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Italy Lose to Norway, Beat Moldova in World Cup Qualifiers - Ep. 270 · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: on the Couch of Guys. Agiano Jenny, I'm Nicholas. Follow
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  Speaker 1: Here we are guys, Episode two seventy of the Couch
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  Speaker 1: of Guys. Almost seven years. We've been doing this, doing
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, and it feels like third time's coming in
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  Speaker 1: terms of Italy in the World Cup qualifying. I know
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  Speaker 1: the first time around we weren't doing the podcast yet,
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  Speaker 1: but we know we complained a lot about it when
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  Speaker 1: we started. But first I got to ask you, guys,
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  Speaker 1: how's it going?
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  Speaker 5: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: No, I mean today a bit better than Friday, if
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  Speaker 4: I'm honest. Uh, Johnny had a roller coaster of a
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  Speaker 4: weekend and in a couple of days here but uh,
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  Speaker 4: but yeah, happy to be back. Like always. Unfortunate uh
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  Speaker 4: circumstances in terms of Italy. But uh, we'll dive into
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  Speaker 4: it later. But you're happy, happy to be back like always.
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm doing okay. Now you guys heard me, You
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  Speaker 3: heard me Ben before the show. Uh we that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just let's just leave it like that.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you could say Italy stunk up the place
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  Speaker 1: against Norway. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And you know it's funny because we're doing this Monday
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  Speaker 1: night after the win against Moldova, but it feels like
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  Speaker 1: the loss on Friday. It just left a sour taste
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  Speaker 1: in our mouth. You know, Today's win, it feels like
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  Speaker 1: they had to win split these last match. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk plain about that. But Norway, the Norway game, it
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  Speaker 1: just felt like dish of you. It felt like the
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  Speaker 1: games against Spain and Sweden in twenty seventeen. It felt
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  Speaker 1: like the games against Switzerland and North Macedonia in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty two. You know, this is just this is the
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  Speaker 1: game they needed to win. This is their direct opponent
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  Speaker 1: in the standings, and they lost. And you know, I know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people could say, yes, Normway, they already played
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  Speaker 1: two games, this was Italy's first game. Maybe they had
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  Speaker 1: the nerves this and that, but no excuse, no excuse,
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  Speaker 1: this is Italy. No, you know, no disrespect to Norway,
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  Speaker 1: but Italy had to win this game. You know, you're
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  Speaker 1: coming into this game already down two matches played, six
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  Speaker 1: points and now you go away down to matches nine
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  Speaker 1: points back. You know what what I've been. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I had a couple of conversations about this with coworkers today.
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  Speaker 1: What I said, it's like World Cup qualifying for Europe.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's short. You know, they play eight games. There's
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  Speaker 1: some teams who play six games. This is almost the
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  Speaker 1: equivalent of Okay, not almost the equivalent equivalent, but it
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  Speaker 1: feels like, you know, in a tournament where you only
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  Speaker 1: play three games and every game counts eight games. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a lot. It feels like Norway's gonna win
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  Speaker 1: out the group at this point, at least until they
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  Speaker 1: play Italy in November. So this was a huge loss,
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  Speaker 1: and just watching it, it is just I don't know
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  Speaker 1: about you, guys, but I can't say I was surprised
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  Speaker 1: because deep down, I know we talked about it last week.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, hey, guys, we need to win this game.
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  Speaker 1: This is a good team, this could happen and it
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  Speaker 1: did three nothing, terrible defense, no offense. They had the
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  Speaker 1: first shodden what in the ninety second minute. Just terrible game.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what do you guys? Were you guys
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  Speaker 1: surprised at all?
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  Speaker 4: Johnny, I let you go first.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm how to explain it.
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  Speaker 1: I think we.
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  Speaker 3: Said it perfectly. You know, like it's after missing two Cups,
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  Speaker 3: two World Cups in a row, like everything becomes super
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  Speaker 3: serious and even you know, the qualificating games feel like
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  Speaker 3: if they're their actual World Cup matches themselves. And we
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  Speaker 3: I think we did say many times that Norway, even
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  Speaker 3: though they're not the biggest nation in terms of population,
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  Speaker 3: they they've had recent uh you know, successes in European tournaments.
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  Speaker 3: And now when I see successes, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 3: going above and beyond what people were pretty getting them
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  Speaker 3: to do, uh and early in halland being one of
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  Speaker 3: the top strikers of the world, you know, on that
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  Speaker 3: roster as well. It's it's a team that you still
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  Speaker 3: have to take seriously. And even though this team was
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  Speaker 3: they played well and all in all respects and they
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  Speaker 3: performed beyond expectations. I felt like this game could have
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  Speaker 3: been mitigated or a different result if Spiletti wasn't trying
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  Speaker 3: to fit square pieces into round holes. I think the
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  Speaker 3: overall thing that was the main issue with this matchup
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  Speaker 3: was the formation. Was the formation that he decided to choose,
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  Speaker 3: a three five one one. I don't like this at all.
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  Speaker 3: This is something that's out of his character. And this
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  Speaker 3: is something that the players that you're choosing to play
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  Speaker 3: in those roles are out of their elements too.
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  Speaker 2: When does the.
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  Speaker 3: Lorenzo playing the three man back line when he's always
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  Speaker 3: played in the fore man back line?
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  Speaker 2: The Lorenzo performs.
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  Speaker 3: His best in a four man back line, and he
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  Speaker 3: cannot perform well, he's not defensively sound enough to play
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  Speaker 3: in the three man back line, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's a terrible defender, but he's he
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  Speaker 3: can't play in a three man back and he may
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  Speaker 3: and everyone like you know, obviously they have the right
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  Speaker 3: to criticize him, and they openly criticize him and stuff
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  Speaker 3: because he doesn't have the speed for it. But what do.
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  Speaker 2: You expect him to do?
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  Speaker 3: You're it's like as if you're asking a fish to
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  Speaker 3: climb a tree. It's it's not it this is not
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  Speaker 3: what he's used to playing. It's not with forte, and
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  Speaker 3: it creates frustrations for a player.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: It's like because then afterwards they get blamed or you know,
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  Speaker 3: they get they get embarrassed because they feel like as
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  Speaker 3: if they're you know, like they feel like idiots because
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  Speaker 3: they're getting exposed by some player, some fast wingers.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: So that's one thing that tag. He's and no man's
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  Speaker 3: land up front on his own. He's got no support.
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  Speaker 3: This is the leading scorer of city. It's not like
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  Speaker 3: as if this guy has trouble scoring, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: he could score goals.
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing not giving.
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  Speaker 3: Him like a winger or some sport of some sort,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like maybe instead of having like a like
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  Speaker 3: a more of a.
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  Speaker 2: Like a more like a it's.
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  Speaker 3: Up a costa being further wide, like move them in
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  Speaker 3: a bit more, you know, like it's uh, it.
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  Speaker 2: Just this formation does not make sense to me.
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  Speaker 3: It just feels like as if a lot of players
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  Speaker 3: are like since when is balla bare more defensive than offensive?
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  Speaker 3: We saw this in the Switzerland game. We got we
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  Speaker 3: had Baa playing more more of a center mid center
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  Speaker 3: defensive mid role rather than you know of like a
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  Speaker 3: more offensive like he was. He was way out of
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  Speaker 3: his own for it. And he was asked because obviously
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  Speaker 3: because of injuries, because it was tonally that Tonale got
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  Speaker 3: injured and the.
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  Speaker 2: Before the Switzerland game, right, was it Tonalite that got injured?
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  Speaker 2: Was it that?
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  Speaker 3: Butella had to basically do their role against in the Euros?
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  Speaker 4: In the Euros, Yeah, well he was suspended.
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  Speaker 1: He was suspended.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it was. Yes, that's what it was.
