: Casey.
- 25:52SPEAKER_02: You know, I think we should have have a drum roll here to announce it.
- 25:57SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
- 25:59SPEAKER_00: It was Tad Carpenter got left behind.
- 26:02SPEAKER_00: Shucks.
- 26:07SPEAKER_00: So I get a call from Tad.
- 26:08SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what's up, man?
- 26:09SPEAKER_00: He's like, hey, I'm out where the buses were and they're not here.
- 26:12SPEAKER_00: I'm like, hmm, okay.
- 26:15SPEAKER_00: Like, well, do you see a minivan?
- 26:16SPEAKER_00: He goes, yeah.
- 26:17SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, just hang out by the minivan.
- 26:19SPEAKER_00: So poor dad was trapped in the parking lot sitting in the shade of the minivan.
- 26:24SPEAKER_00: And uh, but it was great.
- 26:26SPEAKER_00: We drove, I drove him, we went to my house first, and he and the baby had a long conversation about percussion um all the way home.
- 26:35SPEAKER_00: And then I drove Tad back, not to his home, but back to campus, because that's where his car was.
- 26:40SPEAKER_00: So uh I managed to get, we got home and I managed to get back and forth with Tad, I think, in an hour and 20 minutes, maybe even a little bit less.
- 26:50SPEAKER_00: It was really fast.
- 26:51SPEAKER_00: I made it back in time for dinner with the kids.
- 26:53SPEAKER_00: So uh I'm glad I was there.
- 26:55SPEAKER_01: Not bad for LA timing, not bad at all.
- 26:58SPEAKER_00: But Tad was very apologetic, and I said, Tad, it's not your fault.
- 27:01SPEAKER_00: If it's anyone's fault, it's Keldrick's fault.
- 27:03SPEAKER_00: Because Keldrick should have known that Tad wasn't on the bus.
- 27:06SPEAKER_00: And I think Keldrick told Tad, Oh, I thought you were on another bus.
- 27:10SPEAKER_00: So there's that.
- 27:11SPEAKER_00: Or uh maybe Andrew and Carter.
- 27:12SPEAKER_00: We'll blame them too.
- 27:14SPEAKER_00: It's like, where's Tad?
- 27:15SPEAKER_00: Nobody was looking for poor Tad.
- 27:16SPEAKER_00: He was just there eating his popcorn, watching a baseball game.
- 27:20SPEAKER_00: No one messaged him.
- 27:22SPEAKER_00: Uh, so sad.
- 27:25SPEAKER_00: But uh, but you know, there it is.
- 27:27SPEAKER_00: That's the secret.
- 27:28SPEAKER_00: So y'all can uh give Tad give Tad a hard time.
- 27:30SPEAKER_00: Just remind him of bus bus times.
- 27:32SPEAKER_00: Granted, there was no like call time, right?
- 27:34SPEAKER_00: Dante, you and Ben decided let's leave in the seventh.
- 27:37SPEAKER_00: And so we were ad hoc messaging, and just Tad wasn't in those circles.
- 27:41SPEAKER_00: He is a retiree, so I think we got to give him a little extra care sometimes.
- 27:47SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so that's that's that's the weekend.
- 27:49SPEAKER_00: Yeehaw.
- 27:50SPEAKER_00: Buckle up, everybody.
- 27:52SPEAKER_00: Um, so now uh as our as our fun plug to take uh to tail this thing off, uh I asked everyone to uh to prepare some hot takes.
- 28:01SPEAKER_00: What's a hot take you have about anything, anything in the world?
- 28:04SPEAKER_00: So uh why don't we start who should go first?
- 28:06SPEAKER_00: Dante, you pick.
- 28:07SPEAKER_00: Who should go first for their hot take?
- 28:11SPEAKER_01: Let's go, Casey.
- 28:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 28:17SPEAKER_02: Do we have 20 minutes to spare?
- 28:19SPEAKER_00: We do, we do.
- 28:20SPEAKER_00: There's still time.
- 28:21SPEAKER_02: Okay, all right.
- 28:22SPEAKER_02: Go, Casey.
