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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, March 29 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive John with Ashlyn Sullims with John Oshans,
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Speaker 1: Brian Sexty. Jacks Drive and starts right now. Literally a
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Speaker 1: lot of open discussion on where our weaknesses is are,
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Speaker 1: where our opponents weaknesses might be, and where the strength
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Speaker 1: saw and how do we develop it uh and turn
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Speaker 1: it into really a winning film. Now. That open discussion
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Speaker 1: is with Jaguars owner Shod Khan, head coach Doug Peterson,
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Speaker 1: and general manager Trent and Bulky. You can see that
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Speaker 1: interview fully with John Osier later on this afternoon on
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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com. They are all at the NFL Owners
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Speaker 1: meetings this week in Palm Beach. We will get to
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Speaker 1: John Osier live from there shortly. I woke up this morning, Brian,
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Speaker 1: and it is crazy that we are a month away
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Speaker 1: from the NFL Draft. Yeah, a month from last night
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Speaker 1: is the the thirty day mark. It comes fast now.
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Speaker 1: It used to be a drug, right, But the season
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Speaker 1: doesn't even get over now until early February, right, and
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Speaker 1: then you have free agency that kicks into high gear.
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Speaker 1: And this year it was crazier than ever. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I haven't even read that much or seen that much
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Speaker 1: from Pro days just because there's been so much now
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Speaker 1: the owners meetings are a major media event. It just
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Speaker 1: it brings the whole just squeezes the whole calendar. It
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Speaker 1: seems like you never get away from the NFL, which
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Speaker 1: is exactly by the way, how they want it. Absolutely
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Speaker 1: a lot going on, especially this week as we go
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Speaker 1: live to Palm Beach right now with the third member
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Speaker 1: of our show, John Osier, is live from there. Hi,
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Speaker 1: John lan Brian, how are you doing. I I was
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Speaker 1: gonna be I was gonna do this by the pool
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Speaker 1: with my sunglasses on, but I decided to save you
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Speaker 1: guys that visual how about that? Yeah? That would be
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Speaker 1: very much too in your face? All right, John, We
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Speaker 1: just saw that exclusive interview with Jaguar's owner shot Com.
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Speaker 1: What was the biggest takeaway from your sit down with him? Well,
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Speaker 1: probably what we use there for the top. He really
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Speaker 1: liked the vibe in the building between uh Trent Balky
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Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson and the the collaboration I think was
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Speaker 1: the word he used at the communication, A good uh.
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Speaker 1: He talked a lot about eventually in the performance center,
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Speaker 1: which he talked about having much more open communication, open
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Speaker 1: floor plans, open offices where people can collaborate. Uh, it's
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Speaker 1: a big thing for him. He he kept mentioning that
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Speaker 1: he's owned the team ten years, been to a lot
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Speaker 1: of these owners meetings, his level of experience has gone up,
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Speaker 1: but he really hasn't felt that sort of interactive vibe before. Uh,
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Speaker 1: and he thinks it's gonna make a difference. So the
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Speaker 1: other takeaway was he talked a lot about the performance
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Speaker 1: center and talked about how that is a very needed step.
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Speaker 1: I guess that's supposed to open next offseason before next See,
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Speaker 1: he's clearly excited about it, and UH thinks that's a
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Speaker 1: symbolic step with the future of the franchise. You Know,
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Speaker 1: the vibe that I got watching it was that he
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Speaker 1: was calm John and last year never felt calm. That was,
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Speaker 1: you know, because of the coach he brought from college,
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Speaker 1: because of the way that they dramatically reshaped the coaching
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Speaker 1: staff and increased it. It feels like he's calm because
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Speaker 1: he knows that he's gotten the right guy, a professional
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Speaker 1: football coach with a recent track record of success. Well,
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Speaker 1: he sure got a calm guy. So I think that
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Speaker 1: sort of permeates everything in the building. You guys certainly
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Speaker 1: feel it I feel it when I'm at t I Bankfield.
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Speaker 1: There's just a feeling that Doug Peterson. Um. You know,
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Speaker 1: I've never been in a crisis meeting with Doug, but
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Speaker 1: to get the idea that if Doug sit mind his
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Speaker 1: desk and three people walk in and two people are
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Speaker 1: talking over here and it's hey, we gotta do this,
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Speaker 1: that Doug just says, Hey, you know I've seen this before.
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Speaker 1: This is probably what's gonna happen. Let's move on, let's
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Speaker 1: calm down, and let's get back to football. Um. So
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Speaker 1: I think that I'm sure when Doug is speaking the
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Speaker 1: Shot about the team and about issues and about things
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Speaker 1: they need to do, I'm sure that comes across which
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Speaker 1: when Shots talking about the team, I'm sure he channels
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Speaker 1: that a little bit. Hey, Hey, the hey coach feels
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Speaker 1: this way. There's good communication to be the head coach
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Speaker 1: and general manager, Trent Balky and Doug. You know, you
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Speaker 1: can't walk anywhere without seeing those guys together in Palm Beach.
