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142: Attempted Dog Murder - Vanderpump Rules: Line In The Sand (S11 E10) · Reality TV Cringe

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Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe, Home of the Dumpster Baby.
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I am Delia, one of your hosts, here with my real tight homegirl
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and my daughter in law Beatrice. Check all this out. This is Beatrish.
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We are here today to talk of Van Bumpirles Honey, Season eleven,
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Episode I Couldn't Tell You ten, Episode ten. We're very excited to get
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Take it away, Beatrice, bitch. This was the uncensored why Gotta be
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Bitch version. You're always why I gotta be bitch. You're always my bitch,
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You're my top bitch, You're my bff bitch. Okay, I'm your
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bitch too, right, every time every time I come over to this house,
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I feel like I never I never call you bitch, though I will
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call you a hope. But that's factual. Well, then I'll call you
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home. It's accurate, all right. Ho, let's get out it all
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right. So we opened the episode with Tom and Ariana's house, and we
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got Anne coming over in business attire. Yeah, because she's going to interview
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with Arianna. I guess yes, to be her newest Sistine personal assistant.
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Yeah, she's got a blazer on looking business casual, super professed, super
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excited, to meet with Ariana Maddox and hopefully, I guess, defect away
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from Tom Sandoval and work instead. Yeah, his X And she's really wanting
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that. I mean last episode she was texting Ariana like please, yeah,
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please, iire me. I hate Tom Sandivals so much. Yeah, And
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so Ariana's interviewing her on the kitchen counter table in this common area, which
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I thought was kind of purposeful because Tom Sandoval is walking around with his dumb
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ass eavesdropping and trying to see what they're doing. He knows that Ariana is
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trying to poach Anne and trying I don't think he do you think he knows
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that? Yes, he says it is in his interest. I mean I
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think he realizes it because he overhears it. But like Anne goes upstairs and
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says hi to Tom, right, yeah, and she's like, Hey,
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I'm just going to talk to Arianna because she needs a new personal assistant and
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she wants to know if I know anybody, So we're going to have a
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conversation. It does seem like Tom in that moment is not really happy with
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her, So maybe he kind of has a sense of what's happening. I
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think he knows Okay, I think he knows because it is interstitial. He's
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saying, like, what Oriana took all of our friends, She's taking everything
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away from me, and now she's got to take my fulcan assistant. What
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a bitch basically is what he's saying, right, And I'm like, cry
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harder, like I'm sorry, but like I don't feel bad for you,
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and also Anne hates working for your ass. Yeah, but then I think
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she should just quit. I feel like the way that Anne is going about
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this is very unprofessional. And I'm just gonna be here and I'm gonna be
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loud and proud and say I don't like Anne. Wow. I think she's
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very ingratiating. I feel like she's looking for her fifteen minutes of fame.
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And I was like, after you're sitting down next to Ariana and shit talking
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Tom about his dirty socks and his dirty clothes and the shit that you have
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to do, I'm like, aren't you violating an NDA that I am sure
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you had to sign? And then we learn in the after show that she
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did sign an NDA and that he's gonna be calling his attorney And that's not
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unusual in Hollywood. If you're gonna be working for a celebrity as a personal
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assistant, you're gonna have to sign an NDA. So I'm like, why
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are you talking shit about Tom in his house in a space where he could
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possibly hear you? It was just so unprofessional? And so what I did,
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Beatrice as I went up on a rid Henny? Yeah? Is it
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just me? Do I exist in a vacuum or does anybody else see Anne
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for the clout goblin that she is? And guess what, you found a
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few people that agree with you. Yes. So this comment on the vander
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Pump Rules subreddit really does encapsulate my entire feeling about Anne, and I would
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like to have the liberty to read it. Is that? Okay, go
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ahead? All right? This person is named blues Hippie and she says Anne's
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completely unprofessional, she signed an NDA and now she's trying to figure out how
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to break that. I can't stand Sandy, but he should sue her.
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His after show comments about her were very enlightening. Sandoval says, Arianna never
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liked Anne until she was on camera, and I believe it. I actually,
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I definitely believe that. Blueses Hippie goes on to say, here's where
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I get down voted and I'm fine with it. Why is Arianna dumping her
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animals off on Sandoval and Anne to take care of They should be with her
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or in a kennel. The master bedroom Arianna decided to dirty up and take
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over. Has the AC control on the wall in their room. Arianna keeps
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acting like Sandoval went in her room, let her dog in there, eating
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her nasty chicken skewers on the nightstand on purpose. Reality is that it was
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Anne, Sandoval and the repairman that went into her room. Reality is any
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of them could have accidentally left Maya in the room where Arianna left food lying
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out. Why was the dog there for them to care for anyway? Shouldn't
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she kick in money at least to pay Anne for the cleaning, obviously letting
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her dog in and out to pee. She doesn't call Anne the dog murderer,
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although she was there as well. Arianna only wanted to hire Anne on
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camera to make Sandoval look bad. He already looks bad, but Anne is
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making herself look worse as an employee. A contract or Nda signed is saying
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you will protect a person's privacy. She's thirsty for her fifteen minutes of fame,
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and the best part is when Anne showed up wearing a suit to be
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interviewed by Arianna. Lma oh. The next comment is by a Psalm eighty
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two and she says this, this, this, and this. I got
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so much blowback for this opinion. I agree, and is untrustworthy. Sandy
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is a scumbag, and Arianna is on a bitter rampage disguised as a healing
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journey, and no one can accept that and won't see anything she does in
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a bad light, even if she did have a role in a negative situation.
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And listen, I understand that we have people out in these raccoon streets
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who ride so hard for Arianna and I do too. Okay, she got
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the short end of the stick, yeah, by even being with Tom Sandebal,
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who's a fucking clown, and then to have him do something at this
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level of betrayal is horrible. But like, you're not going to pawn an
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off me as this poor girl who lost her job because Tom's down of all,
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is such a bad person, No, bitch, you're interviewing for an
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entirely different job with who we could call his actual nemesis under his roof while
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you're on the clock for him. How is that professional? I mean,
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that is a fair point about her professionalism, But at the same time,
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I'm like, I can't imagine working for somebody like Sandival, And like,
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if you're a personal assistant, I understand you do things for the person that
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you're working for that are maybe sometimes out of the job description, but I'm
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like picking up dirty underwear, picking up dirty socks, having to clean up
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after his single sex parties. Like I'm like, fuck that, it sounds
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like a terrible job. Then she should talk to HR when he has an
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HR department. Then she should lodge the complaint and deal with it professionally correct.
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Yes, no, she totally should, And it makes she wants to
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be there for the cameras and she wants to ingratiate herself to Ariana so that
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she can continue to be in front of the cameras. I don't know if
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she's like a clout goblin, but like when she was in her interstitial saying
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that she could get sued for all of this, I was like, what
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is she talking about? So the NDA makes a lot of sense for that,
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and I'm like, ooh, yeah, you kind of dug yourself a
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deep hole with that one. But I do kind of feel for Ann a
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little bit because again, Tom Saneville sucks. Maybe she's not getting paid a
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lot. Maybe she's really fucking hoping that Ariana does poach her so that way
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she doesn't have to work under that asshole ever again. But she can still
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maintain this like you know vibe that she has. She's still getting paid good
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money because's probably gonna get paid from Ariana better than Tom Sandival. I don't
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know. That's all speculative and presumptus well, because Sandoval says he's not making
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money, it's not presumptuous. Well, but he's got employees, he's got
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workers comp insurance, he's got an HR department, he's got a business Beatrice.