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  Speaker 3: But anyways, yeah, like oh yeah, sorry, who was it
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  Speaker 3: that was in that role that they had, but Couch
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  Speaker 3: anyways was a look at I can't remember who, but
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  Speaker 3: basically told Balla to play like that. But I was like,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't do that, and but his bloody's like
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  Speaker 3: do I bud? And you know, but all the horribly
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  Speaker 3: neuros and we saw this in the Noy game. Everybody
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  Speaker 3: looked way out of sorts, but was obviously exhausted to
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  Speaker 3: from playing all these competitions, you know, and it was
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  Speaker 3: really long season and being a very important player for Inter.
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  Speaker 3: So like I'm not like, this is not me shitting
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  Speaker 3: on the guys. I'm not cheating on the players, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say, like, obviously, you know, like they
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  Speaker 3: are to have some blame to for a three zero loss,
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  Speaker 3: but people need to understand the context is that.
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  Speaker 2: They're not being utilized properly. So they're frustrated too.
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  Speaker 3: They're disheartened, they're frustrated there they feel embarrassed because they
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  Speaker 3: feel like as if they look like a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: clowns because they're not being used properly. It's like Maden
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  Speaker 3: trying to use a screwdriver to Naila, to nail us
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  Speaker 3: something in the wall.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's like.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's it could work if you hit hard enough,
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  Speaker 3: but it's it's not.
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  Speaker 2: It's that's not what it's meant for.
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  Speaker 1: So, uh, your analogies are on point tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ranting so much recently that I'm trying to
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  Speaker 3: come up with stuff on the fly. But all in all,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what the main frustration was for the
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  Speaker 3: Noia game. For me, was more about the formation being
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  Speaker 3: used and players being used in the wrong spots. I
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  Speaker 3: think a lot of people that we that we know
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  Speaker 3: very well and we've had discussions with, I've said that
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  Speaker 3: it's not a question of talent.
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  Speaker 2: It might be a question of talent.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe there's talent does play at a certain point, but
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  Speaker 3: organically these players on the pitch and all because if
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  Speaker 3: these are guys are playing third division you know in
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  Speaker 3: England or second division Spain.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, these.
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  Speaker 3: Are all top like players. There is talent in this roster.
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  Speaker 3: Let's let's be realistic here. These guys are talented players,
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  Speaker 3: but as talented as you may be, you need to
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  Speaker 3: be used properly. And I think that's what it came
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  Speaker 3: down to.
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  Speaker 1: I think what my problem what I saw. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of I tweeted it after the games. It
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  Speaker 1: almost seems like it's a mentality problem too, where they
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  Speaker 1: just seem so checked out and you know, watching the game,
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  Speaker 1: there was just zero creativity. It seemed as if they
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  Speaker 1: didn't practice together. Like I understand, the national team is tough,
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  Speaker 1: especially at the end of a season where a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these guys don't play together. They're playing a new system,
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  Speaker 1: very little time. Look the interplayers. They played. This game
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  Speaker 1: was on Friday, the Champions League final was on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have a lot of time. I get that,
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  Speaker 1: I understand that, but the way they're even just play
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  Speaker 1: the way they were even just passing around the ball.
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  Speaker 1: It seemed like they didn't know what to do with it,
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  Speaker 1: and you kind of saw that that that's why they
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  Speaker 1: had such little offense. One shot on target, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: insane and it kind of reflects also because they did
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  Speaker 1: have sixty three sixty three percent possession, but it was
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  Speaker 1: just a lot of passing around and they got beat
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  Speaker 1: on the counter. So once they lost the ball, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't know what to do defensively. So it came down
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  Speaker 1: to coaching and I think mentality. Look, guys, we know
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  Speaker 1: Italy does have a talent problem, but I don't think
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  Speaker 1: the talent problem is as bad as you lose three
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  Speaker 1: nothing to Norway. I think that comes down to coaching
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  Speaker 1: and mentality. I think, you know, with a proper coach,
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  Speaker 1: proper mentality, this team maybe goes to let's say round
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  Speaker 1: to sixteen at the World Cup quarterfinals, maybe round of
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  Speaker 1: sixteen at the year olds like we saw last summer.
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  Speaker 1: We know the talent's not there to win the World Cup.
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  Speaker 1: That's a whole other story. But the coaching is was
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  Speaker 1: actively making the team worse. It almost seemed as if
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  Speaker 1: spled to you and the players knew he was done
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  Speaker 1: before that game. But yeah, that's that's my little rat.
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  Speaker 4: I know. Listen, guys, it's it's an accumulation of things.
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  Speaker 4: It's not one thing that personally, in my opinion like
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  Speaker 4: it's it's a just many different factors. I've been saying
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  Speaker 4: it recently a lot, and you know, and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: echo to what Nick was saying there with the mentality,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's clear, uh for me, it's all up here.
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  Speaker 4: It's all it's all up upstairs. It's it's it's a
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  Speaker 4: mental thing because when you when you wear this shirt,
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  Speaker 4: you have to feel something. You have to feel pride,
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  Speaker 4: you have to feel the pressure, you have to feel
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  Speaker 4: the joy and the honor to to to wear the
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  Speaker 4: Adulity Blue. I'm sorry, guys, but I don't I didn't
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  Speaker 4: see anybody even have that type of urgency or any
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  Speaker 4: any type of you know, willingness to to to fight
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  Speaker 4: and die for the shirt. Like it's it's unfortunately, it's
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  Speaker 4: cringe maybe sometimes to say, and sometimes maybe people try
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  Speaker 4: to build out of the proportion, but at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the day, it's the truth. Who really fought ass
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  Speaker 4: off for for for the AZU on On on Friday,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't see anybody. It's it's a it's a shame
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  Speaker 4: because I'm in the I'm in the space where there
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  Speaker 4: where I agree that you know there there are there
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  Speaker 4: is talent. I think it's it's putting it all together.
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  Speaker 4: I've said that a lot on the show, you know,
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  Speaker 4: putting all the pieces together and all the right puzzle
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  Speaker 4: pieces in the right spots. Uh to to to have
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  Speaker 4: a finished product. That seems to be the issue. Now
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  Speaker 4: we can go in formations, we can go with you
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  Speaker 4: know players, you know, maybe a bit of a position,
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  Speaker 4: and but there's just no cohesiveness regardless, like forget all that.
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  Speaker 4: There's just no cohesiveness. There's no what do we say
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  Speaker 4: back in back in the Euros, different formation, sorry, different
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  Speaker 4: starting eleven every game we have not we have still
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  Speaker 4: ka Granted I'm gonna I'm gonna hold my really big
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  Speaker 4: rant because we are a bit injured. It's after the
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  Speaker 4: city that season. We can we can kind of call
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  Speaker 4: a spade a spade and say, you know what, these
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  Speaker 4: guys are exhausted. There are humans at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the day. I get all that. But if we're still
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  Speaker 4: figuring out what our best eleven is, what the optimal
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  Speaker 4: formation is for the players that we have at our disposal.
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  Speaker 4: There's a major problem. It cannot be that we're coming
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  Speaker 4: up short against again, no disrespect to Norway, what the
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  Speaker 4: guys said, you know, give them their their their praises
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  Speaker 4: that they've gone out and they fought and uh, you
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  Speaker 4: know they took advantage of a of a week in Italy,
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  Speaker 4: not only physically but mentally as well, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: shut out to that. But it cannot be in a
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  Speaker 4: world where we live in that Italy has to suffer
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  Speaker 4: and to get luckily a shot on target in the
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  Speaker 4: ninety second minute. If that were still would have blown
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  Speaker 4: any earlier, we would have had no shots on target
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  Speaker 4: alone one by Lorenzo look at the end. So you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's like I said, it's a multitude of things, you
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  Speaker 4: know Spiletti, love them or hate them, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: firing him or mutually you know, agreeing to to to
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  Speaker 4: part ways with the national team, whatever you want to
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  Speaker 4: label it as, Uh, him not going to be there
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  Speaker 4: come the next games in September is not going to
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  Speaker 4: be the automatic switch. And you know overnight everything is
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  Speaker 4: going to change and oh my god, now we're going
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  Speaker 4: to be playing beautiful football. We're going to figure out everything.