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Speaker 1: So I think that is what's causing Shot to have
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Speaker 1: that have that vibe when he talked to us yesterday
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Speaker 1: with the break, you know, in that same vein read
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Speaker 1: the story like I'm sure you did too. That this
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Speaker 1: team spent more money than the Patriots did last year
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Speaker 1: in free agency, and the Patriots last year set a
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Speaker 1: record for the amount of guaranteed money in a single
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Speaker 1: free agent signing period. We're number one. But it doesn't
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel again, it doesn't feel like they
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Speaker 1: were jumping in and just throwing cash. And I know
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Speaker 1: one's gonna bring up Christian Kirk, but throwing cash like
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Speaker 1: drunken sailors around give us anyone we could get again
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Speaker 1: in that calm. Vane and Doug talked about it during
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Speaker 1: the coaches conference. They've got a plan and they've got
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Speaker 1: an approach that says, these guys help us get better.
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Speaker 1: And so we're not gonna get too high or too
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Speaker 1: low about the guys that we've signed. We just think
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Speaker 1: we did the right thing. Yeah, it's interesting when you
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Speaker 1: talk to national guys, you know, Oh, the Jaguars are
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Speaker 1: spending money, you know. But I think that's sort of
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Speaker 1: a surface reaction to it. I think the people who
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Speaker 1: really looked at the national people talked to you, who
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Speaker 1: really looked at what they signed. So hey, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: these guys all make sense. Uh, They spent a lot
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Speaker 1: of money on, you know, not necessarily the flash names,
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Speaker 1: which Brian I like. After being around this forever, I
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Speaker 1: can care less about a guy's name and fre agency.
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Speaker 1: At this point, I've seen big names crap out. I've
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Speaker 1: seen him do great, So I don't know if they're
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Speaker 1: a good football player. The vibe around the owners meetings
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Speaker 1: is they got a lot of good football player. Is
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Speaker 1: who are going to fit? Um? I asked I pondering
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Speaker 1: the interview, I said, Hey, I don't know if you
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Speaker 1: realize this or not that you wrote a lot of
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Speaker 1: checks last month. He kind of cut me off, and
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Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't not happy about the checks. He said, hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm glad to write him. All I want to know
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Speaker 1: from my football people is why these guys will make
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Speaker 1: us better? And as we mentioned on reporters yesterday, guys
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Speaker 1: he's always done that. There's this reputation sometimes among Jaguars
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Speaker 1: fans o Shod won't do this, won't do that because
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Speaker 1: they haven't won. He's open to that criticism. He gets that,
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Speaker 1: but the reality is he's always been willing to spend.
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Speaker 1: It's just a matter of always spending on the right people. Well,
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Speaker 1: here's where it really where where the rubber will meet
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Speaker 1: the road. In the next two years, the cap takes
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Speaker 1: a dramatic jump forward based on projected revenues from television
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Speaker 1: and obviously the way gambling is coming in. If this
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Speaker 1: team is not setting the record in the next couple
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Speaker 1: of years, when there will be an abundance of money
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Speaker 1: to spend, then they're headed in the right direction. This
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Speaker 1: this you would think, you if Trent Bulky's words from
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Speaker 1: when he joined us a couple of weeks ago are
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Speaker 1: to be believed, and I certainly do. The Jaguars don't
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Speaker 1: want to be that team again, and this is the
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Speaker 1: first step towards not being that. Even though it seems counterintuitive. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think they will get back to a point where Okay,
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Speaker 1: Trent even said I think it was on our show
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Speaker 1: after free agency that next year is a little tighter
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Speaker 1: than this year, just because of the way contracts work,
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Speaker 1: the way money kicks into the guys they signed, etcetera.
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Speaker 1: But you know, most gms, even the gms for the
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Speaker 1: Rams and the really aggressive teams, will tell you that
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Speaker 1: ideally they want to to draft well and develop and
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Speaker 1: then add pieces around. I expect the Jaguars want to
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Speaker 1: do the same thing, and when the timing is right,
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Speaker 1: go for one big piece that matters very much. They
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Speaker 1: can put you over the top and not go after
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Speaker 1: seven five million and pay your own guys. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: that's what Doug Peterson mentioned yesterday. We were watching it
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Speaker 1: live on Jaguars dot com and John, I know you
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Speaker 1: were there. I thought it was kind of honest and
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Speaker 1: pretty funny when Doug Peterson said, yeah, we spent money,
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Speaker 1: we signed seven guys. Do I want to do that
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Speaker 1: every year? No, but they really don't have a choice
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Speaker 1: this year. You have to get better quickly and this
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Speaker 1: is the mold they have to follow, right and now,
8:13
Speaker 1: as you mentioned draft and draft, well here is so
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Speaker 1: that in another couple of years you were writing those
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Speaker 1: big eye opening checks like the packers have right for
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Speaker 1: their own guys exactly, And that really came across when
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Speaker 1: Doug was talking of you know, obviously, you know, I
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Speaker 1: use a fairly normal situation, said the Jaguars fans has
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Speaker 1: seen it too often for their own team. New people
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Speaker 1: come in, they want to make sure they have their
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Speaker 1: own guys. They want to raise the level of talent
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Speaker 1: because usually when new people come in Doug Peterson Trent
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Speaker 1: Balky because because the team hasn't been very good, So
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson's coming into a situation where they've lost, so
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Speaker 1: you need to be aggressive. You need to get holes
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Speaker 1: filled and get to a certain level and then draft
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Speaker 1: maintain that level and then improved from that as Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence gets better. And that's still the whole key John,
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Speaker 1: one more for you before we let you go enjoy
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Speaker 1: Peanut Coladas by the pool. Note Notable to me was
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Speaker 1: when Don Peterson was talking about Cam Robinson and that
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Speaker 1: was really the first time he's addressed the need to
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Speaker 1: bring Cam Robinson back and needing that consistency at left tackle.