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Listen, he's a piece of shit. Yeah, period, in point
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blank. But if I'm a personal assistant trying to work in Hollywood, California,
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the last thing I'm gonna do is this kind of bullshit. She's not
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going to be hired by anybody else. Yeah, there's no other celebrity in
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the world that's going to want Anne as their personal assistant if she's out here
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talking mad shit about her employer before she's even gone, Yeah, I think
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he was well within his rights to fire her, and I'm sorry, cry
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harder copemore. Ooh, but I mean later in the episode he denies that
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he even fired her like a piece of shit and he told her to take
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a break. And it's like, so, I mean, there's a lot
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of shitty in this whole thing. Like, I don't think one innocent.
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I don't think Anne's one innocent. Tom Sandoval definitely is not one innocent.
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But you know, I feel for them as like the feeling human being that
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I have allegedly underneath. Yeah, it's it's it's it's buried under so many
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layers of that, so many las, so many and grease. I know.
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So after this little interview with Anne and Sandoval getting all salty about it,
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then we bop on over to like Schwartz going over to Sena and Brock's
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house, and this was kind of stupid. The only reason why it was
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important was because they're talking about Katie. They're talking about how she's a hypocritical
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bitch, right and she didn't fuck Schwartz a lot during their marriage, but
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now she's banging Max and he is so salty about it. He is so
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salty, salty about it, keeps talking about it, He keeps talking about
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how Max is a big old dick and Katie is fucking a lot of people,
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and he's like, Wow, I never expected that from her. I
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don't know. I just feel like he doesn't have any emotional attachment to Katie
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at all, Like I don't even I don't get anything from him. I
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get asexual vibes almost from Tom Schwartze, Like I don't get any feeling from
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the makeout key that was such an awkward, terrible makeout with Raquel. It
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was like hard to believe, Like I can't see him as a sexual person.
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But he has a lot of audacity. Yeah, he has a lot
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of audacity for being upset with Katie sleeping with Max Boyan. So I guess
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I was a big dick. According to Liza, very well end out after
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he wouldn't stick to their agreement to not like date within the friend group.
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But he doesn't have a leg to stand on. It seems to me he
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knows this, but he still wants to create some opportunities to throw her under
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the breast and Brock seems to love to do that too, And of course
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Tom sand of all hates Katie, but Brock seems to love to pylon Katie
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as well. Oh yeah, just another reason I can't stand that fucking guy.
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I think he piles on all the women, honestly, him Katie Ariana
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like, I think he just likes. Yes, he's a piece of shit.
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I don't like Brock, but I don't like Schwartz either, And I
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think Schwartz honestly, My vibe is not that he's a sexual. I think
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he cries himself to sleep that Katie left his ass. Yeah, because yeah,
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because he makes comments like and I don't know if it's just for the
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cameras or what, but it just seems weird if it's for the comments like
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him talking about his biological clock and how he doesn't want to be forty when
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he's single, and it's like forty and single, and it's like, okay,
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yeah, because Katie left your ass because you're a loser and you never
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cared about her, and you never valued this beautiful woman that for some reason
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was in love with you and wanted to be with you, yeah, and
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was in a long term relationship with you, and she was faithful, right,
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she didn't cheat, So it's like she you had it going, Yeah,
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you couldn't keep it up. Now you're forty something, literally, I
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mean really right, Like you couldn't keep it up. Now you're forty something,
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single, childless, you live in an apartment with all of your plan.
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You're a loser, Like you cry yourself to sleep. That's what I
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think maybe I mean, But like if a flaccid penis or a person,
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that would be Tom Schwartz. Like he gives no energy, like no male
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fucking cars. He does not have any of that. So I don't even
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know if he's upset, but I do know that he wants to put her
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business on Front Street and probably embarrass her, oh totally, which I mean
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he has again a lot of audacity wearing that fucking sweater that he did to
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the water party, Like you're trying to embarrass people looking like that? I
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don't think so, Tom Schwartz, what a loser. And then we have
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Arianna going over to Katie's house, and this is where Ariana kind of tells
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Katie about what happened with Anne, like how she interviewed her kind of,
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but then after the interview, off camera, she tells Anne, I don't
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think it's gonna work out for you to be my assistant right now, because
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Tom's gonna be too petty. We don't want to make this a big old
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thing. And so uh, Anne cries about it. She goes upstairs or
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something, and then I think Sandoval alleged confronts and fires her, and then
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Anne starts crying more. Arianna sees her and is like, feels really bad
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for her. That's what Arianna is saying to Katie, right, do we
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believe that? I believe some kind of a version of that. But I
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mean, if Tom Sandoval heard them having this discussion, I can see a
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world where he then fires her. Once Ariana leaves this look this or says
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look, I need a break from you because that was really inappropriate and I
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need to think about what I want to do. And then Anne has an
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epiphany like, oh fuck, maybe I just fucked myself in the ass.
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I'm gonna lose my job. I'm not gonna be able to be on camera
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anymore, which is what I live for, and so I'm gonna cry in
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the kitchen and Ariana heard about it. I just feel like Arianna's looking just
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like Tom is looking for every opportunity to paint Ariana with a bad brush.
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I think Ariana is doing the same thing. I think it is more acceptable
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when Ariana does it because Tom Sandoval is such a fucking piece of shit.
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Yeah, but at the same time, it does cause me to question the
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veracity of the things Arianna says, because I'm like, m how much of
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this is true and how much of this is like attempted dog murderer? Yeah,
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yeah, yeah, which is a version of the truth that you're spitting
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out because you're mad. I get that. I mean, I think they're
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both being Hella petty, Like I think that's just what she has a reason
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to be, exactly, whereas he does not exactly. So I forgive it
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more with Ariana, right, but like, I'm not gonna say she's not
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being petty and maybe stretching the truth. Yeah, but we'll get to that.
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Yes, we'll get to the water somalie, which is basically the next
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thing. Yeah to So Lala's hosting a water tasting. Okay, why fucking
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cringe as hell? Really bad? I mean her being like water is everything,
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Like it's been there for me through everything, and it's so great.
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She takes a sip of the most expensive bottle of water in America or something.
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It's like a thousand dollars a bottle. And she's like, oh,
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I fuck with that. And Katie's like, it tastes like water. It's
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literally ever tastes like water. Like this is like, can not hold a
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candle to a wine tasting or a fucking bourbon tasting, or a juice tasting,
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a Capri Sun tasting. This is just water, Lola. It's just
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water. And she's having it being hosted at James and Alley's house, so
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it's like not even at your own place, like you're using their house.
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Weird. It's super weird. And then you have this water expert who's there,
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who's from like I don't know, Germany, Germany sounds like he's from
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Germany or Ostri. It's not just water, it's great. There's so many
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different types. Literally is just water. It's literally water, water with some
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salt, water with like a hint of rods, some carbonation. I was
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like, I was watching this with your daughter, and I'm like, this
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is the dumbest shit I've ever seen. Rich people world, I can't,
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like, I totally understand it. With wine, I totally understand it.
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With whiskey because you age that ship for hundreds of years. Sometimes those things
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have a taste. Yes, No, let me catch somebody in North Texas
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having a water Somalier party is funny. It would never exist. No,
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it's just really very pretentious. And I don't I didn't understand why. I
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mean Lalat in our interstitials talking about it's more than just water water, So
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that means she's going to probably come out with a water right, She's going
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to probably create s market. Yes, it's got to be. What's happening.
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She's trying to start the branding campaign for her personal life. It's so
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weird water, huh. Rich people are so weird. So well, they're
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trying to make money. But this is just what This has also been done
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before on Shaws of Sunset with diamond Water with Asa and Her Diamond Water,
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which also went absolutely nore. It was also on Real Housewives of New Jersey
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with the son of Caroline Manzo who like had a black water. I think
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it was called black and the water was black. Oh, I've seen that.
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I think it's probably got cul fights her well, but at least it
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looks different, not like regular water drink. Maybe pink water, maybe purple
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black water. Like water is just a bad idea, La la. There's
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a million other things that you could do. Yeah, and anyway, that
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was ridiculous. It was ridiculous. And they're like, oh, look at
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this, the most expensive bottle of salt, like it's saltwater. It's like
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sparkling water with salt in it from like the Himalayas or Sundean. It's just
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really ridiculous. And then we have a few things happening at the Somalier,
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so we have after the water tasting. Everybody's like that was stupid. So
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then the girls go inside to go eat pizza. We have Schwartz and Katie
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outside talking at some point because he confronts her about fucking Max. But the
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biggest thing was the girls talking about pizza. Because while Arianna is talking shit
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about Sandoval and talking shit about Anne and all this stuff and telling everybody what's
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going on, Sandoval walks in and I think, in my opinion, I
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think he was doing it on purpose. I think he wanted to east drop.
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I think he overheard Ariana talking about Anne, he wanted to listen,
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and so he's doing everything that he can to eavesdrop in this conversation, and
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this is where Ariana gets pissed. Yeah, I didn't see that at all.
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In the same way, I feel like Tom is just existing in a
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space, in a party space, and he's trying to participate on the periphery,
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Like I think he's trying to be helpful. I do think he's trying
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to overly ingratiate himself to the group, which Ariana calls out, like why
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is he doing that? Why is he going to go chase the driver down
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for ranch that he's doing the most? But she's talking shit about him.
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And maybe he is ingratiating himself and trying to do the most so that he
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can get back into the good graces of the group, and maybe that is
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transparent, but she's being petty and talking about him in his presence. He
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did not talk about her, He didn't cast her a fucked up look.
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She was the one who was talking about him, and so obviously he hears
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this. He goes back outside, he's talking to the guys. But in
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my opinion, Arianna starting some shit, and I'm kind of just asking the
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question, like what shifted and changed? Because previous to this, you've either
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not attended group events and or you have and you've stayed totally away from Tom.
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But it feels like something has given, something has kind of changed,
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and she's ready to go toe to tone and she's looking for and I dare
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say, creating opportunities to either stick it to him or to fight with him.
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Like she's just ready to go yeah. And in this situation she seems
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ready to go yeah. I mean I can see that she wants to poke
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at him and she wants to be mad and be petty. But in my
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opinion, I'm like, if my wife cheated on my ass. I mean,
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we've been together almost as long as Santaval and Ariana, right, Like,
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we've been together almost eight years. If she was cheating on my ass
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with my best friend or something, I would be the most petty, fucking
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bitch. I would be so fucking petty. I would be so fucking mean.
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I would be doing everything in my power to like make life miserable.
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Like because I'm not kind of a bitch. Now, does that make it
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right? No, it's not mature. It's definitely not like emotionally enlightened.
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But at the same time, it's like Arianna's mad and I think that Sandoval.
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I think Sandival was trying to eat drop because I think he wanted to
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hear what she was saying. And she was talking about him in this group
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setting, which is not right, and come on, Ariana, like you
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know what it was gonna do. I think she probably was doing that on
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purpose. She wanted to create the drama. She wanted to rile everybody up.
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I'm wondering if she wants to force the issue and make her friends actually
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choose, like who are you gonna ride with? You're gonna ride with me?
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You're gonna ride with this dude, right, And at some point they're
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eating their pizza. He's walking through the room and she starts talking about the
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incident with Maya, which is her dog, huh, And how Maya got
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stuck in her room for like three hours. She ended up eating some old
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chicken satae or skewered stuff, and she had to go to the hospel,
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but she had to get her stomach pumped or whatever. Yeah, six thousand
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dollars. But as Tom is walking through the room, she's like, and
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that attempted dog murderer or something. She refers to him in that way.
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Brock who knows who she's talking about, but he's such a fucking instigator because
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he wants to be the number one guy. Yeah, He's like, well,
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who's the attempted dog murderer as if he doesn't know, right, And
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then Tom's like, that's me me, I'm the attempted dog murderer. And
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then they start fighting. She's like, why are you fucking talking to me?
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And he's like, why don't you answer a fucking email? And she's
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like, who the fuck do you think you are? Get out of here,
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leave and do I need to call nine one one? And it gets
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really ugly, and you just see everybody's sitting around the table, like Brock
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and Sheena and La La, like their eyes are just open, like they're
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just like, whoa, what the fuck is happening? And Arianna in this
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moment seems to have lost herself in the moments. What I'm saying with that
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is like, I don't think she planned to be that crazy. I think
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this is just how she fucking feels. Yeah, I think this is how
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she feels about Tom Sandoval. And I wonder if she walked away from this
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and felt a little embarrassed, like, oh, I've really fucking lost my
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shit. But he deserves it. Who cares, right, But like she's
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mad, I mean she's yeah, live it, and he deserves it.
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He does, Like are we really putting our friends through that? Like are
23:22
we really going to social situations and occasions and making our friends sit there as
23:29
we scream hysterically at our ex partner? It's just cringey. I mean,
23:36
see to me, I'm like, I don't know if it's cringey. I
23:37
think she's just proving a point to everybody, because everyone this whole entire fucking
23:42
season. I mean it's only been four or five months post scandal. Everyone
23:47
this entire season has been like Ariana, get over it, Ariana stopped being
23:51
mad, Ariana, get at that house, move out, Like, move
23:53
on, let it go. It's not that big of a deal. Like
23:56
whatever, we get that you're mad, but like just develop interpiece like it's
24:00
fine and that If like I was Ariana, I would be getting pissed if
24:06
people were telling me to calm the fuck down or tell telling me to let
24:11
it go and get over it, build a bridge, get over it.
24:14
Just have a conversation with him, just forgive him, just accept his bullshit.
24:17
Apologies I'd be fucking pissed, but I wouldn't take it out like in
24:21
this group kind of setting. I would take it out on my friends.
24:22
I'd be like, shut the fuck up, stop telling me to get over
24:26
it, stop telling me to move on. But then there's the the other
24:30
layer of all of it that they're contractually obligated. They're supposed to be on
24:34
this show. She's supposed we've talked about this before, like she's supposed to
24:38
be in these interactions with all of these are workers exactly they have to show
24:42
up. I mean, this is sort of a mandatory scene that everybody's been
24:45
called to. And I mean I understand feeling like they are expecting you Ariana
24:52
to like psychologically and emotionally bypass your entire process to just get over it so
24:57
everybody's more comfortable. And that's not fair. It's just the setting in which
25:00
you address that. And I don't think she's actually maybe even said that to
25:07
any of the folks Laala or Shena directly, like Hey, this is what
25:10
I need from you, this is how you might be able to support me.
25:12
She's been pretty quiet about it. And then she just goes the fuck
25:17
off. Yeah, she went from zero to one hundred. She just like
25:19
blows up, which honestly serves Tom Sandoval's agenda and trying to villainize her because
25:26
immediately he's like, do you see what I have to fucking deal with with
25:29
this woman? This is her rage, this is how she's treated me all
25:33
three years, and so he gave she gave that to him. She did.
25:37
Yeah, and I'm not saying she's not justified to feel that way,
25:40
Like if I mean I would have committed acts of violence then my husband,
25:42
if you did something like that to me, I would have been spinning out
25:45
for months, if not years, if my husband did something like that to
25:48
me. So she's entitled to her process, but the way she's visiting it
25:52
upon everybody else and then requiring them to co sign and advocate for her what
25:56
she does at the beach, right, she's like, you guys, you
25:59
guys, get this guy together because he's a misogynist. He won't listen to
26:03
women. So it's up to you guys to bring Tom sand of aal to
26:06
heel. I'm like, Arianna, I understand why you would say that,
26:10
but it is unreasonable to put that on other people. Yeah, I suppose,
26:15
so, and I mean when they talk about the whole dog murdering situation,
26:19
because they she explains it to them, and she says that Sandoval was
26:23
the one that went into her room without her permission, opened where the la
26:29
is, where the AC is, because I guess he needed to fix the
26:32
AC or something. And then he let Maya in there and then locked her
26:36
in there for hours, unattended and unsupervised, and then she got into the
26:40
chicken skewers, and so Lalla in her talking head is like, what do
26:44
you think about it? Well, see, I'm a little conflicted about it
26:47
because La La says that, well, Sandoval shouldn't have let the dog in
26:51
they're unsupervised. That's fucked up. But at the same time, Ariana,
26:55
why are you such a trash goblin leaning all of your shit and your old
26:57
takeout? Like you're just like, why don't you throw out your stuff?
27:02
And you and I were kind of whatsapping about this earlier today because you're like,
27:04
well, like you know, Ariana, maybe is not the cleanest,
27:07
Like maybe she's kind of messy, kind of like Sandoval. Sandoval's a little
27:11
bit messy, I mean a lot a bit messy in their house, and
27:15
so maybe like to me, I'm like, whatever, it's a takeout thing,
27:18
Like it's not a big a deal. Maybe it wasn't there for days.
27:19
Maybe I'm giving her too much of a benefit of the doubt. Maybe
27:22
I just I thought it was interesting that Laala highlighted that and like shifted blame
27:30
and responsibility onto Ariana. Yeah, pointing out like, well, throw your
27:33
shit away, like don't be a trash goblin in your home when you know
27:37
that you have a dog who has a propensity to eat five hundred laxatives and
27:41
all manner of shit in your house, Like, think about that. But
27:44
I do think Laala is voicing the opinion of a lot of people watching right
27:48
now. In fact, I went up on the subrettist because I always want
27:51
to see what people are saying. Yeah, people are thinking, And there
27:53
were a lot of people saying she's always been a slob. She's also been
27:57
depressive though in the past, so that also lends itself sometimes not always,
28:03
but lends itself to maybe not always having the most cleanest of spaces. Yeah,
28:08
And then there was the matter of the kitty litter, which I know
28:11
we're jumping around here, but it's all this subject of maya right and being
28:17
neglectful of Maya. Tom Sandival was neglectfully. He was not paying attention to
28:21
what he was doing. I can totally see that. And then Tom's Sandoval
28:25
in a later scene when he's talking to Schwartz and Kyle, he's just like,
28:27
she's the laziest person in the world, and it's just really rich to
28:32
me that she's trying to paint me out to be this irresponsible person. Meanwhile,
28:36
I mean, the cat shit in the kit in the kitty litter was
28:40
she never fucking changes it. It's been months since she changed it. And
28:42
then they show a scene of what they show one of Ariana cleaning it,
28:49
but then they show one of Tom cleaning it, and it's literal piles and
28:53
piles of cat shit in this small litter box. And this is where you're
29:00
starting to lose me just in life, Like with James Kennedy, You've lost
29:03
me when you hit a woman. Jack's Taylor, like also your misogynistic ways,
29:07
like it's very hard for you to claw your way back into my warm
29:11
regard. And with both Arianna and Tom Sandoval being in charge of this cat
29:18
there is no reason that that litter box should ever ever look like that.
29:23
I don't care who's responsible. I don't care who thinks that they're the parent,
29:26
because at the beach scene we've got Ariana saying I am the parent of
29:30
these animals. I paid for them their mind. Then if that's the case,
29:33
hire somebody to clean the kitty litter out, Yeah, Hire somebody to
29:37
actually watch Maya and make sure that she's where she's supposed to be. Like,
29:41
why are we depending on Tom to do that? If you hate him
29:42
so much, why are you leaving your kitty litter like that? I'm I'm
29:47
sorry to me. That's neglect full of animals. And you can talk all
29:51
you want, Arianna about how much you love your animals like your children,
29:55
but if your cat litter box looks like that, I am one hundred percent
30:00
side eyeing you. Now, let me also say she was traveling a lot,
30:03
dancing with the stars. She was getting a lot of brand deals for
30:07
which she was probably moving around the country to promote. But then, like
30:11
I said, hire somebody, all right, you can't put it all on
30:14
Tom when you know he's irresponsible, right, and you're saying he's a piece
30:17
of shit, you're screaming at him for leaving the door open. Okay,
30:19
well, like then either move out honestly, which is where I think we're
30:23
getting back to Lawla trying to say, I get it. He's a piece
30:26
of shit. He's lower than the fucking scum on my shoe, and I
30:30
agree I co signed, but move out because look how angry you are,
30:33
and look at the risk you're putting your animals in because you're not there because
30:37
you're moving around, you're traveling, that's true. Why are you trusting Tom
30:41
to take care of this shit when you know he's a piece of shit.
30:42
Yeah, And to me, like all of this is just like super petty
30:47
marital drama like that they've probably argued about, yes, all over and over
30:51
and over again, because I've got fucking cats, I've got a dog.
30:53
And it's like you have those arguments in your marriage of like, well you
30:56
didn't fucking take the dog out, you didn't clean the litter when I asked
30:59
you to, so now it's overflowing or whatever, and it's like you have
31:02
these moments where you fight, and so that's where the litter box thing to
31:07
me was like they were both doing it to each other because we have the
31:11
footage of her cleaning it first, because Bravo puts that out first and says
31:15
one week earlier she's cleaning it, and then five days later we have Sandoval
31:18
doing the same thing. And it's like, to me, when I watched
31:21
it, I'm like, I wonder if Sandoval knew he was gonna get called
31:25
out for it or something and was trying to maintain his image, if he's
31:27
truly a narc that we think him to be. But then at the same
31:30
time, I think Arian is kind of doing a little bit of the same
31:33
thing. She's trying to like paint him in a bad light, he's trying
31:36
to paint her in a bad light. They're both being fucking petty. But
31:40
at the same time, Arian is a little justified with the whole Maya thing.
31:44
I can understand why she got so fucking mad because she didn't find out
31:48
that Maya had eaten those chicken skewers until hours later when she gets home and
31:53
finds Maya in her room alone, locked in there, and then she has
31:57
to rush her to the emergency event she can kill a dog. Yep,
32:00
there's nothing that they can do to fix that. Usually, so like the
32:04
fact that she was able to get fucking surgery for it and get it all
32:07
removed safely, and she was fine, Like that's good, but I can
32:10
understand why she got so fucking heated about it, right, But like,
32:14
who's taking care of Maya? Your dog? Then? Because you're gone for
32:15
hours, right, and so we don't want Maya to be in your room.
32:19
So Maya's in the rest of the house where Tom exists and Anne is
32:22
working. So are you expecting Tom and Anne to take care of Maya?
32:24
Yeah, Like where's the responsibility there? And also I'm just gonna say it,
32:28
and maybe i'm a judge bitch for it and y'all can hate me,
32:30
but like, why are we keeping meat and skewers on the side of our
32:34
bed? Like, just put your shit away? Throw it away. And
32:36
I'm I'm just I thought Lala was petty. I thought she was coming down
32:39
probably on the wrong side, and she's been doing that all season. But
32:42
I'm also like, I'm like, sheina, like, do not even eat
32:45
in this bed? You do not bring anything edible towards my blankets, my
32:49
covers, my sheets, anything. Yeah, Like I feel like it's dirty
32:51
and gross. And if you already know you have a dog who has a
32:53
tendency to eat everything, because in the after show we see Tom Sandoval talking
32:59
about how she got into some sort of paints or something, Yeah, and
33:01
then shit all over the couch, Like, yeah, so we know this
33:05
dog is not You have not trained this dog to not do this, and
33:08
you're not training the dog. The dog's not in a cattle, it's not
33:12
in any doggy daycare. So Ariana, you're just getting up and leaving for
33:15
hours at a time and expecting everybody else to take care of it with a
33:20
dog that you know eats everything and you're leaving shit in your room. Though
33:22
I don't know, I'm just I'm just mad about it because it didn't need
33:27
to happen to Maya. And those poor cats are literally having to shit upon
33:30
fourteen pounds of shit that's already existing in their cary litter because these two assholes
33:36
won't take care of their animals because they're being petty about it. But I
33:39
like in Ariana's defense about the chicken skewers, like her room was fucking closed,
33:43
she was not expecting Maya to be in there. Now. Granted,
33:45
again, it goes back to what you were saying like, Okay, what
33:50
did you expect, Like, if Tom needed to get into the room,
33:52
and he's a dumb ass who's irresponsible and doesn't fucking pay attention to your dog,
33:58
why wouldn't you have said something like, oh, yeah, maybe make
34:00
sure Maya doesn't go in there because there's fucking chicken skewers or something. But
34:04
she couldn't because she is saying she didn't know that Tom let himself into her
34:08
room, so right, And what's Tom's supposed to do as well? Is
34:10
Tom's supposed to text her and say, hey, there's a problem with the
34:14
AC the thermostat which controls it for which is in your master bedroom, So
34:17
would it be okay please if I enter your room to take care of it?
34:22
What do you think Mariana is gonna say. She's gonna say no,
34:23
yeah, fuck no, She's gonna be petty about it. Yeah, So
34:27
he ends up just going in and trying to take care of it. But
34:29
he's an irresponsible loser, yeah, doesn't give a shit about Maya or the
34:35
animals, it sounds like, and is not even paying attention to where Maya
34:37
is moving about the cabin. So Ariana, you should have been able to
34:42
foreshadow some of this and put things into place that would take care of your
34:46
animals, because if he's such an irresponsible piece of shit, you should have
34:50
prepared for that. That's listen, He's an asshole, yeah, but when
34:54
it comes to animals, I'm just like, I have no grace for that.
34:59
Yeah, which no grace for this, yeah, with Ariana or Tom.
35:01
Yeah. And so like maybe Arianna just to play Devil's advocate, just
35:06
to play and back from unsensored. No, yes, maybe Arianna is taking
35:09
it out so hard on Sandoval because she feels like a fucking idiot, Like
35:14
she feels terrible that this happened to her dog, and she was the one
35:17
that was irresponsible. And I'm not saying that like her blaming Tom Tom is
35:22
right because it's both their faults. I do agree with Laala that it is
35:27
you guys are both responsible for this fucking dog. Yeah, Like it's just
35:30
Sandoval, right, And granted he shouldn't have been like barging into your room,
35:35
but maybe shouldn't be. So you guys are the owners of the animal,
35:37
You are responsible for it. And exactly, you can't put all that
35:42
shit onto Tom Sani. That's what's annoying to me is the way they're trying
35:45
to litigate this on the public stage. If these are not your animals,
35:51
and maybe I would have a little bit more grace as a judgmental bid if
35:55
it was just one thing in one episode. But like we're talking about the
36:00
Maya thing and the litter box thing in one episode or over two episodes,
36:04
and I'm like, Okay, what's going on? A lot's coming out?
36:07
Are you guys thinking about these animals. I just want somebody to please be
36:09
thinking about these animals. And so for me, in terms of Ariana,
36:14
you're down a few notches. Tom Sannival's ari all the way down. He's
36:16
in a bar in hell with Tom Sanoval. But Arianna, I'm like,
36:21
okay, lady, take some ownership for the fact that you left your dog
36:23
alone with an irresponsible piece of shit and you had chicken skewers on your fucking
36:27
night stand and she got into it. But she probably feels bad about it.
36:30
That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying, all right, And
36:32
then after the whole water Somalier thing, after fucking arian Is telling Tom Sandoval
36:38
get the fuck away from me, I'm gonna call nimyl one. He ends
36:40
up leaving. He calls Schwartz after that and he's like, she's so scary,
36:45
and that's the end of it. So the next day, Tom Sandoval
36:49
in his weird crochet tank top, Schwartz and some rando guy go to get
36:52
paiea or something. This is where they're talking shit about it, and this
36:57
is where they bring up Katie again, and they talk about how she's a
37:00
hypocritical bitch, talking about how she used to slut shame the women and now
37:05
she's being a They're implying that she's sleeping around and also being a slut too
37:09
and is a hypocrite. That's how Tom Sanderbal comes into the conversation. So
37:15
first thing I want to talk to you about are the flashbacks of Katie,
37:19
because I know you haven't watched the entire series like I have. And so
37:22
they had maybe four different flashbacks of Katie calling various women whoores. I think
37:28
Lala, Sheina, Kristen, I don't know. She was calling everybody a
37:32
whore. And I will say from my personal experience that Katie definitely used to
37:37
be very toxic and had her own internalized misogyny in terms of how she treated
37:42
the other women. She was part of the mean girl's click, and I
37:46
for years I could not stand her. But how does seeing those flashbacks affect
37:52
you as somebody who's new to the series and this is like your first time
37:54
really watching it? Oh yeah, I mean I thought the flashbacks were fucking
37:58
embarrassing because most of were Katie drunk as fuck, calling all these bitches whores
38:02
and stuff, and I'm like, dang, that doesn't look good. But
38:06
then at the same time, like, where were you ten years ago?
38:08
You know what I mean? Like, where were all of us ten years
38:10
ago? We were all dumb as shit? Where were we all twenty years
38:14
ago on the internet when it was way more offensive, way more crazy,
38:17
everybody was making really shitty fucking jokes, and now everybody's getting canceled for it.
38:22
Like that's my opinion for it. I'm just like, Okay, the
38:24
guys are just trying to throw Katie under the bus because they're mad that she's
38:28
beautiful and that she's fucking dudes with big dicks, and they're pissed off of
38:31
that. I think Schwartz is so salty about it, and that's why it
38:34
gets brought up every time. Maybe I harken back to Katie's appearance on the
38:40
Nick Vile podcast with Dana, because they have a podcast called Disrespectful Dana and
38:45
Katie Anyway, but Katie was saying, yeah, like, and I paraphrase,
38:50
ten years ago, I was a piece of shit, Like I was
38:52
a kid though, and I'm like trying to figure out life, and I
38:54
made a lot of mistakes. I put up with a lot of things that
38:57
I shouldn't have. But to expect me to come to you to do that
39:00
and or not to have grown and wanted to change and be a better person,
39:04
like that's asinine. So of course I don't want to go back,
39:07
and I don't want to support people like Tom Sandival who are still doing shit
39:10
like this. Yeah, exactly, But that doesn't mean we get to judge
39:14
her on the person that she was years ago. And so I agree with
39:17
you, and I think that you can really see Tom's agenda immediately at this
39:22
dinner with his two friends, Like he starts with, like, how's Katie
39:25
the hypocrite? And you really get a sense, don't you, as somebody
39:29
who hasn't watched the series, how much that attitude might have affected Tom Schwartz's
39:35
marriage to Katie, especially when Sandoval's in business with Schwartz and so has to
39:40
have Schwartz's attention and cooperation and time, like he was a huge factor in
39:47
the dissolution of their marriage. Yeah, you can kind of see his attitude
39:52
right there in this scene. I just thought it was like, wow,
39:53
right on display, oh one, Why Katie hates you, Tom, Yes,
39:58
he's a piece of shit. And then Schwartz just kind of going along
40:00
with it because he's also a slime ball, and I think he likes it,
40:02
and I think he wants to call Katie out, oh one. And
40:06
then Sandoval also has to throw Ariana under the bus again because he's talking about
40:10
the water Somalier and how she was a big old bitch to him and screamed
40:15
at him. And then he says that Arianna. I think it was in
40:17
his talking head or at the table, I don't remember. He says,
40:22
I have on record that Ariana doesn't want to keep the house. She's just
40:25
fighting me on it to be petty. And I'm like, Okay, that's
40:30
what you're saying. Yeah, but let's talk about the term on the record,
40:34
Like, does that mean you have an attorney that is actually interviewing people
40:37
who are telling you on the record, or does that mean that you have
40:39
somebody in the friend group who is passing on information to you about how Arianna
40:45
really feels like, So it sounds like somebody is talking to him, and
40:50
I'm wondering who that might be because it feels like it could be shot Shena
40:53
too oh, feels like it could be Shina Oh Into because I don't think
40:57
Ariana likes La La. I think Arion films with Laala, but I think
41:01
she actually had a real friendship with Sheena. So I'm just wondering who's talking
41:06
to Tom or Brock talking to Tom through through Sena y yeah, or talking
41:13
about yeah what a mess? Yeah? And I hope we get to see
41:16
like more about that because the house thing is a huge debacle, because like
41:21
I was watching it with your daughter and she's like, yeah, why is
41:22
Ariana staying there? And I'm like, well, I mean if you think
41:24
about like a divorce or thinking about like a long breakup, like I think
41:29
about my parents' divorce, and like they were in separate rooms of the house
41:31
for a whole year, like they couldn't move out. We were tied to
41:35
a lease, like there wasn't anything that they could do but live together and
41:39
suffer under the roof together. And they had us kids and it was like
41:43
sure, messy, And so I'm like, well, it's only been five
41:45
months. I can't be so hard on Ariana for staying. But then I'm
41:50
like, if she's really just staying out of spite to be petty, I
41:52
mean, again, that's some shit that I would do. I'm a petty
41:57
bitch. Though. Look if it serves her, like if it doesn't degrade
42:00
her peace of mind or her like, if it doesn't harm her emotionally,
42:06
and she can just stick it to him, I mean I don't hate that,
42:08
honestly, but I just I don't know. And I think we're having
42:13
multiple conversations around the friend group talking about like is it worth it for your
42:16
peace of mind? Is it worth it to like hold this in? Because
42:20
even Sheena is saying, like at the pizza party, the water Somalier party,
42:23
She's like, I hate seeing her like this, like so filled with
42:28
anger and so unhappy, Like I just want her to move past this.
42:30
And you know, I don't know what to do. Nobody really knows what
42:35
to do. And in this scene though with Tom and Kyle and Tom Schwartz,
42:39
we also have him going on his campaign about how Arianna's lazy, like
42:45
he wakes up way before she does, he's going to bed after she does,
42:50
like she never even leaves the room until one o'clock, and really trying
42:53
to paint a picture of how bad she is. Yeah, I want to
42:58
call her a piece of shit. I feel like we always say that I
43:00
know a piece of shit, but like, like how like worthless? Yeah,
43:04
terrible she is? Yeah, which is interesting because I mean Arianna says
43:07
that the only reason why she's in that one room of the house is because
43:09
it's the only room where she could like live with all of her stuff.
43:14
Like, isn't there like a bathroom in there is like a little studio apartment
43:16
vibe. Yeah, so that's why she doesn't leave the fucking room sand of
43:20
all, Like, don't act like she's lazy. Maybe she's doing shit.
43:22
How can she be lazy when she's on Dancing with the Stars, she's writing
43:24
a book, which Ariana actually says to Katie like, look at all I
43:28
have done. And at the time that this is filming, it's been like
43:30
four months. Look at everything I have accomplished, and I'm lazy. I
43:34
don't think. Yeah exactly, so fuck you Tom. Yeah, I hate
43:37
end of the day. Fuck you Tom. Yes. And then we're getting
43:40
up to the Beach Redemption trip. We only have a couple things that happen,
43:45
Like right before that, we have James Nally going to lunch with Alisa
43:49
vander Pomp. Nobody cares, they're just gossiping. Then we have Brock and
43:52
Sheen at their house. The only thing that's interesting about this is because they're
43:55
the ones that are creating the beach trip. And Sheena asks Brock, hey,
44:00
you're still inviting Sandoval because I think you should uninvite him because after that
44:05
water Somalier, I don't think it's gonna be good, which I thought was
44:07
interesting a change of pace from Sheena being kind of a bitch the last couple
44:13
episodes. I'm like, Okay, maybe you're just playing the field. Though,
44:15
maybe you're just doing this to fix your image. I don't know.
44:19
But Brock's like, why should I invite him? He's my bro he should
44:22
be able to come over, and Arianna should just get over it already and
44:24
just accept his apology. Yes, and she knows, like, well,
44:30
it doesn't work like that. And Brock is trying to say that Ariana her
44:36
reaction at the Somalier party was just over the top, like I mean,
44:39
she's so fucking angry, Like she needs to get over it, she needs
44:42
to move on. And she says something like do you know how you react
44:45
in a triggered way and get really volatile and really uppity in short order?
44:52
Like how come you can do it? But arian agat you can understand why
44:54
Ariana would be And Brock seems to understand. But it's the end of the
44:59
day. He's not gonna disinvite Tom. Nope, because he doesn't care.
45:02
He doesn't care, and because the producers are telling them to do it.
45:05
Yeah, anyway. And I don't know, let me just say that my
45:08
vibe with Sheena is like she is playing the counterpoint to Brock because she knows
45:16
that she has to. I don't know that it's really authentic that she's worried
45:21
about Ariana, that she's sticking up for Ariana's reactions and her process. I
45:24
feel like she's just playing the counterpoints that she can appear diplomatic. Now that's
45:30
completely speculative, and it's based on my dumb opinion only, But I'm not
45:34
buying her authenticity yeah at all, based on how she was in the beginning
45:37
and the shit that she has said in her interstitials about Ariana being her backup
45:43
dancer and all of that. I'm like, hmm, you're not genuine,
45:46
Henny, No, not at all. And her and Laala and both their
45:49
interstitials, even in this episode, are still being like, Ariana, just
45:53
get over it because Tom suffered enough. Look at his life. He's a
45:57
loser and you're winning. You've got everything thing, You've got all these brandys
46:00
they keep bringing money, like her trash bag brand deals, dancing with the
46:05
stars. It always comes back to that, which really does reveal their motivation
46:08
in the whole thing exactly. Yeah, they're jelly, Yep, they're jealous.
46:14
And then we have Tom and Ariana's house where Ariana is meeting with an
46:17
interior designer. That's the only thing that's interesting, where she's itemizing everything and
46:22
she says after the water Somalia, She's like, I gotta get the fuck
46:24
out of the house. I'm like, really, that's the reason you want
46:27
to get out of the house. I don't know. Then we have the
46:29
beach day. So everybody shows up to the beach, even Tom Sandoval,
46:36
and arian at first was like, yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm not
46:38
gonna let him ruin the day or whatever. But she shows up and she's
46:42
kind of got a little bit of a chip on her shoulder, little attitude.
46:45
Yep, she knows he's gonna show up and it's gonna be a shit
46:49
show. Everybody knows. Because everybody gets all set up in their respective sides.
46:54
James is the one that draws the fucking line in the sand, literally
46:58
wants Sandoval, which are doesn't seem to appreciate, no, like because he's
47:01
making light of an issue that's going on. And She's just like, hmmm,
47:06
yes, I'm pissed. Yes. And so then everybody kind of starts
47:09
talking together and it's I think it's Schwartz or Sandoval that brings up his sexy
47:16
singles party, and then Sheena is asking what about it? Like she's like,
47:22
what are you talking about? Because as if she's got to know what
47:24
the guys are talking about when she's sitting with the girls, and Arianna doesn't
47:27
want to hear what Sandoval has to say. I don't know that that's what
47:30
it is. I think Brock says something about Raquel to Tom Sandoval. Was
47:35
it before that or after that? It was after because Sheena is talking about
47:38
I think somebody brought up Sena and Schwartz making out in Vegas. Oh that's
47:45
right, yeah, yeah, that's how it got brought up first. And
47:46
then she is like, well, everybody is in this group has flirted with
47:50
me, including you, Tom Sandoval, and then I think Brock brings up
47:52
Raquel, and then Tom says like, that's low hanging fruit, Brock,
47:58
he shouldn't be bringing that up. And then Ariana from the other side pipes
48:02
up and says like, can you guys not talk about this? This is
48:07
fucking disgusting. I'm sitting right here, I don't want to hear it.
48:09
And Tom says I didn't mention it, Brock brought it up, and then
48:13
they immediately start fighting again in front of everybody. Yes, and I think
48:19
in his talking head that's when Sandoval says, no matter what I do or
48:22
say, I'm going to trigger Ariana. And I'm like, okay, then
48:24
why do you show up? Like why do you show up? Why is
48:28
she going to be there? Why does she as is a contract. I
48:30
think they are both vuying for position in the friend group and to stay on
48:36
the show. And I think Ariana knows that if she does not show up
48:38
to these things that she's going to lose her place on the show at some
48:43
point. And I think Ariana has actually spoken about her work ethic like,
48:47
and we learned a couple of episodes ago that she only had two thousand dollars
48:51
in her bank account right at the end of Fucking the Reunion Scandval. When
48:54
Scandival went down, she had no money. So she really needs her various
48:59
jobs. And I think she knows that these things are temporary. She's not
49:02
always gonna have offers to do all these fabulous things, so she wants to
49:07
work. She knows she has to show up at this beach scene that the
49:10
producers have manufactured, and I love the energy she's bringing in. She's like,
49:15
Okay, if you want me to show up, I'm fucking showing up
49:17
and I'm not putting up with this bullshit. So as soon as they start
49:21
talking about that, she just starts popping off and yelling at Tom, and
49:25
they start arguing back and forth, and she's like, don't talk to me,
49:29
don't talk to me. Don't talk I hate when people do that.
49:31
What when they're arguing and they just say the same thing over and over and
49:37
over again. Yeah, just like you're filibustering, Like, can't we have
49:42
a conversation? Okay, I guess not. So they're arguing. Tom ends
49:45
up standing up and walking away, and then Arianna tells the dudes that they
49:53
need to speak to Tom and they need to stick up for her because Tom
49:58
Sandoval is a misogyny and he only essentially responds to other men, like he
50:02
will not listen to a correction from a woman. So it's got to be
50:07
you, guys. You guys gotta tell him, don't talk to me like
50:08
that, don't take jabs at me. And I'm like, but Ariana,
50:12
you started taking jobs first, actually, yeah, and so you got to
50:15
take your own advice. But she's asking these boys, which would be Tom
50:20
Schwartz, Brock, and James Kennedy, to get their boy in check.
50:25
Yeah. Brock starts pushing back a little bit. Yeah, She's like,
50:29
what do you want. He's got his tail between his legs, he walked
50:31
off, What more do you want? Yeah, He's like, just accept
50:35
his apology. And she's like, fuck, no, I'm not going to
50:37
like and she I think this is where she starts getting really fucking mad,
50:40
and she's like, you guys keep pushing me to do shit like this and
50:44
to be involved with this piece of fucking shit who constantly antagonizes me, constantly
50:49
triggers me, constantly, fucking makes jabs and talks shit because he is talking
50:52
shit to these guys, like she knows he's talking shit to everybody about how
50:57
Arien is a big scary bitch and she's got anger problems and blah blah blah
51:00
blah. So she's just getting really mad and she's like, you guys keep
51:02
shoving him down my throat and what do you expect me to? How do
51:07
you expect me to react? And I think Laala shows up to the page
51:10
because she's right around then yeah, yeah, So it's like, right when
51:13
everything's shit, what am I walking into? And of course Lalla sits down,
51:16
she's like what's going on? And Ariana kind of fills her in.
51:20
She's like, well, fucking Sandoval's talking shit, he's being a piece of
51:22
crap. And then Lala's got to put her two cents into it, and
51:25
she's got to be like, well, why don't you just try to have
51:28
a conversation with him? Why don't you just try to talk to him?
51:30
And arian is like, I'm never going to have a talk with him.
51:31
She's like, I literally can't. But she's giving Laala sass. She's just
51:37
like, yeah, that's never gonna happen. Yeah, I'm not going to
51:39
do that. Yeah, he's a piece of shit. Why should I do
51:42
that? And Laala really doesn't have any energy to like counter that thing,
51:45
because Ariana's right, yeah, like, why don't you just stay out of
51:49
it? Why don't you just let it de escalate and die down? Why
51:51
do you need to come in late to the conversation and then try to add
51:53
your superior fucking moral police two cents and tell Ariana how to feel right At
52:00
the same time, I want to have the discussion about Ariana trying to mobilize
52:04
the men, all of whom suck in my opinion, Yeah, to her
52:07
defense, I'm like, first and foremost, you can't ask men who suck
52:10
inherently to have dignity and rise to your defense, because again, they suck.
52:19
But also I don't think anybody should really be expecting other people to take
52:24
care of somebody that you loved and spent nine years with and share a home
52:31
with and have a life with. Like, it's kind of a lot to
52:36
ask people to stand up for you and to argue on your behalf because you're
52:40
in the right. I'm just like, can we not? Can we just
52:44
not involve other people in our petty, fucking, malignant, awful bullshit?
52:50
Yeah? I mean, can't we just learn to if you're going to show
52:53
up Ariana and or Tom? Right, can't I just learn to like keep
52:57
it together? I don't think they can. And I think she's still so
53:01
fucking triggered, Like anytime he shows up, she's like immediately mad and like
53:06
rightfully so. And to me when she was calling out the guys, I
53:08
actually was kind of in supportive. I was like, yeah, go Ariana,
53:12
But at the time, is at their responsibility to take care of Tom
53:15
Sandoval when he's a dick and they're all awful. I don't think she was
53:17
asking them to take responsibility. I think what she was trying to say was
53:21
like, why can't you guys call him out for trying to instigate shit?
53:24
Like but they have well not really, yes, they have James did well.
53:29
James has Brock did in Tahoe, not at the beach at Tom,
53:31
not in that very moment. But at this point, shit's in the ditch,
53:36
shits off the rails. You guys are screaming at each other, and
53:38
we're just trying to sit here and figure out what to do. But like
53:40
a lot of these people have actually tried to talk to Tom Sandival, but
53:45
then they're going to steakhouse dinners with him and acting like it's fine and still
53:47
talking with him. So then, Ariana, what you really want to ask
53:51
is to take my side and to go no contact with Tom Sandoval, which
53:54
you can't fucking do. I know you want to do that. I know
53:59
this is a work such a way and you want it to be more comfortable
54:00
for you, but it's just never going to happen. And these aren't the
54:04
guys that are ever gonna do that for you either, And by the way,
54:06
these aren't the girls that are gonna do that for you except for Katie.
54:08
You only got one girl in this whole group that's gonna do that for
54:12
you, And so I don't know, Well, it's like the whole Kristen
54:15
thing on the Valley It's like, why are you trying to expect any amount
54:20
of integrity from anybody in this group when everybody fucking sucks, specifically Jacks and
54:23
nobody. Yeah, like and like nobody cares about you truly, Like nobody's
54:28
an actual real friend. Because to me, when I was watching this,
54:30
I'm like, well, if it was like a real friend, a real
54:32
friend would be like Sandoval, get the fuck away and stop talking to her,
54:37
stop trying to bring up your lawyer, stop trying to do all this,
54:38
get up and go walk away. And he eventually did after Argan is
54:43
like, don't fucking talk to me, don't fucking talk to me, don't
54:45
fucking talk to me, get the fuck away from me. Like then he
54:47
finally gets his stupid ass up, Like, but he's also instigating it.
54:52
And this goes back to like our earlier discussion, like they're both playing off
54:55
of each other, they're both petty, they're both pissed off at each other.
54:59
I'm sure Sandeval mad at Arianna, Oh my gosh, yeah, things,
55:01
yes, not just the fact that she didn't have sex with him,
55:05
or that she's mean and scary and angry. I think I think he's mad
55:07
that she's got all these brand deals. I think he's mad that she's not
55:10
answering his fucking attorney letter. I think he's mad that the whole fucking world
55:15
at this point in twenty twenty three summer Up people are all team Ariana.
55:19
I think as a narcissist, he's losing his shit. Oh yeah, and
55:22
he's so fucking mad that she also doesn't want to give him the time of
55:24
day. She's not falling for any of his bullshit anymore, and not falling
55:29
for him being like, well, but I'm coming here cap in hand like
55:31
Robin Brown, and I'm trying. I'm apologist. I'm trying to get everything
55:36
worked out. You just don't want to do it. I gave you a
55:37
good offer of three million dollars for the house, and you don't want to
55:40
take it because you're being petty. It's like, it's just this this game
55:45
between them, the two of them, and it's just interesting to watch it
55:47
play out, and it's so volatile. Still it is. I feel like
55:51
the producers have probably had conversations with Arianna and Tom and they're like, this
55:54
is untenable. Like, you guys are an ensemble cast. You guys have
55:58
to film together. And if you guys aren't to do it, well,
56:00
guess what ramifications for you next season? You might not have a job.
56:04
So get your fucking ass to the beach, Ariana, Get your ass to
56:07
the water Somalier party, which no person in their right mind would ever want
56:09
to go in the first place. Get your ass to work, right,
56:14
And so she's She's like, Okay, if I'm gonna go to work,
56:16
it's going to be on my terms, and you're going to get the real
56:21
Ariana. And how I really feel because previous to this, she's been trying
56:23
to avoid him at all costs. Yeah, so things are getting good.
56:29
And I watched Andy Cohen on his ig. He did a live he had
56:34
just arrived in lax and he said that he had seen he had binged the
56:40
last seven episodes of vander Pump Rules, and he's like, and I'm not
56:45
saying this lightly. And by the way, I'm not the executive producer.
56:47
I have like no say in this show at all. I have no investment
56:51
like to make you guys watch I'm just telling you from one person, one
56:53
fan to another, this shit's about to get really good. Now. He
56:58
does say that kind of a lot. Yeah, sometimes with reunions he'll be
57:01
like it's gonna be crazy, and it's not. But I don't know the
57:05
way he was saying it. He's like things are about to pick up,
57:07
as if to acknowledge that it's been a little slow, you know, been
57:12
a little bit snooze fast, and he's just like, it's about to get
57:16
real, and I'm like, yes, I love it. Coupled with The
57:21
Valley, which is also such a trashy shit show, I am so entertained
57:25
on Tuesday nights. I know it's pretty great. Yeah, I mean Bravo,
57:30
they know how to do it. And even though all of these people
57:32
on Bravo, like all these shows, like the people try their best to
57:36
produce themselves and they try to hide their bullshit underneath. We're raccoons, we
57:40
have monocles. We've been doing this all our lives. We are trash connoisseurs.
57:45
We can see you when you're being fake, and the truth always comes
57:50
out. Yet now, the last thing I want to talk with you about
57:52
before we get on out of here is like the rabid nature of the VPR
57:59
fan Like there are people who are so hardcore Team Ariana, Team Katie.
58:04
Yeah, or so hardcore like Team Shena, Team La La. Yeah,
58:09
nobody's hardcore Team Tom Sandoval, But like the women, there's just people who
58:14
are really really on polar opposites. And so sometimes I worry getting up on
58:20
the podcast with you because sometimes I just want to call out the bullshit that
58:24
I see with some of the people that are really loved by the audience,
58:29
and I'm like, oh my god, are people going to get upset?
58:31
Are people going to be mad? Cry? Well? But I mean,
58:36
at the same time, I think it makes it so much more interesting when
58:38
we talk about the layers and the motivations and like the social awareness of Sena
58:45
Shea and what she's doing in front of the cameras, and then how Lala
58:50
is incentivized to keep VPR together because this is our whole fucking paycheck. Yeah,
58:52
and like all of the other things at play, to include the fact
58:57
that Ariana has villain tend in her. You can't tell me any differently,
59:01
and so does Katie. Yeah, it's just Lallashena. So like, sometimes
59:07
I feel like I want to censor myself because I feel like you'll get mad
59:10
at me, we'll fall out. Well, because we were fighting about this
59:13
earlier we were fighting in the kitchen were we were getting really pretty passionate about
59:17
it. But we're just a microcosm yea of like the bigger zeitgeist that is
59:23
the audience for this show. People are people are pissed off. Well,
59:28
it's just indicative of what's happening in the world. Not everything is fucking black
59:31
and white. There's so much new ones to literally everything. And you know
59:35
what, we can all be pieces of shit, like we all have our
59:37
fucking red flags. We can all be toxic, we can all be petty,
59:39
we can all be angry whatever, that's just life. But I'm tim
59:44
Mariana. I'm not Tim Ariana, but I'm gonna call her a bad cat
59:49
mom, and I'm gonna call Tom a bad cat dad. Like I'm just
59:52
gonna tell the truth. And so that's kind of where I ended up at
59:54
the end of the day because I had like some visceral reactions to this episode
59:59
may around the animals, and then Arianna's like fucking attitude about that. But
1:00:05
that doesn't mean I think she's a bad person, and it doesn't mean I
1:00:07
think Tom Sandoval is a good person. I'm just trying to approach from all
1:00:12
kinds of angles. Well, and I'm not going to change myself. No,
1:00:15
And I was born this way gay well and also I think there's a
1:00:22
lot of editing at play too with this too, because I think the producers
1:00:25
are playing on the dynamic of Ariana versus sand of all, because they're both
1:00:30
trying to make each other look bad. I just think that Sandoval looks worse.
1:00:35
I would one hundred percent agree with you, way worse. I think
1:00:38
Arianna is being mad, And like, if you think about it too,
1:00:42
from like if this happened to you and your husband and this was televised,
1:00:46
are you going to be acting like one integrity would mind? Exactly? So
1:00:52
that's how that's where I'm like, Arianna, Yeah, maybe she's a little
1:00:55
fucking heated, Maybe she's a little intense, Maybe she's a bad cat,
1:01:00
maybe she's irresponsible as well, maybe she doesn't clean up her fucking room.
1:01:04
But fuck Tom said, I think she has every right to be fucking mad.
1:01:09
I think she has every right to be petty because I'm a petty bitch
1:01:12
and I would be petty. Yeah, doesn't mean it's right. We can
1:01:15
have those nuanced conversations, all right, we're not internalized misogynists. In short.
1:01:22
Yeah, all right, that's all I have to say about this episode.
1:01:23
Is there anything else that we need to say to these beautiful raccoons?
1:01:27
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1:01:37
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