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  Speaker 4: All the players are going to be in position, We're
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  Speaker 4: going to score all kinds of goals. We're going to
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  Speaker 4: finish first place in this qualifying group. It doesn't work
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  Speaker 4: like that. Uh, you know, I think there needs to
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  Speaker 4: be a major uh, you know, overhaul uh in Italian
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  Speaker 4: football in general, the FI g C.
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  Speaker 2: UH.
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  Speaker 4: It's clear that even them, they're they're they're sitting back
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  Speaker 4: on you know, on their protective seats and and not
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  Speaker 4: really doing anything. Why was it grivin and making a
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  Speaker 4: press conference and explain this this disaster that we're that
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  Speaker 4: we have that fans have to witness. People pay their
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: harder money to go watch stuff like that. And Gravina
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  Speaker 4: is nowhere to be found. He doesn't want to put
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  Speaker 4: an interview, he doesn't want to get interviewed by you know,
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  Speaker 4: the depress. He doesn't want he runs away. Where is he?
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  Speaker 4: He's nowhere to be found. Now we don't know the
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  Speaker 4: day to day. We we like to pinpoint and say,
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  Speaker 4: oh yeah, this guy out, this guy out, this guy out.
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  Speaker 4: If you don't want that backlash, I always come forward
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  Speaker 4: and explain yourself and the scenario that's at hand. And
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  Speaker 4: try to make it even seem like you're trying to
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  Speaker 4: fix something. We've gotten too complacent, we've gotten too into
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  Speaker 4: our own idea that you know, it's okay, it's okay,
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  Speaker 4: we're just gonna, you know, sweep it under the rug.
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  Speaker 4: We're just gonna go go on with time and hopefully
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  Speaker 4: when time passes, things will get better. But if you
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  Speaker 4: don't work at it, and if you don't change things,
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  Speaker 4: how is how's things supposed to get better? So again,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's frustrating that three zero result is just you know,
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  Speaker 4: a snapshot of what's wrong with with the Ajuri uh
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  Speaker 4: And it's a shame because we love we love supporting
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  Speaker 4: the national team a lot and always I know what
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  Speaker 4: I do, so it stings when when you have to
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  Speaker 4: witness stuff like that and putting all that aside. I
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  Speaker 4: do agree that, like we said earlier, there is talent
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  Speaker 4: on this on this team. I don't think every every
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  Speaker 4: player is garbage like some people say. I have a
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  Speaker 4: hard time believing that some of our you know, better players.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say we have any world class players.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: And if we do, it's done a rouma and you're
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: not gonna win with just a goalie, right, So that's
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: let's put that aside. But I have a hard time
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: believing that we have to struggle with the players that
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: we do have. Were their absentees, yes, where they're back,
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: maybe some not merit based coll ops in the past.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Absolutely have we been injured a bit in this window.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: People were dropping like fives we said the last week.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: So that doesn't help. And you're only able to play
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: with what you have at your disposal. You know, you can't.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: You can't expect miracles, you know, with with when you
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: don't have your full when you don't have your full
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: line now, but again that's for me, no excuse. I
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: think you should still be able to today. It should
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: have been comfortable. It was two nil for me, This
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: needs to be a four to five nil type of result.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: You know, we're we're lucky we didn't go behind in
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: the match, but we'll get into that later. But the
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Norway match, yeah, it's just it's just from start to finish,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: like there was no hunger. There was no urgency. Like
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I said earlier, there was no you know, no voluia
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: to to to go ahead and score or do something.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: I agree totally with Johnny's point of the Tegi our
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: leading goal scorer in our league on a fucking island.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Can this guy get any sort of lifeline or support?
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: It was ridiculous. I think we've tried to really push
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: our wing back play and that's the reason why we're
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: playing three at the back, that three five two, that
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: three five one one three four three, whatever you want
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: to call it. But you know, the inter players, it
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: was clear they were they they are. We spoke about
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: it last week with John Marco. Right, guys like they
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: were already exhausted to the max. But all the plays starts,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Bastoni plays, he starts, DeMarco comes off the bench, he
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: starts today. Uh, you know, they're they're they're exhausted. I
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: get it that we have much options besides these players.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Some will say yes, some will say, you know, we
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: gave two debuts and the two matches Diego Coppola and
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: uh Luca Nieri today. Although the match against Norma was terrible.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: If there would be one small bright spot, it was Coppola.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: I think he did play decent for being so young
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: in his first start and first debut with the national team,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: the senior team. Uh, he didn't give. He wasn't given
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: an easy task obviously, trying to mitigate you know, Holland
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: and you know, one of the better strikers of this
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: current time in world football. You know, his his defensive
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: mates didn't help him out, and you know, and a
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: whole we didn't help out in a aruma to to
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: to to you know, go on the other end, Yeah, okay,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: we're gonna can see goals, but we're not even scoring them.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: So that's a that's a major problem. So you know,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: I think whatever happens in the future, we'll have to
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: see what help we get into that later as well.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: But it can't. I'm just it just pisses me off
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: because it can't. It shouldn't be, and it can't be
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: that we have to we have to even have these
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: types of conversations, you know, regarding our regarding our national
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: national team. I don't think it almost seems like these
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: guys don't get it that we've already missed two World
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Cups and we got embarrassed in a Euro after being
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: the Euro tryingampions this past summer. Right, it almost seems like, yeah, Okay,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of games to play, there's a lot
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: of time to catch up. But like Nick said, there's
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: now seven games left, So how many more errors do
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: you expect to make from here until you know, next
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: until November? Sorry, right now, you can't make any You
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: have to win out and you have to end off
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: this fucking campaign, this world this qualifying campaign, playing the
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: team that you got embarrassed by three nothing in Norway,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: and now you have to play that at home, So
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: you're gonna embarrass your fans at home again and not
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: make another World Cup. For me, that's a big possibility.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I know, today's results kind of band aids and kind
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: of you know, tries to ease a bit of the
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: pain of Friday, But let's don't don't make any mistake
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: about it. Like there's still major problems. And the people,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: the fans that think, oh yeah, okay, we got rid
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: of you. Now we're gonna make the World Cup because
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: seventy three, seventy four year old Cloudy order an the
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: other he's gonna save the day and bring us through
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: the promised line. Love the guy, don't get me wrong,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: love them, But how many more band aid solutions are
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: we gonna put on this fucking goddamn national team that
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: this this nation has not been at the last two
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: World Cups. For a nation that has four of them?
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: How many stars are on this fucking badge of here
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: on this jersey? How many one, two, three, four? There's
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: four of them? Right? Sing whatever? We'll sing? What there's
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: four of them? Right? We haven't been in the last
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: two When was the last time?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: We're missing three?
