Latest / The Path Went Chilly / Geetha Angara Pt. Two
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- 0:30Welcome back to the Path Went Chile for part two of our series about the
- 0:34unexplained death of Gita Angara. Robin, do you want to catch everyone up
- 0:38of what we talked about in our previous episode? Well, our victim here
- 0:42is Geeta Angara, a forty three year old chemist who originally hailed from India.
- 0:47She graduated top of her class at Loyola College, and after emigrating to
- 0:51the United States with her husband, she had three kids and got a bachelor's
- 0:55degree and a master's degree in chemistry and then got a job at the treatment
- 0:59facility for the Passaic Valley Water Commission in New Jersey. She had a high
- 1:03position as senior or chemist, seemed to be well liked in her position,
- 1:07though apparently there was some resentment from a few people who did not like a
- 1:11female immigrant having a higher position than them, though it doesn't sound like it
- 1:15led to any serious problems. But one day at work, Gita went down
- 1:18into the basement for what should have been a routine assignment, but she never
- 1:21returned and no one could find her, and she was eventually reported missing.
- 1:26And then they discovered that because a panel on one of the floors in the
- 1:29basement had been tampered with. They looked into it and found a water tank
- 1:33which contained some of Gita's personal items, and it would later turn out that
- 1:37her body floated to another tank and that her exact cause of death was drowning.
- 1:42However, because she has bruised on her body, it seemed apparent that
- 1:45someone had assaulted her and attempted to strangle her and probably unscrewed the panel,
- 1:49put her body into the tank and then screwed the panel back on to cover
- 1:53up what they did. There was a Scottish expert on drowning who looked at
- 1:57the possibility that Guta's death could have been an accident, that maybe someone left
- 2:01the panel open and she was walking through the basement and fell through, and
- 2:06then later on someone went back and screwed the panel back on in order to
- 2:09cover up what she had done. But the vast majority of people, including
- 2:14DA's family, believed that she was the victim of a homicide and that she
- 2:16was killed intentionally. Obviously, because of this security surrounding the plant, it
- 2:21meant that one of her co workers had to be the killer, and they
- 2:23determined that there were fifty employees working on the day that she went missing.
- 2:29They did it eventually narrow things down to three suspects, but a couple of
- 2:32years later they suddenly said, well, we couldn't find any evidence on them,
- 2:36and now we no longer believe that they were responsible. So it sounds
- 2:39like the investigation is right back to square one. And even though it seems
- 2:44obvious she was killed by someone who was at the plant that day, they
- 2:47just don't have any evidence to conclusively implicate anyone, and the motive for the
- 2:52crime is still a mystery. So if you're an unsolved mystery span, you
- 2:55might have noticed that this story is very reminiscent of the suspicion death of Dave
- 3:00Box, which was featured on the show, as well as an episode of
- 3:04The Trail Went Cold and an entire season of the long form investigative podcast Accused.
- 3:08In both of these cases, an employee disappeared during the middle of their
- 3:13shift at a large plant and was not reported missing for a long period of
- 3:16time before the victim or what was left to them, was discovered on company
- 3:21grounds. In one case, it was a uranium processing furnace and in the
- 3:25other it was a water tank, but no matter the circumstances of how they
- 3:29died, you could only hope the victim was not conscious when they found themselves
- 3:32in that position. Now, Dave Box was working the graveyard shift and died
- 3:38inside a building which was not being used at that particular time of night,
- 3:42so if it was a homicide, you can understand how someone could have gotten
- 3:45away with it. However, Geta Angara's death was a lot more brazen since
- 3:50it apparently took place in an open corridor during the morning hours, so the
- 3:53perpetrator got extremely lucky that no one else happened to come by while this was
- 3:58going on. While a suicide has been explored as a potential explanation in the
- 4:02Dave Box case, no one has ever considered that possibility in Geeta's case,
- 4:08because if she jumped into the water tank voluntarily, it obviously would have been
- 4:12impossible for her to slide the panel back in place behind her. Theoretically,
- 4:16that detail should have eliminated all possibility of her death being an accident as well,
- 4:21But this has actually been presented as a potential explanation, and we'll talk
- 4:26more about that later on. Now. Dave Box's story has always had a
- 4:30major conspiracy vibe surrounding it, because in the months following his death, his
- 4:34plan experienced a major scandal once it became public knowledge that they have been causing
- 4:40radioactive contamination in the surrounding community. So one of the most prominent theories is
- 4:45that Dave was murdered because he was threatening to blow the whistle on the plant's
- 4:48unsafe practices. This has been presented as a potential theory in Gheta's case as
- 4:54well, but it's unclear what she could have stumbled upon that put her life
- 4:58in danger. During this time period, the water facility was in the midst
- 5:02of an expensive project to transition from chlorine to an ozone disinfectant system. But
- 5:08while this wasn't a popular decision with all the employees, it was hardly scandalous,
- 5:14believe it or not. One of the most ridiculous theories which has been
- 5:16pushed forward is that the New Jersey Mob was angry about the Water Commission's decision
- 5:21to switch to ozone treatment because it would curtail what their contractors were doing,
- 5:27so as a result, the mob decided to order a hit on Geita.
- 5:31Well, that theory makes no sense whatsoever, because Guita was a chemist who
- 5:35had no authority to make big decisions like that. So I don't see how
- 5:39murdering her would change anything. No, I'm going to go ahead and let
- 5:44everyone know the mob didn't hire anyone to kill her. That is a pure
- 5:49conspiracy theory kind of sounding idea. But when you do think about what was
- 5:55going on at the plant, it is very clear that Gita stands out out
- 6:00amongst the other employees. She's incredibly educated, she immigrated to America. She
- 6:05is one of the only women likely at this plant, and she's in a
- 6:09place of a supervisory role. And so when there's issues at the plant,
- 6:14she's the one who's calling employees in. She's the one asked to retrain them,
- 6:19she's the one offering disciplinary actions and things like that when they need to
- 6:24happen. And so she's already a target there. She's confirmed that with her
- 6:29husband. She said there's tension in the workplace when they talk about it being
- 6:32an accident. Could it have been? There is a possibility, right,
- 6:36It makes sense if she accidentally fell in and someone later came after she had
- 6:42already passed away or was unconscious, they could have screwed that plate back on
- 6:46the same could have happened if she was a suicidal individual, I assume,
- 6:49because she could have been deceased and someone walks in and finds that plate move.
- 6:55But it makes so much more sense that someone wanted her gone. They
- 6:59didn't lie like the position she was in. They didn't like the way she
- 7:01had authority over them, they felt insecure, they didn't like her as a
- 7:04racial minority, they didn't like her as a woman. We know those things
- 7:09were active. So then when you have her death and then her body recovered
- 7:13thirty two hours later, especially with the bruising, it feels like we're pointing
- 7:17more towards foul play. In my opinion, it feels like it could have
- 7:21been something as simple as Gita was going to collect this water sample and she
- 7:26ran into somebody and maybe had a few words with that person, maybe implying
- 7:31that they were doing something wrong, or that is how they interpreted it,
- 7:35and they didn't like it coming from her, and that it was an impulsive
- 7:40crime of passion rather than something that was pre planned. I mean, the
- 7:45beaker was broken there, obviously, if she was killed, there was not
- 7:49some other weapon, Like we didn't see any blunt force injuries. So if
- 7:54she was strangled and then put in a water tank. It was likely that
- 7:57somebody just lost their temper, and who knows if it was from some kind
- 8:01of verbal exchange or just something that had been building and maybe at that moment
- 8:05just seeing her face was enough for this person to snap. I really don't
- 8:09get the sense that there's a massive conspiracy surrounding Gyda's death, and the crime
- 8:15may have been more personal in nature. This case is pretty unique in that
- 8:18it seems to be pretty solvable, yet at the same time, it's also
- 8:22an investigator's worst nightmare. By the sound of things, the exterior security at
- 8:28the plant was pretty strong and it would have been very difficult for an outside
- 8:31intruder to sneak into the facility and commit this crime. This means that the
- 8:37perpetrator had to be one of Gita's coworkers who was on shift that day.
- 8:41So there's a pool of fifty potential suspects to work with, But at the
- 8:46same time, there really doesn't seem to be any conclusive evidence which could implicate
- 8:50any of them. Since there was a window of over twelve hours before the
- 8:54police became involved, a number of people walked through the basement tunnels past the
- 8:58spot where Gita was likely killed, contaminating the crime scene. Contaminating the crime
- 9:05scene. The shards of glass on the floor from Gda's broken beaker could have
- 9:09provided evidence, but someone took the initiative to throw them away, and due
- 9:13to the heavy chlorination of the water, all potential forensic evidence which could have
- 9:18been left by the killer on Gita's body, such as DNA and fingerprints,
- 9:22were eliminated. With no witness or security camera footage placing a suspect at the
- 9:28murder scene, I think the police were hoping that if they interrogated everyone hard
- 9:33enough, the perpetrator would eventually break down and make a full confession, but
- 9:37this never took place. For a while, investigators were certain that they had
- 9:41narrowed down the field to three suspects, but after all these years, they
- 9:46apparently now believed that none of these guys were actually involved. So unless a
- 9:50confession takes place or someone with inside knowledge of the crime comes forward with information,
- 9:58it's really hard to see how the police police will be able to build
- 10:01a strong enough case against anyone to make an arrest. It kind of boggles
- 10:05my mind too, when you think about there were fifty people there that day
- 10:07and they were able to narrow it down to three. We don't know a
- 10:11lot about that information. The one guy was down in that area, so
- 10:15it was pretty clear he would be one of the people you'd question. But
- 10:18I'm wondering if the other two, if fellow employees were able to say they
- 10:22had a problem with her, right there was tension with her, and that's
- 10:26how they were even brought to the forefront in the first place. Yeah,
- 10:30I really wonder about that. I can understand police not releasing that information publicly,
- 10:33but when they say we've narrowed it down from fifty to eight, and
- 10:37now we've narrowed it down to three, I have to guess that they came
- 10:39to this conclusion just from maybe people other employees telling them that these people had
- 10:43a problem with the GITA and could have had a motive to kill her.
- 10:48While securities protocols preventing outsiders from entering the plant seemed to be adequate, security
- 10:54protocols inside the plant were a different story. Since no key card access was
- 10:58required at the time, anyone could move about the plant freely and pretty much
- 11:01go wherever they wanted. They've since remedied that in the years following Gita's death,
- 11:07but investigators have stated that if these security protocols have been around all along,
- 11:11it would have been easier to track all of the employee's movements that day
- 11:15and possibly determine who is in the basement during the approximate time period Gita was
- 11:20killed. It's pretty unsettling to hear that the underground water tanks were not equipped
- 11:24with any lighting or ladders, even though there was a five foot gap between
- 11:28the water and the panels, so if someone did fall in there by accident,
- 11:33it would have been impossible for them to climb out before they succumbed the
- 11:37freezing cold temperatures. In addition, the sensor, which was designed to send
- 11:41out alerts about changes with the water displacement, just happened to be broken that
- 11:46day, which is why it didn't go off when Gita's body hit the water.
- 11:50It's possible it was deliberately sabotaged by the perpetrator, but if the sensor
- 11:54was simply broke in, that's really not reassuring. Remember this was just over
- 11:58three years removed from nine to eleven, and one disturbing point which was raised
- 12:03is if the sensor couldn't detect a body. What if there had been an
- 12:07attempt at a terrorist act and someone dumped some dangerous chemicals into the drinking water.
- 12:11Obviously, Yita's death exposed some major inadequacies with the plant safety protocols,
- 12:18and that alone would have been grounds for her family to say, listen,
- 12:22you were responsible in many ways for even allowing her body to sit in that
- 12:26water for so long, right, and for the aftermath that came with that,
- 12:31because had that sensor been working, had those protocols been checked and that
- 12:35was working, the moment her body hit that water, the alarms would have
- 12:41gone off. So God forbid it was an accident. God forbid, she
- 12:43had been rendered unconscious but was still alive. Someone could have run to that
- 12:48tank and removed her body and saved her life. And so it really was
- 12:54that sensor alone could have been a deciding factor whether she was able to get
- 12:58retrieved from that tank or not. And so since there wouldn't be going off
- 13:03for hours without someone checking it, someone would have immediately run down there because,
- 13:07like you said, at the time, they would have been on alert
- 13:09for any potential risk of something foreign going into that water. And that is
- 13:15true because Geta's exact cause of death was drowning, so she technically was still
- 13:20alive when she first went into the water. We don't know if she was
- 13:22still conscious or not. But like you said, if the sensor had gone
- 13:26off, there still would have been a chance to rescue her and save her
- 13:28life if they had gotten there in time. Oh. Absolutely, you hear
- 13:31a people who have been underwater for a couple of minutes, right and are
- 13:35still rescued, and so a plant like that, response would be quick.
- 13:39When they thought, okay, the rates have the levels of water have gone
- 13:43this much over the sensor, something's really problematic down there, there'd be a
- 13:48massive rush to get to that tank. And we know when it comes to
- 13:52asphyxiating somebody or strangling them that it can take like three four minutes, so
- 13:56it can take an inordinate amount of time. I'm more time than I think
- 14:01that most people prepare to be in a position with their hands around somebody's neck
- 14:05or using a ligature. So it's possible that whomever her attacker was, they
- 14:11thought, okay, well she's rendered unconscious. At least if she isn't dead
- 14:15by the time she hits that water, she'll die from drowning. I also
- 14:20find it troubling that there was a window of over six hours during Geita's shift
- 14:24when her whereabouts were unaccounted for, but no one really seemed to be troubled
- 14:30by it, and the police were not contacted until several hours after her shift
- 14:33ended. I mean, when Gita went missing, she was carrying a radio
- 14:37which wound up being found inside the tank, but it's not clear if anyone
- 14:43even attempted to call her on the radio to see where she was. Even
- 14:46if there was only one person who was directly involved in Gita's death, this
- 14:50makes me wonder if others might have been aware of what happened but kept their
- 14:54mouths shut. The panel to the water tank weighed about fifty pounds. It
- 15:00would have been difficult for one person to remove it, dump get it into
- 15:03the tank, and then replace the panel by themselves. So even if only
- 15:07one person killed her, they could have enlisted the assistance of others to cover
- 15:11the whole thing up. You can't understand how unsettling this whole situation must have
- 15:16been for everyone at the plant. It was conclusively established that Geta's killer had
- 15:22to be one of the fifty employees working there that day, which men from
- 15:26that point on, they all had to keep showing up with the knowledge that
- 15:30at least one of their co workers was a murderer and continuing to get away
- 15:35with it. I heard the morale at the plant went down following Gita's death,
- 15:39and I can certainly understand why, as I'm sure many of the employees
- 15:43felt they had to constantly look over their shoulders. I definitely would think there's
- 15:48a concern there when you have fifty employees who realized that their supervisor has been
- 15:54found in a water tank. They have no idea, just like we're sitting
- 15:58here years later with no answers. They have no idea what happened to her,
- 16:03and so I would assume that they also learned she had bruising on her.
- 16:07The family was likely outspoken that they believed it was a murder, and
- 16:10so the people who are looking around there going, well, if it's a
- 16:14murder, it was one of us, and it is. It's like that
- 16:15game of clue where there's only this many people in the house and we have
- 16:21a deceased individual who did it, and it would be that constant fear of
- 16:25if we can't figure out what happened to her. Then we make all of
- 16:27these assumptions and we're looking back and forth saying it's one of us. So
- 16:32am I safe out word? Remember that episode we recorded a few months ago
- 16:37about the death of Rodney Marx at the research station in Antarctica. Yes,
- 16:41yes, And even though we don't know for certain if that's a homicide,
- 16:45you can still imagine the fear that, well, if it was a murderer.
- 16:48We're trapped here in the middle of nowhere for a couple more months,
- 16:51and at least one of these people is a murderer, so we're going to
- 16:53have to constantly look over our shoulder and be frightened for months. And yeah,
- 16:59thinking he was poisoned or something. I've got to sit here and eat
- 17:02and drink around you people like yeah, I'm pretty sure. We all kept
- 17:06saying that it was like the plot of a horror movie, like there was
- 17:08no way in or out. We talked about that doctor that basically had to
- 17:12perform like a biopsy or a lumbaectomy or whatever and like treat her breast cancer
- 17:18at that station. It's just so intense to be trapped there with a potential
- 17:22murderer. Oof and it's kind of the same thing here where it's like,
- 17:27even though they still got to pay the bills, So even though they're showing
- 17:30up to work potentially with a murderer, they still have to keep doing it
- 17:33whether they like it or not. It seems like the majority consensus about Ghita
- 17:38was that she was a very dependable and well liked person at the plant,
- 17:42but there have been quotes from anonymous sources about how some of Ghita's co workers
- 17:47resented her because of her education and qualifications and did not appreciate being a subordinate
- 17:52for an immigrant. No matter who was responsible, it sounds like investigators have
- 17:56always believed this was not a premeditated murder her, but more of a spur
- 18:00of the moment crime the passion. After all, Yita had strangulation marks on
- 18:06her neck, which seems to imply that the perpetrator had no weapon on them
- 18:08and was trying to fatally choke her. And since drowning was her exact cause
- 18:12of death, Guita was technically still alive when she was thrown into the tank.
- 18:18We know that Gita was heading down into the basement to calibrate the instruments
- 18:22when she disappeared, so it seems like she must have crossed paths with her
- 18:26killer in the corridor, who subsequently attacked her before they removed the floor panel
- 18:30and dumped her body into the tank. But what could have caused things to
- 18:33escalate like this? Did Gita bump into someone and get into a heated confrontation
- 18:38which led to violence, or did she stumble upon something she wasn't supposed to
- 18:41see which led to her being killed. Do you guys remember the pink stuff
- 18:47that they were finding in the water. Did they ever determine what that was?
- 18:49Because is it possible someone was manipulating and doing something to the system that
- 18:55caused that contamination and they're saying, oh what now, we can't use this
- 18:59new system. It doesn't work right, like causing a problem, And maybe
- 19:03someone was down there doing something like that. I'm not exactly sure what the
- 19:07pinkish substance was, but I do know they found it when Geta was absent,
- 19:11So it could be one of those things where someone was doing something while
- 19:15she wasn't around and she was trying to maybe I'd cover the truth about it,
- 19:18like try to figure out what was going on here, and maybe someone
- 19:22got paranoid and decided to kill her for it. It was established that one
- 19:27of Gita's coworkers from the lab asked her to go down into the basement and
- 19:32later went to search for her, where he discovered the broken glass from Geta's
- 19:36beaker. Under these circumstances, you can understand why this guy would have been
- 19:41one of the three employees that police zeroed in on as a potential suspect,
- 19:45But they apparently no longer believe that any of these three men were involved.
- 19:49Without knowing anything else about this lab technician or his relationship with Gita, or
- 19:55potential motives for wanting to harm her, I cannot evaluate the likely of him
- 20:00being the perpetrator. One detail I do find interesting is that before this incident
- 20:06took place, some of the plant's employees claimed they had no idea there were
- 20:10tanks underneath the basement floor and walked through that area numerous times without even realizing
- 20:15there were millions of gallons of water below them. But obviously Guida's killer would
- 20:21have known this since they went to the trouble of removing a panel and disposing
- 20:25of her body. Considering that many of the screws on the panel were broken
- 20:29or missing, and it was left slightly Ajar. I get the impression that
- 20:33whoever did this was in a hurry for fear that someone else would enter the
- 20:37corridor and catch them. So I'm assuming that when investigators were narrowing down their
- 20:41pool of suspects, they focused on employees who might have had knowledge of those
- 20:45tanks and the panels. Another odd detail of this case is that they filmed
- 20:51an episode of Law and Order spu at the plant one year earlier, which
- 20:55contained a scene where a victim's body was found floating inside a water tank.
- 21:00As you probably know, the bread and butter of the entire Law and Order
- 21:03franchise a fictitious storylines which are based on real life crimes from the news.
- 21:07Well, this is a rare occurrence where the real life crime occurred after the
- 21:11Law and Order episode. Of course, the whole thing is probably just a
- 21:15coincidence, as investigators found no indication that Getah's death was some sort of copycat
- 21:22crime. But I can help but wonder if the perpetrator might have seen the
- 21:26episode and remembered it, which is how they came up with the idea of
- 21:29hiding Geta's body inside a water tank. That gave me chills when you said
- 21:34that this was a Law and Order episode, and did you say it was
- 21:38filmed at the facility it was, Yeah, so that's just crazy. Oh
- 21:44my lord, Yes, that seems really odd. It's also very eerie.
- 21:49I don't know, is it that a copycat? Is it? Like you
- 21:52said, in the heat of the moment, they said, what do I
- 21:53do with her body? And they said, well, wait, we were
- 21:56here when they were filming, and they dumped her in the water tank.
- 21:59I'm going to go ahead and do that. It seems way too ironic for
- 22:04that to be a coincidence. Yeah. Are you aware, Robin, if
- 22:10all the employees knew that the plant was used to film that Lawn Order episode.
- 22:15That's a good question, because it's possible that they filmed while the plant
- 22:19was closed and none of the employees were there because they didn't want to disrupt
- 22:25work. But I have to think that they were at least aware of it,
- 22:27and that they probably some of them would have at least watched the episode
- 22:30and realized, hey, that's where I work. So I'm sure sure it
- 22:34was probably common knowledge. I would think they'd know, like here they filmed
- 22:40like a ghost Hunter episode, you know, at the local hotel, and
- 22:44everyone was like, Oh my gosh, they're filming at the hotel on Thursday.
- 22:45This is so cool. I wish I was on you know, the
- 22:48schedule that day, and so I would think it was quite a big deal,
- 22:52especially such a large show. This isn't like a mom and pop production
- 22:56company coming into film a forty five second you know promo. This is a
- 23:00Law and Order episode. So I bet they were all quite aware and quite
- 23:06excited and then able to say like, oh my gosh, that's my office.
- 23:07Holy cow, that's where I go down every day, right, And
- 23:11I bet people were quite hyped up about the facility being featured on the show,
- 23:15which would lead us to believe that probably if everybody the plan knew about
- 23:19this, they likely all watched the episode. Because if your workplace is featured
- 23:23on a show like Law and Order, SBU, I think you would actually
- 23:27want to see that episode and then talk about it later with everybody at work.
- 23:32And that's why it's not implausible that it could have been on the killer's
- 23:34mind when they were thinking of a way to dispose of Geita's body. Well,
- 23:40investigators actually looked through the possibility that Geta's death might have been connected to
- 23:44another similar unsolved homicide which took place in New Jersey over thirty six years earlier.
- 23:51The crime occurred on August the thirty first, nineteen sixty eight, at
- 23:53a massive eighty six building campus for the Hoffman Laroche pharmaceutical firm, which was
- 23:59Lowald on the Passaic County Essex County border. That evening, the body of
- 24:03a twenty two year old secretary named Joan Freeman was found in the hallway of
- 24:07building number thirty four. She was struck on the hedge several times with a
- 24:11wooden mallet before her throat was slashed. Joan had been employed by the firm
- 24:17for three years, and since it was a Saturday, she was working there
- 24:19alone doing overtime. She had spent the day in a second floor library recording
- 24:25the employee's work hours from their time cards before she was attacked from behind in
- 24:29the hallway. Much like the Passaic Valley Water Commission treatment facility, the Hoffman
- 24:34Laroche campus had a high level of security and was surrounded by fences, so
- 24:38access was restricted to employees, meaning that Jan's killer had to be someone who
- 24:44worked for the company. However, there were no fingerprints found in the wooden
- 24:47mallets, and the knife was never found, so investigators had no forensic evidence
- 24:52to identify a suspect. They also found nothing in Joan's background to provide any
- 24:56insight into a potential motive for this crime. Over the course of the next
- 25:00several months, a grand jury investigation would take place, though I get the
- 25:04impression they did not have a specific suspect in mind and only wanted to test
- 25:10the waters to see what kind of case they could present if the suspect ever
- 25:14popped up on the radar. But even though over three hundred people were interviewed,
- 25:18the investigation hit a complete dead end, and Joan's murder is still unsolved
- 25:22to this day. Given that both crimes took place in Passaic Valley, the
- 25:26investigators on Geta's case thought there were enough similarities to look into the possibility that
- 25:32they were connected. They checked to see if there were any employees who had
- 25:36worked for both Hoffman Laroche and the water treatment facility during the respective time periods
- 25:41of each murder that came up empty, and yes, given the massive time
- 25:45difference, I am inclined to believe that these two crimes are not connected,
- 25:48because, at the minimum Guta's killer would have had to have been in their
- 25:52late fifties if they were also responsible for murdering Joan Well. Joan Freeman's case
- 25:57sounds like a pretty baff mystery in its own right. I get the feeling
- 26:02that investigators only looked at her murder because they were grasping its straws and desperate
- 26:07to explore any possible lead to help them solve Geeta's case. Yeah, it
- 26:11does seem like a little bit of a stretch. Are they ironically similar?
- 26:15Yes, I mean, you have an unsolved murder in a workplace, no
- 26:18forensic evidence to go off of. But other than that, you know one's
- 26:22attacked, one strangled, and you have a thirty six year gap. And
- 26:27so while you definitely do have killers who have killed over the course of decades,
- 26:33to say that you can successfully pull it off in an isolated, confined
- 26:37workplace over and over and over again and get away with it so seamlessly,
- 26:42I think that would be quite implausible. However, the big complicating factor in
- 26:48this case is the theory that Gita could have accidentally fallen into the water tank
- 26:52her self because someone left the panel open during the early stages of the investigation,
- 26:59no one was even willing to entertain that notion, because well, who
- 27:03would have put the panel back in place after she fell in. It seems
- 27:07this idea gained traction when Scottish forensic pathologist Derek Pounder pushed forward the possibility that
- 27:12the cold temperature of the water caused hemorrhaging on Guita's neck, which could have
- 27:18been mistaken for strangulation mars. But there are numerous fallacies with this theory,
- 27:22and by Pounder's own admission, this type of thing only occurs in a small
- 27:27percentage of drowning cases, and technically Pounder was only presenting a hypothetical scenario without
- 27:33actually looking at Gita's body or the autopsy reports, whereas the five pathologists who
- 27:40did perform a full examination concluded that she was likely the victim of a homicide.
- 27:45I think this theory has gained more traction since the former lead detected James
- 27:49Wood, went on the record claiming the Pounder's assessment caused him to change his
- 27:53mind and he now believes that Geeda's death was an accident. Well, you
- 27:59have to take into account that Wood made the statement after his retirement, and
- 28:03no homicide detective wants to end their career with an unsolved murder still on the
- 28:07books. So maybe this was his way of rationalizing the whole situation. Well,
- 28:14if I could go home and enjoy retirement and not think about the cases
- 28:18that haunt me, right, because you don't want to go off of your
- 28:22career with unsolved murders lingering. They're people and they matter, and a lot
- 28:26of these detectives really do carry those people with them. So if he could
- 28:30say, listen, a scientist comes forward. He says that he thinks it
- 28:33is a drowning. He said, there's cases like this. I'm just gonna
- 28:37go with that, like I could see that being a peace of mind thing.
- 28:41But I also when you talk about Pounder, he didn't look at her
- 28:45body. Yes, have there been a few cases where there's bruising on the
- 28:49neck according to Pounder, Yes, But again we talked about this. I
- 28:53believe on episode one where to have her sitting in that position for so long
- 29:00that that cold water is going to create just a simple ring around her neck
- 29:03of strangulation. I don't buy that. I think you would have either multiple
- 29:11rings showing when she got more and more tired and going below the water more
- 29:15and more even bruising on her face when she just has her mouth above water
- 29:18trying to breathe. Unless she was rendered unconscious before she was put into that
- 29:25water and via strangulation and wasn't actually bobbing in the water, But if she
- 29:32was fighting for her life, I think there would be different kind of marks,
- 29:34maybe even more bruising where she's trying to hit the side of the tank
- 29:38and crawl out. Just I'm not buying it. I think when you have
- 29:44five people who actually got to see her body and then you have Pounder who
- 29:48didn't, and it is just saying, well, once I saw this case
- 29:51where this happened, I'm not going to pin my career in a conclusion of
- 29:55a case on that assessment. The other ammunition for this theater is the anonymous
- 30:00plant insider who claimed that a water quality supervisor may have removed a panel from
- 30:04the basement corridor's floor to collect water samples on the day of Keita's death,
- 30:10providing a potential explanation for how she could have stepped in there accidentally. The
- 30:15evidence seemed to show that the panel had been put back in place very hastily,
- 30:18so theoretically, if the responsible party returned to the scene and discovered the
- 30:22Gheeta drowned. Because of their own negligence, they could have replaced the panel
- 30:26and kept their mouth shut about what they did. I mean, this plant
- 30:30obviously had serious internal issues with their safety protocols, so I cannot completely discount
- 30:34the possibility that a scenario like this took place. I know that one of
- 30:38the three potential suspects investigators focused on was a supervisor, though it's unclear if
- 30:44it might have been the same old school water quality supervisor. This anonymous insider
- 30:48was referring to. If a person is indirectly responsible for someone's death by negligence,
- 30:53but is interrogated as if they committed an intentional homicide, you have to
- 30:59wonder if them might affect their demeanor. I know that James Woods said he
- 31:03believed that one of the suspects was on the verge of cracking and making a
- 31:06confession before he stopped talking to the police. So could this person have been
- 31:11overwhelmed with guilt because they were responsible for Ghita's death even though it was purely
- 31:15accidental. I mean, I assume you could be, but you would really
- 31:19pray that people's moral compass would say, oh my god, there's this poor
- 31:23family. There's three children and a husband who are wondering what happened. I
- 31:27messed up, Like I removed that panel this morning, and I want to
- 31:33tell them what happened, because what if it was the panel falling through or
- 31:37she stepped on it and she fell into the water. I don't know.
- 31:41Maybe I'm an odd ball, but I feel like I would say, this
- 31:45is so accidental? Could it have been my fault? Like I almost feel
- 31:48like I'd come forward and be like they found her body down there there was
- 31:51a panel missing, Oh my god, I moved a panel this morning.
- 31:55Was it that panel? And give information if it's accidental? I don't.
- 32:00Yes, someone passed away, But when there's an accident like that, you're
- 32:02not going to be charged with murder or something because you didn't screw a panel
- 32:08on tight enough. It was a workplace accident and the company would get in
- 32:13trouble, but you're not. I don't. I don't know. I guess
- 32:16a lot of people cover their own skin before they do the right thing,
- 32:19but you'd pray that that wouldn't be the case when a mother dies and people
- 32:23are wondering what the heck happened to her. But if there's like five pathologists
- 32:29who are saying that their likely way that Gita died was by homicide, then
- 32:34I could see if that was already the narrative that somebody, even if they
- 32:38accidentally were like, okay, I put the panel there and it was a
- 32:42total accident. I didn't know that she was in the tank at that point,
- 32:45they might be nervous to come forward and be questioned as a murder suspect,
- 32:51because how many times do we see where somebody who is innocent, or
- 32:54maybe the one that discovers the body, they're then like suspect numero uno.
- 33:00There's times where police do get it wrong or investigators get it wrong. So
- 33:04I could see how somebody would be slightly trepidacious if they did that. But
- 33:08I'm the same way as you ash. If it were me in that situation,
- 33:12the guilt would get me, so I would have to come forward and
- 33:15be like it was me. I accidentally did this. I had no idea,
- 33:17and I'm sorry. I do see what you're saying too. Though if
- 33:22the narrative was already homicide, I might have more like, oh my gosh,
- 33:25because ask rebel, he said, please don't ever die in are like
- 33:30around me, right, don't let me be the first to find you,
- 33:34because he's like, I don't trust people anymore, Like I'd be scared to
- 33:36call nine one one and what would follow, you know, because you do
- 33:39see these cases where people are accused of murder when a natural death or an
- 33:45accident occurs. But I would assume that they knew her body was found in
- 33:51that tank, and I'm not sure that the homicide narrative was immediate, but
- 33:55like you said, if it was, then oh my lord, maybe I
- 33:59don't want to put myself in position anymore. I was just saying, gosh,
- 34:04when they're scrambling to figure out what happened to this poor woman, I
- 34:07was down there, Like maybe information would have come out before the homicide noticed,
- 34:13but it I still am leaning towards the fact that it was a murder,
- 34:16given the fact that these five pathologists all agreed and they saw her body
- 34:22well. One of the biggest issues with this accident theory is that Gita was
- 34:27known for being a very conscientious person, and she'd walked through those basement corridors
- 34:31numerous times before, so everyone who knew her found it unlikely that she would
- 34:37have failed to notice an open panel in the floor. I also think that
- 34:40if Gita had fallen into the tank, her beaker may have been found in
- 34:44there, alongside her radio and clipboard, but since it was found broken on
- 34:47the basement floor, this suggests that she got into a struggle beforehand. Even
- 34:52though an alternate theory was presented to explain how cold water could have caused the
- 34:58marks on Gita's neck, Let's not forget that she also had additional bruising on
- 35:02her waist and elbow. So I really think the evidence supports her being violently
- 35:07attacked. We've covered so many cases where the authorities ruled someone's death to be
- 35:12a suicide or an accident and ignored compelling evidence to suggest homicide. But I
- 35:17think this is one case where they got it right the first time around,
- 35:22and that any alternate theories besides Gita being murdered do not hold up at all.
- 35:27But even if by chance, this was an accident, whoever left that
- 35:30panel open and caused Geeda to fall to her death still needs to be held
- 35:35accountable for what happened. I mean, it's true they need to be able
- 35:38to tell what happens so that her family has answers. Again, I think
- 35:43the plant as a whole would be more responsible for not having the protocols in
- 35:47place, for not having safety checks or signing off when you move the panel,
- 35:53all the things that could have been put into place to protect all the
- 35:57employees from accidents like that, those would be the things that I'd focus on.
- 36:02I think the family needs the answers, and that's what should be compelling
- 36:06someone to say, I did this. I need to tell you what happened.
- 36:10I'm so remorseful it was an accident and see what occurred. But again,
- 36:15I just don't feel like that's the case. I feel like the beaker
- 36:20was dropped in a struggle. That's why she got the bruising on her waist,
- 36:24Like what part of you would be bruised on your waist unless she fell
- 36:29through that hole and hit the you know, the side on the way down.
- 36:32She has bruising on her waist, she has bruising on other parts of
- 36:36her body. She has that strangulation markings that by pathologists recorded they saw on
- 36:42her body. It just indicates more that there was a struggle and a fight
- 36:46and then a desperate need to cover her up. And then you think back
- 36:51that one year earlier, in that same location, they filmed a lawn or
- 36:53episode where a woman drowned in the tank, and I could see someone saying,
- 36:58that is genius. I'm going to dispose of her body here and it'll
- 37:00be hours before they find her. I'll be home, they won't even know
- 37:04what happened to her. Still don't have a clear cut idea of what the
- 37:08motive might have been for a homicide, but I doubt the crime was pre
- 37:12planned, and I think the perpetrator or perpetrators just got very lucky that they
- 37:16weren't caught in the act, and some potentially crucial evidence which could have implicated
- 37:21them wound up being destroyed. But no matter how Gheeta died, this was
- 37:24just an incredibly tragic end to her life. Remember this is a woman who
- 37:29found great success in her male dominated native country for not only becoming the first
- 37:34woman to attend Loyola College, but graduating as the top student in her class.
- 37:38She then moved to the US to provide a better life for her family
- 37:42and was pretty much living the American dream until her life was cut short by
- 37:45a pretty horrific death. I read a number of heartbreaking articles about the difficulties
- 37:51that Gyeeda's husband, Jaya, and their children have experienced while dealing with her
- 37:54loss, as I know that Jaya actually held on too Geda's cell phone and
- 37:59would frequently call her voicemail just so he could hear his deceased wife speak again.
- 38:04The Ingara family has frequently voiced for frustrations over the police's inability to make
- 38:08an arrest in the case, but I honestly get the impression that without any
- 38:13real forensic evidence to work with, there's really not much they can do until
- 38:16they receive a big break. Perhaps all this case needs for a resolution is
- 38:21for the right person to come forward. So if you happen to have any
- 38:24information on the death of Geta Angara, please contact the appropriate authorities. Jules
- 38:30Ashley any final thoughts in this case. I can't stop thinking about her three
- 38:35babies and how their father was the one who had to step up and comfort
- 38:40his children and the loss of their mother. He also has to try to
- 38:44grieve the loss of his best friend and the fellow parent in the house,
- 38:49So he's raising these babies on his own without the person who he created them
- 38:52with. The children are growing up and having these experiences where their mother should
- 38:57be present and she's not. And more so in these cases where you see
- 39:02a woman fight so hard and she moves to America to create this dream where
- 39:08she says, I'm going to raise a family in America so I can provide
- 39:12for them. I'm going to secure my education so that I can financially be
- 39:17an asset to my family. And that's what she's doing. And then all
- 39:22of a sudden, she doesn't come home one day after work. And I
- 39:25can't even imagine what that was like with those three children learning that their mother
- 39:30was deceased. And you have this father who, like he said, I
- 39:34would call her phone just to hear her voice. Been there, done that.
- 39:38It is awful. And yet, like I said, he's also responsible
- 39:43for these three children who are grieving as well. So accident or homicide,
- 39:46it would be my prayer that someone in that fifty person pool would say I
- 39:53have information. It might not even seem significant, it might seem so minor.
- 40:00I remember overhearing a conversation where someone was frustrated with her. I remember
- 40:02hearing a conversation where someone said they gave information they probably shouldn't have known.
- 40:08There was this conflict that I'm aware of. Any of that could be profound
- 40:14information, even if it doesn't seem like it. So, like you said,
- 40:16without forensic evidence, which we don't have here because of the chlorine,
- 40:21and without people coming forward, these cases can't be investigated deeply by police,
- 40:27there's nothing to go on. And so at this point it would take somebody
- 40:31who's had distance in space and time to say, I have information and I
- 40:37don't know if it'll help, but see if it will, and you never
- 40:39know, it could both a case wide open. That's what I hope for
- 40:44as well. I really, just like you said, Ash, I can't
- 40:46stop thinking about her three children and her husband who were left behind. Gito
- 40:52was brilliant to be the first woman to be in Loyola College after it became
- 40:58co ed, to get a masters and bachelors there, to come to the
- 41:01United States to get two more master's degrees and a PhD. She was so
- 41:07accomplished and clearly so so intelligent. Oh when I forgot to mention that she
- 41:12won the gold medal for being the student at the top of her class,
- 41:15being an immigrant woman at the time, being in this position of power at
- 41:19this water treatment plant or facility. It couldn't have been easy, and yet
- 41:23she managed to navigate it. And I'm sure that she did it all with
- 41:27grace because that just seems to be the type of woman that she was.
- 41:30And I really hope that in these coming years, before the clock starts to
- 41:37run out on who may have done this, people start to die, things
- 41:40change. This was so many years ago, that somebody will come forward with
- 41:45some kind of information, because even if that person wasn't responsible, I believe
- 41:50that there are multiple people there who are aware of what happened and who is
- 41:53the perpetrator, because it just seems unlikely that it was one person was able
- 42:00to dispose of her body into that tank and to get that panel on there,
- 42:04even if it was somebody who just helped in the aftermath during the cleanup,
- 42:07there has to be somebody out there who has this guilt that is eating
- 42:12away at them just because of the knowledge that they have. And I really
- 42:16hope that in these coming years they come forward and give those babies that resolution
- 42:22of who killed their mother and why. Yeah, this is definitely such a
- 42:27frustrating and heartbreaking case because we've gone over all the points how Ghita was a
- 42:30brilliant woman who moved her family to the US and was living her best life,
- 42:36but then wound up being murdered in a place she probably never would expect
- 42:38it. I don't think she felt that when she went down to the basement
- 42:42of her plant to perform a routine check that she would cross paths with someone
- 42:45who would kill her. And we talked about how this is both solvable and
- 42:51unsolvable because you only have a limited amount of suspects to work with. It
- 42:54had to be an employee at the plant, and you, like Jules said,
- 42:58could only one person have done this, Like there has to be other
- 43:01people who at least know or suspect who is responsible. Yet they have no
- 43:06forensic evidence, no security footage, no eyewitnesses, so they just are unable
- 43:10to make an arrest. And I keep parking back to the narrowing down of
- 43:15the suspects, how it originally went down from fifty to eight, and then
- 43:19it was narrowed down to three, and then ten years ago the authorities say,
- 43:22well, we no longer believe that these streamn were responsible, and we
- 43:27haven't heard anything new since then. We have no idea if other people are
- 43:30being reinvestigated and because so little information has been released publicly, we know nothing
- 43:37about these suspects, what their motives could have been, and we have no
- 43:39idea where the investigation is right now. It's completely inactive, which is a
- 43:45real shame. It just sounds like whoever did this probably did not plan what
- 43:49they were doing. It could have been a spur of the moment thing and
- 43:52they just got incredibly lucky that they were able to do it without being seen
- 43:55and without leaving any forensic evidence behind. And who knows. We can hope
- 44:00maybe this person has a conscience that one day from now they'll spill the beans
- 44:04and confest and we can finally find out the truth. But for now,
- 44:07Keith's family still has to live with the pain on not knowing what happened to
- 44:10her, and I really do hope that they get answers someday. Robin,
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