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Speaker 1: And he also I thought it was awesome when they
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Speaker 1: talked about Travis e t and in the role he
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Speaker 1: was going to have, and he kind of just smirked
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Speaker 1: and said, we'll see it's truthful. I almost forgot about
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Speaker 1: Travis et and for him to say, hey, he's coming
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Speaker 1: back on the field in a matter of a month,
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Speaker 1: that was exciting. Yeah, and they're still a storyline there
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Speaker 1: to play with both running backs where their health is
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Speaker 1: is they get back and you know that's still going
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Speaker 1: to be a storyline to watch. They're excited about Travis
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Speaker 1: c t and let's hope he's right. No reason to
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Speaker 1: think he's not that Liz Frank can be serious. Back
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Speaker 1: to your question, Nashal, all right, as as we get
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Speaker 1: more of these availabilities, it's usually what happens when you've
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Speaker 1: got a position group like the offensive line. We're getting
9:51
Speaker 1: more of a feel for what the offensive line is,
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Speaker 1: how it's going to play out. Um, they keep talking
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Speaker 1: about getting Cam signed to a contract extension. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: be intrigued to see if that happens, if he's indeed
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Speaker 1: their guy going forward for the next four or five years.
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Speaker 1: They also talked yesterday about Juwan Taylor and Walker Little
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Speaker 1: pretty I mean uh, I say they Doug talked about
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Speaker 1: him pretty clear that they expect that to be a competition.
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Speaker 1: They like both guys, and it's mentioning to see how
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Speaker 1: that plays out. On the other side, says, slowly but
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Speaker 1: surely they're figuring out and and we're getting signs of
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Speaker 1: what that offensive line is gonna be. Now, the question
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Speaker 1: to me is, is Tyler Shatley the guy at center?
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Speaker 1: I hope so. For Tyler's sake, I like him. I
10:31
Speaker 1: want to see him get a shot. Just a thought
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Speaker 1: by the way on Cam. I talked to someone on
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Speaker 1: the other side of the hall, and the thought on
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Speaker 1: him is they believe that the last two years he's
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Speaker 1: done this and that he has gotten better. Even though
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Speaker 1: there have been moments where you're like, yeah, same old Cam,
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Speaker 1: that's not the way they view him. So whether or
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Speaker 1: not they can get a deal done with him remains
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Speaker 1: to be seen. But they want to because they think
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Speaker 1: he is an ascending player and and if if he is,
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Speaker 1: then what a great draft in Yeah, and don't underestimate
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Speaker 1: how much football people loved Cam because he's a guy
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Speaker 1: who wants it. He's who fights for teammates. He's a
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Speaker 1: great teammate. Uh fits in well so. Uh he loves
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Speaker 1: the game. And Trent Balky talked about that a couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks back to this is a guy who shows
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Speaker 1: are how much he cares about it. Uh. They want
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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson to be around. We'll see, yeah, And Coach
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Speaker 1: Peterson said it yesterday as a whole, it's hard to
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Speaker 1: find left tackles that play at a high level in
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Speaker 1: this leek, so when you have them, you gotta pamp
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Speaker 1: so waitis all right? John Os your thank you for
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Speaker 1: joining Jaguars Drive Time, even though you're here every week.
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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Live from Palm Beach, go enjoy the pool.
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Speaker 1: Kind sir, WHOA When we come back on Jaguars Drive Time,
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Speaker 1: former defensive end for the Eagles, a guy that knows
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Speaker 1: coach Peterson very well, Chris Long will join us here
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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network, which signed seven guys right,
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Speaker 1: and seven guys that can help us. You know this year.
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Speaker 1: I don't think you want to go into free agency
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Speaker 1: signing seven guys every year. I don't think that's the model. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And now we have the draft coming up that we
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Speaker 1: can also help and uh, you know with twelve draft picks,
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Speaker 1: bringing more of that talent, bringing war depth, bringing war
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Speaker 1: competition is what you want. With the guys we signed
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Speaker 1: are going to be impact players, you know right away.
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Speaker 1: I love the honesty they're from head coach Doug Peterson.
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Speaker 1: Eta owners meetings. You can catch the full press conference
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Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot com. We're back on Jaguars Drive Time.