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: We're just missing three? We haven't you know, It's just
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: it's again. This is a rant, that's an accumulation of things. Obviously,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: I get that something has to change. Obviously. The first
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: thing of that is uh, you know, fire in or
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: mutually putning ways with spelled to you you know, is uh,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: sometimes the grass is not always greener on the other side.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: I guess we'll have to figure that out for ourselves.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: And whoever does officially come to the guide this national team.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: But you know, the players have to take responsibility too, because,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: like I said, like in most, if not all sports,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: the coach, the coach pays the biggest price in terms
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: of when things don't go right. It's easy to get
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: rid of a coach. You can't fire the whole squad right,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: even though sometimes you want to, right, you don't want
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: some players to touch the pitch again. So it's easy
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: for for for for people, or for organizations or or
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: national teams or whatever the case may be. Get rid
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: of the coach because that's the easiest guy to get
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: rid of, and you can change that instantly. But don't
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: expect things to all be sunshine and rainbows once you
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: know that change happens at hope, let's hope, let's hope
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: for better future. But it's gonna be a work in progress.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: There's and there's not a lot of time. So that's
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: my biggest concern. And starting off the campaign with a
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: three nol shallaking, like we just saw and we spoke
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: about a bit, it's not the ideal way to start.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: We're playing catchup from the get go. We were already
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: playing catchup because you know, Norway started off very strong
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: with the two wins, so we were already behind the
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: ape all a bit and now we're you know, behind
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: the apall even more so. But yeah, the players have
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: to have to take responsibility for this because I get
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: the injuries, I get the tiredness, I get the fatigue,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I get you know, a long season, but some players
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: on Friday, I don't know, man like just weren't it
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: at all. Like I like Udoj, he was terrible. I
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: like Rovella, he was not it for me. Zappa Costa
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: hasn't touched the field for a national team since twenty eighteen.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: We bring them back from the dead. I don't know
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: why he's good, don't get me wrong, but I don't
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: know if he's gonna fit this this national team. It's
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: just from top to bottom, just terrible. And yeah, things
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: have to change, and I don't know if we'll ever
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: see it or sorry, I don't know if we'll see
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: it anytime soon. I think we will see it eventually,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: but some explanations have to be had and we need
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: some more clarity as fans and just love, you know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: people that love the national team. And I hope for
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: for things to change, you know, soon, and let's let's
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: see where it goes from here.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Adri this feels like one of your rants a CJLO
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: when you're talking about Italy not making the twenty eighteen
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: World Cup.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Twenty eighteen, that was a dark time. That's what ticked
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: it all off for us, right like, in terms of
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: this whole cycle of you know, we don't like to
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: see his name on this pod. But you know, uh,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Ace Ventura will call them. I don't know where we're
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: gonna call. I don't know. Right, we didn't like that time, right,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: and it seems so, but surely we kind of get
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: reminded by by what these results and these performances in
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: this missing World Cup that kind of brings us back
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: to that that that dark time. So and that's the
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: last thing we want as fans, right, So let's see.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: I do think there is positive stepping stones to to
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: to go forward with, but it needs to be a
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: collective effort. These guys got to wake up and realize, listen,
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: you're playing for the Italian national team. Uh, you know
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: the urgency and the mentality to to fight and uh
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: and to work hard and to come together as as
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: a unit. Because I hate to hear all this time. Okay,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: there's not enough time. They don't they don't play with
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: each other. Okay, I get it, but fuck these guys
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: they know each other, don't get don't like they know
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: where to go, they know how to how to play football.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Friday didn't look like they knew how to play culture.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, guys, like they didn't know, like if they
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: were coming or going, if they were passing where they
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: were passing to it was a colossal disaster, embarrassment and
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: they should feel embarrassed. And you know what, they should
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: even feel embarrassed today how they fucking performed because even today, yeah,
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: you got the two nil result and you get your
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: first three points of this qualifying campaign, but it's still
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: for me, it wasn't good enough. You're what Anyways, we'll
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: get into it later. I don't want to continue on,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: but I'll pause and then refrain and you know, speak later.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: But I'm just hopeful for better things in the future.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Let's let's uh, let's hope that happens.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: But you know, you guys want to hear a crazy stat.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: The last time Italy and sorry, last time Italy played
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: in a World Cup game, Idanna and Johnny didn't even
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: know each other. That's how long it's been, really, really
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: at twenty fourteen, you guys would have met when we
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: started playing ball hockey together in twenty sixteen, so that
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: was a long time ago. We've never watched World Cup
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: game the three of us together, and now they risk
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: maybe we're we're kind of pressing the panic button a
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: bit too early. Maybe it's because of you know, we've
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: been scarred from the past two editions. But they basically
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: need to win the remaining games and either hope that
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Norway drops points at some point or Italy outscores their
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: opponents and finishes with at this point at least a
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: plus eleven plus twelve plus thirteen differential. Because right now
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Norway after four games they're plus eleven it least at
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: minus one minus one. You know, already losing to Norway
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: is big enough, but losing three nothing is even worse.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: H So you know, today two nothing, it feels like
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: they need to score more, so they need to play.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: They play Estonian Israel basically their next four matches, and
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: then they finish off with Moldova and Norway. So it's
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: kind of like mirrored this schedule. But guys, you know,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: this is a World Cup in our our backyard. Teams
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: that have already qualified are Jordan, who's Becky, Stan New
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Zealand Iran Nice. If Italy's not at this forty eighteen
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: World Cup at this point, just at that point, just
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: fold the program. Maybe I'm talking and getting into ahead
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of myself, but come on, Eldov, he's going to be
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: in the World Cup.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: And they they expanded it forty eight teams. Yep, they
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: expanded it, guys, forty eight teams. Like for the listeners
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: at home, listen to that again. They've expanded it to
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: forty eight teams this year. I don't know if that
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: was because they wanted to leave back in the tournament
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: or they're hoping that we can get it together and
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: get into the tournament because they've missed the last I
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: don't know what the fucking idea was behind it, you know,
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: in Fantino and whoever's right, I don't.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I feel like extra teams qualified.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like it's this is for me, Like they expanded
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: to forty eight. You're gonna say the fourth time, right,
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: it's if they can't make this guys, it was nice
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: knowing you. It was nice knowing you. It was nice
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: to spend this time with you. But we'll have to
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: call it a rap. I don't know this. That would
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: be devastating for me Already. The first time, me and
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Nick were going bananas. I know, Johnny Johnny too, right.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: The second time around, we we we really we couldn't
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: believe it. Now this is becoming like a trend, like
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: are they going to do it? Are they gonna go
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: three for three?
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: This is the second The second time around is more
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: like first reaction shook.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, big time. Now it's now it's like it's
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: just pure anger.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anger, Johnny, you know Spiletti better than anyone here,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: having you know, having for both of these teams, both
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: row monopoly. Did you see these you know the firing coming.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Are you surprised by that? Because we're not surprised, but
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: not surprised. I'm surprised that was weird.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised if this was definitely gonna happen, especially
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: with the results. I think it's on the national team,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: nobody has immunity, and I believe that.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: That's how it should be. Uh, you know, like you're
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: never gonna.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: You should never feel like as if like, oh, I've
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: never lose my job, Like no, you could lose your
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: job if you don't mean up to expectations. But the
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: manager is always going to be the scapegoat because it
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: is an.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Institutional thing too.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Uh when over here complaining about coaches or complaining about players,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: play about this and that. But also the higher ups
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: need to be held accountable too, And it's gonna be
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be a rotation.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Of of of of managers until mentality changes overall.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: And let's be real with ourselves, even if they changed,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: like the people upstairs and stuff, like, managers come and
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: go over time, like you always need a rotation of
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: managers here and there, like you know, like you don't
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: want to keep the same manager for like five plus years.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: But Spiletti leaving was eventually gonna happen, spletting himself. Yes
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: he had a success Atnopoly finally, but it was also
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: like just everything seemed.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: To work that season. I was excited.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: I hoped that you know, he had like with the
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: experience when his Scudetto learned a thing or two about
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: what it takes to make a team winners for the
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: national team and apply that mentality. But I'm really shocked
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: and surprised that he had this idea that all like
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: everyone's gonna fit into my information and didn't have this,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: didn't have this, like I guess clairvoyance. You know that
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: it's not working, change it up, but you keep on
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: doing it, You keep on doing it, You keep on
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: doing it. Yeah, that's definition of insanity. Doing the same
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: thing over and over and expecting different results. It's like,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: because there was a span of five games where our
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: results were win win, draw, win, win, but it just
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: seemed like important matches are bigger games. We lost those ones.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: And it's just I'm tired of seeing that boss.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I'm tired. And it's like.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Players are like and it just seems like his substitutes
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: always save his ass every once in a while, you know,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: like it doesn't seem like like he gets the starters wrong,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: and it seems like it's the subs that save his
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: job more often than not. So especially in them, was
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: that the three to three game against Germany, you know,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: like it took it like down three zero and it
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: took like some great changes and stuff and players to realize,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: holy fuck, we're actually better than this to get a
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: better result. So all in all, not surprised by by
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: him being let go. Eventually, I knew this was coming.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: The writing was on the wall. I I don't I
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: don't think I think he thinks a bit of a break.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna get a team contract anytime soon,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: unless you know, fuck it whatever, and every team just
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: throws them a bone or something, which I feel like
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: that might happen.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Especially away, like you rotate their managers.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: I just I know it's been rumored that I might
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: beat Hannette to be the next manager for the town
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: national team. And I know that we've had discussions before
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: that he's a type manager that is able to rally
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: your room together and you know get them like you know,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: believe that believable or like buying into a system. But
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: you know what, I think should be the next manager
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: for this team or have some part of being an
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: assistant manager.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: Daniella did as see, I think Danielle Did's see if
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: you look at our past two let's say successes on
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: a national team, that Asie was a player on the
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: World Cup team, and that Asti was a technical manager
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: or whatever you may want to put the title on
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: him for the Euro.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Team, and you saw his contributions off the pitch, you know,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: in terms of you know, like supporting the players, you know,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: being a mentor for them, having these discussions. And we've
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: always seen that Ossi he has you know the most
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: the biggest passion out of a lot of players and stuff.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: You know, he's always he's always involved, he's always you know,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: he's proud you know, he's proud to be Italian, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: if you need somebody to unite a room or united group,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: bring him in. I'm not say he has to be
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: the manager, like he has to be the main manager,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: because I think it's a very tall, tall glass of
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: water to drink for him at this point, especially that
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: you know it's not that much you know, top team
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: managing experience. But bring him on his assistant coach or
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: have him some kind of like mentor managerial role, because
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: this guy, I think is crucial. I think he needs
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: to be involved in some way.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know for me, that's for me. It's
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: tough even for Spoletti, Like do you shocks or whatnot?