- 28:23SPEAKER_03: First of all, I resemble that remark.
- 28:25SPEAKER_03: Second of all, the Beatles are the most overrated band in the history of the world.
- 28:31SPEAKER_03: Wow.
- 28:32SPEAKER_00: Casey's painting a target on his back.
- 28:34SPEAKER_00: Why, Casey?
- 28:35SPEAKER_00: What's wrong with the Beatles?
- 28:36SPEAKER_03: I will not elaborate.
- 28:38SPEAKER_00: Not at all.
- 28:41SPEAKER_03: Not even a little bit.
- 28:43SPEAKER_03: Not even a little bit.
- 28:44SPEAKER_03: That's what a hot take is.
- 28:46SPEAKER_03: You drop it and then you scoot.
- 28:48SPEAKER_00: Um, Casey, can I admit something to you?
- 28:52SPEAKER_00: Sure.
- 28:52SPEAKER_00: I agree with your hot take.
- 28:57SPEAKER_03: Two against the world, you and me.
- 28:58SPEAKER_00: I like the Beatles, fine.
- 29:00SPEAKER_00: And I appreciate the music, but I just it's not you'll I'll never turn it on myself.
- 29:07SPEAKER_00: Ever.
- 29:09SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 29:09SPEAKER_00: How do you two feel about the Beatles?
- 29:11SPEAKER_03: K KLOS is gonna come for us after this.
- 29:13SPEAKER_00: Nah, they haven't played the Beatles in years.
- 29:16SPEAKER_03: I reference with the Beatles every Sunday.
- 29:19SPEAKER_00: Oh, you're right.
- 29:20SPEAKER_00: Excuse me.
- 29:22SPEAKER_02: I love I I love the Beatles.
- 29:24SPEAKER_02: I think they're revolutionary.
- 29:27SPEAKER_00: I don't disagree.
- 29:28SPEAKER_00: I think they're revolutionary.
- 29:29SPEAKER_00: Like they change the world.
- 29:30SPEAKER_00: I just it's like I said, like, I'm not gonna throw on a you know white album LP anytime soon.
- 29:37SPEAKER_02: I think yeah, I think your take was that yes, they're revolutionary, but I don't like to necessarily listen to them now.
- 29:43SPEAKER_02: Is that was that I think that's what you're doing.
- 29:45SPEAKER_00: I guess that's what I'm saying.
- 29:47SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 29:47SPEAKER_00: I guess that's what I'm saying.
- 29:48SPEAKER_00: Uh Dante, how about you?
- 29:49SPEAKER_00: What's your relationship with the Beatles?
- 29:52SPEAKER_01: I think they're cool.
- 29:53SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't check out I don't check them out like uh Marie plays it, and so I know some of the tunes, but it's not something I'm going to thumb in and look up the Beatles.
- 30:03SPEAKER_00: Gotcha.
- 30:03SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 30:03SPEAKER_00: There it is.
- 30:04SPEAKER_00: Casey's hot take.
- 30:05SPEAKER_00: The Beatles are the worst band in the history of time.
- 30:07SPEAKER_00: That's what KC said.
- 30:08SPEAKER_00: Verbatim.
- 30:09SPEAKER_03: Most over uh verbatim was most overrated in the history of the world.
- 30:13SPEAKER_03: Anyway.
- 30:13SPEAKER_00: Alright, uh, Mr.
- 30:15SPEAKER_00: D, what's your hot take?
- 30:16SPEAKER_00: What's a hot take you've got today?
- 30:19SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna aim I think I can be able to baseball.
- 30:26SPEAKER_00: Nice.
- 30:27SPEAKER_00: What position?
- 30:28SPEAKER_00: What position?
- 30:29SPEAKER_01: Um on the pro side, probably outfielder.
- 30:34SPEAKER_01: Um the pitch yesterday reminded me, yeah, you were just a little lead pitcher, not um you're not ready for the big leagues.
- 30:41SPEAKER_01: But I think I can get some um some good passes in out there.
- 30:46SPEAKER_01: I did it at the Dodgers game.
- 30:47SPEAKER_01: A ball came towards me when we were outperforming.