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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton will be back shortly. For now, we bring
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Speaker 1: in a guy that knows Coach Peterson incredibly well, Chris Long,
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Speaker 1: former Eagles defensive end, joins us. Now, good morning, and
12:43
Speaker 1: thanks for waking up with us. Hey, good morning. How
12:46
Speaker 1: are y'all? We are great? All right. So we are
12:49
Speaker 1: starting to get to know coach Peterson. He has been
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Speaker 1: here a couple of months and everyone we talked to is, wow,
12:54
Speaker 1: he is such a great guy. But I know you
12:57
Speaker 1: might see a different side of him. Is he has
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Speaker 1: good of a guy As everyone tells us. Coach is
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Speaker 1: an incredible guy. He's the type of guy that, honestly,
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Speaker 1: I always tell people this, he can kind of, you know,
13:10
Speaker 1: pick his battles as a coach um and players will
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Speaker 1: go to the wall for him because he works you hard,
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Speaker 1: but you don't even realize it half the time because
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Speaker 1: you're having fun. It's competitive, and he treats you like
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Speaker 1: an equal. I mean, he was a former player. I
13:26
Speaker 1: was on some of his leadership councils and some of
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Speaker 1: the things that he did behind closed doors where he
13:31
Speaker 1: involved the players and looped them in on decisions and
13:33
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. And I think a lot of
13:36
Speaker 1: times pro coaches their egos are a little too big,
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Speaker 1: or they don't want to bend to players. And I
13:41
Speaker 1: think Doug walked that line really well, still running a
13:44
Speaker 1: tough program, working us hard, but also like having enough
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Speaker 1: fund so that it balanced out. And I know that
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Speaker 1: you were pretty vocal when coach Peterson left Philadelphia, and
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Speaker 1: I read your tweets, but your said he's gonna get
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Speaker 1: another shot soon. So when he got this shot here
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, what was your reaction? It felt like a
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Speaker 1: great fit. You know. Um, I think he can do
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Speaker 1: a lot for for Trevor. Um. I think he can
14:09
Speaker 1: do a lot for kind of the the vibe of
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Speaker 1: a team. He's kind of the opposite of the situation
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Speaker 1: that y'all are emerging from. I mean, he's he's the
14:16
Speaker 1: type of guy that you know, players are absolutely gonna
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Speaker 1: universally love, and he's gonna be a really competent guy
14:21
Speaker 1: who's been there, done that on the pro level. Uh,
14:23
Speaker 1: you know, he's won a Super Bowl. He stabilized the
14:26
Speaker 1: locker room in tough situations, Like you know, I know,
14:29
Speaker 1: there's a lot of crazy stuff that goes on on
14:31
Speaker 1: teams that that struggle. UM, And I've been on teams
14:34
Speaker 1: that struggle. I've been in situations like the Jaguars weld
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Speaker 1: last year. I mean, I played most of my career
14:39
Speaker 1: in St. Louis, So I feel like I'm pretty qualified
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Speaker 1: to say like the type of guy that could could
14:44
Speaker 1: help a situation like that, And I think Doug is
14:47
Speaker 1: the perfect guy from an energy standpoint, a confident standpoint, um,
14:51
Speaker 1: just the you know, kind of the the stones to
14:54
Speaker 1: make the right calls, the bowl calls. I mean, he's
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Speaker 1: done that in Super Bowls. And you know, our team
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Speaker 1: had a lot of ups and downs over those couple
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Speaker 1: of years, and he helped us navigate all those waters.
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Speaker 1: I mean we lost Carson Wentz in l A and
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Speaker 1: went on the road and won a Super Bowl. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know the next couple of weeks. So, Um, he's
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Speaker 1: a great coach and he's seen it all. I feel like,
15:14
Speaker 1: just in a short tenure and Philly relatively speaking, Yeah,
15:17
Speaker 1: you mentioned a guy that's been there and done that,
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Speaker 1: that consistency, and we keep bringing up a Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: champion coach here in Jacksonville. What does that do for
15:27
Speaker 1: a locker room? I mean, you've been in a locker
15:29
Speaker 1: room for many, many years. When you have a Super
15:31
Speaker 1: Bowl champion in there as a coach doesn't mean anything.
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Speaker 1: Does it do anything? I think it does. I only
15:38
Speaker 1: say that because when I got to the Eagles, and
15:39
Speaker 1: when la Garrett Blunt got to the Eagles and a
15:42
Speaker 1: couple of us have won a Super Bowl, people really
15:45
Speaker 1: give you credibility, whether that's warranted or not. As a player, Um,
15:50
Speaker 1: you know, people are always asking, you know, what the
15:52
Speaker 1: what can we do better? What are the keys to
15:55
Speaker 1: getting there? The whole thing? Um. And I think when
15:58
Speaker 1: you have a coach who's won it, he oversaw that
16:00
Speaker 1: whole operation. So you know, it's it's infinitely more impressive
16:05
Speaker 1: to be a Super Bowl head coach because like you
16:07
Speaker 1: were the one who had to manage and you know,
16:09
Speaker 1: preside over all fifty three people in the roster, all
16:12
Speaker 1: three phases of football. Um. You know, it's one thing
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Speaker 1: to have player experience winning a Super Bowl, but I
16:17
Speaker 1: think a coach that wins the Super Bowl, especially in
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Speaker 1: the fashion that we did, having to win games a
16:22
Speaker 1: bunch of different ways. I mean, we we beat the
16:24
Speaker 1: Raiders I think like thirteen seven or something to to
16:27
Speaker 1: secure home field advantage. Um, we beat the Rams on
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Speaker 1: the road in a high scoring game. You know, we
16:33
Speaker 1: we scored forty points basically two weeks in a row
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Speaker 1: through the NFC Championship in the Super Bowl, and that's
16:39
Speaker 1: what it took to win. And we also want a
16:40
Speaker 1: low scoring game again start about. We also want a
16:44
Speaker 1: low scoring game against the Falcons in the playoffs. So
16:48
Speaker 1: he's won every different way. Um, his experience as a
16:51
Speaker 1: coach through that playoff run is such a huge thing
16:54
Speaker 1: when it comes to the locker room and giving a
16:56
Speaker 1: coach cloud incredibility. And Chris, you played in the NFL
17:00
Speaker 1: alt for eleven seasons, so you have so much knowledge
17:03
Speaker 1: about this game and so many connections. That's why I
17:05
Speaker 1: think your podcast, the green Light podcast is so cool.