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Like this kind of reminds me of you know, Mancini,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: you know, after the Euro and then not get into
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: the World Cup and keeping them on for a bit
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: too long. It kind of reminds me of that a bit.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Maybe we should have what goal of if this was
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: kind of you know the rumors and you know the
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: rumblings and you know the writing of on the wall
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: of you know, is this really the direction we got
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: to go at? Like why didn't we make this decision earlier? Again?
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: It's easy to say playing you know, Monday morning quarterback,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: but it's if you're not going to learn from your mistake,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: and like Johnny said, if you're trying the same thing
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: over again expecting different results, you know, definition of insanity,
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: which I agree with.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: You.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: You're not going to go forward like that. So maybe
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Spoty should have not been the manager of the national
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: team a handful of months ago, you know, or even
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: last year for that matter, like post post a year
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: old disappointment, because you know, even at that it was
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: lucky that they even made it out of the group stage, right,
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Like it took a zach Kani, you know, delp Piero
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: asked titra giro type of style goal for us to
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: even get out of there and and and move on.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: So if that didn't happen, we would probably have been
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: singing a whole other tune back then, right, So yeah,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: on the on the on the flip side of it,
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: on the human side of it, because there's always a
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: human side of of these things. You know, I gotta
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: as much as people want to bash on him, you
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: got to tip off your hat on how Spoetti handled
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: the situation. I think it was very it was very respectful,
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: it was very it was done properly. I guess you
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: can say it was done professionally. I don't think he
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: he made at least I didn't really see from the
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: interviews and the the stuff that I saw, he didn't
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: really make too many excuses. I know he said that
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: the way he found the national team is the way
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: he left it. So there's that. I don't know if
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: that's a shot at you know, Gravina or upper management
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: or whatnot, but you know, he did say the system
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: has to change. And you know, if if he came
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: into this situation the way it was and he's left
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: it the way it was, that says something. So but overall,
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: I think it was a professional thing. How they you know,
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: kind of part of ways it wasn't too much bad.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: But he owned up that he you know, he didn't
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: he didn't do enough as as the as the coach
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: of the national team, and you know, even him getting
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: let go or can or however you want to label
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: it as before the Moldova game. That's another thing in
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: which I've never seen. This is only in Italy. It
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: seems to be that this happens. But getting that news
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: and then still being on the touch line coaching and
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: you know, being being there and present for this game today.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that you have to kind of
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: tip your head off a bit to that, just because
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know too many guys that are people that
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: would have that would have been up for that or
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: probably would have just abandoned, say listen, you know you're
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: firing me, I'm no longer part of this. I'm gonna
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna. I'm not going to be there for
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: for Monday's game. So for that, I think you have
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: to credit him for. But the the riginist, the stubbornness,
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: the you know, flashes of brilliance, but no cohesiveness and consistency,
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: I think is what ended up, you know, killing him
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: at the end in terms of uh, you know this
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: firing and all that. But yeah, that's that's just what
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: I would add to to what you know, to Jenny's
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: points of of of are you shocked shocked no? Uh?
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Or surprise no, I guess, but that it happens so
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: fast because again, this this spell at the era was
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: if you really look at it, it was it was
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: pretty short. So you know, it's it's a shame that
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: we have to start over again. But if that's what
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: it takes to bring this national team to bigger and
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: better things, you know we have no choice but to
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: So with Rahd Yerry, I think you know he's he's
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: If it's him, you'll come in. He's respected coach. Obviously,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: band aid solution, another band aid solution to carry out,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: to carry through World Cup qualifying and maybe longer. We'll see.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: But I'm proposing three ideas, non traditional ideas. I don't
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: know what you guys think. I want to I'll list
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: them out for you know, future coach. Uh First, have
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: a coach who also coaches the city at club. I
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: know this is there's nothing like illegal against this, but
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: it's not common at all. I know there was cal
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Zona last year with Napoli who came on as an
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: interim while he was still coaching the Slovakian national team.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I know this is not a common thing. I don't
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: know many coaches to do this, but why not have
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: a coach who's also coaching the city team. I know
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: there will be biased, but look Spletti wasn't even coaching
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Napoli and he still had naptly biased. But if you
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: have a coach from the city team. A it shows
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: that you actually got a coach that club wants, because
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: right now, what they've been doing, they've been hiring guys
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: who city teams don't even want. You know, maybe with
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: the exception of Conte who left, you have a job
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: and for the national team. But look splenty uh if
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, Johnny he he left. Was
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: it an inspiring contract when he left Napoli to join
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the national team?