- 30:49SPEAKER_00: I remember that.
- 30:49SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 30:50SPEAKER_01: I had to launch across, and then the pitch, I was like, you know what?
- 30:53SPEAKER_01: I can I can make a practice for it.
- 30:56SPEAKER_00: You think so?
- 30:56SPEAKER_00: You think you can you can hock it from left field and get a guy out at third?
- 31:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, with some training and and some exercise and some uh building up those muscles.
- 31:04SPEAKER_01: I think I got it.
- 31:06SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you what, I I am not built for the outfield.
- 31:09SPEAKER_00: I just I have that like infield switch, like run up on the ball.
- 31:13SPEAKER_00: And you like anytime I played outfield, like they'd hit it and I'd take like five steps forward and end up, you know, screwing up my whole thing.
- 31:20SPEAKER_01: It's a patient position.
- 31:22SPEAKER_00: Well, clearly I don't have patience.
- 31:23SPEAKER_00: I think that's what we all can understand.
- 31:26SPEAKER_00: Outfield, Brett, what do you think?
- 31:28SPEAKER_00: After seeing Dante's performance, how do you feel about Dante's hot take?
- 31:32SPEAKER_02: Oh, uh I think that's pretty pretty true.
- 31:34SPEAKER_02: Uh, I know that Dante was an at was an athlete before he was a musician.
- 31:40SPEAKER_02: So this is true.
- 31:41SPEAKER_02: And he and he's a baller uh like me, that goes out on the goes out in the court and shoots some hoops, right?
- 31:47SPEAKER_02: So did you watch that movie?
- 31:48SPEAKER_03: You at home would all know also if you've watched the Trojan Spirit Streamathon for the last couple years.
- 31:53SPEAKER_00: That's right.
- 31:54SPEAKER_00: That's right.
- 31:54SPEAKER_00: Did you watch that movie I recommended, Mr.
- 31:56SPEAKER_00: D?
- 31:57SPEAKER_03: I have not yet.
- 31:58SPEAKER_00: Check it out.
- 32:00SPEAKER_01: Check it out.
- 32:00SPEAKER_00: You'll dig it.
- 32:01SPEAKER_00: You'll dig it.
- 32:02SPEAKER_00: I was reminded when I was driving back yesterday, you know, from USC after dropping off Tad.
- 32:06SPEAKER_00: Uh there's that park on Vermont, and there was a there was a game going on.
- 32:11SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, oh yeah, I gotta remind him.
- 32:13SPEAKER_00: See if he watched it.
- 32:14unknown: Cool.
- 32:14SPEAKER_00: All right, so Dante's hot take.
- 32:15SPEAKER_00: All right, Kenneth, KC, or no, sorry, Brett.
- 32:18SPEAKER_00: What's your hot take, Brett?
- 32:19SPEAKER_02: You said you had two.
- 32:21SPEAKER_02: I did I did have two, but I'm only gonna do one unless you're really you know, Jones in for a second one.
- 32:25SPEAKER_00: No, I'm good.
- 32:26SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I thought my hot take uh is marching band is not a sport.
- 32:32SPEAKER_00: Uh-oh.
- 32:33SPEAKER_00: You're gonna get us banned off of all marching band channels.
- 32:36SPEAKER_02: I know.
- 32:37SPEAKER_02: And it and this is not to denigrate marching band and the marching arts as an art form, but would you call ballet a sport?
- 32:47SPEAKER_02: It's it's just as physical as marching band, if not maybe more so and more grueling, but it's an art form.
- 32:53SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't and because we're such a sports-focused society, we think to have any legitimacy it has to be a sport in some ways, right?
- 33:03SPEAKER_02: Like to be taken seriously, and off and also at school, oftentimes marching band fills in or it uh does the PE requirement, right?
- 33:14SPEAKER_02: Um because it is physical, but I think it's more so an art form, and that in no way uh takes away from marching ban.
- 33:23SPEAKER_02: I just think it's silly to say that it's a sport when it's not.