17:09
Speaker 1: Is that something you always wanted to do when you
17:11
Speaker 1: got out of football, you said, all right, I'm still
17:13
Speaker 1: gonna stay in touch this way. It's funny. I was
17:16
Speaker 1: talking to somebody last week that was on our show
17:18
Speaker 1: about this. I can't remember who, but it's basically I was.
17:24
Speaker 1: I was on Michael Irvan's podcast and he was like,
17:26
Speaker 1: what do you think about podcasts and the kind of
17:27
Speaker 1: same thing because he started a podcast, and I said, like, Michael,
17:30
Speaker 1: we did. We did some of the best podcasts in
17:32
Speaker 1: the world for eleven years or nineteen years ever long
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Speaker 1: like we just did them. And there were no cameras
17:37
Speaker 1: and there were no you know, recordings. I think, I
17:40
Speaker 1: think for football players, it's so natural for us to
17:43
Speaker 1: do something like this as long as it's conversational and
17:46
Speaker 1: it focuses on like, you know, fun, interesting conversations. I mean,
17:50
Speaker 1: that's what we had in locker rooms for the longest time.
17:52
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a whole new grind from a
17:56
Speaker 1: kind of like a standpoint of being responsible for a
17:58
Speaker 1: staff and produced in a show. But I love just
18:02
Speaker 1: having a conversation. So when I come to work in
18:04
Speaker 1: the morning, if we're prepared, it doesn't feel like work.
18:08
Speaker 1: I love it well through the fans watching, check out
18:10
Speaker 1: the green Light podcast. It is an awesome listening. Chris Long,
18:13
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining Jaguars Drive Time. Thank
18:16
Speaker 1: you all for having me go go Coach Doug absolutely,
18:19
Speaker 1: thank you so much. When we come back on Jaguars
18:22
Speaker 1: Drive Time, NFL Network draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah joins the
18:25
Speaker 1: show stay with us. Travis will be able to work
18:39
Speaker 1: a little bit this offseason with us get into this
18:41
Speaker 1: more you know, football drill work. James will be a
18:44
Speaker 1: little more into training camp before we get him. Um.
18:47
Speaker 1: But though it's it's a really good one to kind
18:49
Speaker 1: of a one to combination. Um. There's not a lot
18:53
Speaker 1: of tape on Travis, right, but just listening to the
18:58
Speaker 1: guy like Bernie Parmley, my running back coach, listening to
19:00
Speaker 1: him talk about Travis and some of the things that
19:03
Speaker 1: that they did with him, you know, last year at camp.
19:05
Speaker 1: I think there's some things that we see in him
19:07
Speaker 1: as an offensive staff. James is a guy that can first, second,
19:12
Speaker 1: or third down. Um. You know, he's explosive, he's it's
19:15
Speaker 1: a bigger back. You know, had had a really good
19:18
Speaker 1: season last year. So I think it's a really good
19:20
Speaker 1: one too. Combination went to win. Healthy exciting news for
19:24
Speaker 1: running backs. Travis e ten to get back on the
19:27
Speaker 1: field here in just about a month. It's something we've
19:29
Speaker 1: been waiting for absolutely well. And I think a lot
19:32
Speaker 1: of us have been very cautious with it because we
19:34
Speaker 1: remember Corey Grant and what happened at the same injury
19:37
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. To hear that he's making progress, okay, Um,
19:42
Speaker 1: and then with James Robinson, you know, that's the other
19:44
Speaker 1: injury that generally takes a running back and shortens their career.
19:48
Speaker 1: But speed was never his game anyway, So if you
19:51
Speaker 1: get him back around the time training camp goes, you
19:54
Speaker 1: might be a really good shape. I still think you
19:55
Speaker 1: probably draft somebody fingers crossed. A perfect guy to talk
19:58
Speaker 1: about the draft is joining us right now. Daniel Jeremiah
20:01
Speaker 1: from NFL Network NFL Draft analyst joins Jaguars Drive time
20:05
Speaker 1: right now. Daniel, good morning. How's it going, how's everybody doing?
20:09
Speaker 1: Are doing fantastic? And we have to know we were
20:12
Speaker 1: talking at the combine and offensive lineman. We're dominating the
20:16
Speaker 1: conversation now. Cam Robinson is franchise tag. So what do
20:20
Speaker 1: you think right now for the number one overall pick
20:23
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars? Could they even trade it back? There
20:26
Speaker 1: are so many options. Yeah, there are definitely options here.
20:30
Speaker 1: You know, I think the trade back thing would be
20:33
Speaker 1: kind of dependent on everyone being convinced that the Lions
20:37
Speaker 1: were going to take a quarterback. Um, you know that
20:39
Speaker 1: maybe you could try and nudge the Carolina Panthers potentially
20:43
Speaker 1: to come up. I guess that's one scenario you could
20:44
Speaker 1: look at. But outside of that, I mean, to me,
20:47
Speaker 1: if they're stuck there and they're picking there, all the
20:49
Speaker 1: signs to me point towards an edge rusher and all
20:52
Speaker 1: the signs make the most sense to me. With Aidan Hutchinson,
20:56
Speaker 1: I just think, you know, I think he's the best
20:57
Speaker 1: player in the draft. Personally, I think it's a POSI
21:00
Speaker 1: should of need. I don't have any questions of what
21:02
Speaker 1: he does on the field. You see the production, Um,
21:04
Speaker 1: he's got a variety of ways to get to the quarterback.
21:07
Speaker 1: He can play the run, so he's a complete player.
21:09
Speaker 1: And then off the field, everything that you know you
21:11
Speaker 1: hear about from a leadership standpoint is off the charts.
21:14
Speaker 1: So that to me is is where all the signs
21:17
Speaker 1: of point. And you know, I've used this analogy to me,
21:19
Speaker 1: it's just your parking that ball right in the middle
21:21
Speaker 1: of the fairway with a guy like eight hudgets. You
21:23
Speaker 1: know Daniel when I watched him in Michigan, and I
21:26
Speaker 1: know comparisons are tough to make, but he had a J. J.
21:29
Speaker 1: Watt kind of impact on the game. It didn't matter
21:31
Speaker 1: where they put him, it didn't matter whether it was
21:33
Speaker 1: the run of the past. He just had this distinct
21:35
Speaker 1: ability to make a play on the ball. Who who
21:38
Speaker 1: does he look like to you in terms of an
21:40
Speaker 1: NFL player? Yeah, you know, it's hard to come up
21:44
Speaker 1: with the comparison for him. Um, you know, there's been
21:47
Speaker 1: so many different names that have been thrown out there.
21:50
Speaker 1: I guess the one that I kind of fall back
21:51
Speaker 1: on most is Jared Allen. And you know, I always
21:55
Speaker 1: laugh because you get grief like, oh, just comparing the
21:57
Speaker 1: white defensive vent of the others white defensive ends. Um,
22:00
Speaker 1: but he that's who reminds me of just from a
22:03
Speaker 1: standpoint of tenacious. I was talking to somebody who was
22:06
Speaker 1: at his pro day, one one of the coaches that
22:07
Speaker 1: helped kind of run him through the drills, and said,
22:10
Speaker 1: this guy's this guy has got a limitless uh tank.
22:15
Speaker 1: You know, like you try and gas defensive linemen out
22:17
Speaker 1: because a lot of times you get sacks. Like the
22:19
Speaker 1: difference between uh, you know, somebody who gets eight sacks
22:22
Speaker 1: and somebody who gets fourteen sacks is really it's really
22:25
Speaker 1: not that much. What it is. It's those guys, those
22:27
Speaker 1: extra sacks, those extra six sacks. A lot of times
22:30
Speaker 1: they're just off persistence and effort and there's just no
22:34
Speaker 1: slow down to this dude at all. So with the J. J.
22:37
Speaker 1: Watt comparison that you made with with Jared Allen, that's
22:41
Speaker 1: what those guys did. They made a living on that.
22:43
Speaker 1: So is there any smoke or any fire I should say?
22:47
Speaker 1: Or is it all smoke with with Trayvon Walker climbing
22:50
Speaker 1: and does he belong in the conversation at the top
22:52
Speaker 1: of the draft or is that just a rising player?
22:55
Speaker 1: Uh in your estimation. I was joking with the buddy
22:59
Speaker 1: in the league this morning about this because I love
23:02
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker and I've I've got him all the way
23:04
Speaker 1: up to my sixth player. Um. I feel like I've been,
23:08
Speaker 1: you know, kind of driving the bus a little bit
23:10
Speaker 1: on him and trying to tell people that this dude's
23:12
Speaker 1: gonna go way up there and he's a really good player.
23:14
Speaker 1: I remember my first or gosh, one of my first
23:17
Speaker 1: mock drafts. I had him going five to the Giants
23:19
Speaker 1: before the combine, and the Giants fans lost their minds.
23:23
Speaker 1: There's no way this guy can go up there with
23:25
Speaker 1: the fifth overall pick. And I'm like, no, no, he's
23:27
Speaker 1: pretty good now, um. And so now he's he's launched
23:30
Speaker 1: himself all the way up into the discussion for the
23:31
Speaker 1: first overall pick. Um, I couldn't. I as much as
23:34
Speaker 1: I love him, he's my sixth player. I couldn't justify
23:37
Speaker 1: that over Aidan Hutchinson just because I know what I'm
23:40
Speaker 1: buying with Aidan Hutchinson. There is some projection still there
23:43
Speaker 1: with Walker, but in terms of doing your due diligence,
23:46
Speaker 1: doing your homework and him, you know, being the discussion
23:48
Speaker 1: with that pick, Yeah, I think that's I think that's reasonable,
23:51
Speaker 1: all right. And what is going on with safety Kyle
23:54
Speaker 1: Hamilton's both of our colleagues, Buckie Brooks always talks about him,
23:57
Speaker 1: says he's one of the most talented, if not the
23:59
Speaker 1: most talented player in the draft. And all of a sudden,
24:02
Speaker 1: I'm seeing he's falling rapidly. Is that dramatic? Is that
24:05
Speaker 1: actually happening? What is going on with this guy? Yeah?
24:08
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know that he'd say he's falling dramatically,
24:11
Speaker 1: but I would say in this day and age right now,
24:15
Speaker 1: it's it's a position that's not his valued league wide.
24:19
Speaker 1: I don't agree with it. I mean, he's my fourth
24:21
Speaker 1: overall player in this draft. Um, But when you add
24:24
Speaker 1: in the fact that teams aren't is uh you know,
24:27
Speaker 1: aren't is high on the position, and then you go
24:30
Speaker 1: to the combine he ran a four or five nine,
24:32
Speaker 1: which is okay time, but not you know, a top
24:35
Speaker 1: ten pick type time. And then he went to the
24:38
Speaker 1: Pro day and he ran in the four sevens. He
24:40
Speaker 1: ran four seven four and four seven flat, which you're
24:43
Speaker 1: not good times. So again I go back to the tape,
24:46
Speaker 1: and you want to trust the tape, and I think
24:48
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a great player at the next level.
24:50
Speaker 1: But if you're sitting here today on March twenty nine,
24:53
Speaker 1: if you asked me, you had to decide one way
24:56
Speaker 1: or the other. Is he going to, you know, in
24:57
Speaker 1: the top ten or does he not going to top ten?
24:59
Speaker 1: I I would say I think there's a good chance
25:01
Speaker 1: he falls out of the top ten. So Daniel away
25:04
Speaker 1: from the over the first overall pick on day one
25:06
Speaker 1: to the first overall pick on day two at number
25:08
Speaker 1: thirty three. Um, I'm a best player available guy, you
25:11
Speaker 1: know if that's an offensive lineman. But I understand need.
25:15
Speaker 1: Will the Jaguars have to take some of their draft capital.
25:17
Speaker 1: They have twelve picks, they have two third round picks
25:20
Speaker 1: and move back into the bottom of the first round
25:22
Speaker 1: to get a receiver or should they stay right there
25:25
Speaker 1: and there will be somebody, Well, I think you got
25:28
Speaker 1: to kind of let it play out a little bit.
25:30
Speaker 1: If if we end up with, you know, two guys
25:32
Speaker 1: going in the top ten, and then you start to
25:34
Speaker 1: see a couple more go off early in the teams,
25:37
Speaker 1: then you know, you probably a little jumpy because I
25:40
Speaker 1: think there is kind of a little bit of a
25:42
Speaker 1: cut off there. I have eight guys in my in
25:44
Speaker 1: my top fiftieth receiver position, but I think there's a
25:47
Speaker 1: little bit of a drop off after those first I
25:50
Speaker 1: think five guys that I have. So if you want
25:52
Speaker 1: one of those guys, yeah, I think you might have
25:54
Speaker 1: to go up a little bit. If you're content with
25:56
Speaker 1: sticking and picking, you know, you can get a Christian Watson,
25:59
Speaker 1: who I really from from North Dakota State. You can
26:01
Speaker 1: get a Sky More it's a really good player out
26:04
Speaker 1: of the macum. But if you want one of those
26:06
Speaker 1: top guys, I think you've got to kind of see
26:08
Speaker 1: how this plays out. The best thing that could happen
26:10
Speaker 1: to them would be, you know, these quarterbacks go off
26:13
Speaker 1: a little bit higher than we think, and that would
26:16
Speaker 1: push everybody down a little bit, including those white outs.
26:19
Speaker 1: Absolutely a need at wide receiver. Daniel Jeremiah, thank you
26:22
Speaker 1: so much for joining Jaguars Drive Time. We appreciate your time,
26:26
Speaker 1: all right, have a great day, absolutely you as well.
26:28
Speaker 1: More to come on Jack's Drive Time, stay with us.
26:41
Speaker 1: It's hard to find really really good left tackles on
26:45
Speaker 1: this week, um, and we'd been like camp, it's one
26:48
Speaker 1: of those good tackles, and uh, we're just fortunate to
26:51
Speaker 1: be able to, you know, franchise him, keep him, keep
26:54
Speaker 1: him here, hopefully work out a long term deal with him,
26:57
Speaker 1: so he's around more than just a year. Um. But
27:01
Speaker 1: but keeping that and knowing his experience and knowing his expertise, really, man,
27:05
Speaker 1: is easy for us to kick Brown coach Doug Peterson
27:09
Speaker 1: on why the Jaguars franchise tag Cam Robinson will come
27:13
Speaker 1: back to Jaguars Drive Time one more segment for you
27:15
Speaker 1: and Brian I liked the honesty at the very end
27:18
Speaker 1: of that quote. He said with offensive line. Though we're
27:21
Speaker 1: not done yet. Oh no, yeah, no, no no. And
27:23
Speaker 1: and if you recall Brandon Linder, who was an eight
27:26
Speaker 1: year starter here was a third round pick. Um, Aja
27:30
Speaker 1: Can was a third round pick. You you can find value.
27:33
Speaker 1: And Ben Barge played well last year. He was a
27:35
Speaker 1: fourth round pick. You know. The interesting thing is Walker
27:38
Speaker 1: Little is a tackle. I don't think Walker Little's guard right.
27:41
Speaker 1: You get him over on the right side if he
27:42
Speaker 1: wins that competition. And I've said this for a while now,
27:46
Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor to me, I think could be a Pro
27:48
Speaker 1: Bowl guard. You know, inside, I think he's a Mahler.
27:52
Speaker 1: Can Ben Bart's play center? Right him? And he played
27:54
Speaker 1: left tackle? He's played guard? Can he play center? Can
27:57
Speaker 1: Can he be the future at center? Maybe not this year,
27:59
Speaker 1: may be that's Tyler Shatley, but you groom him to
28:02
Speaker 1: be the next guy and then go draft another guard
28:04
Speaker 1: to come in with depth. I think Joan Taylor is
28:06
Speaker 1: a good football player. I think Walker Little is a
28:08
Speaker 1: really good football player. If you don't deploy them in
28:11
Speaker 1: a way that gives you the best possible combination, that
28:14
Speaker 1: you don't have your best players on the field right.
28:15
Speaker 1: Walk a Little belongs on the field this year. Joan
28:18
Speaker 1: Taylor belongs on the field this year. I think you
28:20
Speaker 1: could dramatically improve this offensive line if Walker Little wins
28:24
Speaker 1: the right tackle job. That is going to be a
28:26
Speaker 1: fascinating to be fun battle in training. Now, Joan Taylor
28:29
Speaker 1: wants to hold onto because tackles make more than guards,
28:31
Speaker 1: but Brandon Church his best interest to Brandon Schurch is
28:34
Speaker 1: doing pretty good. Yes. Yes. We asked human Taylor at
28:36
Speaker 1: the very end of the season and someone brought up,
28:39
Speaker 1: you know, moving to guard, and he said, well, I'm
28:41
Speaker 1: a I'm a right tackle absolutely, and that's the perfect
28:44
Speaker 1: answer he needed to say that. Well, that's because that's
28:46
Speaker 1: gonna make it interesting if you're making seventeen million dollars
28:48
Speaker 1: a year playing guard, because you're a damn good guard,
28:51
Speaker 1: asked Brandon Sure, what seventeen million bank account? Yeah. I
28:56
Speaker 1: wouldn't worry about the position you played. Just get on
28:57
Speaker 1: the field and win. All right, let's talk quarterbacks. This
29:00
Speaker 1: was a very cool. One of my friends, Mark Whiteman,
29:03
Speaker 1: is the sports director up in South Carolina, and he
29:05
Speaker 1: shot this package from Trevor Lawrence and his youth football camp,
29:09
Speaker 1: and he texted me saying, you're not going to believe this.
29:11
Speaker 1: There were fifteen hundred kids at Trevor Lawrence's first youth
29:16
Speaker 1: football camp and he said, Ashlyn, I've never seen a
29:19
Speaker 1: police presence at this football camp, but it was needed
29:22
Speaker 1: because they didn't want to shy any kids away. Kids.
29:26
Speaker 1: He's an absolute star. Crazy. We knew that when he
29:29
Speaker 1: came down. Uh, he was dealt a tough hand last
29:32
Speaker 1: year with a roster that was in reconstruction and a
29:35
Speaker 1: coach who didn't have a clue how to coach him
29:37
Speaker 1: and get him ready. Um, now he has got it.
29:40
Speaker 1: And if you're Trevor Lawrence right and you see what's
29:43
Speaker 1: capable of happening here. You see the money that the
29:45
Speaker 1: owner has committed in free agency, You see the staff
29:48
Speaker 1: that Doug Peterson has built. You see your buddy Travis E.
29:51
Speaker 1: T N coming back. You have to feel really good
29:54
Speaker 1: about where this thing is headed. You see the construction
29:56
Speaker 1: with the performance quickly right, Um, everything is changing for
30:01
Speaker 1: the better around here. And that calm presence of Doug
30:04
Speaker 1: Peterson it has to make Trevor Lawrence as excited today
30:08
Speaker 1: as he was last year. And that's a do over,
30:10
Speaker 1: right And what's the commercial staples with the easy button,
30:13
Speaker 1: the reset button? He got it? Who gets that? Yeah?
30:17
Speaker 1: And he briefly you mentioned excitement. He briefly talked about
30:19
Speaker 1: the upcoming season at this youth football camp. So let's
30:21
Speaker 1: see what he had to say. Obviously last year was
30:25
Speaker 1: it was a long year, and um, he's got a
30:27
Speaker 1: lot to get better. At and now that we know
30:28
Speaker 1: where we're at and picking up some guys will help
30:30
Speaker 1: us a lot. And just excited. We got a lot
30:32
Speaker 1: of good guys on that team. And then you know,
30:34
Speaker 1: the new staff has been awesome to him. So I'm
30:36
Speaker 1: really pumped this year and excited. Cool to just see
30:39
Speaker 1: a guy that gets an ensuing it right and look
30:42
Speaker 1: to have him healthy to not have suffered an injury. Um,
30:46
Speaker 1: and he took a beating at times last year, but
30:49
Speaker 1: to be healthy heading into the offseason and not rehabbing
30:51
Speaker 1: something and slowing him down with his new staff, I'm
30:54
Speaker 1: telling you, um, the easy button, the reset button. They
30:59
Speaker 1: got it, They got it did, and that is Jaguars
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