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, because the dog was barking before he had
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: one year left on his contract, and then.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: I think the national team came calling.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah it was, but like.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Fuck man, I don't remember the saga completely two years ago.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it also came out.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Of the blue too, and it was more like well ship,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: like Okay, what are we gonna do now?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: And I think it was a mix of.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Both, but it was more of a more of a
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: surprise rather than like like like we saw this coming
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: and like like it was like it.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Was like pre planned or whatever.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Pre planned. Yeah.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: But also when he left, he took a lot of
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: his staff with him. That's why, or a lot of
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: these Napoli selections because it was it was his roster
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: that he used to win the Scudetto and essentially, you know,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: like help them, like they knew the players. So obviously
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: there's a bit of favoritism to it. And I'm sorry,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I know you guys are you know, saying he's selected
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: his Napoli players.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: But Aspadote, he's been on fire for the national team.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: You know since his call up in twenty twenty one,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: He's got nine goals for the national team. He's got
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: nine goals for national team.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: It was it was no, he's scored more goals in
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: a certain span of time from their debut than any
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: other player. I retweeted it. Hold on, let me get
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: the actual tweet. You get the actually According to.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: According to the Up the Football, Up the Football, since
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: his debut with the senior national team June four, twenty
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: twenty one, Jacomo Raspadoti is the player who scored the
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: most goals, which is nine for Italy.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's a lot more than any other player, but
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: more like like he is the one, like he's putting
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: the ball in the back of the net. I know
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: a lot of people like to give him shit, but
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: he's spending the ball in the back.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Of the net.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: And and I'm gonna defend the Lorenzo because he's being
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: under utilized, like he's not he's not being used properly.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: But so yeah, there is the favoritism being involved.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: And you know what favoritism is gonna happen.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Conte called called up the BBC with Befall in the back,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: right Like mind you that's obviously like you know the
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: best players to call up. But you know, like it's
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: it's like that, it's it's gonna be normal. It's gonna
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: be normal. Coaches are gonna use players that they know best.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: But anyways, anyways, anyways, I.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Just want to I just want to continue. But then
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: we could discuss. I just want to list up the
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: three options. Yeah, then you could discuss. So you gotta
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: go coach city team. Uh, you develop a coach. So
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: right now, one name I'm gonna I'm gonna throw and
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know his name, Carmene Nunziata.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: He's from sen Janata visu Viano in Monopoly.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: He's the he's the U twenty three or twenty one coach.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna be coaching them at the upcoming tournament
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: tournament they play on Wednesday. He was the coach when
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: they went to the final in the U twenty tournament
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: two years ago. So a lot of that same core
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: is on the team, including Casa Day Baldanzi. I think
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Jonto as well. So he coached you seventeen U nineteen,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: you eighteen U twenty twenty one. So he's been developed.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: He's fifty seven years old. You know, he had a
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: career bouncing around teams in the city, a city b coach,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: some minor teams before joining the FIJC. So he's been
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: part of the FIGC since twenty twelve, so he knows
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the system. So that's another option that you could throw in.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Danielle Drossi, what if he does that? What if he
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: does the same path as new Ziada. You know the
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: past coach of the U twenty one team, Paulo Nicolato,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: he did the same thing U eighteen, nineteen twenty twenty one,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: and then he left and now he's head coach of Lafia.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: So these guys, these are guys that are just national
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: team coaches. They just go up through the national ranks
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: at these different levels. And then option three, which is
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: a bit more tradisial. Get a non Italian coach, you know,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: if you want to stay close to home, get a
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Spanish coach. Maybe maybe Pep Guardia Guardiola will leave, will
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: leave Man City for the national team job. Who knows,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: But I know this is the most controversial, but it
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: could bring in fresh ideas if maybe a Spanish coach
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: who's maybe played in the city, Luis Enrique, Pep Guardiola,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: who you know know the city. No, no Italian. Look,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Brazil just hired Ancelotti. I'm not saying we go to
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: get a Brazilian coach, there's not a lot of good ones.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I'm saying go to get a Spanish coach because there's
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of good ones. But that's that's the most controversial.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Uh And honestly I would say it the town actually
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: team should actually go for that, but I know you
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: guys might disagree.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Pep, Pep would be fine in my
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: eyes because he's played in Italy. You know, his upbringing
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: is like I'm not talking about upgrading like his life,
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: but I mean like his upbringing in terms of like
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: the soccer world has been Italy, right, So so my
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: I think Pep would will not be a bad idea,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: but historically I don't in my life and even looking
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: back from my personal memory and also like looking at
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: past tournaments of like highlights and shit, I don't think
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Italy has ever had a non Italian manager. I'm saying thing,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: I say thing, yeah, I think I.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Think I don't remember.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there maybe it might have been maybe somewhere in
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: the early years, like in the thirties or forties, where
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: they might have had a manager that that wasn't Italian,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: but I doubt that. I think throughout its entire it,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: throughout the entire history of the Azuiti, it's always been
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: an Italian manager, So I don't see them going down
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: that route. I like, however, the route that you decided
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: of bringing somebody who's been on the national team roster
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: for the longest time, and it was developed through the
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: youth system because one of the things that we have
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: have been arguing is that the kids needs to play
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: some more.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: And I think it was it was it last year.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Do you seventeens want the Euros or do you twenty
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: ones or whatever?
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: The fuck?
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: Are you? Nineteens?
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Unite teens want yes, And I think this is the
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: same group. This might have been.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: I know it was it was come out of the group. Well,
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: come out so young, so he probably played up.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if it Yeah, you're right, wasn't
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: the coach rem.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Nonetheless, somebody who's like who knows the next generation might
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: actually be the call to make because you know, maybe
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: they'll know like, Okay, this player is stagnant, this player
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: doesn't work out with this system.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Let's bring up one of the kids who does spit
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: into the system.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: And that's been one of our issues too, like we say,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: like we see guys like we were like, oh man,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: you know Pedro, the La Minnamal, you know, like uh,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, or like all these younger players like
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: sixteen seventeen year olds, you know, but like being called
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: phenoms because they're having these amazing tournaments at these at
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: the age of six in seventeens. Because the kids play.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: You got to play these kids. And this is obviously
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: something that we've been said that's the fundamental issue in
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Italy that they don't play kids. But I think we
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: can kind of mitigate that or or fix that to
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: fix that problem by using a manager that's kind of
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: been brought up through the use system and knows what
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: the new generation is going to be.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, Well, one thing I would say is that
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: we cannot continue on this path of band aid solution.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: That's number one. Like, we cannot continue like I don't
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: know how many boxes of band aids we've gone through.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Maybe band aid itself. I might have to sponsor the
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: italianational team. I don't know, but that's number one. We
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: cannot continue putting band aids because you're not fucking healing
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: the wound. The wound is still there, right. We've been
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: having this wound with this national team for so long.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Putting a band aid on it clearly hasn't worked, and
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: it won't work because it'll never heal because how you
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: know deep the wound is. That's number one, the foreign
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: coach thing. I'm sorry, Nick, I know you want to
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: you whatever you like, the idea, you don't. For me,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: it's a no. For me, it's a no. Maybe I'm
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: gonna sound traditional, I'm gonna sound old school. I don't know.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: But historically and again, maybe that is the thing that
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: will change history because we always lean back on history
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: to kind of give our point and give our fact
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: and give our you know, our our idea. But I
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: don't think hiring a non Italian coach will well will
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: solve this issue, because I do think we have quality
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: in our own backyard. And if we want to continue
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: to to push this idea that the kids have to play,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: we need more Italians on city our rosters. We need
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: the development to continue. I feel like you kind of
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: just counter counter uh, you know, counteract that by by
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: bringing in a foreigner and and and expecting that growth
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: to happen. So I'm going to say no one. Plus,
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: I don't like they're used to their way of thinking
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: of football, and I honestly Pep to to the Talian
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: national team. That sounds amazing, but I don't think we
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: have the the players to play the way Pep wants
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: to play or has played in his in his career.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: And on the flip side, and again it might I
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: don't want to sound like being like a shot to him,
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: but it's easy or easier when a you have the
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: in one case, the best player in the world in
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Leo Messi at Barcelona to win, or have unlimited pockets
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: at man City where you can buy your way out
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: of out of a lot of trouble. That doesn't work
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: on the national level and the national team level. It's
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: it's clear what you have and is what you have
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: have You can't start saying, Okay, I'm gonna buy this
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: guy and I'm gonna go buy that guy for X
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: amount of dollars or euros. It doesn't work that way.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: So the forem coach idea. I don't agree with it
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: right now. Maybe in the future, maybe that could be
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: something that does change and kind of a new wave
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: of in football. We'll see. And you know, the rumors
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: of Ranieri that that's kind of he's given is okay,
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Grevin's reaching out to him. That's their first choice. You know,
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: he's gonna be able to do both roles what he
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: has promise a Roma to have that you know, advisory
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: role Aroma and to coach you Talian national team to
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: bring them to the World Cup and potentially further. But
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: for fox sakes, can this guy get a damn break.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: He's seventy three, god damn years old. He'll be seventy
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: four in October October twentieth, if I'm not mistaken, I
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: think it's a day after the next birthday, right, seventy
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: four years old? Right going on? He came out of
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: retirement to save what was to save at his boove
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: a Roma, which I respect, you know, commendable. You got
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: to give it to him. He's leaving that post to
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: have this advisory role. Aroma gave up his spot to
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: now the appointed Gaspardini, and this guy hasn't had a
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: break and he can't catch a break because now the
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: national team is desperate. They're and they're going to call
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: on him to kind of unify the room, which I
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: think he would again, all the things that they're saying
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: that he will do, I think he has the tools
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: to do so. I just don't agree with bringing him
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: in for this small amount of time for them to
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: hopefully make it to the World Cup, and maybe he
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: does guide them into the World Cup and go through
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: that tournament, just for us to restart once again in
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: aut a year's time, maybe two years time, and we'll
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: go back having this damn conversation again. I know, all
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: things don't last forever. Like Johnny said, I agree, and
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: that's normal. It's part of life, it's part of the
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: cycle of how things work. But I don't. I don't
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: agree with having to just put another band aid, put
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: another band aid, put another band aid and then you know,
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: hopefully having good results for a tournament. And then we
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: started to start from ground zero again. The one idea
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: that you proposing it that I would say that, you know,
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: if there's anything that makes it the most sense will
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: be that second one in terms of you know, the
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: if I mean, I don't know if it has to
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: be Nunziata, if it has to be you know, Nicolato,
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: or if it has to be this guy or the
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: next guy, because I've heard even Nunziata there he's a
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: bit bit stubborn as well in his ways.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, but who Isn't.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: That's fair, right we I think just being Italian in general, yeah,
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: you have that, you have that, you know, that rigidness
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: and that stubbornness. I thought he wasn't from Calabria because
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: then now right, no right the test to do that
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: from Glabria again, no, no shot to our calaborrazy friends.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: But just as Italians in general, I know, very stubborn.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: But if there's one idea that like I like I said,
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: that kind of steers in the right direction and in
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: the direction that we as fans and we have we
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: as you know, viewers of the game, lovers of the game,
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: people that make content out of this game, and and
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: and so forth. I think that would probably be the
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: most logical. I guess you can say way to go
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: about things, somebody that, like you said, forget all the
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: club football and really only focus because there's two separate things, guys,
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: and it's clear we've seen it. It's two separate entities
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: club football, international football. It's two complete different things. And
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: it's not always a guarantee that your club football six
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: as a manager is going to translate over to your
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: international success as a manager for the national teams. So
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: maybe that is the alternative to go. If it not
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: like I said, if it if it being nunziataf it
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: not be Nuniata, if it be Nico Loto or not Nicolato,
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: if it be whoever else. You know, maybe they need,
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: you know, Baldini from Pescada to to to lead them
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: the way right because he seems to be, you know,
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: getting it upstairs on how things need to need to go. Again,
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: I do think we have some young coaches in Italy
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: like I think that. I think maybe I don't want
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: it to be like an age requirement thing, But is
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: it possible that we have to go for guys like
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: already over retirement age, like sixty five and up. Like
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: we're becoming I don't know what we're becoming here, but
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: it seems to be a bit crazy. Not to say
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: that those guys can't get the most out of players.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: But if you want to preach new ideas, fresh mentality, uh,
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: you know, modern football, But we're hiring somebody's no no,
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Man like my no, no, I love
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: him to death, but like he's not going to reinvent
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: the will. He's gonna go with what he knows and
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: that's his that's what's best, and that's what he thinks
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: is the best. It's not always the case, right, you
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: need to look outside that box, right, And if we
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: want to preach that and push that in in the
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: conversations that we have as uh, you know, as fans
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: and as supporters and whatnot, maybe we should go a
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: different route in terms of you know, uh age and whatnot.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: And and and because we have some good, you know,
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: young Italian coaches, you know, uh, Palladino's available. He's a
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: name that I've kind of liked. I don't know if
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: he's the best fit. I'm not going to say everybod
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: is gonna take this. Oh yeah, he thinks he's the
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: best phase going to reinvent the wheel at the national team. No,
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: but he's a young coach who's has had some interesting ideas.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: Who's who's done well. It's unfortunately how it ended with Fiorentina.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: But you know the guy that left Ayak FARIOI he's
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: another he's another interesting name. Right, he's gotten some experience
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: outside is you know, thirties and forties, whatever the case
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: may be. You know, did that be you know Italiana
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: people that we.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Need as a manager.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: Just one day, one day in time for the Yeah,
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: just so, just so all the pages can go you know, culture,
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Tory Brute, the outdoor goal. You know, any say, yeah,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: fan account or just account in general can have fun
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: with because that would be the ultimate, the ultimate, the
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: ultimate meme.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: It will be. It will be our version of Kim Kim,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Kim Kim.
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: King and Kim Yeah exactly. So you know, I don't know,
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: I'm not I don't want to point and go jump
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: on those bandwagons and say those of the guys that
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: need to to to read a national team. But uh
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: as much as it, I think it probably will end
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: up being er if you if you, if you believe
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: or listen or read the reports, and as the as
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: the hours go by, it seems closer and Closer's name
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: got into you know, pushing put into that equation. I
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: even saw, you know, gattus On Dross's name kind of
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: float under the radar as a maybe just another backup, backup,
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: backup idea. We need somebody to wake up the fucking
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: room and to unite this room. If we can mix
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: Gatuzo's fire with you know, uh there as his heart
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: and Rai's unification of the room, and players will play
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: under a guy like him, that would be like the
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: perfect coach. Unfortunately sounds like Antonio Conte. Unfortunately it does
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: actually sound like Antonio Conte. So if there's one guy
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: that can hopefully can do double Doo, it would be him.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know how realistic that is, but I like
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: the points that you brought up in terms of the ideas,
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: and like I said, circling back that youth promoting, like
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: promoting within, like pretend it's a business, right or a
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: company you promote Sometimes it's easier and it's and it's
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: more organic to promote within instead of going out and
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: grabbing here and grabbing there and expecting and hoping that
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: it works out. When you've worked I don't know, ten, fifteen,
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: twenty years at a company and you've incrementally progressed or
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: you know, they the company has decided to go within
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: and promote and give the reins to people that they
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: know and they can trust. Sometimes that's the best recipe
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: for success. So we'll see what time if that happens.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: But I think we'll probably wake up in the next
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: handful of days, and probably as the manager. But again
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: for me, I love him, love the guy, and love
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: what he's about and love his his career. But I
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: said it, you know back, you know, a half full
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: of days ago and weeks ago. Just can we get
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: let this guy retire already his wife, His wife is
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: already in the knows that she fucking can't stand this
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: whole thing. I saw someone I don't remember who posted
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: it or what outwit posted it, but she is like, no,
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: I forget where I saw when what paper was on,
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: if it was gotzet the sky or if it was
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: whatever or whatever, I don't remember, but like, why this
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: guy fucking get some rest. But anyway, so we'll see
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: what happens in the next handful days.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Jenny. To answer your question from earlier, the last foreign coach,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: the only foreign coach ever to coach the national team
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Helenio Arera. He was actually part of the technical commission,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Helenio Herrera and.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: For Ruto Fulkan.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Edgy between November first, nineteen sixty six and March twenty seventh,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven. So not a long time. Four games
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: that went three of them.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: But were there sorry Spanish, they were Spanish or they were.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: No, it was Argentine and Valkategi was Italian and he's
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: at Herrera was actually the last coach to also coach
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: a club in the city at the same time as
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: the national team. Wow, so you're going to.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Get back to nineteen sixty six, is what you're saying.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Right, So basically points went in three of mine. They
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: basically did that in nineteen sixty six at the same time,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: and they said, you know what, we we've had enough.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: We're going into twenty twenty six here, so it's an
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: anniversary of this.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe we have to make the half years exactly. Yeah,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: So that's interesting. He was coaching in there at the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: same time as the national team, but for not long
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: and then falc Edgi took over and he was actually
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: the coach when they won the Euros in nineteen sixty eight.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: I was bout to say, I mean, like it led
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: to them the euro So if we're gonna follow that.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Trend, I mean, I don't mind it.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: It brings a fifth star. I mean, I guess, yeah,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: shut up and take it.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: There's a stupid, stupid, stupid meme that has been true
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: that the last three times a pope was selected and
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: the World Cup happened in the pope's nation, Italy. Wando's
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: tournaments so random.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: It's it's so like so like, that's so it sounds
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: interesting to me.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: I've just I either their nations or their continents, but
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: either way.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: No I saw that it was in their nations.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: Yet.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously Pope Leo with the World Cup coming up
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: in the States, and then Pape Benedict was elected April five,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: and then Italy won the World Cup in Germany O six.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: But then I think before that you have to go
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: back to the I think that the nineteen thirty four
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: thirty eight World Cup one of those there was something hope.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: So I'm just saying, you never a chance one of these.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: It's one of these.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: The guys, it's funny like, if you're a betting man
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: right now, you're gonna bet the better oughts to win
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: the World Cup. Right now, You're gonna bet on Canada
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: over Italy. You know, I'm not even kidding. You know,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: who knows if Italy will even be in the World Cup. Meanwhile,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Canada is hosting right.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: Well, that would be an easy bet just if that happens.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: But you know, might just bet, we might just bet.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: We should just bet on Canada just for the sake
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: of the miracle happening, you know, under Jesse Marsh. We'll see,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: we'll see, guys. It's crazy. World Cup's like a year
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: away and yeah, uh, you know a lot of international soccer.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Italy's done until September. But we got we got Canada,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Canada and the Gold Cup, we got the Club World Cup,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: we got the U twenty one years Starting on Wednesday,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: he plays Romania. I think they're in a group with
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Spain in France, if I'm not mistaken. It's a tough
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: it's a tough tournament. I forget and I forget where
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: it is an acting might be in. Is it in Romania?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: I think so? Uh possibly Slakia?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Sorry sorry, but they are in a group of Slovakian
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Spain so with the host so well we'll see. I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: feel like I always enjoy watching this, this this tournament.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: I know they what they made the final in twenty
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: thirteen with the CIA and mobile lost to Spain. And
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think they've made the final since they always lose.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: It seems like they always lose the Spain in this tournament.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: Uh. But I I mean, I think the success or
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: the growth in in the in the youth ranks, I
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: think is is what hopefully continues to help the national
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: team on the senior level. But you know, like it
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: took it took her what's his name, It took Manini,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: Like remember when you too called up and everybody was like,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: who the hell is this guy? He's so young, But
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: he took a chance and he called him up and
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: he had you know, he had a good little, good
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: little stint with the senior team. Now he's he's done
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: in the number ten, you know, in the U twenty
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: one so and plays an important fact there. So I
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: don't know. I think it needs to be more than
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: one every every blue moon, like Copola right now, right,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: Like I can't believe he got sold also to to Brighton,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: Like Brighton picked Hm up for like ten eleven million,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: which is a shame on any of the SETI at clubs.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: But that's a whole other story and runs for another night.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: But I think you got to continue to to go
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: to pasta baton, right, forget calling up the uh you know,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: the or trying to call up the charities of the world, right,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: and kind of go with this these uh, these younger
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: players and hopefully better results will. But I don't know.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: It's like if anybody's like player wise, is anybody is
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: like spot like safe? I guess besides like like done
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: a rooma I guess, like I don't like because for me,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: Grilla is that like are those the players that are foundation?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 7: I guess so yeah, I even i'd even say day yeah, yeah,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: I can't really, I.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: TONI right, I guess yeah, I.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Know this is crazy, but it almost feels that as
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: if like Dio Lorenzo is like a sleep in the
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: team as well, just because there's not a lot of
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: right backs good, right, backs that it really has right now.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Obviously DeMarco, I think is another one. So I think
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: there's a couple of guys who, you know, there're spots
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: there unless they really, you know, screw it up. But
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: there's also a lot of spots to be won. And
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I think and I think it's it's interesting because now
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: it's it's for you year since they won the Euros
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: and there's only a handful of players left from that team,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: and it's all the young guys.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: Bastoni.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: Look at Telly Brella, Barrellama Marett as a backup, don't
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: I forget if you Yeah, he was called up.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: Werenzo was there, but de Lorenzo he's not young.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: But he's not young.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well he was on the bench for that. Yeah,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: I mean he didn't play, but or barely, but he was.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Isn't gonna make the national team anytime soon? That that
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: guy won the Euros. Remember in the Euros he played
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: played at some point, everyone played except for gret.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: I think my tail Pisina was like our leading scorer
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: two goals, right, one of our leading scorers in that
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: in that tournament.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: So to have the the picture up here on the wall,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: so every so often I look at it like, Okay,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: who's on that team? That was all that I forgot about.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: That KLOI I think was on that fucking team.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Emers, Yeah, was the starter more often
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: than not. Yeah, the final.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: Spina got injured and ever since being got injured, that
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: the entire lobside just became neutralized, like it wouldn't work
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: it anymore, like that Spina Sola and singing link up
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: was actually deadly and then it.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: Just like yeah, now it's gone. It's gone. But yeah,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: there's there's there's a handful of players that I think,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: but I agree with you said, Nick, I think there
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: are a lot of still positions to be filled, and
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: ultimately I think it depends on what formation we're gonna
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: end up playing, Like is the three back because I
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: think that granted, I think the three back can work,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: but it needs the correct Like we didn't see Cala
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: in this co op, which we didn't see in this
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: call up. Uh you know he did, he didn't he
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: didn't participate, right because of injury. That back line of Bastoni, CALAFORI,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: Borno for me, it sounds like it looks and sounds good.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: Is it the future, do we have the fullbacks, the
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: wing backs to to to play it. I think in
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: Italy we try to push that. It seems like a
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: lot of teams are trying to play that. And but
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: we need we need that coohesidness. We need. I think
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: the biggest thing is we need support for our We
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: we haven't been able to find a number nine for
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: a gun knows how long, and we kind of like
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: half have one right now because I like it as Tegi,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: but you know, we have have one right now for
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: the national team, and we don't even support him. We
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: don't even give him an outwit. We don't even like
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: he's on an island. And no kidding, he didn't score
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: because he who does he have around him that kind
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: of helps him, you know, do his job? Not many people,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: nobody really, So I think we're missing guys again. I'm
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: not gonna say like Kisa in terms of that we
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: need kids at back of the naturally, I'm not saying that,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: but we need guys they're not scared to take on
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  Speaker 4: a man one on one, bring up the attack and
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  Speaker 4: find that pass. And for fuck's sakes, Lorenzo Luca, you're
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  Speaker 4: six seven, can you get on a ball with your
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  Speaker 4: head and put it in the back of the neck.
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  Speaker 4: You're taller than everybody on the pitch, and yet him
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  Speaker 4: he can shake hands with Skamaka, they somehow cannot put
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  Speaker 4: the ball on the back and there for the nancial team.
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  Speaker 4: So again we're going to reiterate before we wrap this up,
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  Speaker 4: a combination of things that need to change and need
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  Speaker 4: to work with this national team. We're hopeful that things
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  Speaker 4: do and we'll see if that is with this band,
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  Speaker 4: a hid solution of potential Annieri or Pioli or whoever
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  Speaker 4: does come in. And at the end of day, guys,
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  Speaker 4: we just need to make the fucking Wok Cup. There.
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  Speaker 4: We can discuss all this other stuff afterwards, but we
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  Speaker 4: need to get to the World Cup in twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 4: That's a must. And I hope that now this small
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  Speaker 4: earthquake kind of up these players and and gets them
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  Speaker 4: mentally ready and the urgency up to to win out
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  Speaker 4: this this qualifying campaign. And uh, you don't get to
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  Speaker 4: get to woke Up in twenty twenty six, anything anything.
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  Speaker 3: To Jenny, honestly, just don't let whatever happened again.
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  Speaker 4: Just I think.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just I've I've said all my what I have
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  Speaker 3: to say, and I've said all my thoughts and stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and I just don't want this to continue.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't. It's very uncharacteristic of this of this nation.
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  Speaker 1: To be like this and a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot of us, you know, like I said, first second
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  Speaker 3: generation people were still very close, closely attached to the
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  Speaker 3: motherland and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, we know.
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  Speaker 3: What what the Zudi are capable of doing. We want
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  Speaker 3: to see them get back there, and we know that
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  Speaker 3: they have the players to do that. So I think
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  Speaker 3: I think it's we I think we addressed enough of
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: the issues and hopefully something changes, at least one of
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: them does. So first things first, let's see as the
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  Speaker 3: next manager.
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  Speaker 2: That's the most important.
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  Speaker 4: Thing that we can that we can talk exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Like, Let's just see who they choose as their main
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: manager first and what staff he brings in to to it.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed, maybe the f F I g C should hire
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: US consultants. Consultants get paid one hundred thousand on the books,
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  Speaker 1: another million out of the table, you know what.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: There you go, and some extra strole in the in
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: the in the back pocket.
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