- 33:29SPEAKER_02: What would you say about competitive marching band where they're graded and compete against one another, such as DCI or the biggest problem with DCI, I mean any anything other than what we do when they do have competitions, is that I think because so much of the scoring in marching band is subjective, I think that makes it closer to an art form, right?
- 33:49SPEAKER_02: I mean if you had a ballet competition or like a breakdancing competition, would you say it's a sport then?
- 33:56SPEAKER_02: I think no.
- 33:57SPEAKER_02: I just think it's an art form.
- 34:00SPEAKER_02: Even though breakdancing was a sport at the Paris Olympics.
- 34:04SPEAKER_02: It sure was.
- 34:04SPEAKER_02: It was some kind of sport.
- 34:05SPEAKER_02: Infamously, infamously.
- 34:07SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 34:08SPEAKER_00: Oh, I don't know.
- 34:09SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of sports in the Olympics that seem very subjective to me.
- 34:12SPEAKER_02: And that and I think that's kind of the the thing, you know.
- 34:15SPEAKER_02: We we treat them as sports, but I think sports should have much more objective scoring and have direct competition.
- 34:24SPEAKER_02: You're not directly competing, you're not going out on the march, you know, on the field and battling the other marching band.
- 34:30unknown: Sure.
- 34:31SPEAKER_00: Dante, how do you feel about Brett's take on this?
- 34:35SPEAKER_01: I'm split.
- 34:37SPEAKER_01: Um for the very reasons that he's mentioning is why I don't think it's a sport.
- 34:43SPEAKER_01: It is a display of art form.
- 34:46SPEAKER_01: Um and the subjective to it is what it is.
- 34:49SPEAKER_01: Um I think when they put the point value system on it, it does try to lean into the sports arena.
- 34:56SPEAKER_01: But I mean, I guess the same thing could be said about uh twirling or any of those competitive things.
- 35:02SPEAKER_01: Like people consider it to be a sport because it's competitive and it has a national stage and a national presence.
- 35:10SPEAKER_01: Um, so it's it can be confusing, um, especially in a college ram.
- 35:16SPEAKER_01: Like college marching bands are pure entertainment.
- 35:18SPEAKER_01: Um we're not after the tenth of a point.
- 35:21SPEAKER_01: If we can get a perfect show or close to perfect show, awesome.
- 35:24SPEAKER_01: If not, so be it.
- 35:26SPEAKER_01: Um so it's this is definitely a a hot take.
- 35:30SPEAKER_00: It's a hot take, Brett.
- 35:31SPEAKER_00: You're causing a ruckus in here.
- 35:33SPEAKER_02: I just don't think I just don't think why it it doesn't take anything away from marching band to not call it a sport.
- 35:39SPEAKER_02: It's true.
- 35:40SPEAKER_02: And just because it's super, it is I I you can see it on Saturday, how much effort goes into it and how much training you need to do marching band, but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing that it's no that we don't consider it a sport because it's just also it it also almost in some ways takes away from being in a marching band to call it a sport because it's just like another sport like football.
- 36:01SPEAKER_02: It's like, no, it's not the same thing.
- 36:03SPEAKER_02: We're we're entertaining, we're playing music, all these subjective things.
- 36:07SPEAKER_02: On football, there's a very objective ending to the game.
- 36:10SPEAKER_02: You know, one team scores more than the other.
- 36:12SPEAKER_02: And that's not what marching band and the performing arts are or should be, I think.
- 36:17SPEAKER_02: It's more of just well, how much entertainment can you get from this?
- 36:20SPEAKER_02: You know, I think that's why uh I think it's not a sport, and that is not a bad thing.
- 36:27SPEAKER_01: But I think that's why the argument is still there too, because when you think about professional sports, it's frowned upon to add the entertainment value.
- 36:36SPEAKER_01: So the Deion Sanders effect and those people that created entertainment within the sport, that people didn't like that because it it wasn't the competitive side of it, but there is a an art to sporting as well to add entertainment to for LeBron to go for a dunk and when he could have just did a layup, like that is entertainment to add to the the sports.
- 36:56SPEAKER_02: So that's a very yeah, that's a very good point.
- 36:59SPEAKER_02: And that you know, but that doesn't really affect the and the end result of the game.
