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and Kelly AuCoin from "Billions" · Untraditionally Lala

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  Speaker 1: Hello, my gorgeous humans. It's La La Kent and welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the Give Them La La with Randall podcast. We
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  Speaker 1: are so grateful that y'all have been sticking with us,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, in light of everything that is happening
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  Speaker 1: in this world, Give Them Lalla with Randal decided to
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  Speaker 1: take a two week break from the podcast for us
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  Speaker 1: to remember those who have lost their lives to police brutality,
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  Speaker 1: to educate ourselves and to get grounded and remember what
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  Speaker 1: is important in this life and what we need to
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  Speaker 1: do to encourage change. This episode is with Kelly o'coin.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know him. He's just on
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  Speaker 1: this little show called The Billions. We did this podcast
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks ago and we decided to keep it
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  Speaker 1: on hold during our little hiatus, and we are so
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  Speaker 1: excited to share it with y'all now, So sit back
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  Speaker 1: and enjoy. It's Kelly o'coin on Give Them La La
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  Speaker 1: with Randal. What's up, folks, It's La La Kent with Ram.
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  Speaker 1: What's up baby?
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  Speaker 2: Another episode?
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  Speaker 1: Another episode.
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  Speaker 3: I just keep I keep waiting for a time order
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  Speaker 3: to just put the plug on us and say you're
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  Speaker 3: wasting our airspace.
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  Speaker 2: Not you, not you. Yeah, no, because you.
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  Speaker 1: Better recognize I'm sorry, queen. I have the best time
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  Speaker 1: doing this podcast. It's the one thing I am doing
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  Speaker 1: where I'm like, Wow, it's.
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  Speaker 2: All about me, the one and I look at it.
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  Speaker 2: I look at it differently. I look at it differently because.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just fucking around.
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  Speaker 2: You're not that's I am.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I was really going to be more like sentimental
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  Speaker 1: and say it's the one thing I do where I'm
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  Speaker 1: like with my babe, we get to just banter that baby, and.
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  Speaker 3: Tim, I want to ask you because you're a married
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  Speaker 3: man and we're about to get married. La, Yes, this
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  Speaker 3: is exactly what I was talking about, what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: This is what I'm bringing up. What I'm bringing up
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  Speaker 3: is last night I was very upset and Lala now
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  Speaker 3: has her phone to her face again, and we have
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  Speaker 3: a new thing that we decide in our relationship that
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  Speaker 3: after nine o'clock at night, we are gonna not have
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  Speaker 3: phones and because one of us is always with the
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  Speaker 3: phone stuck to us.
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  Speaker 1: I was actually really into the way that you approached
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  Speaker 1: it this morning, though.
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  Speaker 2: How did I do it?
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  Speaker 1: So he comes in from playing pickleball with his friends
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  Speaker 1: and he was like, babe, can we talk? I just
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  Speaker 1: would like us to not be so into our phones,
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  Speaker 1: like it hurt my feelings. Last night, you were on
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  Speaker 1: your phone until like midnight, and I was like, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: When should we decide to put our phones down? We
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  Speaker 1: said nine thirty. Then I explained to him, yesterday I
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  Speaker 1: got really caught up just in like just like really
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  Speaker 1: exciting things. Pray yesterday, but give them la la beauty.
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  Speaker 1: And I was just like obsessing over all of it.
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  Speaker 1: So I and.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that, and I like that we could just
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  Speaker 3: talk to each other now and it's not always some
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  Speaker 3: big drama. But I'm curious to do you guys face
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  Speaker 3: phone issues or like if.
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  Speaker 4: We've had this same conversation at least four or five times?
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  Speaker 2: Really, but who's on the phone more you or your wife?
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  Speaker 4: Probably me, but it goes back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: Probably ten because his boss is Randall Emmett, so I
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  Speaker 1: would assume too.
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  Speaker 2: I don't screw with you at night. What's in a
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  Speaker 2: blue moon?
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I need a script for rarely rarely rarely,
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  Speaker 3: So it's just your wife is rides you and then
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  Speaker 3: do you have a time to put the phone down?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean we've I think we've said nine o'clock. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: but we haven't. It's like we've instituted it and then
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  Speaker 4: we forget about it. But we would both like that.
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  Speaker 3: To be Can I tell you something I think us
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  Speaker 3: going forward with a nine o'clock phone rule. I think
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  Speaker 3: that you can't have sanity both going to sleep in
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  Speaker 3: a healthy way and having a good connection if both
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  Speaker 3: of you are glued to your phone, or even one
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  Speaker 3: of you are is glued. And I take full response.
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  Speaker 3: Really like last night, she was guilty, but I also
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  Speaker 3: been guilty twenty times in a row. So this is
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna really try this tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I've been okay with Randall being on the phone
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  Speaker 1: a lot more lately because I have a dream backyard
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  Speaker 1: that I would like and if being on the phone
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  Speaker 1: makes more money, then have at it. You have.
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  Speaker 2: You have been very supportive lately because I.
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  Speaker 1: Think I need that cabana at the end of my pool.
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  Speaker 1: Work work, work, Randal whips.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, just slow her, fuck it down in a baby.
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  Speaker 2: I love you, baby.
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  Speaker 3: You look so happy today, smiling, and you've got no
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  Speaker 3: bron as usual, and things are just lit up in
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  Speaker 3: this room. But I'm just gonna let that go all right,
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  Speaker 3: because it's a crime. What's going on here?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to some boysmails.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably a good idea.
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  Speaker 5: Hilo on rand reflex. I'm a huge fan of paroles,
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  Speaker 5: and my question for you guys is what excited for
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  Speaker 5: when it comes to being married. What is the aspect
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  Speaker 5: of being married that you're most excited for her? And also,
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  Speaker 5: to the same end, what aspect of the wedding are
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  Speaker 5: you most excited for? I know you guys are obviously
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  Speaker 5: postponing things, but what are you most looking forward to
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  Speaker 5: now that you've postponed? Really looking forward to hopefully hearing
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  Speaker 5: most of this? Love you guys.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good one. Most excited about the wedding and
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  Speaker 2: most sad about being married?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, The thing that I'm most excited about for
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  Speaker 1: the wedding is the look on Rand's face when I
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  Speaker 1: walk down the aisle in my dress. Let me say this,
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  Speaker 1: Can I tell you when I had the designer make
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  Speaker 1: my dress, I made sure I said I don't want
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  Speaker 1: any of my tattoos showing a covered baby.
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  Speaker 2: Well, now I'm really excited.
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  Speaker 1: We're I'm going to be one classy bitch on that day.
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  Speaker 2: Can I tell you, first of all, I'm not worried.
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  Speaker 2: I'm joking.
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  Speaker 3: I know that you take that wedding day very seriously
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  Speaker 3: and you know that you only want to make me happy,
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  Speaker 3: and that's what it's all about.
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  Speaker 1: Boom boom.
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  Speaker 3: So my so, my thing is, uh, it's definitely on
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  Speaker 3: my wedding day. The thing that I'm going to be
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  Speaker 3: most excited about is obviously seeing you come down the aisle.
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  Speaker 3: That's gonna be a probably the highlight of the wedding.
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  Speaker 3: And and then what about what else?
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  Speaker 2: Was the question?
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  Speaker 1: What about being married? My I'm most excited to make babies?
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  Speaker 1: Ba boom boom.
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  Speaker 2: I'm most excited about the process of making the baby.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I get yead be fun.
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  Speaker 3: I'm you know what I'm most excited about being married,
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  Speaker 3: I swear is really we're already one, but it really
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  Speaker 3: like just that it that it's like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: it just feels it's like the highest level of becoming
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  Speaker 3: one but also keeping our independence in our own you know,
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  Speaker 3: supporting each other's independence, but being one.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of I love it. Okay, Next question, Hilla
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  Speaker 1: and Randall.
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  Speaker 6: This is Isabelle from Salt Lake City, Utah. I just
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  Speaker 6: wanted to say I love your podcast. I love you
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  Speaker 6: guys on vander Pump for My question is for Lala.
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  Speaker 6: I grew up in Utah pretty much most of my life,
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  Speaker 6: actually Saint George, Utah, where I graduated high school and
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  Speaker 6: went to intermedia and middle school. And I was curious,
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  Speaker 6: I know Laala grew up in Utah as well, and
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  Speaker 6: I had a lot of bullying going on when I
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  Speaker 6: was in high school, mostly because I was not a
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  Speaker 6: member of the church, and my friends were really strict
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  Speaker 6: members of the church and there was a lot of
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  Speaker 6: pressure from them and their families to join them. So
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  Speaker 6: it was kind of difficult for me to hold my
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  Speaker 6: ground and be who I am as a person and
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  Speaker 6: not become a member of the church and stick with
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  Speaker 6: my ideals. I was wondering if Lalla, you had the
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  Speaker 6: same issues or if you had a similar experience growing
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  Speaker 6: up in high school, and how you dealt with that.
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  Speaker 6: Keep doing what you're doing. Love you guys, bye.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, that is a good question.
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  Speaker 1: I like that question. Yeah, I had the same issues.
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  Speaker 1: That's why it's such an asshole because I had to
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  Speaker 1: fight the bullies off with my words. I really did
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I used to be really sweet. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: just a sweet.
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  Speaker 4: We're still so sweet. It's just like a little bite.
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  Speaker 1: There's a bite. I didn't have that bite always. It's
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  Speaker 1: only when these you know, little school yard kids got
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  Speaker 1: a little too rough for the sandbox that I had
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  Speaker 1: to like kind of fuck shit up a little bit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, since the time I was a little kid.
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  Speaker 1: The thing is, though, is like my dad grew up
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  Speaker 1: super Mormon, my mom was raised super Christian, and clearly
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  Speaker 1: they both did not like that. So Easton and I
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  Speaker 1: were just raised spiritual. But the crazy thing is in
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  Speaker 1: Utahs if you're not a Mormon, a lot of parents
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  Speaker 1: have a tough time letting their kids hang out with
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  Speaker 1: kids that are not a part of the church.
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  Speaker 4: That makes sense, Yeah, yeah, in my hometown there were
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  Speaker 4: there was a pretty strong community of Mormons, and I
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  Speaker 4: was really good friends with you. Where did you grow
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  Speaker 4: up in a town called Rippon which is near Modesto. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it was like a bigger Mormon
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  Speaker 4: community than other places outside of Utah, but like I
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  Speaker 4: happen to be friends with a big Mormon popular Like
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  Speaker 4: a lot of my friends were Mormon and they were
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  Speaker 4: all they were generally very very creative. So they were
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  Speaker 4: in like the drama classes and band. I was in
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  Speaker 4: marching band. Oh yeah, does that shock you.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit?
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  Speaker 1: Kind of? I do picture you inquire?
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  Speaker 4: I was in choir. Yeah, I was in a barbershop quartet.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you have to give us pictures.
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  Speaker 4: I'll look for some pictures for you.
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  Speaker 1: Dude. Producer Tim is always just bringing in some like
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  Speaker 1: new little things that I had no idea about.
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  Speaker 4: A steel drum band.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, you're so badass. Please Alex's faces like you're you're
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  Speaker 1: teaching your best friend new things about you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what.
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  Speaker 1: Though, in Utah it was different from Mormons and other
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  Speaker 1: states because they're on their high horse, right, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, wait a minute, you're like being so judgy,
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  Speaker 1: but like the book Love says, don't be judgy.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and it's like when you are kind of the population,
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  Speaker 4: the people that are different, it's easier to kind of
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  Speaker 4: make them feel different, even if you're not trying to, right.
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  Speaker 4: And there's they're gonna be assholes whether you're Mormon or
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  Speaker 4: not Mormon, you know what I mean. So there are
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  Speaker 4: gonna be asshole Mormons who pick up on that one
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  Speaker 4: thing that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what I remember about Mormons as they got
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  Speaker 1: older in my high school, they love to like call
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  Speaker 1: me a whore. That's like everyone's favorite thing is to
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  Speaker 1: call me a whore. And it's like, please come up
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  Speaker 1: with something different. And I because I dress like provocatively,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I was like, dude, this body ain't
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  Speaker 1: gonna be like this forever. Like things are gonna start
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  Speaker 1: sagging at some point. And these people, the woman, the
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  Speaker 1: girl that's coming up and being like modest is hottest.
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  Speaker 1: Lala is like giving bejs. So the whole football team
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  Speaker 1: every Friday night. It's like, God, shut up. That's my experience. See,
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  Speaker 1: that's why I got my boss can talk from it
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  Speaker 1: at a young and there you go. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: fun fact all right, I love it. Those questions were fun.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna take a short break when Randall gets back.
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  Speaker 1: We have the infamous Kelly o'coyinn who is on Billions
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  Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to get him on the line.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be right back. We are back, my beautiful people,
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  Speaker 1: and we have a really fun guest. Today. We have
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  Speaker 1: Kelly a Coin, who Randall is obsessed with what's up, cal,
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  Speaker 1: How you doing, dude? We're good.
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  Speaker 7: I love the pressure of real fun guests before we
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  Speaker 7: even got started.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta just tell you so, first of all, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna blow your fucking ego up real quick. I am
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  Speaker 3: the biggest Billions fan. I know you get that hourly.
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  Speaker 3: I just have to tell you, Brian Koppleman, I blow
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  Speaker 3: up on the GRAM when he goes live. I hit
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  Speaker 3: him hard, like Brian, you're the man, and he's like
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  Speaker 3: him and the what's the other creator's name?
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  Speaker 8: His partner, David Levine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So they're like on a line together and I'm
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  Speaker 3: blowing him up NonStop and he's like, he's like David,
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  Speaker 3: we got Randall Levan.
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  Speaker 2: He's this big place.
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  Speaker 1: It makes so much sense now, Kelly, because he'll like
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  Speaker 1: be on someone's live and he'll be like, I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: to David Levine or Brian whatever Levine and I'm like
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  Speaker 1: Avril and he's like, no, Billions, I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: This guy is Avril Levine. That's the generation gap. That's
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  Speaker 2: generation gap.
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 3: But I just have to tell you, first of all,
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  Speaker 3: not only is the writing on this show.
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  Speaker 2: And I know you're.
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  Speaker 3: A very, very prestigious theater actor. You start with Denzel Washington,
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  Speaker 3: you're like the real fuck McCoy. So I give you
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  Speaker 3: mad respect on all levels. But I want to say,
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  Speaker 3: it's got to be refreshing to work on a show
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  Speaker 3: that the actor bar is so high. The writing, so
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  Speaker 3: I just want to hear your initial take, you know,
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  Speaker 3: thoughts on that.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean you've nailed it. I mean I've
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  Speaker 7: been really lucky. The show I was doing before this,
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  Speaker 7: and it overlapped a little bit, was The Americans, which
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  Speaker 7: was another show that had an incredible actor is an
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  Speaker 7: incredible writing. Billions is second to none as far as
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  Speaker 7: I can tell, in terms of the right the writer's room,
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  Speaker 7: which obviously is led by Brian and David uh and
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  Speaker 7: then the quality of the of the regulars and the
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  Speaker 7: guest stars that we get. I mean, people want to
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  Speaker 7: be on the show, and I think they want to
• 13:18
  Speaker 7: be on the show because not only are they going
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  Speaker 7: to get to say some really fucking fun, funny, dark,
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  Speaker 7: weird shit, They're also going to like they're gonna be
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  Speaker 7: working with people that they've seen.
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  Speaker 8: Before and they want to play ball with.
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  Speaker 7: There's so many actors that I just I'm like, I
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  Speaker 7: can't believe I get to hang out with you for
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  Speaker 7: a day because you're awesome.
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  Speaker 8: You know.
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  Speaker 3: It's so I mean even these even the small scenes, babe,
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  Speaker 3: Like even the the little scenes off to the right,
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  Speaker 3: Like those characters are so rich, they're so fun, they're
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  Speaker 3: so well developed, and you don't see that in a
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  Speaker 3: lot of TV, I mean, unless it's a high level Kelly.
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  Speaker 1: He literally rewinds scenes four times.
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  Speaker 7: To watch them through once at least and then go
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  Speaker 7: back or Okay, but.
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  Speaker 2: Let's be honest.
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  Speaker 3: Let's be honest, Kelly. Season one and season two, that
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  Speaker 3: season last scenes were the Mammont e epic David Mammont
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  Speaker 3: moment you could you could ever see between those guys.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, they were, They were insane.
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  Speaker 7: They always end well, they always and they always have
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  Speaker 7: like late season they have a mid season episode that
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  Speaker 7: sort of you know, the finale of which sort of
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  Speaker 7: launches them in the second half of the season in
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  Speaker 7: a different way, and then a couple of late late
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  Speaker 7: season episode like I think it was season three with
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  Speaker 7: the ice Juice Ice episode. My god, that wasn't even
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  Speaker 7: a season finale, and it was that epic epic They
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  Speaker 7: did fucking what you see Giamani's weeping and you turn
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  Speaker 7: around and he is kind of because he's lost all
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  Speaker 7: his money, but he's laughing because he won.
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  Speaker 2: It's so sick.
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  Speaker 1: It really is brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: That's brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: And the scenes that you show me, I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Wait.
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  Speaker 3: I have a couple a couple of fan girl questions
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  Speaker 3: myself because I'm still fan So, uh.
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  Speaker 2: What's his name? The lead? Uh?
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  Speaker 8: Damian Lewis?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? Is he sorry? I'm overwhelmed? Is he nice guy? Fun?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 3: Is he because he seems so fun that he's having
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  Speaker 3: so much fun with the character.
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  Speaker 2: What's he like?
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  Speaker 8: He's a monster. He's a total monster.
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  Speaker 7: And I've been sending out signals to people to fucking
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  Speaker 7: save us, and they just keep ignoring us. He's the
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  Speaker 7: He's the best. He and Giamatti and Maggie Siff and
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  Speaker 7: David Costable who plays Wags like they're all just great
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: human people. And Chuck Senior Jeffrey Demand is a teddy bear.
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  Speaker 8: He's a damn teddy bear. Everyone.
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  Speaker 7: It's I've never seen a show where the level of
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  Speaker 7: sweetness is in complete inverse proportion to the level of
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  Speaker 7: malevolence and bile that they show on amazing.
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  Speaker 3: It's a real family because we know a lot of
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  Speaker 3: shows out there, they really are monsters. So it's great.
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  Speaker 3: Have you guys, what are you? Are you in hiatus
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  Speaker 3: right now? Did you shoot anything and then stop? And
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  Speaker 3: what happened with the COVID with you guys?
• 16:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I can talk about it now because it's there's
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: been I think a month ago there was an official statement,
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: but we finished.
• 16:21
  Speaker 8: It's always a twelve episode season. We finished shooting seven.
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: We had just kind of dipped our toe into filming
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: episode eight, and then we called it. So we have
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: I don't know if they're in the can yet, but
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: we're gonna air apparently seven episodes and then when we can,
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: we're going to get back and finish.
• 16:37
  Speaker 8: The back five.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, I'm excited. So there will be more.
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: So, yeah, there's gonna be more. I think.
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: Oh, gee'z got we're almost halfway through this first part.
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: I know, Yes, it blows my mind.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: It's an amazing Oh.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I remember when the first episode was up and Brandon
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: was like, Babe, we can't go to dinner tonight because
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: billion billion started.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: I was like, bro, and I'm so mad that Brian Koppleman.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: He needs to send me the friggin episode. This is
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: not there that I have to watch it weekly. It
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: is unacceptable and I am going to get him on
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: them today that I need these episodes.
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: Do you want to binge that you prefer to binge this?
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: Yes, I think, don't you see I'm I'm kind of
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: old school. I will binge ship, but I prefer if
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: it's a show I really like. I like the anticipation,
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: and one of the great things is the live tweeting.
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: Oh, I see the.
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: Episode ahead of time and I so, I mean, I
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: know the script obviously spent a few months. I see
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: the episode ahead of time and then I lie tweet
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: with people and it's a blast because the fans are
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: just billions.
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: Fans are smart, and.
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: They're funny, and they're passionate, and they show up every
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: week and it's like that kind of thing that you
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: missed when you do when you do the benching.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I think I agree with that. I just am so
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: on the verge because every every week it ends and
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I'm like going to a depression. I'm like this show.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: That's when he starts pulling up the videos like what
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: he did before we did this podcast, he.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Pulled up the videos.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: And they take you into the room.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Randall is like a little fan girl
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: right now. It's so cute. So, Kelly, we have you
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: on the podcast thanks to Ben Mankowitz because he made
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: the connection.
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: Thank god.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great dude. I was so intimidated when he was
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: on our podcast because he's brilliant. And then I'm looking
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: at your bio and well now I'm looking at your
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: bio and it's mind blowing that you and Ben have
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: something in common and you both come you're both movie
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: buffs and super into the arts, but you also come
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: from a line of politicians.
• 18:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it's true.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: So like I'm always curious, was there pressure for you
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: to like be that type of person or were you
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: always was it? Just like I love to be in
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I love to act, I love the arts, and this
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: is the path I'm going to take.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because your father being as successful as he was.
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he was a congressman, right and there's a I mean,
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: you guys can see it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: There's a picture of him over there over my shoulder. Yeah.
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: I love my dad, very proud of him. So yeah,
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: Ben and I went to high school together. He's one
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: of my best friends. You know, he's one of those
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: friends I actually really like. Yeah, one of those guys.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: But yeah, so Frank Minkwitz, his father, you guys probably
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: talked about it, was involved in politics, Bobby Kennedy's press secretary.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: He found he was the first head of the Peace
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: Corps down in South America.
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: All kinds of great stuff. And my dad was a
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: state representative.
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: For four years and then a in the US House
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: Representatives for eighteen years from nineteen.
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: Seventy four to ninety two.
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: So that was all through my you know, like grade school,
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: high school, and into actually into college. Yeah, I never
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: had any specific pressure from him to do it. We
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: were always an engaged activist family, progressive activism.
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: I mean, I.
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: Wouldn't hide that from anybody, because if you follow my
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: Twitter feed, I get into arguments all the time.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: That's amazing. I gotta follow, I gotta follow.
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: But so I never had any but I never any
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: pressure from him.
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: He and my mom wanted us to study art, work hard,
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: whatever we were going to do, just work fucking hard.
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: And I had a long chunk of time when I
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: was less than I was lazy, and so he got
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: on me, and actually, I think that made me a
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: better actor because I you know, just instilling that work ethic.
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: And I think that one of the reasons why he
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: didn't freak out like a lot of.
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: Parents might about me being an actor is that one
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: of the main things parents worry about is job security.
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: But as a politician and a representative, he could be
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: putted out office every two years, so he didn't really
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: have any jazz, you know, living with doubt was a
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: little bit okay.
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: And then the performative aspects.
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: I don't know if you've noticed that politicians sometimes performers.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: They're the best.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: So I got a lot of stuff from him, I'm sure,
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: and I've played politicians periodically, and I told him I
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: steal from him, you know, mercilessly. But but he's My
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: parents are very supportive.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: That's great.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I love hearing that because I've I grew up around
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the Huntsman family in Utah, and I just remember like
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the men in the family were on the same paths
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: as their dad, as their grandfather, and so I love
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: hearing that. He was like, yeah, go and be be
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: an artist. So what was the what was your first
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: gig that you bucked.
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: I have to now professional gig.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, professional gig.
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: Well, so after I left college, I had a Volkswagen
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: bus and no money really, and I drove around the
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: country with headshots propping off a resumes a different different
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: regional theaters and sleeping in the back of my bus
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: like I was sleeping.
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: I always tell people I slept.
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: In the parking lots of some of the finest hotels
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: in the country.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's amazing.
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: But I ran out of money in Portland, Oregon, which
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: ironically was my hometown, and I crashed at my parents'
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: little one bedroom apartment that they had in Portland because
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: my dad was only there a little bit when he
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: was in town, I'd sleep on the couch and I
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: worked at a steel mill for a month to get
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: money to go to get back to DC.
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: And while I was there, I auditioned for a show.
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: And I got in and I think it was for
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: a couple months later, and the woman was like, Okay, look,
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: I want to hire you, but I don't know who
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: you are.
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: You don't live here, you just said you drove here.
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: I know I can find your father through his office,
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: but are you going to I'm back in three months
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: when this starts, and I said yes, and so she
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: took a.
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: Little risk, and that was my first professional.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Wait what was it? What was that show?
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: It with a play called A Lie of the Mind
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: by Sam Shepard and yeah, yeah, it was a crazy
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: good show. And then two years later I was down
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: at the Oregon Shakespeare Festival and so that was my
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: and that's one of the greatest times in my life.
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: And that some of the first professional life theater I
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: ever saw was at the Orgon Shakespeare Festival, this beautiful
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: outdoor amphitheater and magical mountainee you know, rural, small town Oregon.
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: And so I was there for two years and then
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: and then moved on to la and to be with
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: my wife, et cetera.
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: But those were my.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: First Did you meet your wife while you were in Oregon?
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: I met my wife at Oberlin College actually, so.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, So you guys stayed together while you were Yeah, I.
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: Mean we had you know, we were like cool to
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: see what happens.
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: And she had two more years of school, so I
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: visited periodically. Uh, and she was from Los Angeles, so once,
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: you know, I was like when I was at Ashley
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: and finally she had just graduated and was in LA
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: and we spent two years commuting back and forth.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: So then so then when she graduated, you moved down
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: to LA. You had finished your Shakespeare run basically.
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I had, like there was a third season discussion
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: for me, but it was not like the first season.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: I didn't do much of anything. Second season I had
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: a couple of really nice roles. Third season was going
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: to be just sort of not even stasis. It was
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: like a little bit less, and you know, you I
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: could I saw a path where I could have stayed
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: in this magical place, like really like in my brain
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: as a kid, that was the height of what acting
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: could and should.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Be your purest the purest form.
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and it really and it is just physically magical
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: if you google it and look at the pictures, it's
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: just overwhelmingly beautiful.
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: Summer theater, summer Shakespeare.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: But I wanted to I.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: Wanted to try myself against other things, and I didn't
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: want to regress. So I went down to LA to
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: be famous, and I didn't get a gig for a
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: year and a half.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Were going to that's actually not that long. We're going
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: to take a quick.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Break, but I want to hear. I want to hear that.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Okay, we are back. Randall's spam girling.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Right, all right, I admitted that you don't need to
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: redo it.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. We have Kelly o'coin and he has he's
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: spilling all the tea. And can I tell you I
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: love because see.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Kelly, this is the ship. I don't understand.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I thought, spilling the tea, we drop it on the ground.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: This one with the spilling the tea, I can't.
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: It sounds like a British thing, it does, right.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: What I love that we were just talking about is
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: how you started in the theater. And I find with
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: people my age that are in the industry, there's like
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: this this version of being an actor and in the arts,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: but they try to get to that that point, because
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: what does that mean? When you're on TV. You become
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: a well known person. So you don't find many people
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: my age who are like I did Shakespeare, I was
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: in a play. So I die for the fact that, well,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: that's why you're a phenomenal actor.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Anybody who starts in the theater is like, holy shit,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I could watch them all day.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I agree, so tall the wait, tell real quick. When
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: you came to LA, you struggle for your and aft
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: didn't get a job. What was the first job that
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: set it all off? And then we can get into
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: the epic work from there.
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: So what happened was my wife who was working as
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: a physical therapist ade and was sort of on track
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: to potentially become a physical therapist because she had run
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: track in school and she was.
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: Was a dancer and remains a dancer to this day.
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: Wow, she performed in LA and did some great work,
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: but sort of hit the ceiling. She didn't want to
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: do a date myself, but she wasn't into David Lee
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: Roth videos me the girl on the pole She actually
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: did right.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: She was like a really trained, real dancer like I
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: grew up with in the arts.
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: And they are real.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying they aren't real dancers, but the type
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: of dance that she was interested in, right, and and
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: but even some of the dancers in those videos were
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: but they weren't anyway, you know.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not just l a modern or tap.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: It was like we're saying that she's not shake your
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: ass is give them all with random all right, keep
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: going and so.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: She decided to move to New York, which because she
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: wanted to try herself against the best. And she reminds
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: me constantly that I'm the one when we were in
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: college together that she was like, I'm gonna give dance
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: a year and I'm gonna go into my profession. And
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: as she said, apparently I sort of laughed and was like,
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: you're too good. You're gonna you should really give it
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: as long as you can. Don't give it a year's
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: she did, and that part of moving to New York
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: apparently was because of fully embracing that. I Yeah, she
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: came to New York, and it took like six months
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: of frustration, as it always does. But then she started
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: booking gigs, and she went to Europe a couple of
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: times to do to work, and then she started booking
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: gigs here in New York, and it was slower for me.
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: But after two years or so, I started getting things
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: that were that paid at least a little bit, you know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: early on, but I never and this is okay, So
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: this is where it sort of ties into what you're
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: talking about. Before I never gave a shit about being famous,
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: you know, and even now, like someone says I'm famous.
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: I'm like, no, I'm moderately known.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: You know, I think, really well known at this point
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: you're on the biggest show on TV.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: But well, yeah, okay, so.
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: I didn't give a shit about being famous. I didn't.
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: That's not what I wanted.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: I just wanted to act. I loved acting, and I
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: was like, I can do this. I wanted to make
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: a living. I wanted to be able to eat, have
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: a place to live, and I have to live with
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: my parents and have to borrow from my parents and
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: maybe even help them when they're old, you know. But
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: that's that's what started to happen with theater. It was like,
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: all right, this is a very modest living that I
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: have now for like twelve years here, I didn't have
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: to do anything else though.
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: I didn't have to cater I didn't have to wait tables.
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: And I was happy and then all of it. And
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: that's why people go to New York rather than LA.
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: You know, we might want to do TV, but what
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: when it comes down to it, the one thing we
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: can't live without is theater, right and LA people say,
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, they could be great at theater and they
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: could love theater, but and this is of course gross terms.
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: It's not quite this the bipolar, but it comes the
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: conclusion that I want to focus on the screen. The
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: great thing that happened about ten years ago in New
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: York is screen came to us and we started getting
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: all these great cable shows that were doing like, you know,
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: twelve episodes, eight to twelve episodes, not twenty two to
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: twenty five.
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: So we actually were able to work on shows. The
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: benefit for us was we could work on shows.
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: For twelve months and then do theater, right, you have
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: to do six and six, I mean yeah, And for
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: them was great because their new faces, that the head
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: had not been overused.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: And I want to say something about that.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: You know New York I always say is like, you know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: actors like it makes you great and and and that's
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: the heart of acting in New York. And then you
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: come out to LA and obviously can make you famous.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: But you're right now shows are shooting all over the
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: world that I think that that whole thing is broken
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: down with tax credits and and all that stuff. But
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: what what what was I to say? Oh, I I
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: relate to that because when I came out to LA,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: all I want to do is produce movies. That was
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: my dream. I slept on people's couches. I didn't want
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to be like the big.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Movie for so.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to be able to pay my bills
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: and be on the movie set. I didn't give a
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: ship you know about my name in lights as a producer,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: any of that shit.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: But then once he got a taste of it, Kelly
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: was like, a.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: That's bullshit. I was Kelly for twenty years. I was
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes, and then this one dragged me out
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: of the shadow. So just remember that anyway, Okay, I
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: have a good I have a question that I just
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: think a lot of young actors and young artists coming
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: up want to hear from somebody who is successful. You know,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: what do you recommend to young actors today if they
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: were graduating from college or graduating from high school?
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: And you know, like I grew up.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: I went to Friming Arts High School where Udah Hogen
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: came and trained us, and and we studied high school
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: high school in Miami, New Old School there's we Uda
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Hoggen came twice a year and Meisner and Meisner.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Was what we studied. At sixteen.
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's crazy.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: And my best friend from from an arts high school
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: was Katie Finneran, who won the Tony twice on Broadway.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: So there you go, there you go.
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: So you've got some uh yeah, okay, you've got some peaks.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I love the theater and I'm such a big fan
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: of great actors, but I'm and I'm so removed at
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: that point. You know, from the heart of your craft,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: what what do you recommend today? If somebody's just coming
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: out of Iowa and his passion, what do they do
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: and what do what do you think is the right steps?
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: I mean the business technologically and the business technically, everything
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: about it is so different from when I arrived in
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: New York. So it's hard for me sometimes to give
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: when I get this question, It's hard for me to
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: know what type of actual practical advice, which is what
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: I wanted at the time. I want to give me
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: a roadmap. I just how do I get in there?
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: And I guess the similarity would be that there is
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: no roadmap exactly the things I.
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: Think you need to do, and there was somebody else
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: I was just telling one of these things too. First
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: one though, is create a community as best as you can.
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: Be happy for them and support them and let them
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: help them rise, because you'll rise with them, or at
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: least it can give you hope.
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: That one of my own made it.
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: Try not to be jealous, be ambitious, but don't be
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: competitive as much as you can do that, and that's
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: we're all human, so we're all going to fail at that,
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: But strive for that as much as you can. And
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: sometimes pretending that you're not fucking jealous will actually make.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Me you're not jealous. I love it when I catch
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: myself getting super fucking someone's doing better than I am.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm so happy for you,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I'm like, wow, I feel
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: really good. I am happy for them.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: On the opposite, I know, because she does get very
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: she gets in his zone.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: But I you know, I I just get more competitive.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: But I don't think I get jealous, like on a
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: kind of hater ade kind of level.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: It's just like it's a kind of level.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: No.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: But I think that advice is great.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I think that you're right, Like, like, thanks, babe, you
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: want to keep going.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: You want to keep going today, You're in a today off.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I gotta I don't get to go home. You know
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: It's right here, this is Kelly. Can I tell you?
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: And I'm obviously in no way on a show like Billions.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I caved to reality Billions. No weird, right, I feel
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: like our script is written just as well. I'm just kidding,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: but I.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Feel safety.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: But I feel I feel the same way as when
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: people kind of ask for you know, they do want
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: a roadmap. I still look for a roadop and I
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: think that you gave perfect advice. It's like, take every opportunity,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: compete with yourself and yourself only to do better. I
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: really love the advice that you just gave.
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: And really, if you're not, if you're looking to be famous,
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: then I can't help you because I have no fucking idea.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Agree you're looking to be famous, you need to be
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: crazy and get on a reality TV show, right or yeah, or.
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: Be incredibly I don't know, Instagram famous. Right.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Don't try to be an actor, right, you should not
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: be an actor if you want to be famous.
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: And there are ways, like, look, there are there are
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: are people on Billions, I mean people on Instagram.
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: Everything's Billions. It's like Malcolm.
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: Billions, billions, But there are people on Instagram who actually
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: figure out how to use that medium order to create
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: some fantastic content.
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: So do that if you know how to do that.
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: I'm old. I don't know how to do that.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: I can tweet because I think I'm funny and I
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: can do things short, but Ben would quipple with me
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: being funny. But here's one other thing. And I said
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: this to somebody recently, but it's true. There was a
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: guy at the point at the Oregon Shakespeare Festival, an
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: actor who spent some time in Hollywood and done he'd
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: done some he made some waves, but he chose to
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: be at the festival. But he said, you're gonna have,
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: you know, a bunch of people who say call me,
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: look me up, or come on buy when you get
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: down here. And he said, you say twenty people, do it,
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: eighteen of them you show up, they're gonna be like,
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: who are you?
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: What are you doing here? And you're gonna feel like
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: an asshole.
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: And if you let that feeling of feeling like an
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: asshole keep you once, you had to hit the first
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: three all.
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: Five, three, five of them whatever, They're all like, oh
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: my god, who are you, asshole? They're like, oh, I'm
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: an asshole. I'm not gonna I'm going to ignore the.
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: Rest of the fifteen, but then you can miss those
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: two people who actually will try to help you. Right,
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: So go through the eighteenth. All you have to do
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: is remember that you're not.
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: The asshole they are. Yes, it's hard, it's.
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: Hard to do, and it took me a while, but
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: I finally started following this guy's advice. And that's when
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: I actually met somebody, a casting person who was like,
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: I'm going to recommend it to this other casting person
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: and I started going in one.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Wow, and look at you now.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: But I will say, I will say, our business, Kelly,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: is very They just kind of like don't want to.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: There are a lot of times where I find they
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: don't want to lift you up, they want to just
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: put you down. And I think you have to keep
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: that mentality. I've done it in all these years, where
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: you just got to know who you are, believe in yourself,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: and you'll find those people that do support you, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: those are the people that matter.
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: I think that's right.
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: And actually, even those people who are the asshole, they
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: might not be assholes. They just might not really give
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: a shit about you, and maybe they're busy, maybe there's
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: all kinds of stuff going on. You just with them,
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: and you know, in the moment they might have met
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: it meant it right, but and it makes you feel
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: good to say, look.
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: Me up, I'm gonna help you out.
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: But then you have to do. The real good people
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: will be the ones who back.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: It up, who back it up. But the best feeling
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: in the world I can imagine would be the people
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: that were assholes and then you kind of ignore them
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and you blow the fuck up one day and then
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: they roll up on you and they're like, how have
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you been. You're doing great. It's like, yeah, no, thanks
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: to you.
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: By the way, that sounds a little bit like you
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: might have some experience.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Am I actually puts it on TV, Kelly, it goes
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: a step further.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, but Kelly, I I read that you have done
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: soap operas.
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: When I was first in New York, I think I
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: was on three but literally like two lines, five lines
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: something like that.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, So reality TV now, which okay, I do, is
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: looked at as the modern day soap opera. I like
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: to say that's great, because I love soap opera so
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: perfect label it that. What was the difference being on
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: set on a soap opera and being on set on Billion?
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I gotta know, I gotta loaded question.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Good luck, Kelly. Yeah, I think.
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: I think one of the big things was.
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: I had good experiences on the soap operas because it
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: was my first year in town. I'd just never been
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: on a set before, so for me, it was all
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: just new okay.
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: And there was one that I got.
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: That was supposed to be recurring, and there was kind
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: of a funny, sort of sexy little banster and I
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: was like, oh, cool, Yeah, that means that someone will
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: cast me maybe.
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: To be sexy guys.
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: Cool, you know at the beginning, any affirmation because you
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: don't know, like, am I weird looking?
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: Am I annoying? Am I interesting at all? Am I
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: potentially attractive? Whatever?
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: So those things were actually great about the soaps, I
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: didn't have nearly anything to do.
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: The biggest difference, if I look back on it, because.
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: There was a long break between those and then finally
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: getting to do more TV. Lack of rehearsal because they're
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: putting up an entire show every day, right, so it
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: would be lacking and even you know with TV, with
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: with episodics or you get two weeks even that The problem,
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: not problem, the difference from theater is lack of rehearsal.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: So it really so quick.
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: It's so quick. It's so quick, and the extemporaneous stuff.
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: I mean, I look at soap actors now that I
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: used to accept for very few. I used to be like,
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: well they're kind of wooden. What's that about? And it's like, well,
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: you're fucking they're trying to remember that they have like
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: a three page monologue that they got ten minutes ago. Right,
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: look at them now with that in mind, and they're
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: fucking Olivier right right.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, real quick. We have our producer Tim here as well.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: He's a fan of the show. Tim, would you like
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: to ask a question. I'm gonna give you a moment
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: because I know you're fangirling as well.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: I am definitely fangirling Kelly. It's it's great to meet you.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: All right. He doesn't do too he doesn't know you, no,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I know, Hey, be nice to Tim. Yeah, but I'm
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: the face that's the question on.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: I read that. I think it was your dad that
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: said your career really started to take off once you
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: started shaving your head.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god, that's great. Yeah, he did.
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: My dad.
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: My dad has always been very supportive of it, as
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: I said, and he also is. He's he's long been
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: one of those guys in his various careers, even before politics,
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: that tries to figure out angles, not like in a
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: con man kind of way, but like a strategic sort
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: of way, like presentation.
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: He was a he was an ad man for a while,
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: you know that kind of stuff.
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: He Yeah, I think because I balded in a really
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: awkward way, not.
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: Like guys were just sort of thin.
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: My hair was thick, except in the back of my head,
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: where it was just gone, like the reverse what age.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. I got to tell
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: my buddies to reverse Yamica. That's amazing.
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: It's like someone was golfing on the top of my
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: head and took out a divot. It was just gone.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, Kelly, I guarantee you the name of this episode,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: our producers of Time Warre are going to call it
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: the reverse Yamica.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Already. It's as good as a cats, It's as good.
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: As a Cats.
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: I was probably early thirties, early to mid thirties, and
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: I still had a baby face at that at that point,
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: so it was like this weird sort of thing.
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: It just wasn't working. It was easier for theater, but
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: I had some TV people say the same thing.
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: It's like, you probably should start buzzing his head or
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: get a piece, or get a transplant. I actually went
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: to one of those hair transplant places.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just year, what year? How long ago?
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: Mid I was mid thirties.
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: I don't know, not the mid nineteen thirties, but I
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: was in my mid thirties.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's why they used some poke big holes
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: in your head. Yeah, yeah, you would have had the craters.
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: What he told me.
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: It never occurred to me though. It's like, well, no,
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: we'll do it here now. It was going to cost
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: me like ten fifteen thousand dollars, which I didn't even have.
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: But then you also continue to lose your hair around that,
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: you're gonna have a little island and then you're gonna
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: do it again.
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: And he used the word harvest.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Oh god, harve.
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: From the back of your head. And I'm like, this
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: is a Stephen King novel. I'm out of here.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: That is so fucking gross. And then you just like
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: randomly become a chia pet.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: And by the way, if you look at people's transplants
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: from twenty years ago, it is like a whole punch
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: like you can check it out.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: You could bury yourself into each follicy.
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: Still, okay, So I started shaving my I started shaving
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: my head and it was like that year that I
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: started just I don't know, there was something about my
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: face that evened out in people's perspective.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I guess I really dig the big head. I think, yeah,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I think you look great.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think he looks great.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: But I think you're right.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: But I'm a fat Jew. Fat Jews can't have a
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: ball dead. I would, I would be dead.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: It'd be humpy, dumb, dean steroids. Oh no, I would never.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: I'll pay a million dollars to keep my hair before
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: I go bald.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: It's never gonna happen.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: No good, your hair.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Your chiseled and I and I've got like family underneath
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: my chin.
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: So you're a handsome son of a bit.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Oh that was cute. I love that fun Kelly Kelly
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: quick question.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I don't want to run out of time.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: You work with Peter Burg, which I financed and produced
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Loan Survivor The king.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: How, Yes, Yes, I did.
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: You did The Kingdom?
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: No, I did? I did Loan Survivor. You did The Kingdom?
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I did? Yeah?
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, yeah, because you think I would.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I would have seen you, Kelly, I would have seen you.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, but tell me tell me that experience and and Spielberg,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: tell me those two.
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: It was fantastic. It was on location and I love
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: I always love going away. I love hotels. I love
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: being on locations.
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: Like love it. Uh yeah.
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: And I got to take a van like forty five
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: minutes or a half hour or something to set and
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: back every day with Anna Devere Smith and Richard Jenkins,
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: and there was one it was just Richard Jenkins.
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: And I am such a huge fan of both of those.
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: Anna Deavere Smith is a theater god and Richard Jenkins,
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: I'm sure has done tons of theater, but but he's
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: a TV movie guy.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: The greatest, the greatest.
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: I got to hang out with these guys and.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: For an hour every day, for an hour every day.
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: For an hour every day, and the last time, the
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: last half hour ride after we were done shooting a
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: day early, which was a bummer to me.
• 44:24
  Speaker 8: I'm sure Peter Berg loved it.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: He's fast, by the way, on Los Rivory finished five
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: days early, five days.
• 44:29
  Speaker 8: That's incredible. He was fast, and he was great.
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: He would throw lines to you and everything, and he
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: had Jamie Fox and me like up in each other's face.
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: Was like playing with Jamie FOXX.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: Awesome.
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: But so on the ride home, Jenkins was like, hey,
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: let's get a drink at the hotel afterwards, and I
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: was like, great, yeah, I just have to call my
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: wife and I meet you in half an hour.
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: And so I called my wife and she was like,
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: up in the room, she said, what are you doing?
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: Is Richard Jenkins? Go down, I have a drink with him.
• 44:56
  Speaker 8: He's like my favorite actor in the world. Go tell
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: him that your your wife loves him.
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: So I went down and he didn't show up because
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: I think I misspoke. I think he thought that I
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: was saying.
• 45:07
  Speaker 8: I can I have like half an hour? Then I
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: got to call my wife. Oh, so I didn't get
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: to have my drink with this.
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: And he's like one of my favorite actors in the world.
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: And we liked each other and he liked.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Me, but he doesn't like, I bet he doesn't talk
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: to you anymore.
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I bet he didn't. Like.
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure he remembers that guy who stood him
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: up in the Arizona Hotel.
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: He's the guy in that minor role.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: So I'm just talking because we're both been sitting on
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: the bench now for the last two months with COVID.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Just to update you, there was an article that I
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: just had come out in Deadline that I did where
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: I was directing my first movie in Puerto Rico with
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Megan Fox and Bruce Willis and Emel Hurst all these people,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: and we got shut down. We are doing our final
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: UH interview next week with SAG, which were optimistic that
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: they hopefully will sign off and then we can go
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: back to work in the IA, which we also need
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: their protocols. They're saying around June first they're going to
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: release their so hopefully hopefully in June between the both unions,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: they are encouraging all of us safely of course, to
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: go back to work, so not gun Wood. Also, I
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  Speaker 3: told you no fucking around. I'm sending you a script
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  Speaker 3: today because I need you in my movies.
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  Speaker 2: You're just talking.
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  Speaker 8: Would you'd make my day?
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  Speaker 1: Just wheeling and dealing. That's what we do here. We
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: picked the brain and then we give movie roles.
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  Speaker 8: That's good luck. I hope that works out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really OPTI by the way, I'm optimistic, and
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  Speaker 3: I said for the whole industry, because you know, our industry, theater, film, television,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: whatever it is, is dying.
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  Speaker 2: We've all been you know. You know it's brutal.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's brutal for people that I know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: our working paycheck to paycheck, and I just want us
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  Speaker 3: to go back to work so that we can you know,
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  Speaker 3: as a community, we work. We're artists, and we don't
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: do well not creating. And I know we've done the
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: best we can with with where we are, but we
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  Speaker 3: just we all want to go back to work.
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  Speaker 8: So and most of us, yeah, and most of us
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: are workaholics. Yeah. People look at creatives, I hate that term.
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: It sounds pretentious, but they look at creatives as sort
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: of like like lazy and lucie, and it's like, no,
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: we just want to work. It's the opposite, the opposite,
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: the opposite.
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  Speaker 3: And I agree, and I think that all artists right now,
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  Speaker 3: whether you're a filmmaker or actor or whatever. We're just
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: all we want to do is we want to be safe,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: but we want to go back to work. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: optimistic for us all.
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  Speaker 1: I had the best time having you on today.
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  Speaker 2: Kelly.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 5: This is good.
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  Speaker 8: You guys are a black I'm serious. I haven't laughed
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  Speaker 8: as much since quarantine.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's so appreciated that you came on, and we
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  Speaker 1: hope that you have the best day ever.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Kelly, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see you on Billions.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you, guys.
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