- 37:05SPEAKER_02: That's that's you know, gravy on top, right?
- 37:08SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
- 37:09SPEAKER_02: Uh I just think that uh like I said, I think we're in we're such a sports-obsessed culture, and I'm guilty of this too.
- 37:16SPEAKER_02: I just think that to create legitimacy for anything, we have to call it a sport so people can take it seriously.
- 37:24SPEAKER_02: And uh it don't we we don't need to.
- 37:26SPEAKER_02: We're but we're not we're not athletes in that way.
- 37:30SPEAKER_02: Uh that's my hot take.
- 37:33SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 37:34SPEAKER_02: Nice.
- 37:35SPEAKER_02: And I ended up talking longer than Casey, which is crazy.
- 37:38SPEAKER_00: You did.
- 37:38SPEAKER_00: You did.
- 37:39SPEAKER_00: I think it's because you were you were scared.
- 37:41SPEAKER_02: According to my plan.
- 37:42SPEAKER_00: I think you were worried about the backlash, and so you you just you just kept talking.
- 37:47SPEAKER_02: Oh, I also thought this out quite a bit beforehand.
- 37:49SPEAKER_02: I don't think there shouldn't be any backlash.
- 37:50SPEAKER_02: It's not, it doesn't yeah, whatever.
- 37:52SPEAKER_02: You know, get over yourselves.
- 37:53SPEAKER_02: You're you're you're not you're a musician.
- 37:56SPEAKER_02: Um, you're not an athlete, but that's not a bad thing.
- 37:58SPEAKER_03: If you disagree with Brett, get down there in the comments and tell us all about it.
- 38:02SPEAKER_00: Yeah, tell us all about it.
- 38:03SPEAKER_00: I I what it boils when I'm thinking about it, really what you're it's in our minds, can we differentiate or the idea that athleticism and you know peak athletic performance is necessary in things that are not sports, right?
- 38:20SPEAKER_00: It takes a lot of athletic, like you said, to be a ballerina, to be a cheerleader, to be a dancer, right?
- 38:26SPEAKER_00: These take tremendous physical efforts and a lot of athleticism.
- 38:30SPEAKER_00: Um I would say that even you know, golf for a lot of folks, it is a sport.
- 38:35SPEAKER_00: There is objectivity there, but a lot of folks are not competing.
- 38:39SPEAKER_00: It's a hobby, it's it's there's something there.
- 38:41SPEAKER_00: So I think in that's what it comes down to with me.
- 38:44SPEAKER_00: I if you were to ask me if we had to put a definition on it, is it a sport or not?
- 38:48SPEAKER_00: I would probably agree that it's not a sport.
- 38:51SPEAKER_00: Um, but it is a a highly athletic, competitive, can be competitive art form as well as an entertainment.
- 38:59SPEAKER_00: So I don't think you're off the rails.
- 39:01SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 39:02SPEAKER_02: And yeah, like I said, I I appreciate it.
- 39:04SPEAKER_02: I've done it myself.
- 39:05SPEAKER_02: I I know how hard it can be and how much effort it takes, if not more so, because you know, we have athletes, the football field players running around, but they're not blowing into an instrument, they're not holding a tuba.
- 39:15SPEAKER_02: You know, so there is you know, there's a lot of athleticism involved in marching band, but I just don't think it is a sport in that in that way.
- 39:22SPEAKER_02: And this and that's not a bad thing.
- 39:24SPEAKER_00: But they are holding a 300-pound lineman.
- 39:27SPEAKER_02: They could, yeah, the O linemen are that's for sure.
- 39:30SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're holding those guys back.
- 39:31SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 39:32SPEAKER_03: I believe that's a penalty to hold the lineman.
- 39:35SPEAKER_00: You know what?
- 39:35SPEAKER_00: Casey's right.
- 39:36SPEAKER_00: So uh we'll add to Casey's hot takes.
- 39:38SPEAKER_00: Uh, it is a penalty to hold somebody on the football field.
- 39:42SPEAKER_00: Hot take.
- 39:43SPEAKER_00: All right, here's my hot take.
- 39:44SPEAKER_00: Are you ready?
- 39:44SPEAKER_00: Buckle up.
- 39:45SPEAKER_00: Uh, I cannot stand for the life of me George Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue.
- 39:52SPEAKER_00: Oh, I've heard this one.
- 39:53SPEAKER_00: I'm not interested.
- 39:55SPEAKER_00: It just it it starts and it stops, and I am I'm just I appreciate it.
- 40:00SPEAKER_00: I I'll tell you this.
- 40:02SPEAKER_00: Have you seen uh Fantasia 2000?
- 40:04SPEAKER_00: Any of you?
- 40:05SPEAKER_00: I have, yes.
- 40:06SPEAKER_00: There's a yes, have you seen it, Dante?
- 40:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I have once.
- 40:10SPEAKER_00: There's well, there's a great segment uh in the middle with Rhapsody and Blue, and it's like a New York scene, and it's all these these fun the I love the animation, I love the segment, but holy smokies, like I just that piece of music.
- 40:22SPEAKER_00: I would much rather listen to An American in Paris by George Gershwin.
- 40:26SPEAKER_00: So uh opening clarinet solo, piano.
- 40:29SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, no, thank you.
- 40:30SPEAKER_00: I'll pass it.
- 40:31SPEAKER_02: You don't like the you not even the opening clarinet?
- 40:33SPEAKER_02: Uh like as a as a young clarinet player, I'd loved playing that little like that gliss at the beginning.
- 40:39SPEAKER_02: Oh is that the crop proper term?
- 40:44SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 40:45SPEAKER_02: Okay, I loved that.
- 40:46SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 40:47SPEAKER_02: Uh I loved playing that.
- 40:48SPEAKER_02: I thought it was a beautiful.
- 40:50SPEAKER_02: Uh can you explain exactly why you don't like it?
- 40:53SPEAKER_00: No.
- 40:54SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 40:57SPEAKER_03: Proud of you.
- 40:58SPEAKER_03: Proud of you.
- 40:58SPEAKER_00: It's just there so since we're talking about objectivity and subjectivity, I have no objective objections to Rhapsody and Blue.
- 41:08SPEAKER_00: The music is fine.
- 41:10SPEAKER_00: The the elements of it, there's nothing objectionable in it.
- 41:13SPEAKER_00: I just, it doesn't ring my chimes.
- 41:17SPEAKER_00: It's just not something I'm gonna I'm gonna tune my ears into.
- 41:20SPEAKER_00: Um and he has, like I said, in American in Paris, it's got taxi horns.
- 41:25SPEAKER_00: It's just to me, it it's got more exciting elements to it.
- 41:29SPEAKER_00: Um, I you've asked me this before, Brett.
- 41:31SPEAKER_00: Like, why, what don't I like about it?
- 41:33SPEAKER_00: It's very episodic in nature, right?
- 41:35SPEAKER_00: You get this piece of part of the music, this part of the music, this part of the music, and it goes on like that for a while.
- 41:41SPEAKER_00: And I've said before, I don't like that, but on the same token, I love Aaron Copeland's Appalachian Spring, which is which does the same thing.
- 41:49SPEAKER_00: It's very episodic, it's very scene-like in the way the music put together.
- 41:53SPEAKER_00: So um, I don't know.
- 41:54SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's because I played it when I was, you know, in college and I thought it'd be more fun to play, and the French horn part wasn't that interesting.
- 42:02SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's because I marched that um, you know, terminal dedication gig and played cymbals and wrecked my shoulders and vowed never to play cymbals again.
- 42:11SPEAKER_00: Um, maybe that's part of it.
- 42:13SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
- 42:13SPEAKER_00: I just don't like it.
- 42:14SPEAKER_00: I'm not a fan.
- 42:15SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
- 42:18SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm gonna be playing Beatles and Rhapsody and Blue in the office.
- 42:22SPEAKER_00: Please do ad nauseum now.
- 42:24SPEAKER_00: I that would be great.
- 42:25SPEAKER_00: Well, uh, this concludes episode number two of TM Banter of the KTMB